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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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the full moon came out. I like that, but join
us today. Carlos Beta gun bra bragun. Get it right there,
Here is Carlos Batagan, a renowned tattoo artist that's been
putting down with the needle for over twenty years. You, guys,
low specializes in a black and gray realism style, but
(01:11):
don't get him twisted, folks. He's well versed in all
techniques from what is it calligraphy? How you said calligraphy
should be calligraphy of course and traditional and of course
he has earned veteran status in the industry with awards
as well as a full page article, features and magazines,
television segments, the whole nine. You can catch him doing
(01:31):
his thing over at Charlie's Tattoo Studio, located at three
sixteen East fourth Street in Santa Ana, California, the heart
of downtown over there in Santa Ana, Santanae Exactly. Charlie
is historically the city's very first tattoo studio and features
five inc masters ready to bring your concepts into reality.
To book an appointment, be sure to visit the website
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which is Los Underscore b A R R A G
A N underscore Tha T T the number two right there,
or give them a call directly seven one four five
nine to two five zero five four to get your
ink ready to day without further ado, Folks, lost is
(02:13):
in the building. Brother. Thank you for coming out here
man and hanging out with us. I know we're excited
to have you here as you're a local down the
street from us.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Absolutely, man, thank you for having mere no doubt.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
So what's the story? Where are you from? Exactly?
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Sanana born and raised, born and raised Santa Ana, raised
in those streets.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
And it's funny because you've been tattooing a lot of
cats for twenty years and you've been doing this. What
made you get into this? Bro?
Speaker 3 (02:39):
My dad?
Speaker 2 (02:40):
What do you mean?
Speaker 3 (02:41):
He was a tattoo artist?
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Shut up?
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Man, it runs into blood.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
So like he was at a shop or in prison
or where like where was your tattoo artist? Both? Was
he in the pinking like that was man?
Speaker 3 (02:53):
He did a nice uh he did a little stretch,
you know.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Okay, it's funny because you know us a lot of
us folks that's you know, especially like, oh he's been
doing that just a random guess, but.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
That's the first thing they asked, So, did you learn
in jail? No, No, I never said for the jail,
but I get the question.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
I mean, it's a terrible stereotype that we all get, right,
I mean either way, it's it's part of what we
have to deal with. And some of it's bullshit, but
some of its fucking reality.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
We take no offense to it.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Yeah, it's part of the show. Except Pops was doing it.
He learned and then he just taught you me. Oh,
he just kind of looked and watched, and.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Yeah, he taught me what he could. And he's a
great artist, you know. He the man was a sculpture.
I've seen him sculpt things out of wood, sculpe things
out of soap. He's an artist himself, and a good
one at that. And I'm not just saying it because
he's my dad, you know. But yeah, I learned what
I could from him, and then uh, I kind of
just took the reins and and developed my own style
(03:51):
into black and gray color traditional, you know, like I said,
like you mentioned, uh, we're well rounded in the in
the in the art, you know.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
So and it is an art because it's like it's
you fox something up like that, it's permanent on your body.
First off, yeah, man, I mean did that ever come
to mind where like, oh man, if I mess somebody up,
this is this is bad.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Yeah, it always comes to mind, and it happens more
often than not, you know, really, Oh yeah, you know what,
But don't you.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Trace it first and then go over it or you're
looking at somebody.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
The thing is there's coming pitfalls. You know, as a
twenty year veteran and artist, you know that there's coming
pitfalls and things happen, but you learn to pick up
and say, okay, cool, I'm gonna do this to that
and nothing happened, you.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Know, and they don't catch it and they're like no, no, no,
but you're you're going on oh ship, you can tell away.
Never that.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
But you see it and you're like, okay, cool, I've
been here before. Let's pick it up, you know.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Right, right right? So what made you first start? You
say your dad started? How did you first pick it up?
I know you started off sweeping floors in the tattoo shop.
If I'm not mistaken, No, you.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Know what I was actually in my I was in
my bad yard, you know. And I was drying stoned,
you know, drying and.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
It's funny, how Yeah, of course that's why he's here, folks,
because he's a smoke or he's a stoter. He smokes,
and it's just part of the gig.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
You know.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
So I'm you know, doing my thing, drying. Didn't have
no job, you know. My Dad's like, hey, so what
what what are you gonna do? You know, man, I
I don't, I don't know, you know, what did you tattoo?
I was like, all right, I'm gonna I'm gonna go
on ahead and save up some money and then and
get a kid, you know, see what we see what happens.
And the very next day he brought me a tattoo kid.
(05:34):
He said, hey, tattoo your homeboys, we'll go halves. All right,
let's do it. And we've been doing that for twenty
years and.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Away Poss still around helping you out with it.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Yeah, absolutely, man. And I'm glad my pap is like
my best friend, you know. And I'm very fortunate to
have them, both of my parents, you know, I'm very
fortunate to have both of them in the shop. Mom, Pops, brothers.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Oh, they're all work in the shop with you.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
My little brother's a tattoo artist.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
You know.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
My sister does piercing. She's been piercing for over twenty years.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
It's a family gig. You're all making money doing it.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Everybody gets fed.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
You know. As beautiful is that to have a family
career doing capturing. Notice everybody smoked to.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Everybody partakes some way or another, some way or another,
you know, whether it be at night or just to
relax and bring down the tension or whatever. We we
do what we gotta do.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
We all use cannabis and we all do the shop.
That's a fantastic story, los. How you guys, and so
Pop shows you to your first one? What was your
first tattoo? All right?
Speaker 3 (06:38):
So I had a friend. It was a lady, you know,
And then I pulled out the tattoo. K. I was
showing it off. Man, I just got this, my dad
brought this. But you know, I'm going to get started
in The girl goes, well, tattoo me. I said, oh, well,
let me let me, you know, get get.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Let me figure out how to plug this.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Yeah, And she's like okay, then she's connected and do
my tits. I was like, oh, hey, calm down, you know,
but we did. My first tattoo was was a set
of boobies, man, and what.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
You put on her x x O. Yeah, it's hard
to mess that up.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Yeah, no, no, no, we did good.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
We did exactly.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Know it was good. You know what, when I was tattooing,
I fell in love with the tattooing, not with the tits.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
All right, I'm just right that clear. I fell in
love with I grew a passion for tattooing, you know.
And that's why I've been I've been just slinging ink. Man.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
You know how long and how many would you say
you've done?
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Oh my god, thousands, thousands, thousands and thousands. You know what, man,
there was a time in my career. I don't do
that anymore. You know, there was a time in my
career where I like to say, the first maybe fifteen
years of my career, I was tattooing from eleven am
to three am. I kid you not, bro, five six
(08:04):
different people. H just wait, you know, eat once a day,
twice a day, sneak it in while I'm while I'm tattooing. Yeah, man,
you know, so it's thousands thousands.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Thousands, And as you say that, are you taking the
smoke breaks? Are you using the cannabis to help you
through it? All?
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Louly? You know what, we get major back pains. All
my tattoo artists, please stand up.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Yeah, exactly, all bent overall.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Yeah, you know so, uh yeah, you know, I definitely
had to take my little, my little smoke breaks.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
You know, as you're doing these tattoos loose and you
do the first one on a nice little chee chee
the xox. So that's so funny to say that because
I could already see it. I said, I don't know
how many we've seen on the net, whatever, whatever, that's it.
I'd love some simple one. What's the biggest craziest tattoo
that you've ever done? It's taking you the most time?
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Uh you know what?
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Man?
Speaker 3 (08:53):
I tattooed Michael Frankel. He was a professional boxer retired
now he trains in the I E. Good dude, I
did this whole back. It was like a twelve hour
city I I won't be doing a past eight hours now, bro.
You know that really took a toll on my back.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Will that be two days?
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Though?
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Three days?
Speaker 3 (09:16):
How many I mean, yeah, I'll do like now, I
do eight hours and if it takes more then we'll
book another day, you know.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
But you'll go eight hours straight on something.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
Yeah, yeah, with breaks, you know, I gotta go and
stuff like that. You know, I gotta get my little
smoke break in.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Do you know ahead of time, like when you're looking
at this going this may take us a You're able
to look at whatever it is, and this will take
me this amount of time. Yeah. Wow, that's the art
of this experience though.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Yeah, man, that's just great. You're learning how to do
all this stuff and coming out with that. So Santa Anna,
I'm born and raised.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
I'm born and raised.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Where'd you go to school?
Speaker 3 (09:51):
I went to a you know what. In elementary I
went to Hoover, Santiago, Washington. I stayed in one school
for my middle school and that was Spurgeon. And then
in high school, I was jumping around, you know, but
I went to sant Outa high school. I went to
Valley and handed up. I sees the childis that was
(10:14):
a good school man. Had some amazing teachers. You know.
Miss Clayton shout out to you. You know, she always
seemed she actually kept one of my drawings because I
was always drawing in school. You know, she said, can
I keep this there? Go ahead, Miss Clayton. She was,
she was good.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
So popping around different high schools, you're getting kicked out.
I'm gonna assume her, Yeah, you didn't voluntarily.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Okay, So found some cannabis on me.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
I want to go there and talk about how a
lot of people listening maybe have been kicked out of
schools looking for what they're gonna do, and a guy
like yourself lows smoking weed, getting kicked out of schools,
and now you've been doing tattooing for twenty plus years,
the whole family. It's a business. You've learned the business.
(10:57):
But I want to talk about those trials when you
were young, younger going oh no, just to you know,
bend the whole basically, yeah, sitting there getting kicked out,
because you don't wish that on anybody. I'm sure, I'm hoping,
I'm thinking, but you know, I want to hear that
testimonial of how it went from that to this. What
was that crossing point? We're going to talk about that
we come back. It's cannabis talk, one on one. We'll
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be right back after this break.
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Follow Carlos at Los Underscore Batagun Underscore tat number two
right there, not the number signed, just tattoo at the end.
And Los, I was saying this because you opened up
and said you went to a different bunch of schools
and now you found yourself in a career for over
twenty years. Now your dad gets you into it. Your
dad had some troubles, you said, he learned doing tattoos incarcerated.
(12:16):
So there's some trials there, right, there's a lot of
trials going. And let's just face it, guys like us
come from my brother or like I've been in jail,
we all had some troubles in times where you get
troubles and you find your way out. What was yours
that you found your way and found this career?
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Man? You know what in school I was school, Like
I was telling one of the fellows, back in school
wasn't really for me. You know. I went and I
got promoted and I did good.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
I'm graduating.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
B's No, I did not graduate at all. I went
junior year and that was a you know, but school
wasn't for me, you know. And my mom's probably gonna
hate this when she sees, you know, but that's all right,
you know, SA.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
You didn't graduate me over, you know.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
But no, I did not graduate. School was not for me.
Nothing against education. If you like to study, you like
to do your thing, follow it, pursue it, nothing wrong
with it, you know. It just wasn't for me, you know.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
And it just goes to show that there's a lot
of people out there like yourself, that there's successful individual
doing something for twenty plus years at a real.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Career, at a real career, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
And you're feeding, like you said, your entire family, your
little brother, your sister, mom's dad, everybody's doing it. So
keep going the transition. How does it happen. Where do
you see it?
Speaker 3 (13:40):
You know what? Man, I was always in school, I
was drying, drying. You couldn't get me to do my homework,
but I was always drying. Even my teachers.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Every class. You're in math class, drawing, bridge or whatever.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
I started drawing the horses up on the thing. I
start looking at the teacher. I started drawing her, doing
her name.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
You're in history, and started drawing whoever I'll draw George.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Washington, buddy can get it, you know.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
But yeah, man, were you left you by the way too?
By the way, are you usually your left hand? Uh no,
I'm okay, yeah, okay that this.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
One was available to exactly.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Yeah, I can do it. Left you?
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Yeah, we can walk in chew gun exactly. But yeah,
in high school. In high school, I just uh I
I pursued something with art, you know, and I knew it.
And now you know what there's I don't just do tattoos.
I get commissioned drawings. People say, hey, my dad passed away,
can you do this drawing? And I make a fair
amount of change, you know, I charge up to thirty
(14:34):
five hundred five thousand for a drawing in GRAPHI charcoal
you know. So it's uh, it's it's been a passion
of mine. And I always knew in high school, I said,
you know what, this is what it's going to be.
You know, it was in me since I was a
little kid. I Uh, I would turn on the chat
Bob Ross. My dad would catch me. I would have
(14:54):
a hard time going to bed at night. I'd be
watching Bob Ross and my Dad's like, you want me
to send you to school? Was no, not really, not
for art, you know, but uh, I always knew it was.
It was it was art, you know. And in high school,
you know what, we just it wasn't for me. We
left that there and got a job. I did a
(15:16):
job and I was stuck to dry. I was a slave.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
It was a job.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
I did machining. Man, I did machining, and then I
worked for a mining company. It was called Great Basin Environmental.
I had a good experience with a man. We used
to travel across across the country, you know, put us
in different in different uh states, and then we would
go and and and mine. Not mining for coal, you know,
(15:42):
but we would go and we would set up these
plastic tarps for some acids that they pull out of
mountains so that they wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Labor though, yeah you're labor, Yeah, your labor.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
I had to pick up some labor and uh. And
even when I was doing that, I go back to
the hotel draw. It was always in there, smoke and draw, absolutely,
smoking and drawing.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
The cannabis helps it all. Helps with the pain after
working hard all day, helps with the creativity.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
Aativity.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
That's awesome that you did that. And then how old
were you when you got the tattoo and then you
did that first tattoo on her? I was eighteen eighteen,
so basically when you would be graduating from high school.
And is that when you started officially tattooing too. Yeah,
from that first girl on a.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Girl on the HOMI saw right there in the backyard,
and I had a line you know, every weekend.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
It was like a movie.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
It was like a I'm looking at a movie man,
you know. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
And that is just funny and such a story to
tell because lost, like a lot of people out there,
my dad never graduated from high school, you know what
I mean. And he worked hardcore rest in peace. He
just it was a hardcore worker, drove truck whatever he
had to do. But he didn't have that where he
found his career like that. So when I hear about
(17:05):
guys like you, there's a lot of people out there
that's not my story. I went to school and I
did my thing, but I am so proud and like,
look at it going, there's still a path. You don't
have to be this fucking guy that oh the poor me,
or I have nothing. I can only do no find
what your lane is. Yeah, I mean it's not school
(17:27):
for everyone.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
It's not.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
I don't think it's And I'm not the guy at
school for everyone. I think everybody can could You can
never take my degree away from me, you know what
I mean? But and you can't take your art away from.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
You, you know what I'm saying that.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
And it's the same concept, right, So I look at
that same concept. I have my degree, cool, you have
your art talent? Cool. It's like, oh, that's what you do.
And so for cats out there that are listening are wondering, going, fuck,
I have a hard time with school too. Or I'm
young and I like to smoke weed, and I like
to get creative and I like to draw and I
like to do this. Was it scary for you to
(17:58):
be like, Nope, I'm not going to do that. I'm
gonna do this like I have this job making money,
doing labor is my you know, but my dad buys
me this kid, am I gonna go out in faith
and be like, no, I can really do this because
at the time you're not thinking. Twenty years later, you're
damn you're running a shot. You're doing all these you know,
(18:18):
famous people, this and that, Like you didn't think that
back then. You're just fucking a young kid at eighteen
years old going equally equally.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
Yo, No, you know what we really did. We left.
I left the job and I dedicated to just I
dedicated myself to just tattooing tattoo tattoo tattoo. The passion
turned into profit. And you guys can do it too,
you know, anybody can. You gotta find your niche find it,
let it kill you. And that's the saying. Whoever came
(18:52):
up with it props to you, you know, but you
gotta find your passion and make it give you profit.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Low sure and inspiration for a lot of people all
out there that you know what I mean that that
uh that are in your shoes. Let's just face it.
We look at statistically young. It doesn't matter who they are,
let alone Latinos. But you know what I mean, why
everybody has a lot of dropouts, you know what I
mean that don't finish the school. But it's just finding
that lane. And for you to find your lane, dog,
that's that's an inspirational story.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
Think you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
And I'm happy for you, proud for you. You know, it's like, dude,
this is a young dude. That's you know, it's not
for everybody, but he's found his way and did his niche. So,
what was your first tattoo? Then?
Speaker 3 (19:30):
My first tattoo? My oh, my first tattoo was a
little legal in the back. Why the eagle because of
the roots, you know, Latino Mexicano, right, That's what it was.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
That's dope I got. I got ego. My first one
was ego feathers right here too, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I
got ego feathers more for yeah, exactly. Yeah. Yeah. It's
a choker with thes and win a big old Indian
from Nebraska. So and my parents weren't all like happy
about it. And my dad's old school. His first tattoo
is one of the and you know what I mean,
he got there. He was that type of era, you
know what I mean, and uh, they were like, oh man,
(20:06):
I'm gonna get tattooed. And then when I got my
first tattoo, my mom was like, oh, we got one
for the heritage. It was like they were happy, you
know what I mean, like, oh yeah, because I had
my whole Native American Indian costume. When I went to
pow Wow, I was the whole nine. So I had
like my you know I used to go to. I
was a drummer at first and a fancy dancer. So
when I got this, it was more like spiritual, like dude, no,
(20:27):
I want to show off my Native American history and
just you know this and now on that I'm forty
six percent Native American, his you know, Native American. So
it's like I have a lot more than that Indian
in me than anything else cool, which is which is
more random than not. After I did the fucking you
know who am I bloody Yeah, the DNA bullshit, which
still shocks me each other's day, I'm like, fuck to
(20:47):
be getting paid for exactly I live into it. So
my dad had his tribal number from the Winnibago tribe
in Nebraska. He has his. And then when I called
him because I was his descent and he's been passed
for you know, twenty four years whatever, when I trying
to realize I need to inquire more, they didn't have
(21:08):
it to where the kids of the people could do
it yet, but they were about to change it to
I was supposed to call it last year, and I
still I need to make another call. I saved the
number and ending, I mean, like two years, what kind
of need that this? Here's my I still have it.
Here's my dad's number, here's my whoop you woop, and
my mom. I tried to track hers down, but she
passed a long time ago too. I couldn't figure it
(21:28):
all out. But yeah, I'm a foster one. But still,
but my point is having that first one was like
that just prideful, you know, boom and as you said, Eagle,
like that's that made me think of I have feathers
like to Latin and Indian, that's like both ways. They
both touch each other so much. Anyway, it's like they
were both here on this fucking land before everybody else.
(21:50):
Before Columbus said, you guys, get over there, there's Mexico.
You guys stay here and call these tribes and these reservations.
You guys get this country over there. But you know,
same concepts. So so then how many do you have? Now? Man,
I see you're you're you're inked that quiteably blasted. Man.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
I got the back of my head, whole neck top.
I need my belly. I got some on my leg.
You know, I gotta say I probably got like maybe
forty six percent of my body left.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
You know, really, and as you do it, where's the
one that hurt the most?
Speaker 3 (22:22):
Oh? Man, my ribs, ribs, my ribs. Bro, the neck
was cake. Don't let that scare you.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Guys.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
They go do the neck. Don't do the face. One neck,
it's all right, but the ribs. I want to test you, bro, really,
it'll test you. Man.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Did you did in the inside of the arm? I
got the inside, Yeah, I got the inside of my arm.
I thought that was a little pinchy, agnoying, like it's
annoying the ribs. I think I turned pale on that one.
Oh man, I needed a coke. Oh, don't say coke
around me. I've been sober a long time, but not
that long. We're gonna come back levels. We're gonna find
out where's the craziest place you ever tattooed? Bud. It's
(23:00):
Cannabis Talk one oh one. Follow your career as folks.
We'll be right back after this break.
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is here an award winning tattoo artists of Charlie's Tattoo Studio.
Before we went to break Los, I said, where's the
crazy place she ever tattooed somebody? Your first one was
on a lady friend of yours boob? But where was
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there a tattoo that you were like, holy shit, you
want me to tattoo this? And has there ever been
somebody to ask you to do a tattoo somewhere?
Speaker 3 (24:17):
And you said no, absolutely, man, Well, you know I
tattooed vaginas.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
You know, when you say vaginas, there's a lot of
area of the vagina that I think about. I think
of the top part, I think of the side, you
know what part of the vagina? Like is there's things
that they do a whole round.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
The multiple and you know I did a top of
the click and then we went around the labya. You know,
we've done our fair share of gynecology, you know, And when.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
They asked you to do that, is it like whoa?
I mean, how many have you done like that?
Speaker 3 (24:55):
I can count them with my hand. Bro maybe about no,
you know what has been like.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
Three of them? Like and is it strange and weird
to like, Okay, that's what you want to do. That's
what you want to do. Are they girls?
Speaker 3 (25:06):
You know?
Speaker 2 (25:06):
Are they just no? No, No, they were customer, just random.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
Customer, just random guess that came into the shop.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
Man, wow, yeah, you know what, like, was it nervous?
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Like, okay, are clean because tattooing.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
It says that, No, I'm no stranger to vagina.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
There, Yeah, there's that too, okay yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
No, no, no, you know what it was. Uh, you
know what we're like we mentioned earlier. You know, it's
a family environment. My mom, my dad, sisters are there,
you know, so they come in. It's a it's a
very professional area, you know, so they're not going to
come in and.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Right, it's not like you feel weird about that. He lose.
I kind of want to hook up with you anyways.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
Yeah there, you could beat you up, you know. So. Yeah,
so you've done the vagina, done the vagina.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
So now that's great. And now what about has there
ever been a tattoo where you're like, no, I'm not
going to do that one? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (25:57):
Man, that dick and you know, I I it's just
it's hard because it has to be hard to tattoo, bro.
You know, so with me tattooing. It's just it ain't
gonna work out.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Like, I'm not a fluffer homie. Yeah, someone, some people
have really got their dick tattooed.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
Oh absolutely really Yeah, giving me the stomach ache right
now just thinking about it. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Man, So people have asked you, hey, Carlo Goes, when
you tattooed my dick whatever? Whatever?
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Yeah, and you say no, I say, I'm sorry, I'm
not the artist for you.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Man. How close have you.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
Had guys that get the inside of the thigh, I
mean the balls and we go pretty close down to
you know below.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Right above the penis, yeah, yeah, pelvis area.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
Yeah, but when it comes down to the you know,
just shaft and all that, I'm not gonna go there.
You know, it's hard because because it has to.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Be hard hard. That's crazy when you think about like
I think it's almost a joke, but I thought it
would not be even real that people really do that. Yeah,
I've never seen a penis tattoo.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
I feel right now I'm about to google.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
How weird is it that I kind of want to
google it just because I'd never really seen them with
my eyes.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
Now you're curious.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Now I'm curious, Yeah, like who, and like, have you
seen one? No, exactly, I've never seen one either, and
not only in real life, but I don't even online.
And now I don't want I kind of don't even
want my search engine to have that on my connor
can you we look it up on your computer?
Speaker 3 (27:32):
You know, I got I got homeboys that I tattooed,
and they're like, hey, no, the dudes in jail they
got it. You know, they got their whole tattooed. You know, really,
you know, that's all they see in jail, So I
kind of believe them, you know, Yeah, well they're in
the shower.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
You know, it's all the group showers. I mean, it
goes down like that. So you have the crazy ones,
you have ones like that. Has there ever been somebody
that comes in there and does the I want this
on me and you're like, dude, I can't do that either.
I'm not going to do whether it's a swastika or
I don't know, something that's just morally against something that
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you do.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
You know what, when it comes to something for me morally,
I really won't tattoo like La morte.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
That's just between for those who don't know that's explain exactly.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
What that is something. It's a solely death, the saint
to death. You know. I just don't tattoo those. I
tattooed schools, which are kind of big, like a lot
of people have those though, absolutely, So that's random that
you won't do that one, because I thought I was saying,
wasn't that in Coco the movie too?
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Everything we've seen it all over the place, I mean.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
The sugar schools. Okay, So there's a difference the sometime,
you know, it's it's it's completely different. And you could
tell the people that come in and get my respects
to it. You know, I'm not afraid of it.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
I'm not.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
It's just a promise that I have between me and
my God, and and that was my.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
That's interesting, dog, that you have something like that. That's
the one you're like, no, I won't do that. Somebody's like,
I want to put a kill fucking bill on my shoulder.
You're like, all right, whatever, machine gun and they're shooting
the city. Okay, no problem, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
No, no, yeah, yeah, I like not going through those
you know. Yeah, those and then those what are they
called them? There's another a different type of tattoo. Just
last week, one of my guests flew in from Ohio. Hey,
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this is what I want. This is what it is,
and it's super biometric. And I'm like, bro, I am
not the artist for you, dog. I mean, look at
my work. This is what I do. We can do this,
we can do that. And he's like, oh man, this
is really what I wanted. But I I am more
comfortable that you told me this that way. We don't
just wing it. I'm like, yeah, cool. He's like, okay, cool,
then let's do something.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
So someone's listening right now and they go, this, dude,
sounds interesting. I like them. What is it exactly that
you specialize in that You're like, dude, I might I
kind of sit at the beginning of the grays and
the blacks. But how would you explain it if you
were telling people when it comes to photo realism, I
really enjoy what I do. You know, I could look
at a setting, like if I somebody takes a picture
(30:08):
of us right now, I can execute the same portrait
on the tattoo, the same scenery, same everything, to the tea,
the cup, cell phones, everything will be right.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
On photorealism, really.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Yeah, so you can mock whatever you see basically the settings,
the sculpture, whatever, that's your gig mostly best at that.
And what do you have preferably on your body? Mostly
just things that.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
I was passionate about growing up. You know, my kids' names, money,
a spray can because it started there too, you know.
And then the tattoo machine, and there's a microphone. I
love music, you know, music and the herb and my pencil.
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It all goes together to create some beautiful on skin,
you know. So we got that. Then we that Orange
County under there, Orange County. Then my kids portraits, mom's names,
the Bible, just things like that. You know, nothing.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
That's funny that you do that. I everything that I
have too is more spirit like meaning something to me too.
I have just big things out on my body as
well that are like the most meaningful things I didn't do,
like a dolphin or something random like, oh I just
want to do this, but you know, God bless those
who do maybe something to them.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
How many tramp stamps have you done? Are those still popular?
Speaker 1 (31:32):
Na?
Speaker 3 (31:33):
They're not? But uh, you know what one of my
buddies did one like two weeks ago. I think they're
coming back.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
I heard they are.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
Actually I heard they were coming back. I think they're
coming back, man, right.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
Yeah, it's like the O G chicks you see with
the tramp stamp on. You're like, ooh, she's nice. I
like what. As a matter of fact, Jennifer's getting one
of those. I think she wants to get another one.
That's why she's over her ear hustling. Hold on, Kenny,
you get a picture of a pit right here, a bulldog.
Alrightp But I don't know where I came up a
bit right now. I just like over there and thought
of them. That'd be so awesome right there. So I
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actually do the high five. We like to do the
high five with everybody that comes in. Low said, we
like to hear about the things that you're doing. But actually,
before we do that, I know you're concerned about a
lot of newbies coming into the tattoo game. What are
you so concerned about when you say that, I've seen
that in your job.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
You just do it right, you know, do it right.
Come down to the tattoo shop. We can give you
guidance to do it the right way, you know, so
you're not just exposing because I know a lot of
people like to start off at their house. You don't
know what type of stuff you're bringing into your crab man.
(32:39):
HEPSI aides all that stuff. Man, you're bringing it into
your house. If if you are married and you're starting
the tattoo, you got kids, you're bringing stuff like that
to your crab man, you know. And that was my concern.
There's a lot of badass artists out there, man, and
my respects to you guys. I do not feel threatened
with competition or with other dudes coming into tattoo that
are better than I am. I thrive off of people
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that are better than.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
Me, you know.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
But when I say my concern with newbies, it's that
be careful what you bring into your crib man, you know.
And I say it with the blood borne pathogens type
of stuff, you know, come to the shop. We'll break
things down for you and we can point you in
the in the right direction.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
You know. That was my conswern That's a good one though,
because a lot of people think, oh, I could just
get this done here, Oh my homie could do it.
We have at we ordered one off Amazon. Yeah, No,
I'm good to go.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
You gotta be careful. You could order it off Amazon,
you know, but you can't take back HEPSI. You can't
take back AIDS, you can't take back HIV. You gotta
be careful with that stuff.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
And those are real things that could happen absolutely because
you're dealing with blood. You're penetrating the body and if
you're not cleaning properly, you're not using the proper tools.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
Yeah, you grab it. You know, you're you're tattooing your
phone rings. You go and you touch it things infected,
you know. I, for one, and I try to make
it a habit of a for the artists at the shop.
I try to lead them by example. I go get
tested every six months due to the fact that we're
dealing with with blood borne pathogen.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
You know.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
That's why I'm clean Every six months. Every six months,
I try to get tested HIV HEPSI. I want to
know that I'm good.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
You know that.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
I never thought that that would be some concern for
tattoo artists.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
Oh it is for me.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
It's a real concern. As you say that, hell yeah
it should be.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
It really should be. And that is my concern for
new beause you got to know how to conduct yourself
in in that area. You know, as far as the articles,
bring it in, man.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
You know, bring it in. It's hits you the right
way and show you how to do it clean and
proper and respectful. Well, I love that, Carlos h Once again,
if you want to go to find out where a
shop is, check them out online at Charlie's Tattoo dot Com.
Follow him at lows Underscore about a guy Underscore tat
and then number two high five time lows. How old
(35:04):
are you the first time he smoked cannabis? And where'd
you get it from?
Speaker 3 (35:07):
Man? All right, so check this out. Lived in a
mobile home park, right, My dad has his business, he's
at work. I'm skating and the man who is now
my brother in law. You know, he must have been
like sixteen at the time. I'm twelve on a skateboard. Hi, hey,
come here, what's upfol Hit this real quick?
Speaker 2 (35:30):
Nah?
Speaker 3 (35:30):
My dad just thinking, Hi, he's gonna find out. You'll
be all right? Dog. There I go off of these
little pieces they used to set out the AMPM. You
remember those little key chain ones right right right right
right there? You grab he's out here, hit this boom,
I grab it, but I was tripping balls. Go to
my grandma's house, start watching The Lion King, bro Simple dying,
(35:52):
Simbols dying. I'm tripping out. Somebody help O.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
Do you know what I'm saying? Bro, I'm still again.
Attacked by King is one of the best movies by far. Anyway,
I get you emotional even if you're not stone. You
can get emotional watching that shit, no matter what, unless
you just I don't have a heart. That's a good
That's a great movie. Actually, it really is. It really is,
especially when they did the remake, like when they made
(36:17):
it real. Like, that's just one of those movies that
I can watch over and over. Yeah, Like I love
when my kids want to watch that. I want to
go to the Irvine Spectrum. They're gonna show it on
the Sunday Night movies to watch it. Oh, it's such
a great one. Good stories. So that was the first time.
I what a good time to have twelve years old. Huh,
that's great. And the brother in law now gave it
now he took my sister. How random and funny is
(36:39):
that now he's family? What is there Her favorite way
to use cannabis.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
Flower joint? Absolutely, absolutely it always will be man these
edibles for me. I gotta check my heart rate in
a little bit, make sure I'm still alived.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
You know.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
The flower will always be my friend.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
Just a nice good flower joint. So many people are
Question number three of the High five with los, what's
the craziest place you ever used or smoked cannabis?
Speaker 3 (37:10):
The craziest place, man, I went to church Stone one time, bro,
I was tripping. You know, they talk about Nah, I
shouldn't even be here right now. You know, that's probably
one of my not a good place to.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
Be Sonny I said that to back in the day.
I remember going to youth group and just a lot
of us were smoking and just going to church and
be smoking at the church, and we're just a bunching dump.
Yeah the high back here. Let's just sit back of
the church. Why not. They're drinking wine. Let's just get
high too, and.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
You use that, you know, yeah, why not wine out
of water? It's just all right.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
You could just start tripping there too, your mind and
then you see Jesus all stable over there. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:57):
No, not the best place, you know, it's fun.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
Question numberfore the High five, what's your go too, munchies
after you get high. Green or red, definitely green, chicken, beef, pork.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
Cheese, cheese, and chi lies cheese. Man, just a nice
green cheese, and she lies cheese too.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
You can see, of course cheese in the middle on
top the whole nine. It's surrounded with cheese. Oh, you're
making me hungry for something right now? Oh there's you know.
I like green or red.
Speaker 3 (38:32):
It doesn't matter to me, but it's definitely me too,
prejudice exact reference.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
It's funny, though, preference for me too is green, if
which one you want to But lately, for some weird reason,
maybe it's the chili Colorado. I want to do something
with the red in it too, though sometimes you know
what I mean, Like the red is like that old
school flavor of like, let me taste how good it is.
I gotta avoid him Tattoo. Ironically his name, remember Tattoo,
for I remember my homeboy Tattoo. He has been on
(38:59):
the show before here and I talk all the time.
He's still great friends. But as I say, chili corlado.
The way he can tell if a Mexican restaurant's good
is by ordering their chili cordlorado. Like he always needs
to test it. Like if it's a good Mexican restaurant,
they'll have chili corlorado and I gotta try it there.
That's cool, And tattoo is the all that's all random.
I bring him up right now, question number five with
(39:21):
a high five. Carlos Betagan tattoo award winning dude. Go
check him out. Of course, if you want to get
a tattoo, you know you can smoke there. You know
you can hang out with him. But if you could
smoke cannabis with anyone dead or alive, who would it be?
And why?
Speaker 3 (39:38):
Man, I'd have to say, I'd have to say Tupac.
You know, probably get high with Tupac. And why the
man was prolific. I'd like to take in his head
a little bit, you know. That's fine.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
Yeah, he's definitely one of those dudes that we hear
a lot of. I mean, he's one of the cats
that you know, he's ahead of his time, the way ahead.
I mean, the dude could spit like nobody else, so
much energy. Just it's so random and its weird feeling. Yeah,
you know, so it did it have to be put
another random? Who's your inspiration? That you look at going
(40:11):
tattoo artists like that. Dude is fucking sick too.
Speaker 3 (40:15):
Like I really fans guy as an artist. Yeah, man,
who's well rounded.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (40:23):
I'd have to say, there's a lot of them, a
whole lot of them, bro. You know here in the US.
One that's sticks out like a sore thumb. And I'd
have to say, is Nico you know color black and
Gray's good, got my respects as an artist and as
a man, super humble. Where's I believe he's an Uplin? Okay,
(40:46):
I believe he's an Uplin ironic, I've never heard of him. Okay,
He's a good artist.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
And then you know, like international artists that just because
it's crazy, there's tattoo artists that get paid a lot
of money, a lot, I mean cartoons made a big
fucking stamp for US lat you know, it's in the game.
From doing eminems the fifty, you know, there's just been
like iconic names that have shows on fucking Netflix and
(41:12):
documentaries and ship like.
Speaker 3 (41:13):
No, you know what, man, Nico o'talo. He's a good artist.
But like I said, there's a lot of cartoon one
of them with the black and gray, you know, and
then you're thinking.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
To put that black and gray on the international map.
Speaker 3 (41:24):
He put La on the map. He put a Latinos
on the map. Even with what he's doing now with
you know, on the cans, you know, laying it out.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
I mean he's the commercials with fucking Beever Beer company.
I think it's Corona or something.
Speaker 3 (41:39):
You know, I believe it Corona.
Speaker 2 (41:40):
Yeah, which was dope to see, like, wow, tattoo artists
getting sponsored like that with international commercials and.
Speaker 3 (41:46):
The Latino at that at that you know, we we
don't get as much credit as we should.
Speaker 2 (41:52):
And Esteban for always recording that ship back in the day. Yeah,
I love that, you know those did oh yeah, yeah,
I go way back with those guys when I worked
at Power one six and those dudes were just fucking
o gez. It's just funny when you think like Steban,
like he was just recording shit and you never didn't know,
and that it was like that shit's classic gold footage,
like dude, right, yeah, dude, he did all kinds of stuff,
(42:15):
but he had it on the big disc, you know,
the eight tracks, but you know it was before nowadays
everything's digital. But like to think nobody was recording that
shit back then. I hate it too, because I did
so much stuff back in the day. It was like, damn,
I wish I would have recorded everything you can now
It's yeah, everybody could be famous now. I'm like, dude,
if I had all this shit I've done in the past.
And you even look at the early stuff of like
(42:36):
because all those times go back to even like a
be Real b Real was hanging out with those dudes
early on too, and they have the footage of them
being around and the early cypress, the early hip hop
concerts that you didn't even know were recorded, and it's
like that step On get It and that stuff one
was with all those dudes like that, the cartoons and
all that fucking of l A. You're like, whoa, these
(42:57):
dudes are the ogs. And now you're kind of like
the young that's still twenty plus years around. You're about
that io now of like, you know, you get your respect,
you get your love, and we've earned it. You've earned it, though,
and that's what I love about it because you see
our community and you realize that, you know, this is
a part of who we are. Right, Like I said,
my dad had a little cross on his hand right here,
(43:18):
you know what I mean, Like, we come from that,
and when I see artists like yourself, I respect it
and like I appreciate it. I'm glad you're on our
platform to show people because it's a different lane. Right.
It's like, and some people will judge and raise, Oh,
this fucking tolo whatever, right, who's this tattoo fucking monkey
dick whatever? Right, especially if you go to fucking certain areas,
(43:41):
it's just bad. But it's not like bad because what
is there's a respectful fucking artist who has a career
that tattoos people for a living. When you used to
see people with tattoos on the head and this has
been oh, no, scary. And now these dudes are movie stars,
they're this yor that, and you're like, wow, there's a
full on lane for this.
Speaker 3 (44:01):
Absolutely, So I like to make it normalize.
Speaker 2 (44:04):
And that's why I'm so happy you're on this show
to be like, not only is he a tattoo artist
that's providing for his family that all of them work together,
but they are also cannabis users, normalizing the plants. They
all use it to help with the pains that they
go through at work. And for recreational.
Speaker 3 (44:21):
It definitely has his medical medicinal purposes, you know.
Speaker 2 (44:25):
So it's good it is, brother. Is there anything else
that you forgot that we didn't mention anything that you
want to mention on the podcast before we let you
go those.
Speaker 3 (44:31):
No, man, We're good. I thank you guys for having
me my boy camp come film, no doubt.
Speaker 2 (44:39):
Thank you guys for I think Cam wants to work
on one of those penis tattoos too. I can see
him getting excited. He's got he's got the bear. Have
you seen the beer on his stomach? You know you've
got a big old beer on his stomach, right, He's
got to get a tattoo on his stomach. It's Cannabis
Talk one on one. Remember this. If nobody else loves you,
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Blues not here today. He partied a little too hard
last night apparently. I guess it was Moon's birthday and
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the full moon came out. I like that, but join
us today. Carlos Beta gun bra bragun. Get it right there,
Here is Carlos Batagan, a renowned tattoo artist that's been
putting down with the needle for over twenty years. You, guys,
low specializes in a black and gray realism style, but
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don't get him twisted, folks. He's well versed in all
techniques from what is it calligraphy? How you said calligraphy
should be calligraphy of course and traditional and of course
he has earned veteran status in the industry with awards
as well as a full page article, features and magazines,
television segments, the whole nine. You can catch him doing
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his thing over at Charlie's Tattoo Studio, located at three
sixteen East fourth Street in Santa Ana, California, the heart
of downtown over there in Santa Ana, Santanae Exactly. Charlie
is historically the city's very first tattoo studio and features
five inc masters ready to bring your concepts into reality.
To book an appointment, be sure to visit the website
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Charlie's Tattoo dot com. Follow Los at Los Underscore Batagan
which is Los Underscore b A R R A G
A N underscore Tha T T the number two right there,
or give them a call directly seven one four five
nine to two five zero five four to get your
ink ready to day without further ado, Folks, lost is
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in the building. Brother. Thank you for coming out here
man and hanging out with us. I know we're excited
to have you here as you're a local down the
street from us.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Absolutely, man, thank you for having mere no doubt.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
So what's the story? Where are you from? Exactly?
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Sanana born and raised, born and raised Santa Ana, raised
in those streets.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
And it's funny because you've been tattooing a lot of
cats for twenty years and you've been doing this. What
made you get into this? Bro?
Speaker 3 (02:39):
My dad?
Speaker 2 (02:40):
What do you mean?
Speaker 3 (02:41):
He was a tattoo artist?
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Shut up?
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Man, it runs into blood.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
So like he was at a shop or in prison
or where like where was your tattoo artist? Both? Was
he in the pinking like that was man?
Speaker 3 (02:53):
He did a nice uh he did a little stretch,
you know.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Okay, it's funny because you know us a lot of
us folks that's you know, especially like, oh he's been
doing that just a random guess, but.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
That's the first thing they asked, So, did you learn
in jail? No, No, I never said for the jail,
but I get the question.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
I mean, it's a terrible stereotype that we all get, right,
I mean either way, it's it's part of what we
have to deal with. And some of it's bullshit, but
some of its fucking reality.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
We take no offense to it.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Yeah, it's part of the show. Except Pops was doing it.
He learned and then he just taught you me. Oh,
he just kind of looked and watched, and.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Yeah, he taught me what he could. And he's a
great artist, you know. He the man was a sculpture.
I've seen him sculpt things out of wood, sculpe things
out of soap. He's an artist himself, and a good
one at that. And I'm not just saying it because
he's my dad, you know. But yeah, I learned what
I could from him, and then uh, I kind of
just took the reins and and developed my own style
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into black and gray color traditional, you know, like I said,
like you mentioned, uh, we're well rounded in the in
the in the art, you know.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
So and it is an art because it's like it's
you fox something up like that, it's permanent on your body.
First off, yeah, man, I mean did that ever come
to mind where like, oh man, if I mess somebody up,
this is this is bad.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Yeah, it always comes to mind, and it happens more
often than not, you know, really, Oh yeah, you know what,
But don't you.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Trace it first and then go over it or you're
looking at somebody.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
The thing is there's coming pitfalls. You know, as a
twenty year veteran and artist, you know that there's coming
pitfalls and things happen, but you learn to pick up
and say, okay, cool, I'm gonna do this to that
and nothing happened, you.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Know, and they don't catch it and they're like no, no, no,
but you're you're going on oh ship, you can tell away.
Never that.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
But you see it and you're like, okay, cool, I've
been here before. Let's pick it up, you know.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Right, right right? So what made you first start? You
say your dad started? How did you first pick it up?
I know you started off sweeping floors in the tattoo shop.
If I'm not mistaken, No, you.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Know what I was actually in my I was in
my bad yard, you know. And I was drying stoned,
you know, drying and.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
It's funny, how Yeah, of course that's why he's here, folks,
because he's a smoke or he's a stoter. He smokes,
and it's just part of the gig.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
You know.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
So I'm you know, doing my thing, drying. Didn't have
no job, you know. My Dad's like, hey, so what
what what are you gonna do? You know, man, I
I don't, I don't know, you know, what did you tattoo?
I was like, all right, I'm gonna I'm gonna go
on ahead and save up some money and then and
get a kid, you know, see what we see what happens.
And the very next day he brought me a tattoo kid.
(05:34):
He said, hey, tattoo your homeboys, we'll go halves. All right,
let's do it. And we've been doing that for twenty
years and.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Away Poss still around helping you out with it.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Yeah, absolutely, man. And I'm glad my pap is like
my best friend, you know. And I'm very fortunate to
have them, both of my parents, you know, I'm very
fortunate to have both of them in the shop. Mom, Pops, brothers.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Oh, they're all work in the shop with you.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
My little brother's a tattoo artist.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
You know.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
My sister does piercing. She's been piercing for over twenty years.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
It's a family gig. You're all making money doing it.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Everybody gets fed.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
You know. As beautiful is that to have a family
career doing capturing. Notice everybody smoked to.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Everybody partakes some way or another, some way or another,
you know, whether it be at night or just to
relax and bring down the tension or whatever. We we
do what we gotta do.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
We all use cannabis and we all do the shop.
That's a fantastic story, los. How you guys, and so
Pop shows you to your first one? What was your
first tattoo? All right?
Speaker 3 (06:38):
So I had a friend. It was a lady, you know,
And then I pulled out the tattoo. K. I was
showing it off. Man, I just got this, my dad
brought this. But you know, I'm going to get started
in The girl goes, well, tattoo me. I said, oh, well,
let me let me, you know, get get.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Let me figure out how to plug this.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Yeah, And she's like okay, then she's connected and do
my tits. I was like, oh, hey, calm down, you know,
but we did. My first tattoo was was a set
of boobies, man, and what.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
You put on her x x O. Yeah, it's hard
to mess that up.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Yeah, no, no, no, we did good.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
We did exactly.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Know it was good. You know what, when I was tattooing,
I fell in love with the tattooing, not with the tits.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
All right, I'm just right that clear. I fell in
love with I grew a passion for tattooing, you know.
And that's why I've been I've been just slinging ink. Man.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
You know how long and how many would you say
you've done?
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Oh my god, thousands, thousands, thousands and thousands. You know what, man,
there was a time in my career. I don't do
that anymore. You know, there was a time in my
career where I like to say, the first maybe fifteen
years of my career, I was tattooing from eleven am
to three am. I kid you not, bro, five six
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different people. H just wait, you know, eat once a day,
twice a day, sneak it in while I'm while I'm tattooing. Yeah, man,
you know, so it's thousands thousands.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Thousands, And as you say that, are you taking the
smoke breaks? Are you using the cannabis to help you
through it? All?
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Louly? You know what, we get major back pains. All
my tattoo artists, please stand up.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Yeah, exactly, all bent overall.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Yeah, you know so, uh yeah, you know, I definitely
had to take my little, my little smoke breaks.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
You know, as you're doing these tattoos loose and you
do the first one on a nice little chee chee
the xox. So that's so funny to say that because
I could already see it. I said, I don't know
how many we've seen on the net, whatever, whatever, that's it.
I'd love some simple one. What's the biggest craziest tattoo
that you've ever done? It's taking you the most time?
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Uh you know what?
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Man?
Speaker 3 (08:53):
I tattooed Michael Frankel. He was a professional boxer retired
now he trains in the I E. Good dude, I
did this whole back. It was like a twelve hour
city I I won't be doing a past eight hours now, bro.
You know that really took a toll on my back.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Will that be two days?
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Though?
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Three days?
Speaker 3 (09:16):
How many I mean, yeah, I'll do like now, I
do eight hours and if it takes more then we'll
book another day, you know.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
But you'll go eight hours straight on something.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
Yeah, yeah, with breaks, you know, I gotta go and
stuff like that. You know, I gotta get my little
smoke break in.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Do you know ahead of time, like when you're looking
at this going this may take us a You're able
to look at whatever it is, and this will take
me this amount of time. Yeah. Wow, that's the art
of this experience though.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Yeah, man, that's just great. You're learning how to do
all this stuff and coming out with that. So Santa Anna,
I'm born and raised.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
I'm born and raised.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Where'd you go to school?
Speaker 3 (09:51):
I went to a you know what. In elementary I
went to Hoover, Santiago, Washington. I stayed in one school
for my middle school and that was Spurgeon. And then
in high school, I was jumping around, you know, but
I went to sant Outa high school. I went to
Valley and handed up. I sees the childis that was
(10:14):
a good school man. Had some amazing teachers. You know.
Miss Clayton shout out to you. You know, she always
seemed she actually kept one of my drawings because I
was always drawing in school. You know, she said, can
I keep this there? Go ahead, Miss Clayton. She was,
she was good.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
So popping around different high schools, you're getting kicked out.
I'm gonna assume her, Yeah, you didn't voluntarily.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Okay, So found some cannabis on me.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
I want to go there and talk about how a
lot of people listening maybe have been kicked out of
schools looking for what they're gonna do, and a guy
like yourself lows smoking weed, getting kicked out of schools,
and now you've been doing tattooing for twenty plus years,
the whole family. It's a business. You've learned the business.
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But I want to talk about those trials when you
were young, younger going oh no, just to you know,
bend the whole basically, yeah, sitting there getting kicked out,
because you don't wish that on anybody. I'm sure, I'm hoping,
I'm thinking, but you know, I want to hear that
testimonial of how it went from that to this. What
was that crossing point? We're going to talk about that
we come back. It's cannabis talk, one on one. We'll
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be right back after this break.
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Follow Carlos at Los Underscore Batagun Underscore tat number two
right there, not the number signed, just tattoo at the end.
And Los, I was saying this because you opened up
and said you went to a different bunch of schools
and now you found yourself in a career for over
twenty years. Now your dad gets you into it. Your
dad had some troubles, you said, he learned doing tattoos incarcerated.
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So there's some trials there, right, there's a lot of
trials going. And let's just face it, guys like us
come from my brother or like I've been in jail,
we all had some troubles in times where you get
troubles and you find your way out. What was yours
that you found your way and found this career?
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Man? You know what in school I was school, Like
I was telling one of the fellows, back in school
wasn't really for me. You know. I went and I
got promoted and I did good.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
I'm graduating.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
B's No, I did not graduate at all. I went
junior year and that was a you know, but school
wasn't for me, you know. And my mom's probably gonna
hate this when she sees, you know, but that's all right,
you know, SA.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
You didn't graduate me over, you know.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
But no, I did not graduate. School was not for me.
Nothing against education. If you like to study, you like
to do your thing, follow it, pursue it, nothing wrong
with it, you know. It just wasn't for me, you know.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
And it just goes to show that there's a lot
of people out there like yourself, that there's successful individual
doing something for twenty plus years at a real.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Career, at a real career, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
And you're feeding, like you said, your entire family, your
little brother, your sister, mom's dad, everybody's doing it. So
keep going the transition. How does it happen. Where do
you see it?
Speaker 3 (13:40):
You know what? Man, I was always in school, I
was drying, drying. You couldn't get me to do my homework,
but I was always drying. Even my teachers.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Every class. You're in math class, drawing, bridge or whatever.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
I started drawing the horses up on the thing. I
start looking at the teacher. I started drawing her, doing
her name.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
You're in history, and started drawing whoever I'll draw George.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Washington, buddy can get it, you know.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
But yeah, man, were you left you by the way too?
By the way, are you usually your left hand? Uh no,
I'm okay, yeah, okay that this.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
One was available to exactly.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Yeah, I can do it. Left you?
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Yeah, we can walk in chew gun exactly. But yeah,
in high school. In high school, I just uh I
I pursued something with art, you know, and I knew it.
And now you know what there's I don't just do tattoos.
I get commissioned drawings. People say, hey, my dad passed away,
can you do this drawing? And I make a fair
amount of change, you know, I charge up to thirty
(14:34):
five hundred five thousand for a drawing in GRAPHI charcoal
you know. So it's uh, it's it's been a passion
of mine. And I always knew in high school, I said,
you know what, this is what it's going to be.
You know, it was in me since I was a
little kid. I Uh, I would turn on the chat
Bob Ross. My dad would catch me. I would have
(14:54):
a hard time going to bed at night. I'd be
watching Bob Ross and my Dad's like, you want me
to send you to school? Was no, not really, not
for art, you know, but uh, I always knew it was.
It was it was art, you know. And in high school,
you know what, we just it wasn't for me. We
left that there and got a job. I did a
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job and I was stuck to dry. I was a slave.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
It was a job.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
I did machining. Man, I did machining, and then I
worked for a mining company. It was called Great Basin Environmental.
I had a good experience with a man. We used
to travel across across the country, you know, put us
in different in different uh states, and then we would
go and and and mine. Not mining for coal, you know,
(15:42):
but we would go and we would set up these
plastic tarps for some acids that they pull out of
mountains so that they wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Labor though, yeah you're labor, Yeah, your labor.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
I had to pick up some labor and uh. And
even when I was doing that, I go back to
the hotel draw. It was always in there, smoke and draw, absolutely,
smoking and drawing.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
The cannabis helps it all. Helps with the pain after
working hard all day, helps with the creativity.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
Aativity.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
That's awesome that you did that. And then how old
were you when you got the tattoo and then you
did that first tattoo on her? I was eighteen eighteen,
so basically when you would be graduating from high school.
And is that when you started officially tattooing too. Yeah,
from that first girl on a.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Girl on the HOMI saw right there in the backyard,
and I had a line you know, every weekend.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
It was like a movie.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
It was like a I'm looking at a movie man,
you know. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
And that is just funny and such a story to
tell because lost, like a lot of people out there,
my dad never graduated from high school, you know what
I mean. And he worked hardcore rest in peace. He
just it was a hardcore worker, drove truck whatever he
had to do. But he didn't have that where he
found his career like that. So when I hear about
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guys like you, there's a lot of people out there
that's not my story. I went to school and I
did my thing, but I am so proud and like,
look at it going, there's still a path. You don't
have to be this fucking guy that oh the poor me,
or I have nothing. I can only do no find
what your lane is. Yeah, I mean it's not school
(17:27):
for everyone.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
It's not.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
I don't think it's And I'm not the guy at
school for everyone. I think everybody can could You can
never take my degree away from me, you know what
I mean? But and you can't take your art away from.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
You, you know what I'm saying that.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
And it's the same concept, right, So I look at
that same concept. I have my degree, cool, you have
your art talent? Cool. It's like, oh, that's what you do.
And so for cats out there that are listening are wondering, going, fuck,
I have a hard time with school too. Or I'm
young and I like to smoke weed, and I like
to get creative and I like to draw and I
like to do this. Was it scary for you to
(17:58):
be like, Nope, I'm not going to do that. I'm
gonna do this like I have this job making money,
doing labor is my you know, but my dad buys
me this kid, am I gonna go out in faith
and be like, no, I can really do this because
at the time you're not thinking. Twenty years later, you're
damn you're running a shot. You're doing all these you know,
(18:18):
famous people, this and that, Like you didn't think that
back then. You're just fucking a young kid at eighteen
years old going equally equally.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
Yo, No, you know what we really did. We left.
I left the job and I dedicated to just I
dedicated myself to just tattooing tattoo tattoo tattoo. The passion
turned into profit. And you guys can do it too,
you know, anybody can. You gotta find your niche find it,
let it kill you. And that's the saying. Whoever came
(18:52):
up with it props to you, you know, but you
gotta find your passion and make it give you profit.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Low sure and inspiration for a lot of people all
out there that you know what I mean that that
uh that are in your shoes. Let's just face it.
We look at statistically young. It doesn't matter who they are,
let alone Latinos. But you know what I mean, why
everybody has a lot of dropouts, you know what I
mean that don't finish the school. But it's just finding
that lane. And for you to find your lane, dog,
that's that's an inspirational story.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
Think you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
And I'm happy for you, proud for you. You know, it's like, dude,
this is a young dude. That's you know, it's not
for everybody, but he's found his way and did his niche. So,
what was your first tattoo? Then?
Speaker 3 (19:30):
My first tattoo? My oh, my first tattoo was a
little legal in the back. Why the eagle because of
the roots, you know, Latino Mexicano, right, That's what it was.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
That's dope I got. I got ego. My first one
was ego feathers right here too, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I
got ego feathers more for yeah, exactly. Yeah. Yeah. It's
a choker with thes and win a big old Indian
from Nebraska. So and my parents weren't all like happy
about it. And my dad's old school. His first tattoo
is one of the and you know what I mean,
he got there. He was that type of era, you
know what I mean, and uh, they were like, oh man,
(20:06):
I'm gonna get tattooed. And then when I got my
first tattoo, my mom was like, oh, we got one
for the heritage. It was like they were happy, you
know what I mean, like, oh yeah, because I had
my whole Native American Indian costume. When I went to
pow Wow, I was the whole nine. So I had
like my you know I used to go to. I
was a drummer at first and a fancy dancer. So
when I got this, it was more like spiritual, like dude, no,
(20:27):
I want to show off my Native American history and
just you know this and now on that I'm forty
six percent Native American, his you know, Native American. So
it's like I have a lot more than that Indian
in me than anything else cool, which is which is
more random than not. After I did the fucking you
know who am I bloody Yeah, the DNA bullshit, which
still shocks me each other's day, I'm like, fuck to
(20:47):
be getting paid for exactly I live into it. So
my dad had his tribal number from the Winnibago tribe
in Nebraska. He has his. And then when I called
him because I was his descent and he's been passed
for you know, twenty four years whatever, when I trying
to realize I need to inquire more, they didn't have
(21:08):
it to where the kids of the people could do
it yet, but they were about to change it to
I was supposed to call it last year, and I
still I need to make another call. I saved the
number and ending, I mean, like two years, what kind
of need that this? Here's my I still have it.
Here's my dad's number, here's my whoop you woop, and
my mom. I tried to track hers down, but she
passed a long time ago too. I couldn't figure it
(21:28):
all out. But yeah, I'm a foster one. But still,
but my point is having that first one was like
that just prideful, you know, boom and as you said, Eagle,
like that's that made me think of I have feathers
like to Latin and Indian, that's like both ways. They
both touch each other so much. Anyway, it's like they
were both here on this fucking land before everybody else.
(21:50):
Before Columbus said, you guys, get over there, there's Mexico.
You guys stay here and call these tribes and these reservations.
You guys get this country over there. But you know,
same concepts. So so then how many do you have? Now? Man,
I see you're you're you're inked that quiteably blasted. Man.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
I got the back of my head, whole neck top.
I need my belly. I got some on my leg.
You know, I gotta say I probably got like maybe
forty six percent of my body left.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
You know, really, and as you do it, where's the
one that hurt the most?
Speaker 3 (22:22):
Oh? Man, my ribs, ribs, my ribs. Bro, the neck
was cake. Don't let that scare you.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Guys.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
They go do the neck. Don't do the face. One neck,
it's all right, but the ribs. I want to test you, bro, really,
it'll test you. Man.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Did you did in the inside of the arm? I
got the inside, Yeah, I got the inside of my arm.
I thought that was a little pinchy, agnoying, like it's
annoying the ribs. I think I turned pale on that one.
Oh man, I needed a coke. Oh, don't say coke
around me. I've been sober a long time, but not
that long. We're gonna come back levels. We're gonna find
out where's the craziest place you ever tattooed? Bud. It's
(23:00):
Cannabis Talk one oh one. Follow your career as folks.
We'll be right back after this break.
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Speaker 2 (23:25):
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is here an award winning tattoo artists of Charlie's Tattoo Studio.
Before we went to break Los, I said, where's the
crazy place she ever tattooed somebody? Your first one was
on a lady friend of yours boob? But where was
(24:08):
there a tattoo that you were like, holy shit, you
want me to tattoo this? And has there ever been
somebody to ask you to do a tattoo somewhere?
Speaker 3 (24:17):
And you said no, absolutely, man, Well, you know I
tattooed vaginas.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
You know, when you say vaginas, there's a lot of
area of the vagina that I think about. I think
of the top part, I think of the side, you
know what part of the vagina? Like is there's things
that they do a whole round.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
The multiple and you know I did a top of
the click and then we went around the labya. You know,
we've done our fair share of gynecology, you know, And when.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
They asked you to do that, is it like whoa?
I mean, how many have you done like that?
Speaker 3 (24:55):
I can count them with my hand. Bro maybe about no,
you know what has been like.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
Three of them? Like and is it strange and weird
to like, Okay, that's what you want to do. That's
what you want to do. Are they girls?
Speaker 3 (25:06):
You know?
Speaker 2 (25:06):
Are they just no? No, No, they were customer, just random.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
Customer, just random guess that came into the shop.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
Man, wow, yeah, you know what, like, was it nervous?
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Like, okay, are clean because tattooing.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
It says that, No, I'm no stranger to vagina.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
There, Yeah, there's that too, okay yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
No, no, no, you know what it was. Uh, you
know what we're like we mentioned earlier. You know, it's
a family environment. My mom, my dad, sisters are there,
you know, so they come in. It's a it's a
very professional area, you know, so they're not going to
come in and.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Right, it's not like you feel weird about that. He lose.
I kind of want to hook up with you anyways.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
Yeah there, you could beat you up, you know. So. Yeah,
so you've done the vagina, done the vagina.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
So now that's great. And now what about has there
ever been a tattoo where you're like, no, I'm not
going to do that one? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (25:57):
Man, that dick and you know, I I it's just
it's hard because it has to be hard to tattoo, bro.
You know, so with me tattooing. It's just it ain't
gonna work out.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Like, I'm not a fluffer homie. Yeah, someone, some people
have really got their dick tattooed.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
Oh absolutely really Yeah, giving me the stomach ache right
now just thinking about it. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Man, So people have asked you, hey, Carlo Goes, when
you tattooed my dick whatever? Whatever?
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Yeah, and you say no, I say, I'm sorry, I'm
not the artist for you.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Man. How close have you.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
Had guys that get the inside of the thigh, I
mean the balls and we go pretty close down to
you know below.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Right above the penis, yeah, yeah, pelvis area.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
Yeah, but when it comes down to the you know,
just shaft and all that, I'm not gonna go there.
You know, it's hard because because it has to.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Be hard hard. That's crazy when you think about like
I think it's almost a joke, but I thought it
would not be even real that people really do that. Yeah,
I've never seen a penis tattoo.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
I feel right now I'm about to google.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
How weird is it that I kind of want to
google it just because I'd never really seen them with
my eyes.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
Now you're curious.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Now I'm curious, Yeah, like who, and like, have you
seen one? No, exactly, I've never seen one either, and
not only in real life, but I don't even online.
And now I don't want I kind of don't even
want my search engine to have that on my connor
can you we look it up on your computer?
Speaker 3 (27:32):
You know, I got I got homeboys that I tattooed,
and they're like, hey, no, the dudes in jail they
got it. You know, they got their whole tattooed. You know, really,
you know, that's all they see in jail, So I
kind of believe them, you know, Yeah, well they're in
the shower.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
You know, it's all the group showers. I mean, it
goes down like that. So you have the crazy ones,
you have ones like that. Has there ever been somebody
that comes in there and does the I want this
on me and you're like, dude, I can't do that either.
I'm not going to do whether it's a swastika or
I don't know, something that's just morally against something that
(28:07):
you do.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
You know what, when it comes to something for me morally,
I really won't tattoo like La morte.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
That's just between for those who don't know that's explain exactly.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
What that is something. It's a solely death, the saint
to death. You know. I just don't tattoo those. I
tattooed schools, which are kind of big, like a lot
of people have those though, absolutely, So that's random that
you won't do that one, because I thought I was saying,
wasn't that in Coco the movie too?
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Everything we've seen it all over the place, I mean.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
The sugar schools. Okay, So there's a difference the sometime,
you know, it's it's it's completely different. And you could
tell the people that come in and get my respects
to it. You know, I'm not afraid of it.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
I'm not.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
It's just a promise that I have between me and
my God, and and that was my.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
That's interesting, dog, that you have something like that. That's
the one you're like, no, I won't do that. Somebody's like,
I want to put a kill fucking bill on my shoulder.
You're like, all right, whatever, machine gun and they're shooting
the city. Okay, no problem, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
No, no, yeah, yeah, I like not going through those
you know. Yeah, those and then those what are they
called them? There's another a different type of tattoo. Just
last week, one of my guests flew in from Ohio. Hey,
(29:28):
this is what I want. This is what it is,
and it's super biometric. And I'm like, bro, I am
not the artist for you, dog. I mean, look at
my work. This is what I do. We can do this,
we can do that. And he's like, oh man, this
is really what I wanted. But I I am more
comfortable that you told me this that way. We don't
just wing it. I'm like, yeah, cool. He's like, okay, cool,
then let's do something.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
So someone's listening right now and they go, this, dude,
sounds interesting. I like them. What is it exactly that
you specialize in that You're like, dude, I might I
kind of sit at the beginning of the grays and
the blacks. But how would you explain it if you
were telling people when it comes to photo realism, I
really enjoy what I do. You know, I could look
at a setting, like if I somebody takes a picture
(30:08):
of us right now, I can execute the same portrait
on the tattoo, the same scenery, same everything, to the tea,
the cup, cell phones, everything will be right.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
On photorealism, really.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Yeah, so you can mock whatever you see basically the settings,
the sculpture, whatever, that's your gig mostly best at that.
And what do you have preferably on your body? Mostly
just things that.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
I was passionate about growing up. You know, my kids' names, money,
a spray can because it started there too, you know.
And then the tattoo machine, and there's a microphone. I
love music, you know, music and the herb and my pencil.
(30:55):
It all goes together to create some beautiful on skin,
you know. So we got that. Then we that Orange
County under there, Orange County. Then my kids portraits, mom's names,
the Bible, just things like that. You know, nothing.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
That's funny that you do that. I everything that I
have too is more spirit like meaning something to me too.
I have just big things out on my body as
well that are like the most meaningful things I didn't do,
like a dolphin or something random like, oh I just
want to do this, but you know, God bless those
who do maybe something to them.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
How many tramp stamps have you done? Are those still popular?
Speaker 1 (31:32):
Na?
Speaker 3 (31:33):
They're not? But uh, you know what one of my
buddies did one like two weeks ago. I think they're
coming back.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
I heard they are.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
Actually I heard they were coming back. I think they're
coming back, man, right.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
Yeah, it's like the O G chicks you see with
the tramp stamp on. You're like, ooh, she's nice. I
like what. As a matter of fact, Jennifer's getting one
of those. I think she wants to get another one.
That's why she's over her ear hustling. Hold on, Kenny,
you get a picture of a pit right here, a bulldog.
Alrightp But I don't know where I came up a
bit right now. I just like over there and thought
of them. That'd be so awesome right there. So I
(32:04):
actually do the high five. We like to do the
high five with everybody that comes in. Low said, we
like to hear about the things that you're doing. But actually,
before we do that, I know you're concerned about a
lot of newbies coming into the tattoo game. What are
you so concerned about when you say that, I've seen
that in your job.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
You just do it right, you know, do it right.
Come down to the tattoo shop. We can give you
guidance to do it the right way, you know, so
you're not just exposing because I know a lot of
people like to start off at their house. You don't
know what type of stuff you're bringing into your crab man.
(32:39):
HEPSI aides all that stuff. Man, you're bringing it into
your house. If if you are married and you're starting
the tattoo, you got kids, you're bringing stuff like that
to your crab man, you know. And that was my concern.
There's a lot of badass artists out there, man, and
my respects to you guys. I do not feel threatened
with competition or with other dudes coming into tattoo that
are better than I am. I thrive off of people
(33:03):
that are better than.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
Me, you know.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
But when I say my concern with newbies, it's that
be careful what you bring into your crib man, you know.
And I say it with the blood borne pathogens type
of stuff, you know, come to the shop. We'll break
things down for you and we can point you in
the in the right direction.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
You know. That was my conswern That's a good one though,
because a lot of people think, oh, I could just
get this done here, Oh my homie could do it.
We have at we ordered one off Amazon. Yeah, No,
I'm good to go.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
You gotta be careful. You could order it off Amazon,
you know, but you can't take back HEPSI. You can't
take back AIDS, you can't take back HIV. You gotta
be careful with that stuff.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
And those are real things that could happen absolutely because
you're dealing with blood. You're penetrating the body and if
you're not cleaning properly, you're not using the proper tools.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
Yeah, you grab it. You know, you're you're tattooing your
phone rings. You go and you touch it things infected,
you know. I, for one, and I try to make
it a habit of a for the artists at the shop.
I try to lead them by example. I go get
tested every six months due to the fact that we're
dealing with with blood borne pathogen.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
You know.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
That's why I'm clean Every six months. Every six months,
I try to get tested HIV HEPSI. I want to
know that I'm good.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
You know that.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
I never thought that that would be some concern for
tattoo artists.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
Oh it is for me.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
It's a real concern. As you say that, hell yeah
it should be.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
It really should be. And that is my concern for
new beause you got to know how to conduct yourself
in in that area. You know, as far as the articles,
bring it in, man.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
You know, bring it in. It's hits you the right
way and show you how to do it clean and
proper and respectful. Well, I love that, Carlos h Once again,
if you want to go to find out where a
shop is, check them out online at Charlie's Tattoo dot Com.
Follow him at lows Underscore about a guy Underscore tat
and then number two high five time lows. How old
(35:04):
are you the first time he smoked cannabis? And where'd
you get it from?
Speaker 3 (35:07):
Man? All right, so check this out. Lived in a
mobile home park, right, My dad has his business, he's
at work. I'm skating and the man who is now
my brother in law. You know, he must have been
like sixteen at the time. I'm twelve on a skateboard. Hi, hey,
come here, what's upfol Hit this real quick?
Speaker 2 (35:30):
Nah?
Speaker 3 (35:30):
My dad just thinking, Hi, he's gonna find out. You'll
be all right? Dog. There I go off of these
little pieces they used to set out the AMPM. You
remember those little key chain ones right right right right
right there? You grab he's out here, hit this boom,
I grab it, but I was tripping balls. Go to
my grandma's house, start watching The Lion King, bro Simple dying,
(35:52):
Simbols dying. I'm tripping out. Somebody help O.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
Do you know what I'm saying? Bro, I'm still again.
Attacked by King is one of the best movies by far. Anyway,
I get you emotional even if you're not stone. You
can get emotional watching that shit, no matter what, unless
you just I don't have a heart. That's a good
That's a great movie. Actually, it really is. It really is,
especially when they did the remake, like when they made
(36:17):
it real. Like, that's just one of those movies that
I can watch over and over. Yeah, Like I love
when my kids want to watch that. I want to
go to the Irvine Spectrum. They're gonna show it on
the Sunday Night movies to watch it. Oh, it's such
a great one. Good stories. So that was the first time.
I what a good time to have twelve years old. Huh,
that's great. And the brother in law now gave it
now he took my sister. How random and funny is
(36:39):
that now he's family? What is there Her favorite way
to use cannabis.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
Flower joint? Absolutely, absolutely it always will be man these
edibles for me. I gotta check my heart rate in
a little bit, make sure I'm still alived.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
You know.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
The flower will always be my friend.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
Just a nice good flower joint. So many people are
Question number three of the High five with los, what's
the craziest place you ever used or smoked cannabis?
Speaker 3 (37:10):
The craziest place, man, I went to church Stone one time, bro,
I was tripping. You know, they talk about Nah, I
shouldn't even be here right now. You know, that's probably
one of my not a good place to.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
Be Sonny I said that to back in the day.
I remember going to youth group and just a lot
of us were smoking and just going to church and
be smoking at the church, and we're just a bunching dump.
Yeah the high back here. Let's just sit back of
the church. Why not. They're drinking wine. Let's just get
high too, and.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
You use that, you know, yeah, why not wine out
of water? It's just all right.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
You could just start tripping there too, your mind and
then you see Jesus all stable over there. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:57):
No, not the best place, you know, it's fun.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
Question numberfore the High five, what's your go too, munchies
after you get high. Green or red, definitely green, chicken, beef, pork.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
Cheese, cheese, and chi lies cheese. Man, just a nice
green cheese, and she lies cheese too.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
You can see, of course cheese in the middle on
top the whole nine. It's surrounded with cheese. Oh, you're
making me hungry for something right now? Oh there's you know.
I like green or red.
Speaker 3 (38:32):
It doesn't matter to me, but it's definitely me too,
prejudice exact reference.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
It's funny, though, preference for me too is green, if
which one you want to But lately, for some weird reason,
maybe it's the chili Colorado. I want to do something
with the red in it too, though sometimes you know
what I mean, Like the red is like that old
school flavor of like, let me taste how good it is.
I gotta avoid him Tattoo. Ironically his name, remember Tattoo,
for I remember my homeboy Tattoo. He has been on
(38:59):
the show before here and I talk all the time.
He's still great friends. But as I say, chili corlado.
The way he can tell if a Mexican restaurant's good
is by ordering their chili cordlorado. Like he always needs
to test it. Like if it's a good Mexican restaurant,
they'll have chili corlorado and I gotta try it there.
That's cool, And tattoo is the all that's all random.
I bring him up right now, question number five with
(39:21):
a high five. Carlos Betagan tattoo award winning dude. Go
check him out. Of course, if you want to get
a tattoo, you know you can smoke there. You know
you can hang out with him. But if you could
smoke cannabis with anyone dead or alive, who would it be?
And why?
Speaker 3 (39:38):
Man, I'd have to say, I'd have to say Tupac.
You know, probably get high with Tupac. And why the
man was prolific. I'd like to take in his head
a little bit, you know. That's fine.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
Yeah, he's definitely one of those dudes that we hear
a lot of. I mean, he's one of the cats
that you know, he's ahead of his time, the way ahead.
I mean, the dude could spit like nobody else, so
much energy. Just it's so random and its weird feeling. Yeah,
you know, so it did it have to be put
another random? Who's your inspiration? That you look at going
(40:11):
tattoo artists like that. Dude is fucking sick too.
Speaker 3 (40:15):
Like I really fans guy as an artist. Yeah, man,
who's well rounded.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (40:23):
I'd have to say, there's a lot of them, a
whole lot of them, bro. You know here in the US.
One that's sticks out like a sore thumb. And I'd
have to say, is Nico you know color black and
Gray's good, got my respects as an artist and as
a man, super humble. Where's I believe he's an Uplin? Okay,
(40:46):
I believe he's an Uplin ironic, I've never heard of him. Okay,
He's a good artist.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
And then you know, like international artists that just because
it's crazy, there's tattoo artists that get paid a lot
of money, a lot, I mean cartoons made a big
fucking stamp for US lat you know, it's in the game.
From doing eminems the fifty, you know, there's just been
like iconic names that have shows on fucking Netflix and
(41:12):
documentaries and ship like.
Speaker 3 (41:13):
No, you know what, man, Nico o'talo. He's a good artist.
But like I said, there's a lot of cartoon one
of them with the black and gray, you know, and
then you're thinking.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
To put that black and gray on the international map.
Speaker 3 (41:24):
He put La on the map. He put a Latinos
on the map. Even with what he's doing now with
you know, on the cans, you know, laying it out.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
I mean he's the commercials with fucking Beever Beer company.
I think it's Corona or something.
Speaker 3 (41:39):
You know, I believe it Corona.
Speaker 2 (41:40):
Yeah, which was dope to see, like, wow, tattoo artists
getting sponsored like that with international commercials and.
Speaker 3 (41:46):
The Latino at that at that you know, we we
don't get as much credit as we should.
Speaker 2 (41:52):
And Esteban for always recording that ship back in the day. Yeah,
I love that, you know those did oh yeah, yeah,
I go way back with those guys when I worked
at Power one six and those dudes were just fucking
o gez. It's just funny when you think like Steban,
like he was just recording shit and you never didn't know,
and that it was like that shit's classic gold footage,
like dude, right, yeah, dude, he did all kinds of stuff,
(42:15):
but he had it on the big disc, you know,
the eight tracks, but you know it was before nowadays
everything's digital. But like to think nobody was recording that
shit back then. I hate it too, because I did
so much stuff back in the day. It was like, damn,
I wish I would have recorded everything you can now
It's yeah, everybody could be famous now. I'm like, dude,
if I had all this shit I've done in the past.
And you even look at the early stuff of like
(42:36):
because all those times go back to even like a
be Real b Real was hanging out with those dudes
early on too, and they have the footage of them
being around and the early cypress, the early hip hop
concerts that you didn't even know were recorded, and it's
like that step On get It and that stuff one
was with all those dudes like that, the cartoons and
all that fucking of l A. You're like, whoa, these
(42:57):
dudes are the ogs. And now you're kind of like
the young that's still twenty plus years around. You're about
that io now of like, you know, you get your respect,
you get your love, and we've earned it. You've earned it, though,
and that's what I love about it because you see
our community and you realize that, you know, this is
a part of who we are. Right, Like I said,
my dad had a little cross on his hand right here,
(43:18):
you know what I mean, Like, we come from that,
and when I see artists like yourself, I respect it
and like I appreciate it. I'm glad you're on our
platform to show people because it's a different lane. Right.
It's like, and some people will judge and raise, Oh,
this fucking tolo whatever, right, who's this tattoo fucking monkey
dick whatever? Right, especially if you go to fucking certain areas,
(43:41):
it's just bad. But it's not like bad because what
is there's a respectful fucking artist who has a career
that tattoos people for a living. When you used to
see people with tattoos on the head and this has
been oh, no, scary. And now these dudes are movie stars,
they're this yor that, and you're like, wow, there's a
full on lane for this.
Speaker 3 (44:01):
Absolutely, So I like to make it normalize.
Speaker 2 (44:04):
And that's why I'm so happy you're on this show
to be like, not only is he a tattoo artist
that's providing for his family that all of them work together,
but they are also cannabis users, normalizing the plants. They
all use it to help with the pains that they
go through at work. And for recreational.
Speaker 3 (44:21):
It definitely has his medical medicinal purposes, you know.
Speaker 2 (44:25):
So it's good it is, brother. Is there anything else
that you forgot that we didn't mention anything that you
want to mention on the podcast before we let you
go those.
Speaker 3 (44:31):
No, man, We're good. I thank you guys for having
me my boy camp come film, no doubt.
Speaker 2 (44:39):
Thank you guys for I think Cam wants to work
on one of those penis tattoos too. I can see
him getting excited. He's got he's got the bear. Have
you seen the beer on his stomach? You know you've
got a big old beer on his stomach, right, He's
got to get a tattoo on his stomach. It's Cannabis
Talk one on one. Remember this. If nobody else loves you,
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I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!