June 27, 2023 • 39 mins
Film makers Ravit Markus and Dan Katzir won the Audience Award at the 2023 Slamdance Film Festival also won the Mayor's Award at the Oakland International Film Festival and the Stony Award from Celeb Stoner for best pot documentary. It is a 10-year-follow-up on a group of Oakland underdogs who are the reason for the huge change we see today in cannabis policy, and its social justice ramifications. It explores the power of the activist, no matter the cause. Be sure to visit their website at www.americanpotstory.com to witness their genius 1st hand. Also follow them on IG @americanpotstory
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com and today on the show. You guys, I got
a chance to meet the lovely lady on four twenty
if I'm not mistaken out at Rock Seeds. But today
on the podcast, we have the interesting duo. Who are
the masterminds behind the most important documentary about the legalization
of cannabis in the last decade. Folks. They our husband
and wife and our award winning filmmakers. We have Ravit
(01:15):
Marcus Rights. Is that correct? And I say that right yes?
And Dan Katzir Okay, there we go. Who's the latest documentary?
Features had its world premiere and won the Audience Award
at the twenty twenty three slam Dance Film Festival titled
American Pot Story Oaksterdam Now. They also won the Mayor's
(01:36):
Award at the Oakland's International Film Festival and the Stony
Award from Celebstoner for the Best pot Documentary. It is
a ten year follow up on a group of Oakland
underdogs who are the reason for the huge change we
see today in cannabis policy. It is social justice ramifications.
(01:57):
It explores the power of the activists, no matter the cause.
They were recently awarded the Loreene Arbist Disability Awareness Grant
from New York Women in Film and TV for their
next documentary, Nina, which is currently in post. It follows
Israel's champion of wheelchair badminton, Nina Goradensky possibly I hope
(02:18):
I said that Gordetski and her journey to the Tokyo Paralympics.
It is scheduled to premiere in early twenty twenty four.
Make sure you guys check out their personal website at
Newlovefilms dot com. And of course, the movie that we're
going to be talking about here today, you could check
out that website americanpotstory dot com to witness their genius firsthand.
(02:40):
Also follow them on Instagram at American pot Story to
learn more about this film. Without further ado, you guys
please give it up for Rabinson Dan in the building.
Thank you guys for coming on the show. You know,
I got to give a nice intro. I met your
wife on four twenty, which was very nice. But ten
years in the making and it's already winning awards and
(03:01):
it's about cannabis. How did you guys partner up with
Oaksterdam to do it? Was it a partnership first with Oaksterdam?
Was it something else that you guys started filming and
then got the partnership with Oaksterdam. Tell me the story
of how this all came about.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
It's not a partnership, it's.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
We fell in love with what they do and we've
just decided to follow them. We are independent filmmakers, and
we started filming them because we heard it's going to
be legalized in twenty ten, and we said.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
This is going to be a revolution. We've got to
film the revolution.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
And we just followed them for a decade and we
didn't think it's going to be so long. We finished
the film after they lost Prop nineteen and the film
was just it was such a downer. It didn't go anywhere.
So we kind of were down too for a while.
And then it sounded in twenty twelve that like they
were picking up the pieces and trying again, so we said,
(03:58):
let's keep going. And every year it was like, oh,
this year it's going to happen. No, this year's going
to happen this And by twenty sixteen, when actually they
legalized in California, we were so invested by then in
Dale Sky Jones' personal journey that we were like, Okay,
we want to stick a little bit more. See how
she's trying to actually bring the change to the federal level,
(04:20):
and we followed her all the way to when she
gave it a testimony.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
At the House and Capitol.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
Hill, and that we felt, okay, that's a good time
to stop and start sharing the film with the world.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Wow, so walk us through. Then it started. It's a
ten year journey. You guys looked at this California green rush,
so to speak, and said, oh, and then how did
and why did you pick Oaksterdam?
Speaker 5 (04:48):
So what happened was in twenty ten, Oaksterdam, can you
hear me?
Speaker 2 (04:54):
I can hear you? Connor? Can you fix this Mike
a little better? Please?
Speaker 5 (04:56):
Though?
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Go ahead?
Speaker 5 (04:57):
In twenty ten, everybody's in Fox you name it. All
the big networks were kind of reporting about Prop nineteen,
which was the first campaign in I think forty or
fifty years to try to legalize marijuana that made it
to the ballot. But everybody was making fun of them
because everybody treated them as a group of stoners in
(05:18):
California want to legalize it, and it seemed like a
joke because nobody thought it even had a chance. But
some are I heard them and I thought, wow, I
think these guys are serious and then we went and
met them, and it felt different. It felt different than
all the other people I've ever seen in my life
really trying to legalize. I felt, this is a group
of hardcore activists that have the passion, but also at
(05:41):
the same time, they had enough support, you know, both
within the movement and outside of the movement to create
some noise. So I was like, let's go. And unlike
the media of the other medias that were kind of
making fun of them, I treated this is the serious thing.
And it's hard to believe, you know, a little over
ten years later that now nobody is joke making fun
(06:02):
any more.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
It's not a joke.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
Yeah, it's for real. At the time, people thought a
group of stoners, you know, smoke too much and they
think they can actually legalize. But it's amazing, it's less.
It's a little over ten years and so much change
has happened.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
I mean, and as you watch, you're so right. You
guys literally said let's go film the revolution exactly and
you have ten yured how long is the movie?
Speaker 3 (06:25):
An hour and a half.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
When we started, everybody in the movement that we interviewed said, oh,
they're going to roll back all the achievement that we had.
They're going to actually make us look so bad that
the show that the American people have no interest in legalizing.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
That's going to roll back.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
All our achievements of the last forty years of fighting
for legalization. And our friends were basically making fun of
us for wasting time on even filming those hopeless idealists.
And they really showed that the American public was much
readier than anybody realized to this change.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Where are you guys from? Where do you guys originate from?
Speaker 3 (07:03):
We're from Israel, From Israel.
Speaker 5 (07:06):
I think that's why they let us film, because I
think when I was filming there, it seemed like they
were not really trusting anybody with cameras because you know,
back in the day, it feels like ages ago, but
it was, you know, twenty ten. You didn't know if
somebody is filming you talking about marijuana if you're from
the DA, FBI, CIA. So they didn't trust anybody. But
(07:29):
when Richard, who was leading that campaign, he talked to me,
I said, how come you trust me? He said, with
your accent.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
You ain't working for the day in this country. That
played for your benefit there, right exactly? I can see
that being the case.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
But I also think that there's something with the foreign
I that in a way we could see something that
the other basically people here don't see what other people
look like a joke. We could see that this was
a serious effort and worthy of times. I think sometimes
when you have this outsider look, you see things differently,
(08:07):
and you might spot things that people from the inside
won't recognize, like an important historical movement in them happening.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
I mean you would hope and think by now too,
that somebody would have already had something right and put
something out south that's been following things and journeys like
this for that long. But obviously nobody put the time
in the effort like you guys did. I can just
see you guys going further and further with this, and
it getting bigger and bigger, and hopefully getting bought by
a big company, going, hey man, we want your footage,
and we want to add some theatrics to this and
(08:35):
make this a full on motion picture. Is that the
dream is that the goal of the dreams, right? I mean,
I'm thinking going as an independent filmmakers, your goal would
be I did this, but please buy my idea buy
my footage and let's rock and roll.
Speaker 5 (08:52):
Look, it's more than buying the idea. It's more about
trying to bring this story to the masses.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Because I mean there's that too of why you did
You did it for the passion everything. I get that,
and I agree with it. Obviously, it's been a ten
year passion project because it didn't pay you guys now
before it was done, you know, I mean, it's still like, Okay,
now we have all this time and effort that we
put into it, it'd be nice.
Speaker 5 (09:12):
It would be nice.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
I'm just second if I was part of the team,
you know. Yeah, And not only that, it's it's a
a wonderful thing that you did, and it's great that
you had the eye to see this, to have the vision,
you know what I mean. From Israel going oh, well, cannabis,
we're doing research over here. Ten years ago they're doing
research in Israel. You kind of have a logist of
a little bit about what's going on in cannabis because Israel,
(09:35):
in my opinion, has been ahead of the game in
cannabis for the last twenty years in my opinion, right,
So for those who don't know that, you should realize
what Israel's been doing and studying and focusing on, but
then to come here and go, oh shit, they're probably
going to be legalizing it in California.
Speaker 5 (09:50):
So right, I thought, if anyway, you know, what happened
in California FETs to America, and what happened in America
fits the world. So I thought, if anywhere would happen,
you know, if any stay legalized, it's gonna start in California.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
And that's just so funny. We're gonna pick your brains
more about this, you guys. Americanpotstory dot com is the websites.
We're gonna find out where you can see this at,
where you can view it at, and maybe we'll have
a little party here at the Cannabis Talk one oh
one campus. We'll be right back after this break.
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the amazing filmmakers and producers Dan and Robis husband and wife,
(10:55):
and Ravison. I remember talking to you on four twenty
and Ali was just so pumped up on it. I'm
so pumped up on it. You guys have ten years
of footage. You guys have been shooting this is there
like the extended version, because an hour and a half
just doesn't seem like enough.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
So true.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Yeah, you know what I mean. Thank you, Connor. It's
like you. I was expecting to hear four and a
half hours, you know what I mean, and only that
I want to see four and a half. I want
to take a break. I wanted to be like the
whatever big long movie that Shawshank Redemption or something crazy
long are You're the Godfather.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
I love hearing this because what took us a very
long time was exactly Distilling ten years into just an
hour and a half was definitely not easy. It was
finding the right balance between the personal stories of the
people who are at the forefront of this fight and
the blood, sweat and tears that they put into it,
and the price they paid for their efforts.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
And there's definitely a price.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
As you know, the government can retaliate against you when
you try too hard to affect change. So this definitely
was the hardest part, just distilling it into an hour
and a half. But I think what we're going to do,
and I love what you're thinking. We'd definitely have on
our website with time kind of the scenes that were
left on the cutting room floors floor, because I think
(12:15):
for the outsiders, for people who know nothing about the movement,
it was very important for us to make a film
that they will want to see because we don't want
to preach to the choir. We want to make sure
people who need to understand that their perception of the plant,
their perception of the policy was wrong, or that the
policy is wrong itself.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
We need them to see this movie.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
So we made a movie that you can show in churches,
and we have shown it in churches. We have made
a movie that can be anywhere where it's good for
people to have a discussion and reevaluate if the policy we.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Have on a federal level is right. So for that was.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
Important to make it compact as possible. But we're right,
we should have a longer version, maybe for the fan,
something that has a lot of wonderful stuff that we
just couldn't fit into the hour and a half.
Speaker 5 (13:05):
I think in one hundred years when people will want
to learn about this crazy era, I think our movie
will help people of the future be able to understand.
I mean, think about it. Thirty I don't know twenty
thirty forty percent of the people smoked marijuana or smoked marijuana,
and for one hundred years they were all silent. They
didn't bug the government. They try to be underground. When
(13:29):
you think about alcohol prohibition, what would have a very
few short period and the people just said no. And
you know alcohol is popular, but so is marijuana. And
yet the people, all the stoners, did not stand up
and try to change the law for one hundred years.
It's kind of crazy.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
So is this available on the website or how can
people watch this?
Speaker 4 (13:49):
So for now the best is to follow us, as
you said on at American pot Story on Instagram or
Facebook where you post updates. It's mostly doing what's called
the festival circuit. It's it's been in some the coolest
film festival Slam Dance Dance wearing the shirt h sure,
where we won the audience Award. And now we have
(14:09):
our new Jersey premiere at the Lighthouse International Film Festival,
another very cool film festival on Long Beach Island.
Speaker 5 (14:15):
Also one of the top independent film festival in the US.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
Yeah, so it's really cool that we're going to be there,
and that's going to be on June tenth, three forty
five pm, and we're going to have an awesome after party.
And then please, I hope you're going to be there
at June twenty nine, our big LA premiere as part of.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
The Chinese Man Theater, right, Yes, dude, that's crazy that
you guys got the Chinese Man like they do the big, big,
big movie premiere.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (14:40):
Later there will be a party at Roosevelt, but only
for people who have a ticket for your premiere. It's
also Dances with Films, which is very cool film. The
top independent film festival in LA right now. So we're
starting to build the mythology of this film. So we'll
travel to all the top independent film festivals in the US, the.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
World, and the world, and then after we'll work hopefully
in partnership with you in some release where people can
buy the film online.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
You'll figure out, of course. I mean I can't. I
can't see why Netflix wouldn't pick it up, or you know,
call it Amazon, whatever you want. Paramount should pick it up.
I mean, I think they all should be fighting for it, right,
I mean, especially if it's winning these awards. I've heard
nothing but great things about it. I've not yet to
see it, but you know, the people that we all know,
the similar people that we've met, and everybody in Ali
(15:29):
who's working with us, that works with, you know, hand
in hand with Oaksterdam, has had nothing but great things
to say about this. And of course we love everybody
over that at Oaksterdam. So tell me a little bit
more about this to them. How does it start? Where
does it go? I mean you're not gonna be able
to give everything in detail, but I mean, what can
somebody expect when they see this? Am I gonna cry?
Am I gonna be like? Oh I'm mad? Like you know?
(15:50):
Is it sparking emotions?
Speaker 5 (15:51):
It's a fun movie. It's a fun movie about activism.
It's about marijuana, but it's about any activist, and it's
about how a small group of activists can change, you know,
can make history. And many times, look when we watch
it the news, we get angry. It doesn't matter if
you're left or right. You feel I'm powerless. I have
no power. The corporations have the money. You know, Washington
(16:12):
is so corrupt and everybody there is about the money.
And our film shows, you know what a small group
of people they didn't have that much money, but they
had a lot of passion and they made history and
they rocked first America and then the world, you know,
in the whole world kind of listen. So I think
when people decide they want to change something and they
really want to change it, and they're willing to put
the time and the energy, they can rock the world.
(16:35):
And that's kind of the message. And our movie is
about marijuana, but it's true for anything.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
How did you figure out to follow these people that
made these movements? Like how did that go? Like hmm,
Like that's such a dice roll, Like if you know,
you come in here and you go, oh, which one
of these guys is gonna do something great tonight. Let's
see Connor only has one eye because he scratches right now,
he can't see you know this guy, he's to be
at a bar, beach, barcelara. He's not going to be
(17:02):
doing anything. And then you look at Daniel, He's probably
gonna go to a restaurant tonight and go eat somewhere. Like,
how do you figure how did you guys figure out
these are the crew to follow?
Speaker 3 (17:13):
That's a great question.
Speaker 5 (17:15):
Look, I met them. I saw their passion also when
I went to Oaks to them and to Oakland, and
I was living in LA at the time. You know,
the dispensaries were not really legal or they were semi legal,
and they were kind of more you know something back
alley thing and city. And I came there and it
looked different. It looked like, you know, a little dog.
(17:38):
He Richardly wanted to create a new image from marijuana,
and he did it in the middle of the street.
And he created a whole district called the Oaksterdam District
where they were kind of trying to build a model
of how a regulated marijuana industry would look. And I
was just blown away. I was like, he was, you know,
near the police station and near the federal building. He
(17:58):
was creating all these stores. Just said look, this is
how it can be, you know, it was just testing,
you know, lainforcement and come and arrest me. But this
is how I think it should be in the future.
It's like probably the first time he went to an
Apple store and you saw, Wow, computers are cool, you know.
So I was like, wow, these people are like in
broad daylight, you know, attempting to change a lot just
(18:20):
by giving an example of how the future could look
like if it becomes legit.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
And Dan were you there and had to come back
and go Robbis, so I have a great idea and
she go, what the fuck are you smoking?
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Totally I'm like, what, I admit that. I first when
he said this, I said, who cares?
Speaker 5 (18:40):
Why it is.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
Important to legalize weed?
Speaker 4 (18:43):
And then he had to start researching and throwing a
lot of facts at me and basically talking about how
the policy is hurting communities of color and how it's
feeding people into the prison industrial complex. And then I said, oh,
that is important because I said, well, everybody I know
can get high and there's no problem. And they didn't
(19:04):
realize a lot of people that I don't know end
up in prison for that. And I was like, what,
people are actually going to prison for a week.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
That's impossible.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
So you didn't know this. It's funny that, you know
what it's that is funny that I don't think a
lot of people still realize that. Yeah, a lot of
people have no clue of that, and especially a lot
of white folks. Let's just call it what it is, right,
A lot of white folks, as you're well, you know,
light skinned, have no fucking clue what really goes on
(19:35):
out there for us minorities that I've dealt with, the
oh you're smoking that white guy, O'Connor, go hide, go
play soccer. You guys come over here, salar you're smoking.
We and you're busted. Tell you're busted. But it's like,
you know, it's real, and it's so real that, like
I've been talking to somebody just earlier today on another podcast.
We always hear the numbers, you know, of the minority
(19:56):
that gets busted more than the white folks, and does
does your document we touch on that as well.
Speaker 5 (20:01):
It's like the amount of people that were arrested is
equal to that as if the government arrested Sorry, the
amount of people arrested for weeds is equivalent to the
government arresting people in the twelve smaller states in the US.
It so that if they took the twelve states of
the US arrested all the people there, that's the amount
of people arrested for weed. And people don't realize it
(20:22):
now in the country and in the US or in
the US alone. Now the thing is word from Israel,
weed is not really a crime. You know, they kind
of it's not legal, but it's not illegal. You know,
it's kind of in that grade zone, like you said before.
So for us, you know, as fun as suddenly we realized, wow,
this is people of color, people who have less money
(20:44):
to hire good lawyers. It's just it's it's a and
we touch about we touch on it because the NAACP,
we filmed them change you know, the California and DOAACP
decided to support legalization before everybody else, and tens of
thousands of people called to Austa Alice Hoffman, who was
the head of the NAACP, because they felt, you know,
(21:08):
she's supporting the devil's weights, you know, and she showed
us bags and bags of letters.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
It was mind blowing, really, So you guys caught that
when that happened too. Yeah, dude, this is crazy to
think which you guys were able to grab.
Speaker 5 (21:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Yeah, I mean because it's almost another time of a
dice rollers, Do we go to this meeting? Do we
go to that? Right?
Speaker 5 (21:29):
It was crazy and there was just history being made
every day. There was you know, a lot of pastors
started deciding the changing their mind. A lot of people
were changing their mind in ten years. And it's amazing
how these ten years were like so epic and so historic,
and when we look at it one day, we will say, wow,
this was a natural craziness.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
It's funny, you say, pastors, Dan, I've been wanting to
reach out to the church that my family and I
go to have the pastor because it's a huge church,
right and saddle back out and forest they have nationwide,
but it's a big, big campus. Rick Warren from the
h he has a book that was out or number
one best seller book, The Purpose of Life is what
(22:11):
He was the previous head pastor. He's still the main
guy there, but there's a new head pastor there now,
younger gentlemen. And I actually would love to get Rick
and this pastor on this show to talk about, you know,
because it's a you know, fifty thousand population church. It's
a huge church, and you know, for leading that many people,
I'm sure there's some weed smokers in the building. And
(22:32):
you know what I mean. And it's like, what is
the church's view on that? Because you're right, I think
it has changed, because I'm only imagining the Pope's changed
on gage, you know what I mean. I would hope
the Pope is using some of them, some selva with
some creams on himself. As old as he is, he
needs some of this good THC CBD creams on his body.
Speaker 5 (22:52):
Right, and does nothing in the Bible or the New
Testament that says I mean when you look at prohibition,
you know there's stuff in the Bible against all cahl,
but there's nothing against weeed so and wid was used
back in the day. So they are whatever their opinion is.
It's not based on any scripture. It's just based on opinion.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
And let me ask you this, just because you guys
are from there, I mean I always look at Israel
is what it is, the motherland, right, I mean, this
is where Jesus walked for God's sake, And how is
it viewed there? You're saying it's not illegal, but it's
not legal, and is it where is it talked about?
Is like normal as a kid? Like no, no, no?
Or is it oh your parents, your uncles, your family
(23:35):
all smoked weed, had some wine. I mean, how was that?
What was normal in Israel for you guys.
Speaker 4 (23:43):
I just want to first mention that we filmed the
guy who is the reason why Israel is the forefront
of research, Professor Raphael Michulam. We filmed him, we interviewed
him for the film. It's again one of those things
that fell on the cutting room floor, but he recently
passed away, and interviewing him, he was so cool.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
So that's going to be on the editor's cut and
gonna be on the website.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
We have to watch something exactly exactly. So I just
want to mention that.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
And I think maybe because he was there, it just
wasn't such a big deal growing up. It was definitely
not the weed of the devil. It was just something that, yeah,
it was obvious that some people do it. It's not
a big deal. And I think it's not such a
big deal that there's no obsession. You don't feel like
(24:30):
I have to try it because that's going to be
a rebellion gainst my parents because my parents did it
in the seventies.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Oh, your parents spoke to you too, Dan, your parents too.
Speaker 5 (24:39):
My parents, I don't know, you don't know.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
My parents are cooler.
Speaker 4 (24:43):
My parents said that when I was three, they I
found a stash and I don't know if I inhaled
it took a.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
Bite, but I had a great laugh for three hours.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Oh wow, I was six when I first started smoking,
So yeah, it goes real young for me. So in
Israel it just kind of one of those things me
ask you this. Did you guys ever know anybody to
get arrested for it or get in trouble because of
cannabis growing up? No?
Speaker 5 (25:05):
Not in it though, because it's not something that priests
care about.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (25:10):
I stuff here on the books that maybe I've maybe
gone the books that nobody cares about this.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
You know. Yeah, the cops are starting to get a
little less sum but I don't think it's like they
don't care. I mean, you know, you still can't just
walk around and smoke and there's a cop and hey,
what's up? You know what I mean, They're like, hey, man,
you're come here, here's your ticket for it? In Amsterdam,
you know, right, I've never been, but exactly, I know
what's mean.
Speaker 5 (25:32):
It's illegal in Amsterdam, but nobody's gonna I don't think
anybody will ever arrested for I wanta used to have
like a coffee shop stuff for fifty years.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Yeah, all kinds of good stuff. We're gonna come back.
We're gonna talk more about this movie that's out there, folks.
I can't wait for the premiere coming down in Los Angeles.
We're gonna tell you how you can get those tickets
to become a you know, come to the party afterwards
and hang out with us. It's Cannabis Talk one on one.
We'll be right back after this break.
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Oh, because you know why they don't go to the.
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dot com. I love talking with you guys, Ravis and Dan,
and I want to get back to the pastors as
we were saying, because you said, Dan, you have a
story about pastors. Are they going to be on the
in the documentary as well?
Speaker 5 (27:28):
Yeah, Adan, the documentary, we have the California Council of Churches,
which is one of the biggest, you know, organization, faith
based organizations in California come out and support legalization.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
It's one hundreds of who was the pastor you know
you remember the names, Rick Schlasser, Rick's ahead of it.
Speaker 5 (27:48):
But you know it's basically when a lot of independent churches,
a lot of them, one hundreds of thousands of them,
they can unite and changed laws. And that was a
big moment in the movie as well. But we show
that this movie and a lot of different churches just
to see how you know, they invited us. It's not
like we initiated back in the day when they were
starting their own discussion. So there was a big church
(28:10):
here on the OC, a huge church. I forgot its name.
So the guy who books movies booked a screening. You know,
they have a movie night every week. And the pastor
came and talked to me and he said, this is
the Really, I'm not sure this is the right thing
for our church. You know, they'll see is a little
more conservative. And sually he saw the whole place packed up.
(28:30):
He never saw the church, I think that packed up.
And he came on stage and said, this is amazing.
I thought, this is a mistake to bring this movie here.
I was kind of angry at the guy who books movies.
But I see more people and I see on Christmas,
so I guess this is something people care about.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
It not oh, man, cannabis opens the door. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (28:51):
And then we showed it in another church in Seattle,
and again the pastor was talking to us. I said, look,
don't talk to me. Let's see what people say. It
might be contraver, virtual, people might get angry at me.
And at the end it was total quiet. And then
one person raised his hand and a woman raised her
hand and said, Pastor, we've been waiting ten years for
(29:11):
you to start talking about marijuana. I mean, I'm happy
he decided finally to raise this issue, but we have
a lot to say. And before she knew it, before anything, like,
everybody raised their hand and said, Pastor, you know, we
got to talk about it. And one guy said my
son was arrested, and one guy said my brother was arrested.
And the pastor said, wow, I was so afraid to
talk about it, but I see this is something you
all care about, so I guess this is just the
(29:33):
beginning of the discussion.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Pastor goes and I was arrested back in seventy two.
Speaker 5 (29:38):
But I think, you know what, I think a lot
of pastors just hold on to a belief just because
they're afraid of what other people will think about them.
But I think as they realized that this is a
legit topic and that actually everybody in the community, you know,
supports changing, they will change, you know, it's just changed.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Oh yeah, and only that. You know. It's funny as
you say that about pastors. I remember when I started
going to this church in the Bay Area called Jubilee
Christian Center, and it was Pastor Dick Burnell, and I
just recently got sober at the time, and I will
never forget going to the church for the first time
and hearing him speak on the pulpit saying when I
first came to the Lord, I thought it was byod,
(30:14):
bring your own dope, and I went, what did he
just say on the pope? But this man just said dope,
you know what I mean? And me and him hit
it off so well. We used to talk about how
he used to party and smoke weed and do all
kinds of stuff when he was younger, and he's never
hit from it. I would hope that that church, and
that's a big church. I think they're about eight to
ten thousand, maybe more by now, twelve fifteen thousand congregation
(30:37):
out there in San Jose. But Jubilee Christian Center, I
could get you in contact with them, because like I said,
that Pastor was out there matter of fact. Just because
you said that, now I got to reach out to
him and see if he'll come on the show to
talk about this, and maybe we see if we get
a screening for you guys.
Speaker 5 (30:52):
Right, could I think it? I think it's a faith
based on organization that will help really change minds and
change souls. You know, in the minute they stop talking
about it and realizing, you know what, this is not
a blue topic. This is not dealing with the devil.
This is just one more thing people do in the
past time. You know, it's no different than I'll call
and other stuff. I think then the real change will happen.
Speaker 4 (31:13):
You know.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Well even may go from we got this bread, we
got this wine, and we got this joint, you know
what I mean. It's like and we got this gummy bears.
Who knows where it goes to? It's like because you,
like you say, when you think about it, like when
a lot of people are saying that burning bush in
the Bible was a cannabis plant. You know, you hear
(31:34):
people making up these stories. God knows, I don't know
if that's the truth. And who knows, who knows, But
you know there's all kinds of things that people possibly
hallucinating and using LSD, using the mushrooms, using this, and
that's all natural. It's from the earth, right, And when
you think about it, when I get spiritual about it,
I go, God made this right. He's made a seed
(31:56):
that we can grow and then you can smoke it,
just like any other herb and medicine and plants that
we're using inside our bodies. And there's that whole aspect
in film and everything else that could be preached and
taught constantly.
Speaker 5 (32:10):
Right totally. And the thing is, look, they found it
in graves five thousand years ago, ten thousand years so
people have used it. It's not a It didn't just
show up in the sixties. It's been around, you know.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
That's what's funny about this. So you guys, I can't
wait for this to blow up. We're gonna have a
big film screening in Los Angeles June twenty nine, twenty ninth. Now,
how can people go to these screenings? How do they
get involved? How do they get a ticket?
Speaker 4 (32:36):
So the best place to get tickets is if you
just go to our website americanpotstory dot com. We have
a section called screenings and there's links there both to
tickets for our New Jersey premiere on June tenth and
for the La premiere on June twenty nine, and it's
a great place to just get all the information you need.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
I got a good personal question for you guys. As
your guys are husband and wife and spent ten years
making this film, how many arguments were there on the
editing aspect of it of what's going to get in
and what's going to get out? And how many did
you win? How many did you win? Because it went
down to an hour and a half and I'm thinking
you guys had about fucking forty hours of footage at
(33:16):
least hundred and forty hours. Yeah, So I mean, how
did those compromises settle?
Speaker 4 (33:23):
I always say it's who It's like a battle to
the end, whoever is the last person standing. But we have.
Speaker 5 (33:33):
Always wins.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
Is that what I could feelish wish?
Speaker 4 (33:37):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (33:38):
No, But we have an editor. So a lot of
times the editor.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
Is, oh, he plays the middleman, Yes, he.
Speaker 4 (33:47):
Marriage therapist, whatever's required, dancel, I really want this, and no,
we got to go with the other story.
Speaker 5 (33:53):
Though, and use more of that, and it's like the
great Italian all them at least, all the very passionate,
all the people around that ocean, you know, very passionate.
Speaker 4 (34:03):
Oh yeah, but we bring a calm, cool editor who's
like the tiebreaker, and then a last of time, you
just accept that if it's two against one.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
That helps. And then at the end epic.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Let's go. God, that's got to be so fun and
crazy being married with that much footage and looking at
it and just having having to decide to make and
then all that. I actually do like the fact that
it's an hour and a half because it's more digestible,
I mean, and I'm sure you're getting the story out
there because you're already winning awards, right and coo, kudos
(34:37):
to you guys for just showing it and already cleaning house.
I can't wait for this to blow up and go more.
Whatever we could do, I would love to watch it,
for God's sakes. I wish I would have watched it
beforehand so I could even talk about it more. I
should have told them to have you guys send me
a copy somehow someway. But I look forward to being
at the screening, that's for sure.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
I want you to see us on the big screen.
Speaker 5 (34:57):
I went crowd and you'll see how passionate people get
a lot of people remember those times, you know, that's
the thing. You remember the times you know, Oh, I
will have a.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
Red carpet arrival, so you'll walk in the red carpet.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
Well. I look forward to seeing you guys there. Before
we let you guys go, I want to do the
high five with you. Guys. It's so great to have
you on the show and talking about this new movie. Folks.
You got to go watch it when it comes to
a town near you or wait for Sony to buy
it and then it's you know, being out there all
over the place, God willing it does American Pot Story Oaksterdam.
Make sure you at least follow them on Instagram and
check out the website. We're going to do the high
(35:31):
five with you, ladies. First Rivals show. Answer the first question,
Daniel follow suit question number one, Old you the first
time you smoked cannabis and where'd you get it from?
Speaker 4 (35:40):
Like I said, I think I found a stash of
my parents when I was three and I either inhaled
it or took a bite at three.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
First person to beat me. I was like, six was crazy,
look at you? Ib was three. Damn them israel chicks
are crazy.
Speaker 5 (35:56):
True, true, Dan, I don't remember, buddy, I probably you know,
there was probably the smoke was everywhere.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
Young though young the first time. You don't really remember
your first time. Somebody going, I.
Speaker 5 (36:08):
Think that's so much marijuana smoking Israel. Probably baby smoke it,
you know, inhale it as you know, just in the car,
in the hospital.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
Wow, is it that like people smoke? We like that.
You just always remember smelling weed and it's.
Speaker 5 (36:20):
Never yeb smelling with everywhere.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
Wow, Israel is the place to be. Question number two,
what's your favorite way to use cannabis?
Speaker 3 (36:29):
Oh, I'm a bit of a dork, so I don't
use that often.
Speaker 4 (36:34):
I'm more And this is the one who says you
should do whatever the fuck you want as long as
you're not harming others.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Right, So just whatever, smoking, eating, whatever. It is nothing
like a mandatory. Oh I like it this way. No, No,
what about you, Dan, We're.
Speaker 5 (36:49):
Not really useless. But I think that helped us film
because nobody thought we're gonna steal the stash.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
That's always a good thing. So how about this when
you did when you did use what are your go
to munchies after you felt high?
Speaker 4 (37:03):
Gosh, it's been many, many years. I can't remember, but spaghetti, spaghetti.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
I just made spaghetti for the kids yesterday. What about you?
Dan hummus?
Speaker 5 (37:14):
Everything goes with right.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
I love hummus too. Oh, it's the best question. Number five.
This is a good one though, because you could easily
answer this. If you could smoke cannabis with anyone dead
or alive, who would it be? And why?
Speaker 3 (37:32):
Hold on? That's a great question. John Lennon, ooh, he
stole my guy.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
Really, both of you, you would be done John.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
Lennon, Big John Lennon fans favorite song.
Speaker 4 (37:49):
Oh hard to choose a maybe mind games because about
relationship crazy relationships.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
Oh, how long you guys been married?
Speaker 5 (37:58):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (37:58):
I stopped counting after ten.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
That's a good idea.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
And my grandma said, no, counting is a charm for
long living, and so everything's okay. Why make a big
deal of it?
Speaker 2 (38:08):
Why do that? Exactly? And now you guys have another
movie that's about to come out in twenty twenty four,
another documentary that you guys are doing. Good luck on
everything that you guys, got Is there anything else that
you guys are working on that you want to share
with everybody?
Speaker 4 (38:22):
I think we want this movie, like you said, to
have a life on both all over, but also maybe
to work on the next iterations of developing telling more
legalization stories of other important fighters in a movement.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
Well, I think it's great what you guys are doing
for the community and I can't wait to watch this
movie you guys, so go check it out. It's Cannabis
Talk one on one. If nobody else loves you, we do.
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com and today on the show. You guys, I got
a chance to meet the lovely lady on four twenty
if I'm not mistaken out at Rock Seeds. But today
on the podcast, we have the interesting duo. Who are
the masterminds behind the most important documentary about the legalization
of cannabis in the last decade. Folks. They our husband
and wife and our award winning filmmakers. We have Ravit
(01:15):
Marcus Rights. Is that correct? And I say that right yes?
And Dan Katzir Okay, there we go. Who's the latest documentary?
Features had its world premiere and won the Audience Award
at the twenty twenty three slam Dance Film Festival titled
American Pot Story Oaksterdam Now. They also won the Mayor's
(01:36):
Award at the Oakland's International Film Festival and the Stony
Award from Celebstoner for the Best pot Documentary. It is
a ten year follow up on a group of Oakland
underdogs who are the reason for the huge change we
see today in cannabis policy. It is social justice ramifications.
(01:57):
It explores the power of the activists, no matter the cause.
They were recently awarded the Loreene Arbist Disability Awareness Grant
from New York Women in Film and TV for their
next documentary, Nina, which is currently in post. It follows
Israel's champion of wheelchair badminton, Nina Goradensky possibly I hope
(02:18):
I said that Gordetski and her journey to the Tokyo Paralympics.
It is scheduled to premiere in early twenty twenty four.
Make sure you guys check out their personal website at
Newlovefilms dot com. And of course, the movie that we're
going to be talking about here today, you could check
out that website americanpotstory dot com to witness their genius firsthand.
(02:40):
Also follow them on Instagram at American pot Story to
learn more about this film. Without further ado, you guys
please give it up for Rabinson Dan in the building.
Thank you guys for coming on the show. You know,
I got to give a nice intro. I met your
wife on four twenty, which was very nice. But ten
years in the making and it's already winning awards and
(03:01):
it's about cannabis. How did you guys partner up with
Oaksterdam to do it? Was it a partnership first with Oaksterdam?
Was it something else that you guys started filming and
then got the partnership with Oaksterdam. Tell me the story
of how this all came about.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
It's not a partnership, it's.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
We fell in love with what they do and we've
just decided to follow them. We are independent filmmakers, and
we started filming them because we heard it's going to
be legalized in twenty ten, and we said.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
This is going to be a revolution. We've got to
film the revolution.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
And we just followed them for a decade and we
didn't think it's going to be so long. We finished
the film after they lost Prop nineteen and the film
was just it was such a downer. It didn't go anywhere.
So we kind of were down too for a while.
And then it sounded in twenty twelve that like they
were picking up the pieces and trying again, so we said,
(03:58):
let's keep going. And every year it was like, oh,
this year it's going to happen. No, this year's going
to happen this And by twenty sixteen, when actually they
legalized in California, we were so invested by then in
Dale Sky Jones' personal journey that we were like, Okay,
we want to stick a little bit more. See how
she's trying to actually bring the change to the federal level,
(04:20):
and we followed her all the way to when she
gave it a testimony.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
At the House and Capitol.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
Hill, and that we felt, okay, that's a good time
to stop and start sharing the film with the world.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Wow, so walk us through. Then it started. It's a
ten year journey. You guys looked at this California green rush,
so to speak, and said, oh, and then how did
and why did you pick Oaksterdam?
Speaker 5 (04:48):
So what happened was in twenty ten, Oaksterdam, can you
hear me?
Speaker 2 (04:54):
I can hear you? Connor? Can you fix this Mike
a little better? Please?
Speaker 5 (04:56):
Though?
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Go ahead?
Speaker 5 (04:57):
In twenty ten, everybody's in Fox you name it. All
the big networks were kind of reporting about Prop nineteen,
which was the first campaign in I think forty or
fifty years to try to legalize marijuana that made it
to the ballot. But everybody was making fun of them
because everybody treated them as a group of stoners in
(05:18):
California want to legalize it, and it seemed like a
joke because nobody thought it even had a chance. But
some are I heard them and I thought, wow, I
think these guys are serious and then we went and
met them, and it felt different. It felt different than
all the other people I've ever seen in my life
really trying to legalize. I felt, this is a group
of hardcore activists that have the passion, but also at
(05:41):
the same time, they had enough support, you know, both
within the movement and outside of the movement to create
some noise. So I was like, let's go. And unlike
the media of the other medias that were kind of
making fun of them, I treated this is the serious thing.
And it's hard to believe, you know, a little over
ten years later that now nobody is joke making fun
(06:02):
any more.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
It's not a joke.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
Yeah, it's for real. At the time, people thought a
group of stoners, you know, smoke too much and they
think they can actually legalize. But it's amazing, it's less.
It's a little over ten years and so much change
has happened.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
I mean, and as you watch, you're so right. You
guys literally said let's go film the revolution exactly and
you have ten yured how long is the movie?
Speaker 3 (06:25):
An hour and a half.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
When we started, everybody in the movement that we interviewed said, oh,
they're going to roll back all the achievement that we had.
They're going to actually make us look so bad that
the show that the American people have no interest in legalizing.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
That's going to roll back.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
All our achievements of the last forty years of fighting
for legalization. And our friends were basically making fun of
us for wasting time on even filming those hopeless idealists.
And they really showed that the American public was much
readier than anybody realized to this change.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Where are you guys from? Where do you guys originate from?
Speaker 3 (07:03):
We're from Israel, From Israel.
Speaker 5 (07:06):
I think that's why they let us film, because I
think when I was filming there, it seemed like they
were not really trusting anybody with cameras because you know,
back in the day, it feels like ages ago, but
it was, you know, twenty ten. You didn't know if
somebody is filming you talking about marijuana if you're from
the DA, FBI, CIA. So they didn't trust anybody. But
(07:29):
when Richard, who was leading that campaign, he talked to me,
I said, how come you trust me? He said, with
your accent.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
You ain't working for the day in this country. That
played for your benefit there, right exactly? I can see
that being the case.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
But I also think that there's something with the foreign
I that in a way we could see something that
the other basically people here don't see what other people
look like a joke. We could see that this was
a serious effort and worthy of times. I think sometimes
when you have this outsider look, you see things differently,
(08:07):
and you might spot things that people from the inside
won't recognize, like an important historical movement in them happening.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
I mean you would hope and think by now too,
that somebody would have already had something right and put
something out south that's been following things and journeys like
this for that long. But obviously nobody put the time
in the effort like you guys did. I can just
see you guys going further and further with this, and
it getting bigger and bigger, and hopefully getting bought by
a big company, going, hey man, we want your footage,
and we want to add some theatrics to this and
(08:35):
make this a full on motion picture. Is that the
dream is that the goal of the dreams, right? I mean,
I'm thinking going as an independent filmmakers, your goal would
be I did this, but please buy my idea buy
my footage and let's rock and roll.
Speaker 5 (08:52):
Look, it's more than buying the idea. It's more about
trying to bring this story to the masses.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Because I mean there's that too of why you did
You did it for the passion everything. I get that,
and I agree with it. Obviously, it's been a ten
year passion project because it didn't pay you guys now
before it was done, you know, I mean, it's still like, Okay,
now we have all this time and effort that we
put into it, it'd be nice.
Speaker 5 (09:12):
It would be nice.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
I'm just second if I was part of the team,
you know. Yeah, And not only that, it's it's a
a wonderful thing that you did, and it's great that
you had the eye to see this, to have the vision,
you know what I mean. From Israel going oh, well, cannabis,
we're doing research over here. Ten years ago they're doing
research in Israel. You kind of have a logist of
a little bit about what's going on in cannabis because Israel,
(09:35):
in my opinion, has been ahead of the game in
cannabis for the last twenty years in my opinion, right,
So for those who don't know that, you should realize
what Israel's been doing and studying and focusing on, but
then to come here and go, oh shit, they're probably
going to be legalizing it in California.
Speaker 5 (09:50):
So right, I thought, if anyway, you know, what happened
in California FETs to America, and what happened in America
fits the world. So I thought, if anywhere would happen,
you know, if any stay legalized, it's gonna start in California.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
And that's just so funny. We're gonna pick your brains
more about this, you guys. Americanpotstory dot com is the websites.
We're gonna find out where you can see this at,
where you can view it at, and maybe we'll have
a little party here at the Cannabis Talk one oh
one campus. We'll be right back after this break.
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the amazing filmmakers and producers Dan and Robis husband and wife,
(10:55):
and Ravison. I remember talking to you on four twenty
and Ali was just so pumped up on it. I'm
so pumped up on it. You guys have ten years
of footage. You guys have been shooting this is there
like the extended version, because an hour and a half
just doesn't seem like enough.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
So true.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Yeah, you know what I mean. Thank you, Connor. It's
like you. I was expecting to hear four and a
half hours, you know what I mean, and only that
I want to see four and a half. I want
to take a break. I wanted to be like the
whatever big long movie that Shawshank Redemption or something crazy
long are You're the Godfather.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
I love hearing this because what took us a very
long time was exactly Distilling ten years into just an
hour and a half was definitely not easy. It was
finding the right balance between the personal stories of the
people who are at the forefront of this fight and
the blood, sweat and tears that they put into it,
and the price they paid for their efforts.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
And there's definitely a price.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
As you know, the government can retaliate against you when
you try too hard to affect change. So this definitely
was the hardest part, just distilling it into an hour
and a half. But I think what we're going to do,
and I love what you're thinking. We'd definitely have on
our website with time kind of the scenes that were
left on the cutting room floors floor, because I think
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for the outsiders, for people who know nothing about the movement,
it was very important for us to make a film
that they will want to see because we don't want
to preach to the choir. We want to make sure
people who need to understand that their perception of the plant,
their perception of the policy was wrong, or that the
policy is wrong itself.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
We need them to see this movie.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
So we made a movie that you can show in churches,
and we have shown it in churches. We have made
a movie that can be anywhere where it's good for
people to have a discussion and reevaluate if the policy we.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Have on a federal level is right. So for that was.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
Important to make it compact as possible. But we're right,
we should have a longer version, maybe for the fan,
something that has a lot of wonderful stuff that we
just couldn't fit into the hour and a half.
Speaker 5 (13:05):
I think in one hundred years when people will want
to learn about this crazy era, I think our movie
will help people of the future be able to understand.
I mean, think about it. Thirty I don't know twenty
thirty forty percent of the people smoked marijuana or smoked marijuana,
and for one hundred years they were all silent. They
didn't bug the government. They try to be underground. When
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you think about alcohol prohibition, what would have a very
few short period and the people just said no. And
you know alcohol is popular, but so is marijuana. And
yet the people, all the stoners, did not stand up
and try to change the law for one hundred years.
It's kind of crazy.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
So is this available on the website or how can
people watch this?
Speaker 4 (13:49):
So for now the best is to follow us, as
you said on at American pot Story on Instagram or
Facebook where you post updates. It's mostly doing what's called
the festival circuit. It's it's been in some the coolest
film festival Slam Dance Dance wearing the shirt h sure,
where we won the audience Award. And now we have
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our new Jersey premiere at the Lighthouse International Film Festival,
another very cool film festival on Long Beach Island.
Speaker 5 (14:15):
Also one of the top independent film festival in the US.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
Yeah, so it's really cool that we're going to be there,
and that's going to be on June tenth, three forty
five pm, and we're going to have an awesome after party.
And then please, I hope you're going to be there
at June twenty nine, our big LA premiere as part of.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
The Chinese Man Theater, right, Yes, dude, that's crazy that
you guys got the Chinese Man like they do the big, big,
big movie premiere.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (14:40):
Later there will be a party at Roosevelt, but only
for people who have a ticket for your premiere. It's
also Dances with Films, which is very cool film. The
top independent film festival in LA right now. So we're
starting to build the mythology of this film. So we'll
travel to all the top independent film festivals in the US, the.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
World, and the world, and then after we'll work hopefully
in partnership with you in some release where people can
buy the film online.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
You'll figure out, of course. I mean I can't. I
can't see why Netflix wouldn't pick it up, or you know,
call it Amazon, whatever you want. Paramount should pick it up.
I mean, I think they all should be fighting for it, right,
I mean, especially if it's winning these awards. I've heard
nothing but great things about it. I've not yet to
see it, but you know, the people that we all know,
the similar people that we've met, and everybody in Ali
(15:29):
who's working with us, that works with, you know, hand
in hand with Oaksterdam, has had nothing but great things
to say about this. And of course we love everybody
over that at Oaksterdam. So tell me a little bit
more about this to them. How does it start? Where
does it go? I mean you're not gonna be able
to give everything in detail, but I mean, what can
somebody expect when they see this? Am I gonna cry?
Am I gonna be like? Oh I'm mad? Like you know?
(15:50):
Is it sparking emotions?
Speaker 5 (15:51):
It's a fun movie. It's a fun movie about activism.
It's about marijuana, but it's about any activist, and it's
about how a small group of activists can change, you know,
can make history. And many times, look when we watch
it the news, we get angry. It doesn't matter if
you're left or right. You feel I'm powerless. I have
no power. The corporations have the money. You know, Washington
(16:12):
is so corrupt and everybody there is about the money.
And our film shows, you know what a small group
of people they didn't have that much money, but they
had a lot of passion and they made history and
they rocked first America and then the world, you know,
in the whole world kind of listen. So I think
when people decide they want to change something and they
really want to change it, and they're willing to put
the time and the energy, they can rock the world.
(16:35):
And that's kind of the message. And our movie is
about marijuana, but it's true for anything.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
How did you figure out to follow these people that
made these movements? Like how did that go? Like hmm,
Like that's such a dice roll, Like if you know,
you come in here and you go, oh, which one
of these guys is gonna do something great tonight. Let's
see Connor only has one eye because he scratches right now,
he can't see you know this guy, he's to be
at a bar, beach, barcelara. He's not going to be
(17:02):
doing anything. And then you look at Daniel, He's probably
gonna go to a restaurant tonight and go eat somewhere. Like,
how do you figure how did you guys figure out
these are the crew to follow?
Speaker 3 (17:13):
That's a great question.
Speaker 5 (17:15):
Look, I met them. I saw their passion also when
I went to Oaks to them and to Oakland, and
I was living in LA at the time. You know,
the dispensaries were not really legal or they were semi legal,
and they were kind of more you know something back
alley thing and city. And I came there and it
looked different. It looked like, you know, a little dog.
(17:38):
He Richardly wanted to create a new image from marijuana,
and he did it in the middle of the street.
And he created a whole district called the Oaksterdam District
where they were kind of trying to build a model
of how a regulated marijuana industry would look. And I
was just blown away. I was like, he was, you know,
near the police station and near the federal building. He
(17:58):
was creating all these stores. Just said look, this is
how it can be, you know, it was just testing,
you know, lainforcement and come and arrest me. But this
is how I think it should be in the future.
It's like probably the first time he went to an
Apple store and you saw, Wow, computers are cool, you know.
So I was like, wow, these people are like in
broad daylight, you know, attempting to change a lot just
(18:20):
by giving an example of how the future could look
like if it becomes legit.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
And Dan were you there and had to come back
and go Robbis, so I have a great idea and
she go, what the fuck are you smoking?
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Totally I'm like, what, I admit that. I first when
he said this, I said, who cares?
Speaker 5 (18:40):
Why it is.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
Important to legalize weed?
Speaker 4 (18:43):
And then he had to start researching and throwing a
lot of facts at me and basically talking about how
the policy is hurting communities of color and how it's
feeding people into the prison industrial complex. And then I said, oh,
that is important because I said, well, everybody I know
can get high and there's no problem. And they didn't
(19:04):
realize a lot of people that I don't know end
up in prison for that. And I was like, what,
people are actually going to prison for a week.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
That's impossible.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
So you didn't know this. It's funny that, you know
what it's that is funny that I don't think a
lot of people still realize that. Yeah, a lot of
people have no clue of that, and especially a lot
of white folks. Let's just call it what it is, right,
A lot of white folks, as you're well, you know,
light skinned, have no fucking clue what really goes on
(19:35):
out there for us minorities that I've dealt with, the
oh you're smoking that white guy, O'Connor, go hide, go
play soccer. You guys come over here, salar you're smoking.
We and you're busted. Tell you're busted. But it's like,
you know, it's real, and it's so real that, like
I've been talking to somebody just earlier today on another podcast.
We always hear the numbers, you know, of the minority
(19:56):
that gets busted more than the white folks, and does
does your document we touch on that as well.
Speaker 5 (20:01):
It's like the amount of people that were arrested is
equal to that as if the government arrested Sorry, the
amount of people arrested for weeds is equivalent to the
government arresting people in the twelve smaller states in the US.
It so that if they took the twelve states of
the US arrested all the people there, that's the amount
of people arrested for weed. And people don't realize it
(20:22):
now in the country and in the US or in
the US alone. Now the thing is word from Israel,
weed is not really a crime. You know, they kind
of it's not legal, but it's not illegal. You know,
it's kind of in that grade zone, like you said before.
So for us, you know, as fun as suddenly we realized, wow,
this is people of color, people who have less money
(20:44):
to hire good lawyers. It's just it's it's a and
we touch about we touch on it because the NAACP,
we filmed them change you know, the California and DOAACP
decided to support legalization before everybody else, and tens of
thousands of people called to Austa Alice Hoffman, who was
the head of the NAACP, because they felt, you know,
(21:08):
she's supporting the devil's weights, you know, and she showed
us bags and bags of letters.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
It was mind blowing, really, So you guys caught that
when that happened too. Yeah, dude, this is crazy to
think which you guys were able to grab.
Speaker 5 (21:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Yeah, I mean because it's almost another time of a
dice rollers, Do we go to this meeting? Do we
go to that? Right?
Speaker 5 (21:29):
It was crazy and there was just history being made
every day. There was you know, a lot of pastors
started deciding the changing their mind. A lot of people
were changing their mind in ten years. And it's amazing
how these ten years were like so epic and so historic,
and when we look at it one day, we will say, wow,
this was a natural craziness.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
It's funny, you say, pastors, Dan, I've been wanting to
reach out to the church that my family and I
go to have the pastor because it's a huge church,
right and saddle back out and forest they have nationwide,
but it's a big, big campus. Rick Warren from the
h he has a book that was out or number
one best seller book, The Purpose of Life is what
(22:11):
He was the previous head pastor. He's still the main
guy there, but there's a new head pastor there now,
younger gentlemen. And I actually would love to get Rick
and this pastor on this show to talk about, you know,
because it's a you know, fifty thousand population church. It's
a huge church, and you know, for leading that many people,
I'm sure there's some weed smokers in the building. And
(22:32):
you know what I mean. And it's like, what is
the church's view on that? Because you're right, I think
it has changed, because I'm only imagining the Pope's changed
on gage, you know what I mean. I would hope
the Pope is using some of them, some selva with
some creams on himself. As old as he is, he
needs some of this good THC CBD creams on his body.
Speaker 5 (22:52):
Right, and does nothing in the Bible or the New
Testament that says I mean when you look at prohibition,
you know there's stuff in the Bible against all cahl,
but there's nothing against weeed so and wid was used
back in the day. So they are whatever their opinion is.
It's not based on any scripture. It's just based on opinion.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
And let me ask you this, just because you guys
are from there, I mean I always look at Israel
is what it is, the motherland, right, I mean, this
is where Jesus walked for God's sake, And how is
it viewed there? You're saying it's not illegal, but it's
not legal, and is it where is it talked about?
Is like normal as a kid? Like no, no, no?
Or is it oh your parents, your uncles, your family
(23:35):
all smoked weed, had some wine. I mean, how was that?
What was normal in Israel for you guys.
Speaker 4 (23:43):
I just want to first mention that we filmed the
guy who is the reason why Israel is the forefront
of research, Professor Raphael Michulam. We filmed him, we interviewed
him for the film. It's again one of those things
that fell on the cutting room floor, but he recently
passed away, and interviewing him, he was so cool.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
So that's going to be on the editor's cut and
gonna be on the website.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
We have to watch something exactly exactly. So I just
want to mention that.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
And I think maybe because he was there, it just
wasn't such a big deal growing up. It was definitely
not the weed of the devil. It was just something that, yeah,
it was obvious that some people do it. It's not
a big deal. And I think it's not such a
big deal that there's no obsession. You don't feel like
(24:30):
I have to try it because that's going to be
a rebellion gainst my parents because my parents did it
in the seventies.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Oh, your parents spoke to you too, Dan, your parents too.
Speaker 5 (24:39):
My parents, I don't know, you don't know.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
My parents are cooler.
Speaker 4 (24:43):
My parents said that when I was three, they I
found a stash and I don't know if I inhaled
it took a.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
Bite, but I had a great laugh for three hours.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Oh wow, I was six when I first started smoking,
So yeah, it goes real young for me. So in
Israel it just kind of one of those things me
ask you this. Did you guys ever know anybody to
get arrested for it or get in trouble because of
cannabis growing up? No?
Speaker 5 (25:05):
Not in it though, because it's not something that priests
care about.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (25:10):
I stuff here on the books that maybe I've maybe
gone the books that nobody cares about this.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
You know. Yeah, the cops are starting to get a
little less sum but I don't think it's like they
don't care. I mean, you know, you still can't just
walk around and smoke and there's a cop and hey,
what's up? You know what I mean, They're like, hey, man,
you're come here, here's your ticket for it? In Amsterdam,
you know, right, I've never been, but exactly, I know
what's mean.
Speaker 5 (25:32):
It's illegal in Amsterdam, but nobody's gonna I don't think
anybody will ever arrested for I wanta used to have
like a coffee shop stuff for fifty years.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Yeah, all kinds of good stuff. We're gonna come back.
We're gonna talk more about this movie that's out there, folks.
I can't wait for the premiere coming down in Los Angeles.
We're gonna tell you how you can get those tickets
to become a you know, come to the party afterwards
and hang out with us. It's Cannabis Talk one on one.
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dot com. I love talking with you guys, Ravis and Dan,
and I want to get back to the pastors as
we were saying, because you said, Dan, you have a
story about pastors. Are they going to be on the
in the documentary as well?
Speaker 5 (27:28):
Yeah, Adan, the documentary, we have the California Council of Churches,
which is one of the biggest, you know, organization, faith
based organizations in California come out and support legalization.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
It's one hundreds of who was the pastor you know
you remember the names, Rick Schlasser, Rick's ahead of it.
Speaker 5 (27:48):
But you know it's basically when a lot of independent churches,
a lot of them, one hundreds of thousands of them,
they can unite and changed laws. And that was a
big moment in the movie as well. But we show
that this movie and a lot of different churches just
to see how you know, they invited us. It's not
like we initiated back in the day when they were
starting their own discussion. So there was a big church
(28:10):
here on the OC, a huge church. I forgot its name.
So the guy who books movies booked a screening. You know,
they have a movie night every week. And the pastor
came and talked to me and he said, this is
the Really, I'm not sure this is the right thing
for our church. You know, they'll see is a little
more conservative. And sually he saw the whole place packed up.
(28:30):
He never saw the church, I think that packed up.
And he came on stage and said, this is amazing.
I thought, this is a mistake to bring this movie here.
I was kind of angry at the guy who books movies.
But I see more people and I see on Christmas,
so I guess this is something people care about.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
It not oh, man, cannabis opens the door. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (28:51):
And then we showed it in another church in Seattle,
and again the pastor was talking to us. I said, look,
don't talk to me. Let's see what people say. It
might be contraver, virtual, people might get angry at me.
And at the end it was total quiet. And then
one person raised his hand and a woman raised her
hand and said, Pastor, we've been waiting ten years for
(29:11):
you to start talking about marijuana. I mean, I'm happy
he decided finally to raise this issue, but we have
a lot to say. And before she knew it, before anything, like,
everybody raised their hand and said, Pastor, you know, we
got to talk about it. And one guy said my
son was arrested, and one guy said my brother was arrested.
And the pastor said, wow, I was so afraid to
talk about it, but I see this is something you
all care about, so I guess this is just the
(29:33):
beginning of the discussion.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Pastor goes and I was arrested back in seventy two.
Speaker 5 (29:38):
But I think, you know what, I think a lot
of pastors just hold on to a belief just because
they're afraid of what other people will think about them.
But I think as they realized that this is a
legit topic and that actually everybody in the community, you know,
supports changing, they will change, you know, it's just changed.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Oh yeah, and only that. You know. It's funny as
you say that about pastors. I remember when I started
going to this church in the Bay Area called Jubilee
Christian Center, and it was Pastor Dick Burnell, and I
just recently got sober at the time, and I will
never forget going to the church for the first time
and hearing him speak on the pulpit saying when I
first came to the Lord, I thought it was byod,
(30:14):
bring your own dope, and I went, what did he
just say on the pope? But this man just said dope,
you know what I mean? And me and him hit
it off so well. We used to talk about how
he used to party and smoke weed and do all
kinds of stuff when he was younger, and he's never
hit from it. I would hope that that church, and
that's a big church. I think they're about eight to
ten thousand, maybe more by now, twelve fifteen thousand congregation
(30:37):
out there in San Jose. But Jubilee Christian Center, I
could get you in contact with them, because like I said,
that Pastor was out there matter of fact. Just because
you said that, now I got to reach out to
him and see if he'll come on the show to
talk about this, and maybe we see if we get
a screening for you guys.
Speaker 5 (30:52):
Right, could I think it? I think it's a faith
based on organization that will help really change minds and
change souls. You know, in the minute they stop talking
about it and realizing, you know what, this is not
a blue topic. This is not dealing with the devil.
This is just one more thing people do in the
past time. You know, it's no different than I'll call
and other stuff. I think then the real change will happen.
Speaker 4 (31:13):
You know.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Well even may go from we got this bread, we
got this wine, and we got this joint, you know
what I mean. It's like and we got this gummy bears.
Who knows where it goes to? It's like because you,
like you say, when you think about it, like when
a lot of people are saying that burning bush in
the Bible was a cannabis plant. You know, you hear
(31:34):
people making up these stories. God knows, I don't know
if that's the truth. And who knows, who knows, But
you know there's all kinds of things that people possibly
hallucinating and using LSD, using the mushrooms, using this, and
that's all natural. It's from the earth, right, And when
you think about it, when I get spiritual about it,
I go, God made this right. He's made a seed
(31:56):
that we can grow and then you can smoke it,
just like any other herb and medicine and plants that
we're using inside our bodies. And there's that whole aspect
in film and everything else that could be preached and
taught constantly.
Speaker 5 (32:10):
Right totally. And the thing is, look, they found it
in graves five thousand years ago, ten thousand years so
people have used it. It's not a It didn't just
show up in the sixties. It's been around, you know.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
That's what's funny about this. So you guys, I can't
wait for this to blow up. We're gonna have a
big film screening in Los Angeles June twenty nine, twenty ninth. Now,
how can people go to these screenings? How do they
get involved? How do they get a ticket?
Speaker 4 (32:36):
So the best place to get tickets is if you
just go to our website americanpotstory dot com. We have
a section called screenings and there's links there both to
tickets for our New Jersey premiere on June tenth and
for the La premiere on June twenty nine, and it's
a great place to just get all the information you need.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
I got a good personal question for you guys. As
your guys are husband and wife and spent ten years
making this film, how many arguments were there on the
editing aspect of it of what's going to get in
and what's going to get out? And how many did
you win? How many did you win? Because it went
down to an hour and a half and I'm thinking
you guys had about fucking forty hours of footage at
(33:16):
least hundred and forty hours. Yeah, So I mean, how
did those compromises settle?
Speaker 4 (33:23):
I always say it's who It's like a battle to
the end, whoever is the last person standing. But we have.
Speaker 5 (33:33):
Always wins.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
Is that what I could feelish wish?
Speaker 4 (33:37):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (33:38):
No, But we have an editor. So a lot of
times the editor.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
Is, oh, he plays the middleman, Yes, he.
Speaker 4 (33:47):
Marriage therapist, whatever's required, dancel, I really want this, and no,
we got to go with the other story.
Speaker 5 (33:53):
Though, and use more of that, and it's like the
great Italian all them at least, all the very passionate,
all the people around that ocean, you know, very passionate.
Speaker 4 (34:03):
Oh yeah, but we bring a calm, cool editor who's
like the tiebreaker, and then a last of time, you
just accept that if it's two against one.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
That helps. And then at the end epic.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Let's go. God, that's got to be so fun and
crazy being married with that much footage and looking at
it and just having having to decide to make and
then all that. I actually do like the fact that
it's an hour and a half because it's more digestible,
I mean, and I'm sure you're getting the story out
there because you're already winning awards, right and coo, kudos
(34:37):
to you guys for just showing it and already cleaning house.
I can't wait for this to blow up and go more.
Whatever we could do, I would love to watch it,
for God's sakes. I wish I would have watched it
beforehand so I could even talk about it more. I
should have told them to have you guys send me
a copy somehow someway. But I look forward to being
at the screening, that's for sure.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
I want you to see us on the big screen.
Speaker 5 (34:57):
I went crowd and you'll see how passionate people get
a lot of people remember those times, you know, that's
the thing. You remember the times you know, Oh, I
will have a.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
Red carpet arrival, so you'll walk in the red carpet.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
Well. I look forward to seeing you guys there. Before
we let you guys go, I want to do the
high five with you. Guys. It's so great to have
you on the show and talking about this new movie. Folks.
You got to go watch it when it comes to
a town near you or wait for Sony to buy
it and then it's you know, being out there all
over the place, God willing it does American Pot Story Oaksterdam.
Make sure you at least follow them on Instagram and
check out the website. We're going to do the high
(35:31):
five with you, ladies. First Rivals show. Answer the first question,
Daniel follow suit question number one, Old you the first
time you smoked cannabis and where'd you get it from?
Speaker 4 (35:40):
Like I said, I think I found a stash of
my parents when I was three and I either inhaled
it or took a bite at three.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
First person to beat me. I was like, six was crazy,
look at you? Ib was three. Damn them israel chicks
are crazy.
Speaker 5 (35:56):
True, true, Dan, I don't remember, buddy, I probably you know,
there was probably the smoke was everywhere.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
Young though young the first time. You don't really remember
your first time. Somebody going, I.
Speaker 5 (36:08):
Think that's so much marijuana smoking Israel. Probably baby smoke it,
you know, inhale it as you know, just in the car,
in the hospital.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
Wow, is it that like people smoke? We like that.
You just always remember smelling weed and it's.
Speaker 5 (36:20):
Never yeb smelling with everywhere.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
Wow, Israel is the place to be. Question number two,
what's your favorite way to use cannabis?
Speaker 3 (36:29):
Oh, I'm a bit of a dork, so I don't
use that often.
Speaker 4 (36:34):
I'm more And this is the one who says you
should do whatever the fuck you want as long as
you're not harming others.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Right, So just whatever, smoking, eating, whatever. It is nothing
like a mandatory. Oh I like it this way. No, No,
what about you, Dan, We're.
Speaker 5 (36:49):
Not really useless. But I think that helped us film
because nobody thought we're gonna steal the stash.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
That's always a good thing. So how about this when
you did when you did use what are your go
to munchies after you felt high?
Speaker 4 (37:03):
Gosh, it's been many, many years. I can't remember, but spaghetti, spaghetti.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
I just made spaghetti for the kids yesterday. What about you?
Dan hummus?
Speaker 5 (37:14):
Everything goes with right.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
I love hummus too. Oh, it's the best question. Number five.
This is a good one though, because you could easily
answer this. If you could smoke cannabis with anyone dead
or alive, who would it be? And why?
Speaker 3 (37:32):
Hold on? That's a great question. John Lennon, ooh, he
stole my guy.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
Really, both of you, you would be done John.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
Lennon, Big John Lennon fans favorite song.
Speaker 4 (37:49):
Oh hard to choose a maybe mind games because about
relationship crazy relationships.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
Oh, how long you guys been married?
Speaker 5 (37:58):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (37:58):
I stopped counting after ten.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
That's a good idea.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
And my grandma said, no, counting is a charm for
long living, and so everything's okay. Why make a big
deal of it?
Speaker 2 (38:08):
Why do that? Exactly? And now you guys have another
movie that's about to come out in twenty twenty four,
another documentary that you guys are doing. Good luck on
everything that you guys, got Is there anything else that
you guys are working on that you want to share
with everybody?
Speaker 4 (38:22):
I think we want this movie, like you said, to
have a life on both all over, but also maybe
to work on the next iterations of developing telling more
legalization stories of other important fighters in a movement.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
Well, I think it's great what you guys are doing
for the community and I can't wait to watch this
movie you guys, so go check it out. It's Cannabis
Talk one on one. If nobody else loves you, we do.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
Thank you for having us, Thank you guys for having show.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
Thank you for listening to Cannabis Talk one on one
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