August 3, 2021 • 18 mins
2009 NFL Offensive Player of the Year Chris Johnson joins Aqib Talib this week. The All-Pro RB discusses what it was like running a 4.2 at the combine (7:30), his 2,000-yd season in Tennessee and the one thing that he remembers most about that season (12:20), and the way NFL RB’s are not being valued in the NFL today (15:00).
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my dog offenses. What you were playing to year? Pro
Bowl Pro Chris Johnson, what's up, my boy? What's our chilling?
That's cooling, man, you're good? Yeah, everything good, man, Just
chilling down in this hot weather. It's one of it's
(00:48):
one of four something like that in Dallas right now.
It's crazy out here right now. Yeah, heat, man, it's ugly.
It's ugly out here right now. But you got going
old man. What's up her retirement my man? Just chilling, man.
I'm going on year three retirement man. And you know
in it any time, like trying trying to transition, man,
(01:08):
Like going from you know, being in the league and
you know being on the schedule like your whole life, man,
since we're patting in the league to high school hillegue
and pros. Just being on the schedule and then like
just finishing, like trying to get into something transition and something.
So now you know, I've been real focused on I
(01:29):
just opened up a coffee shop, Um, just ya, just
a little coffee down in Orlando. So I've been really
really focusing on that man, and just you know, just
trying to get over the box and stuff like that
man and get it running smoothly. Yeah, you already know
it's It's that's when I always say, that's what our
ship really start. We had that money pouring in. Then
(01:51):
we get to a point where we gotta make that
money move that it ain't coming in on more. So
you know you gotta you gotta get to it. Yeah,
it ain't coming in. You go were tiring and then
you see it keep going out. You're like, man, yeah,
I gotta get into something, man. And you know, even
me like getting into business. You know, I thought it
was gonna be easy, like ship. I thought I was
(02:12):
gonna be able to open up a shop, sit back
and let it just stat Now man, like you have
to my money into it. You be like, damn, you
gotta work. You gott got you out the hole, man,
And you know it just hustle like and you know
a lot of times you can't take that same mindset
and some of the same um lessons that that we
(02:35):
learned with playing football and put it towards that business.
You know what I'm saying, doing some of the same
things far as grinding, like having to jump over hurdles
like that. You know what I'm saying. So adversity everything
all that ship gonna come up in that business. Man.
You already know. Yeah, all there has been a many
time like I said, Man, I'm ready to quit this quick.
(02:55):
You know. We built for it, man, we did't quitting that. Man,
We're gonna keep it going out to God to so
you you from my Lando right how you? How you?
How you get to East Carolina? Man, it was crazy,
bro like me coming up like you know, I ain't
know too much about the camps none of that. Man.
I played ran track, you know what I'm saying. Just
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focused on that, focused on that and stuff like that.
And um my senior, yea, I broke my leg. I
broke my leg. So I missed like the first seven games.
I ended up playing like the last four games of
the season. Still rest for a thousand yards in the
last four games the season. But um mc grades ain't
my grades. One other part I probably had like, man,
(03:40):
when my senior started, Bro, I probably had like a
two point two, bro, two point three. So me trying
to pass through them A C T to S A T. Man,
it was crazy. So I'm like, man, I gotta go
a different route. So I had to go to night school. Bro.
I had to go to so the whole time playing ball,
and even after then, even when track see the star,
(04:00):
I had to go to school during the day, go
to practice, then come back and go to night school,
you know, put him a G P A up or whatever.
Then I end up passing the s A T or whatever.
But man, that's happened. That was my only way I
had them. And I had Connecticut Connecticut one come and
play corner and ECUs and let me play running back.
So there was my only two D one. I had
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to had to go touch the rock though. Yeah, I
had to go touch the rock. Man. If I would
if I can go back, if I was smarter, I
would have made that transition. No, Bro, Bro, you a legend. FAM.
I understand that I've never taken none of that back.
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But the reason why I Bro, But listen, y'all, Bro, y'all,
you're you're teen Levin twelve, y'all still making ten ten
fifteen million dollars a year. Yeah, yeah, you know what
I'm saying. After we get past year eight, they wanted
to give us lead minimum. I feel that. I feel that,
But on the financial c J two K, baby, I'm
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saying running back version of you know what I'm saying, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah yeah, it wouldn't even be c J two K.
You want to run it back? Feel right, but that
I won't tell you that. If I can't redo it,
I'll tell you where route I would have went. I
feel that, I feel that. So your last year uh
at East Carolina. I've seen you on TV one time
(05:27):
like we're going returned. I've seen it on the kickoff return,
but you had fourteen hunter Russian five hundred receiving and
had a thousand on kickoff return. Right, But you remember
about that last year right there? Man? It was crazy, man,
it was crazy because the year before then I had
I wanted to leave early. I wanted to come out
doing here, but I end up hurting my toe. I
(05:50):
end up her my toe and when I came back
from a toe injury, I had turf toe. So I
missed like four weeks for five weeks. But you know,
even when you come back, it's still gonna be messing
with you or whatever. So when I come back, my
coach ain't giving me my position back. Man, he ain't
let me start. So that messed me up, you know
(06:10):
what I'm saying. So I'm so mad at my coach Brown,
so mad at my coach. I'm like, man, don't leave
in any ways. So I turned my my paper in
get my draft grade back, trying to get my grade
like it came back like six seventh round. Like, man,
I know I'm gonna running folk to I at least
go fourth, fourth round, you know what I'm saying. So
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he called in and all his talking to him whatever
he could in long story short, he convinced me to
stay or whatever. So I'm like, man, okay, sure, ain't
got nothing to lose. I gotta six seventh round Green,
ain't got nothing to lose. So you know, man, that's
probably one of the hardest offseasons I ever. And you
know you know how some college workouts is they brewed him. Man, yeah, yeah,
(06:56):
running really one like, but I was still I was
putting in two it. They like, after we got that
work out. I come back later that night, get another
work out in. You know what I'm saying. So, but man,
that yeah, man, it was it was amazing. Bro. It
was like, man, that year felt just like my two
thousand yard season in that ship definitely was special. That
was that was my last year in football too. You
(07:17):
fit in college football, so I was tuned in. We
were watching that ship. So then you hit the combine, right,
you foe to forward. You know what I'm saying. With
the year you just put in, and well, it's poet,
that's the fastest ever. Um No, Ross came and ran
to too ro running to our so put in that
second fastest at the time. It was the fastest ever
(07:40):
at the time. Yeah, so you came, you ran the
fastest time ever at the combine. Boom. With the season
you just put in, you knew yours first round? Huh? Yeah,
I knew I was first round. I knew I was
first round, but it still was crazy. It was a
lot of It was a lot of backs in our draft,
and listen all them. Julius came out like, yeah, I
was the number one rated senior running back. But shoot,
(08:00):
you know then folk Julius come out I'm like, wow,
So that automatically put they dropped me down to the
fifth running back. What I'm saying, I'm hot. So I'm like, man,
I know these backs ain't better than me, but you
know they went to the you know, they went to
the big schools or whatever. Man, but it's still work
that all five of us still went in the first round. Shoot,
(08:22):
I feel like I had out of all of us
in that draft. Out of all y'all in that draft,
who you like? Who you like? How I go? Who
I like? Yah? How I go? If I from from
one to five? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, how I go, y'all?
I'm gonna say me of course too? Yeah Yeah, Yeah,
I had I had the best freakie season, and I
(08:44):
feel like I had the best career. But if I
if I could put them, I would say be one.
I say jumping Stewart was too um three. Always liked him.
In fact, I like, yeah, you gotta put him back,
you gotta put that he gotta back, yea Feti Jones? Okay, Okay,
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you finished second in the little uh in the in
the in the Rookie of the Year, Matt Ryan one
that thing. You should have won that thing though, Man,
you know that. Man, I can't keep playing on my top. Man. Hey, hey, hey,
(10:55):
I thought it was your. We thought it was yours.
You you had what you had, thousand like forts tubs.
Now I had twelve hunted in fourteen tubs tubs. Look,
Matt Rod, he he led, he led them. I don't
even know what that record was. But he hopped in
and he played good for him. I know he put
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some numbers up. Yeah yeah, Rody White, I was in.
I was in the same division as them, So yeah,
I know he did his thing too, man, But I
ain't gonna you know how that quarter bad thing, bro,
It's crazy that you even say that, you know how
the quarterback thing is. But they brought me Rickya. They
came back and did me the same way my second
year with the MVP, with the with the with the
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with the two cat. That's when you turned the two
they man, they get the MVP to pay Man. So
that second season you had two thousands, yeah, fourteen tubs
again yeah, and you don't even remember, you don't you
don't know what paying hair huh. He went crazy though,
he went crazy, but he had had a better season
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and where he yeah yeah and and oh yeah yeah
yeah I second. Yeah see where everybody say, everybody say
two K, but people keep forgetting about I had twenty
five hundred all purpose yards. Yeah. Yeah, you had to
receive it too, always had to receive it though, you know,
you always had to receive it. What you remember about
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that year though, the c J two K, What was
that moment in that year when you was like, bro,
I'm going stupid. Bro when I got to like week ten.
I got like week ten and I had like fourteen
hundred yards. Like you know, we pay attention to stats,
but yeah, I went like to just all focused in
(12:40):
on it. And then like I still remember to this day,
like I'm sitting at the house and um, what was it?
Sports Center? Something came on and um they was talking
about it and they called me c J two K, right,
and then the yeah yeah, then they put the stat
they put the little thing up for Team Hunting. I'm like, dang,
(13:03):
it's crazy. Yeah, And you know what I'm saying, I got,
I got. I got six more weeks to get the
two thousand area for team Honey. Man, let's run it.
That's running ever since then. Man, it was it was crazy, bro,
that's it was crazy. So so you went crazy that.
You had some good years after that, a couple of
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good years after that. Then you held out boom, you
had to hold out to get the bag. Ye dude
holding out nine days? Man? What you you think what
you put on the value of running back nine days? Man?
How you think they undervalue the position? They definitely do.
That's why I said, like when I was saying earlier
in the interview, like if I go back, what I
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would have did. But it's like you gotta do so
much just to get paid as a running backman. It's
like I went for two thousand yards and I still
had the whole doctor. You know what I'm saying, I
had to hold out and I'm went for two thousand yards.
But other positions, bro, that don't have to do nearly
as much, and they getting paid, don't have to hold
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lot know nothing, Like if I can go back and
do it again, I don't think I was just like
I don't think I would have helped. I. I probably
did it differently, like I probably would have showed up,
but not practice or something like that. Because when I
did come back, I was just so out of shape.
And that's probably like my one of my first years
(14:28):
on my whole career, because I ain't really getting my
groove into about week seven, week eight. You know what
I'm saying, No, no training camp, no nothing. I had
to jumping down on the fly. Batman, he's running backs
like it's crazy for us to get our money. We
gotta do what we gotta do, and we gotta get
it because even once you get the year five six,
(14:49):
they are already they already looking for your replacement as Yeah,
as a running back, you're gonna you you got a
chance to get one big deal. You know said, I
feel like they undervalue a two man. You got guys
like Zeke Man having God Camara. You know what I'm saying, yourself,
Guys like y'all shouldn't have to hold out. You are
they different family. You know, there's got different. They upgrade
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your team, so guys like y'all should have to hold out.
So I definitely think the position undervalue like a motherucking
the league. What I'm saying, So, when you had your
two thousand, did you did you ever think that that
somebody else had hit that two thousand for Derrick here?
You did? All right? I ain't not the crazy thing
about it. I always thought somebody was because you know,
(15:34):
we still had a pr though you know he can't.
He didn't. You only got API that can't never count
a p I butter ap did. It ain't gonna lie man,
ain't think I didn't think nobody else gonna do it
because of the way that the league is now. It's
more of a passive league, you know what I'm saying.
But I always said, if somebody was gonna be able
to do it, it was gonna have to be a
(15:55):
bat that was on the running team. And it's just
their badfield. They ain't end it with nobody, know what
I'm saying. Right, He getting all the topes. Yeah, So
that's definitely that's definitely how they do it in Tennessee.
Before you get out of here, my boy, who the
top five top five backs in the league right now?
Who you're like? Top five backs? Okay? Number one Cook,
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right cook? Number two? Z now, let me I can't
do I can't do like that. Number one, ain't cook.
Number two Henry, then Zeke, then Alvin, and then number
five McCaffrey. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, see myn similar, my
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my probably the same. Probably ain't. I probably got a
different order. Number five. Let me let me hear you
did it. I just did it. I'm gonna show you.
I'm gonna show you because I got it in my
ship right now. I probably go diving Camara. Henry didn't
come out then McCaffrey. Yeah, who I had in my
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top five? Has somebody else? Bro? I can't remember. I'm
gonna it's right here somewhere too, and in this in
his nose right here. I'm kind of biased. I'm kind
of biased with the reason why I always put Cook first.
I'm kind of biased with Cook because I feel like
I feel like Cook is the closest back that I
can cook that can compare to me. I feel like
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you got the same style he do? He do? He do?
Got got that same little running style. I don't know
where I said I got somebody has Zeke and six.
I was going back and forth too, because you know,
I'm bossed with Zeke because I'm from Dallas. You know
what I'm saying. Yea, yea yeah. When I was doing it,
I'm like, I gotta put it bright in here. I
can't remember who was, I can't thank you. That's what's though.
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But we're catching phase, my boy, Chris Johnson. I appreciate you,
my boy. You got something going on. You want to
pub up the coffee shop baby whatever. You know what
I'm saying, howl at us a nice little platform, uh
podcast network. We'll breaking for you, my boy. Leave that.
Thank you, bro, you are enough
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my dog offenses. What you were playing to year? Pro
Bowl Pro Chris Johnson, what's up, my boy? What's our chilling?
That's cooling, man, you're good? Yeah, everything good, man, Just
chilling down in this hot weather. It's one of it's
(00:48):
one of four something like that in Dallas right now.
It's crazy out here right now. Yeah, heat, man, it's ugly.
It's ugly out here right now. But you got going
old man. What's up her retirement my man? Just chilling, man.
I'm going on year three retirement man. And you know
in it any time, like trying trying to transition, man,
(01:08):
Like going from you know, being in the league and
you know being on the schedule like your whole life, man,
since we're patting in the league to high school hillegue
and pros. Just being on the schedule and then like
just finishing, like trying to get into something transition and something.
So now you know, I've been real focused on I
(01:29):
just opened up a coffee shop, Um, just ya, just
a little coffee down in Orlando. So I've been really
really focusing on that man, and just you know, just
trying to get over the box and stuff like that
man and get it running smoothly. Yeah, you already know
it's It's that's when I always say, that's what our
ship really start. We had that money pouring in. Then
(01:51):
we get to a point where we gotta make that
money move that it ain't coming in on more. So
you know you gotta you gotta get to it. Yeah,
it ain't coming in. You go were tiring and then
you see it keep going out. You're like, man, yeah,
I gotta get into something, man. And you know, even
me like getting into business. You know, I thought it
was gonna be easy, like ship. I thought I was
(02:12):
gonna be able to open up a shop, sit back
and let it just stat Now man, like you have
to my money into it. You be like, damn, you
gotta work. You gott got you out the hole, man,
And you know it just hustle like and you know
a lot of times you can't take that same mindset
and some of the same um lessons that that we
(02:35):
learned with playing football and put it towards that business.
You know what I'm saying, doing some of the same
things far as grinding, like having to jump over hurdles
like that. You know what I'm saying. So adversity everything
all that ship gonna come up in that business. Man.
You already know. Yeah, all there has been a many
time like I said, Man, I'm ready to quit this quick.
(02:55):
You know. We built for it, man, we did't quitting that. Man,
We're gonna keep it going out to God to so
you you from my Lando right how you? How you?
How you get to East Carolina? Man, it was crazy,
bro like me coming up like you know, I ain't
know too much about the camps none of that. Man.
I played ran track, you know what I'm saying. Just
(03:19):
focused on that, focused on that and stuff like that.
And um my senior, yea, I broke my leg. I
broke my leg. So I missed like the first seven games.
I ended up playing like the last four games of
the season. Still rest for a thousand yards in the
last four games the season. But um mc grades ain't
my grades. One other part I probably had like, man,
(03:40):
when my senior started, Bro, I probably had like a
two point two, bro, two point three. So me trying
to pass through them A C T to S A T. Man,
it was crazy. So I'm like, man, I gotta go
a different route. So I had to go to night school. Bro.
I had to go to so the whole time playing ball,
and even after then, even when track see the star,
(04:00):
I had to go to school during the day, go
to practice, then come back and go to night school,
you know, put him a G P A up or whatever.
Then I end up passing the s A T or whatever.
But man, that's happened. That was my only way I
had them. And I had Connecticut Connecticut one come and
play corner and ECUs and let me play running back.
So there was my only two D one. I had
(04:21):
to had to go touch the rock though. Yeah, I
had to go touch the rock. Man. If I would
if I can go back, if I was smarter, I
would have made that transition. No, Bro, Bro, you a legend. FAM.
I understand that I've never taken none of that back.
(04:41):
But the reason why I Bro, But listen, y'all, Bro, y'all,
you're you're teen Levin twelve, y'all still making ten ten
fifteen million dollars a year. Yeah, yeah, you know what
I'm saying. After we get past year eight, they wanted
to give us lead minimum. I feel that. I feel that,
But on the financial c J two K, baby, I'm
(05:05):
saying running back version of you know what I'm saying, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah yeah, it wouldn't even be c J two K.
You want to run it back? Feel right, but that
I won't tell you that. If I can't redo it,
I'll tell you where route I would have went. I
feel that, I feel that. So your last year uh
at East Carolina. I've seen you on TV one time
(05:27):
like we're going returned. I've seen it on the kickoff return,
but you had fourteen hunter Russian five hundred receiving and
had a thousand on kickoff return. Right, But you remember
about that last year right there? Man? It was crazy, man,
it was crazy because the year before then I had
I wanted to leave early. I wanted to come out
doing here, but I end up hurting my toe. I
(05:50):
end up her my toe and when I came back
from a toe injury, I had turf toe. So I
missed like four weeks for five weeks. But you know,
even when you come back, it's still gonna be messing
with you or whatever. So when I come back, my
coach ain't giving me my position back. Man, he ain't
let me start. So that messed me up, you know
(06:10):
what I'm saying. So I'm so mad at my coach Brown,
so mad at my coach. I'm like, man, don't leave
in any ways. So I turned my my paper in
get my draft grade back, trying to get my grade
like it came back like six seventh round. Like, man,
I know I'm gonna running folk to I at least
go fourth, fourth round, you know what I'm saying. So
(06:31):
he called in and all his talking to him whatever
he could in long story short, he convinced me to
stay or whatever. So I'm like, man, okay, sure, ain't
got nothing to lose. I gotta six seventh round Green,
ain't got nothing to lose. So you know, man, that's
probably one of the hardest offseasons I ever. And you
know you know how some college workouts is they brewed him. Man, yeah, yeah,
(06:56):
running really one like, but I was still I was
putting in two it. They like, after we got that
work out. I come back later that night, get another
work out in. You know what I'm saying. So, but man,
that yeah, man, it was it was amazing. Bro. It
was like, man, that year felt just like my two
thousand yard season in that ship definitely was special. That
was that was my last year in football too. You
(07:17):
fit in college football, so I was tuned in. We
were watching that ship. So then you hit the combine, right,
you foe to forward. You know what I'm saying. With
the year you just put in, and well, it's poet,
that's the fastest ever. Um No, Ross came and ran
to too ro running to our so put in that
second fastest at the time. It was the fastest ever
(07:40):
at the time. Yeah, so you came, you ran the
fastest time ever at the combine. Boom. With the season
you just put in, you knew yours first round? Huh? Yeah,
I knew I was first round. I knew I was
first round, but it still was crazy. It was a
lot of It was a lot of backs in our draft,
and listen all them. Julius came out like, yeah, I
was the number one rated senior running back. But shoot,
(08:00):
you know then folk Julius come out I'm like, wow,
So that automatically put they dropped me down to the
fifth running back. What I'm saying, I'm hot. So I'm like, man,
I know these backs ain't better than me, but you
know they went to the you know, they went to
the big schools or whatever. Man, but it's still work
that all five of us still went in the first round. Shoot,
(08:22):
I feel like I had out of all of us
in that draft. Out of all y'all in that draft,
who you like? Who you like? How I go? Who
I like? Yah? How I go? If I from from
one to five? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, how I go, y'all?
I'm gonna say me of course too? Yeah Yeah, Yeah,
I had I had the best freakie season, and I
(08:44):
feel like I had the best career. But if I
if I could put them, I would say be one.
I say jumping Stewart was too um three. Always liked him.
In fact, I like, yeah, you gotta put him back,
you gotta put that he gotta back, yea Feti Jones? Okay, Okay,
(09:06):
that's probably my order, right dad too? Yeah? Yeah. Saying
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you finished second in the little uh in the in
the in the Rookie of the Year, Matt Ryan one
that thing. You should have won that thing though, Man,
you know that. Man, I can't keep playing on my top. Man. Hey, hey, hey,
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I thought it was your. We thought it was yours.
You you had what you had, thousand like forts tubs.
Now I had twelve hunted in fourteen tubs tubs. Look,
Matt Rod, he he led, he led them. I don't
even know what that record was. But he hopped in
and he played good for him. I know he put
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some numbers up. Yeah yeah, Rody White, I was in.
I was in the same division as them, So yeah,
I know he did his thing too, man, But I
ain't gonna you know how that quarter bad thing, bro,
It's crazy that you even say that, you know how
the quarterback thing is. But they brought me Rickya. They
came back and did me the same way my second
year with the MVP, with the with the with the
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with the two cat. That's when you turned the two
they man, they get the MVP to pay Man. So
that second season you had two thousands, yeah, fourteen tubs
again yeah, and you don't even remember, you don't you
don't know what paying hair huh. He went crazy though,
he went crazy, but he had had a better season
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and where he yeah yeah and and oh yeah yeah
yeah I second. Yeah see where everybody say, everybody say
two K, but people keep forgetting about I had twenty
five hundred all purpose yards. Yeah. Yeah, you had to
receive it too, always had to receive it though, you know,
you always had to receive it. What you remember about
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that year though, the c J two K, What was
that moment in that year when you was like, bro,
I'm going stupid. Bro when I got to like week ten.
I got like week ten and I had like fourteen
hundred yards. Like you know, we pay attention to stats,
but yeah, I went like to just all focused in
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on it. And then like I still remember to this day,
like I'm sitting at the house and um, what was it?
Sports Center? Something came on and um they was talking
about it and they called me c J two K, right,
and then the yeah yeah, then they put the stat
they put the little thing up for Team Hunting. I'm like, dang,
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it's crazy. Yeah, And you know what I'm saying, I got,
I got. I got six more weeks to get the
two thousand area for team Honey. Man, let's run it.
That's running ever since then. Man, it was it was crazy, bro,
that's it was crazy. So so you went crazy that.
You had some good years after that, a couple of
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good years after that. Then you held out boom, you
had to hold out to get the bag. Ye dude
holding out nine days? Man? What you you think what
you put on the value of running back nine days? Man?
How you think they undervalue the position? They definitely do.
That's why I said, like when I was saying earlier
in the interview, like if I go back, what I
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would have did. But it's like you gotta do so
much just to get paid as a running backman. It's
like I went for two thousand yards and I still
had the whole doctor. You know what I'm saying, I
had to hold out and I'm went for two thousand yards.
But other positions, bro, that don't have to do nearly
as much, and they getting paid, don't have to hold
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lot know nothing, Like if I can go back and
do it again, I don't think I was just like
I don't think I would have helped. I. I probably
did it differently, like I probably would have showed up,
but not practice or something like that. Because when I
did come back, I was just so out of shape.
And that's probably like my one of my first years
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on my whole career, because I ain't really getting my
groove into about week seven, week eight. You know what
I'm saying, No, no training camp, no nothing. I had
to jumping down on the fly. Batman, he's running backs
like it's crazy for us to get our money. We
gotta do what we gotta do, and we gotta get
it because even once you get the year five six,
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they are already they already looking for your replacement as Yeah,
as a running back, you're gonna you you got a
chance to get one big deal. You know said, I
feel like they undervalue a two man. You got guys
like Zeke Man having God Camara. You know what I'm saying, yourself,
Guys like y'all shouldn't have to hold out. You are
they different family. You know, there's got different. They upgrade
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your team, so guys like y'all should have to hold out.
So I definitely think the position undervalue like a motherucking
the league. What I'm saying, So, when you had your
two thousand, did you did you ever think that that
somebody else had hit that two thousand for Derrick here?
You did? All right? I ain't not the crazy thing
about it. I always thought somebody was because you know,
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we still had a pr though you know he can't.
He didn't. You only got API that can't never count
a p I butter ap did. It ain't gonna lie man,
ain't think I didn't think nobody else gonna do it
because of the way that the league is now. It's
more of a passive league, you know what I'm saying.
But I always said, if somebody was gonna be able
to do it, it was gonna have to be a
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bat that was on the running team. And it's just
their badfield. They ain't end it with nobody, know what
I'm saying. Right, He getting all the topes. Yeah, So
that's definitely that's definitely how they do it in Tennessee.
Before you get out of here, my boy, who the
top five top five backs in the league right now?
Who you're like? Top five backs? Okay? Number one Cook,
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right cook? Number two? Z now, let me I can't
do I can't do like that. Number one, ain't cook.
Number two Henry, then Zeke, then Alvin, and then number
five McCaffrey. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, see myn similar, my
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my probably the same. Probably ain't. I probably got a
different order. Number five. Let me let me hear you
did it. I just did it. I'm gonna show you.
I'm gonna show you because I got it in my
ship right now. I probably go diving Camara. Henry didn't
come out then McCaffrey. Yeah, who I had in my
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top five? Has somebody else? Bro? I can't remember. I'm
gonna it's right here somewhere too, and in this in
his nose right here. I'm kind of biased. I'm kind
of biased with the reason why I always put Cook first.
I'm kind of biased with Cook because I feel like
I feel like Cook is the closest back that I
can cook that can compare to me. I feel like
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you got the same style he do? He do? He do?
Got got that same little running style. I don't know
where I said I got somebody has Zeke and six.
I was going back and forth too, because you know,
I'm bossed with Zeke because I'm from Dallas. You know
what I'm saying. Yea, yea yeah. When I was doing it,
I'm like, I gotta put it bright in here. I
can't remember who was, I can't thank you. That's what's though.
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But we're catching phase, my boy, Chris Johnson. I appreciate you,
my boy. You got something going on. You want to
pub up the coffee shop baby whatever. You know what
I'm saying, howl at us a nice little platform, uh
podcast network. We'll breaking for you, my boy. Leave that.
Thank you, bro, you are enough
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