September 15, 2025 • 46 mins
From Bachelor Nation, to Next Gen NYC?
You never know what Kit Keenan is cooking up next when the foodie influencer tells Gia her reality TV days aren’t over yet. Hear the twenty-somethings bond over having famous moms AND their instagram official boyfriends!
Plus, hear the status of Kit's friendship with Bachelor Nation’s Rachel Kirkconnell, and the red flags she says she missed when asked about Matt James!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hey guys, and welcome back to another week of Casual Chaos.
This week, I have a very exciting guest, Kit Keaton.
Welcome to Casual Chaos.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Hi, thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
I'm so excited that you're here. You're actually one of
my first influencer guests.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Really, Oh my gosh, fun. I'm honored.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
I'm excited. I've been wanting to have one of my
influencer friends on for so long and honestly, just talk
about our life and what we do and how we
make our own money and what we do for work,
because I feel like there's a lot of talk about it.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Yeah, and also I feel like there's a lot of
misunderstanding around it.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
I agree, I totally agree. So you are definitely a
part of the New York influencing group and you guys
received a lot of backlash this year. How did you
handle all of that?
Speaker 3 (00:56):
I feel like there was a lot of discourse this
year around like the New City influencer scene. But from
my perspective, like I have grown up in this world,
and when I was in high school, the New York
City influencer scene was so different because it was like
the blogger era, So it was something navy and we
(01:17):
wore what and like those girls that started the fashion blogs,
and that was what being an influencer was.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
It was being a blogger. And over time.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
That has developed, and like when I moved back, I
went to college in LA, and when I moved back
to New York, there was this whole explosion of like
the TikTok world and that created kind of the next
generation of New.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
York City influencers.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
And from my experience, like I have just met the
most supportive and Greek girls and I feel so lucky
because when I was living in LA was not like that.
Like the influencer scene in LA was definitely not as
like supportive and community based as it is in New York.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
So yeah, I feel.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Like there's been there's always people like trying to stir
the pot and create tea and all of that. But like,
from my personal experience, I have so many close friends
in the space, and I feel so lucky that it's
not like a dog eat dog world and that it
is very supportive. So that's been my experience and I
(02:22):
can like only really speak on that. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
No, And even when all of that was going around,
I'm sitting there like well, I also do this content,
and it's just like kind of what we're all focused
on in our daily life. We are showing everyone what
we do on a day to day basis, how we
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go about our mornings, or how spend a day in
my life. And that's genuinely the content that I enjoy watching,
not even if it's just my content, but even if
I'm watching your cooking videos or if I'm watching acquired
stuff spend the morning with me, those are videos that
I genuinely enjoy watching on a day to day basis,
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and that resonate with me. So, no matter what, everyone's
going to have their opinion, and I think we all
do a pretty good job.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Also, like you've met all of my girls. Yeah, Like
everyone is so like welcoming and nice. Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
So yeah, I just I feel very lucky, honestly.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
No, definitely. So let's start from the beginning. Were you
born and raised in New York City?
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Born and raised in New York City?
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Yeah, So I went to USC for a year and
a half in southern California, and I lived in LA,
then transferred back finished at NYU, and then I moved
back to LA after college because I was kind of
thinking like maybe I just didn't love La and college
because I was in college and like I didn't really
(03:58):
have my bearings and whatever, and I wanted to give
La like a good try, and so I moved back
for a year and I still like didn't feel.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
At home there.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
But other than that, like I've lived in New York
City my whole life, I feel like it's just so
hard to leave. And my mom is like, my mom
is such a New York woman, Like she will never
leave New York City. So and on my dad's side,
their third generation Brooklyn New Yorkers, so like that whole
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side of my family is also New York City people,
like they will never leave. So I feel like for me,
I just have my roots here and it's so hard
to leave.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
And you know that quote that's like when you leave
New York you're going nowhere.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
That is so just like hits for me because I
feel like I've traveled all over the world, but.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
My heart will always be in New York City.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
I also feel like it's kind of like me, you
can't take the girl out of Jersey. And I'm slowly
transitioning to make my move closer to the City, which
I'm so excited about. But I'm looking in the Jersey City.
We hawk in Upper Hoboken area. I'm like, that's perfect
for me.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
I have so many actually have so many influencer friends
who live in that area because like there's great buildings
with amazing natural light. Maybe we all all are looking
for and it's like close enough to the city that
you can go to events and like do that whole thing,
but also have your piece.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
You know, definitely, And that's kind of what I'm looking for.
Every apartment building that I call, they're like, what are
you looking for? I go, modern apartment, amazing views, natural light,
and just an easy commute to the city. Yeah, and
those buildings in that area pretty much have that. And
what I would get for my money in those areas
(05:55):
is just so much more than what I would get
in New York. Yeah, It's just it's so worth it
because I don't have a timeline. I don't have an
end date where my mom is like, you need to
get out of the house.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
So wait, you live at home. I live at home, Okay,
I live at home. Okay.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
So I love that for us, literally love that for us.
That is so funny. We need to talk about that,
because like, I feel like I have so many people
that are like, when are you going to move out?
Speaker 2 (06:24):
And honestly, like I've.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Been thinking about it because I've been working since I
was eighteen, Like I'm ready now to buy an apartment
in New York.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Yeah, but I'm just like, it's so nice living at home.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
It's so nic gets shooting eyed every single day and
they're like, oh, you're living off mommy's money. This is
what you're doing. You're living at home. Oh, Mommy's paying
your bills. And I'm like, only if you knew, like
that car insurance payment runs on my debit card every
three months, you know, just the little things where it's
obviously people are going to talk, people are gonna judge.
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But if I can live at home and save my money,
why wouldn't I. Yeah, I am on the show next Gen.
Am I safe? Yes, thank you? But it's crazy because
I almost I felt pressured, but I also knew that
it is the right time for me to move out,
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just because commuting from Jersey is a lot, especially when
we have a bunch of events. I'll come into the
city like right now to do my podcast and then
after this, I have an Amazon Live, then I'll have
three to four hours like in between my Amazon Live
or in between my podcast and events where I don't
know what to do, and I'm just like walking around
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the city. Not like not that you're never bored, but
you know, I can't go home to refresh myself or
like get changed because the commute's too much. I would
be stuck in traffic. And that's where things would get
inconvenient for me because the commute would be too much,
and I either mis events or literally do it twice
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in a day, Like I would come in, go home, change,
and then come back. So it just became exhausting. And
now being on Next Gen, all of my castmates live
on their own, whether they are supporting themselves or you know,
they're having the help of their parents, whatever it is,
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they all do live on their own. And I was
the only one living at home, so and it was
almost this like, oh, she lives in Jersey and it's
a far commute for her to come to New York,
when I was like, I'm in the city every day. Yeah,
it's more so it was exhausting and I want to
try to make my life a little easier and optimize
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what's in New York and be able to go to
everything that I want to go do. So I think
that's why at this point in my life, I'm like, Okay,
I kind of need to make that move, and you
probably totally understand it. We could be going to four
events at night, just bopping around trying to show your
face at each event, So it's definitely a lot if
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you're not in this area. So that's why I'm like,
as much as I could stay at home until I
get married, I feel like that's literally a decision for
me right now.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
I am like in that same exact boat.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
I'm like, I should I just like wait until I
move in with my boyfriend to like move out at
my mom's house. But I also feel like, I it's
like a good investment always, and I just think that,
like it is it forces you out of your comfort
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zone a little bit in a way that I think
will be really great for me. I just need to
like wait until I find the perfect place and all
of that, of course, but it's nice to not have
that pressure, you know, So is it just you?
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Just me?
Speaker 3 (09:59):
My mom and I have a younger sister who's twenty
oh yeah, yeah, Okay.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Are you guys your little sorority house.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
We know well because you guys are pretty close in
age though, I mean she's actually we're five years apart.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Okay, my little sister, Gigi is like my best friend
in the entire world. And yeah, when we were little,
I feel like the five year age difference really made
such a difference, and she felt so young to me,
and I was like, we're not homies like that, And
then I think once she turned eighteen, it was like, Okay,
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we're like doing similar things in life, and like, I
feel like we're in the same chapter. She did the
same thing for college, where she like went away for
a year and a little bit and like went abroad
for a bit and then came back and transferred to NYU.
So like same situation as me, and we're.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Just so similar.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Like I feel so lucky to say that if me
and my sister weren't sisters, we would be friends. And
I feel like that's not the case for that many people,
but like, genuinely, in my situation, I would want to
be friends with my little sister if we weren't related,
which is.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Too Yeah. Yeah, so your mom is Cynthia Rowley explain
how that was growing up. Were you like her little
doll and she just dressed you all the time growing up?
Speaker 3 (11:40):
I mean you can probably like relate to a lot
of this, like having a mom that's in the public eye.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
And it's funny.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Because I get that question specifically about like my mom
dressing us a lot, and I.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Mean when my mom did that to me and she
wasn't even a fashion designers, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Well, It's what's funny about it is that, like she
actually was so free with what we wore. And I
think it was honestly because she sees like clothing and
design as personal expression and so she was really like,
wear whatever you girls want to wear. And I definitely
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had like some really questionable outfits. And when I was little,
I remember there was one year that I wore a
birthday crown every single day for an entire year, because
like I loved getting the attention from people, like wherever
we would go, people being like happy birthday and like
sending me treats and stuff.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
I literally wore that crown every single day.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
And I remember, like my sister wore a SpongeBob life
jacket to her first day of kindergarten, and my mom
was just like, yeah, like this is their expression, Like
they should be able to wear whatever they want, and
so yeah, that was nice. The only thing I will
say though, is like we had access to a lot
of cool clothes, and so that helped our outfit choices
(13:03):
as we got older, I think, because like we were
always you know, around her closet and like stealing things
from her.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
So yeah, I mean the insfo is unreal. You can
just have endless options at all costs. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah was that? I mean was she who she was
like before you were born? I know this is yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
I mean she like has always been.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Like when did she start like designing clothes.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
Like in the eighties, like a long time ago. Yeah,
And I feel like she's had like so many different
eras of her business. But I think also like in
recent years, it's been cool for me to see and
incorporate like what I do with social media and kind
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of like help her not I don't want to say,
like advise her in that space, because she was always
like I feel like she was one of the first
designers to be like I want to see influencers at
my shows and stuff like that. And she's always been
like very open to that idea.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
But I would.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Say like having me doing what I do has also
helped inform like her social presence and like how her
business is interacting with influencers.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Yeah, even just the social media aspect, like you showing
her trends and how to work TikTok literally the smallest things,
and that's what I have. That's what I do with
my mom. She's like, oh, geea, can we do this?
But can you show me how to add music to this?
And it's all a learning game for them too. And
that's what I do with my mom, even though like
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they're the legends that they are in their own way,
is to teach our moms how to work TikTok and
social media that ye that didn't come to them.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah exactly.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
What is the best worst part about living with a
fashion icon?
Speaker 3 (15:04):
I mean, I guess I think probably the worst part,
like growing up for me was just like the idea
of living in my mom's shadow kind of and just
feeling like I was lost for a lot of my
childhood because my mom found like she started making dresses
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for herself when she was seven years old, like laying
down on a piece of fabric on the floor, tracing
around her body and like sewing a dress to wear
to school.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Like she has always.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
Had this passion from such a young age, and you know,
she has built it into this global brand and it's
been like so amazing to watch that and have her
as you know, an inspiration to me growing up. But
I think I was always like what do I want
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to do? Like I didn't have that same calling, and
so like throughout my childhood, I was always like people
would always ask me, you know, are you going to
take over your mom's business, or like do you want
to work in fashion and whatever?
Speaker 2 (16:12):
And I feel like I've always.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
Had this appreciation for what she does and for clothes
in general, Like I love getting dressed. I love like
sharing that also with my audience and like making that
a part of my personal brand. But for me, like
the fashion industry was never I never felt called to it,
and like genuinely some events and stuff like that would
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like give me a lot of anxiety growing up. And
so then when I was in college, I was like
sharing my life on Instagram already, and I was kind
of like building a smaller audience just like based in
New York and LA and I started just like cooking
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for my friends and family, and it became a passion
of mine, and I would like share things on Instagram
stories here and there, and like get in the dms
and share recipes and stuff.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Like please look insane, like I really want to come over.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Yeah, please please please please, like let me cook creo.
But like I guess I slowly realized over time that
like my audience was interested in that content and it
was something that I felt always like it was a
part of my calling and like it was that same
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process that my mom describes with fashion design, where it's
like you have an idea and you get to bring
something to life and like you get to add your
sparkle to it. And I felt like, oh my gosh,
this is my creative calling, Like this is my creative
outlet that I've been searching for. And then like being
able to share that with an audience that I had
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already been growing was so fulfilling. And now it's like
the biggest part of my online presence and what I.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
See for my future in this space. So yeah, I
think that was like I took that question all over
the place.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
No, no, but I totally understand that.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Was the harder thing growing up was just like, well.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
It's also just the pressure of are you going to
do this? And just like you were saying, okay, am
I gonna Are you gonna take over your mom's company?
And it's gonna be this generational thing and no matter
what your mom's company is will always stand strong. But
I mean, I feel like as much as the pressure
of you taking it over, it's also the pressure within
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yourself of do I really want to always have that
pressure of living under her shadow or maybe not doing
it the way she did it and having that whole pressure.
And I mean it was kind of the same, like
different obviously different scales, but even me coming on to
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reality TV and people just always assuming that I'm like
a mini Teresa, which that's amazing in different aspects, but
you know, my mom is Teresa Judice standing on her own.
I would never be able to be Teresa Judice. I
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could never flip a table and be an icon for
like twenty years or like she's like, you know, she's
an outstanding icon in the reality TV space, and I
want to build that within me and not people just assume, oh,
this is like a mini Teresa in the making, Like, no,
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I want to really show you guys who I am.
And I think that's the constant battle that we will
always kind of find with ourselves as we're trying to
also just show our audience who we really are. So
but as much as I love filming content with my
mom and doing all of that, because she obviously is
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my mom, She's so funny, she is the person that
I look up to, but it does it. There's just
I guess it's just the public that really causes all
the stress and ourselves, but we don't make that too
public exactly. But you posted a video when your mom
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was like saving your clothes and that when viral, that
was like crazy, Yeah, so she just like can do
anything on hand.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
I mean this is like this is also I think
something that people don't really consider anymore because to be
a fashion designer now, like you don't really have to
have the skill of making clothes and sewing. You can
be a fashion designer and you know, make cads with
AI and send it to a factory and have those
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samples me and like you don't need to have the
actual skill of of cutting and sewing and creating patterns
and like the skills that you used to have to
be a fashion designer. But since my mom has been
doing this for so long, she has all those skills
she can so I can, like, like she has made
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so many special pieces for me, like my prom dress,
and like she'll redo vintage items for me and have
them fit me perfectly and like stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
And I always say I have a personal tailor, which.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
Is like so nice, and obviously she's like way more
important than that, is obvious, but like she does have
she does have all of those skills, which is really
cool because she can take something like, you know, a
vintage piece from her closet or you know, something that
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I find on eBay or like something like that and
make it something super special and like give it a
new life for me. But I also just like love
seeing her go through that process because like she'll add
her little touches to things and I'm like, wow, this
is so cool.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
I mean it's sick, yeah, And just like you were saying,
it's kind of crazy, because it also do sows your
appreciation for her that much more. The fact that she
could actually turn something out of nothing and she genuinely
can design and create something beautiful when now it's just
crazy the world that we live in that everything could
be done and created on AI and through a machine
(22:30):
and you don't even have to do any work at
this point. Yeah, which is nuts.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
No, it's crazy, it's wild.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Okay, Well, let's talk about your time on The Bachelor
with Matt James. What made you want to go on
the Bachelor?
Speaker 3 (22:45):
So, I I think still to this day, I was
the youngest person.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
To ever be on The Bachelor.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
How old were I was?
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Twenty one?
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Oh wow.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
And it was just like the type of thing where
I was doing online classes because of COVID and I
got a DM from like this random account. It literally
had eight hundred followers and all the posts on the
account were like Bachelor related casting stuff, and the woman
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reached out to me and she was like, hey, like
I would love to, you know, just get you on
a zoom. We're casting for a new reality dating show.
And I was like, huh, like I wonder what this
is about, but.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Also like it could so be like.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
A scam or something like eight hundred followers on this
random account, like what am I doing? But I ended
up meeting with her and going through the whole process,
and I feel like it was just the type of
thing where I was thinking to myself, like, I'm twenty one,
I'll never do something like this again in my life,
you know. Like it was just like something at the
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time that I was thinking of in a lighthearted way.
And again, I probably should have like considered it a
little bit more because it could have gone so in
the opposite direction. And like you see people's entire careers
like ruined by reality TV. But lucky for me, like
it wasn't that bad. I got a good edit, as
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they will say in the industry. But I feel like I, yeah,
I just wanted to take a risk, and I feel
like I had been sort of in this bubble of
like New York City, the fashion scene kind of, and
I was just like, I want to do something that
takes me out of that world and like something that's
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really on my own, because like, as much as people
will always tie me to my mom and my family,
I feel like doing something that was just so unexpected, unexpected,
and like in fact, my mom was like, what are
you doing. I feel like it was kind of my
rebellious stage a little bit. And again, it was just
something that like I knew I would not have done
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later in life.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
And it was just like a let me just do
this and see what happened.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
I mean, I was also probably like you were saying,
when you were trying to like find yourself, so you
were probably just like, let me do something that makes
me be seen and makes me step out of my
comfort zone and do something that people wouldn't expect from
Cynthia Rally's daughter.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
And it's it's like some people get piercing, some people
go like, get a tattooing, some people go, yeah, I
get a tattoo, and some people go on reality TV?
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Yeah did you get what you wanted out of it?
Speaker 3 (25:40):
Honestly, Like I was so surprised, Like I look back.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
On that experience and I'm like, oh my gosh, that
was a fever dream.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
Would you ever like, now I'm a boyfriend, so well
you not a dating show? But I would definitely do
reality TV again. It just like depends on if it's
the right setting for me and stuff, and I would
like want it to be something that would tell a
little bit more of my story.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Next time, I might say.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Yeah, maybe, Honestly, my dream Hello.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
So I think like for me, it was such a
surprising experience because when I got there, I was like,
this is kind of a joke. And again, like I
was just like, okay, Like this is a guy that
is twenty eight, he lives in New York, Like I
probably would have gone on a date with him at
the time, like twenty one, I was dating around like whatever,
and I got there and I was like, yeah, but
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I probably won't actually like him. And then overtime, I
think it's partially because you're just in this bubble where
like every.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
Almost like you're in like a simulation.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
No literally, and like everyone around you was like this
is the best guy ever, like we all want him,
blah blah blah, and then you kind of like get
convinced overtime, and like also like I had like good
conversations with him and like I felt like we vibed also,
so that added to the confusion a little bit. But
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I think like in the back of my mind always
I was like, this is still a show, Like we're
still putting on a show. Like let's keep that in
the back of my mind. But people definitely get swept
up in.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
It for sure.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
Oh I'm sure, yeah, when the season was going on,
because obviously he ended up with Rachel and now this
whole thing happened between him and Rachel and it was
all over because then after the Bachelor, they were also
in the influencing world and really like and we're very
successful with their tiktoks and everything like that. Have you
(27:44):
ever seen them around at events?
Speaker 3 (27:46):
And I'm still friends with Rachel and I genuinely love her,
like I want the absolute best for her, and we've
been friends like when they were together.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Too, So I feel like, just like after the show.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
It was kind of like, okay, yeah, technically we all
dated your boyfriend, but like at the same time, it
again like I think it's coming back to reality and
being like, Okay, that was a show. Yeah, like nothing happened,
Like it's just totally fine. And I just like always
thought that she was such a great girl and still do.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
I haven't really seen him, honestly, and I think.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
Really seen him at a couple events, Okay, like over
the past year, any of the red flags that were
obviously know now, yeah, did you ever did you guys
ever feel that when you guys were filming.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
Like it was so long ago at this point, and
I feel like I was so much like I don't know,
like I just didn't see it at the time, and
I think.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
Well, like you said, you're all gagging over this god like,
so there's like for him, just you're not like looking, oh,
is that a red flag or you know, little things
like that, where when obviously Rachel became open about talking
about it, I guess it could totally be understandable, like
(29:11):
what he was doing, Yeah, how that could have been,
Like how that was happening during that relationship.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
I feel like everyone can relate to that idea that
you like are dating someone and like in the moment,
you're so obsessed with them and like all of.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Their red flags just go right over your head.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
And then like you look back, like years later when
you're healed or just like on to like a help,
when you're in a healthy relationship, and you're like, oh
my gosh, I can't believe that I normalized that behavior
like that was so whack. But in the moment, you
just like don't see it.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
You don't see it, you're so blind to it. Yeah,
but I'm happy she's doing great, well, he's doing good. Yeah, yeah, Yeah,
did your guy friends view you differently after the Bachelor.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
I mean, to be honest, like I don't really have
that many guy friends, Like I feel like I really
I have like a few, but like I'm just I've
and I've always been this way, like I'm just a
girls like girls girl like I I don't know, I
like genuinely, until like I started dating my boyfriend, men
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were like so foreign to me, and I just like
I love girling around and like hanging.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
With the girls.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
So I have like a few guy friends and like
family guy friends and stuff like that that I remember
people being like, huh, that's interesting. But yeah, I feel
like no one was no one really questioned it that
much because I feel like I was already on social
media and kind of like doing.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
That whole thing. Yeah that it made sense at the time.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
No, yeah, I get it. I mean even with my boyfriend,
his friends are my friends.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
Yeah, exactly. So it's exactly like.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
I don't have like anyone else who I would say,
who I would call up and be like hey, like no,
it's my boyfriend's friends, and I like don't like, it's
just it's different.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
Yeah, I've never I guess the only time I've actually
had guy friends where like was probably in high school, yeah,
and then you have your friend group, But then I
started dating my boyfriend, and then I guess in college
too a little bit. But once I started dating my boyfriend,
all those guy friends kind of went out the window.
And now his friends are my friends. So definitely a different,
(31:44):
different aspect of guy friends. Do you regret anything from
the show?
Speaker 3 (31:50):
Honestly, no, because I feel like there were certain moments
where like maybe I lashed out a little bit, or
like it was a little bit harsher a commentary.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
And stuff like that. But I feel like.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
People always say, like the bad edit thing, But the
thing about that is like they can't make you do
anything that you don't want to do, so like any
bad edit that you get is just like things that
you actually did and or things that you actually said,
(32:30):
and like, I don't know, I just feel like you
have to stand on that, you know, like maybe I
made some mistakes and have apologized for those things, but
at the end of the day, like that's genuinely how
I felt in that moment based on the information I
was given.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
So yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
Think you just have to stand on it if you
make mistakes, you apologize and move on.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
You know, you have to just own your shoes. Yeah,
that point. I know. Now you do have a boyfriend
and you guys are long distance. Can you tell me
a little bit about him?
Speaker 3 (32:59):
Yeah, So I actually met my boyfriend in college at USC.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
He's from London, but he went to college in the States.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
And it's so funny because he like went to an
all boys boarding school growing up, and he like got
to America and he was like in college like in
a frat being like living in a fast.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
Life, you know.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
And when I met him in college, I was like,
this is not for me, Like I don't want a.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Frat boy, Like I don't want like that vibe.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
And then years and years later, like we reconnected. He
says that he like DMed me a million times on
Instagram and I did not notice that, but I always
like thought he was cute and would see him around
because we have a few mutual friends. And then he
was like, hey, you know, can I take you on
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a date like months ago? And I was just like,
you know.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
What, like let's give it a try.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
Because I always like thought he was cute or would
have conversations with him here and there like if I
would see him out and yeah, I just like I'm
genuinely so so so happy. We've been together now for
like a little over a year and a half and
like I am just so I feel like I found
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my person, Like I feel so happy.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
So does he live in the States.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
No, he lives in London still, but he is doing
to New York. No, it's just.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
Like it's been such a long process of him like
moving here. But I love visiting London, so it's like
not the end of the world.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
You know.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
How often do you see him?
Speaker 3 (34:49):
Like every few weeks we try to do because it's amazing.
I'll go there, He'll come to New York or his
dad lives in Saint Bart's so we can meet that
beautiful there, which is like close.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
Yeah, wait, that's awesome. And then now he's making his
move to New York.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
Yes, I'm so happy.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
Is he doing that like on his own or is
this like maybe you're calling to move out?
Speaker 3 (35:09):
I am like I feel like I at twenty six,
I'm like, okay, I need still some time before we
move in together, Like I'm gonna take my time with that.
I feel like because again, like I've never lived besides,
like when I lived in LA for a year, Like
I've never lived really alone, and I've never lived alone
(35:30):
in New York, and I feel like I need that
era of like being well.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
I own space.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
I totally agree with you, That's what I'm doing. Yeah,
So I'm moving alone at first, and then eventually my
boyfriend is gonna come move in with me and we'll
figure out when that time is right. But at least,
you know, for now, I'm moving like next month, So
at least for right now, I'm doing this chapter alone
(36:00):
right now, and I'm I'm excited for it. I can't
wait to just like be alone and really navigate that
because I've I'm definitely gonna be scared just the thought
of sleeping alone. Yeah, like no matter what somebody is
in the house.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Yeah no, And now.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
I'm gonna be alone and I'm like terrified.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
So I think that's like important for self growth for sure, perc.
Like I feel like I don't get the whole, like
when people are asking questions like pressuring, like when are
you guys gonna move in? Or when are you gonna
get engaged or like any of that, Like I don't
understand that because when you see someone as like your
(36:40):
life partner or someone that you want to spend like
be in a long term relationship with, Like I don't
have that pressure of rushing because I'm like, oh, we'll
just do that down the line, like well, just like
do those things eventually. And I don't feel that like
anxiety or pressure about like rushing things along because.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
Either and we're still in our twenties, we're still so young.
But it's it's more so like the public opinion. My
boyfriend gets DMS and just sees comments on my page
like engaged yet, when are you guys gonna move? And
but even on next gen it's like when are you
guys moving in together? And it's like the poor kid
just like let him breathe, and he doesn't even know
(37:23):
if he wants to be in this world. It's crazy
like the public world. I mean, you know, because there's
there's a lot of pressure with it, and it's it's
a full adjustment. Like does your boyfriend do tiktoks with
you and stuff? No, he's like nervous.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
Yea, I mean he'll like how do you navigate that?
Speaker 1 (37:43):
So, I mean I think the tiktoks are the first
humph that we kind of just got over. And now
Christian is becoming more comfortable filming tiktoks with me or
doing like, you know, the little trends you see of
the couple's tiktoks and stuff. But him being on reality
(38:05):
TV actually gives him so much anxiety, and I obviously
don't like. I try to understand it as much as
I can, but because I grew up on it since
I was little, I'm just like, don't worry about it,
be yourself. I try to give him the best advice,
but obviously, going from not being in the public eye
(38:25):
at all to then exposing yourself to the public where
you can get so much scrutiny and just public opinion
and backlash, and it's scary because to the normal person,
nobody really wants to deal with that and add that
stressor onto their plate. So he was on Next Gen
a little bit and everyone actually ended up loving him,
(38:48):
and he looked amazing on season one, and I was like,
I want you to look amazing a million times over again.
If I look maybe I look like this season. I
don't care. As long as you look good and you're happy,
that's all that I care about because I would never
want to see my partner like struggle with trying to
bring him into my world because I would feel responsible
(39:12):
for that. So I think it's like I've been with
him for six years now, so it's kind of like
little baby steps, like he was maybe for a scene
or two on real Houses in New Jersey. Then he
made a couple like little cameos on Next Gen, and
then with TikTok, I do videos here and there. So
(39:35):
I think it's all about getting comfortable, and he's slowly
been getting more and more comfortable, but then there's certain
spots where he's like, Okay, this makes me really nervous. Yeah,
So I think it's like a whole like transition thing. Yeah,
but I mean I get it. But then it's also
(39:56):
as much as it's hard for us to understand a
little bit too because we grew up in it and
is kind of our norm, but it's totally not their norm.
So it's like it is a transition thing.
Speaker 3 (40:06):
Yeah, I think it's definitely like a balance and like
we've had so many conversations about it, Like me and
my boyfriend have had so many conversations about it, and
I just feel like for me, Like he's never going
to be a mainstay of my content. Like, yes, I
my audience, those are my girls, and like they don't even.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
Need to really like see you or like know you.
Speaker 3 (40:29):
Yes, Like I want people to obviously know that I'm
in a relationship. And I like talking about him because
I'm obsessed with him and I like him so much.
But like I just never want to tie him like
so much to my business because at the end of
the day, like that's my work and that's my business,
and I want to keep that like separate from our relationship,
(40:50):
Like I want our relationship to be more secret and
like keep that for us. But of course, like he's
in things here and there, and like he's so supportive
and happy for me, but I think he's just like, yeah,
I don't know about like being so in front of
the camera, you know.
Speaker 1 (41:09):
So it's all a balance and maybe one day he'll
be like, babe, I'm ready. Yeah, you know, you never know,
and they catch you by surprise when they say random things,
like Christian will say random thanks to me, and I'm like,
oh really yeah, and he's like, I mean only if
you want to, and I'm like, I mean I would
love to like of course, but it's like a whole
like it's like a whole adjusting thing. Like tomorrow we're
(41:32):
going to the US Open and I'm going with a
brand and I was like, you know, do you want
to maybe like we'll take some tiktoks and like videos
and he's like okay, like.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
All right, and he guys prepared.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
Yeah, I'm like, I'm gonna let you know now, and
he was like, okay, I know. I'm excited because I
was like, all right, I could bring a girlfriend to
the US Open, or like I could bring my boyfriend,
and I was like, this is a sports event, like
maybe this is something I.
Speaker 2 (41:58):
Thought my boyfriend was Celsius and like it was so fun.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
So fun, So I'm definitely excited for that. How have
you stayed grounded and like a long distance relationship, Like
what has been your biggest I.
Speaker 3 (42:12):
Mean we we really are like super regimented about scheduling
time together and like planning trips to see each other.
Speaker 1 (42:19):
He's a planner.
Speaker 3 (42:21):
I mean, the thing is like I say that and
he's like very last minute and spons but we just
like never let it go so long, like we're not like,
oh my gosh, in three weeks, we're gonna like go
on this trip or whatever.
Speaker 2 (42:34):
Like he's very.
Speaker 3 (42:35):
Much like like he's in New York now and he's like, Okay,
I'm booking a flight to go home tonight, and like
he's just gonna leave tonight, and like, but we've been
together for the past three weeks, Like he's been in
New York for the.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
Past three weeks. So I feel like we just have like.
Speaker 3 (42:53):
We don't go too long without seeing one another. And
on top of that, like when we're apart, we call
every day of course text usually like throughout the day.
But like also again like this goes to my point
from before about like I see my life with this
person in the future. So like this time for us
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is just like we'll have to navigate this and sometimes
it's hard. Sometimes it's also like there's benefits to it.
Like when we're not together, we're so focused on work
and like grinding, and you know, I have that time
with my girlfriends or whatever it is, my family, So
I'm not like I'm just not so stressed about this
(43:38):
time because I know there's like an end goal for us.
Speaker 1 (43:41):
Yeah, you know, no, And that's so true. I feel
like when That's why I'm even so excited to just
like move into my apartment by myself. Because when you're
I feel like alone and focused, you're grinding with work,
and that time apart, you're like, Okay, well, I'm now
so excited to then see you the next time. And
as much as long distance I'm sure is so difficult,
(44:04):
it probably grows your love for each other like times
a million, because then you're so excited to see each
other again. But you also just launched a pasta brand
that is incredible. Wait, you need to send me some.
Speaker 2 (44:19):
Yeah, I don't want to try some.
Speaker 1 (44:20):
You're going to be o chessa, So tell me about that.
Because your recipes, like you said, are your gift and
that is your that's your niche. You love doing that.
So how did this come about?
Speaker 3 (44:32):
Yeah, so I I've always wanted to like have a
brand in the CpG space, like snacks or packaged goods,
and this was like my first little foray into that space.
Speaker 2 (44:46):
So we just did a limited run.
Speaker 3 (44:48):
And it was such a funny backstory because a few
years ago I got a PR package from eight one
to eight Tequila okay, and it was a bottle of
tequila and then they had this pasta that was shaped
in the numbers of eight, one eight. Each of the pasta,
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individual pieces of pasta were a number.
Speaker 2 (45:12):
And I was like, oh my gosh, that's so cute.
Speaker 3 (45:15):
It's so nostalgic because like I grew up eating SpongeBob
mac and cheese.
Speaker 2 (45:22):
Yeah, yeah, I love it.
Speaker 3 (45:24):
And so I found the manufacturer who did that for
them and reached out to them and just did a
limited round of my own pasta. And they're all like
really fun shapes, like we did a flower, a hairbow,
and a heart and it's called canoodle, which is like
just a cute play on words. And yeah, it's just
(45:48):
been a fun project. I also think it's like good
for my followers to learn that they can buy like
packaged food from me, because that's like a actually what
I want to do in life, Like I have my
own brand in that space.
Speaker 2 (46:04):
So yeah, this was just like a little foray into it.
Speaker 3 (46:08):
And it's been so fun like learning about what my
followers want and you know, watching my audience like create
in the kitchen with this product, and yeah, it's been
it's been really fun. And like I I just.
Speaker 2 (46:24):
Have loved like the whole process of it.
Speaker 1 (46:27):
Oh that's amazing. I'm so proud of you.
Speaker 2 (46:29):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (46:30):
So can you tell all the Casual Chaos listeners where
to find you?
Speaker 2 (46:34):
Yes, just follow me on TikTok and Instagram at kit Keenan.
Speaker 1 (46:38):
All right, kay, well, thank you so much for coming
on Casual Chaos. This was such a fun episode, so
fun
Hey guys, and welcome back to another week of Casual Chaos.
This week, I have a very exciting guest, Kit Keaton.
Welcome to Casual Chaos.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Hi, thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
I'm so excited that you're here. You're actually one of
my first influencer guests.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Really, Oh my gosh, fun. I'm honored.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
I'm excited. I've been wanting to have one of my
influencer friends on for so long and honestly, just talk
about our life and what we do and how we
make our own money and what we do for work,
because I feel like there's a lot of talk about it.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Yeah, and also I feel like there's a lot of
misunderstanding around it.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
I agree, I totally agree. So you are definitely a
part of the New York influencing group and you guys
received a lot of backlash this year. How did you
handle all of that?
Speaker 3 (00:56):
I feel like there was a lot of discourse this
year around like the New City influencer scene. But from
my perspective, like I have grown up in this world,
and when I was in high school, the New York
City influencer scene was so different because it was like
the blogger era, So it was something navy and we
(01:17):
wore what and like those girls that started the fashion blogs,
and that was what being an influencer was.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
It was being a blogger. And over time.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
That has developed, and like when I moved back, I
went to college in LA, and when I moved back
to New York, there was this whole explosion of like
the TikTok world and that created kind of the next
generation of New.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
York City influencers.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
And from my experience, like I have just met the
most supportive and Greek girls and I feel so lucky
because when I was living in LA was not like that.
Like the influencer scene in LA was definitely not as
like supportive and community based as it is in New York.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
So yeah, I feel.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Like there's been there's always people like trying to stir
the pot and create tea and all of that. But like,
from my personal experience, I have so many close friends
in the space, and I feel so lucky that it's
not like a dog eat dog world and that it
is very supportive. So that's been my experience and I
(02:22):
can like only really speak on that. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
No, And even when all of that was going around,
I'm sitting there like well, I also do this content,
and it's just like kind of what we're all focused
on in our daily life. We are showing everyone what
we do on a day to day basis, how we
(02:44):
go about our mornings, or how spend a day in
my life. And that's genuinely the content that I enjoy watching,
not even if it's just my content, but even if
I'm watching your cooking videos or if I'm watching acquired
stuff spend the morning with me, those are videos that
I genuinely enjoy watching on a day to day basis,
(03:06):
and that resonate with me. So, no matter what, everyone's
going to have their opinion, and I think we all
do a pretty good job.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Also, like you've met all of my girls. Yeah, Like
everyone is so like welcoming and nice. Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
So yeah, I just I feel very lucky, honestly.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
No, definitely. So let's start from the beginning. Were you
born and raised in New York City?
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Born and raised in New York City?
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Yeah, So I went to USC for a year and
a half in southern California, and I lived in LA,
then transferred back finished at NYU, and then I moved
back to LA after college because I was kind of
thinking like maybe I just didn't love La and college
because I was in college and like I didn't really
(03:58):
have my bearings and whatever, and I wanted to give
La like a good try, and so I moved back
for a year and I still like didn't feel.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
At home there.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
But other than that, like I've lived in New York
City my whole life, I feel like it's just so
hard to leave. And my mom is like, my mom
is such a New York woman, Like she will never
leave New York City. So and on my dad's side,
their third generation Brooklyn New Yorkers, so like that whole
(04:31):
side of my family is also New York City people,
like they will never leave. So I feel like for me,
I just have my roots here and it's so hard
to leave.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
And you know that quote that's like when you leave
New York you're going nowhere.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
That is so just like hits for me because I
feel like I've traveled all over the world, but.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
My heart will always be in New York City.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
I also feel like it's kind of like me, you
can't take the girl out of Jersey. And I'm slowly
transitioning to make my move closer to the City, which
I'm so excited about. But I'm looking in the Jersey City.
We hawk in Upper Hoboken area. I'm like, that's perfect
for me.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
I have so many actually have so many influencer friends
who live in that area because like there's great buildings
with amazing natural light. Maybe we all all are looking
for and it's like close enough to the city that
you can go to events and like do that whole thing,
but also have your piece.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
You know, definitely, And that's kind of what I'm looking for.
Every apartment building that I call, they're like, what are
you looking for? I go, modern apartment, amazing views, natural light,
and just an easy commute to the city. Yeah, and
those buildings in that area pretty much have that. And
what I would get for my money in those areas
(05:55):
is just so much more than what I would get
in New York. Yeah, It's just it's so worth it
because I don't have a timeline. I don't have an
end date where my mom is like, you need to
get out of the house.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
So wait, you live at home. I live at home, Okay,
I live at home. Okay.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
So I love that for us, literally love that for us.
That is so funny. We need to talk about that,
because like, I feel like I have so many people
that are like, when are you going to move out?
Speaker 2 (06:24):
And honestly, like I've.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Been thinking about it because I've been working since I
was eighteen, Like I'm ready now to buy an apartment
in New York.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Yeah, but I'm just like, it's so nice living at home.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
It's so nic gets shooting eyed every single day and
they're like, oh, you're living off mommy's money. This is
what you're doing. You're living at home. Oh, Mommy's paying
your bills. And I'm like, only if you knew, like
that car insurance payment runs on my debit card every
three months, you know, just the little things where it's
obviously people are going to talk, people are gonna judge.
(07:01):
But if I can live at home and save my money,
why wouldn't I. Yeah, I am on the show next Gen.
Am I safe? Yes, thank you? But it's crazy because
I almost I felt pressured, but I also knew that
it is the right time for me to move out,
(07:21):
just because commuting from Jersey is a lot, especially when
we have a bunch of events. I'll come into the
city like right now to do my podcast and then
after this, I have an Amazon Live, then I'll have
three to four hours like in between my Amazon Live
or in between my podcast and events where I don't
know what to do, and I'm just like walking around
(07:41):
the city. Not like not that you're never bored, but
you know, I can't go home to refresh myself or
like get changed because the commute's too much. I would
be stuck in traffic. And that's where things would get
inconvenient for me because the commute would be too much,
and I either mis events or literally do it twice
(08:04):
in a day, Like I would come in, go home, change,
and then come back. So it just became exhausting. And
now being on Next Gen, all of my castmates live
on their own, whether they are supporting themselves or you know,
they're having the help of their parents, whatever it is,
(08:24):
they all do live on their own. And I was
the only one living at home, so and it was
almost this like, oh, she lives in Jersey and it's
a far commute for her to come to New York,
when I was like, I'm in the city every day. Yeah,
it's more so it was exhausting and I want to
try to make my life a little easier and optimize
(08:47):
what's in New York and be able to go to
everything that I want to go do. So I think
that's why at this point in my life, I'm like, Okay,
I kind of need to make that move, and you
probably totally understand it. We could be going to four
events at night, just bopping around trying to show your
face at each event, So it's definitely a lot if
(09:09):
you're not in this area. So that's why I'm like,
as much as I could stay at home until I
get married, I feel like that's literally a decision for
me right now.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
I am like in that same exact boat.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
I'm like, I should I just like wait until I
move in with my boyfriend to like move out at
my mom's house. But I also feel like, I it's
like a good investment always, and I just think that,
like it is it forces you out of your comfort
(09:43):
zone a little bit in a way that I think
will be really great for me. I just need to
like wait until I find the perfect place and all
of that, of course, but it's nice to not have
that pressure, you know, So is it just you?
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Just me?
Speaker 3 (09:59):
My mom and I have a younger sister who's twenty
oh yeah, yeah, Okay.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Are you guys your little sorority house.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
We know well because you guys are pretty close in
age though, I mean she's actually we're five years apart.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Okay, my little sister, Gigi is like my best friend
in the entire world. And yeah, when we were little,
I feel like the five year age difference really made
such a difference, and she felt so young to me,
and I was like, we're not homies like that, And
then I think once she turned eighteen, it was like, Okay,
(10:35):
we're like doing similar things in life, and like, I
feel like we're in the same chapter. She did the
same thing for college, where she like went away for
a year and a little bit and like went abroad
for a bit and then came back and transferred to NYU.
So like same situation as me, and we're.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Just so similar.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Like I feel so lucky to say that if me
and my sister weren't sisters, we would be friends. And
I feel like that's not the case for that many people,
but like, genuinely, in my situation, I would want to
be friends with my little sister if we weren't related,
which is.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Too Yeah. Yeah, so your mom is Cynthia Rowley explain
how that was growing up. Were you like her little
doll and she just dressed you all the time growing up?
Speaker 3 (11:40):
I mean you can probably like relate to a lot
of this, like having a mom that's in the public eye.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
And it's funny.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Because I get that question specifically about like my mom
dressing us a lot, and I.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Mean when my mom did that to me and she
wasn't even a fashion designers, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Well, It's what's funny about it is that, like she
actually was so free with what we wore. And I
think it was honestly because she sees like clothing and
design as personal expression and so she was really like,
wear whatever you girls want to wear. And I definitely
(12:19):
had like some really questionable outfits. And when I was little,
I remember there was one year that I wore a
birthday crown every single day for an entire year, because
like I loved getting the attention from people, like wherever
we would go, people being like happy birthday and like
sending me treats and stuff.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
I literally wore that crown every single day.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
And I remember, like my sister wore a SpongeBob life
jacket to her first day of kindergarten, and my mom
was just like, yeah, like this is their expression, Like
they should be able to wear whatever they want, and
so yeah, that was nice. The only thing I will
say though, is like we had access to a lot
of cool clothes, and so that helped our outfit choices
(13:03):
as we got older, I think, because like we were
always you know, around her closet and like stealing things
from her.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
So yeah, I mean the insfo is unreal. You can
just have endless options at all costs. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah was that? I mean was she who she was
like before you were born? I know this is yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
I mean she like has always been.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Like when did she start like designing clothes.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
Like in the eighties, like a long time ago. Yeah,
And I feel like she's had like so many different
eras of her business. But I think also like in
recent years, it's been cool for me to see and
incorporate like what I do with social media and kind
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of like help her not I don't want to say,
like advise her in that space, because she was always
like I feel like she was one of the first
designers to be like I want to see influencers at
my shows and stuff like that. And she's always been
like very open to that idea.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
But I would.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Say like having me doing what I do has also
helped inform like her social presence and like how her
business is interacting with influencers.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Yeah, even just the social media aspect, like you showing
her trends and how to work TikTok literally the smallest things,
and that's what I have. That's what I do with
my mom. She's like, oh, geea, can we do this?
But can you show me how to add music to this?
And it's all a learning game for them too. And
that's what I do with my mom, even though like
(14:47):
they're the legends that they are in their own way,
is to teach our moms how to work TikTok and
social media that ye that didn't come to them.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah exactly.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
What is the best worst part about living with a
fashion icon?
Speaker 3 (15:04):
I mean, I guess I think probably the worst part,
like growing up for me was just like the idea
of living in my mom's shadow kind of and just
feeling like I was lost for a lot of my
childhood because my mom found like she started making dresses
(15:27):
for herself when she was seven years old, like laying
down on a piece of fabric on the floor, tracing
around her body and like sewing a dress to wear
to school.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Like she has always.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
Had this passion from such a young age, and you know,
she has built it into this global brand and it's
been like so amazing to watch that and have her
as you know, an inspiration to me growing up. But
I think I was always like what do I want
(15:57):
to do? Like I didn't have that same calling, and
so like throughout my childhood, I was always like people
would always ask me, you know, are you going to
take over your mom's business, or like do you want
to work in fashion and whatever?
Speaker 2 (16:12):
And I feel like I've always.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
Had this appreciation for what she does and for clothes
in general, Like I love getting dressed. I love like
sharing that also with my audience and like making that
a part of my personal brand. But for me, like
the fashion industry was never I never felt called to it,
and like genuinely some events and stuff like that would
(16:36):
like give me a lot of anxiety growing up. And
so then when I was in college, I was like
sharing my life on Instagram already, and I was kind
of like building a smaller audience just like based in
New York and LA and I started just like cooking
(16:58):
for my friends and family, and it became a passion
of mine, and I would like share things on Instagram
stories here and there, and like get in the dms
and share recipes and stuff.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Like please look insane, like I really want to come over.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Yeah, please please please please, like let me cook creo.
But like I guess I slowly realized over time that
like my audience was interested in that content and it
was something that I felt always like it was a
part of my calling and like it was that same
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process that my mom describes with fashion design, where it's
like you have an idea and you get to bring
something to life and like you get to add your
sparkle to it. And I felt like, oh my gosh,
this is my creative calling, Like this is my creative
outlet that I've been searching for. And then like being
able to share that with an audience that I had
(17:56):
already been growing was so fulfilling. And now it's like
the biggest part of my online presence and what I.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
See for my future in this space. So yeah, I
think that was like I took that question all over
the place.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
No, no, but I totally understand that.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Was the harder thing growing up was just like, well.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
It's also just the pressure of are you going to
do this? And just like you were saying, okay, am
I gonna Are you gonna take over your mom's company?
And it's gonna be this generational thing and no matter
what your mom's company is will always stand strong. But
I mean, I feel like as much as the pressure
of you taking it over, it's also the pressure within
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yourself of do I really want to always have that
pressure of living under her shadow or maybe not doing
it the way she did it and having that whole pressure.
And I mean it was kind of the same, like
different obviously different scales, but even me coming on to
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reality TV and people just always assuming that I'm like
a mini Teresa, which that's amazing in different aspects, but
you know, my mom is Teresa Judice standing on her own.
I would never be able to be Teresa Judice. I
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could never flip a table and be an icon for
like twenty years or like she's like, you know, she's
an outstanding icon in the reality TV space, and I
want to build that within me and not people just assume, oh,
this is like a mini Teresa in the making, Like, no,
(19:40):
I want to really show you guys who I am.
And I think that's the constant battle that we will
always kind of find with ourselves as we're trying to
also just show our audience who we really are. So
but as much as I love filming content with my
mom and doing all of that, because she obviously is
(20:03):
my mom, She's so funny, she is the person that
I look up to, but it does it. There's just
I guess it's just the public that really causes all
the stress and ourselves, but we don't make that too
public exactly. But you posted a video when your mom
(20:24):
was like saving your clothes and that when viral, that
was like crazy, Yeah, so she just like can do
anything on hand.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
I mean this is like this is also I think
something that people don't really consider anymore because to be
a fashion designer now, like you don't really have to
have the skill of making clothes and sewing. You can
be a fashion designer and you know, make cads with
AI and send it to a factory and have those
(20:55):
samples me and like you don't need to have the
actual skill of of cutting and sewing and creating patterns
and like the skills that you used to have to
be a fashion designer. But since my mom has been
doing this for so long, she has all those skills
she can so I can, like, like she has made
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so many special pieces for me, like my prom dress,
and like she'll redo vintage items for me and have
them fit me perfectly and like stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
And I always say I have a personal tailor, which.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
Is like so nice, and obviously she's like way more
important than that, is obvious, but like she does have
she does have all of those skills, which is really
cool because she can take something like, you know, a
vintage piece from her closet or you know, something that
(21:49):
I find on eBay or like something like that and
make it something super special and like give it a
new life for me. But I also just like love
seeing her go through that process because like she'll add
her little touches to things and I'm like, wow, this
is so cool.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
I mean it's sick, yeah, And just like you were saying,
it's kind of crazy, because it also do sows your
appreciation for her that much more. The fact that she
could actually turn something out of nothing and she genuinely
can design and create something beautiful when now it's just
crazy the world that we live in that everything could
be done and created on AI and through a machine
(22:30):
and you don't even have to do any work at
this point. Yeah, which is nuts.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
No, it's crazy, it's wild.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Okay, Well, let's talk about your time on The Bachelor
with Matt James. What made you want to go on
the Bachelor?
Speaker 3 (22:45):
So, I I think still to this day, I was
the youngest person.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
To ever be on The Bachelor.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
How old were I was?
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Twenty one?
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Oh wow.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
And it was just like the type of thing where
I was doing online classes because of COVID and I
got a DM from like this random account. It literally
had eight hundred followers and all the posts on the
account were like Bachelor related casting stuff, and the woman
(23:18):
reached out to me and she was like, hey, like
I would love to, you know, just get you on
a zoom. We're casting for a new reality dating show.
And I was like, huh, like I wonder what this
is about, but.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Also like it could so be like.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
A scam or something like eight hundred followers on this
random account, like what am I doing? But I ended
up meeting with her and going through the whole process,
and I feel like it was just the type of
thing where I was thinking to myself, like, I'm twenty one,
I'll never do something like this again in my life,
you know. Like it was just like something at the
(23:58):
time that I was thinking of in a lighthearted way.
And again, I probably should have like considered it a
little bit more because it could have gone so in
the opposite direction. And like you see people's entire careers
like ruined by reality TV. But lucky for me, like
it wasn't that bad. I got a good edit, as
(24:22):
they will say in the industry. But I feel like I, yeah,
I just wanted to take a risk, and I feel
like I had been sort of in this bubble of
like New York City, the fashion scene kind of, and
I was just like, I want to do something that
takes me out of that world and like something that's
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really on my own, because like, as much as people
will always tie me to my mom and my family,
I feel like doing something that was just so unexpected, unexpected,
and like in fact, my mom was like, what are
you doing. I feel like it was kind of my
rebellious stage a little bit. And again, it was just
something that like I knew I would not have done
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later in life.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
And it was just like a let me just do
this and see what happened.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
I mean, I was also probably like you were saying,
when you were trying to like find yourself, so you
were probably just like, let me do something that makes
me be seen and makes me step out of my
comfort zone and do something that people wouldn't expect from
Cynthia Rally's daughter.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
And it's it's like some people get piercing, some people
go like, get a tattooing, some people go, yeah, I
get a tattoo, and some people go on reality TV?
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Yeah did you get what you wanted out of it?
Speaker 3 (25:40):
Honestly, Like I was so surprised, Like I look back.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
On that experience and I'm like, oh my gosh, that
was a fever dream.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
Would you ever like, now I'm a boyfriend, so well
you not a dating show? But I would definitely do
reality TV again. It just like depends on if it's
the right setting for me and stuff, and I would
like want it to be something that would tell a
little bit more of my story.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Next time, I might say.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Yeah, maybe, Honestly, my dream Hello.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
So I think like for me, it was such a
surprising experience because when I got there, I was like,
this is kind of a joke. And again, like I
was just like, okay, Like this is a guy that
is twenty eight, he lives in New York, Like I
probably would have gone on a date with him at
the time, like twenty one, I was dating around like whatever,
and I got there and I was like, yeah, but
(26:41):
I probably won't actually like him. And then overtime, I
think it's partially because you're just in this bubble where
like every.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
Almost like you're in like a simulation.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
No literally, and like everyone around you was like this
is the best guy ever, like we all want him,
blah blah blah, and then you kind of like get
convinced overtime, and like also like I had like good
conversations with him and like I felt like we vibed also,
so that added to the confusion a little bit. But
(27:10):
I think like in the back of my mind always
I was like, this is still a show, Like we're
still putting on a show. Like let's keep that in
the back of my mind. But people definitely get swept
up in.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
It for sure.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
Oh I'm sure, yeah, when the season was going on,
because obviously he ended up with Rachel and now this
whole thing happened between him and Rachel and it was
all over because then after the Bachelor, they were also
in the influencing world and really like and we're very
successful with their tiktoks and everything like that. Have you
(27:44):
ever seen them around at events?
Speaker 3 (27:46):
And I'm still friends with Rachel and I genuinely love her,
like I want the absolute best for her, and we've
been friends like when they were together.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Too, So I feel like, just like after the show.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
It was kind of like, okay, yeah, technically we all
dated your boyfriend, but like at the same time, it
again like I think it's coming back to reality and
being like, Okay, that was a show. Yeah, like nothing happened,
Like it's just totally fine. And I just like always
thought that she was such a great girl and still do.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
I haven't really seen him, honestly, and I think.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
Really seen him at a couple events, Okay, like over
the past year, any of the red flags that were
obviously know now, yeah, did you ever did you guys
ever feel that when you guys were filming.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
Like it was so long ago at this point, and
I feel like I was so much like I don't know,
like I just didn't see it at the time, and
I think.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
Well, like you said, you're all gagging over this god like,
so there's like for him, just you're not like looking, oh,
is that a red flag or you know, little things
like that, where when obviously Rachel became open about talking
about it, I guess it could totally be understandable, like
(29:11):
what he was doing, Yeah, how that could have been,
Like how that was happening during that relationship.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
I feel like everyone can relate to that idea that
you like are dating someone and like in the moment,
you're so obsessed with them and like all of.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Their red flags just go right over your head.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
And then like you look back, like years later when
you're healed or just like on to like a help,
when you're in a healthy relationship, and you're like, oh
my gosh, I can't believe that I normalized that behavior
like that was so whack. But in the moment, you
just like don't see it.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
You don't see it, you're so blind to it. Yeah,
but I'm happy she's doing great, well, he's doing good. Yeah, yeah, Yeah,
did your guy friends view you differently after the Bachelor.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
I mean, to be honest, like I don't really have
that many guy friends, Like I feel like I really
I have like a few, but like I'm just I've
and I've always been this way, like I'm just a
girls like girls girl like I I don't know, I
like genuinely, until like I started dating my boyfriend, men
(30:29):
were like so foreign to me, and I just like
I love girling around and like hanging.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
With the girls.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
So I have like a few guy friends and like
family guy friends and stuff like that that I remember
people being like, huh, that's interesting. But yeah, I feel
like no one was no one really questioned it that
much because I feel like I was already on social
media and kind of like doing.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
That whole thing. Yeah that it made sense at the time.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
No, yeah, I get it. I mean even with my boyfriend,
his friends are my friends.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
Yeah, exactly. So it's exactly like.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
I don't have like anyone else who I would say,
who I would call up and be like hey, like no,
it's my boyfriend's friends, and I like don't like, it's
just it's different.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
Yeah, I've never I guess the only time I've actually
had guy friends where like was probably in high school, yeah,
and then you have your friend group, But then I
started dating my boyfriend, and then I guess in college
too a little bit. But once I started dating my boyfriend,
all those guy friends kind of went out the window.
And now his friends are my friends. So definitely a different,
(31:44):
different aspect of guy friends. Do you regret anything from
the show?
Speaker 3 (31:50):
Honestly, no, because I feel like there were certain moments
where like maybe I lashed out a little bit, or
like it was a little bit harsher a commentary.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
And stuff like that. But I feel like.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
People always say, like the bad edit thing, But the
thing about that is like they can't make you do
anything that you don't want to do, so like any
bad edit that you get is just like things that
you actually did and or things that you actually said,
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and like, I don't know, I just feel like you
have to stand on that, you know, like maybe I
made some mistakes and have apologized for those things, but
at the end of the day, like that's genuinely how
I felt in that moment based on the information I
was given.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
So yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
Think you just have to stand on it if you
make mistakes, you apologize and move on.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
You know, you have to just own your shoes. Yeah,
that point. I know. Now you do have a boyfriend
and you guys are long distance. Can you tell me
a little bit about him?
Speaker 3 (32:59):
Yeah, So I actually met my boyfriend in college at USC.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
He's from London, but he went to college in the States.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
And it's so funny because he like went to an
all boys boarding school growing up, and he like got
to America and he was like in college like in
a frat being like living in a fast.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
Life, you know.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
And when I met him in college, I was like,
this is not for me, Like I don't want a.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Frat boy, Like I don't want like that vibe.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
And then years and years later, like we reconnected. He
says that he like DMed me a million times on
Instagram and I did not notice that, but I always
like thought he was cute and would see him around
because we have a few mutual friends. And then he
was like, hey, you know, can I take you on
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a date like months ago? And I was just like,
you know.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
What, like let's give it a try.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
Because I always like thought he was cute or would
have conversations with him here and there like if I
would see him out and yeah, I just like I'm
genuinely so so so happy. We've been together now for
like a little over a year and a half and
like I am just so I feel like I found
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my person, Like I feel so happy.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
So does he live in the States.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
No, he lives in London still, but he is doing
to New York. No, it's just.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
Like it's been such a long process of him like
moving here. But I love visiting London, so it's like
not the end of the world.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
You know.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
How often do you see him?
Speaker 3 (34:49):
Like every few weeks we try to do because it's amazing.
I'll go there, He'll come to New York or his
dad lives in Saint Bart's so we can meet that
beautiful there, which is like close.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
Yeah, wait, that's awesome. And then now he's making his
move to New York.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
Yes, I'm so happy.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
Is he doing that like on his own or is
this like maybe you're calling to move out?
Speaker 3 (35:09):
I am like I feel like I at twenty six,
I'm like, okay, I need still some time before we
move in together, Like I'm gonna take my time with that.
I feel like because again, like I've never lived besides,
like when I lived in LA for a year, Like
I've never lived really alone, and I've never lived alone
(35:30):
in New York, and I feel like I need that
era of like being well.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
I own space.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
I totally agree with you, That's what I'm doing. Yeah,
So I'm moving alone at first, and then eventually my
boyfriend is gonna come move in with me and we'll
figure out when that time is right. But at least,
you know, for now, I'm moving like next month, So
at least for right now, I'm doing this chapter alone
(36:00):
right now, and I'm I'm excited for it. I can't
wait to just like be alone and really navigate that
because I've I'm definitely gonna be scared just the thought
of sleeping alone. Yeah, like no matter what somebody is
in the house.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Yeah no, And now.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
I'm gonna be alone and I'm like terrified.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
So I think that's like important for self growth for sure, perc.
Like I feel like I don't get the whole, like
when people are asking questions like pressuring, like when are
you guys gonna move in? Or when are you gonna
get engaged or like any of that, Like I don't
understand that because when you see someone as like your
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life partner or someone that you want to spend like
be in a long term relationship with, Like I don't
have that pressure of rushing because I'm like, oh, we'll
just do that down the line, like well, just like
do those things eventually. And I don't feel that like
anxiety or pressure about like rushing things along because.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
Either and we're still in our twenties, we're still so young.
But it's it's more so like the public opinion. My
boyfriend gets DMS and just sees comments on my page
like engaged yet, when are you guys gonna move? And
but even on next gen it's like when are you
guys moving in together? And it's like the poor kid
just like let him breathe, and he doesn't even know
(37:23):
if he wants to be in this world. It's crazy
like the public world. I mean, you know, because there's
there's a lot of pressure with it, and it's it's
a full adjustment. Like does your boyfriend do tiktoks with
you and stuff? No, he's like nervous.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
Yea, I mean he'll like how do you navigate that?
Speaker 1 (37:43):
So, I mean I think the tiktoks are the first
humph that we kind of just got over. And now
Christian is becoming more comfortable filming tiktoks with me or
doing like, you know, the little trends you see of
the couple's tiktoks and stuff. But him being on reality
(38:05):
TV actually gives him so much anxiety, and I obviously
don't like. I try to understand it as much as
I can, but because I grew up on it since
I was little, I'm just like, don't worry about it,
be yourself. I try to give him the best advice,
but obviously, going from not being in the public eye
(38:25):
at all to then exposing yourself to the public where
you can get so much scrutiny and just public opinion
and backlash, and it's scary because to the normal person,
nobody really wants to deal with that and add that
stressor onto their plate. So he was on Next Gen
a little bit and everyone actually ended up loving him,
(38:48):
and he looked amazing on season one, and I was like,
I want you to look amazing a million times over again.
If I look maybe I look like this season. I
don't care. As long as you look good and you're happy,
that's all that I care about because I would never
want to see my partner like struggle with trying to
bring him into my world because I would feel responsible
(39:12):
for that. So I think it's like I've been with
him for six years now, so it's kind of like
little baby steps, like he was maybe for a scene
or two on real Houses in New Jersey. Then he
made a couple like little cameos on Next Gen, and
then with TikTok, I do videos here and there. So
(39:35):
I think it's all about getting comfortable, and he's slowly
been getting more and more comfortable, but then there's certain
spots where he's like, Okay, this makes me really nervous. Yeah,
So I think it's like a whole like transition thing. Yeah,
but I mean I get it. But then it's also
(39:56):
as much as it's hard for us to understand a
little bit too because we grew up in it and
is kind of our norm, but it's totally not their norm.
So it's like it is a transition thing.
Speaker 3 (40:06):
Yeah, I think it's definitely like a balance and like
we've had so many conversations about it, Like me and
my boyfriend have had so many conversations about it, and
I just feel like for me, Like he's never going
to be a mainstay of my content. Like, yes, I
my audience, those are my girls, and like they don't even.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
Need to really like see you or like know you.
Speaker 3 (40:29):
Yes, Like I want people to obviously know that I'm
in a relationship. And I like talking about him because
I'm obsessed with him and I like him so much.
But like I just never want to tie him like
so much to my business because at the end of
the day, like that's my work and that's my business,
and I want to keep that like separate from our relationship,
(40:50):
Like I want our relationship to be more secret and
like keep that for us. But of course, like he's
in things here and there, and like he's so supportive
and happy for me, but I think he's just like, yeah,
I don't know about like being so in front of
the camera, you know.
Speaker 1 (41:09):
So it's all a balance and maybe one day he'll
be like, babe, I'm ready. Yeah, you know, you never know,
and they catch you by surprise when they say random things,
like Christian will say random thanks to me, and I'm like,
oh really yeah, and he's like, I mean only if
you want to, and I'm like, I mean I would
love to like of course, but it's like a whole
like it's like a whole adjusting thing. Like tomorrow we're
(41:32):
going to the US Open and I'm going with a
brand and I was like, you know, do you want
to maybe like we'll take some tiktoks and like videos
and he's like okay, like.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
All right, and he guys prepared.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
Yeah, I'm like, I'm gonna let you know now, and
he was like, okay, I know. I'm excited because I
was like, all right, I could bring a girlfriend to
the US Open, or like I could bring my boyfriend,
and I was like, this is a sports event, like
maybe this is something I.
Speaker 2 (41:58):
Thought my boyfriend was Celsius and like it was so fun.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
So fun, So I'm definitely excited for that. How have
you stayed grounded and like a long distance relationship, Like
what has been your biggest I.
Speaker 3 (42:12):
Mean we we really are like super regimented about scheduling
time together and like planning trips to see each other.
Speaker 1 (42:19):
He's a planner.
Speaker 3 (42:21):
I mean, the thing is like I say that and
he's like very last minute and spons but we just
like never let it go so long, like we're not like,
oh my gosh, in three weeks, we're gonna like go
on this trip or whatever.
Speaker 2 (42:34):
Like he's very.
Speaker 3 (42:35):
Much like like he's in New York now and he's like, Okay,
I'm booking a flight to go home tonight, and like
he's just gonna leave tonight, and like, but we've been
together for the past three weeks, Like he's been in
New York for the.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
Past three weeks. So I feel like we just have like.
Speaker 3 (42:53):
We don't go too long without seeing one another. And
on top of that, like when we're apart, we call
every day of course text usually like throughout the day.
But like also again like this goes to my point
from before about like I see my life with this
person in the future. So like this time for us
(43:16):
is just like we'll have to navigate this and sometimes
it's hard. Sometimes it's also like there's benefits to it.
Like when we're not together, we're so focused on work
and like grinding, and you know, I have that time
with my girlfriends or whatever it is, my family, So
I'm not like I'm just not so stressed about this
(43:38):
time because I know there's like an end goal for us.
Speaker 1 (43:41):
Yeah, you know, no, And that's so true. I feel
like when That's why I'm even so excited to just
like move into my apartment by myself. Because when you're
I feel like alone and focused, you're grinding with work,
and that time apart, you're like, Okay, well, I'm now
so excited to then see you the next time. And
as much as long distance I'm sure is so difficult,
(44:04):
it probably grows your love for each other like times
a million, because then you're so excited to see each
other again. But you also just launched a pasta brand
that is incredible. Wait, you need to send me some.
Speaker 2 (44:19):
Yeah, I don't want to try some.
Speaker 1 (44:20):
You're going to be o chessa, So tell me about that.
Because your recipes, like you said, are your gift and
that is your that's your niche. You love doing that.
So how did this come about?
Speaker 3 (44:32):
Yeah, so I I've always wanted to like have a
brand in the CpG space, like snacks or packaged goods,
and this was like my first little foray into that space.
Speaker 2 (44:46):
So we just did a limited run.
Speaker 3 (44:48):
And it was such a funny backstory because a few
years ago I got a PR package from eight one
to eight Tequila okay, and it was a bottle of
tequila and then they had this pasta that was shaped
in the numbers of eight, one eight. Each of the pasta,
(45:09):
individual pieces of pasta were a number.
Speaker 2 (45:12):
And I was like, oh my gosh, that's so cute.
Speaker 3 (45:15):
It's so nostalgic because like I grew up eating SpongeBob
mac and cheese.
Speaker 2 (45:22):
Yeah, yeah, I love it.
Speaker 3 (45:24):
And so I found the manufacturer who did that for
them and reached out to them and just did a
limited round of my own pasta. And they're all like
really fun shapes, like we did a flower, a hairbow,
and a heart and it's called canoodle, which is like
just a cute play on words. And yeah, it's just
(45:48):
been a fun project. I also think it's like good
for my followers to learn that they can buy like
packaged food from me, because that's like a actually what
I want to do in life, Like I have my
own brand in that space.
Speaker 2 (46:04):
So yeah, this was just like a little foray into it.
Speaker 3 (46:08):
And it's been so fun like learning about what my
followers want and you know, watching my audience like create
in the kitchen with this product, and yeah, it's been
it's been really fun. And like I I just.
Speaker 2 (46:24):
Have loved like the whole process of it.
Speaker 1 (46:27):
Oh that's amazing. I'm so proud of you.
Speaker 2 (46:29):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (46:30):
So can you tell all the Casual Chaos listeners where
to find you?
Speaker 2 (46:34):
Yes, just follow me on TikTok and Instagram at kit Keenan.
Speaker 1 (46:38):
All right, kay, well, thank you so much for coming
on Casual Chaos. This was such a fun episode, so
fun
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