February 23, 2025 • 25 mins
Therapy continues at RENEWAL with Anti-Racism Spin Class, Bad Touch Football, Harass the Harasser and a revealing ayahuasca ceremony led by self-taught shaman Kai.
Cancellation Island stars Holly Hunter as Karen and is written by John Cameron Mitchell and Michael Cavadias, directed by John Cameron Mitchell, and produced by Christy Gressman. A Topic Studios and iHeart Podcasts production.
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Speaker 1 (00:12):
Cancelation Island by John Cameron Mitchell and Michael Kevadillas, a
Topic Studios production, recorded in front of a live audience
at the Bellhouse, Brooklyn, New York.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Kai Kirk, come on in, Karen's waiting for you.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
You wanted to see me?
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Any word on Chris who? Chris Katz who disappeared?
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (00:32):
Yes, she's probably just taking a break from us. She'll
be back right.
Speaker 5 (00:35):
Keelka, Sure she will, Okay, Karen.
Speaker 6 (00:38):
A lot of the curators are having problems with their curates.
They all feel that the privileged walk was.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
A step backwards. Very funny.
Speaker 7 (00:51):
I'm listening in ayahuasca ritual.
Speaker 6 (00:55):
What I am a trained shaman and I've brought enough
of the sacrament for everyone.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
I don't want to force religion or drugs on.
Speaker 6 (01:02):
Is a plant medicine, Karen. We need to reset everyone,
bring them back to their default of honesty.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
You're a shaman. Where's you study?
Speaker 5 (01:12):
I'm self trained?
Speaker 2 (01:14):
How did you do that?
Speaker 6 (01:15):
I've led a number of ceremonies on zoom, So please
restrain your man's scolding.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
If you restrain your them explaining.
Speaker 6 (01:22):
Now, Karen, I have found the medicine to be very
useful in my do less workshops. The mother ayahuasca reminds
people that they're part of a whole and that they.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Will die Jesus. You know, I think it's too soon
for this. I'm making progress with Cali.
Speaker 6 (01:38):
Oh yeah, well, good luck with Conan the librarian or
should I say deep fake Debbie?
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Who? Karen? I really think curators should have authority over
their curites treatment.
Speaker 5 (01:50):
So, Karen, what do you think.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
I haven't experienced ayahuasca myself, but the idea of it
dovetails with my theories of pen psychists.
Speaker 6 (01:57):
Yes, you can see the spirits that reside in everything.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
I'm inclined to sanction a session fully voluntary.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Of course.
Speaker 5 (02:04):
No, it can't be.
Speaker 6 (02:05):
We all need to do it. He needs to be leveled.
He they all need to be leveled. Plus they have
all signed liability waivers.
Speaker 8 (02:14):
Me.
Speaker 5 (02:14):
You know, I'm not so sure.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
That they all signed the waivers.
Speaker 5 (02:19):
Oh yeah, they have.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
I think I really need more time with my folks.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
Let's put a pin in this idea and circle back
to it later if we need it.
Speaker 6 (02:27):
Great, Karen, you did guarantee the curator's latitude.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
Yes, but not longitude. What does that mean I'm not sure,
but I've.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Made my decision. Where's Claude.
Speaker 9 (02:37):
I'm right here.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
You more, Thank you curators. Claude and I need to
confer on this.
Speaker 5 (02:45):
What does he have to do with therapy?
Speaker 4 (02:46):
I will have you know that Claude has experienced in
matters of the spirit.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
He was a lay minister. Ko can you see them all?
Speaker 5 (02:53):
Sure thing?
Speaker 9 (02:57):
Claude, what do you think about the ivasca? I have
no opinion.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Yes you do.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
You always have an opinion. I see it in your eyes.
I can sense disdain. I see a person poking around
in there that I want to get to know better.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Karen.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
I value your stoicism, but I would love to ask
your advice on an array of topics. Okay, for example,
what do you even think of my office? I've just
finished decorating.
Speaker 10 (03:28):
What are those things all over the walls?
Speaker 4 (03:30):
Dream catchers? So many dreamcatchers, so few dreams. The success
of this project is perhaps my last dream. Claud it's
lonely at the top. Oh, yes, you've been there. I
believe it, But you've been laid low. You're a king
without a kingdom. It's tantalizing, Karen.
Speaker 9 (03:52):
Your foot seems to be resting on mine.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Is I'm sorry?
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Is it okay?
Speaker 3 (03:58):
There?
Speaker 7 (04:01):
Yes, Claude, what.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Have you lost?
Speaker 5 (04:07):
Oh?
Speaker 9 (04:08):
You don't want to hear it?
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Oh but I do.
Speaker 7 (04:10):
There's nothing more arousing than trauma sharing.
Speaker 9 (04:14):
Maybe later, maybe later, But meanwhile, yes, I would like
to help you. I have some ideas on how this
project can be improved. Oh you're being too nice.
Speaker 11 (04:25):
What do you mean?
Speaker 9 (04:26):
I'm still thinking it all through.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Thank you, Claude.
Speaker 7 (04:30):
Any input is appreciated.
Speaker 9 (04:33):
I'd like to give you more than my input.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
God, what do you mean?
Speaker 5 (04:40):
Oh?
Speaker 7 (04:42):
Yes, I never guessed all my paper clips.
Speaker 12 (04:49):
What are you doing clearing your desk because that's where
you're going?
Speaker 4 (04:53):
Oh, Claude, Oh God, yes, hammer fighting me flattened you.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
I'm a talker.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
I'm a doer and a talker. I'm a mah sh.
Speaker 9 (05:05):
Karen.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
I'm very attracted to you. Oh good, don't be afraid
to fetishize me.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
I don't mind take me, take me now?
Speaker 10 (05:14):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
What a beautiful day you're chipper today, Carl.
Speaker 10 (05:27):
The end of renewal is nigh.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
Oh is it?
Speaker 6 (05:32):
I am trying so hard to figure you out, Carl.
I have a feeling you never felt seen.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
As a child.
Speaker 12 (05:38):
Oh, I was seen and heard and smelt. A man
loves to stink of himself, doesn't he? You know another
reason we're toxic, man.
Speaker 5 (05:46):
I don't think toxic is a useful term. I want
to know what happened to you.
Speaker 12 (05:51):
Carl, okay Kai, you're in the trauma racket as a businessman.
I'm impressed you analyzed the market and found that is trending.
Speaker 10 (06:02):
You disagreed with me.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
I've traumatized and then the clown up there.
Speaker 10 (06:09):
It just makes me feel unsafe. You can find trauma everywhere.
Speaker 12 (06:14):
That's called trauma creep, and it's also called money. But
I prefer the word obstacle to trauma. We either negotiate
obstacles or we don't. And what you see as abuse,
I see as a deal. My female accusers and I
made such a deal. I would help them in their
careers if they would give me the pleasure I required,
(06:36):
or at least witness my pursuit of said pleasure.
Speaker 6 (06:40):
Witness it sinking into the ashes of your mother.
Speaker 10 (06:43):
Yeah, it's kind of poetic. Huh.
Speaker 5 (06:46):
Okay, here's the new deal.
Speaker 6 (06:48):
I've decided to prescribe you with therapeutic regimen of sexual harassment.
Everyone on this island will have permission to exploit you
in any way they please.
Speaker 10 (06:56):
Yeah, that's not really a deal.
Speaker 5 (06:58):
You're gonna feel what they felt.
Speaker 10 (07:00):
Rope for a grope?
Speaker 12 (07:01):
Wow, do less, hurt less my ass. Your as power
hungry as me. Consciously celibate. Nice name for a deranged
in cell.
Speaker 10 (07:10):
I am a vaal cell.
Speaker 6 (07:11):
And the prescription commences today and will last for one week.
Speaker 5 (07:16):
You are dismissed, Cally.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
So how are you feeling today?
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Great?
Speaker 4 (07:30):
I just finished my first anti racism spin class.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Okay, what did you learn?
Speaker 4 (07:36):
That? No matter how fast we go, we'll never get anywhere?
After that, we played bad touch football. Wow, there aren't
very many places you can touch someone safely. And then
we did the blind trust game where a person guides
you around blindfolded at and I won.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
I don't think anybody wins that game.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
They all got mad at me because I know how
to run with a blindfold. Then Keel said we were
appropriating blindness, and they canceled the game. Then no one
would talk to me. It made me wonder, did you
tell Careen about you know what I did?
Speaker 2 (08:08):
No? I didn't. I don't want to interrupt our progress.
Now listen, Kelly, We're going to try some new games today.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Great?
Speaker 2 (08:15):
What some role play?
Speaker 13 (08:17):
Oh? Like?
Speaker 4 (08:17):
Can you stay? Asking to do with the dog?
Speaker 14 (08:19):
What?
Speaker 5 (08:21):
No?
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Okay, I'm going to play different people in your life
and you're going to ask me for the things you want.
Oh gosh, it's gonna be fun. Now. How about I
start by being your babysitter?
Speaker 4 (08:40):
Oh good, I had a cool babysitter named Kyla.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Great, I'm Kyla, weird but cool. I'll start, Hey, Cally,
I'm your new babysitter Kyla.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
Oh can you smoke? Kyla smoked all the time.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Sure, I'll just smoke this pin. What do you want
to do today? CALLI? I don't know what games do
you want to play? Little CALLI?
Speaker 7 (09:02):
Have you ever had a boyfriend?
Speaker 5 (09:03):
Kirk?
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Yes? I have and a girlfriend? Yes? And I neither friend.
Speaker 7 (09:08):
Too weird but cool?
Speaker 4 (09:11):
Okay, Hey, Kylo, you said if I was a good girl,
you'd let me watch you and your boyfriend make out
a mom in dad's bed if I didn't tell anybody.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Well, he's not here today. Anything else you want to do?
Speaker 4 (09:23):
Well, you're a babysitter. Don't you want to sit on me?
It's called princess and the pee. You're the princess and
I'm the pee. Sit on me and see if you
notice me.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
I don't know if I sit on me, Kirk, I
want you to sit on Kelly. I really don't know.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
I'm sorry. That was rude.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
No, it's good you said what you wanted, Kirk. Yes, Kelly.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
Sometimes I forget that I can be noticed.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
I noticed, she Kelly. I'm noticing you right now.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
Thanks. Not too much locallymore like Kyler did and Mom
and everybody else.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
But I can watch you.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Okay, I'm look. I think that's perfect for today.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
Oh can we hug?
Speaker 2 (10:19):
You know what? How about we just head over to
the common womb.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Nobody likes me here.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
That's not true. Everyone's just nervous.
Speaker 10 (10:26):
I'm not.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
This is the most beautiful place in the world, and
so are you.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Okay, Hey, you know, isn't it geckle time?
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Gecko time?
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Yeah, it's it's time for you to find your little
big eyed geckle while I take a break.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
Okay, by mister Kirk Geckle.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Jesus fucking Christ, Hi, Kirk, Kalina. Our session doesn't start
for another half an hour.
Speaker 11 (10:57):
I know, I just wanted to say, Hi, Well, hi,
come on in. Okay, do you mind if I sit
next to you? I think I'd feel much more vulnerable
that way. Sure, okay, I've been thinking about what you said,
(11:20):
that we're all guilty until proven rich facts. But isn't
identity still important? Identifying as trance was the first time
in my life I ever felt like I was a
part of something.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Don't you feel that way? Yeah? I mean that's community
and it's awesome, But slicing ourselves up into micro identities
divides us. We got shit to do as a community, healthcare, abortion,
the climate, fascism. I mean, look at the girls of Iran,
they're making it happen.
Speaker 11 (11:54):
Yes, they're amazing women, life, freedom exactly.
Speaker 5 (11:58):
You know.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
I heard their quoting their hero, this Kurdish anarchist who
said we have to.
Speaker 5 (12:03):
Kill the mail within.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Yes, and that's what I did.
Speaker 5 (12:07):
And you did too.
Speaker 11 (12:08):
You killed the mail within you and built a better one.
Most guys are on iPhone too, but you're a fifteen
pro max and I fucking love you.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Oh, Kirk, You've changed me.
Speaker 11 (12:22):
Don't deny it. I don't want to be a victim anymore.
I want to be a doula. I want to midwife
a new society, and I want.
Speaker 5 (12:31):
To do it with you.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Wow. I don't know what to say. Just kiss me, baby.
I don't think we're allowed.
Speaker 11 (12:39):
To Fine, Fine, I respect your lack of consent, Kirk. No,
you're obviously more interested in someone who's so damaged that
you can control them, like Kelly.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Don't go.
Speaker 11 (12:52):
I good luck with that.
Speaker 12 (13:00):
Mean you can't get the fucking yacht, Jonas. I lent
it to old agg Kalugan. He's in Miami.
Speaker 13 (13:05):
It's been confiscated by the government. Sir. Kalugan is a
friend of Putin.
Speaker 10 (13:09):
We're all friends of Putin.
Speaker 15 (13:10):
I'm looking into chartering another yacht, Sir, I just wait
the people here.
Speaker 6 (13:15):
Hold bye, Carl, Hey, buppy, too long, Carl, what are
you hiding down the back of those pants?
Speaker 10 (13:23):
Hey? What the fuck you just grabbed.
Speaker 6 (13:26):
My ask juicy rump bitch like a baked pumpkin, right, Carmen, deep.
Speaker 5 (13:33):
Front and soft inside my turn.
Speaker 10 (13:35):
Wow, those are some low hangars, Carl, stay away from me.
Speaker 8 (13:40):
Stack out to cocker jew balls, having aguila and having
a felo.
Speaker 9 (13:47):
Oh god bye, loser.
Speaker 10 (13:54):
Jesus fucking sir, what I have some news.
Speaker 13 (13:59):
Serena Ca just has brought charges of sexual assault again.
Speaker 10 (14:02):
What new?
Speaker 13 (14:03):
Well? She says she has video proof of what.
Speaker 15 (14:06):
She shot a video on her brooch cam of you
offering her the lead role in Carnabie Queen in return
for her watching you fuck a breakfast sandwich.
Speaker 13 (14:13):
It looked like a McMuffin.
Speaker 12 (14:14):
I get the picture, and she got the picture too.
I got her a fucking consensual Oscar nom For Christ's sake.
Speaker 13 (14:21):
There's a worn out for your arrest.
Speaker 10 (14:22):
Fuck. Maybe I should just tide out here, sir.
Speaker 15 (14:25):
Maybe you could live on a yacht forever like that
third and that Tennessee Williams play that has no feet.
Speaker 13 (14:31):
It just flies until it dies.
Speaker 10 (14:33):
Shut up, patch me through to my lawyer.
Speaker 13 (14:36):
Your lawyers quit after they saw Serena's video.
Speaker 15 (14:39):
I mean, you did spooge into that McMuffin and shout
eat this or I'll destroy your career.
Speaker 10 (14:45):
But she never even ate it.
Speaker 13 (14:47):
Yes, but you did destroy her career.
Speaker 10 (14:50):
That was later. Whose side are you on?
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Yours?
Speaker 13 (14:52):
Sir? I would never leave you. I would have eaten
the McMuffin.
Speaker 10 (14:56):
Hi, Carl Claude, Where's Karen?
Speaker 9 (15:00):
I wish I had a doll of you, because then
I would fuck it and wherever you were you would
feel it in your ass forever.
Speaker 10 (15:10):
Are you kidding me?
Speaker 9 (15:11):
Nice man boobs, I want to suck on them.
Speaker 10 (15:13):
I'll do it for you. Watch me suck my own
tick m tasty, tasty happy now you No, that's right,
walk away, voodoo child. Fucker. Hey, Kyoko and Kale, come
on back and fiss me.
Speaker 12 (15:28):
Why don't you You shove your right hand in, you
take your right hand out, You ran your right hand in, and.
Speaker 10 (15:34):
You shake it all about. Let's walk and you turn
yourself around.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Go ahead, everybody fuck me.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
Wow, Kai, I don't think your new therapy is working.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Go on, write me, No, it's not.
Speaker 6 (15:51):
I wonder if you feel differently about my requests for
an ayahuasca ceremony. The common one would be a perfect
space for it. All right, Citizens of Renewal, you have
(16:13):
all fasted.
Speaker 7 (16:14):
And purified yourself for twelve hours.
Speaker 6 (16:17):
You have written down your intentions for the ceremony on
a scrap of paper. Glance at it during the ritual
when you feel the needs. If it doesn't feel right
for you, you're welcome to return home on the next boat.
Speaker 11 (16:32):
Yes, Kalina, I'm concerned that we might be appropriating South
American religious practices.
Speaker 6 (16:37):
Here to hear you and I will be singing my
own fully copyrighted songs throughout the ceremony. When you drink
of the sacrament, it may present you with images from
your past, present, or future, Like to Christmas Carol.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
I want to be the one with the cret.
Speaker 6 (16:53):
You may feel that you are dying, but you are not.
You are simply meeting you death.
Speaker 7 (17:00):
Say hi to your death. Hug it, kiss your death
on the mouth. Okay, I'll begin hug it, kiss it,
fuck it.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
Here's my intention, Claude, to find out how I can
be more of service.
Speaker 7 (17:23):
What's yours?
Speaker 9 (17:24):
It's strange that Kai required everyone to participate.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
They didn't want to discriminate.
Speaker 9 (17:29):
Well, I'm curious what this will do to.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
The power dynamics to me? Me too.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
I'd like to secretly hold your hand while vomiting.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
Will we really need to vomit?
Speaker 4 (17:41):
Guy said it some metaphoric as well as a literal perching.
Speaker 9 (17:44):
I don't want to you like.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
Your secrets, don't you come on, let's get in line
to drink.
Speaker 16 (17:51):
Okay, I see an enemy or see anemony, I see
an enemy.
Speaker 5 (18:08):
Or hey, guys, what are you listening to these days?
Speaker 11 (18:13):
Kirk told me to listen to myself, but I can't
hear anything.
Speaker 10 (18:16):
I've been to Paradise, but I've never been. I can't
feel my leg.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
God, I apologize, Am.
Speaker 10 (18:21):
I saying this out loud? I can't feel my leg
I apologize.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
For everything I stand for.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
Therapy is a white privilege, escapism is a white privilege.
Speaker 9 (18:29):
Does that mean I can't go to Disney World wasting
away again?
Speaker 13 (18:33):
And Margarita Veille?
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Lord, what do you mean?
Speaker 6 (18:35):
I'm a black.
Speaker 9 (18:36):
Man and I like Jimmy buff parroeads rulesmone.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Are you okay, Kirk? Oh God, I'm being bored.
Speaker 11 (18:49):
I'm being born honey, let me help is duly, I'm bored.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
But I'm drowning. I'm drowning, admitting air. I'll help you.
Speaker 13 (18:59):
I'm your jeweler.
Speaker 5 (19:00):
This is not my world. This is not my world.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
It's our world.
Speaker 5 (19:05):
It's your world.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
It's our world.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Okay, Yes it is, Yes, it is it is.
Speaker 13 (19:12):
You know other countries have the social safety net.
Speaker 5 (19:16):
America has women.
Speaker 10 (19:17):
So that's Venezuela. We take care of her own.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
Oh, Claude, I'm trapped in ectopia, fallopian Dystophian, neither there
nor here. No one can Karen, Oh God, I see them,
both of them, my children, the spirits, and my boys.
Speaker 6 (19:32):
You have children.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
I've had hundreds, Karen. They're gone, now gone. Claude, it
wasn't my fault.
Speaker 10 (19:39):
Love me, love me, don't.
Speaker 9 (19:40):
Tell me who to love.
Speaker 10 (19:41):
You're not my mom, Claude.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
What if I said, let me hold.
Speaker 10 (19:44):
You, touch me?
Speaker 4 (19:46):
See Flora Ivana, I see my Iquana.
Speaker 10 (19:51):
I see a fish, Give a man a fish? Or
teaching to fish? Or should I just go ahead and
make a fucking fish?
Speaker 6 (19:57):
Would like to be an edged?
Speaker 4 (19:59):
Low?
Speaker 10 (20:00):
Am I a god who made a fish?
Speaker 9 (20:02):
I see you, I see spirit lad Yes, I see
the Russian who refused to fire the nuke during the
Cuban missile crisis.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
He was a hero, he.
Speaker 10 (20:12):
Was a pussy.
Speaker 9 (20:14):
They named a toilet after him and the Kremlin.
Speaker 13 (20:16):
Oh, it's all so futile.
Speaker 10 (20:19):
Why do we go to help that can't help.
Speaker 9 (20:22):
I can only rescue, Oh, Karen, it's hard to be
a man.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
At my age.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
I will never experience real power over another man for
the rest of my life.
Speaker 11 (20:31):
I don't think people should have big fake tits around
a lot of poor people.
Speaker 10 (20:37):
It's mean, Karen.
Speaker 9 (20:41):
My looks have declined to the point that only women
will sleep with me.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
Now, I'm sorry.
Speaker 9 (20:47):
Once I saw a dick and it rose like dough,
and I sucked it. You did what I sucked it?
Speaker 10 (20:57):
Was it circumcised? Jesus is circum size.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Foreskin rose from the dead shot up into the sky
and became a ring of Saturn.
Speaker 10 (21:07):
Oh hell, the four stan of Sada. I wish I
hadn't been circumcised. Do boys feel more when they come
on there?
Speaker 4 (21:17):
I'm alone, and when I die, my cat will eat me.
A dog will wait a day, but not a cat.
Speaker 10 (21:23):
When I was little, I dropped cats from my.
Speaker 12 (21:26):
Roof Jesus, Carl, No, No, they hacked parachutes made of
plastic bags.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Can we just meet with our pets and create a
kind of species.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
I want a gecko baby, Claude, what are you writing?
Speaker 9 (21:38):
My intention?
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Burn it all down? What does that mean? Claude?
Speaker 12 (21:43):
Hey, I prayed for my father to commit suicide, and
he did, and that's when my life began.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
This is the first day of the rest of my life.
Speaker 10 (21:51):
I'm gonna be here.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Now, be here.
Speaker 10 (21:54):
Now, who's here now with I'm here now, I'm here now,
I am so here, not me.
Speaker 14 (22:01):
I can't help but skip ahead, and my whole generation
does nothing but skip ahead.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
And I want to skip ahead. But I'm afraid I'll
be forgotten.
Speaker 13 (22:10):
I'm afraid to be No.
Speaker 8 (22:11):
I'm afraid to be I'm also afraid to be forgot.
I'm afraid forgot. I'm afraid to be for good. I
can't do.
Speaker 5 (22:43):
Is everyone all right?
Speaker 11 (22:45):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (22:46):
I'm not hallucinating anymore?
Speaker 2 (22:48):
Yeahs, it's sobered us.
Speaker 5 (22:51):
What is that sound?
Speaker 3 (22:52):
Clatter? Are you all right?
Speaker 10 (22:54):
No?
Speaker 6 (22:55):
Okay, let's all just breathe. It will take time to
integrate the sence.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Where's Kellie?
Speaker 6 (23:03):
I think she ran out?
Speaker 10 (23:05):
What the fuck?
Speaker 5 (23:06):
Kelly?
Speaker 8 (23:09):
Where is she?
Speaker 11 (23:10):
Checked it toy like Callie.
Speaker 14 (23:11):
They took her, I don't know, but they took her
like they took Chris Kelly's Gone.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Cancelation Island A Topic Studios and iHeart Podcasts production, written
by John Cameron Mitchell and Michael Kevadilla's directed by John
Cameron Mitchell, produced by Christy Gressman, starring Holly Hunter as Karen,
Josh Pice as Carl, Aaron Marky as kai Ka Todd
Freeman as Claude Murphy, Taylor Smith as Collina, just As
(23:57):
Singleton as Kirk, Mary as Chris, Joe Firestone as Callie,
Mia Pack as Kyoko, Joseph Keckler Askale, Maria Mercedes Galupo
as Carmen, Micah Stock as Casper, Dalmis Garcia as Keki,
Michael Cavidias as Jonas, and Josh Nate Davila as Peppo.
(24:19):
Veronica Guadalupe as Pepa. Audio producer Vincent Cascion. Executive producers
Michael Cavedias, John Cameron Mitchell and for iHeart Podcasts Noel
Brown and Nikki y Ettore composer Lucas Carey. Original song
Wait written by Brett Every and John Cameron Mitchell. Additional
(24:40):
music by Vincent Cascion. Executive in charge of production Jenny Medusa.
Recording produced by Will Stanton, Live production manager Amanda Harris,
recorded live in front of an audience by Will Stanton
and Sam Torres. Live sound by Max Kaufman. Script supervisor
Rachel Cole Reader Stephen Winter, production coordinator Nick Boyd, Assistant
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Artwork Ricardo de signo for Topic Studios podcasts, Christy Gressman,
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Vince Gonzales, Beatrice Chisholm,
Cancelation Island by John Cameron Mitchell and Michael Kevadillas, a
Topic Studios production, recorded in front of a live audience
at the Bellhouse, Brooklyn, New York.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Kai Kirk, come on in, Karen's waiting for you.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
You wanted to see me?
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Any word on Chris who? Chris Katz who disappeared?
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (00:32):
Yes, she's probably just taking a break from us. She'll
be back right.
Speaker 5 (00:35):
Keelka, Sure she will, Okay, Karen.
Speaker 6 (00:38):
A lot of the curators are having problems with their curates.
They all feel that the privileged walk was.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
A step backwards. Very funny.
Speaker 7 (00:51):
I'm listening in ayahuasca ritual.
Speaker 6 (00:55):
What I am a trained shaman and I've brought enough
of the sacrament for everyone.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
I don't want to force religion or drugs on.
Speaker 6 (01:02):
Is a plant medicine, Karen. We need to reset everyone,
bring them back to their default of honesty.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
You're a shaman. Where's you study?
Speaker 5 (01:12):
I'm self trained?
Speaker 2 (01:14):
How did you do that?
Speaker 6 (01:15):
I've led a number of ceremonies on zoom, So please
restrain your man's scolding.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
If you restrain your them explaining.
Speaker 6 (01:22):
Now, Karen, I have found the medicine to be very
useful in my do less workshops. The mother ayahuasca reminds
people that they're part of a whole and that they.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Will die Jesus. You know, I think it's too soon
for this. I'm making progress with Cali.
Speaker 6 (01:38):
Oh yeah, well, good luck with Conan the librarian or
should I say deep fake Debbie?
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Who? Karen? I really think curators should have authority over
their curites treatment.
Speaker 5 (01:50):
So, Karen, what do you think.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
I haven't experienced ayahuasca myself, but the idea of it
dovetails with my theories of pen psychists.
Speaker 6 (01:57):
Yes, you can see the spirits that reside in everything.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
I'm inclined to sanction a session fully voluntary.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Of course.
Speaker 5 (02:04):
No, it can't be.
Speaker 6 (02:05):
We all need to do it. He needs to be leveled.
He they all need to be leveled. Plus they have
all signed liability waivers.
Speaker 8 (02:14):
Me.
Speaker 5 (02:14):
You know, I'm not so sure.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
That they all signed the waivers.
Speaker 5 (02:19):
Oh yeah, they have.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
I think I really need more time with my folks.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
Let's put a pin in this idea and circle back
to it later if we need it.
Speaker 6 (02:27):
Great, Karen, you did guarantee the curator's latitude.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
Yes, but not longitude. What does that mean I'm not sure,
but I've.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Made my decision. Where's Claude.
Speaker 9 (02:37):
I'm right here.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
You more, Thank you curators. Claude and I need to
confer on this.
Speaker 5 (02:45):
What does he have to do with therapy?
Speaker 4 (02:46):
I will have you know that Claude has experienced in
matters of the spirit.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
He was a lay minister. Ko can you see them all?
Speaker 5 (02:53):
Sure thing?
Speaker 9 (02:57):
Claude, what do you think about the ivasca? I have
no opinion.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Yes you do.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
You always have an opinion. I see it in your eyes.
I can sense disdain. I see a person poking around
in there that I want to get to know better.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Karen.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
I value your stoicism, but I would love to ask
your advice on an array of topics. Okay, for example,
what do you even think of my office? I've just
finished decorating.
Speaker 10 (03:28):
What are those things all over the walls?
Speaker 4 (03:30):
Dream catchers? So many dreamcatchers, so few dreams. The success
of this project is perhaps my last dream. Claud it's
lonely at the top. Oh, yes, you've been there. I
believe it, But you've been laid low. You're a king
without a kingdom. It's tantalizing, Karen.
Speaker 9 (03:52):
Your foot seems to be resting on mine.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Is I'm sorry?
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Is it okay?
Speaker 3 (03:58):
There?
Speaker 7 (04:01):
Yes, Claude, what.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Have you lost?
Speaker 5 (04:07):
Oh?
Speaker 9 (04:08):
You don't want to hear it?
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Oh but I do.
Speaker 7 (04:10):
There's nothing more arousing than trauma sharing.
Speaker 9 (04:14):
Maybe later, maybe later, But meanwhile, yes, I would like
to help you. I have some ideas on how this
project can be improved. Oh you're being too nice.
Speaker 11 (04:25):
What do you mean?
Speaker 9 (04:26):
I'm still thinking it all through.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Thank you, Claude.
Speaker 7 (04:30):
Any input is appreciated.
Speaker 9 (04:33):
I'd like to give you more than my input.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
God, what do you mean?
Speaker 5 (04:40):
Oh?
Speaker 7 (04:42):
Yes, I never guessed all my paper clips.
Speaker 12 (04:49):
What are you doing clearing your desk because that's where
you're going?
Speaker 4 (04:53):
Oh, Claude, Oh God, yes, hammer fighting me flattened you.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
I'm a talker.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
I'm a doer and a talker. I'm a mah sh.
Speaker 9 (05:05):
Karen.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
I'm very attracted to you. Oh good, don't be afraid
to fetishize me.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
I don't mind take me, take me now?
Speaker 10 (05:14):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
What a beautiful day you're chipper today, Carl.
Speaker 10 (05:27):
The end of renewal is nigh.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
Oh is it?
Speaker 6 (05:32):
I am trying so hard to figure you out, Carl.
I have a feeling you never felt seen.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
As a child.
Speaker 12 (05:38):
Oh, I was seen and heard and smelt. A man
loves to stink of himself, doesn't he? You know another
reason we're toxic, man.
Speaker 5 (05:46):
I don't think toxic is a useful term. I want
to know what happened to you.
Speaker 12 (05:51):
Carl, okay Kai, you're in the trauma racket as a businessman.
I'm impressed you analyzed the market and found that is trending.
Speaker 10 (06:02):
You disagreed with me.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
I've traumatized and then the clown up there.
Speaker 10 (06:09):
It just makes me feel unsafe. You can find trauma everywhere.
Speaker 12 (06:14):
That's called trauma creep, and it's also called money. But
I prefer the word obstacle to trauma. We either negotiate
obstacles or we don't. And what you see as abuse,
I see as a deal. My female accusers and I
made such a deal. I would help them in their
careers if they would give me the pleasure I required,
(06:36):
or at least witness my pursuit of said pleasure.
Speaker 6 (06:40):
Witness it sinking into the ashes of your mother.
Speaker 10 (06:43):
Yeah, it's kind of poetic. Huh.
Speaker 5 (06:46):
Okay, here's the new deal.
Speaker 6 (06:48):
I've decided to prescribe you with therapeutic regimen of sexual harassment.
Everyone on this island will have permission to exploit you
in any way they please.
Speaker 10 (06:56):
Yeah, that's not really a deal.
Speaker 5 (06:58):
You're gonna feel what they felt.
Speaker 10 (07:00):
Rope for a grope?
Speaker 12 (07:01):
Wow, do less, hurt less my ass. Your as power
hungry as me. Consciously celibate. Nice name for a deranged
in cell.
Speaker 10 (07:10):
I am a vaal cell.
Speaker 6 (07:11):
And the prescription commences today and will last for one week.
Speaker 5 (07:16):
You are dismissed, Cally.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
So how are you feeling today?
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Great?
Speaker 4 (07:30):
I just finished my first anti racism spin class.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Okay, what did you learn?
Speaker 4 (07:36):
That? No matter how fast we go, we'll never get anywhere?
After that, we played bad touch football. Wow, there aren't
very many places you can touch someone safely. And then
we did the blind trust game where a person guides
you around blindfolded at and I won.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
I don't think anybody wins that game.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
They all got mad at me because I know how
to run with a blindfold. Then Keel said we were
appropriating blindness, and they canceled the game. Then no one
would talk to me. It made me wonder, did you
tell Careen about you know what I did?
Speaker 2 (08:08):
No? I didn't. I don't want to interrupt our progress.
Now listen, Kelly, We're going to try some new games today.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Great?
Speaker 2 (08:15):
What some role play?
Speaker 13 (08:17):
Oh? Like?
Speaker 4 (08:17):
Can you stay? Asking to do with the dog?
Speaker 14 (08:19):
What?
Speaker 5 (08:21):
No?
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Okay, I'm going to play different people in your life
and you're going to ask me for the things you want.
Oh gosh, it's gonna be fun. Now. How about I
start by being your babysitter?
Speaker 4 (08:40):
Oh good, I had a cool babysitter named Kyla.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Great, I'm Kyla, weird but cool. I'll start, Hey, Cally,
I'm your new babysitter Kyla.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
Oh can you smoke? Kyla smoked all the time.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Sure, I'll just smoke this pin. What do you want
to do today? CALLI? I don't know what games do
you want to play? Little CALLI?
Speaker 7 (09:02):
Have you ever had a boyfriend?
Speaker 5 (09:03):
Kirk?
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Yes? I have and a girlfriend? Yes? And I neither friend.
Speaker 7 (09:08):
Too weird but cool?
Speaker 4 (09:11):
Okay, Hey, Kylo, you said if I was a good girl,
you'd let me watch you and your boyfriend make out
a mom in dad's bed if I didn't tell anybody.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Well, he's not here today. Anything else you want to do?
Speaker 4 (09:23):
Well, you're a babysitter. Don't you want to sit on me?
It's called princess and the pee. You're the princess and
I'm the pee. Sit on me and see if you
notice me.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
I don't know if I sit on me, Kirk, I
want you to sit on Kelly. I really don't know.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
I'm sorry. That was rude.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
No, it's good you said what you wanted, Kirk. Yes, Kelly.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
Sometimes I forget that I can be noticed.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
I noticed, she Kelly. I'm noticing you right now.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
Thanks. Not too much locallymore like Kyler did and Mom
and everybody else.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
But I can watch you.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Okay, I'm look. I think that's perfect for today.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
Oh can we hug?
Speaker 2 (10:19):
You know what? How about we just head over to
the common womb.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Nobody likes me here.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
That's not true. Everyone's just nervous.
Speaker 10 (10:26):
I'm not.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
This is the most beautiful place in the world, and
so are you.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Okay, Hey, you know, isn't it geckle time?
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Gecko time?
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Yeah, it's it's time for you to find your little
big eyed geckle while I take a break.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
Okay, by mister Kirk Geckle.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Jesus fucking Christ, Hi, Kirk, Kalina. Our session doesn't start
for another half an hour.
Speaker 11 (10:57):
I know, I just wanted to say, Hi, Well, hi,
come on in. Okay, do you mind if I sit
next to you? I think I'd feel much more vulnerable
that way. Sure, okay, I've been thinking about what you said,
(11:20):
that we're all guilty until proven rich facts. But isn't
identity still important? Identifying as trance was the first time
in my life I ever felt like I was a
part of something.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Don't you feel that way? Yeah? I mean that's community
and it's awesome, But slicing ourselves up into micro identities
divides us. We got shit to do as a community, healthcare, abortion,
the climate, fascism. I mean, look at the girls of Iran,
they're making it happen.
Speaker 11 (11:54):
Yes, they're amazing women, life, freedom exactly.
Speaker 5 (11:58):
You know.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
I heard their quoting their hero, this Kurdish anarchist who
said we have to.
Speaker 5 (12:03):
Kill the mail within.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Yes, and that's what I did.
Speaker 5 (12:07):
And you did too.
Speaker 11 (12:08):
You killed the mail within you and built a better one.
Most guys are on iPhone too, but you're a fifteen
pro max and I fucking love you.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Oh, Kirk, You've changed me.
Speaker 11 (12:22):
Don't deny it. I don't want to be a victim anymore.
I want to be a doula. I want to midwife
a new society, and I want.
Speaker 5 (12:31):
To do it with you.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Wow. I don't know what to say. Just kiss me, baby.
I don't think we're allowed.
Speaker 11 (12:39):
To Fine, Fine, I respect your lack of consent, Kirk. No,
you're obviously more interested in someone who's so damaged that
you can control them, like Kelly.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Don't go.
Speaker 11 (12:52):
I good luck with that.
Speaker 12 (13:00):
Mean you can't get the fucking yacht, Jonas. I lent
it to old agg Kalugan. He's in Miami.
Speaker 13 (13:05):
It's been confiscated by the government. Sir. Kalugan is a
friend of Putin.
Speaker 10 (13:09):
We're all friends of Putin.
Speaker 15 (13:10):
I'm looking into chartering another yacht, Sir, I just wait
the people here.
Speaker 6 (13:15):
Hold bye, Carl, Hey, buppy, too long, Carl, what are
you hiding down the back of those pants?
Speaker 10 (13:23):
Hey? What the fuck you just grabbed.
Speaker 6 (13:26):
My ask juicy rump bitch like a baked pumpkin, right, Carmen, deep.
Speaker 5 (13:33):
Front and soft inside my turn.
Speaker 10 (13:35):
Wow, those are some low hangars, Carl, stay away from me.
Speaker 8 (13:40):
Stack out to cocker jew balls, having aguila and having
a felo.
Speaker 9 (13:47):
Oh god bye, loser.
Speaker 10 (13:54):
Jesus fucking sir, what I have some news.
Speaker 13 (13:59):
Serena Ca just has brought charges of sexual assault again.
Speaker 10 (14:02):
What new?
Speaker 13 (14:03):
Well? She says she has video proof of what.
Speaker 15 (14:06):
She shot a video on her brooch cam of you
offering her the lead role in Carnabie Queen in return
for her watching you fuck a breakfast sandwich.
Speaker 13 (14:13):
It looked like a McMuffin.
Speaker 12 (14:14):
I get the picture, and she got the picture too.
I got her a fucking consensual Oscar nom For Christ's sake.
Speaker 13 (14:21):
There's a worn out for your arrest.
Speaker 10 (14:22):
Fuck. Maybe I should just tide out here, sir.
Speaker 15 (14:25):
Maybe you could live on a yacht forever like that
third and that Tennessee Williams play that has no feet.
Speaker 13 (14:31):
It just flies until it dies.
Speaker 10 (14:33):
Shut up, patch me through to my lawyer.
Speaker 13 (14:36):
Your lawyers quit after they saw Serena's video.
Speaker 15 (14:39):
I mean, you did spooge into that McMuffin and shout
eat this or I'll destroy your career.
Speaker 10 (14:45):
But she never even ate it.
Speaker 13 (14:47):
Yes, but you did destroy her career.
Speaker 10 (14:50):
That was later. Whose side are you on?
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Yours?
Speaker 13 (14:52):
Sir? I would never leave you. I would have eaten
the McMuffin.
Speaker 10 (14:56):
Hi, Carl Claude, Where's Karen?
Speaker 9 (15:00):
I wish I had a doll of you, because then
I would fuck it and wherever you were you would
feel it in your ass forever.
Speaker 10 (15:10):
Are you kidding me?
Speaker 9 (15:11):
Nice man boobs, I want to suck on them.
Speaker 10 (15:13):
I'll do it for you. Watch me suck my own
tick m tasty, tasty happy now you No, that's right,
walk away, voodoo child. Fucker. Hey, Kyoko and Kale, come
on back and fiss me.
Speaker 12 (15:28):
Why don't you You shove your right hand in, you
take your right hand out, You ran your right hand in, and.
Speaker 10 (15:34):
You shake it all about. Let's walk and you turn
yourself around.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Go ahead, everybody fuck me.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
Wow, Kai, I don't think your new therapy is working.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Go on, write me, No, it's not.
Speaker 6 (15:51):
I wonder if you feel differently about my requests for
an ayahuasca ceremony. The common one would be a perfect
space for it. All right, Citizens of Renewal, you have
(16:13):
all fasted.
Speaker 7 (16:14):
And purified yourself for twelve hours.
Speaker 6 (16:17):
You have written down your intentions for the ceremony on
a scrap of paper. Glance at it during the ritual
when you feel the needs. If it doesn't feel right
for you, you're welcome to return home on the next boat.
Speaker 11 (16:32):
Yes, Kalina, I'm concerned that we might be appropriating South
American religious practices.
Speaker 6 (16:37):
Here to hear you and I will be singing my
own fully copyrighted songs throughout the ceremony. When you drink
of the sacrament, it may present you with images from
your past, present, or future, Like to Christmas Carol.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
I want to be the one with the cret.
Speaker 6 (16:53):
You may feel that you are dying, but you are not.
You are simply meeting you death.
Speaker 7 (17:00):
Say hi to your death. Hug it, kiss your death
on the mouth. Okay, I'll begin hug it, kiss it,
fuck it.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
Here's my intention, Claude, to find out how I can
be more of service.
Speaker 7 (17:23):
What's yours?
Speaker 9 (17:24):
It's strange that Kai required everyone to participate.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
They didn't want to discriminate.
Speaker 9 (17:29):
Well, I'm curious what this will do to.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
The power dynamics to me? Me too.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
I'd like to secretly hold your hand while vomiting.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
Will we really need to vomit?
Speaker 4 (17:41):
Guy said it some metaphoric as well as a literal perching.
Speaker 9 (17:44):
I don't want to you like.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
Your secrets, don't you come on, let's get in line
to drink.
Speaker 16 (17:51):
Okay, I see an enemy or see anemony, I see
an enemy.
Speaker 5 (18:08):
Or hey, guys, what are you listening to these days?
Speaker 11 (18:13):
Kirk told me to listen to myself, but I can't
hear anything.
Speaker 10 (18:16):
I've been to Paradise, but I've never been. I can't
feel my leg.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
God, I apologize, Am.
Speaker 10 (18:21):
I saying this out loud? I can't feel my leg
I apologize.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
For everything I stand for.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
Therapy is a white privilege, escapism is a white privilege.
Speaker 9 (18:29):
Does that mean I can't go to Disney World wasting
away again?
Speaker 13 (18:33):
And Margarita Veille?
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Lord, what do you mean?
Speaker 6 (18:35):
I'm a black.
Speaker 9 (18:36):
Man and I like Jimmy buff parroeads rulesmone.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Are you okay, Kirk? Oh God, I'm being bored.
Speaker 11 (18:49):
I'm being born honey, let me help is duly, I'm bored.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
But I'm drowning. I'm drowning, admitting air. I'll help you.
Speaker 13 (18:59):
I'm your jeweler.
Speaker 5 (19:00):
This is not my world. This is not my world.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
It's our world.
Speaker 5 (19:05):
It's your world.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
It's our world.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Okay, Yes it is, Yes, it is it is.
Speaker 13 (19:12):
You know other countries have the social safety net.
Speaker 5 (19:16):
America has women.
Speaker 10 (19:17):
So that's Venezuela. We take care of her own.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
Oh, Claude, I'm trapped in ectopia, fallopian Dystophian, neither there
nor here. No one can Karen, Oh God, I see them,
both of them, my children, the spirits, and my boys.
Speaker 6 (19:32):
You have children.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
I've had hundreds, Karen. They're gone, now gone. Claude, it
wasn't my fault.
Speaker 10 (19:39):
Love me, love me, don't.
Speaker 9 (19:40):
Tell me who to love.
Speaker 10 (19:41):
You're not my mom, Claude.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
What if I said, let me hold.
Speaker 10 (19:44):
You, touch me?
Speaker 4 (19:46):
See Flora Ivana, I see my Iquana.
Speaker 10 (19:51):
I see a fish, Give a man a fish? Or
teaching to fish? Or should I just go ahead and
make a fucking fish?
Speaker 6 (19:57):
Would like to be an edged?
Speaker 4 (19:59):
Low?
Speaker 10 (20:00):
Am I a god who made a fish?
Speaker 9 (20:02):
I see you, I see spirit lad Yes, I see
the Russian who refused to fire the nuke during the
Cuban missile crisis.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
He was a hero, he.
Speaker 10 (20:12):
Was a pussy.
Speaker 9 (20:14):
They named a toilet after him and the Kremlin.
Speaker 13 (20:16):
Oh, it's all so futile.
Speaker 10 (20:19):
Why do we go to help that can't help.
Speaker 9 (20:22):
I can only rescue, Oh, Karen, it's hard to be
a man.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
At my age.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
I will never experience real power over another man for
the rest of my life.
Speaker 11 (20:31):
I don't think people should have big fake tits around
a lot of poor people.
Speaker 10 (20:37):
It's mean, Karen.
Speaker 9 (20:41):
My looks have declined to the point that only women
will sleep with me.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
Now, I'm sorry.
Speaker 9 (20:47):
Once I saw a dick and it rose like dough,
and I sucked it. You did what I sucked it?
Speaker 10 (20:57):
Was it circumcised? Jesus is circum size.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Foreskin rose from the dead shot up into the sky
and became a ring of Saturn.
Speaker 10 (21:07):
Oh hell, the four stan of Sada. I wish I
hadn't been circumcised. Do boys feel more when they come
on there?
Speaker 4 (21:17):
I'm alone, and when I die, my cat will eat me.
A dog will wait a day, but not a cat.
Speaker 10 (21:23):
When I was little, I dropped cats from my.
Speaker 12 (21:26):
Roof Jesus, Carl, No, No, they hacked parachutes made of
plastic bags.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Can we just meet with our pets and create a
kind of species.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
I want a gecko baby, Claude, what are you writing?
Speaker 9 (21:38):
My intention?
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Burn it all down? What does that mean? Claude?
Speaker 12 (21:43):
Hey, I prayed for my father to commit suicide, and
he did, and that's when my life began.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
This is the first day of the rest of my life.
Speaker 10 (21:51):
I'm gonna be here.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Now, be here.
Speaker 10 (21:54):
Now, who's here now with I'm here now, I'm here now,
I am so here, not me.
Speaker 14 (22:01):
I can't help but skip ahead, and my whole generation
does nothing but skip ahead.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
And I want to skip ahead. But I'm afraid I'll
be forgotten.
Speaker 13 (22:10):
I'm afraid to be No.
Speaker 8 (22:11):
I'm afraid to be I'm also afraid to be forgot.
I'm afraid forgot. I'm afraid to be for good. I
can't do.
Speaker 5 (22:43):
Is everyone all right?
Speaker 11 (22:45):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (22:46):
I'm not hallucinating anymore?
Speaker 2 (22:48):
Yeahs, it's sobered us.
Speaker 5 (22:51):
What is that sound?
Speaker 3 (22:52):
Clatter? Are you all right?
Speaker 10 (22:54):
No?
Speaker 6 (22:55):
Okay, let's all just breathe. It will take time to
integrate the sence.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Where's Kellie?
Speaker 6 (23:03):
I think she ran out?
Speaker 10 (23:05):
What the fuck?
Speaker 5 (23:06):
Kelly?
Speaker 8 (23:09):
Where is she?
Speaker 11 (23:10):
Checked it toy like Callie.
Speaker 14 (23:11):
They took her, I don't know, but they took her
like they took Chris Kelly's Gone.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Cancelation Island A Topic Studios and iHeart Podcasts production, written
by John Cameron Mitchell and Michael Kevadilla's directed by John
Cameron Mitchell, produced by Christy Gressman, starring Holly Hunter as Karen,
Josh Pice as Carl, Aaron Marky as kai Ka Todd
Freeman as Claude Murphy, Taylor Smith as Collina, just As
(23:57):
Singleton as Kirk, Mary as Chris, Joe Firestone as Callie,
Mia Pack as Kyoko, Joseph Keckler Askale, Maria Mercedes Galupo
as Carmen, Micah Stock as Casper, Dalmis Garcia as Keki,
Michael Cavidias as Jonas, and Josh Nate Davila as Peppo.
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Veronica Guadalupe as Pepa. Audio producer Vincent Cascion. Executive producers
Michael Cavedias, John Cameron Mitchell and for iHeart Podcasts Noel
Brown and Nikki y Ettore composer Lucas Carey. Original song
Wait written by Brett Every and John Cameron Mitchell. Additional
(24:40):
music by Vincent Cascion. Executive in charge of production Jenny Medusa.
Recording produced by Will Stanton, Live production manager Amanda Harris,
recorded live in front of an audience by Will Stanton
and Sam Torres. Live sound by Max Kaufman. Script supervisor
Rachel Cole Reader Stephen Winter, production coordinator Nick Boyd, Assistant
(25:03):
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Artwork Ricardo de signo for Topic Studios podcasts, Christy Gressman,
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