November 29, 2025 • 47 mins
“Living In”
What happens when 75 girls all live together in one house? What is really going on inside??!! Roommate drama, bathroom behavior, sex, dating, friendships and frenemies!
What is it REALLY like inside the walls of Sorority House Mansions!?
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to Dirty Rush, The Truth about Sorority Life, with
your hosts me Gia, Judice.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Daisy Kent, and Jennifer Fessler. Hi, guys, it is Jen
Fessler here with another episode of Dirty Rush, and today
we are going to answer the question that we are
constantly asked, what is it like to live in a
sorority house? And to help us with that, we are
(00:28):
bringing in two of our producers, Heather and Amy and
our friend Nicki.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Hi, guys, Hi, Hi, Hi, Hi Jen.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
I agree with you. That is the number one question
people ask them of what is it like living in
a sorority?
Speaker 2 (00:42):
That is our number one question? Is absolutely true, So
let's answer the question as best as we can. You, guys, Amy,
I mean, tell me some of your thoughts here.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
So I think we had NICKI and I were in
the sorority together. So I think we probably had one
hundred people living in How many people live in your house?
You know, not that many one time.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Not as many. So it was you know, like I'm
sure like you guys, it was divided up. So I
lived in my house my junior year, but I that
was when so I had pledged lates. I had transferred
to University of Texas. So I was living with girls
that were younger than me, and I would say there
was probably fifty of us living in the house.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
So and NICKI can attest to this. One of the
like things that people really noticed about our story was
that it was mostly two girl rooms because.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
A lotled porch.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
Right, but a lot of people are turned off by
that pledge porch, don't you think, Nikki?
Speaker 3 (01:38):
It was? It was awful.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
I don't even know what is a pledge porch? Wait,
you guys, what's a pledge porch? I don't remember.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
It's like eight beds or Piey's was worse. Pie Fy's
was like one day room. We had what six.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
Or six people, and you get you get sort of
like your own little alcove, and then you get a closet.
But the thing people don't like about other stories is
that you keep your stuff in one room and then
like thirty girls sleep in what is like a I
don't even know. We didn't have them, so I don't.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Know if it's called such a bunk at camp.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
Yes, and it's all beds. I think it's always ever.
Speaker 5 (02:11):
Handmaid's Tale, Did you guys watch Handmaid's Tail? It was
literally look like Handmaid's Tale. That's just that's the vision
right there.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
You know a lot of stories have it where you
sleep in this room and it's all beds, bunk beds,
and you're sleeping in bunk beds and it's dark. I
think they keep it kind of cold in there, so
it's only for sleeping, no desks.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
You guys had never heard of this. Did other houses
have that on your campus?
Speaker 5 (02:37):
Yes, PIPI had like twenty of them, twenty beds in
one room.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
And I think people also sort of sometimes like, look,
this is a you know, a lucky thing to be
able to say, but there were people that would go
down to two top houses and they would pick the
one that they didn't have to sleep in that.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Are you sure?
Speaker 5 (02:57):
I don't remember even touring the play what we were
not in the same sorority, because I don't remember that
at all.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
No, we didn't have it. People didn't do PIPEI because
of yeah, we.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Didn't tour rooms, Amy jury.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
You do, Yes, you do. We showed off our two
girlrooms because it was a real way to get people
into our sorority.
Speaker 5 (03:17):
Right, let me tell you, it was a real way
not to have gotten me in that sorority.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Okay, I've never recovered.
Speaker 5 (03:23):
The communal showers with everybody's hair is like I've never
recovered from It's my biggest OCD triggering thing is the hair.
Speaker 6 (03:34):
Sorry non sorority girl jumping in here for a question
about bathrooms.
Speaker 7 (03:39):
I gotta know.
Speaker 6 (03:40):
First of all, we're talking about all the girls sleeping
in one bedroom. I have other questions about that bathroom.
Who's on shower duty? How many toilets are in this house?
Speaker 4 (03:52):
There's multiple bathrooms, but you'd have like six or seven
toilets just lined up like a public bathroom toilet.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
No, you have doors? You had it's doors, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
We also we had a housekeeper, so do we Yeah, we.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
Had many, So you don't. Nobody's cleaning the showers. Nobody's
cleaning the toilets. That's living in the house. But our
showers had individual stalls. Like sometimes I think people picture
it like a locker room or something where you're just
like making next for somebody.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
And the shower curtains.
Speaker 6 (04:20):
Can I just say that I wasn't picturing it like
a locker room. I was picturing it like a house
with like one toilet per bathroom.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
No, but it was our mind was it was like
a house. I mean, we didn't have any there was nobody.
There was fifteen girls congregating in one room in bunk beds.
We each got a room and they were doubles. And
it was actually very nice. I mean I compare it
to like my freshman year when I was in a dorm,
and this was way nicer, more homey. It was a
(04:50):
really pretty house. The food was really good. Yeah yeah,
I mean, and I remember, and there was just a
lot of you know, communal areas and the study room.
It was nice. I didn't. I enjoyed it well.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
With your bathroom situation.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Same thing, same thing, like stall stall stall, but nothing
that was like.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
Now, what's interesting is we sort of had like glass
between the showers, so you could fuzzy glass so you
could see sort of like if Nicky was next to me,
I would know, I'd be like, hey, nick, like what's
going on. They have since changed it, Niki, and they
made it like marble and you can't see into the
next shower.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
I saw it.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
Remember we went to a game two years ago and
we went into the house and I remember a lot
of it was still the same thoay, mey. I mean
it was a lipstick on a pig. I mean that
was not a full page one remodel.
Speaker 4 (05:41):
So Nicky and I are both fifty. So this is
thirty years ago. And the dressers where you put your
clothes are the same. They have not changed the dressers,
They've not changed the backs of the beds, but they
changed the floors. Oh, the closets exactly the same. So
we had two girls the majority two girls, some four girls,
and then the pledge which I lived on the pledge
porch and I found it fine.
Speaker 7 (06:02):
I have more questions about the pledge porch.
Speaker 6 (06:04):
Okay, So first of all, we're talking about ten plus
girls all being in there. Is it lights off at
the exact same time every What if you have somebody
on the pledge porch who talks in their sleep? What
if they want to read in their bed? I mean fine,
what if they want to do other things?
Speaker 5 (06:23):
Good point, because there were no iPhones or there was
no kindles or anything.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
It was books with like a little night light on your.
Speaker 7 (06:32):
That would seem annoying.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
But I always had a TV. I always had a
TV in a DVD or VCR, whatever it was. That's
back in the you know, nineties, So I would watch
TV and I didn't have headphones.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
We didn't have any We didn't have a pledge porch.
I mean, you guys reminded me of Sleepway camp. We
didn't have any of that. But I could tell you
that my daughter in her house, she thanked God because
she almost didn't want to pledge her sorry, because she
was going to have to live in the house and
she'd heard to night stories. We tried to get her
out of it because she has Type on diabetes. Who
tried to pull that card? We couldn't, but she ended
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up getting a single. But some of the rooms, like
the triples, they were so tight. There was absolutely nowhere
to put anything. And I remember like being amazed that
these girls could even survive. I can't imagine a pledge porch.
Speaker 7 (07:19):
What if you're sick in that pledge porch?
Speaker 5 (07:22):
Your shower, Caddy, You're a little shower Caddie.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
You know what's so funny? Because Heather, I think we were.
I don't remember who I was talking to about this yesterday,
but I was preparing for this show trying to remember.
It's two things I do not remember, and I'm going
to tell you I don't remember ever getting sick, even
though I was basically living in a petri dish filled
with people. I don't remember ever like throwing up, getting
a cold, nothing, And I truly this is gross. Sorry, guys,
(07:51):
this is gross. I don't remember doing anything other than
number one. Obviously I did because I lived there for
three years. But I have no men of being like
I had to poop next to somebody.
Speaker 7 (08:02):
Maybe you did it outside the house.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
Well, so that's an interesting point, Nikki. There are two
guest bathrooms in our authorty that were individual and I
do think on Gaily Nicky people went down and like
went in that.
Speaker 5 (08:15):
So the one by the little den, that one, and
then where was the where was the other down there's
third floor.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
There was one on the third floor down at the
very very end of the gaily hallway, like if you
were at the President's room and one of someone might
have had a weird bathtub. I can't quite remember.
Speaker 6 (08:33):
I'm trying to think of all things I've experienced with roommates.
Were you allowed to smoke? Were you allowed to burn?
Speaker 1 (08:41):
No?
Speaker 4 (08:42):
You probably no. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
No candles anything.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
With my boys, there's definitely no boys.
Speaker 6 (08:49):
No candles and no incense and a bunch of young
women all crammed into a space.
Speaker 7 (08:56):
How are we making itsell nice in there?
Speaker 4 (08:59):
I couldn't say.
Speaker 5 (09:00):
Not.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
In the bedrooms. We could have boys in the bedrooms.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
Yeah, we could have boys in the bedrooms till ten.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
O'clock, even in the whatever room in the in your bedroom,
yeah no, but I mean the one with the eighteen beds,
yeah yeahom yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
Nobody was doing funny business. I never experienced that. And
the other thing, Nikki is I don't remember people being
naked like people always like and you just stand around naked,
and I'm.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Like, no, no.
Speaker 5 (09:23):
I remember getting in the shower really quickly and putting
my towel on and like jumping in and all of
that stuff.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
You know.
Speaker 5 (09:30):
What I do remember that was interesting, is like I
just think I was actually thinking that, like, how did
we all decide who were we going to be roommates with?
I think the girls were nicer back then. I think
it was just there was not mean girls at least.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
I don't remember.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
When we were like house manager and it was very easy.
People totally knew who their roommates were going to be,
and then where your room was was based on points,
so obviously the third floor was better than the second floor,
and daily was better than the main two hallways, and
so seniors had more points, so they started to get
the better room.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
I remember not my roommate not being happy with me.
We were friends, we picked each other, and I was
a dirty slob and just just horrible.
Speaker 6 (10:11):
Okay, this goes to my other question. You said nobody
was cleaning up the bathrooms. Who like, what if you
go in and your roommate has.
Speaker 7 (10:20):
Her clothes everywhere or what happens?
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Then you fight? I mean, for me, we fought, and
I was really embarrassed by it, and I was just
at the point in my life where I just couldn't
get it together. I just was a slob.
Speaker 7 (10:35):
Does the house person do your laundry too?
Speaker 4 (10:38):
No? No, no, you have to do.
Speaker 6 (10:40):
I mean, you're the website that you didn't have to
clean the bathrooms.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
I'm done.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
One time Nicky wasn't there. But one time that there
was like a weekend and only a few of us
were there. Everybody went home for some reason and the
furnace exploded and we all thought we were It was
so gnarly, like I remember being like I think like
something really like we're all going to die. But it
was just the furnace. I never had a messy roommate.
I don't think I was messy. Nikki, did you did
(11:05):
you have someone messy?
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Well?
Speaker 5 (11:07):
I think there was only one or two washer dryers,
And I actually remember having to sit down there.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
With quarters, right, I think we had quarters.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
They didn't let us use it for free. We did quarters.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
Yeah, And also we had Alsa units. Do you guys
know what that is?
Speaker 5 (11:26):
That was very big Elsa They still have Elpa's at
Container store.
Speaker 8 (11:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
So they were like in your closet, you'd hang some
of your clothes and then you would have these like
Elsa units, which were like drawers, but they were like
wire and you'd literally get like lines in your underwear.
But whatever, you didn't care. And then we had a dresser.
I mean it was tight, but I don't remember it
being like a problem.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
I loved living in the sorority.
Speaker 5 (11:50):
And now that I'm you know, obviously divorced and you know,
almost fifty four and spend so much time with my
friends who are also divorced or getting divorced, we all
talk about living together again number one day and having
like a modern version of austrority.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
And if you actually it's all over TikTok.
Speaker 5 (12:11):
These groups of friends that are buying homes are into communities.
And I have to tell you agree, I loved every
second of it. And when I go on girls trips
with my friends, we share rooms, whereas all the guys
will go on a trip they want their own room.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
My friends, I talk about down the road, we're going
to get houses all next to each other in a
tidy little community, and we're going to spend the whole
day we when to meet it drinking and I don't know,
play mob whatever, just live our lives. Yeah, but not
the same room.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
No way that I could live in a big house
like a mansion, because these sorties are basically mansions, right,
And it was going to have I was going to
have my room and all my meals would be served,
and I'd have all my friends there, and this giant
TV room and this giant living room and this giant
kitchen and dining room, and I'd have a chef for
all three meals. I'd have someone cleaning every day. All
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I have to do is basically like make my bed.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
That's called assisted living. My in laws. If you go
down the road, that is the way that there. If
that's what you want, there's a place down the road
called the Bristol I get. Definitely.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
Maybe maybe we all live in authroorties when we're twenty,
and then we all live them and again when we're eighty.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
I don't know I what it is.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
We're gonna do. I talk about it all.
Speaker 5 (13:23):
I talked about any other thing we used to do,
because when I was in college, it was the height of.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
Beverly Hills nine o two one zero and Melrose Place and.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
We would squish on whatever the night is that was
the best, and we would all watch it.
Speaker 5 (13:35):
We have our yogurt park, and it was like the
guys knew not to call and it was like such
a fun thing to do.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
General Hospital, like during the day you were like one
days of our lives.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
Yeah, the amount of gummy bears, gummy worms.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
Sour patch kids.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
When it was Burrito Bar, everybody lost their minds. They
were so stoked. They were like, it's Burrito Bar and
it basically is just like imagine Chipotle in.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Your right.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
Gourmet Chipotle course, and you're just like, what I mean.
I did not appreciate it nearly enough. And we had breakfast.
A lot of sorties don't have breakfast anymore, but we
had like breakfast right and I couldn't. It ended at
nine and I was so tired. I couldn't make it
down in time.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
So I was always like there was.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Always stuff there. There was always like cinnamon buns. We
had like a warmer where you could always grab like
if you were if it was too late, like cinnamon buns,
or there was like underneath there was always like granola
or whatever. There was always stuff waiting, all brand cereal.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
I remember. I remember we at least I'm older than Amy.
Amy was in the same year as my sister. But
my group of friends, we would do so many pranks to.
Speaker 5 (14:44):
Each other, so like we would short sheet the beds,
or we would pour water. What they would like to
do to me is they went around to every hair
brush in the sorority. And I got in bed one
night and the hair was all over my beautiful white sheet.
I literally and then I used to I was really
into these hunter green cowboy half boots like I was
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known for it. I wore them and I got dressed
the next morning no thinking, and I put my foot
in it and it was like a puff of hair.
I mean it was like constant jokes to each other.
Speaker 8 (15:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
See, we didn't do any of that. I remember just
learning how to put popcorn kernels in a brown lunch
sack and pop it in the microwave and then you
got popcorn and you just put some salt on that
and you'd have a bag of popcorn.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
For those shows, someone was always on some kind of
a weird diet. I remember there was always weird stuff
like that going on everybody.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
We need to do a whole episode about the weird
diet because.
Speaker 5 (15:40):
People were throwing up in our bathrooms a lot. And
I always had the same lunch, which was and they
would tease me.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
I come in.
Speaker 5 (15:47):
I put broccoli, kidney beans, jon mustard, and bald on
ic vinegar like a psycho.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
So that's sad.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
There was a lot of that. Then we'd all go
to jazz or Size together. Jazz house was big then.
I don't know if you guys had that bike, but we.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
Did not do JAZZI I don't remember anyone working out
whatsoever at all.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Yeah, we do a lot of jazz Size.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
I think we did.
Speaker 5 (16:09):
People blasted like Sarah McLachlan and Metallica and Pearl Jam
And then we had a roof on the top where
people would lay out and they would like ditch class
and we would all be like frying ourselves from the rooftop.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
It was can I say something. I loved every second
of it, absolutely, and.
Speaker 5 (16:27):
We were friends with people of different Everyone was friends,
and it didn't matter if you were a senior or
a sophomore.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
I would move back in to day if you've got
all those people that I live there with, you, Angie, Natalie,
like pige all our.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
Friends, Natalie or Junie.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Today it was the best. I have to say you, guys,
I did not have. Clearly I did not have as
good of experience as you because I would not go
back in today, tomorrow, next week, next year, no way.
And it was great and I loved it, but I
don't know, I mean, I don't know that I'd be
made for that.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
Now I hear about people wanting to move out and
they don't want to live their senior year. They're getting
these apartments. I'm like, what are you doing? The sorority
is the greatest invention of all time. It is the
easiest life like you literally did not have to do
anything if.
Speaker 5 (17:20):
You're a girl's girl, right, Like, I think for some
people it would be very sensory, overloads, super triggering to
be around so many girls, and girls can be tough,
so I think not everybody would subscribe to that kind
of a living situation.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
It could be overwhelming.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
It's not funny like you, guys. I don't remember like
a lot of the girls fighting though. I don't remember
fighting with anyone except I don't either. That was such
a pig. But I really don't.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
Are you friends with her still, Jennifer?
Speaker 2 (17:47):
No, I know, I haven't talked to her in years.
But we were. We were again, they were younger than
I was, right, but it was a requirement to live
in the house, so you transferred, right. So I was
living with girls that were younger. And she's a very
nice girl. I remember, like, very very smart, very studious,
very together, and I was just a hot mess. And
so but we were still. I mean, we loved each other.
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I remember that we laughed a lot, but it was
not I mean, we're not. We don't know each other now.
Speaker 5 (18:15):
It's funny like Amy, I would say, Amy, probably more
than anybody has kept in touch with many many people.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
In that chapter.
Speaker 9 (18:24):
I think that if you gave me one hour, I
could probably reach one hundred kappas.
Speaker 7 (18:32):
I think in one hour.
Speaker 9 (18:33):
If you gave me one hour and I'd have to
do anything else but just get a text trail going,
I think I could get a hundred.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
That should be an episode. We should actually watch that.
How we should set the timer for one hour and
see what happens.
Speaker 9 (18:46):
I'm probably of fifty in my phone right now. I
just really thrived in that environment. I just you know,
I think, I mean, look, it wasn't all unicorns and rainbows.
There's little things that like some boy makes you cry,
or you know, somebody gets mad that you kiss their
ex boyfriend or whatever that can happen.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
In every chapter.
Speaker 5 (19:08):
I think what I've taught my kids too is like
for not every chapter is the best chapter, right, and
life is long. Like I would say, for me, high
school was my peaking moment. For sure, college was good,
but I would say high school for me is kind
of like your experience, Amy.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
I mean I liked college.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Yeah, I feel like what you're describing, Amy. I got
at like Sleepowoy Camp. That was my home away from homegrowning.
Speaker 9 (19:31):
Yeah, everybody has their thing. Well, Jen, I know you
have a lot of people to talk to, but I
think we definitely need to like do part one, two, three,
and four because I feel like people are fascinated by
the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Yeah, I agree, and we're gonna have to take an
hour and just see how many of your sisters.
Speaker 9 (19:49):
Oh, well, i'd be I want to throw a party,
so this can be a challenge where I can invite
one hundred kappas to a party and see if I.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Come to it so far hour and then we'll do it.
We'll do a podcast live live.
Speaker 10 (20:02):
I love that idea.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
It was so funny.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
You guys, well, thank you for sharing. I appreciate you both.
Speaker 5 (20:10):
And Jen, you want to live in our sorority with
us in a few years were really fun.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Nope, I am unlike you guys. I am not interested
in going back to a sorority house. I had a blast,
I loved it. I just know I can't share a room.
I could barely share room with my f and husband,
So no, there'll be none of that.
Speaker 5 (20:25):
By the way, one last note, can you imagine a
soarty house today with like the bow to the modern
swarty house, like the bow Ties and the manicurist at
the house and people with the I mean, it would
be a whole different thing.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
I can't because my daughter graduated two years ago, and
so it was very different than what I had experienced.
Having said that, it was definitely her best year of college.
Speaker 5 (20:47):
Amy, I have one memory now because when I talk
to them, but this is so now, I'm remembering, Oh
my god, this is horrible.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
So I was living one year with I was living
with Susan. I was living with Don and Tracy.
Speaker 9 (21:02):
Okay, so that would be like a four girl Gaily
got it, or but like one.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
Of the better rooms, okay.
Speaker 5 (21:08):
And all of a sudden, I was like, I think
I had the first yeast infection I'd ever had, and
I did not.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Know what it was, and I literally thought I was dying.
Speaker 5 (21:19):
When I tell you the laughter with them with me
and them calling my mom and laughing they had to
take me to urgent care, and the jokes about my
east infection.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
Oh, Nikki, are you making bread right now?
Speaker 5 (21:31):
Do you want some bread for dinner? That's my one
thing I remember that where they did that, that was crazy.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
Yeah, I mean, everybody's there to help.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
Everybody's there to help.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
Love you guys. Bye, okay, you guys. So now joining us,
we have Emma, Candice and Caitlin, and these ladies all
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live in the same house and one of them, Emma,
is the house manager. So, you guys, our listeners are
dying to hear about the experience that you're having. Maybe
we could start with you, Emma, what is it like
to be a house manager? Is it a ball? It
feels to me like it would be a mixed bag. Sometimes,
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you know, really fun. These are your friends. Sometimes maybe
harder because you are also there to enforce the rules.
Tell us a little bit about that.
Speaker 11 (22:34):
Yeah, it's definitely a hectic job. I feel like we've
kind of got a lot going on. It's a big house.
At the end of the day, the girls are all
my good friends, and I'm lucky enough to live in
a house where we actually like each other, so there's
not too much drama. But we are also college students,
so there's a lot of alcohol and boys sneaking in
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and people maybe not following the rules. So like, yes,
it's great in terms of like cattiness that doesn't quite
exist in our own house, but there is a lot
of Hey, maybe don't puke on our carpets and that
kind of stuff.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Why well, Emma, why did you decide that you wanted
to be the house manager.
Speaker 11 (23:17):
Honestly, our house was kind of ugly, and I knew
that I could maybe work to renovate some of it.
So actually this past year I got a budget of
about sixty five thousand dollars and we renovated our entire
downstairs get out. Yes, so that primarily just because it
was ugly and I wanted it to look better. But
in the meantime, I've kind of come to enjoy the
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actual like management role.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Really, Okay, that's so cool. So okay, what kinde of
house manager is Emma handis?
Speaker 8 (23:51):
I would say that she is very good at her job.
I would also say that she and I kind of
co manage a lot of things, and we are definitely
the most vocal voices in our group. Me just because
when we do have a renovated house and things are
so nice, you do have to remind people of certain rules.
Speaker 12 (24:11):
And in our chapter, we have some issues.
Speaker 8 (24:15):
We've had people throw up in the sinks, We've had
people throw up on carpets and couches, We've had people
have their friends sleep in the fire escape and there
was this whole room or going around that we had
like some sort of squatter. So we have had a
lot of things happen that we're definitely against the rules.
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But I would say that Emma's really good at her job.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
What is the most fun thing having the keys?
Speaker 11 (24:43):
Yeah, so I have like a big, huge thing of keys.
It has keys to every single door in the house,
the basement, the attic, all the things. I feel like
it's most fun because whenever she goes down, like I'm
the first to know, just because me or like our president,
because people you will usually text me like, hey, I
don't know if you noticed, but there's yack in the drains,
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or I don't know if you knew, but there's someone
smoking meth on our porch.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Okay, I don't know what's going on with ladies, with
your sorority. I'm getting a little concerned. I don't know
if I should talk to you. Emma's the house manager.
Is there a mother? There is there somebody. I guess
we have a house mother. You do yes so much
with the meth ladies.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
It wasn't us.
Speaker 10 (25:26):
It was a homeless person.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
I'm very glad to hear that. Caitlin. What do you
love about living in the house.
Speaker 13 (25:35):
I love that there's never a dull moment, As you've
already started to hear, there's always math, lots going on
exactly exactly. You really never know what you're gonna find
when you walk outside of our sorority house or walk inside.
I also like that we have sixty five closets at
all times, and there's so many people you can go
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and talk to for different things, and it's been so
much fun.
Speaker 10 (25:59):
But I'm all so excited to get out and not
have to deal with the chaos.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
So how is it? How is your How is your
house formated? Like for me when I lived in my house,
it was they were just two to a room period.
Do you guys have what's your situation? We? Do you
have singles? Do you have triples?
Speaker 13 (26:16):
We have singles. We have a ten girl room. Actually
Candice and I have two out of the three singles.
The third one belongs to the president. But we have
rooms that have ten girls in them. Eight What is
that called the porch?
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Okay? So yeah, I was just I we didn't have
that in my house. Do the girls like living there.
Speaker 13 (26:38):
So actually a lot of times the girls end up
living there because they have the least amount of house
points and they're not really choosing to live there, And
a lot of times they're not even really friends with
the other people who are picked in that pick to
be in that room with them. But our year, actually
the girls who got chosen to be in that room
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are sophomore freshmen, are sophomore fall semester. Actually opted to
be in there again their spring semester, even though there
were so many empty rooms, just because of how much
I loved it and how much they became such a
tight knit friend group.
Speaker 10 (27:13):
So people really good.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
I love that. That's very cool. So all right, so
tell me, I'm gonna say, Candice, Okay, tell me for you.
What is the best and worst thing about living in
the house.
Speaker 8 (27:25):
I would say best part, I agree with Caitlin, getting
to be close to everyone. Everyone is borrowing closed for
a game day or to go out, and it's very
like a great sense of community. I would say the
worst thing is a lot of people. Obviously it's a
very shared space and a lot of people don't have
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I don't want to say, like the decency to be
respectful to others, but there's a lot of people who
that might not be the first thing at the top
of their head, and so there's obviously messes throw up
in the same thing we mentioned earlier, but also in
the spring when the house was at half capacity because
a lot of girls go abroad, people would pick up
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secondary rooms. So during house picks, you could say you
were in a double and like live with another girl,
but you could also put your name on a room,
and people were using those rooms as like sex rooms,
and so each room had like a secondary room that
if they wanted to, their roommate could go there.
Speaker 10 (28:30):
And Caitlyn can tell more about the story.
Speaker 8 (28:32):
But we also had an issue with like a downstairs
bathroom breaking just because people were using that for different purposes.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
I mean, you guys, I am coming back as either Emma,
Candice or Caitlin and living in that house because it
sounds like way more fun than I had at the
University of Texas in nineteen eighty nine. So math sex,
you had your own sex room, all right, So anyway,
but Caitlyn, okay, so Kenda said you could tell us
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a little bit more about that.
Speaker 10 (29:08):
Yeah, in addition to having sex rooms.
Speaker 13 (29:10):
People also are president, not this current term, but past
presidents have used their rooms to sell drugs. Out of
what is happening, I don't really know, And it's really
surprising because you would think we live in a fraternity
like with these kinds of stories, But the girls who
do these things are actually like very there are friends,
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so it's not like it's some crazy, like one off
in our sorority. It's just people know they can get
away with things. They get caught up in college in general,
and they know that our house mom doesn't care that
much and is not that great at her job, so
they get away with a lot.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Because you're just already known as like sort of the party.
Speaker 13 (29:52):
Girls, a kind of, but not particularly more than any
other house. We're definitely not known as the drug house
compared to other sororities, although as I've said, we do
see drugs.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
Yeah, Emma, this might be a little hard for you
to manage.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
No, I mean I.
Speaker 11 (30:11):
Feel like, I mean, okay, the meth was a separate
situation that was like a homeless dude who was like
sitting on our porch and he was sitting crisscross apple
sauce with this like Fedora on and he's sitting there
with like tinfoil actively doing meth and he's like, I'm
gonna shower you guys. I want to wash you guys.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
Crazy shit. So, like there's stuff like that, but I
don't know.
Speaker 11 (30:33):
I feel like drinking is probably the main thing that
I see, just because people are off like in the house,
yacking everywhere and stuff like that. But I haven't had
to sit anyone down and talk about their drug problem
yet yet.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Wait, Candice tell us about something called the letter.
Speaker 8 (30:50):
So I was just recalling when we had our on
housed visitor. He actually left us a letter and and
some of like included people's names in the letter. So
what Emma's saying about him saying I want to shower
you or whatever he was saying. He actually left us
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a little bit of a gift that Emma actually kept
to herself, did not share with anyone, and she let
her roommate find it and then the roommate sent it
into the group me. But it was like this letter, Emma,
do you want to share more?
Speaker 11 (31:25):
Yeah, So after this whole incident, I called the police. Meanwhile,
I'm like fully blacked out. It's like three in the morning,
I've come home from a night out and I have
to call the cops and be like hey, and of
course the cop like leaves and takes the guy with them,
and she's like, have fun, but not too much fun
because clearly I'm drunk.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
Anyway.
Speaker 11 (31:41):
So the next day I come back and there's a
letter at the front door and anything that's addressed to
our sorority. I open it up. And so I opened
it up and it's this written out letter girls' names
in our house.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
Is like I need like ten.
Speaker 11 (31:53):
Million dollars to get to Puerto Rico. Like just gibberish,
all this gibberish, but I knew we're in a house
of dramatic twenty year old girls. Like I was like,
someone's gonna freak out. I'm just gonna keep this to myself.
I put in a plastic bag. I was like, if
he ever comes back, it's evidence, like whatever. My roommate
found it and didn't consult me, took a photo of
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it and send it to a group chat, and all
of a sudden, everyone knows that I'm like shit, and
it had been like months since I had Like I
detext story one and be like hey, like it's Okay,
it was months ago, like he's not coming back.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
Don't worry.
Speaker 11 (32:23):
But then like ay had their thing, So.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
All right, Okay, let's just for a moment move off
of the meth smoking, crazy homeless lunatic. Tell me a
little bit about like what's fun that I don't know,
Like for us at night, and we had some women
on just now that were talking about the olden days,
like the days I come from, but like sitting around
at night and we had like common areas and just
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you know, everybody was obsessed or like for me, we
love soap operas. I don't even know if you know
what that is at this point, but like during the
day we'd all like be together watching or Beverly Hills
nine or two one Oho or whatever it was. Do
you guys have that Do you have like where we're
going to just like congregate and is it do you
have that feel to it?
Speaker 3 (33:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 11 (33:04):
We actually have a TV room and people watch. I
think it was the summer I turned pretty there was
a whole watch party every week. I think on Wednesday nights,
everyone would go sit and watch what was it Dancing.
Speaker 10 (33:16):
With the Stars.
Speaker 11 (33:18):
People will sit there and sometimes it's a random show
playing and people will just join. I've had so many
conversations where I'm just like, I walk by after dinner
and I'm like, oh, I really love that movie and
I'll just sit and it's the most random people that
I normally wouldn't though, right, And yeah, I wouldn't normally
like sit and spend hours with them on end, usually
the girls. But it's really nice to get to know people.
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And then after I'm like, oh, now, like when I
see you in the halls, I know you like so much.
And then Candice, you were talking about something on porch.
Speaker 8 (33:47):
Yes, we also have this outdoor porch area that leads
into our backyard, and we have a lot of people
in our house that like to play guitar and are
really good at singing, so everyone love that. Yes, everyone
will go outside, and our house carries sound very well,
so you can hear people outside singing and playing instruments
and it's so cool. It's so fun, and we definitely
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have great sisterhood within the house despite all of the craziness.
But I feel like the craziness is part of having
a great house culture and having great sisterhood.
Speaker 10 (34:17):
So you got to give to get a little listen.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
I am so excited for you guys that you are
having this great experience. I'm also a little worried for
the three of you, but I'm going to leave that
to your very capable mothers. But listen, I want you
to enjoy every minute, but I should be careful. Please
we will well, no more okay, no more mess smoking
homeless people on the porch. All right, guys. So next
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we have Emily joining us. Hi, Emily, Hi, Jennifer, how
are you Hi. I'm doing very well. This is a
very very fun episode for me. We are talking about
living in your sorority house. I lived about ten million
years ago, and we've had some ladies here telling us
some wild stories. But tell me a little bit about
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your experience.
Speaker 14 (35:21):
I went to a very big university and Greek life
was kind of like relatively big.
Speaker 10 (35:29):
I mean definitely can't compare anything to like the South
or the Midwest. But we had a lot of houses
on the road.
Speaker 14 (35:35):
It was like one straight shot of all sorority houses,
and we basically like every house mom besides ours was.
Speaker 10 (35:44):
Like, I don't know, sixty five years old, and.
Speaker 14 (35:48):
Our house mom was a ripe twenty five years old,
So she was basically like another member exactly, and she
like not only act that like it, but like let
us act our like to our full potential. And it
was like so much so that there was in this
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I heard from other girls like there was like kind
of like a a thing to get her kicked off
because she was too chill and too fun and.
Speaker 10 (36:16):
Like would let us do really?
Speaker 14 (36:18):
I mean nothing like insane, but like other house moms
wouldn't like girls like even like guys weren't even allowed
to the front door, you know, and our house mom
like didn't care who you was in the house at
any time, right, But yeah, she was amazing.
Speaker 10 (36:33):
I still think about her all the day all the time.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
Well what year did you live in the house?
Speaker 14 (36:37):
I lived in sophomore year, the year that like most
people live in at my school.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
Okay, And like how many girls were there?
Speaker 14 (36:44):
I think they're probably like, oh god, like maybe like
fifty or sixty. I think I could be like that's
kind of like a high number. But we had a
huge house.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
Was it a nice house? Like? Was it was it comfortable?
Speaker 10 (36:56):
Was it?
Speaker 14 (36:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (36:58):
Terms of what were there, like what was set up
with their singles? Doubles, triples.
Speaker 14 (37:02):
How that was like literally everything It kind of just
felt like like it was like a It was like
kind of like an insane asylum, like you would walk in. No,
it was amazing, it was beautiful, but it was just
like there were like no rules kind of so like
we like you'd walk in this beautiful courtyard, like the
actual house is like in a gorgeous area and a
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very beautiful house, and then the rooms were like you
could have anything from like a single to like I
had a like a quad and my mom used to
call it like the house in the air because Mike
I would like wake up and my head would like
bang against the ceiling because that's like how crazy the
bunk bed situation was.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
Would you change that? Looking back, like, I know that
that's probably you probably dreaded it. But then some people
come out of that and they're like that was the
best situation I could have had.
Speaker 10 (37:53):
Yeah, I feel like.
Speaker 14 (37:54):
In the moment, even in the moment, I knew it
was one of those things where I was like, hey,
like this is the most uncomfortable I've ever been, but
all so like the happiest, Like I love that. Yeah,
I mean, like I would like come home drunk and
like nearly crack my head open trying to like climb
up my bed.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
But did you fight? Did fight with the girls in
your room?
Speaker 14 (38:14):
No?
Speaker 10 (38:14):
There was never ever fighting.
Speaker 14 (38:16):
That's something that I feel like a lot of people
that weren't in Greek life would always ask me like, oh,
have you fought with the girls?
Speaker 10 (38:23):
Are you catty? Like what's kind of like the vibe?
And yeah, I was always like, oh my gosh, like.
Speaker 14 (38:29):
Never, I feel like there's I mean, there's you put
like sea girls in a house. There's it's like impossible
to not have like zero like any drama.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
But no, I was telling these guests before that with me,
I had a double and my roommate just hated me
because I was such a slot because yeah, and she
couldn't and I understand looking back now why she right.
Speaker 10 (38:48):
But I mean I think you were just all pigs.
I think it was just like like honestly, to be completely.
Speaker 14 (38:55):
Honest, like I feel like I see things all the
time of like oh, these like clean girl houses and
they have their chefs, and like we had that, but
we were just like a bunch of like twenty year
olds just like I.
Speaker 10 (39:06):
Don't even know, like who could be more to yes, exactly,
you would. You would have fit right in, Like you
would wake up on like I don't even know, like
a Saturday or a Sunday after.
Speaker 2 (39:15):
A night out, those sheets on the bed.
Speaker 10 (39:18):
Yeah, someone puked in the hallway, you know what I mean.
Speaker 14 (39:22):
Like it was one of those things where it was like,
oh my god, someone like definitely mixed gatorade.
Speaker 3 (39:26):
Oh my god.
Speaker 14 (39:27):
We had this like like fountain drink machine and we
called it the mixy machine, and it was always like you.
Speaker 10 (39:34):
Knew someone cuked, like what machine they had used?
Speaker 1 (39:38):
It was really.
Speaker 10 (39:40):
Yeah, there was like yeah, you can still you can
still smell some of it.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
Thank you, miss Emily. All Right, guys, so next we're
going to talk to Mary. Mary as a very interesting
viewpoint on living in the house because she lived in
her house during COVID.
Speaker 12 (39:56):
Hi Mary, Hi Jen, Thanks for having me on, Thank you.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
For joining us. Tell us what it was like, and
I honestly, I mean, my daughter couldn't even start school
because she was an incoming freshman and they shut it down.
So I'm I'm trying to picture they even even allowing
you to live in a house together during COVID.
Speaker 12 (40:16):
Yeah, I think it was kind of the plan.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
When the school year started, you know, we collected all
the points, got assigned the room before.
Speaker 12 (40:24):
COVID, and then it hit.
Speaker 1 (40:26):
I went to a school in Colorado, and essentially we
were all allowed to come back. And then as soon
as we were back and moved in, then we got
the rules in place where there was a city mandate lockdown,
then there was a state mandate lockdown, and then there
was a school lockdown, and then there was a sorority
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lockdown where fifty percent of the girls in my sorority
got COVID and we had a an anex house that
is where.
Speaker 12 (40:57):
You're like banished to yeah, and you couldn't leave.
Speaker 1 (41:02):
There was a balcony and I wasn't a part of
that group, but it was just like a sick house
where everyone was just living on top of each other
for two weeks and you couldn't go back into the
main house to get any of your items.
Speaker 12 (41:18):
People would have to bring them to the door.
Speaker 2 (41:21):
That's horrible.
Speaker 1 (41:23):
So then there was a period of time where my
sorority gave everyone in the house the option was to
either lock down in the house because then we had
to shut down, not only the annex, but the main house,
or you had to leave for two weeks, but you weren't.
If you lived out of state, you weren't allowed to
fly home, and so you had to find another option.
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So a couple of me and my girlfriends drove to
Arizona and stayed at her house in Arizona for two
weeks because her parents weren't there.
Speaker 2 (41:54):
Well, you have anything good to say about your experience
your house.
Speaker 1 (41:59):
That is how I became close with twenty five girls,
and they it definitely some people kind of got lost
in the mix, but I could not be closer to
the girls I'm with, and it's because we lived on
top of each other.
Speaker 2 (42:16):
Yeah, that is so are you still you still are
like that?
Speaker 1 (42:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 12 (42:20):
Our group chat is still up and at them it was.
Speaker 1 (42:24):
It was definitely a hard period of time because it
was sixty five girls living on top of each other,
right like, and it was no other year was like
that in the past, Like everyone would go to class,
or you would maybe have lunch together, maybe have dinner together.
But we had every single meal together in that house.
Speaker 2 (42:45):
And were you guys? You have online classes time, so.
Speaker 1 (42:49):
No one wanted to take their classes in their rooms
because you spent too much time in your room. So
we had long dining tables which you could never get
a seat at. And then we have a basement which
you could also barely get a seat at. Because it
was sixty five girls.
Speaker 2 (43:06):
And what was Tell me like one thing about it
that you remember that was actually really fun.
Speaker 12 (43:11):
We did movie nights, movie nights, We had game nights.
Speaker 1 (43:15):
We played this game called One Night Ultimate werewolf light
candles ordering food.
Speaker 12 (43:22):
There was a ton of memories.
Speaker 1 (43:24):
We would sneak alcohol in pre game, really hard pre game.
Speaker 2 (43:30):
Where was the game game?
Speaker 1 (43:32):
Oh, there was.
Speaker 12 (43:33):
Periods of time where we were allowed to leave the house.
It was rare, you know, in between all the lockdowns.
Speaker 1 (43:40):
But when we were allowed to leave the house, then
we would go party at the frat houses and then
get in trouble and then you know, get locked down.
I would definitely say that everyone lost their marbles. And
then it was nice because we sealed that year in
a really pretty pink bow with a trip to Cabo
and everything was kind of lifted. So it was it
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was a tough year mentally for everyone, but it ended
up creating really long lasting friendships.
Speaker 2 (44:09):
Would you change it, like if you could if you
could go back and live in the house not during COVID, Like,
would you switch your experience?
Speaker 1 (44:17):
You think, No, I wouldn't switch my experience, but I
would not live in the house again. It was it
was really tough, I think, just because we were all
living on top of each other and just it being
that period of time that it was.
Speaker 12 (44:34):
Yeah, it was just it was just challenging to live
with so many girls all at once.
Speaker 2 (44:39):
So Mary, it was challenging to live in my house
with a husband and two kids. So I can only
imagine what it was like to live with that many girls.
It's just it had to be rough. Yeah, but it
sounds like it was sort of worth it. I mean,
you have these relationships now that that have endured.
Speaker 12 (44:55):
Yeah, it was. It was for sure worth it.
Speaker 1 (44:57):
I think it was just a It's also just like
a hard period of time to become a woman, because
everyone wants to grow their education, grow their status, become independent,
and so everyone's kind of like it's like a battle
between everyone and then it turns out Okay.
Speaker 2 (45:15):
Do you think that happens not just during COVID but
in houses in general, I would assume.
Speaker 1 (45:20):
So I remember talking with my little before she moved
into the house, and I told her blatantly that it
was just it was difficult for me, but it was
the best challenge I put myself through.
Speaker 2 (45:33):
Interesting. Yeah, that's so great. Well, I mean, I'm so
happy you look back on it and look back on
it in a positive way. I'm sure there are I
would think there would be some of your sisters that
maybe don't look back in it with such fond memories.
But I'm glad that you have all of these people now,
these lifelong friends that you you know, what you got
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you went through the battle with.
Speaker 1 (45:56):
Yeah, of course we have some of our We have
some great story worries that happened, like one of them
being that a bat came into our house and it
was living in our house for two weeks because girls
saw it, and then no one could catch it, and
then it was rediscovered hanging in.
Speaker 12 (46:15):
Someone's room, and so then the two girls had to
get tetnis shots.
Speaker 14 (46:19):
Ah.
Speaker 12 (46:22):
Gross, absolutely disgusting.
Speaker 2 (46:25):
Yeah that's scary. Yeah, all right, my friends. So I
love talking to those young ladies and older ladies about
their experiences. I mean, it was such an It was
like this little tiny nugget in my life living in
the A five house at the University of Texas, and
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I have really fond memories of it, and I have
memories that are not so fond, But I hope all
the girls feel like this. I would certainly not change
it because I mentioned my daughter tried everything to get
out of living in her sorority house at the University
of Delaware. She couldn't get out of it. It was
her best year, so to be continued. Thanks you guys
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so much for listening, and we have a really exciting
episode coming next, so stay tuned.
Welcome to Dirty Rush, The Truth about Sorority Life, with
your hosts me Gia, Judice.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Daisy Kent, and Jennifer Fessler. Hi, guys, it is Jen
Fessler here with another episode of Dirty Rush, and today
we are going to answer the question that we are
constantly asked, what is it like to live in a
sorority house? And to help us with that, we are
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bringing in two of our producers, Heather and Amy and
our friend Nicki.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Hi, guys, Hi, Hi, Hi, Hi Jen.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
I agree with you. That is the number one question
people ask them of what is it like living in
a sorority?
Speaker 2 (00:42):
That is our number one question? Is absolutely true, So
let's answer the question as best as we can. You, guys, Amy,
I mean, tell me some of your thoughts here.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
So I think we had NICKI and I were in
the sorority together. So I think we probably had one
hundred people living in How many people live in your house?
You know, not that many one time.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Not as many. So it was you know, like I'm
sure like you guys, it was divided up. So I
lived in my house my junior year, but I that
was when so I had pledged lates. I had transferred
to University of Texas. So I was living with girls
that were younger than me, and I would say there
was probably fifty of us living in the house.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
So and NICKI can attest to this. One of the
like things that people really noticed about our story was
that it was mostly two girl rooms because.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
A lotled porch.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
Right, but a lot of people are turned off by
that pledge porch, don't you think, Nikki?
Speaker 3 (01:38):
It was? It was awful.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
I don't even know what is a pledge porch? Wait,
you guys, what's a pledge porch? I don't remember.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
It's like eight beds or Piey's was worse. Pie Fy's
was like one day room. We had what six.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
Or six people, and you get you get sort of
like your own little alcove, and then you get a closet.
But the thing people don't like about other stories is
that you keep your stuff in one room and then
like thirty girls sleep in what is like a I
don't even know. We didn't have them, so I don't.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Know if it's called such a bunk at camp.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
Yes, and it's all beds. I think it's always ever.
Speaker 5 (02:11):
Handmaid's Tale, Did you guys watch Handmaid's Tail? It was
literally look like Handmaid's Tale. That's just that's the vision
right there.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
You know a lot of stories have it where you
sleep in this room and it's all beds, bunk beds,
and you're sleeping in bunk beds and it's dark. I
think they keep it kind of cold in there, so
it's only for sleeping, no desks.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
You guys had never heard of this. Did other houses
have that on your campus?
Speaker 5 (02:37):
Yes, PIPI had like twenty of them, twenty beds in
one room.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
And I think people also sort of sometimes like, look,
this is a you know, a lucky thing to be
able to say, but there were people that would go
down to two top houses and they would pick the
one that they didn't have to sleep in that.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Are you sure?
Speaker 5 (02:57):
I don't remember even touring the play what we were
not in the same sorority, because I don't remember that
at all.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
No, we didn't have it. People didn't do PIPEI because
of yeah, we.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Didn't tour rooms, Amy jury.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
You do, Yes, you do. We showed off our two
girlrooms because it was a real way to get people
into our sorority.
Speaker 5 (03:17):
Right, let me tell you, it was a real way
not to have gotten me in that sorority.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Okay, I've never recovered.
Speaker 5 (03:23):
The communal showers with everybody's hair is like I've never
recovered from It's my biggest OCD triggering thing is the hair.
Speaker 6 (03:34):
Sorry non sorority girl jumping in here for a question
about bathrooms.
Speaker 7 (03:39):
I gotta know.
Speaker 6 (03:40):
First of all, we're talking about all the girls sleeping
in one bedroom. I have other questions about that bathroom.
Who's on shower duty? How many toilets are in this house?
Speaker 4 (03:52):
There's multiple bathrooms, but you'd have like six or seven
toilets just lined up like a public bathroom toilet.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
No, you have doors? You had it's doors, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
We also we had a housekeeper, so do we Yeah, we.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
Had many, So you don't. Nobody's cleaning the showers. Nobody's
cleaning the toilets. That's living in the house. But our
showers had individual stalls. Like sometimes I think people picture
it like a locker room or something where you're just
like making next for somebody.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
And the shower curtains.
Speaker 6 (04:20):
Can I just say that I wasn't picturing it like
a locker room. I was picturing it like a house
with like one toilet per bathroom.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
No, but it was our mind was it was like
a house. I mean, we didn't have any there was nobody.
There was fifteen girls congregating in one room in bunk beds.
We each got a room and they were doubles. And
it was actually very nice. I mean I compare it
to like my freshman year when I was in a dorm,
and this was way nicer, more homey. It was a
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really pretty house. The food was really good. Yeah yeah,
I mean, and I remember, and there was just a
lot of you know, communal areas and the study room.
It was nice. I didn't. I enjoyed it well.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
With your bathroom situation.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Same thing, same thing, like stall stall stall, but nothing
that was like.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
Now, what's interesting is we sort of had like glass
between the showers, so you could fuzzy glass so you
could see sort of like if Nicky was next to me,
I would know, I'd be like, hey, nick, like what's
going on. They have since changed it, Niki, and they
made it like marble and you can't see into the
next shower.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
I saw it.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
Remember we went to a game two years ago and
we went into the house and I remember a lot
of it was still the same thoay, mey. I mean
it was a lipstick on a pig. I mean that
was not a full page one remodel.
Speaker 4 (05:41):
So Nicky and I are both fifty. So this is
thirty years ago. And the dressers where you put your
clothes are the same. They have not changed the dressers,
They've not changed the backs of the beds, but they
changed the floors. Oh, the closets exactly the same. So
we had two girls the majority two girls, some four girls,
and then the pledge which I lived on the pledge
porch and I found it fine.
Speaker 7 (06:02):
I have more questions about the pledge porch.
Speaker 6 (06:04):
Okay, So first of all, we're talking about ten plus
girls all being in there. Is it lights off at
the exact same time every What if you have somebody
on the pledge porch who talks in their sleep? What
if they want to read in their bed? I mean fine,
what if they want to do other things?
Speaker 5 (06:23):
Good point, because there were no iPhones or there was
no kindles or anything.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
It was books with like a little night light on your.
Speaker 7 (06:32):
That would seem annoying.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
But I always had a TV. I always had a
TV in a DVD or VCR, whatever it was. That's
back in the you know, nineties, So I would watch
TV and I didn't have headphones.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
We didn't have any We didn't have a pledge porch.
I mean, you guys reminded me of Sleepway camp. We
didn't have any of that. But I could tell you
that my daughter in her house, she thanked God because
she almost didn't want to pledge her sorry, because she
was going to have to live in the house and
she'd heard to night stories. We tried to get her
out of it because she has Type on diabetes. Who
tried to pull that card? We couldn't, but she ended
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up getting a single. But some of the rooms, like
the triples, they were so tight. There was absolutely nowhere
to put anything. And I remember like being amazed that
these girls could even survive. I can't imagine a pledge porch.
Speaker 7 (07:19):
What if you're sick in that pledge porch?
Speaker 5 (07:22):
Your shower, Caddy, You're a little shower Caddie.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
You know what's so funny? Because Heather, I think we were.
I don't remember who I was talking to about this yesterday,
but I was preparing for this show trying to remember.
It's two things I do not remember, and I'm going
to tell you I don't remember ever getting sick, even
though I was basically living in a petri dish filled
with people. I don't remember ever like throwing up, getting
a cold, nothing, And I truly this is gross. Sorry, guys,
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this is gross. I don't remember doing anything other than
number one. Obviously I did because I lived there for
three years. But I have no men of being like
I had to poop next to somebody.
Speaker 7 (08:02):
Maybe you did it outside the house.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
Well, so that's an interesting point, Nikki. There are two
guest bathrooms in our authorty that were individual and I
do think on Gaily Nicky people went down and like
went in that.
Speaker 5 (08:15):
So the one by the little den, that one, and
then where was the where was the other down there's
third floor.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
There was one on the third floor down at the
very very end of the gaily hallway, like if you
were at the President's room and one of someone might
have had a weird bathtub. I can't quite remember.
Speaker 6 (08:33):
I'm trying to think of all things I've experienced with roommates.
Were you allowed to smoke? Were you allowed to burn?
Speaker 1 (08:41):
No?
Speaker 4 (08:42):
You probably no. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
No candles anything.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
With my boys, there's definitely no boys.
Speaker 6 (08:49):
No candles and no incense and a bunch of young
women all crammed into a space.
Speaker 7 (08:56):
How are we making itsell nice in there?
Speaker 4 (08:59):
I couldn't say.
Speaker 5 (09:00):
Not.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
In the bedrooms. We could have boys in the bedrooms.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
Yeah, we could have boys in the bedrooms till ten.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
O'clock, even in the whatever room in the in your bedroom,
yeah no, but I mean the one with the eighteen beds,
yeah yeahom yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
Nobody was doing funny business. I never experienced that. And
the other thing, Nikki is I don't remember people being
naked like people always like and you just stand around naked,
and I'm.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Like, no, no.
Speaker 5 (09:23):
I remember getting in the shower really quickly and putting
my towel on and like jumping in and all of
that stuff.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
You know.
Speaker 5 (09:30):
What I do remember that was interesting, is like I
just think I was actually thinking that, like, how did
we all decide who were we going to be roommates with?
I think the girls were nicer back then. I think
it was just there was not mean girls at least.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
I don't remember.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
When we were like house manager and it was very easy.
People totally knew who their roommates were going to be,
and then where your room was was based on points,
so obviously the third floor was better than the second floor,
and daily was better than the main two hallways, and
so seniors had more points, so they started to get
the better room.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
I remember not my roommate not being happy with me.
We were friends, we picked each other, and I was
a dirty slob and just just horrible.
Speaker 6 (10:11):
Okay, this goes to my other question. You said nobody
was cleaning up the bathrooms. Who like, what if you
go in and your roommate has.
Speaker 7 (10:20):
Her clothes everywhere or what happens?
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Then you fight? I mean, for me, we fought, and
I was really embarrassed by it, and I was just
at the point in my life where I just couldn't
get it together. I just was a slob.
Speaker 7 (10:35):
Does the house person do your laundry too?
Speaker 4 (10:38):
No? No, no, you have to do.
Speaker 6 (10:40):
I mean, you're the website that you didn't have to
clean the bathrooms.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
I'm done.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
One time Nicky wasn't there. But one time that there
was like a weekend and only a few of us
were there. Everybody went home for some reason and the
furnace exploded and we all thought we were It was
so gnarly, like I remember being like I think like
something really like we're all going to die. But it
was just the furnace. I never had a messy roommate.
I don't think I was messy. Nikki, did you did
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you have someone messy?
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Well?
Speaker 5 (11:07):
I think there was only one or two washer dryers,
And I actually remember having to sit down there.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
With quarters, right, I think we had quarters.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
They didn't let us use it for free. We did quarters.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
Yeah, And also we had Alsa units. Do you guys
know what that is?
Speaker 5 (11:26):
That was very big Elsa They still have Elpa's at
Container store.
Speaker 8 (11:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
So they were like in your closet, you'd hang some
of your clothes and then you would have these like
Elsa units, which were like drawers, but they were like
wire and you'd literally get like lines in your underwear.
But whatever, you didn't care. And then we had a dresser.
I mean it was tight, but I don't remember it
being like a problem.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
I loved living in the sorority.
Speaker 5 (11:50):
And now that I'm you know, obviously divorced and you know,
almost fifty four and spend so much time with my
friends who are also divorced or getting divorced, we all
talk about living together again number one day and having
like a modern version of austrority.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
And if you actually it's all over TikTok.
Speaker 5 (12:11):
These groups of friends that are buying homes are into communities.
And I have to tell you agree, I loved every
second of it. And when I go on girls trips
with my friends, we share rooms, whereas all the guys
will go on a trip they want their own room.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
My friends, I talk about down the road, we're going
to get houses all next to each other in a
tidy little community, and we're going to spend the whole
day we when to meet it drinking and I don't know,
play mob whatever, just live our lives. Yeah, but not
the same room.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
No way that I could live in a big house
like a mansion, because these sorties are basically mansions, right,
And it was going to have I was going to
have my room and all my meals would be served,
and I'd have all my friends there, and this giant
TV room and this giant living room and this giant
kitchen and dining room, and I'd have a chef for
all three meals. I'd have someone cleaning every day. All
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I have to do is basically like make my bed.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
That's called assisted living. My in laws. If you go
down the road, that is the way that there. If
that's what you want, there's a place down the road
called the Bristol I get. Definitely.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
Maybe maybe we all live in authroorties when we're twenty,
and then we all live them and again when we're eighty.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
I don't know I what it is.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
We're gonna do. I talk about it all.
Speaker 5 (13:23):
I talked about any other thing we used to do,
because when I was in college, it was the height of.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
Beverly Hills nine o two one zero and Melrose Place and.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
We would squish on whatever the night is that was
the best, and we would all watch it.
Speaker 5 (13:35):
We have our yogurt park, and it was like the
guys knew not to call and it was like such
a fun thing to do.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
General Hospital, like during the day you were like one
days of our lives.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
Yeah, the amount of gummy bears, gummy worms.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
Sour patch kids.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
When it was Burrito Bar, everybody lost their minds. They
were so stoked. They were like, it's Burrito Bar and
it basically is just like imagine Chipotle in.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Your right.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
Gourmet Chipotle course, and you're just like, what I mean.
I did not appreciate it nearly enough. And we had breakfast.
A lot of sorties don't have breakfast anymore, but we
had like breakfast right and I couldn't. It ended at
nine and I was so tired. I couldn't make it
down in time.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
So I was always like there was.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Always stuff there. There was always like cinnamon buns. We
had like a warmer where you could always grab like
if you were if it was too late, like cinnamon buns,
or there was like underneath there was always like granola
or whatever. There was always stuff waiting, all brand cereal.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
I remember. I remember we at least I'm older than Amy.
Amy was in the same year as my sister. But
my group of friends, we would do so many pranks to.
Speaker 5 (14:44):
Each other, so like we would short sheet the beds,
or we would pour water. What they would like to
do to me is they went around to every hair
brush in the sorority. And I got in bed one
night and the hair was all over my beautiful white sheet.
I literally and then I used to I was really
into these hunter green cowboy half boots like I was
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known for it. I wore them and I got dressed
the next morning no thinking, and I put my foot
in it and it was like a puff of hair.
I mean it was like constant jokes to each other.
Speaker 8 (15:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
See, we didn't do any of that. I remember just
learning how to put popcorn kernels in a brown lunch
sack and pop it in the microwave and then you
got popcorn and you just put some salt on that
and you'd have a bag of popcorn.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
For those shows, someone was always on some kind of
a weird diet. I remember there was always weird stuff
like that going on everybody.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
We need to do a whole episode about the weird
diet because.
Speaker 5 (15:40):
People were throwing up in our bathrooms a lot. And
I always had the same lunch, which was and they
would tease me.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
I come in.
Speaker 5 (15:47):
I put broccoli, kidney beans, jon mustard, and bald on
ic vinegar like a psycho.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
So that's sad.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
There was a lot of that. Then we'd all go
to jazz or Size together. Jazz house was big then.
I don't know if you guys had that bike, but we.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
Did not do JAZZI I don't remember anyone working out
whatsoever at all.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Yeah, we do a lot of jazz Size.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
I think we did.
Speaker 5 (16:09):
People blasted like Sarah McLachlan and Metallica and Pearl Jam
And then we had a roof on the top where
people would lay out and they would like ditch class
and we would all be like frying ourselves from the rooftop.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
It was can I say something. I loved every second
of it, absolutely, and.
Speaker 5 (16:27):
We were friends with people of different Everyone was friends,
and it didn't matter if you were a senior or
a sophomore.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
I would move back in to day if you've got
all those people that I live there with, you, Angie, Natalie,
like pige all our.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
Friends, Natalie or Junie.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Today it was the best. I have to say you, guys,
I did not have. Clearly I did not have as
good of experience as you because I would not go
back in today, tomorrow, next week, next year, no way.
And it was great and I loved it, but I
don't know, I mean, I don't know that I'd be
made for that.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
Now I hear about people wanting to move out and
they don't want to live their senior year. They're getting
these apartments. I'm like, what are you doing? The sorority
is the greatest invention of all time. It is the
easiest life like you literally did not have to do
anything if.
Speaker 5 (17:20):
You're a girl's girl, right, Like, I think for some
people it would be very sensory, overloads, super triggering to
be around so many girls, and girls can be tough,
so I think not everybody would subscribe to that kind
of a living situation.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
It could be overwhelming.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
It's not funny like you, guys. I don't remember like
a lot of the girls fighting though. I don't remember
fighting with anyone except I don't either. That was such
a pig. But I really don't.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
Are you friends with her still, Jennifer?
Speaker 2 (17:47):
No, I know, I haven't talked to her in years.
But we were. We were again, they were younger than
I was, right, but it was a requirement to live
in the house, so you transferred, right. So I was
living with girls that were younger. And she's a very
nice girl. I remember, like, very very smart, very studious,
very together, and I was just a hot mess. And
so but we were still. I mean, we loved each other.
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I remember that we laughed a lot, but it was
not I mean, we're not. We don't know each other now.
Speaker 5 (18:15):
It's funny like Amy, I would say, Amy, probably more
than anybody has kept in touch with many many people.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
In that chapter.
Speaker 9 (18:24):
I think that if you gave me one hour, I
could probably reach one hundred kappas.
Speaker 7 (18:32):
I think in one hour.
Speaker 9 (18:33):
If you gave me one hour and I'd have to
do anything else but just get a text trail going,
I think I could get a hundred.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
That should be an episode. We should actually watch that.
How we should set the timer for one hour and
see what happens.
Speaker 9 (18:46):
I'm probably of fifty in my phone right now. I
just really thrived in that environment. I just you know,
I think, I mean, look, it wasn't all unicorns and rainbows.
There's little things that like some boy makes you cry,
or you know, somebody gets mad that you kiss their
ex boyfriend or whatever that can happen.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
In every chapter.
Speaker 5 (19:08):
I think what I've taught my kids too is like
for not every chapter is the best chapter, right, and
life is long. Like I would say, for me, high
school was my peaking moment. For sure, college was good,
but I would say high school for me is kind
of like your experience, Amy.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
I mean I liked college.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Yeah, I feel like what you're describing, Amy. I got
at like Sleepowoy Camp. That was my home away from homegrowning.
Speaker 9 (19:31):
Yeah, everybody has their thing. Well, Jen, I know you
have a lot of people to talk to, but I
think we definitely need to like do part one, two, three,
and four because I feel like people are fascinated by
the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Yeah, I agree, and we're gonna have to take an
hour and just see how many of your sisters.
Speaker 9 (19:49):
Oh, well, i'd be I want to throw a party,
so this can be a challenge where I can invite
one hundred kappas to a party and see if I.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Come to it so far hour and then we'll do it.
We'll do a podcast live live.
Speaker 10 (20:02):
I love that idea.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
It was so funny.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
You guys, well, thank you for sharing. I appreciate you both.
Speaker 5 (20:10):
And Jen, you want to live in our sorority with
us in a few years were really fun.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Nope, I am unlike you guys. I am not interested
in going back to a sorority house. I had a blast,
I loved it. I just know I can't share a room.
I could barely share room with my f and husband,
So no, there'll be none of that.
Speaker 5 (20:25):
By the way, one last note, can you imagine a
soarty house today with like the bow to the modern
swarty house, like the bow Ties and the manicurist at
the house and people with the I mean, it would
be a whole different thing.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
I can't because my daughter graduated two years ago, and
so it was very different than what I had experienced.
Having said that, it was definitely her best year of college.
Speaker 5 (20:47):
Amy, I have one memory now because when I talk
to them, but this is so now, I'm remembering, Oh
my god, this is horrible.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
So I was living one year with I was living
with Susan. I was living with Don and Tracy.
Speaker 9 (21:02):
Okay, so that would be like a four girl Gaily
got it, or but like one.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
Of the better rooms, okay.
Speaker 5 (21:08):
And all of a sudden, I was like, I think
I had the first yeast infection I'd ever had, and
I did not.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Know what it was, and I literally thought I was dying.
Speaker 5 (21:19):
When I tell you the laughter with them with me
and them calling my mom and laughing they had to
take me to urgent care, and the jokes about my
east infection.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
Oh, Nikki, are you making bread right now?
Speaker 5 (21:31):
Do you want some bread for dinner? That's my one
thing I remember that where they did that, that was crazy.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
Yeah, I mean, everybody's there to help.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
Everybody's there to help.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
Love you guys. Bye, okay, you guys. So now joining us,
we have Emma, Candice and Caitlin, and these ladies all
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live in the same house and one of them, Emma,
is the house manager. So, you guys, our listeners are
dying to hear about the experience that you're having. Maybe
we could start with you, Emma, what is it like
to be a house manager? Is it a ball? It
feels to me like it would be a mixed bag. Sometimes,
(22:26):
you know, really fun. These are your friends. Sometimes maybe
harder because you are also there to enforce the rules.
Tell us a little bit about that.
Speaker 11 (22:34):
Yeah, it's definitely a hectic job. I feel like we've
kind of got a lot going on. It's a big house.
At the end of the day, the girls are all
my good friends, and I'm lucky enough to live in
a house where we actually like each other, so there's
not too much drama. But we are also college students,
so there's a lot of alcohol and boys sneaking in
(22:55):
and people maybe not following the rules. So like, yes,
it's great in terms of like cattiness that doesn't quite
exist in our own house, but there is a lot
of Hey, maybe don't puke on our carpets and that
kind of stuff.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Why well, Emma, why did you decide that you wanted
to be the house manager.
Speaker 11 (23:17):
Honestly, our house was kind of ugly, and I knew
that I could maybe work to renovate some of it.
So actually this past year I got a budget of
about sixty five thousand dollars and we renovated our entire
downstairs get out. Yes, so that primarily just because it
was ugly and I wanted it to look better. But
in the meantime, I've kind of come to enjoy the
(23:39):
actual like management role.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Really, Okay, that's so cool. So okay, what kinde of
house manager is Emma handis?
Speaker 8 (23:51):
I would say that she is very good at her job.
I would also say that she and I kind of
co manage a lot of things, and we are definitely
the most vocal voices in our group. Me just because
when we do have a renovated house and things are
so nice, you do have to remind people of certain rules.
Speaker 12 (24:11):
And in our chapter, we have some issues.
Speaker 8 (24:15):
We've had people throw up in the sinks, We've had
people throw up on carpets and couches, We've had people
have their friends sleep in the fire escape and there
was this whole room or going around that we had
like some sort of squatter. So we have had a
lot of things happen that we're definitely against the rules.
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But I would say that Emma's really good at her job.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
What is the most fun thing having the keys?
Speaker 11 (24:43):
Yeah, so I have like a big, huge thing of keys.
It has keys to every single door in the house,
the basement, the attic, all the things. I feel like
it's most fun because whenever she goes down, like I'm
the first to know, just because me or like our president,
because people you will usually text me like, hey, I
don't know if you noticed, but there's yack in the drains,
(25:03):
or I don't know if you knew, but there's someone
smoking meth on our porch.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Okay, I don't know what's going on with ladies, with
your sorority. I'm getting a little concerned. I don't know
if I should talk to you. Emma's the house manager.
Is there a mother? There is there somebody. I guess
we have a house mother. You do yes so much
with the meth ladies.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
It wasn't us.
Speaker 10 (25:26):
It was a homeless person.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
I'm very glad to hear that. Caitlin. What do you
love about living in the house.
Speaker 13 (25:35):
I love that there's never a dull moment, As you've
already started to hear, there's always math, lots going on
exactly exactly. You really never know what you're gonna find
when you walk outside of our sorority house or walk inside.
I also like that we have sixty five closets at
all times, and there's so many people you can go
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and talk to for different things, and it's been so
much fun.
Speaker 10 (25:59):
But I'm all so excited to get out and not
have to deal with the chaos.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
So how is it? How is your How is your
house formated? Like for me when I lived in my house,
it was they were just two to a room period.
Do you guys have what's your situation? We? Do you
have singles? Do you have triples?
Speaker 13 (26:16):
We have singles. We have a ten girl room. Actually
Candice and I have two out of the three singles.
The third one belongs to the president. But we have
rooms that have ten girls in them. Eight What is
that called the porch?
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Okay? So yeah, I was just I we didn't have
that in my house. Do the girls like living there.
Speaker 13 (26:38):
So actually a lot of times the girls end up
living there because they have the least amount of house
points and they're not really choosing to live there, And
a lot of times they're not even really friends with
the other people who are picked in that pick to
be in that room with them. But our year, actually
the girls who got chosen to be in that room
(26:58):
are sophomore freshmen, are sophomore fall semester. Actually opted to
be in there again their spring semester, even though there
were so many empty rooms, just because of how much
I loved it and how much they became such a
tight knit friend group.
Speaker 10 (27:13):
So people really good.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
I love that. That's very cool. So all right, so
tell me, I'm gonna say, Candice, Okay, tell me for you.
What is the best and worst thing about living in
the house.
Speaker 8 (27:25):
I would say best part, I agree with Caitlin, getting
to be close to everyone. Everyone is borrowing closed for
a game day or to go out, and it's very
like a great sense of community. I would say the
worst thing is a lot of people. Obviously it's a
very shared space and a lot of people don't have
(27:47):
I don't want to say, like the decency to be
respectful to others, but there's a lot of people who
that might not be the first thing at the top
of their head, and so there's obviously messes throw up
in the same thing we mentioned earlier, but also in
the spring when the house was at half capacity because
a lot of girls go abroad, people would pick up
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secondary rooms. So during house picks, you could say you
were in a double and like live with another girl,
but you could also put your name on a room,
and people were using those rooms as like sex rooms,
and so each room had like a secondary room that
if they wanted to, their roommate could go there.
Speaker 10 (28:30):
And Caitlyn can tell more about the story.
Speaker 8 (28:32):
But we also had an issue with like a downstairs
bathroom breaking just because people were using that for different purposes.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
I mean, you guys, I am coming back as either Emma,
Candice or Caitlin and living in that house because it
sounds like way more fun than I had at the
University of Texas in nineteen eighty nine. So math sex,
you had your own sex room, all right, So anyway,
but Caitlyn, okay, so Kenda said you could tell us
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a little bit more about that.
Speaker 10 (29:08):
Yeah, in addition to having sex rooms.
Speaker 13 (29:10):
People also are president, not this current term, but past
presidents have used their rooms to sell drugs. Out of
what is happening, I don't really know, And it's really
surprising because you would think we live in a fraternity
like with these kinds of stories, But the girls who
do these things are actually like very there are friends,
(29:31):
so it's not like it's some crazy, like one off
in our sorority. It's just people know they can get
away with things. They get caught up in college in general,
and they know that our house mom doesn't care that
much and is not that great at her job, so
they get away with a lot.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Because you're just already known as like sort of the party.
Speaker 13 (29:52):
Girls, a kind of, but not particularly more than any
other house. We're definitely not known as the drug house
compared to other sororities, although as I've said, we do
see drugs.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
Yeah, Emma, this might be a little hard for you
to manage.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
No, I mean I.
Speaker 11 (30:11):
Feel like, I mean, okay, the meth was a separate
situation that was like a homeless dude who was like
sitting on our porch and he was sitting crisscross apple
sauce with this like Fedora on and he's sitting there
with like tinfoil actively doing meth and he's like, I'm
gonna shower you guys. I want to wash you guys.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
Crazy shit. So, like there's stuff like that, but I
don't know.
Speaker 11 (30:33):
I feel like drinking is probably the main thing that
I see, just because people are off like in the house,
yacking everywhere and stuff like that. But I haven't had
to sit anyone down and talk about their drug problem
yet yet.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Wait, Candice tell us about something called the letter.
Speaker 8 (30:50):
So I was just recalling when we had our on
housed visitor. He actually left us a letter and and
some of like included people's names in the letter. So
what Emma's saying about him saying I want to shower
you or whatever he was saying. He actually left us
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a little bit of a gift that Emma actually kept
to herself, did not share with anyone, and she let
her roommate find it and then the roommate sent it
into the group me. But it was like this letter, Emma,
do you want to share more?
Speaker 11 (31:25):
Yeah, So after this whole incident, I called the police. Meanwhile,
I'm like fully blacked out. It's like three in the morning,
I've come home from a night out and I have
to call the cops and be like hey, and of
course the cop like leaves and takes the guy with them,
and she's like, have fun, but not too much fun
because clearly I'm drunk.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
Anyway.
Speaker 11 (31:41):
So the next day I come back and there's a
letter at the front door and anything that's addressed to
our sorority. I open it up. And so I opened
it up and it's this written out letter girls' names
in our house.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
Is like I need like ten.
Speaker 11 (31:53):
Million dollars to get to Puerto Rico. Like just gibberish,
all this gibberish, but I knew we're in a house
of dramatic twenty year old girls. Like I was like,
someone's gonna freak out. I'm just gonna keep this to myself.
I put in a plastic bag. I was like, if
he ever comes back, it's evidence, like whatever. My roommate
found it and didn't consult me, took a photo of
(32:13):
it and send it to a group chat, and all
of a sudden, everyone knows that I'm like shit, and
it had been like months since I had Like I
detext story one and be like hey, like it's Okay,
it was months ago, like he's not coming back.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
Don't worry.
Speaker 11 (32:23):
But then like ay had their thing, So.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
All right, Okay, let's just for a moment move off
of the meth smoking, crazy homeless lunatic. Tell me a
little bit about like what's fun that I don't know,
Like for us at night, and we had some women
on just now that were talking about the olden days,
like the days I come from, but like sitting around
at night and we had like common areas and just
(32:47):
you know, everybody was obsessed or like for me, we
love soap operas. I don't even know if you know
what that is at this point, but like during the
day we'd all like be together watching or Beverly Hills
nine or two one Oho or whatever it was. Do
you guys have that Do you have like where we're
going to just like congregate and is it do you
have that feel to it?
Speaker 3 (33:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 11 (33:04):
We actually have a TV room and people watch. I
think it was the summer I turned pretty there was
a whole watch party every week. I think on Wednesday nights,
everyone would go sit and watch what was it Dancing.
Speaker 10 (33:16):
With the Stars.
Speaker 11 (33:18):
People will sit there and sometimes it's a random show
playing and people will just join. I've had so many
conversations where I'm just like, I walk by after dinner
and I'm like, oh, I really love that movie and
I'll just sit and it's the most random people that
I normally wouldn't though, right, And yeah, I wouldn't normally
like sit and spend hours with them on end, usually
the girls. But it's really nice to get to know people.
(33:39):
And then after I'm like, oh, now, like when I
see you in the halls, I know you like so much.
And then Candice, you were talking about something on porch.
Speaker 8 (33:47):
Yes, we also have this outdoor porch area that leads
into our backyard, and we have a lot of people
in our house that like to play guitar and are
really good at singing, so everyone love that. Yes, everyone
will go outside, and our house carries sound very well,
so you can hear people outside singing and playing instruments
and it's so cool. It's so fun, and we definitely
(34:08):
have great sisterhood within the house despite all of the craziness.
But I feel like the craziness is part of having
a great house culture and having great sisterhood.
Speaker 10 (34:17):
So you got to give to get a little listen.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
I am so excited for you guys that you are
having this great experience. I'm also a little worried for
the three of you, but I'm going to leave that
to your very capable mothers. But listen, I want you
to enjoy every minute, but I should be careful. Please
we will well, no more okay, no more mess smoking
homeless people on the porch. All right, guys. So next
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we have Emily joining us. Hi, Emily, Hi, Jennifer, how
are you Hi. I'm doing very well. This is a
very very fun episode for me. We are talking about
living in your sorority house. I lived about ten million
years ago, and we've had some ladies here telling us
some wild stories. But tell me a little bit about
(35:20):
your experience.
Speaker 14 (35:21):
I went to a very big university and Greek life
was kind of like relatively big.
Speaker 10 (35:29):
I mean definitely can't compare anything to like the South
or the Midwest. But we had a lot of houses
on the road.
Speaker 14 (35:35):
It was like one straight shot of all sorority houses,
and we basically like every house mom besides ours was.
Speaker 10 (35:44):
Like, I don't know, sixty five years old, and.
Speaker 14 (35:48):
Our house mom was a ripe twenty five years old,
So she was basically like another member exactly, and she
like not only act that like it, but like let
us act our like to our full potential. And it
was like so much so that there was in this
(36:08):
I heard from other girls like there was like kind
of like a a thing to get her kicked off
because she was too chill and too fun and.
Speaker 10 (36:16):
Like would let us do really?
Speaker 14 (36:18):
I mean nothing like insane, but like other house moms
wouldn't like girls like even like guys weren't even allowed
to the front door, you know, and our house mom
like didn't care who you was in the house at
any time, right, But yeah, she was amazing.
Speaker 10 (36:33):
I still think about her all the day all the time.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
Well what year did you live in the house?
Speaker 14 (36:37):
I lived in sophomore year, the year that like most
people live in at my school.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
Okay, And like how many girls were there?
Speaker 14 (36:44):
I think they're probably like, oh god, like maybe like
fifty or sixty. I think I could be like that's
kind of like a high number. But we had a
huge house.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
Was it a nice house? Like? Was it was it comfortable?
Speaker 10 (36:56):
Was it?
Speaker 14 (36:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (36:58):
Terms of what were there, like what was set up
with their singles? Doubles, triples.
Speaker 14 (37:02):
How that was like literally everything It kind of just
felt like like it was like a It was like
kind of like an insane asylum, like you would walk in. No,
it was amazing, it was beautiful, but it was just
like there were like no rules kind of so like
we like you'd walk in this beautiful courtyard, like the
actual house is like in a gorgeous area and a
(37:25):
very beautiful house, and then the rooms were like you
could have anything from like a single to like I
had a like a quad and my mom used to
call it like the house in the air because Mike
I would like wake up and my head would like
bang against the ceiling because that's like how crazy the
bunk bed situation was.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
Would you change that? Looking back, like, I know that
that's probably you probably dreaded it. But then some people
come out of that and they're like that was the
best situation I could have had.
Speaker 10 (37:53):
Yeah, I feel like.
Speaker 14 (37:54):
In the moment, even in the moment, I knew it
was one of those things where I was like, hey,
like this is the most uncomfortable I've ever been, but
all so like the happiest, Like I love that. Yeah,
I mean, like I would like come home drunk and
like nearly crack my head open trying to like climb
up my bed.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
But did you fight? Did fight with the girls in
your room?
Speaker 14 (38:14):
No?
Speaker 10 (38:14):
There was never ever fighting.
Speaker 14 (38:16):
That's something that I feel like a lot of people
that weren't in Greek life would always ask me like, oh,
have you fought with the girls?
Speaker 10 (38:23):
Are you catty? Like what's kind of like the vibe?
And yeah, I was always like, oh my gosh, like.
Speaker 14 (38:29):
Never, I feel like there's I mean, there's you put
like sea girls in a house. There's it's like impossible
to not have like zero like any drama.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
But no, I was telling these guests before that with me,
I had a double and my roommate just hated me
because I was such a slot because yeah, and she
couldn't and I understand looking back now why she right.
Speaker 10 (38:48):
But I mean I think you were just all pigs.
I think it was just like like honestly, to be completely.
Speaker 14 (38:55):
Honest, like I feel like I see things all the
time of like oh, these like clean girl houses and
they have their chefs, and like we had that, but
we were just like a bunch of like twenty year
olds just like I.
Speaker 10 (39:06):
Don't even know, like who could be more to yes, exactly,
you would. You would have fit right in, Like you
would wake up on like I don't even know, like
a Saturday or a Sunday after.
Speaker 2 (39:15):
A night out, those sheets on the bed.
Speaker 10 (39:18):
Yeah, someone puked in the hallway, you know what I mean.
Speaker 14 (39:22):
Like it was one of those things where it was like,
oh my god, someone like definitely mixed gatorade.
Speaker 3 (39:26):
Oh my god.
Speaker 14 (39:27):
We had this like like fountain drink machine and we
called it the mixy machine, and it was always like you.
Speaker 10 (39:34):
Knew someone cuked, like what machine they had used?
Speaker 1 (39:38):
It was really.
Speaker 10 (39:40):
Yeah, there was like yeah, you can still you can
still smell some of it.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
Thank you, miss Emily. All Right, guys, so next we're
going to talk to Mary. Mary as a very interesting
viewpoint on living in the house because she lived in
her house during COVID.
Speaker 12 (39:56):
Hi Mary, Hi Jen, Thanks for having me on, Thank you.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
For joining us. Tell us what it was like, and
I honestly, I mean, my daughter couldn't even start school
because she was an incoming freshman and they shut it down.
So I'm I'm trying to picture they even even allowing
you to live in a house together during COVID.
Speaker 12 (40:16):
Yeah, I think it was kind of the plan.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
When the school year started, you know, we collected all
the points, got assigned the room before.
Speaker 12 (40:24):
COVID, and then it hit.
Speaker 1 (40:26):
I went to a school in Colorado, and essentially we
were all allowed to come back. And then as soon
as we were back and moved in, then we got
the rules in place where there was a city mandate lockdown,
then there was a state mandate lockdown, and then there
was a school lockdown, and then there was a sorority
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lockdown where fifty percent of the girls in my sorority
got COVID and we had a an anex house that
is where.
Speaker 12 (40:57):
You're like banished to yeah, and you couldn't leave.
Speaker 1 (41:02):
There was a balcony and I wasn't a part of
that group, but it was just like a sick house
where everyone was just living on top of each other
for two weeks and you couldn't go back into the
main house to get any of your items.
Speaker 12 (41:18):
People would have to bring them to the door.
Speaker 2 (41:21):
That's horrible.
Speaker 1 (41:23):
So then there was a period of time where my
sorority gave everyone in the house the option was to
either lock down in the house because then we had
to shut down, not only the annex, but the main house,
or you had to leave for two weeks, but you weren't.
If you lived out of state, you weren't allowed to
fly home, and so you had to find another option.
(41:45):
So a couple of me and my girlfriends drove to
Arizona and stayed at her house in Arizona for two
weeks because her parents weren't there.
Speaker 2 (41:54):
Well, you have anything good to say about your experience
your house.
Speaker 1 (41:59):
That is how I became close with twenty five girls,
and they it definitely some people kind of got lost
in the mix, but I could not be closer to
the girls I'm with, and it's because we lived on
top of each other.
Speaker 2 (42:16):
Yeah, that is so are you still you still are
like that?
Speaker 1 (42:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 12 (42:20):
Our group chat is still up and at them it was.
Speaker 1 (42:24):
It was definitely a hard period of time because it
was sixty five girls living on top of each other,
right like, and it was no other year was like
that in the past, Like everyone would go to class,
or you would maybe have lunch together, maybe have dinner together.
But we had every single meal together in that house.
Speaker 2 (42:45):
And were you guys? You have online classes time, so.
Speaker 1 (42:49):
No one wanted to take their classes in their rooms
because you spent too much time in your room. So
we had long dining tables which you could never get
a seat at. And then we have a basement which
you could also barely get a seat at. Because it
was sixty five girls.
Speaker 2 (43:06):
And what was Tell me like one thing about it
that you remember that was actually really fun.
Speaker 12 (43:11):
We did movie nights, movie nights, We had game nights.
Speaker 1 (43:15):
We played this game called One Night Ultimate werewolf light
candles ordering food.
Speaker 12 (43:22):
There was a ton of memories.
Speaker 1 (43:24):
We would sneak alcohol in pre game, really hard pre game.
Speaker 2 (43:30):
Where was the game game?
Speaker 1 (43:32):
Oh, there was.
Speaker 12 (43:33):
Periods of time where we were allowed to leave the house.
It was rare, you know, in between all the lockdowns.
Speaker 1 (43:40):
But when we were allowed to leave the house, then
we would go party at the frat houses and then
get in trouble and then you know, get locked down.
I would definitely say that everyone lost their marbles. And
then it was nice because we sealed that year in
a really pretty pink bow with a trip to Cabo
and everything was kind of lifted. So it was it
(44:02):
was a tough year mentally for everyone, but it ended
up creating really long lasting friendships.
Speaker 2 (44:09):
Would you change it, like if you could if you
could go back and live in the house not during COVID, Like,
would you switch your experience?
Speaker 1 (44:17):
You think, No, I wouldn't switch my experience, but I
would not live in the house again. It was it
was really tough, I think, just because we were all
living on top of each other and just it being
that period of time that it was.
Speaker 12 (44:34):
Yeah, it was just it was just challenging to live
with so many girls all at once.
Speaker 2 (44:39):
So Mary, it was challenging to live in my house
with a husband and two kids. So I can only
imagine what it was like to live with that many girls.
It's just it had to be rough. Yeah, but it
sounds like it was sort of worth it. I mean,
you have these relationships now that that have endured.
Speaker 12 (44:55):
Yeah, it was. It was for sure worth it.
Speaker 1 (44:57):
I think it was just a It's also just like
a hard period of time to become a woman, because
everyone wants to grow their education, grow their status, become independent,
and so everyone's kind of like it's like a battle
between everyone and then it turns out Okay.
Speaker 2 (45:15):
Do you think that happens not just during COVID but
in houses in general, I would assume.
Speaker 1 (45:20):
So I remember talking with my little before she moved
into the house, and I told her blatantly that it
was just it was difficult for me, but it was
the best challenge I put myself through.
Speaker 2 (45:33):
Interesting. Yeah, that's so great. Well, I mean, I'm so
happy you look back on it and look back on
it in a positive way. I'm sure there are I
would think there would be some of your sisters that
maybe don't look back in it with such fond memories.
But I'm glad that you have all of these people now,
these lifelong friends that you you know, what you got
(45:54):
you went through the battle with.
Speaker 1 (45:56):
Yeah, of course we have some of our We have
some great story worries that happened, like one of them
being that a bat came into our house and it
was living in our house for two weeks because girls
saw it, and then no one could catch it, and
then it was rediscovered hanging in.
Speaker 12 (46:15):
Someone's room, and so then the two girls had to
get tetnis shots.
Speaker 14 (46:19):
Ah.
Speaker 12 (46:22):
Gross, absolutely disgusting.
Speaker 2 (46:25):
Yeah that's scary. Yeah, all right, my friends. So I
love talking to those young ladies and older ladies about
their experiences. I mean, it was such an It was
like this little tiny nugget in my life living in
the A five house at the University of Texas, and
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I have really fond memories of it, and I have
memories that are not so fond, But I hope all
the girls feel like this. I would certainly not change
it because I mentioned my daughter tried everything to get
out of living in her sorority house at the University
of Delaware. She couldn't get out of it. It was
her best year, so to be continued. Thanks you guys
(47:13):
so much for listening, and we have a really exciting
episode coming next, so stay tuned.
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If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
Ding dong! Join your culture consultants, Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang, on an unforgettable journey into the beating heart of CULTURE. Alongside sizzling special guests, they GET INTO the hottest pop-culture moments of the day and the formative cultural experiences that turned them into Culturistas. Produced by the Big Money Players Network and iHeartRadio.
Crime Junkie
Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.