February 16, 2025 • 28 mins
It’s time for the first private sessions at RENEWAL. Will Kalina get with her hot therapist, Kirk? Will Karl learn what agender means? Will Kallie embalm a gecko? And where, exactly, is Kris?
Cancellation Island stars Holly Hunter as Karen and is written by John Cameron Mitchell and Michael Cavadias, directed by John Cameron Mitchell, and produced by Christy Gressman. A Topic Studios and iHeart Podcasts production.
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Cancelation Island by John Cameron Mitchell and Michael Cavadillas, a
Topic Studios production, recorded in front of a live audience
at the Bellhouse, Brooklyn, New York.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Good morning, citizens of Renewal. It's an exciting day. Each
curate gets their first private session with their assigned curator.
I wish I could sit on all of them, but
I've got a lot to do today. Curators enjoy getting
to know your curates, and curates enjoy getting to know yourselves.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
We can't find her, Kilcu Please.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Sorry, citizens, Let's focus on the present moment rather than
the past events or future fears. See you at lunch.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
Okay, so you can't find her.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
No, Claude has been combing the island, but there are
a lot of capes.
Speaker 5 (00:58):
Keep looking, so, Ki, are you the kind of girl
who hates her pussy? You know what's all this agender
crap about?
Speaker 6 (01:11):
This is extremely uncomfortable for you, Carl, isn't it?
Speaker 7 (01:16):
Yeah? Yeah? This chair is built for a child.
Speaker 8 (01:20):
You are a real laugh riot.
Speaker 6 (01:22):
I'm sure that came in handy when your parents were
screaming at each other and you needed to diffuse the tension.
Oh please, Or maybe the joke's distracted from your repulsive appearance.
Excuse me, shut up what I said? Shut up, or
I will have you sent back.
Speaker 7 (01:40):
You can't.
Speaker 6 (01:41):
I have the contract you signed right here. It says
I own you. I just tell Karen you're being abusive
and you're heading back at a cargo.
Speaker 8 (01:48):
Hold good.
Speaker 6 (01:52):
I'm going to start by telling you a bit about myself.
I believe that deprivation is the key to harmony and havepiness.
I believe we can help the world by wanting less,
doing less, getting less.
Speaker 7 (02:06):
You know that's stupid.
Speaker 5 (02:07):
Try everything, eat everything, fuck everything.
Speaker 7 (02:11):
That's my motto.
Speaker 6 (02:14):
That was Alexander the Great's philosophy too. You know, when
he conquered India, he encountered a group of Yogis sitting
on a cliff, meditating all day, wanting for little and
he was fascinated by their lack of fear. And when
he threatened to kill them, they just shrugged.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
And that is how they won.
Speaker 7 (02:36):
That's the end of the story.
Speaker 6 (02:38):
What happened next Alexander pushed them off the cliff, but
they still won.
Speaker 5 (02:46):
Has anyone expressed interest in optioning you.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Carl, I'm not ip.
Speaker 6 (02:52):
You can't buy my life, right so you cannot adapt,
co opt, or corrupt me. I am the future, and
the future will not be monetized.
Speaker 7 (03:00):
Oh that's stupid.
Speaker 5 (03:01):
Capitalism is all about selling the future to people, and
of course you've been very busy soliciting millions for your
do nothing campaign for a non existent future. Maybe you
should try crowdsourcing your first orgasm, which you clearly have
in it.
Speaker 7 (03:18):
You just hit me.
Speaker 6 (03:19):
That's correct, Carl. There are no laws on cancelation island.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Callina. Please sit. I'm really looking forward to working with.
Speaker 8 (03:33):
You, Thanks Kirk, but I have to be honest with you.
I don't feel comfortable with this. I don't think I
can have you as my curator. Why not, Well, there's
a power imbalance, obviously, What do you mean. I'm a
white bodied person, you're a black bodied person. You're servicing me.
(03:55):
It feels offensive.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
I mean that sounds kind of hot to me. But
who's getting offended?
Speaker 8 (04:01):
Obviously you are?
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Nay it.
Speaker 8 (04:03):
Well, Conversely, as a male bodied person, you're definitely oppressing
me right now, assuming the role of an authority figure
dominating me, telling me what to do.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Well, maybe that evens out.
Speaker 8 (04:15):
Maybe, But if my body is oppressing yours, and your
body is oppressing.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Mind any bodies. I should have booked the conference room.
Speaker 8 (04:24):
That's not funny, Kirk. I think you're being lazy with
your transness.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
So you calling me a lazy black man.
Speaker 8 (04:32):
I apologize. It's just that I believe one of the
responsibilities of trans identity is challenging received notions of patriarchal
gender roles. And I don't think you're holding space for
the nuances of intersectionality here either.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
I don't know what any of that means.
Speaker 8 (04:47):
How can you say that you're just giving aid and
comfort to the Biggotyanda?
Speaker 3 (04:52):
No, I am a black trans man. I know me,
and I think you need to chill. Let's just start over, Okay,
can we just I don't go outside and take a walk.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
Okay, Wow, it's so beautiful here.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Yeah, Karen really picked a great place. So do your
friends know you're here?
Speaker 8 (05:26):
Oh no, No, they've been really busy. They've been trying
to No, they don't. They all hate me. Yeah, you
should hate me too.
Speaker 9 (05:39):
What.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Okay? Is it racist to assume he was coming for
you because he was a black man. Yeah, but I
mean most cases it's not racist versus un racist. Clena
there are shades of gray.
Speaker 8 (05:54):
Are you calling me a racist?
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Nice one? But really most of your story is just
paranoia and frantic virtue signaling.
Speaker 8 (06:05):
You think so well, I sure feel like I'm drowning,
not waving.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
That's Stevie Smith, right, yeah, yeah, No one ever gets
my poetry references.
Speaker 8 (06:18):
She's my favorite poet.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
There is a God in whom I do not believe
yet to this God, my love stretches.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Wow, I feel that way. I grew up in the church.
Speaker 8 (06:33):
Really me too.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
The guilt don't go away, does it?
Speaker 7 (06:37):
No?
Speaker 8 (06:38):
It rots?
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Or maybe it like fermits like Kimchi.
Speaker 8 (06:42):
I love Kimchi. M You really think I don't deserve
what happened to me?
Speaker 3 (06:50):
The biggest problem in America is nobody deserves what's happening
to them, and we're all guilty until proven rich.
Speaker 8 (06:57):
Oh oh, I understand. So I'm evil because I'm rich. Okay,
I get it now, this is fine.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
What happened to lead up to this?
Speaker 8 (07:05):
What do you mean? I mean?
Speaker 3 (07:06):
Like?
Speaker 7 (07:08):
Who are you?
Speaker 3 (07:10):
What are your parents like? And you know when did
you know that you were a woman?
Speaker 8 (07:16):
Oh that's easy. I always knew I was, and my
folks have always been so supportive of my transition that
they fought the fucking governor on it. My mom won
an award from GLAD.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
So, like, how do they feel about your cancelation?
Speaker 8 (07:33):
I mean, I haven't been able to exactly get them
on the phone since they're helping women get out of Afghanistan,
so they.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
My parents don't talk to me either.
Speaker 8 (07:46):
I know I'm a horrible person.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Oh god, what the fuck? Girl?
Speaker 8 (07:51):
I don't see how anyone can be a good person today.
All they can be.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Is right, clean up? You're beautiful?
Speaker 8 (08:00):
Oh? Well, sure are you?
Speaker 3 (08:06):
I know that's worst stuff we have in common.
Speaker 8 (08:13):
Thank you, Kirk.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
I think this is a great start, Lena. You stay
here and enjoy the beach, collect some shells and wet
your feet, but stay close so I can see you. Okay, okay, cool?
Speaker 10 (08:30):
Bye bye Kirk. Oh, Kirk, fuck me?
Speaker 8 (08:40):
I think I love you.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Kelly. Hi, Kirk, how are you?
Speaker 11 (08:53):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (08:54):
I'm fine. I love how quiet it is. I'm excited
to start my new life here.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Well it's only Tim, Kelly.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
H Why it's so beautiful. I went for a walk
down to the beach.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
You know you're supposed to have a companion when you
leave the compound. We still haven't found Chris Well.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
I found a companion on the beach. There was this
little gecko all alone. It was staring at me with
really big eyes, like human baby eyes, and I thought
maybe she was separated from her flock or pot or murder.
I was thinking about embalming her alive in molten Lo
site to make a bolo tie, but she was so cute,
(09:34):
so instead I sang her this song my cousins and
I used to sing whenever we couldn't find each other.
I can't remember the tune or the words, but I
can sing it for you if you like.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
Hi, That's a lovely song.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
But Aunt Kelly would put on the blindfold and then
once we were all lost, she'd have us sing this
song to try to find each other, and then if
we did, she'd put the ball eggs in her out.
It was fun. We have to try to sing with
the ball gags. That sounds awful, CALLI why. It's one
(10:15):
of the happiest memories of my life. Really, our parents
didn't let us go outside a lot.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Kelly. I'd like to talk a little bit about why
you're here and how.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Are you me. I feel that you are sad too. Oh,
I'm sorry for what I think. I'm really stressing you out.
I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
You don't have to apologize.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
I won't. I'll never do it again.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
Wait, I'm nuts.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Okay, Kurt, Yes, were we both just triggered. Callina told
me about triggering and it sounds weird but cool.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Yes, there will be some triggering in here, but everything
will remain confidential. Okay, Now we should really talk about
your cancelation. Well all right, okay, so you don't dispute
the incidents that led to your cancelation.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Yes, no, yes, I'm guilty.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Can you describe how the videos have affected your family?
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Well, our little girl Kim stumbled onto the video where
I cartwheeled down the aisle of a Korean church and
then vomit ups and one time's on the altar. I
feel terrible because people said one Times aren't Korean. I
should have done more research.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Tell me about your husband.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Ken's been so good to me. I don't know who
would have taken me. If he hadn't, I'd probably still
be working in the applicat department at Michael's. I love
putting things on other things, so does Ken. But usually
he's putting things on me.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
So you've been having marital tensions.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
I guess we have the usual problems. You know, the
other women.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
He cheats on you.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
No, he brings other women over that he puts on me. Now,
I hate to say this, but they weren't very attractive.
I'm sorry. Is that looks he is?
Speaker 3 (12:10):
No, Kelly, Oh it's not. Was there consent?
Speaker 2 (12:15):
What?
Speaker 11 (12:16):
Was it?
Speaker 3 (12:17):
Tacit?
Speaker 11 (12:19):
What?
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Okay? It sounds like you do a lot of stuff
for other people. What do you like to do?
Speaker 2 (12:26):
I love embombing reptiles in molten Leoside.
Speaker 7 (12:29):
Great.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
I think we need to find more things that you
like to do, so when you return you have more
of a foundation of self worth.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Oh I have to go back.
Speaker 7 (12:38):
Not just yet.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Cool?
Speaker 3 (12:43):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
I could have sex with you if you want.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
What. No, Charlie, I don't want to.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Oh God, you're mad at me.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
I'm not. I'm not okay now, Kellie, I don't know
if I'm qualified. Yes, I'm just gonna give you a
hug right now. Nothing else needs to come after that, Okay.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Nothing else, just a hug.
Speaker 11 (13:12):
Okay.
Speaker 7 (13:13):
Actually, why don't you start the hug?
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Okay?
Speaker 9 (13:18):
Mm hmmm.
Speaker 10 (13:24):
Hm.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Okay, Kelly. Uh, that's let's allow the hug tender. How
how did that feel good?
Speaker 2 (13:35):
But can you make sounds? I've watched your videos, you're famous.
They're so relaxing. Can you make the sounds like you're
tasting something delicious? Uh? Okay, oh oh yes, yes, yes,
that's it. That's it. That's good.
Speaker 7 (13:58):
Hey, Kirk.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Tired, I am exhausted.
Speaker 6 (14:03):
It's nice they have this curator's lounge out we here
right the fuck?
Speaker 11 (14:09):
Kirk?
Speaker 6 (14:10):
I am really freaked out about Chris's disappearance.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
Yeah, it's so weird, but I think Chris just built
this rehab is a lot.
Speaker 6 (14:20):
Yeah, especially first sessions mine Elizabeth Carl.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
He's a tough nut.
Speaker 6 (14:26):
Yeah, he's definitely trying to bait me. I think he's
trying to get me to explode so you can get
a softer curator.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
Oh like me.
Speaker 6 (14:34):
No, I wasn't insinuating.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
Don't worry. I'm a proud soft boy. I guess I'm
a hard one.
Speaker 11 (14:43):
Hey.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
You know, I've been thinking something about CALLI just doesn't
add up. I mean, she's so sweet.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
But those videos are wild.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Yeah, but you should watch them again. They just they
look sort of unreal. I mean I make a lot
of video content and her seems staged.
Speaker 6 (15:02):
What they were posted by bystanders, weren't they?
Speaker 2 (15:05):
I guess what.
Speaker 6 (15:08):
Do you think about Karen?
Speaker 3 (15:09):
What do you mean?
Speaker 6 (15:11):
Well, she's been a famous wellness guru for what ten
years now? But I couldn't find anything about her before
she was forty. I think she changed her name to Karen. Well, yeah,
I did some research and I'm pretty sure her name
was Joy Granta before and there was some shit that
(15:35):
happened to a Joy granted, but I didn't have time.
Speaker 8 (15:39):
I just wish I could get on Wi Fi.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
Do you have an issue with authority figures?
Speaker 6 (15:45):
I'm not your curate, Kirk, I know, but I probably
do have an issue with authority. It all goes back
to mom.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
What fact doesn't have a narcissistic mom?
Speaker 6 (16:00):
Yeah, thanks for seeing me, Kirk.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
So you're consciously celibate? Yeah, what a fucking waste, Kirky dog.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
So this is the curates lounge. It's so comfy. The
other curatees don't seem to want to talk to me, though.
Is it possible to be canceled by canceled people?
Speaker 8 (16:34):
Everybody loves a packing mortar?
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Yeah? Did I tell you about the big I geto
or maybe it was a baby iguana. It looked so
sad but happy, like Kirk. I think I heard it loud.
Speaker 8 (16:47):
I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I can't hear you. Carl is
making a racket. Oh my god, can you keep it down?
Speaker 7 (16:53):
Are you talking to me?
Speaker 8 (16:54):
Can you go do that somewhere else?
Speaker 7 (16:56):
I'm not doing anything.
Speaker 5 (16:58):
I'm just constipated.
Speaker 7 (17:00):
Relax.
Speaker 8 (17:00):
Don't fucking gaslight me, you disgusting toad.
Speaker 7 (17:04):
Lick me, then lick the psychopathic toad.
Speaker 8 (17:07):
You don't shut up?
Speaker 9 (17:08):
What?
Speaker 7 (17:09):
Whoa what are you gonna do? Lady? If that's what
you really are?
Speaker 8 (17:13):
What did you just call me?
Speaker 3 (17:15):
You? Oh my goodness, fuck off, I'm out of here.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Let's follow him. What come on? Oh my god, what's
he doing?
Speaker 8 (17:30):
What the fuck.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Is he doing into his own hand?
Speaker 11 (17:37):
You?
Speaker 8 (17:38):
I'm gonna throw up. Is that a phone? I can't
believe he smuggled a phone up his ass.
Speaker 7 (17:50):
It's me get me jonas.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
He has service.
Speaker 8 (17:54):
It must be a satellite phone.
Speaker 9 (17:56):
Hurry up.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
Maybe he's talking to that lady.
Speaker 8 (17:58):
Jesus, he didn't even wipe it off.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
You know, the one who disappeared.
Speaker 8 (18:02):
Do you think you let me check my email.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Oh we better go before he sees us.
Speaker 11 (18:10):
This is Jonah speaking.
Speaker 7 (18:11):
I know you, moron.
Speaker 11 (18:13):
Hello, mister Carl, How can I help you?
Speaker 7 (18:15):
I need to get out of here.
Speaker 11 (18:16):
Everyone misses you, mister Carl.
Speaker 7 (18:18):
No, they don't send my yacht, Sir.
Speaker 11 (18:21):
I would, but I don't know where you.
Speaker 7 (18:23):
Are on the island.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (18:26):
It doesn't have a name, but it's in the eastern
nipple of the Gulf. What how do you not know
where I am.
Speaker 11 (18:34):
I just booked the flight to New Orleans dated the rest.
Speaker 5 (18:37):
Well triangulate between New Orleans, can Coon and Havana.
Speaker 11 (18:42):
There's nothing there.
Speaker 7 (18:43):
I'm standing on it for Fox's sake.
Speaker 11 (18:45):
No islands for hundreds of miles. Sir.
Speaker 5 (18:48):
It used to be a CIA black site.
Speaker 11 (18:50):
You want me to call the CIA Jonas. Yes, mister Carl,
it's made Jonas.
Speaker 7 (18:55):
Listen, you simpering faggot.
Speaker 11 (18:57):
Sir, I'm a sexual but not a romantic.
Speaker 5 (19:01):
Just send my yacht to the eastern International waters of
the Gulf. Tell them to track me on my sat
phone copied.
Speaker 11 (19:10):
After sir, what, sir? I do have something you need
to know?
Speaker 7 (19:16):
What Jonas? Mother freaking flaming fuck?
Speaker 3 (19:30):
How did you sleep last night? CALLI.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Oh, like a baby, I dreamed about a tall drink
of water.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
Oh, a gentleman.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
No, a tall glass full of water. It was about
forty feet high and pretty wide, and everyone in town
was very worried it was gonna break and we'd all
die in the flood. There was a crack in it,
and this mean kid kept tapping it and making the
crack bigger. So I called nine to eleven.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
Okay, did that work?
Speaker 11 (19:56):
No?
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Because then all my teeth fell out and the operator
couldn't understand me. And then the operator was my father,
and he said, Kelly, you stupid bitch. You don't even
know how to talk. That's when I remember I had
offered to watch my sister's bird, Kevin, but I couldn't
remember where i'd put Kevin or where I'd put my sister.
And then a giant iguana tried to impregnate me.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
Uh, you know, I wanted to ask you about something. Yes,
you see, I've been going over your videos.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Yeah, I was having a really bad week. Were you
What do you mean?
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Well, I have to say they seem staged.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Uh, why why would I do that?
Speaker 3 (20:33):
I didn't say you staged them? Okay, But when you're
at the maternity ward, the synagogue and the gay men's
what do you.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Call it, the gay men's Health Chorus.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
Yeah, well, it seemed like the bystander's reactions to what
you were doing wasn't believable. And the camera movements are well,
they're similar in all of them.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Oh, no, you're mad at me.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
I'm just confused.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Well, there is a good explanation for all of this, Kirk,
great callie, Sorry, I saw a bird.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
I just think you should start telling me now.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Okay, So here's the story. My husband Ken is usually
very nice, but at night he grinds his teeth and
jerks around in his sleep. And my teenage daughter Courtney
tries to explain these concepts to me, about the structural
injustice and how the past is not the past is
actually the present we have to judge it that way.
And well, I'm not interested. Those people are dead, okay.
(21:33):
And Regina keeps the window open behind my desk at
the library, and I have allergies, and she keeps saying,
I just need to eat local bee pollen, which is
exactly what I'm allergic to. But if she would just
close the window, it would all be problems.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
Solved, Callie, none of this explains why you needed to
make these videos.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Don't you understand I needed to get away from everyone.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Why didn't you just speak up?
Speaker 6 (21:53):
I didn't want to.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Hurt anybody's feelings. Okay, So I googled fake videos and
found someone on eight or nine Chan, one of the
chans who worked for something called Project Veritas, and he
had his own production company, and he thought we should
make some deep fake videos that were so awful that
no one would come near me. He just shot me
with like a million cameras and did some face replacement
and I wasn't sure about it, but he was having
(22:16):
such a good time shooting them, and he did for free, tally,
that is insane.
Speaker 9 (22:20):
You know it.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
You are mad at me, but I think you would
do the same thing.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
No, I wouldn't. I would try to address the issue.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
That's so mean. You're speaking from a position of a
privilege as a person who's happy.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
You don't know me, CALLI, I know it.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Why can't you tell me that you're unhappy? I thought
we were friends and why can't you just hold me
like yesterday?
Speaker 3 (22:50):
That was a mistake, Calli, And I'm not being mean.
I'm talking about you being honest with the people you love.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Well, I gave them the loving gift of a decision
to hate me instead of feeling like I rejected them.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
So you canceled yourself.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Yes, I have that right.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
You realize you don't really belong here.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Oh, Kirk, please don't tell Karen. I am so happy here.
I met a gecko, I saw a bird.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
I won't say anything, but I do think that this
lie is going to become more and more of a burden,
and we'll have to deal with that in time.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
In time, Will you hold me in time? Just in time?
Speaker 3 (23:34):
Call you're my curatey and you're my manity.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Oh my goodness, is the throw up sound?
Speaker 3 (23:44):
Please let me in clean up?
Speaker 7 (23:47):
What are you doing here?
Speaker 8 (23:49):
The sound is thinking?
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Aution sits back? Come on in, Ki, Kirk.
Speaker 8 (23:58):
I'm scared hold me.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Was about to hold me?
Speaker 6 (24:01):
Guys, I feel a little dizzy myself.
Speaker 7 (24:04):
I got you guy.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
Oh thank you, Kirk. I really could have hurt myself.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Oh I feel faint.
Speaker 7 (24:11):
To Kirk, catch me, Karen.
Speaker 9 (24:21):
We're coming the caves, but there are a lot of them,
so the hounds.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Sorry, I should take this more seriously.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
Oh my god, you're Dusty, let.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Me clean you off.
Speaker 9 (24:31):
Okay, we found this near the storage rooms. That's Chris's scarf, yes,
and there's blood on it. She may have been attacked
or killed.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
My god, who could possibly want to do that? In
any case, I don't want to alarm everyone. Could we
just keep the scarf quiet till we know more?
Speaker 9 (24:47):
Claude, you're the boss?
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Thank you?
Speaker 3 (24:51):
Oh Claude?
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Are you available for a weight training session? All the
stress has really tightened me up?
Speaker 9 (24:58):
How about we get Chriss back?
Speaker 3 (25:00):
First?
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Of course? Hello, is anyone there?
Speaker 3 (25:22):
I'm shit? Who's that?
Speaker 11 (25:30):
Please?
Speaker 3 (25:30):
Take off this blind fault?
Speaker 6 (25:37):
Are you kay?
Speaker 2 (25:38):
No?
Speaker 11 (25:38):
No?
Speaker 1 (25:39):
I'm Chris.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Can you want tie me?
Speaker 4 (25:45):
Are you kay?
Speaker 3 (25:46):
I'm not I'm Chris cats What do you want?
Speaker 9 (25:52):
Are you kay?
Speaker 1 (26:15):
Cancelation Island A Topic Studios and iHeart Podcasts production written
by John Cameron Mitchell and Michael Kevdias, directed by John
Cameron Mitchell, Produced by Christy Gressman, starring Holly Hunter as Karen,
Josh Pice as Carl, Aaron Marky as kai k, Todd
Freeman as Claude, Murphy, Taylor Smith as Collina, just As
(26:39):
Singleton as Kirk, Mary Testa as Chris Joe Firestone as Callie,
Mia Pack as Kyoko, Joseph Keckler as Cale, Maria, Mercedes
Galupo as Carmen, Micah Stock as Casper, Dalmis Garcia as Keky,
Michael Kevidias as Jonas, and Josh Nate Davila Peppo, Veronica
(27:01):
Guadalupe as Pepa. Audio producer Vincent Cascion. Executive producers Michael Kevdias,
John Cameron Mitchell and for iHeart Podcasts Noel Brown and
Nikki Ettore. Composer Lucas Carey. Original song Wait written by
Brett Every and John Cameron Mitchell. Additional music by Vincent Cascion.
(27:23):
Executive in charge of production Jenny Medusa. Recording produced by
Will Stanton, Live production manager Amanda Harris, recorded live in
front of an audience by Will Stanton and Sam Torres.
Live sound by Max Kaufman. Script supervisor Rachel Cole Reader
Stephen Winter, Production coordinator Nick Boyd, Assistant to the director,
(27:45):
Guthrie McCarty, Vaschon Production assistant Brandon Harris, artwork Ricardo de
Signo for Topic Studios Podcasts, Christy Gressman, Adam Cecil, Michelle Lance,
Post production Ethan Lytmmunications, Jeanie Ketis, Dan Goldberg Marketing, Jen Robertson,
Mark Chan, Business and legal affairs, Alex Jiga, Ryan Mack,
(28:09):
zach Locke, Trevor Paul Production Finance, Vince Gonzales, Beatrice Chisholm,
Cancelation Island by John Cameron Mitchell and Michael Cavadillas, a
Topic Studios production, recorded in front of a live audience
at the Bellhouse, Brooklyn, New York.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Good morning, citizens of Renewal. It's an exciting day. Each
curate gets their first private session with their assigned curator.
I wish I could sit on all of them, but
I've got a lot to do today. Curators enjoy getting
to know your curates, and curates enjoy getting to know yourselves.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
We can't find her, Kilcu Please.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Sorry, citizens, Let's focus on the present moment rather than
the past events or future fears. See you at lunch.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
Okay, so you can't find her.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
No, Claude has been combing the island, but there are
a lot of capes.
Speaker 5 (00:58):
Keep looking, so, Ki, are you the kind of girl
who hates her pussy? You know what's all this agender
crap about?
Speaker 6 (01:11):
This is extremely uncomfortable for you, Carl, isn't it?
Speaker 7 (01:16):
Yeah? Yeah? This chair is built for a child.
Speaker 8 (01:20):
You are a real laugh riot.
Speaker 6 (01:22):
I'm sure that came in handy when your parents were
screaming at each other and you needed to diffuse the tension.
Oh please, Or maybe the joke's distracted from your repulsive appearance.
Excuse me, shut up what I said? Shut up, or
I will have you sent back.
Speaker 7 (01:40):
You can't.
Speaker 6 (01:41):
I have the contract you signed right here. It says
I own you. I just tell Karen you're being abusive
and you're heading back at a cargo.
Speaker 8 (01:48):
Hold good.
Speaker 6 (01:52):
I'm going to start by telling you a bit about myself.
I believe that deprivation is the key to harmony and havepiness.
I believe we can help the world by wanting less,
doing less, getting less.
Speaker 7 (02:06):
You know that's stupid.
Speaker 5 (02:07):
Try everything, eat everything, fuck everything.
Speaker 7 (02:11):
That's my motto.
Speaker 6 (02:14):
That was Alexander the Great's philosophy too. You know, when
he conquered India, he encountered a group of Yogis sitting
on a cliff, meditating all day, wanting for little and
he was fascinated by their lack of fear. And when
he threatened to kill them, they just shrugged.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
And that is how they won.
Speaker 7 (02:36):
That's the end of the story.
Speaker 6 (02:38):
What happened next Alexander pushed them off the cliff, but
they still won.
Speaker 5 (02:46):
Has anyone expressed interest in optioning you.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Carl, I'm not ip.
Speaker 6 (02:52):
You can't buy my life, right so you cannot adapt,
co opt, or corrupt me. I am the future, and
the future will not be monetized.
Speaker 7 (03:00):
Oh that's stupid.
Speaker 5 (03:01):
Capitalism is all about selling the future to people, and
of course you've been very busy soliciting millions for your
do nothing campaign for a non existent future. Maybe you
should try crowdsourcing your first orgasm, which you clearly have
in it.
Speaker 7 (03:18):
You just hit me.
Speaker 6 (03:19):
That's correct, Carl. There are no laws on cancelation island.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Callina. Please sit. I'm really looking forward to working with.
Speaker 8 (03:33):
You, Thanks Kirk, but I have to be honest with you.
I don't feel comfortable with this. I don't think I
can have you as my curator. Why not, Well, there's
a power imbalance, obviously, What do you mean. I'm a
white bodied person, you're a black bodied person. You're servicing me.
(03:55):
It feels offensive.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
I mean that sounds kind of hot to me. But
who's getting offended?
Speaker 8 (04:01):
Obviously you are?
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Nay it.
Speaker 8 (04:03):
Well, Conversely, as a male bodied person, you're definitely oppressing
me right now, assuming the role of an authority figure
dominating me, telling me what to do.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Well, maybe that evens out.
Speaker 8 (04:15):
Maybe, But if my body is oppressing yours, and your
body is oppressing.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Mind any bodies. I should have booked the conference room.
Speaker 8 (04:24):
That's not funny, Kirk. I think you're being lazy with
your transness.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
So you calling me a lazy black man.
Speaker 8 (04:32):
I apologize. It's just that I believe one of the
responsibilities of trans identity is challenging received notions of patriarchal
gender roles. And I don't think you're holding space for
the nuances of intersectionality here either.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
I don't know what any of that means.
Speaker 8 (04:47):
How can you say that you're just giving aid and
comfort to the Biggotyanda?
Speaker 3 (04:52):
No, I am a black trans man. I know me,
and I think you need to chill. Let's just start over, Okay,
can we just I don't go outside and take a walk.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
Okay, Wow, it's so beautiful here.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Yeah, Karen really picked a great place. So do your
friends know you're here?
Speaker 8 (05:26):
Oh no, No, they've been really busy. They've been trying
to No, they don't. They all hate me. Yeah, you
should hate me too.
Speaker 9 (05:39):
What.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Okay? Is it racist to assume he was coming for
you because he was a black man. Yeah, but I
mean most cases it's not racist versus un racist. Clena
there are shades of gray.
Speaker 8 (05:54):
Are you calling me a racist?
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Nice one? But really most of your story is just
paranoia and frantic virtue signaling.
Speaker 8 (06:05):
You think so well, I sure feel like I'm drowning,
not waving.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
That's Stevie Smith, right, yeah, yeah, No one ever gets
my poetry references.
Speaker 8 (06:18):
She's my favorite poet.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
There is a God in whom I do not believe
yet to this God, my love stretches.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Wow, I feel that way. I grew up in the church.
Speaker 8 (06:33):
Really me too.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
The guilt don't go away, does it?
Speaker 7 (06:37):
No?
Speaker 8 (06:38):
It rots?
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Or maybe it like fermits like Kimchi.
Speaker 8 (06:42):
I love Kimchi. M You really think I don't deserve
what happened to me?
Speaker 3 (06:50):
The biggest problem in America is nobody deserves what's happening
to them, and we're all guilty until proven rich.
Speaker 8 (06:57):
Oh oh, I understand. So I'm evil because I'm rich. Okay,
I get it now, this is fine.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
What happened to lead up to this?
Speaker 8 (07:05):
What do you mean? I mean?
Speaker 3 (07:06):
Like?
Speaker 7 (07:08):
Who are you?
Speaker 3 (07:10):
What are your parents like? And you know when did
you know that you were a woman?
Speaker 8 (07:16):
Oh that's easy. I always knew I was, and my
folks have always been so supportive of my transition that
they fought the fucking governor on it. My mom won
an award from GLAD.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
So, like, how do they feel about your cancelation?
Speaker 8 (07:33):
I mean, I haven't been able to exactly get them
on the phone since they're helping women get out of Afghanistan,
so they.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
My parents don't talk to me either.
Speaker 8 (07:46):
I know I'm a horrible person.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Oh god, what the fuck? Girl?
Speaker 8 (07:51):
I don't see how anyone can be a good person today.
All they can be.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Is right, clean up? You're beautiful?
Speaker 8 (08:00):
Oh? Well, sure are you?
Speaker 3 (08:06):
I know that's worst stuff we have in common.
Speaker 8 (08:13):
Thank you, Kirk.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
I think this is a great start, Lena. You stay
here and enjoy the beach, collect some shells and wet
your feet, but stay close so I can see you. Okay, okay, cool?
Speaker 10 (08:30):
Bye bye Kirk. Oh, Kirk, fuck me?
Speaker 8 (08:40):
I think I love you.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Kelly. Hi, Kirk, how are you?
Speaker 11 (08:53):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (08:54):
I'm fine. I love how quiet it is. I'm excited
to start my new life here.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Well it's only Tim, Kelly.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
H Why it's so beautiful. I went for a walk
down to the beach.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
You know you're supposed to have a companion when you
leave the compound. We still haven't found Chris Well.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
I found a companion on the beach. There was this
little gecko all alone. It was staring at me with
really big eyes, like human baby eyes, and I thought
maybe she was separated from her flock or pot or murder.
I was thinking about embalming her alive in molten Lo
site to make a bolo tie, but she was so cute,
(09:34):
so instead I sang her this song my cousins and
I used to sing whenever we couldn't find each other.
I can't remember the tune or the words, but I
can sing it for you if you like.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
Hi, That's a lovely song.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
But Aunt Kelly would put on the blindfold and then
once we were all lost, she'd have us sing this
song to try to find each other, and then if
we did, she'd put the ball eggs in her out.
It was fun. We have to try to sing with
the ball gags. That sounds awful, CALLI why. It's one
(10:15):
of the happiest memories of my life. Really, our parents
didn't let us go outside a lot.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Kelly. I'd like to talk a little bit about why
you're here and how.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Are you me. I feel that you are sad too. Oh,
I'm sorry for what I think. I'm really stressing you out.
I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
You don't have to apologize.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
I won't. I'll never do it again.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
Wait, I'm nuts.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Okay, Kurt, Yes, were we both just triggered. Callina told
me about triggering and it sounds weird but cool.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Yes, there will be some triggering in here, but everything
will remain confidential. Okay, Now we should really talk about
your cancelation. Well all right, okay, so you don't dispute
the incidents that led to your cancelation.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Yes, no, yes, I'm guilty.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Can you describe how the videos have affected your family?
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Well, our little girl Kim stumbled onto the video where
I cartwheeled down the aisle of a Korean church and
then vomit ups and one time's on the altar. I
feel terrible because people said one Times aren't Korean. I
should have done more research.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Tell me about your husband.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Ken's been so good to me. I don't know who
would have taken me. If he hadn't, I'd probably still
be working in the applicat department at Michael's. I love
putting things on other things, so does Ken. But usually
he's putting things on me.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
So you've been having marital tensions.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
I guess we have the usual problems. You know, the
other women.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
He cheats on you.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
No, he brings other women over that he puts on me. Now,
I hate to say this, but they weren't very attractive.
I'm sorry. Is that looks he is?
Speaker 3 (12:10):
No, Kelly, Oh it's not. Was there consent?
Speaker 2 (12:15):
What?
Speaker 11 (12:16):
Was it?
Speaker 3 (12:17):
Tacit?
Speaker 11 (12:19):
What?
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Okay? It sounds like you do a lot of stuff
for other people. What do you like to do?
Speaker 2 (12:26):
I love embombing reptiles in molten Leoside.
Speaker 7 (12:29):
Great.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
I think we need to find more things that you
like to do, so when you return you have more
of a foundation of self worth.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Oh I have to go back.
Speaker 7 (12:38):
Not just yet.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Cool?
Speaker 3 (12:43):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
I could have sex with you if you want.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
What. No, Charlie, I don't want to.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Oh God, you're mad at me.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
I'm not. I'm not okay now, Kellie, I don't know
if I'm qualified. Yes, I'm just gonna give you a
hug right now. Nothing else needs to come after that, Okay.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Nothing else, just a hug.
Speaker 11 (13:12):
Okay.
Speaker 7 (13:13):
Actually, why don't you start the hug?
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Okay?
Speaker 9 (13:18):
Mm hmmm.
Speaker 10 (13:24):
Hm.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Okay, Kelly. Uh, that's let's allow the hug tender. How
how did that feel good?
Speaker 2 (13:35):
But can you make sounds? I've watched your videos, you're famous.
They're so relaxing. Can you make the sounds like you're
tasting something delicious? Uh? Okay, oh oh yes, yes, yes,
that's it. That's it. That's good.
Speaker 7 (13:58):
Hey, Kirk.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Tired, I am exhausted.
Speaker 6 (14:03):
It's nice they have this curator's lounge out we here
right the fuck?
Speaker 11 (14:09):
Kirk?
Speaker 6 (14:10):
I am really freaked out about Chris's disappearance.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
Yeah, it's so weird, but I think Chris just built
this rehab is a lot.
Speaker 6 (14:20):
Yeah, especially first sessions mine Elizabeth Carl.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
He's a tough nut.
Speaker 6 (14:26):
Yeah, he's definitely trying to bait me. I think he's
trying to get me to explode so you can get
a softer curator.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
Oh like me.
Speaker 6 (14:34):
No, I wasn't insinuating.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
Don't worry. I'm a proud soft boy. I guess I'm
a hard one.
Speaker 11 (14:43):
Hey.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
You know, I've been thinking something about CALLI just doesn't
add up. I mean, she's so sweet.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
But those videos are wild.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Yeah, but you should watch them again. They just they
look sort of unreal. I mean I make a lot
of video content and her seems staged.
Speaker 6 (15:02):
What they were posted by bystanders, weren't they?
Speaker 2 (15:05):
I guess what.
Speaker 6 (15:08):
Do you think about Karen?
Speaker 3 (15:09):
What do you mean?
Speaker 6 (15:11):
Well, she's been a famous wellness guru for what ten
years now? But I couldn't find anything about her before
she was forty. I think she changed her name to Karen. Well, yeah,
I did some research and I'm pretty sure her name
was Joy Granta before and there was some shit that
(15:35):
happened to a Joy granted, but I didn't have time.
Speaker 8 (15:39):
I just wish I could get on Wi Fi.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
Do you have an issue with authority figures?
Speaker 6 (15:45):
I'm not your curate, Kirk, I know, but I probably
do have an issue with authority. It all goes back
to mom.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
What fact doesn't have a narcissistic mom?
Speaker 6 (16:00):
Yeah, thanks for seeing me, Kirk.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
So you're consciously celibate? Yeah, what a fucking waste, Kirky dog.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
So this is the curates lounge. It's so comfy. The
other curatees don't seem to want to talk to me, though.
Is it possible to be canceled by canceled people?
Speaker 8 (16:34):
Everybody loves a packing mortar?
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Yeah? Did I tell you about the big I geto
or maybe it was a baby iguana. It looked so
sad but happy, like Kirk. I think I heard it loud.
Speaker 8 (16:47):
I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I can't hear you. Carl is
making a racket. Oh my god, can you keep it down?
Speaker 7 (16:53):
Are you talking to me?
Speaker 8 (16:54):
Can you go do that somewhere else?
Speaker 7 (16:56):
I'm not doing anything.
Speaker 5 (16:58):
I'm just constipated.
Speaker 7 (17:00):
Relax.
Speaker 8 (17:00):
Don't fucking gaslight me, you disgusting toad.
Speaker 7 (17:04):
Lick me, then lick the psychopathic toad.
Speaker 8 (17:07):
You don't shut up?
Speaker 9 (17:08):
What?
Speaker 7 (17:09):
Whoa what are you gonna do? Lady? If that's what
you really are?
Speaker 8 (17:13):
What did you just call me?
Speaker 3 (17:15):
You? Oh my goodness, fuck off, I'm out of here.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Let's follow him. What come on? Oh my god, what's
he doing?
Speaker 8 (17:30):
What the fuck.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Is he doing into his own hand?
Speaker 11 (17:37):
You?
Speaker 8 (17:38):
I'm gonna throw up. Is that a phone? I can't
believe he smuggled a phone up his ass.
Speaker 7 (17:50):
It's me get me jonas.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
He has service.
Speaker 8 (17:54):
It must be a satellite phone.
Speaker 9 (17:56):
Hurry up.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
Maybe he's talking to that lady.
Speaker 8 (17:58):
Jesus, he didn't even wipe it off.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
You know, the one who disappeared.
Speaker 8 (18:02):
Do you think you let me check my email.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Oh we better go before he sees us.
Speaker 11 (18:10):
This is Jonah speaking.
Speaker 7 (18:11):
I know you, moron.
Speaker 11 (18:13):
Hello, mister Carl, How can I help you?
Speaker 7 (18:15):
I need to get out of here.
Speaker 11 (18:16):
Everyone misses you, mister Carl.
Speaker 7 (18:18):
No, they don't send my yacht, Sir.
Speaker 11 (18:21):
I would, but I don't know where you.
Speaker 7 (18:23):
Are on the island.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (18:26):
It doesn't have a name, but it's in the eastern
nipple of the Gulf. What how do you not know
where I am.
Speaker 11 (18:34):
I just booked the flight to New Orleans dated the rest.
Speaker 5 (18:37):
Well triangulate between New Orleans, can Coon and Havana.
Speaker 11 (18:42):
There's nothing there.
Speaker 7 (18:43):
I'm standing on it for Fox's sake.
Speaker 11 (18:45):
No islands for hundreds of miles. Sir.
Speaker 5 (18:48):
It used to be a CIA black site.
Speaker 11 (18:50):
You want me to call the CIA Jonas. Yes, mister Carl,
it's made Jonas.
Speaker 7 (18:55):
Listen, you simpering faggot.
Speaker 11 (18:57):
Sir, I'm a sexual but not a romantic.
Speaker 5 (19:01):
Just send my yacht to the eastern International waters of
the Gulf. Tell them to track me on my sat
phone copied.
Speaker 11 (19:10):
After sir, what, sir? I do have something you need
to know?
Speaker 7 (19:16):
What Jonas? Mother freaking flaming fuck?
Speaker 3 (19:30):
How did you sleep last night? CALLI.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Oh, like a baby, I dreamed about a tall drink
of water.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
Oh, a gentleman.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
No, a tall glass full of water. It was about
forty feet high and pretty wide, and everyone in town
was very worried it was gonna break and we'd all
die in the flood. There was a crack in it,
and this mean kid kept tapping it and making the
crack bigger. So I called nine to eleven.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
Okay, did that work?
Speaker 11 (19:56):
No?
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Because then all my teeth fell out and the operator
couldn't understand me. And then the operator was my father,
and he said, Kelly, you stupid bitch. You don't even
know how to talk. That's when I remember I had
offered to watch my sister's bird, Kevin, but I couldn't
remember where i'd put Kevin or where I'd put my sister.
And then a giant iguana tried to impregnate me.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
Uh, you know, I wanted to ask you about something. Yes,
you see, I've been going over your videos.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Yeah, I was having a really bad week. Were you
What do you mean?
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Well, I have to say they seem staged.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Uh, why why would I do that?
Speaker 3 (20:33):
I didn't say you staged them? Okay, But when you're
at the maternity ward, the synagogue and the gay men's
what do you.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Call it, the gay men's Health Chorus.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
Yeah, well, it seemed like the bystander's reactions to what
you were doing wasn't believable. And the camera movements are well,
they're similar in all of them.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Oh, no, you're mad at me.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
I'm just confused.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Well, there is a good explanation for all of this, Kirk,
great callie, Sorry, I saw a bird.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
I just think you should start telling me now.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Okay, So here's the story. My husband Ken is usually
very nice, but at night he grinds his teeth and
jerks around in his sleep. And my teenage daughter Courtney
tries to explain these concepts to me, about the structural
injustice and how the past is not the past is
actually the present we have to judge it that way.
And well, I'm not interested. Those people are dead, okay.
(21:33):
And Regina keeps the window open behind my desk at
the library, and I have allergies, and she keeps saying,
I just need to eat local bee pollen, which is
exactly what I'm allergic to. But if she would just
close the window, it would all be problems.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
Solved, Callie, none of this explains why you needed to
make these videos.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Don't you understand I needed to get away from everyone.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Why didn't you just speak up?
Speaker 6 (21:53):
I didn't want to.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Hurt anybody's feelings. Okay, So I googled fake videos and
found someone on eight or nine Chan, one of the
chans who worked for something called Project Veritas, and he
had his own production company, and he thought we should
make some deep fake videos that were so awful that
no one would come near me. He just shot me
with like a million cameras and did some face replacement
and I wasn't sure about it, but he was having
(22:16):
such a good time shooting them, and he did for free, tally,
that is insane.
Speaker 9 (22:20):
You know it.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
You are mad at me, but I think you would
do the same thing.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
No, I wouldn't. I would try to address the issue.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
That's so mean. You're speaking from a position of a
privilege as a person who's happy.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
You don't know me, CALLI, I know it.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Why can't you tell me that you're unhappy? I thought
we were friends and why can't you just hold me
like yesterday?
Speaker 3 (22:50):
That was a mistake, Calli, And I'm not being mean.
I'm talking about you being honest with the people you love.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Well, I gave them the loving gift of a decision
to hate me instead of feeling like I rejected them.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
So you canceled yourself.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Yes, I have that right.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
You realize you don't really belong here.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Oh, Kirk, please don't tell Karen. I am so happy here.
I met a gecko, I saw a bird.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
I won't say anything, but I do think that this
lie is going to become more and more of a burden,
and we'll have to deal with that in time.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
In time, Will you hold me in time? Just in time?
Speaker 3 (23:34):
Call you're my curatey and you're my manity.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Oh my goodness, is the throw up sound?
Speaker 3 (23:44):
Please let me in clean up?
Speaker 7 (23:47):
What are you doing here?
Speaker 8 (23:49):
The sound is thinking?
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Aution sits back? Come on in, Ki, Kirk.
Speaker 8 (23:58):
I'm scared hold me.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Was about to hold me?
Speaker 6 (24:01):
Guys, I feel a little dizzy myself.
Speaker 7 (24:04):
I got you guy.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
Oh thank you, Kirk. I really could have hurt myself.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Oh I feel faint.
Speaker 7 (24:11):
To Kirk, catch me, Karen.
Speaker 9 (24:21):
We're coming the caves, but there are a lot of them,
so the hounds.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Sorry, I should take this more seriously.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
Oh my god, you're Dusty, let.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Me clean you off.
Speaker 9 (24:31):
Okay, we found this near the storage rooms. That's Chris's scarf, yes,
and there's blood on it. She may have been attacked
or killed.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
My god, who could possibly want to do that? In
any case, I don't want to alarm everyone. Could we
just keep the scarf quiet till we know more?
Speaker 9 (24:47):
Claude, you're the boss?
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Thank you?
Speaker 3 (24:51):
Oh Claude?
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Are you available for a weight training session? All the
stress has really tightened me up?
Speaker 9 (24:58):
How about we get Chriss back?
Speaker 3 (25:00):
First?
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Of course? Hello, is anyone there?
Speaker 3 (25:22):
I'm shit? Who's that?
Speaker 11 (25:30):
Please?
Speaker 3 (25:30):
Take off this blind fault?
Speaker 6 (25:37):
Are you kay?
Speaker 2 (25:38):
No?
Speaker 11 (25:38):
No?
Speaker 1 (25:39):
I'm Chris.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Can you want tie me?
Speaker 4 (25:45):
Are you kay?
Speaker 3 (25:46):
I'm not I'm Chris cats What do you want?
Speaker 9 (25:52):
Are you kay?
Speaker 1 (26:15):
Cancelation Island A Topic Studios and iHeart Podcasts production written
by John Cameron Mitchell and Michael Kevdias, directed by John
Cameron Mitchell, Produced by Christy Gressman, starring Holly Hunter as Karen,
Josh Pice as Carl, Aaron Marky as kai k, Todd
Freeman as Claude, Murphy, Taylor Smith as Collina, just As
(26:39):
Singleton as Kirk, Mary Testa as Chris Joe Firestone as Callie,
Mia Pack as Kyoko, Joseph Keckler as Cale, Maria, Mercedes
Galupo as Carmen, Micah Stock as Casper, Dalmis Garcia as Keky,
Michael Kevidias as Jonas, and Josh Nate Davila Peppo, Veronica
(27:01):
Guadalupe as Pepa. Audio producer Vincent Cascion. Executive producers Michael Kevdias,
John Cameron Mitchell and for iHeart Podcasts Noel Brown and
Nikki Ettore. Composer Lucas Carey. Original song Wait written by
Brett Every and John Cameron Mitchell. Additional music by Vincent Cascion.
(27:23):
Executive in charge of production Jenny Medusa. Recording produced by
Will Stanton, Live production manager Amanda Harris, recorded live in
front of an audience by Will Stanton and Sam Torres.
Live sound by Max Kaufman. Script supervisor Rachel Cole Reader
Stephen Winter, Production coordinator Nick Boyd, Assistant to the director,
(27:45):
Guthrie McCarty, Vaschon Production assistant Brandon Harris, artwork Ricardo de
Signo for Topic Studios Podcasts, Christy Gressman, Adam Cecil, Michelle Lance,
Post production Ethan Lytmmunications, Jeanie Ketis, Dan Goldberg Marketing, Jen Robertson,
Mark Chan, Business and legal affairs, Alex Jiga, Ryan Mack,
(28:09):
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