September 1, 2025 • 35 mins
We CALLED IT!
Jessica saw Taylor and Travis in person and knew they were end game. From the most perfect proposal pictures EVER, to the “Say Anything” moment we all wanted for her, our resident Swifties just can’t Shake it Off!
Meanwhile, is Jessica inner circle enough to get invited to the wedding? Camilla thinks so. Plus, the bling in that ring and the wedding dress we think screams Taylor. The Call It Crew is ‘unveiling’ the wedding they want for the people’s princess.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Call It What It Is with Jessica Capshaw and Camille Luddington,
an iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Well, Hello, Hello, Hello.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Hello Call It crew, and welcome to another episode of
Call It What It Is. Taylor Swift's Engagement Episode Edition.
I couldn't, Like I was trying to think of like
a fun way to like intro it, but like I
just we got to dive in.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Well, I think we're in our engagement era. Would be
on brand, We're.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
In the engagement era. Okay, you have seen them together
in person? I have, yes. Did you think like this
the vibes were endgame? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (00:54):
I kind of, yeah, I did. I did. They're just
you know what, they're just what I was actually sort
of why. What I always marvel at about her is
that she's doing She's performing in a way that feels
like herculean, Like you, like no one could perform like that.
Like the way she performs, how she performs, the duration
(01:16):
of performance, all of it is just so heroic. And
you would think that that would take I mean, I
know it does take a super huge amount of effort,
but she makes it look so easy. And I think
that that's the thing that I noticed in my sliver
of time with them. Yeah, was the easiness. And my
guess is, you know, it's well, it's a huge life
(01:38):
and she's, you know, stepping off stage after doing a
three hour concert, and he just he was so warm
and smiley and he was so nice to my daughter.
So of course that made me like you more. And
so yeah, yeah, so yeah, endgame, endgame. I'm really glad
they got into the end zone.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
I yeah, thank god, I am. I don't I got
a little like I was watching the New Heights. Now,
I don't know if they were engaged when New Heights
happened the way that's new.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Information to me. Wait, this didn't just happen.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
And then I got to know this happened like a
couple of weeks ago. But when I was watching New Heights,
I was like they felt engage y. To me, it
was a vibe that was like they're they're at that
like most comfortable point, and he was so adoring of
her and their body language. I was like, it's it's
(02:26):
either happened and we don't know about it, or it's coming,
is what I thought. Yeah, so I basically killed it
what it is?
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Yeah you called it?
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Oh yeah, confirmed Travis's father confirmed the proposal took place
two weeks ago.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Wow. Okay, So here's my question for you. Sure, maybe
more than any other person of note, And that's being
really conservative calling her a person of note really right,
Like she might be one of the most the biggest
and most famous people on the planet. I feel like
more than any other person her. I mean, don't think
(03:02):
there's anyone else like her, but I feel like she's
sort of given whoever's going to ask her to marry them,
like the roadmap, Like, do you think that he Do
you think he followed her directions? Do you think he improvised?
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Do you say I was thinking about this, because like
when what I was thinking about is I would be
terrified to propose to Taylor Swift?
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Say why? Say why?
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Okay? Because I feel like she is a diehard romantic,
which I understand I can relate to, and she's very
public publicly, you know, shared these relationships with us for
music and these breakups, and you know that there are
millions of people rooting for this perfect happy ending for her.
(03:52):
And now you're going to be the guy that does
the proposal. That it's not just Travis would know it's
not just about Taylor, right, It is, of course in
the moment, but that every swifty is going to be
examining all the pictures and being like, is this Taylor?
Like is this what she would have wanted? Just like
you said, so the pressure is so enormous. But I
(04:15):
think looking at these pictures, I think he killed it
it Like it's so fairytale, enchanted that he did so good.
I mean, I don't know, is tree Paint out there
helping him? I don't like who was he getting advice from?
Like who did he call?
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Well?
Speaker 2 (04:32):
I think also we get to imagine, right, I think
we just get to make up the story in our head.
And I guess they'll be parsing out information about how
it went down. But I want to imagine that he
thought of it all on his own, and then knowing
her as well as he did, that he that he
was delivering exactly what she wanted. I mean, isn't that
the whole point of an engagement? Right? Like, you're you're
(04:55):
meant to be whoever you're getting, whoever you're proposing to.
You're not meant to think about how you would like
to be proposed to. You're meant to think about how
they would like to be proposed to. I mean, it
looks pretty pretty damn grand.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
It looks so grand. It looks I read I don't
know if this is true, but I read that he's
that they were like supposed to be going out for dinner,
and that's what she thought she was going out for,
and he was like, let's go have wine in this
little area and he took her back there and that's when.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Under this massive art of the most gorgeous flowers in
the world. This isn't.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Yes, totally, I'm assuming that that was like I don't
know who was involved with that, but that was I'm
assuming that's not the usual wine garden.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Yes, a little pre dinner.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
It's funny though, because swifties have like zoomed in on
her nails, because you know, if a proposal's coming, you're
gonna get your nails done right, And they zoomed on
her nails, and her nails look really natural, like they're
not done at all, and so that's become their theory
as to why she really did not expect it. This day.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Interesting. There's such sleuths, I know, like a bunch of
little pis.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Okay, Taylor likened Travis's proposal efforts to an eighties John
Hughes movie scene referencing say Anything with the boombox moment?
Is there a better compliment? Isn't that what we all want?
We want to say Anything moment?
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Oh my gosh, John Cusack as Lloyd Dobbler in that
movie when he goes to her and ione sky is
up in that window and he's.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Got that with the trench coat, and then yeah, that's also.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
So Taylor, Like I feel like that, you know, she
she just she oozes and seems like she has such
a big heart and so much love and so much
passion and excitement for stuff. That to be with someone
who also can be like near that or has access
to that same strength of emotion is so cool, and
(06:56):
that like loves her in that way. Yes, of course
she would want an eighties yes bus moment.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
I also love that we all feel part of this story,
the beginnings, the origin of this romance, like we all.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Knew well, let's talk about that for a second.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Okay, So he knew that he had gone to the concert.
He had not like they talked with someone new heights.
He was not in like some special area. He was
not in the tents right that you can be in.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Uh huh, No, no VIP treatment for.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Him, No VIP. He was out. He was out in
the crowd. He'd made his friendship bracelets and he was
hoping that they would get to her. And then he
complained that it, you know, it didn't really work out
on on the on his podcast. I think I think
it's so romantic.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
I know, okay, but so so for for all the
people that in in in they are deeply invested in football.
Wasn't there a whole lot of talk about how it
was like it was not real and like that they
were that they were, you know, creating some like attention
because of football season everything else. I'm like, weren't they
dating for a long time before they actually they were?
(08:03):
So isn't that just doesn't I mean, no, they were
really dating.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
I think if you're in the public eye that there's
always going to be some conspiracy theory that like of
all that.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Stuff, right, they just want to talk about something.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Yeah, And I have to say that when I saw
these pictures, I was like, this is ridiculous. This could
be like an album cover, like it really she wrote
like English. Her caption was like English teacher, your English teacher,
and your gym teacher are getting married. And I'm like, oh,
it looks to me like the football dude and like
the girlm and like in the bleachers with the T
(08:41):
shirt like a song guy, Like what's happening?
Speaker 2 (08:43):
I know, I know, I know, I know there's something
there is there's something I mean, which is just sounds
ridiculous as I'm saying out loud, but there's something so
accessible about them. There's something that I knowing, you know
that they would be your English teacher or your gym teacher,
even though no, no.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
No, no, they're definitely not. They're definitely not. Did you
know that her engagement post garnered one point two million likes?
Speaker 2 (09:09):
It's crazy and then like and then exponentially more since then.
I don't know what it's that now, but it's a lot.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Wild, I know, But you know what was it so sweet?
Speaker 2 (09:17):
What what Travis's dad said?
Speaker 1 (09:19):
What did he say?
Speaker 2 (09:20):
He said that the source of Travis's happiness is Taylor?
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Oh my god, I gotta tell you if that if
someone said that about Hayden, I would like melt. But
I think you can see it too, right, Like he's
giddy for her.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
I know, I know, I know, and you know, and
I also love. I love how much they root each
other on in their professions. Like I know, they just
look like they are so proud of each other, and
obviously we get to see them, you know, celebrating it.
But when she's at his game or when he's at
her concert, there's just like such joy.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
Yeah.
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Speaker 1 (11:33):
You know, what I think will work in their favor
is that they're obviously incredibly talented, like top of the
class situation, and both their professions right, but they're in
completely different professions. And so I think that that any
like jealousy or competitiveness that could come into, you know,
like leak into a relationship like that when people are
(11:56):
that big stars, you know, celebrities, I feel like it
won't happen because it's just so different. Yeah, and I'm
glad that she's not with Is it just me personally.
I'm personally glad that she's not with another singer, she's
not with an actor. Even I'm glad that she's with
someone that's like, I'm glad she's with the football star.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
I know, I know, you know, when she announced her
new album, not like I ever stopped listening to her,
but I think, you know, you everything goes in like
ebbs and flows, and I was, actually, I've been listening
to a lot of country.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Yeah, of course you are.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
And when she announced her album, I was like cleaning
up my apartment and you know, listening to music. And
I put just like the Taylor Swift radio on and
I got full back in, full back in, and then
I get in the car and I put it on.
I'm like truly, and I'm like, it's just she's just
such an incredible storyteller. And now I wonder, like, is
(12:56):
her new I mean, I'm guessing that a lot of
her new album will be a.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Bad Well That's what I'm so excited about, because I
feel like we've had, like we've had some breakup albums,
and I so appreciate them. Okay, there's some bangers in
those albums, for sure, but I like the happy tailor.
I'm in love and engaged in all the things I
want that.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Yeah, I feel like she's earned it.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Okay, let's get into some of the details the ring.
What did you think when you first saw the ring? Damn,
it's really big. I saw someone online say, a journalist
say that they think that it's worth like two to
three million dollars stop it. Yes, I'm not kidding.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
I heard one and then my girls were chatche be
teeing it.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Oh my god, so smart. What did chat cheby te say?
We don't want to know?
Speaker 2 (13:47):
You know what? I think Chat was wrong because Chat
was like the lowest estimation. It was like half a
million dollars. Well, I'm acting like that's just like a
normal amount of money to.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Be Yeah, we're like, no, Chat, that's really cheap. Come on, Chat.
I saw it and I was like, damn, it's huge.
But and I know everyone's saying this, but I just
have to like get on the bandwagon.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
It's so Taylor, yeah, because it's kind of vintag but
like romantic.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
I know, I know, do you think? And I want
to know what you did because they'll tell you what
I did. Do you think, Taylor and Travis had this
conversation and she was like, this is the exact ring,
oh that I want?
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Oh gosh, I don't know what I think. That's such
a great question.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Is it? Like do we think that she like Pinterest
a bunch of pictures and she was like, here's the inspo?
Or do you think she was like this is this?
Is it? It's hard because the Taylor that we all
know is a perfectionist planner of all the things and
an engagement ring hopefully you're only getting one. Don't you
(14:57):
think that she kind of wants a hand in it?
It would be interesting if she was completely hands off,
and if she was, he nailed it somehow.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Yeah, ooh, I want to know.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Now.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
I'm trying to think, hold on, I just need I
need a moment of silence to think about. Okay, But
I think my answer is okay, hold on, I'm channeling
to him.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
I have, I have what I think my answer is,
but I want to hear yours first.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
I think he did it on his own.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
No answer.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
I think he looks and listens. I think he's a
smart partner. I think he likely had an idea of
what she would like. But I'm guessing that he was
that he took all that information, synthesized it, and then
went out and got the ring that he thought that
she would love the most. That's my answer. I'm sticking with.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
It, Okay, I like it. I have a similar answer.
I think that she gave him. I think they're probably
this is what I'm imagining. There was a conversation and
Travis was like, hey, babe, and she was like and
she was like picking some sourdough bread and then she
was like, these are sort of the rings that I like.
And again he took that information. But I do think
(16:08):
that maybe she wasn't like this is the ring because
I want I think that tailor is a romantic and
maybe she wants that like moment where she sees the ring. Now.
I was also that way. I was that way. I
was like, I don't I want the guy to pick
out the ring. And then what happened is is I
had boyfriends the pic jewelry for me and some of
(16:31):
them that go not well. And so by the time
I was with Matt and he I knew that that
I had a kid with him. Hello, we're locked in, baby.
I was like, this is the exact ring that I want.
This is the diameter to cart, add to cart. It's
in the cart waiting, just press it's just press send.
(16:54):
Here's like totally, did you pick out your own engagement ring?
Speaker 2 (16:59):
I did not pick it out. I had ideas. I
really loved, like a certain cut. I loved a cushion cut,
and it was and so I sort of said, like,
this is what I really like. And there was a
jeweler named Martin Katz who I really loved all the
stuff that he did, and so that was sort of
(17:19):
the direction.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
But then that was all Christopher, Oh my god, good job.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Can we confirm iHeart? Can we confirm where she got
the ring from?
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Does anyone know who the designer is?
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Rumor has it? I saw that Tiffany was trending, but
I know that Stephanie Gottlieb has has designed her jewelry before.
So I would love a ring confirmation while we're doing this,
And just for.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Clarity, I'm going to give you all the credit. Camilla
was like, hello, all, no to all on the text
chain with everyone, we need to do an episode asap
right now.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Yes, within I think it. I think it had been
ten minutes and I was like this is happening. Every
plan we had was trash to me.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Oh gosh. Whatever we had to talk about before it
was lame.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
New York based jeweler Kindred Art of Food Sack Artifacts,
fine jewelry. I had seen Tiffany Trending maybe okay, I
guess not you Tiffany Sting. What was she wearing? We
do know what she was wearing Kindred Lubick oh, and
reportedly collaborated with Travis.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
I think I was right, Yes, you were Okay, Taylor,
what did she wear?
Speaker 2 (18:31):
The fact which sort of on brand with the fact
that my girl showed me last night I finally saw
K pop demon Hunters. Oh, and the band in there
is Countricks, So I mean Unterricks. Artifacts were just just saying.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Yeah, yeah, have you heard of this jeweler before.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
No, I've never heard of this jeweler before.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
This jeweler is about to make five billion dollars because
everyone's going to be buying jewelry from them. Okay, Taylor
war a three and ninety eight dollars Pence dried Polo
Rafflauren Holt her dress with gold accessories and tan sandals
for the ring reveal.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
I'm going to guess that Polo Rafflauren has already sold
out of that dress. What did you want it?
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Well, I just realized like maybe I wanted I don't know.
Now it's this is we're on here, we need to
log off. Okay, if you knew.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
That you were getting in that see hmmm.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Like if I was in charge of my own proposal,
what would I do?
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Yeah, I mean I guess if you don't know, then you're.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Well, I didn't know, did you? Did you know when
your proposal was happening? I had I did not know.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
No, neither did I.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
If I could plant myself, I'm a sucker for the beach. Yeah,
I love the ocean. There's something so romantic about the ocean.
But I got married by the ocean. So that worked out,
and that did a really really adorable proposal. But we
had a kid. It's a little bit different, like we
you know, there was no like let's go off to
(20:02):
Cabo and you know, it was like she needs burping.
Oh my god, wait, breaking news, breaking news, we're getting
what is it?
Speaker 2 (20:09):
What is the engagement dress?
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Sold out in twenty minutes?
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Yeah, see I told you what.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Yeah, By the way, they didn't even care if it
was in their size. Who cares what size it is?
Speaker 1 (20:20):
No, just get it. You just get it. I'm suddenly
I'm a triple zero, and I can I can add
material to that.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Yeah, so we do. So, speaking of breaking news, does
anyone have an actual exact date that they really did
get engaged? And then who are these pictures coming from?
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
I have a lot of questions about this. We need
the exact date because I the first thing I did
is because I know Taylor like loves a date. Right,
It's like very it's all like very symbolic. Is I
looked at the date and I was like trying to
figure out, like is this plus this thirteen? You know,
like if you divide this by a certain know. I
(21:00):
was doing all and I couldn't figure it out. But
clearly it's not the date. It's not the date.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
I wonder if we'll know the date.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Maybe the date was like, no, I know, that's more
than two weeks ago. I was to say, eight eight. Wait,
should we do a little prediction. Let's do a pop prediction.
I think the date was eight eight.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
I mean that would be a great one. Eight eight
twenty five on eight plus eight, sixteen plus five, twenty one.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
And twenty one.
Speaker 7 (21:31):
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Speaker 2 (21:31):
Twenty two is a song?
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Yeah yeah, okay, give me a date prediction and then
we could do like a twenty dollars bet okay?
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Ooh what if they got engaged? Hello, you know what
I'm gonna say on your birthday? Bday?
Speaker 1 (21:44):
Oh, this is the most LEO moment that we've had
in a while from you.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Hey, listen, we didn't do it a whole episode about
my birthday.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Sot us pict your own birthday for the date.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
If I find out they got engaged on my birthday,
I will be so happy to share that very special,
very very special okay, very special date with them.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Yeah you will. And also I talked to you yesterday
and I said, what did I say? I mean, I
want to say yesterday I talked to you. I called
you immediately and I said, I think that you're going
to get invited to the wedding.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
And I was surprised that you said this because that
would have to be a very very large wedding. I
am not on the inner circle.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
Well, I mean, if you're getting personal letters, are you
outer circle? How many outer circles are getting letters.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Well, here's the question. Do you think we haven't had
this level of wedding in a very long time in
our in our culture, right, Like, this is royalty. This
is a major, major wedding that's going to happen, and
everybody's going to be wanting to know when and where
and which. Of course, also is annoying because it'll it'll
make people go bonkers and act like ding dongs and
(22:57):
try and ruin things for them, And I'm not for
that at all. But my guess is, I mean, who
knows you guys, they clearly know how to pull things off.
I mean maybe they're already married. Maybe they got engaged
and then married.
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Speaker 1 (24:27):
Okay, here's what I think we need to do with
our time remaining. I think we need to start guessing
how big do we think this wedding is going to be?
Big or small?
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Where do we think it's going to.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
Be and where do we think it's going to be
And what kind of style of dress do we think
she's gonna wear.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
I think it's going to be big.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
You do your thinking big princess dress?
Speaker 2 (24:48):
I think big.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
I think so too, super long veil.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
I think they'll definitely be costume changes. Yes, what music
we'll be playing?
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Okay, okay, okay, okay, we have so many questions. Okay,
so we've agreed. Okay, so first off, we agree on
a giant princess dress, long veil. I'm thinking like five
mile long veil.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Yes, I am. And by the way, this is all
making me think there's no world in which you can
have a giant dress and a long veil and have
like twenty people. So it's definitely gonna have to be
a big wedding.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Okay, I think it's gonna be two hundred people, that's
my guess. You think more or less?
Speaker 7 (25:24):
Maybe more, Jessica, if I really think that, maybe you
could be invited, in which case you need a plus one.
And then sort of what I'm feeling is is like
I'm also invited and that we're maybe in the front row.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
And I didn't even want to be, but I'm like,
I was like, shouldn't your mom be here? And they're like,
Travis is like, no, don't worry. This is the this
is the super Kamila jes this is He's like no family, family,
your family. And I'm like, oh my god, Travis, stop, Okay, fine, are.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
They going to get married outside in the church?
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Okay, I think they're gonna get married outside. I do
feel like Rhode Island. I think she may have sold
that home. I'm not sure, but I feel like it's
gonna be. If she hadn't sold sold that home, I
would think that it was going to be like a
road island, like looking out on the bluff kind of wedding,
so many flowers. Whoever is the floor of my wedding?
(26:28):
You can retire after this wedding. That's my connection.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Yeah. Yeah, I think it's going to be like a
fairy tale.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
It's gonna be like a fairy tale. Okay, name one
person who think is going to be a bridesmaid.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Oh g I think the Higham sisters are Oh yeah,
you know, I feel like they're front in front.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
She's going to be a bridesmaid. Maybe yeah, the Cravats
bridesmaid Yeah yeah, yeah, possible, possible. And me and you
and then you and I and then we're also bribe
me so weird. We've never met. But Taylor's like, actually
it's time. Yeah, I'm feeling Rhode Island vibes.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Okay, I mean it certainly could be. I think it
would be, Oh my gosh. I also think that maybe
they're they're definitely gonna have to control whatever space they
get married in. So it's gonna have to be like
a very tight security situation. Like I'm thinking, like you know,
presidential level security, Like there's definitely some SWAT teams and
(27:30):
some like Navy seals. Can we do that for Taylor?
I mean, I feel that she's you know, an American.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
She's yeah, she's our princess. She's the people's princess, she's.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
The people's friends exactly. She's the people's princess. And she
who self identifies as an English teacher, So that makes
her even cooler in my mind. So I think that
we just need to make sure that she's okay. So
and she's taking care of on this very special day.
I bet you was gonna be at some private residence.
I bet you it's gonna be a lot of people,
(27:59):
and I think it's to be a lot of I
hope it's a lot of containment, because yeah, I don't know.
I mean there's all this talk about Carolyn is At
Kennedy and John F.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Kennedy, Yeah, because of the show.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
Yeah yeah, and they pulled off their wedding, they pulled
up they were they couldn't have been more famous, those
two and they pulled off their wedding on some island
off the coast of you know, Georgia or I think
or South Carolina, North Carolina. So I think they just
if you want to, I think you can figure it out.
But then it would have to be smaller, and then
I think maybe the big dread Listen, she's Taylor. She
could do whatever she wants. Oh, her mom is going
(28:34):
to be so emotional.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
Okay, let me ask you this question. If you're a
Taylor Swift and you're getting married, do you play one
of your own songs?
Speaker 7 (28:42):
No?
Speaker 2 (28:42):
But I definitely think she's going to play a song
that she wrote for the first time and sing to him.
Don't you think, Jessica stop it?
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Like Sarah Nadeham where at the end of the aisle
at the party where.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
She's Taylor, and then maybe he sings back, he sings
to her too, stop it. I wonder if he can sing.
Does anyone know we don't know? We know he can dance,
because I we do know.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
He can dance. He's got some moves. I like it.
Here's what I Here's what I like about this wedding too.
Travis has like pretty unique style, like he cares right
like he's he shows up. So I don't know if
Travis is gonna go for like a regular suit. I
think there's gonna be some flair.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
Oh something interesting. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
I don't know in what way. I'm not saying it's
gonna I'm not saying it's gonna be like's.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Gonna be a Gucci t Yeah, like just there's gonna be.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
A little yes, I well, I don't know about different colors,
but I feel like he's gonna have like some flare
to his suit.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
I think there's gonna be a lot of dancing there.
There's be a lot of dancing. I think that wedding
is gonna go all night long.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Can I tell you something? If I was heard though
that I would be like this, this is my one
condition that I need from you, Travis. I love you,
I really do, because you love our girl and I
really love you. But when he just has the stash,
I don't I mean for the wedding, it's just a
stash situation. It's gotta go.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
You're talking about the mustache. The facial hair needs to
be gone.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
Yeah, I don't mind like the beard or like clean shaven,
but like the like a handlebar anything like.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
So yesterday I went to CBS with the girls. They
really love going to CBS. I'm like, wow, we're going
shopping at the CFS. They love a CBS run. We're
in CBS and we actually just were perusing the aisles
and Josie goes, oh, hey, is hey Victor? And I
was like what? And I looked to my left and
do you know that Travis Kelce is the face on
(30:42):
one of those like beard or hair dying grooming kids. No,
and then Victor's on this other show she really likes
on Disney Plus Travis. Travis's face on I am great. Yeah.
And it was clean shaven, there was no stash.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Yeah yeah. Would you be okay with the stash for
the wedding or do you think he needs to like
elude it a little bit?
Speaker 4 (31:04):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (31:04):
I think you go for classic for a wedding, which
is what clean shaven or a bear?
Speaker 2 (31:09):
I think clean or maybe just I mean like, yeah,
you go like a little bit. Maybe if that's little scruff.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
I love like a sexy scruff.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
A little scruff. Yeah, but also you know you're gonna
be smooching a lot.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Oh yeah, that's true. You got to think about the smooch.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
Yeah, oh you think there'll be a honeymoon?
Speaker 1 (31:24):
Oh my god, I just got so excited. See this
is what's this is what? What? What is it doing
to us? Everybody online, they're people crying. It's like we've
never really I mean, you've met Taylor. I've never met
Taylor Swift. And I feel like my cousin's getting married.
I love that.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
And you know what, I think that she would love that.
I think that that's the whole point, right, that you
share these stories and and you and you and you
let in your audience so that you feel like you're
same same because we all are the same. We're all
obviously it's are different, but I mean we all have
(32:02):
hearts and souls and yeah, she speaks to him.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
I think it's also because we've all been on the
ride with her through like public breakups. Yeah, you know,
like all the things, the scarf. I mean, like we
we've been there.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
Plus she does that thing that sometimes you tell me
to do, and it's such a good advice and I
pass it on. Is that whole like behave like the
leading lady in your own life. She is definitely the
leading lady in her own life like she is, I know.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
And it's like he's the perfect co star. I don't
mean to talk to talk about him like he's a
co star, but like he kind of is partner.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
He's a great and he's a great leading man.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
He's a great leading man for this. Yes, God, you
know what someone mentioned And I literally almost screamed in
my car because I was driving home when I heard
the news. I was so stressed out. Yeah, I was like,
oh my god, I need to get home. You need
to look at the ring. And someone was like, babies
will calm net And I literally, Jessica, when I thought
(33:02):
about a little or not a little, because Travis is
huge a Travis Taylor.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
A cute baby, I cannot cute baby.
Speaker 4 (33:15):
I can't not.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
I know, getting ahead of ourselves, Jessica. We I mean literally,
they just got engaged, were already talking about babies. That's
what happens, I know, I know. Here's what we want
to hear from you guys in the comments. Where do
you think they're getting married?
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Yeah? What date do you think they got engaged?
Speaker 1 (33:32):
Yes? What kind of dress she's wearing? What date it's
going to be a very special date?
Speaker 2 (33:39):
How long do you think that you should stay engaged.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
I I'm giving them a year.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
I think yeah, next time a year or under. Over
a year starts to.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
Like hm, no, no, no, no, I think it's going to
be well. Honestly, they're up against football season, so don't
ask me when that takes a break rude.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
And she's an album coming out. There's a lot of life.
I don't think my other prediction, I don't think any
of their life is going too slow because they're getting married.
I think that that's the thing that they really like
you about each other, is that they just keep like it.
They just enhance each other's lives, and so I think
they're just going to keep on going. Okay, the football
(34:17):
season does, and after the super Bowl, which is in
early February, so it could be a Valentine's Day.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
Wedding, Jess, It's not a lot of time for us
to get dresses. Can you like email her or something,
because like, I just need a sion.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
I just need to be prepped.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
I just need to be prepped. I don't know what
I'm wearing.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
Okay, you guys, I have to say I wish them
a lifetime of happiness. I'm so excited for them. I
hope that they that all their dreams come true, and
I hope that people give them the space and and
and and time to you know, enjoy all this. Yes,
and then it also support and love. Oh my god,
(34:59):
it's so exciting.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
Okay, you guys, thank you for joining us.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
An emergency.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
Yes, we got on here real fast, as fast as
we could. Jessica, this is I love all of this.
This will not be the end of this conversation. I'm
sure as the next few months go on, we're going
to hear more and more and we'll be back on
here for emergency debriefing.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Yes we will, Yes we will.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
But for now, let's call it the end of the episode.
Call It What It Is with Jessica Capshaw and Camille Luddington,
an iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Well, Hello, Hello, Hello.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Hello Call It crew, and welcome to another episode of
Call It What It Is. Taylor Swift's Engagement Episode Edition.
I couldn't, Like I was trying to think of like
a fun way to like intro it, but like I
just we got to dive in.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Well, I think we're in our engagement era. Would be
on brand, We're.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
In the engagement era. Okay, you have seen them together
in person? I have, yes. Did you think like this
the vibes were endgame? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (00:54):
I kind of, yeah, I did. I did. They're just
you know what, they're just what I was actually sort
of why. What I always marvel at about her is
that she's doing She's performing in a way that feels
like herculean, Like you, like no one could perform like that.
Like the way she performs, how she performs, the duration
(01:16):
of performance, all of it is just so heroic. And
you would think that that would take I mean, I
know it does take a super huge amount of effort,
but she makes it look so easy. And I think
that that's the thing that I noticed in my sliver
of time with them. Yeah, was the easiness. And my
guess is, you know, it's well, it's a huge life
(01:38):
and she's, you know, stepping off stage after doing a
three hour concert, and he just he was so warm
and smiley and he was so nice to my daughter.
So of course that made me like you more. And
so yeah, yeah, so yeah, endgame, endgame. I'm really glad
they got into the end zone.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
I yeah, thank god, I am. I don't I got
a little like I was watching the New Heights. Now,
I don't know if they were engaged when New Heights
happened the way that's new.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Information to me. Wait, this didn't just happen.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
And then I got to know this happened like a
couple of weeks ago. But when I was watching New Heights,
I was like they felt engage y. To me, it
was a vibe that was like they're they're at that
like most comfortable point, and he was so adoring of
her and their body language. I was like, it's it's
(02:26):
either happened and we don't know about it, or it's coming,
is what I thought. Yeah, so I basically killed it
what it is?
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Yeah you called it?
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Oh yeah, confirmed Travis's father confirmed the proposal took place
two weeks ago.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Wow. Okay, So here's my question for you. Sure, maybe
more than any other person of note, And that's being
really conservative calling her a person of note really right,
Like she might be one of the most the biggest
and most famous people on the planet. I feel like
more than any other person her. I mean, don't think
(03:02):
there's anyone else like her, but I feel like she's
sort of given whoever's going to ask her to marry them,
like the roadmap, Like, do you think that he Do
you think he followed her directions? Do you think he improvised?
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Do you say I was thinking about this, because like
when what I was thinking about is I would be
terrified to propose to Taylor Swift?
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Say why? Say why?
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Okay? Because I feel like she is a diehard romantic,
which I understand I can relate to, and she's very
public publicly, you know, shared these relationships with us for
music and these breakups, and you know that there are
millions of people rooting for this perfect happy ending for her.
(03:52):
And now you're going to be the guy that does
the proposal. That it's not just Travis would know it's
not just about Taylor, right, It is, of course in
the moment, but that every swifty is going to be
examining all the pictures and being like, is this Taylor?
Like is this what she would have wanted? Just like
you said, so the pressure is so enormous. But I
(04:15):
think looking at these pictures, I think he killed it
it Like it's so fairytale, enchanted that he did so good.
I mean, I don't know, is tree Paint out there
helping him? I don't like who was he getting advice from?
Like who did he call?
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Well?
Speaker 2 (04:32):
I think also we get to imagine, right, I think
we just get to make up the story in our head.
And I guess they'll be parsing out information about how
it went down. But I want to imagine that he
thought of it all on his own, and then knowing
her as well as he did, that he that he
was delivering exactly what she wanted. I mean, isn't that
the whole point of an engagement? Right? Like, you're you're
(04:55):
meant to be whoever you're getting, whoever you're proposing to.
You're not meant to think about how you would like
to be proposed to. You're meant to think about how
they would like to be proposed to. I mean, it
looks pretty pretty damn grand.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
It looks so grand. It looks I read I don't
know if this is true, but I read that he's
that they were like supposed to be going out for dinner,
and that's what she thought she was going out for,
and he was like, let's go have wine in this
little area and he took her back there and that's when.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Under this massive art of the most gorgeous flowers in
the world. This isn't.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Yes, totally, I'm assuming that that was like I don't
know who was involved with that, but that was I'm
assuming that's not the usual wine garden.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Yes, a little pre dinner.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
It's funny though, because swifties have like zoomed in on
her nails, because you know, if a proposal's coming, you're
gonna get your nails done right, And they zoomed on
her nails, and her nails look really natural, like they're
not done at all, and so that's become their theory
as to why she really did not expect it. This day.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Interesting. There's such sleuths, I know, like a bunch of
little pis.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Okay, Taylor likened Travis's proposal efforts to an eighties John
Hughes movie scene referencing say Anything with the boombox moment?
Is there a better compliment? Isn't that what we all want?
We want to say Anything moment?
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Oh my gosh, John Cusack as Lloyd Dobbler in that
movie when he goes to her and ione sky is
up in that window and he's.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Got that with the trench coat, and then yeah, that's also.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
So Taylor, Like I feel like that, you know, she
she just she oozes and seems like she has such
a big heart and so much love and so much
passion and excitement for stuff. That to be with someone
who also can be like near that or has access
to that same strength of emotion is so cool, and
(06:56):
that like loves her in that way. Yes, of course
she would want an eighties yes bus moment.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
I also love that we all feel part of this story,
the beginnings, the origin of this romance, like we all.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Knew well, let's talk about that for a second.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Okay, So he knew that he had gone to the concert.
He had not like they talked with someone new heights.
He was not in like some special area. He was
not in the tents right that you can be in.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Uh huh, No, no VIP treatment for.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Him, No VIP. He was out. He was out in
the crowd. He'd made his friendship bracelets and he was
hoping that they would get to her. And then he
complained that it, you know, it didn't really work out
on on the on his podcast. I think I think
it's so romantic.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
I know, okay, but so so for for all the
people that in in in they are deeply invested in football.
Wasn't there a whole lot of talk about how it
was like it was not real and like that they
were that they were, you know, creating some like attention
because of football season everything else. I'm like, weren't they
dating for a long time before they actually they were?
(08:03):
So isn't that just doesn't I mean, no, they were
really dating.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
I think if you're in the public eye that there's
always going to be some conspiracy theory that like of
all that.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Stuff, right, they just want to talk about something.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Yeah, And I have to say that when I saw
these pictures, I was like, this is ridiculous. This could
be like an album cover, like it really she wrote
like English. Her caption was like English teacher, your English teacher,
and your gym teacher are getting married. And I'm like, oh,
it looks to me like the football dude and like
the girlm and like in the bleachers with the T
(08:41):
shirt like a song guy, Like what's happening?
Speaker 2 (08:43):
I know, I know, I know, I know there's something
there is there's something I mean, which is just sounds
ridiculous as I'm saying out loud, but there's something so
accessible about them. There's something that I knowing, you know
that they would be your English teacher or your gym teacher,
even though no, no.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
No, no, they're definitely not. They're definitely not. Did you
know that her engagement post garnered one point two million likes?
Speaker 2 (09:09):
It's crazy and then like and then exponentially more since then.
I don't know what it's that now, but it's a lot.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Wild, I know, But you know what was it so sweet?
Speaker 2 (09:17):
What what Travis's dad said?
Speaker 1 (09:19):
What did he say?
Speaker 2 (09:20):
He said that the source of Travis's happiness is Taylor?
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Oh my god, I gotta tell you if that if
someone said that about Hayden, I would like melt. But
I think you can see it too, right, Like he's
giddy for her.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
I know, I know, I know, and you know, and
I also love. I love how much they root each
other on in their professions. Like I know, they just
look like they are so proud of each other, and
obviously we get to see them, you know, celebrating it.
But when she's at his game or when he's at
her concert, there's just like such joy.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
Yeah.
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Speaker 1 (11:33):
You know, what I think will work in their favor
is that they're obviously incredibly talented, like top of the
class situation, and both their professions right, but they're in
completely different professions. And so I think that that any
like jealousy or competitiveness that could come into, you know,
like leak into a relationship like that when people are
(11:56):
that big stars, you know, celebrities, I feel like it
won't happen because it's just so different. Yeah, and I'm
glad that she's not with Is it just me personally.
I'm personally glad that she's not with another singer, she's
not with an actor. Even I'm glad that she's with
someone that's like, I'm glad she's with the football star.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
I know, I know, you know, when she announced her
new album, not like I ever stopped listening to her,
but I think, you know, you everything goes in like
ebbs and flows, and I was, actually, I've been listening
to a lot of country.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Yeah, of course you are.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
And when she announced her album, I was like cleaning
up my apartment and you know, listening to music. And
I put just like the Taylor Swift radio on and
I got full back in, full back in, and then
I get in the car and I put it on.
I'm like truly, and I'm like, it's just she's just
such an incredible storyteller. And now I wonder, like, is
(12:56):
her new I mean, I'm guessing that a lot of
her new album will be a.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Bad Well That's what I'm so excited about, because I
feel like we've had, like we've had some breakup albums,
and I so appreciate them. Okay, there's some bangers in
those albums, for sure, but I like the happy tailor.
I'm in love and engaged in all the things I
want that.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Yeah, I feel like she's earned it.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Okay, let's get into some of the details the ring.
What did you think when you first saw the ring? Damn,
it's really big. I saw someone online say, a journalist
say that they think that it's worth like two to
three million dollars stop it. Yes, I'm not kidding.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
I heard one and then my girls were chatche be
teeing it.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Oh my god, so smart. What did chat cheby te say?
We don't want to know?
Speaker 2 (13:47):
You know what? I think Chat was wrong because Chat
was like the lowest estimation. It was like half a
million dollars. Well, I'm acting like that's just like a
normal amount of money to.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Be Yeah, we're like, no, Chat, that's really cheap. Come on, Chat.
I saw it and I was like, damn, it's huge.
But and I know everyone's saying this, but I just
have to like get on the bandwagon.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
It's so Taylor, yeah, because it's kind of vintag but
like romantic.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
I know, I know, do you think? And I want
to know what you did because they'll tell you what
I did. Do you think, Taylor and Travis had this
conversation and she was like, this is the exact ring,
oh that I want?
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Oh gosh, I don't know what I think. That's such
a great question.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Is it? Like do we think that she like Pinterest
a bunch of pictures and she was like, here's the inspo?
Or do you think she was like this is this?
Is it? It's hard because the Taylor that we all
know is a perfectionist planner of all the things and
an engagement ring hopefully you're only getting one. Don't you
(14:57):
think that she kind of wants a hand in it?
It would be interesting if she was completely hands off,
and if she was, he nailed it somehow.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Yeah, ooh, I want to know.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Now.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
I'm trying to think, hold on, I just need I
need a moment of silence to think about. Okay, But
I think my answer is okay, hold on, I'm channeling
to him.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
I have, I have what I think my answer is,
but I want to hear yours first.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
I think he did it on his own.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
No answer.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
I think he looks and listens. I think he's a
smart partner. I think he likely had an idea of
what she would like. But I'm guessing that he was
that he took all that information, synthesized it, and then
went out and got the ring that he thought that
she would love the most. That's my answer. I'm sticking with.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
It, Okay, I like it. I have a similar answer.
I think that she gave him. I think they're probably
this is what I'm imagining. There was a conversation and
Travis was like, hey, babe, and she was like and
she was like picking some sourdough bread and then she
was like, these are sort of the rings that I like.
And again he took that information. But I do think
(16:08):
that maybe she wasn't like this is the ring because
I want I think that tailor is a romantic and
maybe she wants that like moment where she sees the ring. Now.
I was also that way. I was that way. I
was like, I don't I want the guy to pick
out the ring. And then what happened is is I
had boyfriends the pic jewelry for me and some of
(16:31):
them that go not well. And so by the time
I was with Matt and he I knew that that
I had a kid with him. Hello, we're locked in, baby.
I was like, this is the exact ring that I want.
This is the diameter to cart, add to cart. It's
in the cart waiting, just press it's just press send.
(16:54):
Here's like totally, did you pick out your own engagement ring?
Speaker 2 (16:59):
I did not pick it out. I had ideas. I
really loved, like a certain cut. I loved a cushion cut,
and it was and so I sort of said, like,
this is what I really like. And there was a
jeweler named Martin Katz who I really loved all the
stuff that he did, and so that was sort of
(17:19):
the direction.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
But then that was all Christopher, Oh my god, good job.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Can we confirm iHeart? Can we confirm where she got
the ring from?
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Does anyone know who the designer is?
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Rumor has it? I saw that Tiffany was trending, but
I know that Stephanie Gottlieb has has designed her jewelry before.
So I would love a ring confirmation while we're doing this,
And just for.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Clarity, I'm going to give you all the credit. Camilla
was like, hello, all, no to all on the text
chain with everyone, we need to do an episode asap
right now.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Yes, within I think it. I think it had been
ten minutes and I was like this is happening. Every
plan we had was trash to me.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Oh gosh. Whatever we had to talk about before it
was lame.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
New York based jeweler Kindred Art of Food Sack Artifacts,
fine jewelry. I had seen Tiffany Trending maybe okay, I
guess not you Tiffany Sting. What was she wearing? We
do know what she was wearing Kindred Lubick oh, and
reportedly collaborated with Travis.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
I think I was right, Yes, you were Okay, Taylor,
what did she wear?
Speaker 2 (18:31):
The fact which sort of on brand with the fact
that my girl showed me last night I finally saw
K pop demon Hunters. Oh, and the band in there
is Countricks, So I mean Unterricks. Artifacts were just just saying.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Yeah, yeah, have you heard of this jeweler before.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
No, I've never heard of this jeweler before.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
This jeweler is about to make five billion dollars because
everyone's going to be buying jewelry from them. Okay, Taylor
war a three and ninety eight dollars Pence dried Polo
Rafflauren Holt her dress with gold accessories and tan sandals
for the ring reveal.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
I'm going to guess that Polo Rafflauren has already sold
out of that dress. What did you want it?
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Well, I just realized like maybe I wanted I don't know.
Now it's this is we're on here, we need to
log off. Okay, if you knew.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
That you were getting in that see hmmm.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Like if I was in charge of my own proposal,
what would I do?
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Yeah, I mean I guess if you don't know, then you're.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Well, I didn't know, did you? Did you know when
your proposal was happening? I had I did not know.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
No, neither did I.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
If I could plant myself, I'm a sucker for the beach. Yeah,
I love the ocean. There's something so romantic about the ocean.
But I got married by the ocean. So that worked out,
and that did a really really adorable proposal. But we
had a kid. It's a little bit different, like we
you know, there was no like let's go off to
(20:02):
Cabo and you know, it was like she needs burping.
Oh my god, wait, breaking news, breaking news, we're getting
what is it?
Speaker 2 (20:09):
What is the engagement dress?
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Sold out in twenty minutes?
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Yeah, see I told you what.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Yeah, By the way, they didn't even care if it
was in their size. Who cares what size it is?
Speaker 1 (20:20):
No, just get it. You just get it. I'm suddenly
I'm a triple zero, and I can I can add
material to that.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Yeah, so we do. So, speaking of breaking news, does
anyone have an actual exact date that they really did
get engaged? And then who are these pictures coming from?
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
I have a lot of questions about this. We need
the exact date because I the first thing I did
is because I know Taylor like loves a date. Right,
It's like very it's all like very symbolic. Is I
looked at the date and I was like trying to
figure out, like is this plus this thirteen? You know,
like if you divide this by a certain know. I
(21:00):
was doing all and I couldn't figure it out. But
clearly it's not the date. It's not the date.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
I wonder if we'll know the date.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Maybe the date was like, no, I know, that's more
than two weeks ago. I was to say, eight eight. Wait,
should we do a little prediction. Let's do a pop prediction.
I think the date was eight eight.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
I mean that would be a great one. Eight eight
twenty five on eight plus eight, sixteen plus five, twenty one.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
And twenty one.
Speaker 7 (21:31):
No.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Twenty two is a song?
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Yeah yeah, okay, give me a date prediction and then
we could do like a twenty dollars bet okay?
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Ooh what if they got engaged? Hello, you know what
I'm gonna say on your birthday? Bday?
Speaker 1 (21:44):
Oh, this is the most LEO moment that we've had
in a while from you.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Hey, listen, we didn't do it a whole episode about
my birthday.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Sot us pict your own birthday for the date.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
If I find out they got engaged on my birthday,
I will be so happy to share that very special,
very very special okay, very special date with them.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Yeah you will. And also I talked to you yesterday
and I said, what did I say? I mean, I
want to say yesterday I talked to you. I called
you immediately and I said, I think that you're going
to get invited to the wedding.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
And I was surprised that you said this because that
would have to be a very very large wedding. I
am not on the inner circle.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
Well, I mean, if you're getting personal letters, are you
outer circle? How many outer circles are getting letters.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Well, here's the question. Do you think we haven't had
this level of wedding in a very long time in
our in our culture, right, Like, this is royalty. This
is a major, major wedding that's going to happen, and
everybody's going to be wanting to know when and where
and which. Of course, also is annoying because it'll it'll
make people go bonkers and act like ding dongs and
(22:57):
try and ruin things for them, And I'm not for
that at all. But my guess is, I mean, who
knows you guys, they clearly know how to pull things off.
I mean maybe they're already married. Maybe they got engaged
and then married.
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Speaker 1 (24:27):
Okay, here's what I think we need to do with
our time remaining. I think we need to start guessing
how big do we think this wedding is going to be?
Big or small?
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Where do we think it's going to.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
Be and where do we think it's going to be
And what kind of style of dress do we think
she's gonna wear.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
I think it's going to be big.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
You do your thinking big princess dress?
Speaker 2 (24:48):
I think big.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
I think so too, super long veil.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
I think they'll definitely be costume changes. Yes, what music
we'll be playing?
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Okay, okay, okay, okay, we have so many questions. Okay,
so we've agreed. Okay, so first off, we agree on
a giant princess dress, long veil. I'm thinking like five
mile long veil.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Yes, I am. And by the way, this is all
making me think there's no world in which you can
have a giant dress and a long veil and have
like twenty people. So it's definitely gonna have to be
a big wedding.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Okay, I think it's gonna be two hundred people, that's
my guess. You think more or less?
Speaker 7 (25:24):
Maybe more, Jessica, if I really think that, maybe you
could be invited, in which case you need a plus one.
And then sort of what I'm feeling is is like
I'm also invited and that we're maybe in the front row.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
And I didn't even want to be, but I'm like,
I was like, shouldn't your mom be here? And they're like,
Travis is like, no, don't worry. This is the this
is the super Kamila jes this is He's like no family, family,
your family. And I'm like, oh my god, Travis, stop, Okay, fine, are.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
They going to get married outside in the church?
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Okay, I think they're gonna get married outside. I do
feel like Rhode Island. I think she may have sold
that home. I'm not sure, but I feel like it's
gonna be. If she hadn't sold sold that home, I
would think that it was going to be like a
road island, like looking out on the bluff kind of wedding,
so many flowers. Whoever is the floor of my wedding?
(26:28):
You can retire after this wedding. That's my connection.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Yeah. Yeah, I think it's going to be like a
fairy tale.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
It's gonna be like a fairy tale. Okay, name one
person who think is going to be a bridesmaid.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Oh g I think the Higham sisters are Oh yeah,
you know, I feel like they're front in front.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
She's going to be a bridesmaid. Maybe yeah, the Cravats
bridesmaid Yeah yeah, yeah, possible, possible. And me and you
and then you and I and then we're also bribe
me so weird. We've never met. But Taylor's like, actually
it's time. Yeah, I'm feeling Rhode Island vibes.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Okay, I mean it certainly could be. I think it
would be, Oh my gosh. I also think that maybe
they're they're definitely gonna have to control whatever space they
get married in. So it's gonna have to be like
a very tight security situation. Like I'm thinking, like you know,
presidential level security, Like there's definitely some SWAT teams and
(27:30):
some like Navy seals. Can we do that for Taylor?
I mean, I feel that she's you know, an American.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
She's yeah, she's our princess. She's the people's princess, she's.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
The people's friends exactly. She's the people's princess. And she
who self identifies as an English teacher, So that makes
her even cooler in my mind. So I think that
we just need to make sure that she's okay. So
and she's taking care of on this very special day.
I bet you was gonna be at some private residence.
I bet you it's gonna be a lot of people,
(27:59):
and I think it's to be a lot of I
hope it's a lot of containment, because yeah, I don't know.
I mean there's all this talk about Carolyn is At
Kennedy and John F.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Kennedy, Yeah, because of the show.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
Yeah yeah, and they pulled off their wedding, they pulled
up they were they couldn't have been more famous, those
two and they pulled off their wedding on some island
off the coast of you know, Georgia or I think
or South Carolina, North Carolina. So I think they just
if you want to, I think you can figure it out.
But then it would have to be smaller, and then
I think maybe the big dread Listen, she's Taylor. She
could do whatever she wants. Oh, her mom is going
(28:34):
to be so emotional.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
Okay, let me ask you this question. If you're a
Taylor Swift and you're getting married, do you play one
of your own songs?
Speaker 7 (28:42):
No?
Speaker 2 (28:42):
But I definitely think she's going to play a song
that she wrote for the first time and sing to him.
Don't you think, Jessica stop it?
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Like Sarah Nadeham where at the end of the aisle
at the party where.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
She's Taylor, and then maybe he sings back, he sings
to her too, stop it. I wonder if he can sing.
Does anyone know we don't know? We know he can dance,
because I we do know.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
He can dance. He's got some moves. I like it.
Here's what I Here's what I like about this wedding too.
Travis has like pretty unique style, like he cares right
like he's he shows up. So I don't know if
Travis is gonna go for like a regular suit. I
think there's gonna be some flair.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
Oh something interesting. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
I don't know in what way. I'm not saying it's
gonna I'm not saying it's gonna be like's.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Gonna be a Gucci t Yeah, like just there's gonna be.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
A little yes, I well, I don't know about different colors,
but I feel like he's gonna have like some flare
to his suit.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
I think there's gonna be a lot of dancing there.
There's be a lot of dancing. I think that wedding
is gonna go all night long.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Can I tell you something? If I was heard though
that I would be like this, this is my one
condition that I need from you, Travis. I love you,
I really do, because you love our girl and I
really love you. But when he just has the stash,
I don't I mean for the wedding, it's just a
stash situation. It's gotta go.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
You're talking about the mustache. The facial hair needs to
be gone.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
Yeah, I don't mind like the beard or like clean shaven,
but like the like a handlebar anything like.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
So yesterday I went to CBS with the girls. They
really love going to CBS. I'm like, wow, we're going
shopping at the CFS. They love a CBS run. We're
in CBS and we actually just were perusing the aisles
and Josie goes, oh, hey, is hey Victor? And I
was like what? And I looked to my left and
do you know that Travis Kelce is the face on
(30:42):
one of those like beard or hair dying grooming kids. No,
and then Victor's on this other show she really likes
on Disney Plus Travis. Travis's face on I am great. Yeah.
And it was clean shaven, there was no stash.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Yeah yeah. Would you be okay with the stash for
the wedding or do you think he needs to like
elude it a little bit?
Speaker 4 (31:04):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (31:04):
I think you go for classic for a wedding, which
is what clean shaven or a bear?
Speaker 2 (31:09):
I think clean or maybe just I mean like, yeah,
you go like a little bit. Maybe if that's little scruff.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
I love like a sexy scruff.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
A little scruff. Yeah, but also you know you're gonna
be smooching a lot.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Oh yeah, that's true. You got to think about the smooch.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
Yeah, oh you think there'll be a honeymoon?
Speaker 1 (31:24):
Oh my god, I just got so excited. See this
is what's this is what? What? What is it doing
to us? Everybody online, they're people crying. It's like we've
never really I mean, you've met Taylor. I've never met
Taylor Swift. And I feel like my cousin's getting married.
I love that.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
And you know what, I think that she would love that.
I think that that's the whole point, right, that you
share these stories and and you and you and you
let in your audience so that you feel like you're
same same because we all are the same. We're all
obviously it's are different, but I mean we all have
(32:02):
hearts and souls and yeah, she speaks to him.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
I think it's also because we've all been on the
ride with her through like public breakups. Yeah, you know,
like all the things, the scarf. I mean, like we
we've been there.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
Plus she does that thing that sometimes you tell me
to do, and it's such a good advice and I
pass it on. Is that whole like behave like the
leading lady in your own life. She is definitely the
leading lady in her own life like she is, I know.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
And it's like he's the perfect co star. I don't
mean to talk to talk about him like he's a
co star, but like he kind of is partner.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
He's a great and he's a great leading man.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
He's a great leading man for this. Yes, God, you
know what someone mentioned And I literally almost screamed in
my car because I was driving home when I heard
the news. I was so stressed out. Yeah, I was like,
oh my god, I need to get home. You need
to look at the ring. And someone was like, babies
will calm net And I literally, Jessica, when I thought
(33:02):
about a little or not a little, because Travis is
huge a Travis Taylor.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
A cute baby, I cannot cute baby.
Speaker 4 (33:15):
I can't not.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
I know, getting ahead of ourselves, Jessica. We I mean literally,
they just got engaged, were already talking about babies. That's
what happens, I know, I know. Here's what we want
to hear from you guys in the comments. Where do
you think they're getting married?
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Yeah? What date do you think they got engaged?
Speaker 1 (33:32):
Yes? What kind of dress she's wearing? What date it's
going to be a very special date?
Speaker 2 (33:39):
How long do you think that you should stay engaged.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
I I'm giving them a year.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
I think yeah, next time a year or under. Over
a year starts to.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
Like hm, no, no, no, no, I think it's going to
be well. Honestly, they're up against football season, so don't
ask me when that takes a break rude.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
And she's an album coming out. There's a lot of life.
I don't think my other prediction, I don't think any
of their life is going too slow because they're getting married.
I think that that's the thing that they really like
you about each other, is that they just keep like it.
They just enhance each other's lives, and so I think
they're just going to keep on going. Okay, the football
(34:17):
season does, and after the super Bowl, which is in
early February, so it could be a Valentine's Day.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
Wedding, Jess, It's not a lot of time for us
to get dresses. Can you like email her or something,
because like, I just need a sion.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
I just need to be prepped.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
I just need to be prepped. I don't know what
I'm wearing.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
Okay, you guys, I have to say I wish them
a lifetime of happiness. I'm so excited for them. I
hope that they that all their dreams come true, and
I hope that people give them the space and and
and and time to you know, enjoy all this. Yes,
and then it also support and love. Oh my god,
(34:59):
it's so exciting.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
Okay, you guys, thank you for joining us.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
An emergency.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
Yes, we got on here real fast, as fast as
we could. Jessica, this is I love all of this.
This will not be the end of this conversation. I'm
sure as the next few months go on, we're going
to hear more and more and we'll be back on
here for emergency debriefing.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Yes we will, Yes we will.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
But for now, let's call it the end of the episode.
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