August 17, 2021 • 24 mins
Aqib tells his story from his rookie year about how he missed the trip to Canton to visit the Hall of Fame with the rest of his rookie class and the player that he last all respect for (0:43). Also, Antoine Bethea stops by to talk about the hardest adjustment for him now that football is over (8:43), and how the smaller colleges like Jacksonville State "might" have an advantage in the recruiting game (14:04).
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a great interview with my dog Antoine, but they coming up.
But first last week, man, we talked Hall of Fame
a little bit, and uh, I told you I was
gonna tell you all the story, man, about how I
missed my first trip to the Hall of Fame. So
when you here, here you go. So you know, I
think I might have been in the first class of
of the team taking their rookie class to the Hall
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of Fame. So you know, long story short, you know,
you pick a day. Uh I can't even remember when
it is. It might be before a training camp or
during training and campbell. Maybe I can't even really remember.
But they take the draft picks, you know, all your
undrafted free agents. Take everybody, man, You take everybody to
the Hall of Fame so gods can respect the game.
You go see the best guys of the game. It's
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the Hall. So everybody want to experience that. So you know,
they put together a nice little trip for you and
kind of give you a tour of that. I don't
know with COVID now, I don't know if they're still
doing it, but oh wait, when I was a young boy,
they definitely was doing it. So Bam. The day before
we get on this plane to go to the Hall
of Fame and can the rookie class, we had an
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alcohol awareness event. So you know, at this alcohol awareness event,
our player personnel, Guy Evans shout out events. Man, he
was one of my favorite player personnel. Guy. Uh, they
put it together. Man. We go to a restaurant, we
got a back room. They feed us first and then
they you know, they just keep us in here. They
really they tell you why, but we don't know why.
We're in there so long. They how you win there
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so long so you actually can get drunk. Right. They
want you to be drunk. They want you to feel
how it feels to you know, take a sobriety test.
You always think you're straight, but you're never straight. So
they just making it away. They wanted us to get drunk.
We got drunk. We hung out in there for like
three hours. We drunk as hell. We probably took it overboard,
you know, as we young rookies, freshly rich man we
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enjoying ourselves. Uh, free drinks, everything was free, so you know,
we probably took it a little to the next level,
know what I'm saying. But they wanted us too, so
we went through it. Man, with the sobriety tests were laughing.
We had a great time. Man. We we really saw
that when you think you could drive, you really can't drive.
You really not as good as you think you are,
I'm saying. And events like that they bring awareness to
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you know, drinking and driving and things like that. So
I think the event was great. But to have it
the day before we got to get up at six
in the morning and get on this plane, I don't
know if that was the best idea. So you know,
after the event, you know, they gave us car service
and everything. So we took advantage of the car service.
We went to the club. We probably had a couple
more drinks. I don't remember all that, remember that part
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of the story. But boom, the morning comes about ten o'clock.
Our flight, our flight probably left at let's say eight.
Wake up. Our plan. Don't get in the past sixty.
I'm saying being down. There were at the airport, Marriott,
so we at the airport. Our our hotel, it's connected
to the airport. That's what makes it so bad. I
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wake up about ten flight probably left at eight thirty nine,
with like a hundred and fifty text messages, hundred and
fifty miss calls. Now it's everybody from my mom to
my brother, to the to the GM to coach grew In, everybody,
my DV coach right hand Moore, everybody calling. They don't
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know where I'm at. They don't know if something wrong.
I can I can hear the panic in the voice.
So I woke up to the room phone where the
room phone ringing. I'm like, what the hell? After the
room phone like it's it's Mark Dominic, get your grass up.
I'm like, oh ship. So I'm looking at him like
dex Dad. That's my roommate. That's the Jackson I'm saying
from Appelation State. He was our second round pick. We
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was actually sharing the hotel. What I'm saying, until you
get out the hotel, you share a hotel first in
the second round pick. So boom, he made me get up,
bring my ass up. There, man, so I have completely
missed the flight, miss the trip my roommate. That's the
Jackson left me in the room. I talked to him
after and he said, man, I tried to wake you up.
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I was late too. I tried to wake you up,
wake you up. You weren't getting up. He was through.
I had to grab my bags and go. I don't
talk to Dexter Jackson no more. What I'm saying. He
he ended up he not a good teammate. The next
year they probably I think it was next year he
was on the team's second round pick. They end up
trading them to Carolina, Uh the next year and then
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I don't know how many years he was in the league.
He didn't playing in the the league too many years. And
that's why, because he won a good teammate. If it was,
if the shoe was on the other foot, I would
have got dex ass up, would have been down to together,
or we would have missed together, or we would have
been laid together, whatever would have called a later flight
or something. Whatever it was, we would have did it together.
So boom back to Mark dominant, call I get up, man,
I go over there. They asked, and what happened. I
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ain't a lot to him. I was too drunk. Man,
I missed the flight. Man. They had me do this boxing.
I remember it was it was Tampa, Florida that took
me outside. I boxed for two hours. I boxed and
I ran for two hours straight. Man. I probably was
the hardest punishment I ever did in my life. Man.
So I missed my first trip. Man, I'm glad last
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week I was able to get to the Hall of
Fame and uh and and experience the ceremony. I still
want to go inside the building and see all the
bus and see all the good things. We still didn't
get a chance to do that. So, Man, I can't.
Still in my future plans, I gotta get there, getting
the inside and check it out. Man. Uh It's one
of the things on my bucket list. Man, I gotta
go there, take my kids there, probably take my nephews
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and uh and, and really spend some time out there
in camp. Man. But that's the story I told you all.
I was gonna tell y'all last week what I'm leaving out. Man.
Everybody was worried. I don't know where I was. I
made sure I called my mom, my brother, everybody back
comed a nerves man, tell them I'm just sleep I
just was in here drunk sleep man. That's it. But uh,
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in West Virginia. You got my dog, uh super Bowl champion?
Get these accolades right? Baby? What is it? Two times
three time pro bowler? Who we got man two or
three Pro Bowls two times? Was to pay a Man
of the Year though, you know what I'm saying, feel
that a twine? But there, what's up baby? Man? Slow motion? Man?
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How you doing a good man? Just see what I'm saying.
Living in this retired life, man, how you how your
retired life? Hey? Man, it's gone, you know what I'm saying.
Still getting adjusted to it, but definitely appreciating the free
time the family though, yeah, definitely what's so so? Not
football over with? What is the hardest adjudstment for you?
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Like what I'm saying this period, I think it's just
being idle man. Just um, you know, for half of
my life and as you know, it's it's it's always
been a schedule. It's always been a schedule. Who has
been having a workout, But now not having to workout,
not having to fly different places getting ready for the season. Man,
You've got so much time on your hands, so right, um,
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finally find a thing to do with that free time.
I think for me it's been been a the most
challenging man. Know what one of the most challenging things
is for me is that I don't gotta be no
certain weight no more, right, So it's I'll be eating
every fucking thing bro I'm talking about. So this a
funny story. So I was thinking the same thing. I'm like, Man,
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I don't gotta I don't gonna work out. I don't
gotta be a certain weight. So that you know, COVID
hit wife in the crib cooking everything, the kids in
his stacking on everything. Um, walk by the mirror one day,
Oh hell nah nah, hey, I said, I own the gym.
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The only reason not being this gym is because how
I eat. Bro, I'm like, I'll never see my I
did the same thing, like, oh God, like my back
right here, Like hold up, I ain't never had this.
You feel, I gotta get in the gym. That's why
I stand at gym though. Man, I'm food kind of
sword baby. I love food, Yeah for sure. So boom
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you get you go to uh, you go to h
B c U And we're gonna get to that in
a minute. But you go six round. Did you come
in and make a media impact man on your squad? Uh?
In the media impact? Man? What you think about what
you think it was about your game that that allowed
you to make that transition that quick because really, it
wasn't like Alabama Georgia. It won't that big time college
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football is h b C. U come to the league
and you fit right in, man, So what what you
think it was about your game? A lot you to
do that, man, I just think it was how I
approached it for real, for real, Um, you know it
wasn't you know obviously you know you sixth round, coming
from a smaller school. It was like, you know, whatever,
whatever I could do to uh, to help the help
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the squad was what I was gonna do. But for real,
you know, I wanted to come in and start in
regardless of where where I got drafted. I want to
come and start instantly, right. So my things are like
with ship, I'm about and ball and whatever they do
with that, that's that's up to the coaches and to
the front office. So that's all I did once I
got in between the white lines. Man, just play the game.
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How I know I can play the game. How I've
been talking to, play the game. And that's in the
rest of history. Yeah, that's what's up. That's what's ups.
It'd be it'd be crazy how you find people who
do that, right, I'm saying some guys go to big
time schools, they come in the league, they can't play
final to go to a small school they come to leage,
they're ready to play. Right now, that's goes to show you, man,
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all about that opportunity you get for real, you know
what I'm saying. So you go to Howard Man, nice
well known hbc U man, talk about talk about the
players getting paid and stuff. How do you think that's
going to affect like HBCU think that catch up man
thinking and well what Dion Sanders, Eddie George them got going.
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Man talk about HBCUs where they where they headed right
now with the new rule changing. So I think, first
of I think everybody's gonna gonna be able to benefit
off as far as players wise, just depending on not
even you know, um the power fives. But like you said,
like hbc U s and ai A schools, I think
all players, um, if done right, I think they'll be
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able to benefit from obviously power fives, I think they'll
be able to benefit more. But um, even HBCU players
where you know, you've got the notoriety of like you said, Dion,
Eddie George, um bringing that to the hbc you get
more faces, um and get more notoriety. I think guys
can do it, man, I think they can benefit off
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of it. But you know, it has to be done
the right way. And I think that's the only thing
that I'm nervous about, not only for HBCUs with all
the college players, like you know, it's a it's a
big business man. So the big companies gonna come after
these young dudes. So I just don't want the young
dudes to get lost in the situation where all money
is good money, you know what I'm saying. So like
able to read over them contracts, being able to read
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over that um that that that fine print. Man. But sir,
I think I think everybody's gonna benefit for from him.
Uh you think you think Eddie them gonna get You
think HBCUs to get to not a power five, but
but close. If if Deon do what he say he's
trying to do, trying to get here, trying to get
HBCUs to go to that combine, if he can get
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that done, and then I think with the plugs that
Dion got, Eddie George got in the in the future
hbc U, UH coaches, that's gonna come now that them
guy's got them spots. I just think that the plugs
that Eddie George and Dion them got, Man, that's gonna
it's gonna be hard not to get this number two
running back if he can go to Alabama, or he
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can go to Jackson State over there with Prime and
Prime telling him like, bro, I got an under armed
deal for you that this month. Like I think I
think that's where Dion them gonna kind of catch up
because Alabama is Alabama and Georgia as Georgia. And I
was I we don't get me wrong, but ship Deon
Sanders gonna have some plugs that on none of them
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schools got you know what I'm saying, just because that's
Deon Sanders. No, not for sure, Like you said, like Dion,
name goes a long way. So if Deon coming to
your living room, it's gonna be tough to tell Dion no, right. Um,
it's gonna be tough to tell Eddie George just knowing
his background and what he's been able to do. Um,
But that's that's that's that's Jackson State and you know
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what Tennessee state, right, So I just think it's gonna
it's gonna take some time. But the more that they
can come together collectively as h b c USE and
they can feed off one another, I think it will
help the whole you know, the whole platform or HBCU Yeah, yeah,
that's what's upping. Man. I want to see it get done. Man,
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what I'm saying. I want to see the boys catch up.
Yeah I do too, because, um, because like I said,
it's a lot of ballplayers that go to h B
c USE, it's a lot of a lot of players
that get lost u um, they get lost in the
just the whole um business of football. You know what
I'm saying. When I was coming through, it was a
lot of a lot of ship that they was telling
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me that I couldn't do. Um. And I you know,
I've seen casts that you know, play HBC ball and
not going to training camp and mini camps like y'all.
I know two cats that HI for three cats I
hiver right now that could be playing and playing the
league just off the off that the namesake, you know
what I mean, not going to exposure you know, lost man.
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So I think I think it's coming slowly but shortly.
That's what's up. That's what's up. Let's get back to
the league. Man, you you came in the league, play
for Tony Dungee, right, yeah, talk about Tony Dungeon. A
lot of people know him from like TV Sunday Night
Football or whatever. But man, you play, you played for
him as a player when he was a coach with
some of the things he brought to the table. Man,
what made him great? Man? He was? You know you
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hit him, you hit the turn players coach throwing out there,
but like um or everybody, everybody banded with coach Dungee. Right.
So then I tell I always talk about it, how
you know, you be in the meeting room and you
know coaches always throw that term. You know, we're a
family with a family with a family. But when you
get into the thicketings, when you get into the middle
of the season, sometimes it getting lost, you know what
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I mean. But Donji was he's still he stuck with that,
you know, seeing his family in the building all the time,
his wife, his kids, um. And then just to what
just the way he went about his life, you know
what I mean, when he walked the way the way
he walked, and he talked and guys, we respected that
and he treated us like men. Um, he didn't treat
us like football players. He treated us like men, and
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and guys respected that. And you know, UM, I think
for me, I kind of not saying it was his service,
but I got spoiled being able to come to a
league with leadership like that. It was, it was. It
was amazing. Another great, another great You played with paying
Manny Damn Sheriff. How many years you played with paying Damn?
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How many years you get? Uh? I get with Yeah,
like like seven? Yeah, because he came in, Luck came in.
What he was there the whole time you was there,
right Yeah, now the last two years, Uh he was gone,
so he Yeah, I got six years, six years were
paying man. What made him great? Man? You you've seen it, Um.
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Just preparation man, and the way he held everybody accountable.
I think that was the biggest thing. Like, UM, never
seen um a player that was prepared as much as Peyton.
How much he worked in the film, on the field,
how much, how much he held his players accountable, how
much he held the coaches accountable. You know what I'm saying.
So when you see a future Hall of Famer going
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out there working like he's working, Um, it's that that's
all you can do is go out then you know,
put your best full four exactly. That's that's that was
probably the best thing that happened to me and my
career boy, gonna play with play with Tom then paying
back to back. You know what I'm saying. My work
ethic went through the roof what I'm saying. Watching it
was like I had to impress him. He was like,
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they've walked past. Ready, Oh let me change my ship.
Let me get ready, let me change my fit. What
I'm saying, I'm about to go tear paying asks he
walked past, say a little talk, a little shit, you
know what I'm saying. Same with Tom. So them guys,
they're different man. At presence in the building, it's different.
It's different man. So you're the one want the super Bowl?
Go ahead? Now, I'm just about to say, now that's
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real ship. Like you know what I mean. When they
when they walk in the room, it's like, okay, buddy,
he heat paid heat doing this thing. He got his
note book out taking notes in the team. Obviously it's
something I need to be right down too. So let
me exactly you're trying to do exactly what them do
is trying to do. Man, it's a it's a blessing
to get to play with guys like that. So you
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got a Super Bowl, three Pro Bowls. Man, you got
to watch the pay Man of the Year. We're gonna
talk about that at the end. Uh, what you say,
what you say your best your best accomplishment was your
fourteen year career was the number one thing you did? Um?
You mentioned, Man, it's the Walter pay Man in the Year,
you know, and being able to get that twice in
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two different organizations, man, because we all know, you know,
we what we do in the field, man, you know,
that's that's kind of secondary. But um, being able to
leave a legacy, man, being able to impact other people,
put smiles on put smiles on other people faces. Man,
that's what, Um, that's what it's really about. You know.
Obviously we get platform, we get a huge platform, and
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what we do with that platform goes a long way. Man.
So um, obviously you know, the Super Bowls is dope.
The super Bowl is dope, the Pro Bowl is it
is dope too. But that Walter paid Man in the Year, Man,
that was probably I'll probably say that's the biggest thing
that's what's up. I always applaud y'all who won them awards, right,
But then I'd be like, damn that, how live ain't
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getting no award for that? But I'll be going crazy
in the city and my main city, my home city.
I'll be like, I'll be going nuts. Bro. I'm I don't,
I don't know what it is. Maybe I need to
broadcast a little bit more. That's the crazy thing about it,
because there's so many cats that do do so much
in the community, you know what I mean. And that's
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one thing I feel as though the League could do
start doing a little better job of is highlight everybody
that's doing good in the in the unity, because you know,
the first chance they get, you know, somebody do some
dumb ship exactly. So it's broadcasting, so you know what
I mean. But again, like you said, it's so many guys.
That's that's deserving, man, that's deserving. For real. That's that's
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what I say. And I'm be like, man, how I
didn't did this high here the nomine did? I'll be like, man,
everybody doing stuff. Man, it ain't everybody everybody going having
the community, man. But but talk about let's talk about
that man, that that Watcher Payton. I mean, you're going
hamm in the community. Man, what you got going with
your foundation and what kind of stuff you'd be doing
out there. Man, So right now I'm really focusing back
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in my hometown, Newport News, Virginia. UM. You know, we
focused on continuing education in the inner city. So we're
just really trying to help the inner city, the kids
in the inner city. UM expose them to what's outside
their everyday life, you know, UM, as you know, UM,
it's all about exposure. And one thing I just know
around the way is that you know, the kids don't
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know what they don't know. Excuse me. So being able
to um supply them with books, with I passed with laptops,
sending them, taking them on on college stores. I take
them up to Howard University, UM every year. I try
to give them an experience of the HBCU campus and
the p w Y just so they can feel the
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different energy, see the different scenity, and just um, just
give them and give them the real man. Just give
them opportunity. And then I obviously know doing things giving
Christmas back to school, man, we do things for the
for the community. You that's what's up man, that's dope.
That's dope. Man. Need more like you, my boy, before
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I let you get out of here, Before I let
you get out of here. Top five dbs. Uh, let's say,
let's say since you rock out of that safety safeties
and corners dbs period? Man, who you like all time? Now?
Right now, right now? We want to know who in
the game right now? You get? You get five, I
get five and a bundle of corners and safeties. Wow,
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that's so I'm gonna go to jail. I'm gonna go,
Jayla ramp No, I'm not. It's not won the five.
I'm just gonna get your that's just our boat. That's
our boat. This's your fire, not no particularly McGee, Jayla Ramsey.
I'm gonna give you um My Guy, Budda Baker, Justin Simmons. Um,
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I'm gonna give you gil More Gil And I'm gonna
give you um Durwin James, Durwin James. That's an interesting list.
I ain't gonna lie to you. You know what I'm saying.
I I expected the honey Badger to come out. I
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expected uh Xavier Howard to come out. And I'm saying
I was thinking. I was thinking about I was thinking
about me knowing you. I know, the type of player
you was, the type of style you like. I was
expecting names like that. You feel me. I'm I'm mad
I didn't have my guy Honey Badger in there because
it's only five spots though. Yeah, but you know it's
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it's so many good dbs out there now, man, Um,
and then to put you know, like you said, corners
and safety. You know, obviously somebody will get left out,
but um, all difference makers, all difference makers the show.
You know what I'm saying. Hey, I ain't gonna hold you, baby.
I appreciate it. That's all I got. Man, You got
anything else you want to pub up right now? Your podcast?
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Anything you're doing? Yeah, Man to the listeners, Man, y'all
come check us out the man, the man part of
myself and there's but again, Man, you keep doing what
you're doing, bro, and appreciate you have me. You already know. Man,
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a great interview with my dog Antoine, but they coming up.
But first last week, man, we talked Hall of Fame
a little bit, and uh, I told you I was
gonna tell you all the story, man, about how I
missed my first trip to the Hall of Fame. So
when you here, here you go. So you know, I
think I might have been in the first class of
of the team taking their rookie class to the Hall
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of Fame. So you know, long story short, you know,
you pick a day. Uh I can't even remember when
it is. It might be before a training camp or
during training and campbell. Maybe I can't even really remember.
But they take the draft picks, you know, all your
undrafted free agents. Take everybody, man, You take everybody to
the Hall of Fame so gods can respect the game.
You go see the best guys of the game. It's
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the Hall. So everybody want to experience that. So you know,
they put together a nice little trip for you and
kind of give you a tour of that. I don't
know with COVID now, I don't know if they're still
doing it, but oh wait, when I was a young boy,
they definitely was doing it. So Bam. The day before
we get on this plane to go to the Hall
of Fame and can the rookie class, we had an
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alcohol awareness event. So you know, at this alcohol awareness event,
our player personnel, Guy Evans shout out events. Man, he
was one of my favorite player personnel. Guy. Uh, they
put it together. Man. We go to a restaurant, we
got a back room. They feed us first and then
they you know, they just keep us in here. They
really they tell you why, but we don't know why.
We're in there so long. They how you win there
(01:54):
so long so you actually can get drunk. Right. They
want you to be drunk. They want you to feel
how it feels to you know, take a sobriety test.
You always think you're straight, but you're never straight. So
they just making it away. They wanted us to get drunk.
We got drunk. We hung out in there for like
three hours. We drunk as hell. We probably took it overboard,
you know, as we young rookies, freshly rich man we
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enjoying ourselves. Uh, free drinks, everything was free, so you know,
we probably took it a little to the next level,
know what I'm saying. But they wanted us too, so
we went through it. Man, with the sobriety tests were laughing.
We had a great time. Man. We we really saw
that when you think you could drive, you really can't drive.
You really not as good as you think you are,
I'm saying. And events like that they bring awareness to
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you know, drinking and driving and things like that. So
I think the event was great. But to have it
the day before we got to get up at six
in the morning and get on this plane, I don't
know if that was the best idea. So you know,
after the event, you know, they gave us car service
and everything. So we took advantage of the car service.
We went to the club. We probably had a couple
more drinks. I don't remember all that, remember that part
(03:00):
of the story. But boom, the morning comes about ten o'clock.
Our flight, our flight probably left at let's say eight.
Wake up. Our plan. Don't get in the past sixty.
I'm saying being down. There were at the airport, Marriott,
so we at the airport. Our our hotel, it's connected
to the airport. That's what makes it so bad. I
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wake up about ten flight probably left at eight thirty nine,
with like a hundred and fifty text messages, hundred and
fifty miss calls. Now it's everybody from my mom to
my brother, to the to the GM to coach grew In, everybody,
my DV coach right hand Moore, everybody calling. They don't
(03:43):
know where I'm at. They don't know if something wrong.
I can I can hear the panic in the voice.
So I woke up to the room phone where the
room phone ringing. I'm like, what the hell? After the
room phone like it's it's Mark Dominic, get your grass up.
I'm like, oh ship. So I'm looking at him like
dex Dad. That's my roommate. That's the Jackson I'm saying
from Appelation State. He was our second round pick. We
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was actually sharing the hotel. What I'm saying, until you
get out the hotel, you share a hotel first in
the second round pick. So boom, he made me get up,
bring my ass up. There, man, so I have completely
missed the flight, miss the trip my roommate. That's the
Jackson left me in the room. I talked to him
after and he said, man, I tried to wake you up.
(04:24):
I was late too. I tried to wake you up,
wake you up. You weren't getting up. He was through.
I had to grab my bags and go. I don't
talk to Dexter Jackson no more. What I'm saying. He
he ended up he not a good teammate. The next
year they probably I think it was next year he
was on the team's second round pick. They end up
trading them to Carolina, Uh the next year and then
(04:45):
I don't know how many years he was in the league.
He didn't playing in the the league too many years. And
that's why, because he won a good teammate. If it was,
if the shoe was on the other foot, I would
have got dex ass up, would have been down to together,
or we would have missed together, or we would have
been laid together, whatever would have called a later flight
or something. Whatever it was, we would have did it together.
So boom back to Mark dominant, call I get up, man,
I go over there. They asked, and what happened. I
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ain't a lot to him. I was too drunk. Man,
I missed the flight. Man. They had me do this boxing.
I remember it was it was Tampa, Florida that took
me outside. I boxed for two hours. I boxed and
I ran for two hours straight. Man. I probably was
the hardest punishment I ever did in my life. Man.
So I missed my first trip. Man, I'm glad last
(05:30):
week I was able to get to the Hall of
Fame and uh and and experience the ceremony. I still
want to go inside the building and see all the
bus and see all the good things. We still didn't
get a chance to do that. So, Man, I can't.
Still in my future plans, I gotta get there, getting
the inside and check it out. Man. Uh It's one
of the things on my bucket list. Man, I gotta
go there, take my kids there, probably take my nephews
(05:52):
and uh and, and really spend some time out there
in camp. Man. But that's the story I told you all.
I was gonna tell y'all last week what I'm leaving out. Man.
Everybody was worried. I don't know where I was. I
made sure I called my mom, my brother, everybody back
comed a nerves man, tell them I'm just sleep I
just was in here drunk sleep man. That's it. But uh,
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in West Virginia. You got my dog, uh super Bowl champion?
Get these accolades right? Baby? What is it? Two times
three time pro bowler? Who we got man two or
three Pro Bowls two times? Was to pay a Man
of the Year though, you know what I'm saying, feel
that a twine? But there, what's up baby? Man? Slow motion? Man?
(08:23):
How you doing a good man? Just see what I'm saying.
Living in this retired life, man, how you how your
retired life? Hey? Man, it's gone, you know what I'm saying.
Still getting adjusted to it, but definitely appreciating the free
time the family though, yeah, definitely what's so so? Not
football over with? What is the hardest adjudstment for you?
(08:45):
Like what I'm saying this period, I think it's just
being idle man. Just um, you know, for half of
my life and as you know, it's it's it's always
been a schedule. It's always been a schedule. Who has
been having a workout, But now not having to workout,
not having to fly different places getting ready for the season. Man,
You've got so much time on your hands, so right, um,
(09:08):
finally find a thing to do with that free time.
I think for me it's been been a the most
challenging man. Know what one of the most challenging things
is for me is that I don't gotta be no
certain weight no more, right, So it's I'll be eating
every fucking thing bro I'm talking about. So this a
funny story. So I was thinking the same thing. I'm like, Man,
(09:31):
I don't gotta I don't gonna work out. I don't
gotta be a certain weight. So that you know, COVID
hit wife in the crib cooking everything, the kids in
his stacking on everything. Um, walk by the mirror one day,
Oh hell nah nah, hey, I said, I own the gym.
(09:52):
The only reason not being this gym is because how
I eat. Bro, I'm like, I'll never see my I
did the same thing, like, oh God, like my back
right here, Like hold up, I ain't never had this.
You feel, I gotta get in the gym. That's why
I stand at gym though. Man, I'm food kind of
sword baby. I love food, Yeah for sure. So boom
(10:12):
you get you go to uh, you go to h
B c U And we're gonna get to that in
a minute. But you go six round. Did you come
in and make a media impact man on your squad? Uh?
In the media impact? Man? What you think about what
you think it was about your game that that allowed
you to make that transition that quick because really, it
wasn't like Alabama Georgia. It won't that big time college
(10:36):
football is h b C. U come to the league
and you fit right in, man, So what what you
think it was about your game? A lot you to
do that, man, I just think it was how I
approached it for real, for real, Um, you know it
wasn't you know obviously you know you sixth round, coming
from a smaller school. It was like, you know, whatever,
whatever I could do to uh, to help the help
(10:58):
the squad was what I was gonna do. But for real,
you know, I wanted to come in and start in
regardless of where where I got drafted. I want to
come and start instantly, right. So my things are like
with ship, I'm about and ball and whatever they do
with that, that's that's up to the coaches and to
the front office. So that's all I did once I
got in between the white lines. Man, just play the game.
(11:20):
How I know I can play the game. How I've
been talking to, play the game. And that's in the
rest of history. Yeah, that's what's up. That's what's ups.
It'd be it'd be crazy how you find people who
do that, right, I'm saying some guys go to big
time schools, they come in the league, they can't play
final to go to a small school they come to leage,
they're ready to play. Right now, that's goes to show you, man,
(11:40):
all about that opportunity you get for real, you know
what I'm saying. So you go to Howard Man, nice
well known hbc U man, talk about talk about the
players getting paid and stuff. How do you think that's
going to affect like HBCU think that catch up man
thinking and well what Dion Sanders, Eddie George them got going.
(12:02):
Man talk about HBCUs where they where they headed right
now with the new rule changing. So I think, first
of I think everybody's gonna gonna be able to benefit
off as far as players wise, just depending on not
even you know, um the power fives. But like you said,
like hbc U s and ai A schools, I think
all players, um, if done right, I think they'll be
(12:23):
able to benefit from obviously power fives, I think they'll
be able to benefit more. But um, even HBCU players
where you know, you've got the notoriety of like you said, Dion,
Eddie George, um bringing that to the hbc you get
more faces, um and get more notoriety. I think guys
can do it, man, I think they can benefit off
(12:43):
of it. But you know, it has to be done
the right way. And I think that's the only thing
that I'm nervous about, not only for HBCUs with all
the college players, like you know, it's a it's a
big business man. So the big companies gonna come after
these young dudes. So I just don't want the young
dudes to get lost in the situation where all money
is good money, you know what I'm saying. So like
able to read over them contracts, being able to read
(13:05):
over that um that that that fine print. Man. But sir,
I think I think everybody's gonna benefit for from him.
Uh you think you think Eddie them gonna get You
think HBCUs to get to not a power five, but
but close. If if Deon do what he say he's
trying to do, trying to get here, trying to get
HBCUs to go to that combine, if he can get
(13:26):
that done, and then I think with the plugs that
Dion got, Eddie George got in the in the future
hbc U, UH coaches, that's gonna come now that them
guy's got them spots. I just think that the plugs
that Eddie George and Dion them got, Man, that's gonna
it's gonna be hard not to get this number two
running back if he can go to Alabama, or he
(13:46):
can go to Jackson State over there with Prime and
Prime telling him like, bro, I got an under armed
deal for you that this month. Like I think I
think that's where Dion them gonna kind of catch up
because Alabama is Alabama and Georgia as Georgia. And I
was I we don't get me wrong, but ship Deon
Sanders gonna have some plugs that on none of them
(14:06):
schools got you know what I'm saying, just because that's
Deon Sanders. No, not for sure, Like you said, like Dion,
name goes a long way. So if Deon coming to
your living room, it's gonna be tough to tell Dion no, right. Um,
it's gonna be tough to tell Eddie George just knowing
his background and what he's been able to do. Um,
But that's that's that's that's Jackson State and you know
(14:29):
what Tennessee state, right, So I just think it's gonna
it's gonna take some time. But the more that they
can come together collectively as h b c USE and
they can feed off one another, I think it will
help the whole you know, the whole platform or HBCU Yeah, yeah,
that's what's upping. Man. I want to see it get done. Man,
(14:49):
what I'm saying. I want to see the boys catch up.
Yeah I do too, because, um, because like I said,
it's a lot of ballplayers that go to h B
c USE, it's a lot of a lot of players
that get lost u um, they get lost in the
just the whole um business of football. You know what
I'm saying. When I was coming through, it was a
lot of a lot of ship that they was telling
(15:09):
me that I couldn't do. Um. And I you know,
I've seen casts that you know, play HBC ball and
not going to training camp and mini camps like y'all.
I know two cats that HI for three cats I
hiver right now that could be playing and playing the
league just off the off that the namesake, you know
what I mean, not going to exposure you know, lost man.
(15:31):
So I think I think it's coming slowly but shortly.
That's what's up. That's what's up. Let's get back to
the league. Man, you you came in the league, play
for Tony Dungee, right, yeah, talk about Tony Dungeon. A
lot of people know him from like TV Sunday Night
Football or whatever. But man, you play, you played for
him as a player when he was a coach with
some of the things he brought to the table. Man,
what made him great? Man? He was? You know you
(15:54):
hit him, you hit the turn players coach throwing out there,
but like um or everybody, everybody banded with coach Dungee. Right.
So then I tell I always talk about it, how
you know, you be in the meeting room and you
know coaches always throw that term. You know, we're a
family with a family with a family. But when you
get into the thicketings, when you get into the middle
of the season, sometimes it getting lost, you know what
(16:16):
I mean. But Donji was he's still he stuck with that,
you know, seeing his family in the building all the time,
his wife, his kids, um. And then just to what
just the way he went about his life, you know
what I mean, when he walked the way the way
he walked, and he talked and guys, we respected that
and he treated us like men. Um, he didn't treat
us like football players. He treated us like men, and
(16:38):
and guys respected that. And you know, UM, I think
for me, I kind of not saying it was his service,
but I got spoiled being able to come to a
league with leadership like that. It was, it was. It
was amazing. Another great, another great You played with paying
Manny Damn Sheriff. How many years you played with paying Damn?
(17:01):
How many years you get? Uh? I get with Yeah,
like like seven? Yeah, because he came in, Luck came in.
What he was there the whole time you was there,
right Yeah, now the last two years, Uh he was gone,
so he Yeah, I got six years, six years were
paying man. What made him great? Man? You you've seen it, Um.
(17:26):
Just preparation man, and the way he held everybody accountable.
I think that was the biggest thing. Like, UM, never
seen um a player that was prepared as much as Peyton.
How much he worked in the film, on the field,
how much, how much he held his players accountable, how
much he held the coaches accountable. You know what I'm saying.
So when you see a future Hall of Famer going
(17:48):
out there working like he's working, Um, it's that that's
all you can do is go out then you know,
put your best full four exactly. That's that's that was
probably the best thing that happened to me and my
career boy, gonna play with play with Tom then paying
back to back. You know what I'm saying. My work
ethic went through the roof what I'm saying. Watching it
was like I had to impress him. He was like,
(18:12):
they've walked past. Ready, Oh let me change my ship.
Let me get ready, let me change my fit. What
I'm saying, I'm about to go tear paying asks he
walked past, say a little talk, a little shit, you
know what I'm saying. Same with Tom. So them guys,
they're different man. At presence in the building, it's different.
It's different man. So you're the one want the super Bowl?
Go ahead? Now, I'm just about to say, now that's
(18:33):
real ship. Like you know what I mean. When they
when they walk in the room, it's like, okay, buddy,
he heat paid heat doing this thing. He got his
note book out taking notes in the team. Obviously it's
something I need to be right down too. So let
me exactly you're trying to do exactly what them do
is trying to do. Man, it's a it's a blessing
to get to play with guys like that. So you
(18:53):
got a Super Bowl, three Pro Bowls. Man, you got
to watch the pay Man of the Year. We're gonna
talk about that at the end. Uh, what you say,
what you say your best your best accomplishment was your
fourteen year career was the number one thing you did? Um?
You mentioned, Man, it's the Walter pay Man in the Year,
you know, and being able to get that twice in
(19:15):
two different organizations, man, because we all know, you know,
we what we do in the field, man, you know,
that's that's kind of secondary. But um, being able to
leave a legacy, man, being able to impact other people,
put smiles on put smiles on other people faces. Man,
that's what, Um, that's what it's really about. You know.
Obviously we get platform, we get a huge platform, and
(19:35):
what we do with that platform goes a long way. Man.
So um, obviously you know, the Super Bowls is dope.
The super Bowl is dope, the Pro Bowl is it
is dope too. But that Walter paid Man in the Year, Man,
that was probably I'll probably say that's the biggest thing
that's what's up. I always applaud y'all who won them awards, right,
But then I'd be like, damn that, how live ain't
(19:57):
getting no award for that? But I'll be going crazy
in the city and my main city, my home city.
I'll be like, I'll be going nuts. Bro. I'm I don't,
I don't know what it is. Maybe I need to
broadcast a little bit more. That's the crazy thing about it,
because there's so many cats that do do so much
in the community, you know what I mean. And that's
(20:18):
one thing I feel as though the League could do
start doing a little better job of is highlight everybody
that's doing good in the in the unity, because you know,
the first chance they get, you know, somebody do some
dumb ship exactly. So it's broadcasting, so you know what
I mean. But again, like you said, it's so many guys.
That's that's deserving, man, that's deserving. For real. That's that's
(20:40):
what I say. And I'm be like, man, how I
didn't did this high here the nomine did? I'll be like, man,
everybody doing stuff. Man, it ain't everybody everybody going having
the community, man. But but talk about let's talk about
that man, that that Watcher Payton. I mean, you're going
hamm in the community. Man, what you got going with
your foundation and what kind of stuff you'd be doing
out there. Man, So right now I'm really focusing back
(21:03):
in my hometown, Newport News, Virginia. UM. You know, we
focused on continuing education in the inner city. So we're
just really trying to help the inner city, the kids
in the inner city. UM expose them to what's outside
their everyday life, you know, UM, as you know, UM,
it's all about exposure. And one thing I just know
around the way is that you know, the kids don't
(21:24):
know what they don't know. Excuse me. So being able
to um supply them with books, with I passed with laptops,
sending them, taking them on on college stores. I take
them up to Howard University, UM every year. I try
to give them an experience of the HBCU campus and
the p w Y just so they can feel the
(21:45):
different energy, see the different scenity, and just um, just
give them and give them the real man. Just give
them opportunity. And then I obviously know doing things giving
Christmas back to school, man, we do things for the
for the community. You that's what's up man, that's dope.
That's dope. Man. Need more like you, my boy, before
(22:05):
I let you get out of here, Before I let
you get out of here. Top five dbs. Uh, let's say,
let's say since you rock out of that safety safeties
and corners dbs period? Man, who you like all time? Now?
Right now, right now? We want to know who in
the game right now? You get? You get five, I
get five and a bundle of corners and safeties. Wow,
(22:29):
that's so I'm gonna go to jail. I'm gonna go,
Jayla ramp No, I'm not. It's not won the five.
I'm just gonna get your that's just our boat. That's
our boat. This's your fire, not no particularly McGee, Jayla Ramsey.
I'm gonna give you um My Guy, Budda Baker, Justin Simmons. Um,
(22:54):
I'm gonna give you gil More Gil And I'm gonna
give you um Durwin James, Durwin James. That's an interesting list.
I ain't gonna lie to you. You know what I'm saying.
I I expected the honey Badger to come out. I
(23:15):
expected uh Xavier Howard to come out. And I'm saying
I was thinking. I was thinking about I was thinking
about me knowing you. I know, the type of player
you was, the type of style you like. I was
expecting names like that. You feel me. I'm I'm mad
I didn't have my guy Honey Badger in there because
it's only five spots though. Yeah, but you know it's
(23:38):
it's so many good dbs out there now, man, Um,
and then to put you know, like you said, corners
and safety. You know, obviously somebody will get left out,
but um, all difference makers, all difference makers the show.
You know what I'm saying. Hey, I ain't gonna hold you, baby.
I appreciate it. That's all I got. Man, You got
anything else you want to pub up right now? Your podcast?
(24:00):
Anything you're doing? Yeah, Man to the listeners, Man, y'all
come check us out the man, the man part of
myself and there's but again, Man, you keep doing what
you're doing, bro, and appreciate you have me. You already know. Man,
we're catching phase and trying. But there man, y'all tune
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