October 27, 2025 • 39 mins
From viral videos on TikTok to TLC, the mother-daughter duo tell Gia how they wound up on reality TV and if they’d do it again. Plus, did their 'sMothered’ fame create friction in the family? And, how the show may have derailed Catherine’s beauty pageant dreams!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hey guys, and welcome back to another week of casual Chaos.
This week we have a smother duo in the house,
Catherine and Gabriella.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Welcome to Casual Chaos.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Thank you, thank you for having us.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Oh my god, so excited to have you. Guys.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
The matching outfits are killing me. It's like head to
tell you guys are matching. This is a full beat.
Speaker 4 (00:21):
This is true, this is true. The manicure, the French
manicare my god.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
I have to say, do you ever get people to
say this is kind of freaking them out?
Speaker 4 (00:30):
Honestly.
Speaker 5 (00:31):
The funniest thing is on the street you are like,
are you guys sisters?
Speaker 1 (00:34):
I mean you guys or twins? Yeah, You're just like, yeah,
you're definitely twins.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
I think it's wonderful. I mean we have three daughters.
I know you're from a family of four girls, and
I just always matched the girls as soon as they
were born, you know, this one, this one, then the
third came and we just always matched and the other
sisters kind of grew out of it.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
So are they more girly girls or tom boys? Are
still girly girls but just not a pot boys?
Speaker 5 (01:03):
Yeah, like they were cross.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Yeah, okay, what's the age difference between you and your sisters?
Speaker 5 (01:10):
So my older sister's twenty six, I'm twenty five, and
my little sister's twenty.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Oh wow, okay, yeah, so you're the girly girl. They're
more on just like streetwear more.
Speaker 5 (01:21):
Yeah, street They go to school like they go to
they went to college, like I didn't go to college.
Like oh okay, it's just like two different kinds of girls.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Yeah, got it. Okay.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
And you guys are from Connecticut, yes, okay, very fun.
So you guys were on the hit TV shows Smothered
on TLC.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
How did that come about?
Speaker 4 (01:41):
It was, oh my mom, it was me she did this.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Yeah, I mean I saw a casting many years ago
and the casting was like you're mini me. And because
again always with the girls, always with the fashion pageants, dance.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
It was kind of in your nature.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Correct. I sent photos in and nothing came to be
of it. And then I found out that it was
called Smothered, and we did send a casting real nothing
came of it. And then when social media came, Gabriella
started doing tiktoks and all of the tiktoks that I
came in went viral.
Speaker 5 (02:15):
Yeah, we had a couple like really viral moments. So
then I think that also helped in the casting process.
He was like, wait, the numbers kind of show it,
so of course he gave us a chance.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
So yeah, the casting man gave us a chance. His
name is Paul, and we auditioned and we're very happy
to be on the show.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
That's awesome. So the basis of the show was pageants, So.
Speaker 5 (02:35):
It's really about like a really close mother daughter duo bond.
Our storyline just happened to follow pageantry because literally, during
that time of year, I was genuinely competing for this
pageant and the show just happened to be there and
film it. Like it wasn't like, oh they wanted me
to compete in a pageant.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Oh, it was really also just about your storyline, was
your life in the pageant world? Yeah, but everyone else
kind of just showed their relationship ship as close mother
and daughter.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Correct.
Speaker 5 (03:01):
Yeah, My mom's a formist Connecticut USSA, so she like
you are you.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Are as well? Right?
Speaker 4 (03:07):
No?
Speaker 3 (03:07):
No, no, that was she would't win.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
They wouldn't let me win.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
No, that's the this is the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Yeah, Okay, okay, Okay, now I'm understanding. You are Miss Connecticut.
You got Top five barely.
Speaker 5 (03:22):
Sometimes they were like you're out of here.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Yeah, even though she could win Miss Universe.
Speaker 5 (03:29):
Yeah, so on the show, you see me lose gracefully,
like they gave me like fourth runner up. Fine, you
know what, I'll be chill right.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
But then last year.
Speaker 5 (03:39):
I competed again and I could just say the crew
was there just filming, and yeah, they didn't even give
me Top five.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
They were like they're not having it.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Eleven girls.
Speaker 5 (03:49):
They were like literally, there was not like the un
the girls to choose from. I was like, my interview
was so good, like my aunt stage performance. I had
a custom gown made in New York, which I always do,
but it was so beautiful, and I felt so super
confident in the weekend, and like I heard, girls were
trying to get me disqualified before I even stepped on stage.
I was like, wait a minute, what's going on.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
So maybe the judges felt with the cameras there, yeah,
want girls to think or other things exactly to think
that it was an easy win.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (04:17):
Yeah, And that's why I felt like I had to
be even more on my game because if I did win.
I had to prove like no, no, like I really
did do flawless. So it was like even more pressure
on me. But I gave my all. And it's all
right because like I do believe in God's journey and
I think that we have a really great path. And
you know, my mom and I we do all these
appearances all over the country anyways, and that is like
what the crown is. It gives you the platform. But
(04:39):
having the show actually gave me the platform. So it
kind of all worked.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Out in disguise.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
Yeah, but it was like.
Speaker 5 (04:44):
A legacy to win my mom's title.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
But it's all right.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Who knows, who knows?
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Yeah, I mean what I feel like, what you are
in your twenties.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
I was gonna say, I feel like usually the Miss Universes,
they are in their twenties.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Yes, you have time.
Speaker 5 (05:00):
Well they cut off there's no more age limit.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
I know they cut that out.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
What was the age limit.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
I could even apply. The age limit was I think
nineteen to twenty twenty six or twenty and it was
younger then up twenty and now unlimited, unlimited, so anybody
and you can be married before it, Miss Connecticut, you
couldn't be you couldn't be married, of course, because of
(05:28):
you couldn't be pregnanty anything.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
But now they're like whatever goes.
Speaker 5 (05:31):
So yeah, I could compute till when I'm.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Fifty bo We'll see if that's in the car.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
So you two have one of the closest relationships on
the show Smothered. Were you nervous to show how close
you were? And like, did you receive any backlash from
the show?
Speaker 2 (05:50):
How was that?
Speaker 5 (05:51):
I mean, I think it was very authentic, like they
didn't you know, it wasn't like a produced show because
smmer reality shows of course are produced. But it was
a very offuthentic show and really did show our relationship
in our life. So I wasn't really embarrassed because I
don't really care what people think personally.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Yeah, as you should.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
It was. It was a crazy experience, yeah, I mean,
and even still because we still do a lot of
we do a lot of social media together, I didn't
expect the amount of hate and naked chi at online.
I get it crazy, So initially, yeah, it bothered me
initially because I just wasn't but also their generation didn't
(06:31):
understand like social media hate, where I feel like our
generation were like, you're crazy for saying that, Like it's okay.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
But like it's definitely different.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
The generational growth of social media is crazy.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
But our parents didn't grow up with it now, they
didn't even have correct of it.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
So, I mean, I couldn't imagine going on with my
social media account and saying horrible things about someone's mother
or someone's daughter or anybody. Like why would anybody?
Speaker 1 (07:00):
We're coming for your character and everything just every day
still come for me.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
It's everything, it's it's everything. So but no, it's fine.
I mean, she talks me through it. We talk through it,
so I think just having that support, she wants to go.
Speaker 5 (07:16):
On there and fight them.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
She's like, please let me comment.
Speaker 5 (07:18):
I'm like, we don't comment, do they?
Speaker 4 (07:19):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
You can't engage. You have to just disengage.
Speaker 6 (07:24):
Know that.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
As my mom says, any press is good press.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Yes, well that's what she tells me. She's like, you're
doing something.
Speaker 5 (07:33):
Like you can cry when they're not talking about you.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
Yes, And yeah, well we're doing something right then, because
they're always talking about me.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Definitely.
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Speaker 1 (08:45):
So you made a TikTok video last year that went
viral because you didn't place in.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
The top five. What was that video like?
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Were you more so angry in the moment because you
didn't make the top five.
Speaker 5 (08:57):
Yeah, that video and viral anyway, it's not even the
one video, but like other people reposted the video and
then stitched it so that video was not made on
like heavy heat. That was me two days after, like
days after, you.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Know you like reflected reflected. Okay, now I wrote that out.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
I knew what I was saying.
Speaker 5 (09:16):
But I'm also have a bold personality and like I'm
not gonna like myself.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Guys, I'm more Mediterranean, yeah.
Speaker 5 (09:23):
And I'm an aries like I'm very fiery. So it's
like some people took the video as like me being
cocky or like, oh she is a sore loser, but
like I also couldn't say everything that really happened that
weekend for other reasons. So it's like, yeah, if honestly,
like it was crazy in.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
The moment, you know, well because we were filming, Yeah,
we were filming, so in words, knew that we were filming, right,
I mean the camera.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Was during the first season of the show.
Speaker 5 (09:52):
No, actually, I'll just feel the tea, so.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
So we were fit.
Speaker 5 (09:57):
We filmed at the pageant for season six of Smothered,
even though it wasn't greenlit yet because they were like,
this is a huge part of your storyline. You're genuinely
going to compete in this pageant. What if I went
and won and then there's no footage to like show
when that's where the storyline ended off. Yeah, so they
were like, let's.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
Just film it.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
So we filmed it, and that hurt my chances. I
mean I also feel that why can't she speak her mind?
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (10:23):
I mean if it was a man and they were
talking about sports, right, yeah, sports, they're like pissed or something.
But she was speaking her mind. And I mean I
was there. I saw exactly what happened. Most people saw
exactly what happened, and she was just speaking her mind.
It was no negativity against any of the other girls.
(10:44):
When she said there's no competition, that simply meant.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
The statement Connecticut.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
We had like eleven girls. In California, or in New York,
there's two or three hundred girls.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Texas there's one hundred year competition.
Speaker 5 (10:59):
Yeah, so like I did make a statement. I said,
in Connecticut it's not a big pageant state, there was
no there's no competition, as in like the number of people,
there's no competition, there's ten girls compared to other states.
Even New York has two hundred girls.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
Kennet is not a big pageant state.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
She did congratulate the winner. I mean it was those
were comments that were made that you know, you were
a sort loser, you didn't congratulate the winner, and you did.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
Yeah. I was always very kind to the winner.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Yeah, and all the girls run. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
I feel like, especially now, to people use social media
as a platform to really speak their mind and speak
their opinion. Yeah, and that was also frowned upon, but
now everybody does it on social media, whether you receive
the backlash or not. Everybody does it, and some people
get praised for speaking their opinion while.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Others get the backlash.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
So you're entitled to your own opinion. You're entitled to
speak your mind. And it was genuinely something that happened
in your.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Life upset you. It was super jazzy, so I mean
people are gonna say it.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Also because it was a pageant.
Speaker 5 (12:04):
Of course people want the tea. And also it was
like a crazy week. But then People magazine wrote an
article about it, so it actually all worked out.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
I was like, guys, chill, Yeah, No, I mean it's
because people, you know, have this persona, especially on TLC
there was toddlers in tierras.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Yes, it's this.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Very like glitz and glam girls acting like I mean
not even really girls, because you guys are really showing
your beauty, really rehearsing for this, and it's a lot
of hard work and dedication.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Yes, you have the moms that are over the top
obviously really hyper analyzing their daughters and overanalyzing everything and
making sure that.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Everything is perfect.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
So of course from like a blind eye or for
somebody who doesn't understand that world, they're gonna be like, wow,
this is a bit much, and that's understandable.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
And you probably got that side, you know, you didn't.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
The viewers that were looking at that video probably weren't
in the pageant life.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Yeah you probably. The flow of people were probably from
everywhere else.
Speaker 5 (13:06):
Yeah, And at the end of the day, I trained
like everyone else. I trained for an entire year before,
put so much time and effort in, and I just
wanted to be treated like everyone else and given a
fair shot. And if the director said, hey, you're not
going to get a fair shot, just let me know
in advance, and I won't like put my heart into it.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Well, they should have also just said no to filming.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Yeah, you know, TLC had to also get the filmmaker,
and we did bermits to film out.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Yes, I did to film at the pageant.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
The judges were obviously aware of what was going on,
So if they knew that that was going to lessen
your chances of winning, they should have also let me
know and let me know then I'm sure you would
have never brought the cameras there.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Yeah, because it doesn't It did, and it's.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
A lot to you. Yes, it was funny though. The
one of our producers said, Gabriella, and it did make
me feel better. You already have what most of these
girls want, so you know, we already had the show,
and we have our relationship, and we have so many
opportunities ahead. So you know, it was it was what
it was.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Again, everything happens for a reason.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
So with that being said, because the show did bring
you a platform, do you not have any regrets of
going on some other No regrets?
Speaker 5 (14:17):
No, Yeah, we want to do more reality for sure.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
What other reality TV shows interest you guys?
Speaker 5 (14:29):
Oh we have a lot.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Actually, I mean, what are your top favorites?
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Dancing?
Speaker 2 (14:34):
With the Stars.
Speaker 5 (14:35):
Dancing with the Stars, of course fun.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
That would be fun.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
I would say, you guys would have to be on
different teams though.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
Yeah, you never know. I know, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
You have to get highed the Dancing with the Stars,
that's right.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
I know.
Speaker 5 (14:52):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Interesting that. I don't think I could train for a
year to do that. I mean it's harder than you think.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Yeah, very hard. Mom was on it.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Yeah, it's blood, sweat and tears. You are rehearsing each week,
every single day, hours on end, perfecting your routine.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
It's a lot of work.
Speaker 5 (15:13):
Yes, yeah, so that maybe the amazing race because they
do do duos.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
I don't know. That could be cute.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
We'll see.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
So you guys are set on a duo? Would you
ever do anything as a family?
Speaker 3 (15:26):
We could because you know, my other two daughters, the sisters,
which we call them, they were on the show with us,
and they were really fan favorites because they're almost the
complete opposite of us. So we would actually love to
do things with the sisters. We'd always include them if there.
Speaker 5 (15:41):
Was like an opportunity where like my mom was gonna
be like a hoster of her own show, if she
want me on it, whatever, if there was like an
opportunity for me to do a show, like, there's no
like it needs to be the both of us.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
It's just we like to be the both like you prefer.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
But you can go on gen X. You're always what
I say.
Speaker 5 (16:02):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
I know we have our mothers make little appearances here
and there.
Speaker 5 (16:13):
See you come on, all right, there you go.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
You're always in New York. I know, we'll see.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
What you would have to make the move a little closer.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
I'll go with her.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
How do your other daughters take it?
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Obviously it's very obvious you receive a lot of the
public attention. Do they ever wish to have that or
do they hate it?
Speaker 4 (16:39):
Never? Literally?
Speaker 5 (16:40):
And people are like, oh, I feel so bad for
the sisters because they on my mom because of this,
Like they think they're neglected. They just don't want the spotlight.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Yeah yeah, so they feel as though you obviously praise
your daughter and then neglect your other daughters.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
That's what people do, what some people think online, but
that is not true true. I smother all the children, yes,
you know, just because we happen to do this career together.
My little one, she dances, so you know we're at
dance competitions. We go to see her at dance, you'll
see us pulling her luggage with her ten costumes. So
(17:17):
people don't see what's behind the scenes. Besides, because she
will yell them out and she's like, do not post me.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
And that's also very like, I'm sure your daughters respect
that because my one sister, Gabriella, she's very private. Even
though we are a very public family, my sister Gabriella
really does not like the spotlight. She doesn't like the
social media. She doesn't want to be involved in it. Correct,
So my mother respects that. Yes, there are certain situations
where Gabriella will come in and be on it very little,
(17:48):
but she'll come in once in a while. But she
comes in, you know, says her peace and does a
very nice exit out. You know, you have to respect
your child's wishes. And my mom has never forced us
to be a part of the reality TV world. It
was honestly up to us and which one of us like,
(18:09):
which one of us wanted to really do it. And
I was always kind of my mom's right hand man,
so I always, you know, was there with her, talked
to her, gave her advice, and she is my best friend.
We talk about everything. So that was how we worked
and how we navigated it. And it obviously, you know,
(18:30):
the platform of the Real Housewives in New Jersey. Obviously
I'm so grateful for it. You know, my career was
able to flourish from it. But it really comes down
to what your kids are comfortable with. And if your
daughters do not want to be involved, that's right. They
shouldn't feel here, and we.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
Don't want me to post them on social media once
in a while.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
To approve all before being post.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
They don't even want to be on a sty If
I put a story, mom, take that out, take that down.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
So same thing. It's on repeat in my house exactly.
So I totally got it right.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
So we're like you and your mom. The other sisters
they don't want it as much.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Yeah, Milania is very involved.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
So Malania obviously is on social media and participates in
you know, the show and stuff. But Gabriella and Audriana
are more reserved. And our Audriana is still young. She's fifteen,
so she's still little, even though she's growing up she's
kind of figuring it out. She's still young. She's you know,
one day she'll make herself public. Then she'll be like, actually,
(19:38):
never mind, I'm gonna go back on private. So she's
figuring it out, seeing which route she wants to take.
But Gabrielle is definitely the most reserved, and I would
say me and Milania are the most open to it.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
So you have to do what's best for your family exactly.
Speaker 5 (19:55):
Yeah, it's funny because in the comment section of my video,
it's always like, you look like the good eyes girl.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
Literally all the time.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
I do look like my sister Malania.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
You really do, just because my sister Milania has the
big early hair, and I mean my mom's hair looked
exactly like yours growing up, and Malania has the curly hair,
and you really do.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Yeah, I know you guys. Guys are gorgeous.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
People have said that often.
Speaker 5 (20:21):
I've seen like memes together of like you and your
mom and then my mom.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Yes, that's so funny.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Is there a side to pageantry that people don't know about?
Speaker 5 (20:33):
I think all the training, because I think you see
on stage it's just.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Like it was your special talent.
Speaker 5 (20:38):
So there was actually no talent luckily.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
No.
Speaker 5 (20:41):
So the America system is a scholarship pageant and that's
where you do a talent. I did the Miss USA system,
so there's no talent. So you did walking in the
swimsuit and then you did evening gown and interview.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
So no, there's no talent.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
No, I always had to do a talent.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
It was your talent.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
We're probably in the Miss America system.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
I think I was.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Yeah, yeah, I think I was.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
I did it when I was little, very little.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
I think I did like a dance gymnastics kind of
routine because I always used to tumble.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
I was a big tumbler.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
As I got older, I fell in love with cheerleading,
so I was a competitive cheerleader, so I was always
into the tumbling aspect of things. So I would just
like whip myself around on stage and do like a
bunch of backflips.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Do that.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
But yeah, I think I I want to say I
was probably like runner up something like that. It was
when the Tea mobile flip phones were a thing, So
I had.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
The pink Tea mobile flip phone. Yeah, no, so it
was it was a while ago.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
That was like my first phone, and I think because
I was so upset, probably because I didn't win or something.
My dad got me the little tea mobile Pink Gabrielle.
Having your mom by your side throughout did it feel
inspiring or did you feel more pressure?
Speaker 4 (21:57):
No, I'm definitely more inspired.
Speaker 5 (21:59):
And I feel like in this industry, like you need
two people to navigate it because it's like, you know,
you don't know like who to trust, where to turn,
and like there's no textbook of like where to turn
to next. So it's really nice, Like my mom and
I go to events all the time, and like I
wouldn't go by myself.
Speaker 4 (22:14):
I get lost, you know.
Speaker 5 (22:15):
So it's nice to have it because it's like she's
going to network. I'm in a network, and we can
like all come together and really like delegate.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Yeah, so when you guys do brand deals, do you
typically do them together or do you guys have some
that are separate a lot of the time separate.
Speaker 5 (22:29):
Sometimes friends do want to work with us since it's
like a multi generational audience. But yeah, I do a
lot of my social media brand deals by myself.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Okay, so but is your account together? No, Okay, they're
two separated.
Speaker 5 (22:41):
So my mom she just started TikTok got it so
and she like kind of just started her Instagram.
Speaker 4 (22:45):
She's trying.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
Trying to.
Speaker 5 (22:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
I mean I my mom was killing it with her
cooking video tiktoks.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
I'm like, Mom, we gotta get more.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
We got to keep doing this, like yeah, for New
York Times bestselling author for your cookbooks, like yes, go
you're New York Times bestselling author too as well, right.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
By inspirational books. Yes, well that's what When she was like,
you have to start TikTok whatever you gets ready with
me videos or beauty tips and I was like, well,
how about my inspiration and she's like.
Speaker 5 (23:18):
No, okay, you could do it, but sometimes it gets
a little boring, you know, I need like.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
We need something right.
Speaker 5 (23:24):
Yeah, And I think people actually really like the tips
because people want to know, like how does a mom
like stay so youthful and like maintain youth forever?
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (23:31):
So, yeah, she gives some good tips.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
I mean even the inspirational route though, you could say
how you stay so positive, you know, like wearing things
that make you feel confident, just anything like that.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
True? All right, Well direct me so I can get started.
Speaker 5 (23:45):
Now.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
It's a lot when you're trying to manage your own
social media and also help your mom, I know, but.
Speaker 5 (23:51):
She asks me to come on true, So like she's
a lot of my videos on my channel and so
you need to do the same.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
Yeah, So like I produce them.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
I'm like, come on, we'll see. That's right. You need
to come on mind so I can get some tell
her alright.
Speaker 5 (24:06):
She usually takes whatever I post, and then if she's
in it, she'll post on.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
I mean, honestly, that is good to do sometimes, but
not all the time now because sometimes the one account,
most of the time, the one account that posts it
first is obviously.
Speaker 5 (24:22):
Correct because they can see it's like yeahah.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
But she does excellent with the brand deals, I mean,
and she does it all on her own.
Speaker 5 (24:29):
I feel like it's really interesting to be like in
a new industry. You know, it's like what's new in
twenty twenty five, Like brand deals and social media has
only been like really the past five years, like this
one everyone started TikTok.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
That's when I started, I would say, since Covid, Yeah,
and everything really blew up and giving people the opportunity
to explore this as a career is so amazing. Yeah,
it gives you the flexibility to really create your own
schedule while also being super busy, and the opportunities are endless,
whether it's about in New York, just posting videos constantly
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on your page. Honestly, like as weird, as it is said,
with the world as your oyster, like you can do
whatever you want when it comes to social media.
Speaker 5 (25:10):
As long as you're consistent, Like it's literally only going
to grow and you're only going to get more opportunities.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
One thousand percent. Did the show change your relationship at all?
Speaker 2 (25:18):
I think so.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
I feel closer to her one hundred percent. I mean
I was always close to the girls, but because we're
together so much, it's almost it's like a business.
Speaker 5 (25:28):
So we take calls together, like we're.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
Constantly constantly on calls, constantly navigating things, constantly talking about
what's our next you know, opportunity, what's the next event,
what what are we going to strive for next. We
have a vision board together. I love that, a mother
daughter vision board. So we have all our goals right
there on the vision board and they're all going to
come true.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
I love that. That's so cute.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
The two of you recently hosted The Ultimate Miss USA pageant.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
You share so.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
Many special experiences as a duo Gabriella. As you got
older and get older, do you ever feel like.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
You want to step out on your own more?
Speaker 5 (26:15):
Honestly, I want to ride the duo out, you know,
like I want to write it out, you know, while
my mom's here and she's looking hot, Like, let's write
it out. And then, you know, even if I did,
like get a boyfriend or anything, like, she's gonna have
to you know, be a part of the relationship, make
sure he likes her as well and she likes him.
And yeah, So honestly, unless an opportunity came that it
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was like, listen, there's like a dating show you have
to go on by yourself. I'd be like, can my
mom make an appearance too? But you know we could
break off, but right now, let's rite it.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Do you ever feel like this affects your dating life
at all?
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Like?
Speaker 5 (26:49):
Probably be? I mean, who cares at the end of
the day, like whatever.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
You come from an Italian family, That's how we are,
you know, we like, yeah, yeah, I'm in my mom.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
That's how we were growing up as kids.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
My mom, we were all matching. My sisters and I
even before my sisters came along, my mom would change
me as a baby ten times a day just to
get a photo. So totally understand the whole thing. And
I think maybe, like as you're getting older, because now
you're twenty five, when you are trying to go into
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the dating world and you know, meet somebody, maybe somebody
looks at this and thinks it's a little like, I
don't know, maybe strange, right.
Speaker 5 (27:33):
Probably like for a guy's perspective.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
I'm thinking of a.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Guy, not like not people in our industry exactly, not
people in our industry, because at the end of the day,
you guys are probably as much as obviously you love
being this duo, you're also doing it because it's making
you guys successful as well. Yeah, it's all a part
of your career. Now, this is your guys's image. This
is the image that you guys have to forefront and
like really make your all. So for actually boys who
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don't really fully understand the social media world, yes, they're
probably like what.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Is going on?
Speaker 5 (28:06):
Probably?
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Yeah, sure, yeah it's fine.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
I never said better than being boring? Right, yeah why not?
Speaker 4 (28:12):
Why not?
Speaker 2 (28:13):
You guys are different?
Speaker 3 (28:14):
And if he's not going to embrace your career. Yeah
and all the rest. Well, then it's not going to work,
going to be the right one you want some of
this report.
Speaker 5 (28:24):
Of how has it been dating Connecticut men? I mean,
I feel like the men are way more beautiful in Miami.
Speaker 4 (28:33):
But it's fine. I don't know.
Speaker 5 (28:35):
I mean again, like we're really building our empires, so
like it's not like on the forefront right now, Like
I definitely don't want a boyfriend, but like a little
like a little something could be cute, but I don't know,
because like I'm a very like intentional, blunt person. So
like if I'm gonna have you as my boyfriend, I
have intentions to marry you, and like I don't want
a husband right now.
Speaker 4 (28:54):
You know.
Speaker 5 (28:54):
So it's a hard it's a hard position to be in.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
See, I mean, do you obviously have your friend group
at home like you go out with your girlfriends. Yeah,
you obviously can experience.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
When Yeah, of course. I mean that's another thing. People
think that.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
That you guys are glued.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
To the other night like it's okay, yeah, like I
won't let her out of her room and that is
just not the case.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
I mean, you know, I run this duo.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Also she's great.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
I mean she's really in charge. But yeah, I mean
we both have a life besides our duo.
Speaker 5 (29:28):
Outside of But I like also like if I'm out,
guys are not coming up to me. They're like, I
don't know if it's my energy, but I don't know.
I feel like they're either intimidated or I feel like nowadys,
guys don't shoot their shot.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
No, Honestly, I think as also as time has gone on,
it was very normalized back you know, probably in your
time and my mom's time, where the guy goes up
to the woman is very assertive direct. That's if they
want something, you know, they go after it. I feel
like our generation not so much. And I think guys
(30:03):
are afraid, intimidated. They really don't shoot their shot as often.
And now I feel like girls shoot the shot first
more so than the guys and listen sometimes that works, yeah,
and it's okay to obviously, you know, maybe give a
little eye contact across the bar, maybe try to like
reel someone in. But I feel like they need like
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the green light before yes, approaching.
Speaker 4 (30:29):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
I feel like if you like give them that like
eye contact across the bar or show that you have interest,
then maybe they'll come over.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
But I feel like they need.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
That little likes that's like to be like it's okay.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Okay, yeah, yeah, no, I totally agree me.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
What are some of the challenges that you guys have
faced in this mother daughter dynamic.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
I think we're learning and we're growing. I think the
biggest challenge is who to trust? Yeah, in the industry.
Speaker 5 (30:57):
Yeah, and like finding the right teaming, the.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Right no, so even like with her brand deals for example.
Speaker 5 (31:06):
You know, trusting the right person because either they want
too much or they will promise the world and not
get you anything.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
And we're not comfortable with signing our life away, especially
you know under contract stay with TLC and then contract.
So that has been the most challenging of who to trust.
Does she need a brand manager for her brand deals
or who is it?
Speaker 5 (31:30):
Yeah, we like excellence, so like we're also not going
to settle very so we don't.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
Want somebody that oh, makes an excuse, Oh it's summer,
there's nothing going on, or it's the weekend. No one's
taken a call that is that's just not true.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
I will confirm that for you guys in this industry,
trusting the right people is very, very difficult. Correct, everyone's
going to try to get one over on you. They're
going to try to more. They especially if you guys
are not trained to expect what is expected in the industry,
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they will try to take advantage. For example, a brand
deal anything like that. If you have a manager, they
typically take ten percent. Say then you bring your manager
with you. When you sign an agency, they also take
ten percent. So then essentially you are giving away twenty
percent of your paycheck. But that's how things normally work.
Speaker 4 (32:31):
Because then there's some.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
And you're like, what, no, that that's like unheard of. Yeah,
it's typically the standard is ten percent. The more people
you bring in, obviously, you know, the more gets taken
out of your paycheck. Say you bring a lawyer in,
Typically a lawyer is like five percent. So you know,
as you obviously expand your team, they take a little
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more and a little more. But the biggest takeaway is
when you sign with a great team, they should also
be bringing you in the revenue where that percentage is
in life or.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
Death, Well, that's the person I want, whatever is because
it's fine. We're happy to pay someone for their hard work.
We don't want to pay when someone's not working, or
just pay for an advice. I mean, if somebody called
me today and asked me, oh, can you get a
job and.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Never pay for advice. You only pay if they're bringing you.
Speaker 5 (33:30):
I know.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
But it's like people want It's strange to me, but
people want money for just advice.
Speaker 5 (33:36):
But the nice thing is at least like we have
like my mom and I so like if it was
just me, yeah, someone could pull one over on me
because you know, allakala dizzy, you know, but I feel
like having my mom in this, they're not always going
to you.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
Know, but it's hard to navigate who Yeah, I mean,
we we need the right team or right person to
take it to the next level I feel. I mean,
we've done really great on our own, but again, hard
to trust.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
It's hard to trust.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
And then sometimes, you know, when you are doing things
on your own, sometimes you feel like a small fish
in a big pond because you could see the potential
and you could see what's there. So then you get
a little lost in the sauce and you're like, okay, wait,
I see what's out there. I see my numbers, I
see my following.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
Because I'm starting to there. It's also like the brand.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
Yeah, but it's.
Speaker 5 (34:28):
Also like we have things in the work, so we
also want to be prepared with the right team for
when that does happen.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
You know.
Speaker 5 (34:35):
So it's just like kind of planning in advance.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
It's crazy industry, having your meetings, like I mean, just
like again, someone that we can trust, that believes in
us and it's going to make good money.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
Yes, you know, start reaching out to agencies.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
Really, but a lot of the agencies you need an
invite in. Invite in. Hello, can't we just knock on
the door and make an appointment?
Speaker 2 (34:56):
Yeah, Hello, reach out a TLC.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
Maybe they have some connections with the agencies because they're
a big network. Does your husband express opinions about your dynamic,
good or bad?
Speaker 5 (35:07):
He's really quiet, very quiet. He stays in the background.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
He doesn't care again, doesn't want the camera, not interested,
stays in the background, stays on the computer. So no,
he he knows that I've always been close to the girls.
I've always been the one that would be driving the
girls here, bringing them to dance, bringing them to sports,
and volunteering in the school. It's probably similar to your mom.
Speaker 5 (35:33):
So no, he's he doesn't mind.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
No, he's but does he does he love it obviously
that you're so close with your daughters, or does he
ever think that like this is too much too?
Speaker 5 (35:44):
I think I think he's fine with it. I think
he's kind of like, whatever makes you happy, I'm cool.
He's like super chill, Okay, I love that.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
We love a supportive DoD.
Speaker 6 (35:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
And I also think that again he sees like it's your.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
Brand, correct, yeah, so and.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
So he understands this also, like this is your business,
this is your.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
Money, right, and it's nothing that we haven't done our
whole day.
Speaker 5 (36:05):
He's also like very supportive in other avenues, like I
drive a pink jeep, Like he helped me like find
the guy to wrap it, you know, like he let
me paint the front door of our house pink. Like
it's he's supportive and he's he's down for whatever.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
I love that. So you're still living at home? Yes, okay,
love that. Do you have any plans I'm moving out
anytime soon?
Speaker 3 (36:24):
No?
Speaker 6 (36:24):
No.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
People complain about that too.
Speaker 4 (36:27):
Yeah, they're like you got to move.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
In our culture, the children stay in the house until
they're married. Most of the time.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
Even with me, if I didn't have, you know, a
career that drove me to the city every single day.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
I would stay home, your home with your family.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
What's I love every every aspect of it. Yes, but
obviously it's a lot for me. It's straining for me
to constantly go back and forth into the city, and
right now, at this point in my life, it makes
the most sense for me to move closer to here. Yeah,
so that is, you know, my journey, that's my path.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
But like if I didn't have to.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
I love to be at home.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
It's really the girls house. It's really not our house.
It's really your house. We have the home for the children,
so hello and the animals. So again more hate, Yeah,
I hate appreciate.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
Yeah, no, it's true. It's true.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
People are always gonna hate though you have to you
got to know that if there is another season of Smothered,
can fans expect to see you guys back on the show? Yes,
so you guys would love to continue this journey. Yes,
what's going on in this mother duo career right now?
Speaker 5 (37:48):
Yeah, we we travel a lot, Like we just hosted
the pageant in Florida then is Oldimate USA pageant. That
was really fun because you never did it hosting before,
so that was new.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
I think we did great.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
Host is awesome.
Speaker 4 (37:59):
Yeah, it's super fun.
Speaker 5 (38:00):
Yes, And then we're working on a little project right now,
so we'll see.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
I can't say anything about it.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
And we have New York Fashion Week coming is coming up.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
See how you guys planning out all your matching fits.
Speaker 4 (38:12):
Of course Lulu's actually sent these to us.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
Oh this is Luluse.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
That's cute.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
And they have great dresses. They do, they do so
Lulu dresses. Where are the heels from Luluse to Yeah, so.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
Much T Max? I think TJ Max. We love there
you go.
Speaker 5 (38:32):
Looks like my mom's a Maxinisa.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
Should do like you guys do outfits of the day
when you like we do.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
We should have a brand deal with Marshals and Home Goods.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
I love home Goods. Yes, I can't wait to get
all my stuff.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
I know we're trying everything. We're trying to the house
up now for you know, anticipation of more filming. So yeah,
we are getting the house a little bit more in honor.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
I love that. Thank you so much, thanks for having us.
This was such a fun episode.
Speaker 1 (39:02):
I am so excited to see more of the duo
in the future.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
And that's all for this week. See you guys next time.
Hey guys, and welcome back to another week of casual Chaos.
This week we have a smother duo in the house,
Catherine and Gabriella.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Welcome to Casual Chaos.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Thank you, thank you for having us.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Oh my god, so excited to have you. Guys.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
The matching outfits are killing me. It's like head to
tell you guys are matching. This is a full beat.
Speaker 4 (00:21):
This is true, this is true. The manicure, the French
manicare my god.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
I have to say, do you ever get people to
say this is kind of freaking them out?
Speaker 4 (00:30):
Honestly.
Speaker 5 (00:31):
The funniest thing is on the street you are like,
are you guys sisters?
Speaker 1 (00:34):
I mean you guys or twins? Yeah, You're just like, yeah,
you're definitely twins.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
I think it's wonderful. I mean we have three daughters.
I know you're from a family of four girls, and
I just always matched the girls as soon as they
were born, you know, this one, this one, then the
third came and we just always matched and the other
sisters kind of grew out of it.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
So are they more girly girls or tom boys? Are
still girly girls but just not a pot boys?
Speaker 5 (01:03):
Yeah, like they were cross.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Yeah, okay, what's the age difference between you and your sisters?
Speaker 5 (01:10):
So my older sister's twenty six, I'm twenty five, and
my little sister's twenty.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Oh wow, okay, yeah, so you're the girly girl. They're
more on just like streetwear more.
Speaker 5 (01:21):
Yeah, street They go to school like they go to
they went to college, like I didn't go to college.
Like oh okay, it's just like two different kinds of girls.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Yeah, got it. Okay.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
And you guys are from Connecticut, yes, okay, very fun.
So you guys were on the hit TV shows Smothered
on TLC.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
How did that come about?
Speaker 4 (01:41):
It was, oh my mom, it was me she did this.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Yeah, I mean I saw a casting many years ago
and the casting was like you're mini me. And because
again always with the girls, always with the fashion pageants, dance.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
It was kind of in your nature.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Correct. I sent photos in and nothing came to be
of it. And then I found out that it was
called Smothered, and we did send a casting real nothing
came of it. And then when social media came, Gabriella
started doing tiktoks and all of the tiktoks that I
came in went viral.
Speaker 5 (02:15):
Yeah, we had a couple like really viral moments. So
then I think that also helped in the casting process.
He was like, wait, the numbers kind of show it,
so of course he gave us a chance.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
So yeah, the casting man gave us a chance. His
name is Paul, and we auditioned and we're very happy
to be on the show.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
That's awesome. So the basis of the show was pageants, So.
Speaker 5 (02:35):
It's really about like a really close mother daughter duo bond.
Our storyline just happened to follow pageantry because literally, during
that time of year, I was genuinely competing for this
pageant and the show just happened to be there and
film it. Like it wasn't like, oh they wanted me
to compete in a pageant.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Oh, it was really also just about your storyline, was
your life in the pageant world? Yeah, but everyone else
kind of just showed their relationship ship as close mother
and daughter.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Correct.
Speaker 5 (03:01):
Yeah, My mom's a formist Connecticut USSA, so she like
you are you.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Are as well? Right?
Speaker 4 (03:07):
No?
Speaker 3 (03:07):
No, no, that was she would't win.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
They wouldn't let me win.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
No, that's the this is the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Yeah, Okay, okay, Okay, now I'm understanding. You are Miss Connecticut.
You got Top five barely.
Speaker 5 (03:22):
Sometimes they were like you're out of here.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Yeah, even though she could win Miss Universe.
Speaker 5 (03:29):
Yeah, so on the show, you see me lose gracefully,
like they gave me like fourth runner up. Fine, you
know what, I'll be chill right.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
But then last year.
Speaker 5 (03:39):
I competed again and I could just say the crew
was there just filming, and yeah, they didn't even give
me Top five.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
They were like they're not having it.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Eleven girls.
Speaker 5 (03:49):
They were like literally, there was not like the un
the girls to choose from. I was like, my interview
was so good, like my aunt stage performance. I had
a custom gown made in New York, which I always do,
but it was so beautiful, and I felt so super
confident in the weekend, and like I heard, girls were
trying to get me disqualified before I even stepped on stage.
I was like, wait a minute, what's going on.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
So maybe the judges felt with the cameras there, yeah,
want girls to think or other things exactly to think
that it was an easy win.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (04:17):
Yeah, And that's why I felt like I had to
be even more on my game because if I did win.
I had to prove like no, no, like I really
did do flawless. So it was like even more pressure
on me. But I gave my all. And it's all
right because like I do believe in God's journey and
I think that we have a really great path. And
you know, my mom and I we do all these
appearances all over the country anyways, and that is like
what the crown is. It gives you the platform. But
(04:39):
having the show actually gave me the platform. So it
kind of all worked.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Out in disguise.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
Yeah, but it was like.
Speaker 5 (04:44):
A legacy to win my mom's title.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
But it's all right.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Who knows, who knows?
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Yeah, I mean what I feel like, what you are
in your twenties.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
I was gonna say, I feel like usually the Miss Universes,
they are in their twenties.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Yes, you have time.
Speaker 5 (05:00):
Well they cut off there's no more age limit.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
I know they cut that out.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
What was the age limit.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
I could even apply. The age limit was I think
nineteen to twenty twenty six or twenty and it was
younger then up twenty and now unlimited, unlimited, so anybody
and you can be married before it, Miss Connecticut, you
couldn't be you couldn't be married, of course, because of
(05:28):
you couldn't be pregnanty anything.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
But now they're like whatever goes.
Speaker 5 (05:31):
So yeah, I could compute till when I'm.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Fifty bo We'll see if that's in the car.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
So you two have one of the closest relationships on
the show Smothered. Were you nervous to show how close
you were? And like, did you receive any backlash from
the show?
Speaker 2 (05:50):
How was that?
Speaker 5 (05:51):
I mean, I think it was very authentic, like they
didn't you know, it wasn't like a produced show because
smmer reality shows of course are produced. But it was
a very offuthentic show and really did show our relationship
in our life. So I wasn't really embarrassed because I
don't really care what people think personally.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Yeah, as you should.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
It was. It was a crazy experience, yeah, I mean,
and even still because we still do a lot of
we do a lot of social media together, I didn't
expect the amount of hate and naked chi at online.
I get it crazy, So initially, yeah, it bothered me
initially because I just wasn't but also their generation didn't
(06:31):
understand like social media hate, where I feel like our
generation were like, you're crazy for saying that, Like it's okay.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
But like it's definitely different.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
The generational growth of social media is crazy.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
But our parents didn't grow up with it now, they
didn't even have correct of it.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
So, I mean, I couldn't imagine going on with my
social media account and saying horrible things about someone's mother
or someone's daughter or anybody. Like why would anybody?
Speaker 1 (07:00):
We're coming for your character and everything just every day
still come for me.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
It's everything, it's it's everything. So but no, it's fine.
I mean, she talks me through it. We talk through it,
so I think just having that support, she wants to go.
Speaker 5 (07:16):
On there and fight them.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
She's like, please let me comment.
Speaker 5 (07:18):
I'm like, we don't comment, do they?
Speaker 4 (07:19):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
You can't engage. You have to just disengage.
Speaker 6 (07:24):
Know that.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
As my mom says, any press is good press.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Yes, well that's what she tells me. She's like, you're
doing something.
Speaker 5 (07:33):
Like you can cry when they're not talking about you.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
Yes, And yeah, well we're doing something right then, because
they're always talking about me.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Definitely.
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Speaker 1 (08:45):
So you made a TikTok video last year that went
viral because you didn't place in.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
The top five. What was that video like?
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Were you more so angry in the moment because you
didn't make the top five.
Speaker 5 (08:57):
Yeah, that video and viral anyway, it's not even the
one video, but like other people reposted the video and
then stitched it so that video was not made on
like heavy heat. That was me two days after, like
days after, you.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Know you like reflected reflected. Okay, now I wrote that out.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
I knew what I was saying.
Speaker 5 (09:16):
But I'm also have a bold personality and like I'm
not gonna like myself.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Guys, I'm more Mediterranean, yeah.
Speaker 5 (09:23):
And I'm an aries like I'm very fiery. So it's
like some people took the video as like me being
cocky or like, oh she is a sore loser, but
like I also couldn't say everything that really happened that
weekend for other reasons. So it's like, yeah, if honestly,
like it was crazy in.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
The moment, you know, well because we were filming, Yeah,
we were filming, so in words, knew that we were filming, right,
I mean the camera.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Was during the first season of the show.
Speaker 5 (09:52):
No, actually, I'll just feel the tea, so.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
So we were fit.
Speaker 5 (09:57):
We filmed at the pageant for season six of Smothered,
even though it wasn't greenlit yet because they were like,
this is a huge part of your storyline. You're genuinely
going to compete in this pageant. What if I went
and won and then there's no footage to like show
when that's where the storyline ended off. Yeah, so they
were like, let's.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
Just film it.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
So we filmed it, and that hurt my chances. I
mean I also feel that why can't she speak her mind?
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (10:23):
I mean if it was a man and they were
talking about sports, right, yeah, sports, they're like pissed or something.
But she was speaking her mind. And I mean I
was there. I saw exactly what happened. Most people saw
exactly what happened, and she was just speaking her mind.
It was no negativity against any of the other girls.
(10:44):
When she said there's no competition, that simply meant.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
The statement Connecticut.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
We had like eleven girls. In California, or in New York,
there's two or three hundred girls.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Texas there's one hundred year competition.
Speaker 5 (10:59):
Yeah, so like I did make a statement. I said,
in Connecticut it's not a big pageant state, there was
no there's no competition, as in like the number of people,
there's no competition, there's ten girls compared to other states.
Even New York has two hundred girls.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
Kennet is not a big pageant state.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
She did congratulate the winner. I mean it was those
were comments that were made that you know, you were
a sort loser, you didn't congratulate the winner, and you did.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
Yeah. I was always very kind to the winner.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Yeah, and all the girls run. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
I feel like, especially now, to people use social media
as a platform to really speak their mind and speak
their opinion. Yeah, and that was also frowned upon, but
now everybody does it on social media, whether you receive
the backlash or not. Everybody does it, and some people
get praised for speaking their opinion while.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Others get the backlash.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
So you're entitled to your own opinion. You're entitled to
speak your mind. And it was genuinely something that happened
in your.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Life upset you. It was super jazzy, so I mean
people are gonna say it.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Also because it was a pageant.
Speaker 5 (12:04):
Of course people want the tea. And also it was
like a crazy week. But then People magazine wrote an
article about it, so it actually all worked out.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
I was like, guys, chill, Yeah, No, I mean it's
because people, you know, have this persona, especially on TLC
there was toddlers in tierras.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Yes, it's this.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Very like glitz and glam girls acting like I mean
not even really girls, because you guys are really showing
your beauty, really rehearsing for this, and it's a lot
of hard work and dedication.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Yes, you have the moms that are over the top
obviously really hyper analyzing their daughters and overanalyzing everything and
making sure that.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Everything is perfect.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
So of course from like a blind eye or for
somebody who doesn't understand that world, they're gonna be like, wow,
this is a bit much, and that's understandable.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
And you probably got that side, you know, you didn't.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
The viewers that were looking at that video probably weren't
in the pageant life.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Yeah you probably. The flow of people were probably from
everywhere else.
Speaker 5 (13:06):
Yeah, And at the end of the day, I trained
like everyone else. I trained for an entire year before,
put so much time and effort in, and I just
wanted to be treated like everyone else and given a
fair shot. And if the director said, hey, you're not
going to get a fair shot, just let me know
in advance, and I won't like put my heart into it.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Well, they should have also just said no to filming.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Yeah, you know, TLC had to also get the filmmaker,
and we did bermits to film out.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Yes, I did to film at the pageant.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
The judges were obviously aware of what was going on,
So if they knew that that was going to lessen
your chances of winning, they should have also let me
know and let me know then I'm sure you would
have never brought the cameras there.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Yeah, because it doesn't It did, and it's.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
A lot to you. Yes, it was funny though. The
one of our producers said, Gabriella, and it did make
me feel better. You already have what most of these
girls want, so you know, we already had the show,
and we have our relationship, and we have so many
opportunities ahead. So you know, it was it was what
it was.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Again, everything happens for a reason.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
So with that being said, because the show did bring
you a platform, do you not have any regrets of
going on some other No regrets?
Speaker 5 (14:17):
No, Yeah, we want to do more reality for sure.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
What other reality TV shows interest you guys?
Speaker 5 (14:29):
Oh we have a lot.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Actually, I mean, what are your top favorites?
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Dancing?
Speaker 2 (14:34):
With the Stars.
Speaker 5 (14:35):
Dancing with the Stars, of course fun.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
That would be fun.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
I would say, you guys would have to be on
different teams though.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
Yeah, you never know. I know, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
You have to get highed the Dancing with the Stars,
that's right.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
I know.
Speaker 5 (14:52):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Interesting that. I don't think I could train for a
year to do that. I mean it's harder than you think.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Yeah, very hard. Mom was on it.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Yeah, it's blood, sweat and tears. You are rehearsing each week,
every single day, hours on end, perfecting your routine.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
It's a lot of work.
Speaker 5 (15:13):
Yes, yeah, so that maybe the amazing race because they
do do duos.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
I don't know. That could be cute.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
We'll see.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
So you guys are set on a duo? Would you
ever do anything as a family?
Speaker 3 (15:26):
We could because you know, my other two daughters, the sisters,
which we call them, they were on the show with us,
and they were really fan favorites because they're almost the
complete opposite of us. So we would actually love to
do things with the sisters. We'd always include them if there.
Speaker 5 (15:41):
Was like an opportunity where like my mom was gonna
be like a hoster of her own show, if she
want me on it, whatever, if there was like an
opportunity for me to do a show, like, there's no
like it needs to be the both of us.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
It's just we like to be the both like you prefer.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
But you can go on gen X. You're always what
I say.
Speaker 5 (16:02):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
I know we have our mothers make little appearances here
and there.
Speaker 5 (16:13):
See you come on, all right, there you go.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
You're always in New York. I know, we'll see.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
What you would have to make the move a little closer.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
I'll go with her.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
How do your other daughters take it?
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Obviously it's very obvious you receive a lot of the
public attention. Do they ever wish to have that or
do they hate it?
Speaker 4 (16:39):
Never? Literally?
Speaker 5 (16:40):
And people are like, oh, I feel so bad for
the sisters because they on my mom because of this,
Like they think they're neglected. They just don't want the spotlight.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Yeah yeah, so they feel as though you obviously praise
your daughter and then neglect your other daughters.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
That's what people do, what some people think online, but
that is not true true. I smother all the children, yes,
you know, just because we happen to do this career together.
My little one, she dances, so you know we're at
dance competitions. We go to see her at dance, you'll
see us pulling her luggage with her ten costumes. So
(17:17):
people don't see what's behind the scenes. Besides, because she
will yell them out and she's like, do not post me.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
And that's also very like, I'm sure your daughters respect
that because my one sister, Gabriella, she's very private. Even
though we are a very public family, my sister Gabriella
really does not like the spotlight. She doesn't like the
social media. She doesn't want to be involved in it. Correct,
So my mother respects that. Yes, there are certain situations
where Gabriella will come in and be on it very little,
(17:48):
but she'll come in once in a while. But she
comes in, you know, says her peace and does a
very nice exit out. You know, you have to respect
your child's wishes. And my mom has never forced us
to be a part of the reality TV world. It
was honestly up to us and which one of us like,
(18:09):
which one of us wanted to really do it. And
I was always kind of my mom's right hand man,
so I always, you know, was there with her, talked
to her, gave her advice, and she is my best friend.
We talk about everything. So that was how we worked
and how we navigated it. And it obviously, you know,
(18:30):
the platform of the Real Housewives in New Jersey. Obviously
I'm so grateful for it. You know, my career was
able to flourish from it. But it really comes down
to what your kids are comfortable with. And if your
daughters do not want to be involved, that's right. They
shouldn't feel here, and we.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
Don't want me to post them on social media once
in a while.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
To approve all before being post.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
They don't even want to be on a sty If
I put a story, mom, take that out, take that down.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
So same thing. It's on repeat in my house exactly.
So I totally got it right.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
So we're like you and your mom. The other sisters
they don't want it as much.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Yeah, Milania is very involved.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
So Malania obviously is on social media and participates in
you know, the show and stuff. But Gabriella and Audriana
are more reserved. And our Audriana is still young. She's fifteen,
so she's still little, even though she's growing up she's
kind of figuring it out. She's still young. She's you know,
one day she'll make herself public. Then she'll be like, actually,
(19:38):
never mind, I'm gonna go back on private. So she's
figuring it out, seeing which route she wants to take.
But Gabrielle is definitely the most reserved, and I would
say me and Milania are the most open to it.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
So you have to do what's best for your family exactly.
Speaker 5 (19:55):
Yeah, it's funny because in the comment section of my video,
it's always like, you look like the good eyes girl.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
Literally all the time.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
I do look like my sister Malania.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
You really do, just because my sister Milania has the
big early hair, and I mean my mom's hair looked
exactly like yours growing up, and Malania has the curly hair,
and you really do.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Yeah, I know you guys. Guys are gorgeous.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
People have said that often.
Speaker 5 (20:21):
I've seen like memes together of like you and your
mom and then my mom.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Yes, that's so funny.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Is there a side to pageantry that people don't know about?
Speaker 5 (20:33):
I think all the training, because I think you see
on stage it's just.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Like it was your special talent.
Speaker 5 (20:38):
So there was actually no talent luckily.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
No.
Speaker 5 (20:41):
So the America system is a scholarship pageant and that's
where you do a talent. I did the Miss USA system,
so there's no talent. So you did walking in the
swimsuit and then you did evening gown and interview.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
So no, there's no talent.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
No, I always had to do a talent.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
It was your talent.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
We're probably in the Miss America system.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
I think I was.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Yeah, yeah, I think I was.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
I did it when I was little, very little.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
I think I did like a dance gymnastics kind of
routine because I always used to tumble.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
I was a big tumbler.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
As I got older, I fell in love with cheerleading,
so I was a competitive cheerleader, so I was always
into the tumbling aspect of things. So I would just
like whip myself around on stage and do like a
bunch of backflips.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Do that.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
But yeah, I think I I want to say I
was probably like runner up something like that. It was
when the Tea mobile flip phones were a thing, So
I had.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
The pink Tea mobile flip phone. Yeah, no, so it
was it was a while ago.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
That was like my first phone, and I think because
I was so upset, probably because I didn't win or something.
My dad got me the little tea mobile Pink Gabrielle.
Having your mom by your side throughout did it feel
inspiring or did you feel more pressure?
Speaker 4 (21:57):
No, I'm definitely more inspired.
Speaker 5 (21:59):
And I feel like in this industry, like you need
two people to navigate it because it's like, you know,
you don't know like who to trust, where to turn,
and like there's no textbook of like where to turn
to next. So it's really nice, Like my mom and
I go to events all the time, and like I
wouldn't go by myself.
Speaker 4 (22:14):
I get lost, you know.
Speaker 5 (22:15):
So it's nice to have it because it's like she's
going to network. I'm in a network, and we can
like all come together and really like delegate.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Yeah, so when you guys do brand deals, do you
typically do them together or do you guys have some
that are separate a lot of the time separate.
Speaker 5 (22:29):
Sometimes friends do want to work with us since it's
like a multi generational audience. But yeah, I do a
lot of my social media brand deals by myself.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Okay, so but is your account together? No, Okay, they're
two separated.
Speaker 5 (22:41):
So my mom she just started TikTok got it so
and she like kind of just started her Instagram.
Speaker 4 (22:45):
She's trying.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
Trying to.
Speaker 5 (22:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
I mean I my mom was killing it with her
cooking video tiktoks.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
I'm like, Mom, we gotta get more.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
We got to keep doing this, like yeah, for New
York Times bestselling author for your cookbooks, like yes, go
you're New York Times bestselling author too as well, right.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
By inspirational books. Yes, well that's what When she was like,
you have to start TikTok whatever you gets ready with
me videos or beauty tips and I was like, well,
how about my inspiration and she's like.
Speaker 5 (23:18):
No, okay, you could do it, but sometimes it gets
a little boring, you know, I need like.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
We need something right.
Speaker 5 (23:24):
Yeah, And I think people actually really like the tips
because people want to know, like how does a mom
like stay so youthful and like maintain youth forever?
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (23:31):
So, yeah, she gives some good tips.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
I mean even the inspirational route though, you could say
how you stay so positive, you know, like wearing things
that make you feel confident, just anything like that.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
True? All right, Well direct me so I can get started.
Speaker 5 (23:45):
Now.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
It's a lot when you're trying to manage your own
social media and also help your mom, I know, but.
Speaker 5 (23:51):
She asks me to come on true, So like she's
a lot of my videos on my channel and so
you need to do the same.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
Yeah, So like I produce them.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
I'm like, come on, we'll see. That's right. You need
to come on mind so I can get some tell
her alright.
Speaker 5 (24:06):
She usually takes whatever I post, and then if she's
in it, she'll post on.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
I mean, honestly, that is good to do sometimes, but
not all the time now because sometimes the one account,
most of the time, the one account that posts it
first is obviously.
Speaker 5 (24:22):
Correct because they can see it's like yeahah.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
But she does excellent with the brand deals, I mean,
and she does it all on her own.
Speaker 5 (24:29):
I feel like it's really interesting to be like in
a new industry. You know, it's like what's new in
twenty twenty five, Like brand deals and social media has
only been like really the past five years, like this
one everyone started TikTok.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
That's when I started, I would say, since Covid, Yeah,
and everything really blew up and giving people the opportunity
to explore this as a career is so amazing. Yeah,
it gives you the flexibility to really create your own
schedule while also being super busy, and the opportunities are endless,
whether it's about in New York, just posting videos constantly
(25:02):
on your page. Honestly, like as weird, as it is said,
with the world as your oyster, like you can do
whatever you want when it comes to social media.
Speaker 5 (25:10):
As long as you're consistent, Like it's literally only going
to grow and you're only going to get more opportunities.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
One thousand percent. Did the show change your relationship at all?
Speaker 2 (25:18):
I think so.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
I feel closer to her one hundred percent. I mean
I was always close to the girls, but because we're
together so much, it's almost it's like a business.
Speaker 5 (25:28):
So we take calls together, like we're.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
Constantly constantly on calls, constantly navigating things, constantly talking about
what's our next you know, opportunity, what's the next event,
what what are we going to strive for next. We
have a vision board together. I love that, a mother
daughter vision board. So we have all our goals right
there on the vision board and they're all going to
come true.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
I love that. That's so cute.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
The two of you recently hosted The Ultimate Miss USA pageant.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
You share so.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
Many special experiences as a duo Gabriella. As you got
older and get older, do you ever feel like.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
You want to step out on your own more?
Speaker 5 (26:15):
Honestly, I want to ride the duo out, you know,
like I want to write it out, you know, while
my mom's here and she's looking hot, Like, let's write
it out. And then, you know, even if I did,
like get a boyfriend or anything, like, she's gonna have
to you know, be a part of the relationship, make
sure he likes her as well and she likes him.
And yeah, So honestly, unless an opportunity came that it
(26:36):
was like, listen, there's like a dating show you have
to go on by yourself. I'd be like, can my
mom make an appearance too? But you know we could
break off, but right now, let's rite it.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Do you ever feel like this affects your dating life
at all?
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Like?
Speaker 5 (26:49):
Probably be? I mean, who cares at the end of
the day, like whatever.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
You come from an Italian family, That's how we are,
you know, we like, yeah, yeah, I'm in my mom.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
That's how we were growing up as kids.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
My mom, we were all matching. My sisters and I
even before my sisters came along, my mom would change
me as a baby ten times a day just to
get a photo. So totally understand the whole thing. And
I think maybe, like as you're getting older, because now
you're twenty five, when you are trying to go into
(27:24):
the dating world and you know, meet somebody, maybe somebody
looks at this and thinks it's a little like, I
don't know, maybe strange, right.
Speaker 5 (27:33):
Probably like for a guy's perspective.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
I'm thinking of a.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Guy, not like not people in our industry exactly, not
people in our industry, because at the end of the day,
you guys are probably as much as obviously you love
being this duo, you're also doing it because it's making
you guys successful as well. Yeah, it's all a part
of your career. Now, this is your guys's image. This
is the image that you guys have to forefront and
like really make your all. So for actually boys who
(28:00):
don't really fully understand the social media world, yes, they're
probably like what.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Is going on?
Speaker 5 (28:06):
Probably?
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Yeah, sure, yeah it's fine.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
I never said better than being boring? Right, yeah why not?
Speaker 4 (28:12):
Why not?
Speaker 2 (28:13):
You guys are different?
Speaker 3 (28:14):
And if he's not going to embrace your career. Yeah
and all the rest. Well, then it's not going to work,
going to be the right one you want some of
this report.
Speaker 5 (28:24):
Of how has it been dating Connecticut men? I mean,
I feel like the men are way more beautiful in Miami.
Speaker 4 (28:33):
But it's fine. I don't know.
Speaker 5 (28:35):
I mean again, like we're really building our empires, so
like it's not like on the forefront right now, Like
I definitely don't want a boyfriend, but like a little
like a little something could be cute, but I don't know,
because like I'm a very like intentional, blunt person. So
like if I'm gonna have you as my boyfriend, I
have intentions to marry you, and like I don't want
a husband right now.
Speaker 4 (28:54):
You know.
Speaker 5 (28:54):
So it's a hard it's a hard position to be in.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
See, I mean, do you obviously have your friend group
at home like you go out with your girlfriends. Yeah,
you obviously can experience.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
When Yeah, of course. I mean that's another thing. People
think that.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
That you guys are glued.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
To the other night like it's okay, yeah, like I
won't let her out of her room and that is
just not the case.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
I mean, you know, I run this duo.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Also she's great.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
I mean she's really in charge. But yeah, I mean
we both have a life besides our duo.
Speaker 5 (29:28):
Outside of But I like also like if I'm out,
guys are not coming up to me. They're like, I
don't know if it's my energy, but I don't know.
I feel like they're either intimidated or I feel like nowadys,
guys don't shoot their shot.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
No, Honestly, I think as also as time has gone on,
it was very normalized back you know, probably in your
time and my mom's time, where the guy goes up
to the woman is very assertive direct. That's if they
want something, you know, they go after it. I feel
like our generation not so much. And I think guys
(30:03):
are afraid, intimidated. They really don't shoot their shot as often.
And now I feel like girls shoot the shot first
more so than the guys and listen sometimes that works, yeah,
and it's okay to obviously, you know, maybe give a
little eye contact across the bar, maybe try to like
reel someone in. But I feel like they need like
(30:26):
the green light before yes, approaching.
Speaker 4 (30:29):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
I feel like if you like give them that like
eye contact across the bar or show that you have interest,
then maybe they'll come over.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
But I feel like they need.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
That little likes that's like to be like it's okay.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Okay, yeah, yeah, no, I totally agree me.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
What are some of the challenges that you guys have
faced in this mother daughter dynamic.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
I think we're learning and we're growing. I think the
biggest challenge is who to trust? Yeah, in the industry.
Speaker 5 (30:57):
Yeah, and like finding the right teaming, the.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Right no, so even like with her brand deals for example.
Speaker 5 (31:06):
You know, trusting the right person because either they want
too much or they will promise the world and not
get you anything.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
And we're not comfortable with signing our life away, especially
you know under contract stay with TLC and then contract.
So that has been the most challenging of who to trust.
Does she need a brand manager for her brand deals
or who is it?
Speaker 5 (31:30):
Yeah, we like excellence, so like we're also not going
to settle very so we don't.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
Want somebody that oh, makes an excuse, Oh it's summer,
there's nothing going on, or it's the weekend. No one's
taken a call that is that's just not true.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
I will confirm that for you guys in this industry,
trusting the right people is very, very difficult. Correct, everyone's
going to try to get one over on you. They're
going to try to more. They especially if you guys
are not trained to expect what is expected in the industry,
(32:10):
they will try to take advantage. For example, a brand
deal anything like that. If you have a manager, they
typically take ten percent. Say then you bring your manager
with you. When you sign an agency, they also take
ten percent. So then essentially you are giving away twenty
percent of your paycheck. But that's how things normally work.
Speaker 4 (32:31):
Because then there's some.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
And you're like, what, no, that that's like unheard of. Yeah,
it's typically the standard is ten percent. The more people
you bring in, obviously, you know, the more gets taken
out of your paycheck. Say you bring a lawyer in,
Typically a lawyer is like five percent. So you know,
as you obviously expand your team, they take a little
(32:56):
more and a little more. But the biggest takeaway is
when you sign with a great team, they should also
be bringing you in the revenue where that percentage is
in life or.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
Death, Well, that's the person I want, whatever is because
it's fine. We're happy to pay someone for their hard work.
We don't want to pay when someone's not working, or
just pay for an advice. I mean, if somebody called
me today and asked me, oh, can you get a
job and.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Never pay for advice. You only pay if they're bringing you.
Speaker 5 (33:30):
I know.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
But it's like people want It's strange to me, but
people want money for just advice.
Speaker 5 (33:36):
But the nice thing is at least like we have
like my mom and I so like if it was
just me, yeah, someone could pull one over on me
because you know, allakala dizzy, you know, but I feel
like having my mom in this, they're not always going
to you.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
Know, but it's hard to navigate who Yeah, I mean,
we we need the right team or right person to
take it to the next level I feel. I mean,
we've done really great on our own, but again, hard
to trust.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
It's hard to trust.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
And then sometimes, you know, when you are doing things
on your own, sometimes you feel like a small fish
in a big pond because you could see the potential
and you could see what's there. So then you get
a little lost in the sauce and you're like, okay, wait,
I see what's out there. I see my numbers, I
see my following.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
Because I'm starting to there. It's also like the brand.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
Yeah, but it's.
Speaker 5 (34:28):
Also like we have things in the work, so we
also want to be prepared with the right team for
when that does happen.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
You know.
Speaker 5 (34:35):
So it's just like kind of planning in advance.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
It's crazy industry, having your meetings, like I mean, just
like again, someone that we can trust, that believes in
us and it's going to make good money.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
Yes, you know, start reaching out to agencies.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
Really, but a lot of the agencies you need an
invite in. Invite in. Hello, can't we just knock on
the door and make an appointment?
Speaker 2 (34:56):
Yeah, Hello, reach out a TLC.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
Maybe they have some connections with the agencies because they're
a big network. Does your husband express opinions about your dynamic,
good or bad?
Speaker 5 (35:07):
He's really quiet, very quiet. He stays in the background.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
He doesn't care again, doesn't want the camera, not interested,
stays in the background, stays on the computer. So no,
he he knows that I've always been close to the girls.
I've always been the one that would be driving the
girls here, bringing them to dance, bringing them to sports,
and volunteering in the school. It's probably similar to your mom.
Speaker 5 (35:33):
So no, he's he doesn't mind.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
No, he's but does he does he love it obviously
that you're so close with your daughters, or does he
ever think that like this is too much too?
Speaker 5 (35:44):
I think I think he's fine with it. I think
he's kind of like, whatever makes you happy, I'm cool.
He's like super chill, Okay, I love that.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
We love a supportive DoD.
Speaker 6 (35:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
And I also think that again he sees like it's your.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
Brand, correct, yeah, so and.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
So he understands this also, like this is your business,
this is your.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
Money, right, and it's nothing that we haven't done our
whole day.
Speaker 5 (36:05):
He's also like very supportive in other avenues, like I
drive a pink jeep, Like he helped me like find
the guy to wrap it, you know, like he let
me paint the front door of our house pink. Like
it's he's supportive and he's he's down for whatever.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
I love that. So you're still living at home? Yes, okay,
love that. Do you have any plans I'm moving out
anytime soon?
Speaker 3 (36:24):
No?
Speaker 6 (36:24):
No.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
People complain about that too.
Speaker 4 (36:27):
Yeah, they're like you got to move.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
In our culture, the children stay in the house until
they're married. Most of the time.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
Even with me, if I didn't have, you know, a
career that drove me to the city every single day.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
I would stay home, your home with your family.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
What's I love every every aspect of it. Yes, but
obviously it's a lot for me. It's straining for me
to constantly go back and forth into the city, and
right now, at this point in my life, it makes
the most sense for me to move closer to here. Yeah,
so that is, you know, my journey, that's my path.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
But like if I didn't have to.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
I love to be at home.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
It's really the girls house. It's really not our house.
It's really your house. We have the home for the children,
so hello and the animals. So again more hate, Yeah,
I hate appreciate.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
Yeah, no, it's true. It's true.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
People are always gonna hate though you have to you
got to know that if there is another season of Smothered,
can fans expect to see you guys back on the show? Yes,
so you guys would love to continue this journey. Yes,
what's going on in this mother duo career right now?
Speaker 5 (37:48):
Yeah, we we travel a lot, Like we just hosted
the pageant in Florida then is Oldimate USA pageant. That
was really fun because you never did it hosting before,
so that was new.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
I think we did great.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
Host is awesome.
Speaker 4 (37:59):
Yeah, it's super fun.
Speaker 5 (38:00):
Yes, And then we're working on a little project right now,
so we'll see.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
I can't say anything about it.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
And we have New York Fashion Week coming is coming up.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
See how you guys planning out all your matching fits.
Speaker 4 (38:12):
Of course Lulu's actually sent these to us.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
Oh this is Luluse.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
That's cute.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
And they have great dresses. They do, they do so
Lulu dresses. Where are the heels from Luluse to Yeah, so.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
Much T Max? I think TJ Max. We love there
you go.
Speaker 5 (38:32):
Looks like my mom's a Maxinisa.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
Should do like you guys do outfits of the day
when you like we do.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
We should have a brand deal with Marshals and Home Goods.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
I love home Goods. Yes, I can't wait to get
all my stuff.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
I know we're trying everything. We're trying to the house
up now for you know, anticipation of more filming. So yeah,
we are getting the house a little bit more in honor.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
I love that. Thank you so much, thanks for having us.
This was such a fun episode.
Speaker 1 (39:02):
I am so excited to see more of the duo
in the future.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
And that's all for this week. See you guys next time.
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