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August 19, 2024 43 mins

David, Bev and Mack compare where their personal characteristics end and where Simon, Lucy and Ruthie begin.  Our hosts also have fun dreaming up the present-day lives of their Camden counterparts, while sharing more personal behind the scenes stories from 7th Heaven.  Spoiler Alert: You aren't supposed to use tongue in TV kisses!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
David, do you want to do the leaden today?

Speaker 2 (00:02):
No?

Speaker 3 (00:06):
Ready, Mark, thank you. We used to do that all
the time.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
Set up Seana was like, do you remember to set up? Like?
I'm trying all right.

Speaker 1 (00:24):
As we all try to fix our posture.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
Like Gollham.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
Welcome up to Catching Up with the Camdens. I'm Beverly Mitchell.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
Did you say welcome up?

Speaker 1 (00:38):
Did I say welcome up? Okay, welcome back.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
Welcome up, welcome up. You know, I'm just getting my groove,
just helping you out. Thanks.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
I just had to think about what was happening in
my head right now and it's just a lot. Okay,
I'll go back.

Speaker 2 (00:59):
Mm hm.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
Welcome back to Catching Up with the Camdens.

Speaker 3 (01:02):
I'm Beverly Mitchell, I'm David Gallagher and I'm Kenzie Rossmith.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
And today's episode we are going to chat about how
our characters are, what similarities we have to our characters.

Speaker 3 (01:16):
And what differences with differences we have. So who wants
to start? David's like not, I can start, okay, So
I would say that Ruthy and I had quite a
few similarities and our writer Brenda was pretty cool about
sort of kind of adapting the characters to our individual

(01:40):
personalities a lot, or maybe because we spent so much
time playing them that our personalities adapted to the characters personalities.
I'm not quite sure which came first, but so Ruthie
and I, I think had quite a few things in common.
We both obviously really like to dance, and it might
have and attitude sometimes although I was a lot nicer

(02:02):
than Ruthie, I think, like, isn't like sweeter? Maybe maybe not?
Wait wait wait wait, I can't actually answer that, but
in my in my mind, I'm really nice.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
I thought Ruthie was pretty nice.

Speaker 3 (02:16):
Well maybe was she She was curious, so we're both
sort of curious and kind of no. But the obvious
similarities that we both are obsessed with riding horses and
horses in general. So that was really fun because on
more than one episode I got to bude horses and
I just loved that. And then on one episode my

(02:39):
actual stepsister in real life and stepdad got to be
on the episode because Brenda did an episode about cystic
fibrosis which was really neat, and my sister who had
CF got to play herself and even with the same name,
which was amazing. I think you know obviously what we think.

(03:01):
I really looked a lot of like too, yeah he's crazy, right,
yeah what happens?

Speaker 1 (03:07):
And I was like, what do you think, Like, like, well,
do you think like Ruthy's moothing style?

Speaker 3 (03:12):
It was very much well, yeah, I mean it definitely
is heavily influenced by like me being in the fittings
being like, can't I look sexy? But they would always
like tone it down, like the layers. But uh, you
know it's like every teenager plus like everyone was older

(03:32):
on the show. So I'm like, I want to wear
more makeup, but like that's every teenage girl wanting that.
But I looked really young too, so I did look
like twelve when I was like fifteen and anyways, but yeah,
I mean I think there were definitely a ton of
similarities and differences. Well yeah, so I started writing shortly

(03:58):
after I began We're King on the show my mom.
It was actually well, the first sport I tried was soccer,
and I was pitiful at it. Like I would just
watch this, it was in kindergarten. I would watch this like,
you know, flock of girls chased after this ball around
the field and I would just kind of like casually
walk in the direction.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
There isn't soccer every kids.

Speaker 3 (04:24):
Like, Yeah, my dad like was the red and I
was in it for the orange licenes. My brother actually
was even less interested. He would leave the field and
sit on the side picking flowers. So then my mom
put me in horseback writing lessons and I just stuck
with it from the moment I started when I was six,

(04:45):
and I'm still and infatuated with it. So yeah, Brenda
put Ruthie on some horses a couple of times and
it was the best. One episode, when I was riding
the horse, they had a camera in the grass, and
you know, they're prey animals and so something that's like

(05:06):
making the sound like a snake would make sort of
in the grass and frightening. You know, a horse, a
squirrel you know, can pop out of something and you
know you fall off and that's how you break your leg. Right,
So anyways, the horse spooked. I went sailing over the
horse's head and popped up as quickly as possible so

(05:27):
that they would let me do it again hopefully, And yeah,
I'm I'm good.

Speaker 1 (05:37):
But also like getting to be off campus basically too,
because like there wasn't very often that we were like
really on location. So like the fact that you went
to someplace that was like outside of Santa Monica where
there was like it was horse.

Speaker 3 (05:55):
Just you know, like exquisite Arabian farm. I mean it
was the cleanest horse facility I have ever been to.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
They also had that bad habit of being really efficient
and like anytime we would need a location that we
would use often they would just like after a while
just become a building on the set instead. So like
we had we had the bar that we are on
our b stage. You remember, we had the big bar
where we would have our like Christmas parties in a

(06:22):
pool hall. We had that we had. Eventually they built
the promenade, so we had the whole promenade with the
restaurant in the theater and all this stuff, and then
like you know, out of nowhere, one season we just
spent like every episode we were just at the promenade.

Speaker 3 (06:37):
What about the high school and the hospital being the
same hallway. Oh yeah, by the end of like eleven seasons,
the paint on those walls was like so big thick.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
So if we were doing the school, they had a
set of hallways in the back of our stage that
were just kind of indiscriminate hallway sections. And when we
were shooting the school, they would roll in the lockers
and then they would paint it. Was it like a yellow,
And then when they would need the hospital, they would
just roll out the lockers and they'd paint it. Was

(07:11):
it blue? I think, yeah it was. It was really clever, honestly,
But but then like was less fun because we didn't
get to go anywhere. The one place that they never
tried to bring onto the studio was our church. Yeah,
so we were always at the well. I mean they

(07:32):
could have they could have what they could have figured
it out, they could have converted the pool hall.

Speaker 3 (07:38):
Okay, wait.

Speaker 1 (07:41):
Back on track, Okay, so I'll go next. I would say,
I think I'm a lot more like Lucy than I
would honestly like to admit. But you know, we're in
our honest phase right here, so I will honestly say that, like, yes,
Lucy cried a lot. I didn't think I cried as much.
Jesse has informed me I do. So you know, that's

(08:01):
the things I'm learning. And you know, Lucy was kind
of like a know it all. I don't like to
think of myself as a know it all as much
as I'm like very much, I own my only childness
about myself. So I like to say that I like
to take charge and I.

Speaker 2 (08:22):
Like to you know, really, my kid's an only child.
She knows a lot. Yeah, so yeah, she will let
you go.

Speaker 1 (08:30):
And I mean I think I think Lucy was far
more like we already established this Lucy kissed farm. Like
I in my own personal life never even comes close
to Lucy's number, Like I have a Lucy number like
for kissing people, and then I have like my number

(08:50):
and Lucy. Yeah, so that is like there's like a
very big difference, like Lucy like had she had game.
I beverly has zero game for sure, Like did you
know that very Did I ever tell you guys a
story that the very first time that like Michael came
over and I was so excited. I liked him so much,

(09:12):
and then I put on seventh It was actually in
that chair like right here, I put on seventh Heaven
because I thought.

Speaker 2 (09:21):
It was cover. I don't know, it's like you're numbers.

Speaker 1 (09:28):
I was talking about how I had no game. Let
me minish the story and you'll realize nothing happened. I
made I put on Seventh Heaven because I wanted to
impress him, and he thought I was the strangest and
he was like, Okay, what is this supposed to be?
And I'm like, it means that I'm cool, and he's like,
you'll see about that.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
So yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
So basically, yeah, Bev had no game. Lucy was like
she was something special. But I do have to say
it was kind of hard because a lot of times,
like you said, Brenda knew us so well and kind
of like watched us grow, and so she would integrate
things about us personally into our character.

Speaker 3 (10:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
I also what one of the best things about Brenda
and the writing team was also that when our characters
were so well interchangeable that like not interchangeable, sorry, intertwined
between our lives, that like when I would read my
lines like I could, they were so easy to memorize. Yeah,

(10:35):
I knew exactly what I was supposed to say. I
knew exactly the cadence and the need to come out like.

Speaker 3 (10:39):
So it was very easy.

Speaker 1 (10:43):
It was totally like a second skin. Even when I
went on Too Secret Life with the American Teenager and
did that show, because it was Brenda. It was also
another one that was like so easy and it was
our career.

Speaker 3 (10:54):
You were like lucky too that the sides that you
got the night before pretty much were the size of
the revisions, you know, happening at the eleventh hour, which
I hear is a thing.

Speaker 1 (11:07):
Yeah, there's oftentimes and that that happens. And there's a question,
did you learn your kissing technique from filming or real life?
I don't think I have a kissing technique. We'll be
right back, Okay, So where were we kissing Other than
the frog and my throat?

Speaker 2 (11:27):
We were going over how they were good at integrating
pieces of our personalities into the characters, which made them
kind of more similar to us. And for me at least,
I feel like when I think about how I'm like Simon,
my mind goes to those things, like it goes to

(11:47):
the time where like, for a long time, I really
wanted to play guitar, and that was like an obsession
of mine when I was a teenager. And when I
finally started learning how to play guitar, at a certain point,
they put a guitar in Simon's hands and I was
like excited to have one on set, but also just
to feel like I could play guitar well enough that

(12:09):
they'd let me do it on TV, which is not
the case. But I also think of like silly, superficial things,
like when I really wanted to get my ear pierced,
which was a huge deal. And of course it made
no sense to me why it was such a big deal,
because all of my friends had their ears pierced, and

(12:31):
like it wasn't it was a very common thing, and
it was of course a massive deal, and.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
Well, anything changing our appearance was such.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
I did not appreciate it at the time, but then,
of course, so so my dad took me to get
my ear pierced, and I put two piercings in my
left ear and then my ear was pierced, and I
was like, wow, just take them out, and they were
like yeah, but we could see that your ear is
pierced now. So they had to integrate it into an

(13:01):
episode to turn into an entire episode, and they had
Steve from Wardrobe was the guy who pierced my ear
on the show.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
Yeah, Steve was he wearing a kilt in.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
The ut kill. I think they let I think they
let Steve be Steve, but I can't remember if he
was wearing his Utila killed once on the show That
kills Like. I mean, but they definitely, I think they
definitely picked Steve because Steve had that kind of like
alternative appearance, going had the long hair, he had the takings.

(13:36):
They were like, you look like also, I don't think.

Speaker 1 (13:40):
You could have cast it better.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
No, it was, it was, and it was, and it was.
It made it more fun that it was, you know,
an in house thing we did, you know. But I
remember when they when they went to my dad and
they were like, oh, he wants to pierce his year.
Can you talk about with him? What about that? But
my dad was like, what do you mean? And my
dad has his left ear piers as well, so they
were just like, oh, never mind. I didn't know, Like

(14:05):
they couldn't get to me that way, so they just
kind of gave in and and Simon got his ear piers,
you know. But yeah, I mean, other than that, Simon
was definitely better with money than I am. He is.

Speaker 1 (14:18):
Simon.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
He was the bank and I am not a bank.

Speaker 1 (14:26):
But yeah, wait, and did you did you have your
first kiss on the show?

Speaker 2 (14:31):
I did?

Speaker 3 (14:32):
I did, so be I mean, you had a ton
of a lot of kisses on the show. Did you
learn anything about your kissing technique from from?

Speaker 2 (14:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (14:40):
That I had none. I also just remember just being
like really awkward and really uncomfortable because I didn't, like,
you know, there's obviously rules about like kissing on camera,
like you don't use tongue, which I never did. Did
anybody else ever like do that to you? Because it
definitely happened and it scared the ship. I think I
bit them. I'm not going to say who he was.

Speaker 3 (15:02):
I was just getting into George. I mean, I know
someone who supposedly I never had that. I didn't really.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
I mean, it was just I just remember it just
was never. It was never.

Speaker 3 (15:20):
You didn't know because like I was like seventeen.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
Might have got there at the very end. It would
have been late in again.

Speaker 1 (15:27):
And many it was like, I mean I didn't really
have to I had a kid. My first wait, was
it Jimmy Moon or was.

Speaker 3 (15:34):
It I had so many? Had Ruthy and Martin hooked up,
I might have used but Tyler, Tyler, I know it's.

Speaker 2 (15:45):
Different from my from a guy's perspective, like having so
it's I don't know how to be delicate about talking
about this stuff. But being a boy on set having
girls guest star and and being like romantically involved with
Simon for an episode or two or whatever, and doing

(16:07):
makeouts or kisses and stuff. I mean sometimes it was
like makeout sessions, you know what I mean, It was
always more intense.

Speaker 1 (16:16):
Than those were the most awkward.

Speaker 2 (16:18):
And then like so for me, like I always felt
really awkward for the girls because there, this isn't their crew,
this isn't their set, Like they don't They're in there
and they have to kind of be in that vulnerables
vulnerable spot with me. So I always was like I
let the girl lead that experience. So if however she

(16:42):
kissed me, we went with that, you know what I mean,
Like I didn't, I never tried to.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
That's very that is much appreciated having.

Speaker 2 (16:51):
Yeah, but it's but you know because other.

Speaker 1 (16:53):
Times where I literally felt like I was being eaten.

Speaker 2 (16:55):
More like I was being alive, and I was like,
that's that's what we're doing. I guess, I don't know,
you know, Like.

Speaker 3 (17:05):
I was never like even we're like a lot of times,
like as whenever you have guest stars, you want to
just make the guest star feel more comfortable. Yeah, whatever
it takes to support that. I found their performance like
by doing Like, I feel like all of my best
performances were off camera.

Speaker 1 (17:22):
Because I've been trying that often.

Speaker 3 (17:25):
Yeah, like you just really want to be supportive or whatever.

Speaker 2 (17:29):
Yeah, especially because we did a lot of the emotional,
uh like emotion heavy emotional content and when in those scenes,
I always felt really bad when we had an emotionally
heavy scene and then they were like, Okay, great, we're
going into coverage. David go to school yeah, and then
and I'd be like, oh, I'm sorry, you know, like
we'd be sent off to go do schooling and then

(17:52):
you know, Barry or whoever it was, or get stuck
with everyone else. He says, But it's true though.

Speaker 1 (17:58):
His whole experience was was acting to sea stands.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
To sea stands, Yeah, which is I remember him doing it.
I do too, And I remember them taking our tape
colors for our marks and then marking our tape colors.
And he would talk to Orange.

Speaker 3 (18:12):
Yes, me, and you were late blue?

Speaker 2 (18:14):
Was I light blue? I think?

Speaker 3 (18:15):
So?

Speaker 2 (18:16):
I don't remember change. I keep thinking I was orange,
I was orange, You were orange?

Speaker 3 (18:22):
It was orange?

Speaker 2 (18:22):
You were Stephen was green. There were two.

Speaker 3 (18:25):
Shades of orange. We had a like a dago orange.
There was a baby blue.

Speaker 2 (18:31):
I think I buy that.

Speaker 3 (18:33):
I think I wanted that color, but we didn't get
to choose our colors.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
Yeah, and they were weird about less changing color. I mean,
it's all the kids on set were like, I want this,
I want to I was white.

Speaker 1 (18:45):
I want to say I was like white.

Speaker 2 (18:46):
I think you were white.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
You know what, Now it's just like that just bad white,
so boring, And.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
Now I feel like that meant something.

Speaker 1 (18:57):
Did that mean something that they gave me whine?

Speaker 2 (18:59):
I still think so, But now I feel like maybe.

Speaker 1 (19:03):
I don't know, he's colorful.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
Lot of everybody the least color they gave me.

Speaker 1 (19:09):
Like white, I don't know who gave me white.

Speaker 3 (19:11):
White is all of the colors.

Speaker 1 (19:14):
Well, thank you, thank you for turning that around. I'm
still feeling a bit broken, but I can no I think,
you know. I think one of the most magical things
about our set too, is, just like you said, Mac,
is like as we were. We worked so hard when
people came on to like make sure that they felt
comfortable included, Like we like rolled out the red carpet

(19:37):
for everyone and actually will be really fun is in
future episodes we will have some guests that can also
like share their experience.

Speaker 2 (19:47):
I hope.

Speaker 1 (19:50):
You know what that could happen. I have had the
experience so where recently I've run up to people and
they're like, I innroduce myself. They're like, yeah, we like
we work together, and I'm like, oh, like on what
I like the like seventh eve and I'm like, oh,

(20:11):
no way, it's been so long. So yeah, I definitely
have to say that it's good to know that we
were memorable. Sad to know that, like we couldn't remember everybody.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
Because we share like two hundred episodes.

Speaker 1 (20:23):
Yeah, I mean you did two hundred and forty three episodes.

Speaker 2 (20:26):
I am claiming all of them, and I'm just shy
of two hundred and you guys, I mean a lot.
That's that is a metric ton of television.

Speaker 1 (20:35):
I'm actually kind of mad that we didn't do seven
more episodes just so we could hit two fifty.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
You would have hit fifty, I would.

Speaker 1 (20:43):
Well then I need I would have had I would
have had.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
Damn slacker so close.

Speaker 1 (20:52):
Well, you know what you wanted to get an eduation?
Where do you think having okay, focus people focus, Okay,
having built these characters, what do you think where do
you think they would land now? Like as like a
disdand age.

Speaker 3 (21:12):
I think Ruthie would be living in a castle in Scotland.

Speaker 1 (21:16):
That is not where I was going to go with
that one.

Speaker 2 (21:18):
Well, that's cool.

Speaker 3 (21:21):
Since we're riding it, like, you know, since I'm coming
up with it. Yeah, a castle in Scotland with like
with kids, Yeah, a few kids maybe maybe like some
adopted kids. Lots of horses, and then sort of a
herd of canines.

Speaker 1 (21:37):
That's that tracks.

Speaker 3 (21:39):
Yeah, and she might ride a motorcycle.

Speaker 1 (21:42):
Oh my gosh, with a motorcycle. Would she have a license?

Speaker 3 (21:46):
Probably not, because then she's just like you.

Speaker 2 (21:49):
Yeah, Cimon would be an entrepreneur. I think that he
was always kind of set on that path as a character.
He was he was the bank and then they they
said which is I always thought it was strange that
because another thing that they did that was kind of,
you know, meant to parallel my life was that they

(22:11):
sent him to film school when I went to film school.
And then we did that goodbye episode, that like recap episode.
But I always thought I was like why I go
to film school. It's not like a Simon's business Yeah,
like it doesn't. It seemed out of character for Simon
to do that, and I felt like they did that
like for me somehow, but I was like I didn't

(22:31):
feel right, you know, like I think Simon should have
went to business school and and did you know, and
been an entrepreneur because I feel like today that's where
tell me.

Speaker 3 (22:40):
Yeah, yeah, something like Simon would be Elon Musk.

Speaker 1 (22:44):
I mean Simon. Yeah, I think he went around in space.

Speaker 2 (22:49):
I would have made it to the moon.

Speaker 3 (22:51):
You would at least have like started PayPal maybe or
something like that.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
That's true, that the one. Yeah, and we'll be right back.

Speaker 1 (23:01):
So what exactly would Ruthie be doing for her work
in Scotland in her castle?

Speaker 3 (23:06):
I mean, I definitely think that she would own a
Scotch distillory is also, yeah, I can see that she has.
She'd have an amazing palette for it and really be
able to appreciate.

Speaker 1 (23:18):
You'd be a connoisseur of said Scotch yep, exactly.

Speaker 3 (23:23):
And she talks cigars and play golf all that stuff.

Speaker 1 (23:28):
Play golf, that's that would I mean?

Speaker 2 (23:31):
But you are.

Speaker 3 (23:34):
Yeah, I think I think that's that tracks basically, you
know she'd make her own cured meats and and Jesus.

Speaker 1 (23:43):
You have just like I mean, she has a very
full and busy life.

Speaker 3 (23:47):
She does with her Yeah, she's also a.

Speaker 2 (23:49):
Bit batty too, and simon once in a while. Yeah.
At the fort, I think I think for I didn't
know you said it's a castle.

Speaker 3 (24:01):
It's a castle. It's not like a formally abandoned castle.

Speaker 1 (24:06):
It's just something I need to know. Will this castle
have hot water? Like this house?

Speaker 3 (24:12):
I don't really need hot water as long as I
have fire shower.

Speaker 1 (24:19):
For all, for all of our audience.

Speaker 2 (24:21):
I think you just need to in a giant pot
on a fire with a giant brush.

Speaker 1 (24:27):
We're good for our listeners here. Mac has just really
been at one with the with some cold water here
and had to.

Speaker 3 (24:38):
Yeah, I had to really refreshing showers, but I was
kind of liked wash. Okay, that works.

Speaker 2 (24:46):
Gotta make it click, just got to make it click.

Speaker 3 (24:48):
I almost use dish the first time because it was
so told dish in the shower.

Speaker 1 (24:56):
We were always for cleaning.

Speaker 3 (24:58):
Maybe it soap is soap, right?

Speaker 2 (25:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (25:03):
We actually I had like a really nice eighteen hundred
style bath with like the boiling water, and I sat
in the basin and I pretended it was somebody else,
like sponging.

Speaker 1 (25:14):
All Right, we're gonna we're gonna go a different direction
on this one anyway, So I guess I would say you.

Speaker 3 (25:20):
Shaved it was it was warm enough.

Speaker 2 (25:24):
I love Max like medieval fantasy tangent. I think we
should stay there.

Speaker 1 (25:30):
I mean it's definitely better.

Speaker 3 (25:32):
Well, Scotland because Ruthie actually went to Scotland, did she. Yeah,
that's why she wasn't in a few of the episodes
on the last season, because Ruthy was in Scotland.

Speaker 1 (25:42):
Really well, yeah, I don't know that I read all
of it.

Speaker 3 (25:46):
That justumb through for Lucy.

Speaker 2 (25:49):
Lucy, I did you know what it was?

Speaker 1 (25:53):
I think we all at one point started just being like,
we're not in this scene, let's keep going, Oh, here
we are.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
It was. It was terrible when we started. Once we
started driving ourselves to work, that really killed my learning.
The drive in was that was that was like money
time to learn learn?

Speaker 3 (26:14):
Wait, how did you learn lines while you were driving?

Speaker 2 (26:17):
That's what you know what I'm saying. Once I started
driving myself, and then you know, I had to get
even faster.

Speaker 3 (26:23):
The night before, like so the act of sleeping on it,
it would take me four times as long. If I
learned my lines in the morning of then if I
just don and I had an appointment every day, I
know her phone number is still and we'd go over
run lines on the phone, and then I sleep on
and it's cements and sing works.

Speaker 2 (26:42):
It really does.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
That did not work for me. I learned my lines
every morning in the makeup chair, and they were not
fully in there.

Speaker 2 (26:52):
No, I would always get it. I wasn't focused enough
to do it the night before. I was like, off work,
now it's personal time. And then go out and I
try to hang out and spend time with my friends,
my family and whatever, and crash out late, get up early,
get to work.

Speaker 3 (27:09):
And I didn't really have like personal freedom after I
left works.

Speaker 1 (27:14):
They're also still a teenager. Okay, Well, I think if
I had to say where Lucy would be today, I mean,
obviously she has a lot of kids. I'm not sure
how many we ended with on the show. I think
I was up to didn't you have? I had twins,
and then I had there was a miscarriage at some point,

(27:35):
and then I think I had another one.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
I don't remember.

Speaker 1 (27:38):
There's there's a lot of kids, but I you know,
I don't think, yeah, I don't think that I.

Speaker 3 (27:44):
Just had a big tattoo, a big tramp stamp.

Speaker 1 (27:47):
Oh yeah, t bone. I don't think that Lucy and
Kevin would still be together, though, but that might just
be selfishly myself. I mean, George as lovely as a friend,
I would definitely not say that he is marriage material,
even though Kevin the Kevin, you know, I really think

(28:11):
Kevin was a cop, but I also feel like he
was always like more suited for yeah, yeah, for for
Rachel Blanchard. Him and Roxanne always had a thing.

Speaker 3 (28:24):
I'd have to like. But I watched that dynamic with
a more adult perspective.

Speaker 1 (28:29):
I don't know that we should. But I also think
that I think I think Lucy would be still in
some kind of form of ministry because I think she
definitely was like that was that was her path. But
I think, like, I think it'd be something cool to
like her to be in the military and her to
like be a chaplain or something. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (28:51):
Lucy likes to help people exactly. I think the ministry
thing really fits yes, and she had a lot of energy.

Speaker 1 (29:01):
She did, she talked a lot.

Speaker 3 (29:04):
Well, have you read sermon pages.

Speaker 2 (29:08):
I think the betting odds on which one of the
Camden kids would take up the ministry would have been
not would have been for you?

Speaker 1 (29:15):
Well, I mean I think I TechEd I was truly
a pastor at the end of the show.

Speaker 2 (29:19):
No, I know, but I think that was definitely the
like it was always.

Speaker 1 (29:23):
It was always the path for her. And I think
I don't know, I would hope that she would live
somewhere exotic, but she and would have left Glen Oak,
our fictional Glen Oak.

Speaker 3 (29:34):
Everybody, everybody, I think.

Speaker 1 (29:36):
That would be great, But I remember everybody always wanted
to know where is Glen Oak. Glen Oak did not exist.
It's kind of like, but I always thought of it
kind of as like Pasadena.

Speaker 3 (29:49):
Didn't we establish it.

Speaker 2 (29:50):
It was in California, though it was eventually we did.
I think it was the palm trees that kind of
in the background, but initially it wasn't said. It was
supposed to be kind of anywhere America. Yeah, and then
and then eventually it slowly became more and more like Springfield,

(30:12):
slowly became more and more Cali.

Speaker 1 (30:13):
I also think that they didn't really expect us to
go that long, so they didn't think they were going
to have to establish where we really were.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
No, that's true.

Speaker 3 (30:20):
Yeah, I mean yeah, no, one, we didn't expect that.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
I know. No, we were we were the little show
that could. We always got picked up. We always had
another season, which everyone was always convinced that it was
going to be that this was it, that they were
tired of us and we were done, and they weren't.

Speaker 1 (30:41):
Yeah, I mean I think what what was also crazy
is I remember just being like at all the WB
like parties and stuff, and like we were kind of
just like the Black Sheep like but.

Speaker 3 (30:53):
Like they were always nice.

Speaker 1 (30:55):
Everybody was always.

Speaker 3 (30:56):
Nice, like the sexiest shown. They were like no happy that,
you know, to promote we were always we were the
little odd duck.

Speaker 2 (31:05):
I tried though, they they tried to get us in
that lane. That's that's where all the all the dating
revolving door came from. From what I thought, I was like, Oh,
they're trying to like, well it became up. You know,
they're trying to put us in line with their other
shows a little more. Once we were all teenagers. They

(31:26):
definitely tried.

Speaker 3 (31:28):
Maybe if Rudy had kissed more people, we would have
been like twenty one season.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
It was just like we dropped the ball I did.

Speaker 3 (31:35):
It was supposed to be like the teenage drama you
could have been, Oh yeah, because we were all like
grown up and it was well, that's why we always
had somebody guest stars coming on.

Speaker 1 (31:48):
We were like trying to like bring in the next
round of.

Speaker 3 (31:53):
We'd be like season by now or something.

Speaker 2 (31:57):
I know. It was so like supernatural.

Speaker 1 (32:02):
I mean, you know what's crazy, though, is the Yadrick
girls are like I think graduating. They might be in
college now or they're they're that's They're like, how crazy
is that? And they were like eighty bitty bitty babies
when they started, and like Lucy's like I would have
like a full blown eighteen nineteen year old.

Speaker 3 (32:24):
Airplane.

Speaker 2 (32:25):
It's just like old things stay with us and be
right back.

Speaker 1 (32:33):
What were we talking about? Oh yes, the kids, the
Yadrick twins were actually my little girls on the show,
and I just got there. Yeah, they're they're all grown up,
which is just weird. I don't feel also, by the way,
I still don't feel old enough like to have kids
to yes, I don't feel old enough to have children

(32:55):
and I have three.

Speaker 3 (32:56):
Yeah, you definitely have kids. I thank you, say, you know,
but I think every I feel that way too. And
although I'm only two years into getting used to the idea,
how do you feel about that?

Speaker 2 (33:11):
I mean, I think it's you know, every generation says
the same thing. Like the secret is you never feel old,
you know, and you just realize that you kind of are,
and you're you think.

Speaker 1 (33:24):
The craziest trip about this is like it was so
the show ended in two thousand and seven, and it's
been so long, but then it feels like it was
also just yesterday.

Speaker 3 (33:36):
Especially sitting here, it feels like it was yesterday.

Speaker 2 (33:39):
I know.

Speaker 1 (33:40):
It's crazy how instantly it all comes.

Speaker 3 (33:43):
Just forget all about our children. What you don't exist, yea.

Speaker 2 (33:49):
We have.

Speaker 1 (33:50):
The craziest thing is when we get all of our
kids together, that's going to be the biggest trip. And
by the way, also I am envisioning nineties calm daytime, Ohna.
We bring families and we hit the greatest place on earth.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
They're not going to get an objection for me.

Speaker 1 (34:08):
I think that we absolutely should do. I mean, and
also we will trip so many people out to be
like having our families children in Disneyland, Disney World, sorry,
Disney World would.

Speaker 3 (34:22):
Be like twenty of us just moving through.

Speaker 1 (34:25):
The Can you just the best part will be is
thinking about my.

Speaker 2 (34:29):
Kids Disneyland, but Disney World, disney World a whole.

Speaker 1 (34:34):
But can you imagine if we have Grandma Catherine?

Speaker 2 (34:38):
Yeah, I feel like we need Grandma.

Speaker 1 (34:41):
Would would she go by? Would she even go by Grandma?
I don't know, I don't know, I don't remember.

Speaker 2 (34:48):
I mean that's up to the kids. I feel they're
going to decide when she goes by.

Speaker 1 (34:53):
My Inma decided what she was going to go by.

Speaker 3 (34:56):
Yeah, I mean I think usually grandma chooses what he's called,
Like we have Mimi, you know, Affeelia. What do you
want to be called? At that point?

Speaker 1 (35:09):
Me?

Speaker 2 (35:09):
Yeah, Well, first of all, I'm so maybe this is weird,
but I am not a dad. I am a papa.
So my kid calls me papa and I don't know
that's that was like, that was something I felt very
strongly about. And I do you know, I don't have
to go there. I just didn't want to. I didn't

(35:33):
want my kid to call me dad. I don't know
dad and daddy, and I was like, I like, papa,
felt like it was more sweet and innocent and like,
you know.

Speaker 3 (35:44):
Appropriate, that's whatever feels like.

Speaker 1 (35:47):
I like that for you though, I think that that
actually every time you said it, I'm like, that feels right,
like yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:54):
So I'm a papa okay, And that's that was where
I truth lined.

Speaker 1 (35:58):
That was nice to still be mommy, but I am
clearly by my youngest mom mom. And it's not like
it's not like it's not a knife mom.

Speaker 2 (36:08):
It's like, wow, well you know, yeah, they they draw
them all out when they're calling for you. Yeah, was
my mom for a while, we were papa and my mom,
which I was.

Speaker 3 (36:24):
And then now she knows our names or she'll hear
me like call grants, so she'd go Gret Gret Stig,
mommy and daddy. That's cute. Most see, that's very cute.
Or she says Mackenzie too sometimes.

Speaker 1 (36:40):
Wells when they call me Beverly, I'm like, oh, no,
we're not going down that because that's also I feel
like I'm in trouble.

Speaker 2 (36:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (36:50):
Beverly is just also just such a strange thing to.

Speaker 3 (36:53):
Like yell out it's weird.

Speaker 1 (36:55):
Bev is fine, but don't call me Beverly.

Speaker 2 (36:58):
My kid called me my first name. I just look
at her crazy talking about you know, just like repeating.

Speaker 3 (37:07):
That what she hears it's not really yeah, yeah totally.
Or like if I'm like calling Grit, you can't hear
me for because he has like a headphone or something.
And I said, right, great, she'll start saying great. She
sounds like she also yells at the dogs too. Homer Man,
he come here. That's cute, that's funny.

Speaker 2 (37:27):
I have a bird and my bird. My bird always
tells Lily uh to go upstairs, go to your room.
Bird with Lily's going crazy, do you remember our bird
will be like Lily, go upstairs.

Speaker 1 (37:40):
Do you know Brenda had a lot of funny, really
cool birds and really cool parrots. She had the gray
that gray African gray. Yeah yeah, yeah, Brenda had are
still she probably still does live up to eighty years. Yeah,
I think yeah she has a few, because I remember

(38:00):
going over and the birds would always like talk to it,
like would talk. Some of them would say funny things.

Speaker 2 (38:05):
Oh yeah, I said, yeah, it's the greatest. All right,
Well got our birds.

Speaker 1 (38:11):
Since she was as we wrap up this episode, what
traits would you say that we may have carried with
us from our characters like that, like or you know
or if any or you wish they did or anything

(38:33):
that you wish that they did follow like the beggar Simon.

Speaker 2 (38:39):
Yeah, Simon's fiscal responsibility would have been nice. I don't know.
Simon wasn't very sassy. I feel maybe he was. I
don't know. Do you remember Simon being her?

Speaker 1 (38:54):
You always had so many great one though there were
like you had zingers. I felt like Simon would come
in and would be like you would just just you
were very straight to the point you'd be able to like, yeah, definitely,
that was like, Yeah, I think I.

Speaker 3 (39:11):
Oh, I kept that one. I don't.

Speaker 1 (39:18):
I mean, I think I think there's far too many
things to admit to that I have, uh that are
still with me.

Speaker 3 (39:27):
For Lucy, I had the tattoo removed.

Speaker 1 (39:30):
That's good, So I'm grateful for that's that's great. Meanwhile,
I have a bigger one over covered full back well.
Talking about some of our other castmates, who do you
think was like the closest to their character or the story.

Speaker 3 (39:48):
I think Jesse was really pretty close to her character.

Speaker 1 (39:51):
I was going to say, complete opposite.

Speaker 3 (39:52):
Well are you being sarcastic? Like she's really sporty. Mary
was like totally parts were different. She's like responsible now,
you say, right, but like you say, I guess she's
different now. But Jesse, like the Jesse back then, also

(40:13):
is a bit different than the Like Jesse never used
to catch her in a skirt or a dress. That's
actually and that was very much.

Speaker 1 (40:20):
She was Adidas all day long.

Speaker 3 (40:22):
Yeah, like total tomboy.

Speaker 1 (40:24):
Yeah, I mean she always had her her like slides
and like big baggy short and yeah, and then there
was the wild Jesse. But I don't think Mary ever
got wild because remember, like Jesse just used to like
shock us like with like whether it was like wearing
some something that was supposed to be a hat as

(40:48):
a shirt, I don't know. There was lots of funny
saying that.

Speaker 3 (40:52):
She happy was a lot like her character as well.
Happy was probably the closest, but I would say.

Speaker 1 (40:57):
Except for I think Happy was a lot more skittish.

Speaker 3 (40:59):
Ship in real life.

Speaker 1 (41:02):
Yes, and then Barry and mad Uh. Barry is not
a doctor, no, nor would I trust him to be one.
H But I think Annie and Catherine were are very similar.

Speaker 3 (41:24):
Yes, Catherine's a bit wilder.

Speaker 1 (41:27):
Yeah, and actually Catherine is far funnier like Eddie wasn't
funny like Catherine is.

Speaker 2 (41:36):
The funniest of us.

Speaker 1 (41:38):
Yes, yeah, she's the most entertaining by far. But but
but has no awareness that she is being funny. You know,
she's like and half the half the time she looks
at you being surprised that everything it's so funny. But
I like, like, you know, when she needs two hours

(42:00):
to get somewhere, that's only like ten, it's a way.
But you know what, I love what we love about her.

Speaker 2 (42:07):
Would you trust would you trust George to be a cop?

Speaker 1 (42:12):
I mean I have no comment, no, absolutely not to uphold.

Speaker 3 (42:17):
You know, there are cops and bad cops. I think
cops could be the cops.

Speaker 1 (42:23):
There's a kind of cop George would be. Not George
would be the cop that he might hires at a
bachelor party academy. Did you just hear what I said? Yeah, Yeah,
he would be the cop that you He would be
a super cap.

Speaker 3 (42:40):
He would love that. He would be the strips. He
would do it for free. Actually, I mean he might be.
I haven't talked to him lately that might be what
he's volunteers have no idea.

Speaker 2 (42:50):
Just sorry, George, you know what.

Speaker 1 (42:56):
He love that she's gonna love.

Speaker 3 (42:59):
I love George.

Speaker 1 (43:01):
Well, speaking of Catherine, I'm very excited that she will
be coming on our show soon as well, So make
sure you keep following our pods.

Speaker 2 (43:09):
Sure.

Speaker 1 (43:10):
Yeah, weird like crazy, and I can't wait to have
those conversations because I just also, she's just she's just
so magical.

Speaker 2 (43:22):
It'll be really funny to pick Katherine's brain and kind
of get her memories out and what she there's the
impressions that she has.

Speaker 1 (43:31):
The part about it too with Catherine is also about
how our memories are so different on certain storios situations.

Speaker 3 (43:40):
Pets are all yeah, yeah, it's nice.

Speaker 1 (43:43):
So stay tuned for another episode of Catching Up with
the Candians and we'll see him
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