Psychedelics Market Expected To Hit Approx. $12 Billion by 2029

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were okay with my first time doing it. My point
to this is I wish I had loran oils, because
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We got the blue raspberry, we got the red velvet,
we got the blueberry, we got the we got a
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I just didn't know. I didn't I will. I didn't
know I was gonna make it for It was ironic

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because I'm on this little i G chat called Fat,
which is between me my little cousin Angela Johnson said
they go buy it at her sister Veronica. It's called
fat because that's the group chat name because we're all
fatty girls and they're all the skinniest little girls you
could have been. They're all cheerleaders at one point too,
for like major things. But it's funny. But we call
it because this is our fat secret, right, and we

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all share recipes and everything you find on i G.
And I'm showing my daughter some of the ones that
at night we're going to bed, and we're looking at
one of the ones that showed kind of banana making this,
and I was like, really, Goes, can you make that
for me? Data go, I'll try you know. I mean,
I'll try to make them. Well, hey laurn oles, they're
gonna be floun out here mid no mid April. Actually

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to do a cooking show with us Man, so I
need to. But not only that, I just need to
get some more of their oils because I can make
the blueberry pancakes with those oils, the ones we made
that one day. We're phenomenal making superstar. Oh yeah, that's
what I'm saying. So I gotta take those oils home
and next time I make some more paincakes, I'm like,
you guys want some blueberry ones, because I've tried to
do the blueberry ones where I mask the blueberries and

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they just don't come out right. And the ones we
made here, we're good. It's just perfect. There's no like
harsh texture. It's just it's just the flavorings. You know.
The rend oils are the truth. I mean, if especially
if you're cooking with cannabis, and I don't know, Peter,
if you ever use lorn oils, order yourself some out
there and take them to your friends out there when
they're using cannabis noninfused. This is not a cannabis proud.
This is noninfused. They make gummy powders, hard candy powders,

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any type of flavoring. They just make phenomenal products. Do
you guys see that story where the there's a wedding
in Florida, yep, where they hit they where they serve,
Oh my god, and the party went sideways because everyone
got loaded. They served, a few talked about and the
bride and the wedding planner got I think they're arrested.
They got arrested, your charge because they didn't tell nobody

(03:55):
that they were gonna served. But people apparently got like sick.
And that would never do that to any boody. I mean,
I work at a cannabis podcast. We're on cannabis all day,
but I will never well, not unannounced, unannounced. No, that's
not cool. It's borderline a criminal like act. I mean,
you just don't do that to people. You don't know.
Somebody sober, you don't know, if they're trying to kick
a habit. You don't know, if they just got out

(04:15):
of rehab. You don't know any of these things. You
don't know if they're allergic. There's that too, you know
what I mean, Like I'm allergic to alcohol. I go
to jail. Some people that like really six, I assume
they also didn't think about dosage. Yeah, because you don't
know what you're eating and how much you're eating. You
may think this day is wonderful. I'm about to eat
more and more and more, and before you know what,
you're sitting there with your clothes off. Depending on tolerance,

(04:35):
that thing can make you. I don't want to say
whose name, but does not have a good time. But yeah, tomorrow,
I know you've got some stories over here to share
with us. Yes, you know, just something that's you know,
always gonna be prevalent in this industry. Obviously, it's just
this this you know, disparity. You know, we talked about
everything on the show, right, politics, business, entrepreneurship, of the
antilator stuff, um, but also the disparities in this industry.

(04:59):
You know, we talk last time about how you know,
the people who have you know, spent their blood, sweat
and tears in this industry aren't allowed to do this
thing with with compliance. You know why because it's really expensive,
you know, like startup costs for canvas company could you know,
be anything around a million dollars, you know, a lot
of people who don't have that. You know, I can't
just come up with million dollars tomorrow and say I
don't have that. No, not not in these pants, not

(05:21):
maybe others. Not all of us are Peter Sieue over here.
We don't have losts everywhere like you do banking. Yeah,
literally three years. Not all of us are senior vice
presidents of Green Check, you know, verified. But now that
we have Mr Sue as part of the family, I
think we'll all be all right. Maybe he'll take us
to dinner tonight. Exactly. So following Martin Luther King Day

(05:45):
last week, Um, obviously, like we said, there's a lot
of disparities going on, you know, uh, there's a lack
of you know, black ownership in the storefronts in these
cannabis companies. So on and so forth about Biden. President
Joe Biden touts fulfilled promise on marijuana and calls for
expungements at MLK Day event. He spoke at the Spoken

(06:09):
King Church too, But I'm not mistake he did. He
spoke there, And I don't know if somebody he's used,
somebody called as a question or they brought it up,
or he brought it up. You know willingly did he
actually speak. He spoke. That's so cool that, you know,
and I was I was always on in the band wagon.
I just fellowed a few words myself that well, not

(06:30):
I don't know about the fumble, but not only that,
especially him taking documents when he was working with you know,
the come on, can't jump on Trump and back like, well,
I did the same thing, but I gave mine up legally,
I want to be I don't want to polarize anything.
But you know, something's about just came out about his son,
you know, so that's okay. The President says on Monday,

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marijuana reform is part of his commitment to equal justice,
arguing that people should be released from prison and have
their records cleared for simple possession. Now a simple possession.
I don't know if that's under an ounced. I don't think.
I don't know if that's over ten. I don't know
what what that entails, but you know it was. This
event was hosted hosted by the National Actions Network. That

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end the end, there's an acronym, you know that acronymic theater.
The President said he was keeping his prominence by providing
reliefs to those who have been criminalized over cannabis quote,
no one. I'll say it again. No one should be
in federal prison for the mere possession of marijuana. No one.
I hate to play Devil's advocate and be a jerk

(07:35):
like this, but I'm gonna do it. Do you think
he would have said that on Abraham Lincoln Day? Do
you think would have said that? What's criminal? Ship? What
you I'm saying? Like? Would he African Americans? When were you? Hey,
I'm gonna expunge all y'all, none of us got records

(07:58):
in here, Joe, what do you what do you say?
He really had two days that he could have did it?
Mar Luther King Day and see the job his day,
because all the rest of the day, Columbus Day, I
want him to give the same speech. What do you
have done that? It's a year of the rabbit this year.

(08:22):
That's right, You're the rabbit. It's just you know, it's
just funny when you got to think of where he
was at, right, so you had a church for there's
mostly black folks in there. I mean he's speaking at
the Martin Luther King Church, right, If I'm not mistaken,
it's where he did that. I had a dream speech
at Oh no, that wasn't it that we stood at
that spot. Remember I put that on Instagram. Yeah, last
week on Martin Luther King Day. That should have done

(08:44):
in that very same spot. Man, Why did not you
tell me I got the same I thought you're gonna
buy my by myself when you damn I should have
done that. Rest in peace, Gold of your brother was
with us day. I gotta tell you, I was just
talking about your brother today a matter of fact, because
one of my other friends passed away to day. I
held his hand, rubbaging through all the lines. I got

(09:05):
a black man with me. This is the moment. Yeah, so,
but getting back to the top of her hand before
we go sideways with us. But you're sitting there and
it's just ironic that you're in a roomful of majority
black folk and this is the speech you're gonna give,
And then how do you follow that up? Like, oh,
by the way, we got some KFC watermelon and kool

(09:27):
aid on the way. It's like, wow, that's a little
too far right there. But we had ended that out,
you know, Well, that's what I'm saying, like a ruthful
of black people. I want to know why. You know
that you don't know what your demographic in this room is.
You know, they could be neuroscientists, you know, astrophysicists, you know.
I mean, bottom line, it's just a little extreme. I
mean it's good. I'm game and I'm down for it.

(09:48):
It's just timing. But I mean the timing is just
as a little makes you go. At the same time,
it could be a little tone deaf, but it's also addressing.
You know what it is, you know the l and
in the room of like mostly the people who are
charged with canvas offenses are people of color. Most of
those people are Africans, Americans are Mexicans and balls of

(10:11):
ball strike strike the blacks of Mexicans are in there
trying to fight the fight. And you know, I realize
I'm taking this in a slightly different direction. But you
were talking about disparities with businesses, right, So I think
about these like cannabis companies that are out there right now.
If you look at the largest ones, so the pub
cos right, the publicly traded ones, well I would argue
that no one is killing the cannabis game per se.
The bigger companies. What they're doing is they're killing the

(10:33):
capital game. But they're good at his capital, they're good
at writing checks, they're able to have to raise money,
roll up licenses, grab you know, bland share, I guess right.
So it's not as if they are running a better
canabis company. They're running essentially a faster moving one. They're
they're they're essentially they're more like roll ups, which is

(10:55):
why if you look around pun intended and none of
those big ones are minority owned by no means, I mean,
not a lot of them. Maybe a couple of them,
But for the most part, it goes back to I'm
sure you guys heard this over and over again. It's
like imagine being, you know, a person of color locked
up for cannabis in a federal prison, and then uh,
you know William Montgomery. The third is, you know, walking

(11:17):
the streets with a multimillion dollar cannabis company on his
back under his resume. You know what I mean? If
you look around, look look at the again, the bigger companies, right, well,
what do you see a lot of in the senior
ranks h bankers? Right? You know? Why? Why why is
that venture capitalist with money? They're good at finance, moving
it not they're not necessarily good at cannabis, right, absolutely not.

(11:39):
And it's it's those people and we we see him
all the time when you go to the I don't
want to name the events that we go to, but
it's you look at some of these people and it's like,
I don't think you have the biggest or like most
profound experience in cannabis. I think you're in the cannabis business.
I think you're in the business of cannabis. I think
you're in this space. You're obviously at this conference, this event, whatever, um,

(11:59):
so you are a business owner. But I just don't
think they understand. And maybe it's not cannabis. If you're
if you're in the automotive industry and you've never worked
in a mechanic shop, you know, but you are the
VP of Chrysler Dodge, you know all those guys. It's like, Okay,
you know something about the automotive industry, but you don't
know how to change the oil the oil you know

(12:21):
how to do your own old oil change, you've never
done your own I'm not mad at that, though, I'm
not mad at some of these businessmen that are doing
business in this space because we need the professionals in
those professions to come and give your expertise. Right. So
I'm not mad or disappointed, but you know, we just
need to see some more diversity, which is good. But
you're just seeing that as Peters here, because the other

(12:43):
day you're just like all these finance guys getting in
the mid of Now. Well, you gotta realize, once once
the wants the minority majority Lee knows how to deal
with finance, then we can probably take up that space
and we can we can use that that adversity, right,
we can use the fact that we're able to triumph

(13:05):
through strife, you know, we can use that that superpower
that we have. But we still have to understand the finance. Correct.
You see what I'm saying. If you don't understand money,
I don't care how much hustle you got, I don't
care how much of a legacy holder you were. If
you don't have that understanding of how and what to
do with money, I'm not the numbers, then you'll you'll

(13:26):
just mess the space up. Anyway. You need, you need
someone that can take you under their wing and be like,
hey man, look that's what you do with money. He'll
tell you what to do with them. In any industry
where there's cannabis, automotive builders that mentor there's builders and
their sellers. It's a good thing for those type of
mentors to be in this space because now we have

(13:46):
like it's kind of like rubbing shoulders with someone when
when was the last time you was able to sit
down with a banker that that holds millions and millions
of dollars or he has you know, hundreds of millions
of dollars in his portfolio that whatever day, let's do
it in Peter's right here, Peter, I would love to
sit there and have a Peter. What's I mean? Call

(14:12):
us up right now if you want to talk to Peter.
If you call me and say give me Peter's numb,
I'm gonna give it to you, but only call after midnight. Yes,
it's Cannabis Talk one oh one. I can't believe Joe
Biden really started this off at this segred with that
thing right there. We'll be right back when we come back.
You guys, I got a story. When you talk about money,
that's talking about raising twelve billion dollars by twenty nine.

(14:36):
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a lot of money that's coming into the game. But
let me start by asking you guys a question. Do

(15:17):
you guys think people like vets and veterans that it
is not vets that are animals veterinarians, not veterinarians exactly,
but you know, vets and just normal people have used
more cannabis to help treat their elements like the pressure
and PTSD and trauma. Do you think that's fair to say? Yes, right,
because they've been treating their elements, right, Like we've seen

(15:40):
this happen because of all the things that they go to,
So it's fair to say that it's helped raise the
sale of cannabis right, you agree, would you guys agree?
I would think so here you agree. So because of
learning that cannabis can help with elements that are I
would normally take a pill for, or our doctor would

(16:00):
give me something for, you would say that people have
turned towards cannabis for those things. Right, Yes, everybody agrees
with that. Older people now are using it for pain
and a bunch of other elements. So now this is
the where it's going because of cannabis doing that. I've
seen this story you guys that has psychedelics are expanding

(16:25):
to it expected to make twelve billion dollars by twenty
nine by recent market analysts are showing that on a
global level that that's what this is going to be doing.
Now when you talk about this and you think, oh
my god, twelve billion by the global market for psychedelics

(16:46):
is expanding. Why for the psilocybin, the ketamine, the LSD
is expected to grow and grow and grow eleven point
eight two by growing to an estimated four point eight
seven by the end of two is what it made
it last year four seven. That was two last year.

(17:07):
It's now, right, So that's four point eight seven billion.
Not only that, just look about here in the office
when we have events, how many chocolate How many times
have we seen it? Now? All these companies popping up, Peter,
do you see it in New York? Popping up everywhere? Like?

(17:28):
I feel like I see it everywhere in California. I
wouldn't say everywhere, but yeah, it started to pop up.
I do think it's a much smaller market relative to
let's say, you know cannabis. First, Well, the market includes
several psychedelic drugs being used. Are researchers. They're doing it
to treat you ready for this, a wide range of
mental health disorders, including the psilocyber lsd academy, M D,

(17:53):
M A, G, HB, and others. Now, this report is
also highlighted several major players in the worldwide psychedelic markets,
including you ready for this? This is the part that
just baffles me. Dog, listen to some of these companies
Jensen Pharmaceuticals, kick My Pharmaceuticals PLC. And as I say

(18:15):
these companies, you may want to really take a look
at him and say, what when do you want to
put some money into compass c O M P A
S S vary in V E R R I A
N fightser fer Fer Incorporated, Hoffman Laroch Ltd, Jazz Pharmaceuticals Inc.

(18:36):
Pharm Mateer Inc, Abidal which is a B A D E. L.
Sell On Pharma s A. And neuro r X Inc.
These are companies that are trying to attain a firm
grip over the intensity competitive market. You guys, And when
you look at this and say somebody's dealing with same

(19:00):
kind of concepts as cannabis, I've heard nothing but great
things about micro docing this, right. I've literally had several
conversations with a lot of veterans, and not only that,
Mary from uh the Elevation Nations, she was speaking on it,
and then we had a private consist exactly. She's a

(19:25):
world renowned telling me, Joe, this is what it's doing
for people, this is what it's doing for athletes, professional
athletes talk. She wasn't just saying athletes that are this
and that. So I'm hearing from world renowned mental doctors
that work on the brain, not just mental psychiatrists, you know, neuroscientists, doctors.
And then I'm reading a story like this going you guys,

(19:48):
this is about to blow up with It's moving faster
than I thought it was gonna be moving to where
you know, this is cannabis talk one on one. But
guess what when we first heard how it went legal
in Oakland, you can get pilicize, criminalized, criminalized. And I
just look at New York being a place where or

(20:08):
even Los Angeles places where you know, you see heavy
homeless population, right, And as I say this, I'm wondering,
I'm just wondering would it help with these people that
are living in these conditions and would it be beneficial
for them? And I don't know that answer. And I'm

(20:30):
saying because I started off by asking you, guys, do
you see cannabis taking place of these mental places and
physical things? And you all said yes, So go ahead, Peter,
go So I have a psychology background that, um, I
think I think the issue here is that, um, you're

(20:52):
talking about a pretty small pie like it's it's a
it's a it's a very niche market, right, So, first
of all, the percentage of people willing to admit that
there is a a men health problem, and the all
of that percentage that will actually go out and seek help,
seek assistance as opposed to self medicating through alcohol drug use. Frankly, right, Um,
so our porn are hookers are you know whatever? Everyone's

(21:16):
got some type of vice in other ws. What I'm
saying is, yes, I I see the future with psilocybins
and you know, whether it be mushrooms, micro dooce or whatever,
I think the problem is and that this this is
my just just my opinion that it's going to have
to be a minister. It's gonna to be professionally ministered.
So in other words, there's gonna be no recreational aspect. Yeah,

(21:37):
I don't see that. Well, that's where it's at right now.
It's only recreational right now, it's not even being so
that's my point to this. Yeah, but let's let's you know,
do you do you necessarily see? And is it a
good thing? Should people be able to walk into a
you know, micro dos T shop or whatever, right and
pick up a little little micro dos t. I'm gonna,
you know, counter your comment by saying, isn't that how

(22:00):
they felt about cannabis? Should you be able to go
to a store and pick up a joint? No, that's
the devil's lettuce. Well we knew you can't. I don't.
I don't know if there's been a new report on this.
There's been no reported overdoses on canvas. Correct, people do
freak out. People do freak out. You think we'll give
you that. I will give you that. And I've been

(22:21):
on some mushrooms where I've been a mess back in
the day, and I've seen my boys a mess. I'll
give you that. And I'm not saying, but I will
say this isn't that with fucking alcohol when you're drunk
and you're throwing up, or you're shipping your pants or
you're in fucking icy you because you've drank too much,
but drank yourself to death. No, I had a friend

(22:41):
that drank himself to death at so I mean it happens.
Let's look at food, gluttony, obesity, it happens with food.
So don't sit here and give me the oh yeah,
I've taken from you and I agree with you. But
I'm saying, Um, they did scientific we did. We did
a show on that with when we had old dudes.

(23:05):
Tim Shoulder Funk Guy Farms was on the show here
and we did pull that a report of how I
vice did a vice in an article about a couple
of publications about how shrooms are the most you know,
the safest drug out there. You'd safer than cannabis, you know.
And I know people who pre first psychedelics over cannabis.
They won't they won't hit the weed. Like, oh wait,
you have one girl of that, I mean, you know,

(23:26):
I mean she's admitted to it on the show. I
think a couple of times. Right, you know, I'm going
to play the Devil's after here and say that the
problem is this, right Like, you're gonna have to get
from from a pharmaceutical gray perspective. You're gonna need to
be able to get that down to we're talking like milligrams,
Like I know exactly exactly what's gonna happen like on
the lap test, right like, and it's got to be
like we'll never know because your body is going to

(23:48):
be different than is my point, neuro diversity, bio diversity.
That that's exactly my point though, right Like, if you're
talking about FDA approved, this product will perform like this
nine nine end of the time, I just don't think
that's happening with well, Peter, I feel like I want
exactly what you're saying on both levels cannabis and for

(24:10):
this psilocybin on however you want to use it right,
Because I have always preached from this seat research, research, research.
I want to be able to look at and say,
if I want to clear this headache, I need this
much cannabis in a pill. Are this half a joint?
But give it to me at two hundred pounds mail,

(24:32):
this is what your cannabis. You should be two hundred
pound Mayo. I'm just using myself as an example. Bad
and had knee surgar. I've just hurt my knee walking
and it's killing me. The same way I know that
four ad bills is what I take when my body's
sore after playing golf. I take four advils because that's
I know my max dose. But I'm saying, can you

(24:53):
do that? Well? I want the Well, that's what I'm saying.
I want that so I wanted. I'm I'm agreen with
you and saying I want that type of research on
all aspects of everything that they're claiming to be because like,
even for this story to come out, I would love
for everybody, and not only that, if your child has epilepsy,

(25:13):
if your child suffers from whatever it is, right instead
of these medications that the doctors prescribing do you that
are addictive, that are solar. You've said this before, so
I'm not gonna I'm not busting you out about this.
He was taking pills at one point as a child
for not for whatever reasons he was taking him for,

(25:34):
you know, I mean, but but my point is he
was taking pills as a kid that you shared on
the show. I thought about this when I read this point.
How great would that be if not on that when
you're using cannabis and now you use cannabis for it.
He snapped at me a few times when I quit
the compliment the guy, for God's sakes about something he
took me the wrong way, and I'm like, dog, what
are you not on right now? But my point, when

(25:54):
when we have these type of relationships with people and
knowing them, why wouldn't we want some body to use
something that's less harmful to your body? You were on
it for how many years as a child, and you
know it's just it could be a replacement if we
have that research, Peter that I agree with. You know,
I actually heard more Cuban talk about this and I

(26:14):
thought it was really insightful. The way They were asking
him like, hey, what do you think is like the
next big thing? And he was talking about personalized medicine.
He said, because this idea is that, like you know,
I take two evils, you take three. He's like, that's bullshit.
You know your body doesn't work that way. But we've
boiled it down as if that's true, right, Like, like

(26:35):
you go to the doctor's, they weigh you, they say, okay,
you should take X like that that's just not how
it works. Now, keep in mind he's talking about like
professional that can actually afford this like complete I mean
a doctor will check you out, check your check everything,
and then say here's exactly how much you know, iro
don you need because your body in takes this much
oxygen water. But everybody thinks of water to day, not

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everybody to get in the water day. I only need
to leaders. Somebody that's you know, only a hundred pounds,
they need a leader and a half because at some
point you're literally detoxing the vitamins in your body, so
one size and so. So his point was kind of
what we're saying here, which is like, well that the
reality is that someone actually needs it to be to
do a study on each person, give kind of a

(27:21):
diagram of like, Okay, this is what this person needs
if we wanted them to have, you know, to get
them up to average nutritional value or whatever the case
may be. So same thing really with like psilocybin and cannabis,
Like everyone reacts differently, Um, how do you do that?
Can you mass produce personalized healthcare dynamic DNA? I like that,

(27:45):
you say, Mark Cuban says that, And I can just
foresee that being in our crazy future. Meaning I go
back to childhood and thinking, you guys, none of us
as a child, but I can face time my children
somewhere right now. Nobody thought I can watch a game
on let alone a phone that I can walk around with.

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When I was a kid, dog, we didn't have cell phones,
let alone email me. When you had the wire hanger
for the antenna and the TV you could and you
couldn't move that or and and you had a cable
connected with you wanted to change the channel, First off,
you had to go and dial tink tink, tink, tink tink.
And then it was a cable connected to it. It
wasn't wireless. And I mean so as you say these Peter, Sue.

(28:31):
Maybe Doc, we are moving fast in this world and
advancing to so many things that I'm sitting here here
and you say that, going, I don't think it's that
far fetched. Why not? Because I could spit into a
freaking can and cup send it somewhere and you could
tell me more about my life and my family dynamic,
Like how the hell could you do that? You know?
They say, science sufficiently advance will look like magic to

(28:54):
someone that doesn't know it, right, So yeah, I agree,
and I think I think unfortunately that is what we need, though,
if you really want to talk about and we're talking
mine altering drugs that like you might never come back from,
by the way, right like people have there are those
horse peop They don't come back the same, you know,
you know what. And that's the part to that, Peter,
that you say that, and that's the part that freaks

(29:16):
me out. I agree with and I've met him, seeing him,
it's just like you're you're taking me down. That you're
right moment again and once again, Florida, good comeback on
that one. But to that element, when I see and
think of how the benefit could be, I'm looking at

(29:37):
it more of the medical aspect. I'm not really thinking
recreationally and partying, so to speak. I'm looking at it
as with research and with things being done. How this
movement could be so beneficial, because like I said, it's
it's something that's growing naturally, right, it's better on your body.

(29:58):
And if you're micro dosing this even right now, how
they're using it, just like they've started to use cannabis
this way. And I wish the same research would go
to cannabis too, folks. It's not that's I'm saying, and
in cannabis because because I want to be able to say,
put a cannabis in a capsule to help me feel
less pain. So I'm gonna tie all of our topics up.

(30:20):
So I foresee this problem though, right, disparity, which is
to say, let's say, let's say the science existed today
that you could spin in the cup and I could
spit out a report that says, here's what you need,
here's everything you need, and you will be perfectly happy.
I can cure your cancer, I can cure your COVID.
Here's here's what you need. Right, So I hear me

(30:41):
that cup. I heard the same ones that said, how
we will instantly end life as we know it if
somebody discovered a way for people to live forever, because
it'll either be so expensive that only rich people can
get it, or to be so cheap that everyone will
just live forever, and again the world will just end. Right.
So the problem with personalized but we're discussing here this

(31:03):
medical utopia is that only rich people are going to
be only pro athletes are going to be able to
get this, Like, dude, this is what you need. This
is how we're gonna get accessibilities. The next question, well,
I I would disagree with that, bro, like if if
you need a board certified psychiatrists to monitor you. Tried

(31:24):
this Joe, so that didn't work. Tried this dough so
that didn't work. Tried this like do you know how
much that takes? Well, they did that before with the
pills that their kids are taking now, right, Like, not
for everybody in the world. But but I'm not saying
everybody and they were. I'm saying helping these people that
need it are those who want to do the trials, right,
Like all these drugs that came out before there was

(31:45):
trials and you signed up for it, are they did
it on a monkey or a rat, you know what
I mean. So that's what they're gonna have to do.
Any it doesn't pay for candidates, right and not yet,
but hopefully. I mean, I look at what you're saying
as in and this is maybe a poorer analogy, but
you know, the first big t vs were the big,
big block ones, and now everybody can get a plasma
TV for less than two hundred bucks, now you know

(32:05):
what I mean, but exactly so my point to that
is technology advancements from a TV standpoint um to your
health being okay, we could never do the DNA. The
DNA was for only rich people at one point. Now
for that's the seventy nine bucks. I've seen the cheapest
fifty nine bucks. You can buy certain ones and you

(32:26):
can find out your whole family dynamics. But before that
was you know what I mean. So as you're describing
it right now thinking it, you're right, it is only
for those right now, But so was the big TV.
So was the DNA. So we're all these so wards
of Mercedes. Now you've got a small Mercedes that you
can buy for you know two, you know, and nobody

(32:46):
can afford the testa. Now you can for another day.
So I can see this going into a direction where
it is possible, and I'm hoping that's the case because
I personally believe that if monitored right, my gut feels
like because it's more natural and the research I've read

(33:10):
and seen for the psilocybin, how it's opening up new ideas.
Is there bad? Yes, just like my parents both died
from obesity and diabetes complications because they ate themselves to death.
Damn there, same thing with food in my book, you
know what I mean. So you can kill yourself too
by using too much of the psilocybin as well, without

(33:30):
a doubt it could o d You can go crazy
and go cucko, you know what I mean. I remember
my mom on her deathbed going, Mom, why are you
don't you listen to the doctors and need healthier? Same
concept if you're doing too much of anything, you know
what I mean. So when I look at this, I
take it personal, going I don't know, in moderation, if
you do it the right way, so to speak. And

(33:52):
that being said, it's all micro dosed, but doing that
research and if we can't get that research, then take
it easy on it. Yeah, I mean you don't need
to take an eighth of mushrooms frols. No, no, no, no.
That's what you've seen in the packaging of those companies
that you've you know that we've seen who have come
in our building, who have shared their products with us,
you know, on their packaging, they'll have a dosage chart

(34:12):
of like taking this much. This is considered a micro dose.
This is considered a regular dose. This is considered a
macro dose. This is considered a full face. You know.
But for somebody that little micro do exactly, this is
a burning man. And then but like that's you know,
it's that micro dose might be a micro dose to
somebody like you know that has somebody half the size
of me, you know something. I think that's one of

(34:34):
the problems with like edibles can't cannabis must, right yea.
So say you're say you're smoking, kind kind of like
when you're drinking, if you've had it, had enough, you
can you can say cant monitor you shouldn't. It's some monitor.
But like if you drop a hundred milligram edible, that's
that would way too much for you. You're kind of stuck,
you know exactly. There's no going back for them. So
that's why in public like it's and with the mushrooms too,

(34:55):
they're like acid as well. That's such a long trip,
and you know mushrooms is a long trip. You have
to commit to the party if you're gonna do that.
It's like, okay, we're gonna do that tonight. Well, what
time we're starting? You know what I mean? It's it's
a planned sanction going to soccer exactly. You know. So
I don't know. I brought up the story and I
just think it's intriguing. I think it's the next big wave.

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if they have a spot in New York where you
can just smoke weed in a room. Do they have
that out there put like where you can logally not
illegally right, Well, Elevations Nations you get the membership. They
have certain rooms at their spots where you can actually

(36:03):
smoke cannabis in the room, which is unbelievable. How do
they do it? Run out of hotel? Yeah, you just
rent their hotel room and they're like, hey, yeah part
of this. Yeah, if you're part of you can come
into our rooms. And then they have the other rooms
there as well. And I've thought not mistaken. Is that
the story you got right now? Force a lot? Yeah,
so I actually we knew about we grabbing micro Actrick

(36:24):
you know what you're doing. We knew about the the
claredon out in Uh Carrieden is out of the Phoenix.
It's a boutique hotel. I was taken over the Elevations Nations.
They got about somewhere about fifty or sixty rooms. Uh
they're floor it's floor four twenty and there's four four
twenty b all these are cannabis themes roomed we that's
at the fourth floor. Is that they're doing that fourth floor?

(36:48):
Twenty rooms on the fourth floor all designated to smoking cannabis. Yes,
and every room like weed maps house of the room.
I think we have a room. I think dimes getting room.
I've heard numerous people getting their own themed rooms. So
that's in Phoena. You know, there's different rules here and there.
You can smoke completely in your room. Outside of your room.
It's a Canvaba's Friendly hotel, but only you can't smoke flower.
You can smoke vape pans and stuff like that too

(37:09):
as well, because it's also it's a twenty one year
old hotel. But you know, again, Cannabis Friendly. That's their
location in Phoenix. They also have a location that we
just found out today and well I didn't find out today,
but they just released it today. In Las Vegas, AH.
The press releases out releases out at the Artisan Hotel
in Las Vegas, Nevada. This is gonna be amazing for

(37:33):
Las Vegas folks because, I mean, let's just face it,
folks are smoking weed in the rooms in a lot
of places there. Oh dude, I was the stoner going
out with my friends out there, and it's funny. It's
like Vegas, you can do most things. I don't want
to say what you can do, but cannabis was like
the you would spend a weekend in jail for cannabis
and Nevada BA. But just say you're coming in from Kansas,
where it's not legal at all, right, far from it, right,

(37:56):
and you go and you go, I'm gonna go to
Vegas and I'm in Nevada. I want to rent the
room there at the Artisan, the ultimate cannabis experience, and
then I can go to a dispens ree, grab my sack,
come over there and smoke in my room all legally.
I remember checking in for MJ Biz and like, the
first thing I noticed in my room was, you know,

(38:17):
the no smoking sign, but it had a pot leaf
instead of a regular cigarette, the no smoking weeding. So
next year, MJ. Bis Connor. This year, rather, we're gonna
stay at the Artisan Hotel. Elevations Nations're gonna hook it
up and we're gonna I might be a little late
to a recording a day one. It wouldn't be the

(38:40):
first time. No, So I don't know. I think it's great,
you know, providing it's not just the fact that they're like, oh,
we can smoke our pot, you know in this room.
You know, it's it's creating a safe place, you know,
a lot of people don't feel safe leaving the hotel
room one because they might get in trouble too. They
don't feel comfortabling out. People develop an anxiety when they smoke.
They'd rather be in their four walls, which totally fun,
you know, smoking your comfort of your own home. And

(39:02):
it's not like New York. We can't just walk around, ye, Peter,
come to New York. Yeah, looking around we want to
you know, you can't walk around with your fort, Peter.
Does it really smell like weeding Times Square? Like that's
like it's kind of like debate. These people are smoking
read on the L train. These people are at the
Staten Island Ferry. These guys are just chirping up really

(39:22):
everywhere you go. Yeah, it's bad, but it's just the
whole Yeah good bad Michael Jackson, bad exactly. But it's
it's you know, some lower lower in the Southwest, including
a Motel six and two soon they have as well too.
So they're just taking these older hotels that you know,
maybe not be as populated and just saying, hey, if
we build it, they will come, and damn near they

(39:44):
are coming. Bro I don't get it. Why is it room?
You know? So there's been Okay, thank you, I've got
to throw my phone at you. We're about to call
I'm hold on. Peter's on so many boards, and he's
gonna ask, what do you I don't get the four
comment this dude over here it is it's a large
about to answer them. Well, it's because it's the four. Hey,
we don't, we don't. This is an educational platform here,

(40:08):
we don't. We don't bash on ignorance. That's why I
was like, are you serious? Yeah, because we're gonna ask
if I'm there exactly what We don't know him that well.
But that's why I was like, wait a minute, You've
got too many accolades on your name to not know
this one green check verified over. It's just so cool.
Now everything that's happening on Vegas. Vegas has now to
professional sports team, the Las Vegas Nights, the hockey team,

(40:28):
the my my Las Vegas Raiders you know, are are
now in Vegas. So those attractions that make them say hey,
people like sports man don't see exactly are you Giants?
What are you? Giant? Your Jets? Just kidd who is
your team out there? In New York? The Giants just
lost so both teams. We gotta we gotta both team

(40:51):
dating wagon. You here, what about basket? Who's your basketball team?
I don't follow that. No basketball? No oh da, you
didn't jump on Kim HiPE over there too. What's his name?
That the Asian basketball player Jeremy Lynn. It's not I'm
just saying you're Asian. I thought you'd support your own.
For God's sake, you had one that hit stories. I'm medelievable.

(41:14):
I see that kids story. I mean I not only that,
I jumped on the bandwagon of him, like I was
a fan and not he was. Jeremy Lynn was whooping.
He just didn't see an Asian kid do what he
was doing. The story behind it, bro, Yes, he went
to Hart he was sleeping on his boy's couch before
that game. Fan of that dude, Man, I'm not fronting,
That's what I'm saying. I jumped on his bandwagon. I

(41:36):
started watching his games out of nowhere, Like, wait a minute,
why am I watching this game because of Jeremy Lynn?
Like this dude's legit going back to this hotel. It's
it's planted. Thirteen is getting involved with these guys planning
thirteen the LAS Vegas location is the World's not only
that that now on the on the sun not the
Sunset strip, on the Las Vegas strip. And I'm not mistaken,

(41:57):
they just opened up the first dispensary as well. Yes,
right on the strip of Hardy's. I mean, Hardy is
definitely out in Vegas. You got you got a great
forget the name that open, but there's one if if
I'm not mistaken, or was it the Sunset Strip that
I read a story on one of those strips, I mean,
shout out to Hardy and playing at thirteen. I know
there's a cookies out there, all those guys man, but
it's just it's creating this a great attraction. I think
what I what I first heard as a rumors when

(42:19):
Las Vegas started Nevada rather was thinking about, you know,
cannabis legalization. I heard that, you know, all those mob
boxes saying we don't want a bunch of stoners here,
we want these fools drinking and gambling stoners. You know,
don't like that. On the contrary, you go to m J. Biscon, Bro,
what are all of us doing. We're at the crafts table,
We're at the bars, bro, We're still hanging out we're
still doing. I wonder what that analytics are gonna show. Though.

(42:40):
If I would imagine people are definitely spending more money
when they're drinking than when they're smoking, I would just
gutly think it because the alcohol really makes you so
much more pulsive. Thank you, that's a good word to use.
I like that better looking funnier when I drink, drinking eyes,

(43:01):
you know, I mean, I agree, what's you know what
I mean? Though, I don't know what I bet that
The research is absolutely well. It just it just depends
on like, Okay, if I'm if I'm gonna go have
a drink, I don't. I don't need a lot when
I drink. Honestly, I'm going out parting and I forget
to eat type of thing. But I'm also spending on

(43:21):
more drinks. I'm spending money on you know, maybe I'm
gonna get a table or something like that. When you're
when you're consuming cannabis, you're definitely gonna eat. Right when
you consume cannabis, and then you go to like a
high end restaurant like a mashtro Is, like a morn
steakhouse and all those guys, it's it's a great experience.
You know, search to Sleigh maybe after some silusbin or
some after a join or two. Search to Slah is awesome. Bro,

(43:41):
Why wouldn't you Why wouldn't Las Vegas allow cannabis? And
they're in their doors, you know, So I think it's
gonna be great. Rate is a lot lower. So for example, uh,
most people, I think one one joint is good. So
then versus several drinks. Do you think there's gonna be
an inflation in Nevada? Possibly one, because it's Nevada, it's
Las Vega. Is hey, you're in Vegas. You played by rules?

(44:02):
I mean Vegas a great goose Sota goes for about
twenty bucks, you know on the strip. You know, I
think it's a question of building, like anything else, right,
it's building around that business. You know. It's kind of
like a Broadway right, So so it's it's a big
industry for us. But actually, how a typical Broadway show
makes money is is you know knick knacks. Cho said,
you're buying stuff like that. The show breaks even if

(44:22):
if it if it comes close to selling out. That's
not how they make money. Just like restaurants. Restaurants, they'll
make money selling food, they sell alcohol, gotta have a
liquid license. That's a good point there, Peter. Haven't you
been at what's your last Broadway show you've seen? Uh,
let me see the last one is so was Hamilton's.
That's not really Broadway, I guess. But I would love

(44:43):
to see handle. I want. I definitely want to see
The Book of Warmon you know what I've seen, but
I've seen it in out here and I've never seen
a show on Broadway actually in New York. But I'm
the biggest fan of The Lion King like that was
to me when I've seen it. It's just the dopest
like I was, and ah with it. A matter of fact,
I literally still love the movie where I watched it

(45:03):
on ABC the night after the kids went to Bad.
The new one that's like the real like looks like
the real animals on it. I mean, I just love
that movie, like literally love that One's a great movie.
I mean to play, I love the movie. I love
everything about is just great. Man. It's It's a great
Father's Day film and it's one of those ones that
gets me every Oh. By the way, speaking of new movies, Goldie,

(45:24):
everyone listening, dog Gone on Netflix. You have to see it.
Dog d O G G O n E. You have
to see it. I told you about it. You didn't
watch it yet. You know how I know you didn't
watch it yet. You didn't tell me it's a winner, Goldie.
You want a Netflix and Chill dog Gone, Peter Sue

(45:48):
dog gone, gonna go home on that flight. Well, not
with me. I'm just saying in general with somebody, but
both of you. Everybody? Do I misunderstood that? You know,
I'm just saying, you, guys, he doesn't like me that much.
I did it on a solo bolo tip because it
was the number one movie on Netflix, and I watched
the trailer and then we watched whatever movie we watched

(46:11):
with the kids. I forget what it was, but anyhow,
they didn't want it because my son didn't want to
watch it because he because it's gonna be sad, so
he didn't want to watch it. So I watched it
about myself to see if you look gonna be sad.
It's a rollercoaster, but it's okay. You know what I'm saying.
It's it's scart. It's one of those like hear me now,
believe me. Later if you watch it eight what's her number?

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And my wrong and my line? If you've seen it
dog Gone help me you loved it as much as
I did. It's Cannabis Talk one on one. Peter Sue.
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