Shavo, from the band System of a Down

Shavo Odadjian from System of a Down shares amazing stories about when they started the band and he explains everything about his cannabis company 22Red.

 

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the big base heavy metal band system of the down.
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He also plays the base in a trap group North Kingsley.
Are you still doing that too? That is so dope
that I heard you. When I've seen and read that
you did that, I was curious if you're still doing that.
His new company, twenty two Read, is a lifestyle brand
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Twenty two Red's mission is to create an amplified cannabis

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lifestyle that celebrates the creative of the world. All your
creatives out there, This is for you, guys. Born in
l A. They take pride in providing badass products across cannabis, music,
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(02:57):
Child book. Thank you for having me do Hey, it's
great to have you on. I mean, I love the
fact that you're in l A boy since five years old.
I just there's so many dope things about you that
I feel like I didn't realize you were only here
from five. I think you're like born and raised l
A Cat right, Like when I just read everything today,
I was like, oh funk, I didn't know I wasn't
born here. Yeah, I thought you were like l A

(03:18):
born and raised you know, well, you know five years old,
you don't remember. Yeah, I don't even remember l A
all day pretty much, you know what I mean. That's
what I figure about you. That's what even when I
want to shot, like my impression like you never met
and Steve Hans, which I don't know. North Kingsley Drive.
The band's name is North Kingsley, So I grew up there,
so I had to everything I brand kind of has

(03:39):
to do with something that I believe in, like love
and can talk about story, you know what I mean.
So it's it's deep in my heart. And and that
being said, the band system of the Down, I mean,
how does it even walk us up to even becoming
the bass player of this because I was reading you're
you're working here, you're working there. Walk us through the
nutshell of what I read and your experiences of that

(04:00):
I've stopped before you come an international player. That's sucking
traveling the world on this big band. All right, well ship,
where do I start? And then we get to the
of course, to cannabis, but I want yeah. Well, um
So I started playing guitar around eleven, twelve years old. Well,
I was so when I was five, I came to
America and I saw Kiss on solid Gold and I

(04:20):
tripped out. It kind of affected me. I was like, fuck,
you can play music and wear makeup and perform and
like crowds of people will dig you. And so it
was something I always like. I was intrigued by bands
and music, even in Armenia, and my mom says she
used to play me beatles and play me all sorts
of stuff. And I was always a fan of music.
I sang, I danced. Um So it was just part

(04:42):
of me. I always wanted to play the guitar. I
kept asking my parents please give me a guitar, and
they wouldn't do it because, you know, the old army
and mentality was you make the sky musician, he's gonna
be a starving musician, you know he's not. So they
want to be the lawyer, doctor all that. Pretty much.
I happen to be Army. So yeah, but I'm sure.
I'm sure you at the same vibe. Um. So it

(05:03):
was around eleven twelve years old. I think my grandma,
my dad's mom, gots so she um she snuck it
in and she got me a Cramer Excel guitar from
Guitar Center and I fucking was like, yeah, so no lessons.
I just jammed away in my room every day. Actually,
my dad's cousin was a guitar player. He came through
with some lessons, but on the second day of him

(05:24):
showing me three chords, I was already on the seventh,
you know, I was just drn I was listening to bands.
I was iron maide In a Slayer. I mean, just
the ship that I grew up on, and I played
along to it. And that's how I learned how to
play music is play along to ship. And then once
you do that, I was inspired to write my own.
It was just in me, I guess, you know, because
I just love to play. It was just the thing

(05:44):
it was. It wasn't a job, it wasn't a chore.
It wasn't my parents made me do. It was my
parents home and wanted Yeah, my parents didn't want me
to do it. And I was doing it, so I
did that had a lot to do with it. I
was playing guitar, and then around seventeen years old, I
was starting bands and it was really hard to find
a bass player. It was there was a lot of
guitar players, a lot of drummers, but no bass players.

(06:06):
And and I had them. I tried a lot out,
had a band called Player As, a band called vamp Here,
and all these little gud bands where I just played
guitar and I was looking for and one the bass
player either was like a virtuosto and he wanted to
be the guitar player, or he just was picked it
up just like yesterday. It was just jamming and did
not know how to play chord, you know. And it's
funny you say that for those who are listening moreline

(06:27):
light as a as a guitar player than a bass player.
So that's so funny. Pretty much you were in the
line might oh, I'll take a step I was like,
I'll take a step back as long as it sounds
good because there's so many guitar players I could find.
I'll do the base the way I want to just
meet and potatoes. Man, I feel like the bass should
be the root of the music. The drums and bass
gotta connect, and then the guitar player. So it's like
a meal, you know, it's like a stew. You get
to meet the potatoes, the based on the drums, and
then the salt and pepper art the singer and the vocalists.

(06:49):
They add the spice. As long as you got a
heavy When I say heavy, I don't mean heavy metal music.
I mean like a good solid bass and yeah, yeah,
you got the foundation and the rest just do what
they do. Um not knock in the same or guitar players.
But so that's what I did, and then we just
a few I didn't. I was in one band called Roswell,
and then in the same studio complex were these guys

(07:10):
jamming that I had known from like elementary school, and
they were just jamming in different bands, and um, I'd
finished my rehearsal and then go hang out with them.
And they started a band called Soil and they were
really cool. They'd like intricate different type of music and
I loved it. And but I was already in a
band and they had a full band and we became friends.

(07:32):
Like this guy was talking, let's let's make them our
managers asked me. They asked me if i'd be their manager.
I said, dude, sure, I loved your music. I could
sell it. So I started pumping him, trying to get
them shows, and they imploded and so the bass player left.
I guess they asked me to join. Then the drummer
took off, so I just said, let's scrap this and

(07:54):
start something new, dude, you know. So that's when system
was born. But we didn't have a drummer, so it
was me and in Surge just kind of talking about
how it's going to be. And that's where my weed
ship started because it was like Darren used to smoke
a lot of weed, and I had smoked here and there,
but I hadn't, like, not everyday smoke, you know. So
we had a studio, no music, like, no band yet,

(08:14):
but we had a studio. So every night he picked
me up, Darren, we'd go to Alverado buy some weed
off Hoover and Pico area. You know, you know, they
bring it. We had a way we'd asked for like
a nickel sack, and then they put the weed in
our hand and would say somewhere, bro somewhere, they give

(08:34):
more than a nickel. That was give me two of
those now, so we get like a fatter tent stack, brilliant.
The early come up and then it's all about the
us and then you get your But we didn't slip
it at the time that one night we Darren and
Night would get rid of that in one night. That's stress,
you know. Um. So we hang out and talk about

(08:57):
how system, what was going to happen the system, and
how badass we're gonna be, and we just like, how
did the name we manifested? So Darren wrote a poem
named Victims of a Down and he brought that out
as a as the band's name. And I didn't really
like victim. I didn't want to be a victim because
I said, if we ever get big, they're gonna yell
the first word, you know, like they do now that
yell system, And I don't want to be your victim.
You know it doesn't I don't want to be a

(09:18):
victim my whole life. So then he came back with
system and I said, there it is, bro Now the
victims are part of the system, where the actual entity
badass and we're using the word down as a noun
which is fucking weird right a down. So I thought
it'd be if it caught on. I said it'd be
badass at first people. With our first show we were
System of the Dawn d A w N the Dawn,

(09:41):
and then the second time we were see stema of Down,
which I'm sure it was some homies out there putting
to sign up right, and then um, seem so who
did the show? Do it again? Fix it? Um? Yeah,

(10:02):
there's pictures of me up there on the on the
market with someone giving me a boost, trying to change
the aid. Yeah, all hands on and at that time,
so before the show has happened, I probably pretty much
did what I was gonna do for Soil the first band.
First System, I worked, I Um, I was working at
a bank doing wire transfers. I was going to college,
Glendale College, and then I would rehearse and then I

(10:23):
would do the same thing every day. So I'd wake
up at five, be at work at six in downtown,
get off at three, go to school five, get off
at seven, go to practice it eight, be done by ten,
same thing the next day. And while I'm doing wire transfers,
I'd be calling the whiskey or Roxy and be like, yo,
this is what I get this band? Yeah, like what's

(10:43):
the stama of what? And and then but they would
all ask for a demo and I didn't have a
demo because we had no money. Folks. But we were
all living with our folks and we had no money.
It wasn't like today where we had the computers and
you can make a demo in your backyard or it
was anything real to real, but you're talking yeah in
a real studio, Yeah you could. Yeah, you need to up.

(11:07):
So I had to get some shows. It was like
a cash twenty two. Let see how I did that. Yeah, yeah,
check out the so we the dude from the Roxy
who ended up being our first tour manager, hum shout.
Remember but at the door the uh uh tattoo on

(11:32):
that Yeah yeah, he had a group called Centered uh
Gravity or yeah, something like that. Later on he was
a security guard. But that's cool. So finally they said
how many tickets can you sell? Because they don't know
we sounded like a demo tape. So I said whatever, man,
we got a lot of fans, like fans meeting friends.
You know, we're the first ar meaning band in l A.

(11:53):
So pretty much. We had everybody from pret and everybody
that goes to He's just coming to wet there was
at the time back in the day broom we could
talk about that. So anyways, long story short, Bro, they
gave a show at the Roxy opening up some band
and they didn't know we sounded like pretty much. So

(12:14):
they kind of had three sca bands, three scar bands
after us, seven bands on the bill. We had like
twenty minutes right in the middle, and we told everybody
we sold like a hundred fifty tickets, Bro, because we
had a lot of friends and family, and so there
was like thirty people in the crowd for the first
three bands we went on and hundred fifty people came
in caused the pit went crazy. And then once we
were done twenty minutes. Once we were done, everyone left.

(12:35):
It was you know, tickets crickets after that. And then
and there was a writer there that day just happened
to be from rock Cety News and wrote something crazy
happened in l A. This new band out and that
kind of catapulted us to the next gig, which they're like,
can you do that again? Like, yeah, we can't. Still
no demo. First band in l a getting shows with
out of demo, we got another this ship so did

(13:00):
that again and then after that wouldn't sell tickets again.
But the rest is history. Bro what a story. We're
all of you guys from the Glendale area. No, none
of us, Darren only I'm from l A, Hollywood, North Kingsley,
Driver Surgeon, Darren John were probably North Hollywood and the
Valley area. When I first moved out from the Bay Area,
I moved to Glendale right off a brand and like

(13:20):
Central work. Yeah, yeah, I was on fair of you.
I had a little apartment right there, and that's when
I used to go to Rockys was nineteen was not
which place the Pettah Well maybe a few years after
I worked at Power six. I don't think I went
there right away because somebody took me there and then
I was like, oh my god, this restaurants in my town.

(13:42):
So I think it probably three four years after I've
been in and so Ladies or nineties, uh late that,
right before two thousand, so I go. I think it
was already there right I got here. What was the
what was the first hit right that that like was
really really adopted, like that one record, Sugar Sugar Yeah,
they played it on k Rock for the first time

(14:04):
unedited day. I had no idea that was cussing in
at the end. So it was like, I think it
was Jet the fish or someone. And he was like,
I found this, found this demo tape. It was the
first demo tape we made, and he found it. Like
it was like some friend handed to him to disbanded
killing every day right now. Yeah, played them so it
was like the catch of the day. Yeah, it was
Jet the fish catch of the day of the day.
So they caught us that day and they played it

(14:24):
and at the end it's like you to rock selling
scrambling to bleach it. I still had that seven seconds
the hopefully they caught it on a note. You know
we heard you on the air. Yeah I heard it
because someone told me. Yeah, yeah, someone called me and
on right now. Feel what was that, like like that's

(14:46):
my hometown city, you know, and uh actually might have
not gotten the call. I think I was listening and
it happened because I didn't have a phone back then,
so no one called me. I was listening to car
Rocks that's to listen to at the time that and
Can was around maybe and then uh, you know klosh,
but there was no satellite nothing back then, so yeah, dude.

(15:07):
And then they also put that ship on the Furious
five at nine later on it what you can vote
for it, and everyone voted for that for months, so
it was like number one for months. So anytime you
wanted to hear system, you know, nine PM on Cara Up,
they were gonna yeah, because of the top five songs.
And you know, it's crazy. So you know if far

(15:28):
back as you go, you know what I mean, it's
it was different to blow up, right because you had
to do a lot more flutwork. And I hate, I
hate like thinking about it, but like you know right now,
and the artists could just kind of like you said,
that's why there are so many, That's why the competition
is what it is. I had to go to Kinko's
and I had to make like with um, I still

(15:50):
have all of them. Bro glue pen fucking glue steak.
You know, you know, cut it, type it, cut it up,
stick at four times on the page it makes, then
sliced him into four Stickers were made there, the ones
that put everything, and then we'd walk around Melrose l
a stick him everywhere giving it away. I actually before

(16:13):
we had a show, I had a logo already. I
actually did the logo. So a friend of mine, UM
had another friend that was a little weird looking. When
I met him, I was at Psycho looking. UM hit
this weird grin looked like a businessman, but he was
a kid. Um. Later I found he was SETI schizophrenic.
But I asked him, I said, man, can I take
some pictures of you? He's like sure. So I put

(16:35):
systems down in his chest with with with my mom's lipstick,
tied him up in my backyard and then started. I
pushed him and he fell, starts struggling, and that's when
I snapped all the pictures. So the pictures are real,
like he's just like trying to get out of it,
and I got some extreme moments of some dude being
like censored. You know what I'm saying. That was the

(16:55):
whole thing system of a down huge that the big
So that's the cover of our first demo. But what
I did is I put him on nine eight tends
and go and like when other bands are playing and
I'd stand outside and pass that on them. What the
fund is this? I'm like don't wantybody just get the
name in your head. So I branded it prior to
like us having a show or a demo. I just said,

(17:17):
we're a band, check it out and like when are
you playing? We're not we we still don't play, you know,
so but I just had that. I just kind of
gave it just new so shot, how long before you
heard it on k rock because that's an unlicensed band,
no label, nothing, they get a demo? How long before
you get the deal? And does it? Because in my
head I'm thinking it was Hella fast No, no, not

(17:40):
at all, but years years, years, wow, I went to
be played on k rocking because getting played a and
your hometown is hard, and if your hometown is the
number two market in the world, which is Los Angeles,
even back then it was the number two market in
the world. That's my point is that's why in my
head I was like, dude, if you make it in
l A, you should be able to pop on the
west coast of Kansas on this way we were playing

(18:04):
with God signed got picked up before us. Were that
red headed stepchild that just kind of got left behind.
I'm like, you think I think it was that our
singers sounded so freaking different than anybody else. Our music
was no one really knew how to categorize it. So
the labels would come. They were all there. They would
show up every show, but no offers were given to
us till that Viper Room show that Rick Rubin came.

(18:25):
Guy a series from Maverick brought Rick in because he
was coming, but he didn't sign us, and he brought
Ricks that this might be something Rick might be interesting
because it's so weird, right, and then and then hip
hop became the first that show. After the show, he's like,
I want you done, like wre fuck. And then all
of a sudden, every fucking label started dropping deals on it,
so it became a bidding war so everything, and then

(18:48):
well there's are we talking about System Terror twenty two
because we're gonna got stories because so we're gonna rush.
So what happened was, um Rick offered m C a
offer and I think I love the A and R
at road Runner even even though they were indie label,
and sorry, um so I kind of kept them in

(19:09):
the mix, and uh, we were going with this other label.
So this is the true story. So Universal was a
subsidiary at the time. Small label through m c A
which doesn't existing yet, and then there was a subsidiary
under Universal called Cherry Music Joelian Cherry, who is the president.

(19:30):
They offered us something I don't know what it was
that we vibed with. Were like, we're the minor, we
still have the major you know label pushed at me,
sorry guys, still still the I'm still going we need

(19:50):
you take it. I'm not gonna take it, Okay, dealers,
I don't know. That's that's the kind your kid. If
you didn't take that, it was like that I would
take it. I got the three kids. Anyways, So we
actually agreed to sign with Jolian Cherry's labeled that Cherry Music,

(20:13):
but we didn't sign nothing. We even had like the
toast and then we played a show under Universal Recording
artist system of it down. Everyone's amped and Eddie or
Tell at the roxy was just like announced us as
finally it happened, everybody, We're about to go on stage
like I have the great you know pride to like
you know, announced this and universe over and then so

(20:35):
this is crazy story, bro. So I was hanging with
someone after that after we agreed to sign. But we
have just a friend and her mom was a like
a fortune teller style thing going on Italian. I can't
Belieme telling the story. Um. So she read my tea

(20:55):
leaves at the time and it was just for fun,
we're doing this. She didn't know me, she knows nothing
about me. She just knows I'm friends with their daughter. Um.
And she's like, oh, you have music over guy, she
said something, and then she goes, by the way, mercury
in retrograde, and your birthday and this and this don't
make any lifelong decisions important anything In the next two weeks.

(21:15):
I'm like, funk, We're about to sign, you know. So
so I'm like, this is horrible. And then so I
go to my Badley laughed at me, and then I
tell my manager and he goes, no, wait, we've waited
this long. We can wait two fu weeks. Why don't
we go to Why don't we go Why don't we
go to New York? And we've never met the New
York Department of like m c A. See how they are,

(21:38):
you know, the actual people that will be handling. So
we fly out to New York with third lawyer and
ship and then manage just wasn't it was bad, bro,
It's just they're having a pizza party for us. And
I saw something like the product manager going like this
to our music play it was a demo tape and
then they what do you mean? Like yeah, Like I'm
then into this and I'm like did I just see that?

(21:58):
And then it was like a bad, horrible moment's happening,
and I'm looking at my band, I'm looking at my manager.
And then there was a moment where they they started
like talking about the marketing how they're gonna do it,
and they said, we'll start with a cover song, We'll
put it all over the radio, and I'm like, funk,
That's the one thing we don't want to do is
like blow up a radio band. We're a live band.

(22:19):
People should know us for anyway. So we went That
was a terrible meeting. We came down, were like what
do we do? But we didn't sign nothing. We can
call Rick, So so we call up Rick. He's like,
what's up? I remember this? It was a conference call
and you still want us? And it was silence. I'm
like fuck. He hung up right, He's pissed. I was like, sorry,

(22:40):
I just dropped my ice cream. He gets back on
and he says, what do you guys need more money?
I go, we don't need more money. We don't need
nothing like that, because you gotta pay that ship back anyway,
So when take more? And so we just said no,
we don't want a single until we still a certain
amount of records. Then like a year, you know, of
us touring, all that money you were going to put

(23:01):
on a single on radio, put it on tour support.
Let's go out there and fund the ship up and
have the bands love us for us, not for that
one song they're here on the radio, which will kind
of pigeonhole us into a style, and then if they
don't like the next time, organically organically grow. So we
and he goes done. Next day there was a contract,
we signed it and the rest is history. Brow And

(23:24):
then a year later m c A died, right Universal
took over by m c A drop Cherry Records. We
would have been done. Oh how long, dude, if you
were staring Rick Rubin at In for how long till
now you're still with like that? We're with American Columbia

(23:48):
under Sony Columbia American. I don't know how that works
now but that's how we signed a deal. I don't
know where we at and we would have Yeah, how
dope it. That's even crazy crazy you right, those as
you know, those type of relationships don't just stick around.
Oh dude, well they do if they have like us,
like the heavy band that actually did well, did well,

(24:10):
and you know what, show a great story and we
come back now. I want to walk us all the
way into twenty two red. It's Cannabis Talk one oh one.
Will be right back after this. Keep it locked. We'll
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(24:32):
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And there's a little lighth grade boy in me that
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body because her and I joke inside the craziest things
people even looking, I'm like, courage, it's not that cool
to her. Joe, You guys, hear me, now, believe me.

(25:14):
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read before. It kind of sounds familiar on this podcast
if you've been listening to this podcast, Because we were
fortunate enough to get blessed Shabo by one of your reps.
S b H was just on the show. He was
on the show and he broke. That's why I was
not so rushing to get into the We just had

(26:18):
a hopeful episode about it. Brother, that's amazing, you know
what I'm saying. So we didn't have the founder. You
are good, but the good thing. And I want to
give props right now to this guy for you because
SPH is pushing for you. And I don't need to
say this for him right like, I get nothing for
saying but you're do. Maybe I could, but my point
is I don't andy you, bro, Yeah, what's going on? Hey,

(26:39):
I'll tell you this what you ready for? What he
did YouTube? He made us. He randomly made a song
on the left field he did for us, and I
love it where he goes right now about you. But
my point is all bullshit aside. He really is dope,
and he represents your brand better than anybody I could

(27:00):
expect because I'm familiar with it now he can't. He
wears it well, he lives it. He's part of the culture.
He's been around for a while with us, and and
he's a g right like he's part of the culture.
The whole rock star looking. He got the vibe. Bro.
He came to me. I met him at a signing.
I was I was at an in store. I think
it was cookies and he actually bought two weeks ago.
And it was like three years ago. No, no, three

(27:22):
years ago. I'll play I'm banging on Joe. That he
came through and I met him and he said, look,
we had no money to hire no one yet. You know,
it was just the founders. That's it doing. I was
like doing everything. And then um, he's like, I'll do anything.
I'll sell for you guys. I'll do this as great.
And then when the time came for us to hire
a salesman, he's what we hired and we still have him.

(27:43):
He's ready for This is about the place I'm not
gonna hear this. I'm gonna have to judge this. Yeah,
I want you to judge. I mean, should I send
it to you so you can play it on a
good thing, pitt Are you want to just play it
right there? But put it in the let me put
in the mics. You guys could hear this is here?
It is here's dingle ever heard. He put together that

(28:38):
old school jingle mother used to make for you know,
every station. Yeah, that you should pay for that ship. Yeah,
that's just kidding. Yeah, you really get some publishing on
that people, You really do. Yeah, asked for it outside
the waiver. He signed it, did you. He's always been

(29:01):
bad if we could do something. By the way, I
still haven't signed the way I'm all here, I haven't
really I will, I will, but I want to give
your boy props. So I know that you've got a
good guy represented. And he did that and play that.
He's still with us Broyes, so that thing because we're
doing other other things now. The salespeople are kind of
like we have our distributors have the salespeople, but we

(29:23):
still keep him as brand managing as he handles ship.
And I like how he reps us he um. He
knows the product well, he knows the brand well. He's
been around from day one so well day two. But
day two was like day one for us, because day
one was really like BC, you know before before cannabis
um and I love it, um And how did it

(29:44):
all come about? About me? Where does twenty two red
come from? From the name to the whole concert? Um?
Me and my friend wanted to start a brand together.
I've I've had this old school friend, one of my
best friends I've known since seven years old. Our dads
were friends and we've always talked about doing something together.
He works in the tech stile like clothing, um like,

(30:05):
he has a factory, a clothing factory in l As
I say you want to have a brand, do you
go to him? You say, I want these products, He'll
make it for You'll brand it for you. You know.
So he does that. He's been doing that forever. So yeah,
why don't we do like a lifestyle brand and it
could be you know, revolved around what I like, which
is minimal branding, um, but cool branding, you know, like
things that yeah, like, it's not like full I love that,

(30:26):
by the way, I'm pretty much non branded, you know, um,
but still have your ship on that. Although you have
that comes all the way down your belt. There's that
part like small things, you know, not major branding. But
when it's when you see it, you say, okay, it's classy.
So we started doing some shirts and some you know, clothing,

(30:49):
and a third partner was introduced to me and I
knew him from the past, and I knew he grew wed,
but I didn't know what like size, what like what
he was doing, you know. And we went to his
grow and one of his grows and you could lick
the floor, no joke, and it was it was like
the bomb. It was a class and I was should

(31:11):
I smoke? I was like, I could rep this. And
for years since Kelly has been legal, people have been saying,
companies coming up, we should make shov o g and
make some you know, make your weeds flavor. And I'm like, no, dude,
you guys make the weed. I'll smoke it, you know
what I mean. I don't want to. I want to
be a part of it if I don't know what's
going on with how it's done. You know. I don't
want to rep something I don't know how it's made.
And he was doing it every time. But when this

(31:34):
guy and I can trust him, I know him from
the past, I didn't know how great he was. It
was just great, dude, this is it. Let's let's team
up equal and go kill it. And that's how it started.
And that's when b C that's when it became cannabis,
you know, and we just it's about premium goods. We
don't have a name yet nothing. It's anything that I

(31:54):
will smoke and take where goes into the brand. That's
how it started. Um. They fully trusted me with my
vibe and how I wanted it. So I got rains
on that, which was really cool of them and smart
I took it in brand. You know, yeah, because you're
an artist and you know it's like let the let
the artist do a thing, and I, you know, I
believe in that. Man, A team is good when you
have good you have people good at what they do

(32:16):
and it's not with the same thing as that. You know,
they each do something different, but well, and then you
know you could do something, you can do something, I
can do something, and we do it together and we
have this great products. Yeah exactly. We're bouncing off each other.
You guys bounce off each other. I could tell. So
we started and we were in so the name yeah. So, um,

(32:36):
I didn't want to be a celebrity brand. I didn't
want it to be where people were buying the weed
because or the product because I was a celebrity and
they're fans of my music, so they're gonna be fans
in my weed. It has nothing to do each other.
I could make good music and sucky weeds. So I
don't want that. So, Um, I didn't want to make
name it shovel or system or anything having to do
with that a song the world. I didn't want to

(32:59):
put my face on there either, you know. So I
had a vibe with colors, uh, something I could relate to.
Just the white's, the reds, the blacks. You know, Um,
we're not any more color. But and then twenty two.
So I'm born April twenty two, I'm tours. Yeah, Uh,
I'm married May twenty second. I was twenty two when

(33:19):
I got signed. H twenty two has always been on
my jersey. It's just that number that flows with you
all the time. And I was popping up everywhere. Um,
I was forty four when I thought of twenty two
reds twenty two and a half. I've been doubled. So
and then I've realized this. I have three kids. I
have a four year old girl turns four next week.
I have an eight year old boy and a ten

(33:39):
year old boy. They are born two years and twenty
two days apart. I ain't kidding you. The boys my
first two. So there two years and twenty two days. Bro,
they're both born in September the eighth and thirty. And
I found that out later after I did some math.
I was like, number, miss Smith is number twenty two two.
Don't know if you're a Dallas Smith. Okay, you can't

(34:03):
lose at all, Bro, deuces are wild. Um, so the
red comes from just I thought everybody was like this,
but I was told it's called sanast Asia, where you
relate uh senses with other senses. So like all numbers
and colors have color in my head. I'm sorry, numbers
and letters have colors in my head. So like a

(34:23):
is a color, one is a color, two has a color.
It's just that's how I've always seen it. I thought
everyone related that ship, you know. I didn't think it
was a thing. You know. So when they said twenty two,
what do you think of? Like I wanted a second word,
you know, and uh red, I go, I think of red.
They're like twenty two red boom. I'm like, it just
happened because we were going through a lot of names. Bro,
there was like it they all suck like or legend

(34:45):
and all this ship was like no, dude, I actually
hired a company to come up with the name. They
it was a waste of boom, a waste of money,
but will help you. I got you. Um, and I
see twenty two red when you were saying that, first
thing I thought was the rule that and it's twenty
two black on the roulette whel But I but I
thought of it because you're asking the question, you know,

(35:05):
So I just assumed it was it was rending with
gamble and then that's funny that it's black, and I
didn't know that. I thought, you can't bet on can't.
It's a cool little phrases you can come up with.
So I thought of cool things. But I just wanted
it to be a really organic, badass, you know, artistic band,
you know brand where it could be a band, like

(35:26):
our logo is a band logo. It's what it feels like,
like I wrap it, you know. I feel proud that
it's ours, you know. Um, I feel proud wearing it. Um.
And everything's gotta be quality, bro if I don't and
I do all the R and D, and I do
all of the quality control all the states. I travel
to Vegas constantly to check out the grows, make sure
that it's the right strange, the right, you know, growing

(35:49):
the right way going into my jars because that it's
gonna sell them, they're gonna say. And if it sucks,
they're gonna say that shovels. We not don't want that ever,
but you know so that you know, we've never had
a bad review yet, you know, I hope it doesn't have.
I often think like for for me, you know, is
I come from the artist world too, like I was
sharing with you off are you know. I mean I've
been you know, not not half as successful as you,

(36:10):
but um I did my thing, you know what I mean?
And I believe artists have the the best, you know,
quality cannabis because if they care, they have to care that.
There's a lot of artists out there that depend brands.
And I don't want to mention I can tell you
some of them. You don't have to, you know that
you know, celebrity brand that right there is a handicap,

(36:32):
no joke. And it's also just to come up for
a lot of these artists or celebrity who's but who's
coming whatever, they got their advantage on whatever they got
their front here it's not big, and then they just
kind of repped something they don't even know what it is.
They just that's the point though, Yeah, if they care
and there's quality control behind. Like you said, I fly
to Vegas, you know, do like Arizona right now, got

(36:53):
some new stuff. But I bet I have to test everything, bro,
I have to have It is a hard job to test.
What did you doing today? The reason I say that
is because artists like yourself, real artists like yourself have
been all around the world and you know how many
fucking joints and how much cannabis has been passed to you, right,
So you have stability. Yeah, you have the ability to

(37:15):
really test it, like you know, throughout So when you're
in front of some fire, you're like, this is fire
better than nine percent of people in this room. Like
you know what I'm saying. You see cannabis or weed
whatever the funk all around the world, and I've got
a small glimpse of that where I'm like, you know,
I'm doing a TV show and where I'm doing this show,
I mean, well we get a lot of weed. Everybody

(37:36):
gives a free ship, right, But you know in the
in the scheme of it, you've seen it because you
get to travel and that traveling to people are giving
you weed out all the time, so you could have yes, yeah, yeah,
and all kinds of ship. Did you actually try everything? Okay?
You know I try everything, but I have there are
times where we can't find weed, Like in Japan they

(37:58):
sell the pipes that they don't sell the weed. If
you ask for we like to anyone, they like look
away and like, dude, get away. You don't want to
be this guy's friend or not. It's like blasphemy over
there if you ask what it was. When I was
during nineties um Greece, we found we that automatic headache,
like but you're still we were still smoking it. It
was like it was just it was grinded ship, that's

(38:18):
what there was. No there was no buds, there was nothing.
It was just powder that we rolled and smoked with
some seeds in it. You know, I just need to
get it out. And then we'd about pipes and ship
on the road because we didn't have any in the
certain city. And it's hard to you know, at that time,
it was a crime bro in Vegas, for example, you
had a seed on you go to jail in trouble,

(38:39):
band on in trouble. You guys go to jail for it.
I've gotten in trouble. You know. It's like I've been around, yeah, right,
there was it ever with the band though, like on tour,
like you see they've been caught. Yeah, and I've been.
You know, I've been last I've been. Yeah, I've been.
Because you guys are known for it, so it's not
the system of the downs before. You know. That's another
also another thing too called when you're or bust and

(39:00):
you got the primaries, there's usually nothing guys that was like,
you know, there's one guy if if they're smart, the
guy steps up and goes, yeah, that was mine. I
got a story in Italy. So we arrived in Milan
and I had nothing on me zero and uh, I'm
walking through customs and this dog, just like my tour manager,
walks in front of me. I'm right behind him with

(39:23):
my bags on the cart and the dog was and
all of a sudden they pull me, Bro, They pulled
me into a room and now they're just going at
it like screaming at me, yelling at me. I'm in
in Italian, Bro, I don't know what's going on. And
then they bring my bags in that you got something
bonding and they're speaking in like broken English, and I'm like,
I have nothing, bro, check my ship, and so they're
going like I'm talking about it was there for thirty

(39:43):
forty minutes. They're screaming. They left me alone for a
while and see the camera the red light. They go
out like I'm about to go in and I hide something.
You know, Um, Bro's crazy. Forty minutes screaming and young
were practically I was gonna like a cavity search was
gonna about to go down, right, And I guess the
dog barked, so I went. Finally, after an hour of
being harassed in there, they let me go. I get

(40:05):
to my bus. They're they're like, okay, everyone's in there,
and my tour manager says he had a tape to
his balls and he was in front of me. Nice.
So when you want the dog got a wolf of
that and barked right in the middle night. I'm the
one that got the fall. But it's okay. We had weed.
That's it. Yeah, tapped to someone's balls, but yeah it
was it too red, it was, but it got you highest.

(40:30):
But you know what I mean, You know, like there's
been moments like that all over you know, it was stressful.
It was stressful having being a smoker and being on
tour and even times different countries. It makes me think
of that girl right now from the w n B
A that yeah, because of a cart right seap thing
like that, Like it's a very similar story. So like

(40:51):
when you see a story like that, though, like girl
in Russia, do you look at that going while I
could relate or did you just mess up? Because when
we were just talking about the other day and when
we were talking about our guys, Solar was out with
us too, and I was saying, I hate to say that,
I don't feel so bad when you know you're going
to Russia and then it don't come back from Russia,

(41:11):
Like what do you speaking at this day and age? No,
I would take it probably too. So I feel like
I feel bad for her. Yeah, but I don't get
it wrong. I feel bad, but I go in that
come on, I still man, still I can feel bad.
But so to Russia. You go to Russia, you're gonna
carry okay, watch brod not during the war, but you
know like what, I'm smokers. I need it for night.

(41:35):
I need it. Bro No, I get it, and I
agree it's not like I need to be high all day,
but there's times where I'm gonna want to smoke a
joint or smoke some we to get high. That's just
gonna happen. And like my guitar players worse, he needs
to have it. He won't go to a country if
we can't have it there. Yeah, yeah, we won't go.
So I mean, I've been on crazy. I was in Australia.
Darren doesn't go places that with we don't have Yeah,

(41:57):
we can't take it. It's part of his crimes, part
of his right, not part of his writer. But like
people knew, like we had friends everywhere. They would gather
at first, and then this this happened after we got
a little big and had some more. But at the
beginning we were just like you know, put in our pockets,
just any way possible get it in. And there was
no carts back then. It was real weed. We had
to take possible to put it in the camera. You

(42:19):
guys had the little camera rolls, remember the little round
cameras were a good seiler. Throw it in coffee on
the bus a lot and they wouldn't catch that. Um.
All sorts of ship man we would do. But we
throw in the gear mostly so if they busted it,
they just busted the gear. What kind of products lines
this twenty two red half. I mean so obviously you
guys got flour, but I mean what other In each

(42:39):
state we have different styles and stuff because of the
you know, the the climate. It's different, you know, people
like different things. So, um, in Cali we have pre rolls,
like but real weed pre rolls not stressed, I mean,
not not shaking small actual nug nug nut smoking, but
the way I was smoking. Um pre rolls. We we

(43:02):
had vapes and stuff that they were distillate and I
took that off the market, so no more distilate for us.
We will have live resin Pence coming soon. Um. And
then we're with Dizzy now, by the way, distributed here
in Cali, the first first ever like brand that attached them,
you know, with them, So yeah, we um, thank you
very much. Yeah. That just are huge. Our our footprints

(43:23):
gonna get much bigger. Right now. We're such a huge
at Dizzy shops right now, which is still good. It's huge,
but we will be everywhere soon, you know, so we'll
have more products coming up. Right now, it's only eight joints.
We will be doing um half ounces, we will be
doing concentrates, We'll be doing edibles, and we will have

(43:43):
those lib resent cards coming soon. UM. In Vegas, we
at the moment are not doing indoor because the quality
has gotten weird there, so I took it off the shelves.
We do have sun grown weed I call sun kissed
by twenty two red. We're selling those there because I
have a really good place that rows it for us.
Our genetics are genetics. Um. We have live resent pens

(44:04):
already and we have really good concentrates there. At the
moment the bomb concentrates, I swear by a lot of
dispensaries out there, and yeah, there's like seventy something of them,
so yea. And then we're really doing well in Arizona.
Those guys are are Destro and team there are freaking incredible.
I love them and give him a big shot out
flow distribution. They do us since Fizzy only at the

(44:26):
moment um they started with only us. It's one of
the partners. One of the investors in twenty two said
I'm gonna do this myself, moved to Arizona, started flow
with just doing destroy for twenty two and is killing
it like the second year and we're just like three
four brand numbers. He invested in it, I have. I'm
not involved in the destroy leave that alone. There's too

(44:48):
much to be involved. Um. I try to focus, bro,
If you're everywhere, you'll you'll slip up. Um. So they're
doing that. We have concentrates coming up there soon. I
told you he brought them over for me to test
over doing of concentrates. We don't have pans there, but
we do have pre roles, eight packs of pre roles
and also eights of like the dankest weed in Arizona.

(45:12):
So those are the three states. Three states, and I'm
gonna build build I just need because we've been offered
many other states are business model works with a lot
of different distributors out there that are willing to do
what we do, you know for us. But I just
want to focus on these three, blow it up and
then move up, you know, besides those three states. I
was just wondering, where do you think the band and
you have the other biggest pool. You guys are already

(45:33):
have a big name and push in California, Nevada, and Arizona,
But where would you think is that next move an
Even if it wasn't, I mean, ship cannabis can't even
be legal there. I'm just wondering what would like that
system of it down if we went there. They already know.
Twenty two Reds probably my my joint, and probably South America. Bro.
South America is my favorite. Really, you guys kill it
out there. You know, some people say we're big in

(45:55):
Japan like that their bands. We're big in South America,
bigger than anywhere the world. That's our bag. I've always
bonded with Latino's Latino, that's been my thing, but since
Hollywood that's been like all my girlfriends were Latino. It's
just the thing. It's funny though, you have a Latin
vibe to me. I don't know all day you do.
And here's the funny word. When I moved from the Bay,

(46:16):
funny when I moved out here from the Bay to
l A. I moved to Glendale. I've had so many
I mean I thought they were Mexicans. They're all Abuba
mexic I thought that check that they got a flag
on their hood. Culture the worst same there's a Bubba
music and they have the flag. Yeah, everything eating food,

(46:36):
eating rice and meat to be happy family, that culture
and Armenians and Mexicans. I swear to god, I knew
a couple back home, and then I came here. I
was like, I moved to Glendale. Oh my god. The
music when you say you know and they get it.
So they get the music more because we have that
flair in there. You can you can mix it up

(46:59):
with you know, Latino stuff, you know, because they got
that vibe of like when the dance comes in, you know.
So do you have the biggest show there too? Is
the biggest venue there too? Well, we did rock and
Rio a couple of years and headlined, So that's fucking
like three people in bro Just what type of places.
I don't know. It's a rock and rial happens if

(47:21):
for two years there and it's insane. It's like the
biggest concert thing and it's like that, it's like two
weeks of music. Man, it's fucking crazy. And it was
really dope. That's really dope. Yeah, It's like see if
people were that many people listening to the same music
at the same time. It's crazy with energy, like you
feel it, like you literally feel show them. Yeah, it's

(47:44):
it's overwhelming. It really is overwhelming when they scream there
louder than you with amplifiers. Bro. Sometimes when they're singing
like chop Stewe, because they all see the along to
that right you hear them. We would stop like we'd
be like, all right, go, you know you guys are
hearing us. You know you're not, You're not. No matter
what we do, you guys can't hear us. And it
was that big and you just put that out there.

(48:05):
My heart, My heart is always there, man. I love
those people because there they show. Yeah, yeah, they yet
that they show that they're having a good time. They
are not like in certain places they'll sit back and
be like, all right, entertain us. I did. They got
the attitude, you know, not them. They just fucking love
it from the from day one, you know, from the

(48:25):
first song on, they just showed that they're having a
good time. They're not. They don't need to be impressed,
they're already. I was at the Olympic Park Center, I
did that that venue in Australia. Yeah, and it was like,
you know, it's comfortable to like the Staples Center or
the Crypto Center, you know. And I got there and
it was half empty and ship but we rocked the show.

(48:46):
And it wasn't two people brot. It was you got
to go out of the country and perform. No, yeah,
it was it was you know, it was with we
did it with uh and harmonies like that. It was great.
It was a great event event. But I got to experience,
like you know, I would say, you know, fifteen twenty
thousand people or something like that. It could have been

(49:07):
forty or thir fifty thousand I think at maximum, but
there's probably people there. But it was a lot of
fun people and and and when you like you said,
when you hear and that's probably nothing for you, but
but still but you get that club clubs really cool.
But but what you described though, it took me, just
like you right now, It took me to a mental
place because you and I have experiences the the arenas

(49:28):
of the twenties and thirties, right, Like I've even fought
in front of twenty five thousand, right, So like that
was a good run. I hit somebody and I was like, oh,
I fought any times of ring and makes you think
I bring on stages and this and that with the
shows and stuff I done. But three thousand. That's a whole.
That's that's like something I expect it before you. You
need to see it to feel it. You took me there,
that's why. And you took me there like in a
place of I still I can imagine, but I can't

(49:51):
imagine so dangerous too though, like imagine being That's why
I haven't board in my head. I felt that would
about being in the middle of that. How you getting now? Yeah,
you know it's a something, don't that anxiety kicking and
not only that, the energy of the music is just no, no,
we've seen it looks like an ocean where they're rolling
that and it's going till the end of You're like
they'd enough security, they'd enough security routing to keep you saying,

(50:13):
but you know, thank god, there's all has been well
so far and nothing horrible has gone down like that.
It shows well, you're doing big shows. We love the shows.
You know you mentioned it's something you're proud of. Something
that I was proud of that I've seen online. Was
you supporting l a soccer with exhibit and be real
when we come back, we're gonna talk about this guy's

(50:33):
table hitting the drums on the streets of Los Angeles
at the soccer fields. We'll be right back. It's Cannabis
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(51:00):
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(51:42):
And as we were saying that and literally talking going,
how dope would it be to see Travis Barker, Snoop
Dogg and Chavo performing live for live? That would take
it to the next level. But who's Who's you know?
Who's putting it together? Who's in fighting four live? If
we just here right now, so here's well, well, who's

(52:02):
inviting me? Well, here's the get him there and then like, no, man,
we don't know. We got to home, so you can
do it. So we can do it. We can actually
really do. I love both those guys, so you know, yeah,
would you get up and start playing the basic one
the drum? One day? Is it? Hold on? I'm gonna
call the CEO of the company. Not all right, as
long as I'm in town. What's g four Live? Dates?

(52:26):
May eleventh to the four team, well through the fourteenth
May all right, twelve through the fourteen at Resorts World.
I leave on the eighteenth, So that's not bad. That
would work. Yeah, that would work. Let him know he's
on air, because he might be like, I don't like
that guy. Don't just give me bro, don't don't do
this now. What Today's Today's Wednesday in real life? Right? Today? Wednesday?

(52:48):
I don't know what day? Tuesday? Today, Tuesday? Okay, so Tuesday.
It's the twenty second today, by the way, not happy
twenty two Tuesday. I do to say on every twenty second,
including today, we're doing a giveaway, like a raffle giveaway
of some cool prizes. I just thought, since the twenty

(53:09):
second year, you know two, I said, every month this year,
on the twenty two of every month of two, we
want to give away ship for twenty two red. So
if you go on our I G twenty two red
um today, actually we're giving away a switch. So all
you have to do is yeah right now. So April
twenty two, we're having a big one because that's my birthday,

(53:30):
so we're doing yeah yeah, so we're doing a big
give like five grand or something, so like get All
you have to do is follow, sharing the post whatever,
just like the regular ship ever write that down here
I want and happy birthday. By the way, was just
turned fifty. Happy birthday, b Yeah we're close, yeah, age,
I thought, So let's looking at your bio thinking and

(53:51):
knowing who you were and stuff. Um. The funny part
about my world in life picking going. I've always heard
a system of the down. But I was at Power
and Kiss and you were at the Rocks. But I
always remember seeing you guys, but never met you, like
I met all the other artists right on this side
of the world of but like on all the chi
rack guys. We knew he took from Radio World, but
I didn't get a chance to meet those bands. So
it's funny that you though and your band crossed over.

(54:15):
Like when I remember seeing you guys doing show with
all the hip hop, were like, that's what's funny about
System of the Down, Like you guys crossed over the
hip hop world loved you and East Coast hip hop,
Like you know what I'm saying. To me, that's not
that it's harder than real, but to me, that's where
it came from. Let's just actually did a track with
our first ever tracked before an album. We did the

(54:36):
South Park compilation record with Puffy Puffy, Mason Kim shut Up.
We covered um will They Die for You? And that's
out there somewhere, So it's us doing all the music
with them on it. So how did you get the
relationship with Hu Chang? I don't even know how that
comes about. Please explain that story. Well, let's know, we
gotta played dog. Your stories are legendary. Hurry brod if

(54:57):
you're in. My point is, I didn't know the story
the beat right now, and I know I know, I
know the history. There's I heard awards today. I think
I'm going. Yeah, I think we're going anyways, Um I'll
go late. So how did this come to? I've always
fucking loved Wu Tang. I studied Wu Tang the lyrics
to fucking music. I'm a fanatic, right, start with that.

(55:20):
So we did a tour, was a three week tour
with olymp Biscuit, Red and Meth and then Are We
were the first band, then Red and Meth and Olympis Skit.
I think it was like I think and uh, I
met Meth and Read in a really cool way. They
were super nice, Like Meth especially was just like I mean,
I'm friends with both guys until today we call each other.

(55:44):
But Meth was like super nice to the band. He
gave us his dressing room because we had lousy they'd
give us bathrooms for dressing rooms, and and we didn't
have money for for hotels at the time, so we
were like in our bus and the bathroom of the venue.
It was rough. And one time he saw me like
kind of upset in the hallway waiting to use the bathroom,

(56:06):
and he came through He's like, where's your dressing room?
Like this is my fucking dressing room and our names
up there in a paper, like you know, on some paper,
and he goes, fuck that, and he grabs that, and
he grabs my hand, takes me into these two rooms,
says Meth and Red takes his meth one out, puts
it under Red and goes, this is your room. Now,
put system there and gave us his fucking dressing room, bro.

(56:26):
And after that he would they gave us a good
dressing juice. And then so anyways, hold on that method
that brown folks recognize a real when you see that's
my guy, bro. So anyways needs to say we became
a really good friends. Look because they're not going away
right now. I like that. That's a big story. And

(56:50):
then so after that, I gave him a bunch of
gear and they were wearing the hand and they were
on stage wearing all systems. Ship was like sucking the
coolest thing to see Meth and Red ware and system
and then um, so we're done with the tour. A
couple of months past, Matt had a show at the
House of Blues in l A And I went to
see him, and I was upstairs in the dressing room

(57:10):
area and I see Rizza I'm like, funk there he is, right,
and that's the fun. The Resurrectors Bobby Digital. So I
go up there and I introduced myself and by the way,
we had covered so we had covered. There was an
album called that still exists, loud Rocks. It was a
Loud Records compilation record where metal bands did hip hop
tracks off of Loud Records records. And we did Shame

(57:33):
and you know, we had done Shame the wood Tang
tracks Shame from the first record, and but it was all,
you know, it was just a band that kind of
was awkward about saying the N word so many times.
We're not your typical you know people that would say
that and that I don't want to offend anybody. We
know what that means. That means homies, shame on a homie.

(57:53):
But I didn't want to offend anybody. So when I
see Rizz, I go yo right away, asked and went
to business mode. I go, man, I'd love for one
of you to be on the record for us, so
we don't offend the older gods, you know, and because
we don't mean to do any of that, you know,
and like it was a better time when you can
kind of be artistic now canceled. Anyways, it's so true

(58:13):
because you could have done it. You're right that it's
just him of the down could have done it and
got the past right. Yeah, we would have probably, but still,
you know, because we're I meaning there's a possible way.
But so he was like, man, balls, he said, balls
is still And then he goes, I just remember a
little moments, you know, and he goes, uh, let me

(58:34):
have your number and I'll call you. And I go, okay,
he's never gonna call me, bro dude. Two weeks later
he hits me up. He's at Track Records. They're making
the w record. He goes, come through, I got your
track up. Fun So I went by myself, you know,
some weed, and now I'm hanging with the Wu Tang
Broup inspected that ands like, let's go, let's go do
the track. So he goes in our track is going. Man,
He's like, what do you want me to do? I'm like, funk,

(58:55):
I gotta produce the fucking bob you know, the reservy'all
want to do this like, so I said, take out
the second verse and go like brand new verse on
there he goes, give me twenty minutes, came back with
that when you listen to you, it's my favorite thing
We've ever done, bro, cover we've ever done. And he
comes out with this crazy verse bought like twenty white
boys in the back of a pickup. Crazy words, right,
and then um, So that's when we became friends. Man.

(59:18):
That was it. And then a year later we realized
we were both single at the time, and we realized
we lived close to each other in the valley. So
he came through, saw my pad, I saw my guitars.
He goes, man, I always wanted to play guitar, and
I'll teach you, bro. So I started showing him how
to play a guitari. And he saw my studio and
I had like the nine O nine and the three thousand,

(59:39):
but I know how to use it, and he goes,
I got you on this. So we kind of went
at it with each other. We studied each other. I
taught him about to play some guitar, like some chords
and stuff, and then he taught me how to use
the nine O nine and three thousand. He goes on tour,
I go on tour, we come back. I have fifty
beats on mine he's got three tracks he's written on
the guitar. So that was like a close thing we
just got and then we started to do a record together.

(01:00:01):
He's like, I want you to produce it. So with
those fifty beats, I produced a record called The Chosen.
We never dropped it, but it will soon. We have.
I still have it. Six ship on there like I
done again. The hair starts to pare a Chosen first
songs called Deuces twenty two songs, and then we bonded
on something else for him is also a big day

(01:00:22):
and and the rest of history. Bro, we just worked together,
hang out together. His kids my ring boy. When I
got married, his kid was my ringboy. Yeah, and we're
still friends. We still see each other every other and
that's great. The life that you got to experience, travel
and as you did, that was just some of the
down Who was the one that you went before? I
felt like that was it? That was it was that
It probably the like was a lifetime thing. You know,

(01:00:44):
we became friends for life. You know, it wasn't just
for like a project. It was the dudes a real dude.
And then and then I see you at the l
A Homies cannabis connoissewers and now l A fucking soccer
fans so boarding the local l A profession. Well, the
funniest thing is all true, all truth people. Let me

(01:01:05):
tell you how fucking stupid I let me tell everybody
out there with a big fat idiot Joe Lopezi, I
like it when he owns it himself, that this fucking
bad boom. Let me let me tell you what I
did do sept It will play with the drugs at
the soccer game. And he goes, are you fucking idiot?

(01:01:25):
Did you know I was with him? It was my
fucking gig that got him the gig there? How about
learned your history and put your fucking glasses on next
time you're looking at the post, Joe and I, well,
I interpreted that my back for telling your story. That's
how I interpret it. I interpreted you saying this back
to me. I was all met none. That's how I

(01:01:46):
felt about myself that being said, how did you get
the gig for working with the l It's not a gig,
but I'm a fan, so last you can't still go
and to start playing the drums? And I felt the
game last season, right, Dame by to me over because
we just played the Bank of California the stadium, so
they invited me to come watch them play. Uh. I
went to the last game last season and the ship

(01:02:09):
was live, Bro, Like it's it's the funniest thing you're
ever gonna go witness, Bro, no joke, there is no
l a team that has fans like that. When you go,
you're gonna experience something crazy. They have the whole north
side of the field. I mean, not to feel the
crowd is that their fans called the three to five
two is big shout out to them. They are, yeah,
they're and it's because there's three thousand, two and or

(01:02:29):
fifty two of them and they're badass. And they got
the flags and they got the smoke bombs with the
paint face. They're just all over. Its actual soccer hul
against that ship. And so when you see that going
off during the whole game, you're involved more. And uh,
they gave me great seats, bro, and I hung out
with some cool folks, um and so. But but but
that was it for the season, So it kind of

(01:02:50):
got like I couldn't wait for the you know, the
next one. But it was over. So when this season
just started. I went to the first I've been in
every game now and are you sitting there with the
there No, I'm saying there in my section. But so
this last night on Sunday, it was be real? Was there? Exhibit?
Was there? Owen Wilson, A bunch of skaters, p rod
fucking day one song, so many amazing people were there

(01:03:14):
and they came and grabbed me exhibit and being goal.
You guys want to be with the fans for a second,
I'm like, fun, yeah, because it's the homies from l A,
you know, and we're friends. We all have cannabis companies,
you know, totally. That's when when I see that we
are really good friends. And so we just two security
guards cameraman. We walked up there. All of a sudden,
we're at the drum squad area and they give us

(01:03:35):
the funds we start. But we got in there and
they scored a goal right when we started, while we're
the fans. They scored the third goal. Three one we win. Um,
how unbelievable is that for that to have that vibe
be playing with that, That's what I'm saying. It was
such a dope god shot because you can't plan that.
There was no possible we could have planned that got shot.

(01:03:56):
If can't do it again, it might not be as
good that was. Never get that, but we probably will,
but beause it felt so good to be up there
with the drummers just kind of doing the tracks. So
they got like O G tracks for the l A
f C. Which were they were pounding to. They you
need to experience a game, guys, Yeah, you need to.
The next one's on Easter apri I will be in.

(01:04:21):
That's wrong, Yeah, I'm in. That's And guess what I
didn't think. My son just made the Paidora Soccer Club.
So my son is on a travel team now and
he's loving soccer and I've never taken him to a
game yet. This will make him hooked. Like that's it.
If I'm not mistaken. I think my boys the announcer
for the game's rogo the announcer for that. No, we
don't hear. Oh yeah, well when you watch the game,

(01:04:42):
I believe my other boy that lives in Kdo is
the announcer for that soccer There was just it's just
like the coolest anyone that comes and always wants to
keep coming because just just this energy that exists there.
I've been to Laker games, but the King's games, no
knock on them, but nothing's like this galaxy. Nothing like that,
this energy and the fullness they the place was full,

(01:05:03):
the beck of California. Every game is full, sold out.
Because you think about it, l A is a culture
you know, swap you know, it's a culture soup. So
b biggest melt and yeah, culture soup to new one
that he did show, he didn't name that. I'm like
the culture soup. I like that. That's the show there,

(01:05:23):
it is culture sup. All right, let's host it together.
We got a new show coming up. Let's go culture Soup.
So I think, by the way, we didn't tell them yet. Yeah,
well actually let's let's we'll get all that assets before
we go. Yeah, let's culture soup dot com go buy
it now please, okay? Um and the Instagram? So for real,

(01:05:46):
what was I saying? We're starting to l A. And
what's the biggest sport in the world. It's it's soccer football,
which is it's food. It's football and so even sound
Mexican when you do it exactly, Yea, if you have
you move like us, you're you know, you're in l A.

(01:06:08):
Your Mexican, I'm Puerto Rican. I'm Mexican a bro shabo
mean come on? Yeah? So yeah, And it's also a
game you can play just by having a ball. You
don't need a court, you don't need I you don't
need any you know, skates. You just get a ball around.

(01:06:28):
That's what it is. So it's the one you could
do easily, the one that people are, you know, and
it's it's just getting bigger and bigger as I look
at the l A f C and think of what
they've been doing in Los Angeles, let alone in soccer,
but the movement soccer has been making even movie wise
on Netflix, Big girl movies, there's tons of like Soccer Ship.

(01:06:50):
There's the show on Apple. What's the show called bro?
The Soccer Show Apple? Or is it on Top? I
think it's a girl one. What's a dude name? What?
Ted Lasso? That's my favorite? Okay, how come you didn't
know the name of the show because I didn't know
what you're talking? I don't know. I'm an idiot. What
do you want to stay away? The first the first
game I went to last season? What's his name? Last Nick?

(01:07:13):
But his real actor name is Nick. I don't think
it's Nick. I think he's the guy for Saturday Night Live. Yeah,
he's so hilarious. Funny story. So we hang out in
the box and I tell him we were on SNL
and he tells me, of course you were. I remember
the day because I was the first day that I
was on this. His first show in SNL was the
one we played at with Johnny Knoxelle crazy right, So

(01:07:35):
it was like we bonded there. And not only that,
Ted last I forget his last something last name. I forget.
He's a great actor. You know exactly who he is, folks.
And if those who haven't seen it yet, I was
on it before it won all the awards, but last
year won all the awards for all the see and
I've been watching it because it's thirty minutes of pure comedy.

(01:07:56):
It's that English comedy too. You gotta be quick with though,
because they're hitting with you with so many singers. I've
gotta watch it twice because like sometimes you do, I'm like,
I'm just oh, dude, I took When we drove to Vegas,
I I got him on, I got him and uh,
I got Chris Fradkino, I got Solar. I think everybody
was in my car and we're watching him my car.
You guys, you gotta watch this show. We're driving a

(01:08:17):
fucking Vegas to go do m J Biscon and I
made everybody watch it. And then on the way back
we watched it too, you know, me on the car,
just like, okay, you guys watching watching the last because
you can watch it. Stop it. You don't have to.
Like it's not like when you're on the edge of
your seat. You gotta you know. It's just one of
those not traumatic. But it's funny, good stuff and cool
and sexy and funny and like to take you on.
The sexy girl the owner. She's not sexy. That lady

(01:08:42):
is very sexy. She's sexy and he brings her the
cookies in the morning. You know what I mean. It's
good but funny. It's a good cookie Ted nashal Bridge
of those cookies and a little crumpy. I'm sexy. I
look at it. Go ahead, gets sexy. Not now you're
with me? What you see? Now? You see what I see?

(01:09:03):
There you go. It's fun it's funny to take it
down that route. Well, you know something we like to DoLS.
We'd like to do the high five with our guests
that come up here. The founder of the creator twenty
two d it's a cannabis brand, of course, the musician
system of the down at the group travel. How old
be the first time you smoke cannabis? And where'd you
get it? From? Eighteen? I was at the Guns and
Rules of show with Metallica and they were smoking it,

(01:09:26):
and I said, pass it as a joke. They passed it.
I smoked it wo as a joke, Yeah, because I
hadn't smoked yet, and all my friends were around me, going,
all they're smoking, we don't like watch I'm past that ship.
And then they did so Headed. All right, man, I'm
gonna have to take this now, we're als. I'm gonna pussy.
So I smoked it and Metallica and Guns Roses they
played the Rose Bowl. Wow. Yeah, with motor Head opening

(01:09:48):
for that. That's such a big fucking I mean, you know,
back and then too. I mean, you know I was
more of a Guns and Roses fan at that time.
Back well for me, whatever it was, you know, I mean,
but that was huge. Those are all those bands. I meant.
It's funny how we were randomly talking about rock musically,
like you noticed, like I'm a previous podcast, we just
random coming back, bro. No, we we've really been talking

(01:10:10):
about some random rocks, Like we've mentioned the Iron Maidens
and the Twist and Sisters. We've been mentioning these groups recently.
Of art, she could. We grew up listening to Cinderella. Yeah,
I was gonna say, what did I say? I said,
uh uh, Tina, I mean not Tina. What did I say?
They're the Sydney Layney Law. It's not a metal No,
I don't, but she had a metal look, a punk

(01:10:31):
rock rush crossed over. How we're all talking about in
the videos the rest dude, I just mentioned the camel
clutch earlier to day. If you know Captain Loo, you
know the camel clutch. You know who just died was
raised a ramon just talking. That's what wrestling was softing
back there. I loved it back at me too. That

(01:10:53):
was the Iron Sheet and the Iron Sheet the most
racist suns. That's Americans. Yeah, crazy Jimmy super flic bro
yeats on him now, Yeah, he's he's on TikTok. You
can do his voice. You know what's funny though literally

(01:11:14):
random side up. Before we get the question number two.
I literally was turned on wrestling recently, going, how come
nobody grabbed my attention like that? To the hope to
the gotta being politically correct now or else they get canceled.
They can't have cool ship like that? Yeah, come on, yeah, yeah,
it's so crazy that you're probably today's world roddy roddy pipe.
Everyone's got to be the same dye. Everyone has to

(01:11:36):
be the same and agree with everything that each other says,
or else you're sucked up. My name is Cowboy Bill,
and I just like to go Tom and I'm Cowboy John,
and I'm cowboy Ed and I'm cow Everyone's the same.
They're all something l Yeah, whatever, there's problems. Question number
two of the high five, what is your favorite way
to use cannabis? Joints? Kind twenty two red twenty two red.
Of course that's what I sell, and that's what I smoke.
I smoked it, then I sell it. So yes, but

(01:11:57):
there's some brands out like you smoke, I first smoke,
then who I should test it first? I like to
hear that. I like the Insane brand. They're dope yea
jumple boys are when it comes to concentrates. I love
Marcus from his Ship's amazing that Nature's lab Cally Blaze
is dope. Um, I wonder, but it's pretty cool, you know. Yeah,

(01:12:20):
there's a lot of real quick ready for this originals.
I want to just give you props because most motherfucker's
that come up here that have a brand don't do
what you just in every world, bro, And I agree
with that, saying like it, I'm not afraid to talk
about another content of the podcast. I'm not afraid to
talk about another I give it to everybody matter ghost
listen to anything. I'm not here off the table. I'm here,

(01:12:40):
you know. And that's how we look at it too.
And I give people I like to thank you because
most cats don't. That's what we're Honestly. I don't think
cost cats don't know, which is even again why you
should jump on. They do know, they're probably trying to
keep it quiet, you know. Yeah, yeah, they know a
few of them, but they don't really know. Like like you,
you label them off because you're you're associated with them,
and they're also connoisseurs in the space. And like I said,

(01:13:03):
the cats that go around and tour the world that
have smoked all the bammer to the to the highest
quality in the world. You know, you have to know
that gas big shout out to the strain Hunters from Amsterdam.
Those guys were the original fucking branders of weed. The
Greenhouse cath Yeah, the stranger Arian rousskan YOI Helms. Those
guys are fucking the best because they came up first day.

(01:13:26):
Are the ones that invented the white Widow. They did
the super Silver Hayze super lemon Dale did that and
they were documenting. They were documented too. Yeah. I don't
know if festival everybody. Those guys made me I say,
we need to get him on our show. I just

(01:13:47):
say that because he's been like he literally got so
many of the early school hip hop and documentary stuff
like no one't shoot it but question of her three
of the high five craziest place. This is gonna be
great for you because I'm so interested that you ever
use cannabis, because you traveled all around the world that
you already said so many random things that make me go, fuck,

(01:14:10):
what is even crazy to you to say this is
probably the craziest place. Knowing that crazy is going to
jail knowing that crazy is being incarcerated for who knows
how long prison, let alone jail. So what is that
to me? Crazy for you or and I know you're
gonna look at it, Well, that wasn't crazy. We just
smoke because that's what we did. Well, I told you already,
like we I found weed in Japan. We found wed

(01:14:32):
in Greece, where you couldn't just anywhere. We didn't have it.
We found it. It was yeah, we didn't really anywhere
that stood out. Everybody feel like almost could was the craziest, bro,
because they made us feel awkward if we ever even
the club people like you know, usually asked the roadies
and people that are from security security anyone, you know,

(01:14:53):
just ask people that are part of the the club, yeah,
club venue whatever. No, everybody was like, I don't even
ask me, bro, Yeah, I ain't even looking at you now.
You just went down and rank yeah your status. And
it's funny because I was. I was head of security
before I got into radio, right, so I used to
deal with all the bands and for different chips. I

(01:15:16):
got some start. Sugar Hill Gangs said question number four,
the High five, What is your go to munchie after
you get high. So I'm trying to keep my physique
going nowadays. But I love just like crackers and salty
chips and hips like yeah, you know, yeah, like cheese
cracks that we pulled out, some ruffles, potato chips. Just

(01:15:37):
I like the lemon fucking lace those are yeah right,
I do love those. You know. He likes it with
hummus that top of deal with hummas. He's got to
keep everything right over there. Forget that I do all

(01:15:59):
day from really stay with about that garlic. I gotta
try the limment. Probably would be good saying brand that
ship another another favor lazy well, you know, and it
even goes to show them once again the culturals have,
like you know, I have such in love for that food.

(01:16:21):
I love that food. Literally to day we're eating person
food today. I went to tom for up in Orange County, Mamas,
like four or five. You know that each dialect, like
each each section of our means, Like there's the person
ar means, the Lebanese ar means, the Armanion ar meanings.
They all cook the same thing differently. Yeah, they got
different flavors in it, so it's a variety. It's really cool.

(01:16:43):
Sometimes you're in the mood for this and that and
just but they're all good. Oh good. Question number five
of the High five with Chabo, the founder of twenty
two Red. Go check out that cannabis brand car your
dispensaries in California, Arizona and Nevada, Vegas. Go to Nevada.
You better try that twenty two red. You and a
Z you better ask him. Of course you're in killer Kelly,

(01:17:05):
you know all about it. And go ahead and download
system of the downs. He can collect some more money.
Question number five, If you could smoke cannabis with anyone
dead or alive, who would it be? And why? Um?
Tom Petty? Because I had the opportunity and sucked up. Um.
We were recording at Rick's house, one of the records
and Rick Reuben Rick Rubin's house, and I left early.

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I don't know why. And then Darren hits me up
a couple hours later saying, dude, Tom Petty rolled through
and we smoked a joint together. The dude passes away,
and I mean that was like fuck man, because Tom Petty, dude.
I went to that last show that he did out
the private one for the Foundation position that was his
last show he did. It was an intimate event. How ironic?
I still got my ticket? But how badass was the

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Um hey that's three times today? Hey? Because Tom Petty
is that guy, right, And it's so funny to think
I saw him at Red Rock, Red Rock Vegas. No, no,
the And where's Red Rocks? Not the not the hotel,
but the actual Red Rocks. And it's like, is it
in New Mexico Arizona? I don't know anybody know? Okay either,
it's it's actual like stone and ship and uh, bro,

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you know why we all get the chills just because
Joe Blew. There you go. That's enough to make up
my leg right now? Um no, but that was an
ultimate bro. He was like what an artist? What a bands? Yeah?
They played it like the record bro, Like it was like,
give you something. I'm gonna give you something right now.

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Go to the back and grab that picture for me.
Isn't this is for le right here? Right here? It's
on the back. Yeah, yeah, you know what you wanted, Chris.
You don't know what. I'm gonna give you something because
you said that, and it's a it's an important figure
to me. Now if you open it up and there's
something minute I want, you know what I mean, at

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least like have it. But I'm gonna give you I'm
not worthy. I don't want to. Oh you're worthy. Yeah,
you know what trouble. It's funny that like this is
a great personal it's a person each other when I'm
kicking rock this long with nobody. Yeah yeah, and it
went well and it's healthy and it's great. It feels good. Man.
I like you, like I consider like I think we're

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gonna be friends, you know what I mean. Like, yeah,
well that's what I'm saying too, because we're the same ages.
We did the same things around the stay if we
did the rock and did his thing, and like we
all did the same things around the same times, and
you gotta stay ground and that's the thing. And you
guys appreciate We appreciate you because you could be a
big time rock star, which you are. But like, I

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don't try to think of me that way though, But
I'm just saying, as you can and you know, and
then because you'd be a pick for somebody. So look
at Blue's gonna give to you. Oh shit, Oh man, man,
I knew something was up with you. Yeah, that's so
that's just thank you so much and still more. I
appreciate that. Yeah, you know what I mean, real, that's
good show the Blue described that right there. It's like

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a it's a it's a very nice I mean like
shadow boss. Yeah, it's real frame and it's very Let
me tell you this, that this, and it's some other products,
like they want to give this to me, Bro, dog
go ahead, that's for you. Yeah yeah, yeah, I'm serious. Yeah,
thank you, Bro. That's that's it right there, Tom Tom
Petty you know, and I'll tell you it's not cheap.

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The craziest child. This is the last thing blues Dad
gaming before he passed away. Yeah, man, really yeah, true story.
Can you just mentioned this? You're gonna make me cry
right now. I'm dead serious so much, but I'm like
dead as much more touched. I'm gonna thank you a
little bit. I can't believe you did that. I can't either.
Is he gonna listen? Yeah, I'm not taking it until

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he has to think about it a little No. No,
here's the thing, Bro. I'll put it in a good
spot and then if you never want it back, it's
it'll be. I'm gonna hold it if all I ask
is this, if I'm gonna open it up, you open
if you ever open it up and there's something inside
of it other than you want to check, No, no,
I don't just in case I touched you, brody, if
you ever open it up and there's something in there

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other than just the back of the print, and then
then just you know, I mean, share would appreciate this life.
It might be where it's going, where it's where in
my office studio? No way, why not, bro this is
where that's why. So do you have to make room quarter,
I'll take something down. I'll put it up. That's dope
because it's pack right now. Yeah, but I'll take something
down for you know. It's funny though one of the

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system play a plaque like this because like folks who
don't know it's it's a it's a real one. Like
I said, it's not like some some you know, that's it.
That's a very quality. It's a quality you painting. It's
a paintings got touched. It's a painting too, it's actual paint.
Joe Blue shovel and I just got yes tavel. Is

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there anything that you want to mention and break down
before we let you go and take anything else from
Blue that I like that shirt, Hold hold on, he's
taking it off. Ye, it was thank you I had.
I want to tell you this was a really cool.
I'll be back, yeah please do you know, bring the

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homies though. This is our platform, Bring the crow, bring
everybody want, We'll talk, We'll talk, people'll do something. Whatever
you want to down. Use this platform to promote anything
you want. And I did. Okay, North Kingsley. The new project,
the trap rock shit that I'm doing. Um, we got
a record, we got play record. Yeah, I dropped six songs.
But the style is kind of evolving. It's a new

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project with new vibes. So I started just dropping music
during the pandemic. Um it was a kind of like
a heavy hip hop ship and UM now it's turning
heavier with like less hip hop, more screaming. You know,
it's just evolving, you know, And I love um involving
the audience with the evolution of the band. So you're
seeing where it started and where it's owing and where

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it's gonna be. You still don't know, So we keep
constantly growing and doing different ship and you know, most
learning North Kingsley, North Kingsley Yeah in Hollywood dope, Yeah,
and then um anything else? What else we forget? Man,
you want to plug come on twenty two. Red will
be in your any dispensary near you very soon. Where

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it's dizzy now all this disease. Um. Got a lot
of new strains coming out genetics. I've been doing hunting
uh in both in all three states. So we got
new ship coming out in all three states. Very excited,
a lot of good collab strains. Got the Skittles and Sherbone,
that's yeah, one of my favorites that they just those

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two females together worked really well. So he's a good guy, dude,
I go away. I don't know him well, but every
time I've met him is giving me respects. So I
appreciate that. So I just smoked the hat we all know. Yeah,
So my point, before he ever had a cannabis brand
and all that ship. You know what I'm saying, we

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used to hit the clubs in San Francisco and before
you know it, and I didn't even realize it until
he came down. And when he came to the show
and he goes, I'm like, hey, what about I remember you?
And He's like, I'm like, you're Sharpinsky, Mario. I didn't
even know that Mario was Serpinsky cool, you know what
I'm saying. That's what you know. It's like, that's real.

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I'm like, they created some great strains. He did the
Gelatto right, did Gelto original Little Yeah, he's the man. Well, guys,
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