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October 15, 2021 48 mins

Tony Kassaei, the creator of The insider investors club, shares how his life was saved by his attorney, how he met 5xIFBB Champ Steve Kuclo and ‘Lil D. Then Joe Grande and ‘Lil D have a beatbox competition.

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
It's now time for Cannabis Talk one oh one with
Blue Joe Grande and Mark and Craig Wasserman the Pot
Brothers at Law. We're the world's number one podcast for
everything cannabis. Welcome back to Cannabis Talk one on one
live here in Houston, Texas at the Counterculture Convention. You know,
as we're at the Counterculture Convention, I really want to

(00:24):
bring up a story because Justin Bieber is breaking into
the cannabis game, you guys, with his new brand Peaches.
I'm not sure if you heard about this, but he
just announced it earlier in the week that he has
joined forces with Los Angeles based company Palms and the
Mega star has collaborated with the brand to launch his

(00:44):
first ever cannabis brand. Funny that he's from Canada hooking
up with people from Los Angeles, and you know where
he gets his weed. He talks about it in the songs.
He gets his weed from Cali. So not only does
he get a cally, he now has Peaches as his brand.
From Kelly Joe hold On saying, I'm wondered why Chris

(01:06):
fag you know standard right here, I'm wondering too. I
supposed to news and we're getting to the segment you
know I've got I've try and tell you I've got
a special guest. You know it's a surprize guest. And
he he didn't want to tell me. Let me tell
you who he was. He said, you want to stay anonymous.
Isn't my brother in law? Isn't my brother in law? Nick?
That looks like this jolly green giant. He might be
in Houston, Texas story looking gentleman for sure? And but

(01:29):
what's the furthest thing from a definitely appreciate Nick. He's
brought us water today, he's brought us breakfast fast. The
girls brought us breakfast. Thank you guys breakfast and at
least and my sister in law. They're so nice, very
kind people who knew no. But I want to bring
our special friend. We all know him. He's a he's
a friend of the show. I letna bring Tony up

(01:50):
here from Tony from Cider Show. Ladies and gentlemen, please
give it up to the monster himself. He sounds a
lot taller than he lives here, because this is the
guy that when you hear him, I think he's six four,
but he's really four six. That's what he's on real

(02:15):
quick for those of you guys are listening, don't know.
We're we're here to live Evan right now. And Tony
walks up. He's a friend of the show, and he said,
I really want to get on the show, but don't
tell the guys. Right. So we've been, you know, working
for the last couple of hours to try to coordinate
to get him on the show. Kind of surprising guys.
So the thing about Tony is the funny relationship how

(02:35):
all this went down, meaning, and I'm gonna tell this story, Tony.
I better yet, Tony, you tell the story how you
and Blue met first? Because I love how Blue does
this all the time and it's part of his personality
that I love. And it's at a restaurant. No, no, no, no,
not a bar. That was the second time. Wasn't the
first time we met was in the bathroom about I'm

(02:55):
just kidding you guys, right, story, You guys are at
a restaurant, right, at a bar? First of all? Really
almost five pm at a cannabis convention, Yeah, fucking speak
with all the samples and mobile bar and the green
ruins and the fucking bus like for all my investors,

(03:20):
I don't talk like this when I invest your ship. Uh,
first of all, you guys give it up for fucking cannabis.
Talk one one. I'm gonna tell you guys right now, man,
this is Uh. I've never been to Houston. I grew
up in Dallas and I live in the Socialist Republic
of California right now, and uh, I'm gonna tell you

(03:41):
right now, man, this is fucking cool. Man. You're you're
in a state and I just posted something. How fucked
up is it that people are in prison for fucking
weed and this ship's out here? Yeah? Man, that's why
we're in a fucking state that it's illegal. Can I
even talk like this? Yeah, yeah, whatever you want. Like
this ship fucking affects me personally. You guys know this, man,

(04:03):
Like fuck, it's ridiculous, you know, Tony, It's it's it's
one of the things that we we dear to our heart.
This is dear to our heart that we get the
message out. We provide education and information to allow of
people to know that story. And I'm glad you bring
that up because there are so many people out there,
um minorities and individuals of all even girls like that girl.

(04:27):
There's so many wrestler that have been arrested in this space.
And and again we're we're right here being able to
celebrate this plant and talk about this plant, and and
and if anybody knows Delta eight is cannabis, I mean,
I don't you know. It's not. There's no secret to it,
there's no magical not it's it's marijuana, you know what
I mean. It's just it's just took out Delta nine
so they can make illegal and it's still psychoactive, it's

(04:49):
still get you high, and it's being so and it's beautiful.
I'm not mad at it. I'm just saying that you're right.
There's a lot of people that are serving past. I'm
gonna tell you right now. Walking into this, into this
convention today, seeing how open it is and knowing there's
people in fucking prison for this ship pisses me off.
Oh yeah, it's funny that you say that, because when
I ponder and I start to think of it, are here,

(05:09):
Mark Washerman, do it one kind of goes bad story
and somebody gets arrested for it and they literally that's
all they had on them, you know what I mean?
Are even worse the propaganda of it when he tells
a story and they use cannabis as the headline, but
he really had five balances of coke and seventeen machine
and they propaganda fucking you know, cannabis and he had

(05:30):
an eighth of wheat on it, you know what I'm saying.
So it's like both sides of those scenarios. I agree
with you, Tony. It not only hurts me, it breaks
my heart. Speaking of like when you know the medical benefits.
I have a cousin of mine that I haven't shared
the story on the show yet, but he's got stage
four cancer and we're using cannabis to treat it for him.
And it's like, Dude, this is the type of stuff

(05:52):
that's thank god legal in California that we were able
to get to my cousin right right away. But if
it's like, what about people in Texas where can't they
do that? What do people in Nebraska? What do people
in Kansas? That? Come on you guys, well, real quick
before we go too deep into this, man, Tony, I wanna,
I wanna really talk about the Insider show, you know,

(06:12):
can we talk about your show? Sure? Yo? Listen, tell
us about your show man, because well who you're here with, Tony.
I don't like to talk about myself too much because
for me, man, I uh, you guys are like my
brothers now man and um you know I we were
talking about this earlier. The more I don't like fucking kangaroos.

(06:34):
People are like, what do you got? What do you
want to promote? What are you doing? Like? My fucking
arms are this fucking big. I don't know what you're doing.
I don't know where you're doing. I want to know
what you're doing. And my boy Steve Coukola right here,
right now that I want to bring up. I'm about
the whoop you better up about to get him? Yeah, okay,

(07:02):
holy sh it, get the chicken breasts out man before us.
Those who don't know, if you google gorilla or if
you google mcgilla, gorilla, he kind of looks just like
grape baber, but white and just buff, like a big
old gorilla. It looks like he just came straight from there.

(07:26):
You can slow down a little bit. I'm Italian, Italian nice,
you know what. I'll tell you what. I haven't seen
somebody this big buff in a while. Actually, I don't
even know. I mean, he's your full on bodybuilder if
I'm not mistaken ready to yeah, you're a full on
professional body because this buff right here is body building.
But that's why I say, I haven't seen this this

(07:47):
much since I, you know, a long time ago, since
I went to a convention where you see all these
guys that are this big. I gotta talk about it.
How much do you work out and what are you doing? Well?
I've been competing professionally for about been years and competing
total about eighteen years since I was eighteen, and um,
you know, kind of a hobby turn into career and
been able to be very successful at uh top six

(08:10):
bodybuilder you know in the world, um, competing to Mr Olympia.
Just recently competed in the Auto Classic, got third place,
and so it's it's, you know, really everything that I've
established done throughout my career has been through fitness and bodybuilding.
So at eighteen, where'd you grow up at? I grew
up in Detroit, So Detroit you just lifting tires and
fucking mufflers or what was I mean, what what made

(08:34):
you get into it? Because you're in the d hanging
out at the eight mile or I mean, what what
really got you to say? Okay, let me go to
the lifty ways sports? You know, I played hockey football
growing up. I always wanted to be the biggest, fastest,
strongest guy out there, and um, just that drive to
be the best version of me I could be. It
just was in the weight room. So from that it
just was that was my drug of choice. I love

(08:54):
I love weights and working out and working out. You know,
I'll tell you a fun thing about myself and I
he doesn't work out of my I work out. You know,
you can see how much I work out, right. No, No,
I have a conversation with people. I and I educate
as many people as I can, and I tell them
your business is like working out, you know. And people
open new businesses, they start them up and in two

(09:15):
months they expect to be completely the most ripped business
in the world. It doesn't work that way. It takes,
you know, the first three months, people are like, oh,
it's kind of you know, you're starting to work out,
you look good. Second, third month, fourth, fifth month, six month,
you're you're looking at him going down, You're starting to
work out, you're looking healthy, and then you know you're
into it a year working out and everybody, everybody knows
and they all want to get involved because they're going, hey, dude,

(09:37):
you look amazing. What's going on? And it's like your
business starts to work and as long as you continue
to work at it, that's how the world works. It
doesn't just happen. You don't just walk on the scene
and get instant graded. You don't just look like you
after a couple of years. I gotta find you online.
What is your full name again? What's what's your social media? Here?
Social media handles is Steve Cucolo's ku c l O
now now and now. You were also on Shark Tank.

(09:59):
Yeah with the remember that, Yeah, yeah, tell me about it.
That was a pretty cool experience. Ended up built a
brand the called Booty Queen Apparel. It's a fitness appear
line for women and uh, you know, kind of one
of those things where you just gotta knock on the
door and see it open. So we sent an email
into the um, you know when they say, hey, interested

(10:21):
in getting on the program, send an email. About three
months later they send an email back saying, hey, very
interested in in You know what you have sent, you know,
resume photos, and they obviously want some television, um, you know,
entertainment Barbara up. Yeah, did you dat after that? For

(10:43):
the right amount? Ye? If she pays right, Barbara, you
have a chance. Yeah. So end up getting a deal
with Damon John was you know, experience to be out there,
get in front of you know, a whole new audience
of people other than just you know, fitness world stuff
like that. So that definitely expanded what I do getting
in front of more people. I mean people will be like, yeah, yeah,

(11:06):
it's can I tell you something? But you know, I
had never known about bodybuilding or nothing. Right, No, you're
kidding me, not you. I would never guess that. Looking
at you next to Steve, you look like he's your bitch.
But what does that make you, Joe? No, ship, what

(11:27):
does that make you? Joe? It's like rent and steppy
over here? I think, Hey, I didn't know you worked
out this, kiddy. Don't go ahead, please U. I think
everybody looks at that industry as you know, one one
dimensional if you will, right. And when I met Steve, um,
I had a obviously we're close friends now, but from

(11:47):
a business standpoint, I look at his business acumen now
and when we do business together, we we do life.
He looks at ship the same way he does bodybuilding,
you know what I mean. And and to look like
this it does didn't happen fucking overnight into money. And
he's got shipped now that correlates with this industry. And
I want to take a few minutes and have him

(12:09):
tell that because I love helping people and I love
making ship happen. I don't want to be a kangaroo,
but he's got a fucking product that I think could
help the world, and I think can help this industry,
and I just wanted to give him platform. You know what, Tony, No,
I want to hear the platform. It's Tony over here
from the Insider Show and Steve Cucklow. You can find
him online at Steve Kuklow and I g follow him.

(12:31):
It's unbelievable just looking at some of these pages, and
I can't wait to hear about this Product's Cannabis Talk
one oh one. We'll be right back after this. Yes,
we'll be right back with Cannabis Talk one oh one.

(12:52):
Welcome back to Cannabis Talk one oh one. Take a hit,
get lit, sit back, and enjoy Cannabis Talk one oh
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Craig Wasserman who are absent because and they are and Blue.
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to break, Tony, you're talking about it as I'm perusing
Steve Cliflow's plage and it's just I just love admiring anyone.

(13:36):
But but no, Tony, to go off of kind of
what you said and to kind of elaborate what he
said as well, like all this hard working dedication that
Steve's done is as you're right, it's a lot of
where you got to spend six to eight hours a
day working out to be and keep up this body
that you have. You'd be surprised it's not as much

(13:57):
in the way anymore, but still it's it's probably two
hours a day of heavy training, and then there's the
aspects of having to eat right and that in itself
is a part time jobs. Eating all the food we
have to eat and then you have to do, depending
on if I'm prepping for a show, all the the
you know, the posing, practice, the um actual stadio everything.

(14:18):
So it's it's amazing the mind that you have to
have yourself in there become absolutely becomes a mental game
towards the end, you know, because you're just pushing your
body to in a physical limit where it doesn't want
to go. And then at the at the end, your
brain starts telling you, hey, like it starts going to
preservation mode and survival mode, like you shouldn't be this lean,
you shouldn't be at this point. So it's wanting to

(14:39):
force you to What do you about that? Probably in
the it's in the single digit probably competing wise three,
you know, I just caniche. And that being said, do
you use cannabis for your workout pre workout post during
what What that has really helped me with is because
of the amount of training, it's stimulus on the nervous

(15:01):
system that I do towards you know, during a prep. Uh,
the cannabis side has helped me relax at night and
be able to shut down and get better sleep, because
sleep is very important for recovery, uh, you know, helping
your muscles grow, just everything that's involved in what I do.
And I've realized, you know, I've done like a couple
of weeks. I was like, ah see if I noticed

(15:21):
a difference without it, and then absolutely my sleep with
the ship. But then you know, getting back on it
on the regular before I go to bed, it actually helps.
It's amazing. I love that you say that, because there's
a lot of people that that are in fitness that
won't touch it. There. I know, CBD is starting to
come into the market. You know, there's uh I've seen
like droteen and stuff like that, which is like you know,
protein mixed with the different products out there. Nothing that

(15:44):
I've seen really excel into a level of like real success,
but I believe it's out there, and and you know,
the world has to understand that recovery, the indocannabinols system,
all that stuff works with it. And and by using
cannabis pally, whether it's from the skin or orally or
how however you use it. It's it's for athletes we've

(16:06):
had time and time again many athletes come on board,
whether the NFL, you know, to baseball basketball stars that
swear by it, and and it's true, you know, a
lot of people don't even know. We didn't know we
had an endocannabinoid system and understanding that we do and
that and for those that don't know what it is
is basically, you have a bunch of hairs inside of

(16:27):
your body that are that are getting lubricated by the
th C and then it allows the inflammation not to
stick or grow or pains or illnesses. And most people
don't know that. But but diving into that and then
and then allowing it to be in in such a
mainstream sport, do you feel that, you know the weightlifting
world is going to pick it up as well. I think.

(16:48):
I think a lot of it has is there. Like
you said, there's a lot of CBD that you see
getting out there in that fitness space. But I think
as th HC based products get more legalized throughout the US,
um you know, because in Texas it's really not legal
that the Delta at stuff is. But as it, you know,
continues to legal legalize, it's going to I think it's

(17:09):
going to change a game for a lot of people. Yeah,
I think so too. I think I mean, you know,
we we think for athletes especially, um, you know, the
recovery time is better, you know, the hangover from the
pills versus the you know, I mean think about if
you have to sit there and take Viking in every
day because you're pain versus cannabis. You got alone to
pull muscle or ligament that just goes out. Plants over pills,

(17:31):
pretty easy to break. Tony was saying, you have a
new product that's going to change the game, talk about
something like that. What what what is it? What are
we going on break right now? No, No, we're riding
this out for a while. We got one break after this.
We got whatever you want, whatever you wanted. I got
another special fucking guest after this. I just want to

(17:51):
make sure I got I'm telling me this one. This
one's got his name is little d Okay, Like is
it like the Okay? Well, well let's get to this
is turning into a different kind of show. Five pm,

(18:11):
open bar, fucking full sample. What do you got going
on there? What's what do you got? Cracking in the Canada.
So it's a it's a plant uh gross stimulant products.
So it's not a fertilizer, it's not a chemical based product.
It is completely hunter percent organic certified from State of
California and Oregon um it's been originally the product was

(18:34):
tested on all kinds of different crops sugarcane, corn, cotton, everything,
and it's that we saw a huge yield increases using
this product. And it's a it's a a four uh
four different products that it's a system that you use um.
It's a nutrient yes, yes, so it's a zomatic enzematic
based plant grows stimulant. But it's the only um enzemetic

(18:57):
base that would be in this market right now. So
with everything that's kind of coming down regulations government wise,
they're cracking down on the amount of chemicals and different
things that can be used on stuff. So something that's
organic is gonna be highly sought after moving forward in
you know, the growth portion of this industry. I'm an
early investor in this nice from the investment Insider club. No,

(19:24):
I'm serious, Like listen, I will tell you that. I mean,
I don't know you know what's your infrastructure is yet
or how you point and rolling it out but I
mean we we obviously know like the largest producers of
all the nutrient companies in the world. They've been on
our show, they're friends of ours, you know. So when
I'm thinking that I could just ramble off two or
three of the biggest guys in the game, Um, in fact,
we'll probably be Um, Big Stephen, Big Mike lets on Halloween,

(19:48):
will probably be you know at this party, you know,
And you know that's uh again talking about the synergies
and just talking about like we didn't want anything, you know,
and just the fucking synergy that you guys bring to
the table that you're doing to human beings and just
the population and everything you do with the with the
the attorneys at law as well. I know so many

(20:09):
people that have been saved from the hashtag that is
shut the fuck up. And you know, I just love
fucking doing good for people. But we talked to you,
and you came and interviewed to us on your show,
and there was a lot of things that were set
on your show that I want to say it on ours,
especially about you, which you know a blue and you

(20:30):
met at a hotel back at the out back at
the bar, and exactly and they hit it up. It
was talking to a lawyer, and then blew ear hustles like,
was that my lawyer? Let me say this story. So,
so I'm sitting across the I come in, and you know,

(20:51):
I was I was having actually kind of a rough,
a rough day that day. But I come in. I'm
just tired, coming from some some show somewhere, and I
just randomly stop. And I normally don't hit that out back.
It's not really buy my house or not much. And
I just pull in and I jumped out, and I
went and sat down at the bar by myself and
just ordered dinner. And I'm sitting there ordering dinner, and

(21:11):
you know, Tony's on the whole other side of the
bar and he's just having a uh, you know, a
dinner himself, and you know, and we're just both eating
and literally two lonely dudes sitting by ourselves, and and
I look up and I'm like, you know, what's up,
like kind of give a noddy. He's just whatever. And then, uh,
you know, he's already think he's into his meal or whatnot.
And I'm ordering a drink and all of a sudden,

(21:33):
he gets a call. He's on the phone. He starts
talking and and I'm listening to the way he articulates
when he you know, he's one of the most articulate
people I know, and most loyal people. And you can't
buy loyalty, and I you know, it's hard to find
people that you know that you can really trust, whether
you're up, down, in between or whatever. And that's that's
what I look for when I put people next to me,

(21:55):
and and I'm sitting there, I'm listening to him and
he's like, yeah, you know, all right, said something. Then
he said something Darren or whatever, and it was like
and then I heard like Kobe and I'm like and
I'm like, no, maybe I'm just tripping. You know, I'm
here by myself. This dude's here. There's no way, you know,
he has the same attorney as I do, you know,
but he did out of the cock super random restaurant.
True story though. So I'm like, oh, dude, like you know,

(22:16):
and he gets off the phone. I'm like, is that
Darren Kobe or something? And he was so and he
looks up. He's like yeah, And I like, he's one
of the best attorneys I've ever met in my life,
you know, And this dude's like, I mean, I don't
know if you've got a chance to meet Kobe, but
I dude, save in my life, dude, And you guys
know this, and I'm sorry to he saved me about
a half a million dollars, so you know, it's like
saving your life, you know, a lot of money when

(22:38):
you when you are trying to kill yourself, which is
where I was, and you have everybody else abandoned you,
but your fucking attorney is the one that saves your life. Man.
I didn't like that with him. Wow, dude, Kobe this

(22:58):
and this guy is very just an amazing, amazing man.
And um, but him and I met Tony and I
met there and and he was like it is and
so we just geeked down and started talking and then
all of a sudden, you know, we're sitting next to
each other, and then we went in for it. We've

(23:19):
been very we've been very close friends, um since then,
and we've been fortunate enough to keep in communication through
those periods. Um. You know, we've watched each other. Life
doesn't happen by accident either, right, Like that's something that
I know we've all connected on because destiny is destiny
and what we've done, and like what we're putting out
into the world and what you guys are doing. Man,

(23:40):
I tell you what. It's just like, nothing is by
accident no more. And all the ship that's happened to
us and everything negative happened to you and you and
you and you and me, it's all by fucking design, man,
And it's all put us into this moment, into this
right now. And I had a gentleman up here come
up to me, man, and he saw like, I'm no
fucking body, and he's like, man, I listened to your

(24:00):
first fucking podcast, No way. How random is that that felt?
Does that feel good? Right? And I know you guys
go through I've never had anybody say that that is
the got to be one of the best feelings. I
paid him to do it. Tony. You know, Tony has
a show called The Insiders, show folks that if you'll

(24:22):
go out there, if you're looking for investments or talk
about investments, and he interviews a lot of great people
and talks about his success is his ups and downs.
I love how transparent you are on the show about
everything you've gone through. And it's just to me That's
what I like about you in that transparency and for
our audience listening. Like I said, we said it on
your show and you interviewed us. But I'll never forget

(24:43):
a story about Tony that I was hosting in events
and it was a fundraiser that I did for children,
and I randomly posted it on social media, like, Hey,
if you're at the Ravine Spectrum, you know I'm hosting
this thing for whatever. I forget exactly what Teddy bears
for whatever. Right, there's a random thing that you know,
all the acts of kindness that we do throughout our lives, right,
So it's one of those things I do. I posted

(25:04):
I'm donating my time my friends whoever want to come come. Well,
guess who showed up? Who? I ironically meant two or
three times. It wasn't like Tony and I were boys
where it's like I hit him up and then I
was like, this dude, Tony shows up to a vent
for a children's fundraiser at the Irvines, but what And
he comes up there and hangs out, and then we

(25:25):
went out to dinner together and hung out, and I
was like, this is one of the reallest cats of
genuine dude. It really made me respect you so much,
just from the aspect of you just being you. I
look at that as that you being you. I was
being me doing what I do, hosted something and you know,
I put it out there to the world. Who show
you're talking about me right now. But you guys do
this ship fucking all the time, you know, and you're

(25:45):
talking about this is our platform. But how you talking
about me? But you guys do this always selflessly. And
that's the thing about charity. It doesn't matter about how
much you give or what you're doing and who you're with.
Just do it. Just fucking do it. You know. It's
what we do. And that's why I think we all
get along up here together, and that's why we do
the things I was telling I was telling you know, Tony,

(26:07):
I don't know if I but you know it includes Steve.
And it's like, you know, for the first five years
of this, I never took a dime from anybody because
I didn't know what I had I and I didn't
want to take a disservant from somebody. I didn't want
to just take you know, trash money and and and
and ship it out and be like, oh, you know,
it sucks for you and build this name of some

(26:28):
person that was just running around being a clown, you know.
So I had to understand what we had, how to
actually create something that worked, and then how to be
able to serve people most importantly, because if you serve
the masses, you can always eat with the classes. And
a lot of people will never get that because, like
you said, their kangaroos. Well, if if a man comes
up with no arms, you better believe he's gonna kick you,

(26:49):
you know. And so that's the same thing as the kangaroo.
It's like, you know, it's you don't see it coming.
Sometimes people try to kick you. But the bottom line
is you have to have integrity and you have to
care about what you do. And that's who Tony is
in my life. Man. Every time I've been around this man,
he's a one percent. I feel confident when you hit
somebody at night, in the middle of the night, four

(27:10):
in the morning and you answer their call because you're
not like, oh, this guy's aware to know there's something
going on, what's up, And then it could be Hey,
whenna I need you to come down, I'd be there.
That's the kind of man he would do for me
and I do the same, So I appreciate you on that, man.
And let's take a break right now, we're gonna do
the third segment. We're gonna come back with you, Tony,
and I can't wait to see who this next guest
is gonna close. I can't wait, and we're gonna do

(27:31):
the high five with all of you guys. It's Cannabis
Talk one oh one, all the way live from C three,
the Counterculture Convention and beautiful Houston, Texas. Will be right
back after this. We'll be right back with Cannabis Talk
one oh one. Welcome back to Cannabis Talk one oh one.

(27:53):
Take a hit, get lit, and don't quit baby, as
we are all the way live in Houston, Texas. It's
Joe Grande and Blue holding it down for you guys
at C three. Mark and Craig Wasserman staying back home
because they're working attorneys. But we are here filling the
effects of Houston, Texas with Callie Effects, Fool and broad Spectrum.

(28:14):
Hemp extracted products contains CBD, CBG and some thirteen plus
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it's funny, you guys. Last night after dinner, I sat
down and talked to the CEO of Kelly Effects and

(28:35):
got a chance to pick his brain about a few things.
As he I was so lucky that he shared with
me some stuff about his company and the research that
they're doing and looking into, and companies like Callie Effects
that are really spending the time, the money and the
love for this plant to really look at research for

(28:56):
cancer patients is ridiculous. So now not only are we
doing stuff with him, but I just take my hat
off to good old Dennis over there, and I tell you,
I like busting his balls all the time just because
he's a friend, exactly exactly. But I really love Dennis
what she showed me yesterday. And for those who don't know,
just look at companies like Kelly Effects, because they care

(29:20):
and they're doing more than meets the eye and more
than you're gonna hear about. And that's why I'm here
sitting here telling you about it because and I believe
that he did not show me this for me to
say this today. He showed me this because this is
what he cares about. And ironically I was talking to
him about my cousin who has cancer, and then he goes,
look what we're doing. So this is the type of

(29:40):
company you want to do. Feel the effects, Kelly Effects.
Once again, thank you brother. That being said, you guys
were here with Tony from the Insider Show and the
body builder himself, Steve Kuklo, who's just the biggest chicken
on the block boy than you know. And then I
hear we got another guest. Please, I don't want to

(30:00):
introduce him because I think Tony, you've already brought two guests.
At Tony, you were surprised us. We started the show
not realizing you're gonna come on, and then you bring
your security guard who I think was a lady at
one point and now she's a big old buff dude.
But now who do you have? Yeah, but listen again,
I appreciate the funk out of you guys, and I
know you guys do so much for me. I want

(30:22):
you to know your boys all kipt the ship a
secret because I wanted to pay it to do this.
You paid to get Yeah, you're a trip. Well thank you.
Well now I got a refund it. But he'll take
it back on other project, were working on merchant account.
Jo's gonna want to note the programming notes and all
this ship and I'm like, tell him, no, he's gonna

(30:45):
kick my ass. I'm like, he's lost thirty pounds, how
can you kick your Hey, I can still kick ass.
But listen, guys, I Uh, I'm gonna introduce you guys
to somebody that has such a fucking dear spot fall.
I'm like, I'm whatever, It's good. We're hanging out. Listen. Uh.
We talked about the dark moments in our lives. There

(31:07):
was a moment in my life where I lost every
fucking thing and I got on a plane and it
almost gives me goose. But I'm talking about it because
I met Steve on that plane. You're kidding, You're private
fucking playing a cabo three years ago. Side note, I digress.
Coincidentally enough, my other guests are gonna be on this

(31:30):
note and this organization and what I got involved in
personal development. This motherfucker that I'm gonna introduce you to
is a little d and big d He's got a daddy. Oh,
he's got a daddy. He's got a daddy, daddy, and
he represents what winning looks like at old times. Mr

(31:51):
Big d you, I'm glad to be here, guys, I'm honored,
I'm privileged and listen, Blue, thank you. Thank you for
getting raw and real with me in our first com versation.
I know you meet I know you meet millions of people,
and you know people like, oh man, I can't wait
to meet you and stuff. But I think the essence
of everything that we've gone through in just the last
few years, this massive change that's happened, when you come

(32:12):
out and say, hey, look, we've never met. I don't
know you from anybody, but I'm gonna tell you some
real ship that's powerful. That's what He's a sucker for.
Dudes with long hair, I bet, yeah. I mean I
try to keep one hunter and we start talking about things.
I want to, you know, share it with how you
feel you know, yeah, I mean, you got choked up.
I'm not gonna share it because that's you know, that's
for you to share. It's your discretion. But let me

(32:33):
tell you something. I can't tell you how much I
appreciate that when when you come out and you share that, well,
we got all these people wondering what it is now
I want Okay, so I'm gonna tell you, Like, here's
the thing. I don't like the bullshit, even though I
have a puppet, Like the puppet introduces me to a
lot of people, so ironic, girl, I don't like the
bullshit for real, I'm not I know bullshit, but like anyway, yeah,
I had to give him the questions. But um, you

(32:54):
know what he had said. What Blue had said was
I was like, hey, man, like, how do you guys
do through the pandemic? And we just started talking about
facing the fact of actually having to, like rock and Rolling,
get to that point in business where you actually have
to lay people off, and how heartbreaking it is because
it's not just fifty three employees. Did you say it
was fifty three employees eloyees I had to lay off.
I wish you could see Blues face when he's telling

(33:15):
me the story, because he starts choking up, and I
started choking on, like funk, I just met this dude
in person, and he's starting to make me cry. But
the impact of that it's not just fifty three people.
It goes fifty three times ten deep because of all
the families at least Right and Blue Listen, man, I
gotta tell you, I've heard that story repeatedly, over and
over and over again for the last three years. And

(33:37):
you know, thank god I met somebody like Tony because
I met guys like you. I've met people that have
been displaced across the board, stress, suicide, everything that you
can imagine. It's already been talked down right in media.
But let me tell you, like the things that you
guys are doing here, the sunshine that you're bringing. Amen,
you're in alignment. You guys are changing lives every week.

(33:59):
So God bless you and your families, and thank you
for sharing that. Listen, that's a that's a that's a
cliff notes version. But yeah, I can't Big D. And
for those who can't see, they are listening on the
podcast world. He actually has a little puppet in his hand.
In hand, not a little puppet. Actually, it's about half
his side. It's almost the size of Tony, which is
fucking weird. TONI just tolder than the puppet. But you

(34:22):
know what I mean this, You have a puppet in
your hand. So that being said, I assume that's a
little D. Big D. Yes. Uh So my name is
Guilt and I identify as your puppet and human nice human.
Oh listen, just because I mean I feel the effects. Like,
by the way, it's just fold disclosure. I'm high right now.

(34:43):
I'm so fucking high because I had I had a
it was like a lick nish blunt or something like that.
I think we're Blair sitting out there. Blair sitting out there.
He can't do Yeah, yeah, pop king shit me like
a blunt. And he said, hey, man, listen, dog, this
just COVID free. I didn't have to lick it. You
need to just try it out. And yeah, that's crazy,

(35:06):
but anyway, seeching on it to be here, Jan big Joe,
thanks for having me. Where were you born? At um
in a puppet meal in San Francisco. Are you originally
from the Bay Area? Yeah, I am Ama Area represend
like born and raised in the eight Yeah yeah part
the Felt part, like the Felt District. Shall come out
of just Felt District. It felt in San Francisco. Yes, yes,

(35:30):
it was out of the local puppet meal. You've probably
you've probably seen it town around the area. It's so funny,
little because I'm originally from the Bay Area too, and
I used to do a show called the Doghouse out
there on Wall nine four nine, Oh yeah, oh my god,
like Big Boy Neighborhood, you know from the Beta l A.
I've been rocking mix like you know how we do

(35:52):
so so I heard you beat back in early show.
I was wondering if you want to do like a
beat back challenge to a quick like like puppet Verse's man,
if we can get it on well, like they say,
ladies go first? Would that be me or you pupp
But I'll just like to give you the honors if
you'd like to go first. I don't know. I heard
you lost some weight, so you're a little waify right
now you're called you know, I'm okay to go first.

(36:14):
If you'd like me to go first, I'm gonna make
it your scale first. Well, ladies and gentlemen, stepping to
the mic from Los Angeles, California, It's Joe Grande going
against little d you on a beat box competition. Count
me in one two, one two, three four deep. They

(36:43):
don't I'm Joe grand bitch, okay, yeah right right, okay, alright, cool,
that's cool, Okay, that's okay, al right, okay, And when
you battle, you know I had to be a little offensive.
Could he battling? You know what I'm saying. Normally I
don't attack anybody, actually do all the time. But but
he's only only when he loves you. Listen, Joel, Remember

(37:03):
you can't hurt me because I got a grown man's
hand up my ass right now. So I mean, you
gotta you gotta penetrate me, Little D. That makes two
of us fantasaid, Okay, here we go watching me spit here,
count me in. You're you guys ready three to one?
Speak check? So you got little D. Yeah, man, I'm good.

(37:30):
I'm high funk right now. Thanks you play. I gotta
give you that. Though, I gotta give me that. That
was hard. I didn't expect you to come so correct.
I almost started to have funny to be silly with it.
But you really got some skills there, kid. Thank you all.
I'm gonna keep practicing and thanks you for the example.
And it's just noted to be here. And I know

(37:51):
when you're HEARDing beatboxing earlier, like okay, I gotta get
on the micro skill. It was funny because during break
we actually did some beatbox down here, just having fun
like we do the one I would just start rapping
during the show or whatever we're doing out here at
these expos It already where we're at for that matter.
And I'm surprised you were out here. I don't know
you're on the audience. Thank you? And Mr Little D?
What are you some of your favorite things you'd like

(38:11):
to do as a puppet in this cannabis world? Are
you just in the normal? Little D? Actually know? Somebody
asshole holding me right now. It will not let me
smoke because he is I'm not anti flammable retired. Your
eyes look like you're high, though. I mean, I am
fucking Blair over at Popkins. I'm not trying to drop

(38:33):
his name, but fucking Blair and it's lit blunt like ship.
I wish that it was around in the nineties. Little
do you know Blair looks like Little D? Who shad
you know? No? No, no, no, wait wait wait wait
wait I got it. Kevin Hart, doesn't he look like
he's heart big time? He's a hands your motherfucker. That's
all I'm gonna say. You know, it's his big brother.
That's that's Kevin Hart's older brother. No, this can't it

(38:55):
is no good front of us we brought him with us. Yeah,
yeahs crop Kings thing, Kevin King's crop for Real Blair's
series Real Talk. He no, I thought he was just
a handsome black man. But come on the show, come

(39:18):
over here, come over here and hit this is this
is not only that, the crazy part is one time
we had Blair on the show, but the coldest part, Blaire,
thank you for coming to do the show with us
when we had to do it from the office studio
around the round table because we didn't have this full
table set up. So we've never given you your due

(39:38):
diligence behind the show. Yeah. So as I looked at you,
I'm like, we never had him on the real show set. Yeah.
Could I get say something from my money standpoint, when
you think of owning a business or starting a fucking business.
I had one conversation with this gentleman. I said, well, fuck,
who would have thought? He goes I did you know

(39:58):
what I'm saying, like, yeah, all you motherfucker. Then you
saw your friends like that every time. And he invented it.
He got patents and ship provisionals. That's power, that's work.
This is real quick and this is what I say
that is and I, and I suggested. Everybody here uses

(40:21):
it and we lose it as kids because our parents
and our family and our friends tell us. And it's
your imagination. You know, the moment you lose your imagination,
you have no more existence. You're no longer going to succeed.
You're going to continue to do the same thing. It's routine.
Use your imagination and be unrealistic, Be very unrealistic, because

(40:41):
wealthy people were very fucking unrealistic. We have unrested cars,
life's wife's houses, and we buy stupid ship and everybody
else thinks you're crazy. Be unrealistic, you know what I'm saying,
and create something like that that he's Kevin Hart's big brother.
You gotta be tell us, tell us about what you
how you lick it and stick it? Well, Uh, you're

(41:04):
not licking in the model of the company's quit licking around. Uh,
like you said, seeing all the homies rolling blood, spitting
all over that ship, killing my high before we even
get to light it. So I had to put it
into that ship. So I did. So what what? What?
What what do you do? How do you do it?
You feel peel and steal? This is a FDA approved
gum arabic steal. I took the concept from the envelope

(41:27):
very very basic. I wouldn't have the glue reformulated, had
an FDA approved and patent and applied it to the
blunt wraps. Hello, let's get that. And it sounds so
and that's it and that's simple, but it's really not.
But it is. And it takes a dedication. And it's like,
you know what what everyone is doing up here. I mean,
even with you big Dan, little de your dedication for

(41:50):
keeping that dummy on your lap, just like how Steve
has that dummy on his and everybody else. It's like
everybody up here, it's your guys, hard work that really
pays off. I mean when you look at how hard
Steve you gotta work out to be consistent and everything
you do, it's the same kind of concept no matter
what you do and in life, and and for our

(42:11):
listeners that are out there listening to pay attention, that's
what we want to hear about and see about and
understand the ups and downs of life. Tony was so
vulnerable to express how he's lost everything. Tony has been
so vulnerable on the Insider Show that I really want
you guys to go find the podcast, The Insider Show,
because he gets very vulnerable on there and does that.
And and I want you guys to go follow Steve

(42:33):
Purge because he's a public speaker and he does all
these great things and you can see by his just
some quick images is on on his Instagram. So these
people up here in the dedication to getting like you said,
how do you figure out that with a blood wrapper? Everybody?
Tony's licked the fucking blunt everyone, and if not everyone
that's listening, you've seen somebody do it, and you figured

(42:53):
out a way to go do it, and you gotta
puppet on your hand. It's just I take my hat
off to you guys, because this is what America's about,
and this is what the space is about. It's doing
and making ship happen. And this is what C three
is about. It's the counter culture Convention. We're a bunch
of minorities up here, a mixture of folks doing what

(43:13):
we do in honor of the culture. You know what
I mean. You've got Uctopia next to us that does
paintings and things like that, which we're gonna talk to
them later on tomorrow and figured out their background out
of Miami. But there's just so many great things that
are at these type of conventions and wonderful people to meet. Ironically,
Tony's our friend who then brings his other friends. Now

(43:33):
we're all friends. So thank you guys for coming to
see three counterculture Convention. Is there anything else from missing
that we want to promote for you guys? And then
are out there, Big d Little d anything that you
want to share you guys performing anywhere? Are you doing anything?
Do you you have a social media for the dummy
and for yourself? You guys, you know Danny is one
of the most humble fuckers out there. Even though the

(43:55):
dummy has one end them uppet has one. It's dummy
right here is know dummy exactly, Little dummy dummy. But
I don't know about this guy. Go ahead, No, it's fun. No,
I think Little D's highest fun. He's still high. Thank you.
I'm gonna say thank you, thank you, thank you. How
much I wish him good ship by the way, Crape alright,

(44:17):
you know I think that I think the final message
and again I can't say enough like blue, like that's
a huge impact, Like when you came walking in a
room and meet a perfect stranger and you get to
the real talk. That's what's important. The one thing I'll
tell you, like I have nothing to promote. My name
is Danny Galvez number two. You can find me on Instagram.
But the only thing I woulday if you want to connect, like,
let's connect there. It's a deep dive. We all do

(44:38):
a lot of different things. The number audio book author,
he's a motherfucker. He's my hype man. He traveled like
this motherfucker is somebody. He's so humble. Bro, he's probably
audio booked some of the like O are one of
our good friends. Burton Hughes, number one best selling author.
He audio books this ship. But he doesn't talk. You
know what I'm saying, Like you almost have a tell

(45:00):
him to. I love people because we got a lot
of people to help and we ain't done. That's not
just a job for one person. Yeah, man, it's not
just a job for one person. Does the network no
true story? Like it's an apex. Like you should be
able to take whatever you've got going on in your community.
It doesn't matter for you Houston, if you're in l A,
if you're in Boston, if you're up Wisconsin, it doesn't matter.
You can be a good human being wherever you are.

(45:22):
That's right, with no agenda. That's help help somebody. We
agree good take your world's ugly, just do good. Take
care of your Speaking of ugly, Blair, is there anything
else that you want to talk about? Joe is on
fire tonight. Sorry before we come nine pm, it's only
six it is my stage. Here we go. I love,

(45:45):
I love all you guys, truly value the relationships I've
had to gain it this thank you, bro. We love
you to appreciate. But no, we love and respect the
hell that you too though. That's care. And what about you, Steve?
Anything else you want to put time before? Tony, I
haven't got the ancestry back yet. Anything else you want
to flux? Steve? Yeah, I know the products that we

(46:06):
talked about, the Catalyst Green it's called we're gonna be
rolling that out soon. So excited and to appreciate you
guys having me up and then the booty cakes that
we actually close that down. But Steve, are you doing?
Did I see something on your I G page? Workouts
and stuff too? I did say cut my own bodybuilding
shows that we promote around They got three what don't
you like an Olympian And to them, yeah, well he's

(46:27):
a five time i f BB champion. So once again
Cucklow classics is that? But look at him on on
Instagram at Steve Cucklow that's Ku c l o. And
if you don't know how to spell Steve, I'm sorry, Stev.
How do you spell that again? St Tony? Once again,

(46:47):
Tony the Insider Show. We've gosh you. You know how
much we love you and respect you. Anything else that
you want to promote on our platform that we can
tell everybody about the Insider Investment Club or anything else
that you want to really get out there or you
have the time right now. I just love the ship
out of eat motherfucker, and I love you too. You
gotta just be good people, be nice to other people.
That's it. That's all I got. You are who you are,

(47:07):
who you walk with guys. So check this out, guys.
Uh really, if I know, there's a bunch of beautiful
people here, and uh, I just like you know, to
give you guys a rout of flaws from hanging out
with us and the Counterculture Convention, And thank you guys
so much, UM and our staff and in Texas Screens
and Crop Kings, Callyfs connector all these love the Texas

(47:29):
Grief folks. You guys, I don't know if you know
the man I got. I apologize for coming back in.
But every single person from you to you to We'll
not pitt but you know everybody, everybody man like you guys.
You know and it tells me somebody about the organization
when you talk to the staff and you see the
value that you've done and the way that they look like,

(47:50):
I mean, fuck, thank you. And you know what, we agree.
We agree one because we realize what we have and
we know that, like I've said it on another show,
we wouldn't be able to do all this without them. All.
Thank you. We love them just as much as you're
recognizing them. We greatly appreciate them. Well, there it is,
Guys's Cannabis Talk one. Don't want to remember this. If
no one else loves you, we do and you're all fired.

(48:15):
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