August 11, 2025 • 17 mins
Camilla and her husband guide us through parenting pitfalls. Have they turned towards the “F*** Around and Find Out” approach to discipline? Or do they err on the side of gentle parenting?
Plus, a confession from Matt about being taught a lesson through tough love!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Call It what It Is with Jessica Kepshaw and Camille Luddington,
an iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Hello, Hello, Hello, call It crew, and welcome to another
episode of Short and Sweet.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
And I know what you're thinking, Short and Sweet, it's
not the right day. We usually have these air midweek,
but we're switching things up and the reason is is
because I have a very special doctor who specializes in
hashimotos and she is going to be recording with me
midweek and so we will air that midweek. So today
(00:47):
you guys are getting treated to a little Short and
Sweet with a guest Guess things bad last night?
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Kime Onie beg me, oh, plea to well join the
pod today? Oh please give me. I know few things
around and I'm here to hell you are here to help.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Well, we thought we would bring that in for a
very special episode because Ashley, you're the one that sent
me this article.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Yes, okay, And it was an article about the new style.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Of parenting, which is the total opposite of what gentle
parenting is.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
Yeah, And at first I thought it was a joke. Yeah,
And then I started down the rabbit hole and realized
it's an entire movement of sorts.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Yeah, what did do you want to tell announced to
the crew what the new parenting movement is?
Speaker 4 (01:37):
Oh, fafo around and find out right, crowd, I.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Know you're like, well, so most we were less it's
a friend of find out parenting exactly.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
So this sin of parenting style. If the article that
we read was about.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
A woman and I believe that her son was splashing
her with a hoe.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
He was being rather obnoxious.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
I believe he's not like he's being abnocious. He was
flashing her win our hose.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
And then instead of being like Henny for the eighth time,
let us not do how are your feelings.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
About that time?
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (02:14):
She just shoved him into a pond.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Yeah, and it like really shocked him a little frown
to find out.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
But he learned the lesson.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
At debate of whether this is maybe a new.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Approach and it could be a positive approach.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
I think that's why we're here.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
That's why we're here.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Do you think that we do around to finale parenting
or gentle parenting.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
I think we're closer on the jasule side, to be.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Honest, I think we're I think we're ninety five percent
gentle parenting I'm a sessitive parents, so if I get
too groundee then sensitive parrot.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
I just feel bad if if I'm too oh, you
have a lot of guilt, like.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
So much parental so it's hard for me to be
like hardcore around and find out I.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Think, yeah, your around and find out is and then
I find out how guilty I feel after.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Okay, all right, So we have been asked some questions
by the crew on this subject, and we're gonna we're
gonna dive into our parenting style and we're gonna reveal
some how it goes down in our household.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
I think I'm gonna learn a few things, maybe.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Maybe from me. Yeah, yeah, you'll play Okay, okay, what
were recent moments with your kids when you thought, you
know what, you're gonna have to find out the hard way? Well,
Brown and find out way? What's the because I know
moment that is a little bit similar to what the
leading the article. Yeah, Hayden was splashing Lucas are a
(03:53):
little one and it was really bugging him and she
wouldn't stop.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
And so I just based, at least do no mead
her with a splash.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
It was a little bit of a stunami because I
had sent to her, by the way, let me try
me says, I had.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Sent to her stop splashing your brother.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
She had not, she probably said completely out.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Four twenty times.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
I decided I wasn't maybe like, and how does the
splashing make your rather feel? Because she knew it was
annoying him, and so I did a little splash tsunami
and then But the funny thing is, because we are
quote unquote gentle parents, she was. She was just shocked.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
It was total Yeah, she was speechless.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
But here's what I don't think it worth. In that moment.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Instead of her turning around and being like, oh my god,
now I know how the splash feels, she was like,
it became about your are really bad mom.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
You're a bad mom. Shame on you.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
I can't believe you splashed.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
I think that's the problem is that if you had
it in many cases and scenarios that will work, there
are many scenarios and kids that brown to find out
will not work because there are so many more yes,
elemency feelings and it's more nuanced.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Yeah, maybe it's a long part of grown to find
out is ground to find out if your kid will
turn it around on you.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
And then you're around and found.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Out on If everyone keeps run, we all basic gly.
That is what I'm learning.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Yeah, that didn't really work. Like I was hoping that
she'd be shock her into not doing it. Instance, she
was more like, I can't believe slash her an innocent
child zan gentlean charanty.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Takes more work. It would have been really easy to
slash her, like right off the bat. Yeah, okay.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
The guard reaction to hearing about the mom who threw
her kid in the pond after he's grayed her. I
do think that I think he was old enough. It
sounds like he was like twelve. Yeah, I think that
he'd gone it. Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (05:59):
See got the last Yeah, so I.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Was like the word age on the age thing. I
think it does matter because.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
My parents were very fair and gentle and loving parents.
I do remember one time. It wasn't around and find
out a moment. It was more of a your teen No,
this was.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
That's some of this.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
This is a great example because I think our Arginerians
are on the generation of random.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Planet, and this is you have a childhood.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Example of mass around and filed out the oneing and
fellow story.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
I was nineteen or my nineteenth birthday, and my parents
had a whole day and morning planned the next day
after my birthday that we were going to spend the
day together.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
So the night of my birthday, I when I was some.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
Friends and I was turning nineteen, and we went a
little overboard with the alcohol.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
And I got by the way that's illegal.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
That is illegal thought, and I got to face that night,
and I came home that morning embarrassingly hello, hungover, still drunk,
and my parents were onto it, and they made a
point to cook breakfast that smelled amazing but awful at
the same.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Time with the cooking bread.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
They were cooking a breakfast knowing that it would.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Make you want to cheep along.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
Yeah, and then they my dad went ahead and took
me on the golf trip they were going to go
on that morning, you know, to take me golfing.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
God.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
No, we got halfway down the road and then I
puoked outside the window, and then he turned back and
came home. And that was Yeah, you had plans today
and you've brown.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Okay, most ridiculous consequence you've handed out in a moment
of all out frustration, most ridiculous consequence.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
We talked about this morning a little bit like the
stuff that comes out of our mouths as parent.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
When I hear some of the representands that I'm saying
my kids, I'm like, what are you saying?
Speaker 3 (07:58):
What?
Speaker 2 (07:58):
It's embarrassed this?
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Yeah, like I would say, it's like this, Like ridiculous
consequence in our house goes on like.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
This, Okay, gives what. You can't be a robot for
the rest of them.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Do it.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
We're not gonna make robots tomorrow if you do it together.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Yeah, Like it's not it's just we sound yeah, sounds ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Has parenting the kids gin summer been harder with the
lack of structure, any stories. First of all, I don't
know if you guys know this, but Mad and I
have had our family lives far away.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Matt and I have not.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Had We don't have any childcare, and we had another
kids go to a pre school in our school, but
we have not had any extra childcare for we're almost
a year and a half. The big argument of the
summer right now is naming toys.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
Man, it's when it's gone, But man, it's annoying.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Bus This is what we're having to deal with during
the summer.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
In the summer, when our kids get a toy, we
always actually, you know what in this long and I
just realize it's on us, dude.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
We keep asking, what's.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
The tools making I'm trying to creativity in that moment,
and so the show.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
We're poking the bear exactly.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Okay. So what we do is we always go, what's
the name and then Hayden will be like, the names
of like an elephant toy?
Speaker 2 (09:43):
They both have each.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
One elephant t and then Lucas will go elephant and
don't know that the facts that they both have.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
The same name and it's a name like Alan t Yeah, seriously,
he'll arguing over it and Bronte or giant.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
By the way, we.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Throw out to diffuse the fight. We throw out really
good things. We're like, what Dailey, Cutie, flussy, Bob, they
would probably.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Love it, Bob, I think Bob.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
Yeah, whatever, whoever thinks of the first name that's the
one that's the not.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Causes a fight all the time naming toys. This summer
has been explosive.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Has there been a time when you went to dinner
with another family and kids are left thinking.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
I actually don't think of.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
A time that I've been to dinner with someone else's
kids and thought what just happened?
Speaker 1 (10:38):
I can definitely think of times even to dinner with
our kids and think what just happens?
Speaker 4 (10:44):
Not often, but I do feel like sometimes button or
a switch goes off and they just both start mouth.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
What is the very first thing when we walk into
a restaurant that can start a fight? Okay, we see
the table, let's say it.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
I'm gonna give you that.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
I'm gonna set this up.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
It's a round table. Yep, four chairs, knowing your children,
what is the fight that the happened?
Speaker 3 (11:09):
One of those chairs is the best? Yes, chair at
that table.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
One of those chairs and they all look the same.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
Is the chair, yeah? And whoever decides that first, yes,
the other one is?
Speaker 1 (11:24):
It was the chair and then that and then the
chair fight happens, and then and then we and then
it goes downhill from ye.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
Before you even order it. It's like you're putting out
fires before you order. And then you get ten minutes,
so yeah, sailing. And then if the food's not given
there fast enough, it.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Starts to also this we love this. It's like a
butter pasta for a kid is like sure thing and
it's like the butter possib will come and they'll be like,
that's not The shape of the pasta is light.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
Yeah, that is actually.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
I think that's a good example of a minimal around
to find out moment that.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
I think you can take the rings and yeah, but
we do a little bit.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
We're like, eat your food. Okay. Is one of you
the good cop and the other the bad cock?
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Oh wow, the silence. I think we both know the
answer a little bit to this. Am I the fun Harrod?
Speaker 3 (12:30):
You are the more funny one, but you're also the
one that what the reliability a little bit.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
They know they know they're gonna gangs. You know what
the wants.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Okay, wait, hang on, yes, this is true. We only
just discovered this. Explain why we were shopping.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
Yes, and especially at this age, they just want something
from everywhere.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Yeah it is.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
And I have no problem saying not today, guys, or
maybe later. But they won't come to me. They'll go
to mom first because they'll know it. They know they'll
get more of a chance. I have a little more
of a moh, a little more of a pushover. And
then you found that out the other day when Hayden.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
She's with me, but she was like, I just want
to go talk to Monk for a second.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
I just want to be follow me into the store.
And then you're like, what's that.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
I was like, come on, just walk around with me,
and I was taken personally, but then I was like, wait, yeah,
so I said, why do you want to go see mom?
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (13:35):
She gave me a smirk and she knew exactly what
I was asking. Yeah, yeah, I am. I agree.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
I'm more of a pushover. Okay, what is Oh god,
I know the answer to this for myself.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
What's apparenting hill that you're willing to die on that
you think I totally disagree with. Can I be honest
because I know the answer for you? Okay, Okay, I
know that you disagree on this, but I think that
once you promise something, you have to follow through it.
(14:10):
And you are like, no can change, which I understand.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
Yeah, there are details in this, but I agree we do.
We kind of bt heads on this on occasion. There
are details. I think that a change is okay, but
I understand the promising them something and then taking it away.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
It's hard.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
But I feel sometimes it's warranted and that is a
fuck around and find out parenting.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
It is.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
So I'm a little more progressive if you think about it.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
If the funk around is the progression or is it
the regression? What's one thing that you could ask me?
Speaker 3 (14:49):
One thing I could ask you one thing that you
is a hill that you're willing.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
To know him?
Speaker 3 (14:55):
Oh? Man?
Speaker 4 (14:56):
I feel like oftentimes the same thing, Like I think,
if they're if if they're pushing the boundaries a little
bit launched in that same situation, I think it's important
to teach them that they've lost that privilege. Yes, but
I stand back, and because I understand both sides too,
back too.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
But these are are we're on a little bit of
a different hill and great privileges and you're fat, you're.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Poking to provoke a privilege. Okay.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Are there times you're too soft in your kids because
you're really just too exhausted? Yeah? I did.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
That's where I think.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
No, I think it's how about whatever you want?
Speaker 1 (15:33):
How often do you need a break from your parenting duties?
Speaker 2 (15:37):
And what do you do a break? That's when was
the last time that you took a break?
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Dud.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
You actually have been really good. We've been Oh yeah,
we did it this weekend. You brought up that was
important to give up each of us that so we've
been trying to.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Be more comp Well we did, we you we tapped
in and tapped out.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Yeah, so one of us leaves from hour to go
work out.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
That's it really.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Whenever we want.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
If I want to sit in the cart and have
a cheeseburger, go get in and out, and yeah, for sure,
that's self care. And then the other one and you
know what, then we I agree that we're a little
more we have a little more patience.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
And especially during the summer and on the weekends, just
giving that hour to you compress is very important.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Okay, so let's wrap it up.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
But before we do, are you going to meet employment
in our family more.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Around and find out?
Speaker 3 (16:38):
I think so, I don't know. I feel like we're
doing a decent job. Yeah, some days are harder than that.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
So when what's it called the SASO is necessary? All right, guys,
thank you Matt for joining us spilling the beans on
our parenting style, and we enjoyed answering all these questions.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
And until next time, can you go.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Make me a cup of coffee.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
You got it, Boss, thank you.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Let's call it the end of the episode.
Call It what It Is with Jessica Kepshaw and Camille Luddington,
an iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Hello, Hello, Hello, call It crew, and welcome to another
episode of Short and Sweet.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
And I know what you're thinking, Short and Sweet, it's
not the right day. We usually have these air midweek,
but we're switching things up and the reason is is
because I have a very special doctor who specializes in
hashimotos and she is going to be recording with me
midweek and so we will air that midweek. So today
(00:47):
you guys are getting treated to a little Short and
Sweet with a guest Guess things bad last night?
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Kime Onie beg me, oh, plea to well join the
pod today? Oh please give me. I know few things
around and I'm here to hell you are here to help.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Well, we thought we would bring that in for a
very special episode because Ashley, you're the one that sent
me this article.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Yes, okay, And it was an article about the new style.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Of parenting, which is the total opposite of what gentle
parenting is.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
Yeah, And at first I thought it was a joke. Yeah,
And then I started down the rabbit hole and realized
it's an entire movement of sorts.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Yeah, what did do you want to tell announced to
the crew what the new parenting movement is?
Speaker 4 (01:37):
Oh, fafo around and find out right, crowd, I.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Know you're like, well, so most we were less it's
a friend of find out parenting exactly.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
So this sin of parenting style. If the article that
we read was about.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
A woman and I believe that her son was splashing
her with a hoe.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
He was being rather obnoxious.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
I believe he's not like he's being abnocious. He was
flashing her win our hose.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
And then instead of being like Henny for the eighth time,
let us not do how are your feelings.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
About that time?
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (02:14):
She just shoved him into a pond.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Yeah, and it like really shocked him a little frown
to find out.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
But he learned the lesson.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
At debate of whether this is maybe a new.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Approach and it could be a positive approach.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
I think that's why we're here.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
That's why we're here.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Do you think that we do around to finale parenting
or gentle parenting.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
I think we're closer on the jasule side, to be.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Honest, I think we're I think we're ninety five percent
gentle parenting I'm a sessitive parents, so if I get
too groundee then sensitive parrot.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
I just feel bad if if I'm too oh, you
have a lot of guilt, like.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
So much parental so it's hard for me to be
like hardcore around and find out I.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Think, yeah, your around and find out is and then
I find out how guilty I feel after.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Okay, all right, So we have been asked some questions
by the crew on this subject, and we're gonna we're
gonna dive into our parenting style and we're gonna reveal
some how it goes down in our household.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
I think I'm gonna learn a few things, maybe.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Maybe from me. Yeah, yeah, you'll play Okay, okay, what
were recent moments with your kids when you thought, you
know what, you're gonna have to find out the hard way? Well,
Brown and find out way? What's the because I know
moment that is a little bit similar to what the
leading the article. Yeah, Hayden was splashing Lucas are a
(03:53):
little one and it was really bugging him and she
wouldn't stop.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
And so I just based, at least do no mead
her with a splash.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
It was a little bit of a stunami because I
had sent to her, by the way, let me try
me says, I had.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Sent to her stop splashing your brother.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
She had not, she probably said completely out.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Four twenty times.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
I decided I wasn't maybe like, and how does the
splashing make your rather feel? Because she knew it was
annoying him, and so I did a little splash tsunami
and then But the funny thing is, because we are
quote unquote gentle parents, she was. She was just shocked.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
It was total Yeah, she was speechless.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
But here's what I don't think it worth. In that moment.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Instead of her turning around and being like, oh my god,
now I know how the splash feels, she was like,
it became about your are really bad mom.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
You're a bad mom. Shame on you.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
I can't believe you splashed.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
I think that's the problem is that if you had
it in many cases and scenarios that will work, there
are many scenarios and kids that brown to find out
will not work because there are so many more yes,
elemency feelings and it's more nuanced.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Yeah, maybe it's a long part of grown to find
out is ground to find out if your kid will
turn it around on you.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
And then you're around and found.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Out on If everyone keeps run, we all basic gly.
That is what I'm learning.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Yeah, that didn't really work. Like I was hoping that
she'd be shock her into not doing it. Instance, she
was more like, I can't believe slash her an innocent
child zan gentlean charanty.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Takes more work. It would have been really easy to
slash her, like right off the bat. Yeah, okay.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
The guard reaction to hearing about the mom who threw
her kid in the pond after he's grayed her. I
do think that I think he was old enough. It
sounds like he was like twelve. Yeah, I think that
he'd gone it. Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (05:59):
See got the last Yeah, so I.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Was like the word age on the age thing. I
think it does matter because.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
My parents were very fair and gentle and loving parents.
I do remember one time. It wasn't around and find
out a moment. It was more of a your teen No,
this was.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
That's some of this.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
This is a great example because I think our Arginerians
are on the generation of random.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Planet, and this is you have a childhood.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Example of mass around and filed out the oneing and
fellow story.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
I was nineteen or my nineteenth birthday, and my parents
had a whole day and morning planned the next day
after my birthday that we were going to spend the
day together.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
So the night of my birthday, I when I was some.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
Friends and I was turning nineteen, and we went a
little overboard with the alcohol.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
And I got by the way that's illegal.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
That is illegal thought, and I got to face that night,
and I came home that morning embarrassingly hello, hungover, still drunk,
and my parents were onto it, and they made a
point to cook breakfast that smelled amazing but awful at
the same.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Time with the cooking bread.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
They were cooking a breakfast knowing that it would.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Make you want to cheep along.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
Yeah, and then they my dad went ahead and took
me on the golf trip they were going to go
on that morning, you know, to take me golfing.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
God.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
No, we got halfway down the road and then I
puoked outside the window, and then he turned back and
came home. And that was Yeah, you had plans today
and you've brown.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Okay, most ridiculous consequence you've handed out in a moment
of all out frustration, most ridiculous consequence.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
We talked about this morning a little bit like the
stuff that comes out of our mouths as parent.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
When I hear some of the representands that I'm saying
my kids, I'm like, what are you saying?
Speaker 3 (07:58):
What?
Speaker 2 (07:58):
It's embarrassed this?
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Yeah, like I would say, it's like this, Like ridiculous
consequence in our house goes on like.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
This, Okay, gives what. You can't be a robot for
the rest of them.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Do it.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
We're not gonna make robots tomorrow if you do it together.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Yeah, Like it's not it's just we sound yeah, sounds ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Has parenting the kids gin summer been harder with the
lack of structure, any stories. First of all, I don't
know if you guys know this, but Mad and I
have had our family lives far away.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Matt and I have not.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Had We don't have any childcare, and we had another
kids go to a pre school in our school, but
we have not had any extra childcare for we're almost
a year and a half. The big argument of the
summer right now is naming toys.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
Man, it's when it's gone, But man, it's annoying.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Bus This is what we're having to deal with during
the summer.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
In the summer, when our kids get a toy, we
always actually, you know what in this long and I
just realize it's on us, dude.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
We keep asking, what's.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
The tools making I'm trying to creativity in that moment,
and so the show.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
We're poking the bear exactly.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Okay. So what we do is we always go, what's
the name and then Hayden will be like, the names
of like an elephant toy?
Speaker 2 (09:43):
They both have each.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
One elephant t and then Lucas will go elephant and
don't know that the facts that they both have.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
The same name and it's a name like Alan t Yeah, seriously,
he'll arguing over it and Bronte or giant.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
By the way, we.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Throw out to diffuse the fight. We throw out really
good things. We're like, what Dailey, Cutie, flussy, Bob, they
would probably.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Love it, Bob, I think Bob.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
Yeah, whatever, whoever thinks of the first name that's the
one that's the not.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Causes a fight all the time naming toys. This summer
has been explosive.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Has there been a time when you went to dinner
with another family and kids are left thinking.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
I actually don't think of.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
A time that I've been to dinner with someone else's
kids and thought what just happened?
Speaker 1 (10:38):
I can definitely think of times even to dinner with
our kids and think what just happens?
Speaker 4 (10:44):
Not often, but I do feel like sometimes button or
a switch goes off and they just both start mouth.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
What is the very first thing when we walk into
a restaurant that can start a fight? Okay, we see
the table, let's say it.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
I'm gonna give you that.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
I'm gonna set this up.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
It's a round table. Yep, four chairs, knowing your children,
what is the fight that the happened?
Speaker 3 (11:09):
One of those chairs is the best? Yes, chair at
that table.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
One of those chairs and they all look the same.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
Is the chair, yeah? And whoever decides that first, yes,
the other one is?
Speaker 1 (11:24):
It was the chair and then that and then the
chair fight happens, and then and then we and then
it goes downhill from ye.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
Before you even order it. It's like you're putting out
fires before you order. And then you get ten minutes,
so yeah, sailing. And then if the food's not given
there fast enough, it.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Starts to also this we love this. It's like a
butter pasta for a kid is like sure thing and
it's like the butter possib will come and they'll be like,
that's not The shape of the pasta is light.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
Yeah, that is actually.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
I think that's a good example of a minimal around
to find out moment that.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
I think you can take the rings and yeah, but
we do a little bit.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
We're like, eat your food. Okay. Is one of you
the good cop and the other the bad cock?
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Oh wow, the silence. I think we both know the
answer a little bit to this. Am I the fun Harrod?
Speaker 3 (12:30):
You are the more funny one, but you're also the
one that what the reliability a little bit.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
They know they know they're gonna gangs. You know what
the wants.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Okay, wait, hang on, yes, this is true. We only
just discovered this. Explain why we were shopping.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
Yes, and especially at this age, they just want something
from everywhere.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Yeah it is.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
And I have no problem saying not today, guys, or
maybe later. But they won't come to me. They'll go
to mom first because they'll know it. They know they'll
get more of a chance. I have a little more
of a moh, a little more of a pushover. And
then you found that out the other day when Hayden.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
She's with me, but she was like, I just want
to go talk to Monk for a second.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
I just want to be follow me into the store.
And then you're like, what's that.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
I was like, come on, just walk around with me,
and I was taken personally, but then I was like, wait, yeah,
so I said, why do you want to go see mom?
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (13:35):
She gave me a smirk and she knew exactly what
I was asking. Yeah, yeah, I am. I agree.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
I'm more of a pushover. Okay, what is Oh god,
I know the answer to this for myself.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
What's apparenting hill that you're willing to die on that
you think I totally disagree with. Can I be honest
because I know the answer for you? Okay, Okay, I
know that you disagree on this, but I think that
once you promise something, you have to follow through it.
(14:10):
And you are like, no can change, which I understand.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
Yeah, there are details in this, but I agree we do.
We kind of bt heads on this on occasion. There
are details. I think that a change is okay, but
I understand the promising them something and then taking it away.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
It's hard.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
But I feel sometimes it's warranted and that is a
fuck around and find out parenting.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
It is.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
So I'm a little more progressive if you think about it.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
If the funk around is the progression or is it
the regression? What's one thing that you could ask me?
Speaker 3 (14:49):
One thing I could ask you one thing that you
is a hill that you're willing.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
To know him?
Speaker 3 (14:55):
Oh? Man?
Speaker 4 (14:56):
I feel like oftentimes the same thing, Like I think,
if they're if if they're pushing the boundaries a little
bit launched in that same situation, I think it's important
to teach them that they've lost that privilege. Yes, but
I stand back, and because I understand both sides too,
back too.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
But these are are we're on a little bit of
a different hill and great privileges and you're fat, you're.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Poking to provoke a privilege. Okay.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Are there times you're too soft in your kids because
you're really just too exhausted? Yeah? I did.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
That's where I think.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
No, I think it's how about whatever you want?
Speaker 1 (15:33):
How often do you need a break from your parenting duties?
Speaker 2 (15:37):
And what do you do a break? That's when was
the last time that you took a break?
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Dud.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
You actually have been really good. We've been Oh yeah,
we did it this weekend. You brought up that was
important to give up each of us that so we've
been trying to.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Be more comp Well we did, we you we tapped
in and tapped out.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Yeah, so one of us leaves from hour to go
work out.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
That's it really.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Whenever we want.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
If I want to sit in the cart and have
a cheeseburger, go get in and out, and yeah, for sure,
that's self care. And then the other one and you
know what, then we I agree that we're a little
more we have a little more patience.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
And especially during the summer and on the weekends, just
giving that hour to you compress is very important.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Okay, so let's wrap it up.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
But before we do, are you going to meet employment
in our family more.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Around and find out?
Speaker 3 (16:38):
I think so, I don't know. I feel like we're
doing a decent job. Yeah, some days are harder than that.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
So when what's it called the SASO is necessary? All right, guys,
thank you Matt for joining us spilling the beans on
our parenting style, and we enjoyed answering all these questions.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
And until next time, can you go.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Make me a cup of coffee.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
You got it, Boss, thank you.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Let's call it the end of the episode.
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