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Speaker 1 (00:03):
It's now time for Cannabis Talk one oh one with Blue,
Joe Grande and Mark and Craig Wasserman the Pot Brothers
at Law. We're the world's number one podcast for everything cannabis.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Welcome to Cannabis Talk one on one.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
My name is Blue, alongside a man of the world
famous Pot Brothers in Law and mister Joe Grande. Hello,
my brother, and we are now tuned into the greatest
cannabis show on the planet the universe.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
I say, the galaxy. I say, we get right into it.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
Oh and let's finish with Mark, or you know, let's
start with Mark. Actually, Mark, you're on your way to
the hospital, but you wanted to tell us a story
and that beat us on a case that you've been
working on that you came in here so frantically one
day screaming about a gentleman that was about to lose
his children because the mother in law ratted him out
to say, he jokes cannabis, yes, and.
Speaker 5 (00:50):
He uses medicinal cannabis. And this case happened up in Quartererhills.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
California, I believe, and he actually.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
The judge order is be taken away.
Speaker 6 (01:02):
Because he uses medicinal cannabis, and I told him we
were going to try to find him an attorney to
help fight up in that area. So just yesterday I
got a call from Melissa Fox, and you might remember her.
Speaker 7 (01:20):
She's a city councilwoman for the city of Irvine.
Speaker 6 (01:23):
Who me and my brother a few years back campaigned
for and helped get her elected.
Speaker 5 (01:28):
She called us up. She's running for state Assembly and
was looking for some oupin back.
Speaker 6 (01:34):
We're going to interview her, but she started telling me
about her friend, this woman, Lauren Johnson, who's an attorney
that she's working with on a lot of things, who
just had a case that was on appeal in California.
Speaker 5 (01:47):
She won, and it was the first case on appeal.
Speaker 7 (01:51):
To overturn that a person cannot have their parental rights
taken away just because they use medical candid So I
referred this guy to her, and now they're gonna be fighting.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
And what do you know when they're gonna be talking,
are you done with this case at all?
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Or what's what's like?
Speaker 5 (02:12):
I'll be following up. They're gonna keep me following up.
Speaker 6 (02:15):
He talked to her, I think yesterday, and as soon
as I get more information, I will keep everybody informed
and we'll follow up well.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Keep us posted.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
And you're going to the hospital, make sure you give
Pack a big hug from all of us, as I
know you're gonna go see a good friend of ours
and you're happy to be his attorney.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Our prayers are with with with you, him and his family,
I mean everybody especially you know, uh, the severity of
what's going on with with Pac and you know we
we we want to.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
You know, Pax strong.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
I don't know who's worse right now, Maybe Craig, you
could help me out with this. Is Pack worse or
is Mark worse for dealing with this? Because your brother's
been on end so much? At least Pack still has
his personality. He's lifting up his you know, garment. He's
having fun. Your brother hasn't had fun ever since his
Accident's having He's been a mess.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
How are you guys communicating Mark?
Speaker 8 (03:02):
I mean, I'm going to do what I gotta do,
so I'll check all right, let us know how it goes.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Check with us later. Send out a love please by
give him a pint from us? All right? All right? So,
so Blue, what do we got going on? Who's making waves? Brother?
Speaker 3 (03:16):
So if you're looking to find out who's making waves
in the world of cannabis. Cannabis Talk one on one
is the place to be, Yes, it is. So we
have an amazing guest for you guys today. His name
is Weldon Angelus, right, Weldon correct, Welcome to the show.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Weldon, how are you today?
Speaker 5 (03:30):
What's up man?
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Thanks for having me, no doubt man. So, Weldon has
the Weldon the Weldon Project. It's to help people that
are currently incarcerated, right, And can you share that with us.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
A little bit.
Speaker 7 (03:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (03:43):
So when I got obviously I did time in prison
for cannabis. Myself served thirteen years on a fifty five
year sentence for nine dollars worth of cannabis. And I
got out, now you know what I'm saying. Yeah, when
I got out, you know, because of President Obama's clemency program,
and I had a lot of people pulling for me,
like Booker, Senator Mike Lee, the Koch Brothers, even We're
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pushing for me. And I got out and I hit
the ground run, and I started working with the White
House and numerous senators and celebrities, and we got the
first criminal justice reform passed since nineteen seventy in the
federal system. However, it didn't affect anyone in prison for
cannabis cases. So when after we passed out, you know,
we were celebrating in the White House, I thought of
my friends who were in prison for operating a medical
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dispensary in California who got twenty two years, And so
I lost the welding project. And our first initiative is
Mission Green, and Mission Green is dedicated solely to the
freedom of people in prison for cannabis.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Wow, congratulations, I've seen your story.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
You've been on like several news like you've been on
national news stuff as well. Right, I've heard this story before. Yeah,
I hear what you're doing and doing. How do you
figure out who you're gonna help as far as is
it only cannabis or if it's cannabis and they had
methodphetamines and a gun, how do you narrow that down?
Speaker 5 (04:56):
Well, so, right now we're focused on purely cannabis cases
because we feel like they're the low hanging fruit, and
especially with this president, it's not as easy getting clemency
as it was under Obama, and so we're trying to
narrow it down to like the easiest group of people,
Like we got a guy named Luke who was just
operating a medical dispensary modesto two thousand and eight. He
was indicted following state law. He didn't commit any other crimes.
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He got twenty two years. And so we're looking for
people that fit this criteria and we're taking him to
the President. I have a relationship with the White House,
and we're asking for clemency for this category. And we
believe this will send a message to Congress that they
need broader reform to affect other people who may not
have such compelling cases.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Now do you find that that you know you're getting?
I mean, I guess you can't move the ball fast enough, right,
I mean, but is a small process or is this
a process that's Have you guys been successful yet, you know,
with obviously getting people like yourself out, I mean yeah.
Speaker 5 (05:52):
I mean we got the guy I mentioned. His name's
Luke Scarmazzo. We were able to get his Cody fin
and out Ricardo Montes, they had the same case, and
I filed their clemency petitions to the President. One was granted,
one was denied. And so it's that random selection, you
know that we're trying to change because you know, right now,
the people who are deciding these cases are the prosecutors.
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And so this president, you know, despite what people may
think of him, he created a clemency committee that takes
the discretion from the Department of Justice, who's the one
that put us there in the first place, and putting
it in a group of thirteen individuals who are some
formally incarcerated and people who are in politics in different areas,
and they are bypassing the DOJ and deciding these cases directly,
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and so I believe things will start speeding up. Now.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
I love hearing that about Donald Trump, to tell you
the truth, and I'm not a fan. I'm not going
to front nacock, am, but I love hearing you share
a good story because I want to hear more good
stories about this dude.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Why I'm happy to hear that, why did the committee?
Speaker 8 (06:49):
Do they make any decision or say why they let
one guy off? The same exactly facts for the committee
that was the DOJ gotch Now the people that.
Speaker 5 (06:58):
Put you in prison have the decision and whether or
not you get clemency because the presidents, they haven't traditionally
granted clemency unless the prosecutor stamped it right now. Trump
took that away from them and created an independent committee
that will look at these petitions, vote on him, and
send them up to the White House Council for approval.
Speaker 8 (07:16):
How many of you presented under that format yet? If any,
I mean we present.
Speaker 5 (07:21):
They've passed already thirty and we're just waiting on those
to come down. Well, just in February, I went to
the White House and hand delivered a letter to the
President asking him to start commuting these individual cases like Luke's.
And right after that, a female who was serving twenty
years for cannabis. She had served fifteen years and she
was released. But then COVID hit us, and so I
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believe that kind of slowed it down. But I do
believe that we will see more cases coming. And we're
also working in the courts too. You know, we passed
some legislation that allowed judges to give these cases a
second look, and we're using Luke's as a test case
for that.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
Cool we're talking to weldn from the Well Done Project
and he's making waves of blue and this guy amazing
what he's doing. Well, then, are you a lawyer by
any chance, as you served your of the thirteen years
in prison, did you get your degree in prison?
Speaker 5 (08:08):
No? I got a lot of people out of jail, though,
and so you know, I just stayed. I had fifty
five years, so I didn't know if I was ever
getting now. So I buried myself in law books and
you know, and I got a lot of people. I
couldn't get myself out, but I was able to create
a coalition that eventually resulted in my release. Where a lawyer,
but I'm good.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Where are you located at? What area?
Speaker 5 (08:28):
Salt Lake City, Utah.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
That's beautiful what you're doing. And I'm just wondering. I
got these two lawyers that I do a show with
called The Cannabis Talk one on one. I'm wondering if
you could teach them how to get people out of prison,
because they're real lawyers.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
And can't do shit for people. Definitely, I'm not sure
who he's talking to.
Speaker 5 (08:45):
Strategies.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
I will not be disrespected. I'm not talking about you.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Let's ask this, well, then, why why do you think
the president you know, created that policy you know what,
or allowed that policy to pass?
Speaker 2 (08:57):
What do you think his thought process was.
Speaker 5 (08:58):
Behind that you talk about the committee or the first
step back, the legislation.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
The committee, the committee.
Speaker 5 (09:04):
Well, you know, he's not a typical politician, and typical
politicians look at things like will this affect my reelection?
Will this affect my legacy. Given that he's not a
typical politician, he doesn't care. He doesn't factor those into
his decision making. You know, he looks to the people pleaser.
And so a lot of people have taken this to
his attention and shown how unjust this the system is.
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Like Alice Mrie Johnson, who Kim Kardashian successfully lobbied the
president to let out. The pardon office denied her petition
like four times twice under Obama, once under Bush, and
once under Trump. And so you know that was evidence
alone that this old grandmother who was in there for
a non violent drug offense should have been out years ago,
and she had a life sentence. So he looked at
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it like, Okay, this system is messed up. Let's form
our own committee and let's look at these ourselves. And
I think it's a good thing. Even if we let
out some of his his homeboys or some of his affiliates,
if we get out a lot of other people. It's
worth it to me.
Speaker 8 (09:58):
Now, No, I'll tell you I agree, you know what,
if it works and gets people out one But I
disagree on his motives. His motives, I think are everybody
has denied this. Lady Kim Kardashian's come to me, this
is gonna look so good.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Look what I did for her. If that results, if
that result he's getting in this Donald Trump is gonna
look so if.
Speaker 8 (10:19):
That results in people getting out, then I really don't
care what his motive is. I don't really care. I
think it's great and if that's what it takes for
him at this point in time, at the place he is,
for him to every politician though.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
Craig, I mean, was there too. Obama would have been
the same thing. Obama didn't let her go either. But
my point is everyone had that.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
Kim didn't bring him to the table though, you know
what I mean, Had Kim Kardashian walked up.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Coming at you.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Irashians, man, they're doing a great job. So so well
then you know, starting the welding project, obviously, I would
imagine you know, in your doing fifty years, you know,
thirteen years, you got a lot of time to think right. So,
so in that thirteen years period of time, did you
create it inside the tank or did you come out
of it creating it? I mean, where did it? Where
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was it birthed? And then you know who's involved with
you in it? Now?
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Are you solo? How's that working out? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (11:17):
No, Actually I created when I got out of jail.
You know, I didn't know I would be getting out
when I did, and it was sort of sudden. And
so when I got out, you know, I started producing
the documentary. You know, that was the first thing we did,
just to kind of raise awareness. And then I ended
up at the White House and meeting with doing panels
with Corey Booker and Mike Lee and the Koch brothers.
I felt like I should use my influence and my
connections to effect change. And so, you know, one of
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my former partners in the music industry, Big Hollis, worked
with me to create this nonprofit. We have other people
involved in this, including celebrities and athletes and political figures,
and you know, we're trying to take this to the
next level. And for instance, recently we just welcomed Stormy
signon the pharmacy yield High Times to the team and
so you know, we're really excited and we're growing, and
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especially right now with everything that's coming out, like we
really need to push this and we're trying to get
the industry behind us because we could do a lot
with the connections that we have.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
You know, we we we like Stormy Sigmon's we just great.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
We just had her on the show recently, so that's
a you know, great move for you guys as well.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
She's also going to be running for something in.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
The office out there in Idaho.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
You yeah, ning for office.
Speaker 5 (12:23):
Yeah, yeah, change because you know, we have a medical
marijuana law out here and it's crap. Like we had
a ballot initiative that was amazing and the legislature tore
it up. And I think that's part of the motivation
for wanting to run for office here.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
So let's talk about some of the celebrities that got
behind you, because I know Snoop Dogg, there's I mean,
there's a ton of mic and you give us a
handful of the names and kind of what they're their involvement,
their involvement.
Speaker 5 (12:48):
Yeah yeah, Kg's you know, he got behind us, and
you know we had a dandy treo, you know, just
a ton of people. We even had former Governor Gary
Johnson and a bunch of Republicans, and so you know,
we have a long list of these celebrities that have
been supporting us and supporting our letters to the president
and supporting our initiatives. And right now I'm working with
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we get identifying his brother out of jail.
Speaker 8 (13:10):
Too, and I hope we're working to get Moon, the.
Speaker 5 (13:12):
Former Bapplely Records artist.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
I don't know.
Speaker 8 (13:14):
I'm out of jail, and.
Speaker 5 (13:15):
I'm really close to having him out. I think he'll
be out the next month.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
You're kidding, you know.
Speaker 5 (13:19):
If I've spent a year working on Lou's case and
we are over a year, year and a half.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
People are closing with Blues, we can give the audience
an update on that, that'd be dope. Well there it is, guys, Yeah,
for sure, holds right there. Well, then we'll be right
back after this brain.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
Welcome back to Cannabishop one on one. We're doing that
the high five that I actually messed that up. We're
actually through making waves still. It is this kind of
so interesting, love me some well that well, then he's
from the Welder Project and he also has a brand
called the Reform Cannabis is that correct?
Speaker 5 (13:57):
Yeah, Reform Cannabis is the brand long to help great
money for the Commissary councilor people who are still serving
time for cannabis. The Green is working to get them out.
So we want to be able to support them to
make them comfortable, and so we launched this brand back
in March.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
We Form Cannabis is putting in on the spread. Sure,
it's like what you put.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
In on that spread. You know about a spread, Joe Doug,
I did forty nine in those days I did.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
I didn't do thirteen years, but now forty nine under
my belt that I had to put up a break,
I could smile water please.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
For that bag a great thank God. You don't know
nothing about it. Yeah, it's not a fun thing to
know about. But if you know about it, you know
now about it? Yeah, bragg And I'm just saying that's
what happened in life, you know.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
I mean, all this is as perfect as you Craig Washer,
and I just never got caught.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
So well, so how does that work out?
Speaker 3 (14:48):
I mean, you guys donates a portion of the proceeds, uh,
and then you guys pick certain people that you're working
with that are incarcerated and then donate money to their
to their books, like for ti dollars signs brother from
the zappoy. I mean he might not need it because
he says his brother, but but things like that.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (15:07):
Yeah, So basically, you know, with the proceeds we get in,
we collect profiles. So we're trying to, you know, get
everybody in the federal prison system. But there's like three
thousand people, so it's gonna be tough to get them all.
And so we're gonna pick a group and then rotate
every month. And as the reform cannabis girls, so will
our giving and so will our advocacy. How do people
You're definitely gonna try to get them all?
Speaker 2 (15:28):
How do people find you?
Speaker 4 (15:29):
Someone's listening going, my cousin's locked up and you know
he only got hit with cannabis and maybe you know
you haven't seen this because well then project can't see
all of them, you know what I mean. But somebody
wants to reach out to you and throw you somebody
like my cousin pick got popped and he needs some help.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
How can you help him out?
Speaker 5 (15:46):
Yeah, they can go to our website and sign up
and that's one way to find us. And we're constantly
looking for people. The Sentencing Commission, you know, keeps stats
on how many people in there, and and so there's
the Bureau of Prisons. So sometimes we can find him
that way, or they come to our attention from you know,
reaching out to us. And these days, so many people
are sneaking cell phones in federal prison that we can
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we get calls sometimes from people in prison.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
You're getting a phone number, call him direct this guy for.
Speaker 5 (16:12):
A FaceTime and I'm like hello, and he's like, Yo,
what's up phone? Remember when he was back in the fans.
I'm like, what are you doing? He got a cell
phone in there? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Yeah, we've had that come up on our face on
our IG Live. You're kidding me.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
Yeah, they're on IG in prison. That is nuts, Andy.
So what's the website though, and.
Speaker 5 (16:27):
They reach out directly?
Speaker 4 (16:29):
Well, then what's the website for people to contact you guys?
Speaker 5 (16:35):
They can reach us on the Weldon project dot org
or on Project miss Green on Instagram.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Very nice.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
You know, let me ask you this, you know, do
you guys also just take donations in general, like i
mean other than just you know, yeah, it's great.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Yeah, we we we.
Speaker 5 (16:55):
And we all were trying to be cell sufficient where
we have our own products that keep us alive ourselves,
because you know, I get tired of doing the ask
and the bag and the cannabis company saying, oh, we
don't have any money, and you know, we know they
got it, but sometimes it's tough. So we want to
have our own products that we can support ourselves. But
we do take donations and there are a lot of
companies out there that do like to support us and
they're not keep Yeah, they really believe in the cause.
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So yeah, we do both all different kinds of fundraising.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
Fantastic the weldn project, his brand has reformed cannabis. Make
sure you check it out and support this as he's
supporting a lot of people that are locked up only
for cannabis. You did thirteen years for having nine hundred
dollars worth of cannabis.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Wow, that is unfreaking believable.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
And you're about to do fifty and got out surprisingly
after thirteen and now it's time to do the high
five with you.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Weldon.
Speaker 4 (17:44):
Question number one, how old are you the first time
he smoked weed? And where'd you get it from?
Speaker 5 (17:51):
I think I was thirteen years old, and I got
it from Pat's sister. You know, the chronic just came
out doctor Drew.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Of course.
Speaker 5 (17:58):
So they were talking about and I'm like, oh man,
I gotta try this. And you know it took off
from their older sister about my creative side. Yeah, she
was well older half you know, half sister. I knew
she smoked and stuff. So me and my friend got
on our bikes and we drove. We rode our bikes, like,
you know, an hour and a half away to go
and get us back.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
What is your favorite way to use cannabis?
Speaker 5 (18:22):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Flower, just a good old flower.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Question number three of the High Five with Weldon from
the Weldon Project Project Weldon, craziest place you've ever used
or smoked cannabis?
Speaker 5 (18:38):
Outside the White House?
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Sweet?
Speaker 2 (18:41):
That's how recent or how long ago?
Speaker 5 (18:44):
February?
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Did you actually meet Donald Trump there?
Speaker 5 (18:50):
Yeah? I mean I've been to the White House a
number of times to their Prisoner Reformed Summit, so we
met everyone there, Jared Kushner, Ivanka Trump, Mike Pince.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Did you smoke before or after you went in? We're
both yeah. Did you smoke before him going in? Smelling
like weed or did you.
Speaker 5 (19:04):
No, no, no, no, it was after. I just want
to do it because I seen Snoop do it, so
let me try it.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Yeah, that's ballsy.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
What's your go to munchies after you get high?
Speaker 5 (19:15):
After I get high? Probably chips? I love chips, man.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
Some kettle chips are like Dorito's walk us down. You
know I'm fat, so I need to hear all this.
Speaker 5 (19:25):
Oh yeahs the spicy Doritos spicy.
Speaker 8 (19:28):
If you could smoke with anyone dead or alive, who
would it be?
Speaker 5 (19:33):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Probably Puc Tupac? Tupac go ahead and rock you? Why Pac?
Very cool? Yeah? Why Chupac? Elaborate a little bit on that. Well,
then why Chupac?
Speaker 5 (19:48):
Just because you know, Tupac's my favorite, you know, person
of all time. You know, I think you know, he
was a big inspiration for me and a lot of people,
and I think, you know, the world's suck to abound him.
So definitely PARK like to smoke too. Already tapped out
Snoop Dogg, So you know I would like to tap
out pop. We tapped out Snoop Dogg with some lemon
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drop hullo two.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Well there it is weld and we want to thank
you for being on Cannabis Talk one on one and
make sure you check out the welding project. And you
know this guy support his cause. We really appreciate you man.
Thank you for making waves on Cannabis Talk one on one.
But we appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Man. How you meet a great cat like this? Oh
he's wonderful, right, that's some great work.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
Yeah, he's been, he's been, he's been representing and uh,
you know, it's it's it's amazing because I one of
my buddies introduced me to him, and you know, we
started to build a little bit of a relationship, and
you know, he started bringing a couple of the dispensary
owners through and and talking about the projects, and you know,
we we said, well, we'll donate some time and we'll
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go produce and some content with you and we'll help
you guys establish some stuff. And then you know, they
had an event and it kind of conflicted with another
event we had, and when he called me to book it,
we were already at like cwcbxpo and we were completely
contracted up and we're like, look, that's not a good
day for us, you know, and so we didn't do it,
and then today, you know, randomly, I was gonna do
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an article on somebody else and I was getting ready
to do it. And as soon as I pulled up
my my you know computer, just to start working on
about like eleven o'clock this afternoon, I got a text message.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
From with him on a thread and they're like.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
Hey, check out this new video we just did for
the welding project and everything else. And it's like how
you've been And we start talking and I'm like, you
know what like, and I wanted to surprise you guys,
you know, because I.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
Was a great story.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
Like I said, I seen it on national news like
a twenty twenty or something dateline.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
I said, that's viral, I mean, cooling everywhere. And I
he when he hit me today, I thought, dude, I'm
gonna do it about well. And then I got hey,
can you pop on today? And then I came in
and started and he said, yeah, call me back in
an hour. Let me check my time, because he was
clearly going somewhere else. And I said, you know, let's
I said, let's let's see if we can work this out.
I said, We've got the setup.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
In the in the studio now to bring you in
live and have you on the screens and still kind
of work with you.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
And I wanted to surprise you guys saw them like
this week making waves is and then and then bring
them in.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
And I was trying to tell Pitt and.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
They're like, dude, you got the keyboard and everything right
and funny, you could make it happen. So I was like, okay,
and then I thought about it. I go, you know,
we should just kind of talk about it and work
it out instead of trying it out the first time.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
It's still going to be hard to surprise any of
us at this point, maybe not Craig, because Craig will
walk in and still be lost.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Exactly what happened.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
You know What's funny though, and I want you guys,
and I know it's just fire and you hate it,
but to really sit back and think how many folks
are in there just for cannabis, and I mean in
there for prison.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Were this cab nine dude, It just it just it
just makes me freak out.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
For nine hundred dollars worth of cannabis for thirteen years serve.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
He was given fifty he served fifty five.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
That's what I'm saying. He was given fifty five and
he served. But that's that's Salt Lake City.
Speaker 8 (22:59):
For you though over there, right, so you no, no, no,
it's not Salt Lake City. It was he got a
federal beef. It's like his friends who had a dispensary
in Modesto. It's back in eight they were still rating
dispensaries even though they were legal under California law.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
At the federal level, it was not a defense.
Speaker 8 (23:16):
You couldn't use the state laws as a defense at
the federal level. So people were still getting put in
federal prisons due to marijuana in each state.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Yeah, and marijuana only. Well, it's you know, you know,
it's weird.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
Is one of my one of my buddies is you know,
he's probably I don't know, thirty now, thirty five probably
actually now it's about thirty five years old.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
And he got caught.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
With twenty pounds of cannabis, right, and and I you know,
at the time, this is year years ago when he
got caught and they you know, all of a sudden,
I get a phone call and he's like, hey, you know,
I'm getting deported and I'm like what, dude, Like, I
grew up with this kid you know. I mean we've
been didn't even know he's illegal. I didn't even know
he's illegal. And he's like, yeah did. He's like, I mean,
(24:00):
I was born here, but you know, they're deporting me.
And I'm like, Doug, you're deporting you? What do you
mean like they're deporting you? And he's like, I was like,
you're an American citizen. You were born on our soil.
He's like, no, it doesn't work that way, you know.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
And I'm like, what you sure? I thought it did?
I thought it did. Yeah, yeah, no, he was like,
I'm not immigration lawyer.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
Well it is okay, but if your parents are not
and and you break a federal ball, okay, then they
can revoke it from you.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
I don't think. So this happened to his boy, So
I mean, I'm gonna have to.
Speaker 8 (24:29):
Enough to find out, because that's that's how I've.
Speaker 4 (24:31):
Necessard anadotic evidence right here. Yeah whatever, you know what
I meant.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
So, So anyways, you know, so he's calling me and
he's stressing out and blah blah blah. Maybe he was
he was born in Hunduras and I was wrong, you know,
and he was brought here as as a baby.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
But he's been here his whole life, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
I mean I've known him since we were seven and
he was born, you know what I mean. Like he
was running round his my buddy's little brother, and I've
seen him grow up his whole life. So I mean,
he's been here his whole life. And long story short
is they were deporting him because he had twenty pounds,
and you know, I kept saying, can I tell you out,
you know, and get you out because you know he's like, oh,
they're you know, they're denying my bell. This is not
(25:13):
over twenty pounds a weed. I mean, it's like, you know,
there's people that do way worse shit than that, And
to just start deporting people, and this kid's been here
his whole entire life, doesn't even know anybody back home.
I mean, he had like he's like, I got an
ant out there, I'm gonna go. Yeah, I'm gonna go
meet her, you know what I'm saying. And I'm just
like thirty five a canna crash on your couch.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
So I went and visited him, dude, and and you know,
I hung out with them, and you know, he ended
up getting bailed out. And then he fought the case
for so long and they ended up not deporting him, but.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
They made a huge stake out of it. I mean
he did like a year in jail. I mean it
was it was quite a bit of time.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
But he didn't do fifty five years over him over
nine hundred.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
I don't know how he ended up with that. Maybe
had a gun on or something too.
Speaker 8 (25:58):
No, no, that's just a federal theren't want a laws
as opposed to your state.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
But how did he get hit with the federal Like,
how do you get kicked up by federal.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
On the nine hundred dollars?
Speaker 5 (26:06):
Bad?
Speaker 2 (26:06):
I mean, what did they It was a sting. They
didn't care who they were stinging. Oh, because they were
stinging the the United state level.
Speaker 8 (26:12):
Something happened in the state. Instead of the state police
stay on a stinger rating the dispenser they had the
federal government. The DA was coming in knocking.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Down doors, got you. So when they come in, they
hit you with the federal crime wreck And that's what
he did.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
Bedtime to wreck and he hit chopped with fifty five
years at bedtime. Yees, pay, you're doing fifty There ain't
no halftime or.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
He hit thirteen. You know, no, I know what that
they got a billion dollars. People were stealing jail, but
the laws changed while he was there. They got him
out on different clausets. Well, there is guys. Canada's Talk
one a one will be right back after this.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
Welcome back to Cannabis Talk one oh one, where Craig
Washington is just next.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
To me with the most gass they've ever had, and
all we got a lot. I got, you know what
I've got to that jet fuel.
Speaker 4 (27:03):
I said, you can leaves, man, you don't want to leave.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
I've got the gas all day. Doctor say, do you
know what the gas is? No? I don't know, Bat,
that's why you can smoke you game. You don't know what?
Ye why I don't know what we're asking about? Doctors
we're talking about?
Speaker 4 (27:19):
Well, because he's sitting here going to the doctors earlier.
The guy's grabbing his stomach like he's got punched to
the guts and I'm worried about it. I shake that.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
But you know what, there's no time for that. We
got work to do. So there's pre man. You know,
he's talking about gas like he's smoking gas. That I
hope you go then I got something to bring up
to you guys, and I want your take on this.
Speaker 7 (27:38):
Now.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
A group of sixteen experts.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
Basically they're putting together like a Kaiser permanent, right, so
like a pharmaceutical not a farmer, a hospital style place.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
It's putting together a federal agency. And they recommended that.
Speaker 4 (27:51):
Primary care doctors screen their patience for unhealthy drug use.
Makes sense, right, I want to see if somebody has
heroin in their system, maybe a little meth amphetamines. But
why are they considering putting cannabis as an unhealthy drug
in there when tobacco and are not being accepted.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
It's a group of sixtects.
Speaker 4 (28:15):
The expert the US Department of Health and Human Services,
the US exactly so I can get into all the
big details with that.
Speaker 8 (28:23):
Why that's not the individuals, but who's putting it on?
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Yes, that's it right me, the US Department of Health
and Human seers.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
They're never going to con that I want to call
I think it might be contradictive because I do believe
that they do.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
They ask you every time you go see that do
you drink and do you smoke? Well?
Speaker 8 (28:37):
No, you know what's fucked up is I mean, you
know whatco I've never asked doing a Prop sixty five
in California, explain a little more, please. Prop sixty five
is the initiative, is the proposition, that's the law that
says you have to list everything that could kill you
on a you know, the what is it the vapors
at the gas station going to be harmful? You're in
McDonald's and it says something about whatever vapors. So they
(29:03):
added cannabis. Cannabis is on the list as it could
kill you.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
It What did they say, what's the reason smoking could
be harmful to your health? You know what that's for smoking?
Speaker 8 (29:12):
If it's anything could be harmful to your health, not
not one, not one other drug or chemical that's listed
in Prop sixty five can actually help you. Cannabis can
help you. How it has to be on that much
of it? You know, we're not saying that, they're just
I think they're just categorizing it in the bad chemical
(29:34):
you know, in the bad chemical batch.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Yeah, they're just adding adding, you know, ship to the shame.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
So so I think what it comes to, though, Craig, though,
is that when you can bust cannabis and the smoke
you know, the actual action of smoking, which is probably
the most harmful way to ingest cannabis, is by a
straight smoking. It is why they're doing it, and it's
just safety, you know. I would say, you know, I
don't think it's the end of the world, world, but
(30:02):
I certainly do think they should have more of an
information on there about that. Although when you say what
you just said, Craig and more information Blue, I'm actually
switching and converting a little bit because I'm thinking going
if anybody smokes that inflames their lungs period, there's no
question about what they're smoking.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
It inflames the lungs period.
Speaker 4 (30:25):
Now, what I'm smoking may help some other things, but
I'm still inflaming my lungs while I'm smoking something that's
helping something else and might even help my lungs later
as well. The point to the moral is if it
inflames the lungs and could cause harm, which is more
research that we need to prove this. I think they're
(30:45):
going off of maybe that theory alone, because show me
the death of the man woman that died from smoking weed.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
It's probably there sugar sugar, sugar sugar warning sign, big
old thing going there because if.
Speaker 4 (31:02):
This creates diabetes, creates losing your limbs, creates dying on there,
that's a great point. That's a great point. Donalds, isn't
on there, you fat obese basket and keep they're not
on there?
Speaker 3 (31:15):
I mean you're you're right. I would actually question that night,
and I don't. I think we should sue them.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
I think we.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
Should do a class action lawsuit for not being on
there's just spearheaded.
Speaker 4 (31:25):
Let's do It's a good point.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
The counter back like, why why can't you? You can
you can do whatever you want. Is it the US
to everything?
Speaker 8 (31:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (31:36):
Yeah, just ask them all for a hundred grand and
just go after the US. They know what the way
we do things.
Speaker 8 (31:42):
Some lawyers would go yeah, yeah, yeah, let's do it
and then you lose. We would say you're probably gonna lose.
But if you want to do it, I'll take the money.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
That's how you do it, That's how we do it.
You wouldn't you just taking money? Wouldn't do for your
your Puerto Rican brother here? No, because you're probably gonna lose.
Why why? Why? I mean it's sugar, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (31:59):
If we talk about this, there's other things that you
guys can be putting tags on why cannabis?
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Where's the proof? Where's the proof? That's what I mean,
the proof. Do we there's the meat? Do we see
the stable? You look like that old lady for Wendy's.
I don't know who you'd see. I really don't know.
Speaker 4 (32:14):
I don't know you wouldn't you see the US Department
of Health and Human Services called.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
The US Providence Services Tasks in California. It's like, who
the fuck are these guys? You exactly? That's what it
sounds like.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
You know, well listen, I mean you know, but I
bet you if you put candy in cannabis, they're going
to make you put all those tags on it.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
But if you make candy with you know.
Speaker 4 (32:37):
Sugar, the candy now will kill you because it has
cannabis and the sugar in it.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
But they never said it when it had the sugar
in there.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
They kill you because sugar is one of the most
addicting drugs in the world.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Oh my god. I look around you look around. You
look at all the people. There's soda that you might
be drinking right now.
Speaker 8 (32:54):
Well they you know, well it can change because I
don't do that area of the loss. I really didn't know,
but it just in my head that when they probably
five came out, caffeine was on the list that had
to be disclosed.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Oh I love Starbucks. I mean there was.
Speaker 8 (33:09):
A huge backlash and they ended up taking that off
the list.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Wow, Craig, So we do have a lawsuit?
Speaker 1 (33:16):
We do?
Speaker 2 (33:17):
We do? I think we should take it to the
Supreme Court. Let me tell you. I'll tell you what though.
Speaker 8 (33:22):
This Supreme Court, I'm not so sure.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
No, we're going to do it right here today. We're
going to take a vote. Okay where the court where
the court comment comments?
Speaker 8 (33:30):
Right here?
Speaker 3 (33:30):
No, so the judge and the jury are the people
out there, and they're gonna call and leave a comment. Okay,
give him that number, joke.
Speaker 4 (33:36):
It's really easy to call and leave a comment. The
phone number is eight hundred four to twenty nineteen eighty.
That's eight hundred four to twenty nineteen eighty. Leave a comment.
And if you've watched any of the shows recently, you'll
see how great Craig Washerman looks once he got his
hair dye and cut that damn go tee down a
little bit a little bit.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
I know, you like like like three feet at least
three feet. Yeah, he looked like zz Top. He looked
like zz Top's gardener. I had for a while. I
had that right here. I gotta throw something else by
you guys.
Speaker 4 (34:09):
And you know, as we talk about money and suing
a company marijuana, mso Justy buys. They're called justin. Excuse me,
excuse me just she not justin My eyes are going bad.
Msoeshi j u s h I. Boys, they buy a
facility in Pennsylvania for thirty seven million dollars cannabis.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
So it just goes to show me how that works.
Speaker 4 (34:31):
Well, you know what, This is what I'm going to
get you to the point, Craig and I hear you.
Let's see how it works out. But the point I
want to make the people out there is what Blues.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
Been preaching from Jump Street.
Speaker 4 (34:42):
Start your fucking business, folks, if you're thinking about doing it.
This guy that started his business in Pennsylvania, guess what
he for thirty seven million dollars.
Speaker 8 (34:51):
Wait a minute, Wait a minute.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
I hate to be the old grumpy you know, come
with it.
Speaker 4 (34:55):
Are you always working in the details, but the devil's
in the detail.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
How much is cash and how much stock, well.
Speaker 4 (35:01):
It does, I don't know the funds and the purchase
that's Jesse secured. So that company secured fifteen point twenty
five million in debt financial that was led by insiders
and existing shareholders. The accusation involves a purchase of Pennsylvania
Medical Medical Solutions, a licensed medical marijuana grower processor at
a Scranton owned by you don't.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
I don't know. I'm trying.
Speaker 4 (35:24):
I wish I would have known that answer, but I
don't know. Bottom line, it's a nine ninety thousand square
foot location cultivation, you know. And my point to the
story is, and why I like to go green with
something like this is I've heard Blue preach this, teach this.
We work with people, we encourage people, and as you Craig,
work with people to start businesses. But say it that
(35:46):
it costs a lot of money. And those who do
guess what. I don't think the business that this person
sold cost to them thirty seven.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
Million dollars to create.
Speaker 4 (35:55):
I could be wrong, No, I could be wrong, but
I don't think I am. So my point moral and
maybe my point and mold of the story is maybe
you know, way you never know that.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
Ninety thousand square foot building. It's covered more than a
hundred ground but it's in Pennsylvania. But no, here's you
still got them.
Speaker 4 (36:11):
Here's the guy that actually started Man started zero.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
You might have followed money like Trump, he got involved
today with the difference I'm noting now.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
He's on an architect. He found a grower and he's
put the pieces to the plug. Hey, what's wrong with
you and other people up then? And by the way,
I see it right here at Craig, let me answer
your question.
Speaker 4 (36:34):
Paying sixteen point three million dollars in cash, paying three
point eight million seller notes and eight percent.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Interest with curing in four years. Assume a seventeen million
dollars facility association with a long term complication. So that's
what we're looking at it. And you know what, very good, Joe,
Thank you for clearing that up.
Speaker 4 (36:51):
No doubt.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
I try to give you the research that they're acting for.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
You know what, Craig ready, and there it is, guys,
Canada Talk one on one, remember the off podcast, leave
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Speaker 1 (37:02):
Thank you for listening to Cannabis Talk one on one
on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast or wherever you get
your podcasts.
It's now time for Cannabis Talk one oh one with Blue,
Joe Grande and Mark and Craig Wasserman the Pot Brothers
at Law. We're the world's number one podcast for everything cannabis.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Welcome to Cannabis Talk one on one.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
My name is Blue, alongside a man of the world
famous Pot Brothers in Law and mister Joe Grande. Hello,
my brother, and we are now tuned into the greatest
cannabis show on the planet the universe.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
I say, the galaxy. I say, we get right into it.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
Oh and let's finish with Mark, or you know, let's
start with Mark. Actually, Mark, you're on your way to
the hospital, but you wanted to tell us a story
and that beat us on a case that you've been
working on that you came in here so frantically one
day screaming about a gentleman that was about to lose
his children because the mother in law ratted him out
to say, he jokes cannabis, yes, and.
Speaker 5 (00:50):
He uses medicinal cannabis. And this case happened up in Quartererhills.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
California, I believe, and he actually.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
The judge order is be taken away.
Speaker 6 (01:02):
Because he uses medicinal cannabis, and I told him we
were going to try to find him an attorney to
help fight up in that area. So just yesterday I
got a call from Melissa Fox, and you might remember her.
Speaker 7 (01:20):
She's a city councilwoman for the city of Irvine.
Speaker 6 (01:23):
Who me and my brother a few years back campaigned
for and helped get her elected.
Speaker 5 (01:28):
She called us up. She's running for state Assembly and
was looking for some oupin back.
Speaker 6 (01:34):
We're going to interview her, but she started telling me
about her friend, this woman, Lauren Johnson, who's an attorney
that she's working with on a lot of things, who
just had a case that was on appeal in California.
Speaker 5 (01:47):
She won, and it was the first case on appeal.
Speaker 7 (01:51):
To overturn that a person cannot have their parental rights
taken away just because they use medical candid So I
referred this guy to her, and now they're gonna be fighting.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
And what do you know when they're gonna be talking,
are you done with this case at all?
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Or what's what's like?
Speaker 5 (02:12):
I'll be following up. They're gonna keep me following up.
Speaker 6 (02:15):
He talked to her, I think yesterday, and as soon
as I get more information, I will keep everybody informed
and we'll follow up well.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Keep us posted.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
And you're going to the hospital, make sure you give
Pack a big hug from all of us, as I
know you're gonna go see a good friend of ours
and you're happy to be his attorney.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Our prayers are with with with you, him and his family,
I mean everybody especially you know, uh, the severity of
what's going on with with Pac and you know we
we we want to.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
You know, Pax strong.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
I don't know who's worse right now, Maybe Craig, you
could help me out with this. Is Pack worse or
is Mark worse for dealing with this? Because your brother's
been on end so much? At least Pack still has
his personality. He's lifting up his you know, garment. He's
having fun. Your brother hasn't had fun ever since his
Accident's having He's been a mess.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
How are you guys communicating Mark?
Speaker 8 (03:02):
I mean, I'm going to do what I gotta do,
so I'll check all right, let us know how it goes.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Check with us later. Send out a love please by
give him a pint from us? All right? All right? So,
so Blue, what do we got going on? Who's making waves? Brother?
Speaker 3 (03:16):
So if you're looking to find out who's making waves
in the world of cannabis. Cannabis Talk one on one
is the place to be, Yes, it is. So we
have an amazing guest for you guys today. His name
is Weldon Angelus, right, Weldon correct, Welcome to the show.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Weldon, how are you today?
Speaker 5 (03:30):
What's up man?
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Thanks for having me, no doubt man. So, Weldon has
the Weldon the Weldon Project. It's to help people that
are currently incarcerated, right, And can you share that with us.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
A little bit.
Speaker 7 (03:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (03:43):
So when I got obviously I did time in prison
for cannabis. Myself served thirteen years on a fifty five
year sentence for nine dollars worth of cannabis. And I
got out, now you know what I'm saying. Yeah, when
I got out, you know, because of President Obama's clemency program,
and I had a lot of people pulling for me,
like Booker, Senator Mike Lee, the Koch Brothers, even We're
(04:03):
pushing for me. And I got out and I hit
the ground run, and I started working with the White
House and numerous senators and celebrities, and we got the
first criminal justice reform passed since nineteen seventy in the
federal system. However, it didn't affect anyone in prison for
cannabis cases. So when after we passed out, you know,
we were celebrating in the White House, I thought of
my friends who were in prison for operating a medical
(04:25):
dispensary in California who got twenty two years, And so
I lost the welding project. And our first initiative is
Mission Green, and Mission Green is dedicated solely to the
freedom of people in prison for cannabis.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Wow, congratulations, I've seen your story.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
You've been on like several news like you've been on
national news stuff as well. Right, I've heard this story before. Yeah,
I hear what you're doing and doing. How do you
figure out who you're gonna help as far as is
it only cannabis or if it's cannabis and they had
methodphetamines and a gun, how do you narrow that down?
Speaker 5 (04:56):
Well, so, right now we're focused on purely cannabis cases
because we feel like they're the low hanging fruit, and
especially with this president, it's not as easy getting clemency
as it was under Obama, and so we're trying to
narrow it down to like the easiest group of people,
Like we got a guy named Luke who was just
operating a medical dispensary modesto two thousand and eight. He
was indicted following state law. He didn't commit any other crimes.
(05:19):
He got twenty two years. And so we're looking for
people that fit this criteria and we're taking him to
the President. I have a relationship with the White House,
and we're asking for clemency for this category. And we
believe this will send a message to Congress that they
need broader reform to affect other people who may not
have such compelling cases.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Now do you find that that you know you're getting?
I mean, I guess you can't move the ball fast enough, right,
I mean, but is a small process or is this
a process that's Have you guys been successful yet, you know,
with obviously getting people like yourself out, I mean yeah.
Speaker 5 (05:52):
I mean we got the guy I mentioned. His name's
Luke Scarmazzo. We were able to get his Cody fin
and out Ricardo Montes, they had the same case, and
I filed their clemency petitions to the President. One was granted,
one was denied. And so it's that random selection, you
know that we're trying to change because you know, right now,
the people who are deciding these cases are the prosecutors.
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And so this president, you know, despite what people may
think of him, he created a clemency committee that takes
the discretion from the Department of Justice, who's the one
that put us there in the first place, and putting
it in a group of thirteen individuals who are some
formally incarcerated and people who are in politics in different areas,
and they are bypassing the DOJ and deciding these cases directly,
(06:35):
and so I believe things will start speeding up. Now.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
I love hearing that about Donald Trump, to tell you
the truth, and I'm not a fan. I'm not going
to front nacock, am, but I love hearing you share
a good story because I want to hear more good
stories about this dude.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Why I'm happy to hear that, why did the committee?
Speaker 8 (06:49):
Do they make any decision or say why they let
one guy off? The same exactly facts for the committee
that was the DOJ gotch Now the people that.
Speaker 5 (06:58):
Put you in prison have the decision and whether or
not you get clemency because the presidents, they haven't traditionally
granted clemency unless the prosecutor stamped it right now. Trump
took that away from them and created an independent committee
that will look at these petitions, vote on him, and
send them up to the White House Council for approval.
Speaker 8 (07:16):
How many of you presented under that format yet? If any,
I mean we present.
Speaker 5 (07:21):
They've passed already thirty and we're just waiting on those
to come down. Well, just in February, I went to
the White House and hand delivered a letter to the
President asking him to start commuting these individual cases like Luke's.
And right after that, a female who was serving twenty
years for cannabis. She had served fifteen years and she
was released. But then COVID hit us, and so I
(07:41):
believe that kind of slowed it down. But I do
believe that we will see more cases coming. And we're
also working in the courts too. You know, we passed
some legislation that allowed judges to give these cases a
second look, and we're using Luke's as a test case
for that.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
Cool we're talking to weldn from the Well Done Project
and he's making waves of blue and this guy amazing
what he's doing. Well, then, are you a lawyer by
any chance, as you served your of the thirteen years
in prison, did you get your degree in prison?
Speaker 5 (08:08):
No? I got a lot of people out of jail, though,
and so you know, I just stayed. I had fifty
five years, so I didn't know if I was ever
getting now. So I buried myself in law books and
you know, and I got a lot of people. I
couldn't get myself out, but I was able to create
a coalition that eventually resulted in my release. Where a lawyer,
but I'm good.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Where are you located at? What area?
Speaker 5 (08:28):
Salt Lake City, Utah.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
That's beautiful what you're doing. And I'm just wondering. I
got these two lawyers that I do a show with
called The Cannabis Talk one on one. I'm wondering if
you could teach them how to get people out of prison,
because they're real lawyers.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
And can't do shit for people. Definitely, I'm not sure
who he's talking to.
Speaker 5 (08:45):
Strategies.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
I will not be disrespected. I'm not talking about you.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Let's ask this, well, then, why why do you think
the president you know, created that policy you know what,
or allowed that policy to pass?
Speaker 2 (08:57):
What do you think his thought process was.
Speaker 5 (08:58):
Behind that you talk about the committee or the first
step back, the legislation.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
The committee, the committee.
Speaker 5 (09:04):
Well, you know, he's not a typical politician, and typical
politicians look at things like will this affect my reelection?
Will this affect my legacy. Given that he's not a
typical politician, he doesn't care. He doesn't factor those into
his decision making. You know, he looks to the people pleaser.
And so a lot of people have taken this to
his attention and shown how unjust this the system is.
(09:25):
Like Alice Mrie Johnson, who Kim Kardashian successfully lobbied the
president to let out. The pardon office denied her petition
like four times twice under Obama, once under Bush, and
once under Trump. And so you know that was evidence
alone that this old grandmother who was in there for
a non violent drug offense should have been out years ago,
and she had a life sentence. So he looked at
(09:45):
it like, Okay, this system is messed up. Let's form
our own committee and let's look at these ourselves. And
I think it's a good thing. Even if we let
out some of his his homeboys or some of his affiliates,
if we get out a lot of other people. It's
worth it to me.
Speaker 8 (09:58):
Now, No, I'll tell you I agree, you know what,
if it works and gets people out one But I
disagree on his motives. His motives, I think are everybody
has denied this. Lady Kim Kardashian's come to me, this
is gonna look so good.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Look what I did for her. If that results, if
that result he's getting in this Donald Trump is gonna
look so if.
Speaker 8 (10:19):
That results in people getting out, then I really don't
care what his motive is. I don't really care. I
think it's great and if that's what it takes for
him at this point in time, at the place he is,
for him to every politician though.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
Craig, I mean, was there too. Obama would have been
the same thing. Obama didn't let her go either. But
my point is everyone had that.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
Kim didn't bring him to the table though, you know
what I mean, Had Kim Kardashian walked up.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Coming at you.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Irashians, man, they're doing a great job. So so well
then you know, starting the welding project, obviously, I would
imagine you know, in your doing fifty years, you know,
thirteen years, you got a lot of time to think right. So,
so in that thirteen years period of time, did you
create it inside the tank or did you come out
of it creating it? I mean, where did it? Where
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was it birthed? And then you know who's involved with
you in it? Now?
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Are you solo? How's that working out? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (11:17):
No, Actually I created when I got out of jail.
You know, I didn't know I would be getting out
when I did, and it was sort of sudden. And
so when I got out, you know, I started producing
the documentary. You know, that was the first thing we did,
just to kind of raise awareness. And then I ended
up at the White House and meeting with doing panels
with Corey Booker and Mike Lee and the Koch brothers.
I felt like I should use my influence and my
connections to effect change. And so, you know, one of
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my former partners in the music industry, Big Hollis, worked
with me to create this nonprofit. We have other people
involved in this, including celebrities and athletes and political figures,
and you know, we're trying to take this to the
next level. And for instance, recently we just welcomed Stormy
signon the pharmacy yield High Times to the team and
so you know, we're really excited and we're growing, and
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especially right now with everything that's coming out, like we
really need to push this and we're trying to get
the industry behind us because we could do a lot
with the connections that we have.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
You know, we we we like Stormy Sigmon's we just great.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
We just had her on the show recently, so that's
a you know, great move for you guys as well.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
She's also going to be running for something in.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
The office out there in Idaho.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
You yeah, ning for office.
Speaker 5 (12:23):
Yeah, yeah, change because you know, we have a medical
marijuana law out here and it's crap. Like we had
a ballot initiative that was amazing and the legislature tore
it up. And I think that's part of the motivation
for wanting to run for office here.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
So let's talk about some of the celebrities that got
behind you, because I know Snoop Dogg, there's I mean,
there's a ton of mic and you give us a
handful of the names and kind of what they're their involvement,
their involvement.
Speaker 5 (12:48):
Yeah yeah, Kg's you know, he got behind us, and
you know we had a dandy treo, you know, just
a ton of people. We even had former Governor Gary
Johnson and a bunch of Republicans, and so you know,
we have a long list of these celebrities that have
been supporting us and supporting our letters to the president
and supporting our initiatives. And right now I'm working with
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we get identifying his brother out of jail.
Speaker 8 (13:10):
Too, and I hope we're working to get Moon, the.
Speaker 5 (13:12):
Former Bapplely Records artist.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
I don't know.
Speaker 8 (13:14):
I'm out of jail, and.
Speaker 5 (13:15):
I'm really close to having him out. I think he'll
be out the next month.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
You're kidding, you know.
Speaker 5 (13:19):
If I've spent a year working on Lou's case and
we are over a year, year and a half.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
People are closing with Blues, we can give the audience
an update on that, that'd be dope. Well there it is, guys, Yeah,
for sure, holds right there. Well, then we'll be right
back after this brain.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
Welcome back to Cannabishop one on one. We're doing that
the high five that I actually messed that up. We're
actually through making waves still. It is this kind of
so interesting, love me some well that well, then he's
from the Welder Project and he also has a brand
called the Reform Cannabis is that correct?
Speaker 5 (13:57):
Yeah, Reform Cannabis is the brand long to help great
money for the Commissary councilor people who are still serving
time for cannabis. The Green is working to get them out.
So we want to be able to support them to
make them comfortable, and so we launched this brand back
in March.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
We Form Cannabis is putting in on the spread. Sure,
it's like what you put.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
In on that spread. You know about a spread, Joe Doug,
I did forty nine in those days I did.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
I didn't do thirteen years, but now forty nine under
my belt that I had to put up a break,
I could smile water please.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
For that bag a great thank God. You don't know
nothing about it. Yeah, it's not a fun thing to
know about. But if you know about it, you know
now about it? Yeah, bragg And I'm just saying that's
what happened in life, you know.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
I mean, all this is as perfect as you Craig Washer,
and I just never got caught.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
So well, so how does that work out?
Speaker 3 (14:48):
I mean, you guys donates a portion of the proceeds, uh,
and then you guys pick certain people that you're working
with that are incarcerated and then donate money to their
to their books, like for ti dollars signs brother from
the zappoy. I mean he might not need it because
he says his brother, but but things like that.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (15:07):
Yeah, So basically, you know, with the proceeds we get in,
we collect profiles. So we're trying to, you know, get
everybody in the federal prison system. But there's like three
thousand people, so it's gonna be tough to get them all.
And so we're gonna pick a group and then rotate
every month. And as the reform cannabis girls, so will
our giving and so will our advocacy. How do people
You're definitely gonna try to get them all?
Speaker 2 (15:28):
How do people find you?
Speaker 4 (15:29):
Someone's listening going, my cousin's locked up and you know
he only got hit with cannabis and maybe you know
you haven't seen this because well then project can't see
all of them, you know what I mean. But somebody
wants to reach out to you and throw you somebody
like my cousin pick got popped and he needs some help.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
How can you help him out?
Speaker 5 (15:46):
Yeah, they can go to our website and sign up
and that's one way to find us. And we're constantly
looking for people. The Sentencing Commission, you know, keeps stats
on how many people in there, and and so there's
the Bureau of Prisons. So sometimes we can find him
that way, or they come to our attention from you know,
reaching out to us. And these days, so many people
are sneaking cell phones in federal prison that we can
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we get calls sometimes from people in prison.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
You're getting a phone number, call him direct this guy for.
Speaker 5 (16:12):
A FaceTime and I'm like hello, and he's like, Yo,
what's up phone? Remember when he was back in the fans.
I'm like, what are you doing? He got a cell
phone in there? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Yeah, we've had that come up on our face on
our IG Live. You're kidding me.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
Yeah, they're on IG in prison. That is nuts, Andy.
So what's the website though, and.
Speaker 5 (16:27):
They reach out directly?
Speaker 4 (16:29):
Well, then what's the website for people to contact you guys?
Speaker 5 (16:35):
They can reach us on the Weldon project dot org
or on Project miss Green on Instagram.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Very nice.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
You know, let me ask you this, you know, do
you guys also just take donations in general, like i
mean other than just you know, yeah, it's great.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Yeah, we we we.
Speaker 5 (16:55):
And we all were trying to be cell sufficient where
we have our own products that keep us alive ourselves,
because you know, I get tired of doing the ask
and the bag and the cannabis company saying, oh, we
don't have any money, and you know, we know they
got it, but sometimes it's tough. So we want to
have our own products that we can support ourselves. But
we do take donations and there are a lot of
companies out there that do like to support us and
they're not keep Yeah, they really believe in the cause.
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So yeah, we do both all different kinds of fundraising.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
Fantastic the weldn project, his brand has reformed cannabis. Make
sure you check it out and support this as he's
supporting a lot of people that are locked up only
for cannabis. You did thirteen years for having nine hundred
dollars worth of cannabis.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Wow, that is unfreaking believable.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
And you're about to do fifty and got out surprisingly
after thirteen and now it's time to do the high
five with you.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Weldon.
Speaker 4 (17:44):
Question number one, how old are you the first time
he smoked weed? And where'd you get it from?
Speaker 5 (17:51):
I think I was thirteen years old, and I got
it from Pat's sister. You know, the chronic just came
out doctor Drew.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Of course.
Speaker 5 (17:58):
So they were talking about and I'm like, oh man,
I gotta try this. And you know it took off
from their older sister about my creative side. Yeah, she
was well older half you know, half sister. I knew
she smoked and stuff. So me and my friend got
on our bikes and we drove. We rode our bikes, like,
you know, an hour and a half away to go
and get us back.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
What is your favorite way to use cannabis?
Speaker 5 (18:22):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Flower, just a good old flower.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Question number three of the High Five with Weldon from
the Weldon Project Project Weldon, craziest place you've ever used
or smoked cannabis?
Speaker 5 (18:38):
Outside the White House?
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Sweet?
Speaker 2 (18:41):
That's how recent or how long ago?
Speaker 5 (18:44):
February?
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Did you actually meet Donald Trump there?
Speaker 5 (18:50):
Yeah? I mean I've been to the White House a
number of times to their Prisoner Reformed Summit, so we
met everyone there, Jared Kushner, Ivanka Trump, Mike Pince.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Did you smoke before or after you went in? We're
both yeah. Did you smoke before him going in? Smelling
like weed or did you.
Speaker 5 (19:04):
No, no, no, no, it was after. I just want
to do it because I seen Snoop do it, so
let me try it.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Yeah, that's ballsy.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
What's your go to munchies after you get high?
Speaker 5 (19:15):
After I get high? Probably chips? I love chips, man.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
Some kettle chips are like Dorito's walk us down. You
know I'm fat, so I need to hear all this.
Speaker 5 (19:25):
Oh yeahs the spicy Doritos spicy.
Speaker 8 (19:28):
If you could smoke with anyone dead or alive, who
would it be?
Speaker 5 (19:33):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Probably Puc Tupac? Tupac go ahead and rock you? Why Pac?
Very cool? Yeah? Why Chupac? Elaborate a little bit on that. Well,
then why Chupac?
Speaker 5 (19:48):
Just because you know, Tupac's my favorite, you know, person
of all time. You know, I think you know, he
was a big inspiration for me and a lot of people,
and I think, you know, the world's suck to abound him.
So definitely PARK like to smoke too. Already tapped out
Snoop Dogg, So you know I would like to tap
out pop. We tapped out Snoop Dogg with some lemon
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drop hullo two.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Well there it is weld and we want to thank
you for being on Cannabis Talk one on one and
make sure you check out the welding project. And you
know this guy support his cause. We really appreciate you man.
Thank you for making waves on Cannabis Talk one on one.
But we appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Man. How you meet a great cat like this? Oh
he's wonderful, right, that's some great work.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
Yeah, he's been, he's been, he's been representing and uh,
you know, it's it's it's amazing because I one of
my buddies introduced me to him, and you know, we
started to build a little bit of a relationship, and
you know, he started bringing a couple of the dispensary
owners through and and talking about the projects, and you know,
we we said, well, we'll donate some time and we'll
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go produce and some content with you and we'll help
you guys establish some stuff. And then you know, they
had an event and it kind of conflicted with another
event we had, and when he called me to book it,
we were already at like cwcbxpo and we were completely
contracted up and we're like, look, that's not a good
day for us, you know, and so we didn't do it,
and then today, you know, randomly, I was gonna do
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an article on somebody else and I was getting ready
to do it. And as soon as I pulled up
my my you know computer, just to start working on
about like eleven o'clock this afternoon, I got a text message.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
From with him on a thread and they're like.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
Hey, check out this new video we just did for
the welding project and everything else. And it's like how
you've been And we start talking and I'm like, you
know what like, and I wanted to surprise you guys,
you know, because I.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
Was a great story.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
Like I said, I seen it on national news like
a twenty twenty or something dateline.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
I said, that's viral, I mean, cooling everywhere. And I
he when he hit me today, I thought, dude, I'm
gonna do it about well. And then I got hey,
can you pop on today? And then I came in
and started and he said, yeah, call me back in
an hour. Let me check my time, because he was
clearly going somewhere else. And I said, you know, let's
I said, let's let's see if we can work this out.
I said, We've got the setup.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
In the in the studio now to bring you in
live and have you on the screens and still kind
of work with you.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
And I wanted to surprise you guys saw them like
this week making waves is and then and then bring
them in.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
And I was trying to tell Pitt and.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
They're like, dude, you got the keyboard and everything right
and funny, you could make it happen. So I was like, okay,
and then I thought about it. I go, you know,
we should just kind of talk about it and work
it out instead of trying it out the first time.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
It's still going to be hard to surprise any of
us at this point, maybe not Craig, because Craig will
walk in and still be lost.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Exactly what happened.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
You know What's funny though, and I want you guys,
and I know it's just fire and you hate it,
but to really sit back and think how many folks
are in there just for cannabis, and I mean in
there for prison.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Were this cab nine dude, It just it just it
just makes me freak out.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
For nine hundred dollars worth of cannabis for thirteen years serve.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
He was given fifty he served fifty five.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
That's what I'm saying. He was given fifty five and
he served. But that's that's Salt Lake City.
Speaker 8 (22:59):
For you though over there, right, so you no, no, no,
it's not Salt Lake City. It was he got a
federal beef. It's like his friends who had a dispensary
in Modesto. It's back in eight they were still rating
dispensaries even though they were legal under California law.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
At the federal level, it was not a defense.
Speaker 8 (23:16):
You couldn't use the state laws as a defense at
the federal level. So people were still getting put in
federal prisons due to marijuana in each state.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Yeah, and marijuana only. Well, it's you know, you know,
it's weird.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
Is one of my one of my buddies is you know,
he's probably I don't know, thirty now, thirty five probably
actually now it's about thirty five years old.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
And he got caught.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
With twenty pounds of cannabis, right, and and I you know,
at the time, this is year years ago when he
got caught and they you know, all of a sudden,
I get a phone call and he's like, hey, you know,
I'm getting deported and I'm like what, dude, Like, I
grew up with this kid you know. I mean we've
been didn't even know he's illegal. I didn't even know
he's illegal. And he's like, yeah did. He's like, I mean,
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I was born here, but you know, they're deporting me.
And I'm like, Doug, you're deporting you? What do you
mean like they're deporting you? And he's like, I was like,
you're an American citizen. You were born on our soil.
He's like, no, it doesn't work that way, you know.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
And I'm like, what you sure? I thought it did?
I thought it did. Yeah, yeah, no, he was like,
I'm not immigration lawyer.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
Well it is okay, but if your parents are not
and and you break a federal ball, okay, then they
can revoke it from you.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
I don't think. So this happened to his boy, So
I mean, I'm gonna have to.
Speaker 8 (24:29):
Enough to find out, because that's that's how I've.
Speaker 4 (24:31):
Necessard anadotic evidence right here. Yeah whatever, you know what
I meant.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
So, So anyways, you know, so he's calling me and
he's stressing out and blah blah blah. Maybe he was
he was born in Hunduras and I was wrong, you know,
and he was brought here as as a baby.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
But he's been here his whole life, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
I mean I've known him since we were seven and
he was born, you know what I mean. Like he
was running round his my buddy's little brother, and I've
seen him grow up his whole life. So I mean,
he's been here his whole life. And long story short
is they were deporting him because he had twenty pounds,
and you know, I kept saying, can I tell you out,
you know, and get you out because you know he's like, oh,
they're you know, they're denying my bell. This is not
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over twenty pounds a weed. I mean, it's like, you know,
there's people that do way worse shit than that, And
to just start deporting people, and this kid's been here
his whole entire life, doesn't even know anybody back home.
I mean, he had like he's like, I got an
ant out there, I'm gonna go. Yeah, I'm gonna go
meet her, you know what I'm saying. And I'm just
like thirty five a canna crash on your couch.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
So I went and visited him, dude, and and you know,
I hung out with them, and you know, he ended
up getting bailed out. And then he fought the case
for so long and they ended up not deporting him, but.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
They made a huge stake out of it. I mean
he did like a year in jail. I mean it
was it was quite a bit of time.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
But he didn't do fifty five years over him over
nine hundred.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
I don't know how he ended up with that. Maybe
had a gun on or something too.
Speaker 8 (25:58):
No, no, that's just a federal theren't want a laws
as opposed to your state.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
But how did he get hit with the federal Like,
how do you get kicked up by federal.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
On the nine hundred dollars?
Speaker 5 (26:06):
Bad?
Speaker 2 (26:06):
I mean, what did they It was a sting. They
didn't care who they were stinging. Oh, because they were
stinging the the United state level.
Speaker 8 (26:12):
Something happened in the state. Instead of the state police
stay on a stinger rating the dispenser they had the
federal government. The DA was coming in knocking.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Down doors, got you. So when they come in, they
hit you with the federal crime wreck And that's what
he did.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
Bedtime to wreck and he hit chopped with fifty five
years at bedtime. Yees, pay, you're doing fifty There ain't
no halftime or.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
He hit thirteen. You know, no, I know what that
they got a billion dollars. People were stealing jail, but
the laws changed while he was there. They got him
out on different clausets. Well, there is guys. Canada's Talk
one a one will be right back after this.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
Welcome back to Cannabis Talk one oh one, where Craig
Washington is just next.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
To me with the most gass they've ever had, and
all we got a lot. I got, you know what
I've got to that jet fuel.
Speaker 4 (27:03):
I said, you can leaves, man, you don't want to leave.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
I've got the gas all day. Doctor say, do you
know what the gas is? No? I don't know, Bat,
that's why you can smoke you game. You don't know what?
Ye why I don't know what we're asking about? Doctors
we're talking about?
Speaker 4 (27:19):
Well, because he's sitting here going to the doctors earlier.
The guy's grabbing his stomach like he's got punched to
the guts and I'm worried about it. I shake that.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
But you know what, there's no time for that. We
got work to do. So there's pre man. You know,
he's talking about gas like he's smoking gas. That I
hope you go then I got something to bring up
to you guys, and I want your take on this.
Speaker 7 (27:38):
Now.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
A group of sixteen experts.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
Basically they're putting together like a Kaiser permanent, right, so
like a pharmaceutical not a farmer, a hospital style place.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
It's putting together a federal agency. And they recommended that.
Speaker 4 (27:51):
Primary care doctors screen their patience for unhealthy drug use.
Makes sense, right, I want to see if somebody has
heroin in their system, maybe a little meth amphetamines. But
why are they considering putting cannabis as an unhealthy drug
in there when tobacco and are not being accepted.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
It's a group of sixtects.
Speaker 4 (28:15):
The expert the US Department of Health and Human Services,
the US exactly so I can get into all the
big details with that.
Speaker 8 (28:23):
Why that's not the individuals, but who's putting it on?
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Yes, that's it right me, the US Department of Health
and Human seers.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
They're never going to con that I want to call
I think it might be contradictive because I do believe
that they do.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
They ask you every time you go see that do
you drink and do you smoke? Well?
Speaker 8 (28:37):
No, you know what's fucked up is I mean, you
know whatco I've never asked doing a Prop sixty five
in California, explain a little more, please. Prop sixty five
is the initiative, is the proposition, that's the law that
says you have to list everything that could kill you
on a you know, the what is it the vapors
at the gas station going to be harmful? You're in
McDonald's and it says something about whatever vapors. So they
(29:03):
added cannabis. Cannabis is on the list as it could
kill you.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
It What did they say, what's the reason smoking could
be harmful to your health? You know what that's for smoking?
Speaker 8 (29:12):
If it's anything could be harmful to your health, not
not one, not one other drug or chemical that's listed
in Prop sixty five can actually help you. Cannabis can
help you. How it has to be on that much
of it? You know, we're not saying that, they're just
I think they're just categorizing it in the bad chemical
(29:34):
you know, in the bad chemical batch.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Yeah, they're just adding adding, you know, ship to the shame.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
So so I think what it comes to, though, Craig, though,
is that when you can bust cannabis and the smoke
you know, the actual action of smoking, which is probably
the most harmful way to ingest cannabis, is by a
straight smoking. It is why they're doing it, and it's
just safety, you know. I would say, you know, I
don't think it's the end of the world, world, but
(30:02):
I certainly do think they should have more of an
information on there about that. Although when you say what
you just said, Craig and more information Blue, I'm actually
switching and converting a little bit because I'm thinking going
if anybody smokes that inflames their lungs period, there's no
question about what they're smoking.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
It inflames the lungs period.
Speaker 4 (30:25):
Now, what I'm smoking may help some other things, but
I'm still inflaming my lungs while I'm smoking something that's
helping something else and might even help my lungs later
as well. The point to the moral is if it
inflames the lungs and could cause harm, which is more
research that we need to prove this. I think they're
(30:45):
going off of maybe that theory alone, because show me
the death of the man woman that died from smoking weed.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
It's probably there sugar sugar, sugar sugar warning sign, big
old thing going there because if.
Speaker 4 (31:02):
This creates diabetes, creates losing your limbs, creates dying on there,
that's a great point. That's a great point. Donalds, isn't
on there, you fat obese basket and keep they're not
on there?
Speaker 3 (31:15):
I mean you're you're right. I would actually question that night,
and I don't. I think we should sue them.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
I think we.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
Should do a class action lawsuit for not being on
there's just spearheaded.
Speaker 4 (31:25):
Let's do It's a good point.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
The counter back like, why why can't you? You can
you can do whatever you want. Is it the US
to everything?
Speaker 8 (31:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (31:36):
Yeah, just ask them all for a hundred grand and
just go after the US. They know what the way
we do things.
Speaker 8 (31:42):
Some lawyers would go yeah, yeah, yeah, let's do it
and then you lose. We would say you're probably gonna lose.
But if you want to do it, I'll take the money.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
That's how you do it, That's how we do it.
You wouldn't you just taking money? Wouldn't do for your
your Puerto Rican brother here? No, because you're probably gonna lose.
Why why? Why? I mean it's sugar, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (31:59):
If we talk about this, there's other things that you
guys can be putting tags on why cannabis?
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Where's the proof? Where's the proof? That's what I mean,
the proof. Do we there's the meat? Do we see
the stable? You look like that old lady for Wendy's.
I don't know who you'd see. I really don't know.
Speaker 4 (32:14):
I don't know you wouldn't you see the US Department
of Health and Human Services called.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
The US Providence Services Tasks in California. It's like, who
the fuck are these guys? You exactly? That's what it
sounds like.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
You know, well listen, I mean you know, but I
bet you if you put candy in cannabis, they're going
to make you put all those tags on it.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
But if you make candy with you know.
Speaker 4 (32:37):
Sugar, the candy now will kill you because it has
cannabis and the sugar in it.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
But they never said it when it had the sugar
in there.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
They kill you because sugar is one of the most
addicting drugs in the world.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Oh my god. I look around you look around. You
look at all the people. There's soda that you might
be drinking right now.
Speaker 8 (32:54):
Well they you know, well it can change because I
don't do that area of the loss. I really didn't know,
but it just in my head that when they probably
five came out, caffeine was on the list that had
to be disclosed.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Oh I love Starbucks. I mean there was.
Speaker 8 (33:09):
A huge backlash and they ended up taking that off
the list.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Wow, Craig, So we do have a lawsuit?
Speaker 1 (33:16):
We do?
Speaker 2 (33:17):
We do? I think we should take it to the
Supreme Court. Let me tell you. I'll tell you what though.
Speaker 8 (33:22):
This Supreme Court, I'm not so sure.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
No, we're going to do it right here today. We're
going to take a vote. Okay where the court where
the court comment comments?
Speaker 8 (33:30):
Right here?
Speaker 3 (33:30):
No, so the judge and the jury are the people
out there, and they're gonna call and leave a comment. Okay,
give him that number, joke.
Speaker 4 (33:36):
It's really easy to call and leave a comment. The
phone number is eight hundred four to twenty nineteen eighty.
That's eight hundred four to twenty nineteen eighty. Leave a comment.
And if you've watched any of the shows recently, you'll
see how great Craig Washerman looks once he got his
hair dye and cut that damn go tee down a
little bit a little bit.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
I know, you like like like three feet at least
three feet. Yeah, he looked like zz Top. He looked
like zz Top's gardener. I had for a while. I
had that right here. I gotta throw something else by
you guys.
Speaker 4 (34:09):
And you know, as we talk about money and suing
a company marijuana, mso Justy buys. They're called justin. Excuse me,
excuse me just she not justin My eyes are going bad.
Msoeshi j u s h I. Boys, they buy a
facility in Pennsylvania for thirty seven million dollars cannabis.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
So it just goes to show me how that works.
Speaker 4 (34:31):
Well, you know what, This is what I'm going to
get you to the point, Craig and I hear you.
Let's see how it works out. But the point I
want to make the people out there is what Blues.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
Been preaching from Jump Street.
Speaker 4 (34:42):
Start your fucking business, folks, if you're thinking about doing it.
This guy that started his business in Pennsylvania, guess what
he for thirty seven million dollars.
Speaker 8 (34:51):
Wait a minute, Wait a minute.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
I hate to be the old grumpy you know, come
with it.
Speaker 4 (34:55):
Are you always working in the details, but the devil's
in the detail.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
How much is cash and how much stock, well.
Speaker 4 (35:01):
It does, I don't know the funds and the purchase
that's Jesse secured. So that company secured fifteen point twenty
five million in debt financial that was led by insiders
and existing shareholders. The accusation involves a purchase of Pennsylvania
Medical Medical Solutions, a licensed medical marijuana grower processor at
a Scranton owned by you don't.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
I don't know. I'm trying.
Speaker 4 (35:24):
I wish I would have known that answer, but I
don't know. Bottom line, it's a nine ninety thousand square
foot location cultivation, you know. And my point to the
story is, and why I like to go green with
something like this is I've heard Blue preach this, teach this.
We work with people, we encourage people, and as you Craig,
work with people to start businesses. But say it that
(35:46):
it costs a lot of money. And those who do
guess what. I don't think the business that this person
sold cost to them thirty seven.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
Million dollars to create.
Speaker 4 (35:55):
I could be wrong, No, I could be wrong, but
I don't think I am. So my point moral and
maybe my point and mold of the story is maybe
you know, way you never know that.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
Ninety thousand square foot building. It's covered more than a
hundred ground but it's in Pennsylvania. But no, here's you
still got them.
Speaker 4 (36:11):
Here's the guy that actually started Man started zero.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
You might have followed money like Trump, he got involved
today with the difference I'm noting now.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
He's on an architect. He found a grower and he's
put the pieces to the plug. Hey, what's wrong with
you and other people up then? And by the way,
I see it right here at Craig, let me answer
your question.
Speaker 4 (36:34):
Paying sixteen point three million dollars in cash, paying three
point eight million seller notes and eight percent.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Interest with curing in four years. Assume a seventeen million
dollars facility association with a long term complication. So that's
what we're looking at it. And you know what, very good, Joe,
Thank you for clearing that up.
Speaker 4 (36:51):
No doubt.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
I try to give you the research that they're acting for.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
You know what, Craig ready, and there it is, guys,
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