Art Gallery owners Sinister Karin Brauns & Sinister Monopoly, the gallery is Colorfulsin.

Artist, Actress & Gallery owner Sinister, Karin Brauns www.karinbrauns.com, plus Sinister Monopoly - Pop-Artist former cannabis federal inmate, where Sin started painting in prison 10 years ago. Check out the website sinistermonopoly.com and on IG: sinistermonopoly

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What is it market Foul underscore out? What does it again? Exactly?
Your pal, your underscore pal, underscore out. And the worst
thing is I follow him and I can't remember what
it is all the time. But my point is he's
got such a good ear to hip hop and he's
in our studio all the time. It's part of the
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Our guests on the show. You kind of mentioned culture already.
Our campus here Blue looks never better in my opinion,
with so much artwork all around our beautiful campus. Folks.

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When I say all around, I mean it's in our
game room, it's in our conference room, it's in our patio,
it's on our show set. It is beautiful artwork, man,
I mean big artwork. You guys. We've got sinister Karen Bronze, artists,
actress and gallery owner. Check out the website. Karen Bronze
dot com. And also we have since Sinister Monopoly pop

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artist former Cannabis Federal m hate. What's this story, folks.
The art gallery's name is color Full Sin one word
color CEO L O R F U L S I N.
Where they sell this beautiful fine art folks. Where the
hell of a story that you're gonna hear right now

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behind these artists right here, and when I'm in hell
of an artist, I mean you're gonna love this, folks.
So it's a treat for everybody. Because whoever said you
never learn anything good in prison blue, because this mob
right here started painting in prison ten years ago. Today,
my man sin Sinister Monopoly. Check out the website sin

(02:59):
Ester my monopoly dot com, on in Instagram, Sinister Monopoly.
Welcome lady and gent to Cannabis Talk one oh one
with Glue and Joe. It's a pleasure and we really
appreciate you guys having us on. Thank you so much.
You know what, guy's real quick, I mean we want
to go out to our advanced nutrients patio and uh

(03:22):
take take a look out there at what's going on.
What piece she's outside and uh yeah, one is one
of cards it's my gins. So you know, let's let's
zoom in on those Gremlins over there. I want to
check those guys out real quick, and uh, you know
what inspired this obviously the Gremlins from the Gremlins growing
up as a kid. Is that what I'm to assume, right,

(03:44):
I mean, it looks just like you know what I
noticed on that one right, just real quick, I've seen
one of the Gremlins upside down. He's burning like he
had a joint, look like he was burning a joint,
and he's just like wasted, and it's so dope. It's
just a good vibe. Where with that thing, he's passed out.
He had too much fun, too much to smoke. He's

(04:05):
already passed were already We're already back over here. They're
back on this right, and the gizmo is like right,
red eyes, you know, going for it. So I went
back to Sweden two years ago to my my family
home and I found those like old stickers in my
desk garage and I was shit scared of Gremlin's. When

(04:25):
I was a kid, they were kids, like even the
cute ones, but you know before they're turning to like
the Gremlins, the monsters are right nine and water and
all that stuff. And I saw the sticker, like, wow,
why should you like Gremlins' starting to do that? You
couldn't pour water on them? Right, You're a little bit

(04:48):
to get involved in the cannabis side of things. Yeah,
you know the Starbuds print that I have, it's like
the top selling print. And I was like, carn we
needed you needed your gremlins dispense? Were you cannabist out?
So she went for it, and she she she killed
it on that one. Yeah, and I'll tell you what
you know. Um, you know, I think it's it's it's

(05:08):
interesting because I I feel like sinister, I met you
somewhere and then and then and then I've seen and
I seen your your wife's um, your girlfriend's work, and
and and and I and I said, oh wow that
it reminded me of of something I had already seen,
but it wasn't the same one. So I was like,
oh man, I want to get her on the show,
right because it was very cannabis. It was friendly or

(05:30):
whatever I was looking at. And I was just like,
this is right up our alley. And then and then
you know, and then we met over there there. I'm like,
oh shoot, I was trying to get you there too,
because I really feel like I had geeked out on
your page or something prior. And then you're so here
with his work. Oh yeah, that's how I got him here.
I didn't know. Yeah, No, it was me. I just

(05:50):
started reaching out because I didn't know. Yeah, you know
that good looking out to his good I because your
work is it fits well in my mind, and I
see it and I go, gosh, you know, a lot
of this work will fit well in here, you know.
And I just I see it like on that green wall.
I see it over there, and I just I could
just want to paint something of men that's said. I'm

(06:14):
not a painter, but I did design this building, you know,
And and I feel like it was a good you know,
I have a good eye for a cool ship, you know.
And um, so that's it. I just want there. And
I'm so happy that you explained that because in my
head listeners, I had no clue where they came from
and this and that, and when I say no clue
what we're looking at. Just to give you an example,

(06:35):
if you haven't checked out the website already, and if
you're listening to this show once again, sinister monopoly dot
com to get an idea? Are on? I g the
same one that Blue just said he tweaked out on
and geeked out on because I'm not hit to the click.
And I'm so happy now that I got explain this
this one right here? What's this one right here? So
this one is here? This one is titled Starbuds, okay,

(06:59):
and and and what what does it represent? I mean,
Scrooge McDuck, is that there's my there's my guy, right
and then what else? Who else we got? Or is
that got Mr Burns from the Simpsons Monopoly of course
as starbuds of the Monopoly. I created this during our
lockdown during COVID, during like the real beginning hardcore lockdown,

(07:21):
don't leave your house sort of things. Right, beautiful, thank you.
I mean it looks like if I may something that
you see even like as normal as in every one
of those diners that you can go to. It's like
real art that I've see in a real restaurant style,
like print or this is the actual painting, the one
on on set today as a printing. The print the

(07:43):
original has been sold. It's like one of the hottest
prints out. I've had gallery owners that have been in
business like close to thirty years and saying this is
the best print in their gallery that they've had in
all these years. I mean, it's the monopoly guy behind
a desk at a fucking dispensary with ton a cannabis
hitting in the thing. And it's like a star Bud
Like it's like it's a Starbucks dispensary star Bud thing.

(08:06):
It is so cool and vibe. There's a hot chick
buying cannabis. Are duck kittting some money? I mean the
Louis bag. It's so player. It's just as player like
the whole picture. It's really dope, it really is. It's
just even at the inside trim how you have the
red and the trim like that. I mean, it's just
like the detail and it's fucking awesome, dude, and it's unique. Like, wow,

(08:30):
that's so cool. And let's talk about that right for
a second. So you said you learned I mean, well,
Joe said you had learned how to draw prison. How
did that come about? So in in two thousand and eleven, Um,
I'll go out on a limb and probably say, I
was probably the biggest cannabis dealer in America. So, with

(08:52):
with that being said, so that's a big limb right
there by the way. Yeah, No, so um in two
thousand eleven, it wasn't that long ago. What I was
doing is I was UH I guess curated cannabis um
cush clones and I sent them up to UH Canada
in the Vancouver area to um some people I did

(09:14):
business with, and and we'll just go out and say,
it's like the world's biggest motorcycle club in the world, right,
And so I worked with some of the highest ranking members.
And with with that being said, it wasn't something that
I just worked with one guy. This was a massive
undertaking and I would import anywhere between seventeen two a

(09:36):
thousand pounds a week of indoor hydroponic which I I
took those clones from l A and specifically sent them
across into Canada and say this is what I want
you guys to grow forms that hence the nickname sin
did it come from there? My real name is Jason.
So Ever since a kid, a lot of people have

(09:58):
kind of gone with Sinister or sin It's like Sinister,
like Okay, I could see how it comes. But okay,
it wasn't because the bad boys sh it. It just
happened to be just some quotable because of how you
say your name exactly. So, Um, I became a painter.
While I was incarcerated in federal prison back in two
thousand eleven, I operated three airplanes, and out of those airplanes,

(10:21):
I was sending it to eleven different states. Right, it
would come in from Canada, we would like truck it
down into you know, some areas of like northern California.
And then I purchased my own airplanes. I wasn't a pilot,
but I did, you know, recruit pilots, and then those
pilots would take it to Chicago, Detroit, Atlanta, New York, Ohio,

(10:42):
all across America. I was flooding America with hydroponic couch.
So let me let me ask you this, because I'm
about I'm I'm I'm about to maybe, Um, it was
coming from Canada, right, So if it was coming from Canada,
you were probably working with three people. I don't want
to put all their times out there because they're not here.
But was it packaged really flat? Absolutely? And then it

(11:03):
was super compressed and then it was shipped over here right, Yes,
it was. Okay, I know a lot of those guys
I worked. I worked with a lot of those guys,
and I just was getting out of the game around
two thousand, two thousand eleven um, and they were just
getting incrustrated. So did you just get out? Did you
just get out two years ago? Yeah, I've been out
a little over close to three. Now I know the
whole team. I know, I know a lot of the team. Yeah,

(11:25):
absolutely so. Once I kind of in rooted in Canada,
then they started passing me off to other Canadians because
I was rolling so hard and heavy. They at one
point even started utilizing my airplanes to transport another juicy fruits,
the juicy sugar, the Bubba Bubba, all that stuff. Okay,

(11:46):
so I know that whole team. It's great. The way
that I procured the clones here in l A. I
would I would take BC Bud around l A and
sometimes people would criticize and go, oh, it's just BC,
And then they would show me something and I was like,
huh interesting. And then I sat at this trapper's house
one day and watched him sell um Kush for this

(12:06):
out astronomical amounts. I mean it was like seven thousand
a pound, right, And I was like, how is this possible? Right?
And I beg these people, I need these clones, and
nobody would come off them, and I finally just threw
money at somebody. I was able to get fifty clones,
and I sent him up to Canada and was telling
I'll pay more, and they were like, oh, you don't
have to pay more, just move more. And I was

(12:29):
like done, so I just then next thing, you know,
I was waiting and waiting. I started getting upset and
I was like, did you guys give what I gave
you to someone else because it's not coming yet. A
couple of times they would ride on the bag and
they started titling it Yankee cush, and I was like, no,
that's not what I gave you. And then one day
only like five or six showed up in the pack

(12:49):
of a you know a few hundred, and I was like,
that's the one. Let's do that. And then next thing
you know, it's like three hundred, five hundred, four hundred
steady clockworks and all the time time, yeah, and it
just it just started shooting it out of town. That's
that's an amazing story right there. Oh it's funny because
I you do that, you know, you know the people,

(13:11):
you know, the package that comes from this. That guys,
some of them have been on the show. One of
the guys is on the show. Um and then uh
oh the one the hockey bag, the hockey back guy.
Hockey bags. That's funny. So I used a hockey back guy. Yeah,
I remember hockey. Yeah. I was not someone just the

(13:31):
other day I wouldn't even go to downtown l A
and purchase my own like massive like hockey bags by
the bulk. And I remember carrying a bunch out to
the truck and the owner there's like, what do you
do with all these Duffel bags? Because when I would
shoot them out to the bags don't come back right now. Yeah,
they're gone, everything's gone. Shooting them out And I was like, oh, yeah,
you know, I sell these bags at the swap me

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and he's like, oh, good for you, you know. So
So here's here's the funnier part is that I got
So I got letters from the Feds about this whole thing,
because this is a federal case, right, I actually got
letters from the Feds on this case said to me
that said I was I was beating. Then my phone
was tapped and I was involved in sometimes this was
I was from Mexico. Yeah, it was from Mexico. It

(14:13):
was from Canada and Mexico into the US and that
was the ring. So I went through Mexico as well. Yeah,
and I got the letter that said I was that
I was being you know, chat but I had I
had went into public speaking. I started public speaking um
with the with the TV show in two thousand and ten.
So when that when that happened, I ended up on
the TV show and I was like, you know, traveling.

(14:34):
I had my boys kind of you know, trying to
do everything for me, and then I was just kind
of like you know, and every corner I turned, it
was just like okay, you know, unless it was my brother,
it was like, you know, there was missing money all
the time or missing something was going wrong, and I'm
just like, this is fucking whack. We call some owens
for that. Yeah, and then I know, but it's just
like and I have the yeah, yeah, we had all those,

(14:57):
but it's just it was too much of a headache.
So I started exiting away from it and and then
you know, on lo and behold here we are. But
that was that was a big part of my history
for like your you guys, this whole team. I didn't
I didn't realize that. That's freaking awesome, dude. It makes
it even more interesting to think that that was you
that was doing that right right really quickly. Uh. In
reference to the packaging, so I would have almost essentially

(15:20):
board meetings at like UFC. The Canadians would come in
and sometimes they would like say, we would meet in
like a conference table, but we put all the phones
in a different room, off the batteries out and jump
in the pool. Yeah. And so it was like myself
the only American and then the rest, and they were
there to ask me like how can we package? What

(15:40):
can we do? They were there to like you, no,
just for to like cater to myself. They had sent
me a massive load that had lettuce, like one piece
of lettuce and everyone and the whole load was ruined,
and I was like, who did that? Whose idea wasn't
to put a thing of lettuce in like hundreds of pounds? Right?
And so they we have essentially like a board meeting.

(16:02):
And then so when the packaging would come down. It
had a number on it, like let's just say my
number was one seventy six, and they would and then
it was wrapped in like a colored electrical tape. So
my tape might be like red with number one seventy six,
but there might be green tape on board, blue tape.
And then all of these different tapes and and things.

(16:23):
That was our That was our cataloging, our archiving, who's
getting what? When it eventually made it into Seattle, man,
you know this is this is such an interesting story.
When to come back? Yeah, I want to hear more. More, dude,
I could just go down the line. I mean, geez,
can we hear from your lady and shut up for
a minute. I just kidding. But you know what, dude,

(16:46):
this is great. I swear to God geek out on you.
We'll check it out. Guys. It's Cannabis Talk one on one.
We'll be right back after this break. We'll be right
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(17:23):
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We're here at the Cannabis Talk one on one campus
with of course the artist, the actress, the gallery owners
Sinister Karen Bronze and sin Sinister Monopoly. The gallery is colorful,

(17:49):
sin and Blue lo bless just with their beautiful artwork
all around the gallery. You know what I'm gonna do.
I'm gonna like, get him so high and drunk they're
gonna forget it all and they're gonna leave. Yeah, and
that's my goal. Could happen, that's my goal. I don't
know if they could hear. I'm just telling you because
I like their stuff so much. I never act like,

(18:09):
oh I like this because these cans on the table
are so they're they're amazing. Like the little things that
you guys do. And we're looking around our campus to
think we have this around you make it look beautiful. Yeah,
thank you for that. Than you And to think we
have something going on in our game room right now?
What is that piece that you guys did in the

(18:29):
game because it's huge, it's damn near the size of
the ping pong table that the girls are playing ping pong.
That's what that's all right? Sorry, Mark Carnes is all
in my head. Jeez, Karen, tell him about that card.
Tell us please, I love the name. By the way, Karen,

(18:51):
what a beautiful name. Thank you. I don't want a Caaren.
I'm a car in a car in love this in
before we get to the piece, though, what did your
parents tell you that ever meant? And how did that
kind I'm so interested? Well, coming from Sweden, that's kind
of coming. That's a common name. Old common name doesn't

(19:18):
mean anything like common. It actually means clean. Nothing clean.
I mean, yeah, it's a little clean lady, talk about
your clean beautiful artwork. That okay, I'm gonna talk about
my clean artwork. So it's my latest one. It's you know,

(19:39):
the life Guard towers at Monhanna Beach. Fantastic. We like
the California beaches, right, I mean, come on, everybody loves it.
And Garfield is fun. He's a little bit like all
the place. And then we have the pink panther, which
is more like, oh I got this, So they kind
of having a battle of painting that. So it's like

(20:02):
you have the lifeguard towel, but it's like Garfield versus
pink panther having this little bat. Yeah, yeah, how do
you come up with that? I always curious when artists
like come up with something like that, you know what
I mean, Like, it's so cool and it's to me
you ready for this? I lived very close to Manhattan

(20:23):
Beach at one point, right exactly, so I used to
run on the trail right there to Culver City, right,
but I lived there Marina del Rey, So the down
that trail right there, and I used to go down
the bike right So I feel like I feel where
that location is. So when you painted that location, I
got to feel with an empty background, which was it
just was cool. Right. You did a well job with

(20:44):
it right painting the location. I've seen the location as
my point. I felt that, But where do you put
the one to the left, one to the right, the
way they're vibing? Like, how does that come to you?
Like that? It's so cool? Thank you. I'm a lucid dreamer,
like I remember a lot of my dreams and stuff,
and I get a lot of visions. So my kind

(21:04):
of meditation is when i'm even in the morning, go running.
When I'm sleeping, I'm seeing things and I like to
put especially my newer artwork. I like to create things
that doesn't exist anywhere. You know, even if I see
like a girl field, I want to put it in
his own motion or whatever. So I get those like

(21:25):
weird thoughts, and I think, why not put it on
a canvas and even color? To me, it's many meaningful.
Like I left my country, Sweden when I was eighteen,
so I lived in so many countries before New Zealand, Australia, Finland,
Greek Islands, you name it. I came here ten years ago,
didn't Yeah, I didn't know an American soul. So I

(21:48):
think my experience of not having anyone putting things in
my thought, and you know, meeting new cultures and people
and interrupt in their lives may me. You know, just
envision makes you the beautiful person that you are in
the clean soul that you have, Karen, which is in

(22:12):
I'll tell you about car and I again. I you know,
when I seen your work, I I love it. You know,
it's just it just geeked out on your whole page,
you know, and and you know I find that, you know,
there's there's a lot of artwork out there, but as
you see, you know, we we designed are very colorful
and very you know, vibrant, just energy and and you know,

(22:35):
I know I I relate very much with you. Um
when you tell me that, you know, I see those
things because I see that ship too. I see things
in myself. You can't lay it down and draw it
out like I can't draw it, but I'll get it
done though I know a few people they can and
and so and and and so. That's the thing. It's like,

(22:55):
you know, when when I was putting this wall together,
you know, I think it was Joe that was like,
that's not to look good. And I was like, dude,
you're gonna have to You're gonna have to let like,
you're gonna have to deal with me on this because
I felt it, you know, and I go when it
was on the screen, it was too small. And then
he was like remember and then he was like and
I was like, whole this whole wall. He goes that

(23:16):
thing looks I don't like it, and I go, dude,
wait to you see it on the wall though, you know,
And we started talking about the wall and it was
just kind of like, you know, and it's he's telling
me you don't like it. That'd be the best crush
right now. By the way, if you both as lartists going,
I just want to tell you, well, here's that would
be the best for me. Here's the thing hold on
honestly for me, I like it though, so now I

(23:38):
like it a lot to crush both of us. And
when I'm telling people, I was going to go with
the green and the blue and the because I gotta
orange doors and stuff. I mean, people are like, you're crazy,
But fairness, this look is very colorful, like your guys
just look because everything your designs, I feel like I
agree with what you're alluding to. Blue. It's that pop color, vibrant, strong, beautiful, artistic, beautiful, different, creative,

(24:08):
like wow, I didn't see this comic bookie ish with
a twist of real life field Manhattan Beach family vibe
ish but yet fucking like just fireballs too, and all
cannabis vibe field too. It's so funny cool. If if
I could interject on this one, so I myself like

(24:29):
the character from the movie Blow, I grew up in
Manhattan Beach, George. He's a friend of mine on the
show Beach, so very literally born rays. I went through
every school in Manhattan Beach. Karna and I partnered up
on an art gallery in Manhattan Beach, and so we

(24:49):
started seeing artists and and stuff around Manhattan Beach and
what people, you know, curate for their own personal homes,
and oftentimes it's it's a sunset, it's a wave, it's
a lifeguard tower. But for the most part, it's oftentimes
like photography. So I was kind of telling car and like, hey,
you know, to kind of you know, represent you know,

(25:09):
Manhattan Beach within our art gallery and the people that
appreciate things, but to stay a little different. We don't
want to have a gallery that's traditional. And so she
came up with that and I was like, that's pretty sick.
And it's kind of like they're, you know, two graffiti
artists crossing each other out battling on the lifeguard tower.
Now do you guys get beef from the the owners

(25:30):
of you know, monopoly or any of that stuff where
you just change it And how does that work? I mean,
does that is that core? Yeah? I know, so currently,
you know, I have done a little research on you know,
what cannon can't be done, and as of right now,
it's just it's the it's a green light. You know,
it's I'm not trying to make a monopoly board, although
I do. I do paint, you know, mischievous, uh, you know,

(25:52):
bad behavior and so um you know, who knows if
if that day will come. But uh, in the meantime,
we're just we're just going for it. I love it,
you know, and for me, it makes it more valuable,
you know. I you know, it's like black black black markets,
the permission to that way. And and and here's the thing, guys,

(26:13):
I mean you know, um, for me, I I think
it's flattery. It should be flattery, right, It's it's more
and it's making it more popular, and it looks beautiful
and and like I said, for you know, the thought
process of this artwork again, when I stop and look
at it, man, to me, it's just it's it's it's
well thought out and and and and it's very clean,
your guys, work is just very clean. And you know,

(26:35):
even the the details to like there's little things that
like you have to really be here to see it.
But I'm trying to explain to people like like they're
in a dispensary, right and and this is the Starbuds one.
But you can see the the uh my headphones one out,
but you could see the uh I know, I know, yeah,

(26:57):
so that you can see the actual mirror this stuff
on the mirror, um the yeah, the of the glass right,
and then on the joint that was outside on the Gremlins,
for example, you could see the joint, and the actual
joint looks puffed out at you, and it looks like
it's it's it's in three dimensional, you know, it's and
I mean I'm looking at this artwork and I started

(27:17):
diving into it, and I'm like, damn, you know, you know,
Felix has rolled over and he's got a joint burning
off his tail, and and it's just like there's so
many little things and that are that are more than
just the oh you know, I drew a picture you know,
to it almost but not only what he painted though,
which is even you elaborate one more step blue, because

(27:38):
everything you did with such a visual painting. But what
I'm looking at actually looks like I'm fucking looking on
TV on this painting of a can, Like it looks
like the canon is at TV. And it's like, is
that paint artwork stitched on? Like? What is this? Is
that a like a light up. I mean, it's just
more than just artwork and pain and loss, Like I

(28:02):
feel like it's deception, like because that's it's depth within
this picture as well, where you're like deceived of Wow,
this is so beautifully designed. It almost looks like around
canned TV. I love them, you know what I mean,
Like I would I want some like this is so
like different and I've never thought of it. I've never

(28:24):
seen it anywhere. I've never sure. That's one thing that
we do try to emphasize that we do try to
create a uniqueness rather than just kind of jumping on
what everyone else is doing. It's so we're gonna come back.
We're to talk a lot more about this, you guys.
We've got the high five with these two. I want
to talk more about ten years in prison and what
the first painting was that led to all this. It's

(28:46):
Cannabis Talk one o one with Blue and Joe Grande,
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(29:16):
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They are the best, right you guys want to thank
everybody in this building that's helping us out, from the
girls over there at the bar sitting down having shot
to our whole staff. Daniel cal Eric Christian a Christian,
asked Danny p Funk. And by the way, folks, p
Funk he has an amazing tribute that he did to

(29:57):
prints today that he put up online out out to
It's Prince's birthday today to the best. Yeah, man, it's
Prince's birthday and and and you know, I'll tell you
pe Funk has been working diligently on this beautiful It's yeah.

(30:19):
When I say, got to give the right website. If anybody,
did anybody notice punks hat. He's rocking the hat today.
He's rocking a Prince hat. He's in the Cannabis talk
one on campus, but he's out on the patio. Please
tell him to come over and hear you guys, as
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(30:42):
Ali Pitt, Chris, Frank, Kino, Jennifer and Elvis. But as
you heard me staff today, thank you guys, you see
you guys, and the dog too. We want to thank
the dogs. I love her Punk. I was talking about
your tribute that you did on Prince's birthday. What is
the Instagram post that they can see that wonderful tribute?
I Underscore Purple Underscore project. It again, Underscore Purple Underscore project.

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You guys, when it comes to cannabis, the room lights
up when you say purple. Yeah, and all bullshit aside.
Hear me now, believe me. Later, I got a chance
to watch this Blue, and I don't know if you
have his video that he produced for Prince's birthday that
he created is a masterpiece of artists. Okay when you

(31:33):
see that, I mean it is so dope. It's taken
him months and heart. Yeah. I'm so happy you talked
to him because I got a chance to hear his
full story. Blue, do yourself a favorite spent fifteen twenty
minutes to hear the true compact back the love and
passion that comes from p Funk when he did, it's
very similar to what you guys are doing, you know.
And while we're shouting, people shout out to the Blacklist

(31:55):
is in the building, y'all, Yeah, Blacklist love you love
you right there, you know, And yeah exactly. But as
you're back here with all the artists over here, Sin
and of course your lovely uh lovely sinister cut car
in And as I said before we went to break Sin,

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what was the first one in prison? And what led
you to pick up a pencil and get some colors? Like?
How do walk me through from the because I'm imagining
it's pencil first, like you tell me? Sure? So I
ended up starting UM my artistic you know, UM creative
abilities while I was incarcerated in federal prison. They have

(32:38):
UM programs there. They they even when you have what's
called the case manager, they have all these people that
oversee you. And one day in my case manager, on
a regular meeting, he said, hey, you're not programming, which
is another word for taking classes, so you know, you
have to do your routine. And so in tim me,

(33:00):
I'm like, yeah, Okay, I'm in prison, I'm gonna take
school classes like alright, guy, and so yeah, and so
he was like you have to do it, blah blahlah.
So I was looking on one of the bulletin boards
and there was a um An oil painting class, and
so I signed up for the oil painting class and
they had um I served the substantial amount of my

(33:21):
time here in San Pedro, California at a facility called
Terminal Island. Shout out to everyone that's in Terminal Island
at the chow hall, the cannabis inmates. We need to
do something to get these people out. But on another note,
so they did have a hobby shop and I didn't paint,
you know, inside of my cell. So when I signed
up for them the oil painting class, I was like

(33:43):
this is cool. And they're like, hey, you know, you
can get on a waiting list and you can get
a hobby locker, and through that locker it allows you
to purchase like paint canvas brushes through commissary. You're only
allowed there is a spending limit. So unfortunately I had
to sometimes like do I buy groceries or do I
buy paint brushes? So what what I was doing is

(34:05):
I would put have my family put money on other
people's commissary books and say hey, you buy me are
and I'm buying groceries. So I was kind of even
high on the hog right, So um, I took some
loyal painting classes, got my name on the list, and
eventually got a hobby locker. I started purchasing canvas and
paint and um, I saw something one day on TMZ

(34:28):
about another pop artist who was doing like monopolies genre
type of stuff and and that moment I didn't see
what the art was and he said he was selling
them for you know, thirty to sixty thousand. So on
my like standard called home to my mom, I was like, hey,
my mom was like my Google when I said I
need an art reference, so I couldn't. I didn't have

(34:50):
access to the internet. So I was like, hey, I
saw this guy on TV. He's an artist, can you
you know, send me in some of the stuff. And
so it was monopoly, but it was very like E G. Right,
and I thought, you know, through my background, why not
make the monopoly in like a trap house. So I
started experimenting and it just became fun. So other inmates

(35:11):
would ask me, hey, sin can you paint, you know,
a portrait of myself with my wife or my kid
or my girlfriend, And you know that's cool, like developing
my skills, and I would somewhat do that. Eventually, I
just started painting strictly for myself, and I started having
fun with the Monopoly character, and I thought, you know,

(35:32):
I started doing research on um, you know, artists and
and they do like series and collections, and initially I
thought I was using my my government name, and I
just thought, you know, I'll just create a collection or
a series and I'll call it Sinister Monopoly. And it
just became so much fun. So I painted in public,
and when I mean public, like in the yard of

(35:54):
the prison. Any inmate could come through and just kind
of hang out and watch, right, And so I started
doing it and it became fun oftentimes popular too. Absolutely
inmates would come by and just start laughing like, oh
my god, that's all hilarious. You gotta do this and
make his arm that and do that. And so it
just was more something that I would rather paint something

(36:17):
that's fun. Did they let you leave the star? They
let you leave the prison with all that, So they
have what's called Every Wednesday, as they call they have
a mail out, which is ironically as uh an inmate,
I'm not allowed to I'm not allowed to have cardboard, right,
but I'm allowed to mail things out? So how do
I get a cardboard box? How do I mail something that?

(36:40):
Like every now that I'd have to like dig through
the trash or go somewhere, and like, I need to
get a cardboard I got at this painting I did,
and I would walk from the north yard to the
south yard and a guard might stop me, Hey, what
are you doing that cardboard? And I'm like, hey, man,
I got a mail out tonight, you know. And so uh,
they had a mail out every Wednesday. And it was
funny because we're only allowed to use stamp and so

(37:00):
sometimes I was sending stamps on you're kidding me, seriously.
I would literally have like sixty or seventy Mexican map yeah,
and so um, eventually, when I did, I was kind
of like a precursor, like setting myself up, knowing in
my head I'm gonna be I'm gonna make a run
for an artist. So eventually, um, other inmates would come

(37:23):
to me and say, paint for me. And I told him, Nope,
I don't. I don't paint for inmates. I only paint
and I'm sending him home for like a kickstart to
my my career. So when I was in a halfway house,
and the funny thing is it was Marvin Gardens and Watts,
which is a monopoly property Gardens, so I was in

(37:43):
the house and spiritually and of course the federal federal
federal prison. While I was at Marrin Gardens, they would
take of whatever I would make. So I would go
to the bank and I started having even when I
would go get a cashier's check. They were like monopoly
Marvin Gardens, like what you know, almost yeah, yeah. I

(38:06):
literally had about a hundred and twenty paintings at my
father's house. And while I was out pretty early on
almost maybe like three weeks, an art gallery and I
never had social media prior to my incarcetration, and I
was trying to like learn Instagram. Here I'm in Watts,
not allowed to leave the halfway house, and an art
gallery was like, hey, this is cool. How much is it?

(38:27):
And so in my head I started thinking, well, this
other guy is getting like thirty sixty thousand, So I
shot him this crazy price. He's like, oh, that's like
exceeding my you know, price point within my gallery. And
I was like, okay, cool. And then I thought about
it and I wasn't at that time allowed to leave
the halfway house. I was still confined, and I thought,
you know what, I'm just gonna call this guy. And

(38:48):
so I called him and asked to speak to him.
And I was like, hey, check this out. You know,
I'm in a halfway house. I'm here from prison, and
this is my story. And he's like, m do we
like share this information with the world. And I was like,
it's not a heinous crime, it's not a bad crime.
Let's embrace it. So he was like absolutely. So he
told me it's like, can you come to the gallery.

(39:10):
I had to get permission through my case manager. They
allowed me to go, and I showed up at this
person's gallery like seventy paintings, and I think he was
like he was thinking I was going up with and
so I showed up with seventy Like what are we doing?
You know, I'm here. I plugged me up, you know,
And so he was like, hey, can you come and
paint live in the gallery? And it just so happened.

(39:32):
It was like after Black Friday, like the Saturday after
you know, the shopping extravaganza for Christmas shopping, and so
again I had to get permission from the Halfway House,
and I got permission to go on a Saturday, although
I had already left about seventy paintings like on a Monday,
so they had already sold a number of paintings before

(39:52):
the Saturday. Just me going to like tinker around and paint,
and the gallery owners texted me when are you gonna
be here? And I was like, oh, I'm on, I'm
in the car, I'm on my way, and he's like,
people are waiting, and I just thought, okay, people are waiting.
Like I didn't think much of it. When I got there,
there was like a line of people that purchased my
artwork and they were like you're amazing. We want an autograph,
we want pictures. And I was like taken back, like

(40:16):
like I I was like a preminie, absolutely completely gone.
And so I had taken this negative of a prison
and I just I fought every day and I painted
every single day in prison. There was not a day
that I just was like, you know, what I'm not
gonna paint today because I had worked on your craft.
You worked on your business every day. Yeah, and then

(40:37):
so I'm a I oftentimes clown. So I'm in the
hobby shop and the same crew of homies are in there,
and we would always just bust jokes on each other
and and so I just had fun and in even
in prison, like so I eventually got into it. I
started out with they call it with your car, when
you run with your race. I started with the whites.

(41:00):
And I had a problem with this guy who ordered
like five paintings for his kids for Christmas. And I
was like, boom, boom boom, And this is what led
me to stop painting for inmates. He was like slow
paying me, and I was like, oh no, this is
like in prison. He owed me fourteen hundred dollars and
so it was like, you know, I was like, hey,
I got shoot me a store list. You know, I'll

(41:22):
shoot you a store list so you can pay me back.
It's like, yeah, shoot me one for forty bucks. And
I was like forty dollars, Like what am I gonna do? Dude?
You owe me? Like it was like twelve or four hundreds.
So it became an issue. Long story short is I
ended up having to like not having to, but I
eventually swapped over and ran with the Southsiders, which is

(41:42):
not like a Paisa, but it's a Mexican that's traditional
Latino gang members. So they knew that I was beefing
with the whites and having problems within Yeah, so they
came to me and they said, hey, we checked you out,
we ran your stuff, We've looked you up. You can
run with us. And I looked at him, like, wow,

(42:05):
this is crazy because I just got into a fight
with these guys, and and some of the Whites were
defending the dude who owed me money because he was
going no, he was he was kind of like a
Bernie made off on his case. He was around taking
ship tons of money from people on investments and then
spending it on his own like I'm gonna buy a
car with Blues money. So he was one of those dudes,

(42:26):
and he was going around in order to kind of
like um fit in. He was fronting out you know,
like drugs in the community that he would get, you know, maths,
be whatever it was, and all these things are available
within the federal system. And he was shooting him to
all of the people. So some of those people took
his side because yeah, they were getting tope off the guy.

(42:49):
And I was like, nah, like this dude needs to
be regulated. Most of the time. What regulated in prison
would mean is that you would take him into the
shower and then he gets beat up from the way
down for like seconds, a minute, whatever the case was.
So when the Southsiders came to me and I was like, hey,
I really respect you guys. I eventually said, well, let's meet.

(43:09):
I went and sat down on their table their TV room,
and they came to me and one of them said, dude,
you're with us. We represent you, We got you. Fuck
them anything those guys have, they got a problem with
all of us. And when he said that, I was like, man,
that's a lot of love, because some of the other
guys were um on the fence, like who do they
cool with the dude that's given him the drugs or

(43:31):
the dude that's rightfully owned money because I sent his
kids artwork home for Christmas? What's right as right? Player? Yeah,
right as right? So you ran with the homies, yeah,
and and then and then can you finish the story
to anything I like the story. It's a great story.
I don't know what happens, so, I mean, I guess
I don't know where I was going with that portion

(43:52):
of it, but it was just get your money. No, well,
actually no, he checked in. He like what they is
PC up. All of a sudden, one day, somebody came
to guards and said, you're going to the shoe, which
is a shoe. It's an acronym for special holding units
on lockdown. So one of the reasons why the homies

(44:14):
approached me is because he owed like five or ten
thousand on the yard to those guys, and they're like,
we know what he's doing, Like he's trying to get
a conflict, so he can automatically kind of go to
the shoe without it looking like a check in. Yeah,
you know what I mean. But at Terminal Island, it's
so weird that they have hardly any cameras. So you

(44:35):
can go in multiple places on the prison and fight
and no one's gonna see, you know, and or die. Yeah, absolutely,
it's prison, right all right, So so lucky and you know,
I want to jump into the high five with you guys,
So you ready to hit the road with this I'm
absolutely ready to hit that. That's just your story due

(44:56):
to want to get their their places color full sense
ce l O R f U L s I N
in Manhattan Beach, Southern California for coming down here and
check it out. We'll have a full episode on on
YouTube where you can where our listeners can go watch
and check out some of the artwork and and and
definitely go go find the links and stuff like that,

(45:18):
because you guys am telling you this, These these two
have some amazing, amazing Well it's a treat for your eyes.
For your eyes, you want to take your eyes go
look at this what we just said, because it's a
treat for Blue. Thank you for finding them. You know,
your listeners also might want to thank Blue for so
as if they get in on what we call early

(45:40):
on our artwork, you know, doing a little forward thinking,
which I often times like to do. Is uh, you know,
our evaluation of these artworks. We're nothing but going up,
you know what I mean. And it's just a matter
of time before you know, maybe I'm on like a
Netflix or something a documentary and these things are no
longer the current price that they are. Well, your story

(46:02):
and what and what it is is is today's price
is not tomorrow's price, not yesterday's price, but one last
day too before we do go to the High five.
Is you know, I think there's a um, you know,
opportunity that here because one of the guys from aspired
that was here, that that had his um you know,
he he was talking to you gave your her in

(46:24):
the uh car interest and purchasing about the interesting purchasing
it right. But but no, what he was telling me
is he said he works with um. Um. Did I
miss something? What I missed? Yeah, I didn't say that.
I said, didn't say that right? Everything that okay? Uh,
I said, Karen, okay, all right? Well um, but anyways,

(46:47):
the going into the to that is he said, hey,
you know I work with a lot of these artists
and they have a beautiful facility as well. And he said,
I put up a lot of artwork in our place
and then we we have people um come in and
then ask about it and I say, hey, it's for sale,
and then they'll sell it there for the artist. And
so you know I thought about too. I mean, we

(47:08):
could probably sell some artwork here. We have you know,
a really like high end clientele. To come through here.
I mean we we did, um uh what was it
fort twenty here and the police came and they were like,
you know, the lady pulls up out front. She's like, hi, Christopher, right,
She's she walks up and she's like, hey, I just
want to ask you. She's like, you know, I've never

(47:29):
seen so many beautiful cars in this neighborhood. You know,
there's Rolls, Royces Ferraris. I mean, there's just just an
enormous amount of you know, client, tell here's what's going on.
I'm like, oh, we're having an event. And I walked
her through the whole place, and we've talked about the
story on the air before. But um, you know, there
are a lot of business owners here. Um, you know,
I mean there's you know right now, there's the people

(47:51):
as we speak here, there's plenty of there's plenty of
money here too. And I just think there's a lot
of people that have the taste for this kind of
artwork and would love to see it in their home
or their own collections or even their offices. So absolutely so,
carn And I almost as like a graffiti artist. You say,
you want to get up on that wall, you know
what I mean, and you want to have your name.
So that's essentially like what it's all about for us

(48:13):
as artists, get it out there, you know. So absolutely, So,
what what Karn and I have been doing recently is
so some of the cannabis Um dispensaries, through their licensing,
they're not allowed to actually sell products that are outside
of cannabis. But what they are doing to kind of
circumvent that and super superseded, let's say, is that they'll

(48:35):
they'll feature our art on the wall with a little
QRC code which goes directly to you know, whether it's PayPal, Venmo,
cash app. So they're paying the artists directly as opposed
to like, oh, I'm gonna go buy this from the
dispensary at the cashier and I'm also purchasing art. So
UM actually had some some great news this morning. I

(48:57):
just spoke to somebody that actually owns Starbuds, one of
my good buddies that I used to He was able
to make the transition of becoming from the gray markets. Yeah,
so my friend owns the federal trademark and the name
star Starbuds. Yeah, I love it. And so, uh, one
of the things I'll be doing. I leave to Seattle

(49:18):
on Thursday. I'll be setting up at least like six
to start off with dispensaries as art galleries and like
fast forwarding into the future. We would like for like
myself to be like synonymous. When you think of like
Cypress Hill, you think of cannabis, cheech and chong cannabis, right,
so my art is very cannabis. So we want to

(49:38):
essentially take what we're doing and have like conceptualize every
dispensary in America cannot only sell cannabis, but now they
can feature artists like myself and still be a part
of like, you know, the the genre. Let's say, right,
so to put some car in and let's go. Because
you guys are at every dispense you there is, it's
beautiful artwork. Yeah, so absolutely we could furnish you guys out,

(50:01):
check the walls, make some cool pieces, even make it
to where it's so great on today's technology where someone
could walk up to that piece, no one has to
even talk to him, and they could say, oh, dude,
I can pay for it right here. Let me just
letting blue, No I bought it, you send me a
text from I just bought this blue. I sent it
to sins Venmo. Thank you so like the technology, she said, yeah,

(50:27):
the technology car in the cash so so great. You
know they didn't have that to my pre incarceration. You know,
nobody was really doing these cash apps. I was just
talking about that. It's like the whole the whole world.
The banks had to jump on. Yeah, it was over,
like they were gonna lose everything because now you can
leave your money in those two So you can leave

(50:47):
it in cash app, and you can leave it in
zell and you can leave it in these different places.
It made you where the world's it's it's moving. I'm
just still happy about email. I didn't I went to college,
I didn't have email. I gradually like, whoa, It's like,
you know when you come out, you didn't have these things.
Now let's go to the High five. You guys go
to this gallery. We have the artist, the actress, the
gallery owners Sinister Karen Bronze, car In Bronze and Sin

(51:13):
Minister monopoly. Of course the gallery is colorful. Sin. Question
number one, we'll start with ladies. First, car In you'll
answer it, and then Sin you'll answer right after her.
The same question. Question number one. How old you the
first time you spoke to cannabis? Where'd you get it from? Oh?
I was too passed. I was twenty one. I was

(51:34):
in Australia with my ex boyfriends older sisters Auntie and
aunt good time. So really quickly what kind of bud
did they have in Australia? A hydro? Well? I was
like what is this? I was, you know, coughing and

(51:56):
puffing and I'm like okay, and I just felt like paralyzed,
I cannot move sep kind of thing. It's my first experience. Yeah,
did you like it? I'm kind of hyper already, so
it was kind of a weird feeling, but I liked it.
It was fun? Yeah? Nice? What so interesting? Lee Enough?

(52:17):
So I grew up in Manhattan Beach. On my block
was you know, like one of the older kids from
the neighborhood. He's literally like six or seven houses down.
I'm maybe like sixteen or seventeen, probably getting ready to
become like a freshman, but making the transition, and he
was already a couple of grades older than myself, and uh,

(52:37):
we just started kind of hanging out because his house
was like on my block. He would hang out and
so we started smoking at his house. He was already
like an avid, you know, cannabis person on a daily
like most of us. But he introduced to me and
I remember like I had recently got my driver's license.
Back then, it was all into like mini trucks, right,
and so I had the little Mazda beach and it's

(53:02):
all dump and I remember being like super lit and
we were like, let's go cruising. Back then it was
more about like cruising on a Friday Saturday night, and
we went to Ridano Beach, which was called the Esplanade.
Back then you're allowed to like cruise. Now they've kind
of like rectified that and booted out all the cruisers.
So I remember just being like super lit getting in

(53:22):
the car, like just the experience of you know, being
a youngster and like an older you know high school
or like hey do this, But the the actuality was um.
So my dad was also um. He wasn't like a
cannabis person, but he was a smoker, so as I
would come. So my parents divorced very early on when

(53:44):
I was maybe like kindergarten. But my dad had I
have a brother, and he had um so like every
other weekend, we would go to my dad's house. And
I can remember remember the old school, people had TV
trays in front, like at the house. People probably don't
know that, like a little train and just like a
little table, right, So I can remember my dad had
like mounds of weed, just personal though not like selling,

(54:08):
and he would smoke and then I would like, man,
that smells so good, you know. So it was always
in my head. And then even when um, I eventually
was like staying at my dad's house, like very early on,
like sixteen fifteen, UM my dad had his stash like
really high in the kitchen, like above the refrigerator. I
was always wondered, like where is It's no, he's smoking.

(54:32):
I know he's smoking, and it's in here somewhere, and
I'm searching high and low the house. And one day
when I found it was like jackpot, you know. So
I started raiding my dad's stash. And I remember one
day my dad's an entrepreneuri owned some dry cleaners. He
had come home for the day and my friends and
I were in the bedroom smoking and it was all
smoked at we're probably like sixteen, and he was like,
what are you guys doing in here, and we're like, uh,

(54:55):
because he didn't say much. He's like, you guys, just
get out of here, go find something to do, you know,
somewhere else. It was. It was kind of in rooted
within my you know, my bloodlines, but also you know,
right down the street from my house in Manhattan Beach.
Question number two of the High five what is your
favorite way to use or smoke cannabis? Young lady? I

(55:18):
like to eat chocolates or the good toffees edible? No way? Yeah, high?
Does low doos where you at high? Actually? I usually
eat too much of him nice, So the day after
it's not that fun. Sleep, I can like eat a
whole package and then yes, and it's not great. Does

(55:42):
it doesn't hit you that hard? Already hit you super,
I'm out nice? Knock you out? Yea, knock me out. Yeah.
There's a there's a collector of ours that owns an edible.
Oh it's so good. I can see it brought us
some and Carl was like, oh my god, I love
the peanut bread. And I was like, be careful. I've
never tried peanut Be careful. Tried to have a small

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It's like you can have not not one you have
to have a few favorite anybody listening ever wants to
send me peanuts? Pretty intoxicated on one of the first
like heavy, heavy edible sessions. Oh my god, yeah myself.
I'm for some reason, I just love like like like

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just rolling up a joint. You know, I've just white paper.
Oftentimes friends are all about the blunt, but I'm not
so much like like a load de bok. I just
like to roll one smoke. We're in the art studio.
Oftentimes I'm smoking, you know, so much for my probation,
but you know whatever, we're here. Okay, Question thirty of

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the High Fi with these lovely people, go check out
their beautiful gallery, colorful sin. Craziest place you ever use
cannabis or smokes car in at a festival festival? Why

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was it so crazy? Was it a nun festival? It
was kind of a crazy No, it was like a
corilla second time in Sweden, in Colla in the desert,
Nevada or dam near Nevada. Yeah, kind of like it

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feels like you're going to Nevada. What about So I
would probably have to say Federal Prison Terminal Island, But
I started off my bid in the Atlanta Penitentiary, which
is known as the Castle, right, and they would I
was at I started off in like um Ay three
and one lockdown. You know, they let you out for
one hour a day. And I remember to go to
the yard. It was all caged up and it was

(57:54):
relatively new, like I had just been sentenced and the
first place I went to was the pen and and
I remember looking on the ground. There was like little
roaches and I was like, oh, man, Like I had
been in a really secure waiting to get sentenced in
like a pod, and they couldn't really you know, no
one was really smoking. Some of the um Puerto Ricans
have been flown in and we're starting they were starting

(58:16):
to smoke banana peels, which was pretty intriguing. You know.
I was like whatever, So they were lightening up banana
peels in our first pod. But so eventually when I
hit you know, Terminal Island, there's a you know a
lot of stuff on the yard and so sometimes you
can actually get you know, flower. But they also do

(58:38):
have synthetic, which is you know known to as like
um sylvia sylvia right right, It's not even close to
being like weed. I mean, it's that's should floya. It's
a totally different game. Yeah. So, um, that was something
people inmates were bringing in because it appeal was snippetts,
smoke it drinking. It almost looks like when you have

(59:00):
a rabbit, you have all this dust on the bottom
of this thing, like it's it's the strange. It's not,
it's not weird, and it's I don't even know what
how they call it synthetic because it has nothing to
do with it. I mean, there's marinal to apparently there's
cannabinoids and some sort of thing you know, in through it,
but it doesn't hit you like wead at all. It's
I mean, it's a different puts you different, whole different. Yeah,

(59:23):
sometimes it does. So the reason why they were doing
that is because, uh, there are um u A s,
which is a urine analysis piss test. While you're incarcerated,
they might just come knock on you and say, hey,
sin go to medical and that just means more than
likely somebody around yourself snatched on you and you have
to go do a U A. So they were doing
what's we were referring to in the in the prison

(59:45):
as spice. That's what it was called. That's what they called. Yeah,
that's really heavy, and I didn't realize how heavy it
was in some case. I remember coming back from the
yard one time and one of my cellis was like,
and so granted, um salt. Yeah, And so you have
to smoke a very very small amount. Most of the time.
We're sharing it with like three homies in our cell

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and we're all like, hey, it's like one hit, you know,
which is good for that fact, because you would get
knocked on your you know, if you're going to take
it all to yourself. Right. So we were smoking a
lot of spice. And I remember just like at the
TV room in the yard I was in was a
three story building and we would be in the homies
and we like locked up at night and sometimes we
would have access to the TV like eleven o'clock midnight,

(01:00:29):
one in the morning, and we would be in there.
I would literally have my feet on the table like
watching ale yeah, and TV, like watching TV like smoking
in prison, like oh my gosh. And I remember one
time I actually um had actually got real bud, right,
and I was they don't tell you when you go

(01:00:51):
to medical it's real or fake or what. No, Well,
they just don't tell you like, so no, I got
real bud right and I was smoking. I remember they
do it's it discount a couple of times a day,
and my cell was like reeking like skunk, and I
was like, oh, for sure, I'm gonna get hit, you
know what I mean. And so I remember one day
like I I you can turn in, which UM notes

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to like if you're having issues medically and you need
to go to a doctor, sometimes it's outside the facility.
So I didn't realize I had been smoking for like
a week, like real cannabis, not spice. And the guard
came to my things like hey, reports a medical on
the next move and I was like, oh man, I'm hit.
And I remember just taking a leak leak over and over,
like just not leak, drinking tons of water, you know,

(01:01:34):
to the next controlled movement. I was supposed to go there,
and when I go there, like, oh, you're going to
outside medical. Oh my gosh, I had so much water
in my system. I'm in the same orange suit. I'm
in the car and I'm like telling the guards and
I'm cuffed up at the front and the ankles. I'm like, man,
I gotta go to the bathroom. Holding you. But I'm like,
I can't. I'm not holding it in, we're not pulling

(01:01:55):
over and like going, and I was, so I I
did the zip down in front and I leaned over.
I leaned over in the van and literally took a
leak in the van and the guy was like, what
are you doing at the red light? I'm like, bro,
what are we gonna do? And then when he got out,
it's like, I'm gonna report you to the captain. I'm like,
do whatever, man, tell one of the orderlies to come

(01:02:16):
clean it up, you know. But so that was the
thing I would. I would smoke while I was incarcerated.
You know, that's a big deal. Yeah, it's a crazy place.
So a cap, they call it a cap, which is
like a chapstick cap, and it's all packed full, and
then that might be like fifty bucks for that little
tiny pack man. Question number four of the high five.

(01:02:37):
What is your go to munchie after you get high?
Swedish chocolate? Chocolate? Yeah, Swedish talk you talk about Swiss chocolate,
but Sweetish chol is very good to Marlow. Yeah, what
do you get that? Just like you know, you can't
just pick it up at the grocery store. Ye have

(01:03:00):
a good little Sweedish chocolate at home right now, comes
in a little box, you know, the big chocolate bar.
It has like little strips of it. It was the
first time I got it for my birthday on it
for my fifth birthday. Swedish. I don't know Swiss, you
know what the damn Swiss always trying to take your
Swedish credit for it. Yeah, I mean people talk about
Swiss chocolate is the best in the world, but I

(01:03:22):
think Swedish chocolate is the best. The Swedish women I
don't know about. But the chocolate, that's a good And
what about you? So so you know, I'm I'm really
bad when it comes to the sweets. Even even like
while I was InCAR scratted they have which is a
unique stone buns. Yeah, so people don't know. Maybe people

(01:03:45):
need to have what's called a hustle. And a hustle
is how you buy groceries. And you might do various things.
You might iron someone's clothes, you might clean their clothes,
you might do art. You might like working laundry and
give them clean, brand new sauce. So like, you know,
whatever scenario is right. So some people do what's called
a store. And so if you don't have money in

(01:04:06):
the here and now, you can go to somebody like
let's say, let's say Joe is the store guy. So
I go to Joe on the on the yard and
I'd be like, hey, Joe, I need a candy bar.
I need three snickers and a bottle and a bag
of chips, and so you'll give me all that on
the front, and then this week I owe you double.
So that's like and it just makes me think of

(01:04:27):
like the full sweet tooth. Like most of the time,
every week I always owed the store guy because I
was always leverage is buying, buying, buying, And when homies
would roll up and like, hey, hang out with me, man,
let me get you a soda, let's get some sneakers,
and we would like commiserate over snacks, you know, but
I would say, my go to is probably like some
sort of chocolate like Derito's. I'm always like annihilating the

(01:04:51):
whole entire back. I'm a gremlin. Oh that is great.
It's the high five with these amazing artists, the act
just the her Sinister Karen Bronze and of course, since
Sinister Monopoly, the Gallery, Colorful Sin. Question number five with
the high five. If you could smoke cannabis with anyone
dead or alive, who would it be and why? Jim

(01:05:14):
Carrey n I know he's making incredible paint. Go ahead,
tell us your story Abouttom No No. So if I
had I'm more of like a clown and the comedian.

(01:05:37):
When it comes time to watching a movie, my go
to is comedy, So I think it would be like
like I probably would want to do like Dave Chappelle,
you know, or like a Chris Rock or somebody where
we could just sit and just laugh. You know, Dude,
Dave Chappelle is his show is is damn near just
I mean, if you haven't seen it, please love R
James Chapelle's show. Guys, So listen anything else that we've

(01:06:00):
forgot before we let you guys get on out of here. Um,
you know that we missed on this show. Guys. Uh,
you know, I don't know how about you, Karen, when
you have to say I had one error. The craziest
place I've ever smoked was in Amsterdam. I went to
the cafe and I got this big joint like that
and it just smoke everywhere that's awesome. Well listen, guys.

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