Jakob Nowell Lead Singer of JAKOBS CASTLE.

Jakob is the son of Bradley Nowell the former lead singer of Sublime. Catch his next show at A TRIP TO GARDEN GROVE on St. Patrick’s Day March 17th at The GARDEN AMP presented by Big Bag Entertainment. Get your tickets at www.gardenamp.com

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website Lorente Oils dot com. Now, this guest on the
show today got a chance to meet him outside and
talk for a second. But since two thousand and thirteen, Jacob, no, right,
Did I get that right? Jacob no has made a
name for himself, elevating through their ranks and playing his dues,
paying his dudes, you guys within the southern California musical community.

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He made Noise with his former band called Law for
many years, but now he's making his rounds and is
currently the singer of his new band, Jacob's Castle. Is
that the new one right there? Jacob's Castle the sound
of two worlds colliding in perfect union. Now the Castle
aims to connect the sounds of California's pass with this

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fresh mystery of the internet underground culture. As of twenty
twenty three, Jacob's Castle has officially been singing to been signed,
actually to a record label. Congratulations as he just got signed?
As it epetic or what is it? What can I
talk about? Yeah? Okay, well he signed. You haven't signed anything.

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I'll just knock on wood just in case anything happens.
I would bring a block of wood with me, all right.
It's with Epithath, so dope that you fucking pulled out of.
You never know when you're gonna need to knock on wood, man,
Epithath Okay records, that's the new one right there, new
music to his label is coming months along with numerous
tours in the works coming around, so make sure you
check that out and be sure to catch his next

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performance at a trip to Garden Grove on Saint Patrick's
Day at the Garden Amp You guys, presented by Big
Bang Entertainment. Shout out to our guy, of course, our
pal the Owl aka Mark Garnitas, Mark Carnes, Big big, big,
big bag, big bag, big Bag Entertainment. My bag my

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head just reads Big Bang, my bad, Big Bag Entertainment
is doing this out there. My buddy Mark Carnes is
doing a great event out there, so shout out to him, folks.
And if you haven't seen the lineup, make sure you
check it out. Ticketweb dot com as a spot where
you can get it and search a trip to Garden
Grove and grab tickets to see legendary ogs from the

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LBC like Long Beach, Dub All Stars, Capital I, Jacob's
Castle and many more. And here to tell us about
himself and his journey here at the Cannabis Talk one
one campus. Give it up for our guy Jacob in
the building. Yeah what a weed. So Jacob, you're you
have this musical journey And for those who don't know
off the top, I mean, his father was the legendary

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singer of Sublime, and you were a young boy when
he passed away, so it was like eleven months old,
if I'm not mistaken. Is that what I read? That's right? Yeah,
I was born in ninety five. I think he passed
in ninety six. Yeah, so you know, it's it's in
the genes, the music, the singing, the entertaining. You never
got a chance to be able to be taught by
your father, but it's just kind of cool that you
have these genes that are able to, you know, be

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another artist like him, which is kind of funny and
weird and all of the above, right, Yeah, Yeah, it's
funny too because like I got this like red kind
of orange beard and he didn't, So I thought, I
think it'd be a trip if it my dad turned
out to be like the Milkman or something. And then
I'll make like an album cover that has like a
DNA test and it says like negative on it, and
then it'll trip everyone out, or who's the ginger? The

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ginger come from Sublime and then just like watch all
the comments be like what he's not really the dude,
Oh my god, that is so funny. So now you know, yeah,
I mean according to my family in the weast saying
and stuff, there's all this cool little genetic stuff, and
I do feel really lucky and blessed to be a
part of something so big like this that has touched
so many amazing people's lives. It's yeah, it's got to
be interesting that, you know, when you have a dad

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that's done something like that, because my dad was nothing
like that. And you know, we always can compare people
and oh this, oh that, but yet you never want
to compare that. Well, at least I had my dad
when you never had your dad, you know what I mean.
You only had him when you were a baby, and
you don't have any memories of them. So it's not like, oh,
look at you. You have all this to go off of,
and you've just took a path which is even stranger

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and kind of cool. That is similar like choosing to
be a musician. Yeah, totally. Man, It's been one of
those things where there's always these pros and cons to
anybody's situation. Really, But because I have so much gratitude
and appreciation for all the fans out there, but every
now and again. It's I play a kind of funny
when I'm at shows, Like sometimes as fans, I'll come
up with crying. They'll be like, man, I wish I

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could have met your dad. And I'll be like, hey,
me too, bro, And they were like, oh no, I
didn't mean it like that. I'm like, yeah, I get
him a big hug and I love him. So I
always come up and said, how to me at shows.
I appreciate that and show love I'm sure for Sublime
and all that, and show love for your dad because
there's a lot of people that loved him and oh yeah,
a lot of taken away, but you can normalize it
and make something funny about it because that's life. That's life,

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and I think that's what I try to like, I
don't know present in my music and my performance something
that I think we can all relate relate with. I
think we were talking about that a little before the show.
But we've all had lost loved ones and we all
look back and wish we could have done things differently.
But the right here, the right now, you know, the
mixing of the old and the new, and when we're
headed towards in the future, that's the stuff that really
excites me that I want to capture and focus on

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in my music. And that being said, where are you from? Exactly?
Are you born and raised in Long Beach as well?
I was born in Long Beach lived there for a
little bit when as a kid my mom moved to
me and my mom would to Hawaii actually when I
was like three or four. So I grew up there
for about a year or two and then San Diego
for most of my adolescents, I would say, from like
five to seventeen, San Diego, and then I dropped out

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of school, moved to Long Beach at seventeen, and the
rest is history. I haven't live in Long Beach. A
lot of family there, a lot of and the history
and just you know, it just feels like whenever I'm
in Long Beach, I feel safe, you know really, Yeah,
that feels like the house of my father for sure.
And does it feel like when you're in Long Beach?
Is it becomes something spiritual? Is it emotional? Is it internal?

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Because of all places that you could have moved back
to to go to a place Long Beach where your dad,
the bland sublime comes from that genetic is the history
is there, Oh yeah, all the above one. There's a
definite connection and a sort of pulse that I can feel,
you know, and it just everything that they did was
such an interesting cool like, you know, It's one of

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those things with me growing up. I feel like, you know,
if you grow up in your dad whatever owned a
car dealership, you go work with the car dealership. Like
always knew I was going to probably go into music,
but I think there's this element when you're young of
kind rebelling against it, wanting to be so hard doing
your own thing, And then you mature a little bit,
hopefully some people do, and you start to realize, you know,
the stuff I was born into it's really fucking cool.
Can I say they? Okay, I've been in trouble with

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that before on shows, so anyway, Yeah, what I'm trying
to say is that I've come to the realization how
cool this scene is and how many new and upcoming musicians,
maybe not even related to our reggae rock scene, that
have been inspired and influenced by the skunk record scene.
And it just makes me so happy that I get
to play a role in that whatsoever. And I hope
I get to facilitate and all the different armies from

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all the different scenes, and so cal can exist under
one tent, and that tent will say Jacob's Castle. And
where did you get that love? Like when did it form?
Because if I'm not mistaken by hearing your dialogue, at
one point of your life, were you rebellion against it?
Like no, I'm not going to do that, I don't
want to do that. I want to be a baseball player,
I want to be or whatever. Yeah, there was a

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long time. Like with my first project, we tried to
go so different than what the scene was, Like we
wanted to play like heavier music, and it wasn't always
a concerted effort, like we played the music we loved
at the time, but it also sort of wasn't genuine.
Like I think there's two extremes. One extreme would be
me doing something totally different than what Sublime did, and
the other extreme is just me jumping up and trying

(08:16):
to rejoin Sublime, which I also don't think would be
as sick as people think it would be. Like maybe
for one or two sets or something like that, that's cool,
But I want to be right in the middle where
I'm doing something that's genuine to me, but also honoring
the past, and that's the only way I think you
can move into the future. That's gonna be a compromise
that makes it something cool for everybody to appreciate. How
does your mom and how does she deal with it?

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When you were like, Mom, I think I want to
get into music. Oh, it was always tough with my mom.
She left me at at the supermarket one time when
I was like six, and I couldn't find her, and
then she came back. She says, that doesn't happen. She'll
probably see this, but like I remember being at that
vons bro I was scared. But no, she she was
home already. Gross, she was away. Where are you? Yeah,

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she's like, oh, should I forgot something? I knew I
forgot I knew I forgot oranges and what else? Yeah,
it was the eggs and the oh yeah, the kid.
But no, she was really happy. She's always been supportive
of me doing Really, it wasn't like, oh, no, I
don't want you doing music. This is gonna lead you
down a bad path. No, No, she really And um
and the man who raised me, my father, my stepdad,
Keith homes Kiki both my parents, Like you know, there

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was all sorts of craziness growing up, but the good
times I remember was just that they had support for
what I want to do creatively. That that can never
not be said, and I think that's something not a
lot of people get. I would write a song on
acoustic guitar, and as a teenager, I was a weed show, right,
I'd be baked out of my mind. I'd be like,
I just wrote the coolest song in the world, and
I come outside of the backyard. There's always having a
big kickback every single day, and then everyone would just

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get quiet and let me play the song for them,
and they'd all just be so appreciative, and they'd just
tell me all this cool stuff that would happen that
they thought would happen in the future, and I was like, man,
there's no way that's gonna happen like that, but it's
kind of happenings happening after ten years. They say it
takes ten years in the entertain right, and it's been
about ten since I've been playing show seventeen to twenty
seven now. And so you started with your first band,

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how did that form? Yeah, So Law actually started when
I was still in San Diego. I grew up Pacific
Beach with my parents Kiki and Troy and um I.
My best friend in the world at the time when
I was a kid is my friend Dakota Etridge, and
we went to two different schools. Name by the way,
yeah I know it sounds great, right, Yeah, it's a
great name. Oh yeah, I like your name. But yeah, Well,

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we grew up in h San Diego and there is
a street in Pacific Beach and he's been there. There's
a Law Street, right, We'd always passed by it, and
it reminded him one day. He's like, oh, yeah, my school,
we have this joke that we're part of this like
fake game called law to be like, Bro, you don't
know about law, well, then you don't need to know him.
I was like, what's LAW and he's like, it stands
for long ass Wings. It was like a total joke,

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and I was like, dude, that should be the band
name of we ever start a band. He's like, nah, dude,
it's like a joke. I don't want to that's that's ridiculous.
But it's just stuck in our heads and we were
drawn in our binders and make stickers and stuff, and
when we moved up to Long Beach and started a band,
it just kind of stuck. And that project ended up
having so many different member shifts and different changes and sounds.
And really what that was is the last bit of

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my adolescent years, really trying to learn and figure out
how to be an entertainer and how to be a
musician and be in the industry. And when that band
broke apart a year or two ago, as when I
started building the idea for Jacob's Castle, and where did
this idea come from? We're gonna get all that and more.
We're also hearing sing a little bit, and let's take
a break, and we're gonna come back and hear the
story about Jacob's Castle. It's Cannabis Talk one oh one.

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Affects dot com. We are sitting here hearing the great
stories Jacob, and I love it. I love how open
you are and willing to be so vulnerable with your
stories and hearing this. But how did it now Jacob's
Castle come doing? What is Jacob's Castle? Yeah, Jacob's Castle

(12:16):
is sort of the culmination of everything in my childhood
and adulthood. It in the simple terms. My new band,
you know, we make Music, just recorded about thirteen tracks
the label and we're about to release our first single
coming up very soon. It's it's called close Enough to
double sided single. Close Enough in Motel Radio. Got this
really sick music video that we shot for it, which

(12:37):
was actually the first time me and my band makes
jamming like ever. And then we put like all this
cool AI stuff. I had to download this crazy coding
and hosting this little server on my compute. It was insane.
And then Roxy's sitting over there, my tour manager, she
edited the video for me and it came out what Rocks.
So I'm really excited to share that with the people.
And I think the kind of goal that I have

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is to take all of that Skunk Records scene with
Sublime in the nineties and all of that excitement and
all the different genres they fuse and try to merge
that with the modern day scene that I see happening
in Southern California culture, all of these new bands that
aren't even necessarily reggae rock, you know, hip hop and
hyperpop and underground and emotion, you know, hip hop, and

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and really try to merge the beach culture with the
internet culture. You know, Pass meets new pretty and gritty.
Like to me, it makes sense in my head, and
I hope that once people hear the music and see
the visuals, they'll kind of understand that I'm hoping to
sort of usher in a new age for So, are
we able to play a song for people here on
this podcast? You have an MP three that we can

(13:39):
give that to Goldie to play here all. I mean,
no music's out yet, but the singles about to drop.
I guess we could play close enough. I mean, can
we play one of those? Can we? You have it
on MP three already? Yeah, I can pull it up
right now. Yeah, let's get you can pull it up.
Give everybody a little sample of what it plays like.
Just play on the microphone, the microphone real quick. Let's
do it. Yeah, give it up your sound, give it
no sound. Here's y'all are about to hear the very

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very this is. I mean, this is how cool it
can be. It's playing it from his bone, this old sea.
Get that first original uncut, that's what I love. I
like that it's even mastered. Oh see, okay, I'll play
you a little bit. Tell me when to stop. Got
simp bass in there, buzzy guitars. It's a little like

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vinyl DJ scratches in the background. Call it try so
stony too, yeah, try that's my people trying to get

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one fuck, trying to get good berth close all right.
He's a pre quorus. I can't even see shine. And

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the scent a gangster wine. That's the hook, and then
like after the second hook, it does just like wait wait,
it goes into the I just want to show you
the solo on the scent. That's the hyperpop element, that grindy,

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buzzy synth. Yeah, so that's dude. You heard it here first.
You know. It's such a good sound. It's everything you
were describing. It was well described with thank you, all
the different genres, and you're right when it came in
with that, dude, it took me back to, like, you know,

(16:20):
just like that old hip hop sound on your that
makes me so happy, dude. Yeah, it's like I call it,
it's beach music, but it merges the culture that I
grew up with, which is the Internet stuff all that
that weird ironic subculture. Like we have faster songs and
more like nightcore kind of stuff, some like jungle breakbeat
type of stuff as well, and uh, but all it's
all glued together with that, like just California Skunk Records

(16:43):
kind of beachiness. It's all in there. So thirteen songs
and I can't wait for people. Are you all of them? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,
it's me vocally. I made them all with my producer,
John Joseph. He's a really dope cat, just one of
the most talented producer engineers I've ever met. Like basically
I could just say, hey, here is the sound I
want that I have in my head, here's some sound references,

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and he's like, bro, I got you, and he'll get
it like in a second. And it's just him and
me on all the instruments and him coaching me through
some vocal ideas he has in his head. A lot
of these that song was a co write that he
and I wrote together, actually, and it just sort of
we did that last year and it just sort of
all grew from there. Yeah, So it was And it
does cannabis play a big part in your creation? Are
you guys hitting there, ripping and just getting creative? You know?

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Not in this project. But I grew up in a
household that I mean, since I was twelve years old,
we were a weed growing family. Like we had a
one hundred plant grows set up upstairs. I grew up
changing tubes and changing all the nutrients and stuff and
like freaking out when the spider mites came in, like,
oh my god, what are we gonna do that we
lost the whole crop, you know. And so I smoked
weed for for ten years of my life and then

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I took a long break, and when I started smoking again,
it just didn't work the same. I hate weed was
like my like my first love, you know, And when
it stopped working the same way, it was tragic. It
was like I had to grow up a little bit.
It sucks. So my advice he was, never take a break.
Never take any tea breaks. You could take like an
hour long break, maybe but don't ever stop, man, otherwise
you'll end up like me. It's funny because I haven't

(18:08):
smoked weed in twenty four plus years. Yea, yeah, you
know what I mean. It's like I use products, but
and I love I'm a huge advocate, Like between you
and me. Don't tell anybody I told you, But I
think everything on this God's green Earth should be legal
substance wise, you know. I mean, I think there should
be education about harm reduction and funds put into that
to help people with their lives. But people exploring their

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bodies and their consciousness and ways that is just natural
and ancient, and especially with weed, with how much it
helped me out through my years and my adolescence and
how much inspiration it did give me when first learning
to play music. Oh bro, you know you got it.
You got part of the foundation. It's part of the foundation. Yeah,
And it helps some people get creative and then to
get it helps people get real, you know, not creative.

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So yeah, everything balance right, and try and see what
it does do for you everything. This first song right there,
did you say you made a video to that one
already too? Is that the one jump a video for? Yep?
We have subscribed me and Rocks. As soon as we
go back home, we're gonna put the finishing touches on
the video. And the video's actually two songs, the double
sided singles you'll get close enough, and then the second
half of the singles a song called Motel Radio. And

(19:12):
this is a song at the hotel radio. What's that?
Just sounds cool. I'm so happy asked takes me back
because it like makes me think of motel like it's holiday.
If Yo grow starts acting up, then you take her frame.
Come on now, dog up o school like that. I
love him, man, I go back to the hotel. Who
was back to the hotel that was in too Deep? Yes,

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I'm in too deep out of Ballejo, Oh my good, Yes, yeah,
I've shout out my stuff techielms man. He I grew
up with all that stuff, man, like huge inspiration and
motel Radio. So when I first met rock Sand actually
out of motel well yeah technically, but it was like,
this is like the first Jacob's Castle thing we ever
really did. In my opinion, it was last year June

(19:56):
sixth um we got asked to open up at Fiddlers
on the for three to eleven, slightly Stupid and stick Figure.
It was amazing. And this when I was still figuring
everything out. I had just come up with the name,
and she hopped on as to her manager with her
friend Zane van der Voort from Strange Case, and he
played guitar with me. Hayden Hayden Hansen from a Tunnel
Vision played and our buddy Daryl Brown too, and we

(20:18):
all just gotten a van, drove like fifteen hours through
the night, made it as far as Grand Junction, Colorado,
and we stayed in this little motel six and while
we were driving, we just started making a song together.
Like Hayden had garage band open on his iPad and
we're like, bro, plug that in right now. Darryl's driving
the fucking van and he's like, bro, you don't know
how to program drums, give me that, like the car swervin.
It's like four am. And we finally get to the

(20:40):
motel and we had this crazy, creepy, haunted house type
of experience there and it's all part of the song now.
And so I made this cool kind of like hyperpop
meets you know, dub ska kind of jam. I love
your descriptions of everything that you described in a thanks man.
I just can't wait to hear your album and get
more of what you're all about in this new projects.

(21:00):
So excited to show people. Man, what I really want
to do too, is that you played that is? I
want you to give us just a little acapella verse
of the song? Yeah, what what's the one that you
could rip that? He's like, okay, this is my new one?
Or is it something? Yeah? I mean I just show
you close enough, I can I could sing a little
bit of Motel Radio. Please, let's get sample of that.
The hook is really cool. It's like me, me, me,

(21:21):
me me, that'd be great if you fuck rips and
that's it. He's like, this is it? Yeah? I can't
you imagine? Um? The hook's like thought, I heard a
ghost in the Motel radio. Thought I heard a ghost
and she was singing my favorite song. And I keep

(21:44):
on tripping and keep bun tripping. Song stuck in my head.
I keep on tripping and keep bunch ripping. The ghost
is in my bed, keep bunch tripping, keep bund tripping.
The sun stuck in my head head, I keep on tripping,

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keep on tripping. This ghosts inside my bed. I thought
I heard uh heard to ghost in the motel radio.
Thought I heard a ghost and she was singing my
favorites up something like that, Let's go to Jacob's Castle

(22:29):
one thousand years motel radio coming soon, Jacob. And not
only that, but like, how many times have we been
in a mote like you tube me to a motel
that I was at where you're like, shit, the static,
You're like, what's there's a fucking ghost? Yeah, you hear
the static and those old school fucking things they had,
and it's like, is it that or is it because
I've been up for three days trap for four days
straight partying like that when you're on tour. When you're

(22:52):
on tour like that, you don't know what's what's kind
And the whole songs like that too, like the in
the verses, the main character he's like something's been keeping
me awake and it's like the ghost haunting him or
like is it just going crazy? Like yeah, all through
personal experiences and that's when you're doing that like that.
I mean what other songs like that is there are
other things that you have on your album that are

(23:12):
personal songs and experiences like this, Oh yeah, all of them. Man.
In fact, like I thought it'd be really interesting because
when we were talking about drawing upon personal experiences and
the real like the heart of human life. I wish
we was recorded. That was actually a very touching conversation.
Market we had outside before the show. We did a
real good like so we just met each other. Yeah, yeah,

(23:34):
I did pull a mark. Well, yeah, we show it
was but it was like it was just more appropriate
to be authentic and organic and real with each other
out there and now we could chop it up like
buddies in here, because yeah, we're a way to do it. Yeah. Man,
what was the first time you? Usually I like to
stay away from our fuckers, but that was just personal
and great. Sometimes it just hits naturally, and that's what
I was telling you. I want that to show through
and the songs I write. So I have this one

(23:55):
song that actually is a little bit about like of
my relationship with my father and the fans and getting
put into a situation and like still being grateful for it,
but like constantly having everything you do in your life
colorized by one singular experience or or a person in
my in my case, and like it isn't bad or good.
It just sort of is what it is. And a

(24:16):
song is called It's Not Me, It's You. It's a
brand new song we just cut. It's still like in
rough mixed form, but it's got me singing all like
falsetto in the hook, and then we got these like
ska trumpets coming in and like that's great. Are you
gonna are not? Are you gonna do you watch like
old stuff of your dad. What's really funny is in
that song we sample, um, we sample this old thing.

(24:38):
Maybe I'll have to get the sample cleared, but we did.
We were just feeling it in the studio, like it's
just me and my producer John joe'sphere, like that'd be sick.
So there's this there's this famous clip of him performing
with his buddy Gwen Stefani at the ninety five Weenie Roast,
and I don't know if anybody's seen this one, but
he calls Gwen up on stage and she's like, Bradley,
he looks so cute, and he goes, I'm prosperous and

(24:59):
hits a big belly like and so we sampled just that,
like you look, Bradley, You're so cute and he's like,
I'm prosperous and we like trip it out and chop
it up and stuff. Oh they got to clear that
for you. I mean, shit like that is like, come on,
it's just a cool little reference to something like that.
And uh yeah, man, I love mixing like it's just
I want to get real with it. I don't want

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to shy away from the comparison because it's gonna happen naturally.
I lean into it, but still do my own thing.
I think that's the only way we can grow and
really come into our own well. I think you have
your lane because, like I told you earlier, for those
that are listening in the office, it was great to
have you come in, but not only so great, like
Jennifer that works with us as a huge fan and going,
oh my god, Joe, and she's literally texting me as

(25:40):
she's right there. She might as will come on the
mic if you want to, Jennifer. You want to get
on Jennifer, come and join us. If you want to
ask him a question, Please feel free to come the
game though, because you're a real fan, Jennifer. If you
really want to come, feel free to sit down and
talk to him. Um, but she was like saying, how
this and that, and then Daniel was showing me things
about you and explaining these about Daniel. Eve called me
earlier this morning, at like eight thirty in the morning,

(26:03):
if I'm not mistaken. It was early and we were
talking about you and you're a third show that we
were talking about, like you what I mean, And he
was talking about you first the third show that we're
doing today. You gotta understand who this dude is. You
gotta understanding his music, Joe, you'd love it, blah blah
blah blah. And then Jennifer from yesterday was hyping you up.
And my point to all this his dude, you've created

(26:24):
your lane. See you know what I mean that this
is your lane that they didn't like. Oh he sells
just like his dad. I never heard that once. I
didn't hear himself, just like Sublime, I didn't hear that once.
You know what I mean. It was like, dude, his
music's dope, his style is dope, He's very cool, he
seems amazing, and everybody was just praising you. So you've
really created a lane for yourself and an avenue where

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it's like this guy is on his way to becoming
a fucking real rock star. Knock on wood, knock on wood.
We're gonna come baf heard to talk some more with
this guy right here, and if you want to see
him live on stage out here in Orange County, make
sure you get your tickets to it, because it's gonna
be an amazing event, folks, brought to you by Big

(27:05):
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I want to thank everybody around here for helping us
do what we do so much in Diego it's your
eyes that just masmerize me. So those eyes. Thank you

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so much to your mother and father. Holdeay, Marcus Mondo,
by Dog You, Teddy, Daniel Diego, Jessica camp Solar, Ali
Goldie Brother, Pitt, Mark Carnes, Chris Frankino, Jennifer Erica, Elvis.
Thank you guys so much for doing what you do.
Jacob Nol, your new band is I think a lot
better than Law with Growth the dice on because what

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you and your producer put together right there with all
these different sounds is so cool. How does this work
now that you're signed to a label if you have
to wait now to get your tour dates for you
to go places, because you're gonna performing here in Orange
County in Garden Grove. But like as your whole website
set up for the next year, or what's going on
with this? Still building it? Honestly, Yeah, I haven't even

(28:37):
officially announced the project yet to like the public, Like
I mean, I've mentioned it in some shows like this
and stuff, but like this whole path since really June sixth,
when we did that first run, it's just been building
like it. It's why it makes me happy when you
said people knew a little bits. That means my job,
I've been doing it. The whispers are starting to grow.
It's like I think he's doing this or was it
his old band or is it this new thing? Or

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what's the easy playing with say that we had a
controversy and here we didn't know exactly what the new
band was or the old band, you know, and Daniel
had to figure that out. I'm sure that you probably
asked you when you give in. Once it's out, it
will be blasted out there because everything's still like you know,
in the in the planning phases of what's going to happen,
getting the website set up, getting the branding, getting all

(29:19):
the dates. But we do have dates in the books
for the project to play. And it's basically as soon
as we dropped this first single close enough in Motel radio,
that's gonna be the official announcement, like, Hey, this is
Jacob's Castle, this is Jacob Nole's new project, this is
what we do, this is what our sound is like,
here's our attentions. And then after that, singles will just
start coming out periodically, hopefully like every month and a half,
and then we just keep planning on shows from there,

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So that's great. And have you done the whole you know,
covers for your dad yet, Like, have you did those
and made videos? I mean, I just think they would
go viral and just have the potential just you know,
and see. That's something I want to treat with a
lot of caution and also enthusiasm, because a lot of
people think it's like an epotism thing, like I could
just snap my fingers and immediately be at the top

(30:03):
of the reggae rock scene, and it's really I've been
in this since I was seventeen, for ten years, and
it has not been like that or that easy. Like
there's so much that goes into it, and so much
people's preconceived notions that go into who you are. So
I'd rather than just jump into something like that. I
want to really truly and organically build something that my
own fans are excited with, and then slowly sprinkle in

(30:25):
that other stuff, Like in my live set, like we
play a couple of my dad's songs, we cover that,
we throw it in there for the fans and for
charity events, I'll do, you know, some sublime stuff. But
as this stuff sort of starts to progress, like, I mean,
the sky's the limit, man, Like anything people could imagine
I think could be possible. And what I'm most excited
by is if there's any young, up and coming or

(30:45):
even established musicians out there in any genre that has
been inspired by Sublime. I would love to do like
a remix or a cover with those people, because I
think we could make it really dope. I'm sure you
guys could. And as you say that, is there anything
that hits you when you listen to that old shit?
Now that you're such an established artist, you know, you
got a record deal. When you look back at, you know,

(31:06):
the Sublime music, their path, their story, does it affect
you in any way whatsoever? Oh? Yeah, man, it's It's
both tragic and beautiful. They have one of the most
interesting stories of all time, and I really can't wait
for it to be told in its entirety. But um,
I mean, they just created something that was so cool
and genuine, touched so many people. They were shooting off
and then my Pops passed away, like right before they

(31:28):
were able to really capitalize on, you know, all of
that success, and you know, without the general the armies
start to scatter and form different camps, and I'm hoping
now enough time has passed that people can set aside
their differences and their previous enmities and reconvene again under
one singular tent that I hope gets to say Jacob's

(31:49):
Castle or Skunk Records, which were also in the process
of rebranding, relaunching and bringing back into the current day. Right,
and as you're doing that and building that part of
my ignorance, how did your pops pass a heroin overdose?
That's right? Yeah, so a big part of what my
family's But the block of wood that I keep bringing
out to knock on this will be a good little
product placement. This is a Bradley's House coast. I don't

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know if you can see it on the cameras, but
my family has a foundation started by my brads, my
dad's sister, Kelly Nole, and it's called the Nol Family Foundation,
and we seek to raise awareness about the opioid crisis
and the epidemic. You can check us out on Instagram
or online at an old family And um, it's a
big problem right now, it's a it's a big crisis. Yeah,
you know, it used to be the twenty seven club

(32:32):
and now it's like it's the seventeen club. Man. It's
it's just crazy. So our big mission is, you know,
create events and fundraisers to raise awareness and eventually open
up a treatment facility called Bradley's House where we can
help musicians without the necessary means to hopefully overcome their
opioid That's beautiful, man, addiction, that's great. If there's anything

(32:53):
that we could do here at Cannabis Talk one, I
wanted to help with that, please let us. Oh, I
would love spreading that word and hearing that, because you're right.
I mean, I constantly am trying to get back. I've
been sober for twenty four years and I party real
hard and I should be dead, you know. And I
recently just had a buddy that committed suicide just like
last week, and it's just crazy to think that, you know,
how this thing can get us. Whether it's a drug,

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whether it's the mind or too much drugs, a disease,
whatever it is, but people need help out there, and
it's because that you guys are doing that and honoring
your father that way. It's serious and important. And that's
the big thing too, is I think it's that whole
coming full circle, you know, is that like I never
seek to demonize the use of drugs, but just harm reduction.
You know, it's always going to be out there, It's
always going to be available for people, and I just

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want people out there to know that there are ways
that there's there's there's a future, there's something else that
can be done out there, There's another outlets. You don't
need to overdose them, you know, I want to use them,
use them, but be cautious and be aware of the knowledge,
be armed with the facts. Yes, I think that's so
key right there. Man. I can't wait for you to
perform at this great event that you're going to be
doing that and so many other great performers. Have you

(34:00):
thought about things that you'd like to perform with, because
we were talking out there, you mentioned somebody that you
would love to do a collab with, and Damon albarn
bro fucking gorillas. That's like my number one guy I'd
ever want to That's so when people come up to
me with how much you know my dad influenced them,
that's like that for me, Like all of my stuff
was influenced by gorillas growing up, and as far as

(34:21):
like newer people. I mean, one hundred Gas is probably
my favorite artists and the most recent memory. I think
that they make just amazing, really cool music that cycles
a lot of the early two thousands internet culture that
I grew up with. I seek to incorporate a lot
of that kind of hyperpop stuff. So many bands out there.
You know Black Midi on the rock scene. I think
they're the most exciting rock band out there right now. Also,

(34:43):
King Gizzard's been doing stuff for a while that's in
the rock scene, and then like some more electronic stuff
so underground. The British duo Peery and Tommy. I'd love
to work with those two. They insanely really good production
work and really great songwriting. And there's a smaller band
two called Kids Smoko that I heard about. You check
them out as well. They do a bunch of cool
mix of different genres. And my boy Mark over here

(35:05):
was telling me about was like a no fun That's
another great example of like this is some California music now,
of mixing a bunch of different genres in a really cool,
underground and authentic way. Like that's the kind of stuff
I seek to do with Jacob's Castle and the relaunch
of Skunk Records. Well, God, William, we get to see
all those happen in those collaborations happened. We'd like to
do the high five with every guest that we come
on this show. Jacob, So I'm gonna ask you some

(35:26):
fun questions. I know you're not smoking now, but how
old are you the first time you smoked cannabis? And
where did you get it? From? Twelve years old? And
it's not to implicate that I love my parents. I
think I raised your kids how you will. But we
grew up in a weird family where that was normal.
So my first time smoking was the first time doing
everything was with my family at a big party with everybody.
It's always my first time smoking. I was six with

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my older brother. I mean, come on now, he was sponding.
That's true bonding. You know, it's called family. It's family
very much. Is It's exactly what it is? Question number
two of the high five, Jacob, No, what is your
favorite way to use annabis? Okay? When I smoked, I
was a joint man. I mean I loved having my bonds,
but I would just break them like routinely. Bro I
had like the worst luck with bonds. I don't know

(36:08):
what it was. So I really got good at rolling joints.
Like my dad had this technique my mis step day.
He taught me how to roll these perfect joints. And
so nowadays, Oh I'm not my jacket on me, but
I still smoke cigarettes. I should quit. I'm a singer.
I had was quit for three years, but I started
smoking again on tour and anymore. Yeah, yeah, And I'm
not gonna turn my back on my good friend tobacco.
But I roll my own cigarettes now and I got

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I got it down to a science. Man, it's my
favorite white a smoke. It gives you that ritual that
you've been missing. Ritual is so important in everything, routine
and ritual. That's the key to staying happy, exactly true. Like,
let me roll a spliff without though cannabis and I'm
good to go. That's it, exactly. And if you've seen
me at the show, you want me to roll a
joint for you, I bet best joint you ever had
there it is. Try him on that crushing number three.

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Craziest place you ever used or smoked cannabis? Man, I
can't remember. I bet it was sick though, dude, I
bet it was like the coolest place and I forgot
maybe just at your house though. It's just funny to
think growing out and having a bunch of plants around
you at all times and just cannabis. They're just okay.
I just I don't have to steal it. I'm just
grabbing some weed here. Oh yeah exactly. And then I
remember my dad gave me this like little like dead

(37:13):
kind of clone. He was like, you can grow it
out out back, son. I was like really, And I
put in a potted plant and it got big and beautiful,
and then San Diego had like a cold season, so
it got all purple right, and I was all bummed
because it was dying. I'm like, no, wait, I could
sell it as like purple cutch because when I was
growing up, that's what all the rappers were singing about,
and I was like the coolest kid in school. Man.
I was just like, it's like real purple weed. They
didn't know that. It just got all destroyed by the

(37:35):
car and it's horrible. Why did you chaste like fucking
water like nasty outdoor dirt and water weed? Right here?
Question number four the High five. What was your go
to munchies after you got high. Oh man. You know
what's funny is after smoking regularly for long enough, like
I actually, it started to suppress my appetite and like

(37:55):
a cool, healthy way. It was like it was like
I would smoke and then I wouldn't you know, I
could just go up about my day. But when you
first start smoking, I think you pretty much tear apart
your fridge. I used to make these nasty, disgusting sundays
with my buddies. We would just raid my parents fridge
and just like pour everything and ice cream and then
the pop tarts and then sprinkles and then just throw
throw the Cheetohs on there, you know, and then and

(38:17):
then we just fall asleep. My mom would walk in
and there's just pile of trash in my room. You're
never smoking again, goddamn. I don't know problem with me
smoking until it became a man. Where did you learn
this from? Yeah, I'm learning from watching you right this
commercial ever right, and then it's like the best watched
the commercial together and die dude. And then it's like

(38:40):
so funny, like when your parents catch like I used
to be drunk or whatever, or I'm where do you
not make from you, Dad? What do you mean? What
do you think? This is what we do with the house.
We get all fucked up and shit our pants. Oh,
I got so many stories about that. It's just so
funny to think when you're like, where did you do this? Side?
Who taught you you did? Mom? All right? Question number

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five of the high five Jacob No lead singer of
Jacob's Castle. You can catch their big for whoa performance
coming out here? What's the date on that? Again? St?
Patty's a seventeen seventeenth Yes, Sarah garden Grove Amphitheater. It's
gonna be the sickest show you everything the trip to
Garden Grove. Go get your tickets. Ticketweb dot com is
the spot, So go there and make sure you cop

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that right there. But if you could smoke cannabis with
anyone dead or alive, who would it be? And why?
This was like the hardest question because there's so many good,
so many good answers. But there's one of my my hero,
my all time hero is this guy called Longmont potion Castle. Now,
he's a prank caller. He's been doing it since the

(39:44):
eighties and he's a very mysterious guy. No one really
knows his true identity. People theorize he's like in some
metal band or something, because he puts out these albums
where each track is just a prank call that he does,
and like there's some little metal interludes and you guys,
when you go home, please look up Longmont Potion Cast
if you want to just die laughing. He'll prank call
these people and then he'll put like these effects and
pedals on his voice and he just gets it. He

(40:08):
sounds totally ridiculous, Like he'll say the most absurd stuff.
He'll call pretend to be the ups guy and I'll
be like, um, you know, we have a forty cables
from Guam here that you ordered, and then they'll get
all pissed at him, like, well man, you need to
be president accountable and it's a cash on delivery. We're
gonna need you up front. We had our guy down
at the docks there and you didn't show up, and like,
and he'll just get them feeble furious, even though he
sounds ridiculous. So it's so absurd, it's so like adult

(40:30):
swim old school, like just internet culture type of humor
makes me die laughing whenever I need to be cheered up.
I feel like if I did still smoke weed, or
back when I did, you smoke with that guy would
probably be a pretty good time. He's my hero. Fun
is that random? And now that you're lacing up people
on some random dude that like, I'd never heard of
this dude. Oh he's still making He's still making stuff

(40:50):
and putting it out there. And now that you got
like what's the skype and stuff? He'll do these great
bits where he'll connect multiple people together in a call
and then he'll mute himself and so people be like, hello,
who is it, and like, oh, well you called me? Like, no,
I didn't you called me? Because he's calling both of
them and putting him in a conference call. Oh dude,
he's like a magician. You gotta look up long Mot
potion castle hero. It's just funny because I used to

(41:12):
love doing those type of thing. It's like I would
get baked and do oh man, I'll do that calling
the radio station's just doing the stupidest shit ever. I
just love that. That's funny. I gotta look up this
guy's name again. A matter of fact, right, how do
you spell his name? Longmont? One word? Ye, and then
potion castle two words castle and honestly kind of inspiration

(41:34):
for Jacob's Castle Longmont potion Castle. So really yeah, yeah,
I was gonna ask that too. As he said castle
at the end, was that like an influence of Okay? Yeah.
The way that name actually came about is I played
D and D old school. So does my uncle Opie.
By the way, so some old school seventies shit. And uh.
One of my buddies asks like, are we meeting at
Bow's house or at Jacob's Castle today in the text
and I looked at it and I was like, that's

(41:56):
the name Jacob's Castles. Shout out my friend Jared. How
random as that he sent you the texts and that's
what led you to believe that's my new project? Yeah?
My writer about a Jared Reeve man, like he just said,
and I was like, dude, you name the band. He's like, what, no, way?
Oh that is great, Jacob. I can't wait to come
out there and support this. It's gonna be a great event.

(42:17):
I think that our whole show is gonna be out
there because Mark's doing it. And Mark already invited me
and told me I have to come, So I'm gonna
show up for this one because Mark normally he does
events what he tells me him after the facts, you
missed a sick thing. No, no, no, they all just go.
And then Mark goes, oh, Joe, I didn't tell you
because you're an old man and you don't want to go.
You didn't blah blah blah. I'm like, Mark, can I

(42:38):
get down with you guys and go hang out and
kick it? Well? No, but he actually gave me a
phone call actually ahead of time and say, Joe, I
want you to come to this event, so I can't
wait to come. And we got to bring the nut
young new interns because I think these guys can be
in your band. Look at him, they got the young
good look over there a DJ. I need a dj
H Goldie if you know anybody, that's what I was
worth a three piece. I need a fourth member. I

(42:59):
need DJ. I'm an audio engineer. Bro Bro, you want
to come do live sound for us? We need a
live guy man, Bro, Yes, let me meet your number
after the show. Brook At show him the hair too,
show him there, Look at the look, Look at the look.
He's ready. Let's go. Oh that's our man, exactly. My
drummer has his hair buzz, but it's died pink. I'm

(43:21):
trying to do that. Actually next I just don't want
to copy. I might go like green or something that's
the vibe. Oh shit in away. So it's great. You
know what's funny is when I was young, grace to
do my hair green, purple red. You got here purple.
I can show you some pictures when we get off
the show. Oh bro, I want to say, Oh yeah,
I can't wait to show you because it's just so
crazy to look at oak stuff and it's a great time.

(43:42):
Saint Patrick's Day is the spot, you guys. The Garden
Namp Big Bag Entertainment is doing a great one. You
guys a trip to Garden Grove. Go check out our
guys gonna be performing out there. Thank you so much
for coming on the shows or anything that you want
to mention or anything you want to talk about before
we let you go. But we're definitely gonna have you back.
I want you coming here and perform live here at
the campus when we have an events. Oh I would

(44:03):
love that brings out by the time and just shot
rip and have a great time. The project will be
in full swing all I have to say is Skunk
Records is back, Jacob's Castle one thousand years, Southern California
shall rule the world, and don't forget to knock on Wood.
It's Cannabis Talk one oh one, folks. If nobody else
loves you, we do, and go knock on wood. Thank

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