October 31, 2025 • 35 mins
No beating around the bush, Jess and Camilla call out the ‘hair on underwear’ trend, facelift fails, and the beauty treatment you SHOULDN’T try!
Plus, move over Ralph Lauren…how Camilla is decking the halls her way, and why she’s OK being called ‘tacky’ when it comes to a cherished holiday tradition.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Call It What It Is with Jessica Capshaw and Camil Luddington,
an iHeartRadio podcast. Well, Hello, Hello, Hello, Hello Call It crew,
and welcome to another episode of Call It What It Is,
(00:22):
trending topics long underwear with Pubic Care. Yeah, we're driving
right into skims.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
That's what we're doing because there's really there's nothing that
you can say before it that means anything. So we
spend all this time and money getting hair taken off
of our bodies, and Kim has decided that we need
it back on our bodies.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
But not just back on, like we're going to pay
thirty two dollars to have it back on the body.
I think we've had multiple conversations over the past week
about this. I thought it was a joke.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
When you first heard it, Did you think it was
real or did you think it was a joke.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
I thought it was like a stunt, you know, like
a stunt cell. And I thought, I mean, look at me, yeah, yeah,
just to like I get it, like get some press
out there for skims, right. But I thought, like, no
one's going to be buying this, right, like, absolutely nobody.
It sold out. It was sold out within hours and
there's a weightless you found me out? Oh yeah, how
(01:25):
did you did you get all? Did you? Did you
know that there are twelve different hair textures and shades? Yes,
I did, because I did the same homework that you did,
So I.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Did know that.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Okay, let's I wondered if my own body makes twelve
different shades? Is what I actually wondered. Yeah, because it
seems like a very specific number.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
So maybe someone did some research and they found out
that we all have twelve different shades of hair down there,
and so this was actually really an attempt to get
it right.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Well, I appreciate whatever research. Can I tell you where
I was? Yeah? Can I tell you where I was
when I found out of it? I thought it was
a joke.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Yeah, you know how really important things had happened.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
You always remember where you were when? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
of course this was evidently a very important moment, core memory,
like inside eye.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Well, because it feels like like like thongs that have
pubic care on them should be something that you find.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Out an intimate setting.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Sure, or it's a it's an intimate item at the
very least. I was a work I sent around the
cast chairs and Wannie said, hey, and she said it,
and I thought it was a joke.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
She said, wow.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
I don't even remember exactly what she said, but she
said something like Skims is making thong underwear.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
That has pubic care on the front. They're not. And
then you get instantly where you like, hang on, I
told you I ordered them all that was breaking news.
I was there first. You all snooze and you all lost. Lose,
you lose, Okay. I I have been thinking about this
for a week because I do know, right, there's different
(03:09):
shades as different textures, you know, when you're like buying
foundation and you need to go find your match. Like
I'm wondering if you go to Skims, is there some
sort of like, hey, I don't know what I am,
like a shade matcher, like a hair shade matcher, and
then what that process really looks like, because what if
(03:31):
you want to wear that, like it's a great Valentine reveal,
and then your husband or your boyfriend or whoever is like,
I'm not sure that was the right texture for you. Honestly,
I don't. I don't know. I just I just don't know. Okay,
(03:54):
let me I'm going to ask you a question, Okay,
but I.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Also just just because you're talking about shade, let's just
finish this round it out with there's shade the color
of it.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
But then I also, you know how like sometimes they
will show you, they'll do the thing where they can
like show you, like show me this in a room
so you get like the proportions, like the size of it.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Right are you are you talking about it? Are you talking? Wait?
Just are you talking about the three D visual? Like
if you want my canoe rug, you can put the
three D visual in the room safe of matches. You're
(04:35):
wondering if they have a three D visual for the
songs the Murkin. Oh yes, that's exactly what I'm wondering.
You can see where it comes to goes to just
how it fits, how it fits. That is absolutely amazing.
I hope that Kim is listening right now. Please add
(04:59):
it to the added to the website.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Well, she's already sold out of them, so she's not
trying to already sold out.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
She doesn't need the three D. She doesn't need the
three D I need it, No, no, no, but it's
the ultimate bush.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
So also, you know, it made me think about the
fact that there's Trent well, obviously we're talking about trending
topics here today, but you know, I mean back in
the seventies, a big bush was where it was at.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
It was it was where it was at. Right if
you if you were told, like in order to save
the world you have to purchase one, be honest, would
you go for curly hair or straight? But also to
be honest, like I do like how straight is straight?
Like it's a it's like a it's like a straightening
iron sort of. I don't know, I'm just have how
(05:40):
silky is it? Okay, what are you buying? I think
the only way the world gets like touch? Oh yeah?
It was like I don't know, you need a hands
on moment with them before you'd pick.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
But you know they're saying it is like a return
to the seventies, So I guess, my, my, I guess
my point in just saying any of this is like
we've gone full circle.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
We went big bush, we moved into no bush.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Yeah, now there's there was also like a skinny bush.
I mean, I don't even know what a skinny bush
would be, what like a different size like a g
LP one bush. No, But I mean, like maybe I
don't think you can even have a skinny bush because
they are there are two opposing ideas, right, skinny and bushy.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
I don't know. Maybe it's a section. There's just one section,
like a lawn, you know what I mean, like to
the side.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Well, here's what I have to say to just finish
up this these thoughts is that it worked.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
It's sold out in minutes, sold And she's genius. Clearly
she's genius. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
And also I love that she said it was it
was fun. It was like a fun, silly idea. And
so there and here we.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Are, they're flying off the shelves. Yep. All right. The
next thing I want to talk about is a lot
of chatter to do with our piticular industry on facelifts
in the last like I don't know, ten days, I
feel like it's just been a lot like Hollywood actors
getting a facelift. Here's the first thing I want to say.
(07:13):
I heard this really interesting point that someone made, and
it's like, the face that you have made you famous
is what got you cast is the thing that's very
recognizable on you. So it's really bonkers to something that
you would change it, But you would.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Change it, right, like that is the face. But do
you think that they think they're changing? And I think
that they think that they're keeping it the way it was.
I think all the efforts are about.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Isn't it staying young?
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Or yeah, preservation, but like hitting pause, just like stopping
that moment. So I think I think that they think,
whoever's doing this, they think that they're keeping the face
that made them famous.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
And they don't they don't know the real gamble. It
is a game gamble. I have a theory that might
be a little bit like controversial. I think that surprised.
I do think that you avoid the upper bluff. I
(08:15):
think for.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Those who don't know what that is, I mean I do,
because you keep calling it.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
You keep being like the upper bluff, the upper bluff
everybody knows is if they don't. I didn't, so you
didn't know what then? Apple Leff was no, o, what's
the stand for? What's the whole word bluff? But Leff,
what is the whole word blufferostomy bluffer bleforama? I have
(08:39):
no idea A technical plastic okay, wait, hang on, my
heart sweeping and what is it?
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Okay, Jessica, it's what's the actual full name Brett Bleffer plasty.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Bleffer plasty, a blefs of plasty. And to say what
it is, it.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
It's a removal of like excess skin on the job right.
That sounds sexual to me a little bit, and I
job sure it's more of like a removal of the
upper skin. Right. That doesn't sound sexual. That doesn't sound sexual.
Here's here's what I think happens. So I think, first off,
(09:21):
hooded eyelids are I don't know why people are getting
rid of hooded eyelids. I think they're like so gorgeous
on people. But I think that there's a trend steering
away from like the hooded eyelid. But I think that
it opens some people's eyes up so much that they
look like a white walker looking into your soul. You
(09:48):
know what I'm talking about, Jazz, Yeah, I do.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Yeah, like you might get like the demon demon before
they suck it out.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
You don't need to come out looking possessed.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
No, But this, this is the gamble that I don't
understand because Okay, that's why it's so strange. I think
the exact opposite of what I think other people are thinking.
I think that if you're in the public eye.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
You should not do it. I think that you run
way too high a risk of getting it wrong.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
And you know, there are people now who are really
well known for it, and they're talked about, and I
wonder if they know that they are.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
I think that one hundred percent that they know that
they are, and that they kind of And then the
problem is, I feel like, what damage control do you
do I have? How do you want to do it? Yeah?
I think that there is an age also where like
it does sort of reverse time. But I think if
you do it too early, it actually just gives it
almost ages you because it almost looks like, oh, you
(10:47):
got a facelift. Does that make sense? I think that
it's not. I think that there's a certain age where
it like doesn't do what we're all to Rihanna is
hoping it does. Listen, if I could you go do
something that made me like twenty five again, I don't
know if I wouldn't do it. Actually, there's a point
where I'm telling you I'm just scared.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Yes, because it's like the permanence of it. I don't
like the evidence of it, and I don't like that
I would not be able to hide. No, it is
so it has to go to work with whatever it
was that I decided, whatever it happened, and like just
hold my head up high like I hadn't done a thing.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
I mean, if you belie you could made your head
up high. What if you were botched? Yeah, and I had. Okay,
well that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
And I but I but I would you know, I
wouldn't you just try to remain normal.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Wouldn't you just try to act like it hadn't happened. Well,
I think yes, you would, of course you do. But
I think also like there's so much scrutiny on how
everyone looks in the industry that like it's it's all
it's a vicious cycle, right of like scrutiny on how
you look, then you feel self conscious. Maybe you want
to tweak something now that looks different. Now there's scrutiny
(11:56):
on that. I don't know, got to be a Domino effie.
Oh okay, but you know, Chris j Are very publicly.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Talked about the facelift that she got this summer, and
then everyone was talking about the doctor that did it,
and I mean it was published that you know how
expensive the doctor was.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
And everything else. Night and then I started thinking, Wow,
this is crazy, right because if it's if you know.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
How much it is for someone like Chris Jenner to
go get a facelift, then does anything less than that
seem like you're getting a facelift on sale?
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Does it seem like a discount facelift?
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Are you are people assigning value to how much it costs?
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Yeah? Are you only spending how much you have? Like?
How does getting how do you find the doctors? Again?
It all just seems like a really, really risky situation.
It does. I have a question for you? Yeah, I
feel like I know the answer and the answer is
going to annoy me instantly. Can't wait for this. Are
(12:53):
you in group seven?
Speaker 2 (12:55):
I am?
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Oh my god, I knew you would be. I It's
so of course you are. Can I what happened to me?
I was seeing all the girl I was like, what's
group seven? And then I thought that I got assigned
group seven? And I was like, oh my god, I'm
like awkward, I'm in group seven. I realized it was
(13:18):
a repost, which doesn't count. You have to come across
the original. Okay, so it's Sophia James. Okay, she posted
the seven videos a social experiment, right, like a seven videos.
She numbered them group one through seven and seven. Got
whoever ended up in seven? Like for some reason, it's
taken off and it's like the it group of the assignment.
(13:40):
I didn't come across one of Sophia James' oh original videos.
I came across a repost. I thought I was assigned seven.
I was like, that makes sense, of course, you got
your hopes up, got my hopes up. Was really like
enjoying the discourse around it. Realized it was a repost.
Came across her Group four. It's okay, It's okay. I
(14:01):
don't know. It's just like six seven. It's just like skivity.
It doesn't mean anything. It's not real. Here's the thing,
here's the crazy part. People in group seven are getting
brand deals. Jessica, wait do I who do I need
to call? I don't know. I'm not going to give
(14:23):
you the names at all. No Group four need some
brand deals, you guys. It's feeling. It's honestly stressed me out.
This week.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
I went to go do uh Live with Kelly Rippa
and Mark Kenzwelis this last week and we did a
funny little TikTok. Where Kelly and I are in Group seven.
We're so excited and we're celebrating. We're celebrating.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Likely not so much. He's not in a group. He's
not in a group. It's very it happens when you're not.
I think it's like, oh oh, oh, oh my god, Jessica. Wait.
Also in Los Angeles, they had a Group seven meet
up at like a bar, and everyone that was in
Group seven met up and they're like making all these
(15:21):
like social videos of them having the time of their lives. Yeah,
it's it's actually incredible. It is. It should be studied.
But I don't understand where group four meeting. I haven't
gotten the invite meaning, and we're gonna have to think.
We're gonna have to figure that one out. Okay, moving on. Yes,
I love this one. Can you tell me about it
(15:41):
because I don't get it? Okay, Oh, I can't wait
to talk about this. This is very Camilla like Chef's Kiss. Okay,
so complete strangers on the internet are connecting. They're bonding
over having the same dream and we're talking about mall world.
(16:03):
Have you not heard about this at all? No? No, Okay,
it's really crazy. It's this viral trend on TikTok and
redd it. People are dreaming of the same place. And
basically it's this maze like indoor world of malls and
it's all connected to like different things. So so it's empty, right,
(16:26):
and then there's like an airport and then there's an
amusement park that's another part of it. And it's really
taken off because this girl is like, I dream almost
every night about going to this mall and everyone's like, wait,
I go to that same mall in my dreams. And
then she made this huge like poster of like and
(16:48):
she drew out the world and people are like, oh
my god, that's where I go. And so, Jessica, that
just wound me up because I'm so excited about my world. Sorry, sorry, sorry,
go on, go on. Do you feel like that because
you just haven't been there to that mall? Yeah? Sure
(17:09):
in my dreams? Sure? Yeah, no I have I've not
been there. I mean I haven't been there either, but
like have you, No, I haven't. But I I do
think that there's this like I think that there's this
weird unconscious connection that people are maybe failing. This is
(17:31):
gonna end an alien it's not going to end an aliens.
I pause, because I did think about it for a second, like,
could it I'll be connected to aliens. It's I don't
think this one is. Though. I don't think this one is.
I do think there's realm. This is not my usual stance.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Usually I'm very you know, I'm the one that believes
everything and likes, you know, walking on the sunny side
of the street with optimism and really believing that all
these people had the same dream of the same mall.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
But well, do you think it's these people are lying?
Not today, Camilla, I don't feel this way today. You're
against mall world. Okay. I wasn't respecting that dress. I
thought that you would know a little bit. You're intrigued
by this.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
M M.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Okay, right, we'll moving on. Clearly that's hit Jessica doesn't
believe in all world. Everybody, if you've been to the mall,
and you've been to the world, and you've been to
the airport and all the things like hit us up
in the comments, Yeah, prove it. How are they going
to prove that? That's my boy? Thank god? Okay, moving on.
I thought we'd spend at least twenty minutes on Mall World.
(18:35):
But never mind. Next up is Ralph Lauring Christmas. Tell
me that I mean, I mean obsessed. Well, actually, you're
the first person I thought of because a lot of
people are like, hey, I want to do Ralph Luring Christmas.
(18:56):
And then have you heard a millennial grade, right, which
is like we all have gray homes? Yeah right, okay, yeah,
Like there's a lot of people like, I want to
do Ralph Lauren Christmas, but I have a millennial gray home,
and everyone in the comments is like, you can't do it,
like just give up, Like there's no way you could
emulate it. And you're the first person I thought about
because your home in New York is very Ralph Lahrenni.
(19:21):
I could do it, you could do it. I do
it know if I can. But let's describe. Let's say
what it is.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Okay, So a Ralph Lauren Christmas is probably if you've
seen any Ralph Lauren ad in your life, you could
probably conjure an image of what a Ralph Lauren Christmas is.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
I think that.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
It's you know, it's deep greens. It's not break greens,
it's deep colors. In general, I think it's probably like
jewel tones, and it probably feels very rich. I don't
know if it costs a lot. It doesn't need to
cost a lot.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
No, it doesn't look like it costs a lot. Yes,
I mean no, it's it's there's a lot of places
that are doing Ralph florin Christmas on a budget, but
you wouldn't know that it's on a budget. It's a
lot of you'ret to the.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Deep, yes, but you're manestick to the deep and the
natural greenery and a little bit less, you know, a
little bit less perfect, like not so manicured within an
inch of its life, a little more organic the green,
the greenery and all that stuff.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
And then you're definitely using a lot of velvets and
or plaids. But I mean specifically, I've seen a lot
of bows on tree trees this year, which I haven't
done yet, but I might have to do now yep.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
And then if you pick a plaid, I mean, depending
on how many rooms you're decorating, you you go with
that plaid. You don't start mixing plaids. You're not doing
a black watch plaid and then a tart plaid, you
know what I mean, Like you got to find a plaid.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
I kind of want to do a Ralph Florine Christmas
that I didn't know about the mixing of the plaids.
And I'd seen online like some green pillows that I
thought would go with red pillows. And now I've been
told that's that's a no go. Yeah, no, no, I
can't do that, No, no no. And then also you
don't get gift bags.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Everything is wrapped, I mean, by the way, probably wrap
with plaid fabric.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Yeah, this is where I do draw the line. Okay,
you can you need a gift bag. I just think
that like what I'm seeing when it comes to the
gifts is under the true well it depends, Okay, So
like I don't have my gifts out. Some people put
their gifts under the tree the whole season, right like
as they get a gift, it goes under the tree.
(21:30):
I don't do that. First off, I have four dogs.
Those gifts would be destroyed in two seconds. I do
on Christmas Eve. The gifts come down when you place
them under the tree. It's like a fun little thing
we do. I don't think I actually like all the
wrapping paper looking like all different. I don't need it
to all look like one perfect situation. M M. Do
(21:52):
you have opinions when it comes to wrapping paper? Oh
my god, I knew it. Come on then what you
gotta pick a lane? You do?
Speaker 2 (22:02):
You gotta pick it?
Speaker 1 (22:03):
Yes, you gotta pick a lane. You got you talk
about amen?
Speaker 2 (22:06):
For your holiday papers, they have to look good together
under the tree. And the only the only way that anything,
you know, I don't the only way that. I mean,
even when you receive gifts from other people, since they
obviously don't know your color way.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Choice for that year, you gotta put it in a
different part of the tree.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
And or it's maybe just they think they're aside and
stop it. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
They get confiscated, like if you've just it's gonna be
like a green under the tree. And then I send
you some sort of purple gift.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Listen, I told you I love Rob Lauren Christmas. And
I think that I like it because it's it's in
line with how I like to do it. I like
it to all look good as one little picture. So
you're also not like you're not having like crazy bright lights.
You're having candles and fireplaces, and then you're not having
like signs that.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Are like.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
No, no, no, none of that. I mean you can
say it, you can still say it, but you can't
don't write it down, and.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
You can't write it put it in no text any no, no, no,
you're classical. You're not doing tinsel.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
You're doing it like textures, like wood textures and velvet
and brass. I have little the reindeer, the bells. Put
those on my door, so whenevery, whenever you open the door, here.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
A little jingle. I do have those. I do have
a gingle. And like I said, the consistency is the key.
You're creating a vibe, You're creating.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
An energy around Christmas, and whether it says Ralph Lauren
or you know whatever, it should just, in my opinion
be consistent. But I think that the Ralph Lauren thing
is pretty great.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
I have I do have a bone to pick with
people on social media about the way they describe different
Christmas like decor aesthetics, right, because I have learned that
I do love a nineties style Christmas tree in my
in my living room, right. So I do love the
(24:06):
old school pinky color lights. I love like all the
mismatching ornaments. Yes, I don't do tinsel, but like tinsel?
Couldn't You could do tinsel with my kind of tree.
I've heard it. Can you say lights? Are you saying
colored lights or the white ones? No? Not white lights.
I like the color lights, yes, but I don't like
(24:27):
led lights. You know who loves the lights that I like? Josie.
We've talked about this. Yes, Josie loves the lights she has,
she knows. Yep, that's my Christmas aesthetic. According to social media,
it's called a TACKI Christmas dress. Oh no, yeah, no, no,
(24:48):
nogic Christmas. Not a cozy tacky your tacky Christmas. I
don't know. Maybe I love attackic Christmas. Actually I do
love ATTACKI Christmas. You definitely do.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
And I think that I think that's a wrong name
for it, though I know, I think it needs to
be rebranded. Yeah, I don't know what the word is though.
Can you think of one?
Speaker 1 (25:11):
Nostalgic? It's for nineties kids, don't you think, like, yeah,
when you grew up, did you have a white light
tree or did you have a twinkly color when.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
I was a kid, I think kids always want colored lights,
and I think adults always want white lights and we
usually switch back and forth where you get to choose.
They do yeah, yeah, But but lately I've been like,
you know what, I really don't want the Christmas memory
to be like no, Mom said no to my colored
Christmas tree lights?
Speaker 1 (25:39):
Are you going to do a true because I don't
think that you can do Here's the thing. I don't
think you can do raffleur and Christmas with the color
lights or Kenny, you can, yes, yes, yes, I think
oh you can. How. I really want to know how?
Because I can't. You can't. You know what?
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Christmas trees will be up soon enough, So let's just
let's make a promise, a pinky promise that will post them.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Love it it. I have one last bone to pick,
and this is the week to do it. Do it.
(26:20):
It's Halloween week. Yes, I hate trunk or treats. I
don't know what that is? Are you serious? I don't,
Oh my god, what it is? The new way that
people are trick or treating or they'm not going door
to door. They're like you line up your cars and
(26:42):
you open the trunk and you've like maybe decorated your
trunk and you have candy in And I just think
that it's seriously, it's taking over like everyone's doing truble. Yes,
and either like Halloween.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
On the move, like why put it in the trunk?
It's taking places? Are you taking it on the road?
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Tailgate for Halloween? Tailgate? TACKI Halloween, it's not even it's
just like sad to me, like you're not getting that
like knock not knock hate, you know, like you're not
getting that like memory of it. Huh. And I just
think they have to people have to stop. M okay,
(27:18):
I don't understand why. I don't understand why they're doing
I would love to know why they're doing it. I
don't know the story of the trunk retreat. Yeah, well,
if anyone knows, let us know. Yeah, yeah, sorry, it's
just the week to bring it up. It's the week
to bring it up. And it's been happening for too
long on my watch, So I feel okay.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
So well, speaking of Halloween, Uh, there's a big you know,
you're you're either it's a it's it's you're either in
or you're out of this club? Are you an adult
that dresses up? I already know the answer, go ahead.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
Of course, yes, yes, And can I tell you what
I did this year. I don't know if I'm gonna
wear them this year. I spent money, like a couple
hundred dollars ats to get replica ruby slippers in my size. Yeah,
not expecting that. Wow. Yeah, and I might. I don't
(28:15):
know if I'm going to be Dorothy like, I might
change my mind. I have the rest or you're just
going No, I just know I'm just naked with the
shoes out, all these skims songs that you got agains
the slips. No, I haven't. I haven't committed to the
whole costume yet, but I'm definitely. I like to go
out and do and and and with the kids and
do that. But we do not do a whole family theme.
(28:38):
Yeah yeah, yeah, no what about I always look at
it and go, that's cute. But no, I don't do
that either. And I guess what you do. Yeah, I
don't think you commit respected. I don't think you commit
to a whole costume, but I do think you do.
Like cute little cat ears or cute little like bat
(28:58):
like little headband. You're so my best to you know
me so well? Is it true? It's completely true, completely true.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
And I never I never plan it I always think
I'm not going to dress up, and then it like
the day comes and I feel compelled to grab something,
and yes it's it's been easy to grab some kitty
caddiers and draw on some whiskers and a little nose.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
So yes, I have. I've been a cat quite a
few times. Oh okay, what are the kids going as well?
Speaker 2 (29:30):
I don't know if this happened in your house yet,
but they just they pulled a fast one, like a
couple of years ago, where they actually want to costumes.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
They have like a day costume and a night costume. Yes, yes,
I'm dealing with this. It's this morning. I've already got
on costume. There needs a there's an outfit change, almost
like in a wedding. Yes exactly.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
It's like the after party dress, the reception dress which
you did at your wedding with I did I.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
Love that change, which I can deal with that a wedding,
but on Halloween I don't need Okay, So what is
what is the situation in your household? So?
Speaker 2 (30:05):
I mean, I can't even keep track of it, to
be honest, And it's next week and I'm living in
the present these days because there's you know a lot
to keep track of.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
So, I mean, what's Josie going at She's the baby
of the family. Well, honestly, she keeps changing it on us.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
She's like a shark and then she's what does she
says she has a shark costume? On day she she.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
She said something about something else recently, like.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Yesterday she was like, we got to order blah blah
blah what we have the costume? I will say, I
know it's probably on the lazier side of costumes, but
they crack me up.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
The blow ups, the inflatables.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Came out with the t rex and the little arms
and was like, I mean we were paying our pants laughing.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
I do love the inflatables. They're hilarious. They're amazing. Hayden
just did the outfit changed to me last night? Actually, okay, great?
So what she be? So she was going to be
or she is going to be daytime a K pop
demon hunter right roomy, and there's gonna be well do
we I mean I do. I I love it. I
understand why she's doing it, but there's gonna be that's
(31:13):
that's the only Halloween costume that we're gonna see out.
There's gonna be a lot. There's me many, it's gonna
be a room full of roomies. But we have listen,
I'm gonna learn to do that purple braid. I'm gonna
do the whole thing, right, Yeah. Then she drops it
on me. She's like, mom, you know it's just like
a day colstume, right, And I was like no, I
didn't know that. And she was like, no, at night,
(31:34):
I'm going to be a vampire. And I was like, yeah,
well we don't have that. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Yeah, Well here's the thing. I appreciate this moment because
there's going to be a day. It's probably not gonna
be next year, but it's going there's going to be
a day where it's not just a vampire for her
nighttime change.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
It's gonna be a sexy vampire. Yeah, slooty vampire. Well
I don't think that's a preferred term. Well I mean it.
Well it is for mean girls in mean girls, she says.
And it's like where you can dress up like a
slut is like the quote right, Yeah, no, I know,
I know I need that not to happen.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
Like ever, well, I've got some karma coming my way
because there were many, many, many a sexy fill in
the blank costume in my course.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
In my younger years. Oh my god, wait, I have
to share this super embarrassing story about one of my
Halloween costumes. Okay, I actually like this is so cringey,
and I feel like people may have like taken a
picture of me and it might be out there somewhere. Okay.
The year The Heroes came out, I kept getting told,
(32:45):
because I was very blonde, that I look like Hayden Penetier, right,
and that like you could be on Heroes. I was
eating tables at the set at the time, right, So
I was like, that's what I had to work that Halloween.
I had to wait tables. And I thought, all, get
a red cheerleader costume and like some blood and it'll
be like save the Cheerleaders, save the world. And so
I got it. But then I was like, well, no
(33:07):
one's gonna maybe know well, people might not know who
I am, so I'll just write heroes across it and like,
you know, that'll be good, right. So I did that
and I had a great grand all time. Years later,
I'm looking at the photos, right, Jessica, I I'm like
scringing so bad right now, I spelled heroes wrong. I
(33:30):
spelled it h E R e o's and I wore
that all night waiting on tables. I was hot. I
actually would like, I actually want thinking about this, and
I if I was somebody was waiting on me and
they spelt it like that, I would have peed my
(33:52):
pants and I won one hundred percent. Would have taken
a picture of them. I'm like, this idiot is absolute moron.
She's she's going no wear a life.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
So now.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
I deeply it's just such a cringey memory. We did
make it, Thank God that I'm not like, you know,
hosting a spelling bee or something. Do you know you
don't know this? Do you know?
Speaker 2 (34:15):
One of my favorite things ever is spelling as an activity.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
That's the most annoying thing you said, maybe, ever, what
do you mean? Like? What does I look like?
Speaker 2 (34:28):
You're just randomly being like, how do you spell? And
then they say the word I like that, Like I
would like to be a part of a spelling bee.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
Oh my god, I love I love I love it lovely.
That's incredible, especially when it's tricky. Really, Okay, you know what,
We'll do an episode where I throw out a couple
midway through. You're not going to know where they're coming. Yeah.
I want to make them really hard. Yeah you should. Okay,
(34:58):
oh my god, this is this is we look forward to.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
All Right, Okay, I think we covered the trending topics
and then some I think we did too.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
Good job. Yeah, Happy Halloween, everybody, and let's copy Halloween.
Let's call it the end of the eisode.
Call It What It Is with Jessica Capshaw and Camil Luddington,
an iHeartRadio podcast. Well, Hello, Hello, Hello, Hello Call It crew,
and welcome to another episode of Call It What It Is,
(00:22):
trending topics long underwear with Pubic Care. Yeah, we're driving
right into skims.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
That's what we're doing because there's really there's nothing that
you can say before it that means anything. So we
spend all this time and money getting hair taken off
of our bodies, and Kim has decided that we need
it back on our bodies.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
But not just back on, like we're going to pay
thirty two dollars to have it back on the body.
I think we've had multiple conversations over the past week
about this. I thought it was a joke.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
When you first heard it, Did you think it was
real or did you think it was a joke.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
I thought it was like a stunt, you know, like
a stunt cell. And I thought, I mean, look at me, yeah, yeah,
just to like I get it, like get some press
out there for skims, right. But I thought, like, no
one's going to be buying this, right, like, absolutely nobody.
It sold out. It was sold out within hours and
there's a weightless you found me out? Oh yeah, how
(01:25):
did you did you get all? Did you? Did you
know that there are twelve different hair textures and shades? Yes,
I did, because I did the same homework that you did,
So I.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Did know that.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Okay, let's I wondered if my own body makes twelve
different shades? Is what I actually wondered. Yeah, because it
seems like a very specific number.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
So maybe someone did some research and they found out
that we all have twelve different shades of hair down there,
and so this was actually really an attempt to get
it right.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Well, I appreciate whatever research. Can I tell you where
I was? Yeah? Can I tell you where I was
when I found out of it? I thought it was
a joke.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Yeah, you know how really important things had happened.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
You always remember where you were when? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
of course this was evidently a very important moment, core memory,
like inside eye.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Well, because it feels like like like thongs that have
pubic care on them should be something that you find.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Out an intimate setting.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Sure, or it's a it's an intimate item at the
very least. I was a work I sent around the
cast chairs and Wannie said, hey, and she said it,
and I thought it was a joke.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
She said, wow.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
I don't even remember exactly what she said, but she
said something like Skims is making thong underwear.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
That has pubic care on the front. They're not. And
then you get instantly where you like, hang on, I
told you I ordered them all that was breaking news.
I was there first. You all snooze and you all lost. Lose,
you lose, Okay. I I have been thinking about this
for a week because I do know, right, there's different
(03:09):
shades as different textures, you know, when you're like buying
foundation and you need to go find your match. Like
I'm wondering if you go to Skims, is there some
sort of like, hey, I don't know what I am,
like a shade matcher, like a hair shade matcher, and
then what that process really looks like, because what if
(03:31):
you want to wear that, like it's a great Valentine reveal,
and then your husband or your boyfriend or whoever is like,
I'm not sure that was the right texture for you. Honestly,
I don't. I don't know. I just I just don't know. Okay,
(03:54):
let me I'm going to ask you a question, Okay,
but I.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Also just just because you're talking about shade, let's just
finish this round it out with there's shade the color
of it.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
But then I also, you know how like sometimes they
will show you, they'll do the thing where they can
like show you, like show me this in a room
so you get like the proportions, like the size of it.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Right are you are you talking about it? Are you talking? Wait?
Just are you talking about the three D visual? Like
if you want my canoe rug, you can put the
three D visual in the room safe of matches. You're
(04:35):
wondering if they have a three D visual for the
songs the Murkin. Oh yes, that's exactly what I'm wondering.
You can see where it comes to goes to just
how it fits, how it fits. That is absolutely amazing.
I hope that Kim is listening right now. Please add
(04:59):
it to the added to the website.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Well, she's already sold out of them, so she's not
trying to already sold out.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
She doesn't need the three D. She doesn't need the
three D I need it, No, no, no, but it's
the ultimate bush.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
So also, you know, it made me think about the
fact that there's Trent well, obviously we're talking about trending
topics here today, but you know, I mean back in
the seventies, a big bush was where it was at.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
It was it was where it was at. Right if
you if you were told, like in order to save
the world you have to purchase one, be honest, would
you go for curly hair or straight? But also to
be honest, like I do like how straight is straight?
Like it's a it's like a it's like a straightening
iron sort of. I don't know, I'm just have how
(05:40):
silky is it? Okay, what are you buying? I think
the only way the world gets like touch? Oh yeah?
It was like I don't know, you need a hands
on moment with them before you'd pick.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
But you know they're saying it is like a return
to the seventies, So I guess, my, my, I guess
my point in just saying any of this is like
we've gone full circle.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
We went big bush, we moved into no bush.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Yeah, now there's there was also like a skinny bush.
I mean, I don't even know what a skinny bush
would be, what like a different size like a g
LP one bush. No, But I mean, like maybe I
don't think you can even have a skinny bush because
they are there are two opposing ideas, right, skinny and bushy.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
I don't know. Maybe it's a section. There's just one section,
like a lawn, you know what I mean, like to
the side.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Well, here's what I have to say to just finish
up this these thoughts is that it worked.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
It's sold out in minutes, sold And she's genius. Clearly
she's genius. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
And also I love that she said it was it
was fun. It was like a fun, silly idea. And
so there and here we.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Are, they're flying off the shelves. Yep. All right. The
next thing I want to talk about is a lot
of chatter to do with our piticular industry on facelifts
in the last like I don't know, ten days, I
feel like it's just been a lot like Hollywood actors
getting a facelift. Here's the first thing I want to say.
(07:13):
I heard this really interesting point that someone made, and
it's like, the face that you have made you famous
is what got you cast is the thing that's very
recognizable on you. So it's really bonkers to something that
you would change it, But you would.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Change it, right, like that is the face. But do
you think that they think they're changing? And I think
that they think that they're keeping it the way it was.
I think all the efforts are about.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Isn't it staying young?
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Or yeah, preservation, but like hitting pause, just like stopping
that moment. So I think I think that they think,
whoever's doing this, they think that they're keeping the face
that made them famous.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
And they don't they don't know the real gamble. It
is a game gamble. I have a theory that might
be a little bit like controversial. I think that surprised.
I do think that you avoid the upper bluff. I
(08:15):
think for.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Those who don't know what that is, I mean I do,
because you keep calling it.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
You keep being like the upper bluff, the upper bluff
everybody knows is if they don't. I didn't, so you
didn't know what then? Apple Leff was no, o, what's
the stand for? What's the whole word bluff? But Leff,
what is the whole word blufferostomy bluffer bleforama? I have
(08:39):
no idea A technical plastic okay, wait, hang on, my
heart sweeping and what is it?
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Okay, Jessica, it's what's the actual full name Brett Bleffer plasty.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Bleffer plasty, a blefs of plasty. And to say what
it is, it.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
It's a removal of like excess skin on the job right.
That sounds sexual to me a little bit, and I
job sure it's more of like a removal of the
upper skin. Right. That doesn't sound sexual. That doesn't sound sexual.
Here's here's what I think happens. So I think, first off,
(09:21):
hooded eyelids are I don't know why people are getting
rid of hooded eyelids. I think they're like so gorgeous
on people. But I think that there's a trend steering
away from like the hooded eyelid. But I think that
it opens some people's eyes up so much that they
look like a white walker looking into your soul. You
(09:48):
know what I'm talking about, Jazz, Yeah, I do.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Yeah, like you might get like the demon demon before
they suck it out.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
You don't need to come out looking possessed.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
No, But this, this is the gamble that I don't
understand because Okay, that's why it's so strange. I think
the exact opposite of what I think other people are thinking.
I think that if you're in the public eye.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
You should not do it. I think that you run
way too high a risk of getting it wrong.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
And you know, there are people now who are really
well known for it, and they're talked about, and I
wonder if they know that they are.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
I think that one hundred percent that they know that
they are, and that they kind of And then the
problem is, I feel like, what damage control do you
do I have? How do you want to do it? Yeah?
I think that there is an age also where like
it does sort of reverse time. But I think if
you do it too early, it actually just gives it
almost ages you because it almost looks like, oh, you
(10:47):
got a facelift. Does that make sense? I think that
it's not. I think that there's a certain age where
it like doesn't do what we're all to Rihanna is
hoping it does. Listen, if I could you go do
something that made me like twenty five again, I don't
know if I wouldn't do it. Actually, there's a point
where I'm telling you I'm just scared.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Yes, because it's like the permanence of it. I don't
like the evidence of it, and I don't like that
I would not be able to hide. No, it is
so it has to go to work with whatever it
was that I decided, whatever it happened, and like just
hold my head up high like I hadn't done a thing.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
I mean, if you belie you could made your head
up high. What if you were botched? Yeah, and I had. Okay,
well that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
And I but I but I would you know, I
wouldn't you just try to remain normal.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Wouldn't you just try to act like it hadn't happened. Well,
I think yes, you would, of course you do. But
I think also like there's so much scrutiny on how
everyone looks in the industry that like it's it's all
it's a vicious cycle, right of like scrutiny on how
you look, then you feel self conscious. Maybe you want
to tweak something now that looks different. Now there's scrutiny
(11:56):
on that. I don't know, got to be a Domino effie.
Oh okay, but you know, Chris j Are very publicly.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Talked about the facelift that she got this summer, and
then everyone was talking about the doctor that did it,
and I mean it was published that you know how
expensive the doctor was.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
And everything else. Night and then I started thinking, Wow,
this is crazy, right because if it's if you know.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
How much it is for someone like Chris Jenner to
go get a facelift, then does anything less than that
seem like you're getting a facelift on sale?
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Does it seem like a discount facelift?
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Are you are people assigning value to how much it costs?
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Yeah? Are you only spending how much you have? Like?
How does getting how do you find the doctors? Again?
It all just seems like a really, really risky situation.
It does. I have a question for you? Yeah, I
feel like I know the answer and the answer is
going to annoy me instantly. Can't wait for this. Are
(12:53):
you in group seven?
Speaker 2 (12:55):
I am?
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Oh my god, I knew you would be. I It's
so of course you are. Can I what happened to me?
I was seeing all the girl I was like, what's
group seven? And then I thought that I got assigned
group seven? And I was like, oh my god, I'm
like awkward, I'm in group seven. I realized it was
(13:18):
a repost, which doesn't count. You have to come across
the original. Okay, so it's Sophia James. Okay, she posted
the seven videos a social experiment, right, like a seven videos.
She numbered them group one through seven and seven. Got
whoever ended up in seven? Like for some reason, it's
taken off and it's like the it group of the assignment.
(13:40):
I didn't come across one of Sophia James' oh original videos.
I came across a repost. I thought I was assigned seven.
I was like, that makes sense, of course, you got
your hopes up, got my hopes up. Was really like
enjoying the discourse around it. Realized it was a repost.
Came across her Group four. It's okay, It's okay. I
(14:01):
don't know. It's just like six seven. It's just like skivity.
It doesn't mean anything. It's not real. Here's the thing,
here's the crazy part. People in group seven are getting
brand deals. Jessica, wait do I who do I need
to call? I don't know. I'm not going to give
(14:23):
you the names at all. No Group four need some
brand deals, you guys. It's feeling. It's honestly stressed me out.
This week.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
I went to go do uh Live with Kelly Rippa
and Mark Kenzwelis this last week and we did a
funny little TikTok. Where Kelly and I are in Group seven.
We're so excited and we're celebrating. We're celebrating.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Likely not so much. He's not in a group. He's
not in a group. It's very it happens when you're not.
I think it's like, oh oh, oh, oh my god, Jessica. Wait.
Also in Los Angeles, they had a Group seven meet
up at like a bar, and everyone that was in
Group seven met up and they're like making all these
(15:21):
like social videos of them having the time of their lives. Yeah,
it's it's actually incredible. It is. It should be studied.
But I don't understand where group four meeting. I haven't
gotten the invite meaning, and we're gonna have to think.
We're gonna have to figure that one out. Okay, moving on. Yes,
I love this one. Can you tell me about it
(15:41):
because I don't get it? Okay, Oh, I can't wait
to talk about this. This is very Camilla like Chef's Kiss. Okay,
so complete strangers on the internet are connecting. They're bonding
over having the same dream and we're talking about mall world.
(16:03):
Have you not heard about this at all? No? No, Okay,
it's really crazy. It's this viral trend on TikTok and
redd it. People are dreaming of the same place. And
basically it's this maze like indoor world of malls and
it's all connected to like different things. So so it's empty, right,
(16:26):
and then there's like an airport and then there's an
amusement park that's another part of it. And it's really
taken off because this girl is like, I dream almost
every night about going to this mall and everyone's like, wait,
I go to that same mall in my dreams. And
then she made this huge like poster of like and
(16:48):
she drew out the world and people are like, oh
my god, that's where I go. And so, Jessica, that
just wound me up because I'm so excited about my world. Sorry, sorry, sorry,
go on, go on. Do you feel like that because
you just haven't been there to that mall? Yeah? Sure
(17:09):
in my dreams? Sure? Yeah, no I have I've not
been there. I mean I haven't been there either, but
like have you, No, I haven't. But I I do
think that there's this like I think that there's this
weird unconscious connection that people are maybe failing. This is
(17:31):
gonna end an alien it's not going to end an aliens.
I pause, because I did think about it for a second, like,
could it I'll be connected to aliens. It's I don't
think this one is. Though. I don't think this one is.
I do think there's realm. This is not my usual stance.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Usually I'm very you know, I'm the one that believes
everything and likes, you know, walking on the sunny side
of the street with optimism and really believing that all
these people had the same dream of the same mall.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
But well, do you think it's these people are lying?
Not today, Camilla, I don't feel this way today. You're
against mall world. Okay. I wasn't respecting that dress. I
thought that you would know a little bit. You're intrigued
by this.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
M M.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Okay, right, we'll moving on. Clearly that's hit Jessica doesn't
believe in all world. Everybody, if you've been to the mall,
and you've been to the world, and you've been to
the airport and all the things like hit us up
in the comments, Yeah, prove it. How are they going
to prove that? That's my boy? Thank god? Okay, moving on.
I thought we'd spend at least twenty minutes on Mall World.
(18:35):
But never mind. Next up is Ralph Lauring Christmas. Tell
me that I mean, I mean obsessed. Well, actually, you're
the first person I thought of because a lot of
people are like, hey, I want to do Ralph Luring Christmas.
(18:56):
And then have you heard a millennial grade, right, which
is like we all have gray homes? Yeah right, okay, yeah,
Like there's a lot of people like, I want to
do Ralph Lauren Christmas, but I have a millennial gray home,
and everyone in the comments is like, you can't do it,
like just give up, Like there's no way you could
emulate it. And you're the first person I thought about
because your home in New York is very Ralph Lahrenni.
(19:21):
I could do it, you could do it. I do
it know if I can. But let's describe. Let's say
what it is.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Okay, So a Ralph Lauren Christmas is probably if you've
seen any Ralph Lauren ad in your life, you could
probably conjure an image of what a Ralph Lauren Christmas is.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
I think that.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
It's you know, it's deep greens. It's not break greens,
it's deep colors. In general, I think it's probably like
jewel tones, and it probably feels very rich. I don't
know if it costs a lot. It doesn't need to
cost a lot.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
No, it doesn't look like it costs a lot. Yes,
I mean no, it's it's there's a lot of places
that are doing Ralph florin Christmas on a budget, but
you wouldn't know that it's on a budget. It's a
lot of you'ret to the.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Deep, yes, but you're manestick to the deep and the
natural greenery and a little bit less, you know, a
little bit less perfect, like not so manicured within an
inch of its life, a little more organic the green,
the greenery and all that stuff.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
And then you're definitely using a lot of velvets and
or plaids. But I mean specifically, I've seen a lot
of bows on tree trees this year, which I haven't
done yet, but I might have to do now yep.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
And then if you pick a plaid, I mean, depending
on how many rooms you're decorating, you you go with
that plaid. You don't start mixing plaids. You're not doing
a black watch plaid and then a tart plaid, you
know what I mean, Like you got to find a plaid.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
I kind of want to do a Ralph Florine Christmas
that I didn't know about the mixing of the plaids.
And I'd seen online like some green pillows that I
thought would go with red pillows. And now I've been
told that's that's a no go. Yeah, no, no, I
can't do that, No, no no. And then also you
don't get gift bags.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Everything is wrapped, I mean, by the way, probably wrap
with plaid fabric.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Yeah, this is where I do draw the line. Okay,
you can you need a gift bag. I just think
that like what I'm seeing when it comes to the
gifts is under the true well it depends, Okay, So
like I don't have my gifts out. Some people put
their gifts under the tree the whole season, right like
as they get a gift, it goes under the tree.
(21:30):
I don't do that. First off, I have four dogs.
Those gifts would be destroyed in two seconds. I do
on Christmas Eve. The gifts come down when you place
them under the tree. It's like a fun little thing
we do. I don't think I actually like all the
wrapping paper looking like all different. I don't need it
to all look like one perfect situation. M M. Do
(21:52):
you have opinions when it comes to wrapping paper? Oh
my god, I knew it. Come on then what you
gotta pick a lane? You do?
Speaker 2 (22:02):
You gotta pick it?
Speaker 1 (22:03):
Yes, you gotta pick a lane. You got you talk
about amen?
Speaker 2 (22:06):
For your holiday papers, they have to look good together
under the tree. And the only the only way that anything,
you know, I don't the only way that. I mean,
even when you receive gifts from other people, since they
obviously don't know your color way.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Choice for that year, you gotta put it in a
different part of the tree.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
And or it's maybe just they think they're aside and
stop it. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
They get confiscated, like if you've just it's gonna be
like a green under the tree. And then I send
you some sort of purple gift.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Listen, I told you I love Rob Lauren Christmas. And
I think that I like it because it's it's in
line with how I like to do it. I like
it to all look good as one little picture. So
you're also not like you're not having like crazy bright lights.
You're having candles and fireplaces, and then you're not having
like signs that.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Are like.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
No, no, no, none of that. I mean you can
say it, you can still say it, but you can't
don't write it down, and.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
You can't write it put it in no text any no, no, no,
you're classical. You're not doing tinsel.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
You're doing it like textures, like wood textures and velvet
and brass. I have little the reindeer, the bells. Put
those on my door, so whenevery, whenever you open the door, here.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
A little jingle. I do have those. I do have
a gingle. And like I said, the consistency is the key.
You're creating a vibe, You're creating.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
An energy around Christmas, and whether it says Ralph Lauren
or you know whatever, it should just, in my opinion
be consistent. But I think that the Ralph Lauren thing
is pretty great.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
I have I do have a bone to pick with
people on social media about the way they describe different
Christmas like decor aesthetics, right, because I have learned that
I do love a nineties style Christmas tree in my
in my living room, right. So I do love the
(24:06):
old school pinky color lights. I love like all the
mismatching ornaments. Yes, I don't do tinsel, but like tinsel?
Couldn't You could do tinsel with my kind of tree.
I've heard it. Can you say lights? Are you saying
colored lights or the white ones? No? Not white lights.
I like the color lights, yes, but I don't like
(24:27):
led lights. You know who loves the lights that I like? Josie.
We've talked about this. Yes, Josie loves the lights she has,
she knows. Yep, that's my Christmas aesthetic. According to social media,
it's called a TACKI Christmas dress. Oh no, yeah, no, no,
(24:48):
nogic Christmas. Not a cozy tacky your tacky Christmas. I
don't know. Maybe I love attackic Christmas. Actually I do
love ATTACKI Christmas. You definitely do.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
And I think that I think that's a wrong name
for it, though I know, I think it needs to
be rebranded. Yeah, I don't know what the word is though.
Can you think of one?
Speaker 1 (25:11):
Nostalgic? It's for nineties kids, don't you think, like, yeah,
when you grew up, did you have a white light
tree or did you have a twinkly color when.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
I was a kid, I think kids always want colored lights,
and I think adults always want white lights and we
usually switch back and forth where you get to choose.
They do yeah, yeah, But but lately I've been like,
you know what, I really don't want the Christmas memory
to be like no, Mom said no to my colored
Christmas tree lights?
Speaker 1 (25:39):
Are you going to do a true because I don't
think that you can do Here's the thing. I don't
think you can do raffleur and Christmas with the color
lights or Kenny, you can, yes, yes, yes, I think
oh you can. How. I really want to know how?
Because I can't. You can't. You know what?
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Christmas trees will be up soon enough, So let's just
let's make a promise, a pinky promise that will post them.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Love it it. I have one last bone to pick,
and this is the week to do it. Do it.
(26:20):
It's Halloween week. Yes, I hate trunk or treats. I
don't know what that is? Are you serious? I don't,
Oh my god, what it is? The new way that
people are trick or treating or they'm not going door
to door. They're like you line up your cars and
(26:42):
you open the trunk and you've like maybe decorated your
trunk and you have candy in And I just think
that it's seriously, it's taking over like everyone's doing truble. Yes,
and either like Halloween.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
On the move, like why put it in the trunk?
It's taking places? Are you taking it on the road?
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Tailgate for Halloween? Tailgate? TACKI Halloween, it's not even it's
just like sad to me, like you're not getting that
like knock not knock hate, you know, like you're not
getting that like memory of it. Huh. And I just
think they have to people have to stop. M okay,
(27:18):
I don't understand why. I don't understand why they're doing
I would love to know why they're doing it. I
don't know the story of the trunk retreat. Yeah, well,
if anyone knows, let us know. Yeah, yeah, sorry, it's
just the week to bring it up. It's the week
to bring it up. And it's been happening for too
long on my watch, So I feel okay.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
So well, speaking of Halloween, Uh, there's a big you know,
you're you're either it's a it's it's you're either in
or you're out of this club? Are you an adult
that dresses up? I already know the answer, go ahead.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
Of course, yes, yes, And can I tell you what
I did this year. I don't know if I'm gonna
wear them this year. I spent money, like a couple
hundred dollars ats to get replica ruby slippers in my size. Yeah,
not expecting that. Wow. Yeah, and I might. I don't
(28:15):
know if I'm going to be Dorothy like, I might
change my mind. I have the rest or you're just
going No, I just know I'm just naked with the
shoes out, all these skims songs that you got agains
the slips. No, I haven't. I haven't committed to the
whole costume yet, but I'm definitely. I like to go
out and do and and and with the kids and
do that. But we do not do a whole family theme.
(28:38):
Yeah yeah, yeah, no what about I always look at
it and go, that's cute. But no, I don't do
that either. And I guess what you do. Yeah, I
don't think you commit respected. I don't think you commit
to a whole costume, but I do think you do.
Like cute little cat ears or cute little like bat
(28:58):
like little headband. You're so my best to you know
me so well? Is it true? It's completely true, completely true.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
And I never I never plan it I always think
I'm not going to dress up, and then it like
the day comes and I feel compelled to grab something,
and yes it's it's been easy to grab some kitty
caddiers and draw on some whiskers and a little nose.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
So yes, I have. I've been a cat quite a
few times. Oh okay, what are the kids going as well?
Speaker 2 (29:30):
I don't know if this happened in your house yet,
but they just they pulled a fast one, like a
couple of years ago, where they actually want to costumes.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
They have like a day costume and a night costume. Yes, yes,
I'm dealing with this. It's this morning. I've already got
on costume. There needs a there's an outfit change, almost
like in a wedding. Yes exactly.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
It's like the after party dress, the reception dress which
you did at your wedding with I did I.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
Love that change, which I can deal with that a wedding,
but on Halloween I don't need Okay, So what is
what is the situation in your household? So?
Speaker 2 (30:05):
I mean, I can't even keep track of it, to
be honest, And it's next week and I'm living in
the present these days because there's you know a lot
to keep track of.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
So, I mean, what's Josie going at She's the baby
of the family. Well, honestly, she keeps changing it on us.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
She's like a shark and then she's what does she
says she has a shark costume? On day she she.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
She said something about something else recently, like.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Yesterday she was like, we got to order blah blah
blah what we have the costume? I will say, I
know it's probably on the lazier side of costumes, but
they crack me up.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
The blow ups, the inflatables.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Came out with the t rex and the little arms
and was like, I mean we were paying our pants laughing.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
I do love the inflatables. They're hilarious. They're amazing. Hayden
just did the outfit changed to me last night? Actually, okay, great?
So what she be? So she was going to be
or she is going to be daytime a K pop
demon hunter right roomy, and there's gonna be well do
we I mean I do. I I love it. I
understand why she's doing it, but there's gonna be that's
(31:13):
that's the only Halloween costume that we're gonna see out.
There's gonna be a lot. There's me many, it's gonna
be a room full of roomies. But we have listen,
I'm gonna learn to do that purple braid. I'm gonna
do the whole thing, right, Yeah. Then she drops it
on me. She's like, mom, you know it's just like
a day colstume, right, And I was like no, I
didn't know that. And she was like, no, at night,
(31:34):
I'm going to be a vampire. And I was like, yeah,
well we don't have that. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Yeah, Well here's the thing. I appreciate this moment because
there's going to be a day. It's probably not gonna
be next year, but it's going there's going to be
a day where it's not just a vampire for her
nighttime change.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
It's gonna be a sexy vampire. Yeah, slooty vampire. Well
I don't think that's a preferred term. Well I mean it.
Well it is for mean girls in mean girls, she says.
And it's like where you can dress up like a
slut is like the quote right, Yeah, no, I know,
I know I need that not to happen.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
Like ever, well, I've got some karma coming my way
because there were many, many, many a sexy fill in
the blank costume in my course.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
In my younger years. Oh my god, wait, I have
to share this super embarrassing story about one of my
Halloween costumes. Okay, I actually like this is so cringey,
and I feel like people may have like taken a
picture of me and it might be out there somewhere. Okay.
The year The Heroes came out, I kept getting told,
(32:45):
because I was very blonde, that I look like Hayden Penetier, right,
and that like you could be on Heroes. I was
eating tables at the set at the time, right, So
I was like, that's what I had to work that Halloween.
I had to wait tables. And I thought, all, get
a red cheerleader costume and like some blood and it'll
be like save the Cheerleaders, save the world. And so
I got it. But then I was like, well, no
(33:07):
one's gonna maybe know well, people might not know who
I am, so I'll just write heroes across it and like,
you know, that'll be good, right. So I did that
and I had a great grand all time. Years later,
I'm looking at the photos, right, Jessica, I I'm like
scringing so bad right now, I spelled heroes wrong. I
(33:30):
spelled it h E R e o's and I wore
that all night waiting on tables. I was hot. I
actually would like, I actually want thinking about this, and
I if I was somebody was waiting on me and
they spelt it like that, I would have peed my
(33:52):
pants and I won one hundred percent. Would have taken
a picture of them. I'm like, this idiot is absolute moron.
She's she's going no wear a life.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
So now.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
I deeply it's just such a cringey memory. We did
make it, Thank God that I'm not like, you know,
hosting a spelling bee or something. Do you know you
don't know this? Do you know?
Speaker 2 (34:15):
One of my favorite things ever is spelling as an activity.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
That's the most annoying thing you said, maybe, ever, what
do you mean? Like? What does I look like?
Speaker 2 (34:28):
You're just randomly being like, how do you spell? And
then they say the word I like that, Like I
would like to be a part of a spelling bee.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
Oh my god, I love I love I love it lovely.
That's incredible, especially when it's tricky. Really, Okay, you know what,
We'll do an episode where I throw out a couple
midway through. You're not going to know where they're coming. Yeah.
I want to make them really hard. Yeah you should. Okay,
(34:58):
oh my god, this is this is we look forward to.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
All Right, Okay, I think we covered the trending topics
and then some I think we did too.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
Good job. Yeah, Happy Halloween, everybody, and let's copy Halloween.
Let's call it the end of the eisode.
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Jessica Capshaw
Camilla Luddington
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