Call It with Skylar Astin

Skylar joins the girls to discuss the abrupt ending of his character Todd Eames from Grey’s. Find out what went down and how it was actually supposed to go down! 

And a fan question results in a crash course of a slang phrase we didn’t dare put in writing!

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
Call It what It Is with Jessica Capshaw and Camille Luddington,
an iHeartRadio podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
Well, okay, hello call it crew, Hello, Camilla, Hi, Jessica.

Speaker 3 (00:24):
My favorite time of the week.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
I love it. I love it. I really look forward
to it.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
I think about things all the time where I'm like,
hold that thought, don't even process that thought anymore, wait
to talk about it with Kamila.

Speaker 3 (00:35):
We do. We do this on the phone too, where
we call each other and you'll start telling a story
and I'm like, I don't want to hear it, don't anymore.
We're talking about this on the pod, and I do
feel like I want to start the show by saying,
because I absolutely geeked out. Yahoo just had this little release,
this article saying that they're top They're six top celebrity

(01:00):
podcasts that they're really enjoying listen to listening.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
And no, well, I think that the exact words were
because I think that it's important to explain why we
felt the power it was the top six celebrity podcast
that we can't stop listening to.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
Yes, can you think of a better compliment?

Speaker 3 (01:19):
I cannot? And I feel like and temmy how you
feel I read it and I felt like it wasn't
just us because our podcast includes This is what I
love so much about this, it includes you guys. Are
call it community, we call it crew, and so you
guys are also part of listening to this podcast. You're

(01:41):
writing us in, you're being vulnerable, we're sharing funny moments,
we're sharing hard moments, and so it's all of us.
I felt like it was an article for us, like
acknowledging all of us, and I just thought that was
so amazing. I geeked out.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
I know, I know, I felt a very big flush
of excitement.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
I was very excited. I also just feel like there's.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
So much more to come, so I can't I can't
wait for the more and more. And I just feel
like the every time we go back to the well
of questions and it's just so there's it's so hard
to pick because all of them are so rich and
interesting and and I just.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
Love them all.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
How's your week, Ben, I'm still you know, I'm feeling
the summer of it all. We've sort of established a
groove though we've got the campser they've been locked in.
We're locked into the camps. Yeah, and then I have
been sort of finding my rhythm and finding my way.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
And I've started working out again.

Speaker 1 (02:42):
And you know, they always tell you, all the scientists
and people who know things, you know, how when you
work out, you not only it's not just good for
your body, but it's also really good.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
For your mind.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
And I always go, yeah, of course I know that, whatever, whatever,
But I have to say today I went to a
class that was really really hard, and I was sweating
and it was hard, and I was hot, and it's
all the things. And then I finished it and I
came out and I like my whole mind was like

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clear and crisp, and I felt really good and I
felt happy, not like I exkew sad so much, but
I I just I felt like a whole release of
all the things that they tell you happen scientifically within
your body. And so I'm here to say anybody who's
you know, contemplating that gym schedule, contemplating that class schedule

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near you, I'm here to say, go do it, Go
do it, because guess what, there's some happy there's some
happy juice.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
And all that I finished, it was like I could
attack the world.

Speaker 3 (03:46):
Oh yeah, I loved reform a pilates and then the
place I used to go to it shut down in
the pandemic. And I have a group of girlfriends and
they were like, hey, we take this class in Los Angeles.
It's a me you have to come. And I was like,
oh my god, that's great. Okay, I can go with
a few of my friends and start reformer plates again.

(04:07):
And then I was like what, okay, so what's the
place called? Like where is it? And they're like oh oh,
and I'm like what and they're like, oh, the place
is called Grace Anatomy. And I was like, you guys,
do you know what a loser I would look like

(04:29):
if I showed like, out of all the pilates place
in los places in Los Angeles. I was like, I'm
going to go to Grace's Anatomy. Why don't I just
wear scrubs like I was, I will look like such
a loser, Like look at me. I'm here, doctor Wilson.
So that's my excuse for not working out.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
Okay, we need to find you a different place.

Speaker 3 (04:47):
Then, No, I have some weights at home. I'm trying
to do the weight thing.

Speaker 1 (04:52):
See, I like pilates too, and I think that that's
really great, although I've never I'm sorry to all those
who are pilates fanatics. I mean I'm saying yes and
or no, and I don't ever see a giant difference
in my physique.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
Like I don't.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
I don't take plates a bunch of times and say like, Wow,
my body's really changing in this way. That doesn't mean
that I don't highly enjoy it and that I don't
think that there are benefits to it. I just think
that it's harder. Like if you start lifting weights or
you do a bunch of cardio. I think that you
see a more immediate difference in your body, like in
your physique. The way it looks plates, I think is

(05:28):
a little more subtle.

Speaker 3 (05:31):
I just enjoy it. Yeah, I just enjoy the plates
of it. I My week is I'm making over the summer.
I'm done. Oh I'm done with it. And can I
tell you something. I was so excited I walked into
Joanne Fabrics. No, this is not an ad for Joanne Fabrics.
I got that, by the way. When I mentioned Dyson

(05:54):
the other day, Everyone's like, that's a dice in commercial.
I'm like, no, I wish it was. Because I spent
a lot of money on that thing. I walk into Johann's.
Joannes already has all of the Halloween decor and I
don't know if you feel this way. I love Halloween
so much it my soul. I was like skipping through
the aisles. I was like, it's a skeleton. And every

(06:15):
year MAT's like, please don't buy any more stuff. And
I have my eyeballs on like a twenty foot skeleton
that I genuinely think would look great in our front yard.
And I'm not joking. Do you do like the inflatable?

Speaker 1 (06:31):
Do you do the thing you We're really gonna talk
about Halloween right now?

Speaker 3 (06:36):
I want to why not? I'm just wondering, like that's
where I'm at. I hate I'm over that summer. Do
you do it? Just answer me this. Do you do
the inflatables?

Speaker 2 (06:47):
Well, here's what you know what.

Speaker 1 (06:48):
I think a better answer is, let's put a pause
on this because we have a very exciting thing happening today.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
Let's just put press pause on Halloween. We're gonna come
back to it.

Speaker 1 (06:57):
So, just like my minority report helicopter pilot situation, you
know what going to come back.

Speaker 3 (07:02):
To us on my happiness.

Speaker 1 (07:03):
I'm gonna pause your happines. But I'm gonna bring you
even greater happiness. Are you ready as to what we
have here today? Guess who's joining our little community. Guess
who's jumping on board becoming part of the crew? Skuyler Aston,
Ladies and gentlemen. I'm so excited because I don't know him.

Speaker 4 (07:22):
You do.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
I know him from Afar. You know him up close?

Speaker 3 (07:26):
He is the best real close. Yeah, we got and
you smooch him. Actually no, they didn't smooch.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
Interesting, I know it.

Speaker 3 (07:36):
I know. Didn't you have sex behind the scenes? No,
that sounded really not behind the scenes. People on the show.
They on the show. Joe talks about very bad sex
with him, actually, very not good sex.

Speaker 1 (07:51):
I was gonna say, you made the sweet love, but
evidently you did not. You made that was a sad sex,
not so sweet sex, but without kissing.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
Maybe it was not so sweet because there was no kissing,
because you need a little foreplay before the big event.

Speaker 3 (08:04):
No, you do, there was.

Speaker 2 (08:06):
We digressed.

Speaker 1 (08:07):
We were talking about being excited.

Speaker 3 (08:12):
I'm gonna let Skyler talk about that.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
Yeah, we're gonna talk to him about a lot of things.
I'm very excited. All right, Can we let him in.

Speaker 3 (08:18):
We're gonna let him in, Skyler Aston welcome to call
it what it is, welcome, Welcome.

Speaker 4 (08:26):
Oh, I'm so excited to be here.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
I have not seen so excited.

Speaker 3 (08:31):
We're so excited. I can't The last time I saw
you was when you walked off set on Gray's Anatomy.

Speaker 4 (08:36):
The Saddest and we made that cute little video with
the breakfast close I know, and the newest influencer duo
by the way.

Speaker 3 (08:47):
Actually, can I tell you, I feel like Skyler started
me on the TikTok cool trend. I was not like
Skylark arrived on set and he was like, we've got
to make some cool stuff, and I was like, what's
the internet?

Speaker 4 (09:01):
Yeah, I'm not sure, but these eight year old all
know what the internet is and they did all of
our work for us.

Speaker 5 (09:11):
And since then, I've not posted on TikTok because they
were They did all the stuff. They just told us
what was cool.

Speaker 3 (09:17):
Yes, Jess, you know all of our amazing eighties on Yes.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
Yes, and often stars of the TikTok videos themselves.

Speaker 3 (09:24):
We forced them to be stars of it and they're
all cool gen z. They Now.

Speaker 1 (09:30):
I see how it started because when I went back.
She made me do stuff and I was just like
all right. I was just just I don't know what
I'm I'm going to do.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
I'll just do it. Let's do it.

Speaker 3 (09:38):
Yeah, that's just what happened.

Speaker 4 (09:40):
Now when I see you do it, I get fomo
because I'm like, I can't even do this anymore. I
just have the ideas you can.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
Yeah, you knew where to find.

Speaker 4 (09:49):
Her, that's true.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
Slash that badge, get on in there.

Speaker 4 (09:53):
I do have a bunch of their numbers. I could
call them. I just start like.

Speaker 3 (09:58):
Your social media manager. Okay. So for people that have
not seen Grey's Anatomy or are still catching up on
Grey's Anatomy, Skyler came on to play Joe Wilson, my
character's love interest, for I think four episodes thinking about
four ish. I did not known each other before, and

(10:21):
it was instant love for me at least Skyler. No,
So we just clicked instantly, and in fact, to be honest,
I did like try and beg the writers to just
keep you and be like, no, this is the guy
for Joe. And then you went on book show.

Speaker 4 (10:37):
I loved that you used to do that.

Speaker 5 (10:39):
I was I'm by the way. I was down to
do both. I don't know if I could split my
body in half, but like I love, like.

Speaker 4 (10:46):
Can we keep them?

Speaker 5 (10:47):
And I I had it was an absolute delight of
working with you. Was so easy, very rarely. I mean
I I tend to get along with people that I
work with. Both sometimes it's just like love it first scene.

Speaker 3 (10:59):
Yeah, love for scene, and we had it and we
laughed so much.

Speaker 5 (11:03):
Yes, And for those of you, I mean, is it
is it okay to give spoilers about Yeah?

Speaker 3 (11:08):
Yeah, sure I don't.

Speaker 4 (11:09):
I'm alive, but I don't. But I was kind of
cast off in a a in a swift way. And
I think you and I were both like playing love.
We were pretty hard. And now there was one one
episode where it was like and now he's clinging, and
now you're repulsed by him, and now he's gone.

Speaker 3 (11:29):
Yes, we were playing. We were playing the long game.
I think we didn't know, we didn't know where it
went and and it was so adorable and so cute.
And I had said to them, you've got to bring
someone on the show for Joe that's so different to
her past relationship, someone that's really fun and like brings
that out of her, and then you walked onto set
and I was like, oh my god, this works and

(11:50):
people instantly are fandom. As you know, Jessica is very
fickle and it takes a long time for them to
warm up to new relationships. And it was like instantly
as soon as you aired, everyone really loved those two
characters together, which was so awesome and amazing, and I
was like, we have something here. But then you're so

(12:12):
talented you had to go book something.

Speaker 1 (12:15):
I feel but I feel like the story isn't over yet.
Listening to you guys talk about this, I feel like
the story is not over.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
I feel like and grace everything. Just I just feel
like there's a chance for you guys.

Speaker 3 (12:25):
Honestly ended, it was so cringey. Yeah, oh it killed it.
He bought me like, like your you want to tell
the story, you can tell the story of Skyler because
it was your sex bear.

Speaker 5 (12:37):
So so since they had to get me off, and
I guess they.

Speaker 4 (12:41):
Did keep me around for maybe the future, who knows.

Speaker 5 (12:45):
Yeah, but I just started to I would always do
like really sweet things or my character obviously where I
would show up at Joe's.

Speaker 4 (12:52):
Work and I would bring our cookies and bring, you know,
bring it just be this.

Speaker 5 (12:56):
The sweet guy would help like walk the stroller in
to the hospital and then and then it just took
it a little too far where he was just like
giving too many gifts. And apparently we didn't shoot this scene,
but Joe references the fact that when we finally do
the deed, I sing in operatic fashion when I wow.

Speaker 3 (13:21):
You know what's so funny is I literally forgot about
that until you just said it.

Speaker 4 (13:25):
Yeah, so now they were like Todd.

Speaker 5 (13:27):
She's talking to Chris Carmack's character about like, I don't
know about this Todd guy.

Speaker 4 (13:33):
And then there I show up with like this humongous
oversized stuff. He and I'm just like, I'm at the hospital.
I got you a bear because we had sex. It's
a sex bear and know a word set out that
was yes, that was that was written and performed.

Speaker 3 (13:56):
So I don't know if there's really Wow.

Speaker 4 (14:00):
Listen, those Gray's Anatomy writers are so amazing. They could
write anything. They could reverse it. I meant by sex bear,
what was that we were bear? We were having I
was not or.

Speaker 3 (14:18):
You know what they could do. They could be like
link told me that you loved this and to say
this like he had sabotaged.

Speaker 4 (14:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:25):
I love that.

Speaker 3 (14:26):
I like that.

Speaker 2 (14:26):
I like that.

Speaker 4 (14:28):
Killing two birds with one story. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (14:31):
Yes, so Jessica did not work with you on Grace. However,
you are a huge Spring Awakening fan, jess You so just.

Speaker 2 (14:52):
Stole my thunder there, just.

Speaker 4 (14:54):
Back it up there.

Speaker 3 (14:55):
Yes, Okay, I'm not gonna pretend.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
Shouldn't say that, pretend like should s. Let's start with this. Okay,
So you guys got to work together.

Speaker 3 (15:03):
Yeah, but I have.

Speaker 1 (15:04):
Known you for longer because I was in the second
row of the original Spring Awakening.

Speaker 4 (15:13):
Wow, so you got all the Jonathan Gross I.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
Got so much spit. Yeah, so much spit, and I
down for it. I bought it all. I loved that
show so much. I went home, I listened to it.

Speaker 1 (15:32):
I would sing and dance in my own kitchen, in
my bathroom wherever.

Speaker 2 (15:36):
I would listen in the car, all of it, all
of it, all of it.

Speaker 1 (15:39):
So I'm pretty much a musical theater nerd, and I
think that the thing that's so crazy about musicals is
that oftentimes, especially with musicals, it's very rare that there's
a new show that can feel like something you've lived
with your whole life, or that you can't believe you
lived with that, And Spring Awakening was that for me,
I'm such a nerd.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
And I also watched the documentary.

Speaker 4 (16:02):
Nice That was really fun.

Speaker 1 (16:05):
It was so much fun to watch, and I felt
like I got a peek behind the curtain. And also,
of course when I was watching the play, sitting there
for the first time, because everyone was so fresh and new,
I could make up.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
What I well.

Speaker 1 (16:17):
Also, as this happens obviously when people watch anything where
people are really good at their job, is that you
guys were your characters to me, so I was. They
were deeply in love. It was I mean, I had
the high and low. I was just there for it all.
When shows like that start, as soon as I'm in,
I start crying, Like I just feel so overwhelmed by

(16:40):
the music, and I feel so overwhelmed by how incredibly
brave it is to stand up there in front of
all of those people, Like I get goosebumps now, like,
because it's one thing to speak and to connect and
to tell a story and to live with script that
you are making new every night. But for me, maybe

(17:00):
because I haven't been blessed with that talent, although I
long for it, I cannot believe that you could sing
and connect and emote and feel and create stories.

Speaker 2 (17:11):
So when I watch it, I'm so moved by it,
and I just loved it, loved it, loved it, loved it,
loved it.

Speaker 4 (17:20):
That's so sweet.

Speaker 5 (17:20):
I mean, it was a very like raw and emotional
show and it definitely struck a chord because it is like,
unapologetically about adolescents and what happens when your kid when
parents are repressive to children.

Speaker 4 (17:32):
So for that expression came from such a real place,
and people loved it because it was.

Speaker 5 (17:37):
One of the few times where it wasn't like adults
playing kids, but we were actually kids ourselves, which is
probably why you were like, you are the characters and
we kind of were in a way. It wasn't really
like cast in a traditional sense or made in a
traditional sense. They were adapting the characters to us. Like
my character plays piano in the play, and I like

(18:01):
am obsessed with my piano teacher, And that really was
born from me being on a break, like on a
lunch break, just playing piano with the cast and messing around.

Speaker 4 (18:10):
On like some billy Joel or something like that.

Speaker 5 (18:12):
And at the time, our musical director was doing double
duty conducting another show, and they were like, well, we
love this musical director, but how are we going to
keep her if she can't play the show. And then
they ended up writing my character to be a piano
player so that I could also play the show, and
I had to join the Musicians Union, and so like
that is a little that is like one of the
little nuggets that made this show so deeply personal to

(18:34):
the people doing it and to the people you know,
seeing it and feeling.

Speaker 3 (18:38):
That, yeah, I want to know about the casting process
for people that didn't see the documentary and tell me
about it.

Speaker 4 (18:44):
Okay. So I joined it when I was like sixteen.
They've done so many workshops and iterations and different casts,
and every single time you had there was a.

Speaker 5 (18:54):
New workshop you had to re audition because there was
just always like you've got now.

Speaker 4 (18:58):
It's not even that you were like got too old old,
it's just they were always changing the cast.

Speaker 5 (19:02):
And I joined, and I joined the same time Leah
Michelle joined and John Gallagher Junior joined.

Speaker 4 (19:09):
And the three of us loved him. He's so fantastic
and I love him.

Speaker 5 (19:13):
But stayed through the Lincoln Center production, like little workshop
thing that we did and then I had to and
then I went to n Yu and then.

Speaker 4 (19:22):
I thought it was done. It was done because that's
there were like year gaps in between it. It was
a very obscure piece at the time, still being developed.
It was very different, Like the rock music wasn't like
musical theater rock. It was like actual It was written
by actual like alternative rock guy.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
Who went to Brown. I didn't got to spoil him, but.

Speaker 4 (19:41):
Yeah, Duncan Cheek was brilliant now Grammy winning and.

Speaker 5 (19:46):
He he was just this like anti musical guy, which
is kind of uh. It was an interesting creative team
because we had like traditional Broadway people and very untraditional
people and sometimes I won't say they clashed, but I
think like Duncan had an aversion to do certain things
that like just are like the recipe in the form
we loa for certain songs, like putting a big button

(20:08):
on it, like we're here, you know, like that's a
that's called the button. He hated buttons. It needed to
like fade into obscurity with like a chord like it
could make sense now, and that always like tied you know,
so so like so we were we were discouraged from
singing musical theater songs for the audition, So I sang

(20:29):
something in the Way She Moves by the Beatles. That
was always my song. It was just an honest song
that I could connect to the words. But also I
wasn't like super Broadway about it, and I did my
best cool guy impression, and.

Speaker 4 (20:43):
But then you're super formal period text that's like nineteenth
century Bavaria, like Germany. So it was a definitely interesting
skill set you need to have, like actual actors who
also knew how to like sing alternative rock. And that's
why since it was a difficult search, that's why we
had to re audition every time. So in between, like

(21:05):
I went to a full semester of college and then
finally it was happening, I kind of played hooky in
a way and auditioned and then ended up taking a
leave of absence that became a permanent leave of absence
from college and went on to do it off Broadway
and then Broadway and then beyond.

Speaker 1 (21:24):
It was such an incredible concentration of talent and think
about I mean, there's just it was look at where
everybody went. You know, it's kind of like, that's pretty wild.
I saw during the holidays. I saw it with my
parents and then my younger brother, and he was again
just hearkening back to that second row aspect of it.

(21:45):
There was a lot of sex, a lot of sex,
and he was like he was, I don't know that
my parents knew.

Speaker 2 (21:54):
I don't think they read the fine print. It was
actually a formative experience for.

Speaker 1 (22:00):
Him, because I think I'm pretty sure we'll have to
I'll have to ask him, but I'm pretty sure that
he actually has like really deep not trauma, but deep
feeling about the hilarity of feeling that he was having,
which was probably some kind of because it was sexy,
like it wasn't just sex in front of you, was

(22:21):
actually fucking sexy like you.

Speaker 2 (22:23):
It was arousing and.

Speaker 4 (22:25):
Then you had.

Speaker 5 (22:28):
I mean, there was there was sex. There was masturbation.
I had to masturbation. I had to do a jerk
in a cirque.

Speaker 1 (22:36):
Really just started saying masturbation out loud myself, like, and
this was on stage.

Speaker 2 (22:41):
They were saying it and doing it.

Speaker 4 (22:43):
Imagine imagine being the actor in it, doing it in
front of your grandparents who are finally seeing their baby boy.
On Broadway for the first time. Oh god, I had
I had to do a lot of crazy stuff and
and and you know, rip off the band aid. I
think we got so comfortable with the material that it
almost became kind.

Speaker 5 (23:01):
Of fun and funny to us. Because we also we
sat on stage the entire show. We never left the stage,
so even when we weren't in character, we were sitting
right because we had audience on the stage as well,
on three sides, and so we would sit amongst them
and then come on and do the scenes and then
come off. So and there's moments in the scenes where
we're on stage, but we were kind of like ghosts,

(23:23):
not ghost versions of our characters, but kind of like
commenting on the show a little bit.

Speaker 4 (23:27):
So needless say, we get to see the audience a lot,
and we get to kind of like hear the audience,
and we know when they're going to react. And we've
had some instances speaking of masturbation. We've had people. I've
had room keys thrown at me and I was like,
I was like seventeen eighteen, being like, what are you doing, ma'am?

(23:50):
And then we were doing that, what are we doing?
Where are we going? And then and then we also
had someone like in the balcony speaking of masturbation. Yeah, yeah,
Do you like.

Speaker 1 (24:06):
To know when people are in the audience or not?
And I mean like relatives. I mean I was in
a couple of shows where like there were actors who
were like, I want to know when someone famous is here, Like,
tell me if someone famous is here, I want to know,
And then other people that were like you better not
and tell me I don't want to know.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
Where do you land on this.

Speaker 4 (24:29):
Well, like a level of what is it called tradition
or when you don't want to like superstition where you're
not supposed to like those are technically the rules, like
you're not supposed to talk about reviews, you're not supposed
to talk about who's in the house. However, of course
that happens, and I'm kind of like whatever about it.

Speaker 5 (24:48):
I know, like Jonathan Graff is like, oh my god, wait,
tell me I need to know. And there's other people
I need to leave the room.

Speaker 4 (24:54):
So I don't like to say it, but if I
happen to hear it, it depends who it is. Sometimes
sometimes it is tough because you're like, wow, I'm really
thinking about this person the entire show. But also it's
not always the ones thing. Sometimes you're like, I'm kind
of glad.

Speaker 5 (25:10):
I know, not that I would give any more or less,
but like, oh, this is cool that.

Speaker 4 (25:14):
I'm doing this, and like Billy Joebels l here.

Speaker 1 (25:17):
Okay, So when I went, I went with my parents.
Know that Steven Spielberg, Okay, Capshaw were in the audience.

Speaker 4 (25:26):
I did Steve mister Spielberg came backstage.

Speaker 2 (25:31):
I think I was there, and I think we could.

Speaker 1 (25:33):
I think the internet, because it knows all we'll be
able to pick up get these pictures. I think there's
a picture of all the whole family and some of
you at least in like a stairwell.

Speaker 4 (25:42):
Yeah. Yeah, that means that we were together in that picture.

Speaker 1 (25:45):
Oh Skylerci, I've known him so much longer than you, Tameila, you.

Speaker 3 (25:49):
Know I heard.

Speaker 4 (25:52):
Yeah, we were all auditioning, like for one of his
he had like one of his mini series is at
the time, it was probably.

Speaker 3 (25:59):
Like that broad Why God, wait, that's really stressful because
if you're auditioning, that's why mass and then he comes,
then you're then you're like, fuck, I gotta stuff.

Speaker 4 (26:08):
Yeah, yeah, that's why the Pacific or whatever. It was
like some work and he's like, oh, very fantastic.

Speaker 2 (26:14):
Your extra marine that night.

Speaker 3 (26:21):
Were like, I've never seen this before.

Speaker 4 (26:23):
All the play You're not You're a child.

Speaker 1 (26:29):
You changed the playbill to reflect your deep admiration for this.

Speaker 4 (26:37):
I'm having like John and Lea are having sex on stage.
I'm like.

Speaker 3 (26:45):
In the hole? Yeah, like what the is?

Speaker 4 (26:49):
I will never forget those.

Speaker 5 (26:50):
Spielberg did have a cast recording in his hand, and
I was like, I was like, oh, that's okay.

Speaker 4 (26:55):
He's like, yeah, I picked one up at the box.
I was like, we could have got you one, like
it have to pay like it was. I thought it
was very he liked with his own Spielberg money, which
of course he has plenty of, but you know, there's
so many resources to get that to him without him
waiting in line amongst you know. I thought that was
very cool and like, well, we.

Speaker 2 (27:13):
All loved it, We really, really really all loved it.

Speaker 1 (27:15):
But I think but I did think about that because
I always want to know. And I remember doing a
show and someone said I don't like to know, and
someone spilled the beans and they were like, Robert de
Niro's here tonight and I was like, oh.

Speaker 2 (27:28):
I don't even know that I'll remember how to act.

Speaker 3 (27:30):
I would not want to know.

Speaker 4 (27:32):
But here's the thing.

Speaker 5 (27:34):
Our show was lit in a certain way, especially during
the scenes where you could see the first like five rows,
and they always sat the famous people in the exact
same seat, so you'd be it's tough man seats, it's
like fifth row on the So I used to play
piano when I would have my back turned, I was
in the back of the stage, and then I would

(27:54):
always pop out and there'd be a big like light
on my face and I would say one of my
first solos. And that was always when I kind of
got like to take inventory, and I'd be like, oh
my god, it's Tarah Banks, or like oh my god,
it's Stephen Sondheim, or like, oh my god, it's like
my favorite player on the Knicks or whatever.

Speaker 3 (28:09):
Well, in that case, i'd want to know, Yeah, it's
like a jump out. Then I don't want to be
like woa, whoa, whoa. That's how I feel internally.

Speaker 2 (28:18):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (28:19):
Totally, especially playing piano, being like I can't believe the
piano man is watching me play piano, right, Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (28:42):
So obviously you clearly started on the younger side. But
I have a question because I think that this is
like a moment in all performers lives where it's like,
you want to do it, you see it, you want
to be on stage, you want to act, you want
to sing. Clearly you developed your talent, blah blah blah.

Speaker 2 (28:58):
When did you think that it was actually possible?

Speaker 1 (29:02):
Like, when was the moment you were like, Okay, I've
wanted to do this, I want to do this.

Speaker 2 (29:06):
But like I actually might be able to do this.

Speaker 3 (29:11):
Hmmm, Because don't you feel like Broadways more competitive than
like getting a job on a TV show.

Speaker 2 (29:17):
No, it's of and hard.

Speaker 3 (29:19):
No, I think it's harder because I think there are
less roles.

Speaker 5 (29:22):
I think it depends on who you ask and what
their skill set is. I I never imagined.

Speaker 4 (29:30):
My life like I know after I started acting. I
never imagined anything for myself.

Speaker 5 (29:37):
Other than theater. I didn't even think TV or film.
It wasn't even I just I was only wanted to
be on stage.

Speaker 4 (29:43):
So like to me, the dream was to make it
on Broadway or and I would have done anything. I
would have done the smallest part. It was only after
Spring Awakening.

Speaker 5 (29:54):
Actually, when I would just now get these opportunities to
audition for things, I'm like, sure, I guess I'll try it.
And then I was lucky enough to book a movie,
which like led to many other things. But I think
so to me, it kind of happened really fast when
I was on stage, and I think it was like
my third or fourth musical because I started when I
was like thirteen or fourteen, and then it just my

(30:15):
life at a full one a from like sports and
stuff to and like playing a bit of piano and
singing like for friends, to like whoa.

Speaker 4 (30:24):
I actually had the courage to do it, and then
I was super briitten by the bug and I just
loved it so much. And I didn't know if necessarily
I was going to do it like super professionally or
even on Broadway, but I just knew I wanted to
be on stage, like and hopefully in some sort of
a setting where I can like put food on the

(30:45):
table while do it.

Speaker 3 (30:46):
Yeah, yeah, when did you start taking like singing lessons
and all that stuff.

Speaker 5 (30:52):
I started taking piano lessons pretty early, but I then
learned when I was like thirteen fourteen, I was totally
like taught the wrong way.

Speaker 4 (31:01):
I didn't learn any piano.

Speaker 5 (31:03):
Yeah, I didn't learn any theory, which is like the language.
I just kind of like learned the notes on like
one scale, and then would like I would compete in
these classical music competitions, and it's crazy because I would
like know how to read the music and work on
a piece for a very long period of time, but
I actually didn't know what the hell I was doing,

(31:25):
like playing. It's very difficult to describe going to this
teacher because I would be a lot better piano player
than I am today.

Speaker 4 (31:32):
But then I just started.

Speaker 5 (31:34):
I started kind of like singing at those recitals, Like
I would do like the Friends theme at my recital.

Speaker 4 (31:41):
I'm that guy, just like no one to like, like
I was really doing theme songs at a piano recital.

Speaker 3 (31:49):
But you didn't get singing lessons until later in life,
like like.

Speaker 4 (31:53):
Fourteen, I went to this woman, Dixie Johnson, who was
like an opera person, and I learned a bit of
technique there.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
And did you ever go to Eric Vitro?

Speaker 4 (32:04):
I have been to Eric. Yeah, is that who.

Speaker 3 (32:07):
Trained you for the musical episode Jessica? Jessica, we did it.
Skyler We did a musical episode grays Anatomy and Jessica
had a single line, but I think she trained really hard.

Speaker 4 (32:22):
Do you recall that that line was Yes.

Speaker 1 (32:24):
We had a musical episode for grays Anatomy and Camilla
was pointing out that when my musical talents were assessed,
I was given one line.

Speaker 4 (32:33):
And you nailed that line.

Speaker 2 (32:34):
I hope I did.

Speaker 3 (32:36):
I hope I did. Do you still get nervous when
you go on stage or is that done for you?

Speaker 4 (32:44):
I get, like I always get kind of by the
time I'm going on I'm ready to go. There's always
like a moment before I start rehearsals or something where
I'm like do I know how to do this? Or like,
oh my god, it's in two weeks, like two weeks
from like literally under two weeks from today, I will
be at the Hollywood Bowl doing this like Big Blame

(33:06):
is Missigon thing, and I still don't know the words
for like a couple of my songs. It's this moment
where I'm a little nervous, but.

Speaker 5 (33:14):
By the time I get there and like learn everything,
it'll be more like excited and more.

Speaker 4 (33:22):
Not all I'm doing well. So it's it's this really great. Uh.

Speaker 5 (33:28):
It's like a celebration of the writers of Lamez and
miss Igon. So we're doing a bunch of songs from
a bunch of different shows of theirs, and I'm doing
a lot of the big It's crazy actually because I'm
doing like a song called bring Them Home, which is
a very popular song from me song, but I'm also
doing like one.

Speaker 4 (33:48):
I'm also playing.

Speaker 5 (33:49):
Like two characters at the same time in some of
the group songs because there's only like excepts, so we're
like divvying them up, and I'm just like, basically.

Speaker 3 (34:00):
You're basically doing it all kind of.

Speaker 2 (34:01):
I'm I'm the Hollywood Bowl.

Speaker 4 (34:05):
Yeah, I'm doing a whole lot of it.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
Awesome.

Speaker 1 (34:07):
The Holly Bowl is one of my favorite places in
the whole world. I think that if you're just standing
up there, you'll feel great, I hope.

Speaker 4 (34:15):
So I've done it before. I've done the Hollyball. I've
been lucky enough to do three things there. So I'm
now return.

Speaker 3 (34:22):
Something with Chris Carmack.

Speaker 4 (34:24):
Isn't that how Yeah?

Speaker 3 (34:25):
What did you do again?

Speaker 4 (34:26):
He seems to do? Oh yeah, he was so incredible.
Into the Woods, Into the Woods, Yeah, he played Prince
and he was so funny. I played the Baker.

Speaker 5 (34:39):
It was a really great cast and the original Millie
Sutton Foster was my wife in it. And then Amazing,
he's incredible, amazing. A lot of that cast, like Sutton
and this woman's here at Bougus and Patty Lapone and myself.
We did like a celebration of Stephen Sondheim, so I
got to do a lot of like some of my

(35:01):
favorite Sonheim songs ever at the Hollywood Bowl. So I've
they they they they cross a lot off my bucket list.
And now I'm playing Jean Valjean, which I'll never do
anywhere else. So pretty insane that I get to do
it there.

Speaker 2 (35:14):
That's insaneciting.

Speaker 1 (35:15):
Okay, so you're in Los Angeles now, but you do
often come. So I'm in New York, Los Angeles.

Speaker 4 (35:23):
That's from my fas.

Speaker 3 (35:26):
That's what your family is. Los Angeles, No, no, no, New York,
New York. It is a little bit of a competition
between us Skuyler, which a little bit.

Speaker 4 (35:33):
More well, I can level the playing Fiel because I
feel like I'm getting a lot of blah blah blah
energy from Capshaw regarding our friendship and relationship, but how
much she mentioned you when you were not around during
the grades. Her bestie wants to back. There was one
day where you.

Speaker 5 (35:53):
Pulled up to the lot and I kind of like
faded into the back. I think we like kind of
mett he like hi, but it was like there was
no room for anything else. There was a lot of
hugging and love.

Speaker 3 (36:04):
Yeah, that's the that's the day that you snuck on
and I quickly ran out of the seat.

Speaker 1 (36:12):
I was like, bye, Skyler, Oh my gosh, I know
actually you know what, But I think back on the
day that was because we hadn't seen each other like
a long time.

Speaker 3 (36:20):
Yeah, you went from Grays and you went to So
help you Todd. You were you are auditioning for that

(36:42):
when you were on the show with me, and then
you got it so annoying and you had to leave
me and and the show was super popular. So I'm
gonna be perfectly honest. I was very very shocked when
you guys got canceled. Although in this environment, it's happening
to so many shows. But I know that fans really

(37:02):
love that show and so anyone listening that was watching it,
are you able to say how it would have ended,
And do you have a different way you wish it
would have ended?

Speaker 5 (37:15):
I know how it was always supposed to end, and
it pains me to kind of say it because I
really wanted to play it out and I didn't even
tell like my family and people like that, because I
thought it was really poetic. But it was supposed to
end with Todd having his own.

Speaker 3 (37:31):
Child, and oh, that's good.

Speaker 4 (37:35):
Finally understanding the relationship with your mom, mother and son
and parent and child. And it was supposed to shed
some light and I won't say with the last lines
of the series work, but basically there was supposed to
be a tie in of Todd becoming a father.

Speaker 3 (37:51):
Oh that's awesome. Is that how you would have wanted
it to end to anyway?

Speaker 4 (37:55):
Yeah, I think the series could have ended that way.
There's so much there's so much like in.

Speaker 5 (38:01):
Between that though that I know was supposed to happen
that I was really more excited about, not more excited
about just that the fun along the way, of course,
the finish line's fun. But like my character used to disguise,
not disguise himself fully, but like playing other characters, which
I loved as an actor to be able to just
like slip in and pretend to be somebody else and do.

Speaker 4 (38:20):
A poor job too.

Speaker 5 (38:22):
So the audience was always kind of in on the joke,
which I loved, and some great actors and actresses. There
was a flashback episode that I pitched to the to
the creator that we were going to do and see three.

Speaker 4 (38:33):
There's a lot of episode ideas and characters we were
going to like have.

Speaker 5 (38:38):
I had a bunch of love interests on the show,
and then there was this whole episode where they were
all supposed to kind of like show up and there
was some great interplay amongst them and just you know,
you know how it is when like something goes unfinished
and you're like, but.

Speaker 4 (38:50):
We had so much more to say. I know it
started and it was very successful too.

Speaker 3 (38:55):
So but it was really successful because you guys were
on at the same time, so help me. Todd was
on the same time exactly Thursday nights is Gray's Anatomy.
So what I wanted to do was promote the show
for Skylie because I love him, and I'm like, I
definitely can't it's on a rival network. And then I
would like look at the numbers on like damn they're
doing really good in that time slot.

Speaker 5 (39:16):
Yeah, well, yeah, I guess it was just one of
those things where, you know, they had a bunch of
shows coming in from past the strike that needed real estate,
and they weren't really none of their shows were doing
bad or even the Yeah it's an average. They're very
successful over there, and so we just they were like,

(39:37):
you know, and I got the news saying like any
other year, you know, it would have it would have
been renewed, and so heartbreaking and I believe.

Speaker 3 (39:45):
That, Yeah that's totally true.

Speaker 5 (39:48):
Oh good to me over there at CBS. So I
know it was a difficult decision. It doesn't make it
much easier to digest because it's like it almost would
be easier if it's almost like going a break up
when you're like I wish you were.

Speaker 6 (40:00):
Yeah exactly, and that we want to we want this
to just just for some reason, the timing isn't right
in this one moment, and so that's kind of what
happened there.

Speaker 2 (40:12):
I always feel like when when there really is.

Speaker 1 (40:16):
Like a real excitement and a connection to something that
you're working on and you find out that that that's
going to stop or that's going to end, it's sort
of I say this all the time, so sorry for
everyone who hears me say it all the time. But
there's like that moment where you have to feel it,
you have to process it and all that, and then
you do have to kind of hit that reset button
and be like, Okay, so now, like what do I want?

(40:38):
And how does what I want match up with what
wants me? And because nobody wants to live in that
kind of disappointment or pain obviously in perpetuity, right, and
you have all these incredible things that are happening, and
you can so easily dip into so many things because
you are so multi talented in so far as you
see things and what you want. Is there some Is

(41:00):
there something that you've really been thinking about wanting to do,
or that you haven't done, or the calls to you
or in any kind of way you have like in
the back of your mind right now?

Speaker 4 (41:12):
Yeah, well there's there's a bunch there's.

Speaker 2 (41:16):
To manifest it.

Speaker 4 (41:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (41:18):
I love something really big on Broadway, not even like
large scale, just like something that's big for me, like
as an actor, just something that is maybe a new
original show or revival of one of my favorites I
feel ripe for, like a Broadway return, And then as

(41:41):
far as like things I've done in the past, like
movie musicals or TV musicals, it'd be fun to do
some sort of like a movie musical that was large
in scale, like a Wicked or something like that. Because
I think I've done some fun different stuff and some big,
some small, some in between. I just think it would
be really fun to do something like and scale. Not
to say I just want to be in some big

(42:02):
Hollywood movie what actor doesn't, But I think it'll be
really cool to do something that is.

Speaker 4 (42:06):
Like that kind of you know, not not even a
biopic like Bohemian Rhapsody, but something that feels kind of
big in scale like that where I could really lend
my voice and maybe that's honestly animated big in scale.
I just think it's fun to be a part of
something and and and lend every every bit of myself
to it.

Speaker 1 (42:25):
I'm going to be in the MoMA Mia two giant
dance boat scenes somewhere in the Mediterranean that looks so
much fun, and they're out there and talk about with
abandon and just I mean all the things. I can
totally see that for you, and evidently now for me,
I would.

Speaker 2 (42:44):
Like to also be on the boat.

Speaker 4 (42:46):
I'm also mister manifest. I'll tell you to I'll call
my shot two other shots, Okay. I also want another
series because I love the consistency of the work. I
no shit love it. And I'm not just talking about
the consistency of a paycheck though that's that's not a
bad thing either, But I just I do love taking
a character at the distance. It's really fun to kind
of like see what they're doing and just kind of

(43:08):
keep going, and especially if it's a character you love
and really resonate with. It's like one of my favorite things.

Speaker 5 (43:13):
And then a huge goal of mine, and I've come
very close to this before, is making something like producing
something myself. I've written a lot and I've come close
to getting those things made and may happen sooner than later,
but it's something that I when I'm on set, i
feel like I'm very in tune to a lot of

(43:34):
the different departments. I like appreciate everyone involved, and I
feel like I feel like I could do. I feel
like I'm one of those who could. Like my friend
Rachel Bloom, she did crazy ex girlfriend and while it
seemed exhausting and like she was wearing so many hats,
I was like, I think I'm.

Speaker 4 (43:53):
Just the psychopath to give this a shot as well.
So maybe one.

Speaker 3 (43:57):
Day I want to do a romantic comedy Skuyler, can
we do that?

Speaker 4 (44:02):
Yeah? Tomorrow, Yep, I love it.

Speaker 3 (44:06):
Okay, we teased you out, we teased you to the listeners,
and the first question we got is we got a
lot of this pitch perfect four.

Speaker 4 (44:17):
Yeah, the world in which.

Speaker 3 (44:19):
That will ever happen? Could it happen? Would you want
it to happen? All the things I.

Speaker 5 (44:23):
Can't wait till I'm doing like an interview when I'm
seventy eight, god willing.

Speaker 3 (44:30):
Everyone asks you this, but listen, this is how much
it resonated with the audiences.

Speaker 4 (44:34):
You know, And I have a very very consistent answer,
because it's the truth. I would do it in a second,
like I love it. There's no mystery on my part.
I love doing it. I'm so grateful for everything it
brought me, for the friendships and the fans that it
brought me. It's wild.

Speaker 5 (44:56):
I'd like been stopped by you know, kids of all ages,
and they continue to kids that are eight years old
and I'm like, you were negative three when this came out, you.

Speaker 4 (45:05):
Know, So it's it's cool now that it that people
show it to their kids, and.

Speaker 5 (45:09):
So, Yeah, I also think that while I would do
it if they called me tomorrow, time is also on
our side a little bit.

Speaker 4 (45:17):
I mean, depending on how.

Speaker 5 (45:18):
Much more you know, space they want to give in
between the movies, make us older, make it a reunion, however,
they would want to do it, but just to get
that group together, I'm sure it would be. It would
be difficult just because everyone's so busy and it's fantastic careers.
But I think everyone has a very special special place
in their heart for that movie.

Speaker 3 (45:40):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (45:41):
Okay, I want to go back to something that happened
a couple episodes ago, and we knew you were going
to come on, and I remember Kimla being like.

Speaker 2 (45:48):
We've got to ask this.

Speaker 1 (45:51):
I was like, okay, I didn't know you yet, so
now I'm like, yeah, I got to ask you this.
We had a fan we had a fan question in
and the question and the question was do you think
that men and women can be only friends?

Speaker 4 (46:06):
Yeah? I have many friends that are female.

Speaker 3 (46:08):
Really think about it, Sky, It's not that tricky.

Speaker 4 (46:12):
I have so many friends that are that I've never no.

Speaker 3 (46:16):
Okay, hang on, Okay, we're gonna get into detail a
little bit. Okay, here's the thing. Do you think that
men and women can be friends where not where like
you know, they never hook up, but like we're where
it's common that one person does not end up developing
feelings for the other person, especially if they're both single,

(46:36):
like and we're not talking like you're a buddy. It's
like you can go to the movie together, you can
go to dinner together, you can go to lunch like
same as you with guy friends, girlfriends, and it's common
that people just stay platonically interested in each other.

Speaker 4 (46:54):
Look, I think, I'm sure it happens where one can
develop feelings, and I've definitely been on both sides of that.
But I've also been able to have my friend Lee
Gerbert is one of them who's a dear friend of mine,
and we could be single or not single, and she's
just like a well, I also develop very like familial

(47:15):
relationships with people, so like I do consider people like
like my brother or a cousin or like my one
of my closest friends, Jess Jollis who's married to one
of my best friends, but like we have our own relationship.
I actually married them.

Speaker 3 (47:31):
Like I yeah, ordained the wedding.

Speaker 5 (47:34):
That was ordained, like and I think the big reason
why they asked me to do that was because I'm
like equally their friends, like I will shed and weirdly enough,
maybe this is just more for their marriage. But like
the she he's not the guy that's going to go
to world market and like smell all the candles with her,
and I am for sure that guy and like even single,

(47:58):
like I'm like.

Speaker 4 (48:00):
Oh, she's like can we go to the container store?
We please go to the container store. Danny will not go,
and I'm like, can you organize my closet? I mean,
And yeah, maybe there's like maybe there is that kind
of feeling of like oh my god, it's like I
wish I had a girlfriend to do that or like

(48:21):
you know, but at the time, but I think I
don't think it's I don't know, I've been like happy
single and I've also been happy in relationships, So maybe
that that you need to kind of becape yourself. Not
to say that like I'm judging those who that happens too,
because it's very natural, and again I've been on both

(48:43):
sides of that, but I think that maybe in order
to do that, you need to be a little like
content with yourself at the time so you feel like
you can have a healthy friendship and not cross that boundary.
I also am somebody who like, when doing love scenes
and when in those situations, make it a point to
like not, you know, across that line, because I think

(49:03):
it's like it's almost like asking somebody out when they're
at work and it's like, hey, they're kind of they're
kind of like being nice to you, and maybe they
are flirting and maybe you are like supposed to be together,
but you know what I mean, unless it's like, yeah, well,
you don't want to put them in that position because
like they're kind of behind the counter and are supposed
to be nice and maybe you're mistaking that.

Speaker 3 (49:25):
Yeah, yeah, no, no, we got we got our guy answer, Jess,
I got the guy. It was not what I was expecting. Skuyler.

Speaker 5 (49:34):
By the way, I think it's like they ask most guys.
I asked to any guy, you're gonna get a different answer.
I hope, I hope I'm representing good ones. But I
don't think I'm representing all all men.

Speaker 3 (49:44):
Yeah, no, I mean our our answers were different. Jessica
was like, I had so many guys that I was
friends with in college, Like we're totally not into me.
We we're just friends. And I'm like, let's call those
guys because I think they might have a different story.

Speaker 4 (50:00):
Yeah, and their wives like hate you permanently?

Speaker 3 (50:03):
Yeah for sure. Yeah, they have capshaw voodoodles.

Speaker 7 (50:08):
Yeah, we do have a Coraffean question.

Speaker 3 (50:24):
Oh, this one is giving me a true purchase. I
don't I don't like this. I've been with my guy,
my man for ten years. It will be eleven here
pretty soon. There's no ring on my finger. He's known.
I want to get capital letters known. No, NA, when
do I just call it? We don't even live together.

(50:44):
It's not going to happen, is it?

Speaker 4 (50:46):
He's known? What does that mean's? What was that known?

Speaker 3 (50:49):
That she wants to get married? Like it's a known thing.
They've been together over a decade. They don't even live together.
Is this a situation where she just needs to call
it and move on? Is it going to happen? What's
the guy perspective on this? Because girl perspective? Jess and
I were texting last night. Really God.

Speaker 5 (51:05):
My one fan question to this fan would be like,
is it known that this person doesn't want to get married,
because I imagine you've talked about it in detail.

Speaker 4 (51:14):
I think that that is like something that needs to
be kind of agreed on somewhat early, even if it's
not coming around the corner. It's like, are you open
to this because it's just like I'm hope, hopelessly or
hopefully waiting. I think you know, but no, I mean
I think like if I gun to my head, i'd say,

(51:36):
a happen.

Speaker 3 (51:37):
Yeah, that's a weird feeling.

Speaker 4 (51:38):
And I'm not saying and I'm not And I don't
want to give bad advice, like you give that man
an ultimatum, but I think like maybe if you've been
with them, if you've been with this person for ten years,
you just try to like have like one final super
honest conversation that really doesn't feel ultimated me here where
he's at, except that at face value, and either move

(51:59):
on or keep going.

Speaker 1 (52:02):
I think that's such great advice. And I think when
you have a relationship for that long, it can be
so intimidating to get curious because you're like, exactly what
you said. I should already know the answer this question,
like he either does or doesn't, right, But now I'm
in this relationship and now my whole heart is in
this or I've set up this idea or I think
this is going to happen, and now I actually have

(52:24):
to act. I have to get curious, and that's so vulnerable,
especially if you think that the answer might be no.

Speaker 2 (52:31):
And I think that ultimately.

Speaker 1 (52:34):
You got to go there because partnership and connection is
about intimacy, and you don't have intimacy if you don't
have if you're not sharing, and you're not getting curious
and ready for the answers that you're going to like
and the answers that you're maybe not gonna like, because
you can get answers that you don't like and still
move on, but you got to get some answers.

Speaker 5 (52:55):
You got to have some also, try this on precise.
I really don't like to be someone who deals in absolutes.
I like to even like the obvious answer here feels
like girl, move on.

Speaker 4 (53:08):
But I try to like I'm a libra, so I
like to like seey So I think that like when
it comes to this if you are ten years in
and you know, I don't want to take any credit
away from us and our profession of giving these of

(53:29):
giving this advice. If you're asking a podcast what you
should do, you know, then like maybe you kind of
know you're searching, and I've been in that place where
you're searching for someone to just give you the answer
because you deep down kind of know what the answer
is and you're almost tapped out of asking friends even
because they're like, how many times am I going to

(53:51):
tell you?

Speaker 2 (53:52):
Yeah, Oh, it's so painful?

Speaker 4 (53:54):
It is. You should feel as comfortable as possible with
your partner, especially if you've been with them for ten years,
and so like maybe you just kind of rip off
the band aid because either way, like it's an exercise
for yourself and you're going to learn a lot about
yourself and it's going to kind of be not just
like a relief, but I think you're going to like

(54:15):
kind of free yourself from the situation by by having
that conversation. It's it's like a very palferable thing to do.

Speaker 3 (54:22):
I also feel like if you sometimes if you walk
away and you're like, you know what, instinctually, I think
that this isn't going to work. That person, if they
really do want to be with you, they'll fight for you.
Do you know what I mean? You'll see in walking
away what the answer is. And also, I just feel
like you always as a girl, you have an instinct
and I'm going to out myself a little bit in this.

(54:44):
I the problem with having a conversation sometimes, even though
I fully agree they should have a conversation, is that
the other person is sometimes scared to say the truth.
I've been in my twenties where I've been like, I
just need a little more time before we move in,
and I've known I don't want to move in. I
just I don't know. I know I don't want to
move in. You're not really the one, but I'm not

(55:05):
sure what I want. And then I'm just kind of
leading someone along, which sucks and I hate that I
ever did that, But that's that's when I think you
have to trust your own instinct because you kind of know,
and if you break up and that person doesn't fight
for you, then it's done.

Speaker 2 (55:22):
Yeah right, yep, yep, I'm there.

Speaker 4 (55:26):
I just spung my gavel.

Speaker 1 (55:33):
Here's the question, and then we'll discuss Rachel writes in
and she says, I am a fifth grade teacher, and
the children are unwell. Ever since COVID, I've noticed particularly
unhinged behavior. One of my students called me a quote
certified D one dick writer.

Speaker 2 (55:54):
End quote. You can't make this up. Let's talk about
it and call it what it is.

Speaker 3 (55:59):
Got what do you think a D one dick writer is?

Speaker 4 (56:05):
Well, oh, I didn't realize that they had.

Speaker 3 (56:07):
They got a certification for it.

Speaker 4 (56:10):
So the little that I know, I'm piecing it together.
D one is like an athlete that's in a high
tier of college.

Speaker 3 (56:19):
Oh yeah, oh it's a division one.

Speaker 2 (56:23):
Yes, Division one.

Speaker 3 (56:24):
Okay, I thought it was dick one, like a D like,
you're one dick writer certified high level.

Speaker 4 (56:31):
She might be, But I think that the implication here
is that you're certified, meaning like you're a professional. It's
meaning like, will you do this all the time and
you are very good at it and do it mostly that.

Speaker 3 (56:46):
You're just you're good in bad like you're you're.

Speaker 2 (56:49):
So what's the dick writer part? Do you think that?

Speaker 4 (56:52):
I mean?

Speaker 2 (56:52):
I actually, by the way, I did again, I did
my research, so I have the answer.

Speaker 3 (56:55):
A dick writer I'm assuming you're writing dicks.

Speaker 4 (56:59):
What is the pointing for this? How are you speaking
to not only adults, but your teachers. This is insane.
My sister's a teachers.

Speaker 2 (57:05):
It's insane. It's absolutely insane.

Speaker 3 (57:07):
Yeah, that's well, that's what she's saying.

Speaker 1 (57:11):
She's saying there, and well, I actually have a friend
also that's a teacher. And she said that the exercise
of teaching adolescent boys is literally one of the most
unhinging experiences that she has in her life ever, anywhere,
and every single day of the week. She feels like
if she turns her back when they start laughing, she's
like taken back to being in the cafeteria.

Speaker 3 (57:30):
Oh my god, my pants? Am I a certified do
you racer? Yeah? Do you dick? Writer? Is a writer?

Speaker 4 (57:43):
And writer? Is that you're on top of your your
your mounting dicks? No?

Speaker 1 (57:47):
Okay, so this is what I thought too. But I
went to the teenagers and here's the answer.

Speaker 3 (57:53):
You went to Jena.

Speaker 1 (57:56):
I went to them, Oh god, if you say this,
if you say that to my daughter, she literally like
has a visceral reaction.

Speaker 4 (58:03):
I don't even know what any of that means. It
does I just kind of figured out some gen Z
stuff and apparently.

Speaker 3 (58:09):
I wait, what did you just say, though, hibbitty hibbity
gibbitty skippity.

Speaker 4 (58:14):
I don't know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (58:15):
There's so many things on TikTok and Instagram like basically
decoding language again. But here's the deal. A dick writer
is not sexual. A dick writer is. A dick writer
is someone who is like unctious or like insincerely suave,
but like like keeps throwing on the compliments but they're

(58:36):
not real and they're just like constantly like writing or dick.

Speaker 2 (58:39):
They're like, you're so great, You're so awesome.

Speaker 1 (58:43):
Ninem for dick writing would be also something called glazing,
which you're constantly like and it's not rising up because
it doesn't have a sexual connotation.

Speaker 3 (58:54):
It's just like your constantly.

Speaker 1 (58:59):
They constantly complimenting people, but it's not sincere and it's
also just too much and it's very much a turnoff.

Speaker 4 (59:04):
Here's what I just heard from you, Capshaw. I just heard.
So it's not planning, but we do that, which it's
like you're speaking another legage. It's big leg.

Speaker 3 (59:21):
But blazing in a sentence though, is it like, hey,
you're you've been glazing me recently, I.

Speaker 4 (59:27):
Think a very very sexual thing. When I heard glazing,
I hear fair.

Speaker 2 (59:31):
No, I know, but it's a glazed dick. It's like a
glaze dont dick.

Speaker 3 (59:34):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (59:34):
It's like all the glaze and the dick and the
writing and there's no way in the writing writing a
glazed dick.

Speaker 4 (59:43):
Wait what if, Jenna? For the whole point of them is.

Speaker 5 (59:46):
To make us idiots be sexual stuff and it's not
sexual at all.

Speaker 4 (59:52):
It's like, yeah, well I was glazing on a girl,
amazing on a girl, I complimenting her. Yes, No, I'm
talking about Richard Hampton, the famous author writing get your

(01:00:13):
head out of the gutter.

Speaker 3 (01:00:15):
How do you make that phone call? Is it a
phone call to the parents? Do you have to write
certified d one dick writer in an email?

Speaker 4 (01:00:22):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (01:00:23):
You should. Is that the subject? Yeah? I just have
to tell you that Bobby said certified d one dame
writer to me in class and we had to google that.
That's also blazed, Rachel.

Speaker 1 (01:00:35):
I'm proud of you. If no one said it today
to you, I just want you to know that on
this podcast, I am proud of you. I'm proud of
you for for going every day and being a teacher and.

Speaker 2 (01:00:45):
Taking this ship.

Speaker 4 (01:00:48):
You are such a certified giving Rachel Flowers in this way.

Speaker 3 (01:00:56):
Thank you so much for being here today and subject
acting yourself to our podcast.

Speaker 4 (01:01:04):
I can do this all day. In fact, please have
me back. We will decode more of the youth.

Speaker 3 (01:01:11):
You know what, if we get another question in this
like this, we're literally you're going to be our number
one call.

Speaker 4 (01:01:18):
I can hop right on.

Speaker 5 (01:01:20):
It was kind of like how they do on the news,
like on the phone, but sky you.

Speaker 4 (01:01:26):
Like, I'm so sorry.

Speaker 5 (01:01:27):
Other famous actor or author or someone or guests that
we have on this podcast, We're.

Speaker 3 (01:01:31):
Going, yeah, sorry, that's you would be our correspondent.

Speaker 2 (01:01:37):
You've carved out your niche in our show.

Speaker 4 (01:01:40):
Right, let's do this against guys.

Speaker 3 (01:01:43):
Okay, we love it. We're gonna let you go and
have an amazing day and and spread the word about
the d One. Certified Dick Ride is for the masses.
What's going down?

Speaker 1 (01:01:54):
Jon Altha, Okay, bye, by god, that was so much fun.

Speaker 3 (01:02:01):
He's so great the certified d like so he was
so good at answering questions.

Speaker 2 (01:02:07):
It's connecting with the crew. It is it's.

Speaker 3 (01:02:11):
Connecting with the crew. Okay, that was incredible. I cannot
wait to have him back for all the things in
the future. Let's call this the end of the episode.