October 26, 2021 • 24 mins
2X Super Bowl Champion and Walter Payton Man of the Year Chris Long, is Catchin’ Fades with Aqib Talib this week. Long and Talib talk about the struggles of the Kansas City Chiefs, and what it will take for Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes to turn it around.
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talk a little Chiefs today on our Tastes today. So
last time we talked Chiefs, man, I think I said
I wasn't really worried about the Chiefs because they played
the Browns, the Ravens, the Chargers, and the Bills, which
was basically the a f C playoffs, Right, So I
know I have my own spill way. I was looking
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at it. Man, they got a head start on the
teams who they're gonna play in the postseason. Right. But
now I'm starting to be a little a little bit
concerned about the Chiefs. These are the reasons why. I
because the turnovers. Since I said that, since I talked
about them the first time, the turnovers have increased. Man,
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I think it's kind of rubbing off. It's not just
Mahomes now, it's Miko Harmon on fumble. The last two weeks,
uh Pringo had a fumble I think two weeks ago
against the Bills, So it's kind of rubbing off on
the other guys. Man, They're starting to lose fumbles. A
lot of these tip balls, all of them is not
Mahomes faults. A lot of these tip balls are starting
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to be interceptions now. And if you just see the
body language, man, you see the look on Patrick Mahomes face,
I think it's starting to get to him now. Man.
So they got a super important three games stretch coming up.
I think they almost get a week off this week
Giants at the Crib, you would get you would definitely
get a win there. It's almost like a bye week. Man.
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They're prepared. They to kind of get their Maril back up.
But the next three games the Packers, the Raiders, the Cowboys,
and that's almost like a playoff run. If you if
you come out of that, if you come out of
that three game stretch two in one, the morale might
still be where it needs to be. But if you
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come out of that three game stretch one and two,
it may definitely be over for these Chiefs. Man. It's
I think the team is starting to believe that, like
we're sloppy football team, and nothing's going on our way
this year. So football is mental, man, You don't you
could talk to yourself and or you could believe yourself
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all the way to the super Bowl, and you could
believe yourself all the way to the number one pick
from being bad man. So just the body language, the
morale of the team is starting to change, in my
opinion from what I see man gods starting to hang
their head, gods starting to fuss at each other. And
you didn't see those things when they lost the early
three games. Lost another tough one against the Titans, and
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this might have been the worst loss out of all
of them. And offense did absolutely nothing. Usually the offense
keep you in the game, you make a mistake, you
come back, score a long touchdown. The offense did absolutely nothing,
and the defense didn't stop him at all. I mean,
Derrick Henry only had a hundred yards, he threw a touchdown.
I think he had a hundred yards and a touchdown.
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Didn't play that bad on defense, but you just they
kind of just had their way with the chiefs man,
And in my opinion, it was the uglier, ugliest lost
out of all the losses. So three games stretch coming up,
for the Chiefs this next month, next four weeks. A
word for football for the Chiefs is super important. I
think it could possibly be over for the Chiefs or
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it could possibly turn around. They gotta have a mind right, man.
The leaders gotta lead. They gotta get this bad ju ju.
This this in the past when things went right for
the Chiefs. It seemed like everything went right for the Chiefs.
Tip balls hit off, a guy helmet somebody on the
Chiefs to catch it. He barely got sacked. I mean
he barely. They have fumbles loss. They just didn't have
a lot of negative energy. Man. Now a lot of
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these tip passes at the line of scrimma just turn
their interceptions. Like I said, other guys are starting to fumble.
You gotta positively think your way out of those situations.
Definitely gonna start with Andy Reid. Patrick Mahomes gonna be
a big part of it. Man. So we're watching the
Chiefs for the next four weeks. It's basically playoff time
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catching phase I key to leave here. We got my
guy on today, Chris Long, y'allnois super Bowl Champ, All
that good ship, green light Poe. You know what I'm saying, Hosts,
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all that good ship? Chris? What's up? Baby? It's the
word man A good man? How you I'm good? I'm
all eyes on Monday Night football right because we gotta
you got a couple of Baltimore guys going, We're going
head to head here. My first question, do you feel safe?
I feel really safe. Mark Andrews are one of my
other teams, and he hasn't been like putting up points
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like that, so I'm hoping, Yeah, he hadn't been scoring touchdowns.
So I got a little cushion. It's like eight points, right,
I got got Hollywood, Hollywood, I got Andrews playing at night.
I'm saying Chris is up twenty eight points, but I'm confident.
Look if ye lamar Win like, I think he'd win.
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One of these dudes that had twenty the other one
that had like twelve. Yeah, I got the Ravens to tonight,
but I'm probably just gonna I'm gonna probably bet the
Ravens and I don't even know what the line is, honestly,
MINDU seven? You like him straight? MINDU seven? Well, I
might tease that. I might tease that, and the under
get it to a pick them and whatever that total is,
I'm taking the under that under look that under is.
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If you tease, it's gonna be fifty two in the half.
I love that. Do you like it? That way or
do you like the teaser coach plus thirteen and a
half under fifty two and a half. So it's in Baltimore,
tough place to play, you know, flash lights. I love that. Uh.
You know, Carson hasn't looked great yet this year. He
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hasn't looked like awful, but he's looked really mid grade, like,
you know, like the processing has been a little slow.
I think the defense is gonna help keep him in it.
But if the Ravens get like a turnover or something,
it could get ugly. It could be like seven. You know,
I hope it don't, baby. I bet the thirteen and
a half. It's provocative. It's provocative, bro. I kind of
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like what you're saying. But I also might just teach
it to pick him because I feel real good about
the raven It was too good for me not to
take it. Man, y'all know this is my dog. Oh
eight draft class man, we're still here. We still here, baby,
I'm saying, we're still working. Who still in the league
from our draft class? Colas Coleas dude, Sean Sean dude,
how can you be that fast and that old no offense?
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That I mean, we're all old. But like I'm just
looking at de Shan. Oh my god, dude, that monkey
did jump on his back last game. Though I've never
seen De Sean ever do that. That's my first time
every it's the first. What was your favorite thing about that?
That that two thousand eight a year man? Man, you
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know what, I just thought they were good dudes that
kept in touch. We had a lot of grinders in
that group. Um, you know, like I took pride in
watching you know, guys like yourself still balling at like
an incredibly high level. Kolis like dudes we knew, Um
you know Grad Mayo who's coaching in in in New England. Uh. Now,
Like there were just a bunch of good dudes in
that class. Um. I guess the big thing would be
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it was funny going Jake Long, Chris Long one and
too so that everybody thought we were brothers. Jake had
a great career, you know, he got hurt and it
got shortened that way. But we had some good dudes.
And that I remember the Playboy All American trip. I
can remember all I got all the pictures. Yeah yeah, man,
that's what's up. That's what's up, man, So let's get
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to it. Who the surprise team this year? Who you like?
Surprise team? Goodness gracious, you know, if the Bears figure
it out a little bit, they might be you know,
with with Fields because quite as kept he's been there.
He's been the best rookie in a lot of ways,
and in a situation that I didn't think And I
don't know about you, but I just don't think much
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of Matt and Naggey in that program there for him
to thrive the last couple of games, you know, I don't.
I don't want the Raiders win to be fool's gold. Obviously,
they dealt a lot of ship this week because their
coach was an idiot. Uh and and you know the
things he said, uh, coming to the surface in a
short week after the Chargers game, who are very physical.
I'm not surprised by the Chargers. Speaking of surprise teams,
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I mean, like I call on my side team. I
love watching the Chargers, uh, and I'm excited about them.
But maybe the Bears, you know, sneak in and losing
the first round. And the Bears look they're getting healthy too,
They're gonna get Dannage of faithan back. You know what
I'm saying, uh, Gift going to come back. He heard
his he heard a hamstringing practice. Even to come back.
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He's been out like the last two games. He's gonna
come back here in a minute. So I just got
big gold in bad in the middle. So they're getting
healthy too, man. And you know they always stand on
that defense. That defense is, it's what they hang their
hat on in justin fields that game, Chris, I'm telling you, yeah,
he's pretty good, especially as it looks bro. It was
it was, it was perfect. Yeah, his stats, he gave
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you like eight fantasy points, but he played a perfect game.
I promised you was perfect. And that's all. That's all
you want out of a kid like that. You know,
like the learning curve is steep in the NFL. I mean,
certainly there are adjustments that people pointed out coming from
Ohio State to the NFL, but the program is less
like the program than it's ever been. So, you know,
I think people might make too big a deal about well,
you know, they ran the offense a certain way at
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Ohio State. I think the kid has been really he's
got a lot of dignity. He's dealt with the bullshit,
he's dealt with you know, sitting in that draft room
for a while. He's dealt with people criticizing him and
doubting him, and I think he's just going about his business.
So I'm really rooting for that kid man and the defense.
You said at Robert Quinn, one of my one of
my dudes from back in St. Louis is still bawling.
Khalil had like eight tackles the sad you know, they're
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they're physical on defense. Yeah, they got a good defense
over there. So if justin, if just at first, who's second,
what's that? What's what's the next rookie quarterback? Looking looking promising? Man?
Oh man, you know, I go down the line. I
think the Zach Wilson week against UM Tennessee was fool's gold.
I mean, you know, he put up good numbers, but
I think, uh, I think his ball placement wasn't great.
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If you watch that plays from exactly uh, and you know,
people jump out of the gym for that sort of thing.
But I look at UM what Trevor Lawrence is doing
down in in Jacksonville, and honestly, as bad as they've been,
he's showed hell how to promise. You know, some of
these balls a zip he has on some of these balls.
You know what I know it. You know, like if
they can stabilize down there, which is probably gonna be
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the next coach, Uh, he's gonna be okay. And mac
Jones is just gonna be in a good situation. Now.
I don't love the way Josh mcdannon's is calling games,
but I think they know what they need to do, uh,
to stay in ball games and maybe get better as
the year goes on. You know how they go there,
they learn as they goes on. They say the playoffs
or the season doesn't start to l after Halloween, so
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it's starting any time now exactly? He really say he
really say uh to November after Halloween. November? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I say mac jons though, just because that situation, Man,
you're in a tremendous situation. You gotta a great offensive coordinator. Man.
He might be struggling to find your way, but he
gonna find it because he always found He found tebow wave, right,
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he find everybody wave, man, So I think he got
a good defense man Judo flying around that secondary. It's
gonna turn the corner at any moment. So, yeah, they
learned this situation there with Bill Man, so I put
I put him at two. I put Trevor at three
because I called one of those games two and Trevor
it's it's it looked good to man. He just needs
his team to make plays for him. Well, I'll tell
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you what they're not gonna do. And I don't know
if you heard this quote from Urban Meyer. He said
this morning and he plans to rush for two fifty
game and throw for two fifty game. And I said, well,
you're not gonna be there a long, buddy, because that's
happened like thirty times in the history of the league.
And asked, right now, heyer need to stay away from
all mix right now? Man, Yeah, they need to put
him in in the office and shut the door. To
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set the door real quick. Man, all right, So what team?
What team? What team? Gotta losing record, but they're gonna
be just finally, Oh, let me look at this for
sec keep. That's a really good question. Um, you know,
the look at it for that? Why you look? Because
because I was the gate, I think it's Kansas City.
But I don't think Kansas City is going to figure
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it out the way they figured it out two years
ago defensively, I think they have some issues that they
didn't address offensively and defensively that are going to hurt them.
I think that when you have Patrick Mahomes, you and
I agree, like anybody, you can beat anybody any week.
But they could be like an eleven and six team. Now.
I don't think the first five games here at two
and three is representative them as a whole. But I
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also think the struggles are real. I mean, like, I
don't think they're the same team as they were before.
I'm looking it maybe, um this, I don't think the
Colts are okay. Um, you know, I I worry about
the Colts. We're talking about Carson Wentz. I don't think
they're gonna be okay. I hope the Viking no. So
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I've been kind of people on my pod think I
hate Sam Frank because we were rivals, but I really don't.
I just don't think they're that good, dude. I just
think like people overvalue wins against San Francisco. I think
they're a very solid team, but until they figure out
the quarterback, I'm not afraid of them. You know, Um,
I think the Seahawks maybe eventually are a little bit
more dangerous than the record shows. But I just don't
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trust them. And then Russell there eight, Russ gonna eight,
I definitely don't trust you, yeah, exactly. So he's gonna
be out what six eight weeks? Russell? So it's probably
more like six if Gino and I haven't looked at
their schedule, you know, can split these games down the middle,
you know, like, yeah, it's too three years ago, when
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Drew Breese got hurt, it was the same type injury.
Was Aaron Donald too, was most dangerous high five in football,
put him out for six eight weeks I think it was. Yeah. Yeah,
they stabilized and then they got back in it and
made a run. Yeah that was That wasn't Geno though,
That was Teddy, and I like Teddy better than Gino. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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So the Broncos maybe straight they went against that Black
and Blue Division. Man, they had some hard, physical games
against the Ravens and Pittsburgh. But if I say one
man a team, bad record, they're gonna be just fine.
I gotta ride with the Chiefs. Y'all them played Chargers,
Brown's Ravens and Builds, like, yeah, them all them your
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playoff teams right there, y'all don't already looked at all
of them. Y'all see how they're gonna play all in
the playoffs. I think that's the best thing that can
happen in Kansas City. Y'all see these teams right now,
you know exactly how they're gonna play you in the playoffs.
You got fourteen fourteen weeks to find an answer to
that defense. Everybody on the same thing on them. Man,
So to the Tiefs right there, and you tell me,
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nobody scares me outside of Kelsey and Hill. And I
feel like there's guys catching football for them that I've
never heard of, and and that's a problem. And then
in the secondary you saw last night they just picked
on Sorenson. They don't have a great pass rush outside
of Chris Jones right now. They're not getting everything they
want out of frank Um and they got to use
him at the end, and I think that messes up
their whole flow. So they got a lot of work
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to do, and they're gonna do they do. They don't
get me wrong, I know they got a lot of
work to do. I just if you looked at the
glass half full, you would say these are teams that
they're gonna play in the playoffs. They play them, they
know how they're gonna play them. They gotta kind of
got a little head start, you know what I'm saying,
to the playoffs. So you know, they got a whole
bunch of injuries. Man, you gotta figure out on defense.
You all gotta figure it out on offense. Somebody needs
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to make some plays. Miko Harmon out there, alligator arm
and everything yesterday. But man, you know they do, they
do have a lot of work to do. Uh, Cardinals,
Cardinals best team in football right now? Man, you know
who I really like? I really and I'm not being reactive. Um,
you know, the Bucks are sneaking up on people because
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it's amazing. The NFC South is so the markets are
so weird that they're hiding Tom Brady. Like nobody watched
that Atlanta game a couple of weeks ago. Nobody watched
that game yesterday. He threw five touchdowns. He's sneaking up
on people. Another team that's sneaking up on people until
last night is the Bills. You know they were playing
a lot of cheek spots, man, Like you know, like
teams that you know, I wasn't watching and so everybody
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took that Pittsburgh game and they were like, well, you
know that one week, one fluky ship that goes on.
I think people took it to me that they're not
the team they were last year. But they got a
lot better up front. You saw the way they rotated
those guys. That reminds me of our group in St. Louis.
And when you're like that and you've got an offenses
and score points. Now, when you have a lead, you
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can get after people. Eponessa not better, you know. I
like their whole d line and I think they took
steps to get better. To me, as much as I
want to say the Chargers because I love them, I
think they'd be a hell of a jump for them
to go from inexperienced postseason team to a team that
you got to worry about winning the Super Bowl. Now.
I could be eat my words, and I hope I
am because I love them. But I think the Bills
are my favorite team um to get there right now.
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So that's the Bills, the Bucks, the Chargers, and the Cardinals.
I heard you say, I just don't buy the Browns
quite yet, like to win it all, but the streaky
they played great one week, then they give up forty
something one week, you know what I'm saying. So, I
don't know, I don't know who the who the Browns
defense is yet. So out of them four teams, though,
who your m v P. So it's funny Justin Herbert,
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if they win thirteen games, is gonna win the m
v P. To me, I mean, that guy's just he's
got the wow factor. I mean, everybody loves watching him play.
He seems like and you know what I love about
them and you as a former player, like with the
attitude you had as a player, Like they're just competitive, bro,
they just they don't they don't blink. They're like, okay,
fourth and fourth and two, we're going for it. Backed up. Hey, seven,
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we throw the ball to to Mike Evans. He drops
the ball or not Mike Kevin, sorry, Keenan Allen. He
drops the ball. They go right back to him on
fourth and seven. You know, like the fade that Justin
Herbert check to in the Kansas City game, like they
just Brandon Staley's attitude is real. Um, so I think
if you're doing a most Valuable player to his team,
it's Lamar Jackson. Now I'm not saying he's having a great,
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great year, but I'm saying, if you take Lamar Jackson
off the Ravens there, the Patriots are worse. And so
I think, you know, like for a team that could
beat anybody any week because of that one player. He's
my most valuable player. But I think justin Herbert probably
wins it if they win thirteen games. I like it.
I like it, I like it. I like Herbert Man. Yeah,
I might have to say I might have to say
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Kyler just because I feel like if you take him
off the Cardinals, they're a totally different team. They probably
had one or two wins right now. You're probably right.
I mean, the defense has improved. They're they're they're they're
manning up more right to pensibly and they're bringing more
pressure um and and they got more pass rush. But yeah,
he creates so much for them out of He makes
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chicken soup out of chicken ship all the time. Hey,
it's too early for a Super Bowl prediction, right, Yeah,
well mine's already. I don't know about dead in the water,
is it what you said? I think I had the
chiefs of the Rams, But do you like that? No more?
That still can happen. I mean, it still can happen.
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I don't want to go back on it. Um. It's
these these are tough, man, because like I really, you
don't even deserve any credit when you get it right
because you're guessing, like everybody's guessing until I guess. Last year,
I guess they're right. It was easy and it happened.
What you that's what you have the score? Did you
have the score? Now I have a score I got.
I got the two teams right though then I then
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I bet on the winter and I lost my money. Right,
So never again when I better get Tommy. But I
like timing them to go back this year. AFC gonna
get Ricky, man, I don't know it's it's not gonna
be who people think it's gonna be. So I think
at the beginning of the year we thought it was
gonna be the Chiefs. Now we think it's gonna be
somebody else. Yeah, I think the Chiefs gonna do it again. Man,
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you think they've been I think they go wild card.
They go to hard road this time. And if the
defense can improve mean a lot to me. When when
you see teams and you they kind of show their hand.
They gotta show their hand to you. Now they kind
of show their hand to you. Now you come, you
the counterpuncher in the second fight. I just like that
about the Chiefs. I like that about Andy Reid. I
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don't know what it is, man, I just I believe
in them boys. Man. We gonna see though. Man, By
the way, do you watched the fight the other night
and they I did. I did. I did. I as
much as I was, I wanted to go for wild
I kind of knew what was gonna happen. But I
just think he can't beat him, Bro, he just can't.
He just can't beat this dude. Match up, man, matchups,
make fights. Match up. Oh that was a rough one.
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That was a rough one, man, But they he got smoked.
I think he a pretty good heavyweight though. Man, hes
gonna give a lot of dudes problems. Man. Yeah, it's
just like I haven't seen a heavyweight fight. Like I've
seen better fights in the last fifteen years, like like technically,
but I haven't seen a fight that got me so
excited to watch the fight in quite a while. And
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that's the power of the heavyweight. And they lived up
to it right. It was big knockouts. It was Yeah,
everybody going down ended with a t KO technical knockout
put down. You can get enough money, bro, you could
definitely money. You couldn't pay me enough money to box, bro,
after seeing what Wilder went through the other night, broy
me neither, Baby is not my sport. Hey appreciated, baby,
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You know what I'm saying. Anytime you already know, uh, y'all,
make sure y'all check out that green light pop. Man,
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talk a little Chiefs today on our Tastes today. So
last time we talked Chiefs, man, I think I said
I wasn't really worried about the Chiefs because they played
the Browns, the Ravens, the Chargers, and the Bills, which
was basically the a f C playoffs, Right, So I
know I have my own spill way. I was looking
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at it. Man, they got a head start on the
teams who they're gonna play in the postseason. Right. But
now I'm starting to be a little a little bit
concerned about the Chiefs. These are the reasons why. I
because the turnovers. Since I said that, since I talked
about them the first time, the turnovers have increased. Man,
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I think it's kind of rubbing off. It's not just
Mahomes now, it's Miko Harmon on fumble. The last two weeks,
uh Pringo had a fumble I think two weeks ago
against the Bills, So it's kind of rubbing off on
the other guys. Man, They're starting to lose fumbles. A
lot of these tip balls, all of them is not
Mahomes faults. A lot of these tip balls are starting
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to be interceptions now. And if you just see the
body language, man, you see the look on Patrick Mahomes face,
I think it's starting to get to him now. Man.
So they got a super important three games stretch coming up.
I think they almost get a week off this week
Giants at the Crib, you would get you would definitely
get a win there. It's almost like a bye week. Man.
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They're prepared. They to kind of get their Maril back up.
But the next three games the Packers, the Raiders, the Cowboys,
and that's almost like a playoff run. If you if
you come out of that, if you come out of
that three game stretch two in one, the morale might
still be where it needs to be. But if you
(02:12):
come out of that three game stretch one and two,
it may definitely be over for these Chiefs. Man. It's
I think the team is starting to believe that, like
we're sloppy football team, and nothing's going on our way
this year. So football is mental, man, You don't you
could talk to yourself and or you could believe yourself
(02:33):
all the way to the super Bowl, and you could
believe yourself all the way to the number one pick
from being bad man. So just the body language, the
morale of the team is starting to change, in my
opinion from what I see man gods starting to hang
their head, gods starting to fuss at each other. And
you didn't see those things when they lost the early
three games. Lost another tough one against the Titans, and
(02:57):
this might have been the worst loss out of all
of them. And offense did absolutely nothing. Usually the offense
keep you in the game, you make a mistake, you
come back, score a long touchdown. The offense did absolutely nothing,
and the defense didn't stop him at all. I mean,
Derrick Henry only had a hundred yards, he threw a touchdown.
I think he had a hundred yards and a touchdown.
(03:19):
Didn't play that bad on defense, but you just they
kind of just had their way with the chiefs man,
And in my opinion, it was the uglier, ugliest lost
out of all the losses. So three games stretch coming up,
for the Chiefs this next month, next four weeks. A
word for football for the Chiefs is super important. I
think it could possibly be over for the Chiefs or
(03:44):
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The leaders gotta lead. They gotta get this bad ju ju.
This this in the past when things went right for
the Chiefs. It seemed like everything went right for the Chiefs.
Tip balls hit off, a guy helmet somebody on the
Chiefs to catch it. He barely got sacked. I mean
he barely. They have fumbles loss. They just didn't have
a lot of negative energy. Man. Now a lot of
(04:04):
these tip passes at the line of scrimma just turn
their interceptions. Like I said, other guys are starting to fumble.
You gotta positively think your way out of those situations.
Definitely gonna start with Andy Reid. Patrick Mahomes gonna be
a big part of it. Man. So we're watching the
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catching phase I key to leave here. We got my
guy on today, Chris Long, y'allnois super Bowl Champ, All
that good ship, green light Poe. You know what I'm saying, Hosts,
(06:40):
all that good ship? Chris? What's up? Baby? It's the
word man A good man? How you I'm good? I'm
all eyes on Monday Night football right because we gotta
you got a couple of Baltimore guys going, We're going
head to head here. My first question, do you feel safe?
I feel really safe. Mark Andrews are one of my
other teams, and he hasn't been like putting up points
(07:01):
like that, so I'm hoping, Yeah, he hadn't been scoring touchdowns.
So I got a little cushion. It's like eight points, right,
I got got Hollywood, Hollywood, I got Andrews playing at night.
I'm saying Chris is up twenty eight points, but I'm confident.
Look if ye lamar Win like, I think he'd win.
(07:21):
One of these dudes that had twenty the other one
that had like twelve. Yeah, I got the Ravens to tonight,
but I'm probably just gonna I'm gonna probably bet the
Ravens and I don't even know what the line is, honestly,
MINDU seven? You like him straight? MINDU seven? Well, I
might tease that. I might tease that, and the under
get it to a pick them and whatever that total is,
I'm taking the under that under look that under is.
(07:43):
If you tease, it's gonna be fifty two in the half.
I love that. Do you like it? That way or
do you like the teaser coach plus thirteen and a
half under fifty two and a half. So it's in Baltimore,
tough place to play, you know, flash lights. I love that. Uh.
You know, Carson hasn't looked great yet this year. He
(08:04):
hasn't looked like awful, but he's looked really mid grade, like,
you know, like the processing has been a little slow.
I think the defense is gonna help keep him in it.
But if the Ravens get like a turnover or something,
it could get ugly. It could be like seven. You know,
I hope it don't, baby. I bet the thirteen and
a half. It's provocative. It's provocative, bro. I kind of
(08:25):
like what you're saying. But I also might just teach
it to pick him because I feel real good about
the raven It was too good for me not to
take it. Man, y'all know this is my dog. Oh
eight draft class man, we're still here. We still here, baby,
I'm saying, we're still working. Who still in the league
from our draft class? Colas Coleas dude, Sean Sean dude,
how can you be that fast and that old no offense?
(08:48):
That I mean, we're all old. But like I'm just
looking at de Shan. Oh my god, dude, that monkey
did jump on his back last game. Though I've never
seen De Sean ever do that. That's my first time
every it's the first. What was your favorite thing about that?
That that two thousand eight a year man? Man, you
(09:08):
know what, I just thought they were good dudes that
kept in touch. We had a lot of grinders in
that group. Um, you know, like I took pride in
watching you know, guys like yourself still balling at like
an incredibly high level. Kolis like dudes we knew, Um
you know Grad Mayo who's coaching in in in New England. Uh. Now,
Like there were just a bunch of good dudes in
that class. Um. I guess the big thing would be
(09:32):
it was funny going Jake Long, Chris Long one and
too so that everybody thought we were brothers. Jake had
a great career, you know, he got hurt and it
got shortened that way. But we had some good dudes.
And that I remember the Playboy All American trip. I
can remember all I got all the pictures. Yeah yeah, man,
that's what's up. That's what's up, man, So let's get
(09:54):
to it. Who the surprise team this year? Who you like?
Surprise team? Goodness gracious, you know, if the Bears figure
it out a little bit, they might be you know,
with with Fields because quite as kept he's been there.
He's been the best rookie in a lot of ways,
and in a situation that I didn't think And I
don't know about you, but I just don't think much
(10:14):
of Matt and Naggey in that program there for him
to thrive the last couple of games, you know, I don't.
I don't want the Raiders win to be fool's gold. Obviously,
they dealt a lot of ship this week because their
coach was an idiot. Uh and and you know the
things he said, uh, coming to the surface in a
short week after the Chargers game, who are very physical.
I'm not surprised by the Chargers. Speaking of surprise teams,
(10:35):
I mean, like I call on my side team. I
love watching the Chargers, uh, and I'm excited about them.
But maybe the Bears, you know, sneak in and losing
the first round. And the Bears look they're getting healthy too,
They're gonna get Dannage of faithan back. You know what
I'm saying, uh, Gift going to come back. He heard
his he heard a hamstringing practice. Even to come back.
(10:55):
He's been out like the last two games. He's gonna
come back here in a minute. So I just got
big gold in bad in the middle. So they're getting
healthy too, man. And you know they always stand on
that defense. That defense is, it's what they hang their
hat on in justin fields that game, Chris, I'm telling you, yeah,
he's pretty good, especially as it looks bro. It was
it was, it was perfect. Yeah, his stats, he gave
(11:17):
you like eight fantasy points, but he played a perfect game.
I promised you was perfect. And that's all. That's all
you want out of a kid like that. You know,
like the learning curve is steep in the NFL. I mean,
certainly there are adjustments that people pointed out coming from
Ohio State to the NFL, but the program is less
like the program than it's ever been. So, you know,
I think people might make too big a deal about well,
you know, they ran the offense a certain way at
(11:39):
Ohio State. I think the kid has been really he's
got a lot of dignity. He's dealt with the bullshit,
he's dealt with you know, sitting in that draft room
for a while. He's dealt with people criticizing him and
doubting him, and I think he's just going about his business.
So I'm really rooting for that kid man and the defense.
You said at Robert Quinn, one of my one of
my dudes from back in St. Louis is still bawling.
Khalil had like eight tackles the sad you know, they're
(12:00):
they're physical on defense. Yeah, they got a good defense
over there. So if justin, if just at first, who's second,
what's that? What's what's the next rookie quarterback? Looking looking promising? Man?
Oh man, you know, I go down the line. I
think the Zach Wilson week against UM Tennessee was fool's gold.
I mean, you know, he put up good numbers, but
I think, uh, I think his ball placement wasn't great.
(12:22):
If you watch that plays from exactly uh, and you know,
people jump out of the gym for that sort of thing.
But I look at UM what Trevor Lawrence is doing
down in in Jacksonville, and honestly, as bad as they've been,
he's showed hell how to promise. You know, some of
these balls a zip he has on some of these balls.
You know what I know it. You know, like if
they can stabilize down there, which is probably gonna be
(12:43):
the next coach, Uh, he's gonna be okay. And mac
Jones is just gonna be in a good situation. Now.
I don't love the way Josh mcdannon's is calling games,
but I think they know what they need to do, uh,
to stay in ball games and maybe get better as
the year goes on. You know how they go there,
they learn as they goes on. They say the playoffs
or the season doesn't start to l after Halloween, so
(13:03):
it's starting any time now exactly? He really say he
really say uh to November after Halloween. November? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I say mac jons though, just because that situation, Man,
you're in a tremendous situation. You gotta a great offensive coordinator. Man.
He might be struggling to find your way, but he
gonna find it because he always found He found tebow wave, right,
(13:25):
he find everybody wave, man, So I think he got
a good defense man Judo flying around that secondary. It's
gonna turn the corner at any moment. So, yeah, they
learned this situation there with Bill Man, so I put
I put him at two. I put Trevor at three
because I called one of those games two and Trevor
it's it's it looked good to man. He just needs
his team to make plays for him. Well, I'll tell
(13:47):
you what they're not gonna do. And I don't know
if you heard this quote from Urban Meyer. He said
this morning and he plans to rush for two fifty
game and throw for two fifty game. And I said, well,
you're not gonna be there a long, buddy, because that's
happened like thirty times in the history of the league.
And asked, right now, heyer need to stay away from
all mix right now? Man, Yeah, they need to put
him in in the office and shut the door. To
(14:10):
set the door real quick. Man, all right, So what team?
What team? What team? Gotta losing record, but they're gonna
be just finally, Oh, let me look at this for
sec keep. That's a really good question. Um, you know,
the look at it for that? Why you look? Because
because I was the gate, I think it's Kansas City.
But I don't think Kansas City is going to figure
(14:31):
it out the way they figured it out two years
ago defensively, I think they have some issues that they
didn't address offensively and defensively that are going to hurt them.
I think that when you have Patrick Mahomes, you and
I agree, like anybody, you can beat anybody any week.
But they could be like an eleven and six team. Now.
I don't think the first five games here at two
and three is representative them as a whole. But I
(14:53):
also think the struggles are real. I mean, like, I
don't think they're the same team as they were before.
I'm looking it maybe, um this, I don't think the
Colts are okay. Um, you know, I I worry about
the Colts. We're talking about Carson Wentz. I don't think
they're gonna be okay. I hope the Viking no. So
(15:14):
I've been kind of people on my pod think I
hate Sam Frank because we were rivals, but I really don't.
I just don't think they're that good, dude. I just
think like people overvalue wins against San Francisco. I think
they're a very solid team, but until they figure out
the quarterback, I'm not afraid of them. You know, Um,
I think the Seahawks maybe eventually are a little bit
more dangerous than the record shows. But I just don't
(15:35):
trust them. And then Russell there eight, Russ gonna eight,
I definitely don't trust you, yeah, exactly. So he's gonna
be out what six eight weeks? Russell? So it's probably
more like six if Gino and I haven't looked at
their schedule, you know, can split these games down the middle,
you know, like, yeah, it's too three years ago, when
(15:56):
Drew Breese got hurt, it was the same type injury.
Was Aaron Donald too, was most dangerous high five in football,
put him out for six eight weeks I think it was. Yeah. Yeah,
they stabilized and then they got back in it and
made a run. Yeah that was That wasn't Geno though,
That was Teddy, and I like Teddy better than Gino. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
(16:18):
So the Broncos maybe straight they went against that Black
and Blue Division. Man, they had some hard, physical games
against the Ravens and Pittsburgh. But if I say one
man a team, bad record, they're gonna be just fine.
I gotta ride with the Chiefs. Y'all them played Chargers,
Brown's Ravens and Builds, like, yeah, them all them your
(16:43):
playoff teams right there, y'all don't already looked at all
of them. Y'all see how they're gonna play all in
the playoffs. I think that's the best thing that can
happen in Kansas City. Y'all see these teams right now,
you know exactly how they're gonna play you in the playoffs.
You got fourteen fourteen weeks to find an answer to
that defense. Everybody on the same thing on them. Man,
So to the Tiefs right there, and you tell me,
(17:05):
nobody scares me outside of Kelsey and Hill. And I
feel like there's guys catching football for them that I've
never heard of, and and that's a problem. And then
in the secondary you saw last night they just picked
on Sorenson. They don't have a great pass rush outside
of Chris Jones right now. They're not getting everything they
want out of frank Um and they got to use
him at the end, and I think that messes up
their whole flow. So they got a lot of work
(17:26):
to do, and they're gonna do they do. They don't
get me wrong, I know they got a lot of
work to do. I just if you looked at the
glass half full, you would say these are teams that
they're gonna play in the playoffs. They play them, they
know how they're gonna play them. They gotta kind of
got a little head start, you know what I'm saying,
to the playoffs. So you know, they got a whole
bunch of injuries. Man, you gotta figure out on defense.
You all gotta figure it out on offense. Somebody needs
(17:48):
to make some plays. Miko Harmon out there, alligator arm
and everything yesterday. But man, you know they do, they
do have a lot of work to do. Uh, Cardinals,
Cardinals best team in football right now? Man, you know
who I really like? I really and I'm not being reactive. Um,
you know, the Bucks are sneaking up on people because
(18:09):
it's amazing. The NFC South is so the markets are
so weird that they're hiding Tom Brady. Like nobody watched
that Atlanta game a couple of weeks ago. Nobody watched
that game yesterday. He threw five touchdowns. He's sneaking up
on people. Another team that's sneaking up on people until
last night is the Bills. You know they were playing
a lot of cheek spots, man, Like you know, like
teams that you know, I wasn't watching and so everybody
(18:31):
took that Pittsburgh game and they were like, well, you
know that one week, one fluky ship that goes on.
I think people took it to me that they're not
the team they were last year. But they got a
lot better up front. You saw the way they rotated
those guys. That reminds me of our group in St. Louis.
And when you're like that and you've got an offenses
and score points. Now, when you have a lead, you
(18:52):
can get after people. Eponessa not better, you know. I
like their whole d line and I think they took
steps to get better. To me, as much as I
want to say the Chargers because I love them, I
think they'd be a hell of a jump for them
to go from inexperienced postseason team to a team that
you got to worry about winning the Super Bowl. Now.
I could be eat my words, and I hope I
am because I love them. But I think the Bills
are my favorite team um to get there right now.
(19:16):
So that's the Bills, the Bucks, the Chargers, and the Cardinals.
I heard you say, I just don't buy the Browns
quite yet, like to win it all, but the streaky
they played great one week, then they give up forty
something one week, you know what I'm saying. So, I
don't know, I don't know who the who the Browns
defense is yet. So out of them four teams, though,
who your m v P. So it's funny Justin Herbert,
(19:39):
if they win thirteen games, is gonna win the m
v P. To me, I mean, that guy's just he's
got the wow factor. I mean, everybody loves watching him play.
He seems like and you know what I love about
them and you as a former player, like with the
attitude you had as a player, Like they're just competitive, bro,
they just they don't they don't blink. They're like, okay,
fourth and fourth and two, we're going for it. Backed up. Hey, seven,
(20:00):
we throw the ball to to Mike Evans. He drops
the ball or not Mike Kevin, sorry, Keenan Allen. He
drops the ball. They go right back to him on
fourth and seven. You know, like the fade that Justin
Herbert check to in the Kansas City game, like they
just Brandon Staley's attitude is real. Um, so I think
if you're doing a most Valuable player to his team,
it's Lamar Jackson. Now I'm not saying he's having a great,
(20:23):
great year, but I'm saying, if you take Lamar Jackson
off the Ravens there, the Patriots are worse. And so
I think, you know, like for a team that could
beat anybody any week because of that one player. He's
my most valuable player. But I think justin Herbert probably
wins it if they win thirteen games. I like it.
I like it, I like it. I like Herbert Man. Yeah,
I might have to say I might have to say
(20:46):
Kyler just because I feel like if you take him
off the Cardinals, they're a totally different team. They probably
had one or two wins right now. You're probably right.
I mean, the defense has improved. They're they're they're they're
manning up more right to pensibly and they're bringing more
pressure um and and they got more pass rush. But yeah,
he creates so much for them out of He makes
(21:08):
chicken soup out of chicken ship all the time. Hey,
it's too early for a Super Bowl prediction, right, Yeah,
well mine's already. I don't know about dead in the water,
is it what you said? I think I had the
chiefs of the Rams, But do you like that? No more?
That still can happen. I mean, it still can happen.
(21:29):
I don't want to go back on it. Um. It's
these these are tough, man, because like I really, you
don't even deserve any credit when you get it right
because you're guessing, like everybody's guessing until I guess. Last year,
I guess they're right. It was easy and it happened.
What you that's what you have the score? Did you
have the score? Now I have a score I got.
I got the two teams right though then I then
(21:50):
I bet on the winter and I lost my money. Right,
So never again when I better get Tommy. But I
like timing them to go back this year. AFC gonna
get Ricky, man, I don't know it's it's not gonna
be who people think it's gonna be. So I think
at the beginning of the year we thought it was
gonna be the Chiefs. Now we think it's gonna be
somebody else. Yeah, I think the Chiefs gonna do it again. Man,
(22:11):
you think they've been I think they go wild card.
They go to hard road this time. And if the
defense can improve mean a lot to me. When when
you see teams and you they kind of show their hand.
They gotta show their hand to you. Now they kind
of show their hand to you. Now you come, you
the counterpuncher in the second fight. I just like that
about the Chiefs. I like that about Andy Reid. I
(22:33):
don't know what it is, man, I just I believe
in them boys. Man. We gonna see though. Man, By
the way, do you watched the fight the other night
and they I did. I did. I did. I as
much as I was, I wanted to go for wild
I kind of knew what was gonna happen. But I
just think he can't beat him, Bro, he just can't.
He just can't beat this dude. Match up, man, matchups,
make fights. Match up. Oh that was a rough one.
(22:57):
That was a rough one, man, But they he got smoked.
I think he a pretty good heavyweight though. Man, hes
gonna give a lot of dudes problems. Man. Yeah, it's
just like I haven't seen a heavyweight fight. Like I've
seen better fights in the last fifteen years, like like technically,
but I haven't seen a fight that got me so
excited to watch the fight in quite a while. And
(23:18):
that's the power of the heavyweight. And they lived up
to it right. It was big knockouts. It was Yeah,
everybody going down ended with a t KO technical knockout
put down. You can get enough money, bro, you could
definitely money. You couldn't pay me enough money to box, bro,
after seeing what Wilder went through the other night, broy
me neither, Baby is not my sport. Hey appreciated, baby,
(23:39):
You know what I'm saying. Anytime you already know, uh, y'all,
make sure y'all check out that green light pop. Man,
it's who the biggest guest you had on the green
light so far? Godly biggest guest? Um, Well, I know
I'm having Chris Staple. Then soon I think, look, look
he's always going down on the green light. Man, y'all
make sure y'all check it out, baby, Hey appreciated Chris
Long We catch it eight mm hmm
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