July 3, 2025 • 37 mins
MR. #STFU, aka Little Brother of the Pot Brothers at Law Marc Wasserman, comes to talk about the movie Herbie. This Vietnam vet story is amazing. Produced by Ford Austin, this movie is creating a serious buzz at the movie festivals and winning awards. BEST ACTOR! Plus, Sheldon Cooper from the Cannabis Awards, All Access USA, and Michael from the Canna Culture Awards join the show.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Cannabis Talk one on one with Blue and
Joe Grandie in the world's number one source for everything cannabis.
Thank you Mark Wasserman for coming in today. I mean,
geez man, this is such a new intro to the
show where I feel like I have to just describe
this and give everybody a description of what's going on,
because this is the first time Mark, we're in Las
Vegas together. Yes, and you're going to be on as
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a guest for this big acting So as we do
this intro, Mark, it's hard not to just do it
normal with you. So know that it's hard to do.
Do you understand that? And you understand that we have
Sheldon Cooper here. Yes, I know, you know who Cooper
is right from this USA tex I want.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
To say at one of the first Vegas cannabis years
and years ago. Yes I know, I know. So get
it out of the way, Blues not here today.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
He's missing this first experience that we take over the
iHeart Studios in Las Vegas and we finally found a
new home. And as we found a new home in
Las Vegas to start doing our shows and talk cannabis
stuff and acting stuff and just smoke and talk and whatever.
I got to remind everybody about Sheldon Cooper's Cannabis Awards
(01:17):
that's coming up September twenty eighth. It's gonna be the
first ever show on a Sunday, so that's gonna be big.
Tell us about that, Sheldon real quick.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
So right when you leave church, make sure you come
from two to ten pm to the Cannabis Awards. Pretty
much club's going.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Down, Yes it is. That's gonna be a beautiful Sunday.
And we have Michael from Alternative Culture Awards that's going
down July twenty fourth, eight pm. That's always a great event. Michael,
make sure you get yourself on that camera looking so
sexy and fly right there. Yes, he's our technical director. Yes,
doing it real big today. Thank you so much to
(01:57):
Michael for real doing everything you do. If you need
me to do your technical director, I want to do
your show as well. And before I get into the
big long intro for you, Mark, we have your long
last friend, long lost friend, producer director rider, just your
long buddy. Since how old was it like.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
Eight years old? Well?
Speaker 2 (02:18):
I was eight, I was seven, Damn.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Dave Cohen, I mean another lawyer buddy that you look
at and you go, how did two lawyers come from
eight year old friendships? That's kind of weird. I don't
got any eight year old friend, Sheldon that we're both
the only thing I have in common with an eight
year old friend is that we've both been to jail.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
You know what we used to do at eight years old.
We played with hot wheels and listened to Bill Cosby
comedy records.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Those are some good ones. I like the Bill Cosby,
but the Eddie Murphy and the Richard.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Proter just a little better. We were devastated, and we
know we're going.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
To get through some stories about you guys and how
you grew up. So Dave, I definitely want you to
get to thinking about when Mark got the acting bug.
But today, Mark, you're such a great friend of mine.
You're a business partner, you're a brother. You've been a writer,
you're an actor. You've been a dancer, a filmmaker, a stripper,
a tea bagger. I mean, Mark Washerman is a renaissance man,
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is evidenced by his extensive array of experiences and diverse
influences on his style. I mean, look at the way
he dresses for God's sakes. He attended Whitney High School
out there in beautiful California, and of course that was
one of the highest ranking high schools in the country. Now,
the subject of the best selling book School of Dreams.
Well that was Mark right there, with his own dreams
(03:44):
of becoming to what an actor a filmmaker. Well Mark
did that, and not only did he do more than that,
he was the president of his high school drama club
and so much else. You've known him as a host
on Cannabis Talk one oh one with his brother with
the whole stf you. Well, we're gonna STFU about that
and talk about the acting, not debut. But my friend,
(04:07):
I'm so proud that Dave, you didn't produce this, But
I thought you did, you bastard. When you came in here,
I thought you were the producer of this. But our
other good friend that is not here today produced you,
Mark and made you look so terribly great because I
believe this character and the character's name is Herbie.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
No Bill Morgan, Herbie's the plant.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Sorry, you're right, I apologize year to God. I did,
and now that we talked about it intently, and you
know I did. But you're right the movies called Herbie
and Mark. You did a remarkable job, right, Like, how
did you like really come up with something going? You
(04:55):
did some work on this, I did about the character
and how much work you had to do to find
this character.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Well, so, so first I got a shout out as
you were mentioning my very very good friend Ford Austin,
who produced this movie and in fact he was the
actor playing the homeless Vet. They shot about a week's
worth of it, and he stopped production and told the
other producers that he thought this film which centers around
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a homeless vet who's at the end of his rope
and finds a broken down cannabis plant and nurtures that
plant back to life, and that cannabis then helps him survive,
and we know the problem with with with vets and
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their access to cannabis and all that stuff. And he
told these producers, I got a friend. He's you know,
he's part of the pop Brothers of Law and he
does he's all into this movement. But he's a great actor,
and I think he should do this. And so I
did a little screen test and they hired me, and
I spent about four months really researching and talking to
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I already knew a bunch of homeless vets, and we've
we've known vets in the industry from the weed to
weed for warriors and and so on and so forth.
That I was able to, you know, have serious discussions
about how they need to or want to access cannabis
and they're being forced with the opiates and the other
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pills and all that stuff. So so that part of
it was was kind of easy talking to people that
I knew and and interviewing different different vets. And then
when it comes to building the character, I really you
go from the inside out, because what's inside is more
important than the esthetics of the outside, which which is
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important and can be done with makeup and all sorts
of things. But I didn't I don't believe in that.
I believe in going in and becoming the character, growing
my hair out, growing a becoming a pain in the
ass at my house for my wife and kids to
live with. As I'm drowning in this character of a
homeless vet and bringing it home every day. And you know,
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when you look at yourself in the mirror after two
or three months and you've grown a beard and your
hair's grown out, and you know, you don't shower every day,
and you do those the little things, you become this
other person, you know, as an actor. And and I
do incorporate some of some method acting and in the
things that I do when I prepare for a character.
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But I think it's it's important so that the audience
can get in touch with who this character is. And
and I took it very serious because of what the
movie was trying to say, and it's exploration into the
problem that we have in this country and the way
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they treat vets and the way they really don't care
about their medical treatment and want to force all the
opiates and all that stuff which we know is not working,
and being able to access cannabis and showing you know
how it can help that. It just it just took
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over when I decided to do it, and it was
a wonderful experience.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Ford Austin produced a wonderful film because, like I said,
watching you, you got so deep into the character. I
tripped out on how well you cry, how much you
show emotions, and it's just overwhelming to watch a friend
of yours do so well. I mean, you just you
always think you could do something good, and we always
joke with each other. But when we see each other's
(08:48):
craft and then you win an award, like talk about
the award you wont well.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
So so let me let me let me throw out
a little list here of a war and acceptances that
Herbie has had, whether it's an acting award, producing directing.
We've been accepted and these awards have gone out. The
Art House Festival of Beverly Hills, Palm Beach Shorts in Florida,
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Brussels World Film Festival, Rio de Janeiro World Film Festival,
Philadelphia International Filmmaker Awards, Bangkok Movie Awards, Bear Bones International
Film Festival, Culver City Film Festival, New York Shorts Award,
Tokyo International. And it's still being accepted across the world
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at other film festivals that it's being submitted to. So
when you get that kind of recognition even at small
film festival wherever it is, and people sending messages, especially vets,
oh wow that was you know that was I relate
to that. I know somebody who went through that. I
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went through that. And when we were filming this thing,
part of it was filmed right in downtown Oklahoma City
and we had drones going over taking shots, and the
director would say, okay, just you know, go and I
would walk in the middle of downtown and I was
in character, and people gave me money, people turned away
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from me. A little girl asked her mom, can we
give this man a few bucks? Because I had a
little you know, ten that I was, you know, holding out,
and and but there were plenty of people who you know,
just were scared, Wow, take one look at you like, what,
well we better, we better avoid this person, you know.
And all the money that I collected, I would I
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ended up giving to other homeless people that were out there.
And so we we we shot some of that stuff
just like in real time, uh, just me going out
and and interacting with real, real people. And that was
that was a great experience to learn that. You know,
it's just it's sad. It's sad because there's people dealing
with that and you never know from one person to
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the next how they're gonna react, and they're either gonna
treat you like a person or or some kind of animal. Actually,
So you know, that's what I got to you know, that's.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
A real issue here too, Mark, and that we all
face and see which is the epidemic of what their
veterans have to go through, whether it be the you know, pills,
the harder drugs, and seeing you play a character like that,
it just breaks my heart that some people won't get help,
can't get help, I mean playing that role, Mark, what
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do you see differently?
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Gotcha? Well, when you're dealing with like my character dealt
with getting beat up by vagrants and thrown in a dumpster, right,
and that's that's pretty much how it starts. And he's
he's in a dumpster, trash, just covered in ship and
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it's like that's the how how much lower can you get?
And knowing that you know that's there, there are people
out there that that's what they're dealing with. You know,
it's a it's a hard truth and it was very
it was uncomfortable for me, you know, acting right, you're
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you're acting, you're you know, as actors we say, you know,
we're playing. We're in the playground where we're getting to
do all this stuff and get in touch with emotions
that that that other people have to deal with. And
that particular scene when I was in the dumpster, I
was ultimately thinking about my family and like Wow, what
if something happened in my life and this this is
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where I ended up for what? No, you know, through
no fault of my own, because it's it's not that
person's fault. A lot of time. I mean, of course,
there there are people who who make choices and and
and make bad decisions. But but there are people that
through no fault of their own and whatever life threw
at them, especially Vets who went to war and did
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unspeakable things and then they don't get taken care of afterwards.
I mean, it's it's it really opened my eyes to
what those people have to deal with, and it's sad.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
Yeah, that's really tough too, you know, because yeah, we
see it all time, especially in Vegas around the world,
in l A too, Cali. You know, thousands of people
just left on the street and like you know, just.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
One dollar, a penny, a quarter, anything, and then people
just keep on walking.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
You're like, no, literally, I just need anything, Like they
just keep on walking, like no, but I really need this,
you guys. And some people just don't give a shit, you.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Know, And a lot of people think, well, you did
this to yourself, are you just gonna buy drugs with it?
Speaker 4 (13:55):
You know that's what I'm actually hungry.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
You know, it's a tough call either way. You played
a tough role right there, Marking, And I think it's
a cool to finally bring you on to talk about
your acting because we have a good friend of yours, Dave.
You guys go back to like eight years old. So
I want to talk about Dave. When did you know
that Mark was flamboyant like that?
Speaker 4 (14:22):
That was probably the first day. I mean, like, what
was it? Was it his shoes?
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Was it the feather in his hat?
Speaker 4 (14:28):
Like? What was it that? Oh, it's that face.
Speaker 5 (14:33):
You look at that face and you just know immediately
we were I was seven years old, he was eight
years old.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
We met in class.
Speaker 5 (14:40):
We met in all right, we met.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
In no way.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Yes, hold on sing a song besides Fiddler on the Roof.
Come on, give me one of them, because I'll give
you a good one from Hebrews.
Speaker 5 (14:58):
Mark, that's all you, because he's a singer.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
To give me one together that you guys learned, Oh
you know that.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
You know, every every Friday night Tallnoy was Hello, Hey,
NewME cale lomu sh.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
Kid, but mist the hole shot baby.
Speaker 5 (15:35):
Got through that We would go get freshman's and see
if there was the other you know, seven and eight
year old girls that were to.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
The hotel, to the theg and you guys do the
if I was a rich man is a favorite. I
actually I sang that to my dad on his deathbed,
hours before he died.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Are you serious?
Speaker 4 (16:03):
I did?
Speaker 2 (16:04):
I did a whole musical deal for him if I
as he was waiting for my brother Mike to fly
in from Callcu, Where's where's my son? Mike?
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Kay?
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Let me sing you another song? And I would sing
him something and then I would finish and he's like, Okay,
now where's Mike?
Speaker 4 (16:20):
Let me sing you one more?
Speaker 2 (16:22):
And I did like four songs to so it have
it on video. Do the whole thing. God rest.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
In my office.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
And you interviewed them. We interviewed them.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
We have that such a good time with that man.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
We digress.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
So I gotta ask you, Dave, what's a good story
about our good old friend Mark Washerman where he was
acting and did something funny as a kid, or just
a good embarrassing morderline story, Because for me, I get
the off limits because he knows that I can't bring
up ship that's like to the off limits. But lord knows,
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we all know some things on Mark that can still
take it to the limit. So now that we're talking
about him as his acting career, and you know, as
now we get to embarrass the actor. So Dave Man,
I just have at it.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
It was like before twenties or after.
Speaker 5 (17:19):
You know, that's so many things are rolling around. I
just it's hard to well, here's one story. So this
is we were not kids that we had. We had
almost kind of grown up. Well Mark never really grows up,
but we had kind of we had graduated law school
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and we you know, we were kind of trying to
find our way, and so we had a place we said, hey,
why don't we get a place together and we would
Our favorite thing was to throw parties and have whoever.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
We could get over there guys.
Speaker 5 (17:56):
And so we had a small get together one night
and there was some random girls from the local community.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
College where we were going, and they were there, and so,
you know, this is way back.
Speaker 5 (18:09):
We were in our twenties, I guess maybe our late
late twenties, and you know, so everybody's making out with everybody,
and so these girls that Mark wants to make out with,
by the way, let me just prefice girls.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
This is way before he met his wife.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Jes.
Speaker 5 (18:33):
So we're we're just kind of sitting around and drinking
and got the music on and and girls are making out,
and the girls are this and that and these girls.
This one girl says to Mark, says, I will make
out with you if you make out with Dave.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
Okay, so.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
I know Mark, so I wouldn't.
Speaker 5 (19:02):
I've never seen a guy jump up so fast and
make a beeline for his best friend. And he gets
his face into my face. Fortunately, my arms were long
enough to go round his head and put my palm
on his mouth right before he tries to go.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
Make out with me. So he's making.
Speaker 5 (19:26):
So I get his tongue in the palm of my hand,
and the girls are behind him. No, that doesn't count.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
That doesn't count.
Speaker 5 (19:34):
And I finally I was able to push him off
and it didn't happen. He was so excited about making
out with me so that he could and it wasn't me.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
I mean, look, I did both the girls.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
I don't know what. That's the old school magic. Try
boy boy.
Speaker 5 (19:54):
He excited about making out with me for just a chance,
because you know they were wine.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
But just the chance that there was possibility.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
It was worth it.
Speaker 5 (20:06):
But I will say that that is that was his
m O. I mean, and he just wanted her to Yeah,
he just wanted to get in on the action.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Yeah, Mark, I love that you just get to finally
shine in the acting realm, right, because you get so
much court, you get so many people talking to you
about yeah s GF you ba ba ba bah bah.
And now to sit here and say you're being recognized
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for a character storring, Mark Washerman, your name is right
there in letters behind mister Sheldon. And I look at
that and I go not only a Sheldon on Cannabis
talk one on one the iHeart Studios in Vegas. But Mark,
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your serious IMDV is growing?
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Brother, Yes, yes, And you know I haven't looked at that.
It's it's been a couple of years now since uh
since I shot that, and uh.
Speaker 5 (21:13):
You know, can I just say I'm gonna I'm gonna
jump in on his acting in that in that role.
It's hard for me, uh to look at my friend
Mark and see him as these characters because he plays
because you know, he's my friend, I know him, you know,
And this is one of those roles where I was
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watching him, especially in that dumpster scene, and I'm saying, wow,
I'm I kind of forgot that he was. I just
saw the character and it's not the first time, but
that was really the best time.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
Honestly, doesn't look like you at all. You would never
even know.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
I love it that I've I've done a lot of
movies where I've been accused of that's not you.
Speaker 4 (21:57):
But your plant looks like right on that.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
Plan.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Oh yeah, that was real. They had a couple of
They had a couple of them on set from day
to day.
Speaker 5 (22:09):
So sorry, I just want to say one more thing
on that. A lot of times the characters, because you know,
we write a lot of our own stuff, and you know,
he he writes characters and so do I that kind
of fit his own personality, and so he oftentimes find
that he's kind of playing himself. But this, not in
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this one, not in Herbie, This was a complete departure, and.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
I would agree mark this right here was something that
is completely out of your box to where I mean,
you're used to being on the fucking whatever show from
MTV that you that was the big win, and you
play yourself more than you play a real character, right.
I mean, yes, you've gained some weight and played a
character here and there.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
But that was an attorney. It was exactly what in
the in the other movies. So on Amazon you can
find a movie called Commute, which is a comedy when
there is no fast lane. And God in that movie
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is played by Tom Sizemore. Wow, thank you. We rest
in peace, Tom Sizemore, we got him. That's a whole
other that's a whole other story that maybe we'll talk
about in a minute. When we were shooting Tom Sizemore
and Commute, but I play an attorney who's driving from
Orange County to LA and it's like ninety percent of
the movies in the car. And then we did a
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movie called Falling Down Again playing an attorney who causes
the death of his young son, and that was the movie.
I gained fifty pounds and lost it for this stuff.
But I was playing attorneys. I wrote those movies, and
as Dave said, when I write stuff, I'm drawing from
my own experience. You know. One of the first films
we worked on, in the first play that we ever did,
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called Terminal, was about a guy who was dying of
a terminal disease. I had meningitis when I was eighteen
and almost died from it, and I wrote about my
experience and like what, you know, I'm going to die.
I want to do these ten different things. And so,
like you said, a lot of what I write is
drawing from my own personal experiences. But this but Herbie
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written by somebody else. You know, I'm not a homeless fan.
I've you know, never experienced.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Any of that.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
So being able to dive into the exploration of a
character like that was really gratifying for me.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
How do you think cannabis played a part in all this?
I mean, you carried a plant as part of the movie.
I get that part, But talk about the other elements
of it for yourself in personal.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Well so, so, you know, for the character being able
to grow his own medicine and use it for all
the medicinal purposes, that was just something very important that
needed to need it to be portrayed like a personal relationship, absolutely,
you know. And and in between takes, as I'm smoking
(25:08):
joints and vapes and needing edibles, it was just perfect
environment for me, you know, because I need my meds
for my own reasons and to get me through. You know,
a couple of times, what the direction are you mean? Okay?
Are you okay? You can be able to Yeah, go
say action, Let's go. You know it doesn't I'm not
getting I think I've said this to you before, Joe,
(25:30):
and you've probably been there on occasion. I think I'm stoned.
You know how many times have you heard me say that?
And after like what you know, eighty two hours of
eighty two hours of going and doing what we're doing
and smoking and do this.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
A couple I've never heard showed them.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Yeah, because not we're medicating. We're medicating where you know,
if I wasn't medicating right now, I'd be bouncing off
the walls. You know, we need it for our own,
our own reasons.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
So it's funny because the way I see you use it, Mark,
and then the way I see you use it, Sheldon,
or like like you're an extensive, excessive like every other
minute second, Mark Washerman needs it. You, on the other hand,
prefer a nice bong rip. You're in there sporadically a
(26:21):
joint maybe, yeah, but you're not a I need to
smoke all the time, but you do need to smoke, but.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
Not need you wear exactly.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
I used to have to smoke like every two seconds,
but then you get to a point. I took like
a month off from smoking and drinking, and whenever I
came back, I was like, you know what, I don't
have to smoke all day long. I'm just gonna do
a bong rip chill for like thirty minutes an hour
or so, and I'll just take another one. And dude,
it's crazy with how much I've cut back on smoking
(26:56):
from when I used to, say, back in my high
school or college, you know, right, but it actually feels
a lot better, Not like say blunt, it's all the
tobacco and then taking a break and actually just doing
glass or a joint feels so much better.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
Bro, it really does.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
Mark.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
What do you do more of?
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Well, so for me, it's all about time. What when
do I have time to do it? What do I
What am I doing from one day? You know, I
could go a whole day and I haven't smoked anything,
just because I'm at the gym in the morning with
my son, and then I gotta go to court all
day and then now I'm picking them up and doing basketball.
(27:35):
So it's you know, in between all that, if I
can if I can get a dab in, if I
can stick my vape in there and get a hit. Great.
When I go away like this on a trip, I'm out,
I'm smoking. I'm smoking NonStop. Yeah, you know, we do
those conventions. You know, we're gonna be back out here
for Champs in July. I will be on the floor,
(27:59):
We'll be out side in the smoking area. I'll be smoking,
you know, all day, every day, you know. So it's
it's for me. If it's it's the the opportunity. If
I have the opportunity, I will chain smoke.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
But if I don't, then you know, it doesn't ruin
my day. I'm not I'm not tweaking out or or
or freaking out because it's like no, and I realized,
oh jeez, it's like I've been through the whole day.
I haven't even had yet. Now I'll go get one
or you know, I'll throw some edibles and stuff like that.
So it's it's for me. It's more about when am
I able to and what's accessible.
Speaker 4 (28:35):
And are perfect for that. Yeah, you're just on the road.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
You don't only have time, you know, it's even at
a concert, you can't really twist one up or just smow.
Speaker 4 (28:43):
It's not allowed. But just a little vape or edible
it everywhere.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
I think a lot of shows now too, they're just
gotta be so it's got to be so much better
for people to be like, oh my god, I could
just hit this babe, pan, I don't have to smoke
a joint.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
We was talking about the Snoop Dogg show. We did,
you know, we did that? So it was at the
It was at Kevin Hart's studio out in wherever that
was in the valley, And we got a whole email
with rules when you get on studio, no smoking pot
no like there was you know in the trailer you
can't smoke there. And our trailer was right next to
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Snoop's trailer, right, And we get there and they're walking
us into the trailer and I smell it and I'm like,
how can And I've got the print out and I
go this says we can't smoke and we're get in
trouble and it says all this stuff. And the assistant
director who was walking us out, he goes, oh, I
don't worry about that, right, yuys, you're okay, all right, cool,
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And so we were we were in our trailers smoking
up a storm while Snoop was in the trailer next
door smoking up. So it's just all who are you
with and who's calling the shots?
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Yeah, well, you know, Mark, I think it's appropriate for
you to show off and for to Michael's Sheldon and
of course your buddy Dave, who have you been knowing
since you've been eight years old. But your slam poem,
I mean, I know we're not talking about the pop
brothers at law, but you've done some stuff that has
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really shined. And let your brother write off your coattails, right,
because as he thinks it's the dumbest thing ever, there's
something there that debuts your acting fucking skills that are
just phenomenal, and you're writing skills that are awesome.
Speaker 5 (30:34):
Well, let me jump in for a second, because yes,
his ability to write poetry, it's amazing to me. And
he comes up with it like almost instantly, it just
comes out.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
He's wrote me several love letters.
Speaker 5 (30:49):
He's able to, you know, rattle off this slam poem
about at cannabis.
Speaker 4 (30:56):
But let me tell you, as far as acting goes,
he was able to memorize.
Speaker 5 (31:05):
Go ahead, I mean, well, I mean the raven oh,
and so.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
You watch that's the Edgar Allan Poe nineteen stands up poem.
Speaker 5 (31:18):
Absolutely memorized to the letter. And he sent me videos
of it, and I would watch, you know, I would say,
give him, no, it's here and there, you know, just
pronunciations and stuff. I was auditioning to play, auditioning to
pay right, and so he sends me this stuff and
I'm watching it as he's sending me video after video
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after video, and I see the improvement and I see
him evolving into Edgar Allen Poe the person as he's
reciting this poem. So when you talk about acting, so
the acting when he's reciting a poem that he's written,
especially about cannabis, I mean, that's just it just flows.
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It just flows because he believes it. But the acting
part comes from when he does something else like Edgar
Allan Poe.
Speaker 4 (32:12):
And that's not easy.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (32:14):
You see where the talent is.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
And I've seen where the talent is as well. The
way you've learned to become a radio host, the way
you learn to do.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
So many things I learned from the best.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
Yes, you have and I just want you to share
with all of us and those that are watching. Give
us the acting style in Las Vegas slam poem.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
You're putting me on. I don't even know the last
time I've done this exactly. I mean, see if I
still remember it.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
Let's come on there we go, get ready? Yeah, give
it to us.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
What's the name with the camera?
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Yeah, I think it's called I think it's.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
Called them my being detained in my free to Go?
Ladies and gentlemen, that's the name of it. Is this
my camera right here?
Speaker 1 (33:01):
All right?
Speaker 2 (33:02):
All right, all right? This is uh am I being detained?
Or am I Free to go? A slam poem by
the pop brothers at law? They're written by me. No
Am I being detained? Or am I free to go?
This is what to say, my lawyer tells me. So
the cops are out there doing a job. Sometimes they
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must contain a mob, a thankless job that saves many
lives at their home or worried children, husbands and wives.
But does that give them the right to stomp on
my rights? So we are here for you, the cannabis community,
to fight to let you know what's okay to just
shut the fuck up. When cops ask questions, you start with,
I'm not discussing my day, end with I invoke the fifties.
Ain't suggestions. These are words to live by, to memorize. See,
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it's not about the size of that CoP's gun, because
they want you to run so they could pull that
macho gun and shoot you for fleeing the scene. Some
cops are just plaining, mean, we must shut it off,
shut it down. Those feelings of anger that instantly come
around when that cop has to show his power and
his might without cause, without reason, and we know they're
not right. We must remain calm, keep the devil sleeping
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on the left shoulder. We must be cold, even colder.
Ice must float through your veins to shut that heat,
the blood that rushed your brain straight from your feet.
When that cop disrespected you cause you wouldn't tell him
what that smell was, and he excuses you of a
pot toui because he absolutely knows that you buzz. But see,
they can't tell, and they don't know only if you
tell them. So o, officer, I expoke to join a
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few hours ago. Officer, here's my medical wreck. Officer. I'm
a marijuana patient. We live in America prohibition still exists.
That CoP's gonna do whatever he's gonna do. Fifty to
fifty he arrests. You give us a chance to represent
you with a defense that's blazing. Let us show you
in court we're amazing. But we could only do that
if you listen to our tips and let me see
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you move your lips. You know the drill. When the
cops ask questions, we say, I'm not discussing my day.
Am I being detained? Or am I free to go?
I invoked the fifth and then you shut the fuck up.
It's all about what you're saying, what you do. We
have given you the script. We are telling you what
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to say. We are telling you what to do. We've
put your hands up in protection mode. But should you
take a shot to the jaw, we will be here
fighting for the cannabis community and all citizens because we
are the pop Brothers at law.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
And you know that's not what we were here to
day for.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
But Mark washing I remembered it.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
Show up and Mark. For those who haven't seen go
check out the movie Herbie. You can get it on Amazon.
You can get it, uh.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
Well no Amazon, you can get Commute and Falling down.
Herbie isn't available yet because it's still running the Film
Festival's circuit terminal. It's not there anymore. But commute and
falling down.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
And of course Dave Cohen, thank you for coming. Sheldon
Cooper from All Access USA. Tattoos and smokes in Las Vegas.
Where's the addresses for those?
Speaker 3 (36:09):
Oh yeah, twenty three hundred North Rainbow or if you're
by the airport, thirty one thirty East Sunset Row.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
Yep. And I was just out there for the grand
opening of that second location, hanging out. And the Cannabis
Awards is going down September twenty eighth. That's gonna be
the first Cannabis Awards on a Sunday.
Speaker 4 (36:28):
Yep, it's going down.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
You guys, make sure you're to church first exactly.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
And Mike Trump Culture Awards July twenty fourth, eight pm,
come talk about the event real quick. Please. Oh I
don't know what camera you had, what camera did you pick? Okay,
come into talk about it.
Speaker 6 (36:47):
It's your boy, Mike. We're here live in Las Vegas
at iHeartRadio.
Speaker 4 (36:51):
Come out.
Speaker 6 (36:52):
July twenty fourth, six pm. We're gonna be at the
Fremont Country Club doing a Buyer's B to B Wholesale
Network Night. It's gonna be awesome. And from eight to
whenever they decide to close, we're gonna be having Immortal Technique,
live music, Poison, pen Ronnie Lee spectacular. Stuff's gonna be great.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
Yes, so just tons of events always going down. Of course,
follow Cannabis Talk one on one for all the news
and more information Pop Brothers at Law letting you know,
shut the fuck up when cops ask questions. All that
says USA is putting it down like four flats every day. Baby.
You know how we do this in the town. It's
Cannabis Talk one on one. If nobody else loves you,
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we do know that
Welcome to Cannabis Talk one on one with Blue and
Joe Grandie in the world's number one source for everything cannabis.
Thank you Mark Wasserman for coming in today. I mean,
geez man, this is such a new intro to the
show where I feel like I have to just describe
this and give everybody a description of what's going on,
because this is the first time Mark, we're in Las
Vegas together. Yes, and you're going to be on as
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a guest for this big acting So as we do
this intro, Mark, it's hard not to just do it
normal with you. So know that it's hard to do.
Do you understand that? And you understand that we have
Sheldon Cooper here. Yes, I know, you know who Cooper
is right from this USA tex I want.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
To say at one of the first Vegas cannabis years
and years ago. Yes I know, I know. So get
it out of the way, Blues not here today.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
He's missing this first experience that we take over the
iHeart Studios in Las Vegas and we finally found a
new home. And as we found a new home in
Las Vegas to start doing our shows and talk cannabis
stuff and acting stuff and just smoke and talk and whatever.
I got to remind everybody about Sheldon Cooper's Cannabis Awards
(01:17):
that's coming up September twenty eighth. It's gonna be the
first ever show on a Sunday, so that's gonna be big.
Tell us about that, Sheldon real quick.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
So right when you leave church, make sure you come
from two to ten pm to the Cannabis Awards. Pretty
much club's going.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Down, Yes it is. That's gonna be a beautiful Sunday.
And we have Michael from Alternative Culture Awards that's going
down July twenty fourth, eight pm. That's always a great event. Michael,
make sure you get yourself on that camera looking so
sexy and fly right there. Yes, he's our technical director. Yes,
doing it real big today. Thank you so much to
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Michael for real doing everything you do. If you need
me to do your technical director, I want to do
your show as well. And before I get into the
big long intro for you, Mark, we have your long
last friend, long lost friend, producer director rider, just your
long buddy. Since how old was it like.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
Eight years old? Well?
Speaker 2 (02:18):
I was eight, I was seven, Damn.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Dave Cohen, I mean another lawyer buddy that you look
at and you go, how did two lawyers come from
eight year old friendships? That's kind of weird. I don't
got any eight year old friend, Sheldon that we're both
the only thing I have in common with an eight
year old friend is that we've both been to jail.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
You know what we used to do at eight years old.
We played with hot wheels and listened to Bill Cosby
comedy records.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Those are some good ones. I like the Bill Cosby,
but the Eddie Murphy and the Richard.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Proter just a little better. We were devastated, and we
know we're going.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
To get through some stories about you guys and how
you grew up. So Dave, I definitely want you to
get to thinking about when Mark got the acting bug.
But today, Mark, you're such a great friend of mine.
You're a business partner, you're a brother. You've been a writer,
you're an actor. You've been a dancer, a filmmaker, a stripper,
a tea bagger. I mean, Mark Washerman is a renaissance man,
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is evidenced by his extensive array of experiences and diverse
influences on his style. I mean, look at the way
he dresses for God's sakes. He attended Whitney High School
out there in beautiful California, and of course that was
one of the highest ranking high schools in the country. Now,
the subject of the best selling book School of Dreams.
Well that was Mark right there, with his own dreams
(03:44):
of becoming to what an actor a filmmaker. Well Mark
did that, and not only did he do more than that,
he was the president of his high school drama club
and so much else. You've known him as a host
on Cannabis Talk one oh one with his brother with
the whole stf you. Well, we're gonna STFU about that
and talk about the acting, not debut. But my friend,
(04:07):
I'm so proud that Dave, you didn't produce this, But
I thought you did, you bastard. When you came in here,
I thought you were the producer of this. But our
other good friend that is not here today produced you,
Mark and made you look so terribly great because I
believe this character and the character's name is Herbie.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
No Bill Morgan, Herbie's the plant.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Sorry, you're right, I apologize year to God. I did,
and now that we talked about it intently, and you
know I did. But you're right the movies called Herbie
and Mark. You did a remarkable job, right, Like, how
did you like really come up with something going? You
(04:55):
did some work on this, I did about the character
and how much work you had to do to find
this character.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Well, so, so first I got a shout out as
you were mentioning my very very good friend Ford Austin,
who produced this movie and in fact he was the
actor playing the homeless Vet. They shot about a week's
worth of it, and he stopped production and told the
other producers that he thought this film which centers around
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a homeless vet who's at the end of his rope
and finds a broken down cannabis plant and nurtures that
plant back to life, and that cannabis then helps him survive,
and we know the problem with with with vets and
(05:45):
their access to cannabis and all that stuff. And he
told these producers, I got a friend. He's you know,
he's part of the pop Brothers of Law and he
does he's all into this movement. But he's a great actor,
and I think he should do this. And so I
did a little screen test and they hired me, and
I spent about four months really researching and talking to
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I already knew a bunch of homeless vets, and we've
we've known vets in the industry from the weed to
weed for warriors and and so on and so forth.
That I was able to, you know, have serious discussions
about how they need to or want to access cannabis
and they're being forced with the opiates and the other
(06:29):
pills and all that stuff. So so that part of
it was was kind of easy talking to people that
I knew and and interviewing different different vets. And then
when it comes to building the character, I really you
go from the inside out, because what's inside is more
important than the esthetics of the outside, which which is
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important and can be done with makeup and all sorts
of things. But I didn't I don't believe in that.
I believe in going in and becoming the character, growing
my hair out, growing a becoming a pain in the
ass at my house for my wife and kids to
live with. As I'm drowning in this character of a
homeless vet and bringing it home every day. And you know,
(07:14):
when you look at yourself in the mirror after two
or three months and you've grown a beard and your
hair's grown out, and you know, you don't shower every day,
and you do those the little things, you become this
other person, you know, as an actor. And and I
do incorporate some of some method acting and in the
things that I do when I prepare for a character.
(07:35):
But I think it's it's important so that the audience
can get in touch with who this character is. And
and I took it very serious because of what the
movie was trying to say, and it's exploration into the
problem that we have in this country and the way
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they treat vets and the way they really don't care
about their medical treatment and want to force all the
opiates and all that stuff which we know is not working,
and being able to access cannabis and showing you know
how it can help that. It just it just took
(08:21):
over when I decided to do it, and it was
a wonderful experience.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Ford Austin produced a wonderful film because, like I said,
watching you, you got so deep into the character. I
tripped out on how well you cry, how much you
show emotions, and it's just overwhelming to watch a friend
of yours do so well. I mean, you just you
always think you could do something good, and we always
joke with each other. But when we see each other's
(08:48):
craft and then you win an award, like talk about
the award you wont well.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
So so let me let me let me throw out
a little list here of a war and acceptances that
Herbie has had, whether it's an acting award, producing directing.
We've been accepted and these awards have gone out. The
Art House Festival of Beverly Hills, Palm Beach Shorts in Florida,
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Brussels World Film Festival, Rio de Janeiro World Film Festival,
Philadelphia International Filmmaker Awards, Bangkok Movie Awards, Bear Bones International
Film Festival, Culver City Film Festival, New York Shorts Award,
Tokyo International. And it's still being accepted across the world
(09:37):
at other film festivals that it's being submitted to. So
when you get that kind of recognition even at small
film festival wherever it is, and people sending messages, especially vets,
oh wow that was you know that was I relate
to that. I know somebody who went through that. I
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went through that. And when we were filming this thing,
part of it was filmed right in downtown Oklahoma City
and we had drones going over taking shots, and the
director would say, okay, just you know, go and I
would walk in the middle of downtown and I was
in character, and people gave me money, people turned away
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from me. A little girl asked her mom, can we
give this man a few bucks? Because I had a
little you know, ten that I was, you know, holding out,
and and but there were plenty of people who you know,
just were scared, Wow, take one look at you like, what,
well we better, we better avoid this person, you know.
And all the money that I collected, I would I
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ended up giving to other homeless people that were out there.
And so we we we shot some of that stuff
just like in real time, uh, just me going out
and and interacting with real, real people. And that was
that was a great experience to learn that. You know,
it's just it's sad. It's sad because there's people dealing
with that and you never know from one person to
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the next how they're gonna react, and they're either gonna
treat you like a person or or some kind of animal. Actually,
So you know, that's what I got to you know, that's.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
A real issue here too, Mark, and that we all
face and see which is the epidemic of what their
veterans have to go through, whether it be the you know, pills,
the harder drugs, and seeing you play a character like that,
it just breaks my heart that some people won't get help,
can't get help, I mean playing that role, Mark, what
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do you see differently?
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Gotcha? Well, when you're dealing with like my character dealt
with getting beat up by vagrants and thrown in a dumpster, right,
and that's that's pretty much how it starts. And he's
he's in a dumpster, trash, just covered in ship and
(12:03):
it's like that's the how how much lower can you get?
And knowing that you know that's there, there are people
out there that that's what they're dealing with. You know,
it's a it's a hard truth and it was very
it was uncomfortable for me, you know, acting right, you're
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you're acting, you're you know, as actors we say, you know,
we're playing. We're in the playground where we're getting to
do all this stuff and get in touch with emotions
that that that other people have to deal with. And
that particular scene when I was in the dumpster, I
was ultimately thinking about my family and like Wow, what
if something happened in my life and this this is
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where I ended up for what? No, you know, through
no fault of my own, because it's it's not that
person's fault. A lot of time. I mean, of course,
there there are people who who make choices and and
and make bad decisions. But but there are people that
through no fault of their own and whatever life threw
at them, especially Vets who went to war and did
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unspeakable things and then they don't get taken care of afterwards.
I mean, it's it's it really opened my eyes to
what those people have to deal with, and it's sad.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
Yeah, that's really tough too, you know, because yeah, we
see it all time, especially in Vegas around the world,
in l A too, Cali. You know, thousands of people
just left on the street and like you know, just.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
One dollar, a penny, a quarter, anything, and then people
just keep on walking.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
You're like, no, literally, I just need anything, Like they
just keep on walking, like no, but I really need this,
you guys. And some people just don't give a shit, you.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Know, And a lot of people think, well, you did
this to yourself, are you just gonna buy drugs with it?
Speaker 4 (13:55):
You know that's what I'm actually hungry.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
You know, it's a tough call either way. You played
a tough role right there, Marking, And I think it's
a cool to finally bring you on to talk about
your acting because we have a good friend of yours, Dave.
You guys go back to like eight years old. So
I want to talk about Dave. When did you know
that Mark was flamboyant like that?
Speaker 4 (14:22):
That was probably the first day. I mean, like, what
was it? Was it his shoes?
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Was it the feather in his hat?
Speaker 4 (14:28):
Like? What was it that? Oh, it's that face.
Speaker 5 (14:33):
You look at that face and you just know immediately
we were I was seven years old, he was eight
years old.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
We met in class.
Speaker 5 (14:40):
We met in all right, we met.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
In no way.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Yes, hold on sing a song besides Fiddler on the Roof.
Come on, give me one of them, because I'll give
you a good one from Hebrews.
Speaker 5 (14:58):
Mark, that's all you, because he's a singer.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
To give me one together that you guys learned, Oh
you know that.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
You know, every every Friday night Tallnoy was Hello, Hey,
NewME cale lomu sh.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
Kid, but mist the hole shot baby.
Speaker 5 (15:35):
Got through that We would go get freshman's and see
if there was the other you know, seven and eight
year old girls that were to.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
The hotel, to the theg and you guys do the
if I was a rich man is a favorite. I
actually I sang that to my dad on his deathbed,
hours before he died.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Are you serious?
Speaker 4 (16:03):
I did?
Speaker 2 (16:04):
I did a whole musical deal for him if I
as he was waiting for my brother Mike to fly
in from Callcu, Where's where's my son? Mike?
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Kay?
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Let me sing you another song? And I would sing
him something and then I would finish and he's like, Okay,
now where's Mike?
Speaker 4 (16:20):
Let me sing you one more?
Speaker 2 (16:22):
And I did like four songs to so it have
it on video. Do the whole thing. God rest.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
In my office.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
And you interviewed them. We interviewed them.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
We have that such a good time with that man.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
We digress.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
So I gotta ask you, Dave, what's a good story
about our good old friend Mark Washerman where he was
acting and did something funny as a kid, or just
a good embarrassing morderline story, Because for me, I get
the off limits because he knows that I can't bring
up ship that's like to the off limits. But lord knows,
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we all know some things on Mark that can still
take it to the limit. So now that we're talking
about him as his acting career, and you know, as
now we get to embarrass the actor. So Dave Man,
I just have at it.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
It was like before twenties or after.
Speaker 5 (17:19):
You know, that's so many things are rolling around. I
just it's hard to well, here's one story. So this
is we were not kids that we had. We had
almost kind of grown up. Well Mark never really grows up,
but we had kind of we had graduated law school
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and we you know, we were kind of trying to
find our way, and so we had a place we said, hey,
why don't we get a place together and we would
Our favorite thing was to throw parties and have whoever.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
We could get over there guys.
Speaker 5 (17:56):
And so we had a small get together one night
and there was some random girls from the local community.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
College where we were going, and they were there, and so,
you know, this is way back.
Speaker 5 (18:09):
We were in our twenties, I guess maybe our late
late twenties, and you know, so everybody's making out with everybody,
and so these girls that Mark wants to make out with,
by the way, let me just prefice girls.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
This is way before he met his wife.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Jes.
Speaker 5 (18:33):
So we're we're just kind of sitting around and drinking
and got the music on and and girls are making out,
and the girls are this and that and these girls.
This one girl says to Mark, says, I will make
out with you if you make out with Dave.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
Okay, so.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
I know Mark, so I wouldn't.
Speaker 5 (19:02):
I've never seen a guy jump up so fast and
make a beeline for his best friend. And he gets
his face into my face. Fortunately, my arms were long
enough to go round his head and put my palm
on his mouth right before he tries to go.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
Make out with me. So he's making.
Speaker 5 (19:26):
So I get his tongue in the palm of my hand,
and the girls are behind him. No, that doesn't count.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
That doesn't count.
Speaker 5 (19:34):
And I finally I was able to push him off
and it didn't happen. He was so excited about making
out with me so that he could and it wasn't me.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
I mean, look, I did both the girls.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
I don't know what. That's the old school magic. Try
boy boy.
Speaker 5 (19:54):
He excited about making out with me for just a chance,
because you know they were wine.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
But just the chance that there was possibility.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
It was worth it.
Speaker 5 (20:06):
But I will say that that is that was his
m O. I mean, and he just wanted her to Yeah,
he just wanted to get in on the action.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Yeah, Mark, I love that you just get to finally
shine in the acting realm, right, because you get so
much court, you get so many people talking to you
about yeah s GF you ba ba ba bah bah.
And now to sit here and say you're being recognized
(20:40):
for a character storring, Mark Washerman, your name is right
there in letters behind mister Sheldon. And I look at
that and I go not only a Sheldon on Cannabis
talk one on one the iHeart Studios in Vegas. But Mark,
(21:00):
your serious IMDV is growing?
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Brother, Yes, yes, And you know I haven't looked at that.
It's it's been a couple of years now since uh
since I shot that, and uh.
Speaker 5 (21:13):
You know, can I just say I'm gonna I'm gonna
jump in on his acting in that in that role.
It's hard for me, uh to look at my friend
Mark and see him as these characters because he plays
because you know, he's my friend, I know him, you know,
And this is one of those roles where I was
(21:33):
watching him, especially in that dumpster scene, and I'm saying, wow,
I'm I kind of forgot that he was. I just
saw the character and it's not the first time, but
that was really the best time.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
Honestly, doesn't look like you at all. You would never
even know.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
I love it that I've I've done a lot of
movies where I've been accused of that's not you.
Speaker 4 (21:57):
But your plant looks like right on that.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
Plan.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Oh yeah, that was real. They had a couple of
They had a couple of them on set from day
to day.
Speaker 5 (22:09):
So sorry, I just want to say one more thing
on that. A lot of times the characters, because you know,
we write a lot of our own stuff, and you know,
he he writes characters and so do I that kind
of fit his own personality, and so he oftentimes find
that he's kind of playing himself. But this, not in
(22:31):
this one, not in Herbie, This was a complete departure, and.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
I would agree mark this right here was something that
is completely out of your box to where I mean,
you're used to being on the fucking whatever show from
MTV that you that was the big win, and you
play yourself more than you play a real character, right.
I mean, yes, you've gained some weight and played a
character here and there.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
But that was an attorney. It was exactly what in
the in the other movies. So on Amazon you can
find a movie called Commute, which is a comedy when
there is no fast lane. And God in that movie
(23:15):
is played by Tom Sizemore. Wow, thank you. We rest
in peace, Tom Sizemore, we got him. That's a whole
other that's a whole other story that maybe we'll talk
about in a minute. When we were shooting Tom Sizemore
and Commute, but I play an attorney who's driving from
Orange County to LA and it's like ninety percent of
the movies in the car. And then we did a
(23:36):
movie called Falling Down Again playing an attorney who causes
the death of his young son, and that was the movie.
I gained fifty pounds and lost it for this stuff.
But I was playing attorneys. I wrote those movies, and
as Dave said, when I write stuff, I'm drawing from
my own experience. You know. One of the first films
we worked on, in the first play that we ever did,
(23:56):
called Terminal, was about a guy who was dying of
a terminal disease. I had meningitis when I was eighteen
and almost died from it, and I wrote about my
experience and like what, you know, I'm going to die.
I want to do these ten different things. And so,
like you said, a lot of what I write is
drawing from my own personal experiences. But this but Herbie
(24:20):
written by somebody else. You know, I'm not a homeless fan.
I've you know, never experienced.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Any of that.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
So being able to dive into the exploration of a
character like that was really gratifying for me.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
How do you think cannabis played a part in all this?
I mean, you carried a plant as part of the movie.
I get that part, But talk about the other elements
of it for yourself in personal.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Well so, so, you know, for the character being able
to grow his own medicine and use it for all
the medicinal purposes, that was just something very important that
needed to need it to be portrayed like a personal relationship, absolutely,
you know. And and in between takes, as I'm smoking
(25:08):
joints and vapes and needing edibles, it was just perfect
environment for me, you know, because I need my meds
for my own reasons and to get me through. You know,
a couple of times, what the direction are you mean? Okay?
Are you okay? You can be able to Yeah, go
say action, Let's go. You know it doesn't I'm not
getting I think I've said this to you before, Joe,
(25:30):
and you've probably been there on occasion. I think I'm stoned.
You know how many times have you heard me say that?
And after like what you know, eighty two hours of
eighty two hours of going and doing what we're doing
and smoking and do this.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
A couple I've never heard showed them.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Yeah, because not we're medicating. We're medicating where you know,
if I wasn't medicating right now, I'd be bouncing off
the walls. You know, we need it for our own,
our own reasons.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
So it's funny because the way I see you use it, Mark,
and then the way I see you use it, Sheldon,
or like like you're an extensive, excessive like every other
minute second, Mark Washerman needs it. You, on the other hand,
prefer a nice bong rip. You're in there sporadically a
(26:21):
joint maybe, yeah, but you're not a I need to
smoke all the time, but you do need to smoke, but.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
Not need you wear exactly.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
I used to have to smoke like every two seconds,
but then you get to a point. I took like
a month off from smoking and drinking, and whenever I
came back, I was like, you know what, I don't
have to smoke all day long. I'm just gonna do
a bong rip chill for like thirty minutes an hour
or so, and I'll just take another one. And dude,
it's crazy with how much I've cut back on smoking
(26:56):
from when I used to, say, back in my high
school or college, you know, right, but it actually feels
a lot better, Not like say blunt, it's all the
tobacco and then taking a break and actually just doing
glass or a joint feels so much better.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
Bro, it really does.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
Mark.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
What do you do more of?
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Well, so for me, it's all about time. What when
do I have time to do it? What do I
What am I doing from one day? You know, I
could go a whole day and I haven't smoked anything,
just because I'm at the gym in the morning with
my son, and then I gotta go to court all
day and then now I'm picking them up and doing basketball.
(27:35):
So it's you know, in between all that, if I
can if I can get a dab in, if I
can stick my vape in there and get a hit. Great.
When I go away like this on a trip, I'm out,
I'm smoking. I'm smoking NonStop. Yeah, you know, we do
those conventions. You know, we're gonna be back out here
for Champs in July. I will be on the floor,
(27:59):
We'll be out side in the smoking area. I'll be smoking,
you know, all day, every day, you know. So it's
it's for me. If it's it's the the opportunity. If
I have the opportunity, I will chain smoke.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
But if I don't, then you know, it doesn't ruin
my day. I'm not I'm not tweaking out or or
or freaking out because it's like no, and I realized,
oh jeez, it's like I've been through the whole day.
I haven't even had yet. Now I'll go get one
or you know, I'll throw some edibles and stuff like that.
So it's it's for me. It's more about when am
I able to and what's accessible.
Speaker 4 (28:35):
And are perfect for that. Yeah, you're just on the road.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
You don't only have time, you know, it's even at
a concert, you can't really twist one up or just smow.
Speaker 4 (28:43):
It's not allowed. But just a little vape or edible
it everywhere.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
I think a lot of shows now too, they're just
gotta be so it's got to be so much better
for people to be like, oh my god, I could
just hit this babe, pan, I don't have to smoke
a joint.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
We was talking about the Snoop Dogg show. We did,
you know, we did that? So it was at the
It was at Kevin Hart's studio out in wherever that
was in the valley, And we got a whole email
with rules when you get on studio, no smoking pot
no like there was you know in the trailer you
can't smoke there. And our trailer was right next to
(29:19):
Snoop's trailer, right, And we get there and they're walking
us into the trailer and I smell it and I'm like,
how can And I've got the print out and I
go this says we can't smoke and we're get in
trouble and it says all this stuff. And the assistant
director who was walking us out, he goes, oh, I
don't worry about that, right, yuys, you're okay, all right, cool,
(29:43):
And so we were we were in our trailers smoking
up a storm while Snoop was in the trailer next
door smoking up. So it's just all who are you
with and who's calling the shots?
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Yeah, well, you know, Mark, I think it's appropriate for
you to show off and for to Michael's Sheldon and
of course your buddy Dave, who have you been knowing
since you've been eight years old. But your slam poem,
I mean, I know we're not talking about the pop
brothers at law, but you've done some stuff that has
(30:16):
really shined. And let your brother write off your coattails, right,
because as he thinks it's the dumbest thing ever, there's
something there that debuts your acting fucking skills that are
just phenomenal, and you're writing skills that are awesome.
Speaker 5 (30:34):
Well, let me jump in for a second, because yes,
his ability to write poetry, it's amazing to me. And
he comes up with it like almost instantly, it just
comes out.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
He's wrote me several love letters.
Speaker 5 (30:49):
He's able to, you know, rattle off this slam poem
about at cannabis.
Speaker 4 (30:56):
But let me tell you, as far as acting goes,
he was able to memorize.
Speaker 5 (31:05):
Go ahead, I mean, well, I mean the raven oh,
and so.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
You watch that's the Edgar Allan Poe nineteen stands up poem.
Speaker 5 (31:18):
Absolutely memorized to the letter. And he sent me videos
of it, and I would watch, you know, I would say,
give him, no, it's here and there, you know, just
pronunciations and stuff. I was auditioning to play, auditioning to
pay right, and so he sends me this stuff and
I'm watching it as he's sending me video after video
(31:41):
after video, and I see the improvement and I see
him evolving into Edgar Allen Poe the person as he's
reciting this poem. So when you talk about acting, so
the acting when he's reciting a poem that he's written,
especially about cannabis, I mean, that's just it just flows.
(32:05):
It just flows because he believes it. But the acting
part comes from when he does something else like Edgar
Allan Poe.
Speaker 4 (32:12):
And that's not easy.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (32:14):
You see where the talent is.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
And I've seen where the talent is as well. The
way you've learned to become a radio host, the way
you learn to do.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
So many things I learned from the best.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
Yes, you have and I just want you to share
with all of us and those that are watching. Give
us the acting style in Las Vegas slam poem.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
You're putting me on. I don't even know the last
time I've done this exactly. I mean, see if I
still remember it.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
Let's come on there we go, get ready? Yeah, give
it to us.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
What's the name with the camera?
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Yeah, I think it's called I think it's.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
Called them my being detained in my free to Go?
Ladies and gentlemen, that's the name of it. Is this
my camera right here?
Speaker 1 (33:01):
All right?
Speaker 2 (33:02):
All right, all right? This is uh am I being detained?
Or am I Free to go? A slam poem by
the pop brothers at law? They're written by me. No
Am I being detained? Or am I free to go?
This is what to say, my lawyer tells me. So
the cops are out there doing a job. Sometimes they
(33:24):
must contain a mob, a thankless job that saves many
lives at their home or worried children, husbands and wives.
But does that give them the right to stomp on
my rights? So we are here for you, the cannabis community,
to fight to let you know what's okay to just
shut the fuck up. When cops ask questions, you start with,
I'm not discussing my day, end with I invoke the fifties.
Ain't suggestions. These are words to live by, to memorize. See,
(33:45):
it's not about the size of that CoP's gun, because
they want you to run so they could pull that
macho gun and shoot you for fleeing the scene. Some
cops are just plaining, mean, we must shut it off,
shut it down. Those feelings of anger that instantly come
around when that cop has to show his power and
his might without cause, without reason, and we know they're
not right. We must remain calm, keep the devil sleeping
(34:06):
on the left shoulder. We must be cold, even colder.
Ice must float through your veins to shut that heat,
the blood that rushed your brain straight from your feet.
When that cop disrespected you cause you wouldn't tell him
what that smell was, and he excuses you of a
pot toui because he absolutely knows that you buzz. But see,
they can't tell, and they don't know only if you
tell them. So o, officer, I expoke to join a
(34:28):
few hours ago. Officer, here's my medical wreck. Officer. I'm
a marijuana patient. We live in America prohibition still exists.
That CoP's gonna do whatever he's gonna do. Fifty to
fifty he arrests. You give us a chance to represent
you with a defense that's blazing. Let us show you
in court we're amazing. But we could only do that
if you listen to our tips and let me see
(34:49):
you move your lips. You know the drill. When the
cops ask questions, we say, I'm not discussing my day.
Am I being detained? Or am I free to go?
I invoked the fifth and then you shut the fuck up.
It's all about what you're saying, what you do. We
have given you the script. We are telling you what
(35:10):
to say. We are telling you what to do. We've
put your hands up in protection mode. But should you
take a shot to the jaw, we will be here
fighting for the cannabis community and all citizens because we
are the pop Brothers at law.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
And you know that's not what we were here to
day for.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
But Mark washing I remembered it.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
Show up and Mark. For those who haven't seen go
check out the movie Herbie. You can get it on Amazon.
You can get it, uh.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
Well no Amazon, you can get Commute and Falling down.
Herbie isn't available yet because it's still running the Film
Festival's circuit terminal. It's not there anymore. But commute and
falling down.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
And of course Dave Cohen, thank you for coming. Sheldon
Cooper from All Access USA. Tattoos and smokes in Las Vegas.
Where's the addresses for those?
Speaker 3 (36:09):
Oh yeah, twenty three hundred North Rainbow or if you're
by the airport, thirty one thirty East Sunset Row.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
Yep. And I was just out there for the grand
opening of that second location, hanging out. And the Cannabis
Awards is going down September twenty eighth. That's gonna be
the first Cannabis Awards on a Sunday.
Speaker 4 (36:28):
Yep, it's going down.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
You guys, make sure you're to church first exactly.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
And Mike Trump Culture Awards July twenty fourth, eight pm,
come talk about the event real quick. Please. Oh I
don't know what camera you had, what camera did you pick? Okay,
come into talk about it.
Speaker 6 (36:47):
It's your boy, Mike. We're here live in Las Vegas
at iHeartRadio.
Speaker 4 (36:51):
Come out.
Speaker 6 (36:52):
July twenty fourth, six pm. We're gonna be at the
Fremont Country Club doing a Buyer's B to B Wholesale
Network Night. It's gonna be awesome. And from eight to
whenever they decide to close, we're gonna be having Immortal Technique,
live music, Poison, pen Ronnie Lee spectacular. Stuff's gonna be great.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
Yes, so just tons of events always going down. Of course,
follow Cannabis Talk one on one for all the news
and more information Pop Brothers at Law letting you know,
shut the fuck up when cops ask questions. All that
says USA is putting it down like four flats every day. Baby.
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