October 20, 2025 • 43 mins
After all this time, after all of Bev's dread, the day is finally here! George Stults joins Mack, David and a much more relaxed Beverly to talk about his days as a 'green' actor, how he learned NOT to kiss his on-screen love interest and so much more 7th Heaven hijinks we had to give it to you in TWO servings! Enjoy!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It kills me to go on and their.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Don't do that.
Speaker 3 (00:05):
It's a bit of the good guys.
Speaker 4 (00:12):
Man.
Speaker 5 (00:12):
I got to Uh, we're gonna have to link up now.
I'm I've just gotten on, Like what do you mean?
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Like just really instam for him.
Speaker 4 (00:25):
Started one for me for the podcast, and so that was.
Speaker 5 (00:28):
Now I have one, and I still don't know really
how it all works, but I'm learning.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
I'm impressed that you haven't had one. I have not
had one, man, Well, you need to have at least too.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
I think I I think we.
Speaker 6 (00:48):
Why you can vouch for the other one, you know.
Speaker 5 (00:54):
Instagram, it's like, maybe find out what the hell you
guys are talking about?
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Into it?
Speaker 5 (01:00):
Sure, Hey, what's up everybody? Welcome to catching up with
the Camden's.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
I'm David Gallagher, I'm really Mitchell and I'm lost.
Speaker 5 (01:10):
And today, finally, finally, after all this time, we have
a very special guest with us, George Stultz.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
What what's up? Man?
Speaker 7 (01:21):
Very good to see you guys, to see your Yeah,
it's been too long, been forty five years.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Not sad.
Speaker 6 (01:28):
It's amazing that we all don't look at day over twenty.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
And I love that you're wearing a seventh Heaven.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
That's right six, Season.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Six, Season six, two thousand and one, two.
Speaker 8 (01:40):
Thousand, which according to IMDb, that's when you came on.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
See.
Speaker 7 (01:43):
I was going to ask you guys, if you knew
that for.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
These little time capsules, we wouldn't have an idea.
Speaker 7 (01:50):
Yeah, my boss's business partner, they have their own production company.
He was friends with our casting director and he's somehow
got this from him and gave it to me like
a year or two ago. Yeah, yeah, I just, oh God,
get the smallest one.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
So I broke it out for this special occasion.
Speaker 8 (02:16):
Well, we appreciated, and also I think, how does it
feel being back in this house because you've been here
before for training spaces when you did you're decorating expertise
on my garage.
Speaker 7 (02:33):
I mean we were professionals. Come on, and there was
a reason you wouldn't let us do it in here.
It was only out.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
On the garage.
Speaker 8 (02:44):
I definitely gave you the garage, and I think I
was like, they have to be confined to the garage.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
We're not going inside the house.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
That was all the doors were locked.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
And so what were your rules about Beverly at your place?
Speaker 1 (02:56):
We had none? It was like whatever was mean.
Speaker 8 (03:01):
Yes, I felt like I was like a glorified like
house cleaner because there was a lot of cleaning we did.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Yes.
Speaker 7 (03:09):
Do you remember the milk crates I brought from Colorado
where I was in college.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
You brought them?
Speaker 1 (03:14):
I brought them from.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
They You actually.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
The back of my truck drove from Colorado to Hollywood.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Am.
Speaker 8 (03:23):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
I didn't.
Speaker 8 (03:24):
I didn't know the history of them, but I do
remember that the place was very beautiful. That was.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
That wasn't exactly what I was going for.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
I was home.
Speaker 8 (03:42):
Say, it definitely reminded me of like a college frat boy.
Speaker 7 (03:48):
It wasn't even a frat, but I was on a
wrestling team and they were probably worse than a front.
Speaker 8 (03:53):
Okay, yeah, I definitely had that vibey. Yeah, lots of
dust bunnies. I don't even think you guys had carpet
or rugs.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
No, we didn't. I think we had ripped it all along.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
It was concrete.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
You're right, yeah, concrete.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
Yeah, I think we ahead of your time. Ahead of
your time is very modern. Yeah, well done.
Speaker 8 (04:13):
Yeah Yeah, Yeah, that was fun trading spaces.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
That was a blast. Yeah, we had a lot of fun.
Speaker 8 (04:21):
Yeah, what was it like for you when you joined
the cast?
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Do you remember?
Speaker 4 (04:26):
Do you have a tell us?
Speaker 5 (04:28):
We do this with our cast cast members, Yeah, tell
us tell us your version of like how you joined us,
Like what was the story that got you on the
set with us.
Speaker 7 (04:39):
I'm glad you asked, because I need you to help
my old man memory with this. But if I remember correctly,
my brother, who looks older and behaves older, audition way
before I did.
Speaker 5 (04:54):
Oh yeah, yeah, and Brenda was on the show already.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Yeah, yeah, okay, so he was already on the show.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
Jeff was first.
Speaker 7 (05:03):
Yeah I remember, because just Ben Ben the fireman. Yeah,
so Jeff was already on the show. And we had
the same uh, theatrical agent.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
And I remember.
Speaker 7 (05:17):
Our theatrical agent saying, hey, George, you have an audition
for the show Seventh Heaven that your brother just got
on him.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Like what?
Speaker 7 (05:23):
But it was to play somebody you were in high
school with who peer pressured you to drink beer. If
I remember correctly, you.
Speaker 5 (05:31):
Auditioned to be opposite me, Yes, one of your friends
in school, to be only in my class.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
And I'm like ten years older than you, yeah, at
least because I'm almost fifty how old are you?
Speaker 4 (05:42):
I'm forty, yes, some ten years older you.
Speaker 7 (05:44):
I was like, there's no way, I mean, the peer
pressuring people to drink beer, I could do, no problem.
Speaker 5 (05:49):
Yeah, content fine, it was just so.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Then.
Speaker 7 (05:54):
I think there was another audition shortly after, but I
think Brendan had already found out that Jeff and I
were real like brothers. I think the only reason I
even got a shot is because of that, and she
probably already.
Speaker 8 (06:06):
Like, did you have a full audition or because for
some reason I thought you just got the job right away?
Speaker 1 (06:12):
No? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 7 (06:15):
I remember being horrified because I was a timid, little,
shy whoosy boy.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Are you not?
Speaker 3 (06:24):
I swear a big strong man.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
That Mac.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
You were the shy, timid, whoosy boy on the wrestling team.
Speaker 7 (06:35):
I know any of those guys, and they'll tell you
they made fun of me all the time.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
I got my booty wopped beat down.
Speaker 7 (06:43):
He was the baby, That's correct.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
They just beat me up.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
Man.
Speaker 5 (06:52):
So you you joined us in one thereabouts yeah, and
then and and they and they put you in in
in Bev's camp, not in my camp, so then, which
I think makes more sense.
Speaker 7 (07:05):
Yeah, yeah, but Beverly, you were getting like boyfriend after
boyfriend right on the show. I think I was supposed
to be just like a one off boyfriend. I think
I don't remember.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
I mean, we'd have to ask Brenda, but.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Specifically we said I want to keep this one.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
She's like, yeah, I want to keep him. So uh
my soon to be husband in a few years, those
two can get in trouble together and I can murder.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Them both, those Colorado boys.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Michael, we know you're here.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
I just heard the giggle which story about.
Speaker 7 (07:52):
Remember we went to some event in Hollywood, Oh god,
which one? And you two were staying at the hotel
that was like pretty much new was it Low's I
can't remember what like on Hollywood. Yeah, and so we
have some after party, a great time. But then we
ended back at your place at the hotel.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
That was the that was like a raw party.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
I can't remember. I just know we were having a.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Rap party like the.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Michael, yeah, we probably want you wanted to and I
didn't want to, right. But then we all met back
in your hotel room and Michael here pressured me to
have a dip of chewing tobacco.
Speaker 7 (08:36):
It might have been the other way around, and in
case you know what that is, but it's tobacco and
it's nasty, and you put on your lip and done that.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
She has there.
Speaker 8 (09:05):
I do remember oftentimes where you might have been uh,
not a bad influence.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
But like where we would get where we get in
trouble actually.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Never happened.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Yeah, but I definitely.
Speaker 8 (09:22):
Remember there was a few very fun evenings where we
all went out and let loose.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
I guess absolutely.
Speaker 8 (09:35):
That was Those were the moments when I could be fun,
which was not very often because most of the time
I was so wound up, so damn tight, very focused
on being like straight and narrow and like.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
You're going to give yourself a little permission.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Ok.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
I'm still working on let it go. I'm still going
to be great, great.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
To like let go first, working on it as we
can tell.
Speaker 8 (10:03):
So, what was it like kind of coming onto the show,
because we've we've had a lot of fun speaking to
our guests about.
Speaker 5 (10:09):
Like and coming onto the show, like in a way
kind of shadowed by your brother that it beat you there, yeah, right,
but then staying over time, yes, overcoming with the saying power, like,
how how was that journey?
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Well?
Speaker 7 (10:25):
I give Beverly credit for that my choice. I was
just trying to do whatever I could be able to.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Time.
Speaker 7 (10:41):
Baby yeah, man, Yeah, but I was you guys, you
have to remember this.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
I have no right being working actors.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
I do my brother what I remember, just like you
were green?
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Yes, does everyone know what green means?
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (11:03):
Green means basically just new, And so you were still
like learning the rope.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
You had done a lot of modeling, but you hadn't
done a lot of Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
I hadn't done any acting that I remember.
Speaker 7 (11:16):
But so my brother always wanted to do that growing up,
and it was the last thing I ever wanted to do.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
But I'm a year older.
Speaker 7 (11:23):
So he had already done like two years of being
the lead in the high school musicals. And it was
my junior year and he came up and he's like,
you got to try out this time. I'm like, are
you out of your mind? I can't get up in
front of people. I can't even talk with two people
near me because I was just that way. And so
he of course talked me into it and I auditioned
(11:44):
for it. But we were a tiny school in man
Sue Springs, Colorado, so they needed anybody. Of course, they're
gonna hire me even if I can't even talk. So anyway,
I did two years of that and it was horrifying.
I hated my brother for it. I never thought I
was going to become an actor ever. Never wanted to ever.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
I wanted to go and woke up in Hollywood.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Seventh han't been tortured by you guys. Remember I was in.
Speaker 7 (12:10):
I would go to the trailer with you and the kids,
But I was one who was using.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
The uh the kids uh acting coaches. Sorry done, yes,
thank you. That's true.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
I remember done helping you.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
To all the time.
Speaker 5 (12:26):
But there's no shame in it. Helped everybody. She was
there as as the child wrangler, you know, kind of
as her main title, but really Don was like there
for the entire cast, and she is.
Speaker 8 (12:42):
An acting coach, so I'd like to get like that
kind of feedback. And I mean, she was wonderful for
all of us. But I did not know that you
were you would work with Don.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Every single day. I didn't know. It wasn't no way
I would have been long time. That's amazing.
Speaker 5 (12:58):
And again under scores what we said and we talked
to Don that like that. She was really this kind
of unique presence on our set. That made everything, you know,
kind of greased the wheels for the cast, you know,
like kept us like moving as fast as we did.
Speaker 6 (13:14):
You kept acting a little bit like did you not
do some Hallmark Christmas stuff for lifetime?
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Oh? Yeah, a woman in the other room who's laughing right.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Now, You're in a couple of Christmas classics, Like.
Speaker 7 (13:28):
I ever watched the Hallmark Christmas movie before. The last
thing I thought I'd be doing after seventh Heaven is that?
And then the first one I did was with an
actress named Alicia Witt, and I was naive as always.
I was like, oh, Alicia, is this your first Christmas
movie too? She goes, George, You're an idiot. I've done
like ten. I'm like, okay, sorry, Yeah. So then I
ended up doing like six Thanks to you over there.
(13:51):
I always had a blast a lot of I always
wanted to do what Yeah, I told a couple of
people that I'll come out of tournament from Christmas movies
only if you and Iron.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Well, that would be a fascinating story.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
What would everybody?
Speaker 5 (14:08):
I'll have fun, That's what everybody requests, that very Christmas event.
Speaker 8 (14:15):
Because our relationship has always been one of like you
looked at you were like my brother.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
You used to drive me just nuts.
Speaker 6 (14:23):
Like you your fan George gets stabbed in the eye.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
Back told me to harass as much as possible.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Of course, Well, I mean you learned from the best.
Speaker 8 (14:37):
But no, I mean I think that was always our
relationship was so it was always so funny when we're
supposed to be like husband and wife, and I just remember.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
You used to just like you.
Speaker 8 (14:47):
You knew when I was wound too tight, when to
just be like.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Like you were like that little kid.
Speaker 8 (14:55):
That's just like like George.
Speaker 5 (15:00):
On a normal set, if one of the leads is
wound up tight, that the set will become a little
like walking on eggshells. Everything will quiet down, people will
avoid the conflict. But on our set, we were a
big family, so if Bev was wound up that day,
we would all just kind of like instigate, we would
lean in.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
So, yeah, you know, you guys got away with it.
If I didn't, I was.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
Not true at all.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
We were fine, but.
Speaker 5 (15:31):
You definitely how was your day on set in trouble
with the way that.
Speaker 8 (15:38):
George would call Michael being like sorry, sorry, Michael, are
we going out next weekend?
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Just don't tell Beb.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
Don't tell Ben, because you still have the wedding picture though.
Speaker 7 (15:55):
I have it somewhere. I just because when my brother
moved to Hermosa Beach for a while and I got
in there by myself one time and hung it up
without him knowing.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
So when he came home the next day he was
out of town. When he came home, that was the
first thing you saw was a frank and it was
up there for years.
Speaker 8 (16:16):
Yeah, that's amazing, my goodness.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Yeah, because that was the one hundred and fifty of us.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
She has the same photo. Yeah, you can talk about that, though.
Speaker 8 (16:24):
One hundred and fifty was I was the wedding episode.
Speaker 5 (16:28):
Yeah, was good about hitting milestones with things like that.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
You know.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
So how many episodes were you on for then?
Speaker 2 (16:35):
According to sixties No, according to our cheat sheet, it
was over one hundred.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Wow. And how many was the total?
Speaker 4 (16:45):
How many were you in?
Speaker 3 (16:46):
BEV?
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Forty two, dred and forty seven?
Speaker 4 (16:51):
None of us were at all of them except for Bed.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (16:54):
I think I'm pretty sure BEV was the only one
who made made it all.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
I did read that, Yeah, yeah, make can you believe that? Yes, yeah,
you believe that?
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Yeah, wait, was Catherine not and everyone?
Speaker 2 (17:06):
No, I don't think so she was just what were
I think.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
Details?
Speaker 1 (17:12):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
I believe.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
I just know that if I had to put money
on it, we'll have to fact check.
Speaker 8 (17:18):
Two forty three and was what the only cast members
who were in every episode were I believe Stephen and myself.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
And yeah, I believe it.
Speaker 8 (17:28):
I think that's yeah, maybe happy Happy Happy. Does anything
stand out from your time with us on seven seven?
Speaker 7 (17:46):
I mean, I, like I said, I had no right.
I was so fortunate be part of the show. I
loved it so much. You just brought up Catherine, and
she is a very lovely human being. I remember her
coming up to me one day ago. Because you guys
had been on it for seven seasons before I got it.
I was forty five going to the kids acting coach
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down every day. But I loved it, and I just
loved every part of it and learning and you guys,
whether you know it or not, you all helped me
get over my fear of doing that stuff and teaching
me tricks and whatever. But I was still horrified for
the most part until probably the last episode.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
I was.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
All of a sudden, this is good yeah, I can
do this.
Speaker 7 (18:34):
Yeah, but I had a last every episode, and I remember,
I don't know I whenever Brenda made me a serious regular.
I remember one day Katherine coming up to me and
she's like, George, aren't you bored of this? You ever
gonna you think you want to do something else? And
I was like, why what are you talking about? This
is great, food's amazing. You guys are all cool. I'm
(18:55):
not going anywhere.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Kick me off.
Speaker 8 (18:59):
I do remember, I do remember like you loved like
being there. You loved like the crew and the food.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Definitely.
Speaker 8 (19:08):
I think there was definitely some to go boxes that
went on with you on every occasion.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Nothing else.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
One where. The were the best. They are arcaters. They
were m vps all the time.
Speaker 8 (19:23):
Man.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
They took such great care of us.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
We were spoiled for their cooking.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
I'd be like four five four five.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
They gave you an extra couple of years.
Speaker 5 (19:38):
I mean, George, my memories of you on the set
are just like you. You came into set and and
you were green, but you were always you were always
so like, so positive, so happy, go lucky. We It's
it's in the same way that I think back about
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working with Barry. Like when I I remember working with Barry,
we were always laughing, was teasing each other. We always
had some joke going on on the side between takes,
and and your energy on set was like that with
with everybody. And you very quickly kind of just assimilated
right into our family and became, you know, one of us.
And and like I always remember, you know, the good
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vibes that we always.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
Had taking yourself too serious satis.
Speaker 5 (20:26):
Of course, we were always laughing, we were always having fun.
You know, it's and it goes to it says a
lot about the kind of set that we had in general.
But but you know, there were certain key players on
set that that really brought that kind of positive vibe.
And you were you were one of a man for sure, the.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
Ray of sunshine, golden hair.
Speaker 8 (20:54):
Except when we were trying to be serious. And then
there's sometimes where.
Speaker 7 (20:58):
You were about to murder me me too.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
All the time.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
Sometimes I wanted to each each car I ever wanted
to know.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
I don't think first of all, now I'm sounding even worse,
you know, not you were worse about it was.
Speaker 8 (21:19):
I definitely was like strict in the sense of like
always like professional. So I always wanted everything to like,
I didn't want to waste anyone's time, So I sometimes
I do admit that I would forget to also have fun.
I think that's what it was is I was so
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focused on the end product that I missed the moment
of like actually sometimes enjoying it and sometimes.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Took that away from other people. I'm really sorry.
Speaker 5 (21:48):
It's like because.
Speaker 6 (21:53):
But it's like a car can take you from point
A to point B, right, Like the reason people like
fun cars is because they want to enjoy the journey
point A to point B. It's not being at dinner,
it's to dinner.
Speaker 5 (22:06):
I think I I avoided it with you, certainly because
I was always that like I was the drama kid too.
So like when I worked with you, I would lock
in with you. You know, when I was working with George,
we'd mess around, and you know, I was always kind
of able to like blend in with you know, the
different people that I was working with, which is great.
(22:29):
It's yeah, sure, it's but like you know, I feel
like maybe that's why you go, no, we didn't ever
fight it or like, no, that's because I knew that
when I was working with you, we would lock in
and we would, you know, focus on the work, and
that's how we enjoyed our time to.
Speaker 8 (22:43):
Get But I do have to say we still had
fun even though whether you liked it, but I also
our relationship always was like you used to drive me nets,
but I also like loved that about.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
You because that's just that was us.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Like absolutely, I agree.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
It's familiar.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
You're like, I'm not going to I'm disagreed here. Definitely, Yes,
more fortunate we did have.
Speaker 6 (23:10):
A lot of you know, after a certain amount of time,
you can become, you know, used to a poison.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
You can just.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
We can't function without it.
Speaker 7 (23:18):
You two were always beyond prepared and professional. But I
don't remember him being able to go back and forth
like I could not do that like.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
You did, and I was always impressed. It's like, I
don't think I'm ever going to be able to be
that professional and be able to joke around it is
it really is. Thank you.
Speaker 7 (23:39):
By the way, quick question, do you remember somebody calling
accidentally calling you Gary Gallagher because then my brother and I.
Speaker 5 (23:46):
Gary so so Gary Okay, Yes, I remember you because.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
We were there. I remember they were like, okay, from
now we call him Gary.
Speaker 4 (23:54):
Is that where it started.
Speaker 5 (23:55):
Yes, what I do remember, and I don't remember for
the life of me why, but I remember you guys
had like the alternate like personality for me that was
Gary and I don't know where it started, but I
remember just leaning into guy made a mistake.
Speaker 7 (24:12):
But I don't think we called them out when they
did it, but then afterwards we just kept.
Speaker 4 (24:17):
Like, well, this is now, let's see.
Speaker 8 (24:22):
And how was it Gary working when having your brother
on the show too?
Speaker 2 (24:26):
What was that like?
Speaker 1 (24:28):
Oh God, can I tell that story?
Speaker 4 (24:30):
Yes, yeah, I do it.
Speaker 7 (24:31):
So remember I am as green as you can possibly get.
And I can't remember my real age at the time,
but I was ten years older than you and whatever.
But so Jeff and Jessica, I remember my first day
on I think it was my first day on set,
and I'm nervous as all heck, and I think you
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and I have our first kissing scene and I'm wait.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
The is a kissing scene.
Speaker 4 (25:03):
That tracks He came in and.
Speaker 7 (25:10):
Within the first couple of days and I was just
so nervous, and those two pricks, Jeff and Jessica came
up to me and they're like, okay, George, Uh, we
just talked to Beverly and she wants this to look good,
and so you have to use tongue.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
And I'm like already sweating bullets because I ain't even.
Speaker 5 (25:33):
Talk so hard and remember.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
And going in for the kiss and Beverly pushing me away,
going what are you doing?
Speaker 7 (25:50):
And I'm horrified in front of however many people were there.
I'm never going to recover from this, the bolts of
the stay for that one.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Do you remember I kind of blocked? I think you
probably didn't. My god, that that's pretty bad.
Speaker 5 (26:12):
That tracks definitely. I mean, yeah, it makes perfect sense.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Oh my god.
Speaker 6 (26:17):
I hadn't lean away from the mic for a second
parts of that story before, but I didn't realize that
my brother and yeah.
Speaker 5 (26:24):
I actually thought it was like Jeff and Jess were
like you were, Oh.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
It was horrified and when and I was like, well,
I'm for sure fired.
Speaker 4 (26:38):
It's your brother.
Speaker 7 (26:39):
Your brother was like, oh, I'm gonna really screw over
my brother camera just laughing there.
Speaker 8 (26:45):
I'm like, it makes sense.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Also, Jesse would love to mess with me.
Speaker 4 (26:50):
Oh yeah, totally. I believe this one's going to be
friend here.
Speaker 8 (26:55):
I was always I know, both of them, what we're
gonna I'm gonna call her up to be like, hey,
you got.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
I sure, just remembers. There's a lot of things that
she likes to.
Speaker 8 (27:08):
Block out, like when she left me on the top
of the mountain in Colorado and it was a black
diamond and I couldn't get down. How did you I
haven't forgiven her for that yet, How did you really?
Speaker 3 (27:18):
Did you just take your skis off and walk down?
Speaker 2 (27:20):
No, I know.
Speaker 8 (27:26):
I wasn't hard enough to do that, and I faced planted.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
And almost like broke my anyway, It's that's a whole
different time.
Speaker 8 (27:34):
Know, I bitched and the whole way down the mountain
try and cassing them out, and then I broke my
goggles and it just was anyway. So but I have
now another reason to call down, Like jes First of all,
I'm sorry, that's that's rough entry.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
It's a really rough entry.
Speaker 4 (27:59):
And then it thinks.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
George into the trailers, start working on your lines, and
I was just shaking horrified.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Oh my god.
Speaker 8 (28:08):
I just I do remember Brenda being so excited, like
I have this great guy for your boyfriend on the show,
and he's got a brother, his brother's on their show,
and I was like Jeff's brother and please and then
here look at you out last him and have a
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hundred episodes.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
Oh man, and.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Rode out the whole way.
Speaker 8 (28:42):
Do you know that we actually had the Yadrik twins
on the other day. They just turned twenty one, So
our little Savannah can.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Now go to bars insane scary, isn't that frightening?
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Yeah? And I used to hang out with their parents
at real bars in need some Beach while they were
on the show. Anyway, I want to edit that one out.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
So what has it been like, you know, after seventh seven?
Speaker 4 (29:19):
Yeah, the post journey.
Speaker 7 (29:23):
Even though I like to pretend I'm a tough guy,
it was well, remember the show ended and then got
brought back the other season.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
So that was weird. Yeah, it was so weird.
Speaker 7 (29:35):
But yeah, when it was officially over with, I can't
remember where. I was out of town somewhere and knew
that there was no chance because I was like, ah,
maybe they're playing around, they'll be in twelfth season or whatever.
But then I found out it was never going to
come back, and it sunk in and I was really sad.
I was sad the first time, but then this time
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it was really sad. Because I, like I said, I
know that my opinion, we were all fortunate to be
part of it because it was a special show. But
for me, I know it was I was fortunate and
it was special.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
So I definitely was a little emotional for a while,
and then I.
Speaker 7 (30:14):
Honestly didn't think that I'd ever do any other acting
again because I never had a passion for it like
my brother did or I don't know if you guys did.
You started so young that I don't know if you
can say you had a passion for it, or maybe
you just eventually got a passion for it or what.
I don't know, but I never had that, so I
knew I was going to be fine either way. But
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anytime I've worked since then, I've had fun and enjoy
the people I was working with. And it's not like
I don't you know, I never thought of myself as
playing another character. I've always just tried to be myself
as much as possible because I'm just not good enough
to be a character.
Speaker 5 (30:56):
That's okay, y, Obviously there were there were rules for
you to pick up like that.
Speaker 4 (31:01):
I mean that that worked, you know that worked for you?
Speaker 5 (31:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (31:05):
Okay, Funny people play themselves in everything they do.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
Oh yeah, and have great success doing it.
Speaker 4 (31:11):
Exactly, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 7 (31:12):
But again, I never had as much fun working as
we did on Seventh Heaven, but I've always enjoyed myself.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
Well because it was it was.
Speaker 8 (31:22):
It's very clear that it was a very special set
and we had.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
One. We had a pretty easy schedule too, which Yeah.
Speaker 7 (31:33):
By the time I got on it, I didn't understand
that you guys had it down so well that it
only took how many days to shoot an episode by
the six or seventh seas.
Speaker 5 (31:43):
By the sixth season, we were probably down to seven days,
six and a half or six and a half seven.
I think it got down to six I think was
the fastest we ever got. But I wasn't there for
the last season with you guys, so I don't know
if you guys tightened it up even more.
Speaker 8 (31:56):
Oh, we did, because we were barely making We were
barely you can get to like one shot after lunch.
Speaker 6 (32:02):
That's right, financially efficient as well, and that probably helped.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
They were just trying to get there.
Speaker 6 (32:10):
We could have gotten down to four days. There may
have been a season twelve hot I.
Speaker 8 (32:14):
Mean, yeah, possibly, right, I mean we just talked to
Haley the other day and we were reminded that also
we went to New York at one point.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
I had to go to New York.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
That's right. What season was that?
Speaker 2 (32:28):
Season ten? And oh no, I think it was season
eleven and I get to fly with Brenda on the
private jet.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
No, look at you. I didn't know that. Just now, Brenda,
you're dead to me.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
You weren't in the season.
Speaker 8 (32:49):
But I also think what was cool too, is like
I think there was a lot of long term friendships
that came, you know, from from.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
The show too.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (33:00):
When you're on a show that long, especially you guys, uh,
you just had something special and those of us that.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
Were lucky to be on it for you know, a
long period of time you got to see that for sure. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
So do you have any favorite episodes? Do you remember
any episodes?
Speaker 1 (33:22):
I remember you and I and Malibu in a convertible?
Why wait, wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait.
Let me get to this the musical episode. Let's come clean, Beverly.
How did I end up having to sing and dance?
Cannot call what I did singing and dancing? Do you remember? Why?
Speaker 2 (33:42):
I don't remember because.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
You didn't want to do it, so Brenda basically strong
army and said, George, you're doing this or I'm gon
whoop your little booty. And I'm like, Brenda, you don't understand.
I can't sing, I can't dance. I can barely do
what you're having me do every day on the show.
That's the most horrifying thing I've ever gone.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
Wait a second, I wouldn't sing and dance. Really, yeah,
because I tried to have a country what.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
I'm talking about. I think you said.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
I'm a respected country artist.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
George, George anything.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
I probably did say that, though.
Speaker 7 (34:25):
When they came up to me, I was like, they
gotta be joking. They're just pulling a prank.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
On me right now.
Speaker 5 (34:30):
I also backed out of doing the song and dance episode.
They like having a scene and then and then I
just get up and walk away, and then this whole
dance number comes out of nowhere and starts, and then
when the dance number ends and all the dancers go away,
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I just like, come back and then can this scene?
Speaker 1 (34:57):
And I was just like.
Speaker 5 (34:59):
I I was also like, I'm not, this is not
what I'm doing here. I don't this is not you know,
We're not a musical show, but not a single dancer
like this. I don't understand why.
Speaker 6 (35:13):
I don't remember it was it was allin that.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
Was it?
Speaker 3 (35:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (35:22):
Oh a, I think I just I just saw that
script because I I scanned season seven.
Speaker 6 (35:29):
Through eleven because we had the guy on there who
was like one of the foremost like modern like Gershwin
expert music men.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
Was who was he?
Speaker 4 (35:41):
I don't know she because at that point she was old.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
Enough to.
Speaker 6 (35:45):
Shadow as one of our guest stars for that episode,
and he was sort of the driving force behind that.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Yeah, yeah, I remember.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
Also, the kid who played my boyfriend at the time
was very musical. And you know which boyfriend, Thom It
was Thomas Ducker. It was okay, Vincent.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
Vincent good memory?
Speaker 3 (36:09):
First kiss on TV?
Speaker 1 (36:10):
Oh on TV? Yeah? Okay? And soft.
Speaker 8 (36:27):
So are there any other episodes that stand down aside
from the one that you have given that gave you nightmares?
Speaker 1 (36:37):
Why were we in Malibu? Again? Well, you were singing
in Malibu? Were you doing something?
Speaker 8 (36:42):
I think that was there was when we were supposed
to go to cross I think that was were a
potential spin off. Remember where we went to cross Roads
and we were looking at a potential place for us
to move, I believe. And uh, there was like a
ministry that was also in a bar, and I believe,
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wasn't it at the remember that bar into Peanga Canyon.
It's like a biker.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Bar, the old place Salon we shot there.
Speaker 6 (37:17):
I don't remember that burnt down, lots of things.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
Malbourn Is that what it's called? No, we were cross
there on the beach side.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
It's like the old places in the far.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
No.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
No, no, it's literally called the old.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
Place between the one on one in the right.
Speaker 8 (37:39):
Oh it's on a canyon, yes, yeah, But that was
like towards the end. I think they were prepping for
it to potentially go off to be a spin off
which spun itself right into the ground and went nowhere,
what do.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
You guys have a favorite? I mean, you guys were
in so yeah, there's.
Speaker 5 (38:03):
But you so you were there during the sea stage
era as well, right, so, like because because our sea
stage was your guys's place, I remember correctly, right, remember
when we had the extra stage that they had stage
over it in Culver City and it was like a
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nice change of pace for us.
Speaker 4 (38:25):
All of a sudden it changed the drive in a
little bit.
Speaker 5 (38:29):
But then I just remember every time I went over
to Sea Stage, it was either your Guys's place or.
Speaker 4 (38:36):
The attic set.
Speaker 5 (38:37):
There was a couple of sets that were over there
at some point, and I remember that was every time
I was on Sea Stage, I was with you.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
Dang, I totally forgot about that.
Speaker 4 (38:48):
Yeah, we had that.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
It smelled like.
Speaker 4 (38:52):
Sea Stage was weird, little stinky.
Speaker 3 (38:57):
Awful, very remember those.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
Yeah, I didn't love c Stage as much as I
loved Home.
Speaker 4 (39:05):
No, I don't think any of us did.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
Yeah, it was, Yeah, I definitely do, even though it
was closer.
Speaker 7 (39:12):
But why did Seventh Heaven have their own stages in
that area?
Speaker 5 (39:17):
Spelling that it was spelling spelling owned the the building
that we were in, Like he, I think we was
all under That was what spelling the property, And that's
why our production and studio was all kind of contained
and on its own.
Speaker 4 (39:34):
It was spelled the.
Speaker 8 (39:35):
Suff Is that why they were No, Buffy wasn't with
us though they were down the street.
Speaker 3 (39:41):
But was that also that was that wasn't spells spelling.
Speaker 4 (39:44):
Yeah, he wasn't spelling no w B.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (39:47):
Yeah, But I think the model for that for having
your own spot was from us?
Speaker 4 (39:54):
Was it was like a spelling thing.
Speaker 3 (39:57):
Interesting.
Speaker 5 (39:58):
I don't know, maybe I'm wrong about that, but that
was always That was always my impression of it was
that we were kind of in our own We had
our own little world because we were the spelling show.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (40:09):
I remember a lot of people always would mention how
lucky we were to have our own.
Speaker 5 (40:15):
Yeah, we didn't have to deal with in and out
of the studios, and yeah, going in and out of
burbank or you know, any of those areas that are
much harder to you know, much more congested.
Speaker 3 (40:25):
Walk to your car.
Speaker 8 (40:27):
And you had guest stars on other sets, So what
did how did those compare?
Speaker 2 (40:34):
You're like, do you like, do you need to look
at your IMDb to like remember what those?
Speaker 3 (40:39):
Would you like me to share your I.
Speaker 7 (40:42):
Remember doing when I was even greener, I did like
a co star on Friends and a co star on
Will and Grace. I had one word on Will and Grace.
I was Jack's closetive boyfriend. My dad walks in in
some bar, restaurant or whatever, and Jack and I are
holding holding each other, and I look up and see
my dad and my one word is dad? Question mark Dad.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
That's a good reason.
Speaker 3 (41:06):
How long did you.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
Care for that? Well, I didn't have Dawn, so it was.
Speaker 8 (41:15):
And then that's a sitcom, so that's even that's a
whole different experience, a whole different experience because you're.
Speaker 2 (41:21):
In front of a live audience.
Speaker 7 (41:22):
I got fired off Spin City.
Speaker 1 (41:26):
Ye why because because he got Yep, you.
Speaker 6 (41:31):
Tried it the second time City after no before.
Speaker 7 (41:37):
I'm pretty sure it was before because that was that
was in nineties. I was brought on to be heatherlock
Clear's boy toy for a scene. But then when I
got there in front of the live audience, it was
the body just shut.
Speaker 4 (41:51):
Down but couldn't wake up. The physique.
Speaker 1 (41:58):
Oh, it was horrifying. I was like, this woman's supposed
to do this.
Speaker 4 (42:07):
I should have been there. I would have had your.
Speaker 5 (42:11):
George get in there and get going.
Speaker 4 (42:15):
You this just confidence.
Speaker 1 (42:18):
I still got paid, which is very kind.
Speaker 3 (42:19):
Of Thanks for listening.
Speaker 9 (42:23):
We enjoyed George's company so much that it wouldn't fit
into one episode, so stay tuned for part two of
our conversation with the legendary Kevin kin Kirk. In the meantime,
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of Madness
Speaker 6 (43:00):
Different, different, different,
It kills me to go on and their.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Don't do that.
Speaker 3 (00:05):
It's a bit of the good guys.
Speaker 4 (00:12):
Man.
Speaker 5 (00:12):
I got to Uh, we're gonna have to link up now.
I'm I've just gotten on, Like what do you mean?
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Like just really instam for him.
Speaker 4 (00:25):
Started one for me for the podcast, and so that was.
Speaker 5 (00:28):
Now I have one, and I still don't know really
how it all works, but I'm learning.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
I'm impressed that you haven't had one. I have not
had one, man, Well, you need to have at least too.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
I think I I think we.
Speaker 6 (00:48):
Why you can vouch for the other one, you know.
Speaker 5 (00:54):
Instagram, it's like, maybe find out what the hell you
guys are talking about?
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Into it?
Speaker 5 (01:00):
Sure, Hey, what's up everybody? Welcome to catching up with
the Camden's.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
I'm David Gallagher, I'm really Mitchell and I'm lost.
Speaker 5 (01:10):
And today, finally, finally, after all this time, we have
a very special guest with us, George Stultz.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
What what's up? Man?
Speaker 7 (01:21):
Very good to see you guys, to see your Yeah,
it's been too long, been forty five years.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Not sad.
Speaker 6 (01:28):
It's amazing that we all don't look at day over twenty.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
And I love that you're wearing a seventh Heaven.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
That's right six, Season.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Six, Season six, two thousand and one, two.
Speaker 8 (01:40):
Thousand, which according to IMDb, that's when you came on.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
See.
Speaker 7 (01:43):
I was going to ask you guys, if you knew
that for.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
These little time capsules, we wouldn't have an idea.
Speaker 7 (01:50):
Yeah, my boss's business partner, they have their own production company.
He was friends with our casting director and he's somehow
got this from him and gave it to me like
a year or two ago. Yeah, yeah, I just, oh God,
get the smallest one.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
So I broke it out for this special occasion.
Speaker 8 (02:16):
Well, we appreciated, and also I think, how does it
feel being back in this house because you've been here
before for training spaces when you did you're decorating expertise
on my garage.
Speaker 7 (02:33):
I mean we were professionals. Come on, and there was
a reason you wouldn't let us do it in here.
It was only out.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
On the garage.
Speaker 8 (02:44):
I definitely gave you the garage, and I think I
was like, they have to be confined to the garage.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
We're not going inside the house.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
That was all the doors were locked.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
And so what were your rules about Beverly at your place?
Speaker 1 (02:56):
We had none? It was like whatever was mean.
Speaker 8 (03:01):
Yes, I felt like I was like a glorified like
house cleaner because there was a lot of cleaning we did.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Yes.
Speaker 7 (03:09):
Do you remember the milk crates I brought from Colorado
where I was in college.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
You brought them?
Speaker 1 (03:14):
I brought them from.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
They You actually.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
The back of my truck drove from Colorado to Hollywood.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Am.
Speaker 8 (03:23):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
I didn't.
Speaker 8 (03:24):
I didn't know the history of them, but I do
remember that the place was very beautiful. That was.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
That wasn't exactly what I was going for.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
I was home.
Speaker 8 (03:42):
Say, it definitely reminded me of like a college frat boy.
Speaker 7 (03:48):
It wasn't even a frat, but I was on a
wrestling team and they were probably worse than a front.
Speaker 8 (03:53):
Okay, yeah, I definitely had that vibey. Yeah, lots of
dust bunnies. I don't even think you guys had carpet
or rugs.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
No, we didn't. I think we had ripped it all along.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
It was concrete.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
You're right, yeah, concrete.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
Yeah, I think we ahead of your time. Ahead of
your time is very modern. Yeah, well done.
Speaker 8 (04:13):
Yeah Yeah, Yeah, that was fun trading spaces.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
That was a blast. Yeah, we had a lot of fun.
Speaker 8 (04:21):
Yeah, what was it like for you when you joined
the cast?
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Do you remember?
Speaker 4 (04:26):
Do you have a tell us?
Speaker 5 (04:28):
We do this with our cast cast members, Yeah, tell
us tell us your version of like how you joined us,
Like what was the story that got you on the
set with us.
Speaker 7 (04:39):
I'm glad you asked, because I need you to help
my old man memory with this. But if I remember correctly,
my brother, who looks older and behaves older, audition way
before I did.
Speaker 5 (04:54):
Oh yeah, yeah, and Brenda was on the show already.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Yeah, yeah, okay, so he was already on the show.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
Jeff was first.
Speaker 7 (05:03):
Yeah I remember, because just Ben Ben the fireman. Yeah,
so Jeff was already on the show. And we had
the same uh, theatrical agent.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
And I remember.
Speaker 7 (05:17):
Our theatrical agent saying, hey, George, you have an audition
for the show Seventh Heaven that your brother just got
on him.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Like what?
Speaker 7 (05:23):
But it was to play somebody you were in high
school with who peer pressured you to drink beer. If
I remember correctly, you.
Speaker 5 (05:31):
Auditioned to be opposite me, Yes, one of your friends
in school, to be only in my class.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
And I'm like ten years older than you, yeah, at
least because I'm almost fifty how old are you?
Speaker 4 (05:42):
I'm forty, yes, some ten years older you.
Speaker 7 (05:44):
I was like, there's no way, I mean, the peer
pressuring people to drink beer, I could do, no problem.
Speaker 5 (05:49):
Yeah, content fine, it was just so.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Then.
Speaker 7 (05:54):
I think there was another audition shortly after, but I
think Brendan had already found out that Jeff and I
were real like brothers. I think the only reason I
even got a shot is because of that, and she
probably already.
Speaker 8 (06:06):
Like, did you have a full audition or because for
some reason I thought you just got the job right away?
Speaker 1 (06:12):
No? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 7 (06:15):
I remember being horrified because I was a timid, little,
shy whoosy boy.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Are you not?
Speaker 3 (06:24):
I swear a big strong man.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
That Mac.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
You were the shy, timid, whoosy boy on the wrestling team.
Speaker 7 (06:35):
I know any of those guys, and they'll tell you
they made fun of me all the time.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
I got my booty wopped beat down.
Speaker 7 (06:43):
He was the baby, That's correct.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
They just beat me up.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
Man.
Speaker 5 (06:52):
So you you joined us in one thereabouts yeah, and
then and and they and they put you in in
in Bev's camp, not in my camp, so then, which
I think makes more sense.
Speaker 7 (07:05):
Yeah, yeah, but Beverly, you were getting like boyfriend after
boyfriend right on the show. I think I was supposed
to be just like a one off boyfriend. I think
I don't remember.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
I mean, we'd have to ask Brenda, but.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Specifically we said I want to keep this one.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
She's like, yeah, I want to keep him. So uh
my soon to be husband in a few years, those
two can get in trouble together and I can murder.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Them both, those Colorado boys.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Michael, we know you're here.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
I just heard the giggle which story about.
Speaker 7 (07:52):
Remember we went to some event in Hollywood, Oh god,
which one? And you two were staying at the hotel
that was like pretty much new was it Low's I
can't remember what like on Hollywood. Yeah, and so we
have some after party, a great time. But then we
ended back at your place at the hotel.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
That was the that was like a raw party.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
I can't remember. I just know we were having a.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Rap party like the.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Michael, yeah, we probably want you wanted to and I
didn't want to, right. But then we all met back
in your hotel room and Michael here pressured me to
have a dip of chewing tobacco.
Speaker 7 (08:36):
It might have been the other way around, and in
case you know what that is, but it's tobacco and
it's nasty, and you put on your lip and done that.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
She has there.
Speaker 8 (09:05):
I do remember oftentimes where you might have been uh,
not a bad influence.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
But like where we would get where we get in
trouble actually.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Never happened.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Yeah, but I definitely.
Speaker 8 (09:22):
Remember there was a few very fun evenings where we
all went out and let loose.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
I guess absolutely.
Speaker 8 (09:35):
That was Those were the moments when I could be fun,
which was not very often because most of the time
I was so wound up, so damn tight, very focused
on being like straight and narrow and like.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
You're going to give yourself a little permission.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Ok.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
I'm still working on let it go. I'm still going
to be great, great.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
To like let go first, working on it as we
can tell.
Speaker 8 (10:03):
So, what was it like kind of coming onto the show,
because we've we've had a lot of fun speaking to
our guests about.
Speaker 5 (10:09):
Like and coming onto the show, like in a way
kind of shadowed by your brother that it beat you there, yeah, right,
but then staying over time, yes, overcoming with the saying power, like,
how how was that journey?
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Well?
Speaker 7 (10:25):
I give Beverly credit for that my choice. I was
just trying to do whatever I could be able to.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Time.
Speaker 7 (10:41):
Baby yeah, man, Yeah, but I was you guys, you
have to remember this.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
I have no right being working actors.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
I do my brother what I remember, just like you
were green?
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Yes, does everyone know what green means?
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (11:03):
Green means basically just new, And so you were still
like learning the rope.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
You had done a lot of modeling, but you hadn't
done a lot of Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
I hadn't done any acting that I remember.
Speaker 7 (11:16):
But so my brother always wanted to do that growing up,
and it was the last thing I ever wanted to do.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
But I'm a year older.
Speaker 7 (11:23):
So he had already done like two years of being
the lead in the high school musicals. And it was
my junior year and he came up and he's like,
you got to try out this time. I'm like, are
you out of your mind? I can't get up in
front of people. I can't even talk with two people
near me because I was just that way. And so
he of course talked me into it and I auditioned
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for it. But we were a tiny school in man
Sue Springs, Colorado, so they needed anybody. Of course, they're
gonna hire me even if I can't even talk. So anyway,
I did two years of that and it was horrifying.
I hated my brother for it. I never thought I
was going to become an actor ever. Never wanted to ever.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
I wanted to go and woke up in Hollywood.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Seventh han't been tortured by you guys. Remember I was in.
Speaker 7 (12:10):
I would go to the trailer with you and the kids,
But I was one who was using.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
The uh the kids uh acting coaches. Sorry done, yes,
thank you. That's true.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
I remember done helping you.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
To all the time.
Speaker 5 (12:26):
But there's no shame in it. Helped everybody. She was
there as as the child wrangler, you know, kind of
as her main title, but really Don was like there
for the entire cast, and she is.
Speaker 8 (12:42):
An acting coach, so I'd like to get like that
kind of feedback. And I mean, she was wonderful for
all of us. But I did not know that you
were you would work with Don.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Every single day. I didn't know. It wasn't no way
I would have been long time. That's amazing.
Speaker 5 (12:58):
And again under scores what we said and we talked
to Don that like that. She was really this kind
of unique presence on our set. That made everything, you know,
kind of greased the wheels for the cast, you know,
like kept us like moving as fast as we did.
Speaker 6 (13:14):
You kept acting a little bit like did you not
do some Hallmark Christmas stuff for lifetime?
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Oh? Yeah, a woman in the other room who's laughing right.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Now, You're in a couple of Christmas classics, Like.
Speaker 7 (13:28):
I ever watched the Hallmark Christmas movie before. The last
thing I thought I'd be doing after seventh Heaven is that?
And then the first one I did was with an
actress named Alicia Witt, and I was naive as always.
I was like, oh, Alicia, is this your first Christmas
movie too? She goes, George, You're an idiot. I've done
like ten. I'm like, okay, sorry, Yeah. So then I
ended up doing like six Thanks to you over there.
(13:51):
I always had a blast a lot of I always
wanted to do what Yeah, I told a couple of
people that I'll come out of tournament from Christmas movies
only if you and Iron.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Well, that would be a fascinating story.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
What would everybody?
Speaker 5 (14:08):
I'll have fun, That's what everybody requests, that very Christmas event.
Speaker 8 (14:15):
Because our relationship has always been one of like you
looked at you were like my brother.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
You used to drive me just nuts.
Speaker 6 (14:23):
Like you your fan George gets stabbed in the eye.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
Back told me to harass as much as possible.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Of course, Well, I mean you learned from the best.
Speaker 8 (14:37):
But no, I mean I think that was always our
relationship was so it was always so funny when we're
supposed to be like husband and wife, and I just remember.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
You used to just like you.
Speaker 8 (14:47):
You knew when I was wound too tight, when to
just be like.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Like you were like that little kid.
Speaker 8 (14:55):
That's just like like George.
Speaker 5 (15:00):
On a normal set, if one of the leads is
wound up tight, that the set will become a little
like walking on eggshells. Everything will quiet down, people will
avoid the conflict. But on our set, we were a
big family, so if Bev was wound up that day,
we would all just kind of like instigate, we would
lean in.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
So, yeah, you know, you guys got away with it.
If I didn't, I was.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
Not true at all.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
We were fine, but.
Speaker 5 (15:31):
You definitely how was your day on set in trouble
with the way that.
Speaker 8 (15:38):
George would call Michael being like sorry, sorry, Michael, are
we going out next weekend?
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Just don't tell Beb.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
Don't tell Ben, because you still have the wedding picture though.
Speaker 7 (15:55):
I have it somewhere. I just because when my brother
moved to Hermosa Beach for a while and I got
in there by myself one time and hung it up
without him knowing.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
So when he came home the next day he was
out of town. When he came home, that was the
first thing you saw was a frank and it was
up there for years.
Speaker 8 (16:16):
Yeah, that's amazing, my goodness.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Yeah, because that was the one hundred and fifty of us.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
She has the same photo. Yeah, you can talk about that, though.
Speaker 8 (16:24):
One hundred and fifty was I was the wedding episode.
Speaker 5 (16:28):
Yeah, was good about hitting milestones with things like that.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
You know.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
So how many episodes were you on for then?
Speaker 2 (16:35):
According to sixties No, according to our cheat sheet, it
was over one hundred.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Wow. And how many was the total?
Speaker 4 (16:45):
How many were you in?
Speaker 3 (16:46):
BEV?
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Forty two, dred and forty seven?
Speaker 4 (16:51):
None of us were at all of them except for Bed.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (16:54):
I think I'm pretty sure BEV was the only one
who made made it all.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
I did read that, Yeah, yeah, make can you believe that? Yes, yeah,
you believe that?
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Yeah, wait, was Catherine not and everyone?
Speaker 2 (17:06):
No, I don't think so she was just what were
I think.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
Details?
Speaker 1 (17:12):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
I believe.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
I just know that if I had to put money
on it, we'll have to fact check.
Speaker 8 (17:18):
Two forty three and was what the only cast members
who were in every episode were I believe Stephen and myself.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
And yeah, I believe it.
Speaker 8 (17:28):
I think that's yeah, maybe happy Happy Happy. Does anything
stand out from your time with us on seven seven?
Speaker 7 (17:46):
I mean, I, like I said, I had no right.
I was so fortunate be part of the show. I
loved it so much. You just brought up Catherine, and
she is a very lovely human being. I remember her
coming up to me one day ago. Because you guys
had been on it for seven seasons before I got it.
I was forty five going to the kids acting coach
(18:08):
down every day. But I loved it, and I just
loved every part of it and learning and you guys,
whether you know it or not, you all helped me
get over my fear of doing that stuff and teaching
me tricks and whatever. But I was still horrified for
the most part until probably the last episode.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
I was.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
All of a sudden, this is good yeah, I can
do this.
Speaker 7 (18:34):
Yeah, but I had a last every episode, and I remember,
I don't know I whenever Brenda made me a serious regular.
I remember one day Katherine coming up to me and
she's like, George, aren't you bored of this? You ever
gonna you think you want to do something else? And
I was like, why what are you talking about? This
is great, food's amazing. You guys are all cool. I'm
(18:55):
not going anywhere.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Kick me off.
Speaker 8 (18:59):
I do remember, I do remember like you loved like
being there. You loved like the crew and the food.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Definitely.
Speaker 8 (19:08):
I think there was definitely some to go boxes that
went on with you on every occasion.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Nothing else.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
One where. The were the best. They are arcaters. They
were m vps all the time.
Speaker 8 (19:23):
Man.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
They took such great care of us.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
We were spoiled for their cooking.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
I'd be like four five four five.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
They gave you an extra couple of years.
Speaker 5 (19:38):
I mean, George, my memories of you on the set
are just like you. You came into set and and
you were green, but you were always you were always
so like, so positive, so happy, go lucky. We It's
it's in the same way that I think back about
(19:58):
working with Barry. Like when I I remember working with Barry,
we were always laughing, was teasing each other. We always
had some joke going on on the side between takes,
and and your energy on set was like that with
with everybody. And you very quickly kind of just assimilated
right into our family and became, you know, one of us.
And and like I always remember, you know, the good
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vibes that we always.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
Had taking yourself too serious satis.
Speaker 5 (20:26):
Of course, we were always laughing, we were always having fun.
You know, it's and it goes to it says a
lot about the kind of set that we had in general.
But but you know, there were certain key players on
set that that really brought that kind of positive vibe.
And you were you were one of a man for sure, the.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
Ray of sunshine, golden hair.
Speaker 8 (20:54):
Except when we were trying to be serious. And then
there's sometimes where.
Speaker 7 (20:58):
You were about to murder me me too.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
All the time.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
Sometimes I wanted to each each car I ever wanted
to know.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
I don't think first of all, now I'm sounding even worse,
you know, not you were worse about it was.
Speaker 8 (21:19):
I definitely was like strict in the sense of like
always like professional. So I always wanted everything to like,
I didn't want to waste anyone's time, So I sometimes
I do admit that I would forget to also have fun.
I think that's what it was is I was so
(21:40):
focused on the end product that I missed the moment
of like actually sometimes enjoying it and sometimes.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Took that away from other people. I'm really sorry.
Speaker 5 (21:48):
It's like because.
Speaker 6 (21:53):
But it's like a car can take you from point
A to point B, right, Like the reason people like
fun cars is because they want to enjoy the journey
point A to point B. It's not being at dinner,
it's to dinner.
Speaker 5 (22:06):
I think I I avoided it with you, certainly because
I was always that like I was the drama kid too.
So like when I worked with you, I would lock
in with you. You know, when I was working with George,
we'd mess around, and you know, I was always kind
of able to like blend in with you know, the
different people that I was working with, which is great.
(22:29):
It's yeah, sure, it's but like you know, I feel
like maybe that's why you go, no, we didn't ever
fight it or like, no, that's because I knew that
when I was working with you, we would lock in
and we would, you know, focus on the work, and
that's how we enjoyed our time to.
Speaker 8 (22:43):
Get But I do have to say we still had
fun even though whether you liked it, but I also
our relationship always was like you used to drive me nets,
but I also like loved that about.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
You because that's just that was us.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Like absolutely, I agree.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
It's familiar.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
You're like, I'm not going to I'm disagreed here. Definitely, Yes,
more fortunate we did have.
Speaker 6 (23:10):
A lot of you know, after a certain amount of time,
you can become, you know, used to a poison.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
You can just.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
We can't function without it.
Speaker 7 (23:18):
You two were always beyond prepared and professional. But I
don't remember him being able to go back and forth
like I could not do that like.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
You did, and I was always impressed. It's like, I
don't think I'm ever going to be able to be
that professional and be able to joke around it is
it really is. Thank you.
Speaker 7 (23:39):
By the way, quick question, do you remember somebody calling
accidentally calling you Gary Gallagher because then my brother and I.
Speaker 5 (23:46):
Gary so so Gary Okay, Yes, I remember you because.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
We were there. I remember they were like, okay, from
now we call him Gary.
Speaker 4 (23:54):
Is that where it started.
Speaker 5 (23:55):
Yes, what I do remember, and I don't remember for
the life of me why, but I remember you guys
had like the alternate like personality for me that was
Gary and I don't know where it started, but I
remember just leaning into guy made a mistake.
Speaker 7 (24:12):
But I don't think we called them out when they
did it, but then afterwards we just kept.
Speaker 4 (24:17):
Like, well, this is now, let's see.
Speaker 8 (24:22):
And how was it Gary working when having your brother
on the show too?
Speaker 2 (24:26):
What was that like?
Speaker 1 (24:28):
Oh God, can I tell that story?
Speaker 4 (24:30):
Yes, yeah, I do it.
Speaker 7 (24:31):
So remember I am as green as you can possibly get.
And I can't remember my real age at the time,
but I was ten years older than you and whatever.
But so Jeff and Jessica, I remember my first day
on I think it was my first day on set,
and I'm nervous as all heck, and I think you
(24:54):
and I have our first kissing scene and I'm wait.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
The is a kissing scene.
Speaker 4 (25:03):
That tracks He came in and.
Speaker 7 (25:10):
Within the first couple of days and I was just
so nervous, and those two pricks, Jeff and Jessica came
up to me and they're like, okay, George, Uh, we
just talked to Beverly and she wants this to look good,
and so you have to use tongue.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
And I'm like already sweating bullets because I ain't even.
Speaker 5 (25:33):
Talk so hard and remember.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
And going in for the kiss and Beverly pushing me away,
going what are you doing?
Speaker 7 (25:50):
And I'm horrified in front of however many people were there.
I'm never going to recover from this, the bolts of
the stay for that one.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Do you remember I kind of blocked? I think you
probably didn't. My god, that that's pretty bad.
Speaker 5 (26:12):
That tracks definitely. I mean, yeah, it makes perfect sense.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Oh my god.
Speaker 6 (26:17):
I hadn't lean away from the mic for a second
parts of that story before, but I didn't realize that
my brother and yeah.
Speaker 5 (26:24):
I actually thought it was like Jeff and Jess were
like you were, Oh.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
It was horrified and when and I was like, well,
I'm for sure fired.
Speaker 4 (26:38):
It's your brother.
Speaker 7 (26:39):
Your brother was like, oh, I'm gonna really screw over
my brother camera just laughing there.
Speaker 8 (26:45):
I'm like, it makes sense.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Also, Jesse would love to mess with me.
Speaker 4 (26:50):
Oh yeah, totally. I believe this one's going to be
friend here.
Speaker 8 (26:55):
I was always I know, both of them, what we're
gonna I'm gonna call her up to be like, hey,
you got.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
I sure, just remembers. There's a lot of things that
she likes to.
Speaker 8 (27:08):
Block out, like when she left me on the top
of the mountain in Colorado and it was a black
diamond and I couldn't get down. How did you I
haven't forgiven her for that yet, How did you really?
Speaker 3 (27:18):
Did you just take your skis off and walk down?
Speaker 2 (27:20):
No, I know.
Speaker 8 (27:26):
I wasn't hard enough to do that, and I faced planted.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
And almost like broke my anyway, It's that's a whole
different time.
Speaker 8 (27:34):
Know, I bitched and the whole way down the mountain
try and cassing them out, and then I broke my
goggles and it just was anyway. So but I have
now another reason to call down, Like jes First of all,
I'm sorry, that's that's rough entry.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
It's a really rough entry.
Speaker 4 (27:59):
And then it thinks.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
George into the trailers, start working on your lines, and
I was just shaking horrified.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Oh my god.
Speaker 8 (28:08):
I just I do remember Brenda being so excited, like
I have this great guy for your boyfriend on the show,
and he's got a brother, his brother's on their show,
and I was like Jeff's brother and please and then
here look at you out last him and have a
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hundred episodes.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
Oh man, and.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Rode out the whole way.
Speaker 8 (28:42):
Do you know that we actually had the Yadrik twins
on the other day. They just turned twenty one, So
our little Savannah can.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Now go to bars insane scary, isn't that frightening?
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Yeah? And I used to hang out with their parents
at real bars in need some Beach while they were
on the show. Anyway, I want to edit that one out.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
So what has it been like, you know, after seventh seven?
Speaker 4 (29:19):
Yeah, the post journey.
Speaker 7 (29:23):
Even though I like to pretend I'm a tough guy,
it was well, remember the show ended and then got
brought back the other season.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
So that was weird. Yeah, it was so weird.
Speaker 7 (29:35):
But yeah, when it was officially over with, I can't
remember where. I was out of town somewhere and knew
that there was no chance because I was like, ah,
maybe they're playing around, they'll be in twelfth season or whatever.
But then I found out it was never going to
come back, and it sunk in and I was really sad.
I was sad the first time, but then this time
(29:56):
it was really sad. Because I, like I said, I
know that my opinion, we were all fortunate to be
part of it because it was a special show. But
for me, I know it was I was fortunate and
it was special.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
So I definitely was a little emotional for a while,
and then I.
Speaker 7 (30:14):
Honestly didn't think that I'd ever do any other acting
again because I never had a passion for it like
my brother did or I don't know if you guys did.
You started so young that I don't know if you
can say you had a passion for it, or maybe
you just eventually got a passion for it or what.
I don't know, but I never had that, so I
knew I was going to be fine either way. But
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anytime I've worked since then, I've had fun and enjoy
the people I was working with. And it's not like
I don't you know, I never thought of myself as
playing another character. I've always just tried to be myself
as much as possible because I'm just not good enough
to be a character.
Speaker 5 (30:56):
That's okay, y, Obviously there were there were rules for
you to pick up like that.
Speaker 4 (31:01):
I mean that that worked, you know that worked for you?
Speaker 5 (31:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (31:05):
Okay, Funny people play themselves in everything they do.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
Oh yeah, and have great success doing it.
Speaker 4 (31:11):
Exactly, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 7 (31:12):
But again, I never had as much fun working as
we did on Seventh Heaven, but I've always enjoyed myself.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
Well because it was it was.
Speaker 8 (31:22):
It's very clear that it was a very special set
and we had.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
One. We had a pretty easy schedule too, which Yeah.
Speaker 7 (31:33):
By the time I got on it, I didn't understand
that you guys had it down so well that it
only took how many days to shoot an episode by
the six or seventh seas.
Speaker 5 (31:43):
By the sixth season, we were probably down to seven days,
six and a half or six and a half seven.
I think it got down to six I think was
the fastest we ever got. But I wasn't there for
the last season with you guys, so I don't know
if you guys tightened it up even more.
Speaker 8 (31:56):
Oh, we did, because we were barely making We were
barely you can get to like one shot after lunch.
Speaker 6 (32:02):
That's right, financially efficient as well, and that probably helped.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
They were just trying to get there.
Speaker 6 (32:10):
We could have gotten down to four days. There may
have been a season twelve hot I.
Speaker 8 (32:14):
Mean, yeah, possibly, right, I mean we just talked to
Haley the other day and we were reminded that also
we went to New York at one point.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
I had to go to New York.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
That's right. What season was that?
Speaker 2 (32:28):
Season ten? And oh no, I think it was season
eleven and I get to fly with Brenda on the
private jet.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
No, look at you. I didn't know that. Just now, Brenda,
you're dead to me.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
You weren't in the season.
Speaker 8 (32:49):
But I also think what was cool too, is like
I think there was a lot of long term friendships
that came, you know, from from.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
The show too.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (33:00):
When you're on a show that long, especially you guys, uh,
you just had something special and those of us that.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
Were lucky to be on it for you know, a
long period of time you got to see that for sure. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
So do you have any favorite episodes? Do you remember
any episodes?
Speaker 1 (33:22):
I remember you and I and Malibu in a convertible?
Why wait, wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait.
Let me get to this the musical episode. Let's come clean, Beverly.
How did I end up having to sing and dance?
Cannot call what I did singing and dancing? Do you remember? Why?
Speaker 2 (33:42):
I don't remember because.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
You didn't want to do it, so Brenda basically strong
army and said, George, you're doing this or I'm gon
whoop your little booty. And I'm like, Brenda, you don't understand.
I can't sing, I can't dance. I can barely do
what you're having me do every day on the show.
That's the most horrifying thing I've ever gone.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
Wait a second, I wouldn't sing and dance. Really, yeah,
because I tried to have a country what.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
I'm talking about. I think you said.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
I'm a respected country artist.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
George, George anything.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
I probably did say that, though.
Speaker 7 (34:25):
When they came up to me, I was like, they
gotta be joking. They're just pulling a prank.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
On me right now.
Speaker 5 (34:30):
I also backed out of doing the song and dance episode.
They like having a scene and then and then I
just get up and walk away, and then this whole
dance number comes out of nowhere and starts, and then
when the dance number ends and all the dancers go away,
(34:52):
I just like, come back and then can this scene?
Speaker 1 (34:57):
And I was just like.
Speaker 5 (34:59):
I I was also like, I'm not, this is not
what I'm doing here. I don't this is not you know,
We're not a musical show, but not a single dancer
like this. I don't understand why.
Speaker 6 (35:13):
I don't remember it was it was allin that.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
Was it?
Speaker 3 (35:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (35:22):
Oh a, I think I just I just saw that
script because I I scanned season seven.
Speaker 6 (35:29):
Through eleven because we had the guy on there who
was like one of the foremost like modern like Gershwin
expert music men.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
Was who was he?
Speaker 4 (35:41):
I don't know she because at that point she was old.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
Enough to.
Speaker 6 (35:45):
Shadow as one of our guest stars for that episode,
and he was sort of the driving force behind that.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Yeah, yeah, I remember.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
Also, the kid who played my boyfriend at the time
was very musical. And you know which boyfriend, Thom It
was Thomas Ducker. It was okay, Vincent.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
Vincent good memory?
Speaker 3 (36:09):
First kiss on TV?
Speaker 1 (36:10):
Oh on TV? Yeah? Okay? And soft.
Speaker 8 (36:27):
So are there any other episodes that stand down aside
from the one that you have given that gave you nightmares?
Speaker 1 (36:37):
Why were we in Malibu? Again? Well, you were singing
in Malibu? Were you doing something?
Speaker 8 (36:42):
I think that was there was when we were supposed
to go to cross I think that was were a
potential spin off. Remember where we went to cross Roads
and we were looking at a potential place for us
to move, I believe. And uh, there was like a
ministry that was also in a bar, and I believe,
(37:05):
wasn't it at the remember that bar into Peanga Canyon.
It's like a biker.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Bar, the old place Salon we shot there.
Speaker 6 (37:17):
I don't remember that burnt down, lots of things.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
Malbourn Is that what it's called? No, we were cross
there on the beach side.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
It's like the old places in the far.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
No.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
No, no, it's literally called the old.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
Place between the one on one in the right.
Speaker 8 (37:39):
Oh it's on a canyon, yes, yeah, But that was
like towards the end. I think they were prepping for
it to potentially go off to be a spin off
which spun itself right into the ground and went nowhere,
what do.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
You guys have a favorite? I mean, you guys were
in so yeah, there's.
Speaker 5 (38:03):
But you so you were there during the sea stage
era as well, right, so, like because because our sea
stage was your guys's place, I remember correctly, right, remember
when we had the extra stage that they had stage
over it in Culver City and it was like a
(38:24):
nice change of pace for us.
Speaker 4 (38:25):
All of a sudden it changed the drive in a
little bit.
Speaker 5 (38:29):
But then I just remember every time I went over
to Sea Stage, it was either your Guys's place or.
Speaker 4 (38:36):
The attic set.
Speaker 5 (38:37):
There was a couple of sets that were over there
at some point, and I remember that was every time
I was on Sea Stage, I was with you.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
Dang, I totally forgot about that.
Speaker 4 (38:48):
Yeah, we had that.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
It smelled like.
Speaker 4 (38:52):
Sea Stage was weird, little stinky.
Speaker 3 (38:57):
Awful, very remember those.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
Yeah, I didn't love c Stage as much as I
loved Home.
Speaker 4 (39:05):
No, I don't think any of us did.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
Yeah, it was, Yeah, I definitely do, even though it
was closer.
Speaker 7 (39:12):
But why did Seventh Heaven have their own stages in
that area?
Speaker 5 (39:17):
Spelling that it was spelling spelling owned the the building
that we were in, Like he, I think we was
all under That was what spelling the property, And that's
why our production and studio was all kind of contained
and on its own.
Speaker 4 (39:34):
It was spelled the.
Speaker 8 (39:35):
Suff Is that why they were No, Buffy wasn't with
us though they were down the street.
Speaker 3 (39:41):
But was that also that was that wasn't spells spelling.
Speaker 4 (39:44):
Yeah, he wasn't spelling no w B.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (39:47):
Yeah, But I think the model for that for having
your own spot was from us?
Speaker 4 (39:54):
Was it was like a spelling thing.
Speaker 3 (39:57):
Interesting.
Speaker 5 (39:58):
I don't know, maybe I'm wrong about that, but that
was always That was always my impression of it was
that we were kind of in our own We had
our own little world because we were the spelling show.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (40:09):
I remember a lot of people always would mention how
lucky we were to have our own.
Speaker 5 (40:15):
Yeah, we didn't have to deal with in and out
of the studios, and yeah, going in and out of
burbank or you know, any of those areas that are
much harder to you know, much more congested.
Speaker 3 (40:25):
Walk to your car.
Speaker 8 (40:27):
And you had guest stars on other sets, So what
did how did those compare?
Speaker 2 (40:34):
You're like, do you like, do you need to look
at your IMDb to like remember what those?
Speaker 3 (40:39):
Would you like me to share your I.
Speaker 7 (40:42):
Remember doing when I was even greener, I did like
a co star on Friends and a co star on
Will and Grace. I had one word on Will and Grace.
I was Jack's closetive boyfriend. My dad walks in in
some bar, restaurant or whatever, and Jack and I are
holding holding each other, and I look up and see
my dad and my one word is dad? Question mark Dad.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
That's a good reason.
Speaker 3 (41:06):
How long did you.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
Care for that? Well, I didn't have Dawn, so it was.
Speaker 8 (41:15):
And then that's a sitcom, so that's even that's a
whole different experience, a whole different experience because you're.
Speaker 2 (41:21):
In front of a live audience.
Speaker 7 (41:22):
I got fired off Spin City.
Speaker 1 (41:26):
Ye why because because he got Yep, you.
Speaker 6 (41:31):
Tried it the second time City after no before.
Speaker 7 (41:37):
I'm pretty sure it was before because that was that
was in nineties. I was brought on to be heatherlock
Clear's boy toy for a scene. But then when I
got there in front of the live audience, it was
the body just shut.
Speaker 4 (41:51):
Down but couldn't wake up. The physique.
Speaker 1 (41:58):
Oh, it was horrifying. I was like, this woman's supposed
to do this.
Speaker 4 (42:07):
I should have been there. I would have had your.
Speaker 5 (42:11):
George get in there and get going.
Speaker 4 (42:15):
You this just confidence.
Speaker 1 (42:18):
I still got paid, which is very kind.
Speaker 3 (42:19):
Of Thanks for listening.
Speaker 9 (42:23):
We enjoyed George's company so much that it wouldn't fit
into one episode, so stay tuned for part two of
our conversation with the legendary Kevin kin Kirk. In the meantime,
don't forget to subscribe, leave a review or If you
want to watch the episodes, you can always check them
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of Madness
Speaker 6 (43:00):
Different, different, different,
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