December 16, 2024 • 53 mins
Mack, David and Bev dive into Season 1, Episode 4 of 7th Heaven: No Funerals And A Wedding to discuss their thoughts of the episode, funny behind-the-scenes stories and David hands out the acting MVP of the episode.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Oh, I hate working out.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
You guys like I don't like working out at a gym.
I just don't.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
I just don't enjoy it.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
But nobody enjoys working out until it starts working and
then it's enjoyable.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Yeah, I have.
Speaker 4 (00:17):
I enjoy working out until I start getting into shape.
Speaker 5 (00:20):
I warre playing, like doing sports and things like that,
until and then they just you get in shape without noticing.
Speaker 6 (00:28):
Or you can just go do stupid things like stupid
Joe's that will like try to kill you and make
you do extreme things and then realize that you shouldn't
do any of such things, which also does not motivate
you to do anything at the gym.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
Is that how you justify it that it's a workout
I did.
Speaker 6 (00:44):
I kind of thought that I was going to do
Special Forces and it was gonna be work out and
I was gonna get fit.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
I didn't think I want a six pack. I'm going
to go do Special Forces. I'm going to kill myself
in the desert.
Speaker 6 (01:00):
Like fit then with like special Forces. No, I did
not get I did not get a six back.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
I got a lot of bruises, I got a bit. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
No, watch your form. My form was.
Speaker 6 (01:20):
You know what's funny though, is like I was there,
there was one point where we had to do the.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
I don't even know what it's called.
Speaker 6 (01:29):
It was murderous, but we had to do this like
whole like we had to go through the mud pit
and through the tunnel and jump into the water and
pull ourselves out and then go.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
To obstacle course.
Speaker 6 (01:40):
And I when I was trying to do sit ups,
I couldn't do them because like I felt like my
insides were tearing out because I've had two three sea
sections and none of the guys knew what to do
with me. So as I'm like crying because I'm like,
am my insides are gonna burst, and They're like, go
to the next so they just send me to the
next person is the next person and then finally they
just were like just sit down.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
And that is my experience. It was bad. That was
day one.
Speaker 5 (02:05):
I mean, exercise is great when you have to, like
I got really fit galloping racesources because like, look, you're
not if you're feel like your muscles are about to
give out, like you never let go when it's the
hardest to stay on right, because that's like anything, that's
when it hurts.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
The most to fall or something, so you have to.
You're like, oh my god, I'm gonna die.
Speaker 5 (02:23):
I don't going forty miles an hour, you know.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
Oh yeah, So do you have one of those mechanical
bowl things? No exercise back.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
No, I exercise now with like a pitchfork mostly, oh.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Right on only farms, not only farms.
Speaker 5 (02:41):
And I lift things. And like I was telling that
I volunteered to help people move when they.
Speaker 6 (02:46):
Know she's been very sweet and wanting to help me
move some of the furniture.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
That I sitting in the workout, and it's but having.
Speaker 6 (02:53):
Just moved, like we we did. I think I did
like forty thousand steps and seventeen miles in one day,
going up and down three flights of stairs. And I
think it said I went up like seventy flights of
stairs that day.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Kids are a great exercise too.
Speaker 6 (03:10):
I'm still to get a six pack from that either,
which I feel totally jypped.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
But anyway, chat with it.
Speaker 6 (03:16):
I think we should. Why don't we do an intro?
Why don't we tell everybody who we are, what we're doing.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Hey, everybody, you have clicked on catching up with the
Camdens welcome, thanks for joining us again. We are in
the middle of our rewatch series where we're rewatching the
good old days on the show.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
We're on episode four now.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Yes, So if you joined us, if you're listening, if
you're watching, whatever platform you're on, do the things. There's
stuff you could do to help us out. Like it,
dislike it, hate it, don't love it. No, don't get
any of those rage posts.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
Do all the things.
Speaker 6 (03:48):
No, do all the nice things. And by the way,
I'm Beverly Mitchell.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Who are you.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
I'm I'm David Gallagher.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
I'm McKenzie Ross.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Yes, and we are so excited you.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (04:01):
We're on episode four, like David said, and that is
no no wedding.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
No is it no funerals in a wedding, no funerals.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
There's a wedding in it, and there are no funerals
in it because.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
That's the funeral.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
And that's where we begin.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Yes, that's where we begin.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
The wedding doesn't take up a lot begin with.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Grandma has just passed away.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Yes, and what was her character's name other than Grandma?
Speaker 1 (04:30):
It was grandma.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
She certainly had a name.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
I thought it was just Grandma.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
Thanks for calling us all out for not remembering that.
Speaker 5 (04:36):
No, so there's in the end of this episode, there's
some there's a comment about someone being named after Grandma,
and they never really said what her name was, and
I was wondering whether it was a baby named Grandma.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
I'm looking it up.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
We're looking it up because you know who remembers Ruth.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Oh I didn't know. Yeah, I didn't know you.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
I was okay, Oh my goodness.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
Yeah, how the table hold on though.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Grandma Ruth.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Seem as Jenny.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
That's right, Yes, actually that is correct. God, you did
it faster than I did, Jared.
Speaker 6 (05:26):
So we start off with the funeral, and we also
meet some other cast members.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
They handled tablets.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
Are there for for a quick.
Speaker 6 (05:34):
Intro, right, and then as we're kind of leaving the funeral,
Grandpa takes.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Off, does not cope with loss very well, splits in.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
A hurry, leaving Annie distressed.
Speaker 5 (05:47):
I don't even think he stayed for the whole He
didn't stay for the reception, No, just just the funeral.
And he catches a cab and is like, see you,
I'm going back to Phoenix.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
Yeah. A tough day of work for me because I
had to be asleep in the in the limo, in
the limo.
Speaker 6 (06:01):
Also, by the way, yeah, I remember being excited that
we had like a limo on set and we got
to like be in the limo. I just remember like
that was like exciting. Does anyone even use limos anymore?
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Like is that a thing? I think they exist?
Speaker 3 (06:16):
The only ones I ever see driving around La are
like the big truck ones and the van ones and
the bus ones.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
That memory the nineties were like, yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
They were more uh the car limos.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Yeah, town car.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Town cars and stretch limousines were more of a regular
thing to see.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
Back in the day.
Speaker 6 (06:38):
So we all roll up to the Camden household. Ruthie's asleep,
Simon just sleep.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
The Munchkins they were for.
Speaker 5 (06:46):
So that's when they designate that we are the younger
set because they refer to us as the Munchkins, and
you and Mary and Barrier are the only ones actually
awake conscious.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
You still get a cute.
Speaker 6 (07:00):
Nickname because we weren't cute, So that's fine. But I
do remember that.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Dress, by the way, I loved that dress that I
wore in that episode.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
I don't remember the suit that I was in.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Yeah, it was hot.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
It was probably shoulder pads.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
It was definitely shoulders.
Speaker 6 (07:19):
But yeah, so we go uh home and there is
everyone there and I think I call it the the castrole.
I can see the cast roll patrol because there is
just a.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Lot of food.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Everyone's lined up at the reverend's house two mourn and
to support their UH church family with food.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Yes, and there's a lot of it.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
And in this uh set up with the with the
castroll patrol, we set up Simon's gag for the episode,
which is that he is now faced with mortality. He's
determined to figure out the physical location of Heaven. He's
determined to like get to the botom of it. So
while Simon sets off on his mission to discover the
(08:05):
Heaven's geographical location, we also are introduced to our key
guest stars of the episode, which is the married couple
that is kind of like grossly in love still like
they're having their honeymoon phase like months in or at
least they're putting on like they are staying very like
nuzzily and kind of stuff.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
Like that couple.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Yeah, not not lovely.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
So that's awkward.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Yeah, but I do I love front.
Speaker 6 (08:37):
I love that because only as Simon would I love
that storyline of Simon's way of dealing with death in
trying to understand like, okay, you say they go to heaven?
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Where is heaven?
Speaker 6 (08:50):
It was so Simon, like it couldn't It was like
a perfect storyline for him.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Yeah, it's the kind of it's the kind of storylines
that I that I'm really happy that I got to
to do particate for my character. So, like it's cute
and it's innocent in its premise, but then it gives
the show an opportunity to actually say something about the
question and and to hopefully say something interesting about the question,
(09:16):
which I think they actually do in the end.
Speaker 6 (09:17):
Yeah, and in a way to for for other kids,
you know, to have breached that conversation with like your family.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
You know.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
Sure, it's a great setup for the conversation that it
that any young kid might ask, which is you tell
me about this place?
Speaker 4 (09:33):
Where is it? You know this?
Speaker 3 (09:34):
And so how do you breach a metaphysical conversation with
a child? I'm going to find out soon, I guess
I have a kid. But like you know, it's uh,
it's a it's a cool little storyline. Again, Simon's gags
are pretty solid.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Yeah, earlier.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
So so after this, Simon.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Gets the first glimpse of trouble with the newly I
want to call them the newly led couple, but they
I think they established that they've been married for for
months now and uh, but they're but their their whole
spiel in the beginning about how deeply infatuated they are
with each other seems to be seems to break when
(10:14):
when I catch the the woman crying.
Speaker 6 (10:17):
Well, I think at first you were like, wow, she
must be really upset about Grandma.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
Yeah, exactly, like.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
She does to pretend that she's actually but that's what.
Speaker 6 (10:25):
That's what your your your response is And then Eric
knows better and goes to invest.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Simon is very observant but but still innocent. Yes exactly,
and so things go over his head, but you know,
he gives it a good A.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Good one for you. Yeah, yeah, And it's.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
A very modern moment.
Speaker 6 (10:44):
The next part is where Lucy and Mary are having
conversations and Mary wants to break up with Jeff and
Lucy just doesn't understand, like why because he smells.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
It smells so good you could smell his cologne from
across the room.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Which is it?
Speaker 3 (10:59):
Which is called smell Maxing and that's something kids do
these days. Really, yeah, over spray cologne. This is like
an internet cologne whole thing.
Speaker 5 (11:11):
That sounds like what a lot of kids even though
and remember the axe body spray that the teenagers, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
The modern version of that, Yeah, exactly, So we're taking
it way back.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Yeah, she's just romantic and so it's like I could
smell this cologne from here.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
How romantic?
Speaker 1 (11:33):
All right, what happened next?
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Well, so the next thing that happens is that Eric
goes into his office which is off of the foyer,
and he finds the husband of the newlywed couple, and
he confesses that he is.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
A big already married.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
He's already married.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
So he's already married, which means he's married to two women.
It's very explicit that his old marriage was over, just
not the paperwork hadn't gone through, and his new marriage
is like real to him, but he can't communicate this
to his wife, who he thinks couldn't understand that like
the paperwork, I mean, I.
Speaker 6 (12:09):
Would not understand if someone was like, oh, by the way,
forgot to tell you, but I've already been married.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
But like I really.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Do love you, it's late in the game to tell
someone you've already been married if you are married and married.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
But it could have been a shotgun wedding.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
But ultimately his sin is is getting married, like being
in love with her and marrying her faster than the
paperwork from his old marriage goes through, like he was
divorced but the but the paperwork didn't go through. It
just seems like a contrived sin to me, I don't know,
it seems like something that should be very easily communicated
(12:44):
between adults. So when I saw that, I was like,
I don't understand what the big deal is. That was
my take with being honest about it.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Wait to tell someone why it's a.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
Contrived big deal is what I felt. And I thought
it was awkward.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Well, yeah it's awkward.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
You never like held something off from your spouse.
Speaker 6 (13:04):
And just.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
Yeah it's snow. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (13:10):
I think I share too much all the time, Like
I'm going to overshare, Like I think there's things where
like Michael just would rather not know. He's just like,
I don't I don't need to know that. I'm like, hey,
so yeah, guys are like that, though, Yeah, what that
they don't want to know everything?
Speaker 4 (13:28):
It's like, you know, certain things could be need to know, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
I sort of enjoyed telling people things that they don't
want to I.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
We know this, we know this, we are aware. Okay.
Speaker 6 (13:40):
The next part is when Jeff comes in and he's
talking to Matt and he's trying to get advice of
telling Jeff not to be so cleany because you know,
Mary kind of is taking on the like the boys
role typically because usually the girls are very cleaning.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
And Jeff says, the first really sex this thing in
the episode, which is the guys can't be clinging, right,
is not what he says. Men aren't clean. That's not
a guy. Men can't be clingy by default. It's clearly
not true the way he's been written in the episode,
because he was quite clean clingy.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
So Annie is crying in her room.
Speaker 5 (14:18):
She's having a hard time because obviously her mother has
died and her father is totally nowhere to be found
and completely emotionally unavailable. Ruthie wanders into you know see
what mom is up to, and they tried to remember
Grandma together through this sweet little song.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Don't don't ruin The payoff for the episode mag with
our mystical number.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
But you're trying to kill me with your eyes.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
I was trying to kill you with my eyes. I
was just looking at you.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
I was just looking at you.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (14:55):
So then my sweet little moment with my mom remembering
Grandma is cut short because Renee, Matt's pregnant friend walks
in and it's baby time, so uh, she has to
go to the hospital. And then Matt decides that he's
going to step up to the plate and be her
(15:16):
support person through this.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Because the husband's at a comic book convention where is
not married?
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Right, but where's the father?
Speaker 5 (15:25):
We established he was a nice guy who got this
job at the church, and then he's.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
Such a comic book convention.
Speaker 5 (15:31):
Oh right, because they had because they did have those
in the nineties.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Yeah, they did.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
They started comic con like thirty years ago or longer
or something like that.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
It's been going on.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
As long as you say thirty years ago. You realize
that he's in the nineties.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
That's like they want to talk about it.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
I do not want to talk, let me not.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
I'm just like, I think it's funny that the reason
why he's not there is because they they said he
was in a comic book.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Did they really say that he was at that or
did you just make that up?
Speaker 4 (15:57):
No? No, why would I make that up?
Speaker 6 (15:59):
Okay, On that note, I think we are going to
take a break.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
We will be right back.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
There's a moment where I'm pestering the limo driver about
with my heaven investigation. I'm like, you've seen a lot
of dead bodies, tell me where this place is, you know,
And he's like trying to eat, you know, and he's like,
leave me alone, kid, basically, and then like you know,
they need a ride to the hospital, and he's like, oh,
I'm a driver, get me out of here.
Speaker 6 (16:32):
And then I think we come back and we find
Lucy crying in the hallway.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Yes, this was a very sweet scene.
Speaker 6 (16:39):
This was actually kind of fun to kind of relive,
and I actually do remember it because I remember it
actually being very poignant in the sense that Lucy's upset
because she says it feels like there's a party going
on and Grandma wasn't invited. And Eric's response is, this
isn't really a party, this is kind of like a
celebration of life, and Lucy has the response that no,
(17:05):
I'm talking about life and how it doesn't feel right
that Grandma's not here anymore. Life goes on without her.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Without her.
Speaker 6 (17:14):
And I also come later in my life when my
friend passed away, that that comment actually kept resonating in
my mind of how it just felt wrong when someone
passes away and this whole thing of life goes on,
and it's a very difficult thing to reconcile when you feel.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Like the world has stopped.
Speaker 6 (17:37):
Absolutely, it's those acting scenes that are like more than
just a scene, and a scene that like really has
I've held onto for a very very long time, and
I think the way it was written and just those
moments was like a really special and it was pretty
much I feel it. But rewatching it brought back so much.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Yeah, it's early, it's early in the episode, but mvp
aword for this episode goes to bev. This is my
favorite scene in the episode by a mile. It is
the best. It is the strongest acting in this in
the episode. Your speech about how it's not fair that
life moves on is moving and it's honest and it's
(18:22):
beautifully executed, and you have easily the best moment in
this episode. Good Yeah, true story though, watch it. It's
solid and that's and that stuff is not. I mean,
there's emotional scenes that we have to do that are
maybe less impactful or seem less important, but this this
scene was emotional and had a lot of weight and
(18:45):
had something to say, and you did all of that
beautifully and honestly, and so you get the award this
episode for sure.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Thank you that.
Speaker 6 (18:56):
Beautiful Hey, you know what, it's uh wonderful that we all,
at one point through the season's get these moments and
these magical very well written and very well set up,
because I think it's very easy to overwrite situations like this,
(19:17):
it's very easy to like overperform and all of those things.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
And it was simple and sweet and it was one
of those that I was actually proud of. So thank you. Now,
moving on, what do what you do next?
Speaker 3 (19:32):
To dial in on something important? They really did a
great job.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Yeah, m thank you. What happens next?
Speaker 2 (19:41):
I love Simon.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
So Simon is now is continuing his investigation on the
location of heaven and he sits down with Mary's clinging boyfriend.
And what makes me laugh about the scene is that
they play into like a bit of his like kind
of jockey persona and and me being this like smart,
(20:04):
inquisitive kid, and then he says something like I'm making
all of this these kind of like scientific points about
how like, look, space is out there, we can account
for space, we know what's beyond this guy the whole
up there arguments out the window like that doesn't make
any sense, so like where is this place? And then
he he says this kind of stonery thing where he's
(20:26):
like maybe it's in like the fifth dimension man, And
I'm like interesting, like it's it's like just kind of
a metaphysical like non answer, just enough to like to
kind of throw Simon off a little bit and kind
of make him think.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
And it's it's cute and it's stupid, it's funny.
Speaker 5 (20:46):
So Mary and Annie are in the kitchen and Mary's
she's kind of saying that like it's sort of annoying,
but she also sort of appreciates it about Eric that
when things are wrong, he always wants to talk about it,
and sometimes she'd rather just not talk about it. And
Annie says a comment to Mary about, you know, jokingly,
like you know, thanks for being so wise, but you know,
(21:09):
but it's cute, I mean, and there's just reflecting on
which in the episode later on how they have different
styles of handling conflict that are in the end you
see that they're complimentary.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
And that's yeah, that's that scene. That's that scene.
Speaker 6 (21:27):
This is another typical Lucy moment. Jeff comes out to
talk to Lucy and consoler and feel, you know, be sweet,
and Lucy inserts foot in mouth like always and totally apologizes,
saying that she's sorry that Mary broke up with him,
which has not yet happened, right, And then Lucy's kind
(21:49):
of like, uh oh, we are big trouble.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Which then sets him off on his mission to like
maybe take the clinging advice and.
Speaker 6 (21:57):
Be cool or something right, And then all of a
sudden he's trying to be like like distant and but also,
by the way, when I also, I don't know if
it's in the scene right right after this, then he
as he's trying to be distant, also becomes clumsy. He
like starts like falling all over the place. I mean,
I thought that was an interesting choice.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
It's supposed to be like a cute, charming kind of
like he tries to be too cool, but he bumbles
it because he's not because he is clinging.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Got it?
Speaker 4 (22:24):
Sensitive or whatever. I think that's the play.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Got it?
Speaker 6 (22:27):
But yeah, I was like, so just because you're trying
to be distant means you're clumsy?
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Got it? But yeah, that makes sense. Okay. You guys
ever had a moment where you let something slip accidentally?
Speaker 4 (22:36):
Shouldn't have?
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Oh I am ween?
Speaker 6 (22:39):
Oh yeah, mag how about that one.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
It's a vault. Shut up, David.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
I was gonna make inappropriate jokes.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Yes, I got. I will absolutely admit that.
Speaker 6 (22:59):
I I am definitely one for opening my mouth sometimes
when I should.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Yeah, not you.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
I was like, are you doing about me?
Speaker 2 (23:09):
I wasn't agreeing with that. You don't. You're pretty good.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
I have no filter, that's true, but that's okay. That's
why we love you. So we accept it and love you.
Speaker 6 (23:19):
I love everything about you, so don't worry about it.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Thanks.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
David always thinks before he speaks.
Speaker 6 (23:26):
He's got that great filter. And Mac and I we
were missing it.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
It was mouthpum first, clean up later.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Should we break forgiveness?
Speaker 4 (23:40):
You know, Look, it's been great, but we need a break.
We'll be right back.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
It sounds like you're breaking up with them.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
It's not you. It's true. We'll be right back.
Speaker 6 (23:56):
So now we land at the hospital with Matt and Renee,
and previous to this, Eric said, you know, this is
probably gonna be better than birth control, because he's gonna
see it's like.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
An aside thing to himself to any that is.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
About to vomit. I mean, you could see is just
losing it.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
At some point talking to Barry.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
I remember saying, like I could distinctly, I could tell
when I think Barry's like goofing on the content of
the scene as opposed to taking it seriously as Matt,
like kind of making fun of himself or making fun
of Matt. I feel like this is one of those
moments where he's like hyper ventilating in the hospital and
and and I just know Barry too well, so maybe
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it's that that's coloring it. But like I could see
Barry like having too much fun, like hyperventilating and being
all shocked at the at the birth scene. But then
he as the birth really happens, and I think he
does a great job of bringing it back when it counts.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
So we'll get to that later. Yeah, he leaves the room.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
Yeah, he kind of freaks out. He leaves the room
and and goes to the call.
Speaker 5 (25:08):
I feel like there's a general theme in this episode
of people feeling like they need someone to be there
for them but not being able to reach them.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
Yes, it's exactly the theme of this episode, Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Which is cool.
Speaker 5 (25:20):
And then at the end, you know, they sort of
realize that, you know, they had everything they needed within them.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
So then we get back to our our guest couple
who are in their extended honeymoon phase that is in
full meltdown, and they are they're trying to hash out
this this issue non issue of paperwork and which is
more about honesty and communication obviously, and so uh and
(25:51):
and but in this moment they don't get very far
because then the gag with with Eric becomes that like
he keeps trying to get out of the room because
obviously he has this very important pressing family issue to
deal with with the funeral proceedings kind of ending at
his house, and he can't get out of this counseling
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session with this couple to to go be present for
the people who need him, who particularly Annie, who is
who's kind of feeling abandoned continuously.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Over the course from her father.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Yes and then by and so she ends up spending
most of the time alone in the episode, which is
which is sad, and that's the the heart of the
episode is really Annie's grief over the loss of her mother.
But as you say so eloquently in your scene, life
moves on anyway without you, and so as as life
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is hurriedly moving forward and all these other things, external
things are happening to everybody in the family, she is
stuck in that grief moment by herself and is immobilized.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
In a way.
Speaker 6 (27:05):
I didn't even realize until just now that like the
episode has death, it has birth, and it has like union.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
Yeah, it does all the things, all the things.
Speaker 6 (27:15):
It was like, literally, as we're just sitting here talking
about it, I'm like, wow, I didn't put all that together.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
Yeah, No, it's it's a well, it's a it is
a a well crafted, like thematic episode from our early days.
This is I mean, I think this is when the
show was was doing the most.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
We're gonna.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
We'll see as as that progresses, how long we really
hold up that standard. I think this is a great
We're setting a great standard on the early episodes with
our with our content and theming around the the given
emotional lessons, you know, absolutely so as as Annie's is
left alone in her room to mourn, she reaches out
(27:55):
to her dad, who she feels left her stranded, which
he definitely did in that moment of grief where the
family should be coming together and he won't even pick
up the phone.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
And it's a sweet and honest.
Speaker 6 (28:09):
Moment, great moment from Catherine, And just like she was
always so.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
Good, Catherine's performance through these first few episodes is stellar's.
She's absolutely stellar as the family matriarch and set in
the bar high for us in these early episodes, and
she does it all very gracefully.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
It's awesome.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
Oh, I do love this.
Speaker 6 (28:33):
This is also a perfect example of when Matt is
calling the house to try to get a hold of
Annie because he needs her, and Mary steps up and
is like, uh uh, you better pull it together.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
You got to handle this.
Speaker 6 (28:46):
I'm handling everything at home, you handle everything there, and
it is kind of like, it's.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
A great line.
Speaker 6 (28:54):
Everyone's stepping up and also her being pretty stern, like
very being like, oh no, oh, You're gonna figure it out.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
And with the theme of abandonment, Yeah, this is the
moment where Matt has stepped up to be there for
his friend, and he plays with the idea of abandoning her,
that he can't be here for this.
Speaker 4 (29:14):
It's not his kid, it's not his problem. Might need
to get out of here. I can't deal with it.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
And Mary tells him what he needs to hear to
get back in the room and be there for his friend.
Speaker 6 (29:23):
Right, And then I think Lucy comes in and tries
to be to share the bad news that she had
ratted Mary out and then gets very frustrated. And as
Lucy does, she does not actually tell Mary what happened,
but bumbles and Huffson goes out the.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Door, slams the door and breaks the glass.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Do I break the glass?
Speaker 2 (29:48):
You can hear a glass shatter?
Speaker 1 (29:50):
I was like, did I break something? Am I that strong?
That's awesome?
Speaker 2 (29:53):
I think.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
So as Matt hangs up the phone with this advice
to step up and be there for his friend, you
hear the that the doctor is being paged over over
the megaphone at the hospital, and so in that moment,
he decides to answer the call to go back to
his friend, and that could be a bit of foreshadowing
into Matt's future in hospital work. You know, going into
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the medical field and stuff like that, that this that
this becomes a calling in a way.
Speaker 5 (30:21):
Eric is like, you know, pretty consistently detained by this
couple having their marriage of important marriage crisis. And as
he's finally finished dealing with them, they're exiting, Simon's out
there waiting and he's.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
Got with a clipboard.
Speaker 5 (30:35):
He with the clipboard and he looks like he's like, well,
thank you, you know, thank you for coming. And he's
he's basically acting like he's Eric's assistant.
Speaker 4 (30:42):
I'm like pulling the entire Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Yeah, and then so do you think that there's a heaven?
Do you think that there is a separate heaven for dogs?
Speaker 1 (30:50):
And is a good question?
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Yeah, and it was.
Speaker 5 (30:52):
It was really cute, and Simon looks very professional and
he's trying to just be.
Speaker 4 (30:58):
All this cue.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
By the way, I don't think any of this. I'm
not I'm not winning the MVP Award for any.
Speaker 4 (31:04):
Of these gags.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
No, No, all of this stuff is very he's just
so stuff. All my stuff is very cute, if not
a little rushed. But that's a that's just me critiquing
myself at eleven years old.
Speaker 4 (31:19):
To take your time man. So then we get back
around to Jeff.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
Is Jeff right, Yes, Jeff's storyline where he is is
now in full alpha sigma mode.
Speaker 4 (31:33):
Maybe I don't know.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
He's trying to be cool guy that doesn't need attention
from the ladies.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
And so he's because he's suddenly busy.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
Right, and which makes him come out as awkward and
clumsy and all of these other things as he tries
to to impress Mary by being disinterested.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
Which, by the way, she doesn't like.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
It's so transparent and the way. The thing that I
think is redeeming about the sketch the gag is that
is that it they do it in a transparent, goofy way,
but not transparent for the audience.
Speaker 4 (32:04):
It's transparent to Mary.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
So Mary can see through it, and she's you know,
hipped to his game and thinks it's.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
Does she think it's cute?
Speaker 3 (32:12):
Like she she kind of smiles about it, like he's like, oh,
he's he's.
Speaker 4 (32:17):
Leaving me alone, which is what I wanted, but also
like he's bad at it.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
Yeah, So like there's this cute thing to it that
I think kind of redeems the gag a little bit
and makes it makes it cool.
Speaker 6 (32:27):
So he totally did not get it, like a dense guy,
like did not get the whole situation, like she's she
gave it like.
Speaker 4 (32:34):
Good old fashioned try.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
But yeah, it was a fil but a cute phil
like that was I think the idea.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (32:41):
I also think it's funny because, like you know, two
episodes again, she was like so excited about Josh and
then she's like, yeah, I know, yeah, I'm good.
Speaker 5 (32:49):
Well it's not as fun once you have it, probably, Yeah,
it's the chase.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
It didn't definitely didn't.
Speaker 4 (32:55):
A dog who caught the car exactly, but it is.
Speaker 5 (33:01):
Yeah, that's a cute little scene too though, because like
the conversation between Jeff and Mary and he's like, oh
so that's not really what you thought and and and
she's like, well, actually.
Speaker 4 (33:14):
Well she feels awkward. So then we go back to
the hospital.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
We're back, Matt is stepping up, he's in the delivery room,
the baby is being delivered, Matt. Barry is like trying
not to vomit or something like that. All I see
(33:37):
is Barry goofing on Matt in that moment, as like
a meta acting thing that I think is probably a
theme with Barry I'll try to call it out when
I see it, but this seems like one of those
moments where I see more of Barry than I do
have Matt. But then he saves it, so it's he
doesn't not take it seriously to the point of like
(33:58):
throwing the gag out. He turns around when the baby
is born and he gives a very charming smile of
relief and realization and of joy, and you see, you
see all of the proper emotions that you would see
and like a dad, right, because the the idea is
he's going through all of this, uh struggles with the
(34:20):
birthing process as a man in the room that you
would expect from the dad, but he's not the dad,
So like, what's your problem? But he turns around and
then you still get that that proud father payoff moment
where he is proud of his friend, he sees the baby,
he sees the miracle of life, and he's happy about it.
You know it's it's he's he pays it off. He
does a good job scene. Yeah, so then we get
(34:43):
back to my stuff.
Speaker 4 (34:45):
And thank god.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
So Simon finally gets to the to the big man
on campus for his for his pulling about the location
of heaven to the reverend himself and h and this
is where the show like really follows through I think
on the gag and says like and gives the right answer,
which is that you know what, Simon, nobody knows where
(35:13):
heaven is or if that if that statement even makes sense,
and it's it's good that we don't that like that
the idea that if we knew where it was, it
wouldn't be as special. That that's not what the point
of believing in it is about. And the show kind
of follows through on a great little like metaphysical statement
(35:34):
about these kind of things, about the serious, hard conversations
that you got to have with your kid about life
in a way that's approachable and uh, and it tees
up parents to kind of do this at home.
Speaker 4 (35:45):
Yeah, so what happens next? Mac? What?
Speaker 3 (35:49):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (35:49):
Now, we're done.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
No, we're not, We're not dead. We'll take a break,
We'll be right back.
Speaker 4 (36:00):
My kid just cut all her hair, Oh boy, as
much as yours. No, no, beautiful, I told you my
kids sassy. She just got the anime cut. It's like
short in the back and long in the front.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
Oh cool.
Speaker 4 (36:13):
Yeah, she's too cool.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
Man.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
That's great, that's cute. I want to see the back.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
How are you.
Speaker 6 (36:20):
Feeling when your dog came into this world?
Speaker 3 (36:25):
I was like, our birth with Lily was was tough.
From what I can remember, it was. It was a
long labor. It was it was difficult, and uh and
Shawn and made it happen in the end and it
was awesome. We where one of those parents who don't
(36:50):
find out the gender of our baby before they're born,
mostly just to drive.
Speaker 4 (36:57):
I remember that.
Speaker 6 (36:58):
I remember being your baby shower and you even saying
that You're like, it's killing everyone because I remember coming
to your baby shower and I just remember being like so, David,
like really, and You're like no, really, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
Well be thought that I knew, but I wasn't telling everybody.
And I was like, no, we literally don't know.
Speaker 5 (37:17):
Difficult secret to keep in because someone would eventually get
it out of you.
Speaker 3 (37:21):
We decided was like, why ruin the surprise like the birth?
The birth is like the moment, and let's make let's
live for that moment. I think how that moment be
as special as possible, which.
Speaker 6 (37:32):
Means conversation with you because I was like trying to
get it out of you.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
I'm like but and you're like, no better.
Speaker 3 (37:39):
And I tell the doctors like, don't tell us, don't
do the thing. And it's fine that some people do that,
and it's your thing you can do. I recommend it.
It's awesome. So uh, you know we so in that moment,
you know that I remember the doctor holding Lily up,
saying it's a girl, and uh, and and seeing her
for the first time. She was a tiny little thing,
(38:01):
you know, she was only just over six pounds like
I was when I was born, really small and uh.
And then I got to go out to uh the
family of my family and Seawanna's family is all waiting
and and I was like, it's a baby, and they
were like, like they hated me so much in that moment.
(38:23):
And then I got to tell everyone that that we
had Lily, that it was Lily, it was a girl,
and it was awesome, man, it was it was Uh,
did you most excellent?
Speaker 5 (38:31):
Did you have any like guesses, like, but did you
think it might be a girl.
Speaker 4 (38:36):
Or everyone everyone guesses. Everyone thinks they know what it
is because of this and because I like, what was
belly is like the crescent.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
Phase and then so that means that it's.
Speaker 4 (38:47):
A boy girl girl boy. Nobody knows you just I
don't know. It's all everyone had a guess.
Speaker 3 (38:55):
It was pretty much fifty percent boy guesses and fifty
percent girl guesses.
Speaker 4 (38:59):
And guess what if everybody was right? So like you know.
Speaker 3 (39:05):
So, but but like I enjoyed the anticipation of it.
I enjoy it doesn't make me, you know, for as
anxious as I can be, it doesn't make me anxious.
Speaker 4 (39:15):
It's I find it enjoyable, the suspense. It's fun.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
So now back at the house, Eric's overwhelmed and neglects
to consider Annie's crisis.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
Okay, So then we come back to the house and
Eric finally makes his way to the bedroom where Annie
has been holed up for the day, aggrieving alone and
uh and and does his best to apologize for not
being there for her and and because he had because
(39:46):
of reasons, because of all of these things as couple,
and he should have been there and oh my god,
I had to deal with all this stuff, and almost
in his apology forgetting the real fact that you know,
she's been alone this whole time, with some with heavy grief.
And so again, Catherine delivers in this scene with some
(40:08):
righteous quiet anger, which is the scariest kind of anger,
but still being an excellent in the way that the
show was written, where like everyone is still a great
communicator even though they're angry, because when you get angry,
communication is usually the first thing that goes out the window,
and everyone just is yelling and saying nothing. But instead
Catherine says I'm feeling a little bit abandoned right now,
(40:32):
and brings the whole point of the episode to a
kind of a point, which is at a great scene
and gives Eric a proper opportunity to apologize and be sorry.
Speaker 5 (40:41):
Yeah, this is what happens when David actually watches the episode.
After this, there's a little scene with Simon and Ruthie
at the top of the fictitious stairs. He's again, you know,
still trying to figure out the actual location of heaven,
and then you know it's basically you know where you
are when you are no longer alive. But then he
(41:02):
expands it to where you are before you were born,
and Ruthie says, well, I was in my mommy's tummy
before I was born. But then he's like, well, where
were you before one of them says, where were you
before you were in your mommy's tummy?
Speaker 4 (41:14):
This is Ruthie's insight though not Si.
Speaker 3 (41:16):
Yeah, yeah, this is your opportunity to be to be
kind of to shine above your station and show that
you're a little a little baby who has insight into
the world.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
Yes.
Speaker 5 (41:28):
So so then you know, it's just the concept of
where where you are before you exist in any form?
Speaker 3 (41:34):
I think, Yeah, it's a clever it's a very it's
it's a it's a point.
Speaker 2 (41:39):
To cyclic nature of life in general.
Speaker 3 (41:42):
Yeah, I know it's saying is that, like, this point
has been made in this metaphysical conversation at large. But
the clever thing that the show does is have you
make the point because you're the youngest.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
You're the the closest true birth.
Speaker 5 (41:55):
Yeah, so the nature in the closest one to the
period that we're talking.
Speaker 4 (42:00):
At, that is the clever piece.
Speaker 6 (42:04):
You know. I have a crazy kind of off the subject,
but I all circle back on this is I did
Celebrity ghost Stories because I did a haunted I did
a movie at a haunted insane asylum, and I went
back with Celebrity ghost Stories to that insane asylum and
while I was walking through talking about ghosts and all
these metaphysical things. At the very very end, the medium said,
(42:25):
are you pregnant? And this is when the cameras weren't rolling,
and I said, nope, definitely not. And she said there
is a little girl and she's coming and she's been
waiting for her opportunity.
Speaker 1 (42:34):
She's coming soon. I got pregnant the next month.
Speaker 6 (42:37):
So the little girl was like before her. Yeah, and
that was Kenzy. Isn't that crazy, though, Well, you asked
for it, I guess.
Speaker 1 (42:48):
To get pregnant.
Speaker 6 (42:49):
Yeah, no, I which would in stane asylum. I definitely
didn't ask her to get pregnant.
Speaker 3 (42:54):
You know.
Speaker 6 (42:54):
It was kind of it was, but it was also
crazy because she also brought up my friend who passed
away and said that she was the angel that was
protecting me while I was on set and kept telling
to ward off the bad spirit, saying no, no, no.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
She's safe. There were no bad spirits on our set.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
No, on my am I haunted. Yes, there were. There's
a lot of bad spirits somewhere alive after you.
Speaker 2 (43:16):
You have you ever seen a ghost or things? Because
I I don't like they don't I don't feel never
have seen a ghost or felt anything like whatsoever close
to this.
Speaker 4 (43:26):
Save it for Halloween, guys.
Speaker 5 (43:29):
Okay, So then when we come back, Eric is at
the church with the couple who is having this you know,
really important marriage crisis of paperwork, and they're renewing their
vows and sort of in between you haven't seen, you know,
Eric can kind of see Annie sitting in the pews
watching this, and it's almost as if Eric and Annie
are at the same time renewing their vows with each
(43:51):
other as as the couple is actually going through that ritual.
Really it's only eye contact between Annie and Eric.
Speaker 2 (44:00):
Dialogue, but.
Speaker 5 (44:03):
You see the resolution of their feelings of being disconnected
with each other, and you know, a lot of the
watery eyes in that one.
Speaker 2 (44:12):
I think, ye no.
Speaker 5 (44:17):
As the couple reaffirms their love, it sort of brings
Annie and.
Speaker 3 (44:23):
Eric's Yeah, we we re rack focus, which is a
thing like a technical kind of cinematography thing that they
do in film. They rack from the couple renewing their
vows to Annie in the background, who's mouthing the vows
along with them, but to Eric and so they which
(44:46):
is a great way for her to forgive him for
him not being there for her through the day, and
so they get that that moment of connection and forgiveness
and uh, and we kind of reaffirm their love while
we reaffirmed the couples love all the same time.
Speaker 4 (45:03):
Nice little bow.
Speaker 2 (45:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (45:05):
So then we come back and Matt walks into the
backyard to find Jeff and Mary playing this happy game
of basketball, and he says, guys, like, from what I've seen,
you know, that's what what kissing can lead to, and
I really think that you should break up. And I
I'm just and then they're like, Okay, yeah, that sounds good,
(45:25):
and I think it's just it's really kind of funny
how Matt is the one in charge of like Mary
and Jeff's relationship and they just go along with.
Speaker 2 (45:32):
It the time. We're just like, all right, yeah, yeah,
whatever you.
Speaker 5 (45:34):
Think is best for us to do, that's fine, we'll
do that, Matt. And then like they continue just going, yeah,
we'll do that, we'll do that.
Speaker 2 (45:41):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (45:43):
Well, instead of like, instead of breaking down the drama
of the day to him, they decide to just let
him let him think that he decided. Yeah, And so
they give him that victory and laugh knowingly about it
and it's cute.
Speaker 1 (45:57):
Yeah, to keep between the two of them.
Speaker 6 (46:03):
I think this is a yeah the end of up
which is very sweet, where like we have we're all
kind of diving into the pie. I remember that pie
actually too.
Speaker 3 (46:12):
I have fleeting memories of I remember of the team
coming up to smear pie face.
Speaker 2 (46:19):
This one. This wasn't when we ate. This was a
different pie eating scene. But there was another.
Speaker 1 (46:23):
One, the blueberry pie.
Speaker 2 (46:25):
This was the blueberry pie eat scene.
Speaker 1 (46:27):
Yes, it is a blueberry pie eating scene.
Speaker 5 (46:29):
I remember being smeared all over my face that the scene.
I remember having to eat it and then just like
hurl it into a bucket.
Speaker 2 (46:35):
And that's the thing, because that still is That one
was that early.
Speaker 5 (46:40):
That scene was probably my least favorite scene ever in
the history of the show.
Speaker 3 (46:45):
You look like a little doll from a horror movie.
Speaker 6 (46:51):
This is also another I felt like I was in
a spot.
Speaker 1 (46:55):
Where we break into song.
Speaker 4 (46:58):
Yeah, and then for whatever reason.
Speaker 2 (47:00):
Well.
Speaker 5 (47:02):
I'm upstairs singing Grandma's song with with.
Speaker 4 (47:08):
And then you.
Speaker 2 (47:11):
Off, you know.
Speaker 5 (47:12):
For as much screen time as the pie eating God,
I really feel like they made us eat pie. When
we were shooting that, it felt like we had to
be eating pie for hours.
Speaker 6 (47:21):
I think this was also the early and then it's
just like this a master. This was the early days
when it wasn't necessarily we weren't all great at understanding,
like because everything tasted good the first bite PI.
Speaker 1 (47:35):
The first bite, yeah, three hundredth bite.
Speaker 6 (47:39):
We all wanted to die before.
Speaker 4 (47:43):
But when you're eating food on camera, yeah, you just
don't do it just no better.
Speaker 3 (47:50):
So you want it because remember every time on every
shot that you're seeing it, you have to take the
same bite at.
Speaker 1 (47:56):
The same time, same amount.
Speaker 3 (47:57):
So if you're sitting there it's real hungry before you
start that scene and you're like, oh great, I'm gonna
eat pie. By the four hours later, when you're still
shooting that scene, still eating pie, it's the same pie.
Speaker 1 (48:10):
It's not like a new pie. It's not a fresh
it's the same one pie. It's the same nasty.
Speaker 3 (48:14):
Sometimes they got some backup PI is ready to be.
Speaker 4 (48:19):
Mix but it's not fun.
Speaker 6 (48:21):
But then yeah, so then but then it is that
moment where after you're upstairs singing with mom and you're
singing Grandma's song and then we can hear it downstairs
and we all kind of break out into song. I
did not realize how much music was involved in our
show and how much singing.
Speaker 3 (48:41):
Yeah, it's we're on like episode four and we've had
like three times we've broken into song different There's Mary
and Stephen doing the hoedown.
Speaker 1 (48:51):
Yeah, there's trying to break up.
Speaker 4 (48:54):
There's the pie song.
Speaker 6 (48:55):
Yeah, there's there's a church song when she sings the.
Speaker 3 (49:00):
Church number that Renee does. There's I mean, we're already
like we're one for one on singing, which honestly is
something I blocked out of my memory completely because I
still was shocked when when I remembered when we were
doing the real musical stuff and I panicked and was like,
I don't want to sing.
Speaker 4 (49:18):
Good question, We've been doing it the whole time.
Speaker 1 (49:20):
Is there going to be a song in episode five?
Speaker 6 (49:23):
We will have to find out, so be sure to
stay with us next week.
Speaker 5 (49:28):
There's another scene though, how for in two weeks there's
the grandpa. Yeah, Grandpa coming back and he apologizes to
Ann ye hold on the episode over, Yeah, so so
Grandpa actually finally he comes back to the house, that's right,
and he apologizes to Annie and they have this really
touching moment. I think it's in Annie's bedroom, and it's
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before the singing, I believe, because that's how it ends.
And he says that he didn't actually make it to Phoenix,
and then he went to the cemetery and sat there
for two hours, and I think he says that he
really didn't say much at all because Jenny has heard
all of his jokes already. Very sweet, you know, he
(50:09):
tells Annie that he's never really been very good at
at dealing with that sort of thing. And the wrap
up of that little disaster at least relationship wise, yeah, it's.
Speaker 4 (50:22):
A great It's a great way to tie up Annie's.
Speaker 3 (50:25):
And that's when they start an abandonment, which is the
core theme of the episode, and having her dad come
back and apologize for for not being there for her
in that in the family's moment.
Speaker 6 (50:37):
Of need, and also that circling back too of that
everyone deals with grief differently, and some want to be
surrounded by people and some want to be alone. And
in that moment, like he's recognizing that Annie needed him,
but he also he needed to do what he needed
to do in those moments too, So it's also this
kind of this very sweet understanding.
Speaker 5 (50:58):
Of taking care of yourself, yes, and taking care of
others exactly.
Speaker 1 (51:04):
Yeah, And then.
Speaker 2 (51:05):
We have Kanada shut up.
Speaker 4 (51:09):
Yeah. It's the thing is, can we sing Grandma's favorite song?
Speaker 2 (51:12):
It turns out to be camp which turns.
Speaker 3 (51:14):
Out to be this this like campy, like what is
this song?
Speaker 4 (51:19):
Do we? Does anyone?
Speaker 5 (51:20):
I don't know, but it's been stuck in my head
my whole life. And maybe this is why is it
not a song? It strikes because I have it very
solidly in here, and I've like hummed it from wrong
about it in my life.
Speaker 4 (51:33):
But I feel like the melody is a classical melody.
Speaker 3 (51:38):
Then the camp Granada song is like a spoofy kind.
Speaker 4 (51:42):
Of lyrical addition to it. I think at a later time.
Speaker 5 (51:45):
I probably so much to practice for shooting that that
I feel like.
Speaker 3 (51:50):
It's like a Looney Tunes type song. It seems like
something from like the Animaniacs, like a bugs Bunny or
something thing.
Speaker 4 (52:00):
I don't know, we'll see.
Speaker 1 (52:03):
Maybe that's a w B. Yeah, maybe that's a w
B strip.
Speaker 4 (52:06):
Looney Tunes was Warner Brothers. Yeah, yeah, so I mean,
you know that's I don't know.
Speaker 3 (52:11):
I don't know the history of the song, but I
seem to think that the melody is older than the
spoofy kind of lyrics to it.
Speaker 4 (52:17):
I don't know if it's if that's true, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (52:19):
All I know is I know it very well.
Speaker 4 (52:21):
Yeah. It's one of those melodies that everyone should know
or be familiar with.
Speaker 1 (52:25):
You definitely do.
Speaker 4 (52:26):
The song is actually.
Speaker 1 (52:27):
Called yeah Hello Mana Hello Fa.
Speaker 2 (52:31):
I think.
Speaker 1 (52:37):
No, no no no, no no no no no no.
Speaker 2 (52:39):
It is based on Dancity Hours.
Speaker 4 (52:42):
Italian Thank you.
Speaker 3 (52:46):
I was correct another point, it's a classical melody that
was rebranded as a goofy song.
Speaker 4 (52:56):
Wow.
Speaker 6 (52:57):
On that note, David is right, and we are gonna
wrap this episode up, so be sure to like us,
follow us, push all the buttons.
Speaker 1 (53:09):
Thank you so much for listening, and catch us next time.
On catching up with the Camdens.
Speaker 4 (53:14):
Peace,
Oh, I hate working out.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
You guys like I don't like working out at a gym.
I just don't.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
I just don't enjoy it.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
But nobody enjoys working out until it starts working and
then it's enjoyable.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Yeah, I have.
Speaker 4 (00:17):
I enjoy working out until I start getting into shape.
Speaker 5 (00:20):
I warre playing, like doing sports and things like that,
until and then they just you get in shape without noticing.
Speaker 6 (00:28):
Or you can just go do stupid things like stupid
Joe's that will like try to kill you and make
you do extreme things and then realize that you shouldn't
do any of such things, which also does not motivate
you to do anything at the gym.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
Is that how you justify it that it's a workout
I did.
Speaker 6 (00:44):
I kind of thought that I was going to do
Special Forces and it was gonna be work out and
I was gonna get fit.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
I didn't think I want a six pack. I'm going
to go do Special Forces. I'm going to kill myself
in the desert.
Speaker 6 (01:00):
Like fit then with like special Forces. No, I did
not get I did not get a six back.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
I got a lot of bruises, I got a bit. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
No, watch your form. My form was.
Speaker 6 (01:20):
You know what's funny though, is like I was there,
there was one point where we had to do the.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
I don't even know what it's called.
Speaker 6 (01:29):
It was murderous, but we had to do this like
whole like we had to go through the mud pit
and through the tunnel and jump into the water and
pull ourselves out and then go.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
To obstacle course.
Speaker 6 (01:40):
And I when I was trying to do sit ups,
I couldn't do them because like I felt like my
insides were tearing out because I've had two three sea
sections and none of the guys knew what to do
with me. So as I'm like crying because I'm like,
am my insides are gonna burst, and They're like, go
to the next so they just send me to the
next person is the next person and then finally they
just were like just sit down.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
And that is my experience. It was bad. That was
day one.
Speaker 5 (02:05):
I mean, exercise is great when you have to, like
I got really fit galloping racesources because like, look, you're
not if you're feel like your muscles are about to
give out, like you never let go when it's the
hardest to stay on right, because that's like anything, that's
when it hurts.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
The most to fall or something, so you have to.
You're like, oh my god, I'm gonna die.
Speaker 5 (02:23):
I don't going forty miles an hour, you know.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
Oh yeah, So do you have one of those mechanical
bowl things? No exercise back.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
No, I exercise now with like a pitchfork mostly, oh.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Right on only farms, not only farms.
Speaker 5 (02:41):
And I lift things. And like I was telling that
I volunteered to help people move when they.
Speaker 6 (02:46):
Know she's been very sweet and wanting to help me
move some of the furniture.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
That I sitting in the workout, and it's but having.
Speaker 6 (02:53):
Just moved, like we we did. I think I did
like forty thousand steps and seventeen miles in one day,
going up and down three flights of stairs. And I
think it said I went up like seventy flights of
stairs that day.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Kids are a great exercise too.
Speaker 6 (03:10):
I'm still to get a six pack from that either,
which I feel totally jypped.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
But anyway, chat with it.
Speaker 6 (03:16):
I think we should. Why don't we do an intro?
Why don't we tell everybody who we are, what we're doing.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Hey, everybody, you have clicked on catching up with the
Camdens welcome, thanks for joining us again. We are in
the middle of our rewatch series where we're rewatching the
good old days on the show.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
We're on episode four now.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Yes, So if you joined us, if you're listening, if
you're watching, whatever platform you're on, do the things. There's
stuff you could do to help us out. Like it,
dislike it, hate it, don't love it. No, don't get
any of those rage posts.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
Do all the things.
Speaker 6 (03:48):
No, do all the nice things. And by the way,
I'm Beverly Mitchell.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Who are you.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
I'm I'm David Gallagher.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
I'm McKenzie Ross.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Yes, and we are so excited you.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (04:01):
We're on episode four, like David said, and that is
no no wedding.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
No is it no funerals in a wedding, no funerals.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
There's a wedding in it, and there are no funerals
in it because.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
That's the funeral.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
And that's where we begin.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Yes, that's where we begin.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
The wedding doesn't take up a lot begin with.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Grandma has just passed away.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Yes, and what was her character's name other than Grandma?
Speaker 1 (04:30):
It was grandma.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
She certainly had a name.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
I thought it was just Grandma.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
Thanks for calling us all out for not remembering that.
Speaker 5 (04:36):
No, so there's in the end of this episode, there's
some there's a comment about someone being named after Grandma,
and they never really said what her name was, and
I was wondering whether it was a baby named Grandma.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
I'm looking it up.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
We're looking it up because you know who remembers Ruth.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Oh I didn't know. Yeah, I didn't know you.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
I was okay, Oh my goodness.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
Yeah, how the table hold on though.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Grandma Ruth.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Seem as Jenny.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
That's right, Yes, actually that is correct. God, you did
it faster than I did, Jared.
Speaker 6 (05:26):
So we start off with the funeral, and we also
meet some other cast members.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
They handled tablets.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
Are there for for a quick.
Speaker 6 (05:34):
Intro, right, and then as we're kind of leaving the funeral,
Grandpa takes.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Off, does not cope with loss very well, splits in.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
A hurry, leaving Annie distressed.
Speaker 5 (05:47):
I don't even think he stayed for the whole He
didn't stay for the reception, No, just just the funeral.
And he catches a cab and is like, see you,
I'm going back to Phoenix.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
Yeah. A tough day of work for me because I
had to be asleep in the in the limo, in
the limo.
Speaker 6 (06:01):
Also, by the way, yeah, I remember being excited that
we had like a limo on set and we got
to like be in the limo. I just remember like
that was like exciting. Does anyone even use limos anymore?
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Like is that a thing? I think they exist?
Speaker 3 (06:16):
The only ones I ever see driving around La are
like the big truck ones and the van ones and
the bus ones.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
That memory the nineties were like, yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
They were more uh the car limos.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Yeah, town car.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Town cars and stretch limousines were more of a regular
thing to see.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
Back in the day.
Speaker 6 (06:38):
So we all roll up to the Camden household. Ruthie's asleep,
Simon just sleep.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
The Munchkins they were for.
Speaker 5 (06:46):
So that's when they designate that we are the younger
set because they refer to us as the Munchkins, and
you and Mary and Barrier are the only ones actually
awake conscious.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
You still get a cute.
Speaker 6 (07:00):
Nickname because we weren't cute, So that's fine. But I
do remember that.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Dress, by the way, I loved that dress that I
wore in that episode.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
I don't remember the suit that I was in.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Yeah, it was hot.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
It was probably shoulder pads.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
It was definitely shoulders.
Speaker 6 (07:19):
But yeah, so we go uh home and there is
everyone there and I think I call it the the castrole.
I can see the cast roll patrol because there is
just a.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Lot of food.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Everyone's lined up at the reverend's house two mourn and
to support their UH church family with food.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Yes, and there's a lot of it.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
And in this uh set up with the with the
castroll patrol, we set up Simon's gag for the episode,
which is that he is now faced with mortality. He's
determined to figure out the physical location of Heaven. He's
determined to like get to the botom of it. So
while Simon sets off on his mission to discover the
(08:05):
Heaven's geographical location, we also are introduced to our key
guest stars of the episode, which is the married couple
that is kind of like grossly in love still like
they're having their honeymoon phase like months in or at
least they're putting on like they are staying very like
nuzzily and kind of stuff.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
Like that couple.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Yeah, not not lovely.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
So that's awkward.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Yeah, but I do I love front.
Speaker 6 (08:37):
I love that because only as Simon would I love
that storyline of Simon's way of dealing with death in
trying to understand like, okay, you say they go to heaven?
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Where is heaven?
Speaker 6 (08:50):
It was so Simon, like it couldn't It was like
a perfect storyline for him.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Yeah, it's the kind of it's the kind of storylines
that I that I'm really happy that I got to
to do particate for my character. So, like it's cute
and it's innocent in its premise, but then it gives
the show an opportunity to actually say something about the
question and and to hopefully say something interesting about the question,
(09:16):
which I think they actually do in the end.
Speaker 6 (09:17):
Yeah, and in a way to for for other kids,
you know, to have breached that conversation with like your family.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
You know.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
Sure, it's a great setup for the conversation that it
that any young kid might ask, which is you tell
me about this place?
Speaker 4 (09:33):
Where is it? You know this?
Speaker 3 (09:34):
And so how do you breach a metaphysical conversation with
a child? I'm going to find out soon, I guess
I have a kid. But like you know, it's uh,
it's a it's a cool little storyline. Again, Simon's gags
are pretty solid.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Yeah, earlier.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
So so after this, Simon.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Gets the first glimpse of trouble with the newly I
want to call them the newly led couple, but they
I think they established that they've been married for for
months now and uh, but they're but their their whole
spiel in the beginning about how deeply infatuated they are
with each other seems to be seems to break when
(10:14):
when I catch the the woman crying.
Speaker 6 (10:17):
Well, I think at first you were like, wow, she
must be really upset about Grandma.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
Yeah, exactly, like.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
She does to pretend that she's actually but that's what.
Speaker 6 (10:25):
That's what your your your response is And then Eric
knows better and goes to invest.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Simon is very observant but but still innocent. Yes exactly,
and so things go over his head, but you know,
he gives it a good A.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Good one for you. Yeah, yeah, And it's.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
A very modern moment.
Speaker 6 (10:44):
The next part is where Lucy and Mary are having
conversations and Mary wants to break up with Jeff and
Lucy just doesn't understand, like why because he smells.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
It smells so good you could smell his cologne from
across the room.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Which is it?
Speaker 3 (10:59):
Which is called smell Maxing and that's something kids do
these days. Really, yeah, over spray cologne. This is like
an internet cologne whole thing.
Speaker 5 (11:11):
That sounds like what a lot of kids even though
and remember the axe body spray that the teenagers, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
The modern version of that, Yeah, exactly, So we're taking
it way back.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Yeah, she's just romantic and so it's like I could
smell this cologne from here.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
How romantic?
Speaker 1 (11:33):
All right, what happened next?
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Well, so the next thing that happens is that Eric
goes into his office which is off of the foyer,
and he finds the husband of the newlywed couple, and
he confesses that he is.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
A big already married.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
He's already married.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
So he's already married, which means he's married to two women.
It's very explicit that his old marriage was over, just
not the paperwork hadn't gone through, and his new marriage
is like real to him, but he can't communicate this
to his wife, who he thinks couldn't understand that like
the paperwork, I mean, I.
Speaker 6 (12:09):
Would not understand if someone was like, oh, by the way,
forgot to tell you, but I've already been married.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
But like I really.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Do love you, it's late in the game to tell
someone you've already been married if you are married and married.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
But it could have been a shotgun wedding.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
But ultimately his sin is is getting married, like being
in love with her and marrying her faster than the
paperwork from his old marriage goes through, like he was
divorced but the but the paperwork didn't go through. It
just seems like a contrived sin to me, I don't know,
it seems like something that should be very easily communicated
(12:44):
between adults. So when I saw that, I was like,
I don't understand what the big deal is. That was
my take with being honest about it.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Wait to tell someone why it's a.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
Contrived big deal is what I felt. And I thought
it was awkward.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Well, yeah it's awkward.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
You never like held something off from your spouse.
Speaker 6 (13:04):
And just.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
Yeah it's snow. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (13:10):
I think I share too much all the time, Like
I'm going to overshare, Like I think there's things where
like Michael just would rather not know. He's just like,
I don't I don't need to know that. I'm like, hey,
so yeah, guys are like that, though, Yeah, what that
they don't want to know everything?
Speaker 4 (13:28):
It's like, you know, certain things could be need to know, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
I sort of enjoyed telling people things that they don't
want to I.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
We know this, we know this, we are aware. Okay.
Speaker 6 (13:40):
The next part is when Jeff comes in and he's
talking to Matt and he's trying to get advice of
telling Jeff not to be so cleany because you know,
Mary kind of is taking on the like the boys
role typically because usually the girls are very cleaning.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
And Jeff says, the first really sex this thing in
the episode, which is the guys can't be clinging, right,
is not what he says. Men aren't clean. That's not
a guy. Men can't be clingy by default. It's clearly
not true the way he's been written in the episode,
because he was quite clean clingy.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
So Annie is crying in her room.
Speaker 5 (14:18):
She's having a hard time because obviously her mother has
died and her father is totally nowhere to be found
and completely emotionally unavailable. Ruthie wanders into you know see
what mom is up to, and they tried to remember
Grandma together through this sweet little song.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Don't don't ruin The payoff for the episode mag with
our mystical number.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
But you're trying to kill me with your eyes.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
I was trying to kill you with my eyes. I
was just looking at you.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
I was just looking at you.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (14:55):
So then my sweet little moment with my mom remembering
Grandma is cut short because Renee, Matt's pregnant friend walks
in and it's baby time, so uh, she has to
go to the hospital. And then Matt decides that he's
going to step up to the plate and be her
(15:16):
support person through this.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Because the husband's at a comic book convention where is
not married?
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Right, but where's the father?
Speaker 5 (15:25):
We established he was a nice guy who got this
job at the church, and then he's.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
Such a comic book convention.
Speaker 5 (15:31):
Oh right, because they had because they did have those
in the nineties.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Yeah, they did.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
They started comic con like thirty years ago or longer
or something like that.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
It's been going on.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
As long as you say thirty years ago. You realize
that he's in the nineties.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
That's like they want to talk about it.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
I do not want to talk, let me not.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
I'm just like, I think it's funny that the reason
why he's not there is because they they said he
was in a comic book.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Did they really say that he was at that or
did you just make that up?
Speaker 4 (15:57):
No? No, why would I make that up?
Speaker 6 (15:59):
Okay, On that note, I think we are going to
take a break.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
We will be right back.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
There's a moment where I'm pestering the limo driver about
with my heaven investigation. I'm like, you've seen a lot
of dead bodies, tell me where this place is, you know,
And he's like trying to eat, you know, and he's like,
leave me alone, kid, basically, and then like you know,
they need a ride to the hospital, and he's like, oh,
I'm a driver, get me out of here.
Speaker 6 (16:32):
And then I think we come back and we find
Lucy crying in the hallway.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Yes, this was a very sweet scene.
Speaker 6 (16:39):
This was actually kind of fun to kind of relive,
and I actually do remember it because I remember it
actually being very poignant in the sense that Lucy's upset
because she says it feels like there's a party going
on and Grandma wasn't invited. And Eric's response is, this
isn't really a party, this is kind of like a
celebration of life, and Lucy has the response that no,
(17:05):
I'm talking about life and how it doesn't feel right
that Grandma's not here anymore. Life goes on without her.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Without her.
Speaker 6 (17:14):
And I also come later in my life when my
friend passed away, that that comment actually kept resonating in
my mind of how it just felt wrong when someone
passes away and this whole thing of life goes on,
and it's a very difficult thing to reconcile when you feel.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Like the world has stopped.
Speaker 6 (17:37):
Absolutely, it's those acting scenes that are like more than
just a scene, and a scene that like really has
I've held onto for a very very long time, and
I think the way it was written and just those
moments was like a really special and it was pretty
much I feel it. But rewatching it brought back so much.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Yeah, it's early, it's early in the episode, but mvp
aword for this episode goes to bev. This is my
favorite scene in the episode by a mile. It is
the best. It is the strongest acting in this in
the episode. Your speech about how it's not fair that
life moves on is moving and it's honest and it's
(18:22):
beautifully executed, and you have easily the best moment in
this episode. Good Yeah, true story though, watch it. It's
solid and that's and that stuff is not. I mean,
there's emotional scenes that we have to do that are
maybe less impactful or seem less important, but this this
scene was emotional and had a lot of weight and
(18:45):
had something to say, and you did all of that
beautifully and honestly, and so you get the award this
episode for sure.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Thank you that.
Speaker 6 (18:56):
Beautiful Hey, you know what, it's uh wonderful that we all,
at one point through the season's get these moments and
these magical very well written and very well set up,
because I think it's very easy to overwrite situations like this,
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it's very easy to like overperform and all of those things.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
And it was simple and sweet and it was one
of those that I was actually proud of. So thank you. Now,
moving on, what do what you do next?
Speaker 3 (19:32):
To dial in on something important? They really did a
great job.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Yeah, m thank you. What happens next?
Speaker 2 (19:41):
I love Simon.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
So Simon is now is continuing his investigation on the
location of heaven and he sits down with Mary's clinging boyfriend.
And what makes me laugh about the scene is that
they play into like a bit of his like kind
of jockey persona and and me being this like smart,
(20:04):
inquisitive kid, and then he says something like I'm making
all of this these kind of like scientific points about
how like, look, space is out there, we can account
for space, we know what's beyond this guy the whole
up there arguments out the window like that doesn't make
any sense, so like where is this place? And then
he he says this kind of stonery thing where he's
(20:26):
like maybe it's in like the fifth dimension man, And
I'm like interesting, like it's it's like just kind of
a metaphysical like non answer, just enough to like to
kind of throw Simon off a little bit and kind
of make him think.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
And it's it's cute and it's stupid, it's funny.
Speaker 5 (20:46):
So Mary and Annie are in the kitchen and Mary's
she's kind of saying that like it's sort of annoying,
but she also sort of appreciates it about Eric that
when things are wrong, he always wants to talk about it,
and sometimes she'd rather just not talk about it. And
Annie says a comment to Mary about, you know, jokingly,
like you know, thanks for being so wise, but you know,
(21:09):
but it's cute, I mean, and there's just reflecting on
which in the episode later on how they have different
styles of handling conflict that are in the end you
see that they're complimentary.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
And that's yeah, that's that scene. That's that scene.
Speaker 6 (21:27):
This is another typical Lucy moment. Jeff comes out to
talk to Lucy and consoler and feel, you know, be sweet,
and Lucy inserts foot in mouth like always and totally apologizes,
saying that she's sorry that Mary broke up with him,
which has not yet happened, right, And then Lucy's kind
(21:49):
of like, uh oh, we are big trouble.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Which then sets him off on his mission to like
maybe take the clinging advice and.
Speaker 6 (21:57):
Be cool or something right, And then all of a
sudden he's trying to be like like distant and but also,
by the way, when I also, I don't know if
it's in the scene right right after this, then he
as he's trying to be distant, also becomes clumsy. He
like starts like falling all over the place. I mean,
I thought that was an interesting choice.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
It's supposed to be like a cute, charming kind of
like he tries to be too cool, but he bumbles
it because he's not because he is clinging.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Got it?
Speaker 4 (22:24):
Sensitive or whatever. I think that's the play.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Got it?
Speaker 6 (22:27):
But yeah, I was like, so just because you're trying
to be distant means you're clumsy?
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Got it? But yeah, that makes sense. Okay. You guys
ever had a moment where you let something slip accidentally?
Speaker 4 (22:36):
Shouldn't have?
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Oh I am ween?
Speaker 6 (22:39):
Oh yeah, mag how about that one.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
It's a vault. Shut up, David.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
I was gonna make inappropriate jokes.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Yes, I got. I will absolutely admit that.
Speaker 6 (22:59):
I I am definitely one for opening my mouth sometimes
when I should.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Yeah, not you.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
I was like, are you doing about me?
Speaker 2 (23:09):
I wasn't agreeing with that. You don't. You're pretty good.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
I have no filter, that's true, but that's okay. That's
why we love you. So we accept it and love you.
Speaker 6 (23:19):
I love everything about you, so don't worry about it.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Thanks.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
David always thinks before he speaks.
Speaker 6 (23:26):
He's got that great filter. And Mac and I we
were missing it.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
It was mouthpum first, clean up later.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Should we break forgiveness?
Speaker 4 (23:40):
You know, Look, it's been great, but we need a break.
We'll be right back.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
It sounds like you're breaking up with them.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
It's not you. It's true. We'll be right back.
Speaker 6 (23:56):
So now we land at the hospital with Matt and Renee,
and previous to this, Eric said, you know, this is
probably gonna be better than birth control, because he's gonna
see it's like.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
An aside thing to himself to any that is.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
About to vomit. I mean, you could see is just
losing it.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
At some point talking to Barry.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
I remember saying, like I could distinctly, I could tell
when I think Barry's like goofing on the content of
the scene as opposed to taking it seriously as Matt,
like kind of making fun of himself or making fun
of Matt. I feel like this is one of those
moments where he's like hyper ventilating in the hospital and
and and I just know Barry too well, so maybe
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it's that that's coloring it. But like I could see
Barry like having too much fun, like hyperventilating and being
all shocked at the at the birth scene. But then
he as the birth really happens, and I think he
does a great job of bringing it back when it counts.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
So we'll get to that later. Yeah, he leaves the room.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
Yeah, he kind of freaks out. He leaves the room
and and goes to the call.
Speaker 5 (25:08):
I feel like there's a general theme in this episode
of people feeling like they need someone to be there
for them but not being able to reach them.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
Yes, it's exactly the theme of this episode, Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Which is cool.
Speaker 5 (25:20):
And then at the end, you know, they sort of
realize that, you know, they had everything they needed within them.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
So then we get back to our our guest couple
who are in their extended honeymoon phase that is in
full meltdown, and they are they're trying to hash out
this this issue non issue of paperwork and which is
more about honesty and communication obviously, and so uh and
(25:51):
and but in this moment they don't get very far
because then the gag with with Eric becomes that like
he keeps trying to get out of the room because
obviously he has this very important pressing family issue to
deal with with the funeral proceedings kind of ending at
his house, and he can't get out of this counseling
(26:14):
session with this couple to to go be present for
the people who need him, who particularly Annie, who is
who's kind of feeling abandoned continuously.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Over the course from her father.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Yes and then by and so she ends up spending
most of the time alone in the episode, which is
which is sad, and that's the the heart of the
episode is really Annie's grief over the loss of her mother.
But as you say so eloquently in your scene, life
moves on anyway without you, and so as as life
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is hurriedly moving forward and all these other things, external
things are happening to everybody in the family, she is
stuck in that grief moment by herself and is immobilized.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
In a way.
Speaker 6 (27:05):
I didn't even realize until just now that like the
episode has death, it has birth, and it has like union.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
Yeah, it does all the things, all the things.
Speaker 6 (27:15):
It was like, literally, as we're just sitting here talking
about it, I'm like, wow, I didn't put all that together.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
Yeah, No, it's it's a well, it's a it is
a a well crafted, like thematic episode from our early days.
This is I mean, I think this is when the
show was was doing the most.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
We're gonna.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
We'll see as as that progresses, how long we really
hold up that standard. I think this is a great
We're setting a great standard on the early episodes with
our with our content and theming around the the given
emotional lessons, you know, absolutely so as as Annie's is
left alone in her room to mourn, she reaches out
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to her dad, who she feels left her stranded, which
he definitely did in that moment of grief where the
family should be coming together and he won't even pick
up the phone.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
And it's a sweet and honest.
Speaker 6 (28:09):
Moment, great moment from Catherine, And just like she was
always so.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
Good, Catherine's performance through these first few episodes is stellar's.
She's absolutely stellar as the family matriarch and set in
the bar high for us in these early episodes, and
she does it all very gracefully.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
It's awesome.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
Oh, I do love this.
Speaker 6 (28:33):
This is also a perfect example of when Matt is
calling the house to try to get a hold of
Annie because he needs her, and Mary steps up and
is like, uh uh, you better pull it together.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
You got to handle this.
Speaker 6 (28:46):
I'm handling everything at home, you handle everything there, and
it is kind of like, it's.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
A great line.
Speaker 6 (28:54):
Everyone's stepping up and also her being pretty stern, like
very being like, oh no, oh, You're gonna figure it out.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
And with the theme of abandonment, Yeah, this is the
moment where Matt has stepped up to be there for
his friend, and he plays with the idea of abandoning her,
that he can't be here for this.
Speaker 4 (29:14):
It's not his kid, it's not his problem. Might need
to get out of here. I can't deal with it.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
And Mary tells him what he needs to hear to
get back in the room and be there for his friend.
Speaker 6 (29:23):
Right, And then I think Lucy comes in and tries
to be to share the bad news that she had
ratted Mary out and then gets very frustrated. And as
Lucy does, she does not actually tell Mary what happened,
but bumbles and Huffson goes out the.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Door, slams the door and breaks the glass.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Do I break the glass?
Speaker 2 (29:48):
You can hear a glass shatter?
Speaker 1 (29:50):
I was like, did I break something? Am I that strong?
That's awesome?
Speaker 2 (29:53):
I think.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
So as Matt hangs up the phone with this advice
to step up and be there for his friend, you
hear the that the doctor is being paged over over
the megaphone at the hospital, and so in that moment,
he decides to answer the call to go back to
his friend, and that could be a bit of foreshadowing
into Matt's future in hospital work. You know, going into
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the medical field and stuff like that, that this that
this becomes a calling in a way.
Speaker 5 (30:21):
Eric is like, you know, pretty consistently detained by this
couple having their marriage of important marriage crisis. And as
he's finally finished dealing with them, they're exiting, Simon's out
there waiting and he's.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
Got with a clipboard.
Speaker 5 (30:35):
He with the clipboard and he looks like he's like, well,
thank you, you know, thank you for coming. And he's
he's basically acting like he's Eric's assistant.
Speaker 4 (30:42):
I'm like pulling the entire Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Yeah, and then so do you think that there's a heaven?
Do you think that there is a separate heaven for dogs?
Speaker 1 (30:50):
And is a good question?
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Yeah, and it was.
Speaker 5 (30:52):
It was really cute, and Simon looks very professional and
he's trying to just be.
Speaker 4 (30:58):
All this cue.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
By the way, I don't think any of this. I'm
not I'm not winning the MVP Award for any.
Speaker 4 (31:04):
Of these gags.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
No, No, all of this stuff is very he's just
so stuff. All my stuff is very cute, if not
a little rushed. But that's a that's just me critiquing
myself at eleven years old.
Speaker 4 (31:19):
To take your time man. So then we get back
around to Jeff.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
Is Jeff right, Yes, Jeff's storyline where he is is
now in full alpha sigma mode.
Speaker 4 (31:33):
Maybe I don't know.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
He's trying to be cool guy that doesn't need attention
from the ladies.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
And so he's because he's suddenly busy.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
Right, and which makes him come out as awkward and
clumsy and all of these other things as he tries
to to impress Mary by being disinterested.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
Which, by the way, she doesn't like.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
It's so transparent and the way. The thing that I
think is redeeming about the sketch the gag is that
is that it they do it in a transparent, goofy way,
but not transparent for the audience.
Speaker 4 (32:04):
It's transparent to Mary.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
So Mary can see through it, and she's you know,
hipped to his game and thinks it's.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
Does she think it's cute?
Speaker 3 (32:12):
Like she she kind of smiles about it, like he's like, oh,
he's he's.
Speaker 4 (32:17):
Leaving me alone, which is what I wanted, but also
like he's bad at it.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
Yeah, So like there's this cute thing to it that
I think kind of redeems the gag a little bit
and makes it makes it cool.
Speaker 6 (32:27):
So he totally did not get it, like a dense guy,
like did not get the whole situation, like she's she
gave it like.
Speaker 4 (32:34):
Good old fashioned try.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
But yeah, it was a fil but a cute phil
like that was I think the idea.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (32:41):
I also think it's funny because, like you know, two
episodes again, she was like so excited about Josh and
then she's like, yeah, I know, yeah, I'm good.
Speaker 5 (32:49):
Well it's not as fun once you have it, probably, Yeah,
it's the chase.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
It didn't definitely didn't.
Speaker 4 (32:55):
A dog who caught the car exactly, but it is.
Speaker 5 (33:01):
Yeah, that's a cute little scene too though, because like
the conversation between Jeff and Mary and he's like, oh
so that's not really what you thought and and and
she's like, well, actually.
Speaker 4 (33:14):
Well she feels awkward. So then we go back to
the hospital.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
We're back, Matt is stepping up, he's in the delivery room,
the baby is being delivered, Matt. Barry is like trying
not to vomit or something like that. All I see
(33:37):
is Barry goofing on Matt in that moment, as like
a meta acting thing that I think is probably a
theme with Barry I'll try to call it out when
I see it, but this seems like one of those
moments where I see more of Barry than I do
have Matt. But then he saves it, so it's he
doesn't not take it seriously to the point of like
(33:58):
throwing the gag out. He turns around when the baby
is born and he gives a very charming smile of
relief and realization and of joy, and you see, you
see all of the proper emotions that you would see
and like a dad, right, because the the idea is
he's going through all of this, uh struggles with the
(34:20):
birthing process as a man in the room that you
would expect from the dad, but he's not the dad,
So like, what's your problem? But he turns around and
then you still get that that proud father payoff moment
where he is proud of his friend, he sees the baby,
he sees the miracle of life, and he's happy about it.
You know it's it's he's he pays it off. He
does a good job scene. Yeah, so then we get
(34:43):
back to my stuff.
Speaker 4 (34:45):
And thank god.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
So Simon finally gets to the to the big man
on campus for his for his pulling about the location
of heaven to the reverend himself and h and this
is where the show like really follows through I think
on the gag and says like and gives the right answer,
which is that you know what, Simon, nobody knows where
(35:13):
heaven is or if that if that statement even makes sense,
and it's it's good that we don't that like that
the idea that if we knew where it was, it
wouldn't be as special. That that's not what the point
of believing in it is about. And the show kind
of follows through on a great little like metaphysical statement
(35:34):
about these kind of things, about the serious, hard conversations
that you got to have with your kid about life
in a way that's approachable and uh, and it tees
up parents to kind of do this at home.
Speaker 4 (35:45):
Yeah, so what happens next? Mac? What?
Speaker 3 (35:49):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (35:49):
Now, we're done.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
No, we're not, We're not dead. We'll take a break,
We'll be right back.
Speaker 4 (36:00):
My kid just cut all her hair, Oh boy, as
much as yours. No, no, beautiful, I told you my
kids sassy. She just got the anime cut. It's like
short in the back and long in the front.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
Oh cool.
Speaker 4 (36:13):
Yeah, she's too cool.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
Man.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
That's great, that's cute. I want to see the back.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
How are you.
Speaker 6 (36:20):
Feeling when your dog came into this world?
Speaker 3 (36:25):
I was like, our birth with Lily was was tough.
From what I can remember, it was. It was a
long labor. It was it was difficult, and uh and
Shawn and made it happen in the end and it
was awesome. We where one of those parents who don't
(36:50):
find out the gender of our baby before they're born,
mostly just to drive.
Speaker 4 (36:57):
I remember that.
Speaker 6 (36:58):
I remember being your baby shower and you even saying
that You're like, it's killing everyone because I remember coming
to your baby shower and I just remember being like so, David,
like really, and You're like no, really, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
Well be thought that I knew, but I wasn't telling everybody.
And I was like, no, we literally don't know.
Speaker 5 (37:17):
Difficult secret to keep in because someone would eventually get
it out of you.
Speaker 3 (37:21):
We decided was like, why ruin the surprise like the birth?
The birth is like the moment, and let's make let's
live for that moment. I think how that moment be
as special as possible, which.
Speaker 6 (37:32):
Means conversation with you because I was like trying to
get it out of you.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
I'm like but and you're like, no better.
Speaker 3 (37:39):
And I tell the doctors like, don't tell us, don't
do the thing. And it's fine that some people do that,
and it's your thing you can do. I recommend it.
It's awesome. So uh, you know we so in that moment,
you know that I remember the doctor holding Lily up,
saying it's a girl, and uh, and and seeing her
for the first time. She was a tiny little thing,
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you know, she was only just over six pounds like
I was when I was born, really small and uh.
And then I got to go out to uh the
family of my family and Seawanna's family is all waiting
and and I was like, it's a baby, and they
were like, like they hated me so much in that moment.
(38:23):
And then I got to tell everyone that that we
had Lily, that it was Lily, it was a girl,
and it was awesome, man, it was it was Uh,
did you most excellent?
Speaker 5 (38:31):
Did you have any like guesses, like, but did you
think it might be a girl.
Speaker 4 (38:36):
Or everyone everyone guesses. Everyone thinks they know what it
is because of this and because I like, what was
belly is like the crescent.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
Phase and then so that means that it's.
Speaker 4 (38:47):
A boy girl girl boy. Nobody knows you just I
don't know. It's all everyone had a guess.
Speaker 3 (38:55):
It was pretty much fifty percent boy guesses and fifty
percent girl guesses.
Speaker 4 (38:59):
And guess what if everybody was right? So like you know.
Speaker 3 (39:05):
So, but but like I enjoyed the anticipation of it.
I enjoy it doesn't make me, you know, for as
anxious as I can be, it doesn't make me anxious.
Speaker 4 (39:15):
It's I find it enjoyable, the suspense. It's fun.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
So now back at the house, Eric's overwhelmed and neglects
to consider Annie's crisis.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
Okay, So then we come back to the house and
Eric finally makes his way to the bedroom where Annie
has been holed up for the day, aggrieving alone and
uh and and does his best to apologize for not
being there for her and and because he had because
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of reasons, because of all of these things as couple,
and he should have been there and oh my god,
I had to deal with all this stuff, and almost
in his apology forgetting the real fact that you know,
she's been alone this whole time, with some with heavy grief.
And so again, Catherine delivers in this scene with some
(40:08):
righteous quiet anger, which is the scariest kind of anger,
but still being an excellent in the way that the
show was written, where like everyone is still a great
communicator even though they're angry, because when you get angry,
communication is usually the first thing that goes out the window,
and everyone just is yelling and saying nothing. But instead
Catherine says I'm feeling a little bit abandoned right now,
(40:32):
and brings the whole point of the episode to a
kind of a point, which is at a great scene
and gives Eric a proper opportunity to apologize and be sorry.
Speaker 5 (40:41):
Yeah, this is what happens when David actually watches the episode.
After this, there's a little scene with Simon and Ruthie
at the top of the fictitious stairs. He's again, you know,
still trying to figure out the actual location of heaven,
and then you know it's basically you know where you
are when you are no longer alive. But then he
(41:02):
expands it to where you are before you were born,
and Ruthie says, well, I was in my mommy's tummy
before I was born. But then he's like, well, where
were you before one of them says, where were you
before you were in your mommy's tummy?
Speaker 4 (41:14):
This is Ruthie's insight though not Si.
Speaker 3 (41:16):
Yeah, yeah, this is your opportunity to be to be
kind of to shine above your station and show that
you're a little a little baby who has insight into
the world.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
Yes.
Speaker 5 (41:28):
So so then you know, it's just the concept of
where where you are before you exist in any form?
Speaker 3 (41:34):
I think, Yeah, it's a clever it's a very it's
it's a it's a point.
Speaker 2 (41:39):
To cyclic nature of life in general.
Speaker 3 (41:42):
Yeah, I know it's saying is that, like, this point
has been made in this metaphysical conversation at large. But
the clever thing that the show does is have you
make the point because you're the youngest.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
You're the the closest true birth.
Speaker 5 (41:55):
Yeah, so the nature in the closest one to the
period that we're talking.
Speaker 4 (42:00):
At, that is the clever piece.
Speaker 6 (42:04):
You know. I have a crazy kind of off the subject,
but I all circle back on this is I did
Celebrity ghost Stories because I did a haunted I did
a movie at a haunted insane asylum, and I went
back with Celebrity ghost Stories to that insane asylum and
while I was walking through talking about ghosts and all
these metaphysical things. At the very very end, the medium said,
(42:25):
are you pregnant? And this is when the cameras weren't rolling,
and I said, nope, definitely not. And she said there
is a little girl and she's coming and she's been
waiting for her opportunity.
Speaker 1 (42:34):
She's coming soon. I got pregnant the next month.
Speaker 6 (42:37):
So the little girl was like before her. Yeah, and
that was Kenzy. Isn't that crazy, though, Well, you asked
for it, I guess.
Speaker 1 (42:48):
To get pregnant.
Speaker 6 (42:49):
Yeah, no, I which would in stane asylum. I definitely
didn't ask her to get pregnant.
Speaker 3 (42:54):
You know.
Speaker 6 (42:54):
It was kind of it was, but it was also
crazy because she also brought up my friend who passed
away and said that she was the angel that was
protecting me while I was on set and kept telling
to ward off the bad spirit, saying no, no, no.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
She's safe. There were no bad spirits on our set.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
No, on my am I haunted. Yes, there were. There's
a lot of bad spirits somewhere alive after you.
Speaker 2 (43:16):
You have you ever seen a ghost or things? Because
I I don't like they don't I don't feel never
have seen a ghost or felt anything like whatsoever close
to this.
Speaker 4 (43:26):
Save it for Halloween, guys.
Speaker 5 (43:29):
Okay, So then when we come back, Eric is at
the church with the couple who is having this you know,
really important marriage crisis of paperwork, and they're renewing their
vows and sort of in between you haven't seen, you know,
Eric can kind of see Annie sitting in the pews
watching this, and it's almost as if Eric and Annie
are at the same time renewing their vows with each
(43:51):
other as as the couple is actually going through that ritual.
Really it's only eye contact between Annie and Eric.
Speaker 2 (44:00):
Dialogue, but.
Speaker 5 (44:03):
You see the resolution of their feelings of being disconnected
with each other, and you know, a lot of the
watery eyes in that one.
Speaker 2 (44:12):
I think, ye no.
Speaker 5 (44:17):
As the couple reaffirms their love, it sort of brings
Annie and.
Speaker 3 (44:23):
Eric's Yeah, we we re rack focus, which is a
thing like a technical kind of cinematography thing that they
do in film. They rack from the couple renewing their
vows to Annie in the background, who's mouthing the vows
along with them, but to Eric and so they which
(44:46):
is a great way for her to forgive him for
him not being there for her through the day, and
so they get that that moment of connection and forgiveness
and uh, and we kind of reaffirm their love while
we reaffirmed the couples love all the same time.
Speaker 4 (45:03):
Nice little bow.
Speaker 2 (45:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (45:05):
So then we come back and Matt walks into the
backyard to find Jeff and Mary playing this happy game
of basketball, and he says, guys, like, from what I've seen,
you know, that's what what kissing can lead to, and
I really think that you should break up. And I
I'm just and then they're like, Okay, yeah, that sounds good,
(45:25):
and I think it's just it's really kind of funny
how Matt is the one in charge of like Mary
and Jeff's relationship and they just go along with.
Speaker 2 (45:32):
It the time. We're just like, all right, yeah, yeah,
whatever you.
Speaker 5 (45:34):
Think is best for us to do, that's fine, we'll
do that, Matt. And then like they continue just going, yeah,
we'll do that, we'll do that.
Speaker 2 (45:41):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (45:43):
Well, instead of like, instead of breaking down the drama
of the day to him, they decide to just let
him let him think that he decided. Yeah, And so
they give him that victory and laugh knowingly about it
and it's cute.
Speaker 1 (45:57):
Yeah, to keep between the two of them.
Speaker 6 (46:03):
I think this is a yeah the end of up
which is very sweet, where like we have we're all
kind of diving into the pie. I remember that pie
actually too.
Speaker 3 (46:12):
I have fleeting memories of I remember of the team
coming up to smear pie face.
Speaker 2 (46:19):
This one. This wasn't when we ate. This was a
different pie eating scene. But there was another.
Speaker 1 (46:23):
One, the blueberry pie.
Speaker 2 (46:25):
This was the blueberry pie eat scene.
Speaker 1 (46:27):
Yes, it is a blueberry pie eating scene.
Speaker 5 (46:29):
I remember being smeared all over my face that the scene.
I remember having to eat it and then just like
hurl it into a bucket.
Speaker 2 (46:35):
And that's the thing, because that still is That one
was that early.
Speaker 5 (46:40):
That scene was probably my least favorite scene ever in
the history of the show.
Speaker 3 (46:45):
You look like a little doll from a horror movie.
Speaker 6 (46:51):
This is also another I felt like I was in
a spot.
Speaker 1 (46:55):
Where we break into song.
Speaker 4 (46:58):
Yeah, and then for whatever reason.
Speaker 2 (47:00):
Well.
Speaker 5 (47:02):
I'm upstairs singing Grandma's song with with.
Speaker 4 (47:08):
And then you.
Speaker 2 (47:11):
Off, you know.
Speaker 5 (47:12):
For as much screen time as the pie eating God,
I really feel like they made us eat pie. When
we were shooting that, it felt like we had to
be eating pie for hours.
Speaker 6 (47:21):
I think this was also the early and then it's
just like this a master. This was the early days
when it wasn't necessarily we weren't all great at understanding,
like because everything tasted good the first bite PI.
Speaker 1 (47:35):
The first bite, yeah, three hundredth bite.
Speaker 6 (47:39):
We all wanted to die before.
Speaker 4 (47:43):
But when you're eating food on camera, yeah, you just
don't do it just no better.
Speaker 3 (47:50):
So you want it because remember every time on every
shot that you're seeing it, you have to take the
same bite at.
Speaker 1 (47:56):
The same time, same amount.
Speaker 3 (47:57):
So if you're sitting there it's real hungry before you
start that scene and you're like, oh great, I'm gonna
eat pie. By the four hours later, when you're still
shooting that scene, still eating pie, it's the same pie.
Speaker 1 (48:10):
It's not like a new pie. It's not a fresh
it's the same one pie. It's the same nasty.
Speaker 3 (48:14):
Sometimes they got some backup PI is ready to be.
Speaker 4 (48:19):
Mix but it's not fun.
Speaker 6 (48:21):
But then yeah, so then but then it is that
moment where after you're upstairs singing with mom and you're
singing Grandma's song and then we can hear it downstairs
and we all kind of break out into song. I
did not realize how much music was involved in our
show and how much singing.
Speaker 3 (48:41):
Yeah, it's we're on like episode four and we've had
like three times we've broken into song different There's Mary
and Stephen doing the hoedown.
Speaker 1 (48:51):
Yeah, there's trying to break up.
Speaker 4 (48:54):
There's the pie song.
Speaker 6 (48:55):
Yeah, there's there's a church song when she sings the.
Speaker 3 (49:00):
Church number that Renee does. There's I mean, we're already
like we're one for one on singing, which honestly is
something I blocked out of my memory completely because I
still was shocked when when I remembered when we were
doing the real musical stuff and I panicked and was like,
I don't want to sing.
Speaker 4 (49:18):
Good question, We've been doing it the whole time.
Speaker 1 (49:20):
Is there going to be a song in episode five?
Speaker 6 (49:23):
We will have to find out, so be sure to
stay with us next week.
Speaker 5 (49:28):
There's another scene though, how for in two weeks there's
the grandpa. Yeah, Grandpa coming back and he apologizes to
Ann ye hold on the episode over, Yeah, so so
Grandpa actually finally he comes back to the house, that's right,
and he apologizes to Annie and they have this really
touching moment. I think it's in Annie's bedroom, and it's
(49:48):
before the singing, I believe, because that's how it ends.
And he says that he didn't actually make it to Phoenix,
and then he went to the cemetery and sat there
for two hours, and I think he says that he
really didn't say much at all because Jenny has heard
all of his jokes already. Very sweet, you know, he
(50:09):
tells Annie that he's never really been very good at
at dealing with that sort of thing. And the wrap
up of that little disaster at least relationship wise, yeah, it's.
Speaker 4 (50:22):
A great It's a great way to tie up Annie's.
Speaker 3 (50:25):
And that's when they start an abandonment, which is the
core theme of the episode, and having her dad come
back and apologize for for not being there for her
in that in the family's moment.
Speaker 6 (50:37):
Of need, and also that circling back too of that
everyone deals with grief differently, and some want to be
surrounded by people and some want to be alone. And
in that moment, like he's recognizing that Annie needed him,
but he also he needed to do what he needed
to do in those moments too, So it's also this
kind of this very sweet understanding.
Speaker 5 (50:58):
Of taking care of yourself, yes, and taking care of
others exactly.
Speaker 1 (51:04):
Yeah, And then.
Speaker 2 (51:05):
We have Kanada shut up.
Speaker 4 (51:09):
Yeah. It's the thing is, can we sing Grandma's favorite song?
Speaker 2 (51:12):
It turns out to be camp which turns.
Speaker 3 (51:14):
Out to be this this like campy, like what is
this song?
Speaker 4 (51:19):
Do we? Does anyone?
Speaker 5 (51:20):
I don't know, but it's been stuck in my head
my whole life. And maybe this is why is it
not a song? It strikes because I have it very
solidly in here, and I've like hummed it from wrong
about it in my life.
Speaker 4 (51:33):
But I feel like the melody is a classical melody.
Speaker 3 (51:38):
Then the camp Granada song is like a spoofy kind.
Speaker 4 (51:42):
Of lyrical addition to it. I think at a later time.
Speaker 5 (51:45):
I probably so much to practice for shooting that that
I feel like.
Speaker 3 (51:50):
It's like a Looney Tunes type song. It seems like
something from like the Animaniacs, like a bugs Bunny or
something thing.
Speaker 4 (52:00):
I don't know, we'll see.
Speaker 1 (52:03):
Maybe that's a w B. Yeah, maybe that's a w
B strip.
Speaker 4 (52:06):
Looney Tunes was Warner Brothers. Yeah, yeah, so I mean,
you know that's I don't know.
Speaker 3 (52:11):
I don't know the history of the song, but I
seem to think that the melody is older than the
spoofy kind of lyrics to it.
Speaker 4 (52:17):
I don't know if it's if that's true, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (52:19):
All I know is I know it very well.
Speaker 4 (52:21):
Yeah. It's one of those melodies that everyone should know
or be familiar with.
Speaker 1 (52:25):
You definitely do.
Speaker 4 (52:26):
The song is actually.
Speaker 1 (52:27):
Called yeah Hello Mana Hello Fa.
Speaker 2 (52:31):
I think.
Speaker 1 (52:37):
No, no no no, no no no no no no.
Speaker 2 (52:39):
It is based on Dancity Hours.
Speaker 4 (52:42):
Italian Thank you.
Speaker 3 (52:46):
I was correct another point, it's a classical melody that
was rebranded as a goofy song.
Speaker 4 (52:56):
Wow.
Speaker 6 (52:57):
On that note, David is right, and we are gonna
wrap this episode up, so be sure to like us,
follow us, push all the buttons.
Speaker 1 (53:09):
Thank you so much for listening, and catch us next time.
On catching up with the Camdens.
Speaker 4 (53:14):
Peace,
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