June 29, 2023 • 34 mins
In this episode, I’m going to attempt to demystify Web3 for y’all. Who better to bring on and explain this space than a mom who has been doing just that: creating a community by and for moms in Web3.
My guest today is Sarah Monson, the Founder and CEO of GenX NFTs who is here to usher 65M+ Gen-X 80s kids (and those who wish they were) into Web3, through relatable education and core memories from childhood. Sarah’s Latch Key Kids NFT collection was created by GEN-X, the generation of MTV, Bob Ross, trapper keepers and latch key kids, for GEN-X!
Sarah is going to walk us through some basic terminology you’ve probably heard thrown around, like crypto, the metaverse, NFTs and hopefully throughout this next ½ hour, our conversation helps you understand the space better so us moms can also get involved and find community in the world of web3. So c’mon moms, travel back to the future with us!
To learn more about GenX NFTs
https://www.instagram.com/genxnfts/
Other Web3 Communities we spoke about in this episode
Cashing our Trillions is Hosted and Produced by Common Solutions Media and Yvonne So. You can connect with me on Instagram @yso_mom, LinkedIn @yvonnecot, or e-mail me at cashingourtrillions@gmail.com
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Hi, their family, Welcome back to casing our trillions. I'm
your host, Yvon So. I'm a full time Saint Home
mom of three boys, and this podcast is a space
to value the trillion dollar economy of unpaid labor shouldered
by moms. In this episode, I'm going to attempt to
(00:27):
demystify Web three for y'all. In my first episode, my
guest Rashma Show Johnny of Moms First, spoke about how
moms had to stay current and get involved and mobilized
in new spaces. She also spoke about her involvement in
Choice Now, a global Web three community of activists solely
dedicated to fund and engage in the fight for reproductive rights.
(00:52):
At its core, Web three is the read, write own
upgrade of the Internet. In our current Web two version
of the Internet, we are creating, sharing, and commenting, but
we're beholden to the algorithms of the big data companies
or some type of central authority for monetization. Web three
(01:13):
decentralizes or removes control from central authorities and hands it
to the masses. Decentralization means content creators, artists, and Internet
users in general can cut out the middleman and transact
business peer to peer. This is why there is so
much buzz about the potential of Web three to propel
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women forward. This next iteration of the Internet has the
ability to provide us a platform for true ownership, financial freedom,
and community. But first we need to understand it, adopt it,
and get involved. And who better to bring on and
explain this space than a mom who has been doing
(01:59):
just that, creating a community by and four moms in
Web three. My guest today is Sarah Monson, the founder
and CEO of gen X NFTs, who is here to
usher in sixty five million plus gen X eighties kids
and those who wish they were into Web three through
(02:20):
relatable education and core memories from childhood. So first, Sarah's
going to walk us through some basic terminology you've heard
thrown around, you know, like crypto, the metaverse, NFTs, and
hopefully through this next half hour our conversation helps you
understand the space better so moms can also get involved
and find community in the world a Web three. So
(02:43):
come on, moms, travel back to the future with us.
You are a host of a Twitter space. Every week
that's starts it is ABC's of NFTs. It seems like
you all, I've graduated onto bigger and better themes, but
(03:07):
like for my audience, can we bring it back to
those early sessions that you did and just kind of
walk the listeners through the basic terminology they need to
know if they're crypto curious.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Here's the elevator version of the things I've been absorbing.
If you can just latch onto one little thing, you
know'll just be a negative information to push you forward. So,
you know, before I start talking about NFTs, you have
to talk about the bigger picture buzzwords that have been
floating around, like Web three. You know, you have to
talk about Web one and Web two before you talk
about Web three. So Web one was the first phase
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of the Internet, and it was just reading. You couldn't
do anything other than look at it and read it
and scroll. And you know, it is the eighties to
early two thousands.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
It was like when we dialed into AOL you need to.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Like kicked off and suddenly picked up the phone exactly.
So Web two is the version that we exist in
right now. It's interactive. You know, under you can create content,
you can consume content, you can interact with it, you
can chat with your friend, can buy and sell things
on Etsy. You know, that's influencers, Instagram influencers exactly. You
(04:14):
could be an influencer on Instagram and you piss one
person off and you get banned for life and boom,
you know, their theirs sources.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Or they change the algorithm and then get as many followers, right,
I mean that that's the big thing.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
So you think you have this great thing going and
then poof, you know, your livelihood is affected. And that's
pretty scary to not really have control over that. So
to have access to all these wonderful Web two things,
your information is kind of bought and sold by these
big corporations. So privacy, concern security and control over your
online information is kind of non existing. So with Web
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three is a collective we rather than just centralized entities.
It's a way to cut out the MIDDLEMAM is the
best way I can put it, and just be able
to reach the people you want to reach immediately and
vice verse and create revenue streams based on that. I
can move on.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Yes, let's move on.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
So how to NTS, Crypto and everything kind of build
on this structure.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
People confuse crypto with NFTs, and crypto is different from NFTs.
Crypto is a currency that you It's just money basically,
but it's digital money on the blockchain, and you can
buy it and sell it. That's all you can do
with it. NFTs are different because NFTs are actually called
non fungible tokens and they are bought with crypto, but
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they are not crypto, like a non fungible object is
a piece of artwork, like the Mona Lisa, or your dog.
Like your dog is non fungible, you can't swap out
your dog. So and token just means digital file. So
this is where my gen xy stuff comes in. I
think of a non fungible token it's like a cabbage
patch kid's birth certificate. Oh my gosh, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
I never thought of it that way, right.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
It's like a certificate of authenticity of ownership. And instead
of being on paper and stored in a shoe box
under your bed, it's stored on the blockchain. The way
I make the blockchain makes sense to me. It's like
it's a ledger. So when you go and they stamp
the library book, you can see the stamps of all
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the people that have had it before you. And so
it's a way to look back at the history of
who has checked out the book, and that's the blockchain. Essentially,
you can trace your token all the way back, so
you know it's authentic, you know it's real, you know
it has you know who's owned it previously, and it
just creates a source of validation and security.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Who would have thought eighties nostalgia can explain NFTs in
the blockchain, But it's really that simple. NFTs are tokenized
digital files that represent digital or real world items like artwork,
real estate, property rights, and a bunch of other things.
Tokenizing these real world tangible assets makes buying and selling
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and trading them much more efficient, just like the old
school method of checking out a library book by rubber
stamping the checkout and due date on the card. Each
transaction is recorded on the blockchain, most of them so
far on the Ethereum blockchain, so you can trace the
history of transactions, reducing the probability of fraud. So why
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is all this important Because in the current iteration that
we're experiencing, which is mostly in digital art form, NFTs
are creating a global marketplace, a peer to peer transaction
for artists and content creators. Just process that for a moment,
artists are able to sell straight to consumers, democratizing who
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is an artist and allowing content to be distributed without
a middleman, you know, like an auction house or large distributor,
more quickly and broadly. Traditionally, artists or creators only get
paid once on the initial sale, but since NFTs are
digital tokens, artists and creators can program royalties into their
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NFT and that ensures that they get a portion of each.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Future sale of their creation.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Also, many NFT projects, including gen x NFT, donate a
percentage of their funds to charity of their choice. Currently,
open c is the largest digital marketplace for NFTs where
you can buy, sell, and discover digital items. Next, Sarah
and I discuss a great example of how NFTs allow
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people to crowdsource with like minded individuals quickly and provide
impact while building community.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Web three. It's very easy to find like minded people
that are that have your passion and mission, and then
you can just be a part of that experience and
learn things about this new technology and the way the
future will be along the way. If you can create
something or be a part of something where you have
a little bit of ownership, a what does that do
for your soul and your spirit? But be also you
can you have a voice, and you can make some money.
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If you're an artist, you can make a huge impact
really fast and more bang for your buck in this space.
And then if you find other people that are aligned
with your mission, they do it as well, and boom
you have a movement.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
How did you learn about crypto?
Speaker 4 (09:29):
For me?
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Once I decided that this was something I wanted to
research that it wasn't that much material out there, and
like I was watching YouTube videos of like crypto Bros
And listening to podcasts, There's just very little material that
I felt I could relate to. So maybe just talk
about your rabbit hole moment, like made what kind of
clicked in your mind? And then how did you go
(09:52):
about research it?
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Just like you? It was just like a super young
tech bro speaking a language I didn't understand. My sister
got me into it, which was so cool back into
youenty eighteen. She was like, there's this thing called crypto
and bitcoin. You need to buy it.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
And so is your sister older or young?
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Is older? She's two years older, which is okay.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Because my brother got me into it, but he's eight
years younger. Oh, so it was like a millennial who
brought me in?
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Yeah, what's funny. My gen X sister brought me in,
but my gen Z nephew.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
According to a Morning Consult study, the largest group of
NFT collectors are millennials at twenty three percent. Only eight
percent of Gen X, four percent of Gen Z, and
two percent of baby boomers say they collect NFTs, with
men being more than three times as likely to be
NFT collectors as women. Sarah continues with the story of
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her Web three rabbit hole.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Moment when Mark Zuckerberg put out that metaverse video. Do
you remember that video where.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
He like, no, what is it?
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Oh my gosh. She was like standing in the metaverse.
It was like the first mention of the word metaverse.
It kind of made metaverse go mainstream. So I had
a legit panic attack. I started thinking, Wow, this metaverse
is going to be like that movie Ready Player one,
where everybody lives in this virtual world and the rest
of the world is going to hell. Yeah, that's that's interesting.
Like the rabbit hole moment was kind of me having
(11:12):
a panic attack about what Web three could be and
then suddenly thinking, oh my gosh, I have to protect
my daughter. This is obviously her future. I need to
learn this language. I need to understand it so I
can have protect her from it and educate her about
it and keep her safe and grow with her and
you know, have something in common with her.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
I love that you had like that Mama Bear moment.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
You're like, oh my gosh it, if you're going to
go down, I'm going down with you totally.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
We're all going to be living in the metaverse. They're
going to be my neighbors.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
I think like the whole idea of decentralization really makes
sense to me.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
And giving ownership to the creators.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
I think that's kind of like my rabbit hole moment
when I read about NFTs and I was in the
middle of homeschooling and everything too. On web two, you
can google anything and you can make a lesson plan.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Right, all these teachers and educators or whoever creates these,
it's all offered on the web for free. But imagine
if you tokenize it, then you know they don't have
to rely on the royalties from YouTube or the ad
revenues or the impression royalties. Like you own your lesson
plans and they're tokenized and people have to pay you
(12:23):
for it, and I just the freedom that comes from
that I thought was super super fascinating. And that's kind
of like that's where I am now.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
I love that. Yeah, I mean NFTs aren't just art.
They can be music, they can be books, they can
be education, they can be.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Connection, right yeah, any anything they can.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
It's just there's what they are, what they are now
and what they will be is just night and day.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
So what do you do with all your NFTs? Like
do you keep them on your computer?
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Like?
Speaker 5 (12:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (12:52):
They how do they bring you joy?
Speaker 2 (12:55):
My NFT is bring me joy whenever I go to
open see and I click and I ope them up
and I look at them. I think eventually I would
love to make physical prints of them and create like
an NFT all kind of you know, you see this
thing behind me. Those are just samples of my NFT
collection coming out, But I'd love to make, you know,
my own art gallery. If I'm talking to people out
there that are listening about well what do I get
(13:17):
for it? You can hold on to it and hope
it increases in value, which is one way to make
money from it, and then you can sell it. You
own it. It's a piece of art that you own.
You can make t shirts out of it. I've seen
people start bands. I've seen people you know, make cartoon
around there around their NFTs. Yeah, because you own the property.
You it's your piece of art.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
There is utility for people who buy it besides just
like putting it on your desktop and looking at it
and like petting it on your exactly exactly you're just
you can actually use it to create revenue streams if
you choose to. While Sarah and I spoke about the
utility of NFTs for buyers, I think one of the
most powerful illustrations of the impact of Web three for
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women and for moms is the personal story of miss
al Simpson. She is a Scottish digital and collage artist
and one of the artists of the Seneca Woman Equality Collection,
which was an NFT drop of six pieces created by
global female artists, where the proceeds of that sale were
donated to the nonprofit Vital Voices in support of Ukrainian women.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
So Miss Alsimson's.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Self portrait for the collection featured the phrases peer to peers, genderless.
iHeart NFTs equality is decentralized. Web three equals no middleman.
These are all themes Sarah and I have spoken about
so far in our conversation and the tenants of Web
three that really change the trajectory of Miss Alsinson's life.
(14:47):
Shortly after her divorce, so.
Speaker 5 (14:49):
I got divorced and you know, the laws in Scotland
quite harsh on mothers on divorce and my business because
it required a law capital. You know, I kind of
woundered and that business kind of went to the wayside,
but my art kind of held me up. And then
as soon as the blockchain happened, I just know that
a huge potential for me as an artist. And as
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that started to happen and the sales started to come in,
just that feeling of gradual more and more financial independence
really rags to riches, to be honest, just it's so empowering,
and I just think this huge potential with Web three
for women, for mothers to really burst through.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
You're listening to Cashing our Trillion. Miss Allismson's story of
transforming her life from being a penniless artist to one
of the most successful international female crypto artists highlights how
the blockchain has given her the opportunities to reach her
full potential and achieve financial freedom to support herself and
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her children. Sarah extends his thought and reflects on how
understanding Web three is a natural progression in momming as
we keep up with the technologies that will fuel our
children's lives. Now, like you're spreading this NFT gospel, Like,
what do you think is the AHA moment for other moms? Like,
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as you're educating them in this process.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Sadly the bad has been more highlighted than the good
in the NFT world. For the aha moment for moms
is like, regardless of all of that, protect your kids
because they won't think it's this. They will think it's amazing.
And it is a different language to learn. So the
early year you speak this language of Web three, the
early year you'll be able to communicate with your children
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as this becomes their everyday reality, you know. And I'm likeways,
don't be a boomer about it, don't it's so funny,
Like we're acting like it doesn't exist, or we stick
our head in the sands. It's happening. You don't need
to like that.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Oh, what's happening right now? I think like, because we
were chatting before about ed three. I think that's probably
how our children might transition into it, and using AI
in the classrooms. I mean it's especially now, like I
don't know how it is in Hawaii, but Arizona we
have a major teacher shortage, right, and then using AI
or you know, learning in the metaverse might be the solution.
(17:11):
And especially we've all gone through the pandemic, we've all homeschooled,
and there's a lot of asynchronous learning now and that's
more socially acceptable. I think, you know, Web three kind
of balances that totally.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Actually, like you said, educators, they want to actually see
what this all is about and then use that technology
to you know, uplift what they're doing currently. Then I
think that's and bring more people into it. So I
think that's great.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
Let's maybe back up a little.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
So we kind of gave everyone like a breakdown of
all the vocab and then the different terminology we use.
I think there's a little bit of a leap, like, Okay,
now I kind of know what it is. That sounds interesting,
But then how do I get involved? Like how like
what are the logistical next steps? Like all those NFTs
behind you they look amazing, but like how do I
buy that exactly.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
So for newbies coming in, I think the best thing
to do is to find a community that you like
and trust, and then look for their educational resources, because
most of them will have them. You know, I have
them on my website. You know, there's another really great
women led a collection called The Hug which is founded
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by Randy Zuckerberg. And then there's my BFF, which is
founded by a bunch of celebrities, but they're doing really
good things for women and non binary people in the space.
And so you can go to any of these kind
of more well known communities and just fart around on
their discord or go to their YouTube page and just
kind of educate yourself. Takes a minute. It's kind of annoying,
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but once you set it up then you're good to go.
But for me, because I'm a gen xer and because
this is also confounding, and I'm a mom, and I
don't have time, right and if I want to get
you know, sixty five million gen xers or even just
my Facebook mom group, you know, come on in. If
they were like, Okay, I have ten minutes, how do
I buy an NFT? You know, a lot of collections
are now giving you the ability to purchase them with
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credit cards. My first NFT was the Matrix NFT, and
I bought it with a credit card and they created
an instant wallet for me and okay, and so it
just sits there and I can transfer it into my
own wallet should I choose to create a wallet later.
So that's what a lot of collections are doing now,
and that's what I'm doing with mine too.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Oh that's good to know because I've definitely been lazy
on that. Like I've bought the coins and the cryptocurrency,
but to make that leap to NFTs or like sometimes
I'll see they're like, oh, click on this to buy
the NFT, and then I'm they're like, oh, you have
to create a wallet, Like yeah, that's too much work,
or I need to research a little bit more.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
So that that's definitely been a limiting thing for me.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
One hundred percent. And it can be kind of scary
because it's gone, that's the mom and us, right, Like, yeah,
take responsibility for your own actions one hundred percent. You
don't want to lose that. You have to really trust
yourself and that's hard, you know. When I was a
new mom, I didn't know what I was doing, and
so you have to learn to grow and trust. And
you know, that's one thing where the community of web
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three is so vital because this is where you find
your people and they support you and you can bounce
ideas off of them. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
I think I read that in your buzz Speed article, right,
You're talking about how there is this like loving, awesome
Web three community for sure.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
So you know, I feel just like the women in
the space, You're just like true heroes. They're so unwanted
because the tech bros are like, eh, and especially older
women in this space, like I have no business being here, right,
Like I am forty five, I'm a mom. I don't
have a tech background, but I'm here and there are
a lot of us I'm here, but yeah, it's great.
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One of my mom friends brand from lux Ladies NFT,
great collection. She helped me build my discourse, and another mom,
a tired m she helped build my website because she's
a web developer. Met A Women's Club NFT are starting
a university in the Meta a Verse where they will
educate women and non binary and LGBTQIA three so they
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can get a job in web three and they bought
land in the Metaverse and they're building a university and
it's really cool.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
So yeah, so we just all uplift each other. It's
not competitive. The mom led communities, they have spaces that
moms can come in and lean on for support, even
if it has nothing to do with Web three. So
like my tired mom's friend Diana, her discord actually has
kind of an on site doula. So if you join
the discord, don't need to buy the NFT, can go
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in there and you can like ask questions to this
really educated person about just postpartum stuff and mom stuff.
We're all still human, we all still want connection. This
is just another way to connect people. And I love
that because even in like the real world, you don't
really find that a lot women can get competitive and
moms can get competitive.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
Who has the best birthday party?
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Like I do? In the verse?
Speaker 2 (21:56):
You know? Or I can you imagine?
Speaker 1 (21:58):
But yeah, like one friend shows up, I want this
to click for moms.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Yeah, me too. I hope that my collection and other
collection there are women led make it so easy to
just like read one thing for five minutes and then
they get it. Oh I understand now kind of frazzled
rambly mom who you know has seems to have done
a bunch of I don't know. I mean, it just
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takes courage and curiosity. You're just learning something new and
you can do it safely if you find the right people.
So many moms that I've encountered, it's so interesting to
see the lack of interest. But I think we're just
all really tired because of COVID, because of homeschooling, because
of the abortion band, because of all the stuff that's
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going on, and it's like one more thing to have
to learn.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
I'm a mom, like, I'm just too tired to learn
something new, Like you just said, you just said a
whole bunch words that make no sense to me, And
I have no desire to learn something new when I
have three kids to pick up a dish full of sink,
like and like you know, a million things on my
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to do list, like if this doesn't put food on
the table and change my life, like I'm out.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
You know that's so well put unless you're really active
in it, and a trader or a creator or a flipper,
a collector, you're not. It's not going to put on
food on the table right now. It's but if you
aren't at least curious about it now, it will never
put food on the table, and then by the time
it does drag you into it, there won't be any
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room left for you. It's kind of dystopian now that
I think about it. That's why I got to get
in not every takeover first, you need to get in there.
We get shipped one. Look at what we did when
zoom School happened with like three days, we had, you know,
twenty million kids on zoom School. Like, if you have
to make a change drastically, like moms are the people
they're going to do it.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
True, that's true. Talk a little bit like maybe about
your origin story, like you're very much a childhood the eighties,
but like perhaps walk us through your life before you
enter the NFT space.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
It worked in TV show reality casting for a good decade.
I worked on Survivor and a Bachelor. That kind of
segued into me writing about it. I've been doing NFTs
for about a year and I've been able to juggle
both and I do the mom life stuff and that,
you know, school and lunch and breakfast and all that.
I still do my day job, but it's on my time,
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which is great. So that's kind of my origin story
as far as how what I did before NFTs. But
I actually I was thinking about this a lot as
a woman in this space and as a mom in
this space. I was eighteen years old living in Seattle
during the dot com boom, and I missed it completely.
And I think back to that eighteen year old girl, like, man,
what could she have done in that time? Have actually
(25:01):
had access or education? Today, I see Web three starting
to happen, and I'm like, well, I don't want to
miss this boat too, And I think about that for
so many other women and moms and marginalized individuals, how
they too are probably thinking, hmm, it's just too much,
it's too hard. I have tech experience, and it's just
about finding the people that you resonate with and relate
(25:23):
to and can trust. And there's a certain amount of
you know, living on a prayer, you know, a little
faith you have to have in yourself.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
But that's amazing, and it's all working towards yourself and
promote and creating revenue streams for yourself. Like can you
can you.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Just give some examples of like how you're personally finding
financial freedom through the blockchain and doing this NFT.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Work as an NFT founder, you know, creator of this collection.
The ultimate goal will be a launch of this NFT collection.
We'll hopefully sell it out and everybody will be really
happy because they have a great NFT and utility from
that NFT and then the revenue stream I'll get for
myself is hopefully a little revenue from that, and then
you know, but most of it'll be immediately put back
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into the business so we can do another collection. And
it's exciting to think about me, who doesn't really have
any business being a business, a business owner or a
tech person, but doing it because I'm so passionate about
it and I'm learning every day, and it just shows
me that there is a seat at the table for
anybody in this space. You know, I've worked with entertainment,
I've worked in advertising. I've succeeded in anything I've ever done,
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so this hopefully will just be another place I do that.
You know, it takes very little to start an NFT collection,
It takes very little to buy an NFT. It takes
no money to join a community. Oh oh, and this
is another thing you could get paid by a company
to go and explain to them what an NFT is,
like become a consultant in Web three there. You know,
think about ten years ago, nobody knew what a social
media manager was either everywhere. Now, even if you don't
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want to make an NFT, don't want to buy an NFT,
never want to own crypto, you could still have a
very lucrative career in Web three.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
And because you just just to have knowledge of amazing yeah,
and to teach other people. I guess because it's so
new and people need to get up to speed. But
I think once, once you get a taste of it,
and once you latch onto something, I think you really
get sucked in total is what I noticed.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Oh I think, so this will be a college major.
I mean, this will be a full on college major.
You think abouts.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
And my fifth grader is going to learn about it
this year.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Oh my gosh. See, and I love that. I think that,
you know, it's a moment in time and it's happening,
so you should learn about.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Like he's going to do a chapter on economics, and
bitcoin will be explained to him.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
I don't know how, but and then honestly he can
go and give speeches to companies and be a little
entrepreneur because he will probably know so much more it's
all said and done.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
Yeah, we'll see.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
So I've been staring behind you at your collection. Talk
about it, like, where did you get this idea for
this latch key kid collection? Maybe like describe it to people?
Speaker 5 (28:06):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Sure, Yeah, I want to be the ambassador for gen
X women in this space specifically, so you know, I'm like,
if a Tara gen X mom could do it, anybody can.
And you know, so my collection is three thousand latch
key kids because growing up in the eighties and early nineties,
you know, you were a latchkey kid. You wore a
chain around your neck to get you in the door
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to and you would go and eat your cereal and
watch cartoons until a parent came home, and then.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
You were a lad.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
I was a las key kid, absolutely, both my parents
were and kids are young goats.
Speaker 4 (28:38):
So the so the visuals of actual art, they're like
cute little goats, but they're but they're throwbacks, are pop
culture retro throwbacks, and so you can have some nostalgia
about your youth in these NFTs.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
So a lot of them are have the hairstyles or
the wardrobe, or they're holding cool little things trapper keepers
and magic gate balls and you know, all of.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
These things that see a cast behind.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
I know, we have a collection of generative art. Basically,
you create all these amazing pieces of art and then
you mix them all together and then they come up
with these generative pieces, so you don't exactly know what
you're getting, and then that's what makes them unique. And
and then also I also have created some one of
ones which are hand drawn, totally original, unlike any other
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of homages to gen x icons.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
So that's what's behind me.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Yeah, that's a lot of behind me. Yeah, so you
can see people that we loved from our youth. Oh
my gosh, is that Bob Ross? Yes, I need Bob Ross.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
You know, have to go online and look for that one.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Yeah, it's fun. Yeah, we're we're starting to do reveals
and we're starting to kind of ramp up for our
for our launch date, and it's actually really cool. We're
doing some collaborations with in real life brands of eighties brands.
That's why it makes uh winning an NFT drop really exciting,
because you don't know what you're gonna get, you'll buy
and you could get a super duper rare one that's
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like instantly worth a ton of money, or it's instantly
something you want, or or you could just get another
cool piece of art and they're all like.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
Cool Pokemon cards exactly.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Yeah, they're collectibles exactly. Dot of what people do is
they find one that looks like them and then they
use that as their avatar, which is really fine.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
That's what you see on the Twitter handles exact exactly.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
I want to be an easy entry point for people
to get into this space and hopefully fall in love
with it, so they can then see the world that's
opened up to them and be like, oh, there's another
NFT collection that's trying to save the national forests. Oh
and there's another NFT collection that's working with indigenous people.
Once they're in here, they can see this world opened
up today.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
And it's like, so it sounds like you're in this
space for the long haul too, I mean, because maybe
talk about the difficulties of doing this right now in
a crypto winter kind of environment as well.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Right, Yeah, it's definitely slowed down and got quiet, even
got quiet for a while. I was a little like,
oh man, what's going on here? But I found I
found my brave again, and I went for it.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
And I noticed that, like my dollar costs average into this,
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
You know, it's low and slow. I'm like a nice brisket,
you know. I take it very slow and observe, and
I'm like, okay, we'll get there someday. I'm not in
a rush. I'm in this for the long run. And
I think that this crypto winner has really created a
smaller community and you can connect directly with higher uppers
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that you might not have had access to before.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
Just like me being able to touch all.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
Well, it's quieter, it's smaller, and it's not so fomo hype.
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
If you don't buy.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Land next to Snoop Dogg in the metaverse, you're gonna lose,
you know. So no, this just get in starts small,
poke your nose around, be like, oh okay, this is interesting.
What are they doing? You know, people get caught up
in the tech and web three and the crypto and
all that stuff, but it at its very base, it's
just humans connecting with humans through art, and I think
that that's an important thing to note, because I think
that gets lost a lot.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
About it. Yeah, yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
Everyone's like always all more focused on the technology, and
it will.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
The technology will definitely change, like the technology and it's
great and it should and it won't always be about
what it's about now. But right now, this is what
it's about. And if it interests you, learn about it
and be a part of it. It's a it's a cheap,
easy way to be a part of a future that
is going to completely transform the world.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
Yeah, I mean, we won't be holding those Cabbage Patch
kid bird certificates.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
Forever, right, exactly. All right, it's Sara. My last question
for you. How will you cash your trillions?
Speaker 2 (32:49):
So I think about it as a lot My dream
in life is to own a home, and it's very
difficult to do. And so I will cash my trillions
by purchasing a how or at least getting money for
a down payment on a house. That is how I
cash in Hawaii, in Hawaii if possible, but you know what,
in this market, it can't be too picky. But yeah, ideally, man,
(33:13):
if I could, I would buy a house in Hawaii.
That would be an amazing way to cash my trillions.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
The information provided in this episode does not constitute investment, financial,
or trading advice. Please conduct your own due diligence and
consult your financial advisor before making any investment decision. This
episode was produced by me and sound edited by Shehen.
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A moment to rate and review it. It would really
mean so much to me. Thank you for listening.
Hi, their family, Welcome back to casing our trillions. I'm
your host, Yvon So. I'm a full time Saint Home
mom of three boys, and this podcast is a space
to value the trillion dollar economy of unpaid labor shouldered
by moms. In this episode, I'm going to attempt to
(00:27):
demystify Web three for y'all. In my first episode, my
guest Rashma Show Johnny of Moms First, spoke about how
moms had to stay current and get involved and mobilized
in new spaces. She also spoke about her involvement in
Choice Now, a global Web three community of activists solely
dedicated to fund and engage in the fight for reproductive rights.
(00:52):
At its core, Web three is the read, write own
upgrade of the Internet. In our current Web two version
of the Internet, we are creating, sharing, and commenting, but
we're beholden to the algorithms of the big data companies
or some type of central authority for monetization. Web three
(01:13):
decentralizes or removes control from central authorities and hands it
to the masses. Decentralization means content creators, artists, and Internet
users in general can cut out the middleman and transact
business peer to peer. This is why there is so
much buzz about the potential of Web three to propel
(01:36):
women forward. This next iteration of the Internet has the
ability to provide us a platform for true ownership, financial freedom,
and community. But first we need to understand it, adopt it,
and get involved. And who better to bring on and
explain this space than a mom who has been doing
(01:59):
just that, creating a community by and four moms in
Web three. My guest today is Sarah Monson, the founder
and CEO of gen X NFTs, who is here to
usher in sixty five million plus gen X eighties kids
and those who wish they were into Web three through
(02:20):
relatable education and core memories from childhood. So first, Sarah's
going to walk us through some basic terminology you've heard
thrown around, you know, like crypto, the metaverse, NFTs, and
hopefully through this next half hour our conversation helps you
understand the space better so moms can also get involved
and find community in the world a Web three. So
(02:43):
come on, moms, travel back to the future with us.
You are a host of a Twitter space. Every week
that's starts it is ABC's of NFTs. It seems like
you all, I've graduated onto bigger and better themes, but
(03:07):
like for my audience, can we bring it back to
those early sessions that you did and just kind of
walk the listeners through the basic terminology they need to
know if they're crypto curious.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Here's the elevator version of the things I've been absorbing.
If you can just latch onto one little thing, you
know'll just be a negative information to push you forward. So,
you know, before I start talking about NFTs, you have
to talk about the bigger picture buzzwords that have been
floating around, like Web three. You know, you have to
talk about Web one and Web two before you talk
about Web three. So Web one was the first phase
(03:40):
of the Internet, and it was just reading. You couldn't
do anything other than look at it and read it
and scroll. And you know, it is the eighties to
early two thousands.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
It was like when we dialed into AOL you need to.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Like kicked off and suddenly picked up the phone exactly.
So Web two is the version that we exist in
right now. It's interactive. You know, under you can create content,
you can consume content, you can interact with it, you
can chat with your friend, can buy and sell things
on Etsy. You know, that's influencers, Instagram influencers exactly. You
(04:14):
could be an influencer on Instagram and you piss one
person off and you get banned for life and boom,
you know, their theirs sources.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Or they change the algorithm and then get as many followers, right,
I mean that that's the big thing.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
So you think you have this great thing going and
then poof, you know, your livelihood is affected. And that's
pretty scary to not really have control over that. So
to have access to all these wonderful Web two things,
your information is kind of bought and sold by these
big corporations. So privacy, concern security and control over your
online information is kind of non existing. So with Web
(04:46):
three is a collective we rather than just centralized entities.
It's a way to cut out the MIDDLEMAM is the
best way I can put it, and just be able
to reach the people you want to reach immediately and
vice verse and create revenue streams based on that. I
can move on.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Yes, let's move on.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
So how to NTS, Crypto and everything kind of build
on this structure.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
People confuse crypto with NFTs, and crypto is different from NFTs.
Crypto is a currency that you It's just money basically,
but it's digital money on the blockchain, and you can
buy it and sell it. That's all you can do
with it. NFTs are different because NFTs are actually called
non fungible tokens and they are bought with crypto, but
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they are not crypto, like a non fungible object is
a piece of artwork, like the Mona Lisa, or your dog.
Like your dog is non fungible, you can't swap out
your dog. So and token just means digital file. So
this is where my gen xy stuff comes in. I
think of a non fungible token it's like a cabbage
patch kid's birth certificate. Oh my gosh, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
I never thought of it that way, right.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
It's like a certificate of authenticity of ownership. And instead
of being on paper and stored in a shoe box
under your bed, it's stored on the blockchain. The way
I make the blockchain makes sense to me. It's like
it's a ledger. So when you go and they stamp
the library book, you can see the stamps of all
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the people that have had it before you. And so
it's a way to look back at the history of
who has checked out the book, and that's the blockchain. Essentially,
you can trace your token all the way back, so
you know it's authentic, you know it's real, you know
it has you know who's owned it previously, and it
just creates a source of validation and security.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Who would have thought eighties nostalgia can explain NFTs in
the blockchain, But it's really that simple. NFTs are tokenized
digital files that represent digital or real world items like artwork,
real estate, property rights, and a bunch of other things.
Tokenizing these real world tangible assets makes buying and selling
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and trading them much more efficient, just like the old
school method of checking out a library book by rubber
stamping the checkout and due date on the card. Each
transaction is recorded on the blockchain, most of them so
far on the Ethereum blockchain, so you can trace the
history of transactions, reducing the probability of fraud. So why
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is all this important Because in the current iteration that
we're experiencing, which is mostly in digital art form, NFTs
are creating a global marketplace, a peer to peer transaction
for artists and content creators. Just process that for a moment,
artists are able to sell straight to consumers, democratizing who
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is an artist and allowing content to be distributed without
a middleman, you know, like an auction house or large distributor,
more quickly and broadly. Traditionally, artists or creators only get
paid once on the initial sale, but since NFTs are
digital tokens, artists and creators can program royalties into their
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NFT and that ensures that they get a portion of each.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Future sale of their creation.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Also, many NFT projects, including gen x NFT, donate a
percentage of their funds to charity of their choice. Currently,
open c is the largest digital marketplace for NFTs where
you can buy, sell, and discover digital items. Next, Sarah
and I discuss a great example of how NFTs allow
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people to crowdsource with like minded individuals quickly and provide
impact while building community.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Web three. It's very easy to find like minded people
that are that have your passion and mission, and then
you can just be a part of that experience and
learn things about this new technology and the way the
future will be along the way. If you can create
something or be a part of something where you have
a little bit of ownership, a what does that do
for your soul and your spirit? But be also you
can you have a voice, and you can make some money.
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If you're an artist, you can make a huge impact
really fast and more bang for your buck in this space.
And then if you find other people that are aligned
with your mission, they do it as well, and boom
you have a movement.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
How did you learn about crypto?
Speaker 4 (09:29):
For me?
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Once I decided that this was something I wanted to
research that it wasn't that much material out there, and
like I was watching YouTube videos of like crypto Bros
And listening to podcasts, There's just very little material that
I felt I could relate to. So maybe just talk
about your rabbit hole moment, like made what kind of
clicked in your mind? And then how did you go
(09:52):
about research it?
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Just like you? It was just like a super young
tech bro speaking a language I didn't understand. My sister
got me into it, which was so cool back into
youenty eighteen. She was like, there's this thing called crypto
and bitcoin. You need to buy it.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
And so is your sister older or young?
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Is older? She's two years older, which is okay.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Because my brother got me into it, but he's eight
years younger. Oh, so it was like a millennial who
brought me in?
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Yeah, what's funny. My gen X sister brought me in,
but my gen Z nephew.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
According to a Morning Consult study, the largest group of
NFT collectors are millennials at twenty three percent. Only eight
percent of Gen X, four percent of Gen Z, and
two percent of baby boomers say they collect NFTs, with
men being more than three times as likely to be
NFT collectors as women. Sarah continues with the story of
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her Web three rabbit hole.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Moment when Mark Zuckerberg put out that metaverse video. Do
you remember that video where.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
He like, no, what is it?
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Oh my gosh. She was like standing in the metaverse.
It was like the first mention of the word metaverse.
It kind of made metaverse go mainstream. So I had
a legit panic attack. I started thinking, Wow, this metaverse
is going to be like that movie Ready Player one,
where everybody lives in this virtual world and the rest
of the world is going to hell. Yeah, that's that's interesting.
Like the rabbit hole moment was kind of me having
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a panic attack about what Web three could be and
then suddenly thinking, oh my gosh, I have to protect
my daughter. This is obviously her future. I need to
learn this language. I need to understand it so I
can have protect her from it and educate her about
it and keep her safe and grow with her and
you know, have something in common with her.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
I love that you had like that Mama Bear moment.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
You're like, oh my gosh it, if you're going to
go down, I'm going down with you totally.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
We're all going to be living in the metaverse. They're
going to be my neighbors.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
I think like the whole idea of decentralization really makes
sense to me.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
And giving ownership to the creators.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
I think that's kind of like my rabbit hole moment
when I read about NFTs and I was in the
middle of homeschooling and everything too. On web two, you
can google anything and you can make a lesson plan.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Right, all these teachers and educators or whoever creates these,
it's all offered on the web for free. But imagine
if you tokenize it, then you know they don't have
to rely on the royalties from YouTube or the ad
revenues or the impression royalties. Like you own your lesson
plans and they're tokenized and people have to pay you
(12:23):
for it, and I just the freedom that comes from
that I thought was super super fascinating. And that's kind
of like that's where I am now.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
I love that. Yeah, I mean NFTs aren't just art.
They can be music, they can be books, they can
be education, they can be.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Connection, right yeah, any anything they can.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
It's just there's what they are, what they are now
and what they will be is just night and day.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
So what do you do with all your NFTs? Like
do you keep them on your computer?
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Like?
Speaker 5 (12:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (12:52):
They how do they bring you joy?
Speaker 2 (12:55):
My NFT is bring me joy whenever I go to
open see and I click and I ope them up
and I look at them. I think eventually I would
love to make physical prints of them and create like
an NFT all kind of you know, you see this
thing behind me. Those are just samples of my NFT
collection coming out, But I'd love to make, you know,
my own art gallery. If I'm talking to people out
there that are listening about well what do I get
(13:17):
for it? You can hold on to it and hope
it increases in value, which is one way to make
money from it, and then you can sell it. You
own it. It's a piece of art that you own.
You can make t shirts out of it. I've seen
people start bands. I've seen people you know, make cartoon
around there around their NFTs. Yeah, because you own the property.
You it's your piece of art.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
There is utility for people who buy it besides just
like putting it on your desktop and looking at it
and like petting it on your exactly exactly you're just
you can actually use it to create revenue streams if
you choose to. While Sarah and I spoke about the
utility of NFTs for buyers, I think one of the
most powerful illustrations of the impact of Web three for
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women and for moms is the personal story of miss
al Simpson. She is a Scottish digital and collage artist
and one of the artists of the Seneca Woman Equality Collection,
which was an NFT drop of six pieces created by
global female artists, where the proceeds of that sale were
donated to the nonprofit Vital Voices in support of Ukrainian women.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
So Miss Alsimson's.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Self portrait for the collection featured the phrases peer to peers, genderless.
iHeart NFTs equality is decentralized. Web three equals no middleman.
These are all themes Sarah and I have spoken about
so far in our conversation and the tenants of Web
three that really change the trajectory of Miss Alsinson's life.
(14:47):
Shortly after her divorce, so.
Speaker 5 (14:49):
I got divorced and you know, the laws in Scotland
quite harsh on mothers on divorce and my business because
it required a law capital. You know, I kind of
woundered and that business kind of went to the wayside,
but my art kind of held me up. And then
as soon as the blockchain happened, I just know that
a huge potential for me as an artist. And as
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that started to happen and the sales started to come in,
just that feeling of gradual more and more financial independence
really rags to riches, to be honest, just it's so empowering,
and I just think this huge potential with Web three
for women, for mothers to really burst through.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
You're listening to Cashing our Trillion. Miss Allismson's story of
transforming her life from being a penniless artist to one
of the most successful international female crypto artists highlights how
the blockchain has given her the opportunities to reach her
full potential and achieve financial freedom to support herself and
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her children. Sarah extends his thought and reflects on how
understanding Web three is a natural progression in momming as
we keep up with the technologies that will fuel our
children's lives. Now, like you're spreading this NFT gospel, Like,
what do you think is the AHA moment for other moms? Like,
(16:10):
as you're educating them in this process.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Sadly the bad has been more highlighted than the good
in the NFT world. For the aha moment for moms
is like, regardless of all of that, protect your kids
because they won't think it's this. They will think it's amazing.
And it is a different language to learn. So the
early year you speak this language of Web three, the
early year you'll be able to communicate with your children
(16:34):
as this becomes their everyday reality, you know. And I'm likeways,
don't be a boomer about it, don't it's so funny,
Like we're acting like it doesn't exist, or we stick
our head in the sands. It's happening. You don't need
to like that.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Oh, what's happening right now? I think like, because we
were chatting before about ed three. I think that's probably
how our children might transition into it, and using AI
in the classrooms. I mean it's especially now, like I
don't know how it is in Hawaii, but Arizona we
have a major teacher shortage, right, and then using AI
or you know, learning in the metaverse might be the solution.
(17:11):
And especially we've all gone through the pandemic, we've all homeschooled,
and there's a lot of asynchronous learning now and that's
more socially acceptable. I think, you know, Web three kind
of balances that totally.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Actually, like you said, educators, they want to actually see
what this all is about and then use that technology
to you know, uplift what they're doing currently. Then I
think that's and bring more people into it. So I
think that's great.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
Let's maybe back up a little.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
So we kind of gave everyone like a breakdown of
all the vocab and then the different terminology we use.
I think there's a little bit of a leap, like, Okay,
now I kind of know what it is. That sounds interesting,
But then how do I get involved? Like how like
what are the logistical next steps? Like all those NFTs
behind you they look amazing, but like how do I
buy that exactly.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
So for newbies coming in, I think the best thing
to do is to find a community that you like
and trust, and then look for their educational resources, because
most of them will have them. You know, I have
them on my website. You know, there's another really great
women led a collection called The Hug which is founded
(18:20):
by Randy Zuckerberg. And then there's my BFF, which is
founded by a bunch of celebrities, but they're doing really
good things for women and non binary people in the space.
And so you can go to any of these kind
of more well known communities and just fart around on
their discord or go to their YouTube page and just
kind of educate yourself. Takes a minute. It's kind of annoying,
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but once you set it up then you're good to go.
But for me, because I'm a gen xer and because
this is also confounding, and I'm a mom, and I
don't have time, right and if I want to get
you know, sixty five million gen xers or even just
my Facebook mom group, you know, come on in. If
they were like, Okay, I have ten minutes, how do
I buy an NFT? You know, a lot of collections
are now giving you the ability to purchase them with
(19:04):
credit cards. My first NFT was the Matrix NFT, and
I bought it with a credit card and they created
an instant wallet for me and okay, and so it
just sits there and I can transfer it into my
own wallet should I choose to create a wallet later.
So that's what a lot of collections are doing now,
and that's what I'm doing with mine too.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Oh that's good to know because I've definitely been lazy
on that. Like I've bought the coins and the cryptocurrency,
but to make that leap to NFTs or like sometimes
I'll see they're like, oh, click on this to buy
the NFT, and then I'm they're like, oh, you have
to create a wallet, Like yeah, that's too much work,
or I need to research a little bit more.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
So that that's definitely been a limiting thing for me.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
One hundred percent. And it can be kind of scary
because it's gone, that's the mom and us, right, Like, yeah,
take responsibility for your own actions one hundred percent. You
don't want to lose that. You have to really trust
yourself and that's hard, you know. When I was a
new mom, I didn't know what I was doing, and
so you have to learn to grow and trust. And
you know, that's one thing where the community of web
(20:06):
three is so vital because this is where you find
your people and they support you and you can bounce
ideas off of them. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
I think I read that in your buzz Speed article, right,
You're talking about how there is this like loving, awesome
Web three community for sure.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
So you know, I feel just like the women in
the space, You're just like true heroes. They're so unwanted
because the tech bros are like, eh, and especially older
women in this space, like I have no business being here, right,
Like I am forty five, I'm a mom. I don't
have a tech background, but I'm here and there are
a lot of us I'm here, but yeah, it's great.
(20:44):
One of my mom friends brand from lux Ladies NFT,
great collection. She helped me build my discourse, and another mom,
a tired m she helped build my website because she's
a web developer. Met A Women's Club NFT are starting
a university in the Meta a Verse where they will
educate women and non binary and LGBTQIA three so they
(21:06):
can get a job in web three and they bought
land in the Metaverse and they're building a university and
it's really cool.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
So yeah, so we just all uplift each other. It's
not competitive. The mom led communities, they have spaces that
moms can come in and lean on for support, even
if it has nothing to do with Web three. So
like my tired mom's friend Diana, her discord actually has
kind of an on site doula. So if you join
the discord, don't need to buy the NFT, can go
(21:33):
in there and you can like ask questions to this
really educated person about just postpartum stuff and mom stuff.
We're all still human, we all still want connection. This
is just another way to connect people. And I love
that because even in like the real world, you don't
really find that a lot women can get competitive and
moms can get competitive.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
Who has the best birthday party?
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Like I do? In the verse?
Speaker 2 (21:56):
You know? Or I can you imagine?
Speaker 1 (21:58):
But yeah, like one friend shows up, I want this
to click for moms.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Yeah, me too. I hope that my collection and other
collection there are women led make it so easy to
just like read one thing for five minutes and then
they get it. Oh I understand now kind of frazzled
rambly mom who you know has seems to have done
a bunch of I don't know. I mean, it just
(22:29):
takes courage and curiosity. You're just learning something new and
you can do it safely if you find the right people.
So many moms that I've encountered, it's so interesting to
see the lack of interest. But I think we're just
all really tired because of COVID, because of homeschooling, because
of the abortion band, because of all the stuff that's
(22:50):
going on, and it's like one more thing to have
to learn.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
I'm a mom, like, I'm just too tired to learn
something new, Like you just said, you just said a
whole bunch words that make no sense to me, And
I have no desire to learn something new when I
have three kids to pick up a dish full of sink,
like and like you know, a million things on my
(23:18):
to do list, like if this doesn't put food on
the table and change my life, like I'm out.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
You know that's so well put unless you're really active
in it, and a trader or a creator or a flipper,
a collector, you're not. It's not going to put on
food on the table right now. It's but if you
aren't at least curious about it now, it will never
put food on the table, and then by the time
it does drag you into it, there won't be any
(23:48):
room left for you. It's kind of dystopian now that
I think about it. That's why I got to get
in not every takeover first, you need to get in there.
We get shipped one. Look at what we did when
zoom School happened with like three days, we had, you know,
twenty million kids on zoom School. Like, if you have
to make a change drastically, like moms are the people
they're going to do it.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
True, that's true. Talk a little bit like maybe about
your origin story, like you're very much a childhood the eighties,
but like perhaps walk us through your life before you
enter the NFT space.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
It worked in TV show reality casting for a good decade.
I worked on Survivor and a Bachelor. That kind of
segued into me writing about it. I've been doing NFTs
for about a year and I've been able to juggle
both and I do the mom life stuff and that,
you know, school and lunch and breakfast and all that.
I still do my day job, but it's on my time,
(24:41):
which is great. So that's kind of my origin story
as far as how what I did before NFTs. But
I actually I was thinking about this a lot as
a woman in this space and as a mom in
this space. I was eighteen years old living in Seattle
during the dot com boom, and I missed it completely.
And I think back to that eighteen year old girl, like, man,
what could she have done in that time? Have actually
(25:01):
had access or education? Today, I see Web three starting
to happen, and I'm like, well, I don't want to
miss this boat too, And I think about that for
so many other women and moms and marginalized individuals, how
they too are probably thinking, hmm, it's just too much,
it's too hard. I have tech experience, and it's just
about finding the people that you resonate with and relate
(25:23):
to and can trust. And there's a certain amount of
you know, living on a prayer, you know, a little
faith you have to have in yourself.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
But that's amazing, and it's all working towards yourself and
promote and creating revenue streams for yourself. Like can you
can you.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Just give some examples of like how you're personally finding
financial freedom through the blockchain and doing this NFT.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Work as an NFT founder, you know, creator of this collection.
The ultimate goal will be a launch of this NFT collection.
We'll hopefully sell it out and everybody will be really
happy because they have a great NFT and utility from
that NFT and then the revenue stream I'll get for
myself is hopefully a little revenue from that, and then
you know, but most of it'll be immediately put back
(26:06):
into the business so we can do another collection. And
it's exciting to think about me, who doesn't really have
any business being a business, a business owner or a
tech person, but doing it because I'm so passionate about
it and I'm learning every day, and it just shows
me that there is a seat at the table for
anybody in this space. You know, I've worked with entertainment,
I've worked in advertising. I've succeeded in anything I've ever done,
(26:29):
so this hopefully will just be another place I do that.
You know, it takes very little to start an NFT collection,
It takes very little to buy an NFT. It takes
no money to join a community. Oh oh, and this
is another thing you could get paid by a company
to go and explain to them what an NFT is,
like become a consultant in Web three there. You know,
think about ten years ago, nobody knew what a social
media manager was either everywhere. Now, even if you don't
(26:52):
want to make an NFT, don't want to buy an NFT,
never want to own crypto, you could still have a
very lucrative career in Web three.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
And because you just just to have knowledge of amazing yeah,
and to teach other people. I guess because it's so
new and people need to get up to speed. But
I think once, once you get a taste of it,
and once you latch onto something, I think you really
get sucked in total is what I noticed.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Oh I think, so this will be a college major.
I mean, this will be a full on college major.
You think abouts.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
And my fifth grader is going to learn about it
this year.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Oh my gosh. See, and I love that. I think that,
you know, it's a moment in time and it's happening,
so you should learn about.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Like he's going to do a chapter on economics, and
bitcoin will be explained to him.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
I don't know how, but and then honestly he can
go and give speeches to companies and be a little
entrepreneur because he will probably know so much more it's
all said and done.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
Yeah, we'll see.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
So I've been staring behind you at your collection. Talk
about it, like, where did you get this idea for
this latch key kid collection? Maybe like describe it to people?
Speaker 5 (28:06):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Sure, Yeah, I want to be the ambassador for gen
X women in this space specifically, so you know, I'm like,
if a Tara gen X mom could do it, anybody can.
And you know, so my collection is three thousand latch
key kids because growing up in the eighties and early nineties,
you know, you were a latchkey kid. You wore a
chain around your neck to get you in the door
(28:28):
to and you would go and eat your cereal and
watch cartoons until a parent came home, and then.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
You were a lad.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
I was a las key kid, absolutely, both my parents
were and kids are young goats.
Speaker 4 (28:38):
So the so the visuals of actual art, they're like
cute little goats, but they're but they're throwbacks, are pop
culture retro throwbacks, and so you can have some nostalgia
about your youth in these NFTs.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
So a lot of them are have the hairstyles or
the wardrobe, or they're holding cool little things trapper keepers
and magic gate balls and you know, all of.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
These things that see a cast behind.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
I know, we have a collection of generative art. Basically,
you create all these amazing pieces of art and then
you mix them all together and then they come up
with these generative pieces, so you don't exactly know what
you're getting, and then that's what makes them unique. And
and then also I also have created some one of
ones which are hand drawn, totally original, unlike any other
(29:26):
of homages to gen x icons.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
So that's what's behind me.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Yeah, that's a lot of behind me. Yeah, so you
can see people that we loved from our youth. Oh
my gosh, is that Bob Ross? Yes, I need Bob Ross.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
You know, have to go online and look for that one.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Yeah, it's fun. Yeah, we're we're starting to do reveals
and we're starting to kind of ramp up for our
for our launch date, and it's actually really cool. We're
doing some collaborations with in real life brands of eighties brands.
That's why it makes uh winning an NFT drop really exciting,
because you don't know what you're gonna get, you'll buy
and you could get a super duper rare one that's
(30:06):
like instantly worth a ton of money, or it's instantly
something you want, or or you could just get another
cool piece of art and they're all like.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
Cool Pokemon cards exactly.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Yeah, they're collectibles exactly. Dot of what people do is
they find one that looks like them and then they
use that as their avatar, which is really fine.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
That's what you see on the Twitter handles exact exactly.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
I want to be an easy entry point for people
to get into this space and hopefully fall in love
with it, so they can then see the world that's
opened up to them and be like, oh, there's another
NFT collection that's trying to save the national forests. Oh
and there's another NFT collection that's working with indigenous people.
Once they're in here, they can see this world opened
up today.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
And it's like, so it sounds like you're in this
space for the long haul too, I mean, because maybe
talk about the difficulties of doing this right now in
a crypto winter kind of environment as well.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Right, Yeah, it's definitely slowed down and got quiet, even
got quiet for a while. I was a little like,
oh man, what's going on here? But I found I
found my brave again, and I went for it.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
And I noticed that, like my dollar costs average into this,
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
You know, it's low and slow. I'm like a nice brisket,
you know. I take it very slow and observe, and
I'm like, okay, we'll get there someday. I'm not in
a rush. I'm in this for the long run. And
I think that this crypto winner has really created a
smaller community and you can connect directly with higher uppers
(31:33):
that you might not have had access to before.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
Just like me being able to touch all.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
Well, it's quieter, it's smaller, and it's not so fomo hype.
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
If you don't buy.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Land next to Snoop Dogg in the metaverse, you're gonna lose,
you know. So no, this just get in starts small,
poke your nose around, be like, oh okay, this is interesting.
What are they doing? You know, people get caught up
in the tech and web three and the crypto and
all that stuff, but it at its very base, it's
just humans connecting with humans through art, and I think
that that's an important thing to note, because I think
that gets lost a lot.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
About it. Yeah, yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
Everyone's like always all more focused on the technology, and
it will.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
The technology will definitely change, like the technology and it's
great and it should and it won't always be about
what it's about now. But right now, this is what
it's about. And if it interests you, learn about it
and be a part of it. It's a it's a cheap,
easy way to be a part of a future that
is going to completely transform the world.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
Yeah, I mean, we won't be holding those Cabbage Patch
kid bird certificates.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
Forever, right, exactly. All right, it's Sara. My last question
for you. How will you cash your trillions?
Speaker 2 (32:49):
So I think about it as a lot My dream
in life is to own a home, and it's very
difficult to do. And so I will cash my trillions
by purchasing a how or at least getting money for
a down payment on a house. That is how I
cash in Hawaii, in Hawaii if possible, but you know what,
in this market, it can't be too picky. But yeah, ideally, man,
(33:13):
if I could, I would buy a house in Hawaii.
That would be an amazing way to cash my trillions.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
The information provided in this episode does not constitute investment, financial,
or trading advice. Please conduct your own due diligence and
consult your financial advisor before making any investment decision. This
episode was produced by me and sound edited by Shehen.
(33:45):
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