May 15, 2025 • 28 mins
Puppies are adorable, but like babies, they can bring on some post arrival blues.
Camilla explains how her new pooch is making her come to terms with this new diagnosis as Jess reveals why she got a second dog.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Call It What It Is with Jessica Capshaw and Camille Luddington,
an iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Hello, Hello, Hello, Hello Call It crew, and welcome to
another episode of Call It What It Is. Let's just
dive in because it's just me and you today. There's
no guest today, and I think that we need to
tell a little bit of the backstory of how I
got here and how we got to this episode. Mm hmm, Okay,
here's what has happened. Everybody knows that I.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Have three rescue dogs. I have Gus and Sully.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
They're my dogs I've had for like thirteen years with Matt,
that's how old they are. And then I have Caspar,
who's my newest rescue. He's two years old. He was
dumped in a box as a puppy. He's this cattle
dog retrievers lab mixed with all the love, all the energy,
all the things, and he's adorable. But what I realized
(01:06):
is when I brought him home is that my older
dogs have zero interest in playing with him.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Right.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
They were just they weren't like it isn't like the
dogs were like fighting when we got him. It's just
that they were bored. They didn't want anything to do
with him. They want they want to their pillows, they
want to sit on the couch, they want to wait
for a little bit piece of cheese if it comes
their way.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
And when they get to go.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
To the dog park, they're happy, and then they want
to come home and be a pillow again. They're cozy
and their old age, and to be honest, both of
them we rescued when one was one and one was four.
They've always sort of been like that. They were street
dogs before, and so they didn't they honestly didn't really
come with like puppy energy.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
So Casper bugs them all the time.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
He's on the couch with a ball in his mouth,
just waiting for anyone to play with him. And it
started get really sad. So conversation a year ago started
where I said to Matt listened, I think we should
get Casper a friend, a puppy buddy friend. Matt was like,
hell no, and I was like, just think on it.
(02:14):
I'll send you four dogs a day to look at,
which is what's happened for the past year. And we've
come really close to adopting a couple and Matt has
not been super into it.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
He's like, okay, you do this. You got to start.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Helping out more. You got to pick up the poops
because I don't do poop pooping.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Up in our yard. Okay, so you said you got
to pick up the poops. You got to feed them more.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Easter Sunday rolls around and we go to an Easter
lunch and then Matt has to go and do this
meeting actually on Easter. So he goes and does this, well,
it's an audition. He has to do this like audition thing,
put something on tape, and he's like, Okay, I'll be
back home after And so I, sneaky sneak knew that
there was a wag More Pets is a rescue in
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Studio City in the Valley in Los Angeles. I knew
that they were open for the day on Easter for
any rescue. So I put the kids in the car
and I was like, don't tell daddy, We're gonna go
to the rescue and we're just gonna My plan was
just we never.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Start a sentence with don't tell daddy, don't sell daddy.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
It's not a full secret because none will not happened.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
In the know that I'd want to want to use.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
At the point where I was like, listen, if you
want to get one, get one, fine, you know.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
So I was like, we're gonna go. We're just my
plan was just to hold a couple puppies. I just thought, like,
we'll hold them. When them, we'll go. That's always the plan.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
So we went and they held. They sat and they
held a couple of Pomeranian puppies. And then I said,
do you have any other little puppies back there in
the pack, anyone that wants to come forward? Like it's
like a seance, right, and does anyone else want to
come forward? And they're like, we do. Actually we have
a pure bread English black lab. And they said he
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had a little sister who was a yellow lab and
she went in twenty four hours and him and his
brother sat forever, and he was the last one and
he came out Jess and his eyes locked with mine and.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
He yeah, take me home. Yeah, And I.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Said, also, I'll disclose I was on my period, so
I was feeling a little emotional when he was looking
at me.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
He caught me the wrong time of the life, like.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
Going grocery shopping when you're hungry, nothing to stand between
you and taking that dot com because you told your
children not to tell daddy no.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
And I couldn't call him because I didn't want to
interrupt that audition.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
That would have been really amp And you knew.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
He was yeah, because he was locked up. He wasn't
going to come out of nowhere and be like yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Put him in the car, drove home with him. I
get home, I'm so excited. The dogs all greet him.
There's no real issues. And then here's what happened. They're
running around the backyard and we have a nice we
have a large backyard. I would never adopt four dogs
if we didn't have some sort of back yard because
that'd be mean, right, So running out of the backyard
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and suddenly I kind of almost like sobered up, and
it looked like, yes, this is what I sat sobered up,
and I was like, that's a lot of dogs.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
These were a lot of dogs in my backyard.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
And I thought, crap, Matt's going to come home and
I have to break the news to him, like there's
another doll in here and check your credit cards statement,
did not have a dogbed, did not have food, didn't
have anything for him. Uh Nott comes home and I
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burst into tears.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Yeah you did.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
By the way, that was very well played. Sympathy for
you is what he's supposed to have right now. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
sympathy for you.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
You've created this.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
I did itoation, and I felt terrible because I.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Have never experienced this before. This is what the episode's
going to be about.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
I burst into tears and I said, I think I've
made a terrible mistake, like I have taken on this
dog and.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
For life, right.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
And I'm looking at all these dogs in our backyard
and it looks like that scene where Melissa McCarthy steals
all the puppies and bridesmaids and there does twenty of
them in.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
The back Like I felt like her probably just as unhinged,
quite frankly as unhinged.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
And he is very he's very steady in the storm.
And he was like, he's really cute, and you've made
the commitment and it's time to put on your big
girl pants now and you've been wanting this for a
long time. And he's we're obviously keeping him.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
I love Matt.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
He's so good in these situations, I know. So that's
how Scooby came into our life. Scooby, Scooby. That's how
Scooby came in. Here's what I did not anticipate. My
first two dogs were street dogs. They came potty trained, right,
they came older, They were not in a crate. They
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just kind of sat around. They were fine.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
When I got Casper, we did get him as a puppy,
but I had to work immediately after. Matt had to work,
and so we did the very swing keep thing of
sending the puppy all yeah to a little doggie boarding
school where they go for three weeks and they come
back and they're fully trained.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Yeah yeah, yeah, And I think you did that with
your puppy. It's expensive too, It is so much money.
Did you do that because you have Aguscus and you're
a cal Yeah yeah, yeah yeah did you did you
do the puppy boarding school?
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Okay, So I'm like you, I love dogs.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
I've always loved dogs.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
I've always had dogs, and when I got out of college,
I was like, of course I can handle having a dog.
I could not, absolutely not at all. And I think
the main reason why I couldn't was because I didn't
take the time to train the dog.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
So I learned my lesson the hard way. Did you
have to rehome the puppy. I did have to reh
I'm that puppy. There's no shame in that, no, I know.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
And by the way, she we found her an incredible
home and she lived out her days in total luxury
and there's no way to meet and I could go
visit her, and she finally did mellow out. She was
a lab and she had a ton of energy, and
I could not meet her where she was at.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
You were a college kid.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
I was just out of college and I was I mean,
I was hustling. I was trying to get jobs.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
I was like, I got a work scheduled, then I
got a job, and then I was working crazy hours. Yeah, no, no,
that's yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
You know.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
It was just a lot. And she was really not
very well behaved.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
If you have the wherewithal and if you can afford
to have them go off for training, I am all
for it. Yeah, And we did do that with Gus
also because we did not have a dog, and we
did have four children. So when I put my four
children in the backyard, to me, that looked like a
lot of children, yes, yeah, yeah, and adding in a.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Dog, I was like, oh, very buckle up. And Josie
was little. Yeah, she was little, she was like one
or two.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
But then then we had we we he came great train.
Although then he shows up and he actually wasn't. And
I did go to a dog trainer and get all
of her tips and tricks.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
I love her so much. She's in Los Angeles. You
should totally go use her. And uh. The first night
in the crate, he cried and cried and cried and.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
Cried, and I felt so terrible, and he didn't want
to go in this crate they that they told me,
you know, was his den and so hot.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
He was so happy. No, he wasn't.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
He wanted to get the fuck out of that crate. Yeah,
and scream and cry. He was like no. And I
had four kids, and I was like, this is this
puppy cannot take my ship down.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
And so.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
In that first week I definitely did like put him
in a half nelson.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
At one point. It's a half nelson like right under
like right underneath my arm.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
Like I had to snug a fly him a little bit,
like you know in the dog world, you got to
dominate and didn't hurt him. I'm very gentle, but I
was like, you know, you got to be the alpha
and you got to put them on their back and like,
you know, be the alpha, and so I aufed him
and then honestly, it was just that one little tussle
that we had and he's been he's been a dream
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dog ever since.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
He knew. In that moment, he's like, don't mess with
mom m macappi.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
No, what about cal Because then you got a second puppy.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that is the one that I had
the puppy blues with a bit.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
We really wanted him. We had just moved.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
We were in a rental that all felt like a
really good idea to have a puppy, but all of
a sudden we were in seasons and he he has
a disposition that's a little more like I always think
dogs have voices and gus, you know, the aforementioned you know,
little teeny bit of a bumpy beginning, but then total
acquiescence and and he kind of like walks around the
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house and I think that his his voice, his dog voice,
and pets would be.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Like, well hello there, oh right, shall we sit?
Speaker 4 (11:03):
I think I'm going to get outside and get a
lie in the sun.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Today, Like that's how he talks. And then all of
a sudden Cal showed up and Cal's like, oh my, oh, like,
what are we gonna do? Can I eat that?
Speaker 4 (11:14):
Oh that's okay, I'll eat moons, which, by the way,
it really grosses me out that that situation. I mean,
if you're gonna eat your poop in front of me,
how am I meant to ask you to come into
my home?
Speaker 3 (11:26):
I don't know understand.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
Isn't that what boundaries are for? Are we supposed to
exercise them? Aren't we supposed to say no? So I felt, yes,
I had peppy blues.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
And also all the kids were kind of looking at me.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
Like, I mean, he's really cute, but he does seem
a little naughty, and yeah, I had no backup for
any reasons to keep him, but I was not getting
he was not going anywhere. So I was like, yeah,
that was the blues part. Yes, my general feelings of dissatisfaction.
I just like to really things that you get.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
So the first night he cries all night in his crate,
and you know, I'm reading the tiktoks, It's like they
really need to be in their crate. They love their creates.
It's going to be their safe space. He acted like
that crate was like Alcatraz.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Right on fire or on fire building yep.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
And he even figured out how to unlock it, like
he was fucking Houdini. And he came out and he
was so excited, and the first night he ended up
on the couch, he was just chilling. When I came
down the morning, I was like.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
How did you get out?
Speaker 2 (12:32):
And there was a poop and a pee out. I'm like,
what the point is? You've been using the term puppy blues.
I have never heard of this term. And by day
three of me crying over the stress of this new dog,
I wonder so many things. I'm gonna be honest, I
thought like I can't handle this, and this is really
(12:54):
embarrassing because I have a bunch of other dogs and
I have kids, and I felt like our dynamic and
our home was so cop aesthetic and we had our
thing down, and now I've introduced this other being for
what reason? And it's all fucked up. And my kids
usually had been caught. My son had trouble sleeping for
(13:15):
years and he was coming in every night to wake
me up. And he just the past month like stopped
doing that, and now I'm like, hey, let me figure
out a way to not get any more sleep again.
And then I just bought new rugs and shit here,
and of course he's like, that's a new rug. Great,
that's a fucking potty that I love now right.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
Yeah, by day three.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
I was crying to Matt and I was like, I
think I'm depressed. I think I'm depressed, and he was like,
you know, did his Matt thing of like, yeah, we
got this, don't worry, it's gonna.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
Be out of that.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
So I got on TikTok as you do, and I
looked up people's experience with puppies and there was like
postpartum puppy came up, I'm puppy blues.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Had you heard of these terms before? We talked about
them in the No, no, no, no, definitely, so I
had not either.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
So these terms came up and hundreds, probably thousands of
videos came up of people saying I'm so depressed after
getting this beautiful puppy that I've been dying to get.
I'm anxious, I'm not sleeping, I'm having trouble, I'm working
from home.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
This is a nightmare.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
I don't even love the dog, and I thought I
loved the dog, and then in the comments, it's like
two years later now they love the dog.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
So there truly is this period of.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Time that I was not aware of that I wish
I had been aware of, called the puppy blues, and
I'd never had it before, and so.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
We thought we'd do a whole episode on it.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
Yeah, and just call it what it's also like, you
do you deal with real feelings because it's a real, living,
breathing animal that you are and you're in charge of
taking care of. I felt very guilty when I was
having a hard time.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
I felt so guilty. I felt absolutely terrible.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
Because Matt giving you any of the like when it's hard,
is he like you kind of do this to yourself.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
I didn't think it through, and I have to say though,
Casper and him became fast best friends, and if they
had enough, if that had enough happened, I would have
really regretted it because I would have thought, like, this
is the reason I'm really doing it.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
Yeah, by the way, guess couldn't have cared less about
cal We thought that that was going to be the case,
like they would be playmates, but Nope, they both just
care about us.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
Yeah, my other dogs don't care, but they really are
best friends. And what I didn't know is that the
English lab compared to it. He's a pure bred English Lab.
They're actually much calmer than American labs, and so he's
pretty chill. He's actually really chill, floppy, real cute puppy.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
Thank god.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Okay, so here are some facts that I found kind
of interesting. A significant number of dog owners, estimated around
seventy percent, experience what's known as the puppy blues after
bringing home a new puppy. These feelings can manifest as anxiety, depression,
or both, often due to the significant changes in lifestyle
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and responsibility that come with puppy care. And it said
the East Coast Dog Training found in a twenty twenty
three survey, seventy percent of puppy owners reported sentiments of
anxiety and depression or depression, which is bond caruse. The
Hoffington Post is on a whole article piece on this,
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and the title of it is, Yes, the puppy blues
are a real thing. Here's how to cope. We'll get
into that, but we also threw it out to you
guys and we asked if you guys had experienced any
of this, and so we should read some of the
submissions we got because the crew gets it.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
Yes they do, Yes, they do. The union they understood.
Speaker 4 (16:59):
So let's start with Nicole and Nicle wrote in and said,
it's literally like postpartum depression. Hard to tell if it's
the change that's a struggle, or if it was just
the wrong decision.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
Yeah, I think that's where it starts.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Yeah, and I think I think that you have your
home and you're set in your ways, and then you
imagine this cute little thing coming in and just being
part of it, like going with the flow, and you're like.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
No, you're the main event.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Now, Yeah, you're the main event, and you're sort of
dictating right like hearing him, I'm up.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
I'm still up right now.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
I'm like two weeks into it, I'm still up through
the night to take him out. Megan wrote, my dog
was a nightmare from the time we brought her home
until four months, constant biting, crying, chewed her way out
of a wooden crate we brought her.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Oh yeah, he.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Chewed his Yeah, he chewed his way out of a
wooden gate. Guys, he was able to get himself out
of once her puppy teeth fell out, she was a
different dog. She's been mine, my husband's, and my kid's
best friends for eight and a half years.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Now.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
Okay, that's a good that's a good story. By the way,
I love Cal and I and we got through it.
He's still he's still definitely the naughtier of the dogs.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
But he's so sweet. He is so sweet. Yeah, I
love him. And he's like a heartier size.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
Guess it's a little more like, you know, a little puff,
but a smaller body. But Cal's got like some girth.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
I like it.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Yeah, And it's funny because even now I'm two weeks in,
I haven't.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Cried in you know, a week, and so it's gotten
a little better.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
And I've made it a where I said to Matt,
next time I make a b decision, I need to
not be in my period because that was probably not
the right time for me to like be really resilient
and making a decision too.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
But I love this damn dog. I love this dog.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
And it's still tough and we're still dealing with all
the things because it's he's fresh, right, He's.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
Just out of the oven. He's just been Are you
still great training? Yes? We are, but I have to
tell you, I I here's why I don't like.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
I went on TikTok and everyone's like, okay, So here's
what you're gonna do. You're gonna make the crate like
his little space that he just loves.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
You're gonna throw a treat in and throw a treat out.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Okay, great, Like that's a cute exercise for ten minutes, Right,
what fucking happens at ten pm?
Speaker 3 (19:24):
When you put that dog in?
Speaker 2 (19:25):
You can't sit by that crate and go okay minutes
and you treats every thirty minutes for the next fucking
twelve a.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
Here's what happens.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
They cry and they're crying loud, and they're barking, and
it's so stressful. And if I had an apartment, I
would seriously not know what to do because I would
feel the anxiety of neighbors.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Next to me.
Speaker 4 (19:47):
Yeah yeah, yeah, Oh has he pooped in his crate yet?
They always say that they don't do that, But guess what, minded.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
He has not yet. You better hope he doesn't.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
But like knock on wood, Alexandra, create training is so
worth it.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
But it's a lot of sleepless nights.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
I had not so, like I said, I had never
done the crate training before.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
I started to dread the evenings, like really dread.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Them, yeah, and get like kind of almost emotional at night,
being like.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Okay, it's my turn. I'm being real.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
I know it sounds crazy, and I said, Champaign problems, right,
I have a puppy, like, oh my god, boo oo me,
but I felt yeah, I did find it very isolating
and depressing. And I have three other dogs, and I
had never experienced this before. So I'm glad we're talking
about it.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
So Blair wrote it and said we just got another
dog because our older dog was lonely, and now they
are inseparable.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
We'll see good for you. Maybe they do make friends
every once in a while, they do, Chloe sid The
waking up at three am to take them out is brutal.
I have I have a two thirty timer. That's when
I tick him out. When does that stop? How long
did you do that? I don't know.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Do you guys know crude? Please someone tell me because
I'm over it.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
But I'm gonna do it. So doesn't pee in this crazy?
Speaker 4 (21:01):
Is it like with babies? If he gets us to
a certain weight, can he hold it? How old do
you think it's age appropriate? He's four months.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
I think I think it's an age appropriate thing.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
But he's new with us, he's been he he was
in the you know, he was in the rescue in
a little room the whole time.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
He's used to doing that.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
Samantha wrote in and said, I resented my dog so
much he hit one year and now I'm obsessed.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
I think we should talk about that because I think
that I saw that a lot on social media too,
and a lot of people really feeling guilty about.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
The year is a long time. Yeah, year is a
long time to feel that way. But maybe not.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
I mean, I don't know, like what your lifestyle is like,
but a lot of people were.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
Talking about the resentment.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
They sort of did have early days with their puppy
because they're not sleeping and you're picking up the and
you take them out and they pee and they come
in they pee right.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Again, and you're like, what the fuck? I just you know,
so yeah, and they get into everything and.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
They get into everything, and that's yes, Betty, my ten
month old lab has eaten thirty pairs of Undy's twenty
five socks and can open drawers. That's like the Velociraptor
in Jurassic Park when he opens the door for the
first time. It's so terrifying opening drawers and it's a lab.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:17):
Yeah, Katherine In said, nothing like chasing your puppy trying
to get batteries out of his mouth.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
See that is that would have made me cry. Last week,
Lauren It said, I cried every day the first month
I got my dog.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
That was three years ago, and she's the best dog ever. Now.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
I just don't think you realize until you're in it,
and I think that you just just be prepared to.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
Cry all the time. Yeah, I know that it's normal.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
It helped me to see all these tiktoks showing me
like this is normal because I'd never experienced it before.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
Do you take him out and try and run him
so that he gets all the energy at I feel
like that was something I did.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
I mean, luckily he plays so much with Casper that
there's a natural like running and chasing and all that kind.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Of stuff happening.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
But I feel really bad because we are very fortunate
enough to have a backyard, and that's not everyone's situation.
And the truth is they also can't go out for
walks right like they're too little, they don't have enough
their shots, and so a lot of people are having
to they're at home, and they're also having to figure
out how to pause their work schedule or whatever they're
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doing with their kids.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
And now how many times a day is.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
That that's rough to wear them out, to get them
to go into their create where they're gonna cry.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
It's just it's a lot, Yes, it is.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Celene said, we rescued a dog and he had worms,
severe puking and watery diarrhea. Never forget, but now he's
a healthy, perfect boy.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
Amy rode in and said, I have a perfect four
year old lab named Hank, and he was a very
hyper puppy. It drove me nuts at time, but now
I miss his energy. Okay, barb rud In because of
my puppy. I just had to clean up a dead
bird in my living room while I was on a
zoom with a new client. Okay, this is something, because
you know we kind of live in the country that
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I turned into a squealing, ridiculous city girl.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
The dogs come back with things in their mouth. Really,
I haven't experienced this yet, and it's disgusting.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
What is the what is like an example of something
they brought in a house, like a bird.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
Yeah, a bird or a frog or youw there was
one time we were on a walk, hike, whatever, and
Cal brought something back and I did not investigate or
you know, take multiple looks at it, because I really
needed it to stop being just I just wanted to
erase it from my memory in general. But I think
it looked like whatever I would imagine a naked mule
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rat would look like. I don't know that I've ever
seen a naked mule rat, but it looked like what
would be called a naked mule rat.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
That's so disgusting.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
And it was disgusting. And then I started scream and
then I was like, drop it, drop it. And then
he thought that was funny, and then it was a nightmare.
It was a night It was a nightmare. It was
a total nightmare.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
I did, Okay, we'll read a couple more and then
we'll tell.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Uh we Oh my god, Megan said, my dog is
a lab. See labs have they came out with this thing?
And I now have a lab that labs have the
like the gene for obesity, so they truly do eat anything.
Meg said, my dog is a lab and he ate
some brownies, got drunk off of hand sanitizer, and so
much more. That would have made me cry last week.
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That would have sent me you guys.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yea yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
I don't even know how you would.
Speaker 4 (25:42):
I mean, like the the anger and like the frustration
that would happen after this one. Harmony wrote in and said,
nothing like coming home to your whole restoration hardware cloud
couch ripped two pee.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
The nice couch. I've seen that couch.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
Oh my god, if you had, did you mean, can
you get puppy and assurance for the things they destroy?
Speaker 3 (26:02):
I wish is I cover it with their homeowner? So
what to do about the puppy blues?
Speaker 2 (26:07):
First off, I think it's helpful to name it because
then I would know. It always helps to know what
you're experiencing. I would have been like, oh, this is
the puppy blues. So we looked into some ways to
help support yourself. If you know someone that has the
puppy blues, validate their feelings.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
Let them know It's normal to feel overwhelmed.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Anxious, sad, even regretful, and you can say things like
this doesn't mean that you're a bad owner.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
It's a big adjustment and you're not alone.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
I know what Matt said to you, exactly right, And
encourage rest and routine.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
Remind them that it gets easier because puppies do go
through rapid development and what's hard now will pass and
most people feel better in a month. And a month
fields like a really long time, but I have to
say two weeks in and I'm already feeling better.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
And then do watch red Flag.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
So if they seem really deeply depressed, anxious, or they're
you know, you know, suggest for them to get some
sort of help.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
Maybe you talk to a therapist or either.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
Need a break, they need a break or off, you know,
offer to find someone that can help them, you know,
do a training session with them or that behaviorist, and
reassure them that asking for help is a strength and
not a failure. I realized these are champagne problems, guys.
I realized that this is not, like, you know, a
life or death situation.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
But I was.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Shocked at my own feelings after being a dog owner
for over a decade, initially getting my Scooby Dooby Doo.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
Yeah, and it.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Was really helpful to see everyone on TikTok and learn
about the puppy blues. So I just and then I
started talking to everybody and they didn't know the term,
but they'd also experienced it like you. Just and so
here is our little episode on it. And if you
guys have any more stories about this, we would love.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
To hear from you.
Speaker 4 (27:57):
Yep, there's no shame in it. And always, always, always,
just no matter how frustrated you are, remember that you
keep that papy, that puppy safe. You keep that puppy safe. Yeah,
that's your job.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
That's your job. Here for you.
Speaker 4 (28:12):
If I lived in the same same place, I'd take
him for the night and just sleepover.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
And trust me, you be, you would have the puppy
blues by the morning.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
I love him, but I do you know what. I
love him so much though. I let's call it the
end of the episode.
Call It What It Is with Jessica Capshaw and Camille Luddington,
an iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Hello, Hello, Hello, Hello Call It crew, and welcome to
another episode of Call It What It Is. Let's just
dive in because it's just me and you today. There's
no guest today, and I think that we need to
tell a little bit of the backstory of how I
got here and how we got to this episode. Mm hmm, Okay,
here's what has happened. Everybody knows that I.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Have three rescue dogs. I have Gus and Sully.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
They're my dogs I've had for like thirteen years with Matt,
that's how old they are. And then I have Caspar,
who's my newest rescue. He's two years old. He was
dumped in a box as a puppy. He's this cattle
dog retrievers lab mixed with all the love, all the energy,
all the things, and he's adorable. But what I realized
(01:06):
is when I brought him home is that my older
dogs have zero interest in playing with him.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Right.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
They were just they weren't like it isn't like the
dogs were like fighting when we got him. It's just
that they were bored. They didn't want anything to do
with him. They want they want to their pillows, they
want to sit on the couch, they want to wait
for a little bit piece of cheese if it comes
their way.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
And when they get to go.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
To the dog park, they're happy, and then they want
to come home and be a pillow again. They're cozy
and their old age, and to be honest, both of
them we rescued when one was one and one was four.
They've always sort of been like that. They were street
dogs before, and so they didn't they honestly didn't really
come with like puppy energy.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
So Casper bugs them all the time.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
He's on the couch with a ball in his mouth,
just waiting for anyone to play with him. And it
started get really sad. So conversation a year ago started
where I said to Matt listened, I think we should
get Casper a friend, a puppy buddy friend. Matt was like,
hell no, and I was like, just think on it.
(02:14):
I'll send you four dogs a day to look at,
which is what's happened for the past year. And we've
come really close to adopting a couple and Matt has
not been super into it.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
He's like, okay, you do this. You got to start.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Helping out more. You got to pick up the poops
because I don't do poop pooping.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Up in our yard. Okay, so you said you got
to pick up the poops. You got to feed them more.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Easter Sunday rolls around and we go to an Easter
lunch and then Matt has to go and do this
meeting actually on Easter. So he goes and does this, well,
it's an audition. He has to do this like audition thing,
put something on tape, and he's like, Okay, I'll be
back home after And so I, sneaky sneak knew that
there was a wag More Pets is a rescue in
(02:59):
Studio City in the Valley in Los Angeles. I knew
that they were open for the day on Easter for
any rescue. So I put the kids in the car
and I was like, don't tell daddy, We're gonna go
to the rescue and we're just gonna My plan was
just we never.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Start a sentence with don't tell daddy, don't sell daddy.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
It's not a full secret because none will not happened.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
In the know that I'd want to want to use.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
At the point where I was like, listen, if you
want to get one, get one, fine, you know.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
So I was like, we're gonna go. We're just my
plan was just to hold a couple puppies. I just thought, like,
we'll hold them. When them, we'll go. That's always the plan.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
So we went and they held. They sat and they
held a couple of Pomeranian puppies. And then I said,
do you have any other little puppies back there in
the pack, anyone that wants to come forward? Like it's
like a seance, right, and does anyone else want to
come forward? And they're like, we do. Actually we have
a pure bread English black lab. And they said he
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had a little sister who was a yellow lab and
she went in twenty four hours and him and his
brother sat forever, and he was the last one and
he came out Jess and his eyes locked with mine and.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
He yeah, take me home. Yeah, And I.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Said, also, I'll disclose I was on my period, so
I was feeling a little emotional when he was looking
at me.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
He caught me the wrong time of the life, like.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
Going grocery shopping when you're hungry, nothing to stand between
you and taking that dot com because you told your
children not to tell daddy no.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
And I couldn't call him because I didn't want to
interrupt that audition.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
That would have been really amp And you knew.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
He was yeah, because he was locked up. He wasn't
going to come out of nowhere and be like yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Put him in the car, drove home with him. I
get home, I'm so excited. The dogs all greet him.
There's no real issues. And then here's what happened. They're
running around the backyard and we have a nice we
have a large backyard. I would never adopt four dogs
if we didn't have some sort of back yard because
that'd be mean, right, So running out of the backyard
(05:03):
and suddenly I kind of almost like sobered up, and
it looked like, yes, this is what I sat sobered up,
and I was like, that's a lot of dogs.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
These were a lot of dogs in my backyard.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
And I thought, crap, Matt's going to come home and
I have to break the news to him, like there's
another doll in here and check your credit cards statement,
did not have a dogbed, did not have food, didn't
have anything for him. Uh Nott comes home and I
(05:39):
burst into tears.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Yeah you did.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
By the way, that was very well played. Sympathy for
you is what he's supposed to have right now. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
sympathy for you.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
You've created this.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
I did itoation, and I felt terrible because I.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Have never experienced this before. This is what the episode's
going to be about.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
I burst into tears and I said, I think I've
made a terrible mistake, like I have taken on this
dog and.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
For life, right.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
And I'm looking at all these dogs in our backyard
and it looks like that scene where Melissa McCarthy steals
all the puppies and bridesmaids and there does twenty of
them in.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
The back Like I felt like her probably just as unhinged,
quite frankly as unhinged.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
And he is very he's very steady in the storm.
And he was like, he's really cute, and you've made
the commitment and it's time to put on your big
girl pants now and you've been wanting this for a
long time. And he's we're obviously keeping him.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
I love Matt.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
He's so good in these situations, I know. So that's
how Scooby came into our life. Scooby, Scooby. That's how
Scooby came in. Here's what I did not anticipate. My
first two dogs were street dogs. They came potty trained, right,
they came older, They were not in a crate. They
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just kind of sat around. They were fine.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
When I got Casper, we did get him as a puppy,
but I had to work immediately after. Matt had to work,
and so we did the very swing keep thing of
sending the puppy all yeah to a little doggie boarding
school where they go for three weeks and they come
back and they're fully trained.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Yeah yeah, yeah, And I think you did that with
your puppy. It's expensive too, It is so much money.
Did you do that because you have Aguscus and you're
a cal Yeah yeah, yeah yeah did you did you
do the puppy boarding school?
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Okay, So I'm like you, I love dogs.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
I've always loved dogs.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
I've always had dogs, and when I got out of college,
I was like, of course I can handle having a dog.
I could not, absolutely not at all. And I think
the main reason why I couldn't was because I didn't
take the time to train the dog.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
So I learned my lesson the hard way. Did you
have to rehome the puppy. I did have to reh
I'm that puppy. There's no shame in that, no, I know.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
And by the way, she we found her an incredible
home and she lived out her days in total luxury
and there's no way to meet and I could go
visit her, and she finally did mellow out. She was
a lab and she had a ton of energy, and
I could not meet her where she was at.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
You were a college kid.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
I was just out of college and I was I mean,
I was hustling. I was trying to get jobs.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
I was like, I got a work scheduled, then I
got a job, and then I was working crazy hours. Yeah, no, no,
that's yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
You know.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
It was just a lot. And she was really not
very well behaved.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
If you have the wherewithal and if you can afford
to have them go off for training, I am all
for it. Yeah, And we did do that with Gus
also because we did not have a dog, and we
did have four children. So when I put my four
children in the backyard, to me, that looked like a
lot of children, yes, yeah, yeah, and adding in a.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Dog, I was like, oh, very buckle up. And Josie
was little. Yeah, she was little, she was like one
or two.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
But then then we had we we he came great train.
Although then he shows up and he actually wasn't. And
I did go to a dog trainer and get all
of her tips and tricks.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
I love her so much. She's in Los Angeles. You
should totally go use her. And uh. The first night
in the crate, he cried and cried and cried and.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
Cried, and I felt so terrible, and he didn't want
to go in this crate they that they told me,
you know, was his den and so hot.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
He was so happy. No, he wasn't.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
He wanted to get the fuck out of that crate. Yeah,
and scream and cry. He was like no. And I
had four kids, and I was like, this is this
puppy cannot take my ship down.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
And so.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
In that first week I definitely did like put him
in a half nelson.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
At one point. It's a half nelson like right under
like right underneath my arm.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
Like I had to snug a fly him a little bit,
like you know in the dog world, you got to
dominate and didn't hurt him. I'm very gentle, but I
was like, you know, you got to be the alpha
and you got to put them on their back and like,
you know, be the alpha, and so I aufed him
and then honestly, it was just that one little tussle
that we had and he's been he's been a dream
(10:05):
dog ever since.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
He knew. In that moment, he's like, don't mess with
mom m macappi.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
No, what about cal Because then you got a second puppy.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that is the one that I had
the puppy blues with a bit.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
We really wanted him. We had just moved.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
We were in a rental that all felt like a
really good idea to have a puppy, but all of
a sudden we were in seasons and he he has
a disposition that's a little more like I always think
dogs have voices and gus, you know, the aforementioned you know,
little teeny bit of a bumpy beginning, but then total
acquiescence and and he kind of like walks around the
(10:56):
house and I think that his his voice, his dog voice,
and pets would be.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Like, well hello there, oh right, shall we sit?
Speaker 4 (11:03):
I think I'm going to get outside and get a
lie in the sun.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Today, Like that's how he talks. And then all of
a sudden Cal showed up and Cal's like, oh my, oh, like,
what are we gonna do? Can I eat that?
Speaker 4 (11:14):
Oh that's okay, I'll eat moons, which, by the way,
it really grosses me out that that situation. I mean,
if you're gonna eat your poop in front of me,
how am I meant to ask you to come into
my home?
Speaker 3 (11:26):
I don't know understand.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
Isn't that what boundaries are for? Are we supposed to
exercise them? Aren't we supposed to say no? So I felt, yes,
I had peppy blues.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
And also all the kids were kind of looking at me.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
Like, I mean, he's really cute, but he does seem
a little naughty, and yeah, I had no backup for
any reasons to keep him, but I was not getting
he was not going anywhere. So I was like, yeah,
that was the blues part. Yes, my general feelings of dissatisfaction.
I just like to really things that you get.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
So the first night he cries all night in his crate,
and you know, I'm reading the tiktoks, It's like they
really need to be in their crate. They love their creates.
It's going to be their safe space. He acted like
that crate was like Alcatraz.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Right on fire or on fire building yep.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
And he even figured out how to unlock it, like
he was fucking Houdini. And he came out and he
was so excited, and the first night he ended up
on the couch, he was just chilling. When I came
down the morning, I was like.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
How did you get out?
Speaker 2 (12:32):
And there was a poop and a pee out. I'm like,
what the point is? You've been using the term puppy blues.
I have never heard of this term. And by day
three of me crying over the stress of this new dog,
I wonder so many things. I'm gonna be honest, I
thought like I can't handle this, and this is really
(12:54):
embarrassing because I have a bunch of other dogs and
I have kids, and I felt like our dynamic and
our home was so cop aesthetic and we had our
thing down, and now I've introduced this other being for
what reason? And it's all fucked up. And my kids
usually had been caught. My son had trouble sleeping for
(13:15):
years and he was coming in every night to wake
me up. And he just the past month like stopped
doing that, and now I'm like, hey, let me figure
out a way to not get any more sleep again.
And then I just bought new rugs and shit here,
and of course he's like, that's a new rug. Great,
that's a fucking potty that I love now right.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
Yeah, by day three.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
I was crying to Matt and I was like, I
think I'm depressed. I think I'm depressed, and he was like,
you know, did his Matt thing of like, yeah, we
got this, don't worry, it's gonna.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
Be out of that.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
So I got on TikTok as you do, and I
looked up people's experience with puppies and there was like
postpartum puppy came up, I'm puppy blues.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Had you heard of these terms before? We talked about
them in the No, no, no, no, definitely, so I
had not either.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
So these terms came up and hundreds, probably thousands of
videos came up of people saying I'm so depressed after
getting this beautiful puppy that I've been dying to get.
I'm anxious, I'm not sleeping, I'm having trouble, I'm working
from home.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
This is a nightmare.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
I don't even love the dog, and I thought I
loved the dog, and then in the comments, it's like
two years later now they love the dog.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
So there truly is this period of.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Time that I was not aware of that I wish
I had been aware of, called the puppy blues, and
I'd never had it before, and so.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
We thought we'd do a whole episode on it.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
Yeah, and just call it what it's also like, you
do you deal with real feelings because it's a real, living,
breathing animal that you are and you're in charge of
taking care of. I felt very guilty when I was
having a hard time.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
I felt so guilty. I felt absolutely terrible.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
Because Matt giving you any of the like when it's hard,
is he like you kind of do this to yourself.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
I didn't think it through, and I have to say though,
Casper and him became fast best friends, and if they
had enough, if that had enough happened, I would have
really regretted it because I would have thought, like, this
is the reason I'm really doing it.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
Yeah, by the way, guess couldn't have cared less about
cal We thought that that was going to be the case,
like they would be playmates, but Nope, they both just
care about us.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
Yeah, my other dogs don't care, but they really are
best friends. And what I didn't know is that the
English lab compared to it. He's a pure bred English Lab.
They're actually much calmer than American labs, and so he's
pretty chill. He's actually really chill, floppy, real cute puppy.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
Thank god.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Okay, so here are some facts that I found kind
of interesting. A significant number of dog owners, estimated around
seventy percent, experience what's known as the puppy blues after
bringing home a new puppy. These feelings can manifest as anxiety, depression,
or both, often due to the significant changes in lifestyle
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and responsibility that come with puppy care. And it said
the East Coast Dog Training found in a twenty twenty
three survey, seventy percent of puppy owners reported sentiments of
anxiety and depression or depression, which is bond caruse. The
Hoffington Post is on a whole article piece on this,
(16:33):
and the title of it is, Yes, the puppy blues
are a real thing. Here's how to cope. We'll get
into that, but we also threw it out to you
guys and we asked if you guys had experienced any
of this, and so we should read some of the
submissions we got because the crew gets it.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
Yes they do, Yes, they do. The union they understood.
Speaker 4 (16:59):
So let's start with Nicole and Nicle wrote in and said,
it's literally like postpartum depression. Hard to tell if it's
the change that's a struggle, or if it was just
the wrong decision.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
Yeah, I think that's where it starts.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Yeah, and I think I think that you have your
home and you're set in your ways, and then you
imagine this cute little thing coming in and just being
part of it, like going with the flow, and you're like.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
No, you're the main event.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Now, Yeah, you're the main event, and you're sort of
dictating right like hearing him, I'm up.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
I'm still up right now.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
I'm like two weeks into it, I'm still up through
the night to take him out. Megan wrote, my dog
was a nightmare from the time we brought her home
until four months, constant biting, crying, chewed her way out
of a wooden crate we brought her.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Oh yeah, he.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Chewed his Yeah, he chewed his way out of a
wooden gate. Guys, he was able to get himself out
of once her puppy teeth fell out, she was a
different dog. She's been mine, my husband's, and my kid's
best friends for eight and a half years.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Now.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
Okay, that's a good that's a good story. By the way,
I love Cal and I and we got through it.
He's still he's still definitely the naughtier of the dogs.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
But he's so sweet. He is so sweet. Yeah, I
love him. And he's like a heartier size.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
Guess it's a little more like, you know, a little puff,
but a smaller body. But Cal's got like some girth.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
I like it.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Yeah, And it's funny because even now I'm two weeks in,
I haven't.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Cried in you know, a week, and so it's gotten
a little better.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
And I've made it a where I said to Matt,
next time I make a b decision, I need to
not be in my period because that was probably not
the right time for me to like be really resilient
and making a decision too.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
But I love this damn dog. I love this dog.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
And it's still tough and we're still dealing with all
the things because it's he's fresh, right, He's.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
Just out of the oven. He's just been Are you
still great training? Yes? We are, but I have to
tell you, I I here's why I don't like.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
I went on TikTok and everyone's like, okay, So here's
what you're gonna do. You're gonna make the crate like
his little space that he just loves.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
You're gonna throw a treat in and throw a treat out.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Okay, great, Like that's a cute exercise for ten minutes, Right,
what fucking happens at ten pm?
Speaker 3 (19:24):
When you put that dog in?
Speaker 2 (19:25):
You can't sit by that crate and go okay minutes
and you treats every thirty minutes for the next fucking
twelve a.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
Here's what happens.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
They cry and they're crying loud, and they're barking, and
it's so stressful. And if I had an apartment, I
would seriously not know what to do because I would
feel the anxiety of neighbors.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Next to me.
Speaker 4 (19:47):
Yeah yeah, yeah, Oh has he pooped in his crate yet?
They always say that they don't do that, But guess what, minded.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
He has not yet. You better hope he doesn't.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
But like knock on wood, Alexandra, create training is so
worth it.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
But it's a lot of sleepless nights.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
I had not so, like I said, I had never
done the crate training before.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
I started to dread the evenings, like really dread.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Them, yeah, and get like kind of almost emotional at night,
being like.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Okay, it's my turn. I'm being real.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
I know it sounds crazy, and I said, Champaign problems, right,
I have a puppy, like, oh my god, boo oo me,
but I felt yeah, I did find it very isolating
and depressing. And I have three other dogs, and I
had never experienced this before. So I'm glad we're talking
about it.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
So Blair wrote it and said we just got another
dog because our older dog was lonely, and now they
are inseparable.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
We'll see good for you. Maybe they do make friends
every once in a while, they do, Chloe sid The
waking up at three am to take them out is brutal.
I have I have a two thirty timer. That's when
I tick him out. When does that stop? How long
did you do that? I don't know.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Do you guys know crude? Please someone tell me because
I'm over it.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
But I'm gonna do it. So doesn't pee in this crazy?
Speaker 4 (21:01):
Is it like with babies? If he gets us to
a certain weight, can he hold it? How old do
you think it's age appropriate? He's four months.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
I think I think it's an age appropriate thing.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
But he's new with us, he's been he he was
in the you know, he was in the rescue in
a little room the whole time.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
He's used to doing that.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
Samantha wrote in and said, I resented my dog so
much he hit one year and now I'm obsessed.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
I think we should talk about that because I think
that I saw that a lot on social media too,
and a lot of people really feeling guilty about.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
The year is a long time. Yeah, year is a
long time to feel that way. But maybe not.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
I mean, I don't know, like what your lifestyle is like,
but a lot of people were.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
Talking about the resentment.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
They sort of did have early days with their puppy
because they're not sleeping and you're picking up the and
you take them out and they pee and they come
in they pee right.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Again, and you're like, what the fuck? I just you know,
so yeah, and they get into everything and.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
They get into everything, and that's yes, Betty, my ten
month old lab has eaten thirty pairs of Undy's twenty
five socks and can open drawers. That's like the Velociraptor
in Jurassic Park when he opens the door for the
first time. It's so terrifying opening drawers and it's a lab.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:17):
Yeah, Katherine In said, nothing like chasing your puppy trying
to get batteries out of his mouth.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
See that is that would have made me cry. Last week,
Lauren It said, I cried every day the first month
I got my dog.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
That was three years ago, and she's the best dog ever. Now.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
I just don't think you realize until you're in it,
and I think that you just just be prepared to.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
Cry all the time. Yeah, I know that it's normal.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
It helped me to see all these tiktoks showing me
like this is normal because I'd never experienced it before.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
Do you take him out and try and run him
so that he gets all the energy at I feel
like that was something I did.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
I mean, luckily he plays so much with Casper that
there's a natural like running and chasing and all that kind.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Of stuff happening.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
But I feel really bad because we are very fortunate
enough to have a backyard, and that's not everyone's situation.
And the truth is they also can't go out for
walks right like they're too little, they don't have enough
their shots, and so a lot of people are having
to they're at home, and they're also having to figure
out how to pause their work schedule or whatever they're
(23:23):
doing with their kids.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
And now how many times a day is.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
That that's rough to wear them out, to get them
to go into their create where they're gonna cry.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
It's just it's a lot, Yes, it is.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Celene said, we rescued a dog and he had worms,
severe puking and watery diarrhea. Never forget, but now he's
a healthy, perfect boy.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
Amy rode in and said, I have a perfect four
year old lab named Hank, and he was a very
hyper puppy. It drove me nuts at time, but now
I miss his energy. Okay, barb rud In because of
my puppy. I just had to clean up a dead
bird in my living room while I was on a
zoom with a new client. Okay, this is something, because
you know we kind of live in the country that
(24:07):
I turned into a squealing, ridiculous city girl.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
The dogs come back with things in their mouth. Really,
I haven't experienced this yet, and it's disgusting.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
What is the what is like an example of something
they brought in a house, like a bird.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
Yeah, a bird or a frog or youw there was
one time we were on a walk, hike, whatever, and
Cal brought something back and I did not investigate or
you know, take multiple looks at it, because I really
needed it to stop being just I just wanted to
erase it from my memory in general. But I think
it looked like whatever I would imagine a naked mule
(24:48):
rat would look like. I don't know that I've ever
seen a naked mule rat, but it looked like what
would be called a naked mule rat.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
That's so disgusting.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
And it was disgusting. And then I started scream and
then I was like, drop it, drop it. And then
he thought that was funny, and then it was a nightmare.
It was a night It was a nightmare. It was
a total nightmare.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
I did, Okay, we'll read a couple more and then
we'll tell.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Uh we Oh my god, Megan said, my dog is
a lab. See labs have they came out with this thing?
And I now have a lab that labs have the
like the gene for obesity, so they truly do eat anything.
Meg said, my dog is a lab and he ate
some brownies, got drunk off of hand sanitizer, and so
much more. That would have made me cry last week.
(25:36):
That would have sent me you guys.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yea yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
I don't even know how you would.
Speaker 4 (25:42):
I mean, like the the anger and like the frustration
that would happen after this one. Harmony wrote in and said,
nothing like coming home to your whole restoration hardware cloud
couch ripped two pee.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
The nice couch. I've seen that couch.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
Oh my god, if you had, did you mean, can
you get puppy and assurance for the things they destroy?
Speaker 3 (26:02):
I wish is I cover it with their homeowner? So
what to do about the puppy blues?
Speaker 2 (26:07):
First off, I think it's helpful to name it because
then I would know. It always helps to know what
you're experiencing. I would have been like, oh, this is
the puppy blues. So we looked into some ways to
help support yourself. If you know someone that has the
puppy blues, validate their feelings.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
Let them know It's normal to feel overwhelmed.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Anxious, sad, even regretful, and you can say things like
this doesn't mean that you're a bad owner.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
It's a big adjustment and you're not alone.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
I know what Matt said to you, exactly right, And
encourage rest and routine.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
Remind them that it gets easier because puppies do go
through rapid development and what's hard now will pass and
most people feel better in a month. And a month
fields like a really long time, but I have to
say two weeks in and I'm already feeling better.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
And then do watch red Flag.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
So if they seem really deeply depressed, anxious, or they're
you know, you know, suggest for them to get some
sort of help.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
Maybe you talk to a therapist or either.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
Need a break, they need a break or off, you know,
offer to find someone that can help them, you know,
do a training session with them or that behaviorist, and
reassure them that asking for help is a strength and
not a failure. I realized these are champagne problems, guys.
I realized that this is not, like, you know, a
life or death situation.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
But I was.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Shocked at my own feelings after being a dog owner
for over a decade, initially getting my Scooby Dooby Doo.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
Yeah, and it.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Was really helpful to see everyone on TikTok and learn
about the puppy blues. So I just and then I
started talking to everybody and they didn't know the term,
but they'd also experienced it like you. Just and so
here is our little episode on it. And if you
guys have any more stories about this, we would love.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
To hear from you.
Speaker 4 (27:57):
Yep, there's no shame in it. And always, always, always,
just no matter how frustrated you are, remember that you
keep that papy, that puppy safe. You keep that puppy safe. Yeah,
that's your job.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
That's your job. Here for you.
Speaker 4 (28:12):
If I lived in the same same place, I'd take
him for the night and just sleepover.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
And trust me, you be, you would have the puppy
blues by the morning.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
I love him, but I do you know what. I
love him so much though. I let's call it the
end of the episode.
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