July 24, 2025 • 23 mins
Talk about tales from the gym! You'll never guess the 'Gleek' who always had a front row seat at SoulCycle. Plus, Camilla shares a 'Barry' funny story about a certain 90s workout.
And, the ladies are CALLING OUT the biggest fitness faux-pas happening at a gym near you.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Call It what it is with Jessica Capshaw and Camille Luddington,
an iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Well, Hello, Hello, Hello, Hello.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Call it crew, and welcome to another episode of Short
and Sweet.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Is this sweet? Though I had to I had.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
To really rack my brain, really rack my brainforce when
I had.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
To have been a little more challenging for you, a
little more uphill for you.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
This is probably the most challenging one for me.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Do slots go uphill?
Speaker 2 (00:40):
We before a down roll. This episode is about working out.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Yeah, and so you know it, I like a mental
challenge that's so much a physical I mean, so.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
But what do you do about it? Because that's that's
that's the question.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
So I mean, I of course listen, okay, so let's
talk about working out.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Okay, workout routines.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
I've noticed everyone's noticed on social media they don't comment
about me. They comment about your arms, really bally, Yes, yes,
I'm waiting.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
For just you're giving me new information.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
You don't know this?
Speaker 3 (01:16):
No, oh my god. Yes, they talk about like how
great your arms look. And I'm scrolling for now, waiting
for I have a little arm comment. For Camille Luddington,
It's like a desert out there for me.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
I'm thirsty. So what is your arm?
Speaker 1 (01:36):
What we can end right now?
Speaker 2 (01:37):
I know for here we go?
Speaker 1 (01:40):
You know what, I've always been self conscious about my arms,
especially on camera or like when you're taking pictures. I'm
terrible at taking pictures, by the way, I mean a
photo shoot is really a weighted I look like I'm
having fun, but it's because I'm channeling some other human,
some other mindset, some other something, because I fucking hate it.
I hate it. I'll never forget. My first photo shoot
ever was from this like ABC half hour Thank God
(02:03):
It's Friday Show, where I was playing like some I
don't even know, but I was. They they try and
get you to like loosen up by giving you a circumstance.
And ABC gives us like this, you know circumstance and
it's an ice cream bar and you're supposed to all
be making like you know, Sundays, but look like you're
having fun doing it. Yeah, and uh, I was the
only one that definitely looked like they were not having
fun making an ice cream The feedback, Yeah, that was
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the feedback.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Yeah, like they like truly they were like trying to
like mix up a martini in the back to loosen
cap shop. They're like, she's got to loose it up.
I just look frozen.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
I'm like, that's not true, because I did the whole
photo shoot with you for call it what it is,
and you've gotten better.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
I've gotten better, No, you, we're just saying early early
me was like a deer in headlights just having photos taken.
It's just hard.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Well, everyone's commenting on how gorge you look. So let's hear.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
I'll take it, guys, I will take it.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
I will take it the routine before I get into mine,
because mine's gonaake forever.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Here's yeah's how many components are on that list of
working out for you?
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Well, actually I can tell your workout story, actually, Jessica
captur Ale right now, Oh tell it to me then, okay. Well,
back in the day here in Los Angeles, Barry's boot
Camp was the place to go, you guys. And if
you don't have a Barrie's boot Camp where you're at
basically it's.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Treadmills on one side, waits on the other. And you
used to get tortured at Burry's boot Camp.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Yes, and called out publication, get.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Called out like Luddington you look like a soth rolling
downhill on a treadmill.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Okay, so and they would touch.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Your treadmill like they would they would make it go faster.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
You're like running and you feel like you're dying and
they're like, no, you can go up.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Like it was.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
It was not a good situation there.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
And I but I was in my twenties, and that's
where everyone went, well, Barrie's has come back around. My girlfriend,
who I love and looks amazing, was like, why don't
you come with me to Bury's boot camp? And I
started crying because I had, you know, obviously memories of
the past and I was like, absolutely not, never again,
and she said no, it's changed, right, like it's different.
(04:05):
So I went with her to Berry's and when I
walked in I was like, Okay, this is kind of
cool because it wasn't like a bunch of girls in
their twenties.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
It felt like a lot of moms. And I was like, Okay,
everyone looks great. Here's what I don't like and and
this is Barrie's is not good for this. Every trainer
is a smoke show camp. Okay, but I don't I
don't need you to be the hottest Macatti while I'm like.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Kind of dying on a treadmill, like I need you
to look like you're a little disheveled.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait, But they're meant
to be there inspiring you.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
You know you don't want you don't you want to
look at the person who's leading to class and be
like that's what I'm moving towards.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
But I'm I'm talking about like every hair's perfect, like
perfect tan, like there's a there's an essence that's just
like they're they're like Greek gods because.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
They're also simultaneously shooting all their tiktoks and then their
like you know, reality shows on the side in Los Angeles.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
I'm not thinking about that.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
I'm thinking like, like I showed up and I was
wearing my retainer, and so when I went to when
my friend introduced me to this smoking smoke show of
a trainer, I was like him, came on, but the
little return yeah, because I can never get rid of
the list. And they're like, hi, you know, is it
your first time. I'm like, yes, my first time. I
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felt like I was like twelve years old. And then
I got thrown in there and everyone's running. Everyone can run.
I didn't know that everyone could run.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Well, I don't run unless chased. And we've discussed this before.
Let me ask you a question because I want to
just really round out the picture of you in a
Berry's bootcam class. Talk to me about you.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
What are you wearing? Okay, well, that's the other thing.
I didn't realize.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
The Berries merch was kind of flying off the shelves,
and when you walk in there you realize the participants bodies.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Yes, and I kind of showed up. I am to
be honest.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
I like a really baggy T shirt and I like
my my legans, my alo what are they called?
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Alololo llo? I love the alley. You can tell that
I wear them often because I don't know how to
say called them. But actually I think my legands. Why
do you can call them legings?
Speaker 1 (06:20):
No?
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Wait, wait, aren't they legings?
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Are they not?
Speaker 1 (06:27):
This is how much she works out, guys, I mean,
what are legends?
Speaker 2 (06:32):
What are you talking about? They're legends? No, they're not,
Yes they are, No, they're not.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
There's a G at the end of leggings.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
I know legends leggings. The g's silent. Everybody knows that.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Yeah, No, they're like, they're leggings.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
No they're not.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Anyway, I wear I also wear it.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
This is we're gonna need to ask people where they
where they are in this camp. So let's just make
sure we put out a social where you can for
whether or not it's leggings or leggings.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
The gust be right.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
I just kind of want to get this.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
One right, okay.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
I also think that you gave me and I never
gave back. You're okay, people are gonna laugh at this,
but they're my favorite thing to work out and the
beyond yoga mm hm pants. When I was pregnant, you
gave me two of yours. I still wear them because
it's soft on the old belly and you can pull
(07:40):
that shit up right up to the boobs. Yeah. Yeah,
I was in maternity wear and a T shirt and
everyone was looking hot in their berries stuff and the
berries merch, and I definitely listen.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
I enjoyed the class. I really did.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
I felt kind of cool when it came out. I
was like, what a protein shake? Sure, Like you know,
I'm like cool. I haven't really been back.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
It was a one undone for you. I went twice.
I went the next day and then okay that was it.
I went, Yes, it was two days in a row.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
No class back for you. You weren't buying more than that.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
No, there wasn't a class back. And I, to be honest,
I'm worried about an injury.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Right, Yeah, you might pull a hammy or something when
someone goes to accelerate your treadmill. First of all, to
also further set the mood for anything, it's.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Like a class.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
It's a club. There's really loud music, there's a definite like,
there's a there's a sense memory to the smell of it. Right,
it's not like rubber and sweat. And then there's mirrors everywhere. Yeah,
you can't escape yourself, not escape yourself, and so you're
just confronted with yourself, which is you know, probably good
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for some and not good for others.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
But I.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Strongly disliked Berrys boot camp running on a treadmill. I
just don't like running on I.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Was the only one walking. But to be to feel cool,
I made it like an was yeah, like the Everest line. Yeah,
because then it looks like you guys are yeah you're
power walking. You're sure you're power walking up steep.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
I will say that my favorite part of the class
was at the very end when you're done and you're
just sat there at the end of the classes.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Yeah, at the end of the class's favorite. And then
you just kind of lay there and you're breathing, and
then the trainer he made some sort of like speech
that you know, it was for everybody, but it was
it felt like it was for me though, you know
what I mean, like negative it was a positive speech,
like it was like spiritual a little bit, And that
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was my favorite part.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Yeah. Yeah, I felt that way when I went to
soul Cycle. I had a soul Cycle period, I will,
and Soul Cycle was like I just remember being like empowered,
you know. It was a lot of that stuff where
it was just like I'd say things that would speak
to like my inner like just it was like, you know,
(10:05):
you don't have to work out, you get to work out.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
We're like, oh, my mind, you're doing this for you.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
My mind just blown and I would just get on
that bike to nowhere.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Oh yeah, yes, I'm doing it for me.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
You know what I You know what I loved and
hated about soul Cycle is there was a moment it
was like in the two, like twenty twelve sort of era.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Where it was everyone was going right.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
But what people don't realize in Hollywood is that the
front row of soul Cycle you couldn't just turn up
to class and like decide, you know, if you're new,
whatever you're gonna go on.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
The front row was reserved. You served for people that
went all the time.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
It wasn't actually knew how to do those tap backs.
You were tap back kings and queens, and me not
so good at a tap back.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
And so I remember hearing about other actors and their
workout was sort of defined by like like I heard,
for example, Lia Michelle rides in the front.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Oh did you hear that?
Speaker 3 (11:02):
No?
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Oh yeah, well you reserve your bike.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
So yeah, no, but you the unspoken rule is you
don't reserve the front unless you're really good.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
I was not in the front.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
No, I was taking the bank right corner, are you kidding?
I was out on the street.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
I went to one. I was in Los Angeles, a
soul cycle class. I went to one and I recognized
this director as I was coming in, and he was
a really successful director doing a lot of things. And
I actually remember having this kind of like mini little
heart attack because I was like, oh, like this is
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someone who's going to hire people, and like do I
want to see them at Soul Cycle and like do
I want to be in that class? And I don't know.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Anyways, he was in the front. Did you just did
you think like, now's my time to be in the front,
it's my time?
Speaker 1 (11:51):
No? No, no, I re seated further into the.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Back, like you're in the toilet, Yeah, you're in the bathroom.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
I was aware of him, and it was like he
was a very reserved guy, like very straightforward. I mean
I had auditioned for him a couple of times. I'd
seen him in my life. Anyways, Soul Cycle unleashed a
part of him that was definitely. Yeah. He was the
variety that at one point ripped off his tank top,
put it in his right hand and swung it. The
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sweaty tank top was circling the top of his head
like it was a helicopter.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Oh, like a cowboy, Like he's riding a like.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Yeah yeah yeah, with like with like a brave heart.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
This is what I'm talking about. The front row of
Soul Cycle.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
You had to be a willing, different kind of person.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
You had to be willing.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
I there's a lot of controversy recently about well people
filming inside a class.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
This just happened to me. No, Jessica can I I
have very strong feelings about this.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
I do too, but I actually don't even feel like
they're attached to me, having some grandiose idea of who
it is that I am. I just feel that you
should not be filmed while you're in a workout class,
no matter who you are, Why are people filming you
in a workout?
Speaker 3 (13:13):
So the controversy is is that people are placing their
phones to film themselves, but technically, you know there I
am in the back Barry's boot Camp doing my everest incline,
trying to survive.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
I had at two point oh because it's such a
high incline.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
I don't need I hate it.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
I think that there should be a role, truly that
you if you want to film yourself, go to the park,
go outside, bring your weights and film yourself. Do you
not go into a class with other people? And because
I don't like that, I'm not showing up cute, I'm
showing up literally struggling.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Yes, yes, I only just.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Raised my workout apparel game. Thankfully to companies like Alo
and Splits fifty nine. I feel like I've got some
cute workout outfit's going.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Yeah, yeah, you a matching set.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
I'm never a matching I just became a matching set person,
probably influenced by my teenage daughters. But I have become
a matching set type person. And I even recently got
very brave for me, very brave.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
What.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
I never thought that I'd be a take off your
outer layer T shirt person, like I never thought i'd.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Be a brad and leg You're in a crop tops well.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Thankfully a high waisted legging is in. And I mean,
I pull those fuckers.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Up to like I'm telling you, I'm telling you go
get an maternity rib.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
It's like on top of my diaphragm, that's how high
they are.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
And then they're just like a sliver of a but
it's there.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Do ivy a little sliver of abdomen and then my
bra top.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
And I did it in a hot well.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
I actually did the first time I I did it
was actually out of necessity because I was in a
hot yoga class and I thought I might actually pass out.
Like it was a little bit of a timber moment.
I wasn't sure if I was gonna stay up right,
but I took off the top. And then I also figured,
you know what, there's a lot of hands above the
head happening right, so you can just elongate whatever's happening
in the middle.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Yeah. Oh yeah, yeah, you mean like the stretch is
beneficial for the the apps the skin.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
No, it's just a it's a it's an after four
children skin situation. I hear you.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
Have you ever like walked out of a This hasn't
happened to me, but I fear this, walked out of
a workout class and someone snapped your picture?
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Maybe if I did maybe not. No, I mean like,
of course.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
People do it. Sneaky, sneaky, I know. I mean, yes,
people do that. And sometimes you see that and you're like,
oh okay, well there's nothing I mean like let them.
You can't mean, you can't control it. And then there's
been a couple of times where people are just like
can I take a picture with you? And you're like,
I was thinking, when you have that face, it's just
like no, I mean I really don't want but I'm
I'm I always do it. I do it too.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
I actually like, yes, I didn't. I haven't had that
from a workout class. I do sometimes I do feel
this though, I actually is I feel like as an
actress there is this pressure still sadly, to be like
she's an actress, like of course she's an amazing shape
And so when I show up to a workout class,
I often wonder if people are like, she can't run.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
And you prove them right, Yeah, Camilla, I don't think
that's anything to be a fright ashamed.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
I don't think so either.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
By the way, it's very bad for your joints. I
think we should all show up at our classes and
do our best. And also whether or not, I don't know.
I think it's like the whole like you know, dance
like no one's watching. I think if you go, if
you're going to work out, then you should own that
space and do what you want to do and enjoy it.
I mean, isn't the whole point that you're working out
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to better yourself? And I mean I know a lot
of people like personally, I work out because I know
that it's healthy, yes, and I have like you know,
and all joking aside, I know that there are certain
things that are happening in my in this time and
era of my life that are going to all be
better if I pay attention to certain things, so being
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you know, paying attention to my heart health and getting
those steps in and the cardio and all that stuff,
and then you know the fine tuning of lifting weights
or going to apply his class. But it's always kind of,
you know, with the intention of doing something that's healthy
for me. But I have friends who working out is
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necessary for like the space in between their ears, like
they're not right in their day unless they run or
swam or whatever it is fill in the blank.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Yeah, I get that.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
I you know what pisses me off. And I just
when you said something, it just sort of made me
remember it. I don't know when this whole like ten
thousand steps a day became a thing, right like ten thousand.
I don't understand how people are meeting that daily because
I went to Disneyland. No, it actually annoys me. I
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think I hit maybe two hundred. I went to Disneyland,
and I swear I walked the entire day across No,
I was not. No, I'm talking about in my daily
like maybe two hundred. But I'm saying I was a Disneyland.
I walked both those parks with my kids everywhere right
the whole day.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Seven thousand steps? I need three thousand more? How am
I getting ten thousand in as a mom? Do you
know how much I'm driving? Are you gonna ten thousand
in in your day?
Speaker 3 (19:02):
Like you are?
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Where are you going?
Speaker 1 (19:09):
No?
Speaker 2 (19:09):
I'm like, really serious?
Speaker 1 (19:11):
What are you?
Speaker 2 (19:12):
We're yin and yaning here honestly, capshaw right now?
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Yes, I get in absolutely ten thousand steps a day
sometimes fourteen? Wait?
Speaker 2 (19:22):
What the are you serious?
Speaker 3 (19:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (19:25):
I'm walking around for sure?
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Why Oh?
Speaker 1 (19:27):
I always opt to walk when I can?
Speaker 3 (19:29):
Okay, I want to can I just bring I'm being
really serious right now, break down for me. You're at
home today, right, like you're home today, Yeah, your kids
are going off to camp today.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
You've got like what walking? Are you honestly doing? Okay?
Speaker 1 (19:44):
So I'm not working right now, So I am. I'm
in full mom mode, and in that situation, I will
start my day with a walk because I'm you know,
I'm in vacation mode and we're out here and it's
beautiful country and beach and all that stuff. So yes,
I'm I'm walking, and I either will go on my
own with you know, music or a podcast, or one
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of the girls will go with me, or I'll take
a dog.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
And then yeah, do I walk around. I go into town,
we go get coffee.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
I walk, Yeah, I walk. I walk a lot. I do.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
I just don't understand.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
I feel like in my car, I feel like I'm
driving so much on the mass anyway, you live in
Los Angeles, I know, I feel like in my.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Car I need like a pedal car where I can
just live in there. Yeah I can't.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
Are there any workouts that you've hated, by the way,
just curire single one?
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Okay one?
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah yeah No.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
I think honestly, I did ah one of those high
intensity classes, and I do not think the trainer was
paying remote attention to my form.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Yeah, and you can get down of there.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
And my back was like it's like I gave myself
like a severe injury.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
I think that I need vibes. I need good energy
wherever I go, Like I went. I actually even woke
up early to go to the yoga class before work,
and I was like, I'm feeling so good about myself.
I'm feeling so virtuous. I walked to the studio and
I walked in and the guy that was teaching the
class was checking people in. And I hadn't signed up
on the app, you know, beforehand, because I actually was like,
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because then you do it and then whatever, So.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Again times you get a side eye for that, though.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
I got more than a side eye from this guy.
Oh you did. He was a dick.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
And I walked in and he.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Looks up and he looks at me, and I, of course,
I'm like, good morning, cause again we're in Nashville. Everyone's nice.
And he looks at me and is like, what's up.
I don't want to be met with a what's up?
Speaker 2 (21:41):
No, no, no, thank you.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Anyways, it evolved from there. It was it was a while,
and then he was like, why didn't you book the
class online? And I was like, well, you know what,
I didn't do you want to do it from my
phone so you can check other people in and he
was like, no, it's okay, it's fine, but whatever, I'll
just do it, and then yeah, whatever. He did not
stop giving me a hard time. And then by the
fourth thing that he said to me that just had
bad energy, I was like, I am now going on
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a walk instead of going to this yoga class.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Really, you you bounced? I left? Oh? Good for you?
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Yeah? Yeah yeah. I had an internal conversation with myself
about healthy boundaries, and then I wondered what was the
best way for me to tell him that I was
leaving his class, Like should I actually tell him it
was because of him? Or if I should just leave?
These are things that happened in my brain.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Did you tell him?
Speaker 1 (22:25):
No? But I thought about it, and then I thought
about writing a strongly worded YELP review. I just want
people to be fair.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Yeah, I don't like that.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Vibes.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
Ok, yeah, yeah, all right, I'm gonna I'm gonna try
out some more classes.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
But I do want to finish this just because I
do feel that this is this is true true to me.
I do feel that we actually it's hard to get there.
But every time that I work out, I'm happy I
have and I do feel like it is true that
you're just a workout away from a good moods.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
The most annoying like not really, I would prefer to okay,
great and well let's call it. At the end of
the episode,
Call It what it is with Jessica Capshaw and Camille Luddington,
an iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Well, Hello, Hello, Hello, Hello.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Call it crew, and welcome to another episode of Short
and Sweet.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Is this sweet? Though I had to I had.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
To really rack my brain, really rack my brainforce when
I had.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
To have been a little more challenging for you, a
little more uphill for you.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
This is probably the most challenging one for me.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Do slots go uphill?
Speaker 2 (00:40):
We before a down roll. This episode is about working out.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Yeah, and so you know it, I like a mental
challenge that's so much a physical I mean, so.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
But what do you do about it? Because that's that's
that's the question.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
So I mean, I of course listen, okay, so let's
talk about working out.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Okay, workout routines.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
I've noticed everyone's noticed on social media they don't comment
about me. They comment about your arms, really bally, Yes, yes,
I'm waiting.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
For just you're giving me new information.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
You don't know this?
Speaker 3 (01:16):
No, oh my god. Yes, they talk about like how
great your arms look. And I'm scrolling for now, waiting
for I have a little arm comment. For Camille Luddington,
It's like a desert out there for me.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
I'm thirsty. So what is your arm?
Speaker 1 (01:36):
What we can end right now?
Speaker 2 (01:37):
I know for here we go?
Speaker 1 (01:40):
You know what, I've always been self conscious about my arms,
especially on camera or like when you're taking pictures. I'm
terrible at taking pictures, by the way, I mean a
photo shoot is really a weighted I look like I'm
having fun, but it's because I'm channeling some other human,
some other mindset, some other something, because I fucking hate it.
I hate it. I'll never forget. My first photo shoot
ever was from this like ABC half hour Thank God
(02:03):
It's Friday Show, where I was playing like some I
don't even know, but I was. They they try and
get you to like loosen up by giving you a circumstance.
And ABC gives us like this, you know circumstance and
it's an ice cream bar and you're supposed to all
be making like you know, Sundays, but look like you're
having fun doing it. Yeah, and uh, I was the
only one that definitely looked like they were not having
fun making an ice cream The feedback, Yeah, that was
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the feedback.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Yeah, like they like truly they were like trying to
like mix up a martini in the back to loosen
cap shop. They're like, she's got to loose it up.
I just look frozen.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
I'm like, that's not true, because I did the whole
photo shoot with you for call it what it is,
and you've gotten better.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
I've gotten better, No, you, we're just saying early early
me was like a deer in headlights just having photos taken.
It's just hard.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Well, everyone's commenting on how gorge you look. So let's hear.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
I'll take it, guys, I will take it.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
I will take it the routine before I get into mine,
because mine's gonaake forever.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Here's yeah's how many components are on that list of
working out for you?
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Well, actually I can tell your workout story, actually, Jessica
captur Ale right now, Oh tell it to me then, okay. Well,
back in the day here in Los Angeles, Barry's boot
Camp was the place to go, you guys. And if
you don't have a Barrie's boot Camp where you're at
basically it's.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Treadmills on one side, waits on the other. And you
used to get tortured at Burry's boot Camp.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Yes, and called out publication, get.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Called out like Luddington you look like a soth rolling
downhill on a treadmill.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Okay, so and they would touch.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Your treadmill like they would they would make it go faster.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
You're like running and you feel like you're dying and
they're like, no, you can go up.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Like it was.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
It was not a good situation there.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
And I but I was in my twenties, and that's
where everyone went, well, Barrie's has come back around. My girlfriend,
who I love and looks amazing, was like, why don't
you come with me to Bury's boot camp? And I
started crying because I had, you know, obviously memories of
the past and I was like, absolutely not, never again,
and she said no, it's changed, right, like it's different.
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So I went with her to Berry's and when I
walked in I was like, Okay, this is kind of
cool because it wasn't like a bunch of girls in
their twenties.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
It felt like a lot of moms. And I was like, Okay,
everyone looks great. Here's what I don't like and and
this is Barrie's is not good for this. Every trainer
is a smoke show camp. Okay, but I don't I
don't need you to be the hottest Macatti while I'm like.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Kind of dying on a treadmill, like I need you
to look like you're a little disheveled.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait, But they're meant
to be there inspiring you.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
You know you don't want you don't you want to
look at the person who's leading to class and be
like that's what I'm moving towards.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
But I'm I'm talking about like every hair's perfect, like
perfect tan, like there's a there's an essence that's just
like they're they're like Greek gods because.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
They're also simultaneously shooting all their tiktoks and then their
like you know, reality shows on the side in Los Angeles.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
I'm not thinking about that.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
I'm thinking like, like I showed up and I was
wearing my retainer, and so when I went to when
my friend introduced me to this smoking smoke show of
a trainer, I was like him, came on, but the
little return yeah, because I can never get rid of
the list. And they're like, hi, you know, is it
your first time. I'm like, yes, my first time. I
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felt like I was like twelve years old. And then
I got thrown in there and everyone's running. Everyone can run.
I didn't know that everyone could run.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Well, I don't run unless chased. And we've discussed this before.
Let me ask you a question because I want to
just really round out the picture of you in a
Berry's bootcam class. Talk to me about you.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
What are you wearing? Okay, well, that's the other thing.
I didn't realize.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
The Berries merch was kind of flying off the shelves,
and when you walk in there you realize the participants bodies.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Yes, and I kind of showed up. I am to
be honest.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
I like a really baggy T shirt and I like
my my legans, my alo what are they called?
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Alololo llo? I love the alley. You can tell that
I wear them often because I don't know how to
say called them. But actually I think my legands. Why
do you can call them legings?
Speaker 1 (06:20):
No?
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Wait, wait, aren't they legings?
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Are they not?
Speaker 1 (06:27):
This is how much she works out, guys, I mean,
what are legends?
Speaker 2 (06:32):
What are you talking about? They're legends? No, they're not,
Yes they are, No, they're not.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
There's a G at the end of leggings.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
I know legends leggings. The g's silent. Everybody knows that.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Yeah, No, they're like, they're leggings.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
No they're not.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Anyway, I wear I also wear it.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
This is we're gonna need to ask people where they
where they are in this camp. So let's just make
sure we put out a social where you can for
whether or not it's leggings or leggings.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
The gust be right.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
I just kind of want to get this.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
One right, okay.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
I also think that you gave me and I never
gave back. You're okay, people are gonna laugh at this,
but they're my favorite thing to work out and the
beyond yoga mm hm pants. When I was pregnant, you
gave me two of yours. I still wear them because
it's soft on the old belly and you can pull
(07:40):
that shit up right up to the boobs. Yeah. Yeah,
I was in maternity wear and a T shirt and
everyone was looking hot in their berries stuff and the
berries merch, and I definitely listen.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
I enjoyed the class. I really did.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
I felt kind of cool when it came out. I
was like, what a protein shake? Sure, Like you know,
I'm like cool. I haven't really been back.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
It was a one undone for you. I went twice.
I went the next day and then okay that was it.
I went, Yes, it was two days in a row.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
No class back for you. You weren't buying more than that.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
No, there wasn't a class back. And I, to be honest,
I'm worried about an injury.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Right, Yeah, you might pull a hammy or something when
someone goes to accelerate your treadmill. First of all, to
also further set the mood for anything, it's.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Like a class.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
It's a club. There's really loud music, there's a definite like,
there's a there's a sense memory to the smell of it. Right,
it's not like rubber and sweat. And then there's mirrors everywhere. Yeah,
you can't escape yourself, not escape yourself, and so you're
just confronted with yourself, which is you know, probably good
(08:49):
for some and not good for others.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
But I.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Strongly disliked Berrys boot camp running on a treadmill. I
just don't like running on I.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Was the only one walking. But to be to feel cool,
I made it like an was yeah, like the Everest line. Yeah,
because then it looks like you guys are yeah you're
power walking. You're sure you're power walking up steep.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
I will say that my favorite part of the class
was at the very end when you're done and you're
just sat there at the end of the classes.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Yeah, at the end of the class's favorite. And then
you just kind of lay there and you're breathing, and
then the trainer he made some sort of like speech
that you know, it was for everybody, but it was
it felt like it was for me though, you know
what I mean, like negative it was a positive speech,
like it was like spiritual a little bit, And that
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was my favorite part.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Yeah. Yeah, I felt that way when I went to
soul Cycle. I had a soul Cycle period, I will,
and Soul Cycle was like I just remember being like empowered,
you know. It was a lot of that stuff where
it was just like I'd say things that would speak
to like my inner like just it was like, you know,
(10:05):
you don't have to work out, you get to work out.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
We're like, oh, my mind, you're doing this for you.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
My mind just blown and I would just get on
that bike to nowhere.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Oh yeah, yes, I'm doing it for me.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
You know what I You know what I loved and
hated about soul Cycle is there was a moment it
was like in the two, like twenty twelve sort of era.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Where it was everyone was going right.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
But what people don't realize in Hollywood is that the
front row of soul Cycle you couldn't just turn up
to class and like decide, you know, if you're new,
whatever you're gonna go on.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
The front row was reserved. You served for people that
went all the time.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
It wasn't actually knew how to do those tap backs.
You were tap back kings and queens, and me not
so good at a tap back.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
And so I remember hearing about other actors and their
workout was sort of defined by like like I heard,
for example, Lia Michelle rides in the front.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Oh did you hear that?
Speaker 3 (11:02):
No?
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Oh yeah, well you reserve your bike.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
So yeah, no, but you the unspoken rule is you
don't reserve the front unless you're really good.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
I was not in the front.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
No, I was taking the bank right corner, are you kidding?
I was out on the street.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
I went to one. I was in Los Angeles, a
soul cycle class. I went to one and I recognized
this director as I was coming in, and he was
a really successful director doing a lot of things. And
I actually remember having this kind of like mini little
heart attack because I was like, oh, like this is
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someone who's going to hire people, and like do I
want to see them at Soul Cycle and like do
I want to be in that class? And I don't know.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Anyways, he was in the front. Did you just did
you think like, now's my time to be in the front,
it's my time?
Speaker 1 (11:51):
No? No, no, I re seated further into the.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Back, like you're in the toilet, Yeah, you're in the bathroom.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
I was aware of him, and it was like he
was a very reserved guy, like very straightforward. I mean
I had auditioned for him a couple of times. I'd
seen him in my life. Anyways, Soul Cycle unleashed a
part of him that was definitely. Yeah. He was the
variety that at one point ripped off his tank top,
put it in his right hand and swung it. The
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sweaty tank top was circling the top of his head
like it was a helicopter.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Oh, like a cowboy, Like he's riding a like.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Yeah yeah yeah, with like with like a brave heart.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
This is what I'm talking about. The front row of
Soul Cycle.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
You had to be a willing, different kind of person.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
You had to be willing.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
I there's a lot of controversy recently about well people
filming inside a class.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
This just happened to me. No, Jessica can I I
have very strong feelings about this.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
I do too, but I actually don't even feel like
they're attached to me, having some grandiose idea of who
it is that I am. I just feel that you
should not be filmed while you're in a workout class,
no matter who you are, Why are people filming you
in a workout?
Speaker 3 (13:13):
So the controversy is is that people are placing their
phones to film themselves, but technically, you know there I
am in the back Barry's boot Camp doing my everest incline,
trying to survive.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
I had at two point oh because it's such a
high incline.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
I don't need I hate it.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
I think that there should be a role, truly that
you if you want to film yourself, go to the park,
go outside, bring your weights and film yourself. Do you
not go into a class with other people? And because
I don't like that, I'm not showing up cute, I'm
showing up literally struggling.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Yes, yes, I only just.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Raised my workout apparel game. Thankfully to companies like Alo
and Splits fifty nine. I feel like I've got some
cute workout outfit's going.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Yeah, yeah, you a matching set.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
I'm never a matching I just became a matching set person,
probably influenced by my teenage daughters. But I have become
a matching set type person. And I even recently got
very brave for me, very brave.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
What.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
I never thought that I'd be a take off your
outer layer T shirt person, like I never thought i'd.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Be a brad and leg You're in a crop tops well.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Thankfully a high waisted legging is in. And I mean,
I pull those fuckers.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Up to like I'm telling you, I'm telling you go
get an maternity rib.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
It's like on top of my diaphragm, that's how high
they are.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
And then they're just like a sliver of a but
it's there.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Do ivy a little sliver of abdomen and then my
bra top.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
And I did it in a hot well.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
I actually did the first time I I did it
was actually out of necessity because I was in a
hot yoga class and I thought I might actually pass out.
Like it was a little bit of a timber moment.
I wasn't sure if I was gonna stay up right,
but I took off the top. And then I also figured,
you know what, there's a lot of hands above the
head happening right, so you can just elongate whatever's happening
in the middle.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Yeah. Oh yeah, yeah, you mean like the stretch is
beneficial for the the apps the skin.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
No, it's just a it's a it's an after four
children skin situation. I hear you.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
Have you ever like walked out of a This hasn't
happened to me, but I fear this, walked out of
a workout class and someone snapped your picture?
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Maybe if I did maybe not. No, I mean like,
of course.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
People do it. Sneaky, sneaky, I know. I mean, yes,
people do that. And sometimes you see that and you're like,
oh okay, well there's nothing I mean like let them.
You can't mean, you can't control it. And then there's
been a couple of times where people are just like
can I take a picture with you? And you're like,
I was thinking, when you have that face, it's just
like no, I mean I really don't want but I'm
I'm I always do it. I do it too.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
I actually like, yes, I didn't. I haven't had that
from a workout class. I do sometimes I do feel
this though, I actually is I feel like as an
actress there is this pressure still sadly, to be like
she's an actress, like of course she's an amazing shape
And so when I show up to a workout class,
I often wonder if people are like, she can't run.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
And you prove them right, Yeah, Camilla, I don't think
that's anything to be a fright ashamed.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
I don't think so either.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
By the way, it's very bad for your joints. I
think we should all show up at our classes and
do our best. And also whether or not, I don't know.
I think it's like the whole like you know, dance
like no one's watching. I think if you go, if
you're going to work out, then you should own that
space and do what you want to do and enjoy it.
I mean, isn't the whole point that you're working out
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to better yourself? And I mean I know a lot
of people like personally, I work out because I know
that it's healthy, yes, and I have like you know,
and all joking aside, I know that there are certain
things that are happening in my in this time and
era of my life that are going to all be
better if I pay attention to certain things, so being
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you know, paying attention to my heart health and getting
those steps in and the cardio and all that stuff,
and then you know the fine tuning of lifting weights
or going to apply his class. But it's always kind of,
you know, with the intention of doing something that's healthy
for me. But I have friends who working out is
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necessary for like the space in between their ears, like
they're not right in their day unless they run or
swam or whatever it is fill in the blank.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Yeah, I get that.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
I you know what pisses me off. And I just
when you said something, it just sort of made me
remember it. I don't know when this whole like ten
thousand steps a day became a thing, right like ten thousand.
I don't understand how people are meeting that daily because
I went to Disneyland. No, it actually annoys me. I
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think I hit maybe two hundred. I went to Disneyland,
and I swear I walked the entire day across No,
I was not. No, I'm talking about in my daily
like maybe two hundred. But I'm saying I was a Disneyland.
I walked both those parks with my kids everywhere right
the whole day.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Seven thousand steps? I need three thousand more? How am
I getting ten thousand in as a mom? Do you
know how much I'm driving? Are you gonna ten thousand
in in your day?
Speaker 3 (19:02):
Like you are?
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Where are you going?
Speaker 1 (19:09):
No?
Speaker 2 (19:09):
I'm like, really serious?
Speaker 1 (19:11):
What are you?
Speaker 2 (19:12):
We're yin and yaning here honestly, capshaw right now?
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Yes, I get in absolutely ten thousand steps a day
sometimes fourteen? Wait?
Speaker 2 (19:22):
What the are you serious?
Speaker 3 (19:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (19:25):
I'm walking around for sure?
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Why Oh?
Speaker 1 (19:27):
I always opt to walk when I can?
Speaker 3 (19:29):
Okay, I want to can I just bring I'm being
really serious right now, break down for me. You're at
home today, right, like you're home today, Yeah, your kids
are going off to camp today.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
You've got like what walking? Are you honestly doing? Okay?
Speaker 1 (19:44):
So I'm not working right now, So I am. I'm
in full mom mode, and in that situation, I will
start my day with a walk because I'm you know,
I'm in vacation mode and we're out here and it's
beautiful country and beach and all that stuff. So yes,
I'm I'm walking, and I either will go on my
own with you know, music or a podcast, or one
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of the girls will go with me, or I'll take
a dog.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
And then yeah, do I walk around. I go into town,
we go get coffee.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
I walk, Yeah, I walk. I walk a lot. I do.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
I just don't understand.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
I feel like in my car, I feel like I'm
driving so much on the mass anyway, you live in
Los Angeles, I know, I feel like in my.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Car I need like a pedal car where I can
just live in there. Yeah I can't.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
Are there any workouts that you've hated, by the way,
just curire single one?
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Okay one?
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah yeah No.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
I think honestly, I did ah one of those high
intensity classes, and I do not think the trainer was
paying remote attention to my form.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Yeah, and you can get down of there.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
And my back was like it's like I gave myself
like a severe injury.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
I think that I need vibes. I need good energy
wherever I go, Like I went. I actually even woke
up early to go to the yoga class before work,
and I was like, I'm feeling so good about myself.
I'm feeling so virtuous. I walked to the studio and
I walked in and the guy that was teaching the
class was checking people in. And I hadn't signed up
on the app, you know, beforehand, because I actually was like,
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because then you do it and then whatever, So.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Again times you get a side eye for that, though.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
I got more than a side eye from this guy.
Oh you did. He was a dick.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
And I walked in and he.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Looks up and he looks at me, and I, of course,
I'm like, good morning, cause again we're in Nashville. Everyone's nice.
And he looks at me and is like, what's up.
I don't want to be met with a what's up?
Speaker 2 (21:41):
No, no, no, thank you.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Anyways, it evolved from there. It was it was a while,
and then he was like, why didn't you book the
class online? And I was like, well, you know what,
I didn't do you want to do it from my
phone so you can check other people in and he
was like, no, it's okay, it's fine, but whatever, I'll
just do it, and then yeah, whatever. He did not
stop giving me a hard time. And then by the
fourth thing that he said to me that just had
bad energy, I was like, I am now going on
(22:05):
a walk instead of going to this yoga class.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Really, you you bounced? I left? Oh? Good for you?
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Yeah? Yeah yeah. I had an internal conversation with myself
about healthy boundaries, and then I wondered what was the
best way for me to tell him that I was
leaving his class, Like should I actually tell him it
was because of him? Or if I should just leave?
These are things that happened in my brain.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Did you tell him?
Speaker 1 (22:25):
No? But I thought about it, and then I thought
about writing a strongly worded YELP review. I just want
people to be fair.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Yeah, I don't like that.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Vibes.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
Ok, yeah, yeah, all right, I'm gonna I'm gonna try
out some more classes.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
But I do want to finish this just because I
do feel that this is this is true true to me.
I do feel that we actually it's hard to get there.
But every time that I work out, I'm happy I
have and I do feel like it is true that
you're just a workout away from a good moods.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
The most annoying like not really, I would prefer to okay,
great and well let's call it. At the end of
the episode,
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