July 8, 2024 • 45 mins
Hosts David, Mack, and Beverley delve into their early days of being child actors and their first jobs (hint: there are many dogs of all types.) The group also shares behind-the-scenes anecdotes on how they got cast in their respective roles, their favorite on-set meals, the unglamorous honeywagons and the difficulty of shedding a New Yawk accent. And if all that doesn't scratch your itch for Glenoak, Beverley also brought along her season one scrapbook!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
I need my uber driver with that like calming meditation
whistle that she blew from me the other day. That
was no, you're right, you did it. This lady was
cool and she talked about frequencies and communicating with the
animals and kind of voodoo.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Okay, who wants to do who wants to do the
intro bev Okay again, I don't care.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
I mean I can do it back. So this is
So and so you're watching catching Up with the Camdens.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Start with, uh, this is catching up with the Camdens.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Then I'm so and so. But okay, all right, this
is catching up with the Camdens. And I'm becusie.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Okay, let's do that again. I got this is back
to like literally I remember, do you remember there was
episodes where you used to say things as fast as
you possibly could.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
When you do your lines like she would be like, wait,
I'd be done.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
Well.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
I was telling you that it could cause blindness, injury,
organ dimension death. It was like that, Okay, hey, let's try.
Get ready. This is catching up with the Campins. And
I'm Nzy Ross, I'm.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Beverily Mitchell, I'm David Gallagher, and.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
We are excited to this episode, talk about how it
all began, like how we got.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Into the business, the origins, So who the origins story?
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Yeah, So who wants to go first?
Speaker 4 (01:45):
David? David Me, you want me to go first? Yeah?
All right, jeez. Well it all started when I begin.
Speaker 5 (01:55):
So, I'm from New York, and when I was eighteen
months old, my mom started taking me out to calls.
This the way she puts it is that like she
did it because she thought I was cute and she
wanted to see her kid on TV. And so the
first thing she ever took me to was a like
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a print call in New York, and I booked it,
and so that was like the kind of dopamine rush
that she needed to be like, well, this is what
we're doing now. So and then it just kind of
it kind of went from there, And I did my
first commercial when I was like four, and I did
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and then when I was five is when it's this
whole time. I'm the oldest of five kids, so my
family was kind of growing this whole time.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
And then my when my dad.
Speaker 5 (02:54):
Started working with me on auditions, I started getting more
into theatrical stuff and I did my first film when
I was eight and that was the first time I'd
ever been on a plane and ever, like we had
to go to Canada, like left the country.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
I did. Look he's talking now with John Shabolt and
Christy Ali and uh, it's.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Such a cute movie. That's yeah, a fun movie.
Speaker 5 (03:17):
And you know, then that was a crazy experience. Learned
how to swim on when we were out in Canada
that time. Like that was me and my dad. That
was like our first adventure together, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
So that was fun. And then.
Speaker 5 (03:34):
After that I had did Phenomenon, and then after Phenomenon,
I did theater, so I got which is another kind
of crazy story. But I was not a theater kid.
I could not sing, I couldn't dance. But for some
reason I got into a audition for Great There yep,
(03:57):
there it is. And I remember when it came out
in ninety four and like going with my family to
the movie theater and like taking pictures in front of
like the poster outside our local movie theater and stuff
like that, you know, and it was you know, I
was always just excited to like to make my family
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proud and see how excited it made everybody, you know,
like every it was such a big deal.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
To our family.
Speaker 5 (04:23):
And anyway, when I was when I was ten, I
had gotten in on this Broadway audition and I did
Christmas Carol the first year that that production was in
New York on Broadway.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
Yeah, it was off Broadway.
Speaker 5 (04:40):
Was it the theater that was attached to like Madison
Square Garden or like in that it was, I forget
the name of the like exactly how that goes on
the theater is my only theater experience, and I was
basically just the wild card on that set. Like all
the other kids were theater kids that were trained and
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dancing in theater.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
Acting as a whole nother ballgame, it's a completely different thing.
And I was just like the kind of like oddball,
like loud New York kid that they hired.
Speaker 5 (05:14):
And I played Young Scrooge and I was in a
couple of numbers and stuff. And then right after that season,
so that was over the winter season, it was the.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
Show.
Speaker 5 (05:25):
My family decided because I had a lot of momentum
at that in that moment in my career, because I
had the movie coming out and I just came off
the stage show, and my family was like, we're going
to California this year, and we just kind of like
picked up and jumped on a plane with most of
our thing, whatever we could bring, and went to California.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
And when I came out for that pilot season, I.
Speaker 5 (05:49):
Was up for three things, so I had gotten into
The first one I remember specifically was The Pauly Shore Show. Okay,
so the I was testing for the poly Shore Show.
The second one was a film, and honestly, I can't
remember if it was one of the Tim Allen.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
Movies that I had tested for.
Speaker 5 (06:13):
I've tested twice with Tim Allen back then in the nineties.
The first time was for The Santa Claus and the
second time was for a movie called Jungle to Jungle,
and I tested for both of those films.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
I don't remember which one was this year. It might
have been The Santa Claus. And then the third one
was Seventh Heaven. And so.
Speaker 5 (06:35):
We came out here, you know, on a kind of
on a whim, and then I tested for all these things,
but then one after another I had lost them, and
so I lost a Pauly Shore Show, I'd lost a film,
and then the last thing I tested for was Seventh Heaven.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
And my my.
Speaker 5 (06:52):
Story about the test was that we talked about this
a bit at nineties Con was that, you know, we
were all there for the mix and matches and the
and the you know, the executive read.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
And my parents always did this thing.
Speaker 5 (07:06):
So when I worked with like John Travolta, like I was,
you know, I was eight years old and I didn't
know who John Travolta was, and so they'd always kind
of go like, all right, so you're working with this
guy and he's in it, he's from these movies and
he had this and they kind of break down for
me for eight year old me, like, you know, the
person that I was about to meet, whoever I was,
you know, there to impress, say anything with Tim Allen
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and you know everybody that I was, you know.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
You did your helmework.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
Kind of yeah.
Speaker 5 (07:30):
They would do their homework and then kind of break
it down for me andre like oh, and so the
thing we did for Seventh Heaven it was Aaron Spelling,
and they were they explained to me that who Aaron
Spelling was and he'd produce all these TV shows and stuff.
And I walked into the to the executive read and
I was just like, well, before we start, I was like,
which one of you is Aaron Spelling, And everyone just
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kind of think. The room kind of was quiet for
a second, and then you know this, this little old
man in the back kind of raised his hand and smiled,
and I was like, oh, well, I hear you're a
very big deal around here. I just wanted to shake
your hand. And I marched over to the executive group
and and shook his hand, and then and then I
went back and did my scene. And the scene for
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the pilot was all the audition stuff for me was
the the wanting happy It was all about how I
wanted a dog. And I had a lot of experience
in this because look who's talking now was also about
me and my dog.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
So I like this was kind of like my lane.
Speaker 5 (08:32):
Yeah, this was this. I was kind of known for this.
You know, the kid with his dog was my thing.
But yeah, that's a thing that it pushed me over
the edge and got me into the show with you guys.
Was that, you know that I had ingratiated myself to
mister Spelling and kind of like, you know, made made
a fool of myself. But I'm sure in a silly
pete wall, you know that's.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Actually what like, I mean, i'd hire you. I think
it shows one the gusto. And also just like I
just remember I do remember us all kind of just
standing in line, like just being stared at It's like
for everyone to like look at us.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
And to see us.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
And I think remember like you kind of like looking
down and.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Like just like sizing everybody up like he was like,
I just remember like this little face just kind of
like and I remember being just back in.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Line, like I felt like it was almost like a lineup.
Speaker 5 (09:22):
It did feel of it, Like yeah, for sure, Yeah,
I was just fearless as a kid, you know, like
I had that we were from New York, very loud family.
Like I was kind of big and boisterous and wasn't
afraid of adults, and I wasn't afraid to make a
fool of myself or kind of like put myself out there.
And I think that that energy is kind of what
carried me through my career when I was young and
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and got me to all the you know, through all
the doors that I ended up.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Well, I remember immediately being taken by your maturity level
because I also from you know, started not as young
as you did. I started when I was four. I
was throwing a temper tenttrum at the mall because I
was hungry and I was with my aunt and she
just did not understand.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
That you need to feed a child.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
So I threw myself down on the floor of the
Sherman Oaks GALLEYA and got discovered by Corey Feldman's mom
was my manager, and that's who like discovered me and
brought me into the business. And you know, I got
I booked my first commercial like within just a few months.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
And then and then.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
I booked my first big national commercial, which was Oscar
Meyer which at that time, I don't know if you
guys had this experience, but like they used to book
like a lot of kids to do the same commercial
because they didn't know if a kid was going to
show up and actually be able.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
To pull it off.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
So they would literally have like it'd be like five
days of people like filming the same commercial and they
had five different kids, and you had but you also
did multiple commercials. You didn't just do one, and then
you never knew if your commercial was gonna hit or not.
And so mine was Oscar my commercial, which actually did
do pretty well, and actually from there kind of it
just kept snowballing and I kept working and doing like
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a lot of guest stars and all of that stuff.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
And I always felt like I was very mature. I'm
always like prepared and ready.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
You still are.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
I know, I'm sorry, and I just but I do
remember at the w B Ranch, which is so sadly
not there anymore.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
What is it now?
Speaker 3 (11:23):
They're building new studios. I just drove by it the
other day and it's so it's heartbreaking because it's just leveled.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
It's gone.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
The ranch is gone, and so many of our WB
memories were all there, like that's where we tested. And
I remember like for Seventh Heaven when I first auditioned,
they did not I didn't get a callback, and I
was like.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
No, this is my role, Like I need to be Lucy.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
And I it was the very first time in my
life that I fought to get back into a room
and to be seen again. And I fought to get
back in there and made it all the way to
night and I just remember like being so excited, and
Jesse and I hit it off right away. I think
I literally like made her sign her picture, her headshot,
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like and I was like, we're gonna do this, like
this is gonna be us, Like I can feel it, and.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
I remember you and I remember your maturity level. And
I also was like, oh my god, he's been in
really big movies, like he's like a movie star.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
And I was like, I was so impressed by you
and Mac you were just this like little Pip squeak
that was just like completely we never knew what was
going to happen, which I loved.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Was it still rings true actually, And.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
I also just remember Barry being too cool for school,
Like I just remember him just being like, I'm Barry.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
I don't remember Barry at the at the mix and match.
Speaker 5 (12:50):
I remember meeting Barry when we met Stephen and Catherine
at the table read.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
I think he was there. Maybe he left early, but
I definitely remember Barry no.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
And also I'm sure I was just in my own world,
but you know, like but that was also.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
During the times that do you also remember like it
was always the same kids that you would go up again,
so like we always go to network with all the
same type of kids, like so it was always like and.
Speaker 5 (13:13):
For me, it was both coast because there were kids
that I always was up against things in New York
right for and there were kids in LA that there
were a few like blonde haired, light eyed kids in
New York that were that I would compete with all
the time. But out in LA there were lots so
like it was strange for me because in New York,
I was more of the alternative look, you know what
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I mean, compared to most of the kids that were
being cast and a lot of stuff. It's funny that
you say about commercials about how they'd hire multiple kids
to see which ones would play out, because one of
the things that I was really great at back then
when I was young, is that I would get hired
for the commercial as like you know, like second string
or whatever, and then on the day, you know, someone
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would choke.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
And they'd be like you, you're right, you know, I
got it. Commercial's mine. Now.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Did a hot dog commercial before Seventh Heaven.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Did you realize?
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Yeah, Hormelle's hot dogs like that, free hot dogs.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
Are some of the commercials.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
I build it at the same house that we shot
the pilot.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
Up, a big yellow house in a.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Oh so that's the pilot house, but the other a
big one. Yeah. And then I did a tough healthcare
commercial before that and it was kind of funny. So
like they told all the little girls to bring their
baby doll with them for this commercial.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
I don't know where this is going, but it's making
me laugh.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
I brought my doll. Her name, my doll I named
for Shana Jackson. And I never realized this, but my
doll was black, actually my baby doll. And when they
when I went to the commercial, they swapped my doll
out for a different doll for some strange reason because
I guess she did it look like me or something.
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And I was just like so upset that I couldn't
actually do the scene with.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
My own love. That was the point.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Yeah, she was just the only non creepy looking one
at the doll store when I went to go pick
her up.
Speaker 5 (15:15):
A sign of the times, though. That's definitely like something
that they would have done back then, but they that
what they would not do now, or they it would
be kind of the other way around.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
She knew was great and our seamstress on Seventh Heaven
used to stitch Shane's head back on and her sides.
She had a lot of repair from Lua Lambert.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
It's a well loved door.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
It was well loved.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Whatever commercials did you guys do?
Speaker 1 (15:42):
I think I just did those two and then I
did a Nike commercial while we were shooting the show.
I do remember testing, and it's funny I did something similar,
they say, although I don't know if I actually remember this,
but I've been told this numerous times that I walked
up to every person in the room and shook their
hand and I was like, and they were, Oh, that's
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so cute, let's hire her.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
And we'll be right back.
Speaker 5 (16:09):
So much of the game when when we were little
was just not being scared of adults, walking up to adults,
speaking clearly, being being confident and like that was most
of the challenge for a lot of kids.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
You know, a lot the kids could perform, but we're
still shy.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
You needed to have moxie.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
I think like that was it was at that time
the industry was like the kids that came in. I
remember one commercial audition. It was I was in the
waiting room for over three and a half hours. I
remember telling my mom, I was hungry, let's just go home,
and she we knew the casting director. She's like, no,
we can't, we have to stay. You know, this is
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somebody that we know, and so we finally we went.
I went into the audition and I was like, you
couldn't find anybody already, Like what is taking you so long?
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Like honestly, you see everybody and they're like, you.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
Got the job.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
And then I finally just like, let's go get something
to eat, and I just laughed.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
But it was something.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
And that's actually what I feel, Like, what's sad now
because so many people who are getting in the industry
right noway don't get that experience. Like the joy for
me was auditioning and being able to like go in
and and have those relationships with the casting directors.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
And like being able to like express yourself that way
and show who and what we are.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Now everything's self tape and like it's you find so
many actors that like they talk to themselves in the
mirror for so long that they forget like how to interact.
It's weird, it's it's it's different.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Literally, I tend to actually like and not that I
auditioned anymore, but I after the Seventh Heaven, I had
a lot of anxiety about auditions because they don't Actually
I was so young when I started and got Seventh
Heaven or the part that I didn't really have the
memory of like going in there and owning it.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Well, yeah, because you started, you had Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
So I really do not find auditions a comfortable place
to be and struggled with anxiety about that. So the
self tape was like ideal, like all right, I could
just send it in.
Speaker 5 (18:21):
I know, auditions was life like a city three or
four a day.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Yeah. I remember I got my start because I was
hanging out with a friend in kindergarten Monday and this
guy stuck who my friend was in acting classes. I
was not. I was just hanging out and his mom
was watching me because my mom was not watching me.
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And this guy sticks his head out of a window
and was like, that's a really cute little kid. You
should call my friend. And his friend became my first manager, Terrence,
whom I recently.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Yeah, he was so sweet.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
I cut up with Terrence this past year and he's
a sweetheart. He said that he had been having a
conversation with his friend who's like, you know, I think
I need I'm looking for like a little a young
kid like to develop Like this is exactly what like
what his parameters were for the next client that he
was looking for and then like I just walked down
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this hallway apparently, and was that that was it. His
friend's like, I got your girl, you know, and I
only did.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Really, he didn't know Terrence.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
This story is actually quite creepy, but we actually know
that Terrence.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
Is a good person.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
But I will have to say that, like the retelling,
there's part of it that seems like these days would
send up like red flags, being like, well, no, what
I'm saying is so you were good and he was
a great he's a great.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (19:50):
But I also feel like back then, the discovery out
and about is kind of like a.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
More traditional story.
Speaker 5 (19:56):
I think it's like, yeah, be weirder or like that,
like when I was a kid, just kind of like.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
We I mean, I just remember like the first you know,
two years of us because I only moved to California
when I was four, And we didn't move to be
an actor or anything. That's not. We moved because my
dad got a job out there. But you know, I
just remember being on the freeway a lot. I remember
sitting in my booster seat for a long time. I
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got really good at reading in the backseat of a
car without vomiting. And it's important to lots of auditions
and lots of polaroids and a few commercials. And then
I was, you know, at my family's house and Rancho Cucamonga,
which is where I lived or in the first you
had to hear. So I didn't drive, girl, I didn't
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drive until I was eighteen, really, but I rode a lot.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
So my grandparents, I remember they like helped us pay
for my sag dues the first year when I had
to join set, you know, and it was eligible, like
you know, it was exciting, right, and and what I
didn't really know a whole lot about it. And I'm like, yeah,
you show it got picked up, and I'm like, right,
what's that?
Speaker 4 (21:13):
You know?
Speaker 1 (21:14):
I remember shooting the pilot and those slippers. They had
these slippers that I would wear all the time, and
they made them like look really disgustingly dirty on purpose.
And I remember us jumping around in circles holding hands
by that bannis like there was a staircase nearby where
we were, and and then my mom was like, you know,
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you could do the pilot, but you never know that
if it's if it's going to get picked up. Most
of them don't get picked up, and I'm like, okay,
is very true. And then the job and it gets
picked up, and then it's like the phone call every years.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
Picked up again and again.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
Do you remember where you were when you found out
the pilot went?
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (21:51):
Do you remember that moment.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
The kitchen next to our kitchen phone of the house
phone the house. It was by the way, there was
a two hour drop commute each direction to Santa Monica
to Santa Monica. Yeah, is that's where we got a
lot of time. Ten.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
I actually don't remember finding out that we were picked up.
Speaker 6 (22:16):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
I don't have that.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
Man.
Speaker 5 (22:18):
I remember, I remember we were we were about to
leave the house. I mean, I I don't remember much
about the context of it, but I just remember like
my family was like trying to get out of the house,
you know, which is always a process with all of
us and all the kids and like, and then the
phone rang, everything stopped. My parents found out, and then
it turned into like, did any.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Of your others your siblings audition because Chandler did some
auditions as well. He broke his arm in one audition
in an audition.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
How do you do that?
Speaker 1 (22:50):
When we were like young. We would do this thing
or someone would pick us up and then we would
flip back upside down. And my for youal brother does
that to the man he's like testing with in the
audition and the guy dropped it. He broke his arm that.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
I don't think I ever had an injury in an audition.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
He didn't really enjoy auditions very much.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
That's probably why he didn't.
Speaker 4 (23:15):
Not a great experience.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
I don't remember if any of your siblings did it.
Speaker 5 (23:19):
Yeah, all my brothers and sisters like tried it out
for a little while. My sister Michelle did a movie
with uh with Mirasovino and Michael Imperiali back in the
Any film called Sweet Nothing, and she played the obviously
her and I think she had a brother. There was
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two little kids, and there was a sequence in the
film where I think it was Michael Imperiali like comes in,
he comes slamming through the house and breaking stuff and
yelling and whatever.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
And they didn't.
Speaker 5 (23:51):
Tell, you know, they wanted to get the kids reactions
to it kind of organically, which they certainly did.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
My sister flipped out.
Speaker 5 (24:00):
And then she was like scared of Michael after that,
and like didn't really understand, and and then and and
after that, I don't.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
Think she wanted to do it anymore.
Speaker 5 (24:11):
Liked she just kind of, like all of my brothers
and sisters did it for a little while and kind
of didn't really attached to it in the way that
I did. And I kind of went as far as
I did in this business because I would go out
on a ton of auditions and I'd go home and
I'd be like great to play my Nintendo and I
would out of sight, out of mind, like I was
done with the auditions.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
I didn't care, So I just moved on.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
You know, if it's not that important to you, it's
much easier. It's when you make when something is all
the everything you know that you are about, then definitely.
But I also love anxiety.
Speaker 5 (24:46):
I had a certain amount of success each year. Every
now and then something came through and I would get
to be on a set, and being on set for
me was like the best, Like that to me was
the best.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
I loved being.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
I still love Being's my most commonable place to be.
It's like I know what's expected to be, what to do,
where to stand, how to be.
Speaker 5 (25:04):
It's just like yeah, and you feel like you're contributing
and you're and you have a job to do and
you feel important to.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Know how to do it.
Speaker 4 (25:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
I think also my mom used to say that when
I was auditioning. She always used to say, like, your
turn will come. So I always remembered like when all
of my friends would like get because we'd always be
the same people. I was like Scarlett Johanson, Natalie Portman,
like all these people I'd go up against and I'd
be like, Okay, well they get it, like you know,
And so I knew my time was coming. And I think,
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you know, I also knew that's also part of like
why I fought so hard for Seventh Heaven, because that's
the first and only part that I like really was like, no,
I really think that this should be be it. And
I actually think I may have initially went out for
Mary and then switched to Lucy.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
I'm not sure.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
I think that that was part of.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
It, which is obviously Lucy is far better for that
because you guys obviously only read for because yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
But there were other things that you would read for
different ones.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
And I just remember reading I wasn't read I remember
reading the whole pilot too, and just.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
That was me.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
And we'll be right back.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
I just remember reading the pilot also being like kind
of horrified because it was like that period episode which
is like so uncomfortable and awkward and weird, but also
feeling like I'm going to dive for this, like I'm
really going to like go all in and like really
like like I just even remember talking to props about
like how the tampon had to fall out of my
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shorts pocket and how the pole had to be big
enough for the tampon to slip out, and like but
also being very like methodical, being.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
I did.
Speaker 4 (26:54):
I had a flash of this in my head.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
It had to fall out of my pocket, like you know,
because you know, also because this remember the music on
Seventh Heaven was just yeah, it was right on always
and so like you know, like yeah, but like, what
was like one of your favorite scenes in the pilot
or do you I never see it?
Speaker 1 (27:15):
I mean, I, like I said, I was really little,
and I just remember when you and Jesse and I
were holding hands and we had to jump up and
down around it a cirt.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
That's in the credit opening credits.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
And I remember those really those big giant slippers that
I was wearing for like many you were wearing the
overalls and the overalls. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
Wait, actually I have some.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
Pictures and wait, let me, I think I have a
happy Oh David, that's you, and I.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
Remember shooting, like we took a bunch of pictures outside
in the backyard of that house.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
Wait, you guys, look at that. Now, this is just
classic us.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
Yeah, look at that.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
Look at that?
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Were a lot of denim, you did, everybody? It was
the Canadian toxedo.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
This is also, by the way, I found these are
straight out of my scrap books, because remember I had
all my scrap books reliving all these pictures from the pilot,
and I think actually these were all the ones for
us getting our photo shoots, for like to try.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
To get all of our smile look.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
At okay, look at just One of my favorite things too,
is like we worked back in the day when they
would say rolling and that's because it actually was rolling.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
And when we had to say cut check.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
The gate because there were gates, Like everything wasn't digital
like we we really.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
Had, you had to check the bag.
Speaker 5 (28:46):
We grew up, yeah, taking polaroids every day of our
for continuity, and it was very analog.
Speaker 4 (28:53):
It was very analog time, and it was.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
Look at you in there's you and very oh my
god with that hair.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
My mom's here is pretty cool on this too. We've
got you out of this car, Eric car And did
they crash it or something?
Speaker 3 (29:11):
And I think no, I think no, Jesse and I
did it. I think Jesse and I crashed.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
But remember Sam Wiseman, our first director, he always used
to say energy, energy, energy, energy, and then we had
to do jumping jacks, ten jumping jacks before every scene
or actually before every take.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Every like don holding my feet to the ground. So
I didn't we have a lot of frame.
Speaker 5 (29:42):
Every episode of TV, directors come in and rotate, and
eventually what happens is you get your kind of favorite
directors come back and you you a mass like a
set of directors that will then rotate in this in
the style kind of uh streamlines. But in the beginning,
you never know what you're gonna get with a bunch
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of rotating directors. So that I remember, especially in the
first season, we stylistically with the directors.
Speaker 4 (30:11):
It was kind of all over the place.
Speaker 5 (30:13):
Yeah, yeah, and the high energy stuff always felt strange
because we we were a family show.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
We were a drama. Yeah it wasn't.
Speaker 5 (30:23):
I mean, I guess it was kind of melodramatic, but
like we didn't have like sitcom energy, Like that was
not the vibe. The director was in charge. You'd always
have to kind of follow the leader in that way.
Speaker 4 (30:35):
And so like.
Speaker 5 (30:36):
Playing that game with all the different directors was really
funny in the beginning.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
And for everyone who's listening and you want to see
some of these pictures, we will absolutely be posting some
of this magic.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
And you also might see.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Some of my great scrap booking skills and lots of
stickers because I require apparently a lot of sticks.
Speaker 4 (30:57):
Your scrap booking has some great nineties colored still have.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
Some have the pink, blue and yellows a standard nineties,
some orange and I have.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
And apparently you hit it out of the park. And
you are a part of my Bev's Buds section. Let's
see with Mac and David, you are my Bev's buds.
And then do you remember the honey wagons because of course, because.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
You know, a lot of people could cure the ratty slippers.
I was talking.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
I know I remember that because you know what a
lot of people used to think like it was very
like on set you've like really made it and you
have all these beautiful light trailers.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
That is not the situation.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
We were most of my career wagons and honey wagons.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
For for the audience to understand what a honey wagon is.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
It's basically like a glorified closet with a toilet inside it.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
It's like literally to really sit down. Actually the bench
is just just wide enough to be slightly uncomfortable for
the human behind.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
Yes, and so I remember Jesse and I were right
next to each other.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
So we would open up our honeywagon to make it
fail bigger, right, we would always there was usually.
Speaker 5 (32:07):
A honey wagon is just a big trailer truck with
like eight or nine doors, right, so little hallways going
down the side of the truck and each one, you know,
as you have rotating actors coming in and out, everyone
would kind of get one and then they rotate them
for for new actors as they come and go.
Speaker 4 (32:25):
But in the beginning, that's we all had honey wagons, Like.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
You know, then you get a half banger, but that's.
Speaker 5 (32:32):
Trailer getting get into the half banger though, that felt
like we made that was like we had a nice trailer.
Speaker 4 (32:40):
Oh I don't her.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
You know, she's also a whole full trailer.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
That was a while. That took us a while.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
It took us a while, but eventually we each had
a trailer. I remember look at.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
Us sitting in front of the furnace of my trailer.
I used to do that. Get the burrito my favorite.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
My favorite for catering was like a blt. I had
a belt.
Speaker 4 (33:04):
Every morning.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
I got the same thing every day too. Every morning
six months, I diat the same thing every day for breakfast,
and then I would switch and eat something else for
six months straight.
Speaker 5 (33:12):
The best part of sets, by the way, is the
fact that you have catering and you can eat, Like
if your cater is really cool, then you can have whatever.
Speaker 4 (33:21):
You'd like, Like if the cater loves you, they'll make
you whatever you want.
Speaker 5 (33:25):
And one in a ligio ligion one they were the
heroes awesome, and I just remember just being like, you
just have whatever you want for breakfast and make me
pancakes every day.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
My favorite is like they would have it ready for
me three morning, like I never even had to order.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
Because they knew. Like one, I was quite predictable and
so they always had it.
Speaker 5 (33:45):
I think most of us all settled into like our
favorite breakfast.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
Yeah, what were your top three breakfast?
Speaker 3 (33:51):
I was the same thing I had every morning.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
Well, David, pancakes.
Speaker 4 (33:56):
It was pancakes. Usually if I was feeling fancy, it
was it was pancakes.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
So like a breakfast burrito, mine was a breakfast burrito
with turkey, mushrooms, ham, and cheese, or an English muffin
sandwichh with ham, eggs and cheese. Or the other third
option was scrambled eggs with turkey and toast. I just
rotate between those because they didn't know what you because
I make the switch to one for a season, got it,
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and then switched to the other one. It was hard
that the day where you switched breakfasts, It's like switching
time zone.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
Like, so were you guys ever, Like, let's go back
to the pilot.
Speaker 4 (34:37):
I mean we.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
So back to the pilot.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
You know, I don't really remember necessarily being nervous, or
if I was nervous, it was like when I got home,
but like being on set, I just remember like I
always stepped up and felt like this was where I belonged,
and like it felt like home.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
Always felt that was safe, my.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
Favorite place to be and it was like where I
was comfortable and just knowing what's expected of you and
how you know that's yeah, I.
Speaker 4 (35:08):
Always felt super comfortable and set, very nervous.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
Almost nice and supportive. Like what's not? So like it
was great?
Speaker 3 (35:16):
I know.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
I think it's again we had such a unique experience
because it wasn't the norm to have a set that
was so warm, welcoming and where we truly were all
there for each other and like.
Speaker 5 (35:31):
We're I mean, it was a kid friendly set. There
were so many of us, and so I think in
a way you kind of keep set drama away from
the kids like it has you know.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
Like, so so there was there.
Speaker 5 (35:45):
I'm sure there was set drama that was happening around
us and and it just didn't have nothing to do
with us, and that was fine, you know, Like but
from my perspective, it was always friendly and fun and
so much of the crew was like was like family
to us and would hang out.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
And it was a young crew I feel like too,
right was it not sort of like I remember.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
Well, I think there was definitely those that were more
experienced that definitely like had been around for a long time,
and then there were there were definitely younger.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
I felt like that I could play with No, maybe
it was only me thinking I was playing and they
were just like, you know, maybe it was pestering.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
I also remember you looking straight into the camera thinking
that they wouldn't notice.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
I also would cross my eyes notice that. I would like, yeah,
this like weird eye trick. And I also know what
could notice.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
Yeah, And then you also would. You didn't like to
be straight on your mark. So I remember don literally
standing under and then they started doing was like and
then I also remember sandbags. We had to sandbag you too,
like put the sandbags around you feet.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
Sports all the time because I would say, it's like,
you know, like this.
Speaker 3 (37:04):
I do remember that.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
And I had to sit on ferny pads a lot too.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
I also remember I used to.
Speaker 5 (37:11):
Have a little girl sports are Yeah, I mean, what.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
Were they thinking trying to put a five year old
a skirt? It's probably the fault mine. And I also
I do.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
Remember that Jesse and I used to have our own
battles though, too, because we were so close in age
and so entirely different affections. I mean, like a millisecond,
we thought Barry was hot until like then we got
to know him just a mill a millisecond.
Speaker 4 (37:43):
Any longer than that we got to Newberry, it.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
Was like, no, you're not hot anymore. You're just Berry.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
Which, which, by the way, today is today is actually
Barry's birthday?
Speaker 4 (37:53):
Is it?
Speaker 3 (37:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (37:54):
Today? Because I thought last week, no.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
Like today today, which actually I believe.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
Someone guy to know about Barry's personality.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
Happy birthday.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
There, you know, I'm just saying no, let me go
full circle on something back. Actually on the pilot it
was Barry's birthday also.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
Really, so wait, is this the anniversary of the pilot
being shot? Obviously?
Speaker 4 (38:19):
Yeah, I guess.
Speaker 3 (38:20):
Yeah, We're pretty That's why we're shooting this.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
That's why I'm shooting the podcast is because it's a
first anniversary of when we shot the pilot.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
And of Barrie's life and yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:32):
So many years ago, nineteen ninety.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
Six, baby, nineteen ninety six, ninety six, ninety six.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (38:42):
From what I remember shooting the pilot is that all
of my audition stuff was about the dog. All my
scenes in the pilot was talking to Stephen about how
that I was praying to God because I wanted a dog.
Speaker 4 (38:57):
Did you know God his dog spelled backwards? All of these.
Speaker 5 (39:00):
Things are where my moments in the pilot. And what's
funny about it. What I remember about it is that
I was the New York kid, and I was fresh
out of New York, so my New York accent was thick.
Speaker 4 (39:17):
And what many people might not.
Speaker 5 (39:21):
Remember about the nineties was that back in the nineties,
New York accents were pretty standard. They were like it
was normal for in films and in television shows for
people to have New York accents, and like it wasn't
a thing. It was just it was kind of American.
And then in the late nineties into the two thousands,
(39:43):
New York accents like kind of the California became neutral
American accent, and I had to learn to not sound
like I was fresh out of New York.
Speaker 4 (39:54):
But all of my lines were.
Speaker 5 (39:58):
About sing God for a dog, and I couldn't, like
for the life of me, figure out how to not
sound like that.
Speaker 4 (40:09):
And I remember the directors.
Speaker 5 (40:11):
Trying to help me and trying to help me, and
I remember them going to my mom and being like,
he keeps saying, dog, can you talk to him?
Speaker 4 (40:21):
And my mom looks at the ad and goes, what's
wrong with the way he says dog? And they were like,
oh no, and we'll be right back at some point.
Speaker 5 (40:36):
I remember in one scene and you've probably seen this,
I'm sure if we watched the pilot you can hear it,
because I had to say that I asked God for
a dog, which is easy to.
Speaker 4 (40:48):
Say now, but but I couldn't say ask that. I
asked you right, asked as right?
Speaker 5 (40:57):
And that that was the hardest. It was like the
biggest challenge I'd ever had on a set. And Stephen
was like, just say asked and I was like, I
can't say that, and He's like, you can, it'll be fine.
Speaker 4 (41:14):
So I did, and that's how I got through it.
Speaker 5 (41:16):
I said that I asked God, I asked God for
a dog, and I could manage to say dog, but
I couldn't say asked. And yeah, so we'll have to
read we'll have to see if.
Speaker 4 (41:31):
You can hear it.
Speaker 5 (41:33):
But but I specifically remember that, Like that was the
trick that like got me through, was that I had
to like say it a different thing to kind of
like squeeze it in there and get it, get it
past everybody.
Speaker 4 (41:46):
But yeah, that was.
Speaker 5 (41:47):
My struggle was that I still was had a very
thick New York accent and none of you guys did,
and so I had to hide it.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
You lose teeth like we had like the to get
a flip or not to get a flipper conversation.
Speaker 5 (42:02):
I went through that on Look, who's talking?
Speaker 4 (42:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (42:08):
I remember?
Speaker 6 (42:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (42:09):
And for all I lost my tooth right when we started.
Speaker 3 (42:13):
For all of those who are listening, I have a
great story for understand what a slipper is.
Speaker 1 (42:17):
So the flipper is a fake tooth that you can.
Speaker 4 (42:21):
It's a retainer with a teeth on it.
Speaker 2 (42:23):
Yeah, So that way you don't have on sightly gaps.
Speaker 5 (42:27):
Also uses your front teeth when your character doesn't.
Speaker 4 (42:33):
Then you get that. Then they put this in there
and they fill it in with a fake tooth.
Speaker 3 (42:38):
Oh wait, I think we found that. So let's let's
take a look.
Speaker 1 (42:43):
Does Grandma like dogs?
Speaker 5 (42:46):
Simon?
Speaker 4 (42:46):
What happened to the sea monkeys?
Speaker 3 (42:47):
We got?
Speaker 1 (42:47):
You remember the sea monkeys?
Speaker 4 (42:49):
This was definitely my audition scene.
Speaker 1 (42:51):
I see, uh.
Speaker 5 (42:52):
And what about the infarm they ran away?
Speaker 1 (42:55):
You dropped them?
Speaker 6 (42:56):
M hmm.
Speaker 1 (42:57):
Still and the goldfish?
Speaker 6 (42:59):
How much fish can eat dead?
Speaker 4 (43:02):
Simon? A dog is a lot harder to take care
of than all these other pets. And I'm just afraid
you're not responsible enough.
Speaker 6 (43:08):
But Dad, all that was a long long time ago.
Speaker 4 (43:10):
All that was in the last six months.
Speaker 1 (43:12):
Grown up.
Speaker 6 (43:13):
Now, I can take care of a dog.
Speaker 4 (43:15):
I swear, I don't swear.
Speaker 6 (43:19):
But what if a perfectly good dog that was out
wandering the streets on its own and could get killed anywhere,
anytime by anyone just happened to come into the yard.
Can we keep that dog? I mean, chances are you'd
have a better chance surviving here with us than out
in the streets.
Speaker 4 (43:36):
Dad, please, please, you're a pretty good negotiator, you know.
That's that was not the scene.
Speaker 1 (43:45):
But I did hear the like the the little bit
of a New York accent.
Speaker 5 (43:52):
I'm just I'm just I'm saying dog.
Speaker 1 (43:57):
Was like one word.
Speaker 2 (43:58):
You definitely said dog. But by the way, that's also
the cutest scene ever. And you are absolutely adorable.
Speaker 4 (44:04):
And it's just like, my hair looks bleached. That was
that was just my hair. God.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
I know, I think a lot of people didn't realize
like that you really that was like you.
Speaker 4 (44:15):
Yeah, I was that blonde. I was the blonde kid.
Speaker 3 (44:20):
And my banks really were that strong. My bank game.
That sounds terrible, That is I strike.
Speaker 1 (44:31):
Actually I just mysh.
Speaker 3 (44:38):
Insert foot in mouth. So I think.
Speaker 2 (44:47):
That this is a perfect spot for us to end
this episode, and I hope you guys really enjoyed it
and get ready.
Speaker 3 (44:53):
To come back to catch up with the camp Ins
on next week's episode. We're done indicate
Speaker 1 (45:06):
H
I need my uber driver with that like calming meditation
whistle that she blew from me the other day. That
was no, you're right, you did it. This lady was
cool and she talked about frequencies and communicating with the
animals and kind of voodoo.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Okay, who wants to do who wants to do the
intro bev Okay again, I don't care.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
I mean I can do it back. So this is
So and so you're watching catching Up with the Camdens.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Start with, uh, this is catching up with the Camdens.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Then I'm so and so. But okay, all right, this
is catching up with the Camdens. And I'm becusie.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Okay, let's do that again. I got this is back
to like literally I remember, do you remember there was
episodes where you used to say things as fast as
you possibly could.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
When you do your lines like she would be like, wait,
I'd be done.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
Well.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
I was telling you that it could cause blindness, injury,
organ dimension death. It was like that, Okay, hey, let's try.
Get ready. This is catching up with the Campins. And
I'm Nzy Ross, I'm.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Beverily Mitchell, I'm David Gallagher, and.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
We are excited to this episode, talk about how it
all began, like how we got.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Into the business, the origins, So who the origins story?
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Yeah, So who wants to go first?
Speaker 4 (01:45):
David? David Me, you want me to go first? Yeah?
All right, jeez. Well it all started when I begin.
Speaker 5 (01:55):
So, I'm from New York, and when I was eighteen
months old, my mom started taking me out to calls.
This the way she puts it is that like she
did it because she thought I was cute and she
wanted to see her kid on TV. And so the
first thing she ever took me to was a like
(02:18):
a print call in New York, and I booked it,
and so that was like the kind of dopamine rush
that she needed to be like, well, this is what
we're doing now. So and then it just kind of
it kind of went from there, And I did my
first commercial when I was like four, and I did
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and then when I was five is when it's this
whole time. I'm the oldest of five kids, so my
family was kind of growing this whole time.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
And then my when my dad.
Speaker 5 (02:54):
Started working with me on auditions, I started getting more
into theatrical stuff and I did my first film when
I was eight and that was the first time I'd
ever been on a plane and ever, like we had
to go to Canada, like left the country.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
I did. Look he's talking now with John Shabolt and
Christy Ali and uh, it's.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Such a cute movie. That's yeah, a fun movie.
Speaker 5 (03:17):
And you know, then that was a crazy experience. Learned
how to swim on when we were out in Canada
that time. Like that was me and my dad. That
was like our first adventure together, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
So that was fun. And then.
Speaker 5 (03:34):
After that I had did Phenomenon, and then after Phenomenon,
I did theater, so I got which is another kind
of crazy story. But I was not a theater kid.
I could not sing, I couldn't dance. But for some
reason I got into a audition for Great There yep,
(03:57):
there it is. And I remember when it came out
in ninety four and like going with my family to
the movie theater and like taking pictures in front of
like the poster outside our local movie theater and stuff
like that, you know, and it was you know, I
was always just excited to like to make my family
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proud and see how excited it made everybody, you know,
like every it was such a big deal.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
To our family.
Speaker 5 (04:23):
And anyway, when I was when I was ten, I
had gotten in on this Broadway audition and I did
Christmas Carol the first year that that production was in
New York on Broadway.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
Yeah, it was off Broadway.
Speaker 5 (04:40):
Was it the theater that was attached to like Madison
Square Garden or like in that it was, I forget
the name of the like exactly how that goes on
the theater is my only theater experience, and I was
basically just the wild card on that set. Like all
the other kids were theater kids that were trained and
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dancing in theater.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
Acting as a whole nother ballgame, it's a completely different thing.
And I was just like the kind of like oddball,
like loud New York kid that they hired.
Speaker 5 (05:14):
And I played Young Scrooge and I was in a
couple of numbers and stuff. And then right after that season,
so that was over the winter season, it was the.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
Show.
Speaker 5 (05:25):
My family decided because I had a lot of momentum
at that in that moment in my career, because I
had the movie coming out and I just came off
the stage show, and my family was like, we're going
to California this year, and we just kind of like
picked up and jumped on a plane with most of
our thing, whatever we could bring, and went to California.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
And when I came out for that pilot season, I.
Speaker 5 (05:49):
Was up for three things, so I had gotten into
The first one I remember specifically was The Pauly Shore Show. Okay,
so the I was testing for the poly Shore Show.
The second one was a film, and honestly, I can't
remember if it was one of the Tim Allen.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
Movies that I had tested for.
Speaker 5 (06:13):
I've tested twice with Tim Allen back then in the nineties.
The first time was for The Santa Claus and the
second time was for a movie called Jungle to Jungle,
and I tested for both of those films.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
I don't remember which one was this year. It might
have been The Santa Claus. And then the third one
was Seventh Heaven. And so.
Speaker 5 (06:35):
We came out here, you know, on a kind of
on a whim, and then I tested for all these things,
but then one after another I had lost them, and
so I lost a Pauly Shore Show, I'd lost a film,
and then the last thing I tested for was Seventh Heaven.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
And my my.
Speaker 5 (06:52):
Story about the test was that we talked about this
a bit at nineties Con was that, you know, we
were all there for the mix and matches and the
and the you know, the executive read.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
And my parents always did this thing.
Speaker 5 (07:06):
So when I worked with like John Travolta, like I was,
you know, I was eight years old and I didn't
know who John Travolta was, and so they'd always kind
of go like, all right, so you're working with this
guy and he's in it, he's from these movies and
he had this and they kind of break down for
me for eight year old me, like, you know, the
person that I was about to meet, whoever I was,
you know, there to impress, say anything with Tim Allen
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and you know everybody that I was, you know.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
You did your helmework.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
Kind of yeah.
Speaker 5 (07:30):
They would do their homework and then kind of break
it down for me andre like oh, and so the
thing we did for Seventh Heaven it was Aaron Spelling,
and they were they explained to me that who Aaron
Spelling was and he'd produce all these TV shows and stuff.
And I walked into the to the executive read and
I was just like, well, before we start, I was like,
which one of you is Aaron Spelling, And everyone just
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kind of think. The room kind of was quiet for
a second, and then you know this, this little old
man in the back kind of raised his hand and smiled,
and I was like, oh, well, I hear you're a
very big deal around here. I just wanted to shake
your hand. And I marched over to the executive group
and and shook his hand, and then and then I
went back and did my scene. And the scene for
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the pilot was all the audition stuff for me was
the the wanting happy It was all about how I
wanted a dog. And I had a lot of experience
in this because look who's talking now was also about
me and my dog.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
So I like this was kind of like my lane.
Speaker 5 (08:32):
Yeah, this was this. I was kind of known for this.
You know, the kid with his dog was my thing.
But yeah, that's a thing that it pushed me over
the edge and got me into the show with you guys.
Was that, you know that I had ingratiated myself to
mister Spelling and kind of like, you know, made made
a fool of myself. But I'm sure in a silly
pete wall, you know that's.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Actually what like, I mean, i'd hire you. I think
it shows one the gusto. And also just like I
just remember I do remember us all kind of just
standing in line, like just being stared at It's like
for everyone to like look at us.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
And to see us.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
And I think remember like you kind of like looking
down and.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Like just like sizing everybody up like he was like,
I just remember like this little face just kind of
like and I remember being just back in.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Line, like I felt like it was almost like a lineup.
Speaker 5 (09:22):
It did feel of it, Like yeah, for sure, Yeah,
I was just fearless as a kid, you know, like
I had that we were from New York, very loud family.
Like I was kind of big and boisterous and wasn't
afraid of adults, and I wasn't afraid to make a
fool of myself or kind of like put myself out there.
And I think that that energy is kind of what
carried me through my career when I was young and
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and got me to all the you know, through all
the doors that I ended up.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Well, I remember immediately being taken by your maturity level
because I also from you know, started not as young
as you did. I started when I was four. I
was throwing a temper tenttrum at the mall because I
was hungry and I was with my aunt and she
just did not understand.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
That you need to feed a child.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
So I threw myself down on the floor of the
Sherman Oaks GALLEYA and got discovered by Corey Feldman's mom
was my manager, and that's who like discovered me and
brought me into the business. And you know, I got
I booked my first commercial like within just a few months.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
And then and then.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
I booked my first big national commercial, which was Oscar
Meyer which at that time, I don't know if you
guys had this experience, but like they used to book
like a lot of kids to do the same commercial
because they didn't know if a kid was going to
show up and actually be able.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
To pull it off.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
So they would literally have like it'd be like five
days of people like filming the same commercial and they
had five different kids, and you had but you also
did multiple commercials. You didn't just do one, and then
you never knew if your commercial was gonna hit or not.
And so mine was Oscar my commercial, which actually did
do pretty well, and actually from there kind of it
just kept snowballing and I kept working and doing like
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a lot of guest stars and all of that stuff.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
And I always felt like I was very mature. I'm
always like prepared and ready.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
You still are.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
I know, I'm sorry, and I just but I do
remember at the w B Ranch, which is so sadly
not there anymore.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
What is it now?
Speaker 3 (11:23):
They're building new studios. I just drove by it the
other day and it's so it's heartbreaking because it's just leveled.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
It's gone.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
The ranch is gone, and so many of our WB
memories were all there, like that's where we tested. And
I remember like for Seventh Heaven when I first auditioned,
they did not I didn't get a callback, and I
was like.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
No, this is my role, Like I need to be Lucy.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
And I it was the very first time in my
life that I fought to get back into a room
and to be seen again. And I fought to get
back in there and made it all the way to
night and I just remember like being so excited, and
Jesse and I hit it off right away. I think
I literally like made her sign her picture, her headshot,
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like and I was like, we're gonna do this, like
this is gonna be us, Like I can feel it, and.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
I remember you and I remember your maturity level. And
I also was like, oh my god, he's been in
really big movies, like he's like a movie star.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
And I was like, I was so impressed by you
and Mac you were just this like little Pip squeak
that was just like completely we never knew what was
going to happen, which I loved.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Was it still rings true actually, And.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
I also just remember Barry being too cool for school,
Like I just remember him just being like, I'm Barry.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
I don't remember Barry at the at the mix and match.
Speaker 5 (12:50):
I remember meeting Barry when we met Stephen and Catherine
at the table read.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
I think he was there. Maybe he left early, but
I definitely remember Barry no.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
And also I'm sure I was just in my own world,
but you know, like but that was also.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
During the times that do you also remember like it
was always the same kids that you would go up again,
so like we always go to network with all the
same type of kids, like so it was always like and.
Speaker 5 (13:13):
For me, it was both coast because there were kids
that I always was up against things in New York
right for and there were kids in LA that there
were a few like blonde haired, light eyed kids in
New York that were that I would compete with all
the time. But out in LA there were lots so
like it was strange for me because in New York,
I was more of the alternative look, you know what
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I mean, compared to most of the kids that were
being cast and a lot of stuff. It's funny that
you say about commercials about how they'd hire multiple kids
to see which ones would play out, because one of
the things that I was really great at back then
when I was young, is that I would get hired
for the commercial as like you know, like second string
or whatever, and then on the day, you know, someone
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would choke.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
And they'd be like you, you're right, you know, I
got it. Commercial's mine. Now.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Did a hot dog commercial before Seventh Heaven.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Did you realize?
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Yeah, Hormelle's hot dogs like that, free hot dogs.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
Are some of the commercials.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
I build it at the same house that we shot
the pilot.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
Up, a big yellow house in a.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Oh so that's the pilot house, but the other a
big one. Yeah. And then I did a tough healthcare
commercial before that and it was kind of funny. So
like they told all the little girls to bring their
baby doll with them for this commercial.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
I don't know where this is going, but it's making
me laugh.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
I brought my doll. Her name, my doll I named
for Shana Jackson. And I never realized this, but my
doll was black, actually my baby doll. And when they
when I went to the commercial, they swapped my doll
out for a different doll for some strange reason because
I guess she did it look like me or something.
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And I was just like so upset that I couldn't
actually do the scene with.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
My own love. That was the point.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Yeah, she was just the only non creepy looking one
at the doll store when I went to go pick
her up.
Speaker 5 (15:15):
A sign of the times, though. That's definitely like something
that they would have done back then, but they that
what they would not do now, or they it would
be kind of the other way around.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
She knew was great and our seamstress on Seventh Heaven
used to stitch Shane's head back on and her sides.
She had a lot of repair from Lua Lambert.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
It's a well loved door.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
It was well loved.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Whatever commercials did you guys do?
Speaker 1 (15:42):
I think I just did those two and then I
did a Nike commercial while we were shooting the show.
I do remember testing, and it's funny I did something similar,
they say, although I don't know if I actually remember this,
but I've been told this numerous times that I walked
up to every person in the room and shook their
hand and I was like, and they were, Oh, that's
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so cute, let's hire her.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
And we'll be right back.
Speaker 5 (16:09):
So much of the game when when we were little
was just not being scared of adults, walking up to adults,
speaking clearly, being being confident and like that was most
of the challenge for a lot of kids.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
You know, a lot the kids could perform, but we're
still shy.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
You needed to have moxie.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
I think like that was it was at that time
the industry was like the kids that came in. I
remember one commercial audition. It was I was in the
waiting room for over three and a half hours. I
remember telling my mom, I was hungry, let's just go home,
and she we knew the casting director. She's like, no,
we can't, we have to stay. You know, this is
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somebody that we know, and so we finally we went.
I went into the audition and I was like, you
couldn't find anybody already, Like what is taking you so long?
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Like honestly, you see everybody and they're like, you.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
Got the job.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
And then I finally just like, let's go get something
to eat, and I just laughed.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
But it was something.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
And that's actually what I feel, Like, what's sad now
because so many people who are getting in the industry
right noway don't get that experience. Like the joy for
me was auditioning and being able to like go in
and and have those relationships with the casting directors.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
And like being able to like express yourself that way
and show who and what we are.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Now everything's self tape and like it's you find so
many actors that like they talk to themselves in the
mirror for so long that they forget like how to interact.
It's weird, it's it's it's different.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Literally, I tend to actually like and not that I
auditioned anymore, but I after the Seventh Heaven, I had
a lot of anxiety about auditions because they don't Actually
I was so young when I started and got Seventh
Heaven or the part that I didn't really have the
memory of like going in there and owning it.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Well, yeah, because you started, you had Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
So I really do not find auditions a comfortable place
to be and struggled with anxiety about that. So the
self tape was like ideal, like all right, I could
just send it in.
Speaker 5 (18:21):
I know, auditions was life like a city three or
four a day.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Yeah. I remember I got my start because I was
hanging out with a friend in kindergarten Monday and this
guy stuck who my friend was in acting classes. I
was not. I was just hanging out and his mom
was watching me because my mom was not watching me.
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And this guy sticks his head out of a window
and was like, that's a really cute little kid. You
should call my friend. And his friend became my first manager, Terrence,
whom I recently.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Yeah, he was so sweet.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
I cut up with Terrence this past year and he's
a sweetheart. He said that he had been having a
conversation with his friend who's like, you know, I think
I need I'm looking for like a little a young
kid like to develop Like this is exactly what like
what his parameters were for the next client that he
was looking for and then like I just walked down
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this hallway apparently, and was that that was it. His
friend's like, I got your girl, you know, and I
only did.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Really, he didn't know Terrence.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
This story is actually quite creepy, but we actually know
that Terrence.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
Is a good person.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
But I will have to say that, like the retelling,
there's part of it that seems like these days would
send up like red flags, being like, well, no, what
I'm saying is so you were good and he was
a great he's a great.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (19:50):
But I also feel like back then, the discovery out
and about is kind of like a.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
More traditional story.
Speaker 5 (19:56):
I think it's like, yeah, be weirder or like that,
like when I was a kid, just kind of like.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
We I mean, I just remember like the first you know,
two years of us because I only moved to California
when I was four, And we didn't move to be
an actor or anything. That's not. We moved because my
dad got a job out there. But you know, I
just remember being on the freeway a lot. I remember
sitting in my booster seat for a long time. I
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got really good at reading in the backseat of a
car without vomiting. And it's important to lots of auditions
and lots of polaroids and a few commercials. And then
I was, you know, at my family's house and Rancho Cucamonga,
which is where I lived or in the first you
had to hear. So I didn't drive, girl, I didn't
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drive until I was eighteen, really, but I rode a lot.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
So my grandparents, I remember they like helped us pay
for my sag dues the first year when I had
to join set, you know, and it was eligible, like
you know, it was exciting, right, and and what I
didn't really know a whole lot about it. And I'm like, yeah,
you show it got picked up, and I'm like, right,
what's that?
Speaker 4 (21:13):
You know?
Speaker 1 (21:14):
I remember shooting the pilot and those slippers. They had
these slippers that I would wear all the time, and
they made them like look really disgustingly dirty on purpose.
And I remember us jumping around in circles holding hands
by that bannis like there was a staircase nearby where
we were, and and then my mom was like, you know,
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you could do the pilot, but you never know that
if it's if it's going to get picked up. Most
of them don't get picked up, and I'm like, okay,
is very true. And then the job and it gets
picked up, and then it's like the phone call every years.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
Picked up again and again.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
Do you remember where you were when you found out
the pilot went?
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (21:51):
Do you remember that moment.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
The kitchen next to our kitchen phone of the house
phone the house. It was by the way, there was
a two hour drop commute each direction to Santa Monica
to Santa Monica. Yeah, is that's where we got a
lot of time. Ten.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
I actually don't remember finding out that we were picked up.
Speaker 6 (22:16):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
I don't have that.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
Man.
Speaker 5 (22:18):
I remember, I remember we were we were about to
leave the house. I mean, I I don't remember much
about the context of it, but I just remember like
my family was like trying to get out of the house,
you know, which is always a process with all of
us and all the kids and like, and then the
phone rang, everything stopped. My parents found out, and then
it turned into like, did any.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Of your others your siblings audition because Chandler did some
auditions as well. He broke his arm in one audition
in an audition.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
How do you do that?
Speaker 1 (22:50):
When we were like young. We would do this thing
or someone would pick us up and then we would
flip back upside down. And my for youal brother does
that to the man he's like testing with in the
audition and the guy dropped it. He broke his arm that.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
I don't think I ever had an injury in an audition.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
He didn't really enjoy auditions very much.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
That's probably why he didn't.
Speaker 4 (23:15):
Not a great experience.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
I don't remember if any of your siblings did it.
Speaker 5 (23:19):
Yeah, all my brothers and sisters like tried it out
for a little while. My sister Michelle did a movie
with uh with Mirasovino and Michael Imperiali back in the
Any film called Sweet Nothing, and she played the obviously
her and I think she had a brother. There was
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two little kids, and there was a sequence in the
film where I think it was Michael Imperiali like comes in,
he comes slamming through the house and breaking stuff and
yelling and whatever.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
And they didn't.
Speaker 5 (23:51):
Tell, you know, they wanted to get the kids reactions
to it kind of organically, which they certainly did.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
My sister flipped out.
Speaker 5 (24:00):
And then she was like scared of Michael after that,
and like didn't really understand, and and then and and
after that, I don't.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
Think she wanted to do it anymore.
Speaker 5 (24:11):
Liked she just kind of, like all of my brothers
and sisters did it for a little while and kind
of didn't really attached to it in the way that
I did. And I kind of went as far as
I did in this business because I would go out
on a ton of auditions and I'd go home and
I'd be like great to play my Nintendo and I
would out of sight, out of mind, like I was
done with the auditions.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
I didn't care, So I just moved on.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
You know, if it's not that important to you, it's
much easier. It's when you make when something is all
the everything you know that you are about, then definitely.
But I also love anxiety.
Speaker 5 (24:46):
I had a certain amount of success each year. Every
now and then something came through and I would get
to be on a set, and being on set for
me was like the best, Like that to me was
the best.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
I loved being.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
I still love Being's my most commonable place to be.
It's like I know what's expected to be, what to do,
where to stand, how to be.
Speaker 5 (25:04):
It's just like yeah, and you feel like you're contributing
and you're and you have a job to do and
you feel important to.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Know how to do it.
Speaker 4 (25:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
I think also my mom used to say that when
I was auditioning. She always used to say, like, your
turn will come. So I always remembered like when all
of my friends would like get because we'd always be
the same people. I was like Scarlett Johanson, Natalie Portman,
like all these people I'd go up against and I'd
be like, Okay, well they get it, like you know,
And so I knew my time was coming. And I think,
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you know, I also knew that's also part of like
why I fought so hard for Seventh Heaven, because that's
the first and only part that I like really was like, no,
I really think that this should be be it. And
I actually think I may have initially went out for
Mary and then switched to Lucy.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
I'm not sure.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
I think that that was part of.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
It, which is obviously Lucy is far better for that
because you guys obviously only read for because yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
But there were other things that you would read for
different ones.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
And I just remember reading I wasn't read I remember
reading the whole pilot too, and just.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
That was me.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
And we'll be right back.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
I just remember reading the pilot also being like kind
of horrified because it was like that period episode which
is like so uncomfortable and awkward and weird, but also
feeling like I'm going to dive for this, like I'm
really going to like go all in and like really
like like I just even remember talking to props about
like how the tampon had to fall out of my
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shorts pocket and how the pole had to be big
enough for the tampon to slip out, and like but
also being very like methodical, being.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
I did.
Speaker 4 (26:54):
I had a flash of this in my head.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
It had to fall out of my pocket, like you know,
because you know, also because this remember the music on
Seventh Heaven was just yeah, it was right on always
and so like you know, like yeah, but like, what
was like one of your favorite scenes in the pilot
or do you I never see it?
Speaker 1 (27:15):
I mean, I, like I said, I was really little,
and I just remember when you and Jesse and I
were holding hands and we had to jump up and
down around it a cirt.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
That's in the credit opening credits.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
And I remember those really those big giant slippers that
I was wearing for like many you were wearing the
overalls and the overalls. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
Wait, actually I have some.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
Pictures and wait, let me, I think I have a
happy Oh David, that's you, and I.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
Remember shooting, like we took a bunch of pictures outside
in the backyard of that house.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
Wait, you guys, look at that. Now, this is just
classic us.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
Yeah, look at that.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
Look at that?
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Were a lot of denim, you did, everybody? It was
the Canadian toxedo.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
This is also, by the way, I found these are
straight out of my scrap books, because remember I had
all my scrap books reliving all these pictures from the pilot,
and I think actually these were all the ones for
us getting our photo shoots, for like to try.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
To get all of our smile look.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
At okay, look at just One of my favorite things too,
is like we worked back in the day when they
would say rolling and that's because it actually was rolling.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
And when we had to say cut check.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
The gate because there were gates, Like everything wasn't digital
like we we really.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
Had, you had to check the bag.
Speaker 5 (28:46):
We grew up, yeah, taking polaroids every day of our
for continuity, and it was very analog.
Speaker 4 (28:53):
It was very analog time, and it was.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
Look at you in there's you and very oh my
god with that hair.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
My mom's here is pretty cool on this too. We've
got you out of this car, Eric car And did
they crash it or something?
Speaker 3 (29:11):
And I think no, I think no, Jesse and I
did it. I think Jesse and I crashed.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
But remember Sam Wiseman, our first director, he always used
to say energy, energy, energy, energy, and then we had
to do jumping jacks, ten jumping jacks before every scene
or actually before every take.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Every like don holding my feet to the ground. So
I didn't we have a lot of frame.
Speaker 5 (29:42):
Every episode of TV, directors come in and rotate, and
eventually what happens is you get your kind of favorite
directors come back and you you a mass like a
set of directors that will then rotate in this in
the style kind of uh streamlines. But in the beginning,
you never know what you're gonna get with a bunch
(30:05):
of rotating directors. So that I remember, especially in the
first season, we stylistically with the directors.
Speaker 4 (30:11):
It was kind of all over the place.
Speaker 5 (30:13):
Yeah, yeah, and the high energy stuff always felt strange
because we we were a family show.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
We were a drama. Yeah it wasn't.
Speaker 5 (30:23):
I mean, I guess it was kind of melodramatic, but
like we didn't have like sitcom energy, Like that was
not the vibe. The director was in charge. You'd always
have to kind of follow the leader in that way.
Speaker 4 (30:35):
And so like.
Speaker 5 (30:36):
Playing that game with all the different directors was really
funny in the beginning.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
And for everyone who's listening and you want to see
some of these pictures, we will absolutely be posting some
of this magic.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
And you also might see.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Some of my great scrap booking skills and lots of
stickers because I require apparently a lot of sticks.
Speaker 4 (30:57):
Your scrap booking has some great nineties colored still have.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
Some have the pink, blue and yellows a standard nineties,
some orange and I have.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
And apparently you hit it out of the park. And
you are a part of my Bev's Buds section. Let's
see with Mac and David, you are my Bev's buds.
And then do you remember the honey wagons because of course, because.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
You know, a lot of people could cure the ratty slippers.
I was talking.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
I know I remember that because you know what a
lot of people used to think like it was very
like on set you've like really made it and you
have all these beautiful light trailers.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
That is not the situation.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
We were most of my career wagons and honey wagons.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
For for the audience to understand what a honey wagon is.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
It's basically like a glorified closet with a toilet inside it.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
It's like literally to really sit down. Actually the bench
is just just wide enough to be slightly uncomfortable for
the human behind.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
Yes, and so I remember Jesse and I were right
next to each other.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
So we would open up our honeywagon to make it
fail bigger, right, we would always there was usually.
Speaker 5 (32:07):
A honey wagon is just a big trailer truck with
like eight or nine doors, right, so little hallways going
down the side of the truck and each one, you know,
as you have rotating actors coming in and out, everyone
would kind of get one and then they rotate them
for for new actors as they come and go.
Speaker 4 (32:25):
But in the beginning, that's we all had honey wagons, Like.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
You know, then you get a half banger, but that's.
Speaker 5 (32:32):
Trailer getting get into the half banger though, that felt
like we made that was like we had a nice trailer.
Speaker 4 (32:40):
Oh I don't her.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
You know, she's also a whole full trailer.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
That was a while. That took us a while.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
It took us a while, but eventually we each had
a trailer. I remember look at.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
Us sitting in front of the furnace of my trailer.
I used to do that. Get the burrito my favorite.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
My favorite for catering was like a blt. I had
a belt.
Speaker 4 (33:04):
Every morning.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
I got the same thing every day too. Every morning
six months, I diat the same thing every day for breakfast,
and then I would switch and eat something else for
six months straight.
Speaker 5 (33:12):
The best part of sets, by the way, is the
fact that you have catering and you can eat, Like
if your cater is really cool, then you can have whatever.
Speaker 4 (33:21):
You'd like, Like if the cater loves you, they'll make
you whatever you want.
Speaker 5 (33:25):
And one in a ligio ligion one they were the
heroes awesome, and I just remember just being like, you
just have whatever you want for breakfast and make me
pancakes every day.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
My favorite is like they would have it ready for
me three morning, like I never even had to order.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
Because they knew. Like one, I was quite predictable and
so they always had it.
Speaker 5 (33:45):
I think most of us all settled into like our
favorite breakfast.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
Yeah, what were your top three breakfast?
Speaker 3 (33:51):
I was the same thing I had every morning.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
Well, David, pancakes.
Speaker 4 (33:56):
It was pancakes. Usually if I was feeling fancy, it
was it was pancakes.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
So like a breakfast burrito, mine was a breakfast burrito
with turkey, mushrooms, ham, and cheese, or an English muffin
sandwichh with ham, eggs and cheese. Or the other third
option was scrambled eggs with turkey and toast. I just
rotate between those because they didn't know what you because
I make the switch to one for a season, got it,
(34:24):
and then switched to the other one. It was hard
that the day where you switched breakfasts, It's like switching
time zone.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
Like, so were you guys ever, Like, let's go back
to the pilot.
Speaker 4 (34:37):
I mean we.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
So back to the pilot.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
You know, I don't really remember necessarily being nervous, or
if I was nervous, it was like when I got home,
but like being on set, I just remember like I
always stepped up and felt like this was where I belonged,
and like it felt like home.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
Always felt that was safe, my.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
Favorite place to be and it was like where I
was comfortable and just knowing what's expected of you and
how you know that's yeah, I.
Speaker 4 (35:08):
Always felt super comfortable and set, very nervous.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
Almost nice and supportive. Like what's not? So like it
was great?
Speaker 3 (35:16):
I know.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
I think it's again we had such a unique experience
because it wasn't the norm to have a set that
was so warm, welcoming and where we truly were all
there for each other and like.
Speaker 5 (35:31):
We're I mean, it was a kid friendly set. There
were so many of us, and so I think in
a way you kind of keep set drama away from
the kids like it has you know.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
Like, so so there was there.
Speaker 5 (35:45):
I'm sure there was set drama that was happening around
us and and it just didn't have nothing to do
with us, and that was fine, you know, Like but
from my perspective, it was always friendly and fun and
so much of the crew was like was like family
to us and would hang out.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
And it was a young crew I feel like too,
right was it not sort of like I remember.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
Well, I think there was definitely those that were more
experienced that definitely like had been around for a long time,
and then there were there were definitely younger.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
I felt like that I could play with No, maybe
it was only me thinking I was playing and they
were just like, you know, maybe it was pestering.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
I also remember you looking straight into the camera thinking
that they wouldn't notice.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
I also would cross my eyes notice that. I would like, yeah,
this like weird eye trick. And I also know what
could notice.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
Yeah, And then you also would. You didn't like to
be straight on your mark. So I remember don literally
standing under and then they started doing was like and
then I also remember sandbags. We had to sandbag you too,
like put the sandbags around you feet.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
Sports all the time because I would say, it's like,
you know, like this.
Speaker 3 (37:04):
I do remember that.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
And I had to sit on ferny pads a lot too.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
I also remember I used to.
Speaker 5 (37:11):
Have a little girl sports are Yeah, I mean, what.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
Were they thinking trying to put a five year old
a skirt? It's probably the fault mine. And I also
I do.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
Remember that Jesse and I used to have our own
battles though, too, because we were so close in age
and so entirely different affections. I mean, like a millisecond,
we thought Barry was hot until like then we got
to know him just a mill a millisecond.
Speaker 4 (37:43):
Any longer than that we got to Newberry, it.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
Was like, no, you're not hot anymore. You're just Berry.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
Which, which, by the way, today is today is actually
Barry's birthday?
Speaker 4 (37:53):
Is it?
Speaker 3 (37:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (37:54):
Today? Because I thought last week, no.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
Like today today, which actually I believe.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
Someone guy to know about Barry's personality.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
Happy birthday.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
There, you know, I'm just saying no, let me go
full circle on something back. Actually on the pilot it
was Barry's birthday also.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
Really, so wait, is this the anniversary of the pilot
being shot? Obviously?
Speaker 4 (38:19):
Yeah, I guess.
Speaker 3 (38:20):
Yeah, We're pretty That's why we're shooting this.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
That's why I'm shooting the podcast is because it's a
first anniversary of when we shot the pilot.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
And of Barrie's life and yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:32):
So many years ago, nineteen ninety.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
Six, baby, nineteen ninety six, ninety six, ninety six.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (38:42):
From what I remember shooting the pilot is that all
of my audition stuff was about the dog. All my
scenes in the pilot was talking to Stephen about how
that I was praying to God because I wanted a dog.
Speaker 4 (38:57):
Did you know God his dog spelled backwards? All of these.
Speaker 5 (39:00):
Things are where my moments in the pilot. And what's
funny about it. What I remember about it is that
I was the New York kid, and I was fresh
out of New York, so my New York accent was thick.
Speaker 4 (39:17):
And what many people might not.
Speaker 5 (39:21):
Remember about the nineties was that back in the nineties,
New York accents were pretty standard. They were like it
was normal for in films and in television shows for
people to have New York accents, and like it wasn't
a thing. It was just it was kind of American.
And then in the late nineties into the two thousands,
(39:43):
New York accents like kind of the California became neutral
American accent, and I had to learn to not sound
like I was fresh out of New York.
Speaker 4 (39:54):
But all of my lines were.
Speaker 5 (39:58):
About sing God for a dog, and I couldn't, like
for the life of me, figure out how to not
sound like that.
Speaker 4 (40:09):
And I remember the directors.
Speaker 5 (40:11):
Trying to help me and trying to help me, and
I remember them going to my mom and being like,
he keeps saying, dog, can you talk to him?
Speaker 4 (40:21):
And my mom looks at the ad and goes, what's
wrong with the way he says dog? And they were like,
oh no, and we'll be right back at some point.
Speaker 5 (40:36):
I remember in one scene and you've probably seen this,
I'm sure if we watched the pilot you can hear it,
because I had to say that I asked God for
a dog, which is easy to.
Speaker 4 (40:48):
Say now, but but I couldn't say ask that. I
asked you right, asked as right?
Speaker 5 (40:57):
And that that was the hardest. It was like the
biggest challenge I'd ever had on a set. And Stephen
was like, just say asked and I was like, I
can't say that, and He's like, you can, it'll be fine.
Speaker 4 (41:14):
So I did, and that's how I got through it.
Speaker 5 (41:16):
I said that I asked God, I asked God for
a dog, and I could manage to say dog, but
I couldn't say asked. And yeah, so we'll have to
read we'll have to see if.
Speaker 4 (41:31):
You can hear it.
Speaker 5 (41:33):
But but I specifically remember that, Like that was the
trick that like got me through, was that I had
to like say it a different thing to kind of
like squeeze it in there and get it, get it
past everybody.
Speaker 4 (41:46):
But yeah, that was.
Speaker 5 (41:47):
My struggle was that I still was had a very
thick New York accent and none of you guys did,
and so I had to hide it.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
You lose teeth like we had like the to get
a flip or not to get a flipper conversation.
Speaker 5 (42:02):
I went through that on Look, who's talking?
Speaker 4 (42:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (42:08):
I remember?
Speaker 6 (42:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (42:09):
And for all I lost my tooth right when we started.
Speaker 3 (42:13):
For all of those who are listening, I have a
great story for understand what a slipper is.
Speaker 1 (42:17):
So the flipper is a fake tooth that you can.
Speaker 4 (42:21):
It's a retainer with a teeth on it.
Speaker 2 (42:23):
Yeah, So that way you don't have on sightly gaps.
Speaker 5 (42:27):
Also uses your front teeth when your character doesn't.
Speaker 4 (42:33):
Then you get that. Then they put this in there
and they fill it in with a fake tooth.
Speaker 3 (42:38):
Oh wait, I think we found that. So let's let's
take a look.
Speaker 1 (42:43):
Does Grandma like dogs?
Speaker 5 (42:46):
Simon?
Speaker 4 (42:46):
What happened to the sea monkeys?
Speaker 3 (42:47):
We got?
Speaker 1 (42:47):
You remember the sea monkeys?
Speaker 4 (42:49):
This was definitely my audition scene.
Speaker 1 (42:51):
I see, uh.
Speaker 5 (42:52):
And what about the infarm they ran away?
Speaker 1 (42:55):
You dropped them?
Speaker 6 (42:56):
M hmm.
Speaker 1 (42:57):
Still and the goldfish?
Speaker 6 (42:59):
How much fish can eat dead?
Speaker 4 (43:02):
Simon? A dog is a lot harder to take care
of than all these other pets. And I'm just afraid
you're not responsible enough.
Speaker 6 (43:08):
But Dad, all that was a long long time ago.
Speaker 4 (43:10):
All that was in the last six months.
Speaker 1 (43:12):
Grown up.
Speaker 6 (43:13):
Now, I can take care of a dog.
Speaker 4 (43:15):
I swear, I don't swear.
Speaker 6 (43:19):
But what if a perfectly good dog that was out
wandering the streets on its own and could get killed anywhere,
anytime by anyone just happened to come into the yard.
Can we keep that dog? I mean, chances are you'd
have a better chance surviving here with us than out
in the streets.
Speaker 4 (43:36):
Dad, please, please, you're a pretty good negotiator, you know.
That's that was not the scene.
Speaker 1 (43:45):
But I did hear the like the the little bit
of a New York accent.
Speaker 5 (43:52):
I'm just I'm just I'm saying dog.
Speaker 1 (43:57):
Was like one word.
Speaker 2 (43:58):
You definitely said dog. But by the way, that's also
the cutest scene ever. And you are absolutely adorable.
Speaker 4 (44:04):
And it's just like, my hair looks bleached. That was
that was just my hair. God.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
I know, I think a lot of people didn't realize
like that you really that was like you.
Speaker 4 (44:15):
Yeah, I was that blonde. I was the blonde kid.
Speaker 3 (44:20):
And my banks really were that strong. My bank game.
That sounds terrible, That is I strike.
Speaker 1 (44:31):
Actually I just mysh.
Speaker 3 (44:38):
Insert foot in mouth. So I think.
Speaker 2 (44:47):
That this is a perfect spot for us to end
this episode, and I hope you guys really enjoyed it
and get ready.
Speaker 3 (44:53):
To come back to catch up with the camp Ins
on next week's episode. We're done indicate
Speaker 1 (45:06):
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