August 22, 2024 • 29 mins
It’s part 2 with Erin and Charissa’s coworker and friend Kevin Burkhardt. First they give the backstory on Charissa’s infamous game breaks and the different ways she says “KEVIN”. Then they ask Kevin about working with Tom Brady so far to prepare for the upcoming NFL season and what he keeps in his “database”.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Earlier in the year. I was like, you know, we
went to a commercial or practices and like, hey, TV,
Like I know you don't know me well yet, but
like is that cool? Like can I tell you if
something sucks or whatever? He's like, yes, Like please tell me,
like coach me up. I was like, that's pretty cool.
Like so he just he just wants to be great,
he wants to be better, And I think that's been
the really fun part.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Calm Down with Erin and Carissa is a production of iHeartRadio.
All Right, Here we go with part two with our
favorite Kevin Burkhart.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
We talked to him about.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Working with Tom Brady and being his personal photographer. Whope
he's getting paid for that, and why keV doesn't have
a five year plan and apparently, Carissa, he has a
database as a data no tea a database? What does
all that mean? And is it dirty?
Speaker 3 (00:52):
keV?
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Is there I mean probably a game winning obviously played Touchdow.
Is there a certain scenario you dream about calling you
live for you love when that moment happens in a game?
Is there a certain thing that you're.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Like, I I just love I love big plays, I
just love I get so excited, like you know, and
maybe sometimes too over the top excited, but I just
I'm into it, like I'm into it. I mean, I
just it's like the thrill that I had watched in
the NFL as a kid, Like I still get like
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so juiced and jacked and my calls and it's not
made up, it's not fake. So I just, you know,
give me a good forty five year past deep deep
down the field. I'm all about it, and I go,
probably go a little bit too nuts, but that's that's
kind of my style. I mean, that's kind of that's
that's the way I've always been.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
You do, There's you know, so many like when you
growing up, right, we all wanted to do our respective
jobs from the time when were little kids, right, We all,
I know have shared this sentiment of how grateful we
feel because it came to fruition. Did you growing up though,
did you have did you listen into certain guys in
the way that you know, you've got your own style now,
but growing up, who were guys that you listened to
(02:06):
or idolized and thought I wish I could be them?
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Yeah, I mean I think there was a lot. I mean,
you know, we we love football in our house, so
like you know, it was definitely Summer all on Madden.
You know, we're so big and and there's a lot
of different local guys in New York who I grew
up by, like a lot of like the Mets guys
like Bob Murphy and Gary Cohen is still there and
does an amazing job. And so I wouldn't say there's
anybody that I copied. I just tried to listen, like there,
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I was so terrible at playing sports, but I loved it,
and so I always like just took notice of the
announcers and what their styles were and how they did it.
And you know, when I got this job, I mean
I talk way more than Pat Summer, all of those.
But I always try to think, like, okay, like in
a big moment, you know, what would Pat do, Like
how would he handle a moment like that? Just to
try and like take a breath and you know, be
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regal and be big enough for the game, if that
makes any sense. So I wouldn't say that I beat
off anyone. I would say there's just like little bits
and pieces that I have taken, Like you know, I think,
like you know, just growing up listening to al Michael's
like some of the cadence of how he kind of
smooths in an at of calls. I think subconsciously, I'll
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do that, and that's, you know, because he's obviously amazing.
So just like little things like that of just looking
up people, respecting people, obviously watching Joe for all these
years and how amazing he is and still is obviously,
so just yeah, but I'd like to think that I
kind of crafted my own way from all those little tidbits.
I never was saying. You know, when I was growing up,
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everybody wanted to be Chris Berman, rightfully, so right, I mean,
he was no one was bigger than Boomer, but like
I always tried to be like, Okay, Boomer's awesome, but
like maybe I could, maybe I could learn from this
and try to piece it together. So I you know,
I think it was probably a little bit of a
lot of people in the way I do it too.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
I think, what a lot of people don't understand about
your job? And I've written seventeen questions for you? Is
that lovely? Oh?
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Yeah, so many, so much.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
But we call her affectionately on this podcast Nosy Rosie
with her legal pad and her pen. She's always Johnny
notes down, Nosy, Rosie's on the case.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
I am, but.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
I just d did you get this one? I just
got this in the mail because I feel good about it.
I'm excited.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
It gives me the shakes.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
No, I got they got no cards off that. But
I'm like, any of this current should probably.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
It's from twenty nineteen.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Oops, crazy, we are a couple.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
I'm like, this is a really great article.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
It was the last Super Bowl Kevin called Charissa, not
the new one. Updates for San Francisco this weekend. They're
hurt and they canceled joint practices. We'll have more after
the break with Chris and Julian. Great, that's all the
time Julian and I will have for our pre game.
So that's okay. Wait so you played? Wait?
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Why?
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (04:55):
That is the best time ever. I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
I'm going to derail Aaron's her questions for one second
because one of the funniest things Aaron brought to my
attention was me doing these fucking in game updates and
my late night wait till.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
We tell Brady about him? Where we go?
Speaker 2 (05:16):
My late night voice that I didn't realize I was doing,
but what she called attention to it. For anyone that
doesn't know what I'm talking about. I do these in
game updates of highlights. So they'll toss to me in
the studio from wherever they're at, and keV who and
Greg at the time, Tom doesn't know who I am.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
It's fine, but they'll do it to me. They'll throw it.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
To me, and they're always so generous whenever they throw it.
And there was like fun banter back and forth. Okay, whatever,
But I had a voice that Aaron pointed out that
was like sensual. I didn't realize I was doing it,
so then I tried to go the complete other end
of it.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
The next time I did a highlight and I.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Was like, oh my god, okay, some good like I
tried to sound like I don't know, like a twelve
year old girl that was like anything but sensual.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
And threw it back to having like Kevin and then
that became a joke. So anyways, the in game it
was a highlight of my Sunday.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Oh it was like Taylor Heinek he hits Terry McLaurin
and it's fourteen nothing commanders. Kevin take it away like
I forgot where I was for a second, like hang
on and then and then after of course that was
brought to the attention on this podcast the next week.
It was like, here's Taylor, how dick you find Sarah McLaurin,
It's fourteen nothing Commanders. I was like, is there like
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a is there like a happy medium in there? For then?
And of course, like the best part is like now
I give it right. The best part is I give
it right back to you. And we just have so much.
I'm so depressed, like when something happens where like you
get it back and a blaze already in motion that
I can't have a comment or like just a little
subtle like inside joke back to you. I get so
funned when I can't do that.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
The best God Anyways, that just also shows what a
professional you are to go back and forth between the
two personalities. I have multiple personalities. It depends on which
one's coming out that Sunday. Anyways, Aaron, back to the
originally scheduled program, what question is you Okay?
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Well, I just wanted to know.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
I mean, you brought a couple of great guys in
and out of the booth. Lynchy babes, John Lynch and
Greg Olsen, you've literally had to be their bob o,
their mentor their teacher up there. Give me something you've
learned from both Lynchy and Greg.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Well, from John, I mean a lot from both of them,
first of all, but I mean, you know, in terms
of just learning, I think it's always about learning, like
the style. So obviously I've learned a ton of football
from both of them because they're both amazing and personal.
But I think, like I think, okay, Like for from John,
he gave me a good lesson early and that you know,
this is my first EV play by play job. I
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was a radio guy before that, and early he's like KB,
He's like, do me a favorite, like when it's like
a key spot, don't ask me a question to paint
me into a corner because I might want to go
in a different direction. And I was like, okay, great
to know, Like I didn't. I didn't know that. So
you're thinking John, like what does he call here? What
play call does he call here? And it's like could
be the worst possible thing because he's thinking about like
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something else and now he can't say that. So it
was a great lesson, Like I took that into everything
like on TV, and I never do that anymore, but
that particular thing. So like little things like that, just
like on their style and with Greg, I think the
biggest thing I could say about Greg is, well, I
know I have to fix his tie at some point
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during the game before we go on camera. That's a fact.
You know. There was never a game where there's not
like we're about Usually it's like halftime, I'll just kind
of reach over and give you a little this and
I'll just take a swipe of the.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Hair tamate.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Like we're like. The thing is, He's just what I
love about him like doing games is we'll get in
like those key moments and we'll let's say like two
minute warning whatever, and it's a close game and I
see him he's kind of like frothing at the mouth.
He's like ready, he's got so much to say, and
he's like, so grab me on the shoulder.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Like you know with his paws.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Yes, he's like we got to talk about like I
got you, but I got you. I know, I know
exactly what you want to do. And so like we
get back and as soon as I can, I would
just like set him up as quick as possible because
he was so excited to break it down, and he
broke those moments down so amazing. But it was cool.
It was almost like like a little kid, like the
Christmas present is right there, but don't touch it. Don't
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touch it until, like Santa says, and it's like okay,
you can open It's like and you go and open it,
and like you'd say something brilliant about what's to come.
So like those are like the two examples of how
like different analysts can operate a little differently.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
That explain if you can, because there's so many people,
the majority in ninety nine point nine percent of people
will never know what it's like to be in a
booth during a game, calling a game, even just being
there as a spectator, but let alone calling a game.
(09:58):
Describe if you can't, and it's maybe it's a big ass,
but just when you're up in that booth a couple
of minutes before game time, just sort of the sights
and the sounds and what you're doing to sort of
give people access behind that proverbial curtain that they probably
won't ever get.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
You know, I think, look at the biggest thing I'll
give you two perspectives, so it's not just like a
boring answer. The biggest thing is just it's such a
team effort, like everybody working together, you know in the booth,
got my spotter and my stack guy helping you just
with stuff, and they know what I want and things
that I need or maybe things that I'm not good
at during the broadcast, Like you know, Mitch, my spotter knows,
(10:34):
like like we'll talk certain uniforms. I'm like, hey, I'm
having a hard time seeing in the eighties on these uniforms,
So can you help me, you know, with you know,
like certain things like that. Or for example, if.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Explain what a spotter is, because I don't think a
lot of people have been known what the play is
keV like for people listening to this, Yeah, good call.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Spotter is someone who stands next to me and helps
me identify things during a broadcast. So let's see, like
if someone tips the ball at the line of scrimmage,
or he's showing me who's making these tackles, or for example,
a good one in the Super Bowl a couple of
years ago, when Nick Bolton picked up that fumble ran
in for touchdown. Now I knew it was Nick Bolton
one hundred percent right off the bat, But just for
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a split second, I looked at him to make sure
he had the same thing, because you don't want to
mess up that call, right, Like, so it's like.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Holy people don't get that. They don't understand that, especially
for the biggest game, right keV.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
It's like insurance, like you know, you're trying to be
right right, So you know, usually I see a lot,
but you know, it's like it's the super Bowl, so
like balls on the ground. I was like, that is
one hundred percent Nick Bolton. So I, however, my call
was you know, it's on the ground. And I looked
at him and He's already pointing a Nick Bolt and
I'm like, it's Nick Bolton And that all happen in
a second. So it's like just having the extra set
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of eyes to help you. But usually, like I give
him stuff like I watched like pregame warm ups and
like he'll help me. That's another one I give you. Okay,
here's a good one, like again, like how this helps.
Brandon Cooks and Cavante Turpin for the Cowboys looked exactly
the same on the field, and their numbers were like
they if they turned a certain way, it was really
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hard to see who who was catching the ball, so
I forget who it was. But one of them more
like a blue sock, like one blue sock and the
other one wore two white socks, so he like found that.
And then every time they played, I watched and I
was like, oh, he's got a blue sock on. So
as soon as it's like the ball is in the ere,
I knew who it was. So it's like little tricks
(12:30):
of the trade like that. And then the other thing
is really it's just I think I don't think people realize,
like with Aaron and with you, Chris, so when you
did it, how much banner goes on the stuff that's
not on the air, Like Aaron is talking to us
all the time, and we're talking to her and she's
listening to us, and like, guys like this, just so
you know, you were talking about this. This is going
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on like on the field, and we're like, oh wow, interesting,
and then our camera guys will go get it and
then I'm like, well, eron, you do it like I
want you to describe it, and like so it's like
there's oldest banter like kind of talking about storylines and things,
but you can't see all of it by yourself. There's
so much going on.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Well, you're such a generous crew, you guys.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
People don't because I just, yeah, I just want anyone
that's out there listening. It's not always the case to
have someone like Kevin or Greg the last few years.
When you get a very beautiful group like that, everyone
works in harmony and in the same as said for
the players on the field, I mean there's a lot.
You know, when teams function as a team instead of
as a bunch of individuals, it's an awesome thing to watch,
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and it's you know, to our benefit as viewers to
be able to hear from all of you guys. I
was gonna say, Ken, would you say the craziest? Was
that the craziest game you've ever had? I was thinking
when all this shit was happening at once the NFC Championship,
when Perty went down with his arm, because there was
so much shit happening at once from him, is he
coming back?
Speaker 3 (13:51):
What is it?
Speaker 2 (13:52):
And then you know his backup goes down with a
head injury. Is McCaffrey the backup? What's Mcca? I mean,
I just felt like I couldn't imagine for you and
for Richie's I once our producer just keeping it all
together and kept recapping.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
It all, you know what er I think. I mean, Look,
obviously the end result game wasn't competitive because of all
that happened, and that sucked, But it was actually as
far as like doing a broadcast, one of the most
challenging but fun broadcastings I've ever done, because yeah, I mean, look,
I thought we did a really good job, but there's
(14:26):
so much going on and we're all like talking figuring out,
oh my god, what's next? Who's grabbing? Well, you're telling us,
you know, Christian McCaffrey's got to gott a you know,
bawl in the sand. Maybe he's gonna throw We're looking
at it, like, so there's so much you're paying attention to,
and it's like it was kind of cool and prideful
following all that and being on top of it, like
what is going to possibly happen next? So yeah, that
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was definitely up there for like a different kind of crazy,
but in a way it was it was challenging and
fun to kind of be on top of that because
like we're just like everybody else. We don't know what
the hell is going on. We're just trying to figure
out what these teams are doing. So the game, like
the result wasn't wasn't great, but the actual all the
stuff that happened was wild to Chase. So I agree
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with you there.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
And as we walked out of that game, we thought
Tom Brady's coming to San Francisco and he's going to
play with them next year, and now he's our teammate,
and I can't wait to see, like how that goes
for you up there. I mean, you've been in some
practice games. You guys were practicing this weekend. I'm going
to get the all the info from you when we
get off here.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
But how's it going?
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Can you give people an idea of it?
Speaker 1 (15:31):
It's going really well, Like I mean, we've done a
lot of work this year, you know, And I think
the cool thing is is so much of this is
just building chemistry, right. I Mean, you know, Aaron, you
knew Tom and I knew him from a working relationship,
but I didn't know him from a personal standpoint at all,
And so getting to know who he is off the
field and what makes him tick and things like that,
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is just as important to develop a chemistry in the
booth really, like that's how it works. And so to me,
that's been a really cool or rewarding process. The other
thing that's been really really cool is he's you know,
it's amazing for you know what he is, which is
the greatest to ever do it. And then he's been
so receptive to just coaching. Like there's times I'm like, TB,
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this was awesome, but like I can't do that, and
you know, and then I'm like, who am I like you.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
To say, well, how long did it take you to
jump in and be like that?
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Because a lot of people you wouldn't be this because
of your relationship, but a lot of people would have
trepidation about critiquing someone you know, in that position. It's like, oh,
I don't want to do that, but I guess it
sounds like you're like, you have to if you guys
want to be great together, you have to coach.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Yeah, And that's just the way I am. And then
you know, this is a point he was so early,
like I don't know whenever this was earlier in the year.
I was like, you know, we went to a commercial
one of our practices and like, hey, TV, Like I
know you don't know me well yet, but like is
that cool? Like can I tell you if something sucks
or whatever. He's like, yes, like please tell me, like
coach me up. I was like, that's pretty cool. Like
so he just he just wants to be great, he
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wants to be better. And I think that's been the
really fun part. I'll tell you one other thing I
learned Aaron. You'll see this this week. Going to the field.
It's going to require an extra three hours. It is
like a circus just going downly weirdly in LA doing
a practice game. And it was like it took us
forty minutes just to get down like the elevator to
the corner of the end zone. And then it was like,
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I mean I had to take a selfie of he
and Michaeh Porson's and Trayvon Diggs in the.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
Middle of Wow, that is awesome. That what a selfie?
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Oh my god, I mean not a selfie. I had
to take a picture. Like Micah came over, Hey, can
you take a picture?
Speaker 3 (17:38):
That's cool?
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Ye?
Speaker 3 (17:39):
What are players reaction?
Speaker 2 (17:41):
So, I mean, yeah, you were just at the Rams Cowboys,
I mean, what are guys doing because I remember Dak
had said to me when it was announced, he was like,
this is going to be cool to be on a
call with him.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
What did you notice?
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Yeah, we did, you know. I mean, honestly, it was
so many people that just wanted to say hello and
be a part of it. And you know, we spent
a lot of time with the Jones family, which was cool,
and just walking around different coaches and some people that
Tom had been with on the Rams staff in New England.
And we didn't actually get to talk to the quarterbacks
because it was like one fifteen in the game was
one thirty. It's like we got, we got, you know.
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So that is definitely a learning experience. We're going to
take a little more time to go down the field
earlier and just you know, but he actually enjoyed. I
was like, was that cool. He's like yeah, He's like
it was really really cool. So I think that's going
to be fun eron gamey walking around with him and
players want to talk to him and give him some information.
So I think that's going to be a cool experience.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
That's so cool about my Travon. That's great.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Aaron, what's your favorite thing about working with Kevin my
work husband. He is never in even if he's rattled
about something. Like you mentioned before, you don't see it.
A lot of people, you know, don't realize this, and
this is about our relationship. He's so great in terms
of listening to everything I have. But I also, like
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Greg said when he on, I second guessed myself about
maybe what the first thing I should focus on in
a story, and and Kevin will listen to all of
my ideas and then say, you.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
Know what, that's great, but what do you think about
doing it this way?
Speaker 2 (19:11):
And you have this and and I'll just be like,
oh my god, that's so yeah, yeah, yeah, that's great.
And I'll text him in the middle of the night
or ask him if I could go over it when
we're doing our little walk around the field. Sounds like
this year we won't have time with all the pictures
we're going to be taking. Four Sorry, Tom, I'm done
taking pictures. Kevin needs to listen to my first hit.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
But yeah, he's just such a caring teammate and he's
just he has a big enough job in the booth
that he is so worried about what the rest of
us have to do and how he can help, and
I'm so grateful for that. I'm grateful for his relationship
and I'm really grateful he likes to have cocktails with
me at TGI Fridays in that Dallas terminop because there's
no one I like to have a Santa Margarita with
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by Thelita event.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
So I'm in park. I think you haven't hold it
on this podcast before having you.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
Oh yeah, we showed up.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Was it?
Speaker 3 (20:02):
It was Christmas time? Right?
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Yeah, it was like was it Christmas Eve? I don't
even know it was right around.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Well, I want your advantage point back from this story,
so you know, you set up the story and then
let's give get Kevin's uh interpretation of what happened.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Was this the rude guy? Was this the guy? Oh
that was Christmas Eve?
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (20:22):
This was just I think this was a round Christmas time.
But listen, one really cool thing. We all hate traveling.
It's a pain in the ass. But the cool thing
about our group, our LA group, we are so tight.
We know each other so well. We can do each
other's orders. We can run and make a flight and
get a burger and a drink, you know, without missing
a beat. But yeah, we showed up at the TGI Fridays.
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We got a huge table and we were all ordering
a cocktail and I said, I'll have the Santa Margarita.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
keV goes and I'm like, I'm looking at the mini
figure out I want. Was like, is that a Christmas one?
Speaker 3 (20:58):
Drake? It was so good, so cute. Well I love it.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
Oh yeah, keV.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
You've done so much in your career, clearly, and it's
really just getting started when you think about all the
incredible stuff that you have in front of you. Looking
back with baseball and football obviously so different. I've worked
in both myself, and I would always go back and
do baseball because it was the first sport that I
got to cover. It was my first on air job,
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was working for the Rockies.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
But it's so different. One hundred and.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Sixty to sixty three games and then it's like and
then the postseason, it's like, that is such a different grind.
The football is a grind, but condensed and much different.
How would you describe your experience in baseball because you
spent seven years right with the Mets. I did eight years.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
There and it's it's exhausting, it's it's quite honestly, when
you're when you're doing a team and you're doing every game,
it's just it's fun. It's great that time, but it
is exhausting, like it's just there's nowhere. Let's put it
this way. I and I know your time with Colorado
when you were there, like you saw on firsthand too, right,
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But I am amazed, Like there were days I didn't
even want to get out of bed, and I'm just
talking for a living, Like I'm amazed at like getting
back from a trip at four in the morning, and
then you drive home and then you have a night
game that night at home. I'm like, how are these
guys playing and functioning? Like It's amazing what they do
and how they keep their bodies in shape, play that
every day, Like I I'm floored, like going through that
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with them and seeing how they do it.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
Such a good point.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
I always said I wanted to be a starting pitcher
because I know I'm working every five days. These guys
that are every single day players, I'm all, hell no,
Like to your point, like or or having to play
double headers or things like that because of rescheduling and
all that. I have the utmost respect for baseball players
and for people that we know that work, you know,
still on that grind. Best piece of advice that or
let me rephrase that, what's the best question that someone
(23:05):
coming up in the business has asked you that You're like, Oh,
that's very insightful to ask a question like that.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
You know, I get a lot of them. I would
say this, I this is me. Everybody is a little different.
But I always tell you know, whether it's college kids
or high school kids or whatever. I feel like, especially today,
so many people are like, Okay, in five years, I
got to be calling you know, the super Bowl, the
World Series or the NBA Finals or whatever, and you know,
(23:35):
in ten years, I got to be here. And I'm like,
why do you do that to yourself? Because to me,
and I know some people do do it and it
works for them, but to me, like that just sets
you up for failure because then in five years, if
you're not doing exactly that, are you a failure? Like?
Did you fail yourself? I always feel like I always
tell so people will ask what's my goal? Where should
I be in five years? I'm like, you should be
(23:57):
hopefully enjoying what you're doing and hope getting better at
your craft and hopefully climbing up the ladder like that's it.
I because I just I just don't know, like how
how you live up to that if you're not exactly
where you think you're supposed to be in I mean,
I have no idea where I'm going to be in
five years. I mean, I hope I'm doing the same thing.
I love what I'm doing right now, and I'm so
(24:17):
happy and I'm fortunate to be doing on right now.
But I don't. I just never liked that you know,
where do you want to be in five years or
ten years? Question? I think it puts you into a box,
and I think it's hard to get out of that.
So when I get that question a lot, I say
I would nix that thought and just work on being
the best of you and get better. But again, I
know people like that. I don't.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Yeah, how much anxiety do you get if you don't
get through your articles by like noon or one? Same
explain for people that don't know what that means. Like
your packet of articles that you guys get so we.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Get, we get we get like a yeah, we get
we get to think called sports scan. It's like a
packet of articles, and you know we're obviously googling stuff
and read articles all over the place anyway, And I
have my own database that I staved stuff throughout the year. Database.
Oh now they're talking, Oh yeah, you know, I mean listen,
it's not like I started on like in television back
(25:14):
in the day. You know, it's got a whole thing.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
Rachel's like, where's Dad. He's downstairs in the basement with
his database. Database.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
Database.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
There's like the giant idea, the big tape reels running
behind me as I do it. No, I'm kidding the question.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
Yeah, yeah, Margarita articles. How much anxiety you get if
you don't get through your articles? But I want to
make sure because we have a lot of different listeners, right.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
And they're like, it's like, well, it's not, it's not.
It's a scan and you know, it depends on the
teams that we have. But like let's say we're doing
Dallas Philly, it might be eighty pages of article, right,
Like it's it's like an eighty pace thing to read
through all the articles written about those two teams. And
so usually I get my morning coffee and I try
to get on that, like I feel like I have
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an anxious thing if I don't finish it. And the
other days, as you know, like stuff comes up, you're
doing other stuff, maybe you got to run out, maybe
like it's in the way. And then it's like I
had dinner and I'm done with dinner and I'm like,
I'm only on page forty. I gotta go back. What
do I do? And I have to finish it like
that night. Otherwise it's like it's dead to me. If
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I don't finish sports again that night, it's gone. It
never existed. It's weird.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
So funny.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Do you have the same thing?
Speaker 3 (26:32):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
I usually start sweating out of all areas and then
I text you and I'm like, how far along are you?
Did you finish today? This is what I get on
the voice note. She leaves me. She's rambling about other things,
and she's like, I gotta go finish my articles. It's
always like my articles, my articles. It's like I get
I get a twitch if I don't. Hey, I have
some great news besides. In fact, we're going to let
Kevin go. We're all going to be together this weekend.
(26:56):
Oh my god, we are, Yes, yeah, we are. I
forgot about that. It's already this weekend. Yeah, oh my,
I've better read my articles. This is crazy. Find my articles.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
We're gonna be together, but only one of us is
going to be on the air, so there's.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
Yeah, good point.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Yeah, then I better get my clip and extensions ready,
keV in. In short and in closing, I just hope
you know how much you are respected, not only by
people that have never met you and listened to you,
but first and foremost by two people that love you
and consider you family and Aaron as she's affectionately referred
to you multiple times in front of your wife as
(27:35):
your work wife. We love you and thank you for
being the absolute best.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
Seriously, I love you both an honor to be on
the pod as a loyal fan and listener, and you're
the best.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
You know, we're on our best behavior for you because
we were. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
Go ahead, no, no.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Save save the non best for Saturday night. Anyway.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Oh yeah, did you go high angle with Mike? Interested worried?
I'm worried about that photo you took. Was it high angle?
Did you do multiple horizontal a You.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
Know, I gotta be honest. I usually only think high
angle when Rachel is involmbed because you otherwise you'll get
on me. This was I'm looking right now. It was
a straight on like show us a picture.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
Yeah, wait, oh my god, wait, this is great. You
took the picture with your what's Tom doing? Tom? Does
he know he's taking a picture?
Speaker 1 (28:27):
That particular post is not good? It's fine? Is that? Dion?
Speaker 3 (28:34):
What's going on? Emitt Smith's doing that?
Speaker 1 (28:37):
I'm not sure who that. I'm not sure who that
man is. To be honest, I don't know. At that point.
It was one sixteen when we were rehearsing in seven minutes,
so I was trying to get him off the field.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
It won't be a big deal at all when we
do a Patriots game.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
Huh, Tom, I'm not.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
Do you imagine?
Speaker 3 (28:54):
No, Well we're going to have to imagine.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
You guys have to get there four in the morning.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
Just set up your your cameo booths right there. One
dollar ever one in ket I Love You, Kevin.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
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Earlier in the year. I was like, you know, we
went to a commercial or practices and like, hey, TV,
Like I know you don't know me well yet, but
like is that cool? Like can I tell you if
something sucks or whatever? He's like, yes, Like please tell me,
like coach me up. I was like, that's pretty cool.
Like so he just he just wants to be great,
he wants to be better, And I think that's been
the really fun part.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Calm Down with Erin and Carissa is a production of iHeartRadio.
All Right, Here we go with part two with our
favorite Kevin Burkhart.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
We talked to him about.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Working with Tom Brady and being his personal photographer. Whope
he's getting paid for that, and why keV doesn't have
a five year plan and apparently, Carissa, he has a
database as a data no tea a database? What does
all that mean? And is it dirty?
Speaker 3 (00:52):
keV?
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Is there I mean probably a game winning obviously played Touchdow.
Is there a certain scenario you dream about calling you
live for you love when that moment happens in a game?
Is there a certain thing that you're.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Like, I I just love I love big plays, I
just love I get so excited, like you know, and
maybe sometimes too over the top excited, but I just
I'm into it, like I'm into it. I mean, I
just it's like the thrill that I had watched in
the NFL as a kid, Like I still get like
(01:29):
so juiced and jacked and my calls and it's not
made up, it's not fake. So I just, you know,
give me a good forty five year past deep deep
down the field. I'm all about it, and I go,
probably go a little bit too nuts, but that's that's
kind of my style. I mean, that's kind of that's
that's the way I've always been.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
You do, There's you know, so many like when you
growing up, right, we all wanted to do our respective
jobs from the time when were little kids, right, We all,
I know have shared this sentiment of how grateful we
feel because it came to fruition. Did you growing up though,
did you have did you listen into certain guys in
the way that you know, you've got your own style now,
but growing up, who were guys that you listened to
(02:06):
or idolized and thought I wish I could be them?
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Yeah, I mean I think there was a lot. I mean,
you know, we we love football in our house, so
like you know, it was definitely Summer all on Madden.
You know, we're so big and and there's a lot
of different local guys in New York who I grew
up by, like a lot of like the Mets guys
like Bob Murphy and Gary Cohen is still there and
does an amazing job. And so I wouldn't say there's
anybody that I copied. I just tried to listen, like there,
(02:31):
I was so terrible at playing sports, but I loved it,
and so I always like just took notice of the
announcers and what their styles were and how they did it.
And you know, when I got this job, I mean
I talk way more than Pat Summer, all of those.
But I always try to think, like, okay, like in
a big moment, you know, what would Pat do, Like
how would he handle a moment like that? Just to
try and like take a breath and you know, be
(02:54):
regal and be big enough for the game, if that
makes any sense. So I wouldn't say that I beat
off anyone. I would say there's just like little bits
and pieces that I have taken, Like you know, I think,
like you know, just growing up listening to al Michael's
like some of the cadence of how he kind of
smooths in an at of calls. I think subconsciously, I'll
(03:15):
do that, and that's, you know, because he's obviously amazing.
So just like little things like that of just looking
up people, respecting people, obviously watching Joe for all these
years and how amazing he is and still is obviously,
so just yeah, but I'd like to think that I
kind of crafted my own way from all those little tidbits.
I never was saying. You know, when I was growing up,
(03:36):
everybody wanted to be Chris Berman, rightfully, so right, I mean,
he was no one was bigger than Boomer, but like
I always tried to be like, Okay, Boomer's awesome, but
like maybe I could, maybe I could learn from this
and try to piece it together. So I you know,
I think it was probably a little bit of a
lot of people in the way I do it too.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
I think, what a lot of people don't understand about
your job? And I've written seventeen questions for you? Is
that lovely? Oh?
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Yeah, so many, so much.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
But we call her affectionately on this podcast Nosy Rosie
with her legal pad and her pen. She's always Johnny
notes down, Nosy, Rosie's on the case.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
I am, but.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
I just d did you get this one? I just
got this in the mail because I feel good about it.
I'm excited.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
It gives me the shakes.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
No, I got they got no cards off that. But
I'm like, any of this current should probably.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
It's from twenty nineteen.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Oops, crazy, we are a couple.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
I'm like, this is a really great article.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
It was the last Super Bowl Kevin called Charissa, not
the new one. Updates for San Francisco this weekend. They're
hurt and they canceled joint practices. We'll have more after
the break with Chris and Julian. Great, that's all the
time Julian and I will have for our pre game.
So that's okay. Wait so you played? Wait?
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Why?
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (04:55):
That is the best time ever. I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
I'm going to derail Aaron's her questions for one second
because one of the funniest things Aaron brought to my
attention was me doing these fucking in game updates and
my late night wait till.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
We tell Brady about him? Where we go?
Speaker 2 (05:16):
My late night voice that I didn't realize I was doing,
but what she called attention to it. For anyone that
doesn't know what I'm talking about. I do these in
game updates of highlights. So they'll toss to me in
the studio from wherever they're at, and keV who and
Greg at the time, Tom doesn't know who I am.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
It's fine, but they'll do it to me. They'll throw it.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
To me, and they're always so generous whenever they throw it.
And there was like fun banter back and forth. Okay, whatever,
But I had a voice that Aaron pointed out that
was like sensual. I didn't realize I was doing it,
so then I tried to go the complete other end
of it.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
The next time I did a highlight and I.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Was like, oh my god, okay, some good like I
tried to sound like I don't know, like a twelve
year old girl that was like anything but sensual.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
And threw it back to having like Kevin and then
that became a joke. So anyways, the in game it
was a highlight of my Sunday.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Oh it was like Taylor Heinek he hits Terry McLaurin
and it's fourteen nothing commanders. Kevin take it away like
I forgot where I was for a second, like hang
on and then and then after of course that was
brought to the attention on this podcast the next week.
It was like, here's Taylor, how dick you find Sarah McLaurin,
It's fourteen nothing Commanders. I was like, is there like
(06:30):
a is there like a happy medium in there? For then?
And of course, like the best part is like now
I give it right. The best part is I give
it right back to you. And we just have so much.
I'm so depressed, like when something happens where like you
get it back and a blaze already in motion that
I can't have a comment or like just a little
subtle like inside joke back to you. I get so
funned when I can't do that.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
The best God Anyways, that just also shows what a
professional you are to go back and forth between the
two personalities. I have multiple personalities. It depends on which
one's coming out that Sunday. Anyways, Aaron, back to the
originally scheduled program, what question is you Okay?
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Well, I just wanted to know.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
I mean, you brought a couple of great guys in
and out of the booth. Lynchy babes, John Lynch and
Greg Olsen, you've literally had to be their bob o,
their mentor their teacher up there. Give me something you've
learned from both Lynchy and Greg.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Well, from John, I mean a lot from both of them,
first of all, but I mean, you know, in terms
of just learning, I think it's always about learning, like
the style. So obviously I've learned a ton of football
from both of them because they're both amazing and personal.
But I think, like I think, okay, Like for from John,
he gave me a good lesson early and that you know,
this is my first EV play by play job. I
(07:42):
was a radio guy before that, and early he's like KB,
He's like, do me a favorite, like when it's like
a key spot, don't ask me a question to paint
me into a corner because I might want to go
in a different direction. And I was like, okay, great
to know, Like I didn't. I didn't know that. So
you're thinking John, like what does he call here? What
play call does he call here? And it's like could
be the worst possible thing because he's thinking about like
(08:05):
something else and now he can't say that. So it
was a great lesson, Like I took that into everything
like on TV, and I never do that anymore, but
that particular thing. So like little things like that, just
like on their style and with Greg, I think the
biggest thing I could say about Greg is, well, I
know I have to fix his tie at some point
(08:26):
during the game before we go on camera. That's a fact.
You know. There was never a game where there's not
like we're about Usually it's like halftime, I'll just kind
of reach over and give you a little this and
I'll just take a swipe of the.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Hair tamate.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Like we're like. The thing is, He's just what I
love about him like doing games is we'll get in
like those key moments and we'll let's say like two
minute warning whatever, and it's a close game and I
see him he's kind of like frothing at the mouth.
He's like ready, he's got so much to say, and
he's like, so grab me on the shoulder.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Like you know with his paws.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Yes, he's like we got to talk about like I
got you, but I got you. I know, I know
exactly what you want to do. And so like we
get back and as soon as I can, I would
just like set him up as quick as possible because
he was so excited to break it down, and he
broke those moments down so amazing. But it was cool.
It was almost like like a little kid, like the
Christmas present is right there, but don't touch it. Don't
(09:24):
touch it until, like Santa says, and it's like okay,
you can open It's like and you go and open it,
and like you'd say something brilliant about what's to come.
So like those are like the two examples of how
like different analysts can operate a little differently.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
That explain if you can, because there's so many people,
the majority in ninety nine point nine percent of people
will never know what it's like to be in a
booth during a game, calling a game, even just being
there as a spectator, but let alone calling a game.
(09:58):
Describe if you can't, and it's maybe it's a big ass,
but just when you're up in that booth a couple
of minutes before game time, just sort of the sights
and the sounds and what you're doing to sort of
give people access behind that proverbial curtain that they probably
won't ever get.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
You know, I think, look at the biggest thing I'll
give you two perspectives, so it's not just like a
boring answer. The biggest thing is just it's such a
team effort, like everybody working together, you know in the booth,
got my spotter and my stack guy helping you just
with stuff, and they know what I want and things
that I need or maybe things that I'm not good
at during the broadcast, Like you know, Mitch, my spotter knows,
(10:34):
like like we'll talk certain uniforms. I'm like, hey, I'm
having a hard time seeing in the eighties on these uniforms,
So can you help me, you know, with you know,
like certain things like that. Or for example, if.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Explain what a spotter is, because I don't think a
lot of people have been known what the play is
keV like for people listening to this, Yeah, good call.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Spotter is someone who stands next to me and helps
me identify things during a broadcast. So let's see, like
if someone tips the ball at the line of scrimmage,
or he's showing me who's making these tackles, or for example,
a good one in the Super Bowl a couple of
years ago, when Nick Bolton picked up that fumble ran
in for touchdown. Now I knew it was Nick Bolton
one hundred percent right off the bat, But just for
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a split second, I looked at him to make sure
he had the same thing, because you don't want to
mess up that call, right, Like, so it's like.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Holy people don't get that. They don't understand that, especially
for the biggest game, right keV.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
It's like insurance, like you know, you're trying to be
right right, So you know, usually I see a lot,
but you know, it's like it's the super Bowl, so
like balls on the ground. I was like, that is
one hundred percent Nick Bolton. So I, however, my call
was you know, it's on the ground. And I looked
at him and He's already pointing a Nick Bolt and
I'm like, it's Nick Bolton And that all happen in
a second. So it's like just having the extra set
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of eyes to help you. But usually, like I give
him stuff like I watched like pregame warm ups and
like he'll help me. That's another one I give you. Okay,
here's a good one, like again, like how this helps.
Brandon Cooks and Cavante Turpin for the Cowboys looked exactly
the same on the field, and their numbers were like
they if they turned a certain way, it was really
(12:09):
hard to see who who was catching the ball, so
I forget who it was. But one of them more
like a blue sock, like one blue sock and the
other one wore two white socks, so he like found that.
And then every time they played, I watched and I
was like, oh, he's got a blue sock on. So
as soon as it's like the ball is in the ere,
I knew who it was. So it's like little tricks
(12:30):
of the trade like that. And then the other thing
is really it's just I think I don't think people realize,
like with Aaron and with you, Chris, so when you
did it, how much banner goes on the stuff that's
not on the air, Like Aaron is talking to us
all the time, and we're talking to her and she's
listening to us, and like, guys like this, just so
you know, you were talking about this. This is going
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on like on the field, and we're like, oh wow, interesting,
and then our camera guys will go get it and
then I'm like, well, eron, you do it like I
want you to describe it, and like so it's like
there's oldest banter like kind of talking about storylines and things,
but you can't see all of it by yourself. There's
so much going on.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Well, you're such a generous crew, you guys.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
People don't because I just, yeah, I just want anyone
that's out there listening. It's not always the case to
have someone like Kevin or Greg the last few years.
When you get a very beautiful group like that, everyone
works in harmony and in the same as said for
the players on the field, I mean there's a lot.
You know, when teams function as a team instead of
as a bunch of individuals, it's an awesome thing to watch,
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and it's you know, to our benefit as viewers to
be able to hear from all of you guys. I
was gonna say, Ken, would you say the craziest? Was
that the craziest game you've ever had? I was thinking
when all this shit was happening at once the NFC Championship,
when Perty went down with his arm, because there was
so much shit happening at once from him, is he
coming back?
Speaker 3 (13:51):
What is it?
Speaker 2 (13:52):
And then you know his backup goes down with a
head injury. Is McCaffrey the backup? What's Mcca? I mean,
I just felt like I couldn't imagine for you and
for Richie's I once our producer just keeping it all
together and kept recapping.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
It all, you know what er I think. I mean, Look,
obviously the end result game wasn't competitive because of all
that happened, and that sucked, But it was actually as
far as like doing a broadcast, one of the most
challenging but fun broadcastings I've ever done, because yeah, I mean, look,
I thought we did a really good job, but there's
(14:26):
so much going on and we're all like talking figuring out,
oh my god, what's next? Who's grabbing? Well, you're telling us,
you know, Christian McCaffrey's got to gott a you know,
bawl in the sand. Maybe he's gonna throw We're looking
at it, like, so there's so much you're paying attention to,
and it's like it was kind of cool and prideful
following all that and being on top of it, like
what is going to possibly happen next? So yeah, that
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was definitely up there for like a different kind of crazy,
but in a way it was it was challenging and
fun to kind of be on top of that because
like we're just like everybody else. We don't know what
the hell is going on. We're just trying to figure
out what these teams are doing. So the game, like
the result wasn't wasn't great, but the actual all the
stuff that happened was wild to Chase. So I agree
(15:09):
with you there.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
And as we walked out of that game, we thought
Tom Brady's coming to San Francisco and he's going to
play with them next year, and now he's our teammate,
and I can't wait to see, like how that goes
for you up there. I mean, you've been in some
practice games. You guys were practicing this weekend. I'm going
to get the all the info from you when we
get off here.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
But how's it going?
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Can you give people an idea of it?
Speaker 1 (15:31):
It's going really well, Like I mean, we've done a
lot of work this year, you know, And I think
the cool thing is is so much of this is
just building chemistry, right. I Mean, you know, Aaron, you
knew Tom and I knew him from a working relationship,
but I didn't know him from a personal standpoint at all,
And so getting to know who he is off the
field and what makes him tick and things like that,
(15:52):
is just as important to develop a chemistry in the
booth really, like that's how it works. And so to me,
that's been a really cool or rewarding process. The other
thing that's been really really cool is he's you know,
it's amazing for you know what he is, which is
the greatest to ever do it. And then he's been
so receptive to just coaching. Like there's times I'm like, TB,
(16:14):
this was awesome, but like I can't do that, and
you know, and then I'm like, who am I like you.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
To say, well, how long did it take you to
jump in and be like that?
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Because a lot of people you wouldn't be this because
of your relationship, but a lot of people would have
trepidation about critiquing someone you know, in that position. It's like, oh,
I don't want to do that, but I guess it
sounds like you're like, you have to if you guys
want to be great together, you have to coach.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Yeah, And that's just the way I am. And then
you know, this is a point he was so early,
like I don't know whenever this was earlier in the year.
I was like, you know, we went to a commercial
one of our practices and like, hey, TV, Like I
know you don't know me well yet, but like is
that cool? Like can I tell you if something sucks
or whatever. He's like, yes, like please tell me, like
coach me up. I was like, that's pretty cool. Like
so he just he just wants to be great, he
(17:00):
wants to be better. And I think that's been the
really fun part. I'll tell you one other thing I
learned Aaron. You'll see this this week. Going to the field.
It's going to require an extra three hours. It is
like a circus just going downly weirdly in LA doing
a practice game. And it was like it took us
forty minutes just to get down like the elevator to
the corner of the end zone. And then it was like,
(17:23):
I mean I had to take a selfie of he
and Michaeh Porson's and Trayvon Diggs in the.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
Middle of Wow, that is awesome. That what a selfie?
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Oh my god, I mean not a selfie. I had
to take a picture. Like Micah came over, Hey, can
you take a picture?
Speaker 3 (17:38):
That's cool?
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Ye?
Speaker 3 (17:39):
What are players reaction?
Speaker 2 (17:41):
So, I mean, yeah, you were just at the Rams Cowboys,
I mean, what are guys doing because I remember Dak
had said to me when it was announced, he was like,
this is going to be cool to be on a
call with him.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
What did you notice?
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Yeah, we did, you know. I mean, honestly, it was
so many people that just wanted to say hello and
be a part of it. And you know, we spent
a lot of time with the Jones family, which was cool,
and just walking around different coaches and some people that
Tom had been with on the Rams staff in New England.
And we didn't actually get to talk to the quarterbacks
because it was like one fifteen in the game was
one thirty. It's like we got, we got, you know.
(18:16):
So that is definitely a learning experience. We're going to
take a little more time to go down the field
earlier and just you know, but he actually enjoyed. I
was like, was that cool. He's like yeah, He's like
it was really really cool. So I think that's going
to be fun eron gamey walking around with him and
players want to talk to him and give him some information.
So I think that's going to be a cool experience.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
That's so cool about my Travon. That's great.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Aaron, what's your favorite thing about working with Kevin my
work husband. He is never in even if he's rattled
about something. Like you mentioned before, you don't see it.
A lot of people, you know, don't realize this, and
this is about our relationship. He's so great in terms
of listening to everything I have. But I also, like
(18:58):
Greg said when he on, I second guessed myself about
maybe what the first thing I should focus on in
a story, and and Kevin will listen to all of
my ideas and then say, you.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
Know what, that's great, but what do you think about
doing it this way?
Speaker 2 (19:11):
And you have this and and I'll just be like,
oh my god, that's so yeah, yeah, yeah, that's great.
And I'll text him in the middle of the night
or ask him if I could go over it when
we're doing our little walk around the field. Sounds like
this year we won't have time with all the pictures
we're going to be taking. Four Sorry, Tom, I'm done
taking pictures. Kevin needs to listen to my first hit.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
But yeah, he's just such a caring teammate and he's
just he has a big enough job in the booth
that he is so worried about what the rest of
us have to do and how he can help, and
I'm so grateful for that. I'm grateful for his relationship
and I'm really grateful he likes to have cocktails with
me at TGI Fridays in that Dallas terminop because there's
no one I like to have a Santa Margarita with
(19:53):
by Thelita event.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
So I'm in park. I think you haven't hold it
on this podcast before having you.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
Oh yeah, we showed up.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Was it?
Speaker 3 (20:02):
It was Christmas time? Right?
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Yeah, it was like was it Christmas Eve? I don't
even know it was right around.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Well, I want your advantage point back from this story,
so you know, you set up the story and then
let's give get Kevin's uh interpretation of what happened.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Was this the rude guy? Was this the guy? Oh
that was Christmas Eve?
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (20:22):
This was just I think this was a round Christmas time.
But listen, one really cool thing. We all hate traveling.
It's a pain in the ass. But the cool thing
about our group, our LA group, we are so tight.
We know each other so well. We can do each
other's orders. We can run and make a flight and
get a burger and a drink, you know, without missing
a beat. But yeah, we showed up at the TGI Fridays.
(20:43):
We got a huge table and we were all ordering
a cocktail and I said, I'll have the Santa Margarita.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
keV goes and I'm like, I'm looking at the mini
figure out I want. Was like, is that a Christmas one?
Speaker 3 (20:58):
Drake? It was so good, so cute. Well I love it.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
Oh yeah, keV.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
You've done so much in your career, clearly, and it's
really just getting started when you think about all the
incredible stuff that you have in front of you. Looking
back with baseball and football obviously so different. I've worked
in both myself, and I would always go back and
do baseball because it was the first sport that I
got to cover. It was my first on air job,
(21:33):
was working for the Rockies.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
But it's so different. One hundred and.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Sixty to sixty three games and then it's like and
then the postseason, it's like, that is such a different grind.
The football is a grind, but condensed and much different.
How would you describe your experience in baseball because you
spent seven years right with the Mets. I did eight years.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
There and it's it's exhausting, it's it's quite honestly, when
you're when you're doing a team and you're doing every game,
it's just it's fun. It's great that time, but it
is exhausting, like it's just there's nowhere. Let's put it
this way. I and I know your time with Colorado
when you were there, like you saw on firsthand too, right,
(22:17):
But I am amazed, Like there were days I didn't
even want to get out of bed, and I'm just
talking for a living, Like I'm amazed at like getting
back from a trip at four in the morning, and
then you drive home and then you have a night
game that night at home. I'm like, how are these
guys playing and functioning? Like It's amazing what they do
and how they keep their bodies in shape, play that
every day, Like I I'm floored, like going through that
(22:39):
with them and seeing how they do it.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
Such a good point.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
I always said I wanted to be a starting pitcher
because I know I'm working every five days. These guys
that are every single day players, I'm all, hell no,
Like to your point, like or or having to play
double headers or things like that because of rescheduling and
all that. I have the utmost respect for baseball players
and for people that we know that work, you know,
still on that grind. Best piece of advice that or
let me rephrase that, what's the best question that someone
(23:05):
coming up in the business has asked you that You're like, Oh,
that's very insightful to ask a question like that.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
You know, I get a lot of them. I would
say this, I this is me. Everybody is a little different.
But I always tell you know, whether it's college kids
or high school kids or whatever. I feel like, especially today,
so many people are like, Okay, in five years, I
got to be calling you know, the super Bowl, the
World Series or the NBA Finals or whatever, and you know,
(23:35):
in ten years, I got to be here. And I'm like,
why do you do that to yourself? Because to me,
and I know some people do do it and it
works for them, but to me, like that just sets
you up for failure because then in five years, if
you're not doing exactly that, are you a failure? Like?
Did you fail yourself? I always feel like I always
tell so people will ask what's my goal? Where should
I be in five years? I'm like, you should be
(23:57):
hopefully enjoying what you're doing and hope getting better at
your craft and hopefully climbing up the ladder like that's it.
I because I just I just don't know, like how
how you live up to that if you're not exactly
where you think you're supposed to be in I mean,
I have no idea where I'm going to be in
five years. I mean, I hope I'm doing the same thing.
I love what I'm doing right now, and I'm so
(24:17):
happy and I'm fortunate to be doing on right now.
But I don't. I just never liked that you know,
where do you want to be in five years or
ten years? Question? I think it puts you into a box,
and I think it's hard to get out of that.
So when I get that question a lot, I say
I would nix that thought and just work on being
the best of you and get better. But again, I
know people like that. I don't.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Yeah, how much anxiety do you get if you don't
get through your articles by like noon or one? Same
explain for people that don't know what that means. Like
your packet of articles that you guys get so we.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Get, we get we get like a yeah, we get
we get to think called sports scan. It's like a
packet of articles, and you know we're obviously googling stuff
and read articles all over the place anyway, And I
have my own database that I staved stuff throughout the year. Database.
Oh now they're talking, Oh yeah, you know, I mean listen,
it's not like I started on like in television back
(25:14):
in the day. You know, it's got a whole thing.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
Rachel's like, where's Dad. He's downstairs in the basement with
his database. Database.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
Database.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
There's like the giant idea, the big tape reels running
behind me as I do it. No, I'm kidding the question.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
Yeah, yeah, Margarita articles. How much anxiety you get if
you don't get through your articles? But I want to
make sure because we have a lot of different listeners, right.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
And they're like, it's like, well, it's not, it's not.
It's a scan and you know, it depends on the
teams that we have. But like let's say we're doing
Dallas Philly, it might be eighty pages of article, right,
Like it's it's like an eighty pace thing to read
through all the articles written about those two teams. And
so usually I get my morning coffee and I try
to get on that, like I feel like I have
(26:05):
an anxious thing if I don't finish it. And the
other days, as you know, like stuff comes up, you're
doing other stuff, maybe you got to run out, maybe
like it's in the way. And then it's like I
had dinner and I'm done with dinner and I'm like,
I'm only on page forty. I gotta go back. What
do I do? And I have to finish it like
that night. Otherwise it's like it's dead to me. If
(26:26):
I don't finish sports again that night, it's gone. It
never existed. It's weird.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
So funny.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Do you have the same thing?
Speaker 3 (26:32):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
I usually start sweating out of all areas and then
I text you and I'm like, how far along are you?
Did you finish today? This is what I get on
the voice note. She leaves me. She's rambling about other things,
and she's like, I gotta go finish my articles. It's
always like my articles, my articles. It's like I get
I get a twitch if I don't. Hey, I have
some great news besides. In fact, we're going to let
Kevin go. We're all going to be together this weekend.
(26:56):
Oh my god, we are, Yes, yeah, we are. I
forgot about that. It's already this weekend. Yeah, oh my,
I've better read my articles. This is crazy. Find my articles.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
We're gonna be together, but only one of us is
going to be on the air, so there's.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
Yeah, good point.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Yeah, then I better get my clip and extensions ready,
keV in. In short and in closing, I just hope
you know how much you are respected, not only by
people that have never met you and listened to you,
but first and foremost by two people that love you
and consider you family and Aaron as she's affectionately referred
to you multiple times in front of your wife as
(27:35):
your work wife. We love you and thank you for
being the absolute best.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
Seriously, I love you both an honor to be on
the pod as a loyal fan and listener, and you're
the best.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
You know, we're on our best behavior for you because
we were. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
Go ahead, no, no.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Save save the non best for Saturday night. Anyway.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Oh yeah, did you go high angle with Mike? Interested worried?
I'm worried about that photo you took. Was it high angle?
Did you do multiple horizontal a You.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
Know, I gotta be honest. I usually only think high
angle when Rachel is involmbed because you otherwise you'll get
on me. This was I'm looking right now. It was
a straight on like show us a picture.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
Yeah, wait, oh my god, wait, this is great. You
took the picture with your what's Tom doing? Tom? Does
he know he's taking a picture?
Speaker 1 (28:27):
That particular post is not good? It's fine? Is that? Dion?
Speaker 3 (28:34):
What's going on? Emitt Smith's doing that?
Speaker 1 (28:37):
I'm not sure who that. I'm not sure who that
man is. To be honest, I don't know. At that point.
It was one sixteen when we were rehearsing in seven minutes,
so I was trying to get him off the field.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
It won't be a big deal at all when we
do a Patriots game.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
Huh, Tom, I'm not.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
Do you imagine?
Speaker 3 (28:54):
No, Well we're going to have to imagine.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
You guys have to get there four in the morning.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
Just set up your your cameo booths right there. One
dollar ever one in ket I Love You, Kevin.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
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