Jason Gann, Passion, Performance, Adorability, and creator of Wilfred.

Jason Gann, AKA Wilfred, goes into his inspiration for the character, why fans have resonated with the series, and how he got into Cannabis. Check out wilfredcbd.com their products are designed to provide the highest quality, highest potency CBD and Hemp flower available at an affordable price.

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Jason Gan. I mean, there's not too many cats that

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I get to see online that I go. This dude
nailed it on the I G. Passion Performance, adorability. Who
pulls out the word adorability? I mean, I'm not gonna lie, dog,
I was this no double that much jealous sexually? You
know what I mean? When I read adorability with this motherfucker,

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not only that he's got the dog pick and the picture,
I mean I wanted to go over there and cuddle them,
you know. I mean it's one of those things and
then you go and do you see the Wilfred CBD
dot com w I L F R E D CBD
dot com. I love it, Jason, I really do. Bottom line, folks,
He's a wrioter, producer, comedian, actor. Obviously, everything you've just

(02:15):
seen right there that he pulled out of his ass
for the i G quote is epic. I mean, there's
not so many people that could do three words and go, yeah,
he's passionate. Look what he created this fucking show. I
mean he's performance just yeah, he worked on it, adorability,
he's dressed in a dog. I mean, dude, I got it.
You know what I'm saying, Like it spoke to me like,
it's so funny how your three words on I G.

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And I'm like, he's all those things and he's the
owner in the creator of Wilfred, a series that aired
for four seasons about that the press dude that that
saw his neighbor's dog all full grown man and he's
the one in the dog shuit. IM not gonna front.
I didn't watch all four seasons. I did see glimpses
of it. I did watch it, and I felt like,
if this isn't the perfect stoner show when I've seen

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everything about this coming on, I'm like, how high was
this guy when he created We're gonna find out or
maybe he wasn't. Either way, now he's in the cannabis game.
You heard me say it. Wilfred cbd dot com and
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Jason Rep coming in my Yeah, I'm really good. Um yeah.

(03:44):
The adorability, Um well yeah, I mean I got the
dog suit and you know, I'm pretty cuddly. I guess.
You know what, when I first did Wolf started as
a short film back in Australia if I can two
thousand and two, and uh it wasn't. Wilfrid smugged the
ball in the first fifteen seconds of the short film,
and the short film became this huge hit when the

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Sun Dance went around the world. And so then when
we came to make the Australian TV series, I thought, well,
I know we win them over in the in the
short film, so let's just use the first seven minutes
of the short film. And then when we brought to America.
Did the American version with Elijah Would I said a Zookiman,
the show runner. I said, look, it's very important how
we meet Wolf, for what he looks like, and and
so we did almost took a lot from that original

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short film and we um, so we're smoking the bomb
in the very beginning. And just because that introduction of
world was very important because the guyd of dogs, whit
can kind of be really ridiculous and sucked and risk
and I'd already made I thought, Okay, it's one thing
if making full of myself in front of Australia, but
I'm about to make a fool of myself in front
of the whole world here. So I think we set

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myself at home, not out there. But yeah, you know,
like I back then, I mean there was just twenty
years ago, and I thought, I don't know, getting dogs.
I've done a bit of animal suits stuff as a
young actor. I don't want to do that again. But
it's it's a it's a two days shoot. It's on
the weekend. I'm getting a dog suit for two days.
Twenty years later, um still, I mean out of the suit.

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But back then, when I was playing Wilford. You know,
I was a younger man, and I kind of gave
Wilford this kind of gruff voice, you actually making a
bit like older and and and over the years, when
you see the series progress, my voice became that. And
then I put a suit on the other day for
it twenty I realized that the beard has also blended
into the grayness of the dog suits. Over the years.

(05:31):
I've actually morphed like you to Wilford. So I wanted
to act so much anymore. It's potato around the chin. Yeah,
you're like, wait a minute, ways the ship not go
on the same well, you know it's the it's the
dogs is on about eight dog suited number ten by now,
so we you know, like they do the deteriorating the

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wash I discovered. I mean, Jesson, did you actually sit
at home and fucking imagine the dog shoot or did
you have to describe it just so many and they
meet it for you? Mate. It's so it's it's a
long whining story. But we we I had I did
find it in a in a in a store. We
board it, but I had done a lot of stuff.

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We start had to search for it. I had the
vision of what it looked like, because I've done you know,
these a bunch of children's theater shows for years as
a young actor, and I just used to did for
every animal, didn't matter what I was. I was an
emu on stage, there's a kangaro or whatever. I just
whacked on as a black eyeliner on this black nose,
and that became my gesture, I'm an animal. And so
then when when we came up with the idea for

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the short film, I was sleeping on my made sofa.
He'd just been on a on a date with a
girl at a concert and he came home. You know,
he's you know, he's Tolley, and he's like, you know,
I just got blocked by this dog. You know, I
went home to this girl. And when he got in
the bedroom and there's a sofa in the bedroom and
here was this dog sitting there and he's just like
basically you know, it was all over me and like

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interrogating me in his own way, and I got you
a block, completely blocked from her, and I just started
improvising as this dog kind of be like meet the
parents and this is a short film. We wrote it
down as best as we could We shot it that
weekend and it just went on. But yeah, my maid
who created with me, he said, what's Wolford looked like?

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I said, ship, I think I know exactly. It looks
like I don't want to get any one, and mostly
began the animals does. But you know, I was looking
for the Daggar is bad, like worst looking the animals,
So you can find as part of the character that
I was creating was kind of like he was a
man who was in love with his owner, but he
was stuck in this dog's body and as frustrated with

(07:38):
this damn thing that he was stuck in. Like a
lot of dogs, I think, uh, you know, they don't
they don't like to be confronted with their dogness. You know,
they don't like seeing other dogs. Something was like, no,
I'm more like you than I am like them. So
I wanted him to have that frustration of being in
this miserable suit. When I came to America and I
had it was like answering a parallel universe where I

(07:59):
was in the other that I was shooting in Venice
Beech and there's palm trees. We'd always shot him winter
in Melbourne, which is always cold and wet, and suddenly
really people are treating me well in American accents, and
and they said about the dogs suit and your dogs that.
I said, you know, you want some air conditioning in
there or something, you know, we can sit sort of
make it more comfortable. I said, no, I think like

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part of the character is just how uncomfortable Wilford is
in his own skin. So I make sure they kept
it as hot. And people saying myself, bloody piss all day. Yeah,
I was always grumpy. I was always grumpy getting in
and out of it. Now now now I don't get grumpy,
you know, I mean, now I'm back to my roots.

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So I mean I had I had a Hollywood makeup
artist that, you know, spend a lot of time trying
to recreate the nose that I used to just whack
on with a bit of eyeliner for years. And now
back to the eyeline. And you know, like because now
I do you know with the with the cannabis brand
and the hand brand. You know, I do appearances at
retail part of the dispensaries, and still was I did
want one recently in four twenties, and yeah, I'm back

(09:03):
to the high line, and now it's just back to
the old school, but Wilfred out of the out of
the bag. But you know, I actually enjoyed these days.
I think of it more of an honor, you know,
Like for many years I really detested it. I didn't
want to get in out of suit, and I kind
of only really did it because I knew that so
many people loved it. I kind of did it literally.
People say, do it for the fans. I was literally

(09:23):
doing it for the fans that other things that I
wanted to do as well. And now that I've seen
how the show is resonated with people and how much
love there is for Warford, I don't know how many
times I'm gonna get in out of that suit while
I'm alive. So I like every time I put it on.
It's kind of like a bit of a ceremony. I'm
very very grateful, You're humbled by the I'm feel very

(09:45):
pleased to help them. Jason. I think you've deserved and
earned to fucking get a damn near air conditioned dog
suiting our dog. You're in the cannabis game, You're a
fucking older dog. You know what, you know what, you
know what. I deserve a human character. Yeah you know
what I mean, Just give stuff a break and allow
this old dog who's now the o G dog look

(10:06):
little breathing room. I was done before we did the
American version. And I tell this story about how I
when I first saw the dog hanging up in my
trailer in season one, like for the publicity of Season
one here, I looked at it hanging there like the
Batman's suit, just like I was calling me, welcome back
all the brand, and I'm just like, I don't think
I can get in that suit one more time episodes

(10:30):
this season? Can I just get my car and just
to scape across America? But yeah, you know, I found
a way. I found a way to love it, and
I'm really gotta do it well Jason. Yeah, well, Jason,
this Cannabis Talk one one. When we come back, I
want to ask you a few questions about how I've
seen you in the actual festivals and shows. It's it's
cannabis Stuck one one. Will be right back after this break.

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We'll be right back with Cannabis Talk one oh one.
Welcome back to Cannabis Talk one oh one. Welcome back
to Cannabis Talk one oh one. Jason gains again g

(11:13):
A N N again. You know, Jason, I'll tell you what, man.
You know, I remember seeing you know, wilfred on on site.
You know what I mean, Just just you know, when
when you're walking around in the full dog outfit and
I don't remember what trade shall. I want to say
it was in Vegas somewhere, um, but you know it's
either m J bis con or um one of the

(11:33):
festival's push docks somewhere. I remember seeing it, and I
remember meeting you, and I just you know, to the
character that you've created with that even the way like
you move in it, because there's a way like like
you know, you could easily just walk around and be
in the in the outfit, you know, and not being
in character, if you will, versus when I see you
walk around and and you kind of like bounce around

(11:55):
almost like it's because you're in full character. It brings
so much joy to me, right because you know, I
didn't grow up watching the show, but just knowing the
history of what you've done and then seeing it and
then watching you it's priceless. So how does that relate
to Because like you said, you're doing it for the fans,
and I clearly know that, like when I see you

(12:16):
in that suit, you know, and you're you're bouncing around,
it's not you know, it's it can't be easy to
do that. Do it for the people? Is the man
of the people? Yeah, yeah, yeah, it isn't It isn't
always easy. And I kind of have a I kind
of have a just a kind of a rule with
myself that you know, if I say to myself, if
you don't feel like get in the suit today, I

(12:37):
don't have to get in a suit. But I always
end up getting in a suit because I know that,
you know, but it does actually there is a fan
bit of anxiety connected to it. But I you know, like,
but all it is is once I I guess it's
you know, before a performance. I come from a life
performing background, and and you know, when you haven't been

(12:57):
on stage in a while, there's nerves. And then once
you get on stage and to get your first laugh,
you just relax and it's like, okay, I am in
I'm with friends here, and so it once that happens,
once I've actually connected with you know, and I see
people I know as soon as I've seen them look
in their eyes were all there. Once you see that

(13:19):
love and you see that reaction, Um, you know it's
it's I relaxed and you know. But I mean, I
can't say that there's not a great deal of method
acting or anything like where I have to kind of
get into characters so much these days. But Wilford, as
the actor acts the character. There were he's something beyond me.

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And some actors talk about this, and if you're not
in the acting world, you might sort of think it's
a bunch of bullshit or whatever, But there's something to
a character that takes on the life of their own.
And there will be times where each season I'd come
at the beginning of each season, We'll be shooting the
first scene and I'd come off in between takes. Let's
say direct at first of all, he's not here. He's

(14:02):
not here, And they're like, what are you're talking about?
Wolf's not here. They're saying, what do you look like?
Your sound like Wilford? It looks great. I say, yeah,
I know I'm doing I'm acting like Wilfred. But he's
not here right now. Okay, So I do a couple
more takes and I'd say he's here. They go he's here,
say he's here now, and then he'd be there for
the rest of the season. I'd never have to go
searching for him again. And that would and after a

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couple of seasons, like the key executives and stuff, they
are aware of it, and that's to say to me.
They'd say to me, he's here now, right, he came here,
and that's scene. I'd say, yeah, he's here. So it's
it's just something that you know, the Wilford character when
I guess you know, compare to maybe to a piece
of part right, like the Mona Lisa is the Mona Lisa,

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And so we've got all this kind of energy towards it.
There's only because of the people as well that have
viewed it, that have discussed it, that have loved it
them Matt thought about it. So Wilfred isn't any men
of dogs, who isn't anything. It's really a about how
what how people the energy that people give it. I
mean people write to me literally every day and say
that Wilfrid helped them through grief or through mental words

(15:10):
and mental health issues, depression, lost their dog or something
like that. And I can tell the way they're thanking
me that this character has connected to them in a
profound way that doesn't happen every day. So um that
every single person that feels that way has helped create
this character of Wilford. And that's why I feel blessed

(15:32):
that I've got to be Wilford and created Wilford. But
also I'm a Worford fan. And also I'm not so
above myself that or so full of myself that I
think that I'm something and special because I created Wilford.
I remember seeing a musical artist years ago in Australia
and he and he was up on stage doing a
bunch of new stuff and he didn't want to play

(15:52):
any old stuff, and we're all shouting out our favorite
classics for years that we've been listening to the years,
and he got angry at us. He said, I'm not
a fucking jukebox. I remember just thinking, well, kind of
songs are ours as well? You know, like your song,
you wrote them, but they are our songs because they
mean something to us. We grew up on them, We
bought your albums, we paid for your albums, right, so
we give you his career. And that's how I feel

(16:14):
about the Wilford exchange, so um, yeah, it's wanted to
do it. Well, you know, I think that's beautiful. And
not only that, it sounds like everything you just described,
it feels like what you're put in Wilfred's CBD. Like
everything that you just got from everything that you described
was the experience that you felt. And I feel like
that's what you put into this company. Yeah, yeah, that's

(16:37):
exactly what I've done and I write. But we started
with with Wilford Cannabis and we launched on Forward twenty
in California, and you know, I like I wanted I was.
I fell into the kind of Wilford. Actually, the cannabis
and Hend brand was created a bit like Wilford. The
character was because it was a joke, the joke about

(16:58):
the guy couldn't have couldn't get aid because of the dog,
and I turned into this massive show. And similarly, I
just you know, put a fake a joke um ad
and social media saying Wilfrid's weed delivery service in California,
and I was a picture Wilmar Pool in the bomb
and it's like I promoted like Wilford did the ad,
you know, like a tall year old kid, didn't I

(17:18):
had your old kid did it. It's like, yeah, that's
what the guys are doing. Now he's coming to the house.
Remember the good odds if they don't have to worry
about all those choices of different strains. Remember when you
deal what he had was what he got all those
days of back because Wilfrid's coming to your door and
for an extra fifty bucks, you're smoking when yourself like,
oh my god, we're driving ordering now. So I knew then, okay,

(17:40):
I've got there's an angle here. But I had to
get the rights to the character and it's my character.
But you know it's how hard was that was that hard?
You got the rights? Um, it was easier than I thought.
I thought it would be impossible, So it was easier
than impossible. Um. And so once I had it, I
was like, okay, now we've something here. But I wanted

(18:02):
to you know, I bootstrapped it, and I the first
couple of part like thotically integrated partners that I almost
went in the business with. You know, when I looked
at the contracts, I was like, ship this. You remind
me too much of my Hollywood contracts. I can't do
another one of these. I need to, Yeah, I'm gonna
I'm gonna be a bit smarter. I gotta, I gotta
get a bit more business sense about me. So I

(18:23):
went with there's no money to be made doing it
like that. And so then I went and I got
a manufacturing and schedgy facility manufacturing license Sacramento. I procured
the flower myself. I designed the packaging myself. And I
don't know if anyone if you've seen the packaging about
hand smote, yes, dude, they're amazing, dude. I uh, that's
the Colonel Sanders pulled human kind of logo and I

(18:47):
love it. The back is great, I mean, and none
of that. For those who want to see it, go
to the website Wilfred's CBD dot com and he's just
showing the packaging. Have the pre roll CBD basically your
cigarettes and they're just right there, ready to go. But
there's tall CBD. Oh it's beautiful. So with the pre
roads in Lakhana box and so yeah, I um, you know,

(19:10):
I got a dispensaries myself, you know, in California, and
you know we're in the looking kindabas T shirt and hatton.
You know, some people said, you know, if he's selling something.
There's the door. They were interested. Let you know, I
wasn't in care, but other people would be like, holy shit,
I love that. That out on the show, I said,
you love HIMY love me. It's me. They're like, whoa.
So it's always a lot easier to get shelves on
the shelf, if shells space, if you know, if they

(19:31):
were with fans, it was too tough, really tough. Yeah,
and let me and then let you know, worked in
California at Colico Coast in San Diego. You got yourself
in Illinois and Normal and Bloomington and New York and Woodhaven, Ohio.
He's all over the place from Cincinnati, Cherylville, Dayton, Cincinnati,
all over Cincinnati basically east west, north south, and he's

(19:53):
got that puff and going South Carolina and also in Washington.
I mean, dude, you're hitting spots out j Jesson, isn't
Is it a full spectrum or is it? You know? What?
What are we looking at? As far as the CD products,
it's um, well, the ham smokes are smokable, ham flower,
it's frosted lime strain and yeah, basically it's I. We

(20:19):
also joined delts Rate as well, a lot of us. Yeah,
we're doing but my, my, the text we do the
same as I die with the cannabis smokes in California.
So there's no biomass in these these these hemp smokes
had a bad reputation as having a lot of biomass
and crab, and the same with the pre rolls in California.
There's no treament and shake or anything in there. It's
just just flour, right. And so I found you know,

(20:42):
some really good high t ac level flour in sacrament Sacramento.
So that was a lot, I mean, the first place
I wanted. But I want to charge me too k
for a pound of flower. I'm like, sure, I'm not
going to make any money out of them and pre rolls,
And as you probably know, making pre roles it's labor
intensive and expense to um. Whereas then I was getting
pounds of really good, really good flower for three fifty bucks.

(21:06):
So it's a big So that's a big difference. Um.
But you know, I always keep the magesty small because
you know, I don't there's no fancy, big you know,
celebrity overhead on and I want I'm a working class
guy and I'm what was a working class dog, and
I want I'd rather be in lots of places and
have them be affordable. So it's important to me. I say,

(21:26):
they're not my products now, they're not the Ferrari necessarily,
but they're gonna get you where you want to go.
And you know, and and you know, there's so that's
what we've done with the with the ham smokes and
the delt rate stuff as well. You know, delta rates
a bit kind of it's a shaky business right now, industry,
but you know, we depend on what state, just really

(21:48):
depending on what stature. And I mean because some states
are fully open and some states are fully closed, you know,
and and it's just, um, you know, it's a shame
that we even have to go through this. I mean,
with such a it's a plant, right, I mean, you know,
there's so many regulations out there for these different products.
And I believe in regulations and stuff like that because
obviously we don't want to have anybody in harm's way.

(22:09):
But when you have something that's special like this plant,
and um, there's so many intelligent people out there, but
it just needs to be rolled out and and a
little bit faster than they're moving. You know so, but
I hope. Look, I love Delta and and ours. You know,
we have c o A attached on our q R
carries on everything, you know, and we you know, we

(22:30):
basically the same with the compliance with packaging because California
started tough with their compliance chocolate packaging and stuff. We
no matter what the laws are aren't in any state,
we always we stick to the kind of same level
of the California doesn't the Kinaba stuff, so that we
are trying to be as responsible as response, but also

(22:51):
of the of the flower that was selling and and
so yeah, you know, like what I love about it
it is probably most is like Joe, what you're saying,
like that saying kind of thought behind the show and
the character. It's like, oh, which like this is medicine
for a lot of people, and the Delta as well.
And there's some places that have really restrictive cannabis laws

(23:13):
and they can't get anything. And then these guys can
actually go online the Worldford CVD dot com and have
this stuff sent to their door with usps. I mean
usps sometimes get it right and sometimes get it wrong.
But you know, you just know, not our just because
you're from out of the country. You bloody bastard. You

(23:34):
better watch your mouth. You know. I myself like now,
you know, right now, I'll get it delivered to myself.
And I just can't believe it. You know. I say
that what I'm doing now is the kind of dream
that my dream would dream, you know, like being a
stone of more than quarter of a century and I
never thought that I lived to see cannabis legal, but

(23:58):
to the end one day have a company with my face,
albeit in a dog suit. Um, it's just like just
way beyond anything that I could have imaged. I kind
of felt like I already overachieved by being having a
show in Hollywood, but then you have this brand I
feel like I'm doing I'm I'm trailblazing. You know, no

(24:21):
one has ever come from where I came from and
took a show to Hollywood. I'm a Wilford is still
the number one Australian television form and a successful Australian
television format. To cross over to America, but then to
have the characters spin off a cannabis and hemp brand
in an emerging it's fantastic. It's I'm very master last

(24:43):
way beyond me and the long, you know, for generations up.
You know, I'm going to people one day say what
Wilfred was a TV show? So yeah, yeah, check it out. Well,
I just it will always circle back. Oh it's great, Jason,
you know we're gonna come back. I want to get
a chance to ask you to, uh, like, who have
you met since you've come to the States from Australia

(25:05):
and hearing your story right there. I don't know why,
but for some weird reason, I went to the movie
Strange Brew. In my head hearing you talk, you remembers
the movie Strange Brew as a kid. By any chance, anybody,
these kids are drowning and beer, and it's like, just
I've never imagined drowning and bloody beer would be a
great idea. I just felt like that was you go ahead, ever,

(25:26):
imagine having all this weed around me, all this flower
around me would be a great idea. And I'm dressed
as a dog and I'm helping people cure things and
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That being said, we have like Jason Ganna with us
with Wilfrid CBD that's a new company, and of course
the big show that you had that it's just all
around the Wilfred. And I'm just curious being from Australia,
but did you just say all around Did you just

(27:14):
say all around the Wilford? Well, yeah, yeah, exactly. I
don't know what I'm saying. It's been all around the Wilfred,
all around the world with Wilfrid. Who what did you
meet out here in California where you're like, holy shit,
they're a fan of the show because your show picked
up it's you know, four seasons. It is big here
and people loved the show and picked up a lot

(27:35):
of lakes. Yeah, it kind of doesn't get any bigger
than than than this this story. I because, as I
mentioned earlier, I didn't want to do in America. I
was done with it. I didn't have a great time
doing in Australia, and I had another TV series that
I credit and also started in in Australia, where I
got to play this sports star who was sucked arounded
with the beavy of women and driving Ferraris and nice Claus,

(27:57):
and it was a lot more fun to play than
Wilford in this There's Old Dogs too. So I told
my American manager when we got one and we were
going to go out with that a version of that show,
and he said to me, he called me up in Australia.
He said, look, I know you don't want to play
Wilford again. I said, I'm not getting that freaking dog
suit again, and he said, hear me out. He said,
I think Wilf could be your more Committee. He said,

(28:18):
like the alien the dog, Everyone's going to remember the dog,
how successful show isn't and you'll be able to walk
into any room in Hollywood. I said, look, well, More
Committy was my favorite show when I was a kid,
So if you can, I'll do it. He sold it.
I did it, and in the season we were writing
season two, I was in my office and writers and
Elijah Wood, my co star, sends me an email. He says,

(28:42):
I'm with Robin Williams promoting Happy Fee too. And he's
a huge fan of the show, him and his wife,
and he'd loved to play a guest role in the
show no way, So I said, he's he's an episode
one of the seasons. It's right up Brotherhoods. I could
see that. I could see it, like, that's so funny. Yeah.
Would you believe that was his first acting performance in
a television series since markan Mendy No, well fucking I

(29:06):
mean he'd done Dave Leatherman or being on TV, but
the first acting role since Mark and Mindy and that
was the that's right because he but that was at
that era when you did TV only and then you
became a big movie story. You didn't go back to TV. Yeah,
And this was and you know, people were starting to
come back to cable TV. Um. You know, the network
had a great reputation and and Elijah was on board.

(29:27):
We've already had some big name coast guest stars in
season one, and there he was. I walked into the
writer's room and I said, Robin Williams wants to be
in our show. And David Zuckerman, the show runner, he
was like number one, I was number two. He was
number one in America. He was he developed a family

(29:48):
guy and he you know, he you know, he got
the show up with us, and he said, he said, well,
we're already there's no characters for him. He looked at
the board he said. I was like, we've already developed
all the characters season too. I said, I repeat, Robin
Williams wants to be in a show. We found something
for him because he'd actually played a yard as a

(30:09):
cat and um and and we didn't have any character
like that. Um, so he just he played a therapist,
the doctor, head doctor for Alas's character. And I thought
he's not going to do it. He did it. And
you know, that was the easily the greatest um moment
I've had. I'd drive him to set that morning. I'm like,
I was, isn't the darker so early? We're going out
to um Gillette Ranch outside in Malibu. Came out there

(30:33):
and uh, and I was like, come, I want to
meet Robins. I guess that's like easy. And when I
meet him and and he was like I walked up
saw him and went up and I said, it's an honor.
He said, the honors mine. Okay, this is this is
crazy but the best. And you know, we got on
so well and and and his makeup artist who worked

(30:55):
in the twenty years. She said afterwards, like, when we
were there, he was only there for two days, and
um he I had spot a rare day off on
the second day, and he said to me, what are
you what are you gonna do when your day off?
Because he must have read that I had a day open.
It was the day he was. I said, I'm coming
into what you act. He said, no, no, no no, no,
you need a break. You here working on a hard
you work. And I said, mate, I said, I'd paid
to see, like I'm coming in to see right about that.

(31:20):
And you know, we had some great lunches together, and
and his makeup artus the twenty years and close friends
said that he never in his in her experience, had
lunch outside of his trailer with other people, and in
most two days he sat with a large and I
and we spoke for a good length of time and
got very close. I was actually developing a project for
him when you know, I have no idea. It was

(31:42):
very man one of these ever. Yeah, let's get into
that high five guys. You know, listen, I want to
say this. You know, first of all, Robin, Robin, you know,
and you having the ability to work with them. I
think it was perfect for you, you know because in
my eyes More Committy is one of my favorite shows.
To Jason, yeah, you know, and then you having the

(32:03):
opportunity to do it, and and honestly, um, you know,
I want to tell you that you know, the the
journey that we have um to to you know, we
we always don't understand it as entertainers are people that work,
you know, Um in our field is who you're gonna
end up working with next And and for for me,
you know, I think that would be like one of

(32:23):
the top of the told him Pole things. You know.
Robin Williams, you know, touched so many, so many, so
many lives him love him still to be able to
work work next to work next to him is is
something special. And for you and Wilfred, you know, because
I understand there's a separation that you have to sit

(32:44):
there and actually almost used as like there's Blue on
the show, there's Christopher right at work, and then there's Chris,
Chris right at home, you know, And I can understand
it as as an artist, a father, a parent, you know, um,
you've got asshole as well. Then if we're gonna throw
all the names in much Okay, well, thank you, hold
on back to reality. Hey, I know that name too.

(33:05):
Somebody called me yet there he is. Excuse me, but listen, Jason.
This is part of my favorite part of the show,
which is called the High five. So where we asked
you five questions about your cannabis experiences. Are you ready, sir? Yeah?
Question number one? How old were you the first time
you smoked? And where did you get it? From? Fifteen?

(33:26):
My sister? Yeah, I was fifteen years old. What was
your sister's name? De bro? Where you guys at We're
in the backyard, you know, like she my sister was
sort of older than eight years really she was she
was like seven. My mom was fourteen and she was
seventeen at times, so fourteen and and uh and she
just had a joint and I just she says, try this.

(33:46):
And I hadn't even been drunk at that point. I'd
never even drunk alcohol, so it was hard before I'd
ever about drona. So this is in the backyard in Australia. Yeah,
I just because I'm just imagining. Was it like a
kola just looking to Hey, you know, Jason speaking of Australia.
I mean where where where you? Where are you from
in Australia? Melbourne? You said, Queensland, up in Queensland, up

(34:08):
in the southeast. You know, I did. I did a
tour there and I did. I performed at the Olympic
Park Center. Um, and then we took a hopper plane
over to Brizzie and did a show him Brizzie. Really, yeah,
Brazzi is a great place. I mean, it's a it's
a really nice place and I wish I could have
stayed there longer. Australia in general. Um, what is it

(34:30):
called Queen Queen's Corner or something like that. What is
it que Queensland. It's fun. That's a fun little downtown area.
It's been one of those things on my bucket list.
I want to get to. My little cousin, Angela Johnson, comedian,
she went and toured over there. She brought me back
this little turtle from my daughter, And every time we
clean out of stuffed animals, we can never get rid
of that dumb fucking turtle because it's from Australia. So

(34:54):
I have said in my house from Australia that I've
never been to your question number two at the High
Five with Jason again. Come see his passion, his performance
and his adorability as he four live as we will
all be there and you did such a great job
with the promo for G four Live. Check out his
website Wilfred CBD dot com. What is your favorite way

(35:14):
to use cannabis? Look? Just I still love smoking, you know,
just but just in a pipe. I just break it off.
I don't even chop it up. I really chop it up,
you know, I just break snap a bit off and
just put a straight in the pipe. And I mean
the moby smoking through a potato this last week. You know.
It's like I don't tend because little kids. I don't
tend to leave around um you know, bones or anything

(35:36):
like that. So I tend to just you know, um,
either have pipes that I eventually lose, and which is
a situation right now. So yeah, I'm actually smoking with
a potato at the moment. Understand what I've never heard
or some foil whatever works, right, the kids are gonna
eat a little potato right, Question number question number three

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of the High Five, Craziest place You've ever you was
or smoked cannabis? Well, crazy look, remember that, like when
I was really like just coolly discovering, really loving cannabis,
falling in love with it. And I often described my
relationship with cannabis has been a spiritual relationship. When I
was really tapping into it and with a great I

(36:19):
said girlfriend, but she was a buddy, you know, and
we would get high together all the time. And one
day we just said, hey, you know, it would be great.
I'd love to get high and like a train a caboost,
you know, like a train a k boost, you know.
And we're like, oh, yeah, it had been great, and
it was a random thought. So well, there's a train
station not that far away. So we walked down of

(36:39):
this train station and we found these train yards and
seeing this out in the middle of nowhere is a red,
bloody caboost, and it was like and we went out
there and we got it, and the door was opened,
and we climbed up and closed the door and we
sat in this this caboost and this this train wagon
and we just got so high in there. At one
point we heard sort of footsteps on the rocks walking past.

(37:03):
It was such an exciting moment, you know. So it
wasn't necessarily that crazy, but it was you know, we
weren't supposed to be in the train yards and yeah,
like the idea that we had this image for ka boost,
I went and found a caboose and hard and kaboots.
That's just so great. What a great story to pull
out of your asset that that's right there. I was
with you too, dude. Not only that, I got like
something in my sock from walking towards it, like you

(37:24):
know what I mean, I'm walking bushes like in my
head like I'm pulling something out of my sock right now.
This is just stuck in good memory. It was a
wonderful story right there, Jay, What did your go too much?
He's after you get high? Uh yeah, hot time, that's hot,
spicy um. I forget the names from the red they're
always different rooms the Cheetos. They're super red, flaming hot Cheetos.

(37:48):
Yeah yeah, because we don't have them in Australia, right,
So it's just that kind of flaming heart that they
called taki cheas talkies. My kids love talkies, read your
taste buds. But yeah, I loved get and uh and
and heartening my sure sure question number five of the
High five. If you could smoke cannabis with anyone dead

(38:10):
or alive, who would it be? And why I gotta say, Jesus, Yes,
I love it. Jesus. I mean like I don't know,
like I just have so many questions, would never end.
And it's just like he's supposed to be that you know,
well from you know, the coolest guy that ever lived,
the coolest dog ever. Remember that Spoken Words song was

(38:32):
like Jesus was so cool. He was he was funny
than any comedian. He was like he he could play
a guitar better than any rock star. He was. He
just was so cool. I remember hearing that it was
such a cool song of the nineties, and and yeah,
I just think that it would be great to just
get to the bottom of who he is what he is. Yeah,
I mean, there's only been one guy that that's done
everything he did from a carpenter to the Lord and shaviers.

(38:55):
I mean, let's go put him on the shelf. I'm good,
I'll take him to number one service. Dude. I'm with you,
j There's so many people. The crazy part about that
is it's so funny to think we just heard somebody
else recently say that, and I don't know why. But
this past weekend I was in Washington, D C. And
I was thinking of so many great people that have

(39:15):
been through there, and I literally thought of this question,
like pondered it, going there's so many people here in
these statues and monuments that I want to smoke with
and talk to and just chill. But I went back
to Jesus. I think he's got to take the recently. Yes,

(39:37):
beautiful place. It is so much history. Yeah, so that's
what I'm saying some of my points. I was just
thinking that and I literally did exactly what you said
if I went to Jesus route again, and I'm with you,
is my point. I've been very Braham second. Second. Right,
that's what I'm saying, thinking, I'm like, dude, you'd be
one of those ones that I wanted to do with.
I'm not gonna lie. You're giving Jesus a run for

(39:59):
his money. But they never meet your heroes. So and
you know, and I've met it. I remember having met
a hero on nine years ago. It wasn't that a
great experience. Not mentioned any names was Gene Simmons. But
you know, like I, you know, they say never meet
your heroes. I'd hate. I'd hate to meet Jesus and
then and be disappointed. He treats you funny because you're
both from across the pint. Isn't he from across the
pint as well? Gene Simmons, you know he's local, he's

(40:22):
he's from kids, he's holy great, Yeah we're not well. Look,
you know, I when I was, you know, a kid,
I had literally made my walls paste and covered with roof,
you know, even in the ceiling was covered, and kiss
posters everywhere you go, So you know, I had a
top junity where I was backstage years ago at a

(40:44):
Kiss conserin Australia. They said it was going to be
their last concert ever. Turned out to be, like many men,
they're still going still. Last week he was backstage and
before cell phones and you know, and I had an
automatic camera and I just was so I sweat he
was he was a line by himself in the full
kid and I was backstage. We got through with my

(41:04):
sister who got me higher the first time she was
managing bands and ship. She got me there and I'm
like so scared, heart pounding, I'm like, ask him for
a photo. I mean I just want a photo with
him or of him. I didn't care. I'm like, what
if he says no, What if he says no? Like
you had to be devastated, And I went uptil he
can't say when I went up and asked him and

(41:25):
he said no, and then uh and then he and
then and then moments later he was there taking a
bunch of photos with hot chicks. You know. So it
was kind of like it was just you know, it
was it was personal. Yeah. I made a decision then
because Jason, he even said, Jason Gain before he knew
who you were. He goes, fuck you, Jason Gab, Yeah, yeah,
you're not hot enough. Did so Jesson you know who

(41:46):
you know, you know who was printing just remembered the
fucking dude from arrestment Steve Tyler. Yeah he was. He was,
because well, well will we did this thing just before
Wilford came out and Elijah I were doing this guest spot,
like this tiny spot on American Idol and uh, and
we're back to stage. It's right. I remember seeing you

(42:07):
on there. I see the little cameos thing and we're backstage,
and you know, I was had the anxiety and my
heart was pounding and stuff and speak people around there. No,
I wasn't, and I was never an arresting fan to
be you know, full honest, I'm not a lot of
people love him. I'm not bagging them as a fan.
But yeah, he he's there and he turned to me.
I was that I was as Wilford, and he just went,
come on, man, you know, with all these fathers and

(42:29):
the list of the ship afterwards art, you know, I
wasn't in a position to kind of like I wasn't
feeling brave enough to come back then, and I wasn't
expecting that either from a fellow performer to kind of
like shoot on me like that just before I went
out there. But yeah, he did, he did, so I
kind of kind of owe him one. You know, Yeah,
let's let's throw against him. That's let's see that is

(42:49):
at performer like we work. We're working, dude, it is. Yeah.
If I haven't, if I meet him again, I will
say something about you know, you know, I'm never I'm
never backward and coming forward. It's just at that moment
it kind of took me by surprise. I was on
the side of the stage and just about to go
up you don't like that, Yeah, just about to go up,
like who does that? You know, it's it's the way
you don't have enough success, like you don't have enough

(43:10):
Yeah on a clown. Yeah I am a clown. You
know I'm proud to be a clown. Yeah clown. Yeah. Sorry,
I'm gonna go make people smile and laugh right now.
That love this. You look yourself in the mirror with
your feathers and get up. I mean your clown yourself.
I mean that's use what you're doing, that's what you are.
But what you shot another clown? You know, I would
have just said, I would have just said, uh, you

(43:30):
know you had you had a great run while you
while you last it. But I have a Wilfred and
just do I would have just said a lot of
things toon. But like looking back, you know these things
think things happen. Yeah, so I think with Jane Simmons
and Steve Tyler and and I get him in a
room together, maybe let's see what happens. So it's so
much like anything, And I'm like, and then anything we've

(43:54):
forgot before. I love Mark Twiston too. We're gonna see
it's gonna be at G four live, Yeah, live, right,
that's gonna be such a fun show. Yeah, always. I
really I nearly went up to the I nearly went
up to that thing. What I was saying, coming up
to the twenty thing up in San Francisco and coming
to a poto with coming to a farre with Mike,
I'm like, yeah, this is a bit difficult. But I

(44:15):
wish I had him because I saw the only on
his way back to Florida probably would have been the
flore with him. Well, I probably wouldn't have been as
wilverard at the time, but when he when he had that,
he's on the flight recently. But oh yeah, yeah, we
saw that. I think the whole world got to see
that when that guy was honestly, you know, in my opinion, um,
you know he he deserved it, like you know, you know,
you can't get into another man's head. I mean, well,

(44:38):
you know, he here's the thing. As as Mike Tyson,
I almost feel like he trapped him into that, right,
like he did that on purpose. They knew it. People
come to you, you know, and but and you know
he I saw it from the photos of poos in
the lead up, and you can tell from Mike's space.
He's looking like, leave me alone, dude, like you just
leave me alone. Well, he should have security there. They

(44:59):
should have took that lf for him. You know, I
would just if Wilfer could have pisted on him, bid
him something, backed him up with getting length of Mark
Jason for the security dog. You know, it's gonna be
great to see you out there in Vegas. So when
you see us come up and say Hi, don'tnock like

(45:21):
a big dogs. Don't be the big dog. I'll run
up and chackle you, Jason. I swear to God right
up and so yeah, like hell you said that, don't
be supposed to jump on the screen. And if you're
a little shark man, I know that you come and
tackle me. They don't know what come back. You know
what I might. I think my boot's gonna be off
by then, so I might be able to do. It'll
be a slow come up. You know, I just had
ankle surgery. But when I get to you, it's still

(45:43):
plus coming out. I think we should just do the
leg lift on Tyson and see if he punches you.
You know, just lift the leg. We're gonna do the
leg gimp. Everyone's just cannabis and medicated up. That's all.
We're up there, just a bunch of gimps at G
four live. And you if you don't go, you don't grow. Yes,
so Jason, they for joining us. Is there anything that
we missed before we let you get on out of here?

(46:03):
Did you get all the five out? Did you get
all the questions? Yes? We Dideah, yeah, you said Jesus
question number five us if you could smoke with anyone
dead or alive, who would it be? Well, well, guys,
you know, it's it's great um seeing you again. And yeah,
I'm really excited about G four. I haven't been one's
gonna go on, you know, like Wilford's actually gonna be
on the stage with a microphone in his hand saying

(46:25):
some funny ship, you know. And I was gonna be
doing that actually before the pandemic happened, because I was
just kind of like, you know what I saw. I
saw Tommy Chong still this image of Tommy Chong um
on a at a hard Times cannabis cup and he
was sitting on a king's throne and they can't put
a crown in his head. And I just looked at
that and I thought one day that's gonna be Wilfred.

(46:48):
You know, I want I want to, I want to
get up there, right, So I want to. And you know,
I'm a live performer from years ago like comedy. So
I'm just like, okay, it's time to people. For years
say you know what, you gonna stand up comedy. Mostly
people were going to stand up comedy like Robin Williams
do stand up and then they do television. For me,
I was lucky. I've got the television first. I never
did the stand up But now I'm really excited about

(47:08):
it and I'm working on. I've got some great material
and working on. So I'm really looking forward to, you know,
get giving people that Wilford experience and just go ahead
and drove driving cannabis, talk one on one and that.
But I'd love to have you Wilfred on the show.
Uh the whole dog, Yeah, the dog. If he see
I just say, I'm the fantasy Cannabis. Wilfred is the

(47:29):
owner operator. Yeah right, he has he thinks he's running
the show. And he's got a rough gig, rough rough
he gets all the glory, you know, he gets right,
He's like nobody knows how rough. Jason, how did you
get hiped up with G four life? How did that
even come about for you? Well, a couple of years ago.

(47:52):
I think they first reached out to me and about
doing something back then. And then it's just, you know,
pandemic happened, and and I was I was planning to
do a bunch of you know, stand up stuff and
get it. We're getting a lot of performing again, and
then that just sort of put the stops on that. So, um, yeah,
I came circled. Um, Tim you know from G four

(48:12):
just reached out to me and and I said, yeah,
I think we almost did this couple of years ago.
So I was like, let's let's do it. So now
I'm kind of going on Vegas fantastic. It's gonna be
a great show Man Resources World, the twelve through the
four fifteen show something like that, twelve to the fourteen,
twelve to four four live at the bud Tender Awards.

(48:33):
It's gonna be an amazing place. If you don't go,
you don't grow. Sincerely, guys and listen, I just want
to say that Wilfred, it's been great having on the
show and Jason again, it's been great having you on
the show. I gotta give it both to you, guys,
because Wilfred, you know, is its own character and it
deserves its own credit. And Jason, you do too. Man,
you're a fantastic, fantastic person there. Uh, and we want

(48:55):
to thank you for joining the show well before we leave,
because I'd like to ask him this, Jason, have you
ever Wilfred licking himself or scratching himself inappropriately? I see
him doing something with my wife one night that I
wasn't real happy about. Oh no, those dogs can do that, then, motherfucker.
Because Bears locked up in Silma. Oh he locked up

(49:17):
in a Bears and Bears in a stories facility in Silma.
Get your nose out of their boy, I gotta get
I gotta get Bear out of there. Uh, but I don't.
We're gonna go, but it's a quick my story. Bear
the Bear character, he's disgusting. You know, he's been seemed
to staying Teddy Bear from him from the TV series.
And when it was all done, they said, Jason, whatever,

(49:38):
what props do you want? What even is do you want?
And you want Bear? Right? Said? I don't want to Bear.
I just had a son who baby, beautiful bears. I
don't want my kids playing with that disgusting thing. To
give him to Elijah. Elijah came to me, he said,
is it true you don't want Bear? You gonna have
a Bear? I said, no, no no, no, I don't want
you have him, mate, you have him like you you know? Okay,
So he took Bear. I had a bunch of other
men's bilia. And then when wilf was finished, spoker alert um,

(50:01):
we had a wake for Wilfrid right, So it was
like instead of the rat party had to wake at
my house and it's all where a funeral like, and
the woman's black. And Elijah drove to the wake with
Bear in the passenger seat. And so if you can
imagine if you're driving along in l A, if you
had a scene Elijah driving on the four or five
dresses back soon with with Bear in the passenger seat. There,
so he brings Bear to the to my plate. What

(50:23):
the wag on everything? And when Elijah left, he left
a bit earlier like he always does, and he said, look,
I'm trying to leave, but I'm gonna leave Bear here.
I can't take Bear while a party is still doing
so I'll get there next time I see it. I
haven't seen Alija since right three years later. So Bear
it was the you know the kid that that the
parents are the divorced parents are arguing about who doesn't

(50:46):
want him? Right, So the Bear is I'm glad I've
got Bear now house. But is he still at the house.
He's in the story. Similar, Yeah, it's similar. That's I
can't wait to hang out with you. Better look forward
to it. Yeah, I'm looking forward to it, you guys,
Thanks so much. Well, there it is, guys. It's Cannabis
Talk one on one. And remember this, If no one

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