September 24, 2025 • 26 mins
An ageless episode where Jessica and Camilla discuss the buzzworthy trends on TikTok.
Watch out socialites, they're calling out the good, the bad, and the blowouts!
Find out the dirt on the mini skirt, who likes to shimmer like a winner,
and who thinks it’s time to pack up the pearls.
Plus, how to spot a millennial in the wild, and why you won’t run into Jessica at a night spa!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Call It what It Is with Jessica Capshaw and Camille Luddington,
an iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Well, Hello, Hello, Hello, Hello call it crew, and welcome
to another episode of Short and Sweet. I think this is.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
A mashup of all the things that have been grabbing
our attention lately.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Yeah, they're trends, they're headlines that have been hooking us sometimes.
Is TikTok a text swad or something we didn't even
know what we cared about and then it was just everywhere?
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Suddenly then you find yourself going down the rabbit hole
and oh yeah, you know, you know a lot about a.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Little, are a little about a lot. It depends on
what kind of mood you're in.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Okay, let's get start on the first one. Let's do it,
which is women on TikTok are quote unquote rejecting their age.
So this is where women are dressing, acting, and living
younger than your age. And how you feel and not
how old you are.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
I mean, this is so subjective, but yes, go on,
this is very subjective.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
But for example, there are all these rules out there.
I have so many opinions on this. There are all
these rules out there, like, for example, you can't wear
a lot of sparkle after forty Did you know that? Apparently?
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Whose rule is that?
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Apparently it's aging gracefully where we're we don't, We're not
supposed to like stand out is what I've seen, and
I'm going to stand out. I'm gonna. I am so
irritated by this because like even the have you heard
about the glitter eye shadow rule?
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Who is making these rules and where we're not kidding?
Speaker 2 (01:47):
So after forty you're not supposed to be wearing glitter
eyeshadow because it's like a more youthful and b it
like it's supposedly like you know, get stuck in our
old baggy wrinkles and we're gonna to be disgusting out
in the world. I have started adding adding bronzy glitter
to my daily shadow, so you know what f everybody's
(02:12):
saying it. So I'm serious, that's a rule, Jess. It's
like literally out there.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Well, that's not a rule.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
I had never heard that rule, and I don't I
don't fall I mean, I don't have a ton of
sparkle in my makeup drawer, but I did. Actually I
remember when I was younger, speaking of sparkle, I used
to have a.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Spray, a spray spray the sparkle, Oh, the sparkle, spray
sparkle everywhere.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Okay, sparkle, I would sparkle. I don't. I put a
light mist on the face.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Okay, definitely a medium mist on the chest and the decoltage.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
You are not brightness out there?
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Are we talking about? Like? Are we talking about? Like
you're hitting up the club, so you're doing like that
sparkle a you're talking.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
About like it was a sparkle club girl.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Okay, you're not going to the grocery store with a
sparkle though.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Well, I mean the next day, if it was the
day off the club, I might still have some sparkle remnants.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
I mean I might not have showered yet. Who knows,
it didn't all come off.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
You're like Tinkerrell, and I think that this my way
in would be.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
I think, I mean, close your eyes and think about
what you thought when you were twelve years old and
whatever person in your life was forty at the time. Yeah,
I don't think that person probably resembles you now, like
there was still difference, isn't there that some crazy statistics
someone pull it up for us, But It's like the
(03:39):
Golden Girls who were meant to be living in like convalescing,
they were meant to be like out to pasture. They were,
and they were like in their forties.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Yes, how old were they?
Speaker 3 (03:51):
They were?
Speaker 2 (03:51):
They were literally like forty at least fifties. Yes, No,
it's so insane. I think my pro the problem I
have with this is even the idea that you're living, dressing, acting,
quote younger than your age. Oh they were. The youngest
was fifty three and they literally looked eighty.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Yes they were.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Seriously, yes.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
And now you look at.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
People and you look at the and I also think that,
you know, I think media is changing with it is,
you know, creating a little more flexibility within the our
culture's idea of beauty because there's you know, women on
the cover of things that are not only twenty I
mean there's beautiful, beautiful women or you know, absolutely being
(04:38):
seen for their beauty that they're not you know, tiny
little chickens.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Well, I'll be honest, the girls that I look at
that I'm like taking my beauty or style inspofor are
probably early fifties right now, early fifties. I think everyone
looks so chic The problem I have with this is
that there's an any is that there is any like
expiration date on some of these things when you hear
(05:07):
a certain age and therefore you're then afterwards considered dressing
younger than your age, like sparkle makeup or whatever, Like
why why is there an expiration date on some of
those fun things? Like That's what really irritates me. And
I can tell you because one of the other questions
we had is what's your personal I'm still hot and
(05:28):
I know it outfit. I literally went on a date
with Matt the other night and I threw on and
I have not done this in so long, but I
was like, I'm gonna Jessica capsule it. I threw on
the shortest little mini skirt and I and I don't
know why, but it's almost like I felt like I'd
had to retire them. But I hadn't done this like
on purpose, and I was like, what am I doing?
(05:49):
I felt so cute out my little mini skirt. Yes,
there may have been a buttcheatter too, but I was
I was loving my life. Yeah, So that's the problem
I had that there's even the phrase younger than your age,
like dressing younger like, cue.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Yeah, yeah, no, I definitely agree with that. I also,
but do you ever have this happen? I think maybe
because I've got teenage daughters, is that I'll get stuck
in an idea of what looks good on me, and
I'll just keep doing that thing, and then there'll be
a new trend that definitely.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
Is the way that you're meant to be wearing, you
know whatever. Perfect example, when oversized became a thing.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
Yeah, no, like I've always bought things that fit me,
and like shirts meant to fit this way, and a
T shirt is supposed to fit this way and whatever,
and then all the kids in their extra large pants
and their extra large hoodies and their extra large T.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Shirts that looks to my eye that looked bananas.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
And then my kids were like, no, no, no, that's how
we wear it. And I was like, oh, I probably
look more yeah, because my clothes fit.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
And then you kind of find yourself going, okay, well,
silhouettes change.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
I mean I do.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
I am sort of I love fashion, so I do
sort of go like, okay, what are the silhouettes?
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Right?
Speaker 3 (07:09):
We used to be there was times when we were
super structured and super.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Tight and then a little looser and then you know
the baggy pants and this, that and the other.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
But it's it's interesting how we how we make it
ours well.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
I think what's interesting also is that, like, for example,
I saw this saying it was like, how to spot
a millennial in the wild?
Speaker 3 (07:30):
How does one do that?
Speaker 2 (07:33):
And one of the things that really irks me, I
swear to god, it's like my but I'm leaning into
the trend even though I don't want to, is that
you could spot a millennial buy our ankle socks we wear.
We don't because you guys don't understand that we saw
our parents in these thick friakin socks and they look
(07:54):
like tragic.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
We decided, yeah, like they were on a jazzer sized class.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Yes, and so we rejected those and we're like ankle
And then now we are the old ones because we're
wearing the little ankle things that I still love them.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
I fixed that about a year and a half ago,
and now I'm used to it now.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
When I wear my ankle socks, I'm.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Like, preat Okay, are you doing the slouch? Are you
doing a fold?
Speaker 1 (08:15):
No? It's a full ankle Like I mean, like when
I go when I wear my little leggings and like
tennis shoes, Yeah, they're like like there's no skin.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
You can't see skin between my leggings and my sock.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Okay, but what about like when you're in a short
skirt the.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Ones I have, when you put them on, they kind
of just naturally like fall a tiny bit so they wrinkle.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
They're not like straight up.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
But yeah, I've seen one thing I do like, I've
seen the tights with the socks in a skirt, in
a mazy skirt, tight socks and like your shoes, it
actually looks quite cute.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
I'm sure it does, but I just am like, it's
like when we were talking about your your planned tweet
outfit for that summer party when in La are you
wearing socks tights and she.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
The damn wearing them?
Speaker 3 (09:03):
But you're gonna be real hot.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
I know, listen, December, it can just get a little
bit colder in December. I know, I know, I know,
I know, I know. Here's also the problem I have
(09:25):
with this, And this might be not everyone's opinion, and
as I get older, I might change my opinion, but
I also think that your I feel like my confidence
in myself and what I look like has peaked in
my forties as opposed to thirties, and so I'm actually
like more into fashion in a way that I was.
(09:48):
So I want to experiment more. And then in turn,
though I look like I'm being a tryhard like I
want to be twenty.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
I'm familiar with that feeling. I feel the same way
I I don't like it. I don't like it, so
I just reject it. When I have the thought, I go, Okay,
I see you thought, and I don't want that. I'm
not on board, and I push it away. Nope, I
can do whatever the I want.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
I feel so much cuterer at forty one that I
did in my thirties at any point in my thirties.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Agree, agree, agree Yes.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
As my friend, sometimes when my pictures come up, I see,
do you like to look at pictures of your like?
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Do not?
Speaker 3 (10:25):
Do you like to? But like I actively don't.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
I really don't know. I really don't myself.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
So you know, and obviously I'm in the wrong business
for that. But I wouldn't like after a photo shoot
or whatever. I think there's a lot of.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
People who want to look at the images and tweak
or whatever. I'm like, nope, we're good.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
I don't need to look at it. I trust the
people that are in charge of this, and then we'll
move on. And I've gotten better at that, not like
I'm running to a monitor to see it, but I'm
not offended by it when I look at it, or
I don't, it's not offended. I used to just when
I saw it, I would instantly pick apart everything.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
That was wrong with me. Yeah, oh, I think I have.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
A greater sense of grace with myself or or I
don't know, maybe a mixture of the two. But I
just I can look at them and be like, oh cool,
like great, yeah, I'm better being my own friend.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Yes, yes, yeah, I feel the same way.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Now this is the other thing that I've been seeing,
and I'm I'm I have a real push or push
pull with it because I feel like I normally shy
away from like being too conspicuous, and so this is
at odds with that. There's all these you know, sort
of like socialites that are becoming fashion's biggest muses, and
(11:45):
it's all like maximalism, right, like it's all like like
it's very even if it's even if it's your ten dollars.
You know, sonnies from Amazon. You're they're meant to be
like rich girl sonnies, you know what I mean. Like
there's all this very like have it all, and it's
the pearls and the vintage glamour and the designer bags
and even if they're but just like having the thing
(12:06):
that means the thing like a lot of I mean
you've worn them, I've born them, like the T shirts
that have like a brand name on them or whatever.
But it's it's an interesting thing because it's kind of
an odds with like I said, I mean, it's not
normally my go too.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Yeah, it's the fashion version of fake it till you
make it, is what they're kind of calling it. I'm
wearing a Salain T shirt. It is something that has
a name across it. I feel like then I can't
I can't wear the pearls with it and the chunky
ear rings and the da and the design it like
I have to chill out on everything else. But that's
just my personal aesthetic. I have really loved. I told
(12:45):
you I'm my Nantucket. I don't know I'm in the
wrong state. My Nantucket vibes is like cozy sweat. It's
like the sweater I'm wearing right now. So I'm not
this is not me, but I appreciate it. I mean
I think that like there's girls that can really pull
it off, and there was a time when I would
have absolutely loved this well.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
And it's interesting because again, the part that I like
about it is not Listen, I'm not advocating for getting
dupes and all that kind of stuff, but I just
I don't I really don't think that things should be
completely like not like anyone's gate keeping it, but things
being so expensive.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Or exclusive fatia, and I feel like everybody should be
able to have access. I remember back when, like Rachel Zoe,
you know, two thousand and five, it was all about
like the you know, you had so many rings on
your fingers and you had you had the layered necklaces
and maybe you had like the faux fur thing that
you got from like wherever, and I loved it.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
I'm just not feeling it in this moment and my forties,
I'm not feeling it.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
I don't have you know, I love fashion, I don't
have a ton of time. I mean, I feel like
in my twenties. I could sit there and you know,
you could contemplate your clothes and put together combinations and
style yourself or look inspirations from Rachel Zoe or whoever.
And for me it was Sianna Miller, and you would
look at the pictures and like recreate it, Like what
do I have like that?
Speaker 3 (14:09):
I still do that.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
I will go on Pinterest, I will go on I
will see the socials and have accounts that I where
someone just has a style that I think is really cute.
And I think lately things actually have gotten a little
bit more simple. We went to back like yeah aesthetic
and things were a little simple, and it was like
combinations of outfits, and I truly, because I'm a super nerd,
(14:32):
I'd take screenshots and truly like put together like a
little thing where it's like thumbtack pictures of all the
different things.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
And you'd be like, oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
When you're in a hurry and you've got a million
things to do and you got to get to work
or you got to get to the kids, and like
having little inspos was super helpful for me or is
for me, and I'll be like, oh, yeah, this this
Khaki pant with this.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
White shirt with this water over your shoulders and this
jewelry and the big ear rings and whatever.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
And you saw it somewhere and you thought worked and
you're like, great, don't even have to think about it.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Here's something that I do that I think is a
problem is that I also do the same thing. I
go through and I'm like, oh my god, I love
that combination, dere And in my mind, I've looked at
so many of these pictures that I think that that's
what I have, Like I almost feel like I'm looking
at it all the time. So that's my style, Like
that's my wardrobe. But I'm in the same pair of
(15:25):
open toad for birkenstocks.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
That I saw you in two years ago, and.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Yes, and the first come off every day. So in
my mind, I'm like this stylish cool like you know
out in the boat and then tucket. But in my
life it's not translating.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay, I do know this to be
true about you.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
But when you are an expert, no one is better
than you.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Like when I send you, you're so clever and you're
so smart. But when I send you a thing for like,
what what should I wear for this event you are
You've already sent me. I haven't even sent me for links,
and they're always good.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Yes, if I if we have to go to an
event other than this event where I would have dressed
wrong but it was still it would have been really cute.
If I have to go to an event, I can
absolutely pull it together for either of us.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
In fact, you sent me a picture the other day
and I was like, I know that that top goes
with those shorts. That trying it wrong? To save it
for that.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
You're wearing it wrong, and I'd like you to fix it.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
I do want to talk about one last thing before
you go. Yeah, the wellness birthday parties are on the rise.
I've been seeing Yep, I've seen that, and I'm super
into it.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
So back in the day, I absolutely wanted to start
a birthday party with like let's go out, let's get
bottomless mimosas, right, like, let's get tipsy. And I am
truly just I'm actually kind of in a space in
my life where I'm really tired of alcohol. Actually, yeah,
(17:22):
like I'm kind of over it.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Well, and there's a possibility of going to a party
and feeling better after the party than you did going
into the party exactly.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
I just I don't know whether it's because listen, it
could because of hashmotos. I don't know what it is.
It could be good, but I swear if I even
have two glasses of wine, I feel it the next day.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
So, the idea of starting a birthday like I saw
someone start a birthday with a sound bath, I'm like, in,
have you ever been one? I've been to one. You
just basically lay there. But I think I'm realizing that,
like I need more of that, like a reset they
as opposed to I'm gonna wake up the next day
and I'm newly whatever it is, and I'm like hungover.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
Yeah, yeah, Okay, can I tell you a story about this.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
So I recently had a night where I like, I
could have gone out for you know, a dinner or
drinks or whatever, and I actually very purposely made the
decision that I was like, no, you know what, I'm
gonna do something chill. I'm gonna do something that where
I'm gonna walk away feeling great after I do this thing.
And I was in New York City and someone had
(18:29):
told me about this place that I guess was like,
I don't know, there was like ancient baths.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
And I saw our situation and I was like, great,
I'm gonna go do that. Take care of me. It's
gonna be a little wellness Jessica moment.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
I love this story. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
So I made the appointment and I showed up and
they said, you bring.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
A bathing suit. Okay, it's baths. And so I get
there and they check.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Me in and it's really nic ice and very it
feels very zen and everything else, and they lead me
to the women's locker room. I always find those locker
rooms a little I mean, you know, it's a little
interesting because you're all.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
Like in the space and like, yeah, naked people and
you know, in varying states of undress. Whatever. So then
a woman comes out and she.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Tells me, you know what the program is, which is
that I'm gonna put my babysuit on, I'm gonna put
this robe on, and then I'm gonna, you know, follow
her down to these stairs to where you re rendezvous
with these baths before you get a massage.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
Okay, great, So I do what I'm supposed to do.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
She walks me out and she looks over her shoulder
as we're walking down this hallway and she's like, so,
are you meeting someone you know on the other side
of this door, like for the baths, for the baths
part of it.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
And I was like, like, you.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Know, like a friend or something, right, okay, And I'm like,
uh no.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
No, nope, it's just me.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
And she looks at me and she goes, oh, it's okay,
you'll have fun anyways.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
And I was like, wait what, oh go what?
Speaker 1 (20:01):
And it's New York, so you're so I go down
and it's now the sudden becomes very very dimly lit,
like barely can see your hand in front of your
face kind of dimly lit. And now I'm actually worried
that I've done something wrong. I just think that it
is not going to make me feel better.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Yeah no, yeah, oh my god. Wait what?
Speaker 3 (20:26):
And someone checks me in and he says.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Okay, how many people are checking you in? You've had
to just let the TSA. You've felt like five check
in security checkpoint.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
And I'm on to the second. And so this gentleman
meets me. He's got his iPad.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
They all have iPads, and he's like he's like okay,
and I walk into the space where now it becomes
a little brighter because I can see you to my
right and down a couple more stairs that there are
about six different aquamarine pools that are lit up in
this round space, and the one that's closest to me
(21:00):
that I can see, like as I look over the
railing has got two people in it and they're just floating,
but like frog legged two people floating in the ancient
nun And all of a sudden, I'm putting that together
with the fact that this woman has said are you
are you.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
Meeting someone here?
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (21:20):
And then I'm putting it together with the fact that
it's a Friday night in New York City.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
And I'm this is a couple situation. This is not
a wellness Jessica night.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Oh my god. This is like a new date night
that you've and you've gone single mingle.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Very different.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
My social anxiety is like so stressed right now. The
fact that their frog life floating is or even run
for you, and then you just join the date like
I'm so like you can see me. I'm like blushing
a little bit, like I'm so stressed out I can
do the story. This is horrifying.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
Hi, I was going to die, and I didn't know
where the escape patch was.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
And I had this massage waiting on the other end
of it, right that I'd already paid for.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
So what do I do?
Speaker 3 (22:12):
So I'm wearing my bathing seat on my rope.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
I'm literally crying.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
You look at the guy with the iPad and this
is like a section to the episode.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
This is a full Sex of City episode. Okay, yeah
you okay, yeah, Number five is the iPad?
Speaker 3 (22:27):
The iPad? Hey, is there another option for me?
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Right?
Speaker 3 (22:32):
And he's like, what do you mean?
Speaker 1 (22:34):
And I said, what if if I wanted to skip
the baths part of it?
Speaker 3 (22:37):
He's like, oh you do?
Speaker 1 (22:38):
And I was like, yeah, I think I'm I mean,
like if I wanted to wait for the massage part,
like where would I wait? And he goes, oh, well,
I mean no one ever does that. And I was like, okay, yeah,
but if I wanted to go back to the locker
room and then we'll come find you, And I said, okay, just.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Sit in the locker room, just sit.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
There, and he's like, but you should look around and
see if there's any of the bad do you want
to get into?
Speaker 3 (23:00):
And I was like hmm okay. So he left me
and I said, but so, how will you find me?
If I'm just You'll find me in one of these beds.
And he's like, yeah, find you.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
I'm like what okay, No, like Jessica and get your
shit together.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
You're a grown up.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Yeah, yeah, situation, and you should.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Just go find the bath that you should dip into, right, yeah,
just calm the mind and I So I went on
a little walk, I did a lap, and there was
one bath that seemed to be unoccupied, and right as
I was about to take my robe off and put
a toe into the.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
I was like rollicking over and and like jumps in.
And I was like, okay, we're done. We're done. I'm out.
I'm out. So I went back to the locker room
and then I just sat by my locker. Oh he
waited for someone to come grab me for my massage.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Oh that plan for wellness, you know, didn't one hundred
percent work out for me.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
But I'm not gonna stop trying.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Oh my god, this is but I definitely.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Think that if I would if I was recommending that
experience to anyone, I would say definitely do not.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Go so low, No, absolutely.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
I did the one guy floating.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
It's the floating if they weren't floating, but it's the
floating because like, if you're you can't like, okay, I'm
just like picturing you floating and then you accidentally, you know,
you're touching another body and then you just sort of
float your way back over. It's so awkward.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
It's because it's a won's experience, and obviously there's something
healing about these ancient maths.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
There were also a couple of people that were like stretching.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
No, Jessica, you know what the momosas sound better in
this moment. I'm back to Amosa brunch for my birthday.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
This is what you wish for.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
We have to add know this, please please write this.
We need to. We need to collect all our little
stories and just put them into stuff. Because this is
apposite the floating frog leg couples. I can picture it
so well. And then just you by yourself, Oh god,
it's so true.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Right by the way, how you felt hearing me tell
the story is how I felt.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
Being in this story. I've never been so anxious. No,
the entire experience was really quite stressful.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
No, and then just you sat by your locker is
just really tragic. Just people walking around you naked, undressed. Man,
you know what, Jessica, wait before before we go, me
and you when I go to New York next, we're
gonna sound bath together. No, not sound bath.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
We're gonna do this.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
What is it called.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
I don't know if I could go back.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
We're going back. We're going to frog leg together. We're
gonna have our own romantic date, just me and you
and you know what, if a third person comes in,
get out, get out, I'm gonna scratch. I know I need.
I'm not kidding. This is exactly what we're doing next
time I'm in New York. All right, we gotta call
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it the end, the end of the episode.
Call It what It Is with Jessica Capshaw and Camille Luddington,
an iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Well, Hello, Hello, Hello, Hello call it crew, and welcome
to another episode of Short and Sweet. I think this is.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
A mashup of all the things that have been grabbing
our attention lately.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Yeah, they're trends, they're headlines that have been hooking us sometimes.
Is TikTok a text swad or something we didn't even
know what we cared about and then it was just everywhere?
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Suddenly then you find yourself going down the rabbit hole
and oh yeah, you know, you know a lot about a.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Little, are a little about a lot. It depends on
what kind of mood you're in.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Okay, let's get start on the first one. Let's do it,
which is women on TikTok are quote unquote rejecting their age.
So this is where women are dressing, acting, and living
younger than your age. And how you feel and not
how old you are.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
I mean, this is so subjective, but yes, go on,
this is very subjective.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
But for example, there are all these rules out there.
I have so many opinions on this. There are all
these rules out there, like, for example, you can't wear
a lot of sparkle after forty Did you know that? Apparently?
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Whose rule is that?
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Apparently it's aging gracefully where we're we don't, We're not
supposed to like stand out is what I've seen, and
I'm going to stand out. I'm gonna. I am so
irritated by this because like even the have you heard
about the glitter eye shadow rule?
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Who is making these rules and where we're not kidding?
Speaker 2 (01:47):
So after forty you're not supposed to be wearing glitter
eyeshadow because it's like a more youthful and b it
like it's supposedly like you know, get stuck in our
old baggy wrinkles and we're gonna to be disgusting out
in the world. I have started adding adding bronzy glitter
to my daily shadow, so you know what f everybody's
(02:12):
saying it. So I'm serious, that's a rule, Jess. It's
like literally out there.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Well, that's not a rule.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
I had never heard that rule, and I don't I
don't fall I mean, I don't have a ton of
sparkle in my makeup drawer, but I did. Actually I
remember when I was younger, speaking of sparkle, I used
to have a.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Spray, a spray spray the sparkle, Oh, the sparkle, spray
sparkle everywhere.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Okay, sparkle, I would sparkle. I don't. I put a
light mist on the face.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Okay, definitely a medium mist on the chest and the decoltage.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
You are not brightness out there?
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Are we talking about? Like? Are we talking about? Like
you're hitting up the club, so you're doing like that
sparkle a you're talking.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
About like it was a sparkle club girl.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Okay, you're not going to the grocery store with a
sparkle though.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Well, I mean the next day, if it was the
day off the club, I might still have some sparkle remnants.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
I mean I might not have showered yet. Who knows,
it didn't all come off.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
You're like Tinkerrell, and I think that this my way
in would be.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
I think, I mean, close your eyes and think about
what you thought when you were twelve years old and
whatever person in your life was forty at the time. Yeah,
I don't think that person probably resembles you now, like
there was still difference, isn't there that some crazy statistics
someone pull it up for us, But It's like the
(03:39):
Golden Girls who were meant to be living in like convalescing,
they were meant to be like out to pasture. They were,
and they were like in their forties.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Yes, how old were they?
Speaker 3 (03:51):
They were?
Speaker 2 (03:51):
They were literally like forty at least fifties. Yes, No,
it's so insane. I think my pro the problem I
have with this is even the idea that you're living, dressing, acting,
quote younger than your age. Oh they were. The youngest
was fifty three and they literally looked eighty.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Yes they were.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Seriously, yes.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
And now you look at.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
People and you look at the and I also think that,
you know, I think media is changing with it is,
you know, creating a little more flexibility within the our
culture's idea of beauty because there's you know, women on
the cover of things that are not only twenty I
mean there's beautiful, beautiful women or you know, absolutely being
(04:38):
seen for their beauty that they're not you know, tiny
little chickens.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Well, I'll be honest, the girls that I look at
that I'm like taking my beauty or style inspofor are
probably early fifties right now, early fifties. I think everyone
looks so chic The problem I have with this is
that there's an any is that there is any like
expiration date on some of these things when you hear
(05:07):
a certain age and therefore you're then afterwards considered dressing
younger than your age, like sparkle makeup or whatever, Like
why why is there an expiration date on some of
those fun things? Like That's what really irritates me. And
I can tell you because one of the other questions
we had is what's your personal I'm still hot and
(05:28):
I know it outfit. I literally went on a date
with Matt the other night and I threw on and
I have not done this in so long, but I
was like, I'm gonna Jessica capsule it. I threw on
the shortest little mini skirt and I and I don't
know why, but it's almost like I felt like I'd
had to retire them. But I hadn't done this like
on purpose, and I was like, what am I doing?
(05:49):
I felt so cute out my little mini skirt. Yes,
there may have been a buttcheatter too, but I was
I was loving my life. Yeah, So that's the problem
I had that there's even the phrase younger than your age,
like dressing younger like, cue.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Yeah, yeah, no, I definitely agree with that. I also,
but do you ever have this happen? I think maybe
because I've got teenage daughters, is that I'll get stuck
in an idea of what looks good on me, and
I'll just keep doing that thing, and then there'll be
a new trend that definitely.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
Is the way that you're meant to be wearing, you
know whatever. Perfect example, when oversized became a thing.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
Yeah, no, like I've always bought things that fit me,
and like shirts meant to fit this way, and a
T shirt is supposed to fit this way and whatever,
and then all the kids in their extra large pants
and their extra large hoodies and their extra large T.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Shirts that looks to my eye that looked bananas.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
And then my kids were like, no, no, no, that's how
we wear it. And I was like, oh, I probably
look more yeah, because my clothes fit.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
And then you kind of find yourself going, okay, well,
silhouettes change.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
I mean I do.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
I am sort of I love fashion, so I do
sort of go like, okay, what are the silhouettes?
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Right?
Speaker 3 (07:09):
We used to be there was times when we were
super structured and super.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Tight and then a little looser and then you know
the baggy pants and this, that and the other.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
But it's it's interesting how we how we make it
ours well.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
I think what's interesting also is that, like, for example,
I saw this saying it was like, how to spot
a millennial in the wild?
Speaker 3 (07:30):
How does one do that?
Speaker 2 (07:33):
And one of the things that really irks me, I
swear to god, it's like my but I'm leaning into
the trend even though I don't want to, is that
you could spot a millennial buy our ankle socks we wear.
We don't because you guys don't understand that we saw
our parents in these thick friakin socks and they look
(07:54):
like tragic.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
We decided, yeah, like they were on a jazzer sized class.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Yes, and so we rejected those and we're like ankle
And then now we are the old ones because we're
wearing the little ankle things that I still love them.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
I fixed that about a year and a half ago,
and now I'm used to it now.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
When I wear my ankle socks, I'm.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Like, preat Okay, are you doing the slouch? Are you
doing a fold?
Speaker 1 (08:15):
No? It's a full ankle Like I mean, like when
I go when I wear my little leggings and like
tennis shoes, Yeah, they're like like there's no skin.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
You can't see skin between my leggings and my sock.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Okay, but what about like when you're in a short
skirt the.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Ones I have, when you put them on, they kind
of just naturally like fall a tiny bit so they wrinkle.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
They're not like straight up.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
But yeah, I've seen one thing I do like, I've
seen the tights with the socks in a skirt, in
a mazy skirt, tight socks and like your shoes, it
actually looks quite cute.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
I'm sure it does, but I just am like, it's
like when we were talking about your your planned tweet
outfit for that summer party when in La are you
wearing socks tights and she.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
The damn wearing them?
Speaker 3 (09:03):
But you're gonna be real hot.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
I know, listen, December, it can just get a little
bit colder in December. I know, I know, I know,
I know, I know. Here's also the problem I have
(09:25):
with this, And this might be not everyone's opinion, and
as I get older, I might change my opinion, but
I also think that your I feel like my confidence
in myself and what I look like has peaked in
my forties as opposed to thirties, and so I'm actually
like more into fashion in a way that I was.
(09:48):
So I want to experiment more. And then in turn,
though I look like I'm being a tryhard like I
want to be twenty.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
I'm familiar with that feeling. I feel the same way
I I don't like it. I don't like it, so
I just reject it. When I have the thought, I go, Okay,
I see you thought, and I don't want that. I'm
not on board, and I push it away. Nope, I
can do whatever the I want.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
I feel so much cuterer at forty one that I
did in my thirties at any point in my thirties.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Agree, agree, agree Yes.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
As my friend, sometimes when my pictures come up, I see,
do you like to look at pictures of your like?
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Do not?
Speaker 3 (10:25):
Do you like to? But like I actively don't.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
I really don't know. I really don't myself.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
So you know, and obviously I'm in the wrong business
for that. But I wouldn't like after a photo shoot
or whatever. I think there's a lot of.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
People who want to look at the images and tweak
or whatever. I'm like, nope, we're good.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
I don't need to look at it. I trust the
people that are in charge of this, and then we'll
move on. And I've gotten better at that, not like
I'm running to a monitor to see it, but I'm
not offended by it when I look at it, or
I don't, it's not offended. I used to just when
I saw it, I would instantly pick apart everything.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
That was wrong with me. Yeah, oh, I think I have.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
A greater sense of grace with myself or or I
don't know, maybe a mixture of the two. But I
just I can look at them and be like, oh cool,
like great, yeah, I'm better being my own friend.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Yes, yes, yeah, I feel the same way.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Now this is the other thing that I've been seeing,
and I'm I'm I have a real push or push
pull with it because I feel like I normally shy
away from like being too conspicuous, and so this is
at odds with that. There's all these you know, sort
of like socialites that are becoming fashion's biggest muses, and
(11:45):
it's all like maximalism, right, like it's all like like
it's very even if it's even if it's your ten dollars.
You know, sonnies from Amazon. You're they're meant to be
like rich girl sonnies, you know what I mean. Like
there's all this very like have it all, and it's
the pearls and the vintage glamour and the designer bags
and even if they're but just like having the thing
(12:06):
that means the thing like a lot of I mean
you've worn them, I've born them, like the T shirts
that have like a brand name on them or whatever.
But it's it's an interesting thing because it's kind of
an odds with like I said, I mean, it's not
normally my go too.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Yeah, it's the fashion version of fake it till you
make it, is what they're kind of calling it. I'm
wearing a Salain T shirt. It is something that has
a name across it. I feel like then I can't
I can't wear the pearls with it and the chunky
ear rings and the da and the design it like
I have to chill out on everything else. But that's
just my personal aesthetic. I have really loved. I told
(12:45):
you I'm my Nantucket. I don't know I'm in the
wrong state. My Nantucket vibes is like cozy sweat. It's
like the sweater I'm wearing right now. So I'm not
this is not me, but I appreciate it. I mean
I think that like there's girls that can really pull
it off, and there was a time when I would
have absolutely loved this well.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
And it's interesting because again, the part that I like
about it is not Listen, I'm not advocating for getting
dupes and all that kind of stuff, but I just
I don't I really don't think that things should be
completely like not like anyone's gate keeping it, but things
being so expensive.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Or exclusive fatia, and I feel like everybody should be
able to have access. I remember back when, like Rachel Zoe,
you know, two thousand and five, it was all about
like the you know, you had so many rings on
your fingers and you had you had the layered necklaces
and maybe you had like the faux fur thing that
you got from like wherever, and I loved it.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
I'm just not feeling it in this moment and my forties,
I'm not feeling it.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
I don't have you know, I love fashion, I don't
have a ton of time. I mean, I feel like
in my twenties. I could sit there and you know,
you could contemplate your clothes and put together combinations and
style yourself or look inspirations from Rachel Zoe or whoever.
And for me it was Sianna Miller, and you would
look at the pictures and like recreate it, Like what
do I have like that?
Speaker 3 (14:09):
I still do that.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
I will go on Pinterest, I will go on I
will see the socials and have accounts that I where
someone just has a style that I think is really cute.
And I think lately things actually have gotten a little
bit more simple. We went to back like yeah aesthetic
and things were a little simple, and it was like
combinations of outfits, and I truly, because I'm a super nerd,
(14:32):
I'd take screenshots and truly like put together like a
little thing where it's like thumbtack pictures of all the
different things.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
And you'd be like, oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
When you're in a hurry and you've got a million
things to do and you got to get to work
or you got to get to the kids, and like
having little inspos was super helpful for me or is
for me, and I'll be like, oh, yeah, this this
Khaki pant with this.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
White shirt with this water over your shoulders and this
jewelry and the big ear rings and whatever.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
And you saw it somewhere and you thought worked and
you're like, great, don't even have to think about it.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Here's something that I do that I think is a
problem is that I also do the same thing. I
go through and I'm like, oh my god, I love
that combination, dere And in my mind, I've looked at
so many of these pictures that I think that that's
what I have, Like I almost feel like I'm looking
at it all the time. So that's my style, Like
that's my wardrobe. But I'm in the same pair of
(15:25):
open toad for birkenstocks.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
That I saw you in two years ago, and.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Yes, and the first come off every day. So in
my mind, I'm like this stylish cool like you know
out in the boat and then tucket. But in my
life it's not translating.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay, I do know this to be
true about you.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
But when you are an expert, no one is better
than you.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Like when I send you, you're so clever and you're
so smart. But when I send you a thing for like,
what what should I wear for this event you are
You've already sent me. I haven't even sent me for links,
and they're always good.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Yes, if I if we have to go to an
event other than this event where I would have dressed
wrong but it was still it would have been really cute.
If I have to go to an event, I can
absolutely pull it together for either of us.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
In fact, you sent me a picture the other day
and I was like, I know that that top goes
with those shorts. That trying it wrong? To save it
for that.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
You're wearing it wrong, and I'd like you to fix it.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
I do want to talk about one last thing before
you go. Yeah, the wellness birthday parties are on the rise.
I've been seeing Yep, I've seen that, and I'm super
into it.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
So back in the day, I absolutely wanted to start
a birthday party with like let's go out, let's get
bottomless mimosas, right, like, let's get tipsy. And I am
truly just I'm actually kind of in a space in
my life where I'm really tired of alcohol. Actually, yeah,
(17:22):
like I'm kind of over it.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Well, and there's a possibility of going to a party
and feeling better after the party than you did going
into the party exactly.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
I just I don't know whether it's because listen, it
could because of hashmotos. I don't know what it is.
It could be good, but I swear if I even
have two glasses of wine, I feel it the next day.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
So, the idea of starting a birthday like I saw
someone start a birthday with a sound bath, I'm like, in,
have you ever been one? I've been to one. You
just basically lay there. But I think I'm realizing that,
like I need more of that, like a reset they
as opposed to I'm gonna wake up the next day
and I'm newly whatever it is, and I'm like hungover.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
Yeah, yeah, Okay, can I tell you a story about this.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
So I recently had a night where I like, I
could have gone out for you know, a dinner or
drinks or whatever, and I actually very purposely made the
decision that I was like, no, you know what, I'm
gonna do something chill. I'm gonna do something that where
I'm gonna walk away feeling great after I do this thing.
And I was in New York City and someone had
(18:29):
told me about this place that I guess was like,
I don't know, there was like ancient baths.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
And I saw our situation and I was like, great,
I'm gonna go do that. Take care of me. It's
gonna be a little wellness Jessica moment.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
I love this story. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
So I made the appointment and I showed up and
they said, you bring.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
A bathing suit. Okay, it's baths. And so I get
there and they check.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Me in and it's really nic ice and very it
feels very zen and everything else, and they lead me
to the women's locker room. I always find those locker
rooms a little I mean, you know, it's a little
interesting because you're all.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
Like in the space and like, yeah, naked people and
you know, in varying states of undress. Whatever. So then
a woman comes out and she.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Tells me, you know what the program is, which is
that I'm gonna put my babysuit on, I'm gonna put
this robe on, and then I'm gonna, you know, follow
her down to these stairs to where you re rendezvous
with these baths before you get a massage.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
Okay, great, So I do what I'm supposed to do.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
She walks me out and she looks over her shoulder
as we're walking down this hallway and she's like, so,
are you meeting someone you know on the other side
of this door, like for the baths, for the baths
part of it.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
And I was like, like, you.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Know, like a friend or something, right, okay, And I'm like,
uh no.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
No, nope, it's just me.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
And she looks at me and she goes, oh, it's okay,
you'll have fun anyways.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
And I was like, wait what, oh go what?
Speaker 1 (20:01):
And it's New York, so you're so I go down
and it's now the sudden becomes very very dimly lit,
like barely can see your hand in front of your
face kind of dimly lit. And now I'm actually worried
that I've done something wrong. I just think that it
is not going to make me feel better.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Yeah no, yeah, oh my god. Wait what?
Speaker 3 (20:26):
And someone checks me in and he says.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Okay, how many people are checking you in? You've had
to just let the TSA. You've felt like five check
in security checkpoint.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
And I'm on to the second. And so this gentleman
meets me. He's got his iPad.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
They all have iPads, and he's like he's like okay,
and I walk into the space where now it becomes
a little brighter because I can see you to my
right and down a couple more stairs that there are
about six different aquamarine pools that are lit up in
this round space, and the one that's closest to me
(21:00):
that I can see, like as I look over the
railing has got two people in it and they're just floating,
but like frog legged two people floating in the ancient
nun And all of a sudden, I'm putting that together
with the fact that this woman has said are you
are you.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
Meeting someone here?
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (21:20):
And then I'm putting it together with the fact that
it's a Friday night in New York City.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
And I'm this is a couple situation. This is not
a wellness Jessica night.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Oh my god. This is like a new date night
that you've and you've gone single mingle.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Very different.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
My social anxiety is like so stressed right now. The
fact that their frog life floating is or even run
for you, and then you just join the date like
I'm so like you can see me. I'm like blushing
a little bit, like I'm so stressed out I can
do the story. This is horrifying.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
Hi, I was going to die, and I didn't know
where the escape patch was.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
And I had this massage waiting on the other end
of it, right that I'd already paid for.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
So what do I do?
Speaker 3 (22:12):
So I'm wearing my bathing seat on my rope.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
I'm literally crying.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
You look at the guy with the iPad and this
is like a section to the episode.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
This is a full Sex of City episode. Okay, yeah
you okay, yeah, Number five is the iPad?
Speaker 3 (22:27):
The iPad? Hey, is there another option for me?
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Right?
Speaker 3 (22:32):
And he's like, what do you mean?
Speaker 1 (22:34):
And I said, what if if I wanted to skip
the baths part of it?
Speaker 3 (22:37):
He's like, oh you do?
Speaker 1 (22:38):
And I was like, yeah, I think I'm I mean,
like if I wanted to wait for the massage part,
like where would I wait? And he goes, oh, well,
I mean no one ever does that. And I was like, okay, yeah,
but if I wanted to go back to the locker
room and then we'll come find you, And I said, okay, just.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Sit in the locker room, just sit.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
There, and he's like, but you should look around and
see if there's any of the bad do you want
to get into?
Speaker 3 (23:00):
And I was like hmm okay. So he left me
and I said, but so, how will you find me?
If I'm just You'll find me in one of these beds.
And he's like, yeah, find you.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
I'm like what okay, No, like Jessica and get your
shit together.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
You're a grown up.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Yeah, yeah, situation, and you should.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Just go find the bath that you should dip into, right, yeah,
just calm the mind and I So I went on
a little walk, I did a lap, and there was
one bath that seemed to be unoccupied, and right as
I was about to take my robe off and put
a toe into the.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
I was like rollicking over and and like jumps in.
And I was like, okay, we're done. We're done. I'm out.
I'm out. So I went back to the locker room
and then I just sat by my locker. Oh he
waited for someone to come grab me for my massage.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Oh that plan for wellness, you know, didn't one hundred
percent work out for me.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
But I'm not gonna stop trying.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Oh my god, this is but I definitely.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Think that if I would if I was recommending that
experience to anyone, I would say definitely do not.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Go so low, No, absolutely.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
I did the one guy floating.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
It's the floating if they weren't floating, but it's the
floating because like, if you're you can't like, okay, I'm
just like picturing you floating and then you accidentally, you know,
you're touching another body and then you just sort of
float your way back over. It's so awkward.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
It's because it's a won's experience, and obviously there's something
healing about these ancient maths.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
There were also a couple of people that were like stretching.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
No, Jessica, you know what the momosas sound better in
this moment. I'm back to Amosa brunch for my birthday.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
This is what you wish for.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
We have to add know this, please please write this.
We need to. We need to collect all our little
stories and just put them into stuff. Because this is
apposite the floating frog leg couples. I can picture it
so well. And then just you by yourself, Oh god,
it's so true.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Right by the way, how you felt hearing me tell
the story is how I felt.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
Being in this story. I've never been so anxious. No,
the entire experience was really quite stressful.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
No, and then just you sat by your locker is
just really tragic. Just people walking around you naked, undressed. Man,
you know what, Jessica, wait before before we go, me
and you when I go to New York next, we're
gonna sound bath together. No, not sound bath.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
We're gonna do this.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
What is it called.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
I don't know if I could go back.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
We're going back. We're going to frog leg together. We're
gonna have our own romantic date, just me and you
and you know what, if a third person comes in,
get out, get out, I'm gonna scratch. I know I need.
I'm not kidding. This is exactly what we're doing next
time I'm in New York. All right, we gotta call
(26:14):
it the end, the end of the episode.
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Jessica Capshaw
Camilla Luddington
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