September 17, 2024 • 32 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Cannabis Talk one oh one featuring Blue with
Joe Bronde, the world's number one source for everything cannabis.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Hello, wel but the Cannabis Talk one oh one, the
world's number one source for everything cannabis.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
My name is Joe Grande.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Sitting in a place where I don't know where he's
at is Blue, who knows what he's doing. But sitting
right there next to me in front of me is
a guy by the name of Chris Francino, Daniel and
of course Connor.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
I didn't want to say your who last night. I
don't why Chris gets the full last name like.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
That, but I think it's because of Chris Stopher Wright
and Chris Frankino.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Either way, Connor.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Daniel are also joining me today. You guys, thank you
for listening to our podcast all around the world, and
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the gramm at Joe Bronde if it's the two. But
today we are hanging out talking amongst each other with Connor,
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my brother from another mother. Of course, Daniel and Chris
Frankino the only three gentlemen from c She want to
one that I've been in my house.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
There we go expensive.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
So therefore we have an inner click right here, the
four of us. These are the only people that I've
been to my house that are allowed. Everyone else is
not allowed. There's that, you know. I mean, nobody has
my address. I live in a discreete area where Connor
told Chris about my house. Oh you got to go
see the grande studio by Chris calls me, I have
to come to your house show why because Connor told
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me about it yesterday. So he came over and checked
out the house, and I made him a nice little
breakfast and we had a great hangout. And that being said,
you guys cannabis talk one on one. We're brothers like that,
and we love each other like that. Because when Daniel
and Connor came over and we had a barbecue, went
and got some barbecue and it was awesome. How we
met a lady at the barbecue place. What's her name?
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (01:47):
Oh, what what is like? Barbara or something like that.
Oh yeah, Barbara.
Speaker 5 (01:52):
Yeah, what was the punch she made, Barbara?
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Kebob or something, Barbara, Because we've got kebabs and we
mooked a bunch of kebabs, So kabab Barbara hooked us up. Chris,
you would have loved this. We bought like two kebabs,
you know, like of each one, and she put like
four in each She charges.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
For the two, and she just cooked this up. Dog.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
She put like four of them in each one after
she charges for the two. So she just gangster style
hooked us up.
Speaker 6 (02:17):
My first job when I was a teenager off I
was fifteen, and uh, that was my very first job
was out of meat market. And it was the same
thing with my dad or my uncle or my cousins,
and my uncle would come in and yeah, I hook
them up, you know what I mean, just here, charge
them for two five all day.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Italian Girl was a spot I used to work at
and do that. That's what it was called. But it
was it was a great thing. So you guys, as
I look at you three, I love you brothers like
no other. It's obvious you came to my house. So uh,
for those that are listening, that's the brotherhood. Too, that
we have amongst each other, so as we share this show,
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pick up the kids. So let's get right into this, Daniel,
as you mentioned something to me or Connor, one of
you guys did and said, Chris is going to have
a lot of advice opinions on bombs. So explain how
you even came up with this, Daniel, As you're producing
this whole show and segment, I thought it was fantastic
(03:57):
as Cannabis Talk one oh one. People don't know Daniel's
producer and he's producing, So tell me what you got, Daniel.
Speaker 7 (04:04):
So in a general sense, I've noticed that, you know,
all my life, I've been primarily a bong user. I've
smoked everything from you know, pipes cracked. Yeah, and my
my favorite, my favorite has always been the.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Bomb black hair Tarwin. Okay, sorry, right.
Speaker 7 (04:26):
So, as I've been traveling, I've been noticing like not
a lot of people mess with the bombs.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
They don't really.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
When you travel abroad because you've been a broad lately.
Speaker 7 (04:34):
And why do you think that is, though, Daniel, I'm
not sure really, Like I think it's like a sanitary thing.
Or for instance, in Amsterdam they smoke a lot of splits,
so smoking.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
It's very social. I don't think it's a sanitary thing
because you're going to get more so live when you
have to joint the same joint.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
That's a very good points I do have.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Actually I got from the Mark and Craig propers washer man.
They gave me this little thing that's a mouthpiece. It's
a necklace and it's a silicone and it goes.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
I remember, get that, no doubt.
Speaker 6 (05:05):
How to put your your lips on the same lips
as you know everyone else.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
What I noticed over there.
Speaker 8 (05:12):
Like when I lived in the United Kingdom, it was
it's smoking is.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
Very much a social tool.
Speaker 8 (05:16):
And like, for example, I couldn't go and get a
girl's number in the United Kingdom without giving her.
Speaker 5 (05:22):
A cigarette first. So it's like over in Europe it's
like it's a social thing.
Speaker 8 (05:27):
So I think that passing the joint is like the
vessel or the mode in which they you know, congregate.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
Over And also, I mean the bomb is obviously a
lot harsher.
Speaker 6 (05:36):
Yeah, you know you're gonna get a much bigger hit,
a bigger amount of smoke going into your lungs than
you're off the joint.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
Yeah, unless you're January, you're probably not walking around with
the bomb.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
But did you guys, see especially you Connor.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
I look at you Connor as bongboy, right, like you're
literally bongboy to me because we've traveled together and you
traveled with your bomb, so therefore your bong boy, which
is not a bad thing, right. Like I when I
smoked and partied hard back in the day, when I
was your age, I had what I called my bible, right,
and in my Bible, I had.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Things, that's what I called it, right, A lot of
the other thing. Yeah, no doubt.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
I had razors in there for chopping up crank and crystal,
yes for real, as I did, and like metal. When
the metal business cards would come out, I grabbed one
of the first ones and I kept that in the Bible.
It's like, oh, this is just so dope to chop up.
I definitely did that, Chris, There's no denying that. That's
why I've been sober at this time twenty six plus years.
But when I did have it. My point is I
had this like the little thing you pressed the button
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and it just blows the smoke in your mouth, right,
You put the weed on top of you, light it
just and it just does it for you. Just take
it in, right, so it blows you in so that
was in my bible. Then I'd have my bongs, and
I'd always have my bongs, right, and then we had
the Dracula bar six years ago. You have an automatic
fucking oh dude, Well, not only that, my first time
getting high, right, I was six years old. I used
(06:59):
the power grenade. My first time smoking wasn't a joint.
It was through a fucking device. So as you say
bongs and these aren't cool, I'm like, that's how I learned, right,
So my first wasn't a hit of a joint this way.
It was a hit of a joint in a grenade.
It was like an oversized uh, like a basketball like
(07:22):
you know me, Like it fits it like both hands together.
You put the joint on the inside, then you squeezed
it and you tighten it up, and then you carved
it and you squeeze it and you pulled it in.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
So that was my first experience. Mind you, I was
only six.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
How crazy to think that that's how I fucking first smoked.
We at six, dog, But I'll never forget it. Right,
the double Dutch Bus was playing like I just I
know it. So it was like that first power hitter, dude,
and I remember dancing and going crazy, and then of
course there was bongs around everything else, so I immediately.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
And I loved them, and then tell and then I
haven't used one in.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
The last twenty six years, but I loved them from
six to twenty six.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
So there was twenty years of me loving using bongs.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
And I never ever once thought, oh, look at these
germs on this bong before I hit it.
Speaker 6 (08:17):
Well, remember, Germans didn't exist until twenty twenty when COVID.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Hit saying them like dogs.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
You guys say that right like you just said, Chris,
look what market Craig got me. When I seen them
give that to you, I remember, and I remember going, wow,
that's kind of dope. But we're gonna take a break
real quick when we come back. Did you guys ever
think that way? Or was twenty twenty the new way
of thinking of sharing a bong that way? It's Cannabi's
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Speaker 3 (08:46):
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Speaker 3 (09:46):
Today.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
We're talking to you guys about bond us about this
and that and putting your mouth on it and not
using it abroad, and our.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
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Speaker 2 (10:02):
There are very cannabis consumers, as I'm a cannabis consumer
as well, so four of us. I don't smoke the
flower like you guys, but I use all the products.
Can say Sodham last show. I don't know for sure
if two of you are strong bong users. I know
Connor is a strong bong user, and he'll put his
wacky tobacci in it as well, so he could hit
(10:23):
a spliff like he's doing.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
Yeah see that, you didn't even know that.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
So I know he does that because I travel with him,
right around him, I can say I've.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
Never smoked a cigarette out of a ball, and how
about that tobacco?
Speaker 3 (10:33):
And then that's my point. So so like Connor uses
the bong, in my opinion.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
To the highest greatest level of using a bong, why
because he's eliminated the paper from smoking a spliff. So,
in my weird mind thinking, Connor has conquered the knowledge
of using fucking his way of smoking the best of
using it, the best way possible, right to me?
Speaker 4 (10:55):
And I switch it up.
Speaker 6 (10:56):
I mean I have I obviously I have a bomb,
I have multiple bombs, right.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
But every day out of a bong as well.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
And it's oh, you smoke out of the bong every
day too, then.
Speaker 6 (11:05):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay, I don't know that because
I'm not gonna sit there and sometimes I just don't
want to smoke a whole joint.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
I prefer to smoke a joint.
Speaker 6 (11:12):
But if I'm just gonna smoke it, you know, and
take a snapper bowl or just say, hey, I'm gonna
hit out of the bomb because I'm gonna get a
lot higher, a lot faster than out of a pie.
Or again, if I don't really have time to sit
there and smoke a whole joint.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
She And that's what I would think, right, because if
I was to smoke right now, I would want to
smoke to get rid of my pain, right, so I
would want to smoke the best way to eliminate my
feelings of pain. Also, therefore, I think the bong would
be the way also concentrates.
Speaker 6 (11:40):
I don't have to smoke a whole joints worth of weed,
right because I mean, I'm going to put a lot
more nug into my joint than I am into one bowl.
All right, So smoking joints, nothing but joints, you're gonna
burn to you riddle lot.
Speaker 5 (11:52):
Yeah. That was always the problem in college, was like
I didn't have enough money.
Speaker 8 (11:55):
To like roll a joint, like for every time we
wanted to smoke, So it was like bong was always
the most fiscally responsible way for us to enjoy cannabis.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
Who puts you guys on the bombs? Like, who was
the person who puts you guys on the bomb? Well,
I think I put a lot of my friends onto bombs.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
You know, if somebody had to put you on it first,
is the good point. I get it, Daniel, I get
somebody had to teach.
Speaker 6 (12:17):
Somebody gave me a piece to a broken bomb, right,
which is a downstam, And so I used the downstam.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
And back then everything was aluminum. Nowadays we got.
Speaker 6 (12:24):
Most of our our bongs and all the hardware's class right.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
So I used the downstam.
Speaker 6 (12:30):
And I had emptied an old bottle with ketchup old
fucking heinz ketchup bottle. The plastic one melted it boom
shoves in there, and then I had a bomb right
holding them back the same thing.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
And then after that one got too you know, resonated.
Speaker 6 (12:45):
I used the honeybear, the little shaped plastic bottle in
the shape of a bear that honey comes in. That
was probably one of my favorite ones because everyone enjoyed
that one.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
It's a little bit smaller, more discreete. But the Ketchup
one fucking worked phenomenal.
Speaker 6 (12:59):
But I guess, like my buddy though Mikey is, I
guess who put me on on bombs because again he's
the only game in the broken pieces. And so just
mcgiver did it and made a bong from there and
it's been a rap ever since.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
You know what, Chris, I just want to thank you
right now because I always felt like I grew up
so less than And you know, there's no denying I
grew up on Fido, rice and beans and food STAPs, right,
but I never had no fucking ketchup bong.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
Dog. I was.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
Well, I had to start off with the ketchup person,
because I.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
I'm just saying thank you.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
I'm just saying thank you for no I'm saying thank
you for your vulnerability, dog, because I feel a little
bit better about myself.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
So thank you.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
You know what I mean, Like I always just go God, Joe,
pour us, pour us, pour me another drink for God's sakes.
But like you know what I mean, I always think
for me, like I always had it so bad, but
I never had to make it, never melt the ketchup bottle.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
You've never used any household items to make like a
quick bong.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
We used the nets on the not bongs though, like
so I never forged a bong. We forged pipes, you know,
screens on the things, lot of screens a lot of homes.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
But the only pipe.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
How about this, though, I know you guys have done
this one the milk cardon are to the two leader
and you do the cut the two leader and you
fucking boom. So we've done that at the house when
you're smoking, which becomes the fun house smoking thing, kind
of like what you're describing, which is hilarious to think
about because we've all kind of done it and so
by right, but I've just never done a Heinz bottle.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
One.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
We've done the two leader bottle, You've done the milk
carton bottle, right, yeah, the gravity bottles exactly in the
water and you do that and that was fun and awesome.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
But is it something, like you say, is it something
that's missed nowadays? You think new smokers.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
I miss I mean, but I mean I guess I
miss being a teenager.
Speaker 9 (14:49):
Right, Well, I mean there's that part, right, But we
used to also have the gas mask, oh right, and
the gas mask you could buy now at your local
smoke shops, feel like less than twenty bucks, right, But
the gas mask.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
Because that was a novel back in the day that
was like Freddy Krueger.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
Like your eyes felt, just like you really felt.
Speaker 7 (15:08):
I would take the bottom off and not use it
as a water because the ship gets all crazy.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
I'd use it as a steam roller. Yeah, I don't know.
It's just like you know, is it like a shotgun?
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Yeah? Just explain what I don't understand. You both understanding.
Speaker 7 (15:20):
I don't understands is attached to a bong, right, and
the water is filtering the smoke.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
But instead, since it's all.
Speaker 7 (15:27):
Acrylic, I take the bottom cap off and there's no water.
So it's like taking a dry bong hit. But instead
of like that tube, it's it's like a it's called
a steam roller. Like the shape of pipe, the type
of pipe that would be if it's like a straight tube.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
Yeah, it's a straight tube, right, So I got, Yeah,
that would be a steamroller, like like a like a
toilet roll, you.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
Know, okay, right, right, perfect, Okay, So.
Speaker 7 (15:52):
I would attach that to the bottom of the the
gas mask and hit that ship. But I don't recommend
like that stuff gives you act me and stuff like that. Dude,
I don't like using gas mask because one time we
were in a session at this guy's house and he
had it strapped to his end and he was like
coughing so much he was like throwing up inside that
gas out, but he couldn't pull it off his face.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
Exactly. Yeah, no it will.
Speaker 7 (16:17):
Not only did we not get faded that day, but
we kicked that fool out. This fool try to wash
it and bring it back, and we're like, get out
of here. Poor guy, if you're listening out there, don't
do that thing like you said.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
But isn't it the best way?
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Like when I see Connor, you hit yours right, Like
I have this visual dog of us pulling over a
few times and uh from Vegas to and from in
different locations, and you know, and it was an event,
and I look at it as one of those events,
(16:53):
like rolling a joint like it's a ritual, right, Like
when you pass the joint around the circle, it's a ritual.
I almost feel like the bong ritual is missed more
now than it used to. Like I felt like it
was a cool thing. So we're gonna take a break
real quick, and when we come back, I'm gonna tell
you a story when I first met the fucking five
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foot bong.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
And where I was apsd.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
And how I love the five football.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
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Five foot bongs are something that I love for a
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Speaker 3 (18:04):
As a matter of fact, I've just seen.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
The story again on the soldier Alex what's his name again, Buckley,
Brian Buckley, and that dude's story is just phenomenal. As
Chris Frankino, you and I will never forget the first
time we.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
Met him and talked with him, and Connor.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
And Daniel weren't there, and it was just you and
I that left that first.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
Meeting in a two buildings ago. You and I looked
at each other and go, that's the most amazing man
we've ever met.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
Like literally said that to each other, like that guy's
the truth, right, Like we looked at each.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
Other like, Wow, that guy's a real killer. He is.
Speaker 4 (18:37):
I don't want to skip what I was gonna say.
I was like that, look at the fullball fucking killer.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
Yeah, that guy's are a real killer. Like what do
you mean you need a killer right? For real? Like
he'll kill people for real anyhow.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Who he's a different man now, that's his job, and
that's the type of people we talk about around here.
Then I'll be saying we're talking bones, we're talking this,
we're talking that, And I love that.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Daniel.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
You brought this up because you know, everybody has their
first encounters with certain bongs. I mean, we get to
hear Chris do his, you do yours? Everybody.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
You know, I said mine when I was six years old.
Connor is married to his bong.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
For God's sake, he has a beautiful case for it.
I've seen him kiss his thing and hold it and make.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
I said, it puts you back as a girl.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Which is okay. And you know, and and I'm okay
with that if that's what people want to do your idea.
I'm not talking about the one you know and love
is gone. No, no, no, I'm going to bring it up.
I'm going to bring up the fact that.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Things like that happen, right, and then if you notice too,
I remember I made a big deal about it, like, oh,
y'all got to yep, because it's a big deal to
me too, Connor like and for people that are bong smokers, right,
we know what it's like. Hence I had what was
called the Bible. If you're a consumer of drugs like
I was, and it's just cannabis, fine, but I just
cannabis and all drugs, and it pulled in my Bible.
(19:54):
So therefore I had a love for it. And I
understand that love for it. So when you you have
a love for something like we have for bongs, it
means something.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
And when I was it was nineteen ninety.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
And I went to San Diego State with my boy
Brent Cooper and Brent went to school there. Brent was
my vice president. I was ASP president, Brent was vice president.
He was the wide receiver. I was a left tackle.
We were both captains of the football team as well.
Both played varsity sophomore years.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
He was my dude.
Speaker 6 (20:26):
List took yourself the more, tell me more, Joe, did
you guys?
Speaker 2 (20:30):
No, No, it's not about me. I was the offensive lineman.
He was the receiver in the dB that got all
the shining glory. I just wanted to build a relationship
of showing you the camaraderie of me and this brother
who's actually your brother as well, Brent Cooper.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
Anyhow, I go to San Diego.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Brent has the dreads and he looks just like Kobe
Ish and Brad Jeff and you know, all my brothers
I grew up with. And he's going to school there,
and me and Matt Cassidy we go to visit him,
and we go to visit Doug. And when we went
come over, what is this, Yes, the five foot bong
where you can't even light it and somebody else has
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to light the bong for you and then snap that
and we're smoking the brown weed with fucking seeds in it.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
So we're breaking it all up, you know, me on
an album cover seeds, go this way, turn that way.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
If you know what I'm talking about, your old school
like that, you know what I'm talking.
Speaker 10 (21:21):
About, snapping that five foot bong, dog coughing like my
eyeball was gonna come out, Like my chest was over
here on the left side, My eyeball was in the kitchen,
my chest was on the porch, and my asshole was
in the bathroom and there was nothing better.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
Huh.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
How crazy is I described that to you boys, and
you know exactly what I'm talking about.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
Right when that eyeball feels like it's gonna come out,
how does it feel like I was looking for it?
Speaker 6 (21:52):
Because you're because you're a quote unquote friend right there,
you let that shake get way too full of smoke,
more smoke than your lungs we're ever.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
Gonna be able to hold.
Speaker 6 (22:00):
So you end up having at the end taking it
still air, so now you're just choking the chow.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
But my point is you've all done this with bumps,
whether it's right a two football, a little bong and
you overstuff it and then you're coffee like that, or
it's a five foot bomb. My point to you guys is,
give me the story one another. How far did you
go with it? Did you shit your pants? Did you shark?
Speaker 3 (22:25):
Did you pee? Did you just blow vocals out before you.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
Go there first?
Speaker 6 (22:30):
I guess the question I have is when you packed
the ball, do you prefer to be ground up with
the grinder or just hand broken up with your hand?
Speaker 4 (22:37):
I do. I grind it up with the back of first,
and then on top.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
See here, slippy, it's actually I say, watching them do
it was an artwork.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
I was before the grinders, so I was only breaking
up put a nug in and snap, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
They didn't have grinders fucking twenty six years ago. It
was scissors and me breaking nugs up. Boom. And But
for me, just to be clear, I do. I would
put a little coca my shit sometimes too, though you
pe dog. Oh you call a pet dog called coco
pub we call the smurphy, we call it. There's all
kinds of names. But that's just me being honest.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
You know, I'm saying, like I'm sober twenty six years
I'm not don't do what I did, folks.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
I'm just telling you how I smoked.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
And then when we smoked it like that, it was
called the Dracula, the dragon.
Speaker 5 (23:23):
There we go.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
That's what it was called.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Daniel.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
It's a scary situation, but it's real.
Speaker 6 (23:31):
So wed your fire football. We heard about Daniel and
the mask. Somebody's thrown up, which is a freaking battle
horror story.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
What do you got, Connor? What was your like what
your eyes bawling out?
Speaker 6 (23:43):
Or yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Mean somebody had to ship your pants somewhere in college
or overseas geez.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (23:51):
Or I'd say like like when you first start taking
tobacco in the bowl with the weed, it's definitely an experience.
Speaker 5 (23:59):
Like, as we know, nicotine cuts off blood, float of.
Speaker 8 (24:02):
The brain, so when you take a big one, it's
just you know, I hope my mother is watch this episode,
but it'll it'll send you, that's for sure.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
And so here here's the deal. You've tookn it. You
almost passed out home. Let's just tell the truth. You've
almost passed out past.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
I passed out for sure. Oh yeah, we started seeing stars.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
Yeah, dude, how about this.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
I went to the rave and did the nitrous hits,
just passed out perfect.
Speaker 7 (24:37):
I'm so happy you brought that up, Joe, because I tried.
I never smoked tobacco with my weed ever, and I
tried one at his house and it literally felt like
a mix between that nitrous oxide hit where it's like
you know what I mean, Yeah, I never tried that.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
You never try to That is it.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
He's got it right now, He's all, what you mean, dude,
it's crazy to speak how those you know, party supply
aren't those like naturally you could buy them anywhere?
Speaker 4 (25:15):
Yeah, whippets.
Speaker 7 (25:17):
Yeah, so you could go to any smoke shop and
you could buy even any smoke shop that sells bongs
or whatever.
Speaker 5 (25:24):
You could go and ask them for uh yeah, it's
like whippets.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
But right now they got these like.
Speaker 7 (25:29):
Tanks that are for food grade and like nitrous oxide.
Speaker 5 (25:33):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 7 (25:34):
So they're like tanks like this, and you could just
fucking hit that ship and while you're driving.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
Not just kidding do that, but you could.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
So here's the fun To go back to that story
and to mentioned the term people that I've already mentioned
Kobe and Brent, my two boys.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
You've met Kobe, you haven't met Brett.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
But imagine Kobe and Brent, right, two brothers were at
a rave and Sam in the city.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
No shirt, Oh, no shirt on. Kobe rec in peace,
no shirt on, Coby, you no cob dog. Right at
this point he does no shirt.
Speaker 6 (26:05):
I'm trying to gauge the situation right with a shirt
off or off because it's off.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
Then it's a real party.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
About three four in the morning at this point, shirts off,
you know.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
Be we're outside at this place, just partied, and they
find me because I passed out of the nitrous hits
and we're on so many other drugs whatever.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
Before you know it, they find me.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
And I never forget the story and the way they
tell it because it's just the pointy. They go, Dude,
we've been looking all over for Joe, and then we
finally find Joe on top of a heel dancing with
two dudes with his shirt off. Of course, Kobe tells
the story like that, and I see Kobe and bring
(26:43):
down there, like come up, and they're going, no, you
get down here, those dudes.
Speaker 4 (26:47):
You that sounds like a rave.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
It was a raven some nitrous hits and some fun times.
It happens with that long talk nitrous talk. It's cannabis
talk one oh one, Chris Frankeno, are you going to
go hit a bunk tonight of course.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
So is it a ritual time, like is it a
certain thing like when you go home?
Speaker 6 (27:08):
Well, it kind of is actually for me because I
smoke a joint every night. I lay in my bed
and I smoke a joint, you know, but I hand
roll it, and uh, that's the only time I smoke
in the house is at the end of the night
when everyone's asleep, and I'll smoke a joint. But as
I'm rolling the joint, you know, especially because now I've
been rolling hasholes ever since we did that Hashold episode.
Speaker 9 (27:26):
And I got terrible weed, right, You've got terrible so
uh but while I roll it I have, I don't
smoke it just yet because it's not quite time to
go to bed.
Speaker 6 (27:34):
So I'll take it because now I'm like fucking almost
joning because like fuck, I just rolled this joint that
I want to smoke, So I smoke a bomb hit
until I go to bed and smoke my joint that
I just handled.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
So the bung hit is your prerequisite before the joint.
Speaker 4 (27:49):
Advertizer pretty much is the appia.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
The appetizer before the stake. Okay, I get it. I
like that.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Do you have a regimen like that too, Connor or
Daniel m because he's every night before bed smokes a
joint in bed.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
That's a good regimen.
Speaker 8 (28:03):
I mean I rip bong before I go to bed,
that's for damn sure.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
But do you still have to go to the car
to do that or could you do it in your house? Now?
Speaker 5 (28:11):
Uh No, I got a little system going.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
I don't have to uh.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
Go outside now cool?
Speaker 4 (28:17):
No more high school ripping. Do you have a billow? I?
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Well, he had a crazy household that the neighbor the
neighborhood wouldn't let him.
Speaker 5 (28:25):
Oh yeah, my my neighbors got like pissed one time,
like I billow dude.
Speaker 8 (28:29):
Yeah, literally, so I have I have like a little
smoke buddy, But I like blew out smoke one time
from like the like in my kitchen out onto the
back patio and then like I exhale.
Speaker 5 (28:42):
And then like three seconds like for ten seconds later,
I just hear the upstairs like sliding door like fucking slam, like.
Speaker 8 (28:50):
Like super loud, and they yelled at you, Well they
didn't yell, but like and then I like walk out
and the dad is just like glaring at me, straight
looking at me, like but that's my story.
Speaker 5 (29:05):
Do you have any anything else before?
Speaker 4 (29:06):
You know?
Speaker 7 (29:08):
I mean, I just use, you know, just like any
typical smoker I do. I use my bong literally before anything,
before I eat, after I eat, before I shop, after
I shit, for work, during work, after work, as long
as everything I do gets It's funny.
Speaker 6 (29:26):
Because you called Connor bong boy, but for me it's
Daniel because this guy rolls with the bomb in his
car at all times.
Speaker 4 (29:32):
I don't know. I've ever seen him not have a
bomb in his car, but.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
I've never rolled with him in the car to see.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
Him see him smoking a bomb.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
I always pull up on him doing it, but I've
never been in the car on a road trip with
him to see how he handles it, like Connor, you
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 10 (29:49):
I know.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
But and when we did the road trip, he was
in the back seat doing his own thing too, but
he was in the front seat driving, so as the driver,
and I was the past year I watched him do
his thing, which was like I've seen the ritual more
with Connor than with Daniels. So that's why he's labeled it.
But I do see it like Daniel's come to the
house and when he helped me put on my TV
to do some of the random theater. We go and
(30:11):
we just went there's a few things around here, just chilling.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
Hey, he go in the car, riped one, ripped like
everything he just said.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Right before we ate, he went to the car, ripped one,
right before we did this, went to the swimming ripped.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
One like everything he just said.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
He did, Like he went to the car, he would
close up his car and take a boone rip. So
you're right, He's definitely the more bongboy than Connor for sure.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
But he's I mean just.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
More discreet though, like more just like he just goes
and does it. But Connor's is more of a bigger
thing because it's more of a production because he splits it.
So Connor has to do the tobacco. And I've watched
him under a whole brand new cigarette. Then I seen
him keep the tobacco, so it's a whole thing that
I watched him do. So therefore it was like, oh wow,
(30:56):
that's a fool on ritual, you know. I mean, like
I've never seen anybody do that. I never seen So
when you grab a cigarette from packet, slice it open,
take off it I mean, it was a whole thing
with them.
Speaker 8 (31:06):
You know what's funny is I think I think it
originates from the cigarette.
Speaker 5 (31:11):
Like in the Bay Area they call.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
It really they call it am moke.
Speaker 8 (31:16):
Maybe taco and uh and weed in there, and like
when I first took when I took my first one,
it was a guy from uh Walnut Creek who showed
me and like told me all about it.
Speaker 5 (31:29):
So my concept is it's a area thing.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
I mean, I'm sure it is. Most great things come
from the bank.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
Oh.
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Sitting in a place where I don't know where he's
at is Blue, who knows what he's doing. But sitting
right there next to me in front of me is
a guy by the name of Chris Francino, Daniel and
of course Connor.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
I didn't want to say your who last night. I
don't why Chris gets the full last name like.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
That, but I think it's because of Chris Stopher Wright
and Chris Frankino.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Either way, Connor.
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my brother from another mother. Of course, Daniel and Chris
Frankino the only three gentlemen from c She want to
one that I've been in my house.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
There we go expensive.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
So therefore we have an inner click right here, the
four of us. These are the only people that I've
been to my house that are allowed. Everyone else is
not allowed. There's that, you know. I mean, nobody has
my address. I live in a discreete area where Connor
told Chris about my house. Oh you got to go
see the grande studio by Chris calls me, I have
to come to your house show why because Connor told
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me about it yesterday. So he came over and checked
out the house, and I made him a nice little
breakfast and we had a great hangout. And that being said,
you guys cannabis talk one on one. We're brothers like that,
and we love each other like that. Because when Daniel
and Connor came over and we had a barbecue, went
and got some barbecue and it was awesome. How we
met a lady at the barbecue place. What's her name?
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (01:47):
Oh, what what is like? Barbara or something like that.
Oh yeah, Barbara.
Speaker 5 (01:52):
Yeah, what was the punch she made, Barbara?
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Kebob or something, Barbara, Because we've got kebabs and we
mooked a bunch of kebabs, So kabab Barbara hooked us up. Chris,
you would have loved this. We bought like two kebabs,
you know, like of each one, and she put like
four in each She charges.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
For the two, and she just cooked this up. Dog.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
She put like four of them in each one after
she charges for the two. So she just gangster style
hooked us up.
Speaker 6 (02:17):
My first job when I was a teenager off I
was fifteen, and uh, that was my very first job
was out of meat market. And it was the same
thing with my dad or my uncle or my cousins,
and my uncle would come in and yeah, I hook
them up, you know what I mean, just here, charge
them for two five all day.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Italian Girl was a spot I used to work at
and do that. That's what it was called. But it
was it was a great thing. So you guys, as
I look at you three, I love you brothers like
no other. It's obvious you came to my house. So uh,
for those that are listening, that's the brotherhood. Too, that
we have amongst each other, so as we share this show,
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pick up the kids. So let's get right into this, Daniel,
as you mentioned something to me or Connor, one of
you guys did and said, Chris is going to have
a lot of advice opinions on bombs. So explain how
you even came up with this, Daniel, As you're producing
this whole show and segment, I thought it was fantastic
(03:57):
as Cannabis Talk one oh one. People don't know Daniel's
producer and he's producing, So tell me what you got, Daniel.
Speaker 7 (04:04):
So in a general sense, I've noticed that, you know,
all my life, I've been primarily a bong user. I've
smoked everything from you know, pipes cracked. Yeah, and my
my favorite, my favorite has always been the.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Bomb black hair Tarwin. Okay, sorry, right.
Speaker 7 (04:26):
So, as I've been traveling, I've been noticing like not
a lot of people mess with the bombs.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
They don't really.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
When you travel abroad because you've been a broad lately.
Speaker 7 (04:34):
And why do you think that is, though, Daniel, I'm
not sure really, Like I think it's like a sanitary thing.
Or for instance, in Amsterdam they smoke a lot of splits,
so smoking.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
It's very social. I don't think it's a sanitary thing
because you're going to get more so live when you
have to joint the same joint.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
That's a very good points I do have.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Actually I got from the Mark and Craig propers washer man.
They gave me this little thing that's a mouthpiece. It's
a necklace and it's a silicone and it goes.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
I remember, get that, no doubt.
Speaker 6 (05:05):
How to put your your lips on the same lips
as you know everyone else.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
What I noticed over there.
Speaker 8 (05:12):
Like when I lived in the United Kingdom, it was
it's smoking is.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
Very much a social tool.
Speaker 8 (05:16):
And like, for example, I couldn't go and get a
girl's number in the United Kingdom without giving her.
Speaker 5 (05:22):
A cigarette first. So it's like over in Europe it's
like it's a social thing.
Speaker 8 (05:27):
So I think that passing the joint is like the
vessel or the mode in which they you know, congregate.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
Over And also, I mean the bomb is obviously a
lot harsher.
Speaker 6 (05:36):
Yeah, you know you're gonna get a much bigger hit,
a bigger amount of smoke going into your lungs than
you're off the joint.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
Yeah, unless you're January, you're probably not walking around with
the bomb.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
But did you guys, see especially you Connor.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
I look at you Connor as bongboy, right, like you're
literally bongboy to me because we've traveled together and you
traveled with your bomb, so therefore your bong boy, which
is not a bad thing, right. Like I when I
smoked and partied hard back in the day, when I
was your age, I had what I called my bible, right,
and in my Bible, I had.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Things, that's what I called it, right, A lot of
the other thing. Yeah, no doubt.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
I had razors in there for chopping up crank and crystal,
yes for real, as I did, and like metal. When
the metal business cards would come out, I grabbed one
of the first ones and I kept that in the Bible.
It's like, oh, this is just so dope to chop up.
I definitely did that, Chris, There's no denying that. That's
why I've been sober at this time twenty six plus years.
But when I did have it. My point is I
had this like the little thing you pressed the button
(06:38):
and it just blows the smoke in your mouth, right,
You put the weed on top of you, light it
just and it just does it for you. Just take
it in, right, so it blows you in so that
was in my bible. Then I'd have my bongs, and
I'd always have my bongs, right, and then we had
the Dracula bar six years ago. You have an automatic
fucking oh dude, Well, not only that, my first time
getting high, right, I was six years old. I used
(06:59):
the power grenade. My first time smoking wasn't a joint.
It was through a fucking device. So as you say
bongs and these aren't cool, I'm like, that's how I learned, right,
So my first wasn't a hit of a joint this way.
It was a hit of a joint in a grenade.
It was like an oversized uh, like a basketball like
(07:22):
you know me, Like it fits it like both hands together.
You put the joint on the inside, then you squeezed
it and you tighten it up, and then you carved
it and you squeeze it and you pulled it in.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
So that was my first experience. Mind you, I was
only six.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
How crazy to think that that's how I fucking first smoked.
We at six, dog, But I'll never forget it. Right,
the double Dutch Bus was playing like I just I
know it. So it was like that first power hitter, dude,
and I remember dancing and going crazy, and then of
course there was bongs around everything else, so I immediately.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
And I loved them, and then tell and then I
haven't used one in.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
The last twenty six years, but I loved them from
six to twenty six.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
So there was twenty years of me loving using bongs.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
And I never ever once thought, oh, look at these
germs on this bong before I hit it.
Speaker 6 (08:17):
Well, remember, Germans didn't exist until twenty twenty when COVID.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Hit saying them like dogs.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
You guys say that right like you just said, Chris,
look what market Craig got me. When I seen them
give that to you, I remember, and I remember going, wow,
that's kind of dope. But we're gonna take a break
real quick when we come back. Did you guys ever
think that way? Or was twenty twenty the new way
of thinking of sharing a bong that way? It's Cannabi's
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Speaker 3 (09:46):
Today.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
We're talking to you guys about bond us about this
and that and putting your mouth on it and not
using it abroad, and our.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Bonds making a comeback are going away because of the
three stooges that I'm looking at right now.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
There are very cannabis consumers, as I'm a cannabis consumer
as well, so four of us. I don't smoke the
flower like you guys, but I use all the products.
Can say Sodham last show. I don't know for sure
if two of you are strong bong users. I know
Connor is a strong bong user, and he'll put his
wacky tobacci in it as well, so he could hit
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a spliff like he's doing.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
Yeah see that, you didn't even know that.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
So I know he does that because I travel with him,
right around him, I can say I've.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
Never smoked a cigarette out of a ball, and how
about that tobacco?
Speaker 3 (10:33):
And then that's my point. So so like Connor uses
the bong, in my opinion.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
To the highest greatest level of using a bong, why
because he's eliminated the paper from smoking a spliff. So,
in my weird mind thinking, Connor has conquered the knowledge
of using fucking his way of smoking the best of
using it, the best way possible, right to me?
Speaker 4 (10:55):
And I switch it up.
Speaker 6 (10:56):
I mean I have I obviously I have a bomb,
I have multiple bombs, right.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
But every day out of a bong as well.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
And it's oh, you smoke out of the bong every
day too, then.
Speaker 6 (11:05):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay, I don't know that because
I'm not gonna sit there and sometimes I just don't
want to smoke a whole joint.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
I prefer to smoke a joint.
Speaker 6 (11:12):
But if I'm just gonna smoke it, you know, and
take a snapper bowl or just say, hey, I'm gonna
hit out of the bomb because I'm gonna get a
lot higher, a lot faster than out of a pie.
Or again, if I don't really have time to sit
there and smoke a whole joint.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
She And that's what I would think, right, because if
I was to smoke right now, I would want to
smoke to get rid of my pain, right, so I
would want to smoke the best way to eliminate my
feelings of pain. Also, therefore, I think the bong would
be the way also concentrates.
Speaker 6 (11:40):
I don't have to smoke a whole joints worth of weed,
right because I mean, I'm going to put a lot
more nug into my joint than I am into one bowl.
All right, So smoking joints, nothing but joints, you're gonna
burn to you riddle lot.
Speaker 5 (11:52):
Yeah. That was always the problem in college, was like
I didn't have enough money.
Speaker 8 (11:55):
To like roll a joint, like for every time we
wanted to smoke, So it was like bong was always
the most fiscally responsible way for us to enjoy cannabis.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
Who puts you guys on the bombs? Like, who was
the person who puts you guys on the bomb? Well,
I think I put a lot of my friends onto bombs.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
You know, if somebody had to put you on it first,
is the good point. I get it, Daniel, I get
somebody had to teach.
Speaker 6 (12:17):
Somebody gave me a piece to a broken bomb, right,
which is a downstam, And so I used the downstam.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
And back then everything was aluminum. Nowadays we got.
Speaker 6 (12:24):
Most of our our bongs and all the hardware's class right.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
So I used the downstam.
Speaker 6 (12:30):
And I had emptied an old bottle with ketchup old
fucking heinz ketchup bottle. The plastic one melted it boom
shoves in there, and then I had a bomb right
holding them back the same thing.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
And then after that one got too you know, resonated.
Speaker 6 (12:45):
I used the honeybear, the little shaped plastic bottle in
the shape of a bear that honey comes in. That
was probably one of my favorite ones because everyone enjoyed
that one.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
It's a little bit smaller, more discreete. But the Ketchup
one fucking worked phenomenal.
Speaker 6 (12:59):
But I guess, like my buddy though Mikey is, I
guess who put me on on bombs because again he's
the only game in the broken pieces. And so just
mcgiver did it and made a bong from there and
it's been a rap ever since.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
You know what, Chris, I just want to thank you
right now because I always felt like I grew up
so less than And you know, there's no denying I
grew up on Fido, rice and beans and food STAPs, right,
but I never had no fucking ketchup bong.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
Dog. I was.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
Well, I had to start off with the ketchup person,
because I.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
I'm just saying thank you.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
I'm just saying thank you for no I'm saying thank
you for your vulnerability, dog, because I feel a little
bit better about myself.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
So thank you.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
You know what I mean, Like I always just go God, Joe,
pour us, pour us, pour me another drink for God's sakes.
But like you know what I mean, I always think
for me, like I always had it so bad, but
I never had to make it, never melt the ketchup bottle.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
You've never used any household items to make like a
quick bong.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
We used the nets on the not bongs though, like
so I never forged a bong. We forged pipes, you know,
screens on the things, lot of screens a lot of homes.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
But the only pipe.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
How about this, though, I know you guys have done
this one the milk cardon are to the two leader
and you do the cut the two leader and you
fucking boom. So we've done that at the house when
you're smoking, which becomes the fun house smoking thing, kind
of like what you're describing, which is hilarious to think
about because we've all kind of done it and so
by right, but I've just never done a Heinz bottle.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
One.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
We've done the two leader bottle, You've done the milk
carton bottle, right, yeah, the gravity bottles exactly in the
water and you do that and that was fun and awesome.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
But is it something, like you say, is it something
that's missed nowadays? You think new smokers.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
I miss I mean, but I mean I guess I
miss being a teenager.
Speaker 9 (14:49):
Right, Well, I mean there's that part, right, But we
used to also have the gas mask, oh right, and
the gas mask you could buy now at your local
smoke shops, feel like less than twenty bucks, right, But
the gas mask.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
Because that was a novel back in the day that
was like Freddy Krueger.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
Like your eyes felt, just like you really felt.
Speaker 7 (15:08):
I would take the bottom off and not use it
as a water because the ship gets all crazy.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
I'd use it as a steam roller. Yeah, I don't know.
It's just like you know, is it like a shotgun?
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Yeah? Just explain what I don't understand. You both understanding.
Speaker 7 (15:20):
I don't understands is attached to a bong, right, and
the water is filtering the smoke.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
But instead, since it's all.
Speaker 7 (15:27):
Acrylic, I take the bottom cap off and there's no water.
So it's like taking a dry bong hit. But instead
of like that tube, it's it's like a it's called
a steam roller. Like the shape of pipe, the type
of pipe that would be if it's like a straight tube.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
Yeah, it's a straight tube, right, So I got, Yeah,
that would be a steamroller, like like a like a
toilet roll, you.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
Know, okay, right, right, perfect, Okay, So.
Speaker 7 (15:52):
I would attach that to the bottom of the the
gas mask and hit that ship. But I don't recommend
like that stuff gives you act me and stuff like that. Dude,
I don't like using gas mask because one time we
were in a session at this guy's house and he
had it strapped to his end and he was like
coughing so much he was like throwing up inside that
gas out, but he couldn't pull it off his face.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
Exactly. Yeah, no it will.
Speaker 7 (16:17):
Not only did we not get faded that day, but
we kicked that fool out. This fool try to wash
it and bring it back, and we're like, get out
of here. Poor guy, if you're listening out there, don't
do that thing like you said.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
But isn't it the best way?
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Like when I see Connor, you hit yours right, Like
I have this visual dog of us pulling over a
few times and uh from Vegas to and from in
different locations, and you know, and it was an event,
and I look at it as one of those events,
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like rolling a joint like it's a ritual, right, Like
when you pass the joint around the circle, it's a ritual.
I almost feel like the bong ritual is missed more
now than it used to. Like I felt like it
was a cool thing. So we're gonna take a break
real quick, and when we come back, I'm gonna tell
you a story when I first met the fucking five
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foot bong.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
And where I was apsd.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
And how I love the five football.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
It's Cannabis Talk one on one right back after this break.
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Speaker 2 (17:54):
Five foot bongs are something that I love for a
long time, you guys, And I don't know if you've
seen the latest edition of Cannabis Talk magazine, but it's
got some great articles, some great everything, and a great story.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
As a matter of fact, I've just seen.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
The story again on the soldier Alex what's his name again, Buckley,
Brian Buckley, and that dude's story is just phenomenal. As
Chris Frankino, you and I will never forget the first
time we.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
Met him and talked with him, and Connor.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
And Daniel weren't there, and it was just you and
I that left that first.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
Meeting in a two buildings ago. You and I looked
at each other and go, that's the most amazing man
we've ever met.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
Like literally said that to each other, like that guy's
the truth, right, Like we looked at each.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
Other like, Wow, that guy's a real killer. He is.
Speaker 4 (18:37):
I don't want to skip what I was gonna say.
I was like that, look at the fullball fucking killer.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
Yeah, that guy's are a real killer. Like what do
you mean you need a killer right? For real? Like
he'll kill people for real anyhow.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Who he's a different man now, that's his job, and
that's the type of people we talk about around here.
Then I'll be saying we're talking bones, we're talking this,
we're talking that, And I love that.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Daniel.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
You brought this up because you know, everybody has their
first encounters with certain bongs. I mean, we get to
hear Chris do his, you do yours? Everybody.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
You know, I said mine when I was six years old.
Connor is married to his bong.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
For God's sake, he has a beautiful case for it.
I've seen him kiss his thing and hold it and make.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
I said, it puts you back as a girl.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Which is okay. And you know, and and I'm okay
with that if that's what people want to do your idea.
I'm not talking about the one you know and love
is gone. No, no, no, I'm going to bring it up.
I'm going to bring up the fact that.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Things like that happen, right, and then if you notice too,
I remember I made a big deal about it, like, oh,
y'all got to yep, because it's a big deal to
me too, Connor like and for people that are bong smokers, right,
we know what it's like. Hence I had what was
called the Bible. If you're a consumer of drugs like
I was, and it's just cannabis, fine, but I just
cannabis and all drugs, and it pulled in my Bible.
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So therefore I had a love for it. And I
understand that love for it. So when you you have
a love for something like we have for bongs, it
means something.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
And when I was it was nineteen ninety.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
And I went to San Diego State with my boy
Brent Cooper and Brent went to school there. Brent was
my vice president. I was ASP president, Brent was vice president.
He was the wide receiver. I was a left tackle.
We were both captains of the football team as well.
Both played varsity sophomore years.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
He was my dude.
Speaker 6 (20:26):
List took yourself the more, tell me more, Joe, did
you guys?
Speaker 2 (20:30):
No, No, it's not about me. I was the offensive lineman.
He was the receiver in the dB that got all
the shining glory. I just wanted to build a relationship
of showing you the camaraderie of me and this brother
who's actually your brother as well, Brent Cooper.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
Anyhow, I go to San Diego.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Brent has the dreads and he looks just like Kobe
Ish and Brad Jeff and you know, all my brothers
I grew up with. And he's going to school there,
and me and Matt Cassidy we go to visit him,
and we go to visit Doug. And when we went
come over, what is this, Yes, the five foot bong
where you can't even light it and somebody else has
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to light the bong for you and then snap that
and we're smoking the brown weed with fucking seeds in it.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
So we're breaking it all up, you know, me on
an album cover seeds, go this way, turn that way.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
If you know what I'm talking about, your old school
like that, you know what I'm talking.
Speaker 10 (21:21):
About, snapping that five foot bong, dog coughing like my
eyeball was gonna come out, Like my chest was over
here on the left side, My eyeball was in the kitchen,
my chest was on the porch, and my asshole was
in the bathroom and there was nothing better.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
Huh.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
How crazy is I described that to you boys, and
you know exactly what I'm talking about.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
Right when that eyeball feels like it's gonna come out,
how does it feel like I was looking for it?
Speaker 6 (21:52):
Because you're because you're a quote unquote friend right there,
you let that shake get way too full of smoke,
more smoke than your lungs we're ever.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
Gonna be able to hold.
Speaker 6 (22:00):
So you end up having at the end taking it
still air, so now you're just choking the chow.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
But my point is you've all done this with bumps,
whether it's right a two football, a little bong and
you overstuff it and then you're coffee like that, or
it's a five foot bomb. My point to you guys is,
give me the story one another. How far did you
go with it? Did you shit your pants? Did you shark?
Speaker 3 (22:25):
Did you pee? Did you just blow vocals out before you.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
Go there first?
Speaker 6 (22:30):
I guess the question I have is when you packed
the ball, do you prefer to be ground up with
the grinder or just hand broken up with your hand?
Speaker 4 (22:37):
I do. I grind it up with the back of first,
and then on top.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
See here, slippy, it's actually I say, watching them do
it was an artwork.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
I was before the grinders, so I was only breaking
up put a nug in and snap, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
They didn't have grinders fucking twenty six years ago. It
was scissors and me breaking nugs up. Boom. And But
for me, just to be clear, I do. I would
put a little coca my shit sometimes too, though you
pe dog. Oh you call a pet dog called coco
pub we call the smurphy, we call it. There's all
kinds of names. But that's just me being honest.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
You know, I'm saying, like I'm sober twenty six years
I'm not don't do what I did, folks.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
I'm just telling you how I smoked.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
And then when we smoked it like that, it was
called the Dracula, the dragon.
Speaker 5 (23:23):
There we go.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
That's what it was called.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Daniel.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
It's a scary situation, but it's real.
Speaker 6 (23:31):
So wed your fire football. We heard about Daniel and
the mask. Somebody's thrown up, which is a freaking battle
horror story.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
What do you got, Connor? What was your like what
your eyes bawling out?
Speaker 6 (23:43):
Or yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Mean somebody had to ship your pants somewhere in college
or overseas geez.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (23:51):
Or I'd say like like when you first start taking
tobacco in the bowl with the weed, it's definitely an experience.
Speaker 5 (23:59):
Like, as we know, nicotine cuts off blood, float of.
Speaker 8 (24:02):
The brain, so when you take a big one, it's
just you know, I hope my mother is watch this episode,
but it'll it'll send you, that's for sure.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
And so here here's the deal. You've tookn it. You
almost passed out home. Let's just tell the truth. You've
almost passed out past.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
I passed out for sure. Oh yeah, we started seeing stars.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
Yeah, dude, how about this.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
I went to the rave and did the nitrous hits,
just passed out perfect.
Speaker 7 (24:37):
I'm so happy you brought that up, Joe, because I tried.
I never smoked tobacco with my weed ever, and I
tried one at his house and it literally felt like
a mix between that nitrous oxide hit where it's like
you know what I mean, Yeah, I never tried that.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
You never try to That is it.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
He's got it right now, He's all, what you mean, dude,
it's crazy to speak how those you know, party supply
aren't those like naturally you could buy them anywhere?
Speaker 4 (25:15):
Yeah, whippets.
Speaker 7 (25:17):
Yeah, so you could go to any smoke shop and
you could buy even any smoke shop that sells bongs
or whatever.
Speaker 5 (25:24):
You could go and ask them for uh yeah, it's
like whippets.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
But right now they got these like.
Speaker 7 (25:29):
Tanks that are for food grade and like nitrous oxide.
Speaker 5 (25:33):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 7 (25:34):
So they're like tanks like this, and you could just
fucking hit that ship and while you're driving.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
Not just kidding do that, but you could.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
So here's the fun To go back to that story
and to mentioned the term people that I've already mentioned
Kobe and Brent, my two boys.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
You've met Kobe, you haven't met Brett.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
But imagine Kobe and Brent, right, two brothers were at
a rave and Sam in the city.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
No shirt, Oh, no shirt on. Kobe rec in peace,
no shirt on, Coby, you no cob dog. Right at
this point he does no shirt.
Speaker 6 (26:05):
I'm trying to gauge the situation right with a shirt
off or off because it's off.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
Then it's a real party.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
About three four in the morning at this point, shirts off,
you know.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
Be we're outside at this place, just partied, and they
find me because I passed out of the nitrous hits
and we're on so many other drugs whatever.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
Before you know it, they find me.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
And I never forget the story and the way they
tell it because it's just the pointy. They go, Dude,
we've been looking all over for Joe, and then we
finally find Joe on top of a heel dancing with
two dudes with his shirt off. Of course, Kobe tells
the story like that, and I see Kobe and bring
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down there, like come up, and they're going, no, you
get down here, those dudes.
Speaker 4 (26:47):
You that sounds like a rave.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
It was a raven some nitrous hits and some fun times.
It happens with that long talk nitrous talk. It's cannabis
talk one oh one, Chris Frankeno, are you going to
go hit a bunk tonight of course.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
So is it a ritual time, like is it a
certain thing like when you go home?
Speaker 6 (27:08):
Well, it kind of is actually for me because I
smoke a joint every night. I lay in my bed
and I smoke a joint, you know, but I hand
roll it, and uh, that's the only time I smoke
in the house is at the end of the night
when everyone's asleep, and I'll smoke a joint. But as
I'm rolling the joint, you know, especially because now I've
been rolling hasholes ever since we did that Hashold episode.
Speaker 9 (27:26):
And I got terrible weed, right, You've got terrible so
uh but while I roll it I have, I don't
smoke it just yet because it's not quite time to
go to bed.
Speaker 6 (27:34):
So I'll take it because now I'm like fucking almost
joning because like fuck, I just rolled this joint that
I want to smoke, So I smoke a bomb hit
until I go to bed and smoke my joint that
I just handled.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
So the bung hit is your prerequisite before the joint.
Speaker 4 (27:49):
Advertizer pretty much is the appia.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
The appetizer before the stake. Okay, I get it. I
like that.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Do you have a regimen like that too, Connor or
Daniel m because he's every night before bed smokes a
joint in bed.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
That's a good regimen.
Speaker 8 (28:03):
I mean I rip bong before I go to bed,
that's for damn sure.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
But do you still have to go to the car
to do that or could you do it in your house? Now?
Speaker 5 (28:11):
Uh No, I got a little system going.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
I don't have to uh.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
Go outside now cool?
Speaker 4 (28:17):
No more high school ripping. Do you have a billow? I?
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Well, he had a crazy household that the neighbor the
neighborhood wouldn't let him.
Speaker 5 (28:25):
Oh yeah, my my neighbors got like pissed one time,
like I billow dude.
Speaker 8 (28:29):
Yeah, literally, so I have I have like a little
smoke buddy, But I like blew out smoke one time
from like the like in my kitchen out onto the
back patio and then like I exhale.
Speaker 5 (28:42):
And then like three seconds like for ten seconds later,
I just hear the upstairs like sliding door like fucking slam, like.
Speaker 8 (28:50):
Like super loud, and they yelled at you, Well they
didn't yell, but like and then I like walk out
and the dad is just like glaring at me, straight
looking at me, like but that's my story.
Speaker 5 (29:05):
Do you have any anything else before?
Speaker 4 (29:06):
You know?
Speaker 7 (29:08):
I mean, I just use, you know, just like any
typical smoker I do. I use my bong literally before anything,
before I eat, after I eat, before I shop, after
I shit, for work, during work, after work, as long
as everything I do gets It's funny.
Speaker 6 (29:26):
Because you called Connor bong boy, but for me it's
Daniel because this guy rolls with the bomb in his
car at all times.
Speaker 4 (29:32):
I don't know. I've ever seen him not have a
bomb in his car, but.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
I've never rolled with him in the car to see.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
Him see him smoking a bomb.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
I always pull up on him doing it, but I've
never been in the car on a road trip with
him to see how he handles it, like Connor, you
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 10 (29:49):
I know.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
But and when we did the road trip, he was
in the back seat doing his own thing too, but
he was in the front seat driving, so as the driver,
and I was the past year I watched him do
his thing, which was like I've seen the ritual more
with Connor than with Daniels. So that's why he's labeled it.
But I do see it like Daniel's come to the
house and when he helped me put on my TV
to do some of the random theater. We go and
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we just went there's a few things around here, just chilling.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
Hey, he go in the car, riped one, ripped like
everything he just said.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Right before we ate, he went to the car, ripped one,
right before we did this, went to the swimming ripped.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
One like everything he just said.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
He did, Like he went to the car, he would
close up his car and take a boone rip. So
you're right, He's definitely the more bongboy than Connor for sure.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
But he's I mean just.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
More discreet though, like more just like he just goes
and does it. But Connor's is more of a bigger
thing because it's more of a production because he splits it.
So Connor has to do the tobacco. And I've watched
him under a whole brand new cigarette. Then I seen
him keep the tobacco, so it's a whole thing that
I watched him do. So therefore it was like, oh wow,
(30:56):
that's a fool on ritual, you know. I mean, like
I've never seen anybody do that. I never seen So
when you grab a cigarette from packet, slice it open,
take off it I mean, it was a whole thing
with them.
Speaker 8 (31:06):
You know what's funny is I think I think it
originates from the cigarette.
Speaker 5 (31:11):
Like in the Bay Area they call.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
It really they call it am moke.
Speaker 8 (31:16):
Maybe taco and uh and weed in there, and like
when I first took when I took my first one,
it was a guy from uh Walnut Creek who showed
me and like told me all about it.
Speaker 5 (31:29):
So my concept is it's a area thing.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
I mean, I'm sure it is. Most great things come
from the bank.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
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