September 1, 2025 • 52 mins
Superfan Caroline Moss is back on the pod with Mack, David and Bev to break down another classic episode of 7th Heaven: “Now You See Me” to discuss metaphorical (and literal) invisibility as well as (mostly literal) cheerleading! Caroline also gets Mack, Bev and David to answer more fan questions!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
I mean, David just needs to figure out on Instagram.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
So I'll catch you.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
That was that?
Speaker 4 (00:13):
Hey, I built you up pretty damn good. I got
you a solid. I got you a solid following off
the start.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Well, should we dive in? We should?
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Mac take us off?
Speaker 3 (00:31):
What's up?
Speaker 5 (00:32):
We're back with another episode of Catching up at the Camdens.
This time we're gonna go over an episode where you
see tries out.
Speaker 6 (00:40):
The truer lening Tam.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Do you want to introduce yourself? Oh?
Speaker 6 (00:42):
Yeah, I am Mackenzie Rosmond.
Speaker 5 (00:44):
And I was on the show called Seventh heeven I
played the youngest daughter, Ruthie Camden and.
Speaker 6 (00:54):
He's one of them.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
And I am should I yes, and I and then
I'm on it.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
I was on it too, I.
Speaker 6 (01:02):
Remember just the greatest, the greatest.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
Thank you, Caroline.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Welcome to our circus.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
I'm so happy to be back.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Welcome back.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
I mean, you knew what the circus was, so you
we appreciate you joining the madness that is this couch.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Happy to be here.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
You look fabulous.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
You guys all agree to and I love these outfits.
What episode are we diving into?
Speaker 7 (01:32):
This is Season one, episode eleven, of seventh seven called
now You See Me?
Speaker 4 (01:36):
Oh, oh, yes, this has and there's a lot to
that with the now you See Me.
Speaker 8 (01:42):
Yes, there's a lot wordplay, wordplay from your writing team.
Speaker 6 (01:47):
So blind people, just kidding, I make no sense at that.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Let's let's go, let's save us, save us for ourselves.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
So what do we do in this episode?
Speaker 8 (02:02):
Care?
Speaker 7 (02:03):
So we open up and uh, right off the bat,
Lucy announces she is going to try out for the
cheerleading team.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Oh yes, this is when we realized and.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Truly her family could not be your family.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Took me this long to realize that Lucy was a clut.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
I didn't but I.
Speaker 5 (02:21):
Don't think I was doing handstands in the first episode.
Speaker 6 (02:23):
But I don't think I was.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
A clutz until like this episode.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
All of a sudden, I like, can't put two feet
in front of the other.
Speaker 7 (02:30):
It became like your main personality traits in this episode.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
It did, and it was so But.
Speaker 6 (02:37):
She was a coachable klutz because you had to turn around.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
I did beg yeah, I learned how to walk.
Speaker 7 (02:43):
You did, so you're excited about Yeah, all of a
sudden you then fall down in the kitchen. Yeah, like
immediately like I'm trying off the cheerleading team and then
you like fall, it's another stunt.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
But I do have to say that was fun.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
Is I actually really loved the physical acting like I
loved like being like that was fun for me. So
I definitely threw myself on the floor quite a lot.
Speaker 7 (03:06):
Was being a cheerleader at all like a thing that
you were interested in as like a fourteen year old?
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Fun fact, I was a cheerleader and the reason why
this episode exists was because it was taken from my
life and and those cheerleaders were all of my my
cheerleading squad really, and that uniform was my high school uniform,
the Shamanad Eagles. David knows because David went to Shamanad
(03:35):
as well. And so you not that you were checking
out the cheerleaders, but you recognize.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
That cheerless.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
But you knew that uniform because that was our I
was familiar.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Wait, how does something like that work?
Speaker 7 (03:52):
How do they say like, okay, and you're gonna wear
your uniform and all of your friends are going to
be in the because they so nice to us.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
It's called that's what Beverly. When when they were gonna
do these episodes.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
I was like, whoa, I want my squad and I
want my friends to do it and I.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
And they said okay.
Speaker 6 (04:11):
A lot of times.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
Yeah, and so I was able to I worked with
production and was able to like get all my friends
onto the episode. And then the reason why we were
using the uniform is because trying to get those uniforms
is actually like kind of a real pain on the
butt and they're hard to get there's they're fitted and
they take weeks and weeks to get.
Speaker 8 (04:32):
That's how Bev sold them on it. She was like,
we all got the uniforms already, we just.
Speaker 6 (04:36):
Saving money the department.
Speaker 5 (04:39):
But like a lot of times when we would have
classroom scenes, they would let us invite our real friends
in real life to be extras in the classroom and
that was that made our day at work so much
fun because our actual.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
Friends got there and then they made a little money too, and.
Speaker 6 (04:53):
It was awesome.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Yeah. So a lot of times we.
Speaker 6 (04:56):
Had siblings sometimes our.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
Families are yeah, our families and friends as extras and
so yeah, so that was that was fun. But the
orange and blue was for the shamanat Eagles.
Speaker 7 (05:07):
Wow, Okay, that's like an actual that's like something say
I did not know, Wow, welcome, Now you know what Mac?
Speaker 3 (05:16):
What were your siblings extras?
Speaker 5 (05:18):
I think my brother was my friend, my best friend,
Chaz uh was an extra a few times.
Speaker 6 (05:26):
You know, we were the same age.
Speaker 5 (05:27):
But I think I'm pretty sure Chandler may have been
an extra in some things too.
Speaker 7 (05:32):
But were you guys like were did you go to
a school with a lot of kids who were also
acting or was this like were you like no, the
one and only in the school?
Speaker 5 (05:42):
Well, we would all we were all like in at
least for myself. We were in a mix of private
school some year and then homeschool programs other years. It
was really difficult for like the public school system to accommodate,
you know, packaging up the occasional stuff for sets. So
we couldn't really go to public schools as much as
(06:05):
like David, especially in high school. I know he really
wanted to go to the school with his friends and
you weren't able to.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
But so you followed.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
We were in a class room of one Tom and
then everybody came.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Actually everybody tried Shama.
Speaker 6 (06:22):
Yeah, actually we all went to I went for one year,
but they asked me not to come back.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
But I I think, but I when I went to.
Speaker 6 (06:29):
I was just too good of a student honestly for
that school.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
Was when I went to Shamanad, I was actually their
first actor. Uh so I was the I was the
first one there, so they had to kind of figure
out the system with me. And then after that that's
when a lot of other actors actually ended up coming.
Speaker 5 (06:48):
So this is you being the leader because we we
established that like badly would get something after somebody else did,
like the hummer and the cars. But you were the
leader this time. You were the first one and we
all followed you.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
I guess that would be true, yes, because I was
the oldest and I was.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Yeah, so I went to.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
And the reason why this started was I was at
Shamanad Middle School when I got seventh heeven really and
so I didn't want to leave and I wanted to
stay with my friends. And that is why I transitioned
to Shamad High School and they kind of worked out
a system and actually a lot of people came after me,
(07:32):
like Jesse came. Uh, Jonathan Taylor Thomas also came.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
David, you were there, Mack, you tried it.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
There's but there was quite a few actors that actually
ended up going there just because they had figured out
how to work with us and and make it a
decent experience where we were able to actually have a
bit of high school like you know, I and and
there the one year actually I tried with which was
(08:04):
this season when I was trying to be a cheerleader
as well as being on the show full time, which
I don't know how the heck I even managed to
do it, but I went to practices and did everything,
and that's when I was really trying to do it all.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
And then after that year, I did.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
Not make the squad again because I could not commit
to being at all the games because obviously I had
to work on Fridays.
Speaker 7 (08:29):
That's kind of okay, That's like very eye opening for
me as a person who watched the show. I would
have never guessed, were you like a klutz in real life?
Where did that come from? Or they just needed to
have like a storyline where like maybe you wouldn't make
the team who you ask?
Speaker 2 (08:44):
I mean?
Speaker 4 (08:44):
Brenda's one of Brenda's like most famous and things that
she likes to remember the most is years later, I
had a beer pong party at our house, and I
did tend to be a little klutzy, and so at
one point I was wearing a helmet. Brenda thinks that
for the rest of my life, I should wear a helmet.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
So I think there is.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
The writers were trying to tell you.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
If you ask my husband, he will definitely say that
I am a bit of a clets and I should
not play sports. So and Brenda does her favorite memory
is me sending a picture of me in a helmet
and she's like, you should wear that.
Speaker 6 (09:20):
But your children are all very athletic.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
I know, they do not take after me take credit.
They don't. They don't take after me.
Speaker 6 (09:26):
But so it skipped a generally.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
But Kenzie just did her first play and she did
a phenomenal job and I was really impressed.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
And actually it's horrifying actually because she was actually so good.
I was like, what is happening?
Speaker 3 (09:38):
I don't know if I'm comfortable with this.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
But anyway, back to the episode.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
So there are a few storylines happening.
Speaker 7 (09:44):
One is Matt has a new girlfriend who we meet
and then never see again. Yeah, you're trying out for
the cheerleading squad. Simon is trying to become invisible a Jedi.
Speaker 6 (09:58):
I love the music too.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
I'm trying to trying to become invisible, and every.
Speaker 7 (10:03):
Time learn important lesson about circles.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Yeah, you know, I don't know.
Speaker 8 (10:12):
It's Simon's gimmick in it is more of just a
gag and it's supposed to be cute and funny, and
so it's I get the light the light handed part
of this pun right for the title, and uh, but
obviously the a storyline is more about Matt and his
girlfriend and and the kind of her, her family, her
(10:35):
familial issues.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
Yeah, her bears, you know, basically not recognizing that being
not her existence, and and what their divorce is doing
to her, which again another heavy topic, divorce.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Yeah, the way Matt less of a hammer this time?
Speaker 3 (10:54):
No, less of a hammer.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Yeah, I don't think there was. The hammer wasn't really there.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Yeah, we put the hammer down, We.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
Put the hammered and we guys, you know what, we
use the hammer on the episode before.
Speaker 7 (11:04):
Yeah, this was I think probably a light hearted departure
from the rubber Gammer.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (11:09):
Last week, Yeah, so the everyone's at church. Eric is
making a passionate has a passionate sermon using a Robert
Frost quote that Matt's friend that Annie suggests he wants
to use the road left traveled. She's like, that's basic exactly.
(11:32):
She's like, don't do that. That's embarrassing to me.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (11:36):
And Matt's girlfriend's very taken by this, and it's like
very clear that she is. He really likes her and
she really likes your family.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (11:52):
So everyone's sitting around the dinner table and she asks
Eric to quote to like repeat parts of his serf Oh.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
Yes, and then oh yeah, and then she like runs
away crying, and it was like a little much.
Speaker 7 (12:06):
Yeah, it was it was a lot match. I thought
it was just like, yeah, she runs away.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Nice Caroline. I was trying to be nice. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
Yeah, there was a yeah, she picks up and leaves
and she's crying.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
And then I think that's when Annie like.
Speaker 6 (12:19):
Says, that's like she's the one.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Yeah, yeah, she's the one. After last week, it was
like that last week he was going to go on
a she trip with like, you know, right, what's happening.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
There's always there every week there's a new one.
Speaker 9 (12:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (12:32):
But I think emotionally, Seventh Heaven was always really heavy handed,
and I thought that was like it's nice.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Like like glad you liked it.
Speaker 7 (12:39):
It was no emotions stifled making of this television shadow. Yeah,
and Mary's being really mean to Lucy about the merits
of cheerleading.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Yeah, she definitely did not understand how.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
But you know what, after this break, we will dive
into the true athleticness of cheerleading because it is truly
a sport. Stop laughing people, Okay, after this break, we're
coming back. We're back, all right, let's let's let's dive
(13:16):
deeper into what what what happens next?
Speaker 7 (13:21):
So, so, like we said, Mary is sort of judging
the merits of cheerleading, oh see, because she's a real
athlete she plays basketball.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Yeah totally.
Speaker 5 (13:31):
And Eric like halfway agrees with her too, but he
definitely does.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
But there was actually something very sweet that when she
was revealing the reason why she didn't want Lucy to
do it was because the other cheerleader who this now
spot was open, had gotten hurt and had fallen from
a stunt.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Yeah, so broke her collar bone and broke her collarbone.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
And I think it was actually sweet because you realize
that it's not necessarily like she's just poo pooing cheerlead,
but that she thinks it's too dangerous and that Lucy
can get hurt, and so it's out of a sisterly
love versus a I don't believe in cheerleading.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
It was actually there was more to it.
Speaker 4 (14:11):
And also having been a cheerleader and being the one
who was thrown up in the air and I was
the flyer.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Cheerleading is extremely dangerous and there are a lot.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
Of people who did get really hurt because you have
to trust your bases and make sure that everyone's gonna
catch you when you come down, and that's not always.
Speaker 6 (14:29):
I would be too scared to do it.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
I too scared.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
You know. I definitely did my fair share of basket
losses and I definitely was.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Thrown up in the air quite a lot.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
And I think once production realized what I was doing,
they were like, I don't think that this should be.
Speaker 6 (14:45):
Get moved to the list of sports we weren't allowed
to do.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
You know what, the contract may have changed to cheerleader
because I don't think.
Speaker 7 (14:51):
Okay, wait, say more about this. There were there were
things you guys couldn't do.
Speaker 6 (14:56):
Yes in your contract.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
I'm play sure Jesse broke all of that.
Speaker 5 (14:59):
Yeah, Look, they don't want you getting hurt because then
you know, they have to shoot half of you or
none of you. You know, it's it's it's inconvenient if
an actor dies doing something dangerous halfway through.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
Yeah, I think contracts to ski, we were supposed to snowboard.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
There were so many things.
Speaker 5 (15:17):
So we were like a lot of these things were
like things that kids are supposed to be able to do,
like ride bikes. But the one time I when I
was learning how to ride a bike, I thought I
could jump the curb, so I went straight at the curb.
Forgot that you're supposed to I didn't know that you're
supposed to like lift up. I thought the bike just
magically went up, and I, you know, sailed over and
like skinned half my face off. U looked like two
(15:38):
face and we had to shoot around that. So I
can see why they put these things in the contract.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
Wow, I too, it happened, if you I do.
Speaker 6 (15:47):
I know my mom wouldn't let me look at it
in the mirror.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
I mean, we all at one point did something that
we weren't supposed to probably have done, especially in that
the claws where it's like skiing awarding and whatnot. But
I mean, I think what it's in there is basically
saying like, is you know, because so many people rely
on us showing up, Like you have hundreds of people
(16:12):
that are reliant on you being able to come to work.
Speaker 6 (16:15):
Why you don't take sick days?
Speaker 4 (16:17):
Never take a sick day. There's no such thing as
a sick day. You have too many people that are
reliant on you. Because that's a big insurance.
Speaker 6 (16:23):
Study that's.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
Not from experience.
Speaker 6 (16:31):
Depends.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Okay, okay, where do we go from here?
Speaker 7 (16:38):
Well, and now we are at the meet of this episode.
You meet TIA's mother. Yeah, and you see that Matt's
girlfriend actually has this sort of tumultuous home life. She's
the only child of parents who are getting divorced, really
self involved parents. Yeah, and her mom is like drops
her off at the Camden's house and is like on
(16:59):
her like massive Zach Morris phone the entire time. And
she also said her mom says the craziest line. And
I was wondering if any of you caught this. She
she like she's a real estate agent and she asks,
like how much Annie paid for the house, right to
which she replies, this, you know, it's the church's house.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
We don't pay for it, my husband's and minister. And
then she says, oh, wow, I've heard men of the
cloth are really hot.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (17:30):
Her parents were so horny.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
And it's such an awkward I was like, that's so lot.
Speaker 6 (17:38):
I want to marry into that family, you know. Like Okay, she.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
Was like, if your husband knows anyone, I have him
call me.
Speaker 7 (17:46):
Like, yeah, her pastors are really hot and I like,
literally my jaw like unhinged and to the floor.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (17:55):
And they do it with both parents through the episode
where they make them both just so.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
Like little horny divorce.
Speaker 8 (18:01):
Yeah, it's so they're they're perfect for each other.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
Guys, I think we did bring the hammer. The hammer
was like nailing on that one. I think that's where
where we may have hammered.
Speaker 7 (18:15):
But what I appreciated was Tia Matt's girlfriend seems very
embarrassed by her parents, and what teenager can't relate to.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
That absolutely, And I think also what teenager, I think
who's coming from a broken home can relate to, you know,
finding safety and security at a house that's loving and
kind with a family who is supportive. And so I
think I also really related to that because you know,
(18:44):
in my teens, my parents were getting a divorce, and
I remember just like never wanting to be at home
and always wanting to be at my friend's house.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
And that's where like she.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
Kind of like found safety and security and love and
wanting to be a Camden. And I think Annie says, like,
you know, she does don't want to be married, she
just wants to be a Canden. Or actually, I think
is it Simon who says it? You say something about
I think you have some.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
Great line, I say.
Speaker 8 (19:09):
I say my line is something along the lines of
like she needs a family or something.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Oh, she doesn't need to Oh. I think, yeah, there's something.
Speaker 8 (19:17):
I think that's what I say. Somebody does say she
wants to be a Canden. I don't know, I remember
if it's me.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
I did just watch the episode.
Speaker 7 (19:23):
I know at some point Annie say, oh, Matt says
he thinks she's the one, and Eric is like, well,
that's you know, that's something, and Annie's like, I think
she likes all of us Camden's.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Equally like that's that's a stinger.
Speaker 7 (19:40):
But Simon, your character throughout the show was always looking
to adopt kids. You were always like asking if the
random kids that your family was helping. Could like, could
we just have could we just adopt keeper?
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Can we keep her?
Speaker 4 (19:56):
Simon is, well, you just were so sweet and you
just wanted everyone to I feel loved.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
You were just you were a good kid.
Speaker 4 (20:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
I like to think it was done with love, hopefully.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
I think I think collecting kids.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Yeah, it's strange, no doubt.
Speaker 7 (20:13):
And then we meet TIA's dad later. So, uh, Matt
and Ti are hanging out in the living room. Eric
and Annie are like, it's kind of time for you
to go home, and She's like great, Like I have
my car and I'll drive myself.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Home, and then her dad in the car right and
leaves in the car.
Speaker 7 (20:31):
Her dad calls the Can's house at at two thirty
in the morning. And something I noticed in this watch
that I definitely didn't notice when I was like eleven
watching is that when he's when the dad is calling
Eric and Annie, he's like just standing in his kitchen
cleaning wine glasses.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Was that a girl was in the backdrop?
Speaker 3 (20:50):
Yes? There was, Yeah, he has Yeah, he had a
lady caller.
Speaker 7 (20:55):
Yeah, and uh, you know, definitely doesn't seem like he
came is like like and it's like Eric and Annie
jump into more action than this girl's own father does.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
Yea.
Speaker 7 (21:07):
They find her in the car sleeping outside, and that's
kind of when they realize like something's going on at home.
Speaker 8 (21:13):
I think that the second conversation is the funny one
where the setup is awkward enough, with him and his
date like cleaning their wineglasses, like they just finished their date.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
It's that post date where's my kid?
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Two am?
Speaker 8 (21:26):
But then when Eric calls him back and he's like, oh, yeah,
I have her, she's right here, and do you want
to I mean, you know, do you want to talk
to her?
Speaker 2 (21:33):
He's like it's fine.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
He's like no, no, no.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
She's okay to put you out or something like that.
He says like, oh thank god, yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
And then he goes back. He might as well have
just been like smoking a cigarette, honestly.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Yeah, I mean it was that's pretty much what he
was doing.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Yeah, yeah, pretty much. It was. It was a weird
like cigarette and bed kind of scene.
Speaker 6 (21:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
It had a real gen X vibe to it too.
Speaker 6 (22:01):
What's a singles compound?
Speaker 3 (22:04):
Oh? Yeah, do you want to talk about that?
Speaker 6 (22:06):
I don't know what it is.
Speaker 5 (22:07):
Like, there's a compound a place where single people live
so it's easier to meet other single people.
Speaker 6 (22:12):
Like, that's where the mom wants to move to. What
is she talking?
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Yeah, that's what you're talking.
Speaker 6 (22:15):
She's talking about like those apartments, and I think she's.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Talking about Oakwood Apartment.
Speaker 6 (22:19):
That's what I was gonna say. It's an Oakwood apartments?
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Is that it?
Speaker 7 (22:23):
I mean, I feel like divorce is the divorce rate
was sky high in the nineties, and I bet it
was like everybody who everyone whose parent moved out had
to like move to the Congress.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Yeah, for everyone who doesn't live in LA.
Speaker 8 (22:35):
The Oakwood Apartments is where all of the actors go
to typically will S when you come in.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
For pilacy focus child actors with their parents.
Speaker 8 (22:46):
Yes, yes, but if you town seasonally in LA trying
to get a job, you typically try to stay at
the oak Woods.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
It's central, That's what.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
And the joke is also that's where like every like
if you would ride a passage.
Speaker 7 (23:04):
I learned about the Oakwood Apartments when I watched Ashley
Simpson's uh oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah, because that's where
she lived.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Yeah Ashley, yes, her too, she yeah.
Speaker 7 (23:14):
Her so left her and then when I lived in
LA briefly and my friends would come visit me, they
were like, can we drive by the No, that's funny.
Speaker 8 (23:23):
Yeah. I guess they were infamous in their own way.
When when my family first came to LA when I
was young, my parents were like, we're not staying at
the Oakwood Apartments over here, but we stayed at the.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Other Oakwood Apartments.
Speaker 8 (23:35):
I think it's Century City or there's another one that's
in a different part of LA every state.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
It's not the one that.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
We're the Singles Complex.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Yeah, well that's basically what it.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
They knew better. I guess my parents were like.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Nah, they chose correctly.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
Yeah, yeah, we'll take a break and then we will
come right back.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Let's dive back in.
Speaker 7 (24:06):
So Eric is now kind of going to meet TIA's
dad and try to sort of be like, don't you
care about your daughter?
Speaker 3 (24:16):
And he's just like.
Speaker 8 (24:18):
He's very tacadent, like wood like wood clad office. You know.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
I was trying to figure out.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
I'm like, did the secretary of the set or was
that I think that was a location because we didn't
we never had that much would I was just like, damn,
I know, because but I was like thinking about it.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
I was literally thinking.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
About Florida ceiling Walnut Office, like it was very the bar.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
I think it.
Speaker 4 (24:46):
I think it was a location because we I don't
think that was ever built, because otherwise.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
We would have had that would have been in the church.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Maybe it could have been.
Speaker 4 (24:55):
It could have been in the church. We might have
to go back to the church and check that out
and see if yeah, like locate it. All right, all right,
well that'll be a mission on another is the same
in the church?
Speaker 6 (25:07):
Church?
Speaker 1 (25:08):
We did shoot at a real church?
Speaker 3 (25:09):
Yeah, uh, it was in the valley, right, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
Hollywood, No, North Hollywood.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
I don't drive anywhere Holly Studio city.
Speaker 4 (25:20):
It's North Hollywood Studio city.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
Cold facts. You are way, I didn't drive.
Speaker 6 (25:26):
We established that.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Why are you guessing?
Speaker 6 (25:29):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Okay, we're off topic.
Speaker 7 (25:33):
We don't even go to the So Eric is at
this office. Yeah, and he's very scandalized. But by what's
happening here Teas Dad's like a high pair of powered attorney.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
He's like on the phone. Both of these parents are
constantly on the phone.
Speaker 6 (25:46):
Peter Gallagher to him, does any kind of.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
Sorry, oh, Peter, Peter Gallagher vibe. Yeah, a little bit
like the eyebrows.
Speaker 6 (25:57):
Something like that. Anyways, and Eric.
Speaker 7 (26:01):
Is like, I can't believe these people don't care about
their kid, and uh, he realizes they're gonna have to
go one step further to get them to pay attention
to their daughter, hence the now you see me title,
And then they kind of take a little bit of
a breakaway from that and we get to Lucy's gymnastics montage.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Oh you mean my rocky moment, Yes.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
Your rocky montage.
Speaker 4 (26:26):
Yeah, I remember doing this with Barry. It was at
the church. We actually did it in actually where we normally.
Speaker 8 (26:33):
Ate, did we did we, by the way, completely skip
over your cartwheels in the yard?
Speaker 2 (26:40):
We might have because I got I had a nice chuckle.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
Great yea.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Physical humor.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
I mean, I want to say that I told you
I really enjoyed the physical humor and I really love
And by the way, did you see this sting on
my knees from how hard I hit the ground and like.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
You really do kind of just flop over?
Speaker 1 (27:12):
Yeah, I was. I went, I went for it.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
But the rocky montage, I remember doing it being like
because because at the time I was a cheerleader, and
I was like, you guys, you don't do this in cheerleading.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
They're like, we don't care.
Speaker 4 (27:27):
And I was like, I don't have to jump over
a pommel horse for cheerod.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
Yeah, it was very gymnastic.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
It was a lot of confusion on what I needed
to do. And I was definitely like laughing because I
was like this is not but all right, and then
Barry's just.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Like lean in, just just go and.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
And I just remember Barry and I just having a
blast just being like super dumb and stupid and.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Just havn we did.
Speaker 4 (27:54):
We had like a whole like it was a lot
longer than it should have been. And I also really
appreciate the sweat stains that magically appeared, and like the
pit stains and the like next stane.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
I was like, all right, yeah, yeah, that's when real sweat.
Speaker 7 (28:11):
Also, the the the tripping over your like untied shoes.
Speaker 6 (28:17):
Yeah I don't remember that.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
Yeah, because I mean there's again we really had to
establish and beat over the head that she was a
real klutz.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
Yeah, so you know.
Speaker 7 (28:27):
Which you're somehow doing a worse cartwheel in the gym
than you did out in the yard.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
You've your going back.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
Well, it was a little it was a little bit
harder to do on a because I was actually doing
it on like a balance beam too. Really, I was
didn't I have to do it?
Speaker 7 (28:44):
I don't remember not a cartel on the balance are
walking balance, you're doing the rings, which are a men's gymnastics.
Speaker 4 (28:51):
Again, I think the rings were because they were trying
to get me stand on the like so that Barry
can like be the base.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
Again, it didn't make a lot of sense. But it's fine,
it's fine, you know.
Speaker 7 (29:02):
We find it was really cute, and I remember watching
this montage as an eleven year old thinking like that
is so cool.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Oh I want to I'm glad.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
Oh my god.
Speaker 7 (29:12):
Yeah, that's why I thought, like that's why I said
this episode because I remember this.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
No, that's funny, and your car wheels were amazing at
the end.
Speaker 8 (29:21):
I mean, it makes you feel better. I was watching
it like, yes, trading for cheerleading or whatever.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
You know, it's not what we do.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
But I also just remember too just looking at myself
being like, oh my god, I was like this like
tiny skinny mini and I just looking at my like
my tiny little body, and I was like, I think
this is like I'm staring at my daughter, like who's like,
you know now eleven And I was like, this is.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
This is weird. How old were you here, BEV?
Speaker 1 (29:48):
So I was fifteen?
Speaker 4 (29:51):
Oh wow, yeah, so yeah I was fifteen playing twelve.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
Play Yeah, yeah, as one does, as one does.
Speaker 7 (30:00):
Yeah, well that scene is very cute and I felt
like you and Matt got some.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
Little bond.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
Yeah, it was.
Speaker 4 (30:12):
It was a fun that was I do remember that
being fun and I that's that's definitely an episode that
will always like hold something special in my heart for sure.
Speaker 7 (30:22):
What was it like did you guys like having uh,
like who was your favorite person to film with?
Speaker 3 (30:30):
Who was your favorite like scene partner?
Speaker 1 (30:32):
My favorite scene partner was Jess And yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
Me and Mac were a team from from day one.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Yeah, I think it was. It was also like when
we were close in age.
Speaker 4 (30:43):
It was just because that was like your peer and
so you had like the most in common with and.
Speaker 8 (30:48):
Who they paired you with the most as well. Exactly
you girls were always together doing together.
Speaker 6 (30:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (30:55):
Yeah, favorite Barry was always fun to work with to
because we never knew what we were going to get
with Barry. Yeah, because well, no, because he's always so
like he There's some actors where sometimes you can predict
like how they're going to do a scene, but with Berry,
like I felt like Barry was always just like would
(31:16):
choose something totally different and would like that was what
was always fun, is because Barry was just always so
it was.
Speaker 6 (31:23):
A wild card. Yeah, and that made it interesting.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
Yeah, yeah, it was.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
It was so much fun.
Speaker 7 (31:28):
Did you have scenes or things that you guys didn't
like doing, like, I don't how did you dread the
church scenes?
Speaker 3 (31:34):
Did you? Yes?
Speaker 6 (31:35):
And dinner table scenes?
Speaker 1 (31:37):
Oh, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (31:39):
Honestly, any scene that required all of us together was
like a lot of fun and also terrible.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
At the same time.
Speaker 4 (31:45):
It was fun we'd like to be together, but like
exhausting because they were like the scenes that took the longest.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (31:51):
I mean, for context, if we were at the church,
we might do one scene all day, like so that
one scene will take the entire and you.
Speaker 5 (32:01):
Know, like also cars, so you're usually dressed for like
the opposite season that it actually is. So car scenes
were super sweaty because you know, you're locked in a car.
The car can't be on you can't have air conditioning.
You know, you're just dying in there. The church was
also really hot because like you're getting ally, you're wearing
your church clothes, which for them was like a suit
(32:21):
and tie, and it was like ninety five degrees in there.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
So with a lot of bodies.
Speaker 4 (32:27):
Yeah, and then you add not only the bodies that
you see, but also all the bodies that are.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
Behind, lots of extras to reset the whole crew as well.
Speaker 8 (32:34):
Yeah, those those big scenes are just like I said,
they take all day. But like, I don't know, I
personally never it didn't matter to me if we did
two or three scenes in a day or one long
scene all day, Like it was kind of all the
same to me, you know.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
I don't know, that's how I felt about it.
Speaker 8 (32:52):
I was always like, it's a church day, you get
to sit in the church all day.
Speaker 6 (32:56):
And I didn't like that.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
Bring him a game boy?
Speaker 3 (32:59):
What do you?
Speaker 4 (33:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (33:00):
Yeah, definitely we got so the first season. Our hair dresser,
uh gave us all game boys.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
Actually, it's so nice she did. Really, Lana, I don't
think I got one.
Speaker 5 (33:15):
Well, you weren't young enough. Maybe you knew how to
sit still. But it was partially to make her job.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Yes you did not get a game Boy?
Speaker 3 (33:21):
Yes she did.
Speaker 6 (33:21):
Did you do you remember this? We got that game
Boy Classic.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
A lot of game Boys.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (33:27):
It was like when the first one was out, and
like for me, I had to sit in a hair
chair forever because they curled every single strand of hair
on my head. And I'm like a five six year
old with eighty d so that was rough. I got burned,
like totally my fault each time. Anyways, I think we
need to take a break, right, yep, yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
We'll be right.
Speaker 6 (33:47):
More about burns.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
We're back.
Speaker 7 (33:55):
Tia is in the girls bedroom and Matt is starting
to figure out that she doesn't want to spend time
with him, starting to catch on to what the rest
of the family already.
Speaker 6 (34:07):
Know of a dope.
Speaker 7 (34:08):
Sometimes yeah, and he's like, hey, do you want to
hang out? And she's like not really, like I want
to hang out your sisters and he's like cool, cool
leaves and uh. Simon is still on his mission to
be invisible. He thinks the reason why it's not working
is because Happy he keeps following him around and it's
(34:28):
giving him away.
Speaker 8 (34:29):
Which I think is probably to me, was like the
funniest take of my gag because each time we do
Simon's invisible gag, it's really we're just redoing it. It's
the same gag, but him going like you know, and
I turn it happy and I'm like, if you're following
me around, then.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
You know this would work. And I was like, that's
pretty funny, like kid logic.
Speaker 5 (34:47):
Do you remember that being a kid and like thinking
that when you close your eyes, no one could see
you because I do, which is cute.
Speaker 6 (34:54):
Yeah, very cute and very.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
Related moment.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 7 (35:05):
There's a passionate uh makeout in bed with Annie and Eric,
which I did not like as a kid.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
No, I don't think anybody wants to watch parents make out.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
It's weird. Weird.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
Yeah, we're subject to it. Like I feel like every
episode in the beginning, I.
Speaker 4 (35:22):
Didn't realize how much they made out to be honest
until like rewatching, I'm.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Like, oh it, He's like, go get a room. Oh
they got a room? Do I have to watch it?
Speaker 2 (35:32):
Kiss? Smacky?
Speaker 4 (35:33):
Yeah, there's a lot of and also yeah, because Annie
wants to be.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
Surprised and she wants to be like kind of.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
Romance.
Speaker 8 (35:46):
Yeah, yeah, there be storyline is that she she was
reminiscing about dating and about the spontaneity or about the surprises,
and and she wants some some romance. And so I
think that the show was trying to do from the
beginning was to in order to show the healthy American family.
(36:08):
Part of that was that the parents were still passionate
with each other, that they were in love. Yeah, and exactly.
They weren't sterile parents that were dealing with the kids
problems all day. They had their own passions and they
loved each other.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
And so that the show.
Speaker 8 (36:25):
Sometimes it's not the best part of the show, but
you know, at times there are times where it works
great and you know, and there are other times where
it's a little Yeah.
Speaker 5 (36:37):
Well, in later years it was just the kids making
out with their various boyfriends and.
Speaker 8 (36:41):
Well kind of about the gate and very started off
strong with the makeouts. There's lots of making out. I
don't know, it's a very nineties TV thing, isn't it.
Speaker 7 (36:49):
Maybe it was definitely like, well sex and is like
is like appropriate if you're married and like you can
do whatever you want with your spouse kind of thing.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
And I was like, I get it, but I'm also eleven,
and I don't know that.
Speaker 7 (37:05):
There's a very sweet scene, another sweet scene with Lucy
and Matt.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
As she's getting ready for her tryout.
Speaker 4 (37:14):
Yes when uh yeah, I think when Lucy comes out
of the bathroom and is upset, saying that she'll never
be a cheerleader and it's not because she's klutzy, but
because she's not pretty enough. And it's a very sweet
scene where Matt kind of pulls her into the bathroom
(37:34):
and basically like you know, tries to build up her
self confidence. I wish it was something that you can
just say one time and someone magically, you know.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
Oh yes, I'm beautiful and I can absolutely do this.
Speaker 4 (37:47):
But I do think it was It's a sweet brother
sister moment of like, you know, showing how much impact
you can have on your siblings by like supporting, and
I think being an only child, I definitely, like, you know,
I appreciated this scene so much in that like that moment,
(38:07):
and I also just loved that they because I feel like,
up until then they never really had that like relationship,
so it was really fun to like kind of show
this like Matt and Lucy kind of connection and having
him believe in her and support her in a way
that he did.
Speaker 3 (38:25):
That's what I remember really seeing.
Speaker 5 (38:27):
Example of what a supportive big brother could look like.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 7 (38:33):
I remember being like, oh, she's so lucky, because like
everyone wanted like a cool, older place, So why were.
Speaker 5 (38:38):
More like, gosh, this mac guy is awesome, you know,
because he was the sweetest, because she was.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
In love with the family.
Speaker 4 (38:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (38:45):
Even in the it goes on to the next scene,
which is your tryout, and even when it pans to
the crowd of the family sitting, Matt and Mary are
sitting together and then behind them is Tia and Simon.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
Oh that's funny.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
I don't know, that's right. Yeah, she's sitting with me
in the in the stands.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
That's funny.
Speaker 4 (39:04):
You know what's funny about that too, is I went
from I realized like I didn't like take it lightly
when I went to the tryout, like I went like
full cheer mode, Like I was like, I did like
full like cheerface.
Speaker 3 (39:16):
I saw that like I went, yeah, you were doing it.
Speaker 4 (39:19):
You know, like I was like, but I was like
I forgot that like at that moment, I was not
I was supposed to be acting and not supposed to
be like my cheerleader self. And I definitely was like, oh,
that was a mis cue on my part, Like I
really should have like toned it down a little bit
and really family so good aggressive, and I was like.
Speaker 6 (39:40):
I I thought I thought it was.
Speaker 4 (39:44):
It translates better when you're on a football field and
you're a little bit further away from people, but when
you have a camera and people are a lot closer.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
You're in the close. I was really aggressive, but it was.
Speaker 4 (39:56):
It's really fun because as I'm sitting back watching, I'm
looking at like, you know, some of my best friends
and reminiscing on you know, some really special girls who.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
Are in my life, some who aren't here anymore.
Speaker 4 (40:12):
And so it was really kind of a pretty cool
moment to kind of relive a little bit and and
just you know, encapsulated. Yeah, it was just it was
a it was a special and it's great because it's
now like if I'm missing those people, like I can
go back and watch that scene and that's kind of
(40:33):
like a really cool, weird, strange, odd gift.
Speaker 3 (40:37):
It definitely hits different to watch knowing these are your friends.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
Absolutely. Yeah, Yeah, So that was that was that was
really cool.
Speaker 3 (40:46):
But I don't know that we ever see you on
the cheerleading Nope.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
That's it.
Speaker 3 (40:50):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
It never happens again. Nope, which is so seventh heaven.
Speaker 7 (40:54):
Yes, I love that. Everyone's just like you're at the
top of the period pyramid. You ostensibly make the team.
Speaker 4 (41:04):
Of course I make the team and then and then
apparently get dropped off the team because we never do cheerleading.
Speaker 5 (41:09):
And there's also a little thing too, like where Matt
reminds Mary wasn't you know Matt was part of the
reason that Mary got on the basketball because he helped her,
did the same sort of thing with her.
Speaker 1 (41:19):
Yeah, which I so then we established good big brother.
Speaker 3 (41:23):
He's a good big brother.
Speaker 7 (41:24):
And then comes that big, sort of all encompassing scene
where Eric and Annie trick TIA's parents into coming by
saying they have someone they want them to introduce. She
They're like, we want you to meet someone, and they
both think they're coming and getting set up on the intervention.
Speaker 4 (41:44):
Yes, yes, which is again very seventh time, and that's
like the typical.
Speaker 2 (41:48):
They know how to stage a good intervention.
Speaker 4 (41:50):
And then the introduction of their daughter, Tia, who finally
like kind of sets the tone and says, you know,
basically like that she yeah.
Speaker 6 (42:02):
Yeah, that she feels invisible, she wants.
Speaker 1 (42:06):
To be seen.
Speaker 7 (42:09):
And don't we all you know, Yeah exactly. And I
think a lot of people's parents were getting divorced in
the nineties. I mean I had like a lot of
friends whose parents were getting divorced. Yeah, and I think
this episode probably hit home for a lot of people.
Speaker 1 (42:24):
Yeah, I think.
Speaker 4 (42:25):
And I also think it was an interesting take also
for the parents to realize, like as much as they're
trying to kind of get back into figuring out who
they are, the recognition that, you know, there is another
life that they need to be paying attention to and.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
Checking in on.
Speaker 7 (42:42):
Yeah, someone was advocating for like the kids, Yeah exactly,
because I think, you know, that's what happens, and divorce
is it just you know, there's there's collateral damage.
Speaker 1 (42:54):
And I think that that's what this episode kind of.
Speaker 5 (42:56):
We could have done more divorced episodes with different angles
of it, like using the kids against each other and
ya ya yeah, oh yeah. I mean honestly, maybe she
was lucky that her parents didn't notice her, because it
could have been like she could have been a pawn.
Speaker 1 (43:10):
It definitely could have been worse.
Speaker 7 (43:12):
Yeah, And the episode ends with Mary giving Lucy a
sports bra.
Speaker 1 (43:18):
Oh, I mean, isn't that the greatest gift of all?
Speaker 4 (43:20):
Thank you so much you gave me, because now I
think it's also she says something like because now, like
I'm an athlete.
Speaker 7 (43:29):
Yeah yeah, She's like, cheerleading is a sport and you
need the sports bra.
Speaker 2 (43:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (43:34):
Yeah, it's cute.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
It's yeah, it's cute. It's odd, but it's cute.
Speaker 4 (43:40):
But you know what, hey, I mean at least she
acknowledged her, So I think that's sweet.
Speaker 2 (43:45):
I'm sure.
Speaker 4 (43:46):
I'm sure Jesse had some we had some fun with that.
Speaker 1 (43:50):
I did notice that there was a mistake though.
Speaker 4 (43:52):
Actually I think in this episode where was it?
Speaker 1 (43:56):
There was like a hair there was a hair mishap,
and I was like, oh, her hair was.
Speaker 3 (44:00):
Down and now her hair hair continuity.
Speaker 6 (44:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:02):
I was really excited about like finding it, but now
I forgot where it was. But I was. I love
finding those, I know, I love finding mistakes. It makes
me happy, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (44:10):
Yeah, smarter than someone.
Speaker 3 (44:15):
And at the very end, Eric takes Annie up on
the roof and they.
Speaker 1 (44:18):
Say and they sing because we are.
Speaker 2 (44:21):
A musical because there's not enough singing on the show.
Speaker 6 (44:24):
David's favorite part about the show.
Speaker 1 (44:26):
But you know what I was shocked by.
Speaker 4 (44:27):
I was like excited. I was like, Catherine's singing and
she sounds.
Speaker 2 (44:31):
Great, as she does in every episode. Catherine's killing it.
Speaker 1 (44:35):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:36):
Season one is the season of Catherine.
Speaker 1 (44:38):
Is the star. I think she definitely stole the show
for me.
Speaker 4 (44:42):
But like her singing, I was like, oh my god,
I don't remember Catherine singing, and.
Speaker 2 (44:46):
She's they harmonize. It's very it's very sweet.
Speaker 1 (44:48):
Yeah, it's a cute.
Speaker 5 (44:51):
In real life, Catherine will break out into song occasionally.
Speaker 4 (44:55):
Actually, real life Catherine would do a lot of things
that nobody was expecting.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
Catherine's a character.
Speaker 1 (44:59):
She's our favorite.
Speaker 2 (45:00):
She is even more entertaining in person.
Speaker 1 (45:03):
Oh she is the best.
Speaker 7 (45:05):
I hope there is one day an oral history of
the musical episode.
Speaker 1 (45:09):
Oh, we'll get there. I don't know what episode that is,
but we will get there, the.
Speaker 3 (45:17):
Whole the one that's all of you who sang your song.
Speaker 8 (45:20):
Maybe when we review that episode, I'll just get up
and walk away.
Speaker 4 (45:24):
There is there's a lot that we don't remember. I
think I have a block on it, so that you've
blocked that out. Yeah, I think there's a lot that
I blocked out, so it's revisiting. This has all been
quite fascinating.
Speaker 7 (45:37):
Can I ask you guys a question before I know,
because we're wrapping up, but can I ask what your
favorite the one memory each of you have that sticks
out the most of shooting this show?
Speaker 6 (45:52):
H M, I don't know. I would say breakfast.
Speaker 4 (46:03):
The one memory that I would say that I've held
Titus too is kind of like a downer memory, but
was the episode of when Lucy's friend dies. And I
think the reason why was not actually because the scene
was so emotional, but more so because it was my
(46:27):
first actual dealing with something that I was dealing with
it on the show, but like I was actually more
dealing with it in person. And I remember the strange
thing that I was more comfortable being vulnerable and letting
everything out because I was on set, which is where
(46:47):
I felt safe, and I was with the people I
felt safe with. I was with all of my crew,
I was with my cast mates, I was with my
safety net, and so I think having that ability to
let go was straight, which is strange because most people
like to do it in private, but apparently I like
(47:08):
to do it in front of cameras and but in
front of people. But was like that was something that
was really special and I was really grateful for because
that was actually the only time that I let myself
grieve and I just did it in a but I again,
it's kind of a downer moment, but it was like,
I remember, it was a pivotal moment in my life,
(47:29):
and I got to do it with my family on
Seventh Heaven.
Speaker 1 (47:34):
So I guess, well, I'm that happiness.
Speaker 5 (47:37):
It's hard to one, yeah, I mean, there are so
many memories for each of us that, like it is
really hard to pick just one, you know.
Speaker 8 (47:49):
Yeah, I mean for me, there's a few episodes that
I usually lean on for this kind of question, and
like the Simon's Drunk episode and things like that, things
were my work was either unique or important to the episode.
The Holocaust episode is another one. But another like a
fun answer to this that I haven't used on the
pod really is probably the episode where Simon wins the
(48:11):
Viper and so like that that always stands out to me.
When I was a kid, I loved cars, but I
didn't I always loved American cars and so, uh you know,
I I kind of infamously was obsessed with the with
the Plymouth Prowler. I loved the Dodge Viper and I
but when we had uh so they incorporated that into
this episode. And but that day on set, it was
(48:33):
the first time I'd ever seen one, let alone, got
to sit in it and drive in one, and uh
and I remember they they had us Steven and I
like we hop into it, like over the doors instead
of opening the door to get in, and like and
then we speed off down the street together because we
only get to take like a little joy ride in it.
But but I remember feeling like a million bucks that
(48:56):
day because like one of my dream cars was sitting
on set and it was there for me. I just
take a ride. So it was one of those moments
where I felt really cool. Uh you know, I remember
it fondly.
Speaker 6 (49:10):
I remember that episode that was awesome.
Speaker 3 (49:14):
Mac.
Speaker 7 (49:14):
I have to my friend told me I couldn't tell
you this. Of course, now I'm going to tell you this.
She the episode where you stick a tiktac up your nose. Yeah,
she was inspired by that and stuck a battery up
her nose.
Speaker 3 (49:36):
It was a triple A.
Speaker 6 (49:37):
Yeah, yeah, the same thing.
Speaker 3 (49:42):
Yeah, and she had to get it. She had to
go to the.
Speaker 2 (49:46):
Oh my god, all your fault.
Speaker 1 (49:48):
Apparently we weren't always the best influence.
Speaker 7 (49:50):
No listen, lessons were learned across the vast spectrum.
Speaker 1 (49:56):
Sticks or batteries.
Speaker 7 (49:58):
Up your I think she's I I always wondered. I
was like, but but I was like, you know, she's
took a tic tac. That's different. I didn't have a
tic tac. I had a battery.
Speaker 1 (50:08):
Resourceful.
Speaker 6 (50:13):
You know what I used to do.
Speaker 5 (50:16):
I used to stick things up my nose to make
myself sneeze because I realized that at the height of
a sneeze, it feels really good, like there's a euphoria
that you get, and so I would like stick you
know the little like plastic things that clothing tags are
attached to, that little plastic you know thing, right, Yeah,
(50:37):
that's perfect for sticking up your nose around It's not.
Speaker 2 (50:42):
It's not everybody.
Speaker 4 (50:44):
Don't the children, anybody who's listening to a pod, please
do not stick anything up your nose.
Speaker 6 (50:49):
You can also use your hair.
Speaker 3 (50:53):
On that note.
Speaker 1 (50:54):
This has been a glorious.
Speaker 4 (50:56):
Episode of Catching up with the can in Carolina thing.
Speaker 1 (51:00):
Thanks so much for joining us.
Speaker 3 (51:02):
Thank you for having me. This was amazing.
Speaker 4 (51:04):
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Speaker 2 (51:21):
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Speaker 3 (51:23):
Oh my gosh, this was the best, BEV. Thank you
for asking me.
Speaker 2 (51:27):
A guided tour, Caroline.
Speaker 1 (51:29):
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Thank you so much, and I can't wait to hear
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Speaker 4 (52:00):
If you don't, you your
I mean, David just needs to figure out on Instagram.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
So I'll catch you.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
That was that?
Speaker 4 (00:13):
Hey, I built you up pretty damn good. I got
you a solid. I got you a solid following off
the start.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Well, should we dive in? We should?
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Mac take us off?
Speaker 3 (00:31):
What's up?
Speaker 5 (00:32):
We're back with another episode of Catching up at the Camdens.
This time we're gonna go over an episode where you
see tries out.
Speaker 6 (00:40):
The truer lening Tam.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Do you want to introduce yourself? Oh?
Speaker 6 (00:42):
Yeah, I am Mackenzie Rosmond.
Speaker 5 (00:44):
And I was on the show called Seventh heeven I
played the youngest daughter, Ruthie Camden and.
Speaker 6 (00:54):
He's one of them.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
And I am should I yes, and I and then
I'm on it.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
I was on it too, I.
Speaker 6 (01:02):
Remember just the greatest, the greatest.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
Thank you, Caroline.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Welcome to our circus.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
I'm so happy to be back.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Welcome back.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
I mean, you knew what the circus was, so you
we appreciate you joining the madness that is this couch.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Happy to be here.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
You look fabulous.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
You guys all agree to and I love these outfits.
What episode are we diving into?
Speaker 7 (01:32):
This is Season one, episode eleven, of seventh seven called
now You See Me?
Speaker 4 (01:36):
Oh, oh, yes, this has and there's a lot to
that with the now you See Me.
Speaker 8 (01:42):
Yes, there's a lot wordplay, wordplay from your writing team.
Speaker 6 (01:47):
So blind people, just kidding, I make no sense at that.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Let's let's go, let's save us, save us for ourselves.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
So what do we do in this episode?
Speaker 8 (02:02):
Care?
Speaker 7 (02:03):
So we open up and uh, right off the bat,
Lucy announces she is going to try out for the
cheerleading team.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Oh yes, this is when we realized and.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Truly her family could not be your family.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Took me this long to realize that Lucy was a clut.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
I didn't but I.
Speaker 5 (02:21):
Don't think I was doing handstands in the first episode.
Speaker 6 (02:23):
But I don't think I was.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
A clutz until like this episode.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
All of a sudden, I like, can't put two feet
in front of the other.
Speaker 7 (02:30):
It became like your main personality traits in this episode.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
It did, and it was so But.
Speaker 6 (02:37):
She was a coachable klutz because you had to turn around.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
I did beg yeah, I learned how to walk.
Speaker 7 (02:43):
You did, so you're excited about Yeah, all of a
sudden you then fall down in the kitchen. Yeah, like
immediately like I'm trying off the cheerleading team and then
you like fall, it's another stunt.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
But I do have to say that was fun.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
Is I actually really loved the physical acting like I
loved like being like that was fun for me. So
I definitely threw myself on the floor quite a lot.
Speaker 7 (03:06):
Was being a cheerleader at all like a thing that
you were interested in as like a fourteen year old?
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Fun fact, I was a cheerleader and the reason why
this episode exists was because it was taken from my
life and and those cheerleaders were all of my my
cheerleading squad really, and that uniform was my high school uniform,
the Shamanad Eagles. David knows because David went to Shamanad
(03:35):
as well. And so you not that you were checking
out the cheerleaders, but you recognize.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
That cheerless.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
But you knew that uniform because that was our I
was familiar.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Wait, how does something like that work?
Speaker 7 (03:52):
How do they say like, okay, and you're gonna wear
your uniform and all of your friends are going to
be in the because they so nice to us.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
It's called that's what Beverly. When when they were gonna
do these episodes.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
I was like, whoa, I want my squad and I
want my friends to do it and I.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
And they said okay.
Speaker 6 (04:11):
A lot of times.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
Yeah, and so I was able to I worked with
production and was able to like get all my friends
onto the episode. And then the reason why we were
using the uniform is because trying to get those uniforms
is actually like kind of a real pain on the
butt and they're hard to get there's they're fitted and
they take weeks and weeks to get.
Speaker 8 (04:32):
That's how Bev sold them on it. She was like,
we all got the uniforms already, we just.
Speaker 6 (04:36):
Saving money the department.
Speaker 5 (04:39):
But like a lot of times when we would have
classroom scenes, they would let us invite our real friends
in real life to be extras in the classroom and
that was that made our day at work so much
fun because our actual.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
Friends got there and then they made a little money too, and.
Speaker 6 (04:53):
It was awesome.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Yeah. So a lot of times we.
Speaker 6 (04:56):
Had siblings sometimes our.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
Families are yeah, our families and friends as extras and
so yeah, so that was that was fun. But the
orange and blue was for the shamanat Eagles.
Speaker 7 (05:07):
Wow, Okay, that's like an actual that's like something say
I did not know, Wow, welcome, Now you know what Mac?
Speaker 3 (05:16):
What were your siblings extras?
Speaker 5 (05:18):
I think my brother was my friend, my best friend,
Chaz uh was an extra a few times.
Speaker 6 (05:26):
You know, we were the same age.
Speaker 5 (05:27):
But I think I'm pretty sure Chandler may have been
an extra in some things too.
Speaker 7 (05:32):
But were you guys like were did you go to
a school with a lot of kids who were also
acting or was this like were you like no, the
one and only in the school?
Speaker 5 (05:42):
Well, we would all we were all like in at
least for myself. We were in a mix of private
school some year and then homeschool programs other years. It
was really difficult for like the public school system to accommodate,
you know, packaging up the occasional stuff for sets. So
we couldn't really go to public schools as much as
(06:05):
like David, especially in high school. I know he really
wanted to go to the school with his friends and
you weren't able to.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
But so you followed.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
We were in a class room of one Tom and
then everybody came.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Actually everybody tried Shama.
Speaker 6 (06:22):
Yeah, actually we all went to I went for one year,
but they asked me not to come back.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
But I I think, but I when I went to.
Speaker 6 (06:29):
I was just too good of a student honestly for
that school.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
Was when I went to Shamanad, I was actually their
first actor. Uh so I was the I was the
first one there, so they had to kind of figure
out the system with me. And then after that that's
when a lot of other actors actually ended up coming.
Speaker 5 (06:48):
So this is you being the leader because we we
established that like badly would get something after somebody else did,
like the hummer and the cars. But you were the
leader this time. You were the first one and we
all followed you.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
I guess that would be true, yes, because I was
the oldest and I was.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Yeah, so I went to.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
And the reason why this started was I was at
Shamanad Middle School when I got seventh heeven really and
so I didn't want to leave and I wanted to
stay with my friends. And that is why I transitioned
to Shamad High School and they kind of worked out
a system and actually a lot of people came after me,
(07:32):
like Jesse came. Uh, Jonathan Taylor Thomas also came.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
David, you were there, Mack, you tried it.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
There's but there was quite a few actors that actually
ended up going there just because they had figured out
how to work with us and and make it a
decent experience where we were able to actually have a
bit of high school like you know, I and and
there the one year actually I tried with which was
(08:04):
this season when I was trying to be a cheerleader
as well as being on the show full time, which
I don't know how the heck I even managed to
do it, but I went to practices and did everything,
and that's when I was really trying to do it all.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
And then after that year, I did.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
Not make the squad again because I could not commit
to being at all the games because obviously I had
to work on Fridays.
Speaker 7 (08:29):
That's kind of okay, That's like very eye opening for
me as a person who watched the show. I would
have never guessed, were you like a klutz in real life?
Where did that come from? Or they just needed to
have like a storyline where like maybe you wouldn't make
the team who you ask?
Speaker 2 (08:44):
I mean?
Speaker 4 (08:44):
Brenda's one of Brenda's like most famous and things that
she likes to remember the most is years later, I
had a beer pong party at our house, and I
did tend to be a little klutzy, and so at
one point I was wearing a helmet. Brenda thinks that
for the rest of my life, I should wear a helmet.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
So I think there is.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
The writers were trying to tell you.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
If you ask my husband, he will definitely say that
I am a bit of a clets and I should
not play sports. So and Brenda does her favorite memory
is me sending a picture of me in a helmet
and she's like, you should wear that.
Speaker 6 (09:20):
But your children are all very athletic.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
I know, they do not take after me take credit.
They don't. They don't take after me.
Speaker 6 (09:26):
But so it skipped a generally.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
But Kenzie just did her first play and she did
a phenomenal job and I was really impressed.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
And actually it's horrifying actually because she was actually so good.
I was like, what is happening?
Speaker 3 (09:38):
I don't know if I'm comfortable with this.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
But anyway, back to the episode.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
So there are a few storylines happening.
Speaker 7 (09:44):
One is Matt has a new girlfriend who we meet
and then never see again. Yeah, you're trying out for
the cheerleading squad. Simon is trying to become invisible a Jedi.
Speaker 6 (09:58):
I love the music too.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
I'm trying to trying to become invisible, and every.
Speaker 7 (10:03):
Time learn important lesson about circles.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Yeah, you know, I don't know.
Speaker 8 (10:12):
It's Simon's gimmick in it is more of just a
gag and it's supposed to be cute and funny, and
so it's I get the light the light handed part
of this pun right for the title, and uh, but
obviously the a storyline is more about Matt and his
girlfriend and and the kind of her, her family, her
(10:35):
familial issues.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
Yeah, her bears, you know, basically not recognizing that being
not her existence, and and what their divorce is doing
to her, which again another heavy topic, divorce.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Yeah, the way Matt less of a hammer this time?
Speaker 3 (10:54):
No, less of a hammer.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Yeah, I don't think there was. The hammer wasn't really there.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Yeah, we put the hammer down, We.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
Put the hammered and we guys, you know what, we
use the hammer on the episode before.
Speaker 7 (11:04):
Yeah, this was I think probably a light hearted departure
from the rubber Gammer.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (11:09):
Last week, Yeah, so the everyone's at church. Eric is
making a passionate has a passionate sermon using a Robert
Frost quote that Matt's friend that Annie suggests he wants
to use the road left traveled. She's like, that's basic exactly.
(11:32):
She's like, don't do that. That's embarrassing to me.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (11:36):
And Matt's girlfriend's very taken by this, and it's like
very clear that she is. He really likes her and
she really likes your family.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (11:52):
So everyone's sitting around the dinner table and she asks
Eric to quote to like repeat parts of his serf Oh.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
Yes, and then oh yeah, and then she like runs
away crying, and it was like a little much.
Speaker 7 (12:06):
Yeah, it was it was a lot match. I thought
it was just like, yeah, she runs away.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Nice Caroline. I was trying to be nice. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
Yeah, there was a yeah, she picks up and leaves
and she's crying.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
And then I think that's when Annie like.
Speaker 6 (12:19):
Says, that's like she's the one.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Yeah, yeah, she's the one. After last week, it was
like that last week he was going to go on
a she trip with like, you know, right, what's happening.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
There's always there every week there's a new one.
Speaker 9 (12:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (12:32):
But I think emotionally, Seventh Heaven was always really heavy handed,
and I thought that was like it's nice.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Like like glad you liked it.
Speaker 7 (12:39):
It was no emotions stifled making of this television shadow. Yeah,
and Mary's being really mean to Lucy about the merits
of cheerleading.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Yeah, she definitely did not understand how.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
But you know what, after this break, we will dive
into the true athleticness of cheerleading because it is truly
a sport. Stop laughing people, Okay, after this break, we're
coming back. We're back, all right, let's let's let's dive
(13:16):
deeper into what what what happens next?
Speaker 7 (13:21):
So, so, like we said, Mary is sort of judging
the merits of cheerleading, oh see, because she's a real
athlete she plays basketball.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Yeah totally.
Speaker 5 (13:31):
And Eric like halfway agrees with her too, but he
definitely does.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
But there was actually something very sweet that when she
was revealing the reason why she didn't want Lucy to
do it was because the other cheerleader who this now
spot was open, had gotten hurt and had fallen from
a stunt.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Yeah, so broke her collar bone and broke her collarbone.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
And I think it was actually sweet because you realize
that it's not necessarily like she's just poo pooing cheerlead,
but that she thinks it's too dangerous and that Lucy
can get hurt, and so it's out of a sisterly
love versus a I don't believe in cheerleading.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
It was actually there was more to it.
Speaker 4 (14:11):
And also having been a cheerleader and being the one
who was thrown up in the air and I was
the flyer.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Cheerleading is extremely dangerous and there are a lot.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
Of people who did get really hurt because you have
to trust your bases and make sure that everyone's gonna
catch you when you come down, and that's not always.
Speaker 6 (14:29):
I would be too scared to do it.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
I too scared.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
You know. I definitely did my fair share of basket
losses and I definitely was.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Thrown up in the air quite a lot.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
And I think once production realized what I was doing,
they were like, I don't think that this should be.
Speaker 6 (14:45):
Get moved to the list of sports we weren't allowed
to do.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
You know what, the contract may have changed to cheerleader
because I don't think.
Speaker 7 (14:51):
Okay, wait, say more about this. There were there were
things you guys couldn't do.
Speaker 6 (14:56):
Yes in your contract.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
I'm play sure Jesse broke all of that.
Speaker 5 (14:59):
Yeah, Look, they don't want you getting hurt because then
you know, they have to shoot half of you or
none of you. You know, it's it's it's inconvenient if
an actor dies doing something dangerous halfway through.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
Yeah, I think contracts to ski, we were supposed to snowboard.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
There were so many things.
Speaker 5 (15:17):
So we were like a lot of these things were
like things that kids are supposed to be able to do,
like ride bikes. But the one time I when I
was learning how to ride a bike, I thought I
could jump the curb, so I went straight at the curb.
Forgot that you're supposed to I didn't know that you're
supposed to like lift up. I thought the bike just
magically went up, and I, you know, sailed over and
like skinned half my face off. U looked like two
(15:38):
face and we had to shoot around that. So I
can see why they put these things in the contract.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
Wow, I too, it happened, if you I do.
Speaker 6 (15:47):
I know my mom wouldn't let me look at it
in the mirror.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
I mean, we all at one point did something that
we weren't supposed to probably have done, especially in that
the claws where it's like skiing awarding and whatnot. But
I mean, I think what it's in there is basically
saying like, is you know, because so many people rely
on us showing up, Like you have hundreds of people
(16:12):
that are reliant on you being able to come to work.
Speaker 6 (16:15):
Why you don't take sick days?
Speaker 4 (16:17):
Never take a sick day. There's no such thing as
a sick day. You have too many people that are
reliant on you. Because that's a big insurance.
Speaker 6 (16:23):
Study that's.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
Not from experience.
Speaker 6 (16:31):
Depends.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Okay, okay, where do we go from here?
Speaker 7 (16:38):
Well, and now we are at the meet of this episode.
You meet TIA's mother. Yeah, and you see that Matt's
girlfriend actually has this sort of tumultuous home life. She's
the only child of parents who are getting divorced, really
self involved parents. Yeah, and her mom is like drops
her off at the Camden's house and is like on
(16:59):
her like massive Zach Morris phone the entire time. And
she also said her mom says the craziest line. And
I was wondering if any of you caught this. She
she like she's a real estate agent and she asks,
like how much Annie paid for the house, right to
which she replies, this, you know, it's the church's house.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
We don't pay for it, my husband's and minister. And
then she says, oh, wow, I've heard men of the
cloth are really hot.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (17:30):
Her parents were so horny.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
And it's such an awkward I was like, that's so lot.
Speaker 6 (17:38):
I want to marry into that family, you know. Like Okay, she.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
Was like, if your husband knows anyone, I have him
call me.
Speaker 7 (17:46):
Like, yeah, her pastors are really hot and I like,
literally my jaw like unhinged and to the floor.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (17:55):
And they do it with both parents through the episode
where they make them both just so.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
Like little horny divorce.
Speaker 8 (18:01):
Yeah, it's so they're they're perfect for each other.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
Guys, I think we did bring the hammer. The hammer
was like nailing on that one. I think that's where
where we may have hammered.
Speaker 7 (18:15):
But what I appreciated was Tia Matt's girlfriend seems very
embarrassed by her parents, and what teenager can't relate to.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
That absolutely, And I think also what teenager, I think
who's coming from a broken home can relate to, you know,
finding safety and security at a house that's loving and
kind with a family who is supportive. And so I
think I also really related to that because you know,
(18:44):
in my teens, my parents were getting a divorce, and
I remember just like never wanting to be at home
and always wanting to be at my friend's house.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
And that's where like she.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
Kind of like found safety and security and love and
wanting to be a Camden. And I think Annie says, like,
you know, she does don't want to be married, she
just wants to be a Canden. Or actually, I think
is it Simon who says it? You say something about
I think you have some.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
Great line, I say.
Speaker 8 (19:09):
I say my line is something along the lines of
like she needs a family or something.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Oh, she doesn't need to Oh. I think, yeah, there's something.
Speaker 8 (19:17):
I think that's what I say. Somebody does say she
wants to be a Canden. I don't know, I remember
if it's me.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
I did just watch the episode.
Speaker 7 (19:23):
I know at some point Annie say, oh, Matt says
he thinks she's the one, and Eric is like, well,
that's you know, that's something, and Annie's like, I think
she likes all of us Camden's.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Equally like that's that's a stinger.
Speaker 7 (19:40):
But Simon, your character throughout the show was always looking
to adopt kids. You were always like asking if the
random kids that your family was helping. Could like, could
we just have could we just adopt keeper?
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Can we keep her?
Speaker 4 (19:56):
Simon is, well, you just were so sweet and you
just wanted everyone to I feel loved.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
You were just you were a good kid.
Speaker 4 (20:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
I like to think it was done with love, hopefully.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
I think I think collecting kids.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Yeah, it's strange, no doubt.
Speaker 7 (20:13):
And then we meet TIA's dad later. So, uh, Matt
and Ti are hanging out in the living room. Eric
and Annie are like, it's kind of time for you
to go home, and She's like great, Like I have
my car and I'll drive myself.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Home, and then her dad in the car right and
leaves in the car.
Speaker 7 (20:31):
Her dad calls the Can's house at at two thirty
in the morning. And something I noticed in this watch
that I definitely didn't notice when I was like eleven
watching is that when he's when the dad is calling
Eric and Annie, he's like just standing in his kitchen
cleaning wine glasses.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Was that a girl was in the backdrop?
Speaker 3 (20:50):
Yes? There was, Yeah, he has Yeah, he had a
lady caller.
Speaker 7 (20:55):
Yeah, and uh, you know, definitely doesn't seem like he
came is like like and it's like Eric and Annie
jump into more action than this girl's own father does.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
Yea.
Speaker 7 (21:07):
They find her in the car sleeping outside, and that's
kind of when they realize like something's going on at home.
Speaker 8 (21:13):
I think that the second conversation is the funny one
where the setup is awkward enough, with him and his
date like cleaning their wineglasses, like they just finished their date.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
It's that post date where's my kid?
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Two am?
Speaker 8 (21:26):
But then when Eric calls him back and he's like, oh, yeah,
I have her, she's right here, and do you want
to I mean, you know, do you want to talk
to her?
Speaker 2 (21:33):
He's like it's fine.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
He's like no, no, no.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
She's okay to put you out or something like that.
He says like, oh thank god, yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
And then he goes back. He might as well have
just been like smoking a cigarette, honestly.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Yeah, I mean it was that's pretty much what he
was doing.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Yeah, yeah, pretty much. It was. It was a weird
like cigarette and bed kind of scene.
Speaker 6 (21:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
It had a real gen X vibe to it too.
Speaker 6 (22:01):
What's a singles compound?
Speaker 3 (22:04):
Oh? Yeah, do you want to talk about that?
Speaker 6 (22:06):
I don't know what it is.
Speaker 5 (22:07):
Like, there's a compound a place where single people live
so it's easier to meet other single people.
Speaker 6 (22:12):
Like, that's where the mom wants to move to. What
is she talking?
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Yeah, that's what you're talking.
Speaker 6 (22:15):
She's talking about like those apartments, and I think she's.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Talking about Oakwood Apartment.
Speaker 6 (22:19):
That's what I was gonna say. It's an Oakwood apartments?
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Is that it?
Speaker 7 (22:23):
I mean, I feel like divorce is the divorce rate
was sky high in the nineties, and I bet it
was like everybody who everyone whose parent moved out had
to like move to the Congress.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Yeah, for everyone who doesn't live in LA.
Speaker 8 (22:35):
The Oakwood Apartments is where all of the actors go
to typically will S when you come in.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
For pilacy focus child actors with their parents.
Speaker 8 (22:46):
Yes, yes, but if you town seasonally in LA trying
to get a job, you typically try to stay at
the oak Woods.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
It's central, That's what.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
And the joke is also that's where like every like
if you would ride a passage.
Speaker 7 (23:04):
I learned about the Oakwood Apartments when I watched Ashley
Simpson's uh oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah, because that's where
she lived.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Yeah Ashley, yes, her too, she yeah.
Speaker 7 (23:14):
Her so left her and then when I lived in
LA briefly and my friends would come visit me, they
were like, can we drive by the No, that's funny.
Speaker 8 (23:23):
Yeah. I guess they were infamous in their own way.
When when my family first came to LA when I
was young, my parents were like, we're not staying at
the Oakwood Apartments over here, but we stayed at the.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Other Oakwood Apartments.
Speaker 8 (23:35):
I think it's Century City or there's another one that's
in a different part of LA every state.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
It's not the one that.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
We're the Singles Complex.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Yeah, well that's basically what it.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
They knew better. I guess my parents were like.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Nah, they chose correctly.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
Yeah, yeah, we'll take a break and then we will
come right back.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Let's dive back in.
Speaker 7 (24:06):
So Eric is now kind of going to meet TIA's
dad and try to sort of be like, don't you
care about your daughter?
Speaker 3 (24:16):
And he's just like.
Speaker 8 (24:18):
He's very tacadent, like wood like wood clad office. You know.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
I was trying to figure out.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
I'm like, did the secretary of the set or was
that I think that was a location because we didn't
we never had that much would I was just like, damn,
I know, because but I was like thinking about it.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
I was literally thinking.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
About Florida ceiling Walnut Office, like it was very the bar.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
I think it.
Speaker 4 (24:46):
I think it was a location because we I don't
think that was ever built, because otherwise.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
We would have had that would have been in the church.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Maybe it could have been.
Speaker 4 (24:55):
It could have been in the church. We might have
to go back to the church and check that out
and see if yeah, like locate it. All right, all right,
well that'll be a mission on another is the same
in the church?
Speaker 6 (25:07):
Church?
Speaker 1 (25:08):
We did shoot at a real church?
Speaker 3 (25:09):
Yeah, uh, it was in the valley, right, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
Hollywood, No, North Hollywood.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
I don't drive anywhere Holly Studio city.
Speaker 4 (25:20):
It's North Hollywood Studio city.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
Cold facts. You are way, I didn't drive.
Speaker 6 (25:26):
We established that.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Why are you guessing?
Speaker 6 (25:29):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Okay, we're off topic.
Speaker 7 (25:33):
We don't even go to the So Eric is at
this office. Yeah, and he's very scandalized. But by what's
happening here Teas Dad's like a high pair of powered attorney.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
He's like on the phone. Both of these parents are
constantly on the phone.
Speaker 6 (25:46):
Peter Gallagher to him, does any kind of.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
Sorry, oh, Peter, Peter Gallagher vibe. Yeah, a little bit
like the eyebrows.
Speaker 6 (25:57):
Something like that. Anyways, and Eric.
Speaker 7 (26:01):
Is like, I can't believe these people don't care about
their kid, and uh, he realizes they're gonna have to
go one step further to get them to pay attention
to their daughter, hence the now you see me title,
And then they kind of take a little bit of
a breakaway from that and we get to Lucy's gymnastics montage.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Oh you mean my rocky moment, Yes.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
Your rocky montage.
Speaker 4 (26:26):
Yeah, I remember doing this with Barry. It was at
the church. We actually did it in actually where we normally.
Speaker 8 (26:33):
Ate, did we did we, by the way, completely skip
over your cartwheels in the yard?
Speaker 2 (26:40):
We might have because I got I had a nice chuckle.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
Great yea.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Physical humor.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
I mean, I want to say that I told you
I really enjoyed the physical humor and I really love
And by the way, did you see this sting on
my knees from how hard I hit the ground and like.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
You really do kind of just flop over?
Speaker 1 (27:12):
Yeah, I was. I went, I went for it.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
But the rocky montage, I remember doing it being like
because because at the time I was a cheerleader, and
I was like, you guys, you don't do this in cheerleading.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
They're like, we don't care.
Speaker 4 (27:27):
And I was like, I don't have to jump over
a pommel horse for cheerod.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
Yeah, it was very gymnastic.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
It was a lot of confusion on what I needed
to do. And I was definitely like laughing because I
was like this is not but all right, and then
Barry's just.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Like lean in, just just go and.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
And I just remember Barry and I just having a
blast just being like super dumb and stupid and.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Just havn we did.
Speaker 4 (27:54):
We had like a whole like it was a lot
longer than it should have been. And I also really
appreciate the sweat stains that magically appeared, and like the
pit stains and the like next stane.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
I was like, all right, yeah, yeah, that's when real sweat.
Speaker 7 (28:11):
Also, the the the tripping over your like untied shoes.
Speaker 6 (28:17):
Yeah I don't remember that.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
Yeah, because I mean there's again we really had to
establish and beat over the head that she was a
real klutz.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
Yeah, so you know.
Speaker 7 (28:27):
Which you're somehow doing a worse cartwheel in the gym
than you did out in the yard.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
You've your going back.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
Well, it was a little it was a little bit
harder to do on a because I was actually doing
it on like a balance beam too. Really, I was
didn't I have to do it?
Speaker 7 (28:44):
I don't remember not a cartel on the balance are
walking balance, you're doing the rings, which are a men's gymnastics.
Speaker 4 (28:51):
Again, I think the rings were because they were trying
to get me stand on the like so that Barry
can like be the base.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
Again, it didn't make a lot of sense. But it's fine,
it's fine, you know.
Speaker 7 (29:02):
We find it was really cute, and I remember watching
this montage as an eleven year old thinking like that
is so cool.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Oh I want to I'm glad.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
Oh my god.
Speaker 7 (29:12):
Yeah, that's why I thought, like that's why I said
this episode because I remember this.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
No, that's funny, and your car wheels were amazing at
the end.
Speaker 8 (29:21):
I mean, it makes you feel better. I was watching
it like, yes, trading for cheerleading or whatever.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
You know, it's not what we do.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
But I also just remember too just looking at myself
being like, oh my god, I was like this like
tiny skinny mini and I just looking at my like
my tiny little body, and I was like, I think
this is like I'm staring at my daughter, like who's like,
you know now eleven And I was like, this is.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
This is weird. How old were you here, BEV?
Speaker 1 (29:48):
So I was fifteen?
Speaker 4 (29:51):
Oh wow, yeah, so yeah I was fifteen playing twelve.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
Play Yeah, yeah, as one does, as one does.
Speaker 7 (30:00):
Yeah, well that scene is very cute and I felt
like you and Matt got some.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
Little bond.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
Yeah, it was.
Speaker 4 (30:12):
It was a fun that was I do remember that
being fun and I that's that's definitely an episode that
will always like hold something special in my heart for sure.
Speaker 7 (30:22):
What was it like did you guys like having uh,
like who was your favorite person to film with?
Speaker 3 (30:30):
Who was your favorite like scene partner?
Speaker 1 (30:32):
My favorite scene partner was Jess And yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
Me and Mac were a team from from day one.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Yeah, I think it was. It was also like when
we were close in age.
Speaker 4 (30:43):
It was just because that was like your peer and
so you had like the most in common with and.
Speaker 8 (30:48):
Who they paired you with the most as well. Exactly
you girls were always together doing together.
Speaker 6 (30:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (30:55):
Yeah, favorite Barry was always fun to work with to
because we never knew what we were going to get
with Barry. Yeah, because well, no, because he's always so
like he There's some actors where sometimes you can predict
like how they're going to do a scene, but with Berry,
like I felt like Barry was always just like would
(31:16):
choose something totally different and would like that was what
was always fun, is because Barry was just always so
it was.
Speaker 6 (31:23):
A wild card. Yeah, and that made it interesting.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
Yeah, yeah, it was.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
It was so much fun.
Speaker 7 (31:28):
Did you have scenes or things that you guys didn't
like doing, like, I don't how did you dread the
church scenes?
Speaker 3 (31:34):
Did you? Yes?
Speaker 6 (31:35):
And dinner table scenes?
Speaker 1 (31:37):
Oh, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (31:39):
Honestly, any scene that required all of us together was
like a lot of fun and also terrible.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
At the same time.
Speaker 4 (31:45):
It was fun we'd like to be together, but like
exhausting because they were like the scenes that took the longest.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (31:51):
I mean, for context, if we were at the church,
we might do one scene all day, like so that
one scene will take the entire and you.
Speaker 5 (32:01):
Know, like also cars, so you're usually dressed for like
the opposite season that it actually is. So car scenes
were super sweaty because you know, you're locked in a car.
The car can't be on you can't have air conditioning.
You know, you're just dying in there. The church was
also really hot because like you're getting ally, you're wearing
your church clothes, which for them was like a suit
(32:21):
and tie, and it was like ninety five degrees in there.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
So with a lot of bodies.
Speaker 4 (32:27):
Yeah, and then you add not only the bodies that
you see, but also all the bodies that are.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
Behind, lots of extras to reset the whole crew as well.
Speaker 8 (32:34):
Yeah, those those big scenes are just like I said,
they take all day. But like, I don't know, I
personally never it didn't matter to me if we did
two or three scenes in a day or one long
scene all day, Like it was kind of all the
same to me, you know.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
I don't know, that's how I felt about it.
Speaker 8 (32:52):
I was always like, it's a church day, you get
to sit in the church all day.
Speaker 6 (32:56):
And I didn't like that.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
Bring him a game boy?
Speaker 3 (32:59):
What do you?
Speaker 4 (33:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (33:00):
Yeah, definitely we got so the first season. Our hair dresser,
uh gave us all game boys.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
Actually, it's so nice she did. Really, Lana, I don't
think I got one.
Speaker 5 (33:15):
Well, you weren't young enough. Maybe you knew how to
sit still. But it was partially to make her job.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Yes you did not get a game Boy?
Speaker 3 (33:21):
Yes she did.
Speaker 6 (33:21):
Did you do you remember this? We got that game
Boy Classic.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
A lot of game Boys.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (33:27):
It was like when the first one was out, and
like for me, I had to sit in a hair
chair forever because they curled every single strand of hair
on my head. And I'm like a five six year
old with eighty d so that was rough. I got burned,
like totally my fault each time. Anyways, I think we
need to take a break, right, yep, yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
We'll be right.
Speaker 6 (33:47):
More about burns.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
We're back.
Speaker 7 (33:55):
Tia is in the girls bedroom and Matt is starting
to figure out that she doesn't want to spend time
with him, starting to catch on to what the rest
of the family already.
Speaker 6 (34:07):
Know of a dope.
Speaker 7 (34:08):
Sometimes yeah, and he's like, hey, do you want to
hang out? And she's like not really, like I want
to hang out your sisters and he's like cool, cool
leaves and uh. Simon is still on his mission to
be invisible. He thinks the reason why it's not working
is because Happy he keeps following him around and it's
(34:28):
giving him away.
Speaker 8 (34:29):
Which I think is probably to me, was like the
funniest take of my gag because each time we do
Simon's invisible gag, it's really we're just redoing it. It's
the same gag, but him going like you know, and
I turn it happy and I'm like, if you're following
me around, then.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
You know this would work. And I was like, that's
pretty funny, like kid logic.
Speaker 5 (34:47):
Do you remember that being a kid and like thinking
that when you close your eyes, no one could see
you because I do, which is cute.
Speaker 6 (34:54):
Yeah, very cute and very.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
Related moment.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 7 (35:05):
There's a passionate uh makeout in bed with Annie and Eric,
which I did not like as a kid.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
No, I don't think anybody wants to watch parents make out.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
It's weird. Weird.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
Yeah, we're subject to it. Like I feel like every
episode in the beginning, I.
Speaker 4 (35:22):
Didn't realize how much they made out to be honest
until like rewatching, I'm.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Like, oh it, He's like, go get a room. Oh
they got a room? Do I have to watch it?
Speaker 2 (35:32):
Kiss? Smacky?
Speaker 4 (35:33):
Yeah, there's a lot of and also yeah, because Annie
wants to be.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
Surprised and she wants to be like kind of.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
Romance.
Speaker 8 (35:46):
Yeah, yeah, there be storyline is that she she was
reminiscing about dating and about the spontaneity or about the surprises,
and and she wants some some romance. And so I
think that the show was trying to do from the
beginning was to in order to show the healthy American family.
(36:08):
Part of that was that the parents were still passionate
with each other, that they were in love. Yeah, and exactly.
They weren't sterile parents that were dealing with the kids
problems all day. They had their own passions and they
loved each other.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
And so that the show.
Speaker 8 (36:25):
Sometimes it's not the best part of the show, but
you know, at times there are times where it works
great and you know, and there are other times where
it's a little Yeah.
Speaker 5 (36:37):
Well, in later years it was just the kids making
out with their various boyfriends and.
Speaker 8 (36:41):
Well kind of about the gate and very started off
strong with the makeouts. There's lots of making out. I
don't know, it's a very nineties TV thing, isn't it.
Speaker 7 (36:49):
Maybe it was definitely like, well sex and is like
is like appropriate if you're married and like you can
do whatever you want with your spouse kind of thing.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
And I was like, I get it, but I'm also eleven,
and I don't know that.
Speaker 7 (37:05):
There's a very sweet scene, another sweet scene with Lucy
and Matt.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
As she's getting ready for her tryout.
Speaker 4 (37:14):
Yes when uh yeah, I think when Lucy comes out
of the bathroom and is upset, saying that she'll never
be a cheerleader and it's not because she's klutzy, but
because she's not pretty enough. And it's a very sweet
scene where Matt kind of pulls her into the bathroom
(37:34):
and basically like you know, tries to build up her
self confidence. I wish it was something that you can
just say one time and someone magically, you know.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
Oh yes, I'm beautiful and I can absolutely do this.
Speaker 4 (37:47):
But I do think it was It's a sweet brother
sister moment of like, you know, showing how much impact
you can have on your siblings by like supporting, and
I think being an only child, I definitely, like, you know,
I appreciated this scene so much in that like that moment,
(38:07):
and I also just loved that they because I feel like,
up until then they never really had that like relationship,
so it was really fun to like kind of show
this like Matt and Lucy kind of connection and having
him believe in her and support her in a way
that he did.
Speaker 3 (38:25):
That's what I remember really seeing.
Speaker 5 (38:27):
Example of what a supportive big brother could look like.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 7 (38:33):
I remember being like, oh, she's so lucky, because like
everyone wanted like a cool, older place, So why were.
Speaker 5 (38:38):
More like, gosh, this mac guy is awesome, you know,
because he was the sweetest, because she was.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
In love with the family.
Speaker 4 (38:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (38:45):
Even in the it goes on to the next scene,
which is your tryout, and even when it pans to
the crowd of the family sitting, Matt and Mary are
sitting together and then behind them is Tia and Simon.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
Oh that's funny.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
I don't know, that's right. Yeah, she's sitting with me
in the in the stands.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
That's funny.
Speaker 4 (39:04):
You know what's funny about that too, is I went
from I realized like I didn't like take it lightly
when I went to the tryout, like I went like
full cheer mode, Like I was like, I did like
full like cheerface.
Speaker 3 (39:16):
I saw that like I went, yeah, you were doing it.
Speaker 4 (39:19):
You know, like I was like, but I was like
I forgot that like at that moment, I was not
I was supposed to be acting and not supposed to
be like my cheerleader self. And I definitely was like, oh,
that was a mis cue on my part, Like I
really should have like toned it down a little bit
and really family so good aggressive, and I was like.
Speaker 6 (39:40):
I I thought I thought it was.
Speaker 4 (39:44):
It translates better when you're on a football field and
you're a little bit further away from people, but when
you have a camera and people are a lot closer.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
You're in the close. I was really aggressive, but it was.
Speaker 4 (39:56):
It's really fun because as I'm sitting back watching, I'm
looking at like, you know, some of my best friends
and reminiscing on you know, some really special girls who.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
Are in my life, some who aren't here anymore.
Speaker 4 (40:12):
And so it was really kind of a pretty cool
moment to kind of relive a little bit and and
just you know, encapsulated. Yeah, it was just it was
a it was a special and it's great because it's
now like if I'm missing those people, like I can
go back and watch that scene and that's kind of
(40:33):
like a really cool, weird, strange, odd gift.
Speaker 3 (40:37):
It definitely hits different to watch knowing these are your friends.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
Absolutely. Yeah, Yeah, So that was that was that was
really cool.
Speaker 3 (40:46):
But I don't know that we ever see you on
the cheerleading Nope.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
That's it.
Speaker 3 (40:50):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
It never happens again. Nope, which is so seventh heaven.
Speaker 7 (40:54):
Yes, I love that. Everyone's just like you're at the
top of the period pyramid. You ostensibly make the team.
Speaker 4 (41:04):
Of course I make the team and then and then
apparently get dropped off the team because we never do cheerleading.
Speaker 5 (41:09):
And there's also a little thing too, like where Matt
reminds Mary wasn't you know Matt was part of the
reason that Mary got on the basketball because he helped her,
did the same sort of thing with her.
Speaker 1 (41:19):
Yeah, which I so then we established good big brother.
Speaker 3 (41:23):
He's a good big brother.
Speaker 7 (41:24):
And then comes that big, sort of all encompassing scene
where Eric and Annie trick TIA's parents into coming by
saying they have someone they want them to introduce. She
They're like, we want you to meet someone, and they
both think they're coming and getting set up on the intervention.
Speaker 4 (41:44):
Yes, yes, which is again very seventh time, and that's
like the typical.
Speaker 2 (41:48):
They know how to stage a good intervention.
Speaker 4 (41:50):
And then the introduction of their daughter, Tia, who finally
like kind of sets the tone and says, you know,
basically like that she yeah.
Speaker 6 (42:02):
Yeah, that she feels invisible, she wants.
Speaker 1 (42:06):
To be seen.
Speaker 7 (42:09):
And don't we all you know, Yeah exactly. And I
think a lot of people's parents were getting divorced in
the nineties. I mean I had like a lot of
friends whose parents were getting divorced. Yeah, and I think
this episode probably hit home for a lot of people.
Speaker 1 (42:24):
Yeah, I think.
Speaker 4 (42:25):
And I also think it was an interesting take also
for the parents to realize, like as much as they're
trying to kind of get back into figuring out who
they are, the recognition that, you know, there is another
life that they need to be paying attention to and.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
Checking in on.
Speaker 7 (42:42):
Yeah, someone was advocating for like the kids, Yeah exactly,
because I think, you know, that's what happens, and divorce
is it just you know, there's there's collateral damage.
Speaker 1 (42:54):
And I think that that's what this episode kind of.
Speaker 5 (42:56):
We could have done more divorced episodes with different angles
of it, like using the kids against each other and
ya ya yeah, oh yeah. I mean honestly, maybe she
was lucky that her parents didn't notice her, because it
could have been like she could have been a pawn.
Speaker 1 (43:10):
It definitely could have been worse.
Speaker 7 (43:12):
Yeah, And the episode ends with Mary giving Lucy a
sports bra.
Speaker 1 (43:18):
Oh, I mean, isn't that the greatest gift of all?
Speaker 4 (43:20):
Thank you so much you gave me, because now I
think it's also she says something like because now, like
I'm an athlete.
Speaker 7 (43:29):
Yeah yeah, She's like, cheerleading is a sport and you
need the sports bra.
Speaker 2 (43:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (43:34):
Yeah, it's cute.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
It's yeah, it's cute. It's odd, but it's cute.
Speaker 4 (43:40):
But you know what, hey, I mean at least she
acknowledged her, So I think that's sweet.
Speaker 2 (43:45):
I'm sure.
Speaker 4 (43:46):
I'm sure Jesse had some we had some fun with that.
Speaker 1 (43:50):
I did notice that there was a mistake though.
Speaker 4 (43:52):
Actually I think in this episode where was it?
Speaker 1 (43:56):
There was like a hair there was a hair mishap,
and I was like, oh, her hair was.
Speaker 3 (44:00):
Down and now her hair hair continuity.
Speaker 6 (44:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:02):
I was really excited about like finding it, but now
I forgot where it was. But I was. I love
finding those, I know, I love finding mistakes. It makes
me happy, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (44:10):
Yeah, smarter than someone.
Speaker 3 (44:15):
And at the very end, Eric takes Annie up on
the roof and they.
Speaker 1 (44:18):
Say and they sing because we are.
Speaker 2 (44:21):
A musical because there's not enough singing on the show.
Speaker 6 (44:24):
David's favorite part about the show.
Speaker 1 (44:26):
But you know what I was shocked by.
Speaker 4 (44:27):
I was like excited. I was like, Catherine's singing and
she sounds.
Speaker 2 (44:31):
Great, as she does in every episode. Catherine's killing it.
Speaker 1 (44:35):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:36):
Season one is the season of Catherine.
Speaker 1 (44:38):
Is the star. I think she definitely stole the show
for me.
Speaker 4 (44:42):
But like her singing, I was like, oh my god,
I don't remember Catherine singing, and.
Speaker 2 (44:46):
She's they harmonize. It's very it's very sweet.
Speaker 1 (44:48):
Yeah, it's a cute.
Speaker 5 (44:51):
In real life, Catherine will break out into song occasionally.
Speaker 4 (44:55):
Actually, real life Catherine would do a lot of things
that nobody was expecting.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
Catherine's a character.
Speaker 1 (44:59):
She's our favorite.
Speaker 2 (45:00):
She is even more entertaining in person.
Speaker 1 (45:03):
Oh she is the best.
Speaker 7 (45:05):
I hope there is one day an oral history of
the musical episode.
Speaker 1 (45:09):
Oh, we'll get there. I don't know what episode that is,
but we will get there, the.
Speaker 3 (45:17):
Whole the one that's all of you who sang your song.
Speaker 8 (45:20):
Maybe when we review that episode, I'll just get up
and walk away.
Speaker 4 (45:24):
There is there's a lot that we don't remember. I
think I have a block on it, so that you've
blocked that out. Yeah, I think there's a lot that
I blocked out, so it's revisiting. This has all been
quite fascinating.
Speaker 7 (45:37):
Can I ask you guys a question before I know,
because we're wrapping up, but can I ask what your
favorite the one memory each of you have that sticks
out the most of shooting this show?
Speaker 6 (45:52):
H M, I don't know. I would say breakfast.
Speaker 4 (46:03):
The one memory that I would say that I've held
Titus too is kind of like a downer memory, but
was the episode of when Lucy's friend dies. And I
think the reason why was not actually because the scene
was so emotional, but more so because it was my
(46:27):
first actual dealing with something that I was dealing with
it on the show, but like I was actually more
dealing with it in person. And I remember the strange
thing that I was more comfortable being vulnerable and letting
everything out because I was on set, which is where
(46:47):
I felt safe, and I was with the people I
felt safe with. I was with all of my crew,
I was with my cast mates, I was with my
safety net, and so I think having that ability to
let go was straight, which is strange because most people
like to do it in private, but apparently I like
(47:08):
to do it in front of cameras and but in
front of people. But was like that was something that
was really special and I was really grateful for because
that was actually the only time that I let myself
grieve and I just did it in a but I again,
it's kind of a downer moment, but it was like,
I remember, it was a pivotal moment in my life,
(47:29):
and I got to do it with my family on
Seventh Heaven.
Speaker 1 (47:34):
So I guess, well, I'm that happiness.
Speaker 5 (47:37):
It's hard to one, yeah, I mean, there are so
many memories for each of us that, like it is
really hard to pick just one, you know.
Speaker 8 (47:49):
Yeah, I mean for me, there's a few episodes that
I usually lean on for this kind of question, and
like the Simon's Drunk episode and things like that, things
were my work was either unique or important to the episode.
The Holocaust episode is another one. But another like a
fun answer to this that I haven't used on the
pod really is probably the episode where Simon wins the
(48:11):
Viper and so like that that always stands out to me.
When I was a kid, I loved cars, but I
didn't I always loved American cars and so, uh you know,
I I kind of infamously was obsessed with the with
the Plymouth Prowler. I loved the Dodge Viper and I
but when we had uh so they incorporated that into
this episode. And but that day on set, it was
(48:33):
the first time I'd ever seen one, let alone, got
to sit in it and drive in one, and uh
and I remember they they had us Steven and I
like we hop into it, like over the doors instead
of opening the door to get in, and like and
then we speed off down the street together because we
only get to take like a little joy ride in it.
But but I remember feeling like a million bucks that
(48:56):
day because like one of my dream cars was sitting
on set and it was there for me. I just
take a ride. So it was one of those moments
where I felt really cool. Uh you know, I remember
it fondly.
Speaker 6 (49:10):
I remember that episode that was awesome.
Speaker 3 (49:14):
Mac.
Speaker 7 (49:14):
I have to my friend told me I couldn't tell
you this. Of course, now I'm going to tell you this.
She the episode where you stick a tiktac up your nose. Yeah,
she was inspired by that and stuck a battery up
her nose.
Speaker 3 (49:36):
It was a triple A.
Speaker 6 (49:37):
Yeah, yeah, the same thing.
Speaker 3 (49:42):
Yeah, and she had to get it. She had to
go to the.
Speaker 2 (49:46):
Oh my god, all your fault.
Speaker 1 (49:48):
Apparently we weren't always the best influence.
Speaker 7 (49:50):
No listen, lessons were learned across the vast spectrum.
Speaker 1 (49:56):
Sticks or batteries.
Speaker 7 (49:58):
Up your I think she's I I always wondered. I
was like, but but I was like, you know, she's
took a tic tac. That's different. I didn't have a
tic tac. I had a battery.
Speaker 1 (50:08):
Resourceful.
Speaker 6 (50:13):
You know what I used to do.
Speaker 5 (50:16):
I used to stick things up my nose to make
myself sneeze because I realized that at the height of
a sneeze, it feels really good, like there's a euphoria
that you get, and so I would like stick you
know the little like plastic things that clothing tags are
attached to, that little plastic you know thing, right, Yeah,
(50:37):
that's perfect for sticking up your nose around It's not.
Speaker 2 (50:42):
It's not everybody.
Speaker 4 (50:44):
Don't the children, anybody who's listening to a pod, please
do not stick anything up your nose.
Speaker 6 (50:49):
You can also use your hair.
Speaker 3 (50:53):
On that note.
Speaker 1 (50:54):
This has been a glorious.
Speaker 4 (50:56):
Episode of Catching up with the can in Carolina thing.
Speaker 1 (51:00):
Thanks so much for joining us.
Speaker 3 (51:02):
Thank you for having me. This was amazing.
Speaker 4 (51:04):
We appreciate you joining our circus and thank you for
listening to our show. Please make sure you like subscribe,
do all the things and for exclusive content.
Speaker 1 (51:18):
Also check us out on Patreon.
Speaker 6 (51:20):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (51:21):
This was it was really thanks for joining us.
Speaker 3 (51:23):
Oh my gosh, this was the best, BEV. Thank you
for asking me.
Speaker 2 (51:27):
A guided tour, Caroline.
Speaker 1 (51:29):
We love you and we appreciate you so much.
Speaker 7 (51:32):
Thank you so much, and I can't wait to hear
it when it comes out, So you just send me
a link when.
Speaker 3 (51:37):
It does, so forth.
Speaker 9 (51:41):
Hey, guys, check us out on Patreon for early access
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