October 28, 2021 • 40 mins
The ladies asked and the universe answered! Former NFL punter and current media superstar Pat McAfee joins this episode to talk about being teammates with Peyton Manning, navigating the media landscape after the NFL and some “interesting” businesses he ran as a kid. You’ll also want to hear why Erin was left with no other choice than getting up and moving to the other room. (PS: Anyone have a plane we can borrow?!)
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Calm Down with Aaron and Carissa is a production of
I Heart Radio. The ring light situation that you have
is great. It's very warm. Mine is cold. Well I
look like hell, but that's I just have not slept
this week and welcome to the Calm Down Podcast. My
sleeping has not been good. I'm with you, and I'm
(00:20):
normally a really good sleeper. I'm having a cup time too.
I don't know, We've got to figure that out. My
problem is Jared's had a little bit of full well
last night, he had a little bit of flegm in
his throat and I don't know how in the middle
of the night when he sleeps he can still clear
his throat. So every five seconds he was like and
I was like, I can't do this. So finally I
(00:41):
turned on the light. Not loudly or you know, meanly,
but I just turned it on and he woke up
and he's like, what's going on? And grab my pillow,
I grabbed the charger, I grab my water, and I said,
I love you very much, but I am going to
the room across the way. I don't want you to
wake up and wonder if I'm mad at you or
like whatever. But I just need some sleep. And he's like, oh, sorry, no, no,
it's fine, I'll take some night. Well, I'm sorry, I'm
(01:02):
say no, no, go to bad, We're good, Um, go
to sleep. I think I got maybe six hours, which
isn't enough. And then at the dog came in crying
that mommy wasn't in the right room and what are
you waiting here? So yeah, anyways, and then you played
this song let me clear my throatna noa, noa no
how and then he came in and he goes sorry,
(01:23):
and I know it looked like hell, And I go
did you sleep well? And he goes, yes, great, great
because I can hear you clearing your throat from the
other side of the room. Like me, get this guy,
los Ina, how is your weight? Girl? You had Sunday off?
Sunday off? It was great, Um, good time. And now
I am about to be on the week from hell.
(01:43):
But other than that, it's gonna be great. We have
two great games coming up. We have Packers at Arizona
undefeated Arizona, and then we have the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
at New Orleans. So it'll be a really good week.
I know, it's very busy, for you, but an incredible week.
You're gonna sit down oun with Kyler Murray and Tom Brady. Yeah,
(02:04):
we're excited. I'm trying to lay it all out as
we speak here, and just unfortunately breaking news all over
the place with first what we thought defensive coordinator Joe
Barry out and now poor thing Davantae Adams out. So
the ever evolving news cycle here people. Well, I'll tell
you about someone that's always reporting the news with a twist.
Pat McAfee. He's our guest today on the Calm Down Podcast.
(02:27):
Aaron and I both love him because we aspire to
be like him. He just says whatever he wants when
he wants, and everyone loves him. He's a guy that
you put in the middle of a room and people
just gravitate towards. He's the host of the Pat McAfee Show,
which is on Serious XM and YouTube Monday through Friday
twelve to three, and so we're excited to talk to him.
We both went on his show over the last few
weeks and he's hysterical, so we'll look forward to that.
(02:50):
I want to be him, You want to be him?
I do. I like how he can just say whatever
he feels and people roll with it. It's perfect, just
like a black tank top and a chain. That's what
I want to aspire to be the guy that can
perfect on why not? Okay, so your week then we're
going to start in Arizona. Y. So you leave. I
know I'm always asking to your schedule, but I think
(03:11):
that sometimes, you know, our listeners enjoy hearing about this
from you, So you will leave for that Tuesday. You
leave tomorrow. I don't know. It's just gonna be a
long week on the road. I was kind of hoping
to get there on Wednesday morning, but you know, your
biggest fear when you sit down with these guys and
fly in the day of is that there will be
a plane delay or something. So I think I'm gonna
have to leave Tuesday night, which is kind of a
(03:32):
bummer because I you needed one more night in your
own bed. Maybe who if I wasn't kicked out because
somebody was coughing? Um? So yeah, So I'll leave Tuesday,
then do the game on Thursday night and try to
figure out does anyone have a plane? Does anyone want
to fly me from Arizona to Tampa? Terry Bradshaw Yeah, well,
I think I'm gonna get on the phone with Bill
Richards right after this and try to plan it out
(03:54):
because then I gotta do. Yes. I'm fortunate enough to
get Mr Brady on Friday and then got to get
to New Orleans, so yeah, it'll be busy, but it'll
be great. So someone like you who sat down with
Brady a number of times, now, are you where your
line of questioning? I know Joel our producer, right, I'm
assuming Joel's doing this one with you. So Joel is
(04:15):
one of our future producers that sits down and does
these amazing interviews with you. But do you know in
your head, like the line of questioning that you want
or how do you try to differentiate the interviews when
you've sat with the same person a few times. I mean,
I remember Peter Sugar saying this to me. One of
the hardest things about covering Tom Brady right now is
trying to figure out something new to say to him. Um,
I don't know. I mean, I just had the chance
(04:36):
to be on a podcast with him, and here a
bunch of broadcasters ask him questions and he had just
awesome answers about his entire career in his life and
all that. So I don't know. Joel and I need
to talk. We have to sit down Kyler Murray first
and then we'll figure out Brady. But yeah, it'll be interesting.
I mean what we're at the halfway point of this
season heading in the week eight. Now, I'm having in
one six hundred touchdown six hundred and two. It's just
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potential m v P of the c I mean, this
guy is just unbelievable. So I know I need to
take his sleeping powder tonight to help me sleep better.
He's got a sleeping powder, he does, and it's unbelievable
and I've taken it before. The TB twelve brand has it,
and I will tell you this, it knocks you out
so hard. I was having dreams about my high school boyfriend.
Oh my go insane. The sleeping that sounds like a nightmare.
(05:25):
For Barrow his trainer about it. I was like, Alex,
this thing is unbelievable. I was having like crazy high
school dreams and he was like, oh yeah, it's pretty.
That magnesium and it's like a cherry magnesium. It's unbelievable.
I'm gonna take it tonight. Oh my gosh. Wait, So
if you have a dream like that, do you tell
Jared that you have a dream like that? I tell
Jared everything. I this is unbelievable. So Thursday night we
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had our game where were a Cleveland. I got two
hours of sleep then slept on the plane, so I
was exhausted. Friday night when I went to bed, I
went out with a couple of my girlfriends and we
had a good time. I fell asleep hard when I
got home, fell asleep hard that I woke up in
the middle of, like, you know, my sleep. And I
woke up and I thought I was still on the road.
(06:10):
And I looked over and I was like, who is
this person in better with me? I'm on the world
and I did. I told Jared he goes okay, And
I was like, I was so panicked. I was still
in a hotel and I'm like, who's in bed with me?
I know that you had a good time because I
was texting you and you wouldn't text me back. Then
I was like, wait, is she okay? Like there's a
certain amount of time with certain friends that goes by,
(06:32):
and if you haven't heard from them then four hours dinner.
Now I'm worried. And I was like, just send me
a white flag and let me know that you're okay.
Good for you. By the way, that's a rare Friday
night you get to go out in town. I'm trying
to be a better friend to my girlfriends here that
I lose touch with for like six months that aren't
involved in football. Jacqueline Quick, Heather Um, all those girls.
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So yes, I said, there's nobody I'll put leather pants
on and fancy shoes on, two hours sleep and those girls.
So we went. We a four hour dinner. We were
going to potentially get me a tattoo of a bear
or number we're on my body, or do a second piercing,
but thank god, the dinner went so long we didn't
even you know, go down that path. You don't have
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any tattoos, right, not a tattoo. And I don't even
have a double piercing in my ear because we know
how bad my ears hurt. Also thought of the Calm
Down podcast and after this, let's get to Pat McAfee Cleveland.
There was a whipping wind around First Energy Stadium. I
had the hair and a ponytail. We've discussed what happens
to my ears when it's cold. I thought about the
(07:35):
Calm Down podcast. I almost did a freaking ig. My
ears hurt so bad, but I didn't want to put
on the two. It was miserable. And we're not even
like in the cold part of the season. Pat McAfee
is coming up next, and you and I are going
to talk about piercings and tattoos on our next podcast,
but more starting actually with that macfie when we come back. So, Pat,
(08:05):
you were kind enough to have both Aaron and I
on your show with the last two weeks while we
both had a time. My favorite, though, is that you
lead with the intro of mine from Wikipedia page. So
here's your intro. You're a businessman, sports analyst, podcaster, professional
wrestler and former football punter. Am I missing anything? I
(08:25):
mean there's probably a couple of different titles I could
have thrown in there if I really wanted to nit pick,
But that was an amazing intro. You crushed it. Well. Look,
I mean we don't have time to to list at all,
but he is Pat McAfee of the famed Pat McAfee show.
No one's a bigger fan of yours than Aaron and I.
T I mean she taught me about the Teas and Peace.
I was late to the game on it, but I'm
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all in now. Hey, we didn't necessarily, I don't think
we created Teas and Peace, but we have mastered it.
It is teas and Peas answers every single negative, potential
awkward situation you want to get yourself out of. When
you're talking live on a microphone, it is, Hey, I
want the best for whoever these and peace whatever is
going on. I mean, obviously that can help there. But
I am a massive fan of you guys, So thank
(09:06):
you for coming on the show. Very nice of you
to say those things, and thank you for the invite here.
My wife massive fan of this show, so this is huge.
Where is Samantha right this minute. She's probably in her office.
She runs a foundation called Further Brand, which raises money
to help families kind of pay for canine cancer treatments.
(09:27):
Because our dog Valerie, who's half pitbull, half sharp pay
she's she's my baby. Like, I love this dog. This
dog is literally my baby. It's the first animal I
think I've ever actually connected with. Feels like she potentially
likes me just as much as she likes her mom too.
So it's like one of those things. And she got
diagnosed with cancer, and obviously I was like, yeah, we're
(09:49):
gonna do whatever. And then they gave me the prices
for how much it was. In Sam and I were
both like, if this was when we were growing up,
her with her parents, me with my parents, we would
have never been able to afford this. This is a
whole different story. So she created an entire foundation with
a couple of her girls, and that's what she's doing
right now, is just trying to continue to build that thing.
Whatever you need, we'll promote it. We are dog moms.
(10:12):
We don't have kids yet. Are you kidding? There's mine
right there, mine's over here. Oh you can't really see
how a shepherd and a husky. Aaron got the Ralph
Lauren dog. I do Golden Retriever, but he acts like
an asshole sometimes, so he had to go to Caesar Milan.
You know. Wait, so yesterday this is Aaron and I
spend our Sunday's texting back and forth, whether she's working
(10:34):
a game, where I'm doing in game updates. Uh, we're
good at multitasking. But yesterday she was sending me some
incredible stuff from you. So you're set up to watch games. Wait,
what's your pup's name, A Valerie? I have a coredyan
named Chuck, but Valerie is the Yeah, so Valerie was
in the shop, right, she sits there in her little
bed watching games. I was unbelievable. Okay, you're you've done
(10:58):
many things right. You are a natural at the Just
give you a subject and you can run with it,
and that is not easy to do. When did you
know that you were going to be good at this
whole TV, hosting, radio, all of it. Well, that's very nice.
I'm not a hard center. Sure that there are some
days where I sound like an absolute stooge when I'm talking,
(11:20):
Hey Aaron, I get myself and I don't know if
this happens to you, guys, because you're so professional. Our
show is not. Our show is not blocked up, right.
There's ideas and potential things that we can talk about.
And the boys that's why the boys are so talented.
They can just keep up with whatever, right, And I'm
just it's basically just the diaries of almost like a
madman while I'm doing the show, and there's sometimes where
(11:42):
I get lost. I mean, I'm deep in it's something
that how did I get here? How the hell do
I get out of here? But I've just I've always
enjoyed conversation. I've always been incredibly curious too. Naturally, I'm
a very curious person, and I'm also like one of
the most basic humans of all the time. If I
like something, there's a really good chance that a lot
of people like. If I think something tastes good, there's
(12:05):
a really good chance that a lot of people enjoy
the taste of it as well. So I'm like incredibly lucky.
I'm incredibly curious. I like to think of myself is
not that intelligent, but I'm pretty observant and my memory
is pretty solid, so you kind of piece all those
things together. I still remember what it's like to be
a fan of people that talk and listen and shows
and things like that. I feel like I'm trying to
(12:26):
talk to my friends whenever I'm on the show, because
my friends and I are a dumb group of people,
so you have to explain a lot of things. But
it's it's one of those things where I've been very,
very lucky for the experiences what I'm potentially good at.
And uh yeah, I'm just I'm very, very lucky. But
I appreciate that compliment coming from you and you, Aaron,
because you guys are two of the goats in this
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whole thing. You're very sweet. We know we're just old,
but it's just let you rip. Tom Brady is made
looking old. Damn good. I'm over that old ship. I
don't care anymore. Aaron, you killed us. I thought I
gave you a great intro to Chris. I don't know
if you heard it gave Aaron doesn't want to be um,
you know, under the spotlight. She's good in it, but
(13:08):
she doesn't like it. I like it. I'm like, do
we have anything else? Do we have any more time
for some introws? Hey? By the way, speaking of some
stat lines on one another, you're May second, we're May fourth.
You need to have it. We need to have a
joint birthday party Sinco de Mayo style. We have the
same birthday you're on the second. I think we need
to make this happen. Conterwed by Don Julio. Yeah, I'm
(13:29):
in on it. Hey, I'm sorry I missed all your
guys birthdays. By the way, I've been self writing, mind
so hard, like by the time May fourth comes, I'm
normally passed out. Happy birthday. I missed a lot of
we're going to talk to you about that. Yeah, he's
a great to be born, stubborn assid we're stubbord. I
got so mad at my mom well later on in life,
(13:51):
when I started drinking heavily that she couldn't hold me
in for the fifth because I'm like, how kick ass
would it have been to have a Sinko de Mayo birthday.
I was born one eleven in the morning on May fourth,
so she couldn't hold me in so fast, so quickly
her labor everything was I was almost born in the
Dotson of my parents car. It was a quick, quick,
(14:13):
she's in, she's out delivery that my dad said, if
I was a boy, it was either going to be
Yas or Dotson. So there's no way she was holding
me in. Do you have a good delivery story, because
like may babies are crazy. Well, so, by the way,
great to hear that that there wasn't a long labor,
you know what I mean, as if it had been
you know, seasons long labors out there. I've heard it
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is tough out there, and hopefully one day my wife
and I will be able to have a child, and
I'll be blessed with that. My kid will be a
nightmare for sure. I am very scared of what my
child is potentially going to be a demon out there. Um.
The only thing that's ever said about my labor is
that my head was just so like I have a
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very large cranny, extra large helmet in the NFL, big hats,
we're talking big. I guess I don't. I don't. I
don't really wear fitts. It's big. It's like seven and
something eights whatever it is. Ken who Kevin Mensh with
the Rangers back in the day when I worked baseball
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for espn uh, he was like a seven and a half.
It was like one of the biggest heads out there. Yeah.
Large cranium on me, and my mom says that it's
been this way since birth. So it's never talked about
in a glowing like my birth. It's always like when
I came into the world. It's always like that was
a painful day and everything changed that day. But it's great.
I love my parents. I was born in mcgeese Women's
(15:37):
Hospital in Pittsburgh, UK. Is your mom's name, Sally, Yeah,
Sally's an angel, man beuty, what a great name like
Sally Aaron and I love the movie Steel Magnoias, and
I just immediately think of Sally Fields and any woman
named Sally is just a sweet little angel. Well Sally
and McAfee. I mean, she is a sweet little angel.
But she does hold good. I mean she she huh,
(16:03):
just teasing. I said, you want to get into it.
What's her biggest grudge she holds against you besides the
size of your head? Well against me? I don't know her.
Me and my mom are good. We have been good
for like the last fifteen years. You know. There was
a time there though, where we hated. She hated me.
I was very hate herble. I understand that as I
was trying to go through my entire high school life
in existence. But were were you like a partier or
(16:27):
were you rebelled or you just you know, questioned authority?
Why were you bad? Yeah? Me and being the authority
not really necessarily the greatest. My peers always seemed to
like me. Teachers, principles, cops, you name it. There's always
seemed to be a little bit of a disagreement here.
Because I would like to talk about why they feel
the way they feel and why I feel the way
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I feel. I just so happened to be a nine
or a tenure who's probably shouldn't be giving my, you know,
my opinions on situation. So my mom had to deal
with a lot of that. I had a I had
a Cigarett sales operation going in fifth grade where I
would buy cigarettes for twenty five cents and sell them
for fifty cents. And I almost kind of expelled and
sent the boarding school for that. I mean, my mom
had to answer a lot of questions for me. It
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doesn't say businessman on Wikipedia for no reason. You know,
how did this plane already it was selling cigarettes at
age five? So my mom, I don't know how old
you are in fifth grade? Is that? How old is that?
Is that? I don't know. I think you're like twelve,
because yeah, eleven, twelve, because junior high you start like
thirteen fourteen. I don't know what do I know? I
wanted extras. I just wanted extras. There's this grape juice
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that was came in this little uh, I forget what
it was. It tasted grade it was like fifty cents
though it was an extra on top of lunch, and uh,
my parents didn't make a lot of money obviously, like
a lot of people, and I didn't want to ask
them for the extras every day because the the lunch
price was here's a buck, here's a buck, here's a buck.
And I wanted extras everybody's evening. So I started hustling.
And uh, I started selling cigarettes for like twenty cents
(17:53):
a pop. I get them, I get fifty cents in return.
And my I was selling everybody, seniors in high school
all the way down to sixth graders. You know. I
was moved even and so much so that I had
a full carton. I actually moved all the way up
to like a cart and I had a pretty good
operation going. And then somebody ratted me out, and uh,
but Sally, Sally went in there and said, isn't this
(18:13):
a good thing? Though, Like, shouldn't we be shouldn't we
be potentially looking at the bright side of this. She
had to go to bat for me, but not everybody
felt that way. So I love my mom. She is sweet,
but she she will hate people too, which is awesome.
That's good. I think I think you should be I
think you should be worried about someone that likes everyone.
You know, everyone give me. My mom always said this, Hey,
(18:34):
chriss it, don't worry if people don't like you, you
don't like everyone like well, that's a fair point, Kathy.
So I always say that because people get so upset
whenever people say, you know your things on the internet,
and I used to kind of get upset as well.
But if you don't like me, there's a good chance
I'm not gonna like you like so well, this is
a good thing. We've kind of encountered each other. We've
experienced each other. You don't like me, I don't know you.
(18:55):
I hate you. Let's just keep it moving and have
a good time. Is it's a great way to you.
I'll tell you who likes you, Aaron Rodgers. So you're
the envy of many because Aaron opens up to you
different than he does most. And I know you guys
both have a great relationship with him, and this is
a relationship business. Why do you think that he's or
how did you guys develop such a report where he
(19:17):
feels comfortable enough to open up to you differently than
he would with most. I'm not sure I'm welcome. I'm
really I have knowing I'm very lucky. I think I
think everybody I talked to knows that they're talking to
somebody that is dumber than them, probably done something much
worse than them, and also not setting them up. Like
I'm not trying to set anybody up, you know. And
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I think everybody knows that when they're coming to talk
to me and my boys, it's like, hey, this is
gonna be a good time here if we get into
something cool, but I'm not trying to set you up
for any situation. And Aaron, he followed me on Twitter
for a while, so as I was in the league,
I tweeted it a little bit. And I had done
some stuff on the internet here in little with Indianapolis,
(19:58):
and he had followed me for a while, And it
might have been because of what happened on NFL l AM.
I got a chance to go on NFL a M,
which is on all the buildings, so I think a
lot of people got introduced me quickly, plus my Twitter accounts.
We had followed each other for a couple of years
and then we got to meet at this golf outing
down in the Bahamas. I was invited to play on
his team against the NBA, and we had like a
(20:19):
five six hour rain to lay down there and we
got a chance to really, you know, have a pretty
good time. So we started drinking a little bit, we
started sitting and having conversations, and as that conversations continue
to go, I started to realize the depth of this
dude has the well thought out, how hilarity the stories.
And I told him, I was like, I know nothing
about you. I do one of the greatest quarterbacks of
(20:39):
all time, one of the most famous people on Earth.
I know nothing about you except for the stories that
have kind of been said about you by a couple
of people. I'm like, how come we don't get out
and like say, like, this isn't true. You know, why
why can't we do this? And he said I never
wanted to answer things because I'd be spending my entire
day answering things that weren't right. And I was like,
I just think at some point you should prove to
(21:00):
people that you aren't this robot that everybody kind of
talks about. And then it kind of just one thing
led to another, and then I got the incredible opportunity
to chat with him with a j who was one
of his best friends and the boys, and I know
how lucky. We are, very thankful last year too, what
a joke jokes on every week whins the m v P.
Very very lucky, very humble. People are looking for him
(21:22):
for to talk to him, for answers about what happened
this summer, and you get the interview. I before I
sit down with him, I'm listening to your podcast to
try to prepare. I don't know if it was this year.
I think it was last year that I maybe it
was this year. I don't know. We just started talking
about you before the interview, and I'm like this guy,
Like I just said, I'm so jealous of Pat. I
(21:43):
want to be Pat. I want to drop an F
bomb on air. I want to Nuffin Wood. I don't
because then I lose my job and I never get
that plane. Um, whoa hello, And uh no, I just said,
he's the Andy Cohen of sports. He gets everybody. And
I told you that Pat to be comfortable. We want
to sit down and have cocktails with you, and we
want to talk about everything. And I'm just I'm so
(22:03):
jealous of that. I want to be like that. And
uh That's why I was so nervous about being on
your show. I feel like you're a little nervous to
have me on th too, Like I felt like you
guys didn't know how much you could go there with me, right,
love it. Now, we had a legend on Aaron, You're
a legend. What are you talking about? We were obviously
nerve for having an absolute legend on the show. Both Um.
(22:26):
Everything you just said there was incredibly nice, and I'm
very very lucky that it feels like every time somebody
comes on, they're like cool, you know, like they're ready
to come on. We've had a couple interviews that were terrible.
Who okay, So Jerry Rice gave us top five worst
conversation about the Really Jerry's great. Why I've heard I
bet he is, but it with us and he was
trying to push up I bet he is. We'll look
(22:48):
forward to that Verry Rice Roni. He was trying to
push Rice Sroni or something like that, and it was you,
we want to get the plug in, so uh he
and we just didn't have a good connection, you know,
and you can normally tell really pun intended. Yeah, yeah,
whether we're gonna get in there, um Rondale Moore, who
is unbelievable for the Arizona Cardinals. This year, he was
(23:08):
what to produce boiler Makers. He came on, it was
very evident that he hated us. I mean he hated
he hated the whole thing. It was like a I
think it was like forty five seconds, maybe a minute long.
I was like, all right, I'm sucking done with this.
We're gonna get out of here or whatever. But he's
an incredible football player. So we're very very lucky. We're
very very lucky. And I appreciate those kind words because
(23:31):
all I wanted to do was, you know, get into
the networks. Like that's all I wanted. When I retired,
I had a pseudo agent reach out to Fox, ESPN, NBC, CBS,
and at that point I had about seven and fifty
thousand followers on Twitter. I've already done like a comedy tour,
at a show, at a merch business. I'd kind of
already done a lot of things, and everybody from the
(23:53):
networks that we have zero interest. So you know, after that,
I go to barstool, I stay in Indianapolis because I
didn't wan to move to New York. I got a
chance to learn from them about how the internet goes,
and I kind of break off and do my own thing.
And it's like, I'm very fortunate, very very fortunate. But
it all could have been very different if like one
network would have said, yeah, yeah, we'll put you in
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game six or something like that. So I'm very very
lucky for the journey, the ride, my boys, and now
we're getting a chance and maybe enjoy it a little bit,
but it's all come crashing down with our dumbasses. Whenever
(24:34):
I was just gonna say, like in the world of
cancel culture, you know, and Aaron and I talked about
this all the time, when it's like we're very open
and candid about our lives that it's like, how much
do you want to say without somebody getting offended? Because
everyone gets offended nowadays. But it's like we can't authentically
be ourselves. Do you worry about that? No? I feel
really comfortable, especially in the world. Everybody knows everything about
(24:58):
me at this point, basically, you know, I've I've been
very fortunate that my background has allowed me to experience
a lot of different people's cultures and viewpoints. So I mean,
when I went to West Virginia, University out of Plumb
High School to be a kicker. I got a chance
to be teammates with guys from Compton, South Florida, and
then deep in the hills of West Virginia, and then
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like a billionaire son was playing on the team, and
I happen to get along with basically everybody. So I
was invited back to cook out some barbecues and things
like that. So I got a chance to really see
an experience why a lot of people might feel the
way they feel about things. So I think I'm naturally
more okay with people's opinions. So whenever you hear me
(25:41):
talk about something that's serious or something that's in the
real world as opposed to just a sports world, you
almost I've almost been forced to say, I understand why
you blah blah blah feels the way they feel. But
in my eyes, this is kind of why it is.
So I feel like I'm not really scared about anything
that I say because I'm very comfortable with where it's
(26:03):
coming from, which is a pretty open, understanding person that
has got a very very very lucky opportunity to experience
a lot of things that not a lot of people
have got to experience, so I don't know. I think
that's why I go in there. I mean, I'll smoke vitamins,
you know, every once in a while, I'll go in
there and I'll just have a good time because I
(26:23):
know that where it's coming from isn't from a place
of like if it was to get down to it
and somebody was to start coming after me for something
I said. I'm very comfortable with why I say what
I say, how I feel the way I feel, and uh,
I feel it hasn't happened, But I'm I'm pretty cool
with Like, I understand some people aren't gonna like me,
but at least people will understand why I feel the
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way I feel. Yeah, who's the one person you want
on to interview that you haven't had yet? Elon must
really I think he's an alien and if you want,
if you want it, No, I don't know, Aaron Andrews.
I assume you and Paris are but best friends with
Elon musk Okay, But little all me out here, all right,
(27:06):
little on me out here in Indianapolis, I see a
human allegedly that has today. By the way, by the way,
I was asked to do this read on my show
with Public the Public app, which is a social network
for investing in stocks and things. People can follow who
(27:27):
they can follow me as I make my choices for
who I'm investing in, and it's not an investment advice,
but you can see who I'm investing in. And I'm
not a stock market guy. I'm betting on me ten
times out of ten before I send into anything else
like that in the world. But I made a rule
for the public dot com run that I will just
invest in aliens. So I was invest in Elon Musk. Okay,
(27:49):
I'm gonna invest in h Tesla. I invest in Rogan.
He's an alien, all right, So I'm gonna invest in
Spotify and Vince McMahon. There's another alien. I'm gonna invest
in w w E. So I just think there are
some humans that are capable of doing ship that nobody
else is that I'm gonna invest him. But you on
is the guy at the top that I'd like to
chit chat about, because what would you ask him? He
(28:09):
changed the world. I mean, Steve Jobs passed away. I
got his quotes all over the place, and now, granted
terrible day, I'm wearing his outfit in memory of him
or Elizabeth Holmes. We're not sure. You know, it's up
for debate. Am I working at fair? Nos Am I
not working at fair? Nos Am I an alien? I
don't know. We'll get to that later. Might be a
from Rodeo from the Rodeo to Fox NFL Sunday about
(28:33):
when I had to how about when I actually said
on your show, I was like bare back saddle, bronken
bull writing, and I was like, just pull that quote out,
and that's gonna be a problem. I'm gonna have to,
you know, defend you know, our cowboy Hey, we got
a lot of cowboys listening, so we'll get Our demographic
is absurd. It's insane. The people that listen to our show.
(28:54):
The range of people from political standpoints, ages, back browns,
everything is very big. It's nice to be hopefully a
spot that people can feel as if rolling this together,
We're gonna listen to this stooge speak to people or whatever.
That's the fans field. But Elan is a guy who's
changed the world, like Steve Steve Jobs, you know, single
(29:15):
handedly changed the way the entire world operates. I think
Elon Muski is another guy that has done that. I
wish I could talk to Steve, but Ellen's probably the
guy in the sports world. Give me Jerry Jones ten
times out of ten. Oh my god, I would love
you to talk to him. We've got to make that happen. Hey, Aaron,
by the time that this ours airs, I'm sure that
Good English ours airs. Uh. I'm sure Tom's will be
(29:39):
out before the compilation. But if it's not, we'll just
pull this part. But tell how what you guys just did.
And then, um, the question the Peyton Manning thing I
think is so interesting. Oh yeah, so I just got asked.
And before you got on, I told Chris, I wish
you had been on it because I feel like you
would have. He would have just gotten a huge kick
out of you and loved it. I'm gonna tell on
(29:59):
his podcast, Let's Go. They invited a bunch of broadcasters anchors.
I got on it, um, and I took a lot.
I'm in notes. I'm a geek. I take a lot
of notes. I love this ship. So one thing he said,
which fuck, I just loved it, and I just died
for interceptions ruins his night. He could throw for eight touchdowns,
(30:20):
but just one interception. Ruins his whole night. But what
was the one thing? And then I'll get to the page.
It was the bandmitting that he went back and watched games.
I know, I know, I know, but hold on, I
love the whole thing. What drives and we're live, okay,
dead air Hello. Pursuit of perfection, he calls it. What
drives him still, the pursuit of perfection. It's a sickness.
(30:40):
He's just he said, it's a little maddening. But um,
Steve Young came on and that was amazing and he
talked about how that was his hero and all that.
But he said he was just so interested in how
people go about their craft. And he said every year
at the end of the season he would go back
and watch every single Indianapolis Colts game and say to himself,
what Peyton doing that I'm not doing? I just love it.
(31:03):
It's crazy, isn't it. And then you hear the stories.
Uh and by the way, let's go also on Serious
Sextum generally to Mad Dog Sports Radio, I believe, which
is a company that licensed our show as well, which
is pretty sweet. I mean, that's a that's a good time.
Jim Gray, right, Jims that There's been a lot of
great quotes that have come out of that. Then you
hear the stories about Tom and Peyton hanging out together,
(31:25):
just those two together like in Tennessee and then having
like basically a QB summit of Hey, we're on a
different level than everybody. Nobody can really talk to us
except for each other about the ship that we see
and then becoming like friends behind the scenes is insane.
I was lucky to watch Peyton work, even though it's
very very different position in both life and on the
(31:46):
football field, watching him go about his craft and then
how he would handle, you know that being a teammate
while also knowing that he was the GM at the
same time if you really wanted to cut somebody, and
then running the practice as a coach, but that would
also be in a cool guy you want to drink
a beer with. Watching him kind of handle life. Being
Peyton Manning was it's much different than what Tom and
(32:08):
him talk about, but for me it was it has
done huge for me long haul. Uh. There's there's some
people that are incredibly impressive that I try to be
a sponge around, and Peyton was one of them. And
the fact that he enjoyed how fast I could chug
a beer. So I got a chance to fly with
him to certain places. Was obviously awesome. That was obviously
friends with planes is always awesome. I know that you
(32:28):
have a lot of stuff to do, so we'll get
you out of here in one second. But I love
the story that you're thank you so sweet. The story
that you told on Monday night football with him and
Eli about the party that he that Peyton has at
his house and you went into the bathroom and on
the napkins, I mean teas and peas him. Tell the
(32:51):
story again in case anyone missed it. Yeah, teas and peas,
so always napkins. So there was a Thanksgiving dinner that
was if people weren't going back home or if they
didn't have family, lean found and I was young and
I didn't that family. I was just living in an
apartment basically. And at that point he had I think
he'd become a fan of me, potentially off the field,
which is cool, you know, having a guy that is
(33:11):
a living legend. Enjoy you. And I got to be
in some rooms that I should not have been. It,
I mean, I I got to be I got a
chance to hang out with Pat Some, Bruce Pearl, Peyton Manning,
the mayor of Knoxville, the governor of Tennessee, all in
a suite while watching a volunteer game be Memphis. UM
was at one versus to Memphis versus Tennessee Derrick Ros
(33:35):
versus Tennessee. When Bruce Pearl did that to me in
the interview, No, no, this was a long time. It
was a football game. But I do appreciate what. I
don't remember what happened because I I wait, hold on
what it happened? Aaron real quickly? What did he do
in versus to uh Memphis Caliparry and Derrick Grows versus volunteers.
(33:56):
It was in Memphis. I remember Justin was there, and
they did a job. They did a great job in
the first half shutting down Derrick Rose. And I got
Bruce Pearl going off and uh, I just said, hey,
what have you done to Derrick Rose. He's just he
hasn't done anything in this game. He goes, we're holding him,
getting to him kind of like this, and he grabbed me,
(34:17):
pretending he was guarding me. And I was like, okay,
And it really for YouTube similar to fifty cents experience
with Okay, that's saying I couldn't even imagine your guy's life.
By the way, I couldn't have the time. My reaction
doesn't help the situation. It wasn't that bad. I just
wasn't expected to be like him doing it like a
(34:39):
tutorial on how they're guarding Derrick Rose and holding it,
you know what I mean? Anyway back to your rooms. No, no, no, no,
I was about to say, because you also got the
I mean you've been yelled at on the grandest day.
I mean, you are we alluding to Richard Sherman. I
(35:00):
believe we are that. I just when you saw that happen?
What did you think, pat Well? I just I was like, wow,
like this is uh, this is real life right now exactly.
And then I knew I lived on the internet. I knew,
you know, like as soon as so something like that happens,
I thought you crushed them as you always. But didn't
(35:22):
you think like it was awesome to see a guy
just he clearly didn't like Michael Crabtree just freaking go off.
I thought it was awesome. Yeah. It's kind of why
Aaron talks about being able to do the show every Tuesday.
It's like all the key and stage robotic. And this
is no offense to you too, because you two are
networks superstar as you should know, you're not robotic, your
(35:44):
network superstars. But the networks used to pick and shoot
what stories are being told, how people are being depicted,
who's going to be a star, who's not going to
be a star, what's gonna be said, what's not gonna
be said? Now it's just completely different old where we
don't even have to you can just go right to
the source. And Tom Brady is somebody that very much
understands that he utilizes his social media better than a
(36:08):
lot of people that have ever played in sports. You
look across the NBA, it's obviously a real thing. Aaron
Rodgers getting a chance, I mean it is. It's a
new world. And to be clear, I don't think that
is because of you know, the fact of how you
guys go about doing business. I just think it's the
modern world. At this point, you to your point, you
get a chance to bring out some of these real
(36:29):
moments with people because I'll be I'll comfortable everybody is
with old Aaron Andrews, with Ald it was it was, oh, well,
it was the there's no d on the end of that. Wait,
I interrupted your story talking about air No, no, no,
I ask about because we're gonna talk to him tomorrow
Wednesday whenever that is Aaron Wednesdays with more Tuesdays with Marie,
(36:53):
whatever you call it. I want to ask, please, did
you give him a hard time? Is that the first
thing on your mind when someone's flicking you off? I
still own you. I still That's the first thing mine
would be, like sucking, I still own you. Oh I
love it. I think um. I think he was probably told.
(37:13):
I didn't ask him about the whole thing, you know,
I mean we're talking, We talked about it, we did
the whole thing, and he said that he kind of
just blacked out and went into a thing. I assume
he was told about his stats in this game and
what the record is, because whenever you talk to us
about it, he said before far Vy is how he
gets into it. Before far Vy. The Bears dominated this series,
(37:36):
and this is a legendary series that goes back like
a hundred years. It's one of the only real rivalries left.
So I like the fact that Aaron still cherishes the
rivalry because that's kind of like years. Yeah, it's kind
of but it's kind of old school, you know, because
players are getting signed on Wednesday and Thursday, playing in
this game on Sunday, and they're like, hey, this is
a big rivalry game, and a lot of guys are like, hey,
(37:57):
I'm just trying to get paid from is trying to
do my job. The fact that Aaron still views that rivalry, yeah,
and what is passionate is what I loved it personally,
But I don't know if I'd ever be able to
say it to anybody or anything except for maybe No.
I wouldn't even say it to my dogs because they
owned mee us. So I'm just happy I'm not in
(38:17):
a situation where I would ever have to say that.
Speaking of your pups one more time, can you let
us know what Sam's charity is so we can make
sure that we participate and plug that for the brand
F you are T G, B R, A N D.
It's a what's that called? It's a full thing, it's
(38:39):
a natural thing. There's a there's a category of foundation.
She's she's done all the paper where she's gone through
the entire I mean, she is all in on this
and I'm so incredibly happy for proud of her, and
I think it's really gonna do good ship. Well. We
are huge fans of yours and now of hers for
the work that she's doing, but also being married to you.
What a prize, Pat McAfee. Of you that don't know
(39:02):
Pat McAfee show Monday through Friday, twelve to three Serious
x M as well as YouTube. You are a gentleman
and a scholar, and we appreciate your candidness as a scholar.
That's what it says on Wikipedia scholar. No no no,
So that's where that would me, Steve Jobs, Albert Einstein
in a West All college dropouts. But I learned from
incredible people in this business like YouTube. Thank you so
(39:24):
much for you, Oh a, Pat. We appreciate you. We
could talk for our friend. I still own you, Pat.
I'm a good one. Thank you. Saring love you, thank you,
thank you. Calm Down with Aaron and Carissa is a
(39:48):
production of I Heart Radio. For more podcasts from my
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Calm Down with Aaron and Carissa is a production of
I Heart Radio. The ring light situation that you have
is great. It's very warm. Mine is cold. Well I
look like hell, but that's I just have not slept
this week and welcome to the Calm Down Podcast. My
sleeping has not been good. I'm with you, and I'm
(00:20):
normally a really good sleeper. I'm having a cup time too.
I don't know, We've got to figure that out. My
problem is Jared's had a little bit of full well
last night, he had a little bit of flegm in
his throat and I don't know how in the middle
of the night when he sleeps he can still clear
his throat. So every five seconds he was like and
I was like, I can't do this. So finally I
(00:41):
turned on the light. Not loudly or you know, meanly,
but I just turned it on and he woke up
and he's like, what's going on? And grab my pillow,
I grabbed the charger, I grab my water, and I said,
I love you very much, but I am going to
the room across the way. I don't want you to
wake up and wonder if I'm mad at you or
like whatever. But I just need some sleep. And he's like, oh, sorry, no, no,
it's fine, I'll take some night. Well, I'm sorry, I'm
(01:02):
say no, no, go to bad, We're good, Um, go
to sleep. I think I got maybe six hours, which
isn't enough. And then at the dog came in crying
that mommy wasn't in the right room and what are
you waiting here? So yeah, anyways, and then you played
this song let me clear my throatna noa, noa no
how and then he came in and he goes sorry,
(01:23):
and I know it looked like hell, And I go
did you sleep well? And he goes, yes, great, great
because I can hear you clearing your throat from the
other side of the room. Like me, get this guy,
los Ina, how is your weight? Girl? You had Sunday off?
Sunday off? It was great, Um, good time. And now
I am about to be on the week from hell.
(01:43):
But other than that, it's gonna be great. We have
two great games coming up. We have Packers at Arizona
undefeated Arizona, and then we have the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
at New Orleans. So it'll be a really good week.
I know, it's very busy, for you, but an incredible week.
You're gonna sit down oun with Kyler Murray and Tom Brady. Yeah,
(02:04):
we're excited. I'm trying to lay it all out as
we speak here, and just unfortunately breaking news all over
the place with first what we thought defensive coordinator Joe
Barry out and now poor thing Davantae Adams out. So
the ever evolving news cycle here people. Well, I'll tell
you about someone that's always reporting the news with a twist.
Pat McAfee. He's our guest today on the Calm Down Podcast.
(02:27):
Aaron and I both love him because we aspire to
be like him. He just says whatever he wants when
he wants, and everyone loves him. He's a guy that
you put in the middle of a room and people
just gravitate towards. He's the host of the Pat McAfee Show,
which is on Serious XM and YouTube Monday through Friday
twelve to three, and so we're excited to talk to him.
We both went on his show over the last few
weeks and he's hysterical, so we'll look forward to that.
(02:50):
I want to be him, You want to be him?
I do. I like how he can just say whatever
he feels and people roll with it. It's perfect, just
like a black tank top and a chain. That's what
I want to aspire to be the guy that can
perfect on why not? Okay, so your week then we're
going to start in Arizona. Y. So you leave. I
know I'm always asking to your schedule, but I think
(03:11):
that sometimes, you know, our listeners enjoy hearing about this
from you, So you will leave for that Tuesday. You
leave tomorrow. I don't know. It's just gonna be a
long week on the road. I was kind of hoping
to get there on Wednesday morning, but you know, your
biggest fear when you sit down with these guys and
fly in the day of is that there will be
a plane delay or something. So I think I'm gonna
have to leave Tuesday night, which is kind of a
(03:32):
bummer because I you needed one more night in your
own bed. Maybe who if I wasn't kicked out because
somebody was coughing? Um? So yeah, So I'll leave Tuesday,
then do the game on Thursday night and try to
figure out does anyone have a plane? Does anyone want
to fly me from Arizona to Tampa? Terry Bradshaw Yeah, well,
I think I'm gonna get on the phone with Bill
Richards right after this and try to plan it out
(03:54):
because then I gotta do. Yes. I'm fortunate enough to
get Mr Brady on Friday and then got to get
to New Orleans, so yeah, it'll be busy, but it'll
be great. So someone like you who sat down with
Brady a number of times, now, are you where your
line of questioning? I know Joel our producer, right, I'm
assuming Joel's doing this one with you. So Joel is
(04:15):
one of our future producers that sits down and does
these amazing interviews with you. But do you know in
your head, like the line of questioning that you want
or how do you try to differentiate the interviews when
you've sat with the same person a few times. I mean,
I remember Peter Sugar saying this to me. One of
the hardest things about covering Tom Brady right now is
trying to figure out something new to say to him. Um,
I don't know. I mean, I just had the chance
(04:36):
to be on a podcast with him, and here a
bunch of broadcasters ask him questions and he had just
awesome answers about his entire career in his life and
all that. So I don't know. Joel and I need
to talk. We have to sit down Kyler Murray first
and then we'll figure out Brady. But yeah, it'll be interesting.
I mean what we're at the halfway point of this
season heading in the week eight. Now, I'm having in
one six hundred touchdown six hundred and two. It's just
(05:00):
potential m v P of the c I mean, this
guy is just unbelievable. So I know I need to
take his sleeping powder tonight to help me sleep better.
He's got a sleeping powder, he does, and it's unbelievable
and I've taken it before. The TB twelve brand has it,
and I will tell you this, it knocks you out
so hard. I was having dreams about my high school boyfriend.
Oh my go insane. The sleeping that sounds like a nightmare.
(05:25):
For Barrow his trainer about it. I was like, Alex,
this thing is unbelievable. I was having like crazy high
school dreams and he was like, oh yeah, it's pretty.
That magnesium and it's like a cherry magnesium. It's unbelievable.
I'm gonna take it tonight. Oh my gosh. Wait, So
if you have a dream like that, do you tell
Jared that you have a dream like that? I tell
Jared everything. I this is unbelievable. So Thursday night we
(05:48):
had our game where were a Cleveland. I got two
hours of sleep then slept on the plane, so I
was exhausted. Friday night when I went to bed, I
went out with a couple of my girlfriends and we
had a good time. I fell asleep hard when I
got home, fell asleep hard that I woke up in
the middle of, like, you know, my sleep. And I
woke up and I thought I was still on the road.
(06:10):
And I looked over and I was like, who is
this person in better with me? I'm on the world
and I did. I told Jared he goes okay, And
I was like, I was so panicked. I was still
in a hotel and I'm like, who's in bed with me?
I know that you had a good time because I
was texting you and you wouldn't text me back. Then
I was like, wait, is she okay? Like there's a
certain amount of time with certain friends that goes by,
(06:32):
and if you haven't heard from them then four hours dinner.
Now I'm worried. And I was like, just send me
a white flag and let me know that you're okay.
Good for you. By the way, that's a rare Friday
night you get to go out in town. I'm trying
to be a better friend to my girlfriends here that
I lose touch with for like six months that aren't
involved in football. Jacqueline Quick, Heather Um, all those girls.
(06:52):
So yes, I said, there's nobody I'll put leather pants
on and fancy shoes on, two hours sleep and those girls.
So we went. We a four hour dinner. We were
going to potentially get me a tattoo of a bear
or number we're on my body, or do a second piercing,
but thank god, the dinner went so long we didn't
even you know, go down that path. You don't have
(07:13):
any tattoos, right, not a tattoo. And I don't even
have a double piercing in my ear because we know
how bad my ears hurt. Also thought of the Calm
Down podcast and after this, let's get to Pat McAfee Cleveland.
There was a whipping wind around First Energy Stadium. I
had the hair and a ponytail. We've discussed what happens
to my ears when it's cold. I thought about the
(07:35):
Calm Down podcast. I almost did a freaking ig. My
ears hurt so bad, but I didn't want to put
on the two. It was miserable. And we're not even
like in the cold part of the season. Pat McAfee
is coming up next, and you and I are going
to talk about piercings and tattoos on our next podcast,
but more starting actually with that macfie when we come back. So, Pat,
(08:05):
you were kind enough to have both Aaron and I
on your show with the last two weeks while we
both had a time. My favorite, though, is that you
lead with the intro of mine from Wikipedia page. So
here's your intro. You're a businessman, sports analyst, podcaster, professional
wrestler and former football punter. Am I missing anything? I
(08:25):
mean there's probably a couple of different titles I could
have thrown in there if I really wanted to nit pick,
But that was an amazing intro. You crushed it. Well. Look,
I mean we don't have time to to list at all,
but he is Pat McAfee of the famed Pat McAfee show.
No one's a bigger fan of yours than Aaron and I.
T I mean she taught me about the Teas and Peace.
I was late to the game on it, but I'm
(08:45):
all in now. Hey, we didn't necessarily, I don't think
we created Teas and Peace, but we have mastered it.
It is teas and Peas answers every single negative, potential
awkward situation you want to get yourself out of. When
you're talking live on a microphone, it is, Hey, I
want the best for whoever these and peace whatever is
going on. I mean, obviously that can help there. But
I am a massive fan of you guys, So thank
(09:06):
you for coming on the show. Very nice of you
to say those things, and thank you for the invite here.
My wife massive fan of this show, so this is huge.
Where is Samantha right this minute. She's probably in her office.
She runs a foundation called Further Brand, which raises money
to help families kind of pay for canine cancer treatments.
(09:27):
Because our dog Valerie, who's half pitbull, half sharp pay
she's she's my baby. Like, I love this dog. This
dog is literally my baby. It's the first animal I
think I've ever actually connected with. Feels like she potentially
likes me just as much as she likes her mom too.
So it's like one of those things. And she got
diagnosed with cancer, and obviously I was like, yeah, we're
(09:49):
gonna do whatever. And then they gave me the prices
for how much it was. In Sam and I were
both like, if this was when we were growing up,
her with her parents, me with my parents, we would
have never been able to afford this. This is a
whole different story. So she created an entire foundation with
a couple of her girls, and that's what she's doing
right now, is just trying to continue to build that thing.
Whatever you need, we'll promote it. We are dog moms.
(10:12):
We don't have kids yet. Are you kidding? There's mine
right there, mine's over here. Oh you can't really see
how a shepherd and a husky. Aaron got the Ralph
Lauren dog. I do Golden Retriever, but he acts like
an asshole sometimes, so he had to go to Caesar Milan.
You know. Wait, so yesterday this is Aaron and I
spend our Sunday's texting back and forth, whether she's working
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a game, where I'm doing in game updates. Uh, we're
good at multitasking. But yesterday she was sending me some
incredible stuff from you. So you're set up to watch games. Wait,
what's your pup's name, A Valerie? I have a coredyan
named Chuck, but Valerie is the Yeah, so Valerie was
in the shop, right, she sits there in her little
bed watching games. I was unbelievable. Okay, you're you've done
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many things right. You are a natural at the Just
give you a subject and you can run with it,
and that is not easy to do. When did you
know that you were going to be good at this
whole TV, hosting, radio, all of it. Well, that's very nice.
I'm not a hard center. Sure that there are some
days where I sound like an absolute stooge when I'm talking,
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Hey Aaron, I get myself and I don't know if
this happens to you, guys, because you're so professional. Our
show is not. Our show is not blocked up, right.
There's ideas and potential things that we can talk about.
And the boys that's why the boys are so talented.
They can just keep up with whatever, right, And I'm
just it's basically just the diaries of almost like a
madman while I'm doing the show, and there's sometimes where
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I get lost. I mean, I'm deep in it's something
that how did I get here? How the hell do
I get out of here? But I've just I've always
enjoyed conversation. I've always been incredibly curious too. Naturally, I'm
a very curious person, and I'm also like one of
the most basic humans of all the time. If I
like something, there's a really good chance that a lot
of people like. If I think something tastes good, there's
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a really good chance that a lot of people enjoy
the taste of it as well. So I'm like incredibly lucky.
I'm incredibly curious. I like to think of myself is
not that intelligent, but I'm pretty observant and my memory
is pretty solid, so you kind of piece all those
things together. I still remember what it's like to be
a fan of people that talk and listen and shows
and things like that. I feel like I'm trying to
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talk to my friends whenever I'm on the show, because
my friends and I are a dumb group of people,
so you have to explain a lot of things. But
it's it's one of those things where I've been very,
very lucky for the experiences what I'm potentially good at.
And uh yeah, I'm just I'm very, very lucky. But
I appreciate that compliment coming from you and you, Aaron,
because you guys are two of the goats in this
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whole thing. You're very sweet. We know we're just old,
but it's just let you rip. Tom Brady is made
looking old. Damn good. I'm over that old ship. I
don't care anymore. Aaron, you killed us. I thought I
gave you a great intro to Chris. I don't know
if you heard it gave Aaron doesn't want to be um,
you know, under the spotlight. She's good in it, but
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she doesn't like it. I like it. I'm like, do
we have anything else? Do we have any more time
for some introws? Hey? By the way, speaking of some
stat lines on one another, you're May second, we're May fourth.
You need to have it. We need to have a
joint birthday party Sinco de Mayo style. We have the
same birthday you're on the second. I think we need
to make this happen. Conterwed by Don Julio. Yeah, I'm
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in on it. Hey, I'm sorry I missed all your
guys birthdays. By the way, I've been self writing, mind
so hard, like by the time May fourth comes, I'm
normally passed out. Happy birthday. I missed a lot of
we're going to talk to you about that. Yeah, he's
a great to be born, stubborn assid we're stubbord. I
got so mad at my mom well later on in life,
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when I started drinking heavily that she couldn't hold me
in for the fifth because I'm like, how kick ass
would it have been to have a Sinko de Mayo birthday.
I was born one eleven in the morning on May fourth,
so she couldn't hold me in so fast, so quickly
her labor everything was I was almost born in the
Dotson of my parents car. It was a quick, quick,
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she's in, she's out delivery that my dad said, if
I was a boy, it was either going to be
Yas or Dotson. So there's no way she was holding
me in. Do you have a good delivery story, because
like may babies are crazy. Well, so, by the way,
great to hear that that there wasn't a long labor,
you know what I mean, as if it had been
you know, seasons long labors out there. I've heard it
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is tough out there, and hopefully one day my wife
and I will be able to have a child, and
I'll be blessed with that. My kid will be a
nightmare for sure. I am very scared of what my
child is potentially going to be a demon out there. Um.
The only thing that's ever said about my labor is
that my head was just so like I have a
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very large cranny, extra large helmet in the NFL, big hats,
we're talking big. I guess I don't. I don't. I
don't really wear fitts. It's big. It's like seven and
something eights whatever it is. Ken who Kevin Mensh with
the Rangers back in the day when I worked baseball
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for espn uh, he was like a seven and a half.
It was like one of the biggest heads out there. Yeah.
Large cranium on me, and my mom says that it's
been this way since birth. So it's never talked about
in a glowing like my birth. It's always like when
I came into the world. It's always like that was
a painful day and everything changed that day. But it's great.
I love my parents. I was born in mcgeese Women's
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Hospital in Pittsburgh, UK. Is your mom's name, Sally, Yeah,
Sally's an angel, man beuty, what a great name like
Sally Aaron and I love the movie Steel Magnoias, and
I just immediately think of Sally Fields and any woman
named Sally is just a sweet little angel. Well Sally
and McAfee. I mean, she is a sweet little angel.
But she does hold good. I mean she she huh,
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just teasing. I said, you want to get into it.
What's her biggest grudge she holds against you besides the
size of your head? Well against me? I don't know her.
Me and my mom are good. We have been good
for like the last fifteen years. You know. There was
a time there though, where we hated. She hated me.
I was very hate herble. I understand that as I
was trying to go through my entire high school life
in existence. But were were you like a partier or
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were you rebelled or you just you know, questioned authority?
Why were you bad? Yeah? Me and being the authority
not really necessarily the greatest. My peers always seemed to
like me. Teachers, principles, cops, you name it. There's always
seemed to be a little bit of a disagreement here.
Because I would like to talk about why they feel
the way they feel and why I feel the way
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I feel. I just so happened to be a nine
or a tenure who's probably shouldn't be giving my, you know,
my opinions on situation. So my mom had to deal
with a lot of that. I had a I had
a Cigarett sales operation going in fifth grade where I
would buy cigarettes for twenty five cents and sell them
for fifty cents. And I almost kind of expelled and
sent the boarding school for that. I mean, my mom
had to answer a lot of questions for me. It
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doesn't say businessman on Wikipedia for no reason. You know,
how did this plane already it was selling cigarettes at
age five? So my mom, I don't know how old
you are in fifth grade? Is that? How old is that?
Is that? I don't know. I think you're like twelve,
because yeah, eleven, twelve, because junior high you start like
thirteen fourteen. I don't know what do I know? I
wanted extras. I just wanted extras. There's this grape juice
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that was came in this little uh, I forget what
it was. It tasted grade it was like fifty cents
though it was an extra on top of lunch, and uh,
my parents didn't make a lot of money obviously, like
a lot of people, and I didn't want to ask
them for the extras every day because the the lunch
price was here's a buck, here's a buck, here's a buck.
And I wanted extras everybody's evening. So I started hustling.
And uh, I started selling cigarettes for like twenty cents
(17:53):
a pop. I get them, I get fifty cents in return.
And my I was selling everybody, seniors in high school
all the way down to sixth graders. You know. I
was moved even and so much so that I had
a full carton. I actually moved all the way up
to like a cart and I had a pretty good
operation going. And then somebody ratted me out, and uh,
but Sally, Sally went in there and said, isn't this
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a good thing? Though, Like, shouldn't we be shouldn't we
be potentially looking at the bright side of this. She
had to go to bat for me, but not everybody
felt that way. So I love my mom. She is sweet,
but she she will hate people too, which is awesome.
That's good. I think I think you should be I
think you should be worried about someone that likes everyone.
You know, everyone give me. My mom always said this, Hey,
(18:34):
chriss it, don't worry if people don't like you, you
don't like everyone like well, that's a fair point, Kathy.
So I always say that because people get so upset
whenever people say, you know your things on the internet,
and I used to kind of get upset as well.
But if you don't like me, there's a good chance
I'm not gonna like you like so well, this is
a good thing. We've kind of encountered each other. We've
experienced each other. You don't like me, I don't know you.
(18:55):
I hate you. Let's just keep it moving and have
a good time. Is it's a great way to you.
I'll tell you who likes you, Aaron Rodgers. So you're
the envy of many because Aaron opens up to you
different than he does most. And I know you guys
both have a great relationship with him, and this is
a relationship business. Why do you think that he's or
how did you guys develop such a report where he
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feels comfortable enough to open up to you differently than
he would with most. I'm not sure I'm welcome. I'm
really I have knowing I'm very lucky. I think I
think everybody I talked to knows that they're talking to
somebody that is dumber than them, probably done something much
worse than them, and also not setting them up. Like
I'm not trying to set anybody up, you know. And
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I think everybody knows that when they're coming to talk
to me and my boys, it's like, hey, this is
gonna be a good time here if we get into
something cool, but I'm not trying to set you up
for any situation. And Aaron, he followed me on Twitter
for a while, so as I was in the league,
I tweeted it a little bit. And I had done
some stuff on the internet here in little with Indianapolis,
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and he had followed me for a while, And it
might have been because of what happened on NFL l AM.
I got a chance to go on NFL a M,
which is on all the buildings, so I think a
lot of people got introduced me quickly, plus my Twitter accounts.
We had followed each other for a couple of years
and then we got to meet at this golf outing
down in the Bahamas. I was invited to play on
his team against the NBA, and we had like a
(20:19):
five six hour rain to lay down there and we
got a chance to really, you know, have a pretty
good time. So we started drinking a little bit, we
started sitting and having conversations, and as that conversations continue
to go, I started to realize the depth of this
dude has the well thought out, how hilarity the stories.
And I told him, I was like, I know nothing
about you. I do one of the greatest quarterbacks of
(20:39):
all time, one of the most famous people on Earth.
I know nothing about you except for the stories that
have kind of been said about you by a couple
of people. I'm like, how come we don't get out
and like say, like, this isn't true. You know, why
why can't we do this? And he said I never
wanted to answer things because I'd be spending my entire
day answering things that weren't right. And I was like,
I just think at some point you should prove to
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people that you aren't this robot that everybody kind of
talks about. And then it kind of just one thing
led to another, and then I got the incredible opportunity
to chat with him with a j who was one
of his best friends and the boys, and I know
how lucky. We are, very thankful last year too, what
a joke jokes on every week whins the m v P.
Very very lucky, very humble. People are looking for him
(21:22):
for to talk to him, for answers about what happened
this summer, and you get the interview. I before I
sit down with him, I'm listening to your podcast to
try to prepare. I don't know if it was this year.
I think it was last year that I maybe it
was this year. I don't know. We just started talking
about you before the interview, and I'm like this guy,
Like I just said, I'm so jealous of Pat. I
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want to be Pat. I want to drop an F
bomb on air. I want to Nuffin Wood. I don't
because then I lose my job and I never get
that plane. Um, whoa hello, And uh no, I just said,
he's the Andy Cohen of sports. He gets everybody. And
I told you that Pat to be comfortable. We want
to sit down and have cocktails with you, and we
want to talk about everything. And I'm just I'm so
(22:03):
jealous of that. I want to be like that. And
uh That's why I was so nervous about being on
your show. I feel like you're a little nervous to
have me on th too, Like I felt like you
guys didn't know how much you could go there with me, right,
love it. Now, we had a legend on Aaron, You're
a legend. What are you talking about? We were obviously
nerve for having an absolute legend on the show. Both Um.
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Everything you just said there was incredibly nice, and I'm
very very lucky that it feels like every time somebody
comes on, they're like cool, you know, like they're ready
to come on. We've had a couple interviews that were terrible.
Who okay, So Jerry Rice gave us top five worst
conversation about the Really Jerry's great. Why I've heard I
bet he is, but it with us and he was
trying to push up I bet he is. We'll look
(22:48):
forward to that Verry Rice Roni. He was trying to
push Rice Sroni or something like that, and it was you,
we want to get the plug in, so uh he
and we just didn't have a good connection, you know,
and you can normally tell really pun intended. Yeah, yeah,
whether we're gonna get in there, um Rondale Moore, who
is unbelievable for the Arizona Cardinals. This year, he was
(23:08):
what to produce boiler Makers. He came on, it was
very evident that he hated us. I mean he hated
he hated the whole thing. It was like a I
think it was like forty five seconds, maybe a minute long.
I was like, all right, I'm sucking done with this.
We're gonna get out of here or whatever. But he's
an incredible football player. So we're very very lucky. We're
very very lucky. And I appreciate those kind words because
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all I wanted to do was, you know, get into
the networks. Like that's all I wanted. When I retired,
I had a pseudo agent reach out to Fox, ESPN, NBC, CBS,
and at that point I had about seven and fifty
thousand followers on Twitter. I've already done like a comedy tour,
at a show, at a merch business. I'd kind of
already done a lot of things, and everybody from the
(23:53):
networks that we have zero interest. So you know, after that,
I go to barstool, I stay in Indianapolis because I
didn't wan to move to New York. I got a
chance to learn from them about how the internet goes,
and I kind of break off and do my own thing.
And it's like, I'm very fortunate, very very fortunate. But
it all could have been very different if like one
network would have said, yeah, yeah, we'll put you in
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game six or something like that. So I'm very very
lucky for the journey, the ride, my boys, and now
we're getting a chance and maybe enjoy it a little bit,
but it's all come crashing down with our dumbasses. Whenever
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I was just gonna say, like in the world of
cancel culture, you know, and Aaron and I talked about
this all the time, when it's like we're very open
and candid about our lives that it's like, how much
do you want to say without somebody getting offended? Because
everyone gets offended nowadays. But it's like we can't authentically
be ourselves. Do you worry about that? No? I feel
really comfortable, especially in the world. Everybody knows everything about
(24:58):
me at this point, basically, you know, I've I've been
very fortunate that my background has allowed me to experience
a lot of different people's cultures and viewpoints. So I mean,
when I went to West Virginia, University out of Plumb
High School to be a kicker. I got a chance
to be teammates with guys from Compton, South Florida, and
then deep in the hills of West Virginia, and then
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like a billionaire son was playing on the team, and
I happen to get along with basically everybody. So I
was invited back to cook out some barbecues and things
like that. So I got a chance to really see
an experience why a lot of people might feel the
way they feel about things. So I think I'm naturally
more okay with people's opinions. So whenever you hear me
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talk about something that's serious or something that's in the
real world as opposed to just a sports world, you
almost I've almost been forced to say, I understand why
you blah blah blah feels the way they feel. But
in my eyes, this is kind of why it is.
So I feel like I'm not really scared about anything
that I say because I'm very comfortable with where it's
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coming from, which is a pretty open, understanding person that
has got a very very very lucky opportunity to experience
a lot of things that not a lot of people
have got to experience, so I don't know. I think
that's why I go in there. I mean, I'll smoke vitamins,
you know, every once in a while, I'll go in
there and I'll just have a good time because I
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know that where it's coming from isn't from a place
of like if it was to get down to it
and somebody was to start coming after me for something
I said. I'm very comfortable with why I say what
I say, how I feel the way I feel, and uh,
I feel it hasn't happened, But I'm I'm pretty cool
with Like, I understand some people aren't gonna like me,
but at least people will understand why I feel the
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way I feel. Yeah, who's the one person you want
on to interview that you haven't had yet? Elon must
really I think he's an alien and if you want,
if you want it, No, I don't know, Aaron Andrews.
I assume you and Paris are but best friends with
Elon musk Okay, But little all me out here, all right,
(27:06):
little on me out here in Indianapolis, I see a
human allegedly that has today. By the way, by the way,
I was asked to do this read on my show
with Public the Public app, which is a social network
for investing in stocks and things. People can follow who
(27:27):
they can follow me as I make my choices for
who I'm investing in, and it's not an investment advice,
but you can see who I'm investing in. And I'm
not a stock market guy. I'm betting on me ten
times out of ten before I send into anything else
like that in the world. But I made a rule
for the public dot com run that I will just
invest in aliens. So I was invest in Elon Musk. Okay,
(27:49):
I'm gonna invest in h Tesla. I invest in Rogan.
He's an alien, all right, So I'm gonna invest in
Spotify and Vince McMahon. There's another alien. I'm gonna invest
in w w E. So I just think there are
some humans that are capable of doing ship that nobody
else is that I'm gonna invest him. But you on
is the guy at the top that I'd like to
chit chat about, because what would you ask him? He
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changed the world. I mean, Steve Jobs passed away. I
got his quotes all over the place, and now, granted
terrible day, I'm wearing his outfit in memory of him
or Elizabeth Holmes. We're not sure. You know, it's up
for debate. Am I working at fair? Nos Am I
not working at fair? Nos Am I an alien? I
don't know. We'll get to that later. Might be a
from Rodeo from the Rodeo to Fox NFL Sunday about
(28:33):
when I had to how about when I actually said
on your show, I was like bare back saddle, bronken
bull writing, and I was like, just pull that quote out,
and that's gonna be a problem. I'm gonna have to,
you know, defend you know, our cowboy Hey, we got
a lot of cowboys listening, so we'll get Our demographic
is absurd. It's insane. The people that listen to our show.
(28:54):
The range of people from political standpoints, ages, back browns,
everything is very big. It's nice to be hopefully a
spot that people can feel as if rolling this together,
We're gonna listen to this stooge speak to people or whatever.
That's the fans field. But Elan is a guy who's
changed the world, like Steve Steve Jobs, you know, single
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handedly changed the way the entire world operates. I think
Elon Muski is another guy that has done that. I
wish I could talk to Steve, but Ellen's probably the
guy in the sports world. Give me Jerry Jones ten
times out of ten. Oh my god, I would love
you to talk to him. We've got to make that happen. Hey, Aaron,
by the time that this ours airs, I'm sure that
Good English ours airs. Uh. I'm sure Tom's will be
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out before the compilation. But if it's not, we'll just
pull this part. But tell how what you guys just did.
And then, um, the question the Peyton Manning thing I
think is so interesting. Oh yeah, so I just got asked.
And before you got on, I told Chris, I wish
you had been on it because I feel like you
would have. He would have just gotten a huge kick
out of you and loved it. I'm gonna tell on
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his podcast, Let's Go. They invited a bunch of broadcasters anchors.
I got on it, um, and I took a lot.
I'm in notes. I'm a geek. I take a lot
of notes. I love this ship. So one thing he said,
which fuck, I just loved it, and I just died
for interceptions ruins his night. He could throw for eight touchdowns,
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but just one interception. Ruins his whole night. But what
was the one thing? And then I'll get to the page.
It was the bandmitting that he went back and watched games.
I know, I know, I know, but hold on, I
love the whole thing. What drives and we're live, okay,
dead air Hello. Pursuit of perfection, he calls it. What
drives him still, the pursuit of perfection. It's a sickness.
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He's just he said, it's a little maddening. But um,
Steve Young came on and that was amazing and he
talked about how that was his hero and all that.
But he said he was just so interested in how
people go about their craft. And he said every year
at the end of the season he would go back
and watch every single Indianapolis Colts game and say to himself,
what Peyton doing that I'm not doing? I just love it.
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It's crazy, isn't it. And then you hear the stories.
Uh and by the way, let's go also on Serious
Sextum generally to Mad Dog Sports Radio, I believe, which
is a company that licensed our show as well, which
is pretty sweet. I mean, that's a that's a good time.
Jim Gray, right, Jims that There's been a lot of
great quotes that have come out of that. Then you
hear the stories about Tom and Peyton hanging out together,
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just those two together like in Tennessee and then having
like basically a QB summit of Hey, we're on a
different level than everybody. Nobody can really talk to us
except for each other about the ship that we see
and then becoming like friends behind the scenes is insane.
I was lucky to watch Peyton work, even though it's
very very different position in both life and on the
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football field, watching him go about his craft and then
how he would handle, you know that being a teammate
while also knowing that he was the GM at the
same time if you really wanted to cut somebody, and
then running the practice as a coach, but that would
also be in a cool guy you want to drink
a beer with. Watching him kind of handle life. Being
Peyton Manning was it's much different than what Tom and
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him talk about, but for me it was it has
done huge for me long haul. Uh. There's there's some
people that are incredibly impressive that I try to be
a sponge around, and Peyton was one of them. And
the fact that he enjoyed how fast I could chug
a beer. So I got a chance to fly with
him to certain places. Was obviously awesome. That was obviously
friends with planes is always awesome. I know that you
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have a lot of stuff to do, so we'll get
you out of here in one second. But I love
the story that you're thank you so sweet. The story
that you told on Monday night football with him and
Eli about the party that he that Peyton has at
his house and you went into the bathroom and on
the napkins, I mean teas and peas him. Tell the
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story again in case anyone missed it. Yeah, teas and peas,
so always napkins. So there was a Thanksgiving dinner that
was if people weren't going back home or if they
didn't have family, lean found and I was young and
I didn't that family. I was just living in an
apartment basically. And at that point he had I think
he'd become a fan of me, potentially off the field,
which is cool, you know, having a guy that is
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a living legend. Enjoy you. And I got to be
in some rooms that I should not have been. It,
I mean, I I got to be I got a
chance to hang out with Pat Some, Bruce Pearl, Peyton Manning,
the mayor of Knoxville, the governor of Tennessee, all in
a suite while watching a volunteer game be Memphis. UM
was at one versus to Memphis versus Tennessee Derrick Ros
(33:35):
versus Tennessee. When Bruce Pearl did that to me in
the interview, No, no, this was a long time. It
was a football game. But I do appreciate what. I
don't remember what happened because I I wait, hold on
what it happened? Aaron real quickly? What did he do
in versus to uh Memphis Caliparry and Derrick Grows versus volunteers.
(33:56):
It was in Memphis. I remember Justin was there, and
they did a job. They did a great job in
the first half shutting down Derrick Rose. And I got
Bruce Pearl going off and uh, I just said, hey,
what have you done to Derrick Rose. He's just he
hasn't done anything in this game. He goes, we're holding him,
getting to him kind of like this, and he grabbed me,
(34:17):
pretending he was guarding me. And I was like, okay,
And it really for YouTube similar to fifty cents experience
with Okay, that's saying I couldn't even imagine your guy's life.
By the way, I couldn't have the time. My reaction
doesn't help the situation. It wasn't that bad. I just
wasn't expected to be like him doing it like a
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tutorial on how they're guarding Derrick Rose and holding it,
you know what I mean? Anyway back to your rooms. No, no, no, no,
I was about to say, because you also got the
I mean you've been yelled at on the grandest day.
I mean, you are we alluding to Richard Sherman. I
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believe we are that. I just when you saw that happen?
What did you think, pat Well? I just I was like, wow,
like this is uh, this is real life right now exactly.
And then I knew I lived on the internet. I knew,
you know, like as soon as so something like that happens,
I thought you crushed them as you always. But didn't
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you think like it was awesome to see a guy
just he clearly didn't like Michael Crabtree just freaking go off.
I thought it was awesome. Yeah. It's kind of why
Aaron talks about being able to do the show every Tuesday.
It's like all the key and stage robotic. And this
is no offense to you too, because you two are
networks superstar as you should know, you're not robotic, your
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network superstars. But the networks used to pick and shoot
what stories are being told, how people are being depicted,
who's going to be a star, who's not going to
be a star, what's gonna be said, what's not gonna
be said? Now it's just completely different old where we
don't even have to you can just go right to
the source. And Tom Brady is somebody that very much
understands that he utilizes his social media better than a
(36:08):
lot of people that have ever played in sports. You
look across the NBA, it's obviously a real thing. Aaron
Rodgers getting a chance, I mean it is. It's a
new world. And to be clear, I don't think that
is because of you know, the fact of how you
guys go about doing business. I just think it's the
modern world. At this point, you to your point, you
get a chance to bring out some of these real
(36:29):
moments with people because I'll be I'll comfortable everybody is
with old Aaron Andrews, with Ald it was it was, oh, well,
it was the there's no d on the end of that. Wait,
I interrupted your story talking about air No, no, no,
I ask about because we're gonna talk to him tomorrow
Wednesday whenever that is Aaron Wednesdays with more Tuesdays with Marie,
(36:53):
whatever you call it. I want to ask, please, did
you give him a hard time? Is that the first
thing on your mind when someone's flicking you off? I
still own you. I still That's the first thing mine
would be, like sucking, I still own you. Oh I
love it. I think um. I think he was probably told.
(37:13):
I didn't ask him about the whole thing, you know,
I mean we're talking, We talked about it, we did
the whole thing, and he said that he kind of
just blacked out and went into a thing. I assume
he was told about his stats in this game and
what the record is, because whenever you talk to us
about it, he said before far Vy is how he
gets into it. Before far Vy. The Bears dominated this series,
(37:36):
and this is a legendary series that goes back like
a hundred years. It's one of the only real rivalries left.
So I like the fact that Aaron still cherishes the
rivalry because that's kind of like years. Yeah, it's kind
of but it's kind of old school, you know, because
players are getting signed on Wednesday and Thursday, playing in
this game on Sunday, and they're like, hey, this is
a big rivalry game, and a lot of guys are like, hey,
(37:57):
I'm just trying to get paid from is trying to
do my job. The fact that Aaron still views that rivalry, yeah,
and what is passionate is what I loved it personally,
But I don't know if I'd ever be able to
say it to anybody or anything except for maybe No.
I wouldn't even say it to my dogs because they
owned mee us. So I'm just happy I'm not in
(38:17):
a situation where I would ever have to say that.
Speaking of your pups one more time, can you let
us know what Sam's charity is so we can make
sure that we participate and plug that for the brand
F you are T G, B R, A N D.
It's a what's that called? It's a full thing, it's
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a natural thing. There's a there's a category of foundation.
She's she's done all the paper where she's gone through
the entire I mean, she is all in on this
and I'm so incredibly happy for proud of her, and
I think it's really gonna do good ship. Well. We
are huge fans of yours and now of hers for
the work that she's doing, but also being married to you.
What a prize, Pat McAfee. Of you that don't know
(39:02):
Pat McAfee show Monday through Friday, twelve to three Serious
x M as well as YouTube. You are a gentleman
and a scholar, and we appreciate your candidness as a scholar.
That's what it says on Wikipedia scholar. No no no,
So that's where that would me, Steve Jobs, Albert Einstein
in a West All college dropouts. But I learned from
incredible people in this business like YouTube. Thank you so
(39:24):
much for you, Oh a, Pat. We appreciate you. We
could talk for our friend. I still own you, Pat.
I'm a good one. Thank you. Saring love you, thank you,
thank you. Calm Down with Aaron and Carissa is a
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production of I Heart Radio. For more podcasts from my
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