August 2, 2021 • 44 mins
Cannabis legalization is increasing house prices. Andrew Yoon is CEO of Xtractor Depot. Xtractor Depot tests all of the vacuum ovens, short path distillation kits and closed extractors before selling them.
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X T R A C T O R D E
P O T and Uh Andrew Yuan is gonna be
with us. Thank you Andrew for joining us today. Before
we bring you on to learn all about that. Craig
has some news that's burning a hole in his pants,
and feel free to chime in Andrew if any of
this stuff interest you. But Craig, I know you got
some good news. Actually, what's funny is it literally did
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burn a hole in it. I know what's going on
in cannabis news, Craig. You know this has been discussed
a lot of times, has been discussed in the past,
but this is now official. Marijuana legalization increases property values
to study fine, Hello, and we've been talking about that
ever since. Regulations and licensing that licensed retail storefronts decrease
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crime and increase property values because of the nature of
the security that's required at the state and city levels,
and uh gentification and the revenue that generates around that business.
Because if you have, say a liquor store, you have
a clothing store, people are gotta proper. It's not necessarily that,
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but what it is is clever Real Estate draws on
data from ZILLO and the US Census sources. For example,
Illinois in a case in point last year, the states
sold about six hundred and seventy million dollars in cannabis
and took in two hundred five point four million attacks revenue.
That revenue had gone towards a wide range of causes,
supporting organizations that work to decrease street violence. And when
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you reduce the violence in the giving communities, it's one
way to increase property values. So it also shows that
between two thousand, seventeen and twenty one, property values rows
upwards of seventeen thousand dollars or more in states where
recreational marijuan is legal compared to states where cannabis is
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illegal or limited. For just justintal use. Is that seventeen
dollars per store foot no. Seventeen thousand dollars seventeen thousand dollars.
They indicate that home values are predicted to increase by
an average of sixty one dollars per year in states
that have legalized cannabis. Home value. Home value not just
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homes that are around people are moving. But you're saying
in the states is legal in general, the taxes are
coming in and it's used to uh fixed roads, parks, recreation.
So with all that new money coming in and all
the new development going on, it's going to increase the
property value. I can give you a purchase to perfect
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example of right here in our backyard, Long Beach, California.
You know where we're, dude, We're Long Beach, you know,
actually has their green zone. It was probably one of
the worst neighborhoods in Long Beach when it comes to
you know, crime, it comes to you know, transient folks
living there, and it comes to uh as far as
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just cleanliness, the place was a mess. Now you go
over there and all these beautiful new buildings, all this
you know, well kept, you know, a landscape. Everything is
very very up up up in that neighborhood. And I
literally pulled in there, you know, several months ago, and
I was just like, Wow, what a three and sixty
degree change. You've got security there, You've got it's just clean.
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It's not piss on all the walls. Now it's just changed.
I wonder if that's happening in the outskirts of California
areas like the friends knows in Oklahoma's it's funny states.
It's funny you mentioned that, Joe. I'm glad you brought
up Oklahoma because in the article it says a separate
analysis from the economists at the University of Oklahoma similarly
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stated that states that legalized marijuana actually see a boost
in housing prices, and this is why because of the
retail outlets themselves. They're indicating that this demonstrated is not
simply the benefits of increased tax revenue, but the existence
of the dispensaries themselves. This is a drive. This is
driving the price increases. The dispensaries act as commercial amenities
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that the public puts a premium on for something nearby,
and it's also goes you know, you could add on
top of that even having malls, right, so, like even
having places that people can go to for a nice
dying things like that, like those would help bring the
economy and bring that area where you're living out higher,
because why you have nice restaurants in town. You look
at Vegas and they did the outskirts of Vegas and
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how they built all these things like summer Land, and
they built this phenomenal area. Summer One has been there
a lot longer than we I'm just saying that. I'm
just saying, you know, they build it's on top of
but you know, you build that and then you bring
that to the equation, you get rid of all the
illegal ones and you have the legal ones. It's gonna
drive it up. And we've been saying that for years.
We still have what two thirds of the cities in
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the state of California that don't allow cannabis activities. They
don't see this is happening because in their city where
it's banned, that's where you have the illegal pop up shops.
That's where you have the illegal cultivations. That's where you
have all the potential crime because you have the crime
on crime against illegal marijuana operations, but you don't have
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much crime against the legal ones because they're open. You
can call police if something happens. They have major security.
And I just where did you have your legal shops
that It was in his backyard. It was the backyard.
I did carry around a big trench coat. You have
eight and then there's the one that we had blue
and garden growth. Yeah, I think you don't want to
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get that phone there. You want to just let you
know what you know what people are leaving. No, no, no,
for all those for all those who who haven't used
their iPhone emergency contact designation. It rings no matter why contact,
no matter the answering. That one, it's emergency. It's all
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He's one, I mean. And that's also when he's falling in. Yeah,
it is that one. Where's the leash for the dogy
to that story. There are so many states that are
still illegal, and you've got the refugees, the people who
want to get their kids cannabis who are coming to
the legal states also, So I think that's helping drive
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it up. Our our homeboy price value went up recently,
and I was like, what's going on because you smoke,
we didn't know. Maybe it's why they're such a huge
celebrity and they want to buy the celebrity Black Panther
was the Black Panther was at his house. Well, you guys,
speaking of illegal companies and this and that, we have
Andrew and I'm just kidding, speaking of criminals and doing
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illegal things. Andrew, I'm sure that's how you started, right
the black market doing what you have been seven years.
Andrew has probably done his fair share of learning how
to do this stuff. This is Andrew, you and the
CEO of Extractor Depot. You can see their website extractor
depot dot com, which is X the letter t R
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A C t O R d e p ot dot com.
They test all of the vacuum ovens, short path dissolation kits,
and closed loop extractors before selling them to ensure that
they will perform effectively and efficiently. Andrew, Hell, and the
hell do you create a company like this and get
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into this right? Um? I got into this because I
was an extractor myself about six seven years ago. And um,
going out there and trying to buy equipment back then
was pretty much impossible. And you couldn't even find dry
ice anywhere. You couldn't even you know, get gas anywhere.
So you could get the gas, but it was so
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you would have to use like the Beau tank cans
and can tap. You know, he were doing the same
thing in his back exactly, Balds, Is that how you
started in your backyard as well? Yep, exactly like everyone else.
You know, it kind of started out as me wanting
to just make my own product, and then I realized
when I went out and bought the closest equipment that
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nobody was doing it professionally. And so so did you
go from blasting to closed loop? Yep? Yeah, because I
remember when the kids did that and they went to
the closed loop like seven eight years ago, it was horrible.
Can we bring that down out there for everyone was
closed blasting it start start off exactly what that is?
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Starting off doing that? What is exactly what do you
need to do it? Yeah? Right with open blasting or
closing started with the blasting which was done way like
seven years ago before, done seven eight years ago at
the statute. Well, you know stop. So it's probably happening
in many states outside of California, but for us California
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we've kind of got away from the blasting in your
backyard thing. Most of us have. I'm sure some kids
are still doing they're still blowing themselves up. We get
the calls, yeah, but ultimately in other states that's probably
brand new for them, just like we were, so exactly
kind of go through that model and then share us
how the you know, the new model looks right. So
I mean it all started with open blasting. UM. You
know back then there was no like information out there
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on the internet. UM, there was in social media. That's
a big part of how a lot of this you know,
grew so fast as people on social media platforms sharing
what they were doing. UM. And this industry kind of
grew out of an open source kind of idea sharing
kind of platform. So when open blasting was popular, people
were starting to get into the closed up side of
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you know, the equipment side. And UM that's when all
the tech and the de waxing and you know, doing
that in a safe way start to happen a lot more. UM.
And you know with with the extraction equipment, UM, you
know it's still evolving. All the products that you know
we release whatnot like crc UM, you know, things that
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helped make the product more pure or help preserve the
essence of the actual original plant that you're extracting. UM.
A lot of that is you know what you use
clothes loop for it because with an open blasting system
or basically like a tube, you can't really control any variables.
You're just hoping that it comes out good. UM, So
you have to you know, start with good quality product
to really make that open blasted product really consumable. And
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also the thing with open blasted products is there's what
people call mystery oil. Um. So the buttane in those
lighter fluid cans, the refill cans, they have lubricant inside it,
um and so that when you're open blasting, you're accumulating
all of that in your concentrate. And so a lot
of people um found out about that because at first
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people didn't know that they were inhaling, like vaporizing that
in their product. And then when misree oil actually got
known to the public, that's when closed loops started to
take off because people realize, oh, I can make a
higher purity product to still out and clean out the
gas and you know, not have to inhale all that stuff.
And so that's when clothes loops really start to take
off in the market, when people realize they could differentiate
themselves with their products by saying, hey, my my product
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is you know, made with distilled gas, it's been purgedts um.
So a lot of that stuff evolved very quickly UM
as people realize, you know, and we're demanding a higher
quality product as well. So you know, did you find
that that one that's much safer? Right? I mean, you know,
you know, let's explain to our listeners that the blasting.
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You have these big, what three four ft glass tubes
that you stuffed the weed into, and then you take
a can of but chane and you you basically spray
it or blasted down the tube and then the at
the bottom comes out the concentrate and then from there
if people which correct, yeah, it's a liquid um, I
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guess you can call liquid form. Uh. And then from
there there were processes to uh separate it and get
all the crap out, which a lot of people did
not do back then, and that's where you'd have this
mystery or you'd have black looking tar. Was disgusting and
and it was and it was dangerous, but I mean
people did it for years. And if you did it right,
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I'm assuming like they did open area no electrical no phones,
no gas, no cigarettes, no lighting, you know, nothing of
sparkage you could actually take in the factor. That's how
people are blown themselves. Even like sunlight not sunlight, bulb
black what do you know? But like someone could walk
in the room right, and the switch and and flip
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electrical an electrical spark because you're doing the because of
the field you've got it. You remember, you've got china, dude.
A lot of times people think it's a joke and
they walk in there with a cigarette. They'll flick, we've
had that booth. We've had that happened in the cases
the people who were doing it indoors. Everybody I've known
that did it successfully that way, it was outdoors, Perry.
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Indoors want to do it outdoors because they didn't want
their neighbors to see it, or luckily some of us
had neighbors that didn't care. The ones that did it
indoors was bad. So the closed loop is a machine
which he can explain a little better than I can.
But it keeps the beau chain in the system, so
it's not going out into the environment. That's why it's
called closed loops. So when when however, the machine does
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the blasting of the gas, it stays within the machine.
And well, when we come back to hear how extractor
depot does it, because Craig's how he did it in
his backyard. He explained it very well, thank you, But
let's hear how Andrew Yun does it at extractor Depot.
It's kind of bestock. One oh one. We'll be right
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CEO of Extractor Depot. Now, how did you get you know,
such a I want to see a footprint in the
industry because you know, there's a lot of companies that
are out there you're just doing extremely well. And and
for us, you know, we look at companies and we
we we sought out companies that look like they're doing
things right. They've been in the industry and hold a
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standard and I feel like that's what your company does.
So you know, tell us about like some of the
curves that you may have had but to learn and
then how you actually became a solid, real licensed company
that's doing things right right. Um, when we started Extractor Depot,
we were more of a part store. Um, you know,
we we didn't have the huge capital backing to buy
a bunch of full systems and whatnot, So we start
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out selling you know, fittings and hoses and filter paper
and small little things that people would need on the daily,
and then it kind of grew into providing full turn
key solutions now because um, as we we realized we
needed to involve with the market, um, you know, with
everyone needing more of their more help with building their
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systems as well, because you know, when we first started
a lot of people were doing things on their own.
They were piecing together their own Frankenstein system and then
but I mean that's the way the game started though. Dude,
I walked into buildings and the guy was just you know,
there was this and it was and it was like,
what the hell is this machine? That term and we
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see the Frankenstein solutions that blow up and then they
come to us because they're arrested and looking at felonies
because they blew themselves up, right exactly. Yeah, So I
mean it starts with that, but um, you know when
it our companies evolved because we're trying to involve with
the license market as well. Um. You know, when we
first started, a lot of our customers, like there was
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no regulatory system and when we first started, there was
just felonies. Do you couldn't do chemicals, You can't you
still can't do chemical extraction right now, now you can
with a license exactly. Back then it was just a felony.
How did you guys ever have to deal with cops
and all that stuff? Were there any other incidences, you know,
like as a company, No, we never had to deal
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with any kind of harassment or anything from the cops.
You know, we have you know, plenty of customers that
have ran into trouble and whatnot. But this is Officer Frankino.
He has you facedown police, but it's still doing it.
Back then, like you know, you guys were talking about
it was a tremendous risk to do that just to
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get good, clean medicine to patient. But it's not a
risk if you think about it. For Andrew if he's
just selling the product. I mean, somebody goes and kills somebody,
they don't go to the gun distributor where they bought
the gun. I don't know. If somebody's making a legal product,
they're not going to go to Andrew's company go hey,
you sold them this. And it doesn't make sense well
because because again extractions can be used for you know,
all kinds of different Europeans don't just come I mean
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there's a lot that can be extracted, right, it would
be you know, oranges or vanillailla getta. You know. So
there's so much to that, um. And but have you
seen or heard those stories of like, you know, people
that maybe bought your products and use them for the
wrong purposes and in cases and stuff like that. Yeah,
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and then and then you've seen the license guy that
are operating new Now it's a dangerous sport, right, you know,
what what would you tell someone like an average like
a good sized company trying to start, you know, because
I think it's important for our listeners. Know, like a
lot of people, I'm gonna start an extraction lab and
they don't know what they're getting into. Yeah, what does
that cost look like? And and how does it play out?
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Because I know there's ventilation and stuff that needs to
be done, bomb rooms or not. So. Yeah, the biggest
mistake people make is trying to do everything all at once.
At the beginning, they over purchase equipment, They spend all
their capital on equipment they'll never end up using. And
so that's the biggest mistakes a lot of people make. UM.
When it comes to like you know, setting up a lab.
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You know, you can spend millions of dollars or you
can start with a couple hundred thousand dollars um. And
so the most expensive part of licensing is the building,
you know, for the most part, and paying for that
building while you're get the license and things like that.
So but for the most part, um, when it comes
to uh, you know that kind of stuff, you know,
you definitely want to make sure you're vetting out your
long term business plan as well. A lot of people
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just start out wanting to make every single product and
you know kind of have a false sense of you know,
knowing the market that well, and they they want to
brand every single product and ends up being you know,
very um overwhelming for a lot of licensees trying to
do so many different products and so they often times,
as you say, I walk into your shop, writer, I
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go online, I'm on extract your depot and I hit
chat and I'm like, I want to start this. This
is Joe granted, what's the first thing I need to get? Um?
The first thing after you get a license? Um, you know,
let's go the other side. I don't know what license do,
but I want to make my own stuff because my
family member is ill and I'm looking to help cure
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this cancer and do this somewhere, and I don't want
to and I have money to do it. So what
do I need to do? Um for someone that's doing
it in the house, um like in a in a home,
I would definitely recommend not using any kind of hydrocarbon
or volatile chemicals um us. But you can't ut illegal.
You cannot do chemical extraction period. Whether you're at home,
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whether you're at a business with a business, you gotta
have the license. If you're at home, you certainly can.
And the entry point, Joe, to answer you, the question
is too high for somebody that's just to do something
for your mom and pop. Oh, it's not even something
you do for yourself for what Yeah, but what he's offering,
and if I believe I'm correct, right, is that the
entry point to come into You've got to be a
business to be you've got to be able to you know,
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you're moving, you know you should be using at twenty
four hours a day one or at least twelve hours
a day or eight to ten. But but you know
you're looking at the you know, let's say fifty two
a hundred pounds of extracting throughout you know, X Y,
and so you're using at least about a hundred pounds
of to extract, you know, to to get on the level.
I think the answers on yes, you know, to make money,
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to make money, Yeah, they make money. You're right, you're
it's expensive, it's big time. Yeah, yeah, it's it's it's
not you know, what what does that cost look like?
Because you know, break down. So he let's say he
was doing, uh, like the website. I'm looking at all
these pieces are huge. It's not like some little correct
to black Craigs describing I'm looking at this. This is
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an industrial, big solid uh. It looks like, you know,
seventeen size times the barbecue pit from Costco. It's like
these big, big things. Well you think breaking bad labs,
you know when you see those labs, they's like that, Yeah,
well one of those uh units costs. And then I
understand you do some consulting as well. So so you know,
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let's say, you know again, let's start it from the
point of you know, coming in, I've got a license
here in Long Beach. I want to you know, get
a starter kit, but not the not the best one
or not the biggest one, but I want to get
my feet wet. How would you, you know, lead me
into that? I would first ask what kind of end
products you're trying to make, get a clear idea of
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what you're in goal and your product visionists, um, and
then after that kind of work backwards and figure out
how much volume you think you can produce and sell.
Because a lot of people get the biggest system and
they make all this product and then they end up
not being able to sell it exactly. So that's a
lot of the people don't really think about eight to Z.
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They think, oh, I have all this money, let's buy
this equipment is just gonna sell itself, you know, And
so that's a lot of people make mistakes like that,
so they go overboard with their equipment purchases without really
having the capital to pay for payroll, you know the
whole time or things like that. So you know, like
that doesn't bother you as long as you're buying the equipment.
That's okay. I'm sorry you're going through this, but see
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that that's what happens to people who get the wrong
attorney because they don't get told everything right from the outset,
and then they go buy the equipment, and then suddenly
they're out of money, like, wait, what a lot of happened.
I don't have any my money to finish, so I
can give you an idea, though, I know some guys
to spit upwards of thirty million dollars. Are you shitting me? Yeah?
Thirty million dollars. That's kind of average or a high end.
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What do you think? You know, that's a lot. But
they did that in five years, right, and they spent
over thirty million dollars in Long Beach. And you know
the reality is is they're not They're producing enough, but
they don't know how to sell it. So there's always
the like and just said it, right. And I think
it's important to have these conversations with people because you know,
I used to have this conversation with people that were growers,
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you know, and they say, you know, you could help
us out up these girls and I'd walk them through
this massive grow and and then you know, how many
you know pounds are you producing? Now? We're doing about
three thousand pounds every you know harvest or whatever. In
their mind, they're like, cool, I want to do that,
and you're like great. You know, it's like, who are
you selling it too, though, and they're like, well, you know,
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you know, once you grow to selling, it's like yeah,
but not unless you're in that mix. Like you can't
just walk onto the football field and be like, Yo,
I'm gonna play professional ball, you know what I mean?
Like you gotta work out, you gotta you gotta exercise.
If not, you're gonna you're gonna kill yourself, you know.
And so I think a lot of these people come
in they have the pocketbooks, whether it's institutional money, private money,
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however they get it. They come to the stage and
they don't realize how to dance, and then they have
all this stuff and they get they get pigeonholed or
whatnot into we have great products, but we don't know
how to sell it, and so they start fire selling it,
you know what I mean? And that's you know, a
recipe for disaster exactly. So as you see this, are
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you guys walking people do? Because I look on the
website and then you know, you can meet the Manobello team,
you can meet the San Bernardino team. How many people
call up and asked to speak to Smokey and say,
can Smokey help me with this? As the picture of
Smoke is a beautiful black lab maybe our German German shepherd.
Beautiful black shepherd. Look at this picture of all the
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crew and then there's one picture as part of the crew.
Tell me the story about this. Why is Smoky on
the website is actually our protection dog over in San Bardino.
We had a little incident over there. So my wife
actually runs that chop so just for her protection, I
got her protection DOGU fully canine trained, no way so
she could boom sick of nine. Is that something to
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talk about on air the situation or is that? Yeah?
So what happened, Yeah, we just had you know, San
Bernardino isn't the very isn't the best area, um and yeah,
and so we had someone just walk in and you know,
threaten threatened our employees with a gun and with the Yeah.
Well they said they had a gun in the car
and they're like, you know, we're gonna go get it
and they just walked out with the system. And then
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a couple of months later, um, you know, the police
called us and they said, hey, we have this machine
year with you know, your your tag on it. They
didn't do anything with it. They just they were going
around stealing you know, four by fours and a bunch
of stuff. They didn't know what to do with it. Yeah,
exactly what the hell is this? Yeah, so it came
back home. Yeah that's good. How much was that machine? Probably?
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They didn't even know what to do it, didn't even
want to sell it. Yes, what are some of the
prices andre the machines you guys have and what type
of machines do you have? Um? I mean with extractor depot,
we carry everything everything after the grow. So if you're
concentrating a product, we carry everything from the closed lip
extraction equipment that makes sure bho products to the to
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the equipment that makes distil it, which goes in your
eight pens um. Pretty much anything you need to make
a finished you know, oil product. We we service extra oils,
crumble whatever, whatever it takes exactly. Now, now, is there
is there a you know, are you manufacturing your own products? Um?
It depends on what you're talking about. So closed loop
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that's all stainless products. We design all those products in house,
we certify with our engineer, and then we produce all
those overseas. Glassware we make in house. So it kind
of depends on what the product is, any plans to
actually get into the cannabis space yourself actually touching the plant. Um. Actually,
in the last two years, I partnered into a lab
in Long Beach and so um which one um it's
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called manufacturing. Yeah, so Um. I actually partnered in. I
brought some equipment in um things like that, so I
didn't really have to put up any capital. But you
know capital, yeah, exactly, Yeah, it is. You're bringing the
machines that you paid, machines you made. I mean, Andrew,
you're running such a great company. The website looks amazing.
You look like a very young man. How old were
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you when you first started doing all this? I was
let's see, I started Extractor Depot in two thousand sixteen,
so that was five years ago. Told you, I'm thirty
right now, I just turned three years. You started this
and you started from doing it in the backyard. You're like, now,
let me do this machine. What did your family say
to you about this? So I'm Korean and my parents
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were super conservative, and that's why I'm asking dog, I'm
judging the books by a cover boy, and see the
Asian descent. They're not maybe they were so like, yeah,
let's go get exactly. You never know, that's what I'm
you never know, but you roll the dice that Korean
and what they say. It took a while to first
even introduce them to cannabis, and so that was the
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first hurdle to kind of get them to accept that.
And then once they accepted that, you know, they saw
that I was taking care of myself in terms of
you know, cover bells and stuff like that. So you know,
once they saw the money, they were like, all right,
go with it. And they're fully supportive of it that
they smoke. Now my dad actually does Nice is a
daily poker. Nice turned them out. I say that that's
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a beautiful thing because there's so many families that just
won't you know, yeah, they're against it there just to
get us against it. They won't. They won't tolerated for
nothing in their home around them it's illegal drugs, not
even the conversation that you know, they stands stronger that no,
it's I legal drugs and every and every every culture
and yeah, for sure every culture. And then when you
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sit down and you actually, you know, I guess bless
someone with the plant or they allowed their mind to
expand and open up and and you know, embraced what
this plant can do for you. And then they try it,
they go, wow, this is awesome, you know. And and
you know, did what did he drink before that or anything?
Is he? I mean, he doesn't drink much. He was
a um, you know, chain smoker, so he dropped cigarettes
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and took up you know, cannabis had a better change. Yeah. Yeah,
and your mom she just still know nothing. She's uh,
she's a cancer survivor. And you know, I actually got
into making oils because I wanted to make you know,
full spectrum uh you know Rick Simpson oil shirt. Um.
And she didn't really like it because it kind of
made her super paranoid and even more you know, panicky.
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But yeah, she's she's definitely some people have that reactions,
you know what I mean, So it doesn't hit everybody
the same way. It's so interesting. See, I get paranoid,
by the way, you know, if I if I take
too much, there's a there's a fine line for me where.
But when you were younger, No, well, when I was younger,
I just smoked so much. I smoked right through the paranoia.
You know what I mean. You're enjoying smoking blood whenever.
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You know, It's never hit me like that. I never
I never got the paranoia aspect. I just feel I
just and how about not paranoia, It's more of an
uncertainty feel where I just felt like, you know, I
don't feel, you know, having a conversation. If I'm looking
at somebody and someone has one on one conversation with me,
I'm very confident in the in the in the conversation.
But if there's a point where if I smoked too
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much or get too high for me, I feel, you know,
like I'm not having the best conversation ever. Or did
I say that? Right? Did that? And I questioned things?
And so when I started to have that feel, you know,
I'm very conscious of it now. But when I was younger,
I didn't give a ship. I just smoked everybody. You
know what I'm saying. It was like I'm smoking at
your house, I'm moking at his out. Well, we're gonna
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find out where Andrew smoked when we come back. We
got the high five with Andrew, you and the CEO
of Extractor Depot. Check out their website extractor depot dot
com and the same thing on Instagram and Facebook. It's
Cannabis Talk one on one. We'll be right back after this.
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Take a hit, get lit, and sit back and enjoy
Cannabis Talk one oh one, Mark and Craig, the Pop Brothers,
that Law, Blue and Joe Grande and I want to
give a special thanks to our Cannabis Talk one oh
one team, Erica, Abel, Daniel, cal Tim Pitt, Peanut, Jennifer
and Elvis. Chris Frankie making it happen. Hey, Joe, you
(32:38):
didn't put Chris down here. I'm I'm reading he doesn't
think he gets deserves and Chris makes everything happened much
more than Joe. So it's just development. You know. I
really do think Chris Frankie ship and there. I don't know,
why take a seat. I wanted to just bash him
again like I've done before. I'm a business development guy.
(32:58):
Chris frank Canna. I think that's act see even more
because he was such a bigger title that. You know,
he doesn't really help with the production side of things.
He helps with the business well it is, but he
is gonna help produce some great audio tomorrow. Oh well
this is gonna air way later than this, but you
might as well talk about it as it could. It's
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it's it's gonna be after the fact when they listen
to this. But but the audio will be played after
this anyway, So I guess we can't talk about it.
That being said, folks in a podcast coming up, we're
gonna actually get to take the microphone into the courthouse.
We tried for video that the case that mark. We've
described this case. Educate everybody in um re bring it up, everybody.
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We've talked to this on a past show, and we
we represented a guy who was at an Airbnb that
he legally rented Airbnb in the city of Alhambra, and
the neighbor of that house saw a strange black man
standing on the porch and it wasn't even the guy
who rented the place. The neighbor called one said, there's
(34:06):
a strange black man standing on the porch. The cops came.
There was nobody there. When the cops came, there was
no signs of breaking an entery, no broken windows, nothing
showing that there was any kind of crime. The cops
went around the back no evidence of a crime, no
evidence of breaking and entering, no broken glass. The cops
decided to open the back door which was unlocked, and
(34:27):
walk in without a warrant, without knocking and announcing, and
there stood our client in the kitchen and his underwear
with about fifty pounds of cannabis everywhere. He was then
arrested and charged and we are fighting this. We have
filed our motion. The judge took it under submission. This
is about a month and a half ago and the
ruling is going to be coming down. We did a
(34:48):
media motion to get cameras in there. The judge is
allowing audio, so we will be back soon with this ruling,
and we are hoping that we got this case dismissed
because there was an illegal search. There were no exigent
emergency circumstances. And as I said in my closing statement
to the judge, if you rule against us, then it
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is an emergency situation. Now if a black man is
on a porch and the cops get to just walk
into somebody's house. What do you think, Craig and your experiences,
You have a little bit more experience than your brother
in law. And I know it's hypothetical, and I know
you're gonna hurt your elbow reaching, but you now that
you're taking M M. A classes and you're working out harder.
Shouldn't hurt yourself so bad taking a stab at this
(35:33):
one or a punch at this I should say, I
love how you're laughing and just looking at it. Ask question,
what do you think as last time you were like
this never happened? This, judge, this is the first time,
mind you that both of you said this never happened?
What do you think? And I know it's hypothetical regarding
regarding but she's gonna come back and say, and then, Mark,
I want to know what you think. And you know
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there's no right or wrong. I just what do you
think She's gonna say? Wait? Wait, you know what I'm
reaching underneath? There was a show set pull out. I'm
pulling out my crystal ball. There we go. That's what
That's what we tell clients exact And I know and
I know it's me. But let's let's say I was
a pundent on a show. And let's say I was
(36:17):
a pundent on a talk show, right, just right? You know,
I think by her putting it off potentially can show
that she is writing an opinion bulletproof in order to
justify her hopefully dismissing the case. So you think she's
(36:40):
like because of this, that, that, and that is why
it's bullshit and we're gonna let this go and pass
it on because you cannot do what Mark said in
his closing arguments, see a black man on a par
it's basically racial profiling a hunch. The hunch isn't good
enough either. Well, well, if the judge wants to decide
at the cop who said, well, the reason I went
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in is because it's in a high traffic crime area
near a freeway and the Rolling thirties and other gang
black gangs are in that area, which they always say
that that was his reason. In any urban area that
is like part of it's part of the hope. Is
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that a good enough reason? If there's sometimes sometimes to
some judges it is, that's up to the judge. Coupled
with more let's talk about really quick, it's usually dismissed.
What happens. Does he get his back? Fo we do
back for cannabis. No, he doesn't go to jail. That's
so charge it to the games. Charges to the game.
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There's a few bucks. That's the cost of doing business.
If you're not regulated and you're not licensed. He can't
call that personal. Well, you'd have to you'd have to
have a good medical and you'd have to have good injuries. Doctor,
I don't if he didn't have that. If you have that,
that makes up what's called the immunity defense, where you're
proving that you need all that for your own personal
(38:05):
medical reasons, and you've got doctors and cannabis experts and
everybody coming in to prove that. Can we take those
hundred pounds to extract a depot and have them You
know what, in all seriousness, there are so many cases
that get dismissed for these reasons where illegal searches was
done and they then destroy the cannabis. They destroy it.
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Why not give it to a company to go then
make it to vets patients and yeah, put it through testing,
but don't just destroy it. You know, if it's now now,
there's nothing stopping us from us filing if it gets
dismissed asking for it back. You know why, because there's unfortunately,
(38:54):
unfortunately to be the same thing. If they had ten
pounds of heroin, we could get the case to Smith
for un llegal for heroin is illegal cannabis, Yes it is,
it is. If you don't have a medical card. If
you have a medical it is illegal. No, it is illegal. First,
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the medical card is a defense, just like back in
the day, like your lawyers. Right, we got it, we
got it. Show down and make me look like an idiot.
We gotta tell make it look like an idiot. Just correct. Hey,
we don't have to make you look like an idiot
by yourself. Joe. Now it's the my favorite time of
the show. Let's do it with Andrew Une the Cannabis
(39:40):
Talk one oh one high five, just ceo of extract
your depot and if you're ever in the San Bernardino office,
you can go check out Smokey the Beautiful German Shepherd,
or else you can go see my guy Andrew in
the Manobello office. It is now time Andrew Une for
the high five. How old you the first time you
smoked cannabis? And where'd you get it from? Good question? Um,
(40:06):
he's like, my parents are listening. I think I was
twenty years old? Nice? And where uh in college? In
my buddies basement because we don't have basements here in California. St.
Louis University A good way of figuring that one out.
I was like, what do you mean? Question number two,
(40:29):
what is your favorite way to use cannabis um? I
would say, Dabby, oh, your hardcore less figure, because you
get the best flavor if you have the and if
you do it right with the right tempy machine over
the Question number three of the High five with Andrew Yune,
CEO of Extractor Depot, brought to you by calif X.
(40:53):
Craziest place you've ever used or smoked cannabis um? Probably
on a plane, just like using a eight pen on
the plane. Just get in the bathroom or in your
seat in any ways, all right, that's that's guts, all
right done. Question number four of the Cannabis Talk one
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on one High five with Andrew Yune, what is your
go to munchies after you get high? Probably chocolate chip cookies? Nice?
Any particular wife's calling again? Look at you, Craig. You
might have to leave question number five with the High five.
If you could smoke cannabis with anyone dead or alive,
(41:36):
who would it be and why? Snoop DOGG? Yeah dog,
I think it would just be really fun to smoke
a joint with him or G four live has an event,
I can't say, yeah, don't don't be Look, hey, put
your pants out, might be coming out. Maybe it's great man.
(41:58):
You know what though, Andrew, you spent so great hearing
your stories offes. I'm looking at your team over here.
How difficult is it? Are interesting? Is it? What is
that dynamic like putting together a team for an extractor deepote?
Like meaning do they all have to have experience and extracting?
Because I'm looking at all these beautiful young faces on
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there from you know, your Ernies or Seans, your Genie,
your Steph, David and Ishmael everybody. What does it take
to be a part of the team there um a
good attitude and hard worker. You know, that's really it,
and we we can teach you everything else. And so
you don't need to know anything coming in. You just
have to have a passion and good attitude and that's
all you really need and we can teach you the rest.
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So what if somebody shows up missing four fingers because
they are extracting back in the days at Craig's house
and they lost four knuckles, no one lost any limb,
No one lost any limbs. Well do we miss anything? Man?
Is anything that you want to talk about your company
that then get once again. The website is extractor depot
dot com, which is the letter x t R A
C t O R d E p ot dot com.
(43:04):
Same thing for their Instagram and Facebook, anything else that
you want to promote um. We provide a lot of
training as well for people who are just trying to
learn about the industry. So that's a big part of
what we're working on now is trying to standardize the
extraction field so that this can be more of a
professionally accepted industry because right now, you know, there's no standard,
you don't need certifications. So we're working with the state
(43:26):
to try to bring more legitimacy to the industry by
professionalizing it and standardizing more things. And so now do
you get ship out of the out of the state
and stuff anywhere in the country. Yeah, we we also
ship all over the world, so we have customers in
South Africa that are making stuff right now, Canada, Mexico's
you know, really well going big right now. So we well,
hopefully we see you at the events, man, because I
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think what you're doing and everything I see online looks dope,
and I think everybody else will be so interested to
see because just alone like these ma change, You're like, wow,
this is how it's made, right, Like someone's walking around
the pin smoking it. They have no fucking clue on
how it's made exactly. It's important. Yeah, it's really important,
very educational, very informational, and I'm sure a lot of
people will jump on you, guys, but thanks for coming
on the show, bro. Thank you. Well. There it is,
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(01:04):
guest is Extractor Depot. You can find them on Instagram.
X T R A C T O R D E
P O T and Uh Andrew Yuan is gonna be
with us. Thank you Andrew for joining us today. Before
we bring you on to learn all about that. Craig
has some news that's burning a hole in his pants,
and feel free to chime in Andrew if any of
this stuff interest you. But Craig, I know you got
some good news. Actually, what's funny is it literally did
(01:27):
burn a hole in it. I know what's going on
in cannabis news, Craig. You know this has been discussed
a lot of times, has been discussed in the past,
but this is now official. Marijuana legalization increases property values
to study fine, Hello, and we've been talking about that
ever since. Regulations and licensing that licensed retail storefronts decrease
(01:53):
crime and increase property values because of the nature of
the security that's required at the state and city levels,
and uh gentification and the revenue that generates around that business.
Because if you have, say a liquor store, you have
a clothing store, people are gotta proper. It's not necessarily that,
(02:13):
but what it is is clever Real Estate draws on
data from ZILLO and the US Census sources. For example,
Illinois in a case in point last year, the states
sold about six hundred and seventy million dollars in cannabis
and took in two hundred five point four million attacks revenue.
That revenue had gone towards a wide range of causes,
supporting organizations that work to decrease street violence. And when
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you reduce the violence in the giving communities, it's one
way to increase property values. So it also shows that
between two thousand, seventeen and twenty one, property values rows
upwards of seventeen thousand dollars or more in states where
recreational marijuan is legal compared to states where cannabis is
(02:58):
illegal or limited. For just justintal use. Is that seventeen
dollars per store foot no. Seventeen thousand dollars seventeen thousand dollars.
They indicate that home values are predicted to increase by
an average of sixty one dollars per year in states
that have legalized cannabis. Home value. Home value not just
(03:20):
homes that are around people are moving. But you're saying
in the states is legal in general, the taxes are
coming in and it's used to uh fixed roads, parks, recreation.
So with all that new money coming in and all
the new development going on, it's going to increase the
property value. I can give you a purchase to perfect
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example of right here in our backyard, Long Beach, California.
You know where we're, dude, We're Long Beach, you know,
actually has their green zone. It was probably one of
the worst neighborhoods in Long Beach when it comes to
you know, crime, it comes to you know, transient folks
living there, and it comes to uh as far as
(04:03):
just cleanliness, the place was a mess. Now you go
over there and all these beautiful new buildings, all this
you know, well kept, you know, a landscape. Everything is
very very up up up in that neighborhood. And I
literally pulled in there, you know, several months ago, and
I was just like, Wow, what a three and sixty
degree change. You've got security there, You've got it's just clean.
(04:25):
It's not piss on all the walls. Now it's just changed.
I wonder if that's happening in the outskirts of California
areas like the friends knows in Oklahoma's it's funny states.
It's funny you mentioned that, Joe. I'm glad you brought
up Oklahoma because in the article it says a separate
analysis from the economists at the University of Oklahoma similarly
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stated that states that legalized marijuana actually see a boost
in housing prices, and this is why because of the
retail outlets themselves. They're indicating that this demonstrated is not
simply the benefits of increased tax revenue, but the existence
of the dispensaries themselves. This is a drive. This is
driving the price increases. The dispensaries act as commercial amenities
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that the public puts a premium on for something nearby,
and it's also goes you know, you could add on
top of that even having malls, right, so, like even
having places that people can go to for a nice
dying things like that, like those would help bring the
economy and bring that area where you're living out higher,
because why you have nice restaurants in town. You look
at Vegas and they did the outskirts of Vegas and
(05:32):
how they built all these things like summer Land, and
they built this phenomenal area. Summer One has been there
a lot longer than we I'm just saying that. I'm
just saying, you know, they build it's on top of
but you know, you build that and then you bring
that to the equation, you get rid of all the
illegal ones and you have the legal ones. It's gonna
drive it up. And we've been saying that for years.
We still have what two thirds of the cities in
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the state of California that don't allow cannabis activities. They
don't see this is happening because in their city where
it's banned, that's where you have the illegal pop up shops.
That's where you have the illegal cultivations. That's where you
have all the potential crime because you have the crime
on crime against illegal marijuana operations, but you don't have
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much crime against the legal ones because they're open. You
can call police if something happens. They have major security.
And I just where did you have your legal shops
that It was in his backyard. It was the backyard.
I did carry around a big trench coat. You have
eight and then there's the one that we had blue
and garden growth. Yeah, I think you don't want to
(06:38):
get that phone there. You want to just let you
know what you know what people are leaving. No, no, no,
for all those for all those who who haven't used
their iPhone emergency contact designation. It rings no matter why contact,
no matter the answering. That one, it's emergency. It's all
(07:00):
He's one, I mean. And that's also when he's falling in. Yeah,
it is that one. Where's the leash for the dogy
to that story. There are so many states that are
still illegal, and you've got the refugees, the people who
want to get their kids cannabis who are coming to
the legal states also, So I think that's helping drive
(07:20):
it up. Our our homeboy price value went up recently,
and I was like, what's going on because you smoke,
we didn't know. Maybe it's why they're such a huge
celebrity and they want to buy the celebrity Black Panther
was the Black Panther was at his house. Well, you guys,
speaking of illegal companies and this and that, we have
Andrew and I'm just kidding, speaking of criminals and doing
(07:43):
illegal things. Andrew, I'm sure that's how you started, right
the black market doing what you have been seven years.
Andrew has probably done his fair share of learning how
to do this stuff. This is Andrew, you and the
CEO of Extractor Depot. You can see their website extractor
depot dot com, which is X the letter t R
(08:04):
A C t O R d e p ot dot com.
They test all of the vacuum ovens, short path dissolation kits,
and closed loop extractors before selling them to ensure that
they will perform effectively and efficiently. Andrew, Hell, and the
hell do you create a company like this and get
(08:25):
into this right? Um? I got into this because I
was an extractor myself about six seven years ago. And um,
going out there and trying to buy equipment back then
was pretty much impossible. And you couldn't even find dry
ice anywhere. You couldn't even you know, get gas anywhere.
So you could get the gas, but it was so
(08:45):
you would have to use like the Beau tank cans
and can tap. You know, he were doing the same
thing in his back exactly, Balds, Is that how you
started in your backyard as well? Yep, exactly like everyone else.
You know, it kind of started out as me wanting
to just make my own product, and then I realized
when I went out and bought the closest equipment that
(09:05):
nobody was doing it professionally. And so so did you
go from blasting to closed loop? Yep? Yeah, because I
remember when the kids did that and they went to
the closed loop like seven eight years ago, it was horrible.
Can we bring that down out there for everyone was
closed blasting it start start off exactly what that is?
(09:26):
Starting off doing that? What is exactly what do you
need to do it? Yeah? Right with open blasting or
closing started with the blasting which was done way like
seven years ago before, done seven eight years ago at
the statute. Well, you know stop. So it's probably happening
in many states outside of California, but for us California
(09:48):
we've kind of got away from the blasting in your
backyard thing. Most of us have. I'm sure some kids
are still doing they're still blowing themselves up. We get
the calls, yeah, but ultimately in other states that's probably
brand new for them, just like we were, so exactly
kind of go through that model and then share us
how the you know, the new model looks right. So
I mean it all started with open blasting. UM. You
know back then there was no like information out there
(10:11):
on the internet. UM, there was in social media. That's
a big part of how a lot of this you know,
grew so fast as people on social media platforms sharing
what they were doing. UM. And this industry kind of
grew out of an open source kind of idea sharing
kind of platform. So when open blasting was popular, people
were starting to get into the closed up side of
(10:31):
you know, the equipment side. And UM that's when all
the tech and the de waxing and you know, doing
that in a safe way start to happen a lot more. UM.
And you know with with the extraction equipment, UM, you
know it's still evolving. All the products that you know
we release whatnot like crc UM, you know, things that
(10:51):
helped make the product more pure or help preserve the
essence of the actual original plant that you're extracting. UM.
A lot of that is you know what you use
clothes loop for it because with an open blasting system
or basically like a tube, you can't really control any variables.
You're just hoping that it comes out good. UM, So
you have to you know, start with good quality product
to really make that open blasted product really consumable. And
(11:15):
also the thing with open blasted products is there's what
people call mystery oil. Um. So the buttane in those
lighter fluid cans, the refill cans, they have lubricant inside it,
um and so that when you're open blasting, you're accumulating
all of that in your concentrate. And so a lot
of people um found out about that because at first
(11:36):
people didn't know that they were inhaling, like vaporizing that
in their product. And then when misree oil actually got
known to the public, that's when closed loops started to
take off because people realize, oh, I can make a
higher purity product to still out and clean out the
gas and you know, not have to inhale all that stuff.
And so that's when clothes loops really start to take
off in the market, when people realize they could differentiate
themselves with their products by saying, hey, my my product
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is you know, made with distilled gas, it's been purgedts um.
So a lot of that stuff evolved very quickly UM
as people realize, you know, and we're demanding a higher
quality product as well. So you know, did you find
that that one that's much safer? Right? I mean, you know,
you know, let's explain to our listeners that the blasting.
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You have these big, what three four ft glass tubes
that you stuffed the weed into, and then you take
a can of but chane and you you basically spray
it or blasted down the tube and then the at
the bottom comes out the concentrate and then from there
if people which correct, yeah, it's a liquid um, I
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guess you can call liquid form. Uh. And then from
there there were processes to uh separate it and get
all the crap out, which a lot of people did
not do back then, and that's where you'd have this
mystery or you'd have black looking tar. Was disgusting and
and it was and it was dangerous, but I mean
people did it for years. And if you did it right,
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I'm assuming like they did open area no electrical no phones,
no gas, no cigarettes, no lighting, you know, nothing of
sparkage you could actually take in the factor. That's how
people are blown themselves. Even like sunlight not sunlight, bulb
black what do you know? But like someone could walk
in the room right, and the switch and and flip
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electrical an electrical spark because you're doing the because of
the field you've got it. You remember, you've got china, dude.
A lot of times people think it's a joke and
they walk in there with a cigarette. They'll flick, we've
had that booth. We've had that happened in the cases
the people who were doing it indoors. Everybody I've known
that did it successfully that way, it was outdoors, Perry.
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Indoors want to do it outdoors because they didn't want
their neighbors to see it, or luckily some of us
had neighbors that didn't care. The ones that did it
indoors was bad. So the closed loop is a machine
which he can explain a little better than I can.
But it keeps the beau chain in the system, so
it's not going out into the environment. That's why it's
called closed loops. So when when however, the machine does
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the blasting of the gas, it stays within the machine.
And well, when we come back to hear how extractor
depot does it, because Craig's how he did it in
his backyard. He explained it very well, thank you, But
let's hear how Andrew Yun does it at extractor Depot.
It's kind of bestock. One oh one. We'll be right
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next to us, we have Andrew Now, Andrew Yun, the
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CEO of Extractor Depot. Now, how did you get you know,
such a I want to see a footprint in the
industry because you know, there's a lot of companies that
are out there you're just doing extremely well. And and
for us, you know, we look at companies and we
we we sought out companies that look like they're doing
things right. They've been in the industry and hold a
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standard and I feel like that's what your company does.
So you know, tell us about like some of the
curves that you may have had but to learn and
then how you actually became a solid, real licensed company
that's doing things right right. Um, when we started Extractor Depot,
we were more of a part store. Um, you know,
we we didn't have the huge capital backing to buy
a bunch of full systems and whatnot, So we start
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out selling you know, fittings and hoses and filter paper
and small little things that people would need on the daily,
and then it kind of grew into providing full turn
key solutions now because um, as we we realized we
needed to involve with the market, um, you know, with
everyone needing more of their more help with building their
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systems as well, because you know, when we first started
a lot of people were doing things on their own.
They were piecing together their own Frankenstein system and then
but I mean that's the way the game started though. Dude,
I walked into buildings and the guy was just you know,
there was this and it was and it was like,
what the hell is this machine? That term and we
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see the Frankenstein solutions that blow up and then they
come to us because they're arrested and looking at felonies
because they blew themselves up, right exactly. Yeah, So I
mean it starts with that, but um, you know when
it our companies evolved because we're trying to involve with
the license market as well. Um. You know, when we
first started, a lot of our customers, like there was
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no regulatory system and when we first started, there was
just felonies. Do you couldn't do chemicals, You can't you
still can't do chemical extraction right now, now you can
with a license exactly. Back then it was just a felony.
How did you guys ever have to deal with cops
and all that stuff? Were there any other incidences, you know,
like as a company, No, we never had to deal
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with any kind of harassment or anything from the cops.
You know, we have you know, plenty of customers that
have ran into trouble and whatnot. But this is Officer Frankino.
He has you facedown police, but it's still doing it.
Back then, like you know, you guys were talking about
it was a tremendous risk to do that just to
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get good, clean medicine to patient. But it's not a
risk if you think about it. For Andrew if he's
just selling the product. I mean, somebody goes and kills somebody,
they don't go to the gun distributor where they bought
the gun. I don't know. If somebody's making a legal product,
they're not going to go to Andrew's company go hey,
you sold them this. And it doesn't make sense well
because because again extractions can be used for you know,
all kinds of different Europeans don't just come I mean
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there's a lot that can be extracted, right, it would
be you know, oranges or vanillailla getta. You know. So
there's so much to that, um. And but have you
seen or heard those stories of like, you know, people
that maybe bought your products and use them for the
wrong purposes and in cases and stuff like that. Yeah,
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and then and then you've seen the license guy that
are operating new Now it's a dangerous sport, right, you know,
what what would you tell someone like an average like
a good sized company trying to start, you know, because
I think it's important for our listeners. Know, like a
lot of people, I'm gonna start an extraction lab and
they don't know what they're getting into. Yeah, what does
that cost look like? And and how does it play out?
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Because I know there's ventilation and stuff that needs to
be done, bomb rooms or not. So. Yeah, the biggest
mistake people make is trying to do everything all at once.
At the beginning, they over purchase equipment, They spend all
their capital on equipment they'll never end up using. And
so that's the biggest mistakes a lot of people make. UM.
When it comes to like you know, setting up a lab.
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You know, you can spend millions of dollars or you
can start with a couple hundred thousand dollars um. And
so the most expensive part of licensing is the building,
you know, for the most part, and paying for that
building while you're get the license and things like that.
So but for the most part, um, when it comes
to uh, you know that kind of stuff, you know,
you definitely want to make sure you're vetting out your
long term business plan as well. A lot of people
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just start out wanting to make every single product and
you know kind of have a false sense of you know,
knowing the market that well, and they they want to
brand every single product and ends up being you know,
very um overwhelming for a lot of licensees trying to
do so many different products and so they often times,
as you say, I walk into your shop, writer, I
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go online, I'm on extract your depot and I hit
chat and I'm like, I want to start this. This
is Joe granted, what's the first thing I need to get? Um?
The first thing after you get a license? Um, you know,
let's go the other side. I don't know what license do,
but I want to make my own stuff because my
family member is ill and I'm looking to help cure
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this cancer and do this somewhere, and I don't want
to and I have money to do it. So what
do I need to do? Um for someone that's doing
it in the house, um like in a in a home,
I would definitely recommend not using any kind of hydrocarbon
or volatile chemicals um us. But you can't ut illegal.
You cannot do chemical extraction period. Whether you're at home,
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whether you're at a business with a business, you gotta
have the license. If you're at home, you certainly can.
And the entry point, Joe, to answer you, the question
is too high for somebody that's just to do something
for your mom and pop. Oh, it's not even something
you do for yourself for what Yeah, but what he's offering,
and if I believe I'm correct, right, is that the
entry point to come into You've got to be a
business to be you've got to be able to you know,
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you're moving, you know you should be using at twenty
four hours a day one or at least twelve hours
a day or eight to ten. But but you know
you're looking at the you know, let's say fifty two
a hundred pounds of extracting throughout you know, X Y,
and so you're using at least about a hundred pounds
of to extract, you know, to to get on the level.
I think the answers on yes, you know, to make money,
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to make money, Yeah, they make money. You're right, you're
it's expensive, it's big time. Yeah, yeah, it's it's it's
not you know, what what does that cost look like?
Because you know, break down. So he let's say he
was doing, uh, like the website. I'm looking at all
these pieces are huge. It's not like some little correct
to black Craigs describing I'm looking at this. This is
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an industrial, big solid uh. It looks like, you know,
seventeen size times the barbecue pit from Costco. It's like
these big, big things. Well you think breaking bad labs,
you know when you see those labs, they's like that, Yeah,
well one of those uh units costs. And then I
understand you do some consulting as well. So so you know,
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let's say, you know again, let's start it from the
point of you know, coming in, I've got a license
here in Long Beach. I want to you know, get
a starter kit, but not the not the best one
or not the biggest one, but I want to get
my feet wet. How would you, you know, lead me
into that? I would first ask what kind of end
products you're trying to make, get a clear idea of
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what you're in goal and your product visionists, um, and
then after that kind of work backwards and figure out
how much volume you think you can produce and sell.
Because a lot of people get the biggest system and
they make all this product and then they end up
not being able to sell it exactly. So that's a
lot of the people don't really think about eight to Z.
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They think, oh, I have all this money, let's buy
this equipment is just gonna sell itself, you know, And
so that's a lot of people make mistakes like that,
so they go overboard with their equipment purchases without really
having the capital to pay for payroll, you know the
whole time or things like that. So you know, like
that doesn't bother you as long as you're buying the equipment.
That's okay. I'm sorry you're going through this, but see
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that that's what happens to people who get the wrong
attorney because they don't get told everything right from the outset,
and then they go buy the equipment, and then suddenly
they're out of money, like, wait, what a lot of happened.
I don't have any my money to finish, so I
can give you an idea, though, I know some guys
to spit upwards of thirty million dollars. Are you shitting me? Yeah?
Thirty million dollars. That's kind of average or a high end.
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What do you think? You know, that's a lot. But
they did that in five years, right, and they spent
over thirty million dollars in Long Beach. And you know
the reality is is they're not They're producing enough, but
they don't know how to sell it. So there's always
the like and just said it, right. And I think
it's important to have these conversations with people because you know,
I used to have this conversation with people that were growers,
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you know, and they say, you know, you could help
us out up these girls and I'd walk them through
this massive grow and and then you know, how many
you know pounds are you producing? Now? We're doing about
three thousand pounds every you know harvest or whatever. In
their mind, they're like, cool, I want to do that,
and you're like great. You know, it's like, who are
you selling it too, though, and they're like, well, you know,
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you know, once you grow to selling, it's like yeah,
but not unless you're in that mix. Like you can't
just walk onto the football field and be like, Yo,
I'm gonna play professional ball, you know what I mean?
Like you gotta work out, you gotta you gotta exercise.
If not, you're gonna you're gonna kill yourself, you know.
And so I think a lot of these people come
in they have the pocketbooks, whether it's institutional money, private money,
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however they get it. They come to the stage and
they don't realize how to dance, and then they have
all this stuff and they get they get pigeonholed or
whatnot into we have great products, but we don't know
how to sell it, and so they start fire selling it,
you know what I mean? And that's you know, a
recipe for disaster exactly. So as you see this, are
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you guys walking people do? Because I look on the
website and then you know, you can meet the Manobello team,
you can meet the San Bernardino team. How many people
call up and asked to speak to Smokey and say,
can Smokey help me with this? As the picture of
Smoke is a beautiful black lab maybe our German German shepherd.
Beautiful black shepherd. Look at this picture of all the
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crew and then there's one picture as part of the crew.
Tell me the story about this. Why is Smoky on
the website is actually our protection dog over in San Bardino.
We had a little incident over there. So my wife
actually runs that chop so just for her protection, I
got her protection DOGU fully canine trained, no way so
she could boom sick of nine. Is that something to
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talk about on air the situation or is that? Yeah?
So what happened, Yeah, we just had you know, San
Bernardino isn't the very isn't the best area, um and yeah,
and so we had someone just walk in and you know,
threaten threatened our employees with a gun and with the Yeah.
Well they said they had a gun in the car
and they're like, you know, we're gonna go get it
and they just walked out with the system. And then
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a couple of months later, um, you know, the police
called us and they said, hey, we have this machine
year with you know, your your tag on it. They
didn't do anything with it. They just they were going
around stealing you know, four by fours and a bunch
of stuff. They didn't know what to do with it. Yeah,
exactly what the hell is this? Yeah, so it came
back home. Yeah that's good. How much was that machine? Probably?
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They didn't even know what to do it, didn't even
want to sell it. Yes, what are some of the
prices andre the machines you guys have and what type
of machines do you have? Um? I mean with extractor depot,
we carry everything everything after the grow. So if you're
concentrating a product, we carry everything from the closed lip
extraction equipment that makes sure bho products to the to
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the equipment that makes distil it, which goes in your
eight pens um. Pretty much anything you need to make
a finished you know, oil product. We we service extra oils,
crumble whatever, whatever it takes exactly. Now, now, is there
is there a you know, are you manufacturing your own products? Um?
It depends on what you're talking about. So closed loop
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that's all stainless products. We design all those products in house,
we certify with our engineer, and then we produce all
those overseas. Glassware we make in house. So it kind
of depends on what the product is, any plans to
actually get into the cannabis space yourself actually touching the plant. Um. Actually,
in the last two years, I partnered into a lab
in Long Beach and so um which one um it's
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called manufacturing. Yeah, so Um. I actually partnered in. I
brought some equipment in um things like that, so I
didn't really have to put up any capital. But you
know capital, yeah, exactly, Yeah, it is. You're bringing the
machines that you paid, machines you made. I mean, Andrew,
you're running such a great company. The website looks amazing.
You look like a very young man. How old were
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you when you first started doing all this? I was
let's see, I started Extractor Depot in two thousand sixteen,
so that was five years ago. Told you, I'm thirty
right now, I just turned three years. You started this
and you started from doing it in the backyard. You're like, now,
let me do this machine. What did your family say
to you about this? So I'm Korean and my parents
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were super conservative, and that's why I'm asking dog, I'm
judging the books by a cover boy, and see the
Asian descent. They're not maybe they were so like, yeah,
let's go get exactly. You never know, that's what I'm
you never know, but you roll the dice that Korean
and what they say. It took a while to first
even introduce them to cannabis, and so that was the
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first hurdle to kind of get them to accept that.
And then once they accepted that, you know, they saw
that I was taking care of myself in terms of
you know, cover bells and stuff like that. So you know,
once they saw the money, they were like, all right,
go with it. And they're fully supportive of it that
they smoke. Now my dad actually does Nice is a
daily poker. Nice turned them out. I say that that's
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a beautiful thing because there's so many families that just
won't you know, yeah, they're against it there just to
get us against it. They won't. They won't tolerated for
nothing in their home around them it's illegal drugs, not
even the conversation that you know, they stands stronger that no,
it's I legal drugs and every and every every culture
and yeah, for sure every culture. And then when you
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sit down and you actually, you know, I guess bless
someone with the plant or they allowed their mind to
expand and open up and and you know, embraced what
this plant can do for you. And then they try it,
they go, wow, this is awesome, you know. And and
you know, did what did he drink before that or anything?
Is he? I mean, he doesn't drink much. He was
a um, you know, chain smoker, so he dropped cigarettes
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and took up you know, cannabis had a better change. Yeah. Yeah,
and your mom she just still know nothing. She's uh,
she's a cancer survivor. And you know, I actually got
into making oils because I wanted to make you know,
full spectrum uh you know Rick Simpson oil shirt. Um.
And she didn't really like it because it kind of
made her super paranoid and even more you know, panicky.
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But yeah, she's she's definitely some people have that reactions,
you know what I mean, So it doesn't hit everybody
the same way. It's so interesting. See, I get paranoid,
by the way, you know, if I if I take
too much, there's a there's a fine line for me where.
But when you were younger, No, well, when I was younger,
I just smoked so much. I smoked right through the paranoia.
You know what I mean. You're enjoying smoking blood whenever.
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You know, It's never hit me like that. I never
I never got the paranoia aspect. I just feel I
just and how about not paranoia, It's more of an
uncertainty feel where I just felt like, you know, I
don't feel, you know, having a conversation. If I'm looking
at somebody and someone has one on one conversation with me,
I'm very confident in the in the in the conversation.
But if there's a point where if I smoked too
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much or get too high for me, I feel, you know,
like I'm not having the best conversation ever. Or did
I say that? Right? Did that? And I questioned things?
And so when I started to have that feel, you know,
I'm very conscious of it now. But when I was younger,
I didn't give a ship. I just smoked everybody. You
know what I'm saying. It was like I'm smoking at
your house, I'm moking at his out. Well, we're gonna
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find out where Andrew smoked when we come back. We
got the high five with Andrew, you and the CEO
of Extractor Depot. Check out their website extractor depot dot
com and the same thing on Instagram and Facebook. It's
Cannabis Talk one on one. We'll be right back after this.
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Take a hit, get lit, and sit back and enjoy
Cannabis Talk one oh one, Mark and Craig, the Pop Brothers,
that Law, Blue and Joe Grande and I want to
give a special thanks to our Cannabis Talk one oh
one team, Erica, Abel, Daniel, cal Tim Pitt, Peanut, Jennifer
and Elvis. Chris Frankie making it happen. Hey, Joe, you
(32:38):
didn't put Chris down here. I'm I'm reading he doesn't
think he gets deserves and Chris makes everything happened much
more than Joe. So it's just development. You know. I
really do think Chris Frankie ship and there. I don't know,
why take a seat. I wanted to just bash him
again like I've done before. I'm a business development guy.
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Chris frank Canna. I think that's act see even more
because he was such a bigger title that. You know,
he doesn't really help with the production side of things.
He helps with the business well it is, but he
is gonna help produce some great audio tomorrow. Oh well
this is gonna air way later than this, but you
might as well talk about it as it could. It's
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it's it's gonna be after the fact when they listen
to this. But but the audio will be played after
this anyway, So I guess we can't talk about it.
That being said, folks in a podcast coming up, we're
gonna actually get to take the microphone into the courthouse.
We tried for video that the case that mark. We've
described this case. Educate everybody in um re bring it up, everybody.
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We've talked to this on a past show, and we
we represented a guy who was at an Airbnb that
he legally rented Airbnb in the city of Alhambra, and
the neighbor of that house saw a strange black man
standing on the porch and it wasn't even the guy
who rented the place. The neighbor called one said, there's
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a strange black man standing on the porch. The cops came.
There was nobody there. When the cops came, there was
no signs of breaking an entery, no broken windows, nothing
showing that there was any kind of crime. The cops
went around the back no evidence of a crime, no
evidence of breaking and entering, no broken glass. The cops
decided to open the back door which was unlocked, and
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walk in without a warrant, without knocking and announcing, and
there stood our client in the kitchen and his underwear
with about fifty pounds of cannabis everywhere. He was then
arrested and charged and we are fighting this. We have
filed our motion. The judge took it under submission. This
is about a month and a half ago and the
ruling is going to be coming down. We did a
(34:48):
media motion to get cameras in there. The judge is
allowing audio, so we will be back soon with this ruling,
and we are hoping that we got this case dismissed
because there was an illegal search. There were no exigent
emergency circumstances. And as I said in my closing statement
to the judge, if you rule against us, then it
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is an emergency situation. Now if a black man is
on a porch and the cops get to just walk
into somebody's house. What do you think, Craig and your experiences,
You have a little bit more experience than your brother
in law. And I know it's hypothetical, and I know
you're gonna hurt your elbow reaching, but you now that
you're taking M M. A classes and you're working out harder.
Shouldn't hurt yourself so bad taking a stab at this
(35:33):
one or a punch at this I should say, I
love how you're laughing and just looking at it. Ask question,
what do you think as last time you were like
this never happened? This, judge, this is the first time,
mind you that both of you said this never happened?
What do you think? And I know it's hypothetical regarding
regarding but she's gonna come back and say, and then, Mark,
I want to know what you think. And you know
(35:55):
there's no right or wrong. I just what do you
think She's gonna say? Wait? Wait, you know what I'm
reaching underneath? There was a show set pull out. I'm
pulling out my crystal ball. There we go. That's what
That's what we tell clients exact And I know and
I know it's me. But let's let's say I was
a pundent on a show. And let's say I was
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a pundent on a talk show, right, just right? You know,
I think by her putting it off potentially can show
that she is writing an opinion bulletproof in order to
justify her hopefully dismissing the case. So you think she's
(36:40):
like because of this, that, that, and that is why
it's bullshit and we're gonna let this go and pass
it on because you cannot do what Mark said in
his closing arguments, see a black man on a par
it's basically racial profiling a hunch. The hunch isn't good
enough either. Well, well, if the judge wants to decide
at the cop who said, well, the reason I went
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in is because it's in a high traffic crime area
near a freeway and the Rolling thirties and other gang
black gangs are in that area, which they always say
that that was his reason. In any urban area that
is like part of it's part of the hope. Is
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that a good enough reason? If there's sometimes sometimes to
some judges it is, that's up to the judge. Coupled
with more let's talk about really quick, it's usually dismissed.
What happens. Does he get his back? Fo we do
back for cannabis. No, he doesn't go to jail. That's
so charge it to the games. Charges to the game.
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There's a few bucks. That's the cost of doing business.
If you're not regulated and you're not licensed. He can't
call that personal. Well, you'd have to you'd have to
have a good medical and you'd have to have good injuries. Doctor,
I don't if he didn't have that. If you have that,
that makes up what's called the immunity defense, where you're
proving that you need all that for your own personal
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medical reasons, and you've got doctors and cannabis experts and
everybody coming in to prove that. Can we take those
hundred pounds to extract a depot and have them You
know what, in all seriousness, there are so many cases
that get dismissed for these reasons where illegal searches was
done and they then destroy the cannabis. They destroy it.
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Why not give it to a company to go then
make it to vets patients and yeah, put it through testing,
but don't just destroy it. You know, if it's now now,
there's nothing stopping us from us filing if it gets
dismissed asking for it back. You know why, because there's unfortunately,
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unfortunately to be the same thing. If they had ten
pounds of heroin, we could get the case to Smith
for un llegal for heroin is illegal cannabis, Yes it is,
it is. If you don't have a medical card. If
you have a medical it is illegal. No, it is illegal. First,
(39:17):
the medical card is a defense, just like back in
the day, like your lawyers. Right, we got it, we
got it. Show down and make me look like an idiot.
We gotta tell make it look like an idiot. Just correct. Hey,
we don't have to make you look like an idiot
by yourself. Joe. Now it's the my favorite time of
the show. Let's do it with Andrew Une the Cannabis
(39:40):
Talk one oh one high five, just ceo of extract
your depot and if you're ever in the San Bernardino office,
you can go check out Smokey the Beautiful German Shepherd,
or else you can go see my guy Andrew in
the Manobello office. It is now time Andrew Une for
the high five. How old you the first time you
smoked cannabis? And where'd you get it from? Good question? Um,
(40:06):
he's like, my parents are listening. I think I was
twenty years old? Nice? And where uh in college? In
my buddies basement because we don't have basements here in California. St.
Louis University A good way of figuring that one out.
I was like, what do you mean? Question number two,
(40:29):
what is your favorite way to use cannabis um? I
would say, Dabby, oh, your hardcore less figure, because you
get the best flavor if you have the and if
you do it right with the right tempy machine over
the Question number three of the High five with Andrew Yune,
CEO of Extractor Depot, brought to you by calif X.
(40:53):
Craziest place you've ever used or smoked cannabis um? Probably
on a plane, just like using a eight pen on
the plane. Just get in the bathroom or in your
seat in any ways, all right, that's that's guts, all
right done. Question number four of the Cannabis Talk one
(41:13):
on one High five with Andrew Yune, what is your
go to munchies after you get high? Probably chocolate chip cookies? Nice?
Any particular wife's calling again? Look at you, Craig. You
might have to leave question number five with the High five.
If you could smoke cannabis with anyone dead or alive,
(41:36):
who would it be and why? Snoop DOGG? Yeah dog,
I think it would just be really fun to smoke
a joint with him or G four live has an event,
I can't say, yeah, don't don't be Look, hey, put
your pants out, might be coming out. Maybe it's great man.
(41:58):
You know what though, Andrew, you spent so great hearing
your stories offes. I'm looking at your team over here.
How difficult is it? Are interesting? Is it? What is
that dynamic like putting together a team for an extractor deepote?
Like meaning do they all have to have experience and extracting?
Because I'm looking at all these beautiful young faces on
(42:19):
there from you know, your Ernies or Seans, your Genie,
your Steph, David and Ishmael everybody. What does it take
to be a part of the team there um a
good attitude and hard worker. You know, that's really it,
and we we can teach you everything else. And so
you don't need to know anything coming in. You just
have to have a passion and good attitude and that's
all you really need and we can teach you the rest.
(42:41):
So what if somebody shows up missing four fingers because
they are extracting back in the days at Craig's house
and they lost four knuckles, no one lost any limb,
No one lost any limbs. Well do we miss anything? Man?
Is anything that you want to talk about your company
that then get once again. The website is extractor depot
dot com, which is the letter x t R A
C t O R d E p ot dot com.
(43:04):
Same thing for their Instagram and Facebook, anything else that
you want to promote um. We provide a lot of
training as well for people who are just trying to
learn about the industry. So that's a big part of
what we're working on now is trying to standardize the
extraction field so that this can be more of a
professionally accepted industry because right now, you know, there's no standard,
you don't need certifications. So we're working with the state
(43:26):
to try to bring more legitimacy to the industry by
professionalizing it and standardizing more things. And so now do
you get ship out of the out of the state
and stuff anywhere in the country. Yeah, we we also
ship all over the world, so we have customers in
South Africa that are making stuff right now, Canada, Mexico's
you know, really well going big right now. So we well,
hopefully we see you at the events, man, because I
(43:47):
think what you're doing and everything I see online looks dope,
and I think everybody else will be so interested to
see because just alone like these ma change, You're like, wow,
this is how it's made, right, Like someone's walking around
the pin smoking it. They have no fucking clue on
how it's made exactly. It's important. Yeah, it's really important,
very educational, very informational, and I'm sure a lot of
people will jump on you, guys, but thanks for coming
on the show, bro. Thank you. Well. There it is,
(44:08):
Guys's Cannabis Talk one on one and remember this, if
no one else loves you, we do. Thank you for
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Joe Grande
Marc Wasserman
Craig Wasserman
Christopher Wright (Blue)
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