Meet CEO of Ardent & Billow, Shanel Lindsay & COO, Miriam Magid!

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just like one, two, three four. I don't know what's

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coming knocking at the door, but we're kicking it through.
I like it. Even Daniel was over there barking it
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I put it out today at the gym that I
go to, I put them in there. I had to

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go get the oil chains at the tire shop today,
so I put the tire shop everyone. You know what
I mean. We're making it go down a day. We
had like twenty dispensaries already in in uh the local
area with over a hundred of them Arizona to California.
So in Nevada there, I mean there, it's awesome. On Friday,
I gave my kids one last night and it was

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just so cute. I go here, you guys, here's the magazine. Dad,
you're in the there's Uncle Blue. They joint on it. No, no, no,
they just took some cotton candy on it. And yeah
these my old my older one, yes, which I need
to mail her one, so she has a couple of copies.
Are guests on the show. It's funny because her name

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is Chanelle and Chanelle what you don't know? That's my
wife's name. How random is that? I don't know. I
call her my wife right now. I don't know what
we are right now, but right now she's stilling my wife.
But hey, for now, it spells it a little differently
than you c H A N E L L E.
But you know a little different. You guys look kind
of the same, but a little different. You know, you're

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both beautiful, that's for sure. Chanel Lindsay the CEO of
Ardients and Billow, a black woman owned company where she
is a multi business owner on an ancillary side as
well as you guys, which is amazing, A lawyer, advocates
and consumer of cannabis, which is cool because I love
when I see the lawyer part, who we kidding? And

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then a consumer of cannabis because those are the two
that I just used to hide in the closet like
no other you know, what I mean those professions were like, no,
I'm not coming out of that green closet. Well, when
you're afraid of getting arrested, you know, that's a big deal.
What happened? It is different, it is and her company

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makes amazing and unique cannabis tech for all consumers. We
also have Miriam mcgint. Mag Maggett is an Italian. What
is Maget? Super Jewish? Oh, maggot him maggot over here

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is uh, we're not sharing that building. The CEO who
is also a multi business owner on the ancillary side,
medical and recreational consumer and lover of the plants. Now,
Blow is a cess friendly smoking filteration system that I
see on the table here. That is that when that's
right there on the table, that's awesome. Well, this system

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allows you to consume them without the worry of smoke
or older. I can't wait to hear how this thing works.
Their patent design allows the cannabis connoisseur to enjoy to
enjoy a smoke without the aftermath of cloudy environments. Now
they also blessed us today with their new entity Ardents.

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The company that has deemed themselves as the easy Bake
for adults and not only that. I was on a
call earlier with slard I think Chris Frankino. They're like, no, dude,
it's like really the easy Bake for adults. Like they
literally said it like that. It were so like excited
to say it even that way. And I didn't realize
that that's kind of like the slogan which you guys
are using, because I thought they just kind of made

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it up and we're talking to me on the phone
that way, going No, Joe, it's really remember we met
him aut MJ BIS and they really are doing this,
and it's like, I don't know if it's like the
easy Bake, And sure enough, it really is. This device
which is also patent and created to make the cannabis
infused process easy and quick for beginners and pros. You
can find them on line at ardent cannabis dot com.

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That's A R D E N T C A and
then A B I S dot com and what is
billow dot com w H A T I S, B
I L L O W dot com. Welcome ladies to
the show. It is so good yes to have you
guys here. Um Chanelle, how did you well? Before we
get to the company, this stuff. Where you guys from, Yeah,

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who are you guys? Where you guys from? Are you
guys from southern California? Are you guys from Grape Street?
And you guys like really crips that turned to Grape
Street cript from Oakland because of all the grape going
on here. Well, you know, we're bringing the East Coast
energy away from Boston. Um, but now we are. Yeah,
we went to u Pen. So Boston is making so

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much noise in this industry. I feel like and uh,
like so many people. I just randomly got hit up
from a chick on LinkedIn to from Boston. He really
wants to get into the industry. Just I've just been
hearing Boston so much recently. So you know, we were
the first East Coast state to legalize and we were
heavily involved with that effort to make sure that we
were you know, free to smoke and actually have dispensaries

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and whatnot. And um, yeah, we built the first brand
ardent Um in Boston for the last seven years and
yeah we did. Yeah, this is well, we built our
first brand ardent So that's our easy bake oven, the
first brand in Boston. Say, we're very dominant brand because
we were we were on the scene before they were

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actually brands, right, because we were helping to build up
the industry and actually you know open it up for
people to come in. Yeah, so that's you know, I'm
an attorney and um you know, I'm so proud and
blessed to have Miriam by my side. She's my ace
and the whole CEO CEO and together we you know,
just bring innovative product to market. Right. We're like stoner chicks, right.

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We love to smoke, we love to consume cannabis, and
we also love to build tech and business and you know,
be the leaders there and show that, like the legacy market,
that's where it's at. Like we we are the ones
to understand and know the consumer and we're the ones
that are going to bring the innovation to the space.
Is that what you guys? Well, what were you doing
in Boston before you created this company? Like you went

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to college? Was just you were what type of attorney
were you? So? I was practicing UM at a mid
sized firm, doing all kinds of fun things like insurance
and reinsurance, representing like Sears and Pepsi and all these
other you know, I say fun. But I'm being kind
of facetious there. It was. It was good. We don't
have too many lawyers. Ship. I did the fun lawyer job. No,

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but it was good though, because you learned how to
you know, analyze and read and write and you know,
make really great legal arguments. And so at the same time,
I was also you know, growing my own weed and
processing it because I after my son was born. I
had him in college, So after he was born, I
got no varian cysts, and I started using cannabis and
making edible topicals and all of these things to help

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with this ovarian cyst. So at the same time as
I'm a lawyer and this like rising star in the
legal community, I'm also you know, growing in my house
and making my own products. Exactly how did you get
in tune for this medicine? And I'm sorry to hear
about that, but like, how did you get this pain
and then realize, oh, I gotta treat it with cannabis
rather than just the meds that the most doctors and

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most women will just use. Exactly. So they prescribed me
really really high doses of seat of medicine and some
other pain killers, and I went and I did some
research and I was like, if I take this, this
is going to damage my liver long term. And I
was already a smoker, right, a heavy smoker. But and
I thought, listen, people out in California are using this
to help with all types of you know, ailments, So

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I could do this right. And so I started just
research again from the lawyers. I started researching, looking into
how do I make these products? And this was back
in you know, the dark ages, right before there was
actually any yeah, and before there was actually any information
out there. And honestly, that process of ten plus years
of making edibles and topicals at home and never knowing

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the right dose and it all being inconsistent because of
the UM kitchen appliances like your oven and everything being inconsistent,
that's what eventually led me to go do the research
for Ardent and develop the Easy Bake Oven, which is
really a decarboxy relating machine. It's like a lab grade
decarboxy lator that activates whether it's th HC or cb
D or CBG, and it activates it to UM right,

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which means that you can use just a tiny bit
of the bud or the key for concentrate that comes
out to make your products. So basically, you know, um,
making it easy for patients to to make these products,
because what's the point of legalization if nobody knows how
to actually use the medicine? So it isn't that crazy
that and I say crazy in the most beautiful way. Ever,

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how a tragedy for you, Chanel right lead you to
look into utilizing cannabis then starting this other career from
a lawyer that's led you to be here with us
now from that type of quote unquote, oh my god,
I'm hurt. I'm I'm you know, pay suffering, looking for solutions,

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not wanting to take these medications, and now you're literally
helping the world for God's sakes, you know what I mean.
And you look at what you're doing, and you're creating
something for people to create their own medicine that don't
have to sit there and take these type of pills
or are just enjoy it and make their own party
supplies whatever you want to came to a head too

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because I was like living the good life growing this
growing up in my spare bedroom, and I thought everything
was great, but then I ended up getting arrested. Um
when I didn't know the way too. So, um, I'm
driving to work and I had some of my homegrown
on me, of course, because I have it with me.
And I get pulled over for you know, taking a

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ride on a red when I wasn't supposed to. And
the cop comes up and he sees this bowl, you know,
that I have in the car, and yeah, and he's
yeah and and so at that point, you know, I'm
growing up. I'm growing and that's really illegal. But what's
not what shouldn't be illegal as just having simple possession
because by that time we had already decriminalized in Massachusetts,

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and so I should have just got a ticket, a
hundred dollar ticket. But when he saw that we he
was like started searching the car, pulled me out, rested me,
through me in the back of the cop car, and
I had to talk my way out of it when
we got to the station and tell them, like, you're
violating my civil rights here. But that was a really
scary moment because I was about to lose everything at
that point. Right they were about to bring me into
the you know, courtroom where I represented clients as an

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arranged me, you know exactly, Hey, we know you and
I have my son and he's young at that point,
and I'm just really worried. And so after that, um,
you know, police started just kind of like stopping by
my house and then I had so I had to
cut down all my plans because that would have been
a huge you know, Um, I would have been yeah,

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you like when you got you got fully arrested, like
what happened? Yeah, So I dropped the Yeah. So basically, um,
so he arrested me, and we're going and I'm saying
and the whole time, and I'm saying, why are you
arresting me? This should just be a hundred dollar you
know ticket. Get a lawyer. No, I didn't, because when
people know about that, then they're ready to take something
away from you. So I was just staying incognito and

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just trying to think, you know, at the at the moment,
I'm just in the back of the clock car, what
do you do? You know what I mean? Because he's
already obviously already has it out for me. So I
exactly and he found a jar in the back that
had like half an ounce in it right so way
below the amount that I should have been getting a
ticket for. So we go to the m to the

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police station and he takes me out. I'm a handcuffs now,
and it's it's summertime. So I'm like, and I'm I'm
a lawyer, so I'm gona have my blouse on my
skirt and I'm in these you know, I'm in handcuffs
and they're sending me on this concrete slab, and I'm
just racking my brain. How do I get out of
this their process of me and the booking. And then
I think, um, you know, I said, you know, I
only have fourteen at fourteen grams, you shouldn't be arresting me.

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And there was a woman with a police officer and
she goes, no, she says the police officer, no, you
had probable cause to think that it's that it's over announced.
And I thought, man, this lady wants me to go
to jail or this weed, you know, And so so
I think, you know, and I'm a lawyer, right, so
I'm thinking in probably cause and I and I said
to them, you you might have had probable cause they're
on the side of the road when we were on

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the side of the road. But we're in the police
station now, and so you have every tool that you need,
like a scale to determine whether or not this is
really over an ounce and it got really quiet, silent,
and then they just both left the room. So I'm
sitting there thinking, like, gonna happened? Fifteen minutes fifteen minutes later,
he comes back and he says it was fourteen grams,
and I go, I know, and then he takes a
handles off, Noga, Okay, you're free to go. My car's impounded.

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At this point, I don't have any I don't even
have anything, and I have to go. It was crazy,
but at that point, you know, I had I went
home and I sat there and I waited and I
just thought, and I thought, everything is gonna be okay.
A couple of weeks later, policeman comes by the house
talking about, oh, I saw that your registration some some bullshit,
and I was just like, they're watching now, you know
what I mean? Yeah, yeah, that that exactly. And then

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I thought, okay, I'm gonna get in real trouble here.
I need to go, and I cut it down all
my plans. But at that point, you can imagine I'm
using this for my medicine, so now you cut. Now
I've cut down my plans. Now I gotta go back,
you know, to you know, the we man around the corner,
who's who knows what I'm getting at that point, you know,
versus what I was making and um, and that made
it even more so that I had to scrimp when

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it came down to like making my products and how
do you stretch it and everything like that. And so
that was part of that journey, and that was like
a very dark time. I kind of like put all
that behind me and you know, suppressed it until it
was time to legalize in Massachusetts because we I was
one of the authors for the campaign to legalize right
one of the authors of the ballot question in Massachusetts.
Right Question for we wrote a ballot initiative and got

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it on the ballot, and I was one of the
spokespeople for the campaign saying, Hey, we need to legalize.
And one of the things that I was saying is
people are still getting arrested, especially black and brown people
right in the suburbs. That's in and not just there.
But like, if that was happening to me in the suburbs,
what do you think was happening in the city to
like young people, Right? So exactly. I think if I was,
if I hadn't been a lawyer, if I was, if

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I was, she wasn't black. Let's just put that out there.
If I wasn't. But imagine if I was a doctor
or a teacher or something and I didn't know how
to talk about probable cause on the side of the road,
right like that. That's that was something that was standing out.
And and basically when it was time for the campaign
to legalize, that's when I, you know, we were saying like, hey,
people are still getting arrested. And there was this state

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Senator Jason Lewis, and he was like, no, that's not true.
Because I was on like a panel, and then I thought, Wow,
these people actually really think that people aren't getting arrested
for campus anymore, like and it kind of brought up
my store and then I thought and I went to
the campaign manager and I said, listen, well do you
think this was relevant, like I got arrested. He was like, yeah,
that's relevant. We started like doing press conferences around the
fact that this happened this and this is still happening

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after decriminalization, and that's the reason, like now we actually
have to legalize so that was a big part of
you know, the push for legalization, and Massachusetts passed by
you know, you know, so it's very slim margins, and
I think people really resonated with that idea of um,
the freedom and and the fact that people there's disparity
and certain people are getting arrested and and decriminalization is

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for some people, but other people are still just gonna
go right to jail and get arrested over it. So
that was a really long and interesting journey. And at
the same time, we're building up Ardent and teaching people
how to make products and stuff because even after we
legalize in Massachusetts, it was many many years before dispensaries
came online, and so the only way people actually had

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to make in products properly was, you know, a technology.
And I was testing the medicine at the laboratory and
going and showing like, hey, you know, in your kitchen,
in your like oven, you're only gonna get fifty seventy
activation in in in the laboratory we were able to
get over and I and I was like, and so

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then I took that testing from the lab and created
a machine do the same thing as we were doing
in the laboratory, so you're plus activation exactly for th HC, C, V, D, C, B, G,
any of the cannabinoids. So people are using like even
if if people are making products right now, they'll get
our device and use half as much weed to make

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their products. And you can activate key for concentrate or
whatever you want in there. But basically it's like you
think of any product you can see on the dispensary self,
or anyone that you can imagine in your mind. You
can deconstruct it and make it inside and then you
can also like cook your little edibles inside there as well.
I want you to walk us through how you make something.
We're gonna take a break real quick and give us

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both two different things one of you, each of like
two different items that you can literally make it there
because you just said anything you can think of or
anything that's in the dispensary, and there's a lot of
items there. So explain to the listeners what they can
make in your beautiful concept that you guys got right there.
It's Cannabis Talking on and over. Right back after we'll
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was talking to you guys and marian I said, I
want you guys to both give me an example of
what we can do in this beautiful machine that you
guys have there. What is the machine name? Exactly? Again,
that's the effect, this is the name. This is a
little affordable guy. If they could and they both kind

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of do the same thing, one you can just do
more exactly this one can do after you know, moreflative
in it, prossly. How much of the flower, how you've
frind it down matters if you did it is you
don't actually to grind it, and I would recommend that
you don't. When you grind it, you're going to kind
of crush the trichromes and everything is a little bit

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better with cannabis and you keep it more natural, right, Um,
so throw it right in there like you know, this
is a tiny amount. But let's say you were going
to take this, you pop it right in, so you're
literally doing it right now. You just put some butt
in there, let's say, yep, and then you would plug
it in. You plass this little button on the front
of the sport and you know it charge and you
could just you have to plug it in all time, okay. Um.

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And then there's four different settings. One is for th HC,
one is for CBD, one is for infusing, and one
is actually for baking, which now is going to go
through a little bit, but you can really just press
a button there. Our new version is actually bluetooth and
able to an app is coming soon where that will
walk you through the entire process and started to finish

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there you go exactly m hmm. And then once it's activated,
takes about an hour and a half. But once it's activating, okay,
how about this that little bit of weed which was
maybe a half a gram if you put in there, right,
If you put a half a gram in there, how
long does that take to to break down or to
make a concentrate. You're not making a concentrate, you're actually
just activating the cannabis and whatever form you put it in.

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So I brought flowers. You can have butter in there.
You can do the butter after you process it. But
you can you can, you can you keep, you can
do concentrate anything that has the th HC or CBD
in it, or CBG or you know, any of the
other smaller canabinoids. It really doesn't matter. It's it's doing
it on the molecular level. So the format isn't that important.

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But you put it right in there, what you'll get
out is just a slightly drier version of that format.
So the bud will come out brown, a little bit drier,
the key will come out a little bit more kind
of gold, a little golden. But really you're you end
up with some sort of the same starting material and
then from that point you can actually just consume it
as it. So I am hands down the laziest edible

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consumer in the world. But I eat edibles almost every day. Um,
But like you, we'll never have the patients act really
make anything. So I take my decarb flour um, which
I would do about Yeah, I just eat it. I
just eat it. I keep it. I keep decarved in
the house and I have it a little bit of
my bag usually and you only needed a little bit.
So that's the thing a lot of people don't realize.

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They confuse this idea of activating decarb and you have
to put it in a butter oil. Now you can.
There's lots of reasons why you want to put it
in butter and oil. But if you just activate it
right like this and then sprinkle it on your food,
it's just a tiny bit, even in one gram. Think
it's like two hundred milligrams. If you have HC. Just
add a zero to it. That's how many milligrams in

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every gram, So two hundred milligrams in one graham abud.
Think about how much you want for an edible, So
if you wanted twenty milligrams, it would just be like
point one. It's just you can barely even taste it.
Or you can put it in capsules as well, or
just like put on your food. So that blows a
lot of people's minds when they see, like, okay, instead
of going and eating like a cookie, I could just

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exactly put it in yourself, grind it down like parsley
or whatever. That can just shake it on the s
the salt and pepper shaker. I'm thinking exactly, people have
dinner parties and they'll just leave a bowl of decar button.
Everyone can kind of do their own dose and you
don't have to be worried about everyone's kind of stick
of how much they need and all of that. But

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most importantly, like shell saying, this idea of having all
fattening food just to be able to consume cannabis is
totally and when you put it in there, pardon my ignorance,
and if you guys explain this, surety, but I just
want to be perfectly clear because I'm not. You just
put it in there with nothing else, no water, no butter,
like blue nothing, because I'm always just a dried and
once it dries up, it doesn't turn into an oil

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or nothing. It just becomes that dryness. And that's the
dryness that becomes decar. What's the term exactly, it's just activated.
Cannabis doesn't activate unless unless it unless it has right
it's basedally decarbon making it active, and then you can

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do whatever you want with you, like baking it so
to speak. Ye, So that every every dispensary product and
every cannabis product that you are like ingest has been activated. Right,
So this is a process that's happening when people are
producing cannabis products. But we just allow people to do
it at home. They normally they can make their own
Do they normally do it, you know, in butters while

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it's or do they do it first and then you
have to decarb first. A lot of people will do
it in butters. Frankly, that's I know, for many years,
but it doesn't really work. So once the molecules are
actually capsulated in that butter or oil, they're not able
to access the heat in the same way and you
essentially lose control over the chemical process. Right. This is chemistry,
and we treat it like baking, you know what I mean.

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And this machine really brings it back to its core,
which is a lab process. Right. And just so you
guys understand, what makes this different than like your oven
or your toaster oven is that this entire cavity is
covered with a heater from top to bottom. So there
is a heater that wraps around this whole cavity, and
there are two sensors. There's one sensor in the bottom

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and then there's one sensor on the side and there's
an algorithm that's controlling that temperature. So you're having this
complete heated sleeve and blanket around everything that's inside, so
we're able to control that temperature down to you know,
the tenth of a degree, right, and so you're getting
that kind of activation that you would never be able
to get with an oven or a toaster oven that

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like varries degrees even with your best oven. So that
is really you know, encapsulating the science of cannabis, but
making it so easy that all you gotta do is
press a button to do it so easy. It looks
like a thermous style um not only a humor door
that keeps it all there, but I'm thinking of a
croc pot ish, you know what i mean. Like it's

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all covered, it looks very attractive, and it has a
carrying case. And if you do wanna um, if you
do want to um make infuse into butter and oil,
of course you can do that as well too. And
and there's no minimum too of what you can put in.
You can just put one little nug in there and
make it. And that's that's another thing people really love

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because they don't want to like in the old days,
you're putting like an ounce in in the oven to
make cookies and stuff. And what we show people is
like you need very little to make products and you
can experiment. So if you want to throw one gram
in there or whatever, you know, you really can't go wrong.
And if you want to UM make butters or oils,
there's a bunch of accessories that we pulled together and

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created to make that simple too. And basically to make
the butters of the oil, you still have to activate first, right,
and the easiest way to understand the real process of
decapproxilation is just a locking key, right. You have to
remove a little bit of the molecule so it fits
into our receptors in our body. That's the whole kitten
caboodle of why why we have to do that to
begin with UM. But once you take the flour or
keep or concentrate, you activate it. Then you're going to

(25:53):
add after the activation, you're going to add the butter oil.
Really any medium you want. We have used many, many,
any different ones and people out there incredibly creative milk
actually cream, and then some are some are good for
beauty too, things that you wouldn't eat, but that you
could make beauty products with and so watch out. Our
beauty line is coming, yeah, to be able to you know,

(26:14):
treat acne and keep you looking young. You know, people
can basically create their own, right. I mean if I
did that and put alive oil in there and just
rub it on my skin, I mean there we go
with cocoa butter, and butter is really popular, right, and
then just put it in myself, mix it up and
then you can make it as strong as you want.
Before you know, you're putting something on your skin that
has way more than you can ever buy at a store.
Because you can make your own medicine, your own pain, everything. Yeah,

(26:38):
and that's what our community loves. And it's funny because
people make make products in all different ways. Right. Some
people are you know, um making it for patients, right,
so their caregivers and they're putting a bunch of you know,
flour in there, and then they're putting a bunch of
oil and they're using our French press to make large amounts.
Some people are just making you know, tiny little bits
and they're making their capsules. But basically how people approach

(27:00):
cannabis in any way that they make it. Our goal
is to have a solution and accessories and things like
that to make it simple and easy for exactly, can
you make it like that? Once you break it down
like that and then put it like a tea bag.
Can you put that then in some water and make
just cannabis tea like that too? So cannabis you would
need a medium because t is not water soluble, right,

(27:22):
So you can put some coconut oil in your tea,
or you can um kind of infuse it into a
more fatty like like Miriam was saying, like a milk
or cream or something like that, and so exactly, so
we have all that information and the one thing that
we really love to lead with is a science. So
over the last seven years we've done a ton of
testing in the laboratory to basically show people what infuses

(27:44):
the best, how to do it, how to make it.
And then with the launch of our app, people don't
even have to go to the website anymore. They'll just
have the app UM and be able to like scan
our kits because we actually made these like edibles kits
that go along with the device, so basically in right
and UM, so you can basically take these UM and

(28:06):
they have little open that. Um, yeah, that's a that's
our breakfast cloud cakes kit and basically it's a blueberry
muffins and chocolate muffins. And so you can go like
Miriam said and just activate your flower and then just
break it up inside the batter there and the inside
the powder and just mix it with water and then

(28:26):
you put it in here and then you can bake
you know, your own edibles inside and so oh yeah
look it. So you can bake little snacks inside based
on these little kids that we have and look at you. Yes,
you can make me little cakes. And then these are um,

(28:46):
you know activated and like you said, you can make
whether you want th HC or cb D. You want
them strong, you want them, you know, um, and you
can on the lights or you can exactly, you can
do instant that's what we call instant edibles, right, that's
just when you add the matter, um, and then you
really don't have to do any infusing or anything like. Yeah,

(29:06):
so it just comes exactly. So you just open this
and it has the batter in there and um, so
you could just make your own blueberry muppons and you
don't even have to really infuse them at all you
can exactly and this is um, yeah, these aren't infused yet,
so you basically, yeah, we don't touch the plan at all.

(29:28):
They what they activate their product at home, right, And
so what we do is we sell exactly, but it
also has the leticin and other things in it that
are customized to make your cannabis experience better. Right, So
we kind of deliver for people all everything that they
need in order to kind of get it over that
next step. And um, yeah, so these are and how

(29:50):
long will those take to bake? Um? Just about twenty
minutes and there. And so the idea is even if
like you're in a hotel room, you can make edibles
from you know, a to z, all you need is
an outlet. Um. And that's important for a lot of people,
especially when the pandemic started. Nobody number one, they just
like needed private, separate space. But a lot of people
can't whether they have room, roommates and other things like that,

(30:10):
they can't kind of be preparing cannabis out in a
kitchen or out in a public space, you know, to
be so to be able to have a solution where
all you need is a room and an outlet, or
you can do it in your r V or you
know exactly so you can see, here's our little batter.
Here is just add water. Yeah, we've had and we've

(30:30):
had tons of different you know, kits and stuff, but
our most popular are just like our basic coconut oil
kit right where we go and we you sell them
the oil and you know, um people use that as
the base and it gives them the comfort of knowing like, hey,
I've done this right. And you can see you can
just do small batches at a time and that allows
you to have really fresh edables too, so you're not um,
you know, eating the stale batch. You know, Yeah, I

(30:53):
love this, I want one. I want to eat one.
What is this hit for? So? Um? The barger device
is three hundred and the smaller mini um for people. Again,
some people are like just decarbon agram you know, every
other day, so they want the smaller version. Um, and
that's too fifty exactly. And then also to you know,

(31:16):
people like you waste one ounce a weed that's you know,
pays for itself, you know, for people and just having
that comfort of like, hey, this is something that um,
you know is going to stay with them and help them. UM.
What we found is people even though they use half
as much to make their products, they start to make
more things, right, they start to think about because they

(31:37):
have extra weed around now, they're like, Okay, I made
my edibles that I need for X, Y and Z.
Now let me think about making a topical or let
me think about making a you know, suppository. That's another
you know, big thing. And we make yeah, because our
suppository molds. So we make our own you know, we
manufacture and create our own products. The job done. If

(32:02):
so many cancer patients, that's the real deal. Joe g
from count But yeah, and so we made one that
has fourteen so it's it's four weeks of suppositories and
it's simple and easy because this didn't exist on the market,
like a really simple multiple, right, and so we kind
of just see where the pain points are in the market,
where the patients are having trouble, and then we can

(32:24):
create solutions for them. And then they can always know
that whatever flower key for concentrate that they get, they
can you know, make it into anything that they want.
That's like the real medical side right there. Like what
you guys have there is like real real in my opinion,
Like you know, we see a lot of people do
things and some people could have a little laugh and
joke with it, but it's like, no, this right here

(32:45):
is for serious patients that have serious elements that need
cannabis to treat it. And those are what they say,
I've worked great and it's hard sometimes to find this
kind of stuff. And that's exactly I've never seen that.
We've had people here and and I've never seen a
mold of make your own where you know you can
buy it, but you can't make it. And I'll say,

(33:05):
I have cronesi za and cronzies most of my life,
so I get very extreme nausea. For me, I can't can't,
I can't edible at that point, I'll just vomit. And
so this is really the only option, which is like
you're saying, heavy on the medical side and then on
the other side of things. As a women, of course,
there really are not a lot of good options when
it comes to any kind of pain relief when it
around our periods anything, you know, even post labor. A

(33:27):
lot of you know, the pieces that happened there that
women are not widely talked about, right, but really there
are not any good options, um, and they should be
talked about more often because they need it, and so
do men. There's a lot of colon things that men
go through that I mean, colon cancer are so huge
with men and women and they have two colon and
the vagina and they need to be talked about and
not so oh uh no, this is really you guys

(33:49):
and women need this. We had these two women on
that made the tampon uh with cannabis on it. I
thought it was amazing when we met them, Like, let's
get them on this show because this needs to be
you know, talked about more. And I think people don't
realize how many of their over the counter medicines can
be replaced with cannabis therapy and it works so much better, right,

(34:11):
and the exactly and so that is UM. That's our
mission to make sure that people have access UM and
the ability to make it and that this is the
way we think. We love dispensaries to write, but people
should be able to like you go out to eat,
but you also know how to cook your own food.
And that's how we think of this. It's like you
should be everybody should have the knowledge to be able

(34:31):
to make cannabis products and then they can go get
their favorites at the dispensary. But you should at any
point be able to make something that you need for
you know, you or your family are friends and that's
really um you know about making that technology to make
that possible. And it's just mostly sold online. Yeah, so
we're mostly online. We're actually moving into retails with their
retailers listening interested ahead is up um but right, and

(34:55):
this is the Ardent Cannabis. Yeah, this is Ardent Cannabis
dot com. And yeah, so we've been to eat the
c for like seven years now and really just growing
our audience and listening to what the community wants and
creating more product, getting patents and patents on. Yeah, we're
just a chance. Um yeah really well and naturally we're um,
you know, talking about the early seven partnerships that are
coming up and we'll be able to mas. That's good. Well,

(35:19):
let's take a break and when we come back, we
have another product that we want to talk about. That's
the smokeless, odorless and everything else that makes you're smoking
experience to the next level. We're gonna hear all about that.
It's Gonnabis Talk one oh one will be right back
after this wreak. We'll be right back with Cannabis Talk
one oh one. Welcome back to Cannabis Talk one oh one.

(35:47):
If you want to turn your typical onto something, especially
you guys when it comes into these products, the flavor mutations,
and this is enjoyable us to during your experience because
it's the website, the rant oils dot com. And I
really want to thank everybody on the team here that
there's so much Daniel, Gerry gold Kite link Chance, Becca,
you tell us to funk, Jica camp So, Lar Ali Cousin,
Gray Goldie, my brother, Pitt, Mark Karnes, Chris frank Kin

(36:10):
know Jennifer, Erika and Elvis and of course Jorge. If
you've missed the miss the one where Jorge left just
a voicemail him, please go back and listen to the show.
People be talking to me about Martha Mormas. Never to
call it Marcus. Did I say Marcus? I don't know.
I'm just reading the names that people put on your man.
Do mean I can't do it all? The Daniel gets
about the names modd from what movie is that drown anyway? Boomerang? Boomerang,

(36:43):
who was the star of the movie. You know, I
mean so many stars, ry guys. I have to tell
you you guys, we just mentioned Eddie Murphy. I just
watched the new movie with Eddie Murphy on Netflix. Said
I had no idea he was in You People. Yes, hey, dog,

(37:05):
it was a good movie. I had to watch it
twice because I fell asleep the first time. I'm not
a real good movie. But he did a Netflix and
chew and he chewed out, Hey, what do you think gold?
I think it was I think it was cool. It
was a nice twist. You know. It has a it
has called you People, It's called people, has a controversial

(37:25):
it does and I like and it's what's his name
to the other guys. It's like I was waiting for it.
So here he is ready for this jonas Jonah Hill.
He marries a black girl, Okay, Lauren Laura Lendon Laura,
who's a great actors right, hustles and the funny thing

(37:46):
is dude. So it's just and it's based out of
l A and it shows and doesn't hide from all
the stereotypes and this and that, and Eddie Murphy plays
the dad and it's a real good movie. Dog, It's
a real good movie. That makes you go, ah, it's
just you know, I mean, the reason he's saying this
is because I got a cameo in the movie I
did you guys see me in it? They haven't watched

(38:07):
he haven't seen it. Yeah, there's this janitor because you
people was a good one as you get the monet
and the Eddie Murphy and not only that, I got
excited because you know, we haven't seen Eddie Murphy in
a lot of new movies, you know, I mean, and
he plays a different role where he's as good up,

(38:34):
he's in there rocking his It's my point, is everyone listening,
go to Netflix and watch the movie. It's fun and
it's a it's a good one. Speaking of movies, what's
your guys favorite movies? What's our favorite movie? That's what
are you watching right now? Guys watching on Netflix or
Hulu or whatever. You were trying to get me to
watch the Flishman? Oh my god, is in Trouble? I

(38:56):
thought that was really great. Fishman's in Trouble. Yeah, that's
I haven't peeped that. What is that? What is it on? There?
Danes and Jesse Eisenberg. It's it's a little heavy, maybe, Yeah,
but it's interesting. It's sort of this whole she's falling
apart and he's fallen apart. It's it's story of my life.
I think it's perfect for the podcast. Might be the

(39:20):
Wet A lot of comedies, honestly, prod City. You know,
a classic stoner Canada's comedy if you've ever seen it
on Comedy Central. I think that's always a good guys
lived together. We moved out to l A together. Yes,
s yeah, you know, I'm looking for a damn it

(39:41):
blue Get get your guy. Get your guy, man, my guy.
He took my Valentine's yesterday, just you. I sent you
a picture of her chose to be Valentine's Day, like
three we before balance. I'll never going to have my

(40:01):
best life with Joe Grande around. You know, let's go
around this time because I was the dinner with her
last night. You really did? I really, Dad, I know,
but it wasn't. We all got to hang out, you guys,
because I got a little Jewish me too. So it's
good our Puerto Rican so you know, so same thing.

(40:22):
I don't have any but I liked something whatever. So
any other favorite shows or movies that you guys, are
watching or something random, because I love We love catching
up to people like that and seeing what's good and
what I want to hear. You guys, listen when I
say that we work all the time. Yeah, well that's
a good thing. You know, we've been we've been bringing
this new tech to market. We've been working on our
old text so we kind of make space out a

(40:45):
little bit from what's new. But we love our old
old school stone, our comedies. But we're gonna come over
and bring a whole little firestick and watch something together,
you know we are. We'll just watch you here. You're
gonna come hang out here. We're gonna put it right
here on the TV's and monitors. We can just watch
reruns of Tom and Jerry and just smoke out right,

(41:09):
Tom and Jerry all day and just smoke and make edibles. So,
you guys, we talked about ardent cannabis dot com and
now it is what is billow dot com? W H
A T I S B I L L O W chanelle.
What is Billow? Well, Billow I think is the way
to remove the last bastion of stigma around cannabis, which

(41:32):
is the smell of the cannabis. Smoke, so it allows
you to smoke inside without the smoke or smell. Basically,
you can burn down wherever you want without bothering other people.
Because it looks like a sleep apnea machine. It does.
I've seen I've seen you guys hitting this at um
uh mj biscom but at the after party with oh

(41:53):
yeah the Happy Monkey party. Yea fair child. No wonder
why you guys kept looking so familiar. I'm like, I
get George, just think I've seen we were at that
party and everybody else has had to smoke outside, and
we were smoking inside and that and that and that's
the power of Billow, you know. Yeah, it was cold
out that night and basically you know, um, for twenty

(42:14):
five years now, I've been a heavy cannabis consumer and
I have a smoker, and um, it's always been I'm
almost forty two. Yeah, So that's why we're talking about
about using that, making the beauty product, making that you know. Yeah.

(42:34):
But um, but whether it was in the dorm room
and almost getting kicked out of the dorm room, or
when my son being young and not wanting to you know,
having to go smoke outside, or you know, Billow was
actually developed Um, when we were in Boston, so I
was living. Um, listen when I say, we're always working.
When we were in Boston, we had the office here.
Miriam lived one block over this way. I lived one

(42:55):
block over this way. So it was like we had
this little you know, um, very small tray exactly. And
so I was living above this amazing Italian restaurant called
Delfino and saying, everybody's in in Boston, I know. So
so I'm living over this apartment and um, and and

(43:16):
I'm the only flat over this apartment, I mean, over
this restaurant. And this is a great guy, great landlord. Right,
he rented to me knowing that I'm in the cannabis
industry because you know, we can face discrimination that way
and whatnot. And um, but I started getting text messages
from him saying, Chanel, it smells like we down here
in the in the restaurant. So now I'm sitting here thinking, Okay,

(43:37):
we got this guy who's from Favor, Like, well we've
got and this wasn't without trying to produce the smell.
At that point, I have like I have like thousands
of dollars worth of air filter. Ever I know how
to do it. Listen, I've been smoking a long time.
I know how to smoke in the bathroom. I know
how to have the fan in the window all that
other stuff. But it started to be the point where

(43:58):
I'm just like, hey, I'm the CEO of a end
of his company. I can't even smoke a joint in
peace on a Friday night, you know. And UM, So
I'm sitting there, and I actually was feeling really frustrated
about it because I had everything set up with like
the fan coming out and everything, and I'm like, wait
a minute, exactly. And then I'm just like I'm sitting
there and thinking, am I gonna have to move from
this place? And then I started thinking, and I'm looking
at my joint and I'm seeing the thing, and I think, hey,

(44:20):
if I had if if I had like a burning chamber,
and if I was able to you know, pull themthing together,
And basically started thinking of, wait a minute, there is
a solution for this. If I just build this solution,
then we can have it exactly. And so that was
about two years ago, and now we have two patents
on below. Um. The first patent got granted in August,

(44:43):
and then just two weeks ago we got noticed that
we got thirty more patent claims on this. So when
you think about the technology and the ability to use
it like in the home, in the consumption lounges and
hotels and everything like that. Um, and so this is
you know, our first version of the device, and now
we are, um, you know, off to the races described

(45:06):
because it looks like it looks like a camera, microphone light.
I mean, it's all kinds of looking and I'm gonna
I'm gonna warn you guys, right, you get really really
high when you smoke below because it's very concentrated hits
that you're getting. So yeah, the first thing to note

(45:27):
that really sets it apart is that every other way,
that other product that's out there right now that's trying
to contain the smell is doing it just on your exhale, right,
And that is one small small part of what is
actually causing all that smoke and smoke, and frankly, that's
the part that's the most filter because at least it's
gone through your lungs. But everything that's going off of
your joint, you're blunt, you're bold. There's so much smoke

(45:47):
that's just coming off of it. That's really what stinks
up the room, you know, And so um Chanelle's brilliant brain.
The first thing she realized was you've got to contain
it from the start. You cannot let any of the
smoke out. The minute you make the air pretty, you're
never really going to be able to clean it again, exactly.
And that's the problem with all the air fielders and stuff,
because you're you're trying to treat a smoky room. The

(46:09):
point is you need to keep the room from getting
smokey in the beginning from because you open this step. Okay,
so there's a burning chamber in here, so this is
gonna hold. I'm gonna turn it this way and look
at We designed it with designated smoke in area right here,
so whether you're allowed to smoke inside or not, you
can do it with this. So there's a burning chamber here,

(46:29):
and then there's this ash tray tray that comes out here.
We're gonna light it through here, so there's a hole
for the lighter so you don't ever have to open
this after you um put your joint in. So there's
the only joints I know you mentioned blunt. Can you
put blunts in those, or you can put blunts in there,
and it's all very modular. So the idea is is
to get this out. We know there are a lot
of people in the dead of winter emailing us saying, like,
my god, there's just something I can do, whether it's

(46:50):
mobility issues, whether they live some more freezing and they
just don't want to sit outside, right and so we
want to in their office whatever. They just want to
be under a down comforter in front of Netflix movie,
right Like, that's okay too, And so we wanted to
make sure to get this out to folks kind of
as soon as possible. But the idea of making it
so modular is really that we can continue to release

(47:11):
our accessories without leaving these initial folks behind. So we
have accessories coming for bowls we have and those are
some of that, those are some of the partnerships that
we are talking to, and even even bonds and bubblers,
right like, this is all built in a way that
you can attach them in there, and essentially all you

(47:32):
need to make sure is that the smoke is going
in through there, but the way that you consume really
doesn't have to change too much. That was important to us,
so we're joint smokers, so they started out with joint
and you put the joint in here and this rotate
so this allows you to um yep right here, so
this will allow you to rotate it during the process,

(47:53):
so you don't canoe or anything like that. So um.
It really preserves the integrity of the joint so that
you're able to and that was really paramount that smoking.
You notice setting it up, it doesn't smoke the joint
for you, and in fact, it actually burns slower in
this chamber. And so this right here, there's going to
be a little door and this opens and closes this

(48:14):
door chamber and well this is it opens and closes,
and it actually acts as like a car, right, so
it will pull that smoke in when you're ready for
it to go through the filter exactly, and you can
and you can and there's a filter in the back
here right, So this is what's going to trap all
the smoke that's coming off. And this is a carbon

(48:35):
and have a filter we went through last a long time.
And then you have refills exactly of course refills and
then and there's also the scent packs that we have
put good smell back into the air, and so it
ends up smelling. You'll see in a minute almost like
a little diffuser wasn't there. You don't have to use them,
but we have, you know, a handful of different sense

(48:56):
and they I think they're can we put one in
blues Jackie because his body next to me? Do I
smell that bad? Can I put in his back pocket?
Than appreciate you? So then so that's the burning chamber
and then to smoke from it, there's thank you, there's

(49:20):
this right here. So this tube is coming off the joint,
so you're getting direct hits right from the joint. Nothing's
filtered there, so you're just getting these straight joint hits.
And as you're inhaling like a straw exactly, and then
as you exhale, it's going to suck the smoke back
exact exactly inhale, exhale right there exactly and look at

(49:44):
this can come off. So there's different like styles of masks.
We have one that like goes over you can just
like put on your face. Can you give me a
dark Vader one? And you can like I was like,
what the hell are they doing? And I think I
walked in with the uh, you know a bowl on
their head. That's what I'm saying that we need to
get a Darth Vader, yeah exactly, or any different any

(50:04):
different branding that you want on here or whatever. But
the point is is like right now, it's this very
closed loop system where you can separate and you can
just take off a here and then exhale into here.
Right Okay, So there's lots of different ways that we
can configure it. You know. This this way shows you
the real closed loop system so that people can um,
you know, smoke in peace. So we can fire it up,
and then how do you light it when it's in there?

(50:25):
You just hit that button. It's like that like a
fire pit, like it just lights it. We have this lighter,
you put the light exactly. And in the future, because
this is modular here, we'll be able to have things
like electric lighters and other stuff like that exactly, and
then people will be able to upgrade their this machine,
um and still use the same one, but with all
the different accessories. And we learned that from artists exactly exactly,

(50:49):
same thing with the bowl inside different hoses. You can
split the hose off so you guys can you can
talk together in exactly but you can smoke anywhere, like
you can said, all of this stuff snaps off. So yeah,
anywhere that you want to be in, any kind of
situation that you want to be in. At the Hilton Hotel,
just chilling. Is it on already? Like is it that loud?
Which is not even loud at all? It's on right

(51:12):
now and there's three different settings for those who are listening.
If you can hear a little sound, it's like the
mis right next to it too. It's not even loud
at all. We we have we and I will have
both of our billows on and we're watching TV and
not even never and never like overcoes conversation and never
you know, stifles anything. It's pretty quiet and um okay,
so we're gonna light it up here. I don't know

(51:34):
why I feel like this is like one of the
coolest technologies I've seen yet because it is it really
is innovative. Cannabis uh was innovative. I like how Miriam
just made me feel like real, like you know, because
it is your motherfucker's what she basically like, because it
is Joseph. She gave me my full name too, right now,

(51:59):
you know why it is miss you're Joseph Flopez on
the show. So you can see Chanelle's kind of turning
that a little bit as as she goes, just to
show how you can kind of rotate it in there,
and I'm turning it's like a rotisserie chicken. Yeah, just
like if if you're lighting a little bit right, just
making it burn better. And then of course we have
cleaning kits that are going to be coming out really soon.

(52:20):
Super easy to clean that. That's glass on the top there,
Everything that touches the joint is silicons. It's all really
really easy to clean intentionally. Um, And like Chanelle said,
you get these we call them joint bond hits. You
get you get, you get really hum which we found
out the hard way with demos. But the beauty of
that is that, like you know, I probably smoke about

(52:42):
an ounce a week, right, so I'm a pretty heavy consumer. Yeah, yeah,
give um and Chanelle smokes about the same, maybe a
little bit more than me, but right around that same
mark and maybe a little more. Really stoners, So are

(53:02):
you smoking right now? You're in motion? Can you going?
So you're literally smoking? And if anything, I smell like
air freshener, like you said, the whole joint of the head,
it's like a lavender like flowery smell. Like this one's
like our floral and floral there it is, that's floral. Yeah,
and then there's other ones that we have that a

(53:23):
little bit earthier, like a like a fresh grass cut smell. Yeah.
The idea that we really wanted was that it like,
what do you want yours to smell? To smell like right, Like,
it does not have to smell. Everyone likes to talk
about that weed smell, but when you're sitting in a
room where everyone's been smoking, it does not smell like
a fresh crow and herbs. It sounds like an ashtray.
Feels like are you just gonna hog that? I mean,

(53:44):
she's not gonna pass. I mean it's not like you said,
you got your own straw. You guys got a guy
get straw condoms pick that right, because yeah, I ain't
no one trying to come up and hit that straw
like that. They got the little they got a little
like the things they used for the hookahs, exactly exactly.

(54:05):
So all this is, I told you guys, all of
this is really modular, right, So we can have like
the different pieces that come out here and attatch them
in there. But yeah, so everyone can have their own
well and everyone can just have their own knocks. She's nothing,

(54:25):
she's not. You're not gonna you better have your own.
Don't give soldier boy want to be all wet. So
first ever smoke wet. We I would say, we really
knew that this worked worked in the development process. We
went we were still in Boston. We went to New
York City and we were like, all right, we gotta
test this. We gotta really test that. We tested in

(54:46):
our houses. We kind of know it works there, but
we got to make sure this is really going to
do the track. We got the smallest New York City
hotel room we could find, one of those ones where
as big as this table. Yeah, and we must have
burned down in there for about six hours straight. I
would smoke the joint. She would smoke a joint. I
was perfect for hotels. Almost got a look in there

(55:06):
because I don't even feel like you're smoking. I feel
like it's lying. No, she's not, She's just down there
the whole thing. I'm happy to say we're not liars,
but she's look. I know, I want to see what
Oh my gosh, she's smoked about a quarter of that
joint already to the head. It's gone. It's gone, dude.
It just fully burns in there, Okay, and then it

(55:27):
this just wipes off the glass with a little burn
mark that just came up part of the little exactly
that came from the lighter when I was lighting it.
So afterwards, all like wipe it down with a little
we have a little cleaning solution in there. She smoked
the whole thing to the head. No, one smells nothing,
And I wanted to get closer so I can really
see how this works. So it's literally your hair as

(55:49):
she's lighting this are not lighting as you're hitting that
little straw. It's like almost she's literally drinking, you know,
a soda like literally but I'm getting but I'm getting
all that smoking. So you can see well now when
you pull it away, of course, but if if you
pull it away, I see what you're saying, you can
it's still sucking it up. But the point is you
can see that I'm getting strong hits from it, and yeah,

(56:10):
can I feel the suck? Okay, it's it's oh no,
what it is is No, I'm serious, it's like a
vacuum cleinter. Doctor, That's what I wanted to see what
it was like. And it's just like a full on
like a vacuum cleaner, chucking it up back in there
and then it will pull it through the filter. So
instead of all that smoke going here while I'm smoking
to joint, you know what I mean, it's just going

(56:31):
through here, getting trapped in here. And like we said,
the filter is gonna last quite a long time, right,
and then you just replace it. You have to actually
have some thing and while while you're not actually pulling,
are you still getting um, it's just still burning the
joint or it burns slowly when you're not hitting it,
and so it's it's very interesting. Sometimes you almost even

(56:52):
think it's out and you're like, oh no, and then
you take a little bit of inhale and it's like
it it sort of keeps that cherry on the inside,
but it does not for you. And so it's really
but if you wanted to, you know, to put it
out and stop for a minute, which you frankly have
to do sometimes. Um, you just leave it there and
you kind of close off that air section and it'll
go out in a couple of minutes and not waste
with the different adapters. Somebody wants to smoke a big fatty?

(57:15):
Can I put a big fatty in there too? Can
I do the pre rolls of like uh, you know
covered absolutely? Yeah, we do that all the time. Oh
it's not just you really could smoke a cigarette and there. Yeah,
I mean there's a future to this. Our market is cannabis,
and I think those are the people we want to
help the most right now. But certainly I think, but
you don't. You can take the cigarette money from so

(57:38):
I think the thing that we know is that right
now they're like forty thousand people that die every year
from second hand smoke from cigarettes. So immediately being able
to just like have harm reduced in that scenario, and
then and then eventually as we get this on you know,
connected in bluetooth, and we can have like a smoking cessation, right,
so you can say, you know, four cigarettes, right to

(58:00):
help people stop smoking a cigarettes and then maybe turn
them on too. We yeah, And then how big of
a system are you are you guys playing with like
putting something like that even in bigger rooms and bigger things,
because like what you have there is phenomenal, or how
about built in for your kids? Yeah. I was just
about to say, like, can I like because I had
a house to where like I just take my vacuum
to every room and I just plug it in the
wall and then oh, I'm ready, So like, can I

(58:22):
do something like that with this to where I can
just take my holes and just I'm sitting on the
couch now I'm going part of the patent right, like
the guts work and that was the really crucial part
from this point. We can get, we can get, you
can do whatever. We can say. Thank you, she gave
me the rope. What do you mean the show's over now?

(58:45):
Now we're a different show. What was the first time
the first you smoke? As I gotta see you puffing
on it a little and the best way to exhale
is to kind of put your chin on the bottom
and you'll learn for your face, Like where's the best
way to exhale it? We have some other masks coming
out and we're just blowing it right down the whole too,
like all wet too, it's all wet. I'm just like, yeah, yes,

(59:12):
it's all wet. I'm all the was like, yeah, okay, girl,
Let me get a joint with us. Saliva back. Do
you feel like it's hitting normal hard? A little more?
Hit it? Yeah, that's what she said. Harder, harder, harder,
Stop playing with it. I know he's sitting there so

(59:37):
many regrets, all these puns that you know we had
to go through and do. Come on, now, we're on
the show. Fourth graders over here? Are hi good at
what we do? Honestly, you guys are stilling me to
relight it, but you're still the least inappropriate men that
I think we come across in this industry. Thank you.

(01:00:00):
We don't worry. We're just warming up. The show's not over.
Don't get it twisted. It's actually been a long show.
You have to relte it because you didn't hit it
quick enough. Yeah, I mean I passed it over to him,
and then the smoke when smoking it, and then as
I was putting it in the filter fell out too,

(01:00:21):
so that could be impacting a little bit. But you
got it. We have all sorts of a series coming.
I mean, I see you hitting it and I don't.
I don't like to get two highs, and you know
she's the whole day. I'm joint already. She left me
the butt. I didn't wipe that off, so you can
we're all kissing each other. No that now, Miriam's like, okay,
let me hit this now to show us how it's done.

(01:00:43):
It's good. I'm high. I'm already high. So just that
quickly it is concentrated. She knows how to hit it.
Blue didn't do it like that. See Blue is hitting
it soft, like going real soft, like he's drinking a little,
you know water. She's doing it like she's drinking pull
on milkshake. But the point is is we're burning down

(01:01:04):
in here, and it's like there's no smoke anymore. That
I don't smell anything from right here. Yeah, you guys
don't smell a looking from over there, right the whole crew. Nobody.
That's important. That's a that's a very very innovative invention
for you know, people who don't want to expose their
children to the smell. I remember we did a show

(01:01:24):
and one of the guys like, my favorite way to
use is edible because I don't want my kids to
have to smell the weed. It's so easy, right. So
it's like when you talk about the stigma, that is
the biggest stigma in weed is the smell. And like
you were saying, like it gets in your hair, it
gets everywhere. And I know that. You know, all the
smokers out here, they know, either you're stuck in the

(01:01:46):
car smoking and then your entire car smells and then
you're out there and it's cold and it's uncomfortable, or
you're stuck in the bathroom, or you have to go
outside and just be uncomfortable. And that was the whole pisture. Yeah,
I like it. I can smoker are with it. I
mean I don't even need to put a joint in
there like this and just boom, put one in there.
Nobody's smelling the cigar. Everybody complains. You know, that's huge.

(01:02:09):
That's huge. That's what we say. It's not just for
the smokers. It's just as much for the non smokers
as it is for the smokers, right, because whether it's
causing problems like in people's relationships, or whether they're getting
kicked out of there and getting a victims or whatever.
You know, you're looking at me, you know, for people,
and we want to bring that peace, right, We want
to bring peace to the between the smokers and the

(01:02:30):
non smokers, that we can all live in harmony. And
that means that we in the airport, you really could,
but you could. Nobody would know what I'm saying. It
look like a sleep happy machine is. Let's stick on
this level, right, You guys are gonna love me now
or hate me. You go to the airport and that
that already allows you to smoke, which is the Chicago

(01:02:51):
Airport or Atlanta or whatever it is. Right, cigarettes, you
tell them, look, we're gonna donate fifty of these to
you guys and put them in your in there. We're
gonna all of them inside the smoking room, right. And
then you have a video that explains how to use it,
and you just donate them to them, and then there's
a QR code that they can snap to get it
for themselves at home. You know, when they go in there,

(01:03:11):
the one that the airport will love you guys, they'll
take them right then. And you're talking international news, right,
so now you're doing press releases and you know whatever, right,
and then you take that to cigar lounges and you
put it in cigar lounges and you go, hey, go
ahead and smoke all you want, but we're gonna drop
ten of them here to you guys this, you know whatever,

(01:03:32):
the best cigar lounge places, you know, and then you know,
you get them to start, they're gonna start buying them
themselves for their homes because they do have those problems.
One and two is the national you know, uh press
releases that you'll get off of that from from you know,
landing such a big account that all the airports might
start to letting me smoke again. I don't know why

(01:03:53):
everybody won't know when you say that. And I look
at this, and I the test US million Airport right now,
Vegas Airport, when they stay have those smoking rooms, they
want to put those right next to the casino and
have a thing to teach you. And then and it
has a little uh well, they'll still be the jackass
thing hits it and then that's okay, that's okay. But

(01:04:16):
the person that does use it, it's going to reduce
just like you guys can't. Still that's the big play, right,
I mean, that's not the biggest play. I'm just my
first I think that thinking of what to do with
it in that exact same main the social consumption lounges
are having the exact same issue. Just because they're getting
license to smoke. They want to be a nice areas
with walking traffic and it's cute. Yeah it is. How

(01:04:38):
much is this costing? You? Go to what is billow
that's where you can get it. Yep, it's five. On
the website. We have a hundred and fifty dollars off
right now for anyone um going on as a special treat,
but it's five generally, and then we also have wholesale
if people are interested in bringing into their stories. So
what is bill Go check it out, you guys. I
like it, I love it. I want to do the

(01:04:58):
high five with you guys before we let you guys
get out of here, as you're both so cool and
so lovely. It's been such a great time with you
guys smoking and hanging. Miriam and Chanelle will just go
in the order Chanelle and then Merriam and uh. Same question.
Question number one, how old you the first time you
smoked cannabis and where'd you get it from? M I

(01:05:18):
was sixteen and I got it from friends nice nice.
I saw it from my dad's dash used to burn.
Question number two time what is your favorite way to
use or smoke, cannabis definitely in villa, joints, joints, joints
all day in below and then followed um by you know,

(01:05:41):
all the different ways that we do in art. And
so it's it's all of them. Women. Women are they
have to love this thing, dude. I mean, well, not
all of them. But what you're saying, I mean, well, listen,
if I'm going to work and and they don't know
I smoke, this is a good way to keep it
off your hands. We face as women more scrutiny around

(01:06:04):
the things that we do and women, if we know
women who smoke, we we face a lot of discrimination
from that. And if you're a mother too, and people
are looking down on you exactly, And so listen, we're
loud and proud about it. Yeah, we're loud and proud
about it, of course. But being able to give women
the option like it can have serious impacts for people
if they go and they smell like weed, and you
know it can it can hurt their lives, you know.

(01:06:26):
And so for until we are all free and the
stigma is completely gone, we're going to keep, you know,
making things. I don't know if it be as you
say that it's not. I mean, it's it's gonna be
not gone completely. It's gonna be like, oh, you're blazing.
It's always gonna have that little you know, if somebody
won't and they judge it. I think with this right,

(01:06:46):
you'll not know the soccer mom, the football mom, the
basketball mom, the dad that's going to the stadium to coach.
They can hit this, not smell like weed, not not
stink up the house or the car before a practice
or whatever it is. So the kid doesn't go out
there smelling like lead. Plug it in your car and
you just driving around with the mask and smoking it.
I mean, it's it's all possible. I know, That's what

(01:07:10):
I'm saying. What about your favorite way to medicate? I
I My favorite is a Keith Cover joint in the
billow much more, eat hands down, and then I eat
the carb flower every night before beds. Yeah that's not
even a favorite. It's like my air, my requirement. Yeah,
that's what put you to bed, and that is that
is how I sleep. And I have carnes. And I've

(01:07:31):
had many doctors who did not believe in cannabiss treatment
and in me being their patient. Over a number actually
changed their minds because I shouldn't be able to function
at this level when it comes to pain and things
like that. I love hearing both of your guys. Is unfortunate,
you know, elements that you needed to use cannabis. How

(01:07:53):
my sisters going great? Yeah, and um, I had it
for twenty years and I actually finally got it removed. Um.
For Yeah, my son's about to be twenty two. I
got the sist after he was born and one yeah,
and um and and it grew, but it was I
managed the pain with cannabis, but it was continuing to grow.

(01:08:14):
And at a certain point they were like, you gotta
take it out, and so I did that, um a
couple of months back. And really, but they couldn't believe
how wait how long she was able to wait. That
was like, and I wish you would have brought it
with you. And it was my joint. It was my
decision though of when that happened, right, and I didn't
have to worry about But it wasn't growing though at
the time. No, No, it was meaning it was my

(01:08:35):
decision that I didn't have to do it because of
the pain, because I was able to manage that right
and and even you know, twenty years later I used cannabis.
If I had used the Thailand all in the seat
of medal, fine, you know, my liver would be shot
by now you know, what are the complications you'd be
having exactly? And it's like, I feel like cannabis keeps
me healthy, it keeps me young, and you know, and
it's uh, you know, it's a no brainer. It makes me,

(01:08:57):
it makes me feel good. Question number three of the
five with you, ladies, where's the craziest place you ever
used or smoked cannabis? I hope we don't get to say.
I was gonna say an airport. That's good, that's crazy airports.
You know what about you all the time? I think
marine was probably in a in a bathroom stall. Okay,

(01:09:23):
this is the same. Yeah, we've been. We've been in
place of smoking where we definitely shouldn't have been and um,
you know, based on international um, you know politics now,
places that we would never smoke again. But yeah, I
would say that that was probably the craziest where overseas,
in a place that we would never say that we
smoked because it because you know, it's China they're producing that.

(01:09:46):
It's crazy. How yah, won't place where you could die.
Probably go life's you know, but you know, maybe it
was Mexico. Maybe it was Mexican. It would have been
locked up over cheese. And if it was Mexico, I'm
just saying, it's not the Cortez fucking see that. You
gotta get a Mexican you know. I got a lawyer.

(01:10:11):
But I love it. This is it my first rodeo exactly. Well,
that's good. That is crazy. That's fun, fun stuff. Question
number four, the high five? What is your go to
bunchie after you get high? Mm hmm? Is there only one?

(01:10:34):
Do we have to be honest about? Be honest? Yeah?
What is it? Good much? You are just one of that?
You like? I love Cereal, so I will. I will
the blueberry. I mean, of course it's our art and kids, right,
but when I'm chowing down after I burned, it's definitely
like Honey, Bunch of the vote. I like, it's one

(01:10:55):
of my favorites. It literally isn't. I've always left the
name of it one of the best ones. I call
it HBO for sure. I love Hey, We've got an
HBO at home right now? Your TEXTI pick up some
more HBO on the way home that you know what,
I'm gonna reaching by the house next time. That's what happens.

(01:11:16):
Watch a movie and hey, we're gonna do some HBO
and chill go to you. I mean, I'm with it.
I'm with it. I'd already took a note and you, HBO,
you would be both like Chanelle, easy on the dome.
Let's go not honey buns and oatmeal? What about you, Mary,
chadar cheese melted on some type of car chip, anything. Bread? Yeah,

(01:11:44):
you got pizza. You guys make me more impostive for
dinner too. You just make me want cereal and bread.
I'm hungry for some reasons. Harvard, it's always a da
are in a car if you kids pattern, Yeah, those
are good combos in my book at any day of
the week. Question number five with the high five for
those who want to go back and check them out.
You guys, the two great websites aren't cannabis dot com

(01:12:05):
and what is billow dot com. It's been a pleasure
having you guys on the show. But if you could
smoke cannabis with anyone dead or alive, who would it
be and why it would be? The first human to exist.
I know because we talked about this closest conversation. Wanted me,

(01:12:25):
you know, the first thing like the early human early
humans like Lucy, like Adam, or or what is my
first person when we were transitioning right to become human
early hominids, the first the first remains found in Ethiopia.
Would like to see you know, that would be great.

(01:12:49):
That's a that's the first answer we've ever received of
that nature, and it's very intriguing. I like it. I
almost want to talk about it, and you both feel
the same. We maybe we're right there with it. Like
I said, we traveled together. So there's a long conversation
with anyone like let meet you. We said, this is

(01:13:13):
who we would say if we could meet anything, you
know that this would be on the list. And listen,
there's more. There are more folks there. But that's I
think that would be a good one to be God
to be able to Joe wasn't on your list. That
was number two, But I already got to do that.
You guys, it's so fun to have you on the show.
Is there anything we missed or anything that we didn't
plug what you guys were here? I don't want Miriam

(01:13:34):
to keep yelling at our self going yeah I didn't
do that. We have you one more chance right now
to plug something before we well, but then again, we're
gonna be hanging out soon again, says the last time
dinner our MIC's over to the house. I would say,
is halfway. I'm not driving away at the west west
west would um day, I would say, we covered so

(01:13:58):
much today, and I would just what I would plug
is people to be mindful of who are in cannabis
and mindful of what's happening in cannabis, to be supportive
of social equity, to be supportive of legacy operators, to
be supportive of making sure that the folks that you
know have built up this industry and actually know what's
going on and have the patient and and you know,
recreational user in the best interests in mind and really

(01:14:20):
care about this plan. And so I feel like, um
people can do that by supporting us, right because we're
we're that we're of that group, but there's a lot
of other people out there. So like where you spend
your money at the dispensary matters, where you spend your
money on the ancillary side, matters. So please, like you know,
support the small growers and the craft cultivators and the
folks from the legacy market because I think that, you know,

(01:14:42):
that's the future of real um. You know, that's what
we've always fought for. And things are a little bit
um dicey right now when it comes to the future
of cannabis on the federal level and even in the States,
and people should realize that they have a huge power
and being able to come and make some change there.
So that's that's what I would plu get the end
of it. But we really appreciate being here, being able

(01:15:03):
to show you guys all of these different things that
we do and be able to burn down and below
and to be continued. Yeah, it's more impressive than I
thought it was. She's just the whole thing, like the
joint smoke. No, yeah, just for everybody. Stay involved in
your local communities. When when you're out looking um, a
lot of things can happen, you know, very very quickly.

(01:15:24):
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