December 30, 2025 • 22 mins
On this post-holiday Pregame episode of the Calm Down podcast, Erin and Charissa talk about the one thing about Christmas that they don't like; that it ends. That, along with the process of finding places to store all the Christmas plates!
They talk about feeling uncomfortable when they see themselves on TV, and other things you learn when watching “game film”. Another question leads to a discussion about being comfortable with your own journey and the challenge of trying to see the positives of that journey in the moment.
They talk about what they would do if they could do another job for a week - Charissa would like to be a kindergarten teacher and Erin would like to come back as a dancer on Taylor Swift’s next tour. After many discussions about facing life head-on, Erin talks about the bravery of those who tackle infertility.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Instead of saying, how do you process this, I would
like to say, because I don't know how. I think
you're so brave for doing that. That is a whole
other layer of stuff. But I think you're really, really brave.
I think you're brave for trying to tackle IVF. I
think you're brave for trying to tackle infertility and to
have even the whole conversation about donor eggs.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
That's a whole other layer of courage.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Calm Down with Erin and Chrissa is a production of iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Hey, the one highlight?
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Well, I have several highlights of Christmas, but something on
a highlights up my hair.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
I don't wait to get them next week for the playoffs.
She's ready.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
But before that we'll discuss Week eighteen. Welcome to the pregame. Everybody.
One tradition that has started. I guess it won't be
a tradition unless we do it next year. But Max
started this thing for Christmas. That there is the deck
the whole song, right, he.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Is obsessed with fla la la la, but he does
it as.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
But then it turned into every time the chorus comes,
he points to somebody in the house.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Daddy daddy la la la la, Mommy fa la la
la la la la, Grandpa la la la la la,
and then he goes macky L.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
I get to a point if I'm alive when this
kid is twenty five, may freak.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
That's really cute. It was really cute.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
We will discuss holidays week seventeen, all the things on
the Big Show. But right now, welcome to the free Game,
and we will start off with your start.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Baby, you want me to fla la la la la
la la s tee la la la la la la
la la la. You hit it.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
We've got and I'm not going to pronounce this right,
so my apologies because I'm not sure or first last
all the above guests, Lyn Guardi, Hello from Brazil. What
about Christmas? Do you not like? Love both you girls.
First of all, Hello from Brazil. I love that I've
never had to Brazil. Hello in Portuguese. I don't know,
(02:16):
I don't know, I don't know. I know that Julian
Edelmans knew how to say clown in Portuguese or something.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
I said, Oh okay, but you don't know all that
Portuguese jewels Joelsh, are you chills?
Speaker 1 (02:32):
I mean, that's another thing. We can talk about that
on the Big Show. Those guys damn dreams. All right.
I don't know how to say hello in Portuguese, but
I do know. What I don't like about Christmas is
that it ends. I am such a person that doesn't
want to Now, Steve and I were able to sneak
up to the ranch here for a couple of days,
and before we left. It's going to be, you know,
(02:54):
a couple of days into January when we come back,
and I was like, oh, we got to take down
the Christmas tree before.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
We leave, and he goes, no, we're not.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
I was like, but I don't also want to come home,
and now it's Christmas is long gone and I'm still
looking at the tree. I put my tree up before
Thanks I mean it was just after Halloween. I put
my tree up. That bitch has been up for two months,
and I still don't want to take it down. I
just never wanted to end. I love the spirit, I
love the feeling.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
I love all the things.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
So that's the part that I don't love about Christmas
is that it has to come to an end.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
That's such an adult thing to say.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Because I got home for the first time last night
in about maybe twelve days, and the gingerbread houses were
still out. The nanny sent a video while I'm in
the stopping wet conditions in Buffalo of the two and
a half year old reaching up to grab a gum
drop from the month old gingerbread house and eating it.
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He didn't care, so I grabbed him.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
I threw him off. The counters look very clean.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
But yeah, I hate putting it away. Jared's coming home
tonight from work, and I'm excited for him to do
it because he loves doing it. It's jersey off, as
he likes to say, backwards and Daddy's backing up the
tree and.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
I'll get a he he loves it.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
I am very very I'm in a real grateful for
Jared mood. Not that I'm always not, but like my
husband was more incredible. Yeah, so well we'll get to
that in the big show. But yeah, that is one
quality about my husband that I truly, truly love is
there's a lot of huffin and puffin.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
There's a lot of you know, heavy breathing.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
There's a lot of a like we're sweating, we I know,
the drill, the jersey comes off, the hack goes backwards,
we're talking about ourself and third person. Daddy hates this part. Okay,
you know what, Daddy, Relax. But and then Daddy comes
upstairs and talks about how we got to get more
room in that garage. And hey, Dave, I think you'll
like what I did with it this time around versus last. Sure,
(05:00):
you put it in the same place. I will say
this though, Jared is very organized, and I adore Steve,
but Steve doesn't have a process yet in putting this
step away. And he did say he's like, I'll put
the tree away next Sunday when you're at work, which
I appreciate. I don't want to put the tree away.
I don't want to do all that stuff.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
It's not our job. No, it feels like a boy job.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
It feels like taking up the trash cans is similar
to putting the Christmas tree away and all that stuff.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
However, then when Christmas rolled around this year and I
went to take all the ornaments out and the ship's
just stuffed in there and nothing is organized, I'm like,
I can't get mad at him because he put it away,
but I'm like, you look like you just like you know,
shoved everything in here with no order, and now half
the shit's broken, So pick your poison. He either's gonna
put it away, or it's not gonna be done right,
(05:47):
or I can just do it and shut the fuck up.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
So anyway, that's what.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
We don't like.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
A La la la la lati.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Next, okay, pulling it back up, Kendall, Kendall di'angelo.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Sorry, guys, is it cool to see yourself on TV?
Speaker 1 (06:09):
I get grossed out. I can't look at myself in
a picture. I'm so grossed out. I'm like, oh no,
stand up straight, dot your jowin body dysmorphia on issue.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
When I see myself, yeah, I think. I still think
it's really cool.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
When I see Aaron on TV, I get so excited
and I have to text her and be like, I
love this look, I love great hit like. I feel
like that part will never get old, saying you know
friends on TV on TV last week. I'm so busy.
I don't like to see myself on TV, but I
will say this, I still do watch back shows. I
(06:44):
watch back shows for a couple of different reasons, very
similar to and I hate to liken myself to an
athlete but I will game film because there's things that
I want to always improve on, and there's things that
I want to always work on, and I don't ever
want to just be an autopilot, like yeah, go do
the show and then throw it away when I go
back and watch shows specifically on Thursday night, because there's
(07:06):
more components of that show than there is in a
controlled studio setting. So admitting I don't watch as many
Fox shows back because that feels like it's a little
bit more routine without the element of being out in
a game. But watching your stuff back, watching stuff back,
I pick up on idiosyncrasies that I have that I
don't like about myself, and also ways that I can
(07:29):
be a better host to tee the guys up or
do a better job.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Of following up on things.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
So yeah, I watch things back to get better at
my job, but not in this like arrogant way of
let me just watch myself on TV. I'm good on
that because to Aaron's point, then I start going like
this pulling my job back, going wow, that outfit definitely
didn't look as cute as I thought it did.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
So yeah, negative self talk.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Is not good.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Just stuff with your for the Nation. Hey, I that's
so good. I loved it.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
You're the only one that can look like that down conditions. Again,
I thought of you as I was getting dressed for Buffalo.
It's just like it was just like at one point
it was like, holy fuck, this is like a monsoon.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
This is wild, and there's nothing you can do.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
And so Rinaldi and I are in, you know, getting ready,
in a trailer together and he's putting on his gear
and I'm putting on mine and he's like, oh my god,
you look right, and I was like, I look crazy.
There's nothing you can do. It's like Carissa again when
she's in the rain. She's got first she's got a
leather hat and like I'm here.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
For it, Like, let's just go. It's fun.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
I kept standing out there all game, and I'm underneath
a set that has a roof to it. So the
components are a little bit different when you consider that.
But no, you actually I'd like to talk about that
on the Big Show because I have some questions in
that pouring down rain, because there was a moment where
I was like, I know you've got your plastic cover,
but at what point can you actually ever write anything
because it's just going to bleed all over the back.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Save it. I love it. I love that stuff.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Anonymous, What to do when Christmas is two much and
mom is asking your next move thirty three and single? Help?
Speaker 2 (09:04):
That's hard, girl. I've been here.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
I've had multiple Christmases where you know the families and
they don't say this, of course, but it's implied. And
my family is so great about giving each other ship
because that's just like our personalities, like, oh, got another
divorce under your belts again, kid, here we go. We
won't have to buy buy the son in law and
he presents because he's out of here.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Thank god. No, it's thank god all of them. No,
it's just I don't know.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
In that case, for you, it sounds like your mom
is asking not any fun jovial way. I think a
lot of people experience that where it's when you show
up at the holidays, it's what are you doing? What's
your job? What's your relationship status? And my brother said
something really interesting one time. My brother's journey in life
has been very vast in that he had a lot
(09:53):
of success in college as a college athlete, he got
into a terrible accident left him almost paralyzed.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
He couldn't walk for a year so long.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
To get back, he went through a lot of ups
and downs, and he would tell me that he hated
going to family functions because he didn't like hearing himself
what he was going through. That when people would ask
him and he had to say it out loud, he
was like, Oh, I hate my current existence, and that's
really difficult that if you don't like where you're at
in life, and then other people are asking you, and
(10:22):
then sometimes you have to be like pretend that things
are great even if they're not, because you don't want
to have to deal with people like oh, it's okay,
or it's or whatever, you know, that kind of stuff.
So in this particular case, I feel you, But I
think that if you are happy in your life, if
you're thirty three and single and you're happy, like you
should just say that, be like mom, I know that
(10:44):
you know it's different for you in your generation when
you were growing up, that you would have already been
married and you would have already had kids. But my generation,
it's okay to be thirty three and single and I
love my life and all that. Now again, I don't
know what your situation is. If you love your current existence,
but if you do, say it loud and say it proud,
and people are going to judge anyways, even if it's
(11:05):
your mom, she's going to judge. And hopefully you're able
to have constructive conversations with her and she's reciprocated, like
she's you know, willing to listen and be like it's okay, great,
I'm glad you're happy, even if it's not what I
thought your life would look like.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
I was thirty three and single.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
I didn't have a family, I didn't have a boyfriend,
I didn't have any of that stuff.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
It just, yeah, it's different strokes for different folks.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
And here's the thing, doing wish maybe I had gotten
married a little younger and things were different, like fertility wise, sure.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
But that just wasn't my path. I also got to
do a lot.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Of great shit when I was thirty three, thirty four,
thirty five that would have been hard like today. I
was complaining to Chris, I haven't, you know, made a
minute for myself because we had a lot going on
over the holiday, and you know, Mac, I was like,
I love you, I'm and then I felt so depressed
when I was working out, but I was like, I
got to do it because I've had a lot of
shit going on. I hate to say it, but it
all kind of happens for a reason and it all
(11:59):
works out.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
But it's hard to see it in the moment. It is.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Yeah, I think that in your but if in this
anonymous particular case, I think that just you know, deal
with it head.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
On and said, Mom, I'm good, Okay, leave me alone.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Anna Ka twenty three? Hit it, sister?
Speaker 1 (12:26):
How do you find this range choice holiday decorations and
keep it neat? I wish I could FaceTime Jarrett right now.
So I don't do that right now. I do the candles,
and I do the plates, and I do the napkins
and all that stuff inside, like the things that what do.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
You mean you do that? Well?
Speaker 1 (12:44):
We have special Christmas candles, and I have special Christmas plates,
and I have special Christo plate plates.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
What I do? Oh my god, Martha, who knew that's adorable?
Speaker 1 (12:55):
William Sonoma had a great for years. I don't know
if they are doing it still really old fashioned Christmas
holiday stuff.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
And I got even the like I think.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
It's called the tartar plates that they're like plaid, and
then I put the holiday plan.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
You know what you.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
Got the you've got to charge your plates to charge
when I say tartar sauce, Yeah, I have the charger
plates when you when we Yeah, I have a set
in Montana and I have a set here when we
use it together, both in Montana and here.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
I would like to do things over and I would
like to have great, have me use my plates. Okay,
we're going to save this for the big show too,
for our sweet wonderful producer is going to write this
down because I we do need to talk about this
on the big show. You and I are having our
own Christmas. We haven't Christmas together in New Year together too,
exchange some presents and all that kind of stuff because
(13:47):
I called airin wood again, we'll talk about on the
big show.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Great Christmas isn't over for us.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
I need a redo or the New Year's because I
know that this will air on New Year's Day or
actually it won't.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
I can't keep track of anything. I'm just excited to
celebrate with you. And who knew that my gal had
charge your plates? Well, I called them tartar plates cute
to answer the question for Anna K twenty three in
terms of storage, I got to tell you right now,
I'm on a real kick.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
With Steve throwing it out.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
I said, we have too much stuff. I don't know
when this happened the other day, because he doesn't like
folding his clothes, and so if he really doesn't like
doing something, do I want to fold clothes?
Speaker 2 (14:23):
No?
Speaker 1 (14:24):
But I'm trying to be like, hey, I don't like
emptying the dishwasher, and he does that all the time.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
So I was folding his clothes.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
I must have folded no joke, sixteen white T shirts.
They call them mountain again, exactly clean clothes mountain. Yeah, yeah,
he gets it. It's out of control because he doesn't
put the stuff away because he didn't like doing that.
So I'm folding the clothes and I'm like, why do
you have sixteen of the same T shirts? This is ridiculous.
It's just like gluttonous and like, we don't need all
this stuff. But he could say the same about me.
(14:52):
Why do you have a closet full of all these
shoes that you never even wear? I need and I
feel like I purge a lot, but you just look
around and I'm I'm like, but why is there so
much stuff?
Speaker 2 (15:02):
It feels gross.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
I don't even end up using half of it, and
then it's like I just want it. Maybe that's what
one of my New Year's resolutions will be. I'm gonna
simplify things and edit down a lot of stuff, even
like glassware. Why do we have all of these cups
in the We just use the same ones that are
right in front because you're not reaching up to shelf
number four to use that Master's Cup from twenty nineteen.
(15:26):
We don't have to save every cup from every place
we've ever been.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
But it's cute all this.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
I do like having all matching cops. But I like
the Master's Cup. I like the Jimmy Fallon cop. Like,
but I'm not reaching one for it. You're not reaching
for it. So is there like a cup hall of
Fame where it's like, Okay, we'll save the ones have
to go. I know this is a Larry David is
(15:51):
I just don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
It's too much stuff.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
It's too much stuff, all right, Megan o'connall, if you
could do any job for one week, what would it be?
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Magge?
Speaker 1 (16:01):
I love this question. I have so many things that
I would do. Do you know what you would do?
I mean, off the top of your ead. I love
a stint on the Weather Channel. I love the Today
Show for a week? Good what else I was going?
I always wanted to host Good Morning America or one
of those Today shows, But I also have to give
(16:22):
it to them waking up that early.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
I don't know if I have it in me.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
I would want to be a kindergarten or first grade teacher. Wow,
a week is all I could probably do for a week,
because that would definitely test the patience of those incredible
men and women that are first or kindergarten teachers or
teachers in general. But I just those little babies, and like,
I would love them walking and be like missus Thompson,
(16:44):
look look look like. I just think it'd be so cute,
and they'd be so excited to show me their artwork
and all their little things, and like just that look
on their face when they start to read or write.
I just feel like it would bring me so much joy.
I would also be neurovirus. Yeah, I don't know. This
is my magical fairyland for one week. There are no
(17:05):
sickness good. There are no weird I love nothing, but yeah,
something like that, or I think it would be really
cool to I don't know, it be like a pilot
or fly.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
I don't know. I just think that's like, what a
fun question. If this is.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Fairy land or dreamland, I mine is. And we've talked
about this before. I am only on episode too, midway
through two of Taylor's doc which I don't know if
we've talked about this already. I've blanked out any times.
I cried all through the first one. I can't and
I one of my very, very tough, strong best friends,
(17:41):
Jacqueline Quick said she just finished the whole thing, and
Bald said, quote unquote, my sleeves were wet from wiping
my tears the whole doc series. I would like to
come back as one of those dancers.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
My dream in life.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
I would like to walk down that stage with her
during Style, one of my favorite songs ever. But then,
if I'm going to go that far, I would like
to be classically trained and phenomenal like all the things
I think I can do in my head as a dancer.
And you can do that, by the way, no, as
you can Amanda, Amanda, She's great, and I mean they're
all great.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Is that one with the blonde hair?
Speaker 4 (18:14):
Uh huh?
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Yeah, yeah, I love I. Actually, you guys finished it.
We finished it. We did when we came home actually
from Kansas City, and we were worthless that day. We
had nothing, and we were like, let's just he fell asleep,
so he needs to finish it. But I watched the
rest of it, and then I was so inspired after
watching the full doc, I went back and watched her
(18:34):
last concert because during the doc, you're like, oh God,
I want to listen to these songs, and I want to, like,
you know, because they you know, have obviously are talking
about the whole is the content with the new the
last one, the Yeah, it's her last show in Vancouver.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Where is it? It's on Disney Plus. Shut up. I
didn't know that, Okay.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Yeah, So then yeah, I pulled I pulled a late
one because I was like, really in after watching the
doc and I was like, now I want to watch
the whole concert, so wow, we should talk about this
on the Big Show. A lot to talk about on
the Big Show because there was so many things I
took away from that docuseriies just yeah, we'll save it.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
I got I can't wait. What's new? So yeah, performer,
Oh that would be good.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Count artists. I would love to be a country artist.
In my mind, I think I am.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
There's two people.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Sorry to keep going on this whole thing, there's you
know again, I haven't finished the doc, but you could
just see the love. And what I also loved from
the first and the two and a half that I've
watched is how much Taylor appreciates and just gives her dancers,
her performers, her singers, her musician that you know, kind
of stage themselves and and just loves on them. And
(19:50):
I think that's so great. My sister always said with
everything she's heard, Celine Dion was really like that and
like dancers didn't want to leave her tour, that they
were cessed with working with her. So wow, that's so cool.
Isn't that always great? When people you love you hope
that they're like that, and then you see that they
actually are, and you're like man Selene I always when
(20:14):
that Stern, I was like, you're fragile. Don't get your
sternam like that? You little miss her?
Speaker 2 (20:19):
How I do? I don't know, but I'll tell you what.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
When she showed up on that Eiffel Tower, because I
know she was going through her heal stuff at the
Olympics that she showed up, I was like, you want to.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Talk about balling?
Speaker 1 (20:28):
I was like, Oh, my heart will go on or
not be after watching this non it? Okay, you're anonymous
husband and I may have to utilize donor eggs as
IVF is not going well, how do you process this?
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Well?
Speaker 1 (20:43):
That means there's not much that isn't making me emotional
right now. That's a lot, Honey, that's a whole lot
of stuff. I don't know because I am not there yet.
I have thought about that a lot. That is I
instead of saying how do you process as this, I
would like to say, because I don't know how, I
(21:04):
think you're so brave for doing that. That is a
whole other layer of stuff. That is a lot. Yeah,
I can't even imagine. I can't imagine that because I've
thought about it a lot. But I think you're really
really brave. I think you're brave for trying to tackle IVF.
I think you're brave for trying to tackle infertility and
to have even the whole conversation about donor eggs.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
That's a whole other layer of courage. So good for you.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
As my best friend would say, give yourself some grace.
Talk to your people about it. Even if your friends CHRISA. Thompson,
Jacqueline Quick, Megan Carter, don't Heather don't know what it's
like to go through that. They're always there to listen.
They're always there to praise you, love on you, and
give you another perspective about the whole thing, which is
really helpful. A lot of times with IVF you feel like, well,
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they don't understand because they didn't go through it.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Not the case.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
They give you great if you have a good group,
they give you good perspective on how to attack things,
how to look at things, how to kind of compartmentalize things.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
So and talk to your partner about it too, because
that's so important. That's really sweet.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
I like that and that makes me emotional just listening
and you say that, but I love that.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
All Right, we have a big show.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
We're going to recap week seventeen, recap the holidays. We
are this will you know, roll this thing into the
new year twenty twenty six, I know twenty twenty five
was not a great year for a lot of people,
hoping that the new year offers love, happiness, and help
see you on the big show.
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Instead of saying, how do you process this, I would
like to say, because I don't know how. I think
you're so brave for doing that. That is a whole
other layer of stuff. But I think you're really, really brave.
I think you're brave for trying to tackle IVF. I
think you're brave for trying to tackle infertility and to
have even the whole conversation about donor eggs.
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That's a whole other layer of courage.
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Calm Down with Erin and Chrissa is a production of iHeartRadio.
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Hey, the one highlight?
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Well, I have several highlights of Christmas, but something on
a highlights up my hair.
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I don't wait to get them next week for the playoffs.
She's ready.
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But before that we'll discuss Week eighteen. Welcome to the pregame. Everybody.
One tradition that has started. I guess it won't be
a tradition unless we do it next year. But Max
started this thing for Christmas. That there is the deck
the whole song, right, he.
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Is obsessed with fla la la la, but he does
it as.
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But then it turned into every time the chorus comes,
he points to somebody in the house.
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Daddy daddy la la la la, Mommy fa la la
la la la la, Grandpa la la la la la,
and then he goes macky L.
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I get to a point if I'm alive when this
kid is twenty five, may freak.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
That's really cute. It was really cute.
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We will discuss holidays week seventeen, all the things on
the Big Show. But right now, welcome to the free Game,
and we will start off with your start.
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Baby, you want me to fla la la la la
la la s tee la la la la la la
la la la. You hit it.
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We've got and I'm not going to pronounce this right,
so my apologies because I'm not sure or first last
all the above guests, Lyn Guardi, Hello from Brazil. What
about Christmas? Do you not like? Love both you girls.
First of all, Hello from Brazil. I love that I've
never had to Brazil. Hello in Portuguese. I don't know,
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I don't know, I don't know. I know that Julian
Edelmans knew how to say clown in Portuguese or something.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
I said, Oh okay, but you don't know all that
Portuguese jewels Joelsh, are you chills?
Speaker 1 (02:32):
I mean, that's another thing. We can talk about that
on the Big Show. Those guys damn dreams. All right.
I don't know how to say hello in Portuguese, but
I do know. What I don't like about Christmas is
that it ends. I am such a person that doesn't
want to Now, Steve and I were able to sneak
up to the ranch here for a couple of days,
and before we left. It's going to be, you know,
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a couple of days into January when we come back,
and I was like, oh, we got to take down
the Christmas tree before.
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We leave, and he goes, no, we're not.
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I was like, but I don't also want to come home,
and now it's Christmas is long gone and I'm still
looking at the tree. I put my tree up before
Thanks I mean it was just after Halloween. I put
my tree up. That bitch has been up for two months,
and I still don't want to take it down. I
just never wanted to end. I love the spirit, I
love the feeling.
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I love all the things.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
So that's the part that I don't love about Christmas
is that it has to come to an end.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
That's such an adult thing to say.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Because I got home for the first time last night
in about maybe twelve days, and the gingerbread houses were
still out. The nanny sent a video while I'm in
the stopping wet conditions in Buffalo of the two and
a half year old reaching up to grab a gum
drop from the month old gingerbread house and eating it.
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He didn't care, so I grabbed him.
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I threw him off. The counters look very clean.
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But yeah, I hate putting it away. Jared's coming home
tonight from work, and I'm excited for him to do
it because he loves doing it. It's jersey off, as
he likes to say, backwards and Daddy's backing up the
tree and.
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I'll get a he he loves it.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
I am very very I'm in a real grateful for
Jared mood. Not that I'm always not, but like my
husband was more incredible. Yeah, so well we'll get to
that in the big show. But yeah, that is one
quality about my husband that I truly, truly love is
there's a lot of huffin and puffin.
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There's a lot of you know, heavy breathing.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
There's a lot of a like we're sweating, we I know,
the drill, the jersey comes off, the hack goes backwards,
we're talking about ourself and third person. Daddy hates this part. Okay,
you know what, Daddy, Relax. But and then Daddy comes
upstairs and talks about how we got to get more
room in that garage. And hey, Dave, I think you'll
like what I did with it this time around versus last. Sure,
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you put it in the same place. I will say
this though, Jared is very organized, and I adore Steve,
but Steve doesn't have a process yet in putting this
step away. And he did say he's like, I'll put
the tree away next Sunday when you're at work, which
I appreciate. I don't want to put the tree away.
I don't want to do all that stuff.
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It's not our job. No, it feels like a boy job.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
It feels like taking up the trash cans is similar
to putting the Christmas tree away and all that stuff.
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Yeah.
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However, then when Christmas rolled around this year and I
went to take all the ornaments out and the ship's
just stuffed in there and nothing is organized, I'm like,
I can't get mad at him because he put it away,
but I'm like, you look like you just like you know,
shoved everything in here with no order, and now half
the shit's broken, So pick your poison. He either's gonna
put it away, or it's not gonna be done right,
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or I can just do it and shut the fuck up.
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So anyway, that's what.
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We don't like.
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A La la la la lati.
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Next, okay, pulling it back up, Kendall, Kendall di'angelo.
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Sorry, guys, is it cool to see yourself on TV?
Speaker 1 (06:09):
I get grossed out. I can't look at myself in
a picture. I'm so grossed out. I'm like, oh no,
stand up straight, dot your jowin body dysmorphia on issue.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
When I see myself, yeah, I think. I still think
it's really cool.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
When I see Aaron on TV, I get so excited
and I have to text her and be like, I
love this look, I love great hit like. I feel
like that part will never get old, saying you know
friends on TV on TV last week. I'm so busy.
I don't like to see myself on TV, but I
will say this, I still do watch back shows. I
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watch back shows for a couple of different reasons, very
similar to and I hate to liken myself to an
athlete but I will game film because there's things that
I want to always improve on, and there's things that
I want to always work on, and I don't ever
want to just be an autopilot, like yeah, go do
the show and then throw it away when I go
back and watch shows specifically on Thursday night, because there's
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more components of that show than there is in a
controlled studio setting. So admitting I don't watch as many
Fox shows back because that feels like it's a little
bit more routine without the element of being out in
a game. But watching your stuff back, watching stuff back,
I pick up on idiosyncrasies that I have that I
don't like about myself, and also ways that I can
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be a better host to tee the guys up or
do a better job.
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Of following up on things.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
So yeah, I watch things back to get better at
my job, but not in this like arrogant way of
let me just watch myself on TV. I'm good on
that because to Aaron's point, then I start going like
this pulling my job back, going wow, that outfit definitely
didn't look as cute as I thought it did.
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So yeah, negative self talk.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Is not good.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Just stuff with your for the Nation. Hey, I that's
so good. I loved it.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
You're the only one that can look like that down conditions. Again,
I thought of you as I was getting dressed for Buffalo.
It's just like it was just like at one point
it was like, holy fuck, this is like a monsoon.
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This is wild, and there's nothing you can do.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
And so Rinaldi and I are in, you know, getting ready,
in a trailer together and he's putting on his gear
and I'm putting on mine and he's like, oh my god,
you look right, and I was like, I look crazy.
There's nothing you can do. It's like Carissa again when
she's in the rain. She's got first she's got a
leather hat and like I'm here.
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For it, Like, let's just go. It's fun.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
I kept standing out there all game, and I'm underneath
a set that has a roof to it. So the
components are a little bit different when you consider that.
But no, you actually I'd like to talk about that
on the Big Show because I have some questions in
that pouring down rain, because there was a moment where
I was like, I know you've got your plastic cover,
but at what point can you actually ever write anything
because it's just going to bleed all over the back.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Save it. I love it. I love that stuff.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Anonymous, What to do when Christmas is two much and
mom is asking your next move thirty three and single? Help?
Speaker 2 (09:04):
That's hard, girl. I've been here.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
I've had multiple Christmases where you know the families and
they don't say this, of course, but it's implied. And
my family is so great about giving each other ship
because that's just like our personalities, like, oh, got another
divorce under your belts again, kid, here we go. We
won't have to buy buy the son in law and
he presents because he's out of here.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Thank god. No, it's thank god all of them. No,
it's just I don't know.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
In that case, for you, it sounds like your mom
is asking not any fun jovial way. I think a
lot of people experience that where it's when you show
up at the holidays, it's what are you doing? What's
your job? What's your relationship status? And my brother said
something really interesting one time. My brother's journey in life
has been very vast in that he had a lot
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of success in college as a college athlete, he got
into a terrible accident left him almost paralyzed.
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He couldn't walk for a year so long.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
To get back, he went through a lot of ups
and downs, and he would tell me that he hated
going to family functions because he didn't like hearing himself
what he was going through. That when people would ask
him and he had to say it out loud, he
was like, Oh, I hate my current existence, and that's
really difficult that if you don't like where you're at
in life, and then other people are asking you, and
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then sometimes you have to be like pretend that things
are great even if they're not, because you don't want
to have to deal with people like oh, it's okay,
or it's or whatever, you know, that kind of stuff.
So in this particular case, I feel you, But I
think that if you are happy in your life, if
you're thirty three and single and you're happy, like you
should just say that, be like mom, I know that
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you know it's different for you in your generation when
you were growing up, that you would have already been
married and you would have already had kids. But my generation,
it's okay to be thirty three and single and I
love my life and all that. Now again, I don't
know what your situation is. If you love your current existence,
but if you do, say it loud and say it proud,
and people are going to judge anyways, even if it's
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your mom, she's going to judge. And hopefully you're able
to have constructive conversations with her and she's reciprocated, like
she's you know, willing to listen and be like it's okay, great,
I'm glad you're happy, even if it's not what I
thought your life would look like.
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I was thirty three and single.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
I didn't have a family, I didn't have a boyfriend,
I didn't have any of that stuff.
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It just, yeah, it's different strokes for different folks.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
And here's the thing, doing wish maybe I had gotten
married a little younger and things were different, like fertility wise, sure.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
But that just wasn't my path. I also got to
do a lot.
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Of great shit when I was thirty three, thirty four,
thirty five that would have been hard like today. I
was complaining to Chris, I haven't, you know, made a
minute for myself because we had a lot going on
over the holiday, and you know, Mac, I was like,
I love you, I'm and then I felt so depressed
when I was working out, but I was like, I
got to do it because I've had a lot of
shit going on. I hate to say it, but it
all kind of happens for a reason and it all
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works out.
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But it's hard to see it in the moment. It is.
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Yeah, I think that in your but if in this
anonymous particular case, I think that just you know, deal
with it head.
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On and said, Mom, I'm good, Okay, leave me alone.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Anna Ka twenty three? Hit it, sister?
Speaker 1 (12:26):
How do you find this range choice holiday decorations and
keep it neat? I wish I could FaceTime Jarrett right now.
So I don't do that right now. I do the candles,
and I do the plates, and I do the napkins
and all that stuff inside, like the things that what do.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
You mean you do that? Well?
Speaker 1 (12:44):
We have special Christmas candles, and I have special Christmas plates,
and I have special Christo plate plates.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
What I do? Oh my god, Martha, who knew that's adorable?
Speaker 1 (12:55):
William Sonoma had a great for years. I don't know
if they are doing it still really old fashioned Christmas
holiday stuff.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
And I got even the like I think.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
It's called the tartar plates that they're like plaid, and
then I put the holiday plan.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
You know what you.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
Got the you've got to charge your plates to charge
when I say tartar sauce, Yeah, I have the charger
plates when you when we Yeah, I have a set
in Montana and I have a set here when we
use it together, both in Montana and here.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
I would like to do things over and I would
like to have great, have me use my plates. Okay,
we're going to save this for the big show too,
for our sweet wonderful producer is going to write this
down because I we do need to talk about this
on the big show. You and I are having our
own Christmas. We haven't Christmas together in New Year together too,
exchange some presents and all that kind of stuff because
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I called airin wood again, we'll talk about on the
big show.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Great Christmas isn't over for us.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
I need a redo or the New Year's because I
know that this will air on New Year's Day or
actually it won't.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
I can't keep track of anything. I'm just excited to
celebrate with you. And who knew that my gal had
charge your plates? Well, I called them tartar plates cute
to answer the question for Anna K twenty three in
terms of storage, I got to tell you right now,
I'm on a real kick.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
With Steve throwing it out.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
I said, we have too much stuff. I don't know
when this happened the other day, because he doesn't like
folding his clothes, and so if he really doesn't like
doing something, do I want to fold clothes?
Speaker 2 (14:23):
No?
Speaker 1 (14:24):
But I'm trying to be like, hey, I don't like
emptying the dishwasher, and he does that all the time.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
So I was folding his clothes.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
I must have folded no joke, sixteen white T shirts.
They call them mountain again, exactly clean clothes mountain. Yeah, yeah,
he gets it. It's out of control because he doesn't
put the stuff away because he didn't like doing that.
So I'm folding the clothes and I'm like, why do
you have sixteen of the same T shirts? This is ridiculous.
It's just like gluttonous and like, we don't need all
this stuff. But he could say the same about me.
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Why do you have a closet full of all these
shoes that you never even wear? I need and I
feel like I purge a lot, but you just look
around and I'm I'm like, but why is there so
much stuff?
Speaker 2 (15:02):
It feels gross.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
I don't even end up using half of it, and
then it's like I just want it. Maybe that's what
one of my New Year's resolutions will be. I'm gonna
simplify things and edit down a lot of stuff, even
like glassware. Why do we have all of these cups
in the We just use the same ones that are
right in front because you're not reaching up to shelf
number four to use that Master's Cup from twenty nineteen.
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We don't have to save every cup from every place
we've ever been.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
But it's cute all this.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
I do like having all matching cops. But I like
the Master's Cup. I like the Jimmy Fallon cop. Like,
but I'm not reaching one for it. You're not reaching
for it. So is there like a cup hall of
Fame where it's like, Okay, we'll save the ones have
to go. I know this is a Larry David is
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I just don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
It's too much stuff.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
It's too much stuff, all right, Megan o'connall, if you
could do any job for one week, what would it be?
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Magge?
Speaker 1 (16:01):
I love this question. I have so many things that
I would do. Do you know what you would do?
I mean, off the top of your ead. I love
a stint on the Weather Channel. I love the Today
Show for a week? Good what else I was going?
I always wanted to host Good Morning America or one
of those Today shows, But I also have to give
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it to them waking up that early.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
I don't know if I have it in me.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
I would want to be a kindergarten or first grade teacher. Wow,
a week is all I could probably do for a week,
because that would definitely test the patience of those incredible
men and women that are first or kindergarten teachers or
teachers in general. But I just those little babies, and like,
I would love them walking and be like missus Thompson,
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look look look like. I just think it'd be so cute,
and they'd be so excited to show me their artwork
and all their little things, and like just that look
on their face when they start to read or write.
I just feel like it would bring me so much joy.
I would also be neurovirus. Yeah, I don't know. This
is my magical fairyland for one week. There are no
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sickness good. There are no weird I love nothing, but yeah,
something like that, or I think it would be really
cool to I don't know, it be like a pilot
or fly.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
I don't know. I just think that's like, what a
fun question. If this is.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Fairy land or dreamland, I mine is. And we've talked
about this before. I am only on episode too, midway
through two of Taylor's doc which I don't know if
we've talked about this already. I've blanked out any times.
I cried all through the first one. I can't and
I one of my very, very tough, strong best friends,
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Jacqueline Quick said she just finished the whole thing, and
Bald said, quote unquote, my sleeves were wet from wiping
my tears the whole doc series. I would like to
come back as one of those dancers.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
My dream in life.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
I would like to walk down that stage with her
during Style, one of my favorite songs ever. But then,
if I'm going to go that far, I would like
to be classically trained and phenomenal like all the things
I think I can do in my head as a dancer.
And you can do that, by the way, no, as
you can Amanda, Amanda, She's great, and I mean they're
all great.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Is that one with the blonde hair?
Speaker 4 (18:14):
Uh huh?
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Yeah, yeah, I love I. Actually, you guys finished it.
We finished it. We did when we came home actually
from Kansas City, and we were worthless that day. We
had nothing, and we were like, let's just he fell asleep,
so he needs to finish it. But I watched the
rest of it, and then I was so inspired after
watching the full doc, I went back and watched her
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last concert because during the doc, you're like, oh God,
I want to listen to these songs, and I want to, like,
you know, because they you know, have obviously are talking
about the whole is the content with the new the
last one, the Yeah, it's her last show in Vancouver.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Where is it? It's on Disney Plus. Shut up. I
didn't know that, Okay.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Yeah, So then yeah, I pulled I pulled a late
one because I was like, really in after watching the
doc and I was like, now I want to watch
the whole concert, so wow, we should talk about this
on the Big Show. A lot to talk about on
the Big Show because there was so many things I
took away from that docuseriies just yeah, we'll save it.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
I got I can't wait. What's new? So yeah, performer,
Oh that would be good.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Count artists. I would love to be a country artist.
In my mind, I think I am.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
There's two people.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Sorry to keep going on this whole thing, there's you
know again, I haven't finished the doc, but you could
just see the love. And what I also loved from
the first and the two and a half that I've
watched is how much Taylor appreciates and just gives her dancers,
her performers, her singers, her musician that you know, kind
of stage themselves and and just loves on them. And
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I think that's so great. My sister always said with
everything she's heard, Celine Dion was really like that and
like dancers didn't want to leave her tour, that they
were cessed with working with her. So wow, that's so cool.
Isn't that always great? When people you love you hope
that they're like that, and then you see that they
actually are, and you're like man Selene I always when
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that Stern, I was like, you're fragile. Don't get your
sternam like that? You little miss her?
Speaker 2 (20:19):
How I do? I don't know, but I'll tell you what.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
When she showed up on that Eiffel Tower, because I
know she was going through her heal stuff at the
Olympics that she showed up, I was like, you want to.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Talk about balling?
Speaker 1 (20:28):
I was like, Oh, my heart will go on or
not be after watching this non it? Okay, you're anonymous
husband and I may have to utilize donor eggs as
IVF is not going well, how do you process this?
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Well?
Speaker 1 (20:43):
That means there's not much that isn't making me emotional
right now. That's a lot, Honey, that's a whole lot
of stuff. I don't know because I am not there yet.
I have thought about that a lot. That is I
instead of saying how do you process as this, I
would like to say, because I don't know how, I
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think you're so brave for doing that. That is a
whole other layer of stuff. That is a lot. Yeah,
I can't even imagine. I can't imagine that because I've
thought about it a lot. But I think you're really
really brave. I think you're brave for trying to tackle IVF.
I think you're brave for trying to tackle infertility and
to have even the whole conversation about donor eggs.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
That's a whole other layer of courage. So good for you.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
As my best friend would say, give yourself some grace.
Talk to your people about it. Even if your friends CHRISA. Thompson,
Jacqueline Quick, Megan Carter, don't Heather don't know what it's
like to go through that. They're always there to listen.
They're always there to praise you, love on you, and
give you another perspective about the whole thing, which is
really helpful. A lot of times with IVF you feel like, well,
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they don't understand because they didn't go through it.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Not the case.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
They give you great if you have a good group,
they give you good perspective on how to attack things,
how to look at things, how to kind of compartmentalize things.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
So and talk to your partner about it too, because
that's so important. That's really sweet.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
I like that and that makes me emotional just listening
and you say that, but I love that.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
All Right, we have a big show.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
We're going to recap week seventeen, recap the holidays. We
are this will you know, roll this thing into the
new year twenty twenty six, I know twenty twenty five
was not a great year for a lot of people,
hoping that the new year offers love, happiness, and help
see you on the big show.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
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The Burden
The Burden is a documentary series that takes listeners into the hidden places where justice is done (and undone). It dives deep into the lives of heroes and villains. And it focuses a spotlight on those who triumph even when the odds are against them. Season 5 - The Burden: Death & Deceit in Alliance On April Fools Day 1999, 26-year-old Yvonne Layne was found murdered in her Alliance, Ohio home. David Thorne, her ex-boyfriend and father of one of her children, was instantly a suspect. Another young man admitted to the murder, and David breathed a sigh of relief, until the confessed murderer fingered David; “He paid me to do it.” David was sentenced to life without parole. Two decades later, Pulitzer winner and podcast host, Maggie Freleng (Bone Valley Season 3: Graves County, Wrongful Conviction, Suave) launched a “live” investigation into David's conviction alongside Jason Baldwin (himself wrongfully convicted as a member of the West Memphis Three). Maggie had come to believe that the entire investigation of David was botched by the tiny local police department, or worse, covered up the real killer. Was Maggie correct? Was David’s claim of innocence credible? In Death and Deceit in Alliance, Maggie recounts the case that launched her career, and ultimately, “broke” her.” The results will shock the listener and reduce Maggie to tears and self-doubt. This is not your typical wrongful conviction story. In fact, it turns the genre on its head. It asks the question: What if our champions are foolish? Season 4 - The Burden: Get the Money and Run “Trying to murder my father, this was the thing that put me on the path.” That’s Joe Loya and that path was bank robbery. Bank, bank, bank, bank, bank. In season 4 of The Burden: Get the Money and Run, we hear from Joe who was once the most prolific bank robber in Southern California, and beyond. He used disguises, body doubles, proxies. He leaped over counters, grabbed the money and ran. Even as the FBI was closing in. It was a showdown between a daring bank robber, and a patient FBI agent. Joe was no ordinary bank robber. He was bright, articulate, charismatic, and driven by a dark rage that he summoned up at will. In seven episodes, Joe tells all: the what, the how… and the why. Including why he tried to murder his father. Season 3 - The Burden: Avenger Miriam Lewin is one of Argentina’s leading journalists today. At 19 years old, she was kidnapped off the streets of Buenos Aires for her political activism and thrown into a concentration camp. Thousands of her fellow inmates were executed, tossed alive from a cargo plane into the ocean. Miriam, along with a handful of others, will survive the camp. Then as a journalist, she will wage a decades long campaign to bring her tormentors to justice. Avenger is about one woman’s triumphant battle against unbelievable odds to survive torture, claim justice for the crimes done against her and others like her, and change the future of her country. Season 2 - The Burden: Empire on Blood Empire on Blood is set in the Bronx, NY, in the early 90s, when two young drug dealers ruled an intersection known as “The Corner on Blood.” The boss, Calvin Buari, lived large. He and a protege swore they would build an empire on blood. Then the relationship frayed and the protege accused Calvin of a double homicide which he claimed he didn’t do. But did he? Award-winning journalist Steve Fishman spent seven years to answer that question. This is the story of one man’s last chance to overturn his life sentence. He may prevail, but someone’s gotta pay. The Burden: Empire on Blood is the director’s cut of the true crime classic which reached #1 on the charts when it was first released half a dozen years ago. Season 1 - The Burden In the 1990s, Detective Louis N. Scarcella was legendary. In a city overrun by violent crime, he cracked the toughest cases and put away the worst criminals. “The Hulk” was his nickname. Then the story changed. Scarcella ran into a group of convicted murderers who all say they are innocent. They turned themselves into jailhouse-lawyers and in prison founded a lway firm. When they realized Scarcella helped put many of them away, they set their sights on taking him down. And with the help of a NY Times reporter they have a chance. For years, Scarcella insisted he did nothing wrong. But that’s all he’d say. Until we tracked Scarcella to a sauna in a Russian bathhouse, where he started to talk..and talk and talk. “The guilty have gone free,” he whispered. And then agreed to take us into the belly of the beast. Welcome to The Burden.