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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Cannabis Talk one on one featuring Blue with
Joe Bronde, the world's number one source for everything cannabis.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
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Speaker 3 (00:11):
My name is Blow.
Speaker 4 (00:12):
Alongside of me is mister Choke Bronde and you are
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Speaker 5 (00:16):
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Speaker 4 (00:17):
We are the greatest cannabis show where we like to
talk to the greatest companies that are at Champs. And
when you think about the greatest companies, you guys, you
think of some big names like how aren't throw other
companies out there like Apple, Nike, you know what I mean?
They're just some companies like ABC, Fox They come to
mind when you think of big companies, they are just
(00:37):
companies in general, Cisco Systems, you know four Yeah. And
then when you think of Champs and you think of
what's going on here, what are some big companies Like
if do you think of sex, you think of raw doggy,
you think of smoking, you dig of raw and it
goes from smoking to sex and it's raw doggie or raw.
Speaker 6 (01:00):
Raw dog.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Fucking man is the.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
Man that created raw and it is impressive to always
see you at these events because you carry the look
that we all do as entertainers and brand ambassadors of
what we do.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
We own cannabis off one oh one. This is what
we do.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
He's the CEO. You're the CEO and owner of raw.
It's an honor to see what you do events after event.
Speaker 5 (01:27):
You take it to the.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Next level from the bigger raw joints.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
That I have one of these fucking stupid things at
my house will fuck you because I don't want it
at my house, and you're an asshole for doing that.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
I got one of my jass one of my studio
blows up in my house. You print, and that's why
I don't like you.
Speaker 6 (01:49):
He said, why don't I have it?
Speaker 3 (01:50):
This is cool, I'm gonna take it, take it.
Speaker 5 (01:53):
I don't want it.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
How did you come up with this brilliant company marketing?
Speaker 3 (01:59):
We're you home? Jerk it off with a soft and.
Speaker 5 (02:04):
Come on.
Speaker 7 (02:05):
I used to have one little tiny store in ninety three,
and I was a collector of rolling papers. Back then,
I freaking loved rolling papers. How many people can say
they actually love them?
Speaker 4 (02:14):
Why do you collect them? What do you mean collect them?
Speaker 7 (02:16):
So when I was a little kid, my dad used
to do magic tricks with his rolling paper.
Speaker 6 (02:19):
His volume up magic tricks.
Speaker 7 (02:21):
Really, he would do this thing where he would light
his rolling paper on fire and throw it in the
air and it would just vanish, and was the only
magic trick he knew. So when I was like five,
I was like, oh my god, that is amazing. So
because of that one magic t trick, I fell in
love with rolling papers, and I began collecting them long
before I should have this, back before they were even
age restriction.
Speaker 5 (02:38):
And I had a great collection of papers.
Speaker 7 (02:39):
So ninety three, when I was in university and I
opened my first shop, I used to get in whatever
people asked me to bring in the store.
Speaker 5 (02:45):
Whenever they asked me, I brought it in.
Speaker 7 (02:47):
Some dude asked me to bring in a certain brand
of cigarettes made in America that are natural.
Speaker 6 (02:52):
Say they're natural, all right, So I can't say the
brand natural. You know who they are. So he'd been
and the guy was lecturing me on how these cigarettes.
Speaker 7 (03:00):
It's a freaking natural, dude. They're different than every other cigarettes.
They gore great, great, So they come. I order in
the guy a case of it. He comes in, I
sell him a pack. He offers me one, and I
used to smoke cigarettes back then, so I pull it out,
but he pulls it out and hands it to me,
and it's that same bright, white, bleached bullshit that I
was used to from every commercial cigarette, and I was like,
what the fuck is this? So I was very upset
(03:20):
about it, and that night I was getting I was smoking,
getting really high, and I realized, I thought to my
whole collection, which was probably maybe a thousand deep at
that point, and I realized that we, meaning we humans,
we smokers, had never made the paper that I was
envisioning when he said natural. I'm thinking it's going to
be this like unbleached, natural, translucent brown paper. I'm going
to see the tobacco through it. It's gonna be fucking beautiful.
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And instead it was like filled with calcium carbonate, all
the usual shit. So that night I realized that we
had never made it. We had never made it, and
that's when I had the idea for it. I even
knew what I wanted to call it, because I was
a huge man of Big Daddy Kane in the nineties
and he had a song called raw. It's an emotion
come on, I'm fifty three dude, right, yeah, yeah, so
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you know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 6 (04:10):
I'm older than you, so yeah, I'm gonna I'm a
real o.
Speaker 5 (04:12):
G that's me.
Speaker 6 (04:15):
That's all right.
Speaker 7 (04:16):
Once I start going off, I turned into fucking doctor Seitaadloria.
I'm talking about Hell yeah, I made respect. So yeah,
that's when I had the idea for raw. I couldn't
make it. Then I am little by little. I ended
up in the rolling paper industry. The Fens raided my
chops in the nineties for selling bongs.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
All the ship was going to jail for that stupid ship.
Speaker 5 (04:35):
I didn't.
Speaker 6 (04:35):
I almost with the jail. I ended up with house arrest.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
That's crazy. Yeah, that's just dumb.
Speaker 5 (04:40):
What was the what was the what were they trying
to come after you for just.
Speaker 6 (04:44):
Sold?
Speaker 7 (04:45):
The story is my store sold a bong to the
daughter of the United States Customs Service Special Agent in charge.
Speaker 6 (04:51):
For the Northern District of Florida, and he was pissed.
Speaker 5 (04:55):
Wow.
Speaker 7 (04:55):
And it wasn't his daughter's fault too, I think it
was eighteen. It was my store's fault.
Speaker 6 (05:00):
Get it.
Speaker 7 (05:00):
Yeah, So we got deep ship, got it. So I
decided to go into the rolling paper industry.
Speaker 6 (05:04):
They kind of pushed me there.
Speaker 7 (05:05):
They told me rolling papers were illegal, with bodings were
not and I love papers. So I shifted gears and
basically went into the paper industry. Back then, I didn't
have the clout to make what I wanted to make,
but I had connections with these old factories, this old
one in Spain, and I started remaking.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Old Spain Spain.
Speaker 6 (05:22):
Yeah. Yeah, so I started remaking Yo, your studio, spind
open when.
Speaker 7 (05:29):
You're back with I'm from New York, but I Talian
and jew I'm mixed, mostly Jewish but mixed.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Okay, yeah, I'm on tell you you fucking from New York.
Speaker 5 (05:40):
That's from New York exactly, Puerto Rican New York where
you get fun.
Speaker 6 (05:45):
We just free with each other.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
It's my dad had a fucking number.
Speaker 8 (05:48):
Dog.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
My dad would never run Nebraska when a big one
in you Like, he has a tribal number from one Ambraskow.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
So my family is like rooted like that. Yeah, I
got my dad.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
Tribal number, the all nine. So going on, yeah right,
you're coming up with go ahead.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (06:00):
So so I made all these other papers, first, started
making these beautiful ones. I brought back my dad's old paper.
That's what elements is. Elements is my dad's favorite rolling
paper that used to be used to make a long time.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
You smoke with your dad, Yeah, so did I.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
I never grew up.
Speaker 5 (06:15):
I grow smoking with my dad and and a lot
of people were like what like I was.
Speaker 7 (06:19):
Like, yeah, and you wait until I was a little older,
not when I was like a fucking but yeah, he
smoked smoking with my brother.
Speaker 6 (06:25):
I have to be older than that.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
We didn't have yea had that?
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Speaking speaking of that can, yeah, yeah, we all did it.
Speaker 7 (06:36):
I thought all the old smoking chicks, but I have
not and will you never not happening.
Speaker 6 (06:40):
So of course I smoked the caid.
Speaker 5 (06:42):
Yeah the people as.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
You owner a raw, let's go through it. Did you
smoke out of an apple?
Speaker 5 (06:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (06:48):
Of course, uh can, Yes, it's the cans, banana everything.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
Uh, milk, curton doing a super charger or or a
two liter bottle on about lots and lots of two
little bottle.
Speaker 6 (07:00):
I've got water balls.
Speaker 5 (07:01):
I got out of the power hitter.
Speaker 6 (07:03):
I've done them all, and I do.
Speaker 7 (07:05):
What's the biggest bomb, The biggest one that was on
the Jerome Baker Blue for a place here in Vegas.
Speaker 6 (07:10):
That fucking monster thing that we were.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
I remember that.
Speaker 6 (07:14):
Yeah, I was like, I feel like it was fifteen.
Speaker 5 (07:16):
You know, I couldn't get.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
I got some good because you gotta think this man's
fucking dead at all.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
He's missed the owner of rock. So we got to
think of some bigger ones.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
Like the biggest bomb, which is Jerome Baker, the biggest
amount of weed you've seen at one time.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
We're the owner of a raw Everyone wants some press en.
Speaker 6 (07:34):
Oh no, no, I've seen I've seen the gross. But
the biggest I think you mean like the biggest joint,
The biggest.
Speaker 7 (07:39):
Joint that I've ever actually hit was that that worked
was a seven pounder. Geez, We've I've seen where Oh Somedden.
We did ourselves in Phoenix.
Speaker 5 (07:49):
We did it.
Speaker 7 (07:50):
I put on a space suit like this, fucking literally
like a flame suit, and we lit it with one
of those Elon musk fucking flame throwers the front and
we plaid it plumb.
Speaker 5 (07:58):
So it actually worked and I got hits off it.
That was fucking fun.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
So seven pounds is it wor is your biggest?
Speaker 1 (08:05):
That?
Speaker 4 (08:05):
What?
Speaker 6 (08:05):
It worked?
Speaker 5 (08:05):
That? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (08:07):
Is there an event that you go to where you're like, oh,
we're gonna do this there like a seven pound fucking joint.
Speaker 6 (08:12):
Yeah, they gave me a seven pounder. Even this past
four to twenty at.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Cush Stocks Marty and the Mischill Marty Mitchell at the
two pounder.
Speaker 6 (08:17):
Yeah, that thing's got like a half pound stuck in
the tip and I hate that.
Speaker 5 (08:20):
Yeah, it's respect to Marty.
Speaker 7 (08:22):
I just I just there's a better way to do that,
because I got yelled at every time I roll one
of those out of it was like look at all that.
Speaker 6 (08:26):
I'm like, I know, I know, but no.
Speaker 7 (08:28):
When I went to the Cushtock, they gave me a
pre roll seven pounder, but they didn't roll it right.
So we had to cut that thing into two three
and a half pounders. Then we had the plummel, and
then we had to get them working right. I ended
up smoking out the crowd by the first quarter of
that thing.
Speaker 6 (08:42):
I had to blow out. You couldn't get a hit
so I could get it to smoke.
Speaker 7 (08:46):
So I just posed the people's faces with it and
going and.
Speaker 6 (08:51):
Then we got about a third way down then it
became smokable.
Speaker 7 (08:53):
But yeah, no, I've had so many I smoked the
snoop you name of the celebrity I probably smoked with
them I've had I've made so many friends. It's been
a fucking awesome ride. Man, Like people say, why are
you so happy?
Speaker 6 (09:03):
I have some really good times, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (09:05):
Well, and you're very successful and you make a product, right,
so let's just call it what it is. You're rich,
you make a great product, deserve it as you come
up with it, and you're making it, and you wanted
to do the natural thing, like you said, your buddy says,
all natural you see it?
Speaker 3 (09:19):
When does it start to evolve? And like when did you.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
See the tracksh you go from an idea to talk
It's yeah, step had it.
Speaker 5 (09:28):
It wasn't like what do you think what happened was
in the beginning.
Speaker 6 (09:31):
When I first made Raw, I was picturing it for
like my friends. My friends would tread like a.
Speaker 5 (09:35):
Real hippie smoker types, you.
Speaker 6 (09:37):
Know, but I thought it was gonna be more of
a niche thing.
Speaker 5 (09:39):
But I knew they.
Speaker 6 (09:40):
Would fucking love and I knew they would love it.
Speaker 5 (09:41):
So when we first made it, I had to invest
pretty much everything I had.
Speaker 6 (09:44):
To do like that at that point in order to
make it. I did it.
Speaker 7 (09:47):
Well, it's real funding no, yeah, completely, yeah, yeah, no investors,
I got fucking nothing. We don't really have banks. I
didn't like maybe honest maybe I don't.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Know I have any. But yeah, it's we try to do
it all ourselves.
Speaker 5 (09:58):
Is that way you have complete freedom, which is another
reason why you're happy.
Speaker 7 (10:01):
You're beholden to partners and investment dada, you're working for them, man.
Speaker 5 (10:05):
And then they tell you what to do.
Speaker 6 (10:06):
I don't want someone he'll do. What the fucks do?
Speaker 5 (10:08):
I just weird shit like fun product. They would say, hell.
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On one World number one.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
They're like, no, I.
Speaker 5 (10:38):
Want to do that.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
I want to do that and make fun, don't I
always gab a good time. You know us his name,
But like I just got live, got fun and they
should represent doing the right.
Speaker 5 (10:47):
Dang, I just made up.
Speaker 6 (10:49):
Like the equivalent.
Speaker 5 (10:50):
We call it the oh God, the conerator.
Speaker 6 (10:53):
It's a.
Speaker 5 (10:54):
It's basically a flute that holds eight or nine joints
in a straight line so you can clear. You kind
of sort of play music if you want too.
Speaker 6 (11:00):
Had smoking a very long No one's gonna let me
make that ship, dude.
Speaker 8 (11:03):
Yeah, you're not gonna make anybody.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
But if I see ad, I see us sublime doing
with the drinks, and it's like you roll tea joints,
drink tjo old t joints, drink tea joints.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Okay, kind of goes hand in hand.
Speaker 7 (11:17):
I'll tell you a story. So when I was in Gageville, Florida,
and I had my first shop, I made friends with
the dude who had the local corn shop.
Speaker 6 (11:24):
You know, the guy's palling every yeah. Yeah, And he
came up to me.
Speaker 5 (11:26):
He's like, Josh, you are so lucky.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
I said, why, because your customers are so happy to
see You're.
Speaker 5 (11:31):
Making everybody that's down happy.
Speaker 7 (11:32):
I see them when they're at their worst. Yeah, you
see them when they're at their fucking best. Dude, you
are so lucky. I'm switch jobs with you in a moment,
and that sat with me and resonates with me to
this day. Or I'm even mentioning it on a podcast,
and I swear that was nineteen ninety three. They're like,
you know, you don't forget those kinds of lessons. You're like,
holy shit, I'm so lucky. I get to get people
fucking it's a passing good times, showed them how to
(11:54):
have more fun. I get to uplift them. I get
to make them fucking might.
Speaker 5 (11:57):
Be great great products. I mean, how many different us
do you have?
Speaker 6 (12:01):
Probably probably twenty five hundred something some outrageous.
Speaker 5 (12:06):
I don't even think you probably have the answer to
this either. But how many stores is raw? And because
well's I mean internationally known. I mean I've been all
over the world.
Speaker 7 (12:15):
And see raw. If I had to guess, I'm sure
I really believe it's more than one hundred thousand by now. Yeah, yeah,
And that's what it's at every place where people actually
smoke visitor the time.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
So that being said, you're very successful, You're great, God
bless you. Here's the real one. Give me a good
story that really affects your heart that you hear like
because of your raw products. Man, it helps this do
this for me because you get those anecdotal stories and
you're spiritual.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
I could tell.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
Yeah, so give me a spiritual story from somebody using
your product and going, thank you for making this for me.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
You save my life.
Speaker 6 (12:51):
I get that a lot.
Speaker 7 (12:53):
When we were first promoting cones and putting, like making
raw cones a real freaking thing.
Speaker 6 (12:58):
I had so many thank you from people.
Speaker 7 (13:00):
Who were physically had physical problems to make it where
they couldn't roll up anymore, and then they could still fill.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
It for them.
Speaker 7 (13:10):
Yeah, I understand like this. Yep, we all have injuries.
I got one right now. This is the way life
is part of being human. But when when someone could
no longer roll, and I've made devices for them so
that they could still be completely self sufficient. They didn't
have to ask a friend to roll or I prey roll,
they could still fill a cone. A device that makes
it easier for them to roll it, stuff it, fill it,
light it. Everything relating to the smoking process, I've gotten
(13:31):
so many thank you for that. The device that goes
over your neck and it literally holds the joint in
front of you so you can smoke while playing a
video game, or if you're in a wheelchair, you can
smoke while you roll, roll while you roll. There's so
many crazy creations that me and the community have come
up with that we've been able to propagate that have
uplifted so many people.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
In there all the time, right because it's like because
of your innovation, though, seriously, like that you are helping
mentally physically disabled people who can't roll joint. Like my
hand's getting numbs sometimes I have to put cream on them,
just like I grab my fork, you know what I mean.
And so people need a joint to just smoke. And
if you have a pre roll, so you've been doing
(14:11):
the Lord's work. It feels like, what that's lotiful.
Speaker 6 (14:14):
I can't I can't let myself go there.
Speaker 7 (14:15):
But what I can say is like I've allowed so
many people to have the joy of paper, which is
what my passion. So like, if somebody couldn't roll normally,
they would switch to pipes, right, but now they don't
have I don't know, roll joint. That's why I use
a pipe or a bong or a one hitter. And
I was like, no, dude, you ain't got no excuse anymore.
Speaker 5 (14:31):
Yeah, we'll show you one way or another.
Speaker 7 (14:33):
You're gonna smoke out of paper, bro, and you're gonna
fucking love it. You really are and.
Speaker 6 (14:36):
Then they smoke and they understand why I love it
so much.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
I always tell people too, that the best way to
smoke is with the paper. With the paper, right, I mean,
you want to use a row paper. I mean, it's
just the most natural way to smoke. Glasses is nice,
you know, But for me, I've always wanted to hit
from paper.
Speaker 7 (14:54):
Do you still smoke? I don't use pipe. I don't
use glass that often. But I'll tell you why why.
One of the reasons I love paper that people realize
there's two things that it's my understanding, and if I'm wrong,
I apologize. The joint actually burns cooler than when you're
sitting there with that lighter directly into your ball.
Speaker 6 (15:11):
Man, you know, get right into the ball right.
Speaker 5 (15:12):
There, go go go.
Speaker 7 (15:13):
Yeah, that's gonna be a lot hotter, in my experience
hit than a joint. And then if the joint, the
ash is falling off as we're smoking, Whereas that ash
is sitting there in the bowl until it clears through
the hole, and then there's a fire in the hole.
Speaker 6 (15:25):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 7 (15:26):
So like so I like getting rid of my ash.
I wanted to fall on the ground. I don't want
it to go to my lungs.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
You know what's funny, You're making me want to smoke
a joint. And I actually.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
Personal experience.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
What you said made sense to me, and I was
almost going to get a personal little pipe for one
in or quitter.
Speaker 6 (15:44):
Yeah, you know what I mean, going one hitter, especially.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Where's that I could think that ass?
Speaker 5 (15:50):
Now?
Speaker 4 (15:50):
I used to have the proto pipe. I mean, sure,
I'm old school like that, and I cut it out
and it's great. So let's talk about a man like you.
Where did you grow up?
Speaker 7 (16:03):
I grew up partially and meant like in New York Hall,
but like partially Manhattan, partially in Long Island, and then
I went down to Florida for university and finished up
school there and opened up my first shop.
Speaker 6 (16:11):
While still, where'd you go to school? University of Florida
in Gainesville. What was your major?
Speaker 7 (16:15):
Marketing and finance? Neither one of which I was. I
didn't do very well in school, but those are two
things I kind of drown.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
Did you get your degree?
Speaker 5 (16:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (16:23):
Yeah, I finished meet you and I got it barely
meet you.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Hey, we gotta get it.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
Yeah yeah, I mean it's a good thing. So college
started a business right after that.
Speaker 7 (16:35):
While I was in school, entrepreneur while I was Yeah,
while I was still in school over my first shop.
My shop started as like a project for school where
you would like make a fake business. They made you
do that for the for the class, and for me.
I always wanted to open a head shop. I love headshop.
How I was young. Now you're shop in the head shop.
They were free, man, they were I'd walk in there.
(16:56):
They were they had fucking beers, long hair, they were happy.
They were like stone, they were fucking happy. They were
trying to tell me I should become an accountant. I
went and fucking bought like, you're like, yet out of here? Oh,
my dad, maybe go work is an account For a second,
I fucking hated dad.
Speaker 6 (17:10):
I'm hating it.
Speaker 7 (17:11):
All, dude. I was counting down the minutes to get
out of there. I realized in that moment I was
selling hours of my life. And I knew that when
I got older, I would pay anything to get those
fucking hours back.
Speaker 6 (17:21):
But I was getting paid three dollars and fourteen cents
a fucking hour.
Speaker 5 (17:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (17:24):
I was like, oh no, no, no, no, no no no,
I just want to be free. Oh my God, I
just want to be fucking happy. Please God, let me
be happy. So when I opened up my first shop,
the goal was not to make money. It was not
to become this fucking thing that I became. It was
to be free. I just wanted to be fucking free.
I don't have to go on to fucking accountant to
join the fucking mobs and masses and work for some giant,
fucking mega corps.
Speaker 6 (17:41):
Fuck that.
Speaker 5 (17:42):
Fuck that.
Speaker 7 (17:42):
I did not want to sell hours of my life.
So once the storre started becoming successful, I was like,
holy shit, I can actually maybe I can do this
till the end. So I opened the second shop and
the more stores. I was just trying to build it
big enough that I could just be free. And I
still just want to be fucking free, you know, jo Ever, Josh, oh.
Speaker 6 (18:00):
No, because now I work for everybody.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
So yeah, crazier.
Speaker 5 (18:04):
Have you have you ever experienced being knocked off.
Speaker 6 (18:07):
All the time?
Speaker 4 (18:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (18:08):
Yeah, they make they make actual like they make fake
raw packs in China.
Speaker 5 (18:12):
No shit, no shit, I can't believe it, but they do.
Speaker 7 (18:15):
They make fake raw packs, make fake a lot of
my stuff in China, and then what.
Speaker 5 (18:18):
They've distributed to everybody else for a fraction or something.
How does tell? Yeah, Like, I can't. It's hard for
me because we sell packs it.
Speaker 7 (18:24):
The store might pay thirty cents a pack, you know
if depending on what it is. But but instead they'll
pay fifteen cents to get some Chinese knockoff and the
consumer hates it, and then the consumer blames me.
Speaker 5 (18:34):
I can hit all the time.
Speaker 7 (18:35):
By then we're telling me, yeah, your paper, the gum
doesn't stick, and then look at it's fake.
Speaker 5 (18:39):
We're like, where'd you get it? How do you How
do you tell the difference?
Speaker 2 (18:42):
I mean you could just they don't do a good
enough job, or do you have you have they use?
Speaker 6 (18:46):
We use like an acacia based gum.
Speaker 7 (18:48):
Right, so when you heat it up, the gum will
if you put it like a lighter underneath the paper
without burning it, right, don't burn the paper, the gum
will curl because it's releasing basically it's humidity.
Speaker 6 (18:56):
It shrivels, it'll curl.
Speaker 7 (18:58):
The Chinese ones use a chemical based gum that we
don't use, and so we could.
Speaker 6 (19:02):
You could heat it all day. It's not gonna move.
Speaker 7 (19:04):
Maybe it'll burn burn the other way, but it's not
gonna do that curl, So we call it the gum
line curl test. That's the easiest way to tell nice
the counterfeit Chinese cones, they don't even gum, they don't
include them, and just wrap it in a spiral so
it looks like a cone and you can just open
it up.
Speaker 6 (19:19):
It also burns nothing like ours. That's the easiest way
I can put it.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Right.
Speaker 7 (19:23):
So whenever we get a complain of someone saying, oh,
this happened or that happened, we check, and more often
than not it's its counterfeit, you know. And it's a
bummer because here's the thing. The consumer, the smoker doesn't
know it's fake.
Speaker 6 (19:34):
They think I suck, right, And I'm.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
Like, I don't suck, Like I'm not longer than anyone.
Speaker 5 (19:39):
I know. If it's her first time, you know, it's
their first time, it sucks. And there's always add first time.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
I mean, if you think about how widely spread your
product is daily, there's play that first time us.
Speaker 6 (19:51):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, everything.
Speaker 7 (19:52):
I mean it's people turn twenty one every day, yes,
and you know it as you.
Speaker 5 (19:56):
Bring that up.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
But like you do the high five with Josh, the
anges them wrong, Well, shouldn't haveumber one because you kind
of went that way.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Yeah, what is the how old are the first time
you got high?
Speaker 4 (20:04):
And who'd you get highway?
Speaker 7 (20:06):
I was really young and I can'tais eighty age because
the podcast forever.
Speaker 6 (20:11):
I was tough. Fuck, we're definitely under the bus.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
My brother was sixteen, I was six. Oh damn, and
he's fucking out. The grenadi was.
Speaker 6 (20:22):
Pow are you?
Speaker 3 (20:22):
Oh shit? You want to hear your name?
Speaker 5 (20:24):
Jana live on the show on Penny Time.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
Nineteen eighty can't leave on the point mail.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
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Talk one oh one.
Speaker 4 (20:52):
Damn, that's the pre way to.
Speaker 6 (20:53):
Fucking smoke the first time put smoking a six is
the horrific thing.
Speaker 5 (20:56):
Should never ever, ever ever do that?
Speaker 3 (20:58):
Never went twenty six?
Speaker 4 (21:00):
Were twenty six yet a Blowjus, I haven't smoked it
joined the twenty six? That's why I looking at you.
I said, fucky, although maybe I want to smoke, you
know what I mean? You why I said that? To you,
I'm like, oh my god, you're making show show.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
Look when I say I'm sobering it, I got give
my champ, you know.
Speaker 4 (21:16):
What I mean?
Speaker 6 (21:17):
Yeah, yeah, I understand.
Speaker 7 (21:19):
I respect that. I will not ask you to smoke
it anyway. I understand.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
No, no, no, no no no.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
When I love the product, thank you.
Speaker 4 (21:26):
And I would if I and I use cannabis for
medicinal news, I'll use oil skins and yeah, we'll have
an agreed. But I won't smoke a joint our blunt
because you're mad to trigger in my head as I
think it is.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
But what you said made sense.
Speaker 6 (21:41):
Yeah, of course.
Speaker 5 (21:42):
Number two of the high five, what is your favorite
way to use or smoke cannabis?
Speaker 6 (21:46):
I really just prefer to roll one up and smoke it.
Speaker 7 (21:48):
Pure flower, pure flowers, as organic as it can be.
Ideally for me, a plant that at least once in
its life has seen the sun because I'm vegan, I'm
a true naturalist, and that plant wants to see the sun.
Speaker 5 (22:04):
That's a lot of the same as you and I.
Speaker 7 (22:06):
Our DNA with that plant is too similar, more similar,
and people want to admit I know what it wants.
You know what it wants. Yeah, it doesn't want to
grow into artificial light. We can do that, but at
least give it some lightness for a little bit.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
So do you feel like, you know, I mean that
sun grown is is is, It has its own I
don't want to say it's as good because just do
you think it's what he thinks better?
Speaker 5 (22:29):
I mean, obviously you believe in the sun grown better?
Speaker 6 (22:31):
Is is so subjective? Yeah, I can only tell you
what is more natural?
Speaker 5 (22:34):
Got you?
Speaker 6 (22:35):
Sun is more natural? Sure so?
Speaker 7 (22:37):
And I really want to live a more natural life.
So my preference is to try to be natural. I
love indoor stuff. Man, we can bring that ship through
the fucking roof indoor. But we're getting kind of close
to gmocorn is is where the industry has been going,
and that scares me and it makes me sad, you know.
Speaker 6 (22:54):
So I like both, I really do.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
I agree with the natural sunlight, that mother Earth and
everything that.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
So I grew up on Aljor and and honestly, some
of the indoor that grows it smells good, it tastes incredible,
it's incredible, but it sometimes it's for me. It's it
gets me a little too high, you know. I enjoy
still you know sun grown. That's quality.
Speaker 7 (23:23):
Okay, here's what I'll tell you, which I shouldn't really say.
And this is just personal for me. And I don't
know why sun grown reduces my pain in my back
more than indoor. I don't know why you say sun
grown reduces the pain that I have in my back
more than indoor. Jack Herro told me a story and
I can share it if you want. I'll just what
(23:43):
end on a beautiful Jack note if you want. Ever.
Speaker 6 (23:45):
I have miss share, man. I fucking missed that guy.
Speaker 7 (23:47):
So Jack used to yell at me in the nineties
about how Josh, you have can't. When Jack would talk
to you, he'd be hitting you with his hand like
this the whole time in your chest. I got he's
one of those guys. So Jack would yellow me, this
is all from memories. If I'm wrong, Jack, I'm sorry, bro.
I'll see you soon. It was there's a cancer growing
inside you right now, Josh.
Speaker 6 (24:07):
And when I was talking, we were talking about extracts.
Speaker 7 (24:12):
The thing you extracted out might be the thing that
you needed to stop that cancer from growing in you
right now, Josh, you don't know. And he's talking about
we only know this, Turpini. Is this that we know
so little about the plant? The part you don't know
is the part you don't know. Like you're right, Jack,
You're right Jack, You right Jack, You're right Jack. You're
right Jack, You're right Jack. So that kind of you know,
(24:32):
when you have role models like that, role models literally
beating it into your chest. He I believe he's right,
I really do so. Full spectrum is full spectrum. That
means it saw the full spectrum of Mother Earth's sun,
that planet burning out there. The plant saw it. It
absorbed everything was supposed to absorb. It gave me everything
I could get from it, and then maybe, just maybe
(24:54):
it helps me in some way that I don't even know.
Speaker 5 (24:56):
Wisdom right there, wisdom. Thank you for saying that. That's Beau.
Speaker 6 (25:00):
I hate sheer you because then I don't want some
guys who growing indoor to be like that.
Speaker 5 (25:03):
You know, I'm not against anything.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
I love it all, I really love it all.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
But it makes sense. It's outdoor, it's sun. You can't
replicate the sun like the sun. I know you just can't.
Question Number three, what's your go too? Munchies after you
get high?
Speaker 7 (25:18):
My favorite is vegan cheesecake, and if not vegan cheesecake,
if it's like daytime, it's going to be an Ethiopian
dish called me, Sir Watts, M my s I R.
It's this delicious red lentil dish for Ethiopia. It is,
as I'm saying it. I'm starting to get spittle on
your microphone because my mouth is salivating.
Speaker 6 (25:35):
It is so good. It is so good.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Okay, sorry, question before the High five, was the craziest
place you ever smoked or used cannabis?
Speaker 7 (25:42):
Well, okay, the funniest one was the dean's bathroom in
high school. We got blessed and I got a lot
of trouble for that one.
Speaker 6 (25:52):
Yeah, I gotta expel pretty much. I asked to leave.
Speaker 5 (25:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
Number five is gonna be kind of tough, i'd imagine
because you're the owner of raw Josh. You've smoked with everyone.
But if you could smoke cannabis with anyone, dead or alive,
who would have been why? Well, okay, dead or alive.
I'm sorry, guys, it's gonna be my grandmother because I miss.
Speaker 5 (26:14):
Her, would be my mom's, my dad.
Speaker 7 (26:18):
There's so much I really do. Sorry to hear that,
but there's so many other people. I'd love to smoke
with people I like, older people who can really share
with me story wisdom.
Speaker 5 (26:28):
Yeah, they give that wisdom and then if they were alive.
Speaker 7 (26:32):
Alive at the moment Willie before he goes, I smoke
with WILLI and I really want to smoke with Willie.
Speaker 6 (26:36):
I really want.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
To want to listen to your team has said that,
You've actually said that a few times, So ladies and
gentlemen really know, sir.
Speaker 6 (26:44):
Oh my god, you gotta be.
Speaker 8 (26:51):
Oh my god, Cannabish good five tribes we are Josh
and josh Is said, let's wrap it up. Well a guy,
next guy, good bye.
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Speaker 4 (00:17):
We are the greatest cannabis show where we like to
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when you think about the greatest companies, you guys, you
think of some big names like how aren't throw other
companies out there like Apple, Nike, you know what I mean?
They're just some companies like ABC, Fox They come to
mind when you think of big companies, they are just
(00:37):
companies in general, Cisco Systems, you know four Yeah. And
then when you think of Champs and you think of
what's going on here, what are some big companies Like
if do you think of sex, you think of raw doggy,
you think of smoking, you dig of raw and it
goes from smoking to sex and it's raw doggie or raw.
Speaker 6 (01:00):
Raw dog.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Fucking man is the.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
Man that created raw and it is impressive to always
see you at these events because you carry the look
that we all do as entertainers and brand ambassadors of
what we do.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
We own cannabis off one oh one. This is what
we do.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
He's the CEO. You're the CEO and owner of raw.
It's an honor to see what you do events after event.
Speaker 5 (01:27):
You take it to the.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Next level from the bigger raw joints.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
That I have one of these fucking stupid things at
my house will fuck you because I don't want it
at my house, and you're an asshole for doing that.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
I got one of my jass one of my studio
blows up in my house. You print, and that's why
I don't like you.
Speaker 6 (01:49):
He said, why don't I have it?
Speaker 3 (01:50):
This is cool, I'm gonna take it, take it.
Speaker 5 (01:53):
I don't want it.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
How did you come up with this brilliant company marketing?
Speaker 3 (01:59):
We're you home? Jerk it off with a soft and.
Speaker 5 (02:04):
Come on.
Speaker 7 (02:05):
I used to have one little tiny store in ninety three,
and I was a collector of rolling papers. Back then,
I freaking loved rolling papers. How many people can say
they actually love them?
Speaker 4 (02:14):
Why do you collect them? What do you mean collect them?
Speaker 7 (02:16):
So when I was a little kid, my dad used
to do magic tricks with his rolling paper.
Speaker 6 (02:19):
His volume up magic tricks.
Speaker 7 (02:21):
Really, he would do this thing where he would light
his rolling paper on fire and throw it in the
air and it would just vanish, and was the only
magic trick he knew. So when I was like five,
I was like, oh my god, that is amazing. So
because of that one magic t trick, I fell in
love with rolling papers, and I began collecting them long
before I should have this, back before they were even
age restriction.
Speaker 5 (02:38):
And I had a great collection of papers.
Speaker 7 (02:39):
So ninety three, when I was in university and I
opened my first shop, I used to get in whatever
people asked me to bring in the store.
Speaker 5 (02:45):
Whenever they asked me, I brought it in.
Speaker 7 (02:47):
Some dude asked me to bring in a certain brand
of cigarettes made in America that are natural.
Speaker 6 (02:52):
Say they're natural, all right, So I can't say the
brand natural. You know who they are. So he'd been
and the guy was lecturing me on how these cigarettes.
Speaker 7 (03:00):
It's a freaking natural, dude. They're different than every other cigarettes.
They gore great, great, So they come. I order in
the guy a case of it. He comes in, I
sell him a pack. He offers me one, and I
used to smoke cigarettes back then, so I pull it out,
but he pulls it out and hands it to me,
and it's that same bright, white, bleached bullshit that I
was used to from every commercial cigarette, and I was like,
what the fuck is this? So I was very upset
(03:20):
about it, and that night I was getting I was smoking,
getting really high, and I realized, I thought to my
whole collection, which was probably maybe a thousand deep at
that point, and I realized that we, meaning we humans,
we smokers, had never made the paper that I was
envisioning when he said natural. I'm thinking it's going to
be this like unbleached, natural, translucent brown paper. I'm going
to see the tobacco through it. It's gonna be fucking beautiful.
(03:42):
And instead it was like filled with calcium carbonate, all
the usual shit. So that night I realized that we
had never made it. We had never made it, and
that's when I had the idea for it. I even
knew what I wanted to call it, because I was
a huge man of Big Daddy Kane in the nineties
and he had a song called raw. It's an emotion
come on, I'm fifty three dude, right, yeah, yeah, so
(04:09):
you know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 6 (04:10):
I'm older than you, so yeah, I'm gonna I'm a
real o.
Speaker 5 (04:12):
G that's me.
Speaker 6 (04:15):
That's all right.
Speaker 7 (04:16):
Once I start going off, I turned into fucking doctor Seitaadloria.
I'm talking about Hell yeah, I made respect. So yeah,
that's when I had the idea for raw. I couldn't
make it. Then I am little by little. I ended
up in the rolling paper industry. The Fens raided my
chops in the nineties for selling bongs.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
All the ship was going to jail for that stupid ship.
Speaker 5 (04:35):
I didn't.
Speaker 6 (04:35):
I almost with the jail. I ended up with house arrest.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
That's crazy. Yeah, that's just dumb.
Speaker 5 (04:40):
What was the what was the what were they trying
to come after you for just.
Speaker 6 (04:44):
Sold?
Speaker 7 (04:45):
The story is my store sold a bong to the
daughter of the United States Customs Service Special Agent in charge.
Speaker 6 (04:51):
For the Northern District of Florida, and he was pissed.
Speaker 5 (04:55):
Wow.
Speaker 7 (04:55):
And it wasn't his daughter's fault too, I think it
was eighteen. It was my store's fault.
Speaker 6 (05:00):
Get it.
Speaker 7 (05:00):
Yeah, So we got deep ship, got it. So I
decided to go into the rolling paper industry.
Speaker 6 (05:04):
They kind of pushed me there.
Speaker 7 (05:05):
They told me rolling papers were illegal, with bodings were
not and I love papers. So I shifted gears and
basically went into the paper industry. Back then, I didn't
have the clout to make what I wanted to make,
but I had connections with these old factories, this old
one in Spain, and I started remaking.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Old Spain Spain.
Speaker 6 (05:22):
Yeah. Yeah, so I started remaking Yo, your studio, spind
open when.
Speaker 7 (05:29):
You're back with I'm from New York, but I Talian
and jew I'm mixed, mostly Jewish but mixed.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Okay, yeah, I'm on tell you you fucking from New York.
Speaker 5 (05:40):
That's from New York exactly, Puerto Rican New York where
you get fun.
Speaker 6 (05:45):
We just free with each other.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
It's my dad had a fucking number.
Speaker 8 (05:48):
Dog.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
My dad would never run Nebraska when a big one
in you Like, he has a tribal number from one Ambraskow.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
So my family is like rooted like that. Yeah, I
got my dad.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
Tribal number, the all nine. So going on, yeah right,
you're coming up with go ahead.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (06:00):
So so I made all these other papers, first, started
making these beautiful ones. I brought back my dad's old paper.
That's what elements is. Elements is my dad's favorite rolling
paper that used to be used to make a long time.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
You smoke with your dad, Yeah, so did I.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
I never grew up.
Speaker 5 (06:15):
I grow smoking with my dad and and a lot
of people were like what like I was.
Speaker 7 (06:19):
Like, yeah, and you wait until I was a little older,
not when I was like a fucking but yeah, he
smoked smoking with my brother.
Speaker 6 (06:25):
I have to be older than that.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
We didn't have yea had that?
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Speaking speaking of that can, yeah, yeah, we all did it.
Speaker 7 (06:36):
I thought all the old smoking chicks, but I have
not and will you never not happening.
Speaker 6 (06:40):
So of course I smoked the caid.
Speaker 5 (06:42):
Yeah the people as.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
You owner a raw, let's go through it. Did you
smoke out of an apple?
Speaker 5 (06:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (06:48):
Of course, uh can, Yes, it's the cans, banana everything.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
Uh, milk, curton doing a super charger or or a
two liter bottle on about lots and lots of two
little bottle.
Speaker 6 (07:00):
I've got water balls.
Speaker 5 (07:01):
I got out of the power hitter.
Speaker 6 (07:03):
I've done them all, and I do.
Speaker 7 (07:05):
What's the biggest bomb, The biggest one that was on
the Jerome Baker Blue for a place here in Vegas.
Speaker 6 (07:10):
That fucking monster thing that we were.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
I remember that.
Speaker 6 (07:14):
Yeah, I was like, I feel like it was fifteen.
Speaker 5 (07:16):
You know, I couldn't get.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
I got some good because you gotta think this man's
fucking dead at all.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
He's missed the owner of rock. So we got to
think of some bigger ones.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
Like the biggest bomb, which is Jerome Baker, the biggest
amount of weed you've seen at one time.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
We're the owner of a raw Everyone wants some press en.
Speaker 6 (07:34):
Oh no, no, I've seen I've seen the gross. But
the biggest I think you mean like the biggest joint,
The biggest.
Speaker 7 (07:39):
Joint that I've ever actually hit was that that worked
was a seven pounder. Geez, We've I've seen where Oh Somedden.
We did ourselves in Phoenix.
Speaker 5 (07:49):
We did it.
Speaker 7 (07:50):
I put on a space suit like this, fucking literally
like a flame suit, and we lit it with one
of those Elon musk fucking flame throwers the front and
we plaid it plumb.
Speaker 5 (07:58):
So it actually worked and I got hits off it.
That was fucking fun.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
So seven pounds is it wor is your biggest?
Speaker 1 (08:05):
That?
Speaker 4 (08:05):
What?
Speaker 6 (08:05):
It worked?
Speaker 5 (08:05):
That? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (08:07):
Is there an event that you go to where you're like, oh,
we're gonna do this there like a seven pound fucking joint.
Speaker 6 (08:12):
Yeah, they gave me a seven pounder. Even this past
four to twenty at.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Cush Stocks Marty and the Mischill Marty Mitchell at the
two pounder.
Speaker 6 (08:17):
Yeah, that thing's got like a half pound stuck in
the tip and I hate that.
Speaker 5 (08:20):
Yeah, it's respect to Marty.
Speaker 7 (08:22):
I just I just there's a better way to do that,
because I got yelled at every time I roll one
of those out of it was like look at all that.
Speaker 6 (08:26):
I'm like, I know, I know, but no.
Speaker 7 (08:28):
When I went to the Cushtock, they gave me a
pre roll seven pounder, but they didn't roll it right.
So we had to cut that thing into two three
and a half pounders. Then we had the plummel, and
then we had to get them working right. I ended
up smoking out the crowd by the first quarter of
that thing.
Speaker 6 (08:42):
I had to blow out. You couldn't get a hit
so I could get it to smoke.
Speaker 7 (08:46):
So I just posed the people's faces with it and
going and.
Speaker 6 (08:51):
Then we got about a third way down then it
became smokable.
Speaker 7 (08:53):
But yeah, no, I've had so many I smoked the
snoop you name of the celebrity I probably smoked with
them I've had I've made so many friends. It's been
a fucking awesome ride. Man, Like people say, why are
you so happy?
Speaker 6 (09:03):
I have some really good times, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (09:05):
Well, and you're very successful and you make a product, right,
so let's just call it what it is. You're rich,
you make a great product, deserve it as you come
up with it, and you're making it, and you wanted
to do the natural thing, like you said, your buddy says,
all natural you see it?
Speaker 3 (09:19):
When does it start to evolve? And like when did you.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
See the tracksh you go from an idea to talk
It's yeah, step had it.
Speaker 5 (09:28):
It wasn't like what do you think what happened was
in the beginning.
Speaker 6 (09:31):
When I first made Raw, I was picturing it for
like my friends. My friends would tread like a.
Speaker 5 (09:35):
Real hippie smoker types, you.
Speaker 6 (09:37):
Know, but I thought it was gonna be more of
a niche thing.
Speaker 5 (09:39):
But I knew they.
Speaker 6 (09:40):
Would fucking love and I knew they would love it.
Speaker 5 (09:41):
So when we first made it, I had to invest
pretty much everything I had.
Speaker 6 (09:44):
To do like that at that point in order to
make it. I did it.
Speaker 7 (09:47):
Well, it's real funding no, yeah, completely, yeah, yeah, no investors,
I got fucking nothing. We don't really have banks. I
didn't like maybe honest maybe I don't.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Know I have any. But yeah, it's we try to do
it all ourselves.
Speaker 5 (09:58):
Is that way you have complete freedom, which is another
reason why you're happy.
Speaker 7 (10:01):
You're beholden to partners and investment dada, you're working for them, man.
Speaker 5 (10:05):
And then they tell you what to do.
Speaker 6 (10:06):
I don't want someone he'll do. What the fucks do?
Speaker 5 (10:08):
I just weird shit like fun product. They would say, hell.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
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Speaker 6 (10:31):
Welcome back to Cannabis Talks one.
Speaker 5 (10:33):
On one World number one.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
They're like, no, I.
Speaker 5 (10:38):
Want to do that.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
I want to do that and make fun, don't I
always gab a good time. You know us his name,
But like I just got live, got fun and they
should represent doing the right.
Speaker 5 (10:47):
Dang, I just made up.
Speaker 6 (10:49):
Like the equivalent.
Speaker 5 (10:50):
We call it the oh God, the conerator.
Speaker 6 (10:53):
It's a.
Speaker 5 (10:54):
It's basically a flute that holds eight or nine joints
in a straight line so you can clear. You kind
of sort of play music if you want too.
Speaker 6 (11:00):
Had smoking a very long No one's gonna let me
make that ship, dude.
Speaker 8 (11:03):
Yeah, you're not gonna make anybody.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
But if I see ad, I see us sublime doing
with the drinks, and it's like you roll tea joints,
drink tjo old t joints, drink tea joints.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Okay, kind of goes hand in hand.
Speaker 7 (11:17):
I'll tell you a story. So when I was in Gageville, Florida,
and I had my first shop, I made friends with
the dude who had the local corn shop.
Speaker 6 (11:24):
You know, the guy's palling every yeah. Yeah, And he
came up to me.
Speaker 5 (11:26):
He's like, Josh, you are so lucky.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
I said, why, because your customers are so happy to
see You're.
Speaker 5 (11:31):
Making everybody that's down happy.
Speaker 7 (11:32):
I see them when they're at their worst. Yeah, you
see them when they're at their fucking best. Dude, you
are so lucky. I'm switch jobs with you in a moment,
and that sat with me and resonates with me to
this day. Or I'm even mentioning it on a podcast,
and I swear that was nineteen ninety three. They're like,
you know, you don't forget those kinds of lessons. You're like,
holy shit, I'm so lucky. I get to get people
fucking it's a passing good times, showed them how to
(11:54):
have more fun. I get to uplift them. I get
to make them fucking might.
Speaker 5 (11:57):
Be great great products. I mean, how many different us
do you have?
Speaker 6 (12:01):
Probably probably twenty five hundred something some outrageous.
Speaker 5 (12:06):
I don't even think you probably have the answer to
this either. But how many stores is raw? And because
well's I mean internationally known. I mean I've been all
over the world.
Speaker 7 (12:15):
And see raw. If I had to guess, I'm sure
I really believe it's more than one hundred thousand by now. Yeah, yeah,
And that's what it's at every place where people actually
smoke visitor the time.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
So that being said, you're very successful, You're great, God
bless you. Here's the real one. Give me a good
story that really affects your heart that you hear like
because of your raw products. Man, it helps this do
this for me because you get those anecdotal stories and
you're spiritual.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
I could tell.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
Yeah, so give me a spiritual story from somebody using
your product and going, thank you for making this for me.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
You save my life.
Speaker 6 (12:51):
I get that a lot.
Speaker 7 (12:53):
When we were first promoting cones and putting, like making
raw cones a real freaking thing.
Speaker 6 (12:58):
I had so many thank you from people.
Speaker 7 (13:00):
Who were physically had physical problems to make it where
they couldn't roll up anymore, and then they could still fill.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
It for them.
Speaker 7 (13:10):
Yeah, I understand like this. Yep, we all have injuries.
I got one right now. This is the way life
is part of being human. But when when someone could
no longer roll, and I've made devices for them so
that they could still be completely self sufficient. They didn't
have to ask a friend to roll or I prey roll,
they could still fill a cone. A device that makes
it easier for them to roll it, stuff it, fill it,
light it. Everything relating to the smoking process, I've gotten
(13:31):
so many thank you for that. The device that goes
over your neck and it literally holds the joint in
front of you so you can smoke while playing a
video game, or if you're in a wheelchair, you can
smoke while you roll, roll while you roll. There's so
many crazy creations that me and the community have come
up with that we've been able to propagate that have
uplifted so many people.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
In there all the time, right because it's like because
of your innovation, though, seriously, like that you are helping
mentally physically disabled people who can't roll joint. Like my
hand's getting numbs sometimes I have to put cream on them,
just like I grab my fork, you know what I mean.
And so people need a joint to just smoke. And
if you have a pre roll, so you've been doing
(14:11):
the Lord's work. It feels like, what that's lotiful.
Speaker 6 (14:14):
I can't I can't let myself go there.
Speaker 7 (14:15):
But what I can say is like I've allowed so
many people to have the joy of paper, which is
what my passion. So like, if somebody couldn't roll normally,
they would switch to pipes, right, but now they don't
have I don't know, roll joint. That's why I use
a pipe or a bong or a one hitter. And
I was like, no, dude, you ain't got no excuse anymore.
Speaker 5 (14:31):
Yeah, we'll show you one way or another.
Speaker 7 (14:33):
You're gonna smoke out of paper, bro, and you're gonna
fucking love it. You really are and.
Speaker 6 (14:36):
Then they smoke and they understand why I love it
so much.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
I always tell people too, that the best way to
smoke is with the paper. With the paper, right, I mean,
you want to use a row paper. I mean, it's
just the most natural way to smoke. Glasses is nice,
you know, But for me, I've always wanted to hit
from paper.
Speaker 7 (14:54):
Do you still smoke? I don't use pipe. I don't
use glass that often. But I'll tell you why why.
One of the reasons I love paper that people realize
there's two things that it's my understanding, and if I'm wrong,
I apologize. The joint actually burns cooler than when you're
sitting there with that lighter directly into your ball.
Speaker 6 (15:11):
Man, you know, get right into the ball right.
Speaker 5 (15:12):
There, go go go.
Speaker 7 (15:13):
Yeah, that's gonna be a lot hotter, in my experience
hit than a joint. And then if the joint, the
ash is falling off as we're smoking, Whereas that ash
is sitting there in the bowl until it clears through
the hole, and then there's a fire in the hole.
Speaker 6 (15:25):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 7 (15:26):
So like so I like getting rid of my ash.
I wanted to fall on the ground. I don't want
it to go to my lungs.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
You know what's funny, You're making me want to smoke
a joint. And I actually.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
Personal experience.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
What you said made sense to me, and I was
almost going to get a personal little pipe for one
in or quitter.
Speaker 6 (15:44):
Yeah, you know what I mean, going one hitter, especially.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Where's that I could think that ass?
Speaker 5 (15:50):
Now?
Speaker 4 (15:50):
I used to have the proto pipe. I mean, sure,
I'm old school like that, and I cut it out
and it's great. So let's talk about a man like you.
Where did you grow up?
Speaker 7 (16:03):
I grew up partially and meant like in New York Hall,
but like partially Manhattan, partially in Long Island, and then
I went down to Florida for university and finished up
school there and opened up my first shop.
Speaker 6 (16:11):
While still, where'd you go to school? University of Florida
in Gainesville. What was your major?
Speaker 7 (16:15):
Marketing and finance? Neither one of which I was. I
didn't do very well in school, but those are two
things I kind of drown.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
Did you get your degree?
Speaker 5 (16:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (16:23):
Yeah, I finished meet you and I got it barely
meet you.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Hey, we gotta get it.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
Yeah yeah, I mean it's a good thing. So college
started a business right after that.
Speaker 7 (16:35):
While I was in school, entrepreneur while I was Yeah,
while I was still in school over my first shop.
My shop started as like a project for school where
you would like make a fake business. They made you
do that for the for the class, and for me.
I always wanted to open a head shop. I love headshop.
How I was young. Now you're shop in the head shop.
They were free, man, they were I'd walk in there.
(16:56):
They were they had fucking beers, long hair, they were happy.
They were like stone, they were fucking happy. They were
trying to tell me I should become an accountant. I
went and fucking bought like, you're like, yet out of here? Oh,
my dad, maybe go work is an account For a second,
I fucking hated dad.
Speaker 6 (17:10):
I'm hating it.
Speaker 7 (17:11):
All, dude. I was counting down the minutes to get
out of there. I realized in that moment I was
selling hours of my life. And I knew that when
I got older, I would pay anything to get those
fucking hours back.
Speaker 6 (17:21):
But I was getting paid three dollars and fourteen cents
a fucking hour.
Speaker 5 (17:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (17:24):
I was like, oh no, no, no, no, no no no,
I just want to be free. Oh my God, I
just want to be fucking happy. Please God, let me
be happy. So when I opened up my first shop,
the goal was not to make money. It was not
to become this fucking thing that I became. It was
to be free. I just wanted to be fucking free.
I don't have to go on to fucking accountant to
join the fucking mobs and masses and work for some giant,
fucking mega corps.
Speaker 6 (17:41):
Fuck that.
Speaker 5 (17:42):
Fuck that.
Speaker 7 (17:42):
I did not want to sell hours of my life.
So once the storre started becoming successful, I was like,
holy shit, I can actually maybe I can do this
till the end. So I opened the second shop and
the more stores. I was just trying to build it
big enough that I could just be free. And I
still just want to be fucking free, you know, jo Ever, Josh, oh.
Speaker 6 (18:00):
No, because now I work for everybody.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
So yeah, crazier.
Speaker 5 (18:04):
Have you have you ever experienced being knocked off.
Speaker 6 (18:07):
All the time?
Speaker 4 (18:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (18:08):
Yeah, they make they make actual like they make fake
raw packs in China.
Speaker 5 (18:12):
No shit, no shit, I can't believe it, but they do.
Speaker 7 (18:15):
They make fake raw packs, make fake a lot of
my stuff in China, and then what.
Speaker 5 (18:18):
They've distributed to everybody else for a fraction or something.
How does tell? Yeah, Like, I can't. It's hard for
me because we sell packs it.
Speaker 7 (18:24):
The store might pay thirty cents a pack, you know
if depending on what it is. But but instead they'll
pay fifteen cents to get some Chinese knockoff and the
consumer hates it, and then the consumer blames me.
Speaker 5 (18:34):
I can hit all the time.
Speaker 7 (18:35):
By then we're telling me, yeah, your paper, the gum
doesn't stick, and then look at it's fake.
Speaker 5 (18:39):
We're like, where'd you get it? How do you How
do you tell the difference?
Speaker 2 (18:42):
I mean you could just they don't do a good
enough job, or do you have you have they use?
Speaker 6 (18:46):
We use like an acacia based gum.
Speaker 7 (18:48):
Right, so when you heat it up, the gum will
if you put it like a lighter underneath the paper
without burning it, right, don't burn the paper, the gum
will curl because it's releasing basically it's humidity.
Speaker 6 (18:56):
It shrivels, it'll curl.
Speaker 7 (18:58):
The Chinese ones use a chemical based gum that we
don't use, and so we could.
Speaker 6 (19:02):
You could heat it all day. It's not gonna move.
Speaker 7 (19:04):
Maybe it'll burn burn the other way, but it's not
gonna do that curl, So we call it the gum
line curl test. That's the easiest way to tell nice
the counterfeit Chinese cones, they don't even gum, they don't
include them, and just wrap it in a spiral so
it looks like a cone and you can just open
it up.
Speaker 6 (19:19):
It also burns nothing like ours. That's the easiest way
I can put it.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Right.
Speaker 7 (19:23):
So whenever we get a complain of someone saying, oh,
this happened or that happened, we check, and more often
than not it's its counterfeit, you know. And it's a
bummer because here's the thing. The consumer, the smoker doesn't
know it's fake.
Speaker 6 (19:34):
They think I suck, right, And I'm.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
Like, I don't suck, Like I'm not longer than anyone.
Speaker 5 (19:39):
I know. If it's her first time, you know, it's
their first time, it sucks. And there's always add first time.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
I mean, if you think about how widely spread your
product is daily, there's play that first time us.
Speaker 6 (19:51):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, everything.
Speaker 7 (19:52):
I mean it's people turn twenty one every day, yes,
and you know it as you.
Speaker 5 (19:56):
Bring that up.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
But like you do the high five with Josh, the
anges them wrong, Well, shouldn't haveumber one because you kind
of went that way.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Yeah, what is the how old are the first time
you got high?
Speaker 4 (20:04):
And who'd you get highway?
Speaker 7 (20:06):
I was really young and I can'tais eighty age because
the podcast forever.
Speaker 6 (20:11):
I was tough. Fuck, we're definitely under the bus.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
My brother was sixteen, I was six. Oh damn, and
he's fucking out. The grenadi was.
Speaker 6 (20:22):
Pow are you?
Speaker 3 (20:22):
Oh shit? You want to hear your name?
Speaker 5 (20:24):
Jana live on the show on Penny Time.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
Nineteen eighty can't leave on the point mail.
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Speaker 4 (20:52):
Damn, that's the pre way to.
Speaker 6 (20:53):
Fucking smoke the first time put smoking a six is
the horrific thing.
Speaker 5 (20:56):
Should never ever, ever ever do that?
Speaker 3 (20:58):
Never went twenty six?
Speaker 4 (21:00):
Were twenty six yet a Blowjus, I haven't smoked it
joined the twenty six? That's why I looking at you.
I said, fucky, although maybe I want to smoke, you
know what I mean? You why I said that? To you,
I'm like, oh my god, you're making show show.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
Look when I say I'm sobering it, I got give
my champ, you know.
Speaker 4 (21:16):
What I mean?
Speaker 6 (21:17):
Yeah, yeah, I understand.
Speaker 7 (21:19):
I respect that. I will not ask you to smoke
it anyway. I understand.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
No, no, no, no no no.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
When I love the product, thank you.
Speaker 4 (21:26):
And I would if I and I use cannabis for
medicinal news, I'll use oil skins and yeah, we'll have
an agreed. But I won't smoke a joint our blunt
because you're mad to trigger in my head as I
think it is.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
But what you said made sense.
Speaker 6 (21:41):
Yeah, of course.
Speaker 5 (21:42):
Number two of the high five, what is your favorite
way to use or smoke cannabis?
Speaker 6 (21:46):
I really just prefer to roll one up and smoke it.
Speaker 7 (21:48):
Pure flower, pure flowers, as organic as it can be.
Ideally for me, a plant that at least once in
its life has seen the sun because I'm vegan, I'm
a true naturalist, and that plant wants to see the sun.
Speaker 5 (22:04):
That's a lot of the same as you and I.
Speaker 7 (22:06):
Our DNA with that plant is too similar, more similar,
and people want to admit I know what it wants.
You know what it wants. Yeah, it doesn't want to
grow into artificial light. We can do that, but at
least give it some lightness for a little bit.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
So do you feel like, you know, I mean that
sun grown is is is, It has its own I
don't want to say it's as good because just do
you think it's what he thinks better?
Speaker 5 (22:29):
I mean, obviously you believe in the sun grown better?
Speaker 6 (22:31):
Is is so subjective? Yeah, I can only tell you
what is more natural?
Speaker 5 (22:34):
Got you?
Speaker 6 (22:35):
Sun is more natural? Sure so?
Speaker 7 (22:37):
And I really want to live a more natural life.
So my preference is to try to be natural. I
love indoor stuff. Man, we can bring that ship through
the fucking roof indoor. But we're getting kind of close
to gmocorn is is where the industry has been going,
and that scares me and it makes me sad, you know.
Speaker 6 (22:54):
So I like both, I really do.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
I agree with the natural sunlight, that mother Earth and
everything that.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
So I grew up on Aljor and and honestly, some
of the indoor that grows it smells good, it tastes incredible,
it's incredible, but it sometimes it's for me. It's it
gets me a little too high, you know. I enjoy
still you know sun grown. That's quality.
Speaker 7 (23:23):
Okay, here's what I'll tell you, which I shouldn't really say.
And this is just personal for me. And I don't
know why sun grown reduces my pain in my back
more than indoor. I don't know why you say sun
grown reduces the pain that I have in my back
more than indoor. Jack Herro told me a story and
I can share it if you want. I'll just what
(23:43):
end on a beautiful Jack note if you want. Ever.
Speaker 6 (23:45):
I have miss share, man. I fucking missed that guy.
Speaker 7 (23:47):
So Jack used to yell at me in the nineties
about how Josh, you have can't. When Jack would talk
to you, he'd be hitting you with his hand like
this the whole time in your chest. I got he's
one of those guys. So Jack would yellow me, this
is all from memories. If I'm wrong, Jack, I'm sorry, bro.
I'll see you soon. It was there's a cancer growing
inside you right now, Josh.
Speaker 6 (24:07):
And when I was talking, we were talking about extracts.
Speaker 7 (24:12):
The thing you extracted out might be the thing that
you needed to stop that cancer from growing in you
right now, Josh, you don't know. And he's talking about
we only know this, Turpini. Is this that we know
so little about the plant? The part you don't know
is the part you don't know. Like you're right, Jack,
You're right Jack, You right Jack, You're right Jack. You're
right Jack, You're right Jack. So that kind of you know,
(24:32):
when you have role models like that, role models literally
beating it into your chest. He I believe he's right,
I really do so. Full spectrum is full spectrum. That
means it saw the full spectrum of Mother Earth's sun,
that planet burning out there. The plant saw it. It
absorbed everything was supposed to absorb. It gave me everything
I could get from it, and then maybe, just maybe
(24:54):
it helps me in some way that I don't even know.
Speaker 5 (24:56):
Wisdom right there, wisdom. Thank you for saying that. That's Beau.
Speaker 6 (25:00):
I hate sheer you because then I don't want some
guys who growing indoor to be like that.
Speaker 5 (25:03):
You know, I'm not against anything.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
I love it all, I really love it all.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
But it makes sense. It's outdoor, it's sun. You can't
replicate the sun like the sun. I know you just can't.
Question Number three, what's your go too? Munchies after you
get high?
Speaker 7 (25:18):
My favorite is vegan cheesecake, and if not vegan cheesecake,
if it's like daytime, it's going to be an Ethiopian
dish called me, Sir Watts, M my s I R.
It's this delicious red lentil dish for Ethiopia. It is,
as I'm saying it. I'm starting to get spittle on
your microphone because my mouth is salivating.
Speaker 6 (25:35):
It is so good. It is so good.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Okay, sorry, question before the High five, was the craziest
place you ever smoked or used cannabis?
Speaker 7 (25:42):
Well, okay, the funniest one was the dean's bathroom in
high school. We got blessed and I got a lot
of trouble for that one.
Speaker 6 (25:52):
Yeah, I gotta expel pretty much. I asked to leave.
Speaker 5 (25:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
Number five is gonna be kind of tough, i'd imagine
because you're the owner of raw Josh. You've smoked with everyone.
But if you could smoke cannabis with anyone, dead or alive,
who would have been why? Well, okay, dead or alive.
I'm sorry, guys, it's gonna be my grandmother because I miss.
Speaker 5 (26:14):
Her, would be my mom's, my dad.
Speaker 7 (26:18):
There's so much I really do. Sorry to hear that,
but there's so many other people. I'd love to smoke
with people I like, older people who can really share
with me story wisdom.
Speaker 5 (26:28):
Yeah, they give that wisdom and then if they were alive.
Speaker 7 (26:32):
Alive at the moment Willie before he goes, I smoke
with WILLI and I really want to smoke with Willie.
Speaker 6 (26:36):
I really want.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
To want to listen to your team has said that,
You've actually said that a few times, So ladies and
gentlemen really know, sir.
Speaker 6 (26:44):
Oh my god, you gotta be.
Speaker 8 (26:51):
Oh my god, Cannabish good five tribes we are Josh
and josh Is said, let's wrap it up. Well a guy,
next guy, good bye.
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