CEO of Mango Tech™ & Miami Mango™, Alex Villegas.

The Mango Tech™ store was started by a veteran cultivator who wanted to provide the best, most advanced, and most affordable environmental & irrigation controllers ever created. Since its inception, the Mango Tech™ Store has partnered up with other like-minded companies, that share the same vision of bringing the best and highest quality products, into the agriculture industry. Miami Mango™ is a Cannabis Manufacturer and distributor that focuses on producing some of the best flowers & concentrates in the California market! Be sure to follow them on IG @miami.mango1.0 & check out the Mango Tech™ website at www.mangotech.store to get your indoor grow where it needs to be!

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four four six five three zero zero. Now today on
the podcast is a guy that's not from Miami. We
just figured this out, but he's from Sacramento. A guy

(01:43):
behind two companies that have been setting the standards of
quality when it comes to indoor agricultural equipment and cannabis.

Speaker 3 (01:49):
Flower joining us on the show is Alex Bealgas Did
I say that right?

Speaker 6 (01:56):
Yes? Yes, you gotta.

Speaker 4 (01:59):
Yeah, Owner and CEO of Mango Tech and Miami Mango Now.
The Mango Tech Store was started by a veteran cultivator
that wanted to provide the best, most advanced, and most
affordable environmental and irrigational controls that have ever been created.
Since the inception, the Mango Tech Store has partnered up

(02:19):
with other like minded companies that share the same vision
to bring the best and highest quality products into the
agriculture industry.

Speaker 6 (02:27):
Now.

Speaker 4 (02:27):
Miami Mango, on the other hand, is a cannabis manufacturer
and distributor that focuses on producing some of the best
flower and concentrates in the California market. Can't wait to
get how these names came about, but be sure to
follow them on Instagram at Miami dot Mango one point
zero and check out Mango Tech's website at Mango Tech Store,

(02:48):
Mango Tech dot Store. Excuse me, the website is Mango
Tech dot Store.

Speaker 3 (02:52):
To get your indoor row where it needs to be.

Speaker 4 (02:55):
Without further ado, please put your hands together for the
CEO of Mango Tech, Miami Ma and Go Senior Alex
is in the building.

Speaker 3 (03:02):
Yeah what Alex?

Speaker 4 (03:05):
I mean, we were all stumped because we literally thought
you were on a flight from Miami, not from fucking Sacramento.
So now we're sitting here in my head going, oh
fuck it. He could stay longer. Yeah, but tell us
about these companies you have here? Brother, how'd you get
started in this game?

Speaker 7 (03:22):
Well, I've mean, I'm in the canons industry for ship
over fifty two.

Speaker 3 (03:28):
Around the same age I.

Speaker 6 (03:29):
Got caught selling eighth weed of eighth grade or something.

Speaker 5 (03:33):
So I'm telling an eighth how stupid is that?

Speaker 6 (03:36):
Right? You know what it is? What it is. I
didn't start smoking weed until a little bit later than that.

Speaker 7 (03:41):
I was into the Indio. We're immigrant from Columbia. My
parents came from Columbia.

Speaker 3 (03:46):
So you saw cocaine too, No.

Speaker 4 (03:48):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yes they do.

Speaker 6 (03:52):
That's a that's a rumor. But anyway, my my dad
was an agronomist. He was now what agronomius? What is that?
A cultivator for for farm crops? You know?

Speaker 5 (04:03):
Yeah he was, Yeah, they really did the coco leaves then, for.

Speaker 6 (04:05):
Sure, a cultural engineer.

Speaker 7 (04:07):
He actually grew a lot of sorghum, cotton, peanuts Soybean,
but he saw peanuts through like like the Mars.

Speaker 6 (04:16):
Company here in the US. In Colombia, everything went to ship,
went to Brookes. So they moved. They immigrated here in
nineteen eighty one into into Florida, but not Miami.

Speaker 5 (04:26):
Who were into Like, so you were born there?

Speaker 4 (04:28):
Yes, because you're born in seventy one, nineteen seven, seventy okay,
nineteen seventy.

Speaker 6 (04:33):
We were born there. We immigrated like I said here
eighty one eighty two. We skipped the Miami probably we
went straight toward Broward County, which is north of Miami,
north of Day County, and resided in Palm Beach for
a bunch of years.

Speaker 3 (04:46):
Did you go to high school out there?

Speaker 6 (04:47):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (04:48):
Ah, so that's where the Miami flavor and vibe comes from.
When'd you move to Sack?

Speaker 7 (04:52):
Actually the actual move to Sack was last year, about
about June last year. But I've been in Sack for
like like last ten years, going back and forth from Florida,
back and forth.

Speaker 6 (05:03):
You know, I had grows here and you know, the.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
Deal said, yeah, I could say you have an accent
and everything a little bit, but yeah, he was born there.

Speaker 3 (05:11):
Dog, you're the right, you're the wadow of the group.

Speaker 6 (05:14):
Right, Yeah, that's funny.

Speaker 3 (05:15):
Exactly.

Speaker 4 (05:16):
I could see the bus right here for coming on.

Speaker 6 (05:21):
Exactly.

Speaker 4 (05:23):
That's a great fucking thing to be a part of,
like that, because you don't look like you're the Latin
speaking Spanish speaking dude. You're like probably flewing as ship
extremely yeah from the language, yeah, exactly, probably the first
language too, right, was it?

Speaker 6 (05:35):
Yes? Absolutely?

Speaker 4 (05:36):
Oh that is dope right there. So you moved to Miami.
Is that where you started? The Miami light thing?

Speaker 7 (05:41):
Where No, I actually started in the cooking industry. I started,
Uh I was like, I said, we had no money,
so I started cooking for uh.

Speaker 6 (05:50):
My dad at ten years old. I mean that ten
years Like what were you thinking? That's funny? As a
teen I wanted to go to Tink club and you
know he's not.

Speaker 7 (05:58):
We're broke, snappin dog and say this last ten dollars
I'm gonna give you to get a job. So I
started working on McDonald's at fourteen light about about my agent,
and started cooking there.

Speaker 6 (06:06):
Then I went into different restaurants and.

Speaker 5 (06:08):
M Jonald's was your first job. That was my first
job and about your age, how dope?

Speaker 3 (06:12):
Is that My first job was making serious that's dope.

Speaker 6 (06:15):
Yeah, I made the biscuits.

Speaker 7 (06:16):
So yeah, when I told my kids when I when hey,
I used to make the biscuits, they thought that I
invented the biscuits.

Speaker 3 (06:21):
Yeah, hey, don't change that.

Speaker 6 (06:23):
But I kept telling people and my dad invented the biscuits.
Mc don's like, no, no, no, I'm I was. I
got there a five o'clock in the morning. I six
it open. I had to get the buttermilk.

Speaker 3 (06:31):
Hey, you invented the biscuits there at that store though. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (06:36):
So I cooked the different restaurants, uh, you know, through
through my young career, and then uh, in the summers,
I would work construction, you know, because uh in the
restaurant industry back then, I mean it was like three
twenty five an hour minimal age three twenty five, you know,
and then you look construction the door, you know, eight
dollars an hour in cash. So it was a big
improvement from three and a quarter three fifty an hour two.

Speaker 6 (06:55):
Eight dollars an hour cash.

Speaker 7 (06:56):
In the summers, did the construction for a lot. All
my and were rich, you know. When I did go
to a private school.

Speaker 5 (07:02):
Oh, your parents pushed you there. That's good.

Speaker 6 (07:04):
My soccer skills paid for half the position. Uh sweeper.

Speaker 3 (07:09):
Nice nice.

Speaker 4 (07:09):
Connor played soccer to international and some pro and this
and that in college and everything else.

Speaker 5 (07:15):
Yeah, I played a little center mid, but I'm also
from Zacramento. Shout out.

Speaker 7 (07:22):
Yeah, so uh I played, you know, played soccer for
the school. Then the school kind of uh uh subsidized
the other you know, part of the tuition art scholarship.

Speaker 3 (07:31):
That's nice.

Speaker 5 (07:31):
I hope my son gets one of those.

Speaker 6 (07:33):
Cool.

Speaker 3 (07:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (07:34):
So I started hanging out with a bunch of surfers,
you know, because we were living on the coast, you know,
in like your field beach uh and uh sorry surfing,
and all my friends smoked.

Speaker 4 (07:41):
We was and I was like, oh, yeah, because you're
a mister soccer player and that's going to kill you.
And it's just Nancy Reagan told me, so therefore that's bullshit.

Speaker 6 (07:50):
I just never really heard about drugs until I, uh,
I hate it, and I came to the US. You know,
we were very sheltered, you know, in Colombia in a way.
You know, I said, we were, we.

Speaker 7 (07:59):
Were rich some point, and then when we came here,
we just started from the bottom of game, and then
all my friends were surface they smoked weed. And that's
how I got introduced into, uh, into the wee game. Yeah,
to really get into the wee game. And I you know,
I was in construction and my friends and say, hey, man,
you build build me this.

Speaker 6 (08:16):
So then I started building, you know, a smoke grow room,
and then you build another one. You build another one,
and you take them down and you move them, and
then you start seeing what worked what didn't work, you know,
from taking them down. Especially, it's like there's a lot
of mold or there's a lot of leaks or whatever.

Speaker 7 (08:30):
There's in and Forwarida, there is no outdoor growing because
you can't just you know, climate climate, plus you get
you get caught caught indoors too.

Speaker 6 (08:39):
But you had to build the places super sealed.

Speaker 7 (08:41):
And then when you superly sealed the place, then there's
this challenges and stuff like that.

Speaker 6 (08:45):
You know. You see, I was able to have ac
contractors elect of contractors, and I got smart.

Speaker 7 (08:50):
I would only build grows for for the guys that
that uh.

Speaker 6 (08:55):
Hey, you had the right, No, no, I'll actually build
them a cost. I would build all the grows that
costs you pay for all the materials and labors free,
say my guys, but I would give the rights to
the product. I had the rights of first refusal to
any product that came out of that grow, and I
would maintain the grow. You know. If the AC broke down,
I was on call. I go fix it. You know,
you know it was a leak or whatever.

Speaker 5 (09:13):
Just cool strategy. And this is the first right of it.

Speaker 6 (09:17):
That's right.

Speaker 3 (09:17):
If it was fire, you took it.

Speaker 7 (09:18):
I took it all the time anyway, because I would
never let anybody come in the game. You know, that's
the rule. I mean, I just don't let nobody in.

Speaker 5 (09:25):
You know.

Speaker 6 (09:25):
That's that's kind of how it was important. You take
all the product up the.

Speaker 7 (09:28):
Street, and then you are the guy that that that that.

Speaker 6 (09:31):
They supplying everyone come out of it. Yeah, for sure,
and you dictate the price. Yeah, but that's kind of
how that. Yeah, did you do well? I did extremely well.

Speaker 5 (09:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (09:40):
I also was smart enough to uh realize that, you know,
that's like a stepping stone in a way. You can't
just do that forever. Uh. I know. There was then
in school that says, hey, what is it that for
a living? And they say, hey, grows weed? You can't
say that. So I went to a contracting school at
nighttime and I became a general contractor. So I built,
I build.

Speaker 7 (09:58):
Home further, I built high home furtherm Still, no, I
just build grocery a living.

Speaker 6 (10:02):
Now they pay better, Yeah, yeah, they pay a lot better.

Speaker 7 (10:07):
So so yeah, so I was a contractor, would go
high homes, and uh, I probably wouldn't have made it
in construction if I didn't have the side game of
the hustle, the weed. There's a lot of times and
like I said, it was like my dad didn't have
a construction company or anything like that.

Speaker 6 (10:23):
It was just I learned it from scratch. I went
to real the school hard knocks.

Speaker 7 (10:28):
You know, like sometimes if you under bit a job, well,
guess what the hustle had to pay for for for
the bad estimation, you know, stuff like that.

Speaker 6 (10:36):
So that that was that was able to make that
construction company succeed and to the point that once you
learned then you know, then that came higher than than
the hustle. And it was like, okay, so you did
the hustle because it was a side thing. You know,
money was great. You could still go to the clubs
and spend money, and it was just a social thing,
you know, and it was still cool to do it anyway.

Speaker 7 (10:55):
And then the real estate market took for crap and
two thousand.

Speaker 5 (11:01):
Or something, oh yeah, seven eight just really crash.

Speaker 7 (11:04):
Crash, lost everything, lost everything. You and me both was
there and all this time, YE got my ass kick,
We're a millionaire. I thought I was gonna be a
renowned high in custom home building and.

Speaker 5 (11:13):
Four homes at that point, man, and I was rolling
me too.

Speaker 6 (11:17):
We had a house on the water, We had the
boat in the backyard. I mean, it was just like
I made it. I made it, and life goes, oh shit,
your ass down, you know. The ship.

Speaker 7 (11:27):
So I had had divorced, kept the two kids. You're
how am I gonna How am I gonna do it?
So I started, Uh, I built another couple of because
I kind of had faded away from from from building
the places. You know, I still had a couple of
guys that were out there. So I started building a.

Speaker 6 (11:41):
Couple other people and then start to get some money.

Speaker 7 (11:44):
And then the ship hit the fan with those two
when uh, you know, da is hot on.

Speaker 6 (11:48):
On everybody spill down there was it was it was hot.
One of the good girl rooms. And uh, they even
pulled my kids out of school.

Speaker 7 (11:55):
DA DA made a false report to d C, which
is Department of Child in their families.

Speaker 6 (12:01):
My kids out of school on uh on Halloween, Sugar
Tree and question the little fuckers.

Speaker 7 (12:07):
Yeah, they didn't know any better, you know, they didn't
know what you know, what we was. They said the
smelly stuff and then money and guns and this and
that and the others. And then they went to the school,
you know, questioned them. They went to the ex wife's
house and questioned her, and she, thank god, she she
was cool. She says, she's a contract. Don't know what
you're talking about, you know, so that you know.

Speaker 5 (12:26):
She knows the game.

Speaker 3 (12:26):
Hey, you want to get the Zalamo? She liked me.

Speaker 7 (12:30):
Like so, so yes, And then I just knew that
there was just a time.

Speaker 6 (12:37):
All my friends were getting, you know, roped off. Yeah.
So I just said, you know what, do.

Speaker 3 (12:41):
You forget that letter in the mail that said they
were investigating.

Speaker 7 (12:44):
No, I just all my friends told me they got
question and.

Speaker 5 (12:48):
Shows up to the kids. I think it's a little
too late.

Speaker 3 (12:51):
Yeah, they pulled the kids out of school.

Speaker 5 (12:52):
There's no letter needed.

Speaker 6 (12:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (12:54):
I was on the you know, all my friends were
getting ripped off and they're saying, you know, there was
videos of you, you know, coming out of this guy's house,
that guy's how with bags and that.

Speaker 6 (13:00):
So it's pretty much the writings on the wall. You know,
it's like it's only a matter of time.

Speaker 7 (13:04):
So I said, you know, I'm just gonna go to California,
you know, with with no money.

Speaker 6 (13:09):
Well, I got a loan from a from a friend
for one hundred percent. Interesting I got I got like
one hundred and fifty k, you know, and a K
and then but uh, but uh he's a property in Orville, California. Orville, Yeah, no,
small spot north of Zacleman Meth Town.

Speaker 5 (13:22):
Yeah, totally.

Speaker 6 (13:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (13:24):
So I bought up a property there and field both
an old indoor and built an indoor there and super underfunded,
you know, going back and forth on to make that
work for a while, and then it was hurting for
I wasn't making any money. And then kind of figured
it out and then we ran that place for a
while and then actually ended up getting rated there, getting

(13:44):
raided there. We uh we uh I made uh we're
actually came out of doing bad. We did really good
and that We used to ship backs in the carp
boxes that that ship sucked.

Speaker 6 (13:54):
That was stressful. I had no nails.

Speaker 7 (13:56):
And then we went into crates, so woul built crates
like that. We put in an in the crate and we
would drive it over across to the Nevada Botor because
I wouldn't ship out of California custom crates that were
built from the inside so you couldn't take the trade apart,
and then the top lid would have ring chin.

Speaker 6 (14:11):
You know that that you have to destroy the wood.
There was no there was no hey, let's put it
back together. And again yeah yeah, no, I mean the
thing was strapped. It was fully done with with with
you know, a fake invoice, little package, you know, package
slips and stuff like that, and then uh logos and
the whole deal. First time I went to go drop
like an engine, the guy goes, oh engine, the kind

(14:33):
of what kind of engine is? I was like, you're
in the headlights. I'm like, oh fuck. We got to
change three fifty seven changes. So then the next time
I started saying, you know, I gotta I gotta think
of stuff that I can put in the crate, which
is construction equipment. I'll talk about constructioning equipment all day long.

Speaker 7 (14:46):
So I looked at companies that had laser laser guiding
things for for bobcats, you know, for for grading, you know.
So I say, you know, that's what I'm gonna do.
So I, you know, made a fictitious named the logo.

Speaker 6 (14:58):
Whole deal even embroidered with the logo, And whenever I
would drive over to to Nevada, I would start having
fake invoices from Sacramento that I was going to drive
to Orville and then from there dropping them off the
crates in the back of the truck. So you have
a story. You gotta have a story. When you get
pulled over, you can go what is.

Speaker 5 (15:15):
In these boxes?

Speaker 6 (15:16):
Sir?

Speaker 7 (15:17):
I got a delivery my company I left from Sacramento. No,
I worked for the company I left in Sacramento. Yeah,
I'm going. I went to Orville, dropped.

Speaker 6 (15:24):
One off, and then I decided to stay to night
and I'm going over to to Sparks.

Speaker 5 (15:27):
And I love this story.

Speaker 6 (15:28):
By the way, you got you had to make a ply.
You have to have clipboard the whole deod, you had,
the whole nine make sure you have to I mean,
you have to sell the dream, I guess in a way.

Speaker 7 (15:39):
So then we did that for a while. We did
that for both you know, FO sawid good four years,
had a great run. You know, paid a company and
sorry in Florida to uh to uh acceive them. Yeah,
by that time, I.

Speaker 6 (15:49):
Was already in in Florida.

Speaker 7 (15:52):
And then I had a friend that I had paid
to go pick up that that box, you know, uh
in that box, and that'd be monoculous from the morning.

Speaker 6 (15:59):
There's a lot of work in the one and you
wake up.

Speaker 7 (16:00):
And you you go first to to the company that
you know that the package is supposed to be received.

Speaker 6 (16:07):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (16:08):
You go there first early in the morning, because if
you go there and there's a bunch of black SUVs
around there, you already know it's a problem.

Speaker 6 (16:15):
That was the first stop of the morning, and you
knew kind of when when the when the package were
gonna deliver because you could track it. So then if
that was cool, Okay, we're good, we're good.

Speaker 7 (16:24):
We're safe today today as you go to the place
and then you have to you know, you stake out
your own drop off and then you see when the when,
the when when when the guy was gonna pull up.

Speaker 6 (16:32):
You usually call several phones, you know, California phone, Florida phone.
You would call the shipping company. Hey man, there was
there was an email today there was a package coming
in and uh some from from such and such company.

Speaker 7 (16:45):
You act like you didn't know what was going on.
I got I have too bo Portland operators. One of
them is sick. The other ones here, but he uh,
he needed to go somewhere.

Speaker 6 (16:55):
You guys know if you drop it off in the
morning on an afternoon so I can schedule him. You know.
Some you kind of want to know about the timeline,
the view, so.

Speaker 7 (17:01):
You don't want to sit there all day either, and
you know, bite your cheap, bite your nails and stuff
like that. So then you get there and then you
sit there and watch and you kind of feel see
if it was the same drive.

Speaker 6 (17:10):
With a screen before, you know, just the whole deal.

Speaker 7 (17:12):
And then uh and then let them pick the thing off,
put it inside, and then you wait for another hour
and see if ain'ting happened.

Speaker 6 (17:17):
And a friend that go pick it up, You go
pick it up. You go made a home depot truck
the truck and took cases. You know. Uh, the crates
in the back of the truck and the business. That's
how we did it for a while.

Speaker 3 (17:28):
How many pounds do you think you're moving?

Speaker 6 (17:29):
That's a I don't know every every crate anywhere between
between eighty to three hundred depends on what it was.
But you know, ship than a oil to yeah, you know, shatter, yeah, shadder.
We did a bunch of shatter.

Speaker 7 (17:41):
The shadow was in the center of We had these
five mili thick bags of my lard.

Speaker 6 (17:48):
There were thickest could be. You needed a.

Speaker 7 (17:50):
Five hundred degree jaw to seal these things and then
a little vacuum to to to suck the air out
to a point that you didn't kill it, and then
you'd you'd seal it.

Speaker 6 (18:00):
And you use that somewhat.

Speaker 7 (18:01):
So you build the crate, You put uh closer insulation
inside to keep it cool, and then you put you
put the worst weed you put on the outside because
that's the hottest park.

Speaker 6 (18:11):
Not that I ever got hop, but that's your mentality.
If anything goes bad, you want those two to take it.

Speaker 7 (18:16):
And then the better we goes inside. And then the
cooler was inside with the dry ice with straps to
keep because it was going ground. Those crates would go
ground every seven days. Yeah, you know in the summer
it's in the trailer. It'll get one hundred and sixty
the place. And it was going through Texas, you know, and.

Speaker 3 (18:32):
You went ground because they didn't check it. And they
don't check it as much.

Speaker 6 (18:34):
They don't check anything. This was not anything overnight or
two day air. They're gonna check. They're gonna cooke you know,
you know, they're gonna steal it. They're gonna they're gonna
get you. So ground was cool and seven day ground
was on that normal you know, it just it just flew. Well.

Speaker 7 (18:47):
One time I called, I called and then uh, they
said that there was something with the package with the
box and then make them small puck. I would call
for whatever, and then the guy goes, FBI, hold on this,
on this, on this, on this box, FB.

Speaker 6 (19:04):
I hope, what are you talking about. I don't know.

Speaker 7 (19:07):
Let me let me check into it. Maybe you could
set the hurricane. I go, yeah, check please, and he goes,
there's a good number to call you. I'm like, yeah,
you give me call back to this number. So as
soon as he hangs up, I hanging up and snapping
phones like yeah, I lost.

Speaker 6 (19:21):
Another three fifty or four hundred K or something like. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (19:25):
So then yeah, that was yeah, yeah that was stressful, man,
that was stressful. And then uh, and then we just
started to sing just chartering private jets. That was that
was I ended up my my slinging. You know, a
black market career was private jets.

Speaker 3 (19:42):
And I'm on the smaller airports from Burbank to.

Speaker 7 (19:46):
This no way, never out of California. No, never at
a calif It was still with uh, you know, Dreacher roll.
I would get my whole crew. My whole crew was
imported from Florida. I never hired anybody from from Oreville.
I did have a crew out of Tahoe.

Speaker 6 (20:01):
A couple of families that would that I met through
through some workers that uh they would come and stay
at the at the house right two three weeks. You know,
it's a camp, you know. And then we'd tram and
the whole deal, and but uh, we would ship all
our luggage back normal and then we'd have all nice
nice pieces of luggage that uh the stuff.

Speaker 7 (20:19):
Would read the same thing sealed, and uh we would
go to Nevada to a nice, nice hotel and then
you know black suv Remot service come pick you up
into through the private airport, you know for the gates
to the plane to the plane, you know, shipping books
for bos for you. The bags Winters was oversize snowboard bags, yeah,

(20:41):
you know the hockey bags stuff with a big piece
of flower to keep it straight to you know, make
it feel like it was a snowboards in there, right.

Speaker 6 (20:49):
And then the summer's you know, hard golf cases and uh,
and then the luggage obviously and then they would flow the.

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Speaker 4 (21:44):
Alex your story, man, I mean, thank you for your vulnerability.

Speaker 5 (21:49):
First off of being so honest.

Speaker 4 (21:51):
We don't get too many cats up here that let
the cats out the bag of the game that should
be sold and not told so easily. Blue could really
relate to it a lot, becase because he too was
in that same game as Dad taught him. With everything
you did come, you know, very similar serrh stories, and
I've heard from him very similar. My older brother did
a lot of similar stories too, and pushing a bunch

(22:12):
of other things, and before he got busted selling cold
but that was how he got busted when I was ten,
So you know what I mean, I've seen that happen
in the Feds come in and break the doors down.
But like Blue said, before we went to break, did
you ever get popped?

Speaker 6 (22:26):
Yeah? Uh yeah I did. I got popped in uh
in Orville, California. I think I was starting to say
earlier I got an Orville, California. We were grown. I
think we had a it was a three thousand square
foot steel building rented for years.

Speaker 7 (22:43):
Great and then we started and a friend of mine
showed me this thing with this hutine little thing, and
then he squirt it in and we.

Speaker 6 (22:52):
Did it and was like all that just for this
ship right here in this little razor glade. I'm like, dude,
tell me when I got a machine invented that that
can can do this, can recycle the but tank because
it was back then it was just so new. That
was just open blasting, right, you blow yourself up open
blasting with the but with with a PBC pipe, you know,

(23:12):
the little distractor.

Speaker 3 (23:13):
It was just like, I hope we don't die today. Yeah,
it was so crazy looking.

Speaker 6 (23:17):
It was.

Speaker 3 (23:18):
I used to get out of the room anytime someone
was doing it. I was like, you know what, I'm
cool man, I don't want.

Speaker 6 (23:22):
To do this.

Speaker 7 (23:22):
It just didn't seem worth it, you know if like
you know, the effort if all that stuff. But you know,
they started dabbing whatever. You know, it's barely purged. And
then they started getting better at it. So one time
he shows me this equipment, he goes check it out.
So I said, okay, that's interesting. So then we did
set up at West Coast Tour. We went to Bogert
in San Jose, California, and then we went up down
the water of the Five up all the way to

(23:44):
Washington and we checked that all the extraction equipment and
uh by an extractor and extractor equipment, then modified car
holor we modified a car haller and we made an
extraction then.

Speaker 6 (23:56):
So it was like breaking breaking dabs, breaking bad. It
was making dabs.

Speaker 7 (24:00):
Yeah, and uh and we would bring the equipment to
the to the spot. When it was time to extract,
we would we were tracked. I got a bunch of
clients from around the area that I would go pick
up the product and extracted theirs first of while we
were trimming our stuff and then we're getting our trim
ready to extract.

Speaker 6 (24:20):
But yeah, they came in on us one day. It
was everything was put away and everything was put away,
everything was finished. The trailer was still there. When I
had two huge fucking ovens across international sixteen foot across
in international oven it was actually I bought the first
one from him. That was that was that was.

Speaker 7 (24:38):
Bought and then about Art seven point eight. It spent
a long time and yeah, it was still some sheets.

Speaker 6 (24:45):
In the in the in the oven, but all the
equipment was clean. And they came in and the fucking
raided and I was like, oh my god, right off
the bat, you're freaking second that seven years I'm going
to jail. I'm going to jail. So it was it
was five five Florida dudes there. They they arrested us,
and uh, they had the most had a little bit

(25:05):
of intel info because they knew my name off the
bat Alex.

Speaker 3 (25:11):
He's not here.

Speaker 5 (25:12):
No this is we know what your well.

Speaker 7 (25:13):
They got our ds, they got our I ds. You know,
you know I was gonna run. I was gonna run.
I was gonna run out the backyard. I got stories
for days. I could sit here and board all you
guys with stories. I mean I had ran out of
I had ran out of a raid in in Florida,
did years coming in the front.

Speaker 6 (25:30):
I ran at the back back and got away from
that one ship. That was. That was a story that
I've been I've been accused of lying and embellishing. The
mind advice story where I actually went to the house
on the water, took the weed, put in the boat
at a house under construction on the water in another county,
took the boat there and uh and and took the
weed to that to that house and put it in

(25:50):
the in the ceiling of the house. But that's another story.

Speaker 5 (25:53):
But I can hear the story after the story. It's
just entertaining. This is the one what happens in this
in this life.

Speaker 3 (26:01):
It's been like this and for many years with a
lot of people.

Speaker 4 (26:04):
This is what people have had to go through. I
mean like blue stories of they're raiding the shop. Well,
I'm not coming back to the.

Speaker 3 (26:09):
Shop right now, it's not my shop.

Speaker 6 (26:12):
They circled me.

Speaker 2 (26:13):
They had a magazine and and and uh at the
shop and my face was in it with two attorneys
on the on the.

Speaker 3 (26:20):
Thing, and they circled it. This guy just my face and.

Speaker 2 (26:24):
They left it open on the table there and I
was just like, oh god, that guy.

Speaker 6 (26:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (26:28):
I was like yeah, I walked it like great.

Speaker 6 (26:30):
Yeah. So the question was I raided? So that's why
I went straight to that one. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (26:34):
So anyway, this car holder is that it came in
and then I was gonna run out the back and said, fuck, okay,
well it's five dudes here. The other place I got
readed it was only one there, and I knew he
was solid.

Speaker 6 (26:42):
This could be he was you know, he was gonna
take it and then you know, pay for his attorneys
and everything.

Speaker 7 (26:47):
So anyway, so I just decided to come out. I
came out with my shoes. I just I didn't want
to go to deal with our shoes, so I came out.
I just want to put my shoes on there. They
tackled me and whatever the rest is.

Speaker 6 (26:56):
We fought that case for four and a half years.
COVID did help. They were only trying, like you know,
Mike murders and you know, aggravated, you know, like bad shit.
They were trying to I kept again, postponed, postpone, postponed,
We kept every time that they would get my attorney.
Great attorney by the way, she's Jesse Santana out of
Yuba County.

Speaker 7 (27:16):
Great guy, best attorney I've ever had to think. He
would call you that day whenever I had a call.
If worst comes towards within twenty four hours, the next day,
he would call me.

Speaker 6 (27:25):
And when I would call him, Jesse fu man. They
got me. I read the discovery. I read this every day.
It's because he committed the crimes. I mean, you're guilty.
You know, we can fight do this, we do that.
He always lifted me up, you know, you always gave
me hope.

Speaker 5 (27:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (27:39):
Uh cost me for that hope, and that's okay, not
a bad Yeah. So the thing is it was it
was a car holder, it was a mobile car holder.
It was the brand new phone that I had in
that In that phone, I had a lot of videos
from Challice back when Chalice is going. Because we got raided,
like July twenty fourth, of July twenty seven, I had
just gotten from Chaute festival.

Speaker 6 (28:01):
Yeah, the festival, Juggie Oi festival. Yeah, all kinds of videos, labs,
all kinds of ship everywhere. Right, So we knew what
they had because on my phone. So the defense was,
you know, you're right, we extracted, but we didn't extract here.
We extracted in another county.

Speaker 7 (28:18):
I could extract it in county next door to a
distracted in Colorado, distracted and fucking Florida, and it was
moved to here.

Speaker 6 (28:25):
So, yes, we're guilty of cultivation, no big deal.

Speaker 7 (28:29):
Uh, we're guilty of possession, but we did not extract
that year that product in this county. Right, since unheard
of the other four fucking guys that I got arrested for,
y'all shut the fuck up my trimmer, the lowest pig
guy on the on the totem pole.

Speaker 6 (28:45):
Yeah, the state, we all fought it for the fucking
duration blessed those guys.

Speaker 7 (28:51):
I mean they're out there. You can see this, or
you will see this. I'm gonna send it to your ass. Yeah,
you guys are the main reason why we all pulled
it off. It's not it's not me, and it's it's
the attorney's there too, but it's you guys.

Speaker 6 (29:04):
You guys are up here because they shut the fuck up.
I think that's what's up. You know what other attorneys, Yeah,
the prop brothers, Yeah, a lot, shut the fuck out,
s fdu YEA love Mark and Craig Washerman exactly. So
because of that, they had the burden of proof to
say that it was actually attracted in that county, which
they could since it was mobile and then he was

(29:25):
mobile and they had the stuff on the phone.

Speaker 7 (29:27):
Are our r mob was to say, Yo, we extracted it,
and then we had experts gonna come and testify and
all this kind of ship down that it wasn't manufacturer there.

Speaker 6 (29:37):
You know, you know you're right. You have to prove
you out.

Speaker 7 (29:41):
And obviously it's still a crap shoot because if you're
gonna go to court, you know they're gonna pick twelve
jury of your peers and there's that guy that's gonna say,
fuck this quhoto dude.

Speaker 6 (29:52):
You know he's he's in my town and he comes.

Speaker 5 (29:55):
Here and he thinks's gonna grow, we eat and he's
gonna go oil Colombian.

Speaker 6 (29:59):
Yeah, you know, guilty. But then there's other guy that says,
you know what, you know, if you interpret the law,
they failed to prove that they did it. Here I'm saying,
so that's what we hung our whole defense on.

Speaker 5 (30:15):
Is that, you know, isn't that great? We're about the
laws sometimes what I mean, it could be a blessing
our curse. But you know what, for you, it was
the blessing.

Speaker 6 (30:22):
So after three years, let everybody go except one guy.

Speaker 7 (30:26):
He got probation for he was the one that had
the electric in his name because I haven't anything enough.

Speaker 6 (30:30):
I was just happened to be there, yea, even though
I ran. So the guy who, uh who had the
electric in his amount of stuff, he got two years probation.
And the crazy thing is that the crime read is
this manufacturing anything other than pcpop. So I'm like, you're
fucking kidding me, dude. I mean, I'm old. I'm fort
nine years old, forty years old.

Speaker 5 (30:51):
That's life.

Speaker 6 (30:51):
Yeah, if you're a twenty two year old at the
kid that was you know that that was trimminal? Was it?
When somebody reads that for a.

Speaker 5 (30:58):
Job, I can't have that on my record.

Speaker 6 (30:59):
Yeah, but but you go to uh, you know, to
go get a job, they're gonna see that the guy's
manufacturing anything. They didn't think he's been trying to pc
P or freaking or or math or crack or whatever
the something. I'm not thinking this guy's process in marijuana
for me, And.

Speaker 3 (31:12):
Even then it was still like, oh fuck, you're doing that.

Speaker 6 (31:14):
Yeah, So I was like tripping out. So it was
just it was it was, it was just crazy. Then
I forgot what my train of thought was going with
with that.

Speaker 3 (31:23):
Did they change it though?

Speaker 5 (31:24):
Did they change it?

Speaker 6 (31:24):
No? They never, They fucking never did. And I was
so upset because you know that's still in there. So anyway,
so now I know where I was going with that.

Speaker 7 (31:32):
After four years, you know, my attorney, you know, uh,
you know, talking to ideas that you know, you know
what the wresting officer, those.

Speaker 6 (31:38):
That want to drop doesn't want to drop this. They
had a hard up for you.

Speaker 7 (31:42):
Well, who the fuck is you know, you know, you
know running the show? Is he or you know what
I'm saying, it's four years were really gonna take districtors.
I had nothing to news. They never even offered me anything.
The offered several people, you know, I got a Joie
Freaquarty they rated and they didn't they Uh so they
said we're gonna take it to trial.

Speaker 6 (31:57):
You know we're gonna We're gonna take it to trial.

Speaker 7 (31:59):
So I was willing to into the box. So the
data was that that we went there for the last
arrangement before setting the date. Happened to be with the
owner troll Master, you know, my partner, and he said, uh,
you knows Therman Company.

Speaker 6 (32:14):
I'm like, yeah, come on the scale. So he goes,
I'm a good luck chime and I'm like, okay, cool, sure, sure.

Speaker 7 (32:19):
So we went to uh we went to Orville, sat down,
and then they gave me, if you like, we an
offer oh back the charge.

Speaker 6 (32:25):
That's what that charge read. So and that's a felony
that sticks for good. You can never come off.

Speaker 7 (32:30):
So then they offered me maintained the charge was they
dropped all the charges and the charge was maintaining a
place to commit a film, which is a Wobbler felony.
So you get two years probation WBLERU Whibler. After a year,
if you don't there's no incidents, you can apply for
a termination probation. Termination approbation, you get done, and then
it goes to a misdemeanor. So I'm like, you're kidding me.

(32:53):
I'm building a fucking facility. Uh, you know stated our
facility in sycol Anthea. I spent millions on and uh,
now do I sign this? I'm guaranteed pretty much. And
then my attorney structured a way that I could still
have this, you know, I could still operate a business.
And you know, Danness industry.

Speaker 6 (33:08):
What do I think at the trial? Sign me up?
You know? Where do I sign this? Is? It was
you know, pretty much, it was no brainer. It was like,
you know, it was an offer I couldn't refuse. Nice.

Speaker 2 (33:18):
So then now you have you have a product, a
couple of product lines, and then so let's talk that
like you have a lighting company or.

Speaker 7 (33:27):
I'm uh, I'm partners with troll Master and Think well,
troll Master's the parent company. Okay, troll Master owns think Bro,
Think I Think early D and we met. We met
after I got raided in in Oreville. I uh went
to the big depression a couple of months, you know,
figure out what I was gonna do, uh collect the money.
I was on the street and I said, funk, I'm

(33:48):
gonna go back to consulting, you know, the consulting. So
then I started consulting back again, you know, and this
guy out.

Speaker 6 (33:55):
Of Oregon picked me up to say, you know, I'm
I heard stuff about you on Instagram because I used
to do a lot of pictorials and Instagram.

Speaker 7 (34:00):
I've been deleted on Instagram like twenty nine times. This
was like my first account, and uh, you know, this
guy told me to look you up. And you know,
it wasn't going to cost so, you know, I think
I think I dropped my my price on like fifty
six hundred bucks everything included, you know, come in for
for a day consultant.

Speaker 6 (34:17):
So I went there and then I consulted with him.
It was a it was a trap, big trap, Little
Portland one hundred and ten light trap.

Speaker 7 (34:24):
You know, three shitty houses, a building in the back
of one, and uh that was a pole born transformed
into it into a growth, and then two.

Speaker 6 (34:33):
Huge oversize kind of like a Roge made huts in
the back that were you know, and the guy was
growing with hids and it was black mold everywhere and
a panda film and just wires everywhere and stuff like that.

Speaker 3 (34:47):
Ye in there shocked every time.

Speaker 6 (34:49):
It was just it was just like, oh my god,
I can't believe that I've been reduced to doing this
shift for the rest of my life and I.

Speaker 7 (34:54):
Never gonna see my family and my drive around. So anyway,
I consulted for him, and then he did a couple changes.
He was doing big big coco pots in in like
like like a crate with wheels so he can move
him around. And we were just thought for a couple
of days.

Speaker 6 (35:13):
I end up standing there a couple days in a
couple of people that I knew, and then uh, I
went back to the Florida. I remember something that he said,
So I was I was gonna go to I was
gonna go to court, like six months to five was
going to jail. My mind was more to jail. So
he said I was gonna pay his friend some X
amount of money to help, and so I say, hey,
you know, I called him and says, what did you
hire me for five months to uh the wharf.

Speaker 7 (35:34):
He goes, I'll tell you what, if you come here
you knew my my construction skills, uh and my growing skills.

Speaker 6 (35:41):
He is, if you come here and and you uh
every room that you swapped with.

Speaker 7 (35:45):
Me from from from Coco to rockwell and irrigate it
in that are you know, automated irrigation, I'll split with you.
I said, okay, I'll be there in six days. One request,
I want to bring one guy with you. Well, the
guys that I got rated with. The guy actually had
the electrical somebody's name, well friends to this day, see.

Speaker 6 (36:03):
I want to take one guy. I don't know what
the work ethic was.

Speaker 7 (36:05):
So and then he had work ethics. So we went
over there and then I started working with him, and
then we transferred. We started doing room at a time.
When we got done with the first room, you know,
I started doing the Instagram thing you know where you
know we were, you know you are showing your work.
It is I want to, you know, get more work.
The guy comes to the owner comes to me. You

(36:25):
ever you ever work, give you the controllers.

Speaker 6 (36:28):
I'm like, no, I just have automatic timers, you know,
intermatic you know, turn on, turn off, the works and mechanical.
But okay, well I just met this dude. You know
we're gonna use this.

Speaker 7 (36:36):
And then that's where the original troll Master control little
kind of really.

Speaker 6 (36:41):
That fucking things going to control everything. It's that thing
breaks everything goes down, goes down. Dude, you know a PhD.
If you can fixing, well, okay, well we're gonna do it.

Speaker 7 (36:51):
I'm say so these two Asian dudes come whatever and
they go into the room next door, and I'm over
here and they work and they leave, and I come
back and I go into this room, wires everywhere.

Speaker 6 (37:01):
It just took me, like, you know, a few weeks
to build this thing out and then high every wires.
I died perfectly the same, you know, the whole deal,
and these us just come make a mess. So I pissed.

Speaker 7 (37:12):
You know, we talk it out with his guys just
you know, is going there and do the things. So
I went in there, I clean cleaned up the Asian.
You come back the next day and looks like he goes,
you do this. I'm like, yeah, you do this, okay, okay,
and then the owner gonna say you got social media?
He goes, yeah, I got Facebook and YouTube.

Speaker 6 (37:29):
Because I like, not talk to this guy. That's why
I set him for like fifteen minutes.

Speaker 7 (37:33):
And by Instagram hashtag back in the day, we used
to be hashtag hykaponics hash that we has cannabis, hasta whatever. Right,
and we're going to the explorer page and you could
see your your your followers kind of grow dating. So
the guy goes to LA, goes to LA. That's a
little research. Comes back a week later, he goes, I
don't want sponsors, and I'm thinking, fuck in the back
of mind the fact this guy just came up.

Speaker 6 (37:54):
Hard, came appart, you know, Okay, cool, good for him,
good fan, What about me? Yeah, you're right. It looks
at me.

Speaker 7 (38:01):
He goes, and you and I were going to work together,
and like, yeah, I've heard that before. I've heard that before.
Now you know the dude the troll masters out. You know,
you can hand you can handshake that dude's hand, and
uh is as good as ink in a contract or.

Speaker 6 (38:16):
Company pro Master tro Master t Master the probably the
most well known. Yes, that's awesome.

Speaker 7 (38:21):
And he's got Hong Kong uh been in Hong Kong forever.
Smart dude, very you know, very business oriented, so we.

Speaker 6 (38:30):
We chatted and he goes, hey, man, don't do it
online store. I'm like, fuck, yeah, let's do it, because
what about you want to take a hydro stores.

Speaker 7 (38:37):
I'm like no, because he used to go up and
down the one to go to every hydro store from
Jane Diego all.

Speaker 6 (38:41):
The way up to Washington State and that's how he found.

Speaker 5 (38:44):
His old West Coast a little pamphlet, you know.

Speaker 7 (38:47):
So so yeah, let's do it. You know whatever it's
in chatting, think I'm going to jail if you know,
if it's still a stupid online store. Can fucking two
hundred dollars a month, you know, one hundred dollars a month, whatever,
eight hundred a month, thousand dollars a month, just less money.

Speaker 6 (39:00):
My wife has to go get out of the shoe box,
you know what I'm saying, you know said there.

Speaker 7 (39:04):
I remember like we started the online store and then
uh it started like at a twenty fifth twenty seven
for the month, you know, like three or four days,
I mean like three hundred bucks.

Speaker 5 (39:12):
I was like, I mean three hundred bucks, right, you
know online whatever, I'm not doing anything.

Speaker 6 (39:17):
On Instagram, you know whatever.

Speaker 7 (39:19):
And then the next month it was like twelve hundred
bucks did I make you know saying before you fucking know,
we're selling fucking a million.

Speaker 6 (39:25):
I think my record month was one point eight million. Wow,
selling controllers. We're like a.

Speaker 5 (39:30):
Crazy So that was the biggest money maker you ever had.
That it was this.

Speaker 7 (39:35):
This the least amount of time that I ever spent
contracts like I'm going to jail. It's a contract that
this thing is gonna freaking start whatever it might.

Speaker 6 (39:43):
It might make, it might not make it.

Speaker 7 (39:45):
You know, I'm going to jail if my wife can
pay the mortgage. And she said a cardiac ic U nurse,
so she can pay all the rest of the bills and.

Speaker 6 (39:51):
Probably hold her own. And I just didn't want to lose.

Speaker 7 (39:54):
I didn't want to come out of jail in two, three,
four years and then fucking have no next leg. No,
you know that the bucket, you know, the shoe box
you wanted to do.

Speaker 3 (40:02):
Ad dollars checking, that's your comeback kit.

Speaker 6 (40:05):
That's your comeback kit, exactly every starter up. When I
sold everything after I got raided, I left sixteen lights
in a CS and humidifiers in a in a warehouse,
paid for three years just in case. I mean that
was your Compa's part of the comeback kit. Yeah, you know,
like insurance that you're gonna come out of this and
make it. I'm gonna start something out.

Speaker 7 (40:22):
Yeah, you know, worst comes to work. So so this
thing took off that it's just like unexpected.

Speaker 6 (40:28):
There give me this controller and this controller goes, hey, man,
these things don't work. You gotta do this to this.
Maybe in the next model. Maybe in the next model
you can improve. He goes, next model, we can fix that.
What do you mean you can fix that? Go to
the controller, pull out the micro chip, stick it in
your computer, and then two hours later, off freaking I'll

(40:48):
redo your software. Like you're kidding me. This is fucking great,
this is awesome. So I started giving feedback as an
actual grower. This needs to be changed, that needs to
be changed. They see if we can do this, well,
I remember it's because.

Speaker 5 (41:00):
Your expertise isn't growing.

Speaker 4 (41:02):
So you're helping the guys that are doing it, and
you got all the tech engineers following your lead of like,
let's do this.

Speaker 7 (41:08):
It is being amazing? Is it being like ying and yang?
Like I couldn't have planned. Like the worst day of
my life was getting raided. It's also the best day
of my.

Speaker 6 (41:16):
Life because they're directed and you don't see these things
when we're happening to you, and.

Speaker 4 (41:20):
You don't realize I'm about to go do this. Is
this what my life came to, because that's part of
your story going. I can't believe I'm doing this for
this guy. I'm doing this for this guy created a
million dollar check for you.

Speaker 3 (41:31):
Isn't that crazy? Great moral the story there.

Speaker 6 (41:34):
And you could never see it. People tell me you're
gonna be fine and be fine, and here you are
feeling pitiful for yourself.

Speaker 5 (41:39):
And I can't believe I'm doing this. This is what
I'm resorted to.

Speaker 7 (41:43):
Yes, I'm gonna be fucking flying around living a multiply
when I was blowing the backyard right now with the blower.

Speaker 6 (41:51):
Forever. So so now I mean we're partners on the
We're partners on the grow you know, the Grove, partners
on the on the new bh O water has lab too.
I have to say DHL Lab just to go fuck.

Speaker 3 (42:04):
You to the yeah yeah coming back yeah yeah.

Speaker 4 (42:09):
So now he's part with Mango Tech and Miami Mango. Yes, yes,
you got the good back in there, like just do
it all together.

Speaker 6 (42:15):
We're all mixed a little bit in there. I'm gonna
say how much of what of what? But we're all
in well in the soup, you know, and together.

Speaker 4 (42:22):
Well that's what's great because you get the text behind
the growers. So you got the business guys that have
done that your business since doing this, you come together,
you create the most magic.

Speaker 7 (42:31):
It worked like a charm, you know. So so I
am I am one of the product developers now for
troll Master. You know, one of the guys that I
pitched them on a lot of stuff. You know, I
see including this building, this, this, this facility that we built,
this this commercial facility. I see a lot of voids
in the in the industry. So we developed on new products.

Speaker 6 (42:51):
Then they're gonna be they're gonna be showing that there's
a new m J. Bass every year. We just come
up with new products. Nice. When you're on top two,
people always try to knock you off, you know. So
there's I know, there's a lot other controller companies that
are trying to bring their price down to match strow Master.
You can't beat troe Master for the price point.

Speaker 7 (43:07):
There's no fuck away, And they're trying like hell, So
then we'll the only way to stay on top is
by innovative and making new products and you know, thinking
outside the box and expanding your your your your fingers
out there and see what else can you develop? So
and then make it all work seamlessly withatrol Master controllers.
That's the key, which right now there's no control there's
no lighting. The light company that works seamlessly with.

Speaker 6 (43:30):
The controllers like pro Master or Lights or led Lights
or probably the best in the industry, even not want
to put best in the industry, just put the control ability.
Everybody everybody uses to sign the same diary mats by
the controllability is insane. The background of the the other partner,
engineer control Master, he used to work with Centinel back
in the day as part of out of pilot team.

(43:51):
That's part of the tiping tem and then they went
on their own to do their own brand. And then
you work out so well, I mean we had to
restructure a plan. So they had their own history too,
you know, their own stories of fault situations and you know,
and you know you could get through it whoever at well, listen, we're.

Speaker 3 (44:07):
Gonna go to break and when we come back. We're
gonna do the high five. It's cannabis.

Speaker 4 (44:10):
I don't want to hear about the flower that you've grown, Like,
what are the names? Because you've been growing this ship.

Speaker 5 (44:14):
For a long time. I'm sure you have your own strains.

Speaker 3 (44:19):
On the Come on, Penny Times.

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Nineteen eighty. Can't leave on the point mail.

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Alex the owner of Miami Mango.

Speaker 5 (45:07):
Oh your stories, dude, I mean Blue just had to.

Speaker 3 (45:11):
Take a break real quick or quick call.

Speaker 4 (45:13):
But since you've been growing and you have a cannabis
brand out here in California.

Speaker 5 (45:19):
What are your main strains that you're known for.

Speaker 6 (45:22):
Oh, we're gonna go back. There was there was a
sprain back in the day that was called Crypto, the
original crypto.

Speaker 5 (45:32):
And then.

Speaker 6 (45:34):
We remember as far as back as nineteen eighty five
eighty six, and that's almost before I even smoked me.

Speaker 7 (45:40):
I sold we I didn't smoke me back then, eighty
five eighty six. I used to make fun of my
best friendly used to smoke. He used to go buy
this weed from the surfer, long, long, long haired dude,
go Taco Joe. It's called Crypto.

Speaker 6 (45:53):
And it was like super fluffy, like hard fluffy green,
if that makes any sense, but like solid, but it
looked like styrofoam, barely any red hairs.

Speaker 4 (46:03):
And it was called crypto crypto and before the Crypto
Grave of cryptocurrency.

Speaker 6 (46:09):
So so then Crypto was obviously this this this thing.
And then and then other weeds came out. I mean
there was ty stick. There was a skunk then that
was a little butter of course to stink everything.

Speaker 7 (46:20):
But then other there was there was a lot of
cubans that started growing weed in my uh started growing
weed you know, all kinds of different strains. The Hasius
came out. There was unreal hasies that came out of there.
And then the humans started calling everything creepy, crippy. Everything
was crippy from that point, you know, you know, our
crypto was k R you know, like like Superman crypto.

Speaker 6 (46:39):
But every everything came to crippy, crippy, culpy. If it
has seedless, it was crippy, and it was creepy to
them because that's whatever seedless there they used to dealer,
used to used to deal with. But that we's probably
the best wead that that I think that I remember
that we ever had. And that then there came the
Orange Crush. And after the Orange Crush, I met this

(47:00):
even guy that had this this this string called Minu Mango,
so it's called it was called mango, and then it
came the nickname was Miami Manga because that's it was
just all over Miami. Everybody grew and we liked it.
It was a it was a yielder. So we grew
that weed for years and it made me a lot
of money. I mean, that's you know, that was the
era that I was building a lot of growth for
people and I would give them that strain and says,

(47:21):
you row this because of yields as a hitter, and
I can get top dollar for it. I mean I would,
I would get that weed. I would sell it for
what straight up, I didn't care if you about want
or review bought freaking twenty it was roughly for underbu
It didn't matter. Yes, it was uh so that one
made a lot of money. So then when I started

(47:41):
find out so that that was probably one of the
that's where the my main Mango name came from. Uh
my kid, my kid, you know about Instagram and my
mother fing by Instagram, and I used to go to
his house. That was anti social.

Speaker 5 (47:56):
Media, right, nobody needs to know what I'm doing.

Speaker 7 (47:59):
Something you don't fucking So I used to catch myself
going out of the way to go visit my friend.
You know, if I'll first go sell them and say,
let me see your phone, and you popped Instagram, and
I would started looking at these idiots posting on Instagram,
you know, bunch idiots.

Speaker 6 (48:11):
I became one of those idiots.

Speaker 5 (48:14):
You're like, I am one of those idiots now for sure,
for sure.

Speaker 6 (48:16):
I'm king idiot. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (48:19):
So so after a while, I was like, I gotta
go to this guy's house like half far away from
It's like, you know, I'll give my my my son
a phone that says hey, I start me.

Speaker 6 (48:27):
On Instagram and he's like, okay, okay. So he loaded
that and he goes, what do you want to name it? Okay,
name it this, just take it. Name it dad, take it.
So after like I know four or five names, I said,
call him Iam Mango. That's taken. I go put a
period in the middle, and then I came through. And
then that was why, you know, because I sold that

(48:48):
string forever.

Speaker 5 (48:49):
I was just going to be that mango baby.

Speaker 7 (48:51):
If once again, if I would have ever thought that
my mango, that this thing would have came out to
be what it is today, I probably wouldn't name it that.

Speaker 6 (48:57):
But it's just the way, and I try to change
it several times, and then people tell me, don't don't know.

Speaker 5 (49:02):
It's part of your legacy. It's a yeah, leave it.

Speaker 3 (49:05):
I love it now even more so.

Speaker 6 (49:07):
Be so.

Speaker 4 (49:07):
Yeah, because even though you're growing it out of Sacramento,
the story now makes all the sense in the world.

Speaker 6 (49:11):
I love it. Yeah, yeah, So we we brought it
to Sacramento.

Speaker 7 (49:14):
We we brought it here and then we're gonna start,
you know, reading it with a bunch of other other strains,
you know, and then see what We'll see what pops.

Speaker 6 (49:21):
Up, you know.

Speaker 5 (49:22):
And so now what are your big sellers out of
Sacramento with your brand? Oh, we got a Miami mango obviously,
the Mummi mango.

Speaker 7 (49:28):
Yes, Mimay mango. We're going to sell in the extracts.
We're going to see, We're going to see if the
market accept it. You know, there's you know, there's it's funny.
It's funny if you go to if you go to
the East coast, if you go to the East Coast,
it's got a little slightly different flavor, slightly different flavor
than than the West Coast. And then even the direct
facilities have the dispensaries have you had a little different flavor.

Speaker 6 (49:52):
So the book market calls for candy gas. That's all
they wanted. That's all they want to, right, candy gas,
candy gas, candy gas. You can tell nothing else because
that's just what they want. On the dispensary is kind
of one a little bit different stuff than just canny guys,
because they gotta have flavor on the shelf.

Speaker 7 (50:07):
So we we're growing right now. Where I got this
unbelievable cut of Flamingo runs. It's super flavor before runs.
You said Flamingo that we had.

Speaker 5 (50:18):
The Miami flavor. They over the Flamingo runs.

Speaker 6 (50:23):
It's it's just a cut. That's gracious.

Speaker 3 (50:27):
Dog dog any brothers Mexicans come in here. He's always
marketing for real. He's terrible. He's terrible.

Speaker 6 (50:34):
We got we got a couple of different I brought a.

Speaker 5 (50:40):
Dog. He ain't going back to smack him.

Speaker 3 (50:47):
It's so funny with it, right, it was so funny.
Make him go smell them and just get him.

Speaker 5 (50:52):
Go sorry about that.

Speaker 7 (50:54):
I imported a white widow from Florida that is different
than white widow that they have here in come.

Speaker 6 (51:00):
You know when I told you guys, I wanna bring
this white red other like yeah, So I brought it
this and then go, wow, that is different. That's see,
that's different.

Speaker 7 (51:06):
That's like the not like the white that we've had here,
and it's happened sometimes it's just different, different females or
whatever there.

Speaker 6 (51:12):
So I brought that back. I'm working on getting this
other hash plant back from Florida to here. There's a
little bit a little process. I'm gonna get that. I'll
start mixing all those kind of breathing and see what happens.

Speaker 7 (51:23):
We have another another candy candy gases called Fucci Puci Fuci, you.

Speaker 6 (51:30):
Know, like Puci, like Pucichi Fuci. Somebody farts or smells bad.

Speaker 5 (51:35):
In the room our back in the eighth grade, Pucci.

Speaker 7 (51:41):
So yeah, we call the Fuci Fuci and then I'm
working on artwork for that. And then we got a
lot of the other.

Speaker 6 (51:46):
Strings that you know that that in the market. You
know that the ho things that that are out there,
you know, we we run that through.

Speaker 4 (51:53):
Well that's good, dude. So people can go to the website.
They can order the lights everything for a bro. You've
heard the story where you're probably putting up the best
things because trial and error, you understand exactly what you've
done wrong.

Speaker 5 (52:05):
You got online what to do right with the business.
I mean literally, you built how many you.

Speaker 6 (52:11):
Think, oh fuck it, I couldn't tell you. I built
a lot, definitely over two hundred or two hundred.

Speaker 5 (52:17):
And that's what I mean.

Speaker 4 (52:18):
So when you go to these websites and you mess
with this company. Folks, you know you're dealing with some
quality stuff here. You know you're dealing with a quality business,
whether it's Mango Tech or Miami Mango Cannabis. Our guy
Alex right here, dude, I'll call you our guy because
I like you now. I like he's a real pioneer
of it, like you know, the real og that's been
doing it because you got to fuck with people who've

(52:40):
really been in the game like that. And when people
have done what you've done like this, and you and
not only that, props to your parents for doing the
struggle from coming from everything there in Colombia to coming
here to the States and rebuilding and putting your monkey
ass in private.

Speaker 3 (52:55):
School and struggling.

Speaker 4 (52:56):
That's dope family history inheritage that I appreciate. And you
know what I mean to hear your story like this,
dude is dope. So folks, Miami Mango and when you
see it, you know what it's about. It gets the stamp,
like Blue just said. And if you want to grow something,
go check out Miami Tech or Mango Tech. Excuse me,
because it gets the stamp. It gets the stamp of approval.

(53:17):
Because I'll tell you right now, we're giving you that
stamp of approval of wow, because we didn't. We weren't
hip on you dog before you came in here. I
ain't gonna find we thought you were from Miami.

Speaker 2 (53:25):
Because Robert Robert Lewis is one of my former students
in my education platform. So I rolled out of Cannabis
Educacation Platform years ago and he went through my program
and then so he hit me up and he was
just like, oh, you want to you know, he was like,
I guess he was at the airport and you seen
somebody rocking a lanyard and it said Miami Mango and
he's like and it's a cannabis And.

Speaker 3 (53:46):
He's like, dude, you work for the airport and you're
rocking that. And he's like, yeah, that's cool boy.

Speaker 6 (53:51):
I was like, send me the picture. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (53:52):
He sent me the picture too. Yeah, And I was like, yes,
let's let's get it.

Speaker 5 (53:55):
You know, that's how we got this guy.

Speaker 3 (53:57):
You know, it's not coming in from Florida too.

Speaker 5 (54:00):
I was like, we all thought that. Actually we're all
talking about earlier.

Speaker 7 (54:03):
Well, my product is in True Leafs in one hundred
and over one hundred and sixty stores in Truly dispensaries
in Florida, so you can go get the product there
if you want the library, which is ungodly flavorful, one
of the best libraarsid that there is. So we are
in we have you have a frescence in calling a
miniature MSL because I owned the license there too to

(54:24):
be able to sell the product there. And uh, pretty
shortly we'll be into the spensers here in Sacramento and
then we're going to spread out.

Speaker 4 (54:32):
Well that's nice, brother, we'd like to do the high
five with all the guests that come in here. So Alex,
question number one, how old are you the first time
he smoked weed? Probably after a soccer game or something
hopefully maybe not. And where who'd you get it from?

Speaker 6 (54:44):
Ah? Probably smoked first. It was probably with my my
friend at that time there in the Brino was probably
eight roughly about eighteen years old, nineteen years old. Oh
the Bloomer, Yeah, late bloom and I sold weed before
I smoked for Sia.

Speaker 2 (54:56):
Question number two of the high five, what is your
favorite way to use or smoke cannabis? Joint just straight
up joint, any kind of flavor in particular certain brand
mango cannabis.

Speaker 5 (55:08):
I am, I am.

Speaker 7 (55:08):
You know the mango's guy that he's got a fruity flavor.
Some people will say jack, some people say has no
jack in it something. You know, it's just it's got
the mango tones. I like the fruits, you know, fruits,
but I'll smoke whatever something.

Speaker 6 (55:19):
It's just good, you know, in the decent.

Speaker 7 (55:20):
Yeah, yeah, and it expands, you know, And I'm more
about the flavor instead of just getting high.

Speaker 6 (55:24):
So you get through high now when you're older. Yeah,
it's a little paranoid, like too out of body experience
is not the same lights it used to be.

Speaker 5 (55:31):
I think you should shirt grow in a flavor called
BOTHA got them. That'd be a good one, right there?

Speaker 3 (55:42):
What you smoking from both? Question number three of the
high five. Craziest place you ever used or smoke cannabis?

Speaker 6 (55:51):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 7 (55:55):
Man, the craziest place I know, I've done it so
stupid ship, right, But I just it's hard. I don't know,
it's hard to pinpoint which one.

Speaker 6 (56:06):
I don't know. Man, A cruise ship walking through the hallway,
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (56:11):
That's stuper crazy because you have nowhere else to go
and figure the hall way. I guess that's a good one. Actually,
I think it's a federal one too, because you're in
the federal is crazy.

Speaker 5 (56:20):
It's crazier than you really think about it.

Speaker 6 (56:22):
Like you know, so probably going through the through the halls,
just like care, you know, drunk or whatever, coming back
from the little casino. Not that I embired it a
little little bit, just burning, burning in the hallway, just
for the Yeah, because you can.

Speaker 5 (56:37):
Exactly.

Speaker 3 (56:39):
Question number four of the High five, what is your
go to munchie after you get high?

Speaker 6 (56:44):
I remember you guys send me this question. I didn't realized.
Why doesn't look like I'm prejudiced any food?

Speaker 3 (56:50):
You know, just eat, that's for sure.

Speaker 5 (56:53):
That's not cuban, which is there?

Speaker 6 (56:55):
You go to the refrigerator and whatever's left over is gone.

Speaker 5 (56:57):
YEA, not a bad to do it? Not a little dude,
which I like.

Speaker 3 (57:02):
It's a good one, Alex.

Speaker 4 (57:03):
Question number five or the High five, if you can
smoke cannabis with anyone dead or alive.

Speaker 3 (57:08):
Who would it be? And why?

Speaker 6 (57:10):
Okay, let her alive? No, not that answer. I don't know.
Let me see that alive. Mm hmm, I don't know.
If I don't know. Trying to think let's say Bob Marley.

(57:31):
I don't know why. It's an iconic weed smoker reggae.
I don't know why.

Speaker 5 (57:37):
I don't know why I was thinking, you're gonna say
fordel Castro.

Speaker 4 (57:40):
I was holding on to you, not a yeah, That's
why I was thinking him. I want to smoke with him,
to be like, why the fuck are wen like that?

Speaker 6 (57:50):
There? Why? Mary? And I don't know this Probably a
bunch of different better answers than that, but that's just
what comes to mind at all.

Speaker 5 (58:00):
No, that's a good answer.

Speaker 2 (58:01):
Well, like, listen, it's been awesome having you on the show.
Is there anything that we forgot before we let you
get on out of here that you want to bring up?

Speaker 7 (58:07):
The facility in Sacramento was built for a purpose. It
is a working operating show. Uh we uh we do
tours for companies. You know when we built this thing
is I used to get calls all the time, Hey,
working we see your products, we can see your products,
We want to see your products.

Speaker 6 (58:24):
I didn't have a grow. I was going to fucking
a legal process that I couldn't have to grow.

Speaker 7 (58:29):
So when when, when the light of the nd funnel
was there, I told you know, from ask what should
build to grow and he.

Speaker 6 (58:34):
Kind of didn't take too good to it.

Speaker 7 (58:35):
And then later on he uh, he came back and
then we built it just grow and then is it
working operating showroom. So if anybody that's looking to build
your facility, looking to spend over one hundred grand in
my store, you're a VIP passed to to to the
grow will tour you through there. You gotta you gotta
vm me, email me, fill it all questionnaire and sign

(58:57):
an MBA Viewers Agreement and you get a private VIP
to by me to the whole facility and.

Speaker 6 (59:03):
I'll give you thirty thirty years for the game in
that in that space, state of the art facility, super clean,
it's almost like it's like a hospital field. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (59:15):
I love when you see grows like that. But to me,
that's the coolest part about it. You've got to come
down there and check it out.

Speaker 6 (59:20):
Doc. Well, welcome, come on out, mother, welcome you sir. Yeah,
that'd be done.

Speaker 3 (59:24):
Well, thanks again for joining the show. It's Cannabis Talk
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