May 15, 2024 • 51 mins
What if I told you Hollywood isn’t all it’s cracked up to be? This week we read award-winning actress Constance Wu’s memoir “Making a Scene” and it’s, dare we say, pretty random. We discuss her time as a struggling actress, sex in Union Square, canceling a “Fresh Off the Boat” producer (and co-star backlash), owning a bunny, Mormon-owned coffee shops, not really talking about “Crazy Rich Asians,” theater kid drama, Michelle Yeoh dictating texts to her iPad, and Constance’s many, many ex-boyfriends.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Celebrity.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Really, there was a long line over there. Thanks for
not getting weirded out at a girl going to the
bathroom on a day. Some guys can get kind of
weird about that constance.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
I'm not like other guys. I actually thought you were
taking a dump, which I thought ultimately was a hilarious
move to pull during a second day in the West Village.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Oh my god, you are absolutely crazy. I've never heard
someone be so honest and straightforward.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Before you bring out the side of me that's so
freaking silly.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Wow, Okay, Professor Durpenstein.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
I feel like with you, like when I tell you
I'm struggling at my teaching job at NYU.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
You really get it. And you listen to me.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
When I talk about how I must struggle lean actress
going to auditions for Best Buy commercials in Midtown. You
don't think, Hey, that's stupid. She's never gonna make it.
Maybe she could be in a commercial one day, but
she'll never be doing Shakespeare in the park. You think, wow,
she's cool, or I don't know, maybe you don't.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
I'm sorry, no, just stop. You look so sorry. This
is like two for it.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
You just look so like sexy when you doubt yourself,
don't you close your eyes and your left eye flutters nervously,
and then you get this sparkle and then you do
this thing with your hands that's so cute, and they
shake a little, and then your left like also starts shaking,
and I don't know, sorry, I'm.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Can I tell you a secret please? I just kind
of had a flash of what your penis looks like.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
Conston.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
I know, I'm so weird. That was so inappropriate. I
should never say that to a guy. I'm sorry, So
can I ask? It seems like a really nice size.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
Do you want to feel its size?
Speaker 2 (02:05):
I kind of do. Ah, that's so weird of me.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
Touch it?
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Oh my god. Wow, it reminds me of a nice
three day old, stale focaccia, just kind of hard but
kind of soft at the same time.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
Come on me, I want to show you someplace. I'll
get the check.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
That's really gentlemanly of you, But I don't need you
to get the check.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
You could totally pay.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
I'm a feminist, but I don't have to.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
Be, so I okay, I will pay then.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
Cool.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Honestly, I didn't even notice that you would or would
not have paid. It doesn't matter to me.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Oh well the check was actually a lot. Okay, it's
actually not a problem.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
But no, no, no, I got it. I got it was
just like more than I expected.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
That's totally cool. I'm just really struggling right now in
my acting career, so I don't really have the.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
No, no, no, I wasn't asking. Yeah, no, it's that's totally fine.
It's just like whoa New York City. If you're in,
you're you can still be shocked by the prices.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Who's that knocking at the door.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
It's all your friends, you filthy whorse. Your husband's gone,
and we've got books and a bottle of wine to kill.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
It's Hollywood, it's books, it's gossip.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
I'm sure it's memoir.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
It's Martini.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Celebrity poof club to read it while it's hot, celebrity
poof club.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
I'll tell your secrets.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
We won't talk celebrity books.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
No boys are a loud celeto say it loud and
poud celebrity book club.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
Buzz me in.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
I brought the queer foe hey by friend. How the
hell are you.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
Live in my life? Lovita Loca? In New York City,
things are crazy.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Yeah, it's a wild, wild city.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
Okay, this morning, I'm so random.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
I was taking a shower like hot and sexy, and
I got out of the shower and I couldn't turn
the water off, Like I had turned one knob off,
but the other one kept on going and I was
trying to turn it but it was like stuck because
I had like turned it too hard.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
And we all know everyone's shower is totally unique.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
You know you have a showered ed yc one.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Anyway, I had to like go running for my super
to find him and being like, hey, sorry, I showered.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Like wait, and you're like in a towel. I mean
I did get in the towel wrap and so like
the manny petty things like on the toes.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Like shaving cream everywhere, being so nineties, like my in
laws are coming over and my shower.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Won't turn off, and your apartment's flooding and all your
dildos are floating, They're.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Floating everywhere, and then my landlord's all my dildos and
was so embarrassing.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
My landlord like did pull my dildos off from under
the sink, like somewhat recently when he was fixing a leak,
and I think he just didn't notice them because they
were in like a tupperware box.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
It's funny that you keep them. I feeling under the sink.
That's such a I feel like area for mold.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
And we'll get into dildo keeping safety in the VIP lounge.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
We'll be having our friend on Janet who is an
expert in toy upkeeper and just.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
How to keep things dry, sanitary and uh ready to go.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Uh No, I mean, I guess I keep them in
there because sometimes it's just more like that's where you
rinse the toys and then they kind of go back
in there. I'm not so like dildo and lube and instead
of the bad you know that. I have a huge
issue with people who have the industrial Loube pump on
the side of the bed. I don't really use all
the stuff that often anyway.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
What about in a drawer would you be anti well?
Speaker 2 (05:44):
I famously don't have any drawers in my bedroom.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Let's say, maybe like a fellow folk you know, and
did this, I had some loub in a cool small drawer.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Tastefully if it was in another container within the drawer,
I would say that's tasteful. But just loose in the
drawer and lubes getting all over like quarters and hair ties, Like.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
It's not that, but it has a strong cap, a.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Wrong cap, but it's still getting like sticky on the side.
There's no way that it's just like perfectly fresh and clean.
And you're telling me that it's quarters and hair ties
and loop.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Well no, I mean I do have a huge like
lesbian toolbox of toys in my closet, and then there's
like mom, close your ears, like blube blues, quarters, old
credit cards, rosaries kind of drawer happening for easy grab use.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
I just like try to avoid that. So that's why
I have the box that's just like the dildo, the loop.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
You know, bedside George disgusting under my like ridgewood, like
moldy sink that sanitary.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Call me old fashioned, but I think like sexual things
should be privd especially in a small apartment, people are
always like going into your bedroom.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Yeah, I mean, if I have a cat sitter, like
things are getting cleared out of the drawers to the toolbox,
I get all my cats that are literally like from
the body listeners.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Now they're going to go rummaging for your toolbox.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Lily when I cats it half In the past, that
was always the first thing.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
You look in the bedside, Georgia, see what the toys are? Yeah,
because you're usually catching for lesbians once.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
I yeah, Cat's at for a queer couple, which was
super awesome for me.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
And that was years ago.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
And I do they listen to the pod and they're
not going to know that you found her toys.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Their current lover does know. Okay, so yeah, we actually
read a book this week.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
We read a book by someone who totally is into sex. See.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Yeah, someone who's like totally sex positive, but Alto was
like quirky about sex.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Yeah, she's I guess I.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
Didn't know she was such a sex quirkster.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Yeah. I mean quirkster is the right word because she's
definitely not like kinky. But as she says, she loves Peanie.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
You know her never from the blockbuster known as Crazy
Rich Asians.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
You may also know her from the j Loo Joint Hustlers.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
That got totally snubbed at the twenty twenty one Oscars.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
You know her from six seasons of these sitcom freshfsh Off.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Boat Ladies and Gentlemen and Folks, Constance and whoo woo
and her book making a scene.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Wow, this book.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
Wow. I didn't know kind of what was coming, I'll
tell you that.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Yeah, I mean at a certain point we listened to
the audiobook. We listened to it on this interminable drive
back down from Vermont in the eclipse traffic. So by
the time you hear this, you guys will be like,
what the eclipse, But you're like, what is this seventeen Yeah,
when totality happens, the only thing that's total is the traffic.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
Yeah, ten hour drive. Oh and by the way, had
no OX.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
So we were just listening to it off my beautiful
speakers on my not even a JBL my iPhone, just.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
The phone iPhone thirteen on the center console.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Which is an insane way to listen to a book.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Yeah, as you're just in like absolute dead traffic in
any nine, I don't know. She's just like so fucking nerdy, dirty,
dirty Corney the horny theater girl. I was like, this
is the most like insufferable theater goal where like to
the extent that she makes Anna Kendrick look like Jemima Curry, like,
(09:39):
she makes Anne Hathaway look like Courtney Love, like she
is so weirdly like childish, and the way she speaks
is actually it's mind blowing.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
I have said to audio Roll because when I did
go to one of our favorite institutions in New York City,
the library, and take out the book reading, it was
a like calmer experience then like hearing her audio.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
But I'm glad I got the audio because you want.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
To hear her be like and then he would shake
his penis after work and we would play the silliest
games after sex, and then I would kiss his flaccid
penis on the head and then we may get tie
takeout and watch really bad movies.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Like that is not an exaggeration. Like what you're saying
is exactly what the book is, like the first chapter,
and I would say maybe half these chapters are just
about her like kind of dating random guys, and you're
just like, wow, I guess this is like an interesting
kind of piece of color. You're gonna really this will
teach a lesson or something, and you're like kind of
not really, but like the whole first chapter is about
(10:46):
like this relationship. She was in New York and she's
always in the West Village. She's always been in restaurants
and they would pretend to have fights at restaurants and
he was the mader d and I was a waitress
and like she is kind of speaking like this, like you.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
No, it feels like the whole thing is when someone
does a skit of.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Like what a mid borderline Daria character.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Two thousands annoying, like Indie rom com is about. Did
you see that Anne Hathaway movie where she like has
stomach Why do girls and movies.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
Always have stomach cancer?
Speaker 3 (11:22):
By the way, she's like bipolar or has like some
cancer that is like not curable. And like she starts
dating j Jillenhall and she lives in a really raw loft.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Not seen this at all, but sounds like it's up
my ouse.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
Yeah, I mean you would love it. And she's like, sorry,
I'm just sick, and I live in the most raw.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Beautiful loft in the world.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Is my loft.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
This book has ver all these scenes and I think
I thought the beginning when she's talking about this like
guy Rob, like, oh okay, this is gonna be the
one relationship right as you said, that teaches her a lesson,
But it's like more a series of her dating guys
and I feel like, honestly that I'm breaking up with
her because she's annoying.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Yeah, that's kind of like the low key like subplot
of the book as just being like and it didn't
work out any more of the cost country and I
was so her and I try not to think about him.
So I went on another audition for a part that
I didn't get, and she's just always being all about
it and then just speaking in this very baby voice.
(12:28):
I mean, I think the other overarching plot of this
book and her career, like that I did kind of
know before I read the book, was that she has
a either desire to be more of a prestige actress
or a delusional sense that she is more of a
prestige actress than she is, and so like always butting
up against that. I mean, the cover of the book
(12:50):
is very interesting. It's a very chic. It's a very
she cover, and it does make you think that you're like, oh,
she's like a really like sexy important like contempt artists.
It's like helvetiko wo and then making a scene under it.
And it's just black and red, which are two of
the most important colors in graphic design because they're the
most so tension grab powerful, stark, powerful colors. And then
(13:15):
it's just like the way her hair comes down, it's
almost like it's very kind of like religious almost, the
hair like comes down into this one kind.
Speaker 5 (13:22):
Of shit feels very religious but also political, yes, and
you're like, wow, this this is gonna be a religious
political tone by one of the most important contemporary artists
of our time.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
And it's like, no, it's actually kind of a dirty
relationship diary.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
I feel like she's trying to be kind of like
Cidaris esque a little. There were some of those stories
that I feel like should have happened earlier in the
book that I did find interesting about, like her parents'
marriage and how like Hollywood always like assume that like
she based her Fresh off the Boat character off her mom,
and that like everyone was like, well, you must have
had like such a tiger mom that was like always
(13:59):
making you practice math, and she's like, actually, no, Like
my mom was kind of just like fab and like
taking me to Applebee's and just like them, like taking
me to movie auditions and like divorced. My father was
mad that he didn't get a sectomy, and I thought
that was kind of like more of a interesting family essay.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
That essay was also included this very kind of quirky
very Sidarus asked peace about how her mom would like
break into these unsold houses in the development in like
North Carolina, which is like Virginia or sorry, Virginia not
to be regionalist.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
Regions today, not today, but this.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Very poignant little meditation on American suburbia and that kind
of like the scale of these uninhabited places. I think.
Also one of my other favorite kind of suburban y
essays was doing the beginning the bread essay, which I
thought was actually like interesting tea.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
That actually was huge tea.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Where it was all about how she was working with
this bakery as a teen, and then there's this new
bakery comes to town called good Ingrain, and like she
just a good job of like describing this like new
aesthetic of this kind of more.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
It's like basically like a live Laugh Love chain with
like big rights.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
She works for like the old school one.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
And everyone starts going to the Live Laugh Love Mall
bakery even though they don't even mill their own flower,
can you believe them? But then they go to business
because like the owner is.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
Like dating one of the like teen Bakery.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Like Groomy one of the teen bakers, who's also the
hot popular girls in school, that constant who was jealous.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
It really was being like lifetime movie about that.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
But I was into that story, but like, I don't know,
those are happening, but they don't really add up to
anything more because then there's just also so many essays
about her, like dating random guys just to even really
talk about like crazy rich Asians. No, I guess it
leads up to this because it's kind of I guess
a me Too book. I guess is the one, like it.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
Leads up to a me too.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
And I feel like she's not trying to be like
my Rise to Fame. It's way more of a fresh
off the boat and like feeling okay with yourself and
like reconnecting with your mother.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Right and also just like being really annoying and what
like what it's like to just like be annoying. But
it was interesting that she's, like you said, like her
mom's not a Tiger mom because which also you need
to read and I'm halfway through and you've been.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
Halfway through Tiger.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
I can't read it because you've been halfway through for
about nine years.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
You need a tiger mom to.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Can you finish? Finished? Before she been admitted, I was
because read the book, I was like, you know, it
doesn't sound like her mom is a tiger mom because
she is a goodie two shoes. She is like a
good student kind of and like she brags for an
entire chapter about how she wrote this amazing essay with
this other teacher thought she plagiarized, and like there's a
lot of her like bragging about how she's so smart
(16:49):
and ran the like campaign of her friend for like
student counsel and her friend won just because she rewrote
her speech and like she made all her campaign posters
and came up with the whole concept and like she's
such a genius. But like it's definitely not coming from
the mom pressuring her, because I know.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
That's her point of just being like the don't assume
I have this like crazy tiger mom just because like
she's a time when using immigrant.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
But she also then like in that way when she
says don't assume, she calls out this New Yorker writer
who was writing the profile of her and is like,
and she clearly wanted me to be the child of
a tiger mom, soho would fit her narrative, but I'm
not going to fit into her narrative. And I was
reading the New Yorker profile and it's not such a
piece of gotcha journalism, like it is actually like kind
(17:34):
of making her sound a lot more interesting than she is.
Was it a review of No, it's just a profile
of her and like about how she's Like.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
So what did the New Yorker say about her?
Speaker 2 (17:44):
I mean, okay, I'm not gonna lie, Like I didn't
read the whole thing because it's long and it's.
Speaker 4 (17:49):
Not a fact checkable pod where just you.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Know, but like even the beginning, it's like there's this
sense of her trying to be more prestige than she
is and she's doing some indie movie and she's just
been like the character needs to be like less sexy,
Like they're only making her like this because men want
her to be sexy, and like I should be wearing
less makeup in this scene. And that's kind of how
the piece, Like that's how they like introduce her of
being kind of like pushy about this thing and just
(18:13):
being like, oh, she's such an artiste and like she's
such an auteur who's so in control and like wants
things to be authentic, but it's sometimes it's just like
for some random movie no in a scene that to
me is just like the ultimate tension of just being like,
you have this chic, artistic cover and you're trying to
be so like, I'm an authentic go Tourna will not
just be sexy in a random movie because a guy
wants me to. But ultimately, I guess I.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
Will give it to her though, like she kind of
knows she is not like which again is also a
little bit her humble bragging, Like, so she has this
whole thing about there are stars who.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
Are the golden ones, who are.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Let's say maybe and an half away or something like that,
or you know, someone who walks in and gets the
role instantly, and she's like, I'm not a golden one,
and I'll never be a golden one, And like I
had to like beg my agents to allow me to
like audition for Hustlers because they said I should just
get an offer. Then I wrote to the Hustlers director
(19:09):
and I got that audition and then I got the role,
and like the same thing for Cressy Jason's and they like,
you know, changed the schedule around for me.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Can we talk quickly about both those two movies, because
those are two movies that I've seen Sam Cool.
Speaker 4 (19:22):
I mean I loved her in Hustlers.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
I did love her in Hustlers, but like she wasn't
like the movie for me, you know.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
If there's something about that movie that and this is
why I didn't win the Oscar is like something was off.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
It was two lifetime in this way, like it just
wasn't totally there.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
Yeah, like it wanted to be prestige but also like
sexy but indie but like sex positive but also still
like Jaylo walking down the streets and fur.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
I kind of think it's a little bit like this
show Euphoria, which is the only show that I've seen
like one episode of, But it's a little bit like
why is the show trying to be like a crazy
like trippy like d drug romance but also like teen
after school drama and it's the grassy but it's traffic
and it's a little bit like pick One, And I
feel like Hustler's suffered from that tonally.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
It either should have been even like campier because it
did have some very fun campy parts and they all
like trained for a year like with strippers, and it
should have been campier or like more serious and more
fucked up and had that more Oscar thing where it's like,
oh my god.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
But I do think that Constance in a way that
Jlo does too. They're kind of similar this way where
it's like they both want to be too like pretty, yeah,
and it's like ironic that she's trying to not be
pretty in them New York a piece. It's like Cardi B,
I think would have actually been better in the Constance role.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
I mean, Cardi B would have been amazing on the Consots.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Role because she was really funny the two seconds used
in that movie. But Cardi B also like literally is
a stripper and like does have fake tits and is
a little bit more like that vibe, right, and.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
It's not like actress girl like studying. What is just
so funny about Constance when the theaterness of.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
Her is that she just like is that girl.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
That like gets the role and then is like I'm
actually going undercover in Method this week and it's like
at Tish and it's like, hey, guys want to come
to a strip club in New Jersey with me this weekend,
like I'm actually researching like drug runners, and she's like
going there.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
And she's getting when she gets there.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
And she's like, ah, yeah, I'll have a tequila ice
and is like getting kind of a sexy outfit from
Forever twenty one, but something is off and then is
like okay, let's go.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Yeah. It's like no, she works very hard and never
really lets loose at all, and like is just like
completely the most uptight goody two shoes that you can imagine,
and so that comes through even when she's like pretending
to be gritty. It's just like it feels like more
(22:02):
of a pretense, right, I don't know. I mean she
made more sense of crazyerc agents, although I just kind
of thought Crazy Rich Agels was boring. Sorry really yeah,
I like Fellows sleep watching.
Speaker 4 (22:11):
And I loved Crazy Rich Asians.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
I also part of me was upset because when I
first heard about Crazy Rich Asians, I thought I was
gonna be about these like badass, like sexy rich teens
in Singapore.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
No, you were disappointed. You wanted to be.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
More about like a crew of like nine batties, like
being so credit cards.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Yeah, and like always like stealing Daddy's credit card and
just like I thought it would be more like Hustlers. Honestly,
just like where's the coke? Where's the credit cards?
Speaker 4 (22:40):
Well make that movie, babe.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
No I know. If anyone needs to make the movie
about just like four badass like rich Asian Chicas taking
over Sanza, it's me.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
And then you send an offer to Constant Woo and
you're like, I don't know if you heard my podcast
where I.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Want to part your memoir instead that you're annoying, but
I think that you could redeem yourself.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Cet Celebrity book Club.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
Let's talk about her in crazy rotations and the kind
of the Fresh off the Boat cancelation her me too
and kind of all that.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Okay, let's just get the plot out of the way.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
It was just a little plot here, okay, little housekeeping.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
So she's doing Fresh off the Boat, which I remember
when it came out because I like love situational comedy.
I was like, oh, I'm going to watch this, and
then didn't. But I did watch like two episodes last night,
and I was like, there's just something about like a
new sitcom she was. I did have some singers in
it and like, I felt like her character was being
kind of fun, but I don't know the sitcom for me,
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it was just too sitcom in like a too recent
way that was just not personally hitting for me.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Yeah, I mean so all I met. I watched a
trailer for Fresh off the Boat yesterday. That was the
amount of research I did, And I did have to
say this was saying it before. So she got flack
initially for doing like a Chinese immigrant accent in the show,
and I just I don't buy I know that she
literally is like a second generation or first generation, I
forget which where you start counting, But I do find
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the accent a little bit, and I, you know, as
someone who is not fully Asian. But I'm like, I'm
not totally buying it. It does seem a little bit fake.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
Well, I think it ULTI might be with the stiltedness
of the sitcom.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Because it's like so sickcommy.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
Yeah, feels like a little weird.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
It's also one of those single camera right, it's not
shot in front of the studio, NaNs. Theer is in
like a laugh track, right, yeah, there's no laugh track. Yeah,
I don't know, I get it. I don't know, I
think that like Margaret Chow not to pit Asian women
against each other, but I think market just take.
Speaker 4 (24:59):
You beating them against each other.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
Also, what is okay? I feel like a lot of
people at the time in the show where it's like, oh,
there's never been a sickom but like All American Girl
was in nineteen ninety six or whatever, and that show
was so funny.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
Well, I think the point was that it's All American
Girl lasted for not even a full season, and they're
talking about Fresh off the Boat lasting for six seasons.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
No, in America wasn't ready.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
America wasn't ready. And I mean, as we know of
reading all Murgat show stuff, she wasn't even happy with
how they did do All American Girl. No, she was
like so angry at like what they made her do
and like.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
The plot right, and they thought they were making her
be too just like walk jokes right.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
And this was like so like critically well received.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
What Fresh off the Boat Yeah, And.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
I was kind of like, okay, So I don't know,
it's just like a sick calm.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
I feel like it's kind of medium. I feel like
it's more like people are like we acknowledge it as
like a milestone. Yes, it's more getting kind of milestone credit.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
Than it was being more milestone. And I feel like
I don't.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Think anyone's put In on their list of besta cooms.
Speaker 4 (26:01):
Like it literally was like it won like all these
Critics Choice Awards.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Because everyone is desperate for a Critics Choice Award.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
I mean, you'd be pretty happy if you had a
Critics Choice Award.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
People want the Emmys, they want the like Saga Ward or.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
Whatever, so if you got one, you wouldn't care.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
I would literally would throw it in the Okay, But basically,
so did you like it was a funny sounds like.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
I was enjoying it and I watched two episodes. I
wouldn't watch more, but I was like she was being
funny in it, and like she was being kind of
like sassy to her husband, and she had this whole
plot with her like white best friend on the show
about like theater and like diet.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
Well, this is this thing about her And I think
this applies to Anna Kendrick too, is like you can
be like super weird and nerdy and uptight and then
it's somehow like in this almost scientology way, just like
works when you're trying to be funny, even though like
you would probably not be funny as a person to
hang out with and have a conversation with.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
I mean, I think this andestly applies to most actors.
Is like how you can be like that's why you
are funny or have good timing. It's like you can
be kind of blank and then like go into the role.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Yeah, okay, So there's this whole chapter. The longest chapter
in the book is about how she was continually sexually
harassed by a producer on Fresh off the Boat that
she refers to as m And she does not name
his name, but if you go on or at it,
it's pretty clear that it's this guy, Melvin Maher, who
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is still working and is like producing more like Netflix
shows about.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
It looks like he produces that show The America Phil
about the creator of Everybody Loves Raymond Eating.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
And he's also doing this Disney show called prom Packed.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
No, I mean, he's working.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
And the whole thing about her me Too is basically
like she had agents and stuff, but really kind of
like he convinced her that she had to rely on
him for kind of like all like official things and
you know, he abuses power and was always like, oh, no,
you can't go to a table read. You have to
do this, and like her agents would be like, no,
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you don't have to do that, and he'd be like,
don't listen to them. And then there's this one time
where he takes her to a basketball game and it's
kind of just a lot of inappropriate things combined together.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Yeah, he's feeling her up at the basketball game and
just kind of generally being creepy and just being like
you need to come with me, you need to do this,
like you should do that, and just kind of being
very demanding and implying. And then he's like says this
thing where he's like, I can fuck any Asian American
actress I want.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
And this is like after he gets her like a
custom T shirt at the Nike store that seems insane.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
But what does it say on this shirt? That's what
I would didn't worry. She doesn't say doesn't reveal with
the shirt.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
So they go to this Lakers game and she's like,
I'll only go if you get me like beard hot dogs,
and then he gets mad at her and really poudy
that she's not paying attention to the game just a
little bit, like have you heard like girls in sports?
Speaker 4 (29:03):
Like right, he was mad that she wasn't.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
I mean, he's upset because she's not like learning with
him and like.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
Yeah and being like, oh my god, I can't believe
we're almost courtside the Lakers. So then he starts like
texting someone else and he's being like yeah, any like
young Asian American us were like fuck me. And then
she like plays guy's girl to like smooth things over.
And then in between that, he goes into the Nike
store and he's like, have you ever been to the
Nike store?
Speaker 4 (29:27):
And she's like, I've been to a Nike store, not
this particular one.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
That was one of the funniest was I went to
a Nike store.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
And he goes in and clearly they're like doing some
from whatever promotion where you get probably just like a
Lakers T shirt and you can get something printed that
says like I went to the Lakers game.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Yeah, or does it just say her name on it
or something like I thought it was gonna be something
like totally inappropriate.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
Right, like I have big titties and I went to
the Lakers game. And then she leaves, and she is
impressed by the T shirt, and he keeps something like
send me a selfie, send me a selfie, and she's like,
I hate selfies.
Speaker 4 (30:05):
I think they're so narcissistic.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
And that's like her excuse to not send a selfie,
and then she does, but it's like a really tame selfie,
and then the next day he's like, you should have
sent sexier selfie. And now he's uncancelled, and here's just
a photo of him getting a shoulder massage from John
de Mayor out of Private I'm in Ocotobra.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
So basically, at some point she's just like fuck it,
like I'm gonna say something. Oh, and there's like another
woman who's like you should go to HR, and she's
like I won't. So then finally she breaks down. She
tweets about this guy, and the whole fresh off the
boat crew is actually really mad at her, but she
doesn't name him. Yeah, She just like says, like a producer.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Yeah, And so she kind of has this like anonymous
metoage and then everyone's pissed at her, and then a
former colleague of hers dms her and tells her that
she like destroying the Asian American acting community and she
needs to shut her damn mouth. And she also doesn't
say who that person is, but Lily has a theory,
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so I haven't.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
I mean, this could be she says, basically a former colleague.
And this happens right after she shot Crazy Rigasians. Then
I went to this guy's Instagram and then he's at
like this table with like Philip Limb and like Michelle Yao.
And I'm like, did Michelle Yao DM her? And was
like you need to shut your trap?
Speaker 1 (31:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (31:27):
I mean I think Michelle Yo was like, oh yo, bitch.
Speaker 4 (31:31):
Yeah, it's is zip Bet is she dming?
Speaker 2 (31:34):
Though Michelle Yo Dming does seem like a stretch.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
Now, I'm just like, maybe it was someone like a
little bit younger or not like.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Her, Like Michelle Yo doesn't run her own Instagram message.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
She's not going to messages being.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Like no, she has an assistant who's like responding to
things for her.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
She's like, actually, give me back my iPad, I need
to DM constants.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
So maybe it was just like somebody else like who
is not that far.
Speaker 4 (32:03):
Right, who is just like I feel like you shouldn't
do this. And then she tries to kill herself and
it's kind of sad.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
But well, so then there's this other thing where so
then Fresh off the Boat gets like renewed, and that
d she tweets that she's just like, oh damn it,
like I'm so pissed. Then she said that that was
about something else, that it wasn't about Fresh off the
Boat getting renewed. It was just like she meant that
she couldn't do a different project. And then it was like,
you're so ungrateful for being on this important show that
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is somewhat critical claimed but mostly acknowledged for being a milestone.
And so that's.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
About why women can't be annoyed that they're still in
a six year sitcom one camera contract.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
Yeah, I mean I'd be furious if I was on
an ABC sircum for six years. I would be so funny.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
Furiously, even if you were raking in, I feel like
you would just be like, what the fuck?
Speaker 4 (33:00):
I want to go to copenhau Get No.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
Literally, I would just be like, I'm not doing this anymore.
I'm going to Copenhanger and I don't care.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
And then like some like Silver Daddy would be like
you need to do a German American photo shoot.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
No, and then all of these other like Chicago gay Nurses,
which being like so ungrateful for this opportunity.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
This show has made gay men seem really cool and responsible,
and you're just throwing that out.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Goh, so maybe we think it's not yet. Maybe it's
not yo, because she's not dming.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
Unless she is being so your mom and just like
getting out the iPad and being like, pull up Twitter
DM consonants.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
No, there's no way she's got two million followers. She's
not running her own messages.
Speaker 4 (33:51):
No, I think, yeah, it is someone random.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
I don't buy it, And then.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
Constants like delivers this like massive apology to like her
cast and like her on screen children.
Speaker 4 (34:02):
When she gets back to the sixth season.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
I also there's something about I just want to talk
about her writing style for a second, Like I wrote
down some of the more egregious sentences where you're just like,
is this for four year olds? This sentence? Asian Americans
use the word assimilation a lot. It's kind of a
fancy word for fitting in.
Speaker 4 (34:23):
It's like, why are you saying a fancy word?
Speaker 2 (34:26):
Why are you thinking that your reader, your adult reader
does another word assimilation, and then this part killed me.
New York City could make you feel invincible, like any
shit you got could be given right back to this
shit giver. This is why I was just like, oh,
she's insane. She's actually completely insane. I don't know if
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I can.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
And it's just for thinking like she's being so like
New York girl writing an essay. But in New York
the only cars I ever road were in cabs back
when I live there, cabs and have TV screens.
Speaker 4 (35:01):
Cab fair was only paid in cash. It's like, okay,
Patti Smith.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
No credit cards. Cabbys didn't make conversations, Smartphones hadn't been
invented yet. All you had were your thoughts and the windows.
I loved and looking out cab the windows at night,
it was so dreamy to watch. I mean, it is
just like SJP, but like that writing was better. It
was so dreamy to watch the city worrying by and
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wondering about all the lives it held.
Speaker 4 (35:29):
Moved me.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
But it wasn't the fancy, touristy places that moved me.
It was the plain stuff, the bodegas and the Dwayne reads,
the city banks with their fluorescent atm alcoves bars where
patrons smoked outside a closed news stand with its metal
accordium shadrawn and locked. I dates protecting darkened boutiques with
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the shoes still.
Speaker 4 (35:51):
Glowing in the display.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
I look at all and marvel, Wow, I live in
New your city, curious.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
Jail, jail directly to jail. Not is there anything more romantic?
And just like the patrons at the bar, just like okay, alien, Yeah,
but it's also her being so milady and methinks, and
just like h methinks, the patrons enjoy their five mins
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and libation.
Speaker 4 (36:26):
And there's the part.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
Where she's like referring to some like boyfriend where she
was like, once we got kicked out of every place
we went that night.
Speaker 4 (36:35):
But it's kind of for like logistical reasons.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
She's like the first place because the restaurant was closing,
the second because like the bar was also closing, and
you're like, okay, So it's more just like brag about
like going to places past when I am. Don't get
me wrong, I would do the same thing too. If
I was like telling you about a date, I'd be like,
we were there, oh.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
We closed the place down. There was one sentence that
I did actually think was kind of like noticeable writing
where she was talking about how you can tell like
I loves you that love usually starts from the center
of the face and melts the corners of the eyes downward,
and I was like, oh, that is kind of true.
That is maybe a beautiful way of describing.
Speaker 3 (37:21):
That's the romantic and you falling in love and a
city bank alcove.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
I do love to fall in love at ATMs. I've
actually made out with a guy in the alcove of
a Citizens Bank one oh so on Boston. It was
actually on Myrtle Avenue Bridge.
Speaker 4 (37:37):
There's a Citizens Bank on Myrtle.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
Yeah, wake up, we have everything. It's all going down
in Queens bit I us.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
I liked the part about her parents and I was
kind of I was, yeah, moved by that and just
kind of their different personalities.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
And I was not moved by the hour long chapter
where she talks about this guy that she is like
kind of a fuck buddy and then said though he
has a girlfriend, and then she's like looking at the
girlfriend on Facebook and she's like, she had a beautiful smile.
Her shoulders looked like they would have freckles. You're just like,
what the fuck are you talking about, bitch?
Speaker 4 (38:16):
Oh my god, it's your.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
Metamoor has a nice smile.
Speaker 3 (38:19):
Oh Gilmore girls, And she talks about like how she
was like and that night I drove to San Diego
and we had a big, fat dinner and then had
mediocre sex.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
Yeah, the fat dinner and mediocre, which we didn't mind
because we'd already had good sex before and we knew
each other well enough to have mediocre sex and we
could tell jukes about it, your.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
Jokes, And she's like, and then we went to a
diner and sat and did a crossword. In that moment,
you can stay in your silence with someone you're sleeping
with and it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
And I guess the kind of point of that entire
chapter is to be like, men aren't trustworthy because it's
the sort of broader me too narrative, and she's been wronged.
Speaker 4 (39:02):
Who do you think that is?
Speaker 3 (39:03):
Because it is this actor, but he sounds very like
someone who is an agent's of Shield or whatever, like
someone who's in ch.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
I think we're recognizing any of the like vague Network
stars are on her show that's on for eleven seasons.
Speaker 3 (39:15):
She knows and she's just like yeah, and like we
could just talk. But he was married and he and
then I ran to him and he was fat and
he tried to go home with me and I was like, no,
you can't, fat man.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
No, and he was like I got fat. And she
was just like, oh my god, I didn't notice. I
totally noticed. So she's kind of fat phobic.
Speaker 4 (39:40):
Yeah, that's fucked up. You canceling her.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
We really need to call her in about that.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
Crazy What does she what does she wear?
Speaker 4 (39:58):
How does she live?
Speaker 2 (40:00):
Okay, how does she live? Did you catch the part
where she says she has a fucking pet rabbit?
Speaker 4 (40:04):
Did I catch you? You mean the entire chapter about
her pet rabbit. I was just like, I mean, quirk alert,
quirked up.
Speaker 3 (40:14):
And she's like, and now I'm not the crazy bunny lady.
I'm just a lady with a bunny.
Speaker 4 (40:22):
Here's the thing. And let me go off on pet
rabbits first.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
No, man, go off, because I'm gonna let's both go off.
You go first.
Speaker 3 (40:29):
I think rabbits are really cute, no doubt when I
see them on Instagram with the huge floppy ears. And
you go to the state Fair and there's like a
crazy one and it's called like mistressurflops a lot, and
like it's like, oh, this is the Richardson flops in
and you're like, well, that's so cute disgusting to own
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a bunny.
Speaker 4 (40:50):
The shit pellets are everywhere, and the.
Speaker 3 (40:52):
Cage and the water bottle thing and the again pellets.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
It's the pellets.
Speaker 4 (40:59):
First of all, it's for me, suys.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
It's the palace for me, says you're feeding a palace,
but it's shitting out these little.
Speaker 4 (41:03):
Palats and it's just like which, it's NonStop.
Speaker 2 (41:06):
There's the fucking sawdust is everywhere, rattling the cage, rattling
the bottle. To me, the rabbit owner, it's always a
girl who's like desperate for you to think that she's
like so idiosyncratic and such a freaky girl. But it's
like you're actually a girl who like has a really
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messy bed.
Speaker 3 (41:27):
I knew a girl like this makes so much sense.
The girl I knew in college who like did get
a bunny was like a hot, free spirited kind of
like stoner painter sculpture question mark girl.
Speaker 4 (41:41):
Yeah, and you're like, yeah, of course you have a bunny.
And here's the thing.
Speaker 3 (41:45):
It's like the cage is get's cute when they're She's like, oh,
they come up and they want to be pat and
they but they're pausing you and then you're putting back
on the cage.
Speaker 2 (41:54):
It's kind of like messy girl who's like trying to
quit smoking but doesn't write poetry, you know what I mean.
Where it's like, where's the export, where's the product here?
Speaker 3 (42:04):
Well, it's just now I'm just like I'm giving it
to this girl who had the buddy in college because
she was so camel lights and I'm just like, I
guess you fit the bill.
Speaker 2 (42:12):
Yeah, But was she creating art that's gonna outlast her?
Was she creating art for a generation?
Speaker 4 (42:17):
Definitely not. But I feel like I don't want her
to in this way.
Speaker 2 (42:20):
You just want her to be messing girl with money.
I was just like, what's the point. I just like
it's gross.
Speaker 3 (42:26):
I'm just like, get adds up. Like, I don't think
actually anyone like if.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
You're raising rabbits outside for food, I think that's totally chill.
Speaker 4 (42:34):
Yeah, and that you're a different type of quirked up.
Speaker 3 (42:36):
Yeah, that's just like you're a farmer and freaky and
same thing with parrots.
Speaker 4 (42:43):
Parrots are cool.
Speaker 2 (42:44):
Parrot is so Aids parents is so palm spring so
Fort Lauderdale, sixty five year old.
Speaker 3 (42:52):
The entire alternative pet community is going to come for us.
Speaker 2 (42:56):
I know. But if you own a bird, it's just
so gay, gay gay palm springs. It's huge oriental fan
over the bed.
Speaker 4 (43:05):
Well which I once had.
Speaker 3 (43:06):
I'm just thinking of this house I cleaned once that
like had parrots, and like they didn't clean and there
was so much like shit behind the cage on the wall.
Speaker 4 (43:15):
It's disgusting anyway. In Constance is like I was so like.
Speaker 3 (43:20):
Manic about my like cleanup, but like now I'll only
do their little box like once a week.
Speaker 4 (43:25):
Basically, she's already.
Speaker 3 (43:27):
Grieving her bunny dying in this book, and she's like,
and I know bunnies only lived till ten.
Speaker 2 (43:32):
But here's the thing is she's so bunny because she's
actually not that co It's like she's quirked up in
a way that's so like annoying but not actually like
esoteric or like weird, because she's so West Village slash
like Williamsburg coated, like she's so white sneakers and Chanel
crossbody bag and made Well jeans.
Speaker 3 (43:51):
And currently wearing my maid Wees cropped white T shirt.
She defines a cropped white T shirt made Well, and
I think the Bunny gives her that because she also
talks about like how alt she was in high school
and like listening to Annie and Tori. So it's like
the Bunny lets her kind of still have that badass appeal.
Speaker 2 (44:15):
Yeah, even though again in style wise, as I said,
white sneakers.
Speaker 4 (44:19):
Yeah, what is she wearing? Yeah, it's like white sneakers.
Speaker 3 (44:23):
I think, like, you know, when she's getting clamped up,
it's kind of like just.
Speaker 4 (44:28):
I feel she's not.
Speaker 3 (44:29):
I mean, maybe I'm wrong, like taking so many risks
on the red carpet.
Speaker 2 (44:33):
I don't think she's a red carpet I not. And
I think that she's wearing like a Marquesa whatever and
she's just wearing the most normal stylist dresses.
Speaker 3 (44:41):
She seems to me one of those girls, tried and
true New Yorkers who wear the New York Yankee but
MoMA edition hats.
Speaker 2 (44:49):
I think that's a more modern girl would wear that.
But she's so like proudly elder millennial and always bragging
about how she had like a corded phone in her
dorm room.
Speaker 4 (44:56):
But I feel like I only see like elder millennials wearing.
Speaker 2 (44:59):
Those in New York. She's like no longer like a
New Yorker, so that's.
Speaker 4 (45:02):
Why she would wear it. Like she's one of the
people who's like she's.
Speaker 2 (45:05):
Carrying a regular regular like Yankees bucket.
Speaker 3 (45:11):
No Yankees bucket, Okay, vote in the comments she yanks.
Speaker 2 (45:17):
Because she's like she's going to the farmer's market to
buy like one leak that she's not going to cook.
Speaker 3 (45:22):
She's just so much more soft forty seven brand or
MoMA Yankees or Mets hat versus.
Speaker 4 (45:30):
Maybe she has like one bucket.
Speaker 2 (45:31):
Hat, but I think she's wearing bucket.
Speaker 3 (45:34):
I think, but I definitely think she has the moment Yankees.
She has a bunch of hats, like, no doubt there's
a bucket in the collection.
Speaker 2 (45:41):
Okay, I think.
Speaker 3 (45:42):
She's one of those girls that wears New York merch
in LA.
Speaker 2 (45:46):
Yeah. Actually, because she's so anakndrac, maybe she's actually a
little bit more beret flash train conductor hat because she
like is theater girl and she's actually more suspenders and
she does have like rail like train conductor hat and
maybe like railroad striper shorts.
Speaker 4 (46:06):
There's not a hat in sight. She is now married though,
to like a rocker, so.
Speaker 2 (46:11):
That's even more suspenders.
Speaker 3 (46:14):
He's in suspenders. She's doing as she a lot of
these like bangs.
Speaker 2 (46:20):
Okay, here's the question. Is she Buddha?
Speaker 4 (46:23):
Well she literally goes to a Buddhist retreat, so yes,
oh wait she does. It's at the end.
Speaker 3 (46:32):
I was so bored, and yeah, she like applies to
go in this Buddhist retreat and like she's just being
so girl in bet in the ol word, and she
goes in the silent retreat and she's like, we ate
her meals aga in silence.
Speaker 4 (46:43):
And I actually think it's so fucked up now.
Speaker 3 (46:45):
Like how people like scroll and eat and like it's
actually so beautiful to eat slowly. And then it made
me think, like should I do a Buddhist retreat for sure?
Learn how to eat slowly, unfold my trash really perfectly,
Like could I just wonder if I could handle it?
Speaker 4 (47:06):
Push myself, you know.
Speaker 2 (47:07):
I mean to not talk to shut your yapper for
a week. Pretty tough.
Speaker 3 (47:11):
Well, they had talking when they could talk in the
morning at the American breakfast buffet, then in silent for
the rest of the day.
Speaker 2 (47:17):
Oh, I think that comes doable.
Speaker 4 (47:19):
Yeah, I feel like that would work for me. Morning talk.
Speaker 2 (47:22):
Yeah, you kind of get through words out and then
move on.
Speaker 4 (47:26):
Who are you in the book? Are you Constance?
Speaker 3 (47:32):
Like going to Dublin taking a bus and like going
to Dublin to meet this guy. She dates this guy
and then they break up and he'll never commit. Then
they get back together and she goes to Dublin to
meet him and being like, Hey, I'm in Dublin.
Speaker 2 (47:48):
I feel like I would go to Dublin and I
would post like a selfie being like I'm in Dublin
and like wait for him to respond, right.
Speaker 4 (47:55):
I don't think you would show up instantly and.
Speaker 2 (47:57):
Text him no, because that's the same.
Speaker 3 (48:00):
I feel like I am one of her teen on
screen sons that she's like apologizing to for tweeting and
I'm just being kind of like, okay, I don't care.
Speaker 2 (48:10):
Yeah, Or when she apologizes for writing the word penis
a lot and this is her like me too, Maya Kulpa,
where she's like, I know I'm like me tween everyone,
but like I have to admit that I did have
a nasty habit of writing the word penis, and it
was an inside joke with me and myself, but some
people were made uncomfortable by that, and their discomfort is
(48:32):
no reason for me to continue making thee And you're
just kind of.
Speaker 4 (48:36):
Like, it's this whole full chapter.
Speaker 2 (48:38):
It's a full chapter. And she's like humble branging about
how fucking weird she is and crazy and dark that
she wrote the word penis on like pieces of paper
in a notebook, in a notebook when she was like
on set.
Speaker 3 (48:51):
So you're that actually, I mean you actually are the
one like drawing, like nasty drawings.
Speaker 2 (48:58):
I feel like writing and someone's being like that made
me really uncomfortable.
Speaker 4 (49:03):
And you're like, but I'm random, and.
Speaker 2 (49:05):
I'm being like, but I'm random. I'm absolutely not istuming
an apology to that.
Speaker 6 (49:08):
Pa Okay, yeah, like two point eight.
Speaker 3 (49:21):
Rusted generous out of five. I'm being kind of generous.
Speaker 2 (49:26):
Somebody's feeling really nice today. Samta got up on the
right side of the bed. I'm giving this one out
of five like rabbit pullets. I'm just like, this is
a book that did not need to be written, Like
wait till the end of your career, then write the
book everyone's waiting for. Wow, what's mooth thing?
Speaker 3 (49:44):
No, I know, it's like no one was begging, but
it got like such good reception. The reason why I'm
giving it two point eight honestly is for the fact
I do love reading, even though I'm kind of hate reading.
It's like giving us the reason to like Roaster for
like talking her and her land boyfriend at x y
Z restaurant and making out Union Square.
Speaker 2 (50:03):
So you know, no, I mean I appreciate that and like.
Speaker 4 (50:06):
That's huge of your gift to us. Cool.
Speaker 3 (50:10):
I hope we didn't alienate kind of the bunny community.
Speaker 2 (50:14):
Yeah, let us know in the comments and we will
see you next week.
Speaker 4 (50:18):
Okay, see you next week. Freakazoeds fast fast. This super
silly episode of Celebrity book Club was Stephen Italy.
Speaker 3 (50:28):
Was produced by Darby Masters, who is a bunny I
used to own for Lop Lop.
Speaker 4 (50:35):
It was supervising sorry blah word jumble.
Speaker 3 (50:40):
The supervising producers aboot A Zafar, who is my ex boyfriend.
We were together for seven years, then he coasted me
and then we got back together for another six then
I broke up with him because I just like.
Speaker 4 (50:52):
Felt like he didn't really see me.
Speaker 3 (50:55):
Executive produced by my first bunny, Christina Everett. The theme
song is done by Stephen Phillips Horse who's this like
Brad musicianist at Coachello Ones, who also ghosted me. Artwork
by Teddy Blanks is another guy who ghosted me.
Speaker 4 (51:10):
Oh Ultimate Ghosting.
Speaker 3 (51:12):
Yeah, originally co created this podcast for pro Projects.
Speaker 4 (51:16):
We were together for two years.
Speaker 3 (51:17):
Then I found out they had many many wives. So man,
I'll just say that anyway, write us on Apple podcasts.
Speaker 4 (51:28):
I heart app Wherever you get your shoes
Celebrity.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Really, there was a long line over there. Thanks for
not getting weirded out at a girl going to the
bathroom on a day. Some guys can get kind of
weird about that constance.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
I'm not like other guys. I actually thought you were
taking a dump, which I thought ultimately was a hilarious
move to pull during a second day in the West Village.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Oh my god, you are absolutely crazy. I've never heard
someone be so honest and straightforward.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Before you bring out the side of me that's so
freaking silly.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Wow, Okay, Professor Durpenstein.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
I feel like with you, like when I tell you
I'm struggling at my teaching job at NYU.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
You really get it. And you listen to me.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
When I talk about how I must struggle lean actress
going to auditions for Best Buy commercials in Midtown. You
don't think, Hey, that's stupid. She's never gonna make it.
Maybe she could be in a commercial one day, but
she'll never be doing Shakespeare in the park. You think, wow,
she's cool, or I don't know, maybe you don't.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
I'm sorry, no, just stop. You look so sorry. This
is like two for it.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
You just look so like sexy when you doubt yourself,
don't you close your eyes and your left eye flutters nervously,
and then you get this sparkle and then you do
this thing with your hands that's so cute, and they
shake a little, and then your left like also starts shaking,
and I don't know, sorry, I'm.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Can I tell you a secret please? I just kind
of had a flash of what your penis looks like.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
Conston.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
I know, I'm so weird. That was so inappropriate. I
should never say that to a guy. I'm sorry, So
can I ask? It seems like a really nice size.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
Do you want to feel its size?
Speaker 2 (02:05):
I kind of do. Ah, that's so weird of me.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
Touch it?
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Oh my god. Wow, it reminds me of a nice
three day old, stale focaccia, just kind of hard but
kind of soft at the same time.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
Come on me, I want to show you someplace. I'll
get the check.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
That's really gentlemanly of you, But I don't need you
to get the check.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
You could totally pay.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
I'm a feminist, but I don't have to.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
Be, so I okay, I will pay then.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
Cool.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Honestly, I didn't even notice that you would or would
not have paid. It doesn't matter to me.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Oh well the check was actually a lot. Okay, it's
actually not a problem.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
But no, no, no, I got it. I got it was
just like more than I expected.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
That's totally cool. I'm just really struggling right now in
my acting career, so I don't really have the.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
No, no, no, I wasn't asking. Yeah, no, it's that's totally fine.
It's just like whoa New York City. If you're in,
you're you can still be shocked by the prices.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Who's that knocking at the door.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
It's all your friends, you filthy whorse. Your husband's gone,
and we've got books and a bottle of wine to kill.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
It's Hollywood, it's books, it's gossip.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
I'm sure it's memoir.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
It's Martini.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Celebrity poof club to read it while it's hot, celebrity
poof club.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
I'll tell your secrets.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
We won't talk celebrity books.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
No boys are a loud celeto say it loud and
poud celebrity book club.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
Buzz me in.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
I brought the queer foe hey by friend. How the
hell are you.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
Live in my life? Lovita Loca? In New York City,
things are crazy.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Yeah, it's a wild, wild city.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
Okay, this morning, I'm so random.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
I was taking a shower like hot and sexy, and
I got out of the shower and I couldn't turn
the water off, Like I had turned one knob off,
but the other one kept on going and I was
trying to turn it but it was like stuck because
I had like turned it too hard.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
And we all know everyone's shower is totally unique.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
You know you have a showered ed yc one.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Anyway, I had to like go running for my super
to find him and being like, hey, sorry, I showered.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Like wait, and you're like in a towel. I mean
I did get in the towel wrap and so like
the manny petty things like on the toes.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Like shaving cream everywhere, being so nineties, like my in
laws are coming over and my shower.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Won't turn off, and your apartment's flooding and all your
dildos are floating, They're.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Floating everywhere, and then my landlord's all my dildos and
was so embarrassing.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
My landlord like did pull my dildos off from under
the sink, like somewhat recently when he was fixing a leak,
and I think he just didn't notice them because they
were in like a tupperware box.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
It's funny that you keep them. I feeling under the sink.
That's such a I feel like area for mold.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
And we'll get into dildo keeping safety in the VIP lounge.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
We'll be having our friend on Janet who is an
expert in toy upkeeper and just.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
How to keep things dry, sanitary and uh ready to go.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Uh No, I mean, I guess I keep them in
there because sometimes it's just more like that's where you
rinse the toys and then they kind of go back
in there. I'm not so like dildo and lube and instead
of the bad you know that. I have a huge
issue with people who have the industrial Loube pump on
the side of the bed. I don't really use all
the stuff that often anyway.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
What about in a drawer would you be anti well?
Speaker 2 (05:44):
I famously don't have any drawers in my bedroom.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Let's say, maybe like a fellow folk you know, and
did this, I had some loub in a cool small drawer.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Tastefully if it was in another container within the drawer,
I would say that's tasteful. But just loose in the
drawer and lubes getting all over like quarters and hair ties, Like.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
It's not that, but it has a strong cap, a.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Wrong cap, but it's still getting like sticky on the side.
There's no way that it's just like perfectly fresh and clean.
And you're telling me that it's quarters and hair ties
and loop.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Well no, I mean I do have a huge like
lesbian toolbox of toys in my closet, and then there's
like mom, close your ears, like blube blues, quarters, old
credit cards, rosaries kind of drawer happening for easy grab use.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
I just like try to avoid that. So that's why
I have the box that's just like the dildo, the loop.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
You know, bedside George disgusting under my like ridgewood, like
moldy sink that sanitary.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Call me old fashioned, but I think like sexual things
should be privd especially in a small apartment, people are
always like going into your bedroom.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Yeah, I mean, if I have a cat sitter, like
things are getting cleared out of the drawers to the toolbox,
I get all my cats that are literally like from
the body listeners.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Now they're going to go rummaging for your toolbox.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Lily when I cats it half In the past, that
was always the first thing.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
You look in the bedside, Georgia, see what the toys are? Yeah,
because you're usually catching for lesbians once.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
I yeah, Cat's at for a queer couple, which was
super awesome for me.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
And that was years ago.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
And I do they listen to the pod and they're
not going to know that you found her toys.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Their current lover does know. Okay, so yeah, we actually
read a book this week.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
We read a book by someone who totally is into sex. See.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Yeah, someone who's like totally sex positive, but Alto was
like quirky about sex.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Yeah, she's I guess I.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
Didn't know she was such a sex quirkster.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Yeah. I mean quirkster is the right word because she's
definitely not like kinky. But as she says, she loves Peanie.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
You know her never from the blockbuster known as Crazy
Rich Asians.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
You may also know her from the j Loo Joint Hustlers.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
That got totally snubbed at the twenty twenty one Oscars.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
You know her from six seasons of these sitcom freshfsh Off.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Boat Ladies and Gentlemen and Folks, Constance and whoo woo
and her book making a scene.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Wow, this book.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
Wow. I didn't know kind of what was coming, I'll
tell you that.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Yeah, I mean at a certain point we listened to
the audiobook. We listened to it on this interminable drive
back down from Vermont in the eclipse traffic. So by
the time you hear this, you guys will be like,
what the eclipse, But you're like, what is this seventeen Yeah,
when totality happens, the only thing that's total is the traffic.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
Yeah, ten hour drive. Oh and by the way, had
no OX.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
So we were just listening to it off my beautiful
speakers on my not even a JBL my iPhone, just.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
The phone iPhone thirteen on the center console.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Which is an insane way to listen to a book.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Yeah, as you're just in like absolute dead traffic in
any nine, I don't know. She's just like so fucking nerdy, dirty,
dirty Corney the horny theater girl. I was like, this
is the most like insufferable theater goal where like to
the extent that she makes Anna Kendrick look like Jemima Curry, like,
(09:39):
she makes Anne Hathaway look like Courtney Love, like she
is so weirdly like childish, and the way she speaks
is actually it's mind blowing.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
I have said to audio Roll because when I did
go to one of our favorite institutions in New York City,
the library, and take out the book reading, it was
a like calmer experience then like hearing her audio.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
But I'm glad I got the audio because you want.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
To hear her be like and then he would shake
his penis after work and we would play the silliest
games after sex, and then I would kiss his flaccid
penis on the head and then we may get tie
takeout and watch really bad movies.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Like that is not an exaggeration. Like what you're saying
is exactly what the book is, like the first chapter,
and I would say maybe half these chapters are just
about her like kind of dating random guys, and you're
just like, wow, I guess this is like an interesting
kind of piece of color. You're gonna really this will
teach a lesson or something, and you're like kind of
not really, but like the whole first chapter is about
(10:46):
like this relationship. She was in New York and she's
always in the West Village. She's always been in restaurants
and they would pretend to have fights at restaurants and
he was the mader d and I was a waitress
and like she is kind of speaking like this, like you.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
No, it feels like the whole thing is when someone
does a skit of.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Like what a mid borderline Daria character.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Two thousands annoying, like Indie rom com is about. Did
you see that Anne Hathaway movie where she like has
stomach Why do girls and movies.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
Always have stomach cancer?
Speaker 3 (11:22):
By the way, she's like bipolar or has like some
cancer that is like not curable. And like she starts
dating j Jillenhall and she lives in a really raw loft.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Not seen this at all, but sounds like it's up
my ouse.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
Yeah, I mean you would love it. And she's like, sorry,
I'm just sick, and I live in the most raw.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Beautiful loft in the world.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Is my loft.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
This book has ver all these scenes and I think
I thought the beginning when she's talking about this like
guy Rob, like, oh okay, this is gonna be the
one relationship right as you said, that teaches her a lesson,
But it's like more a series of her dating guys
and I feel like, honestly that I'm breaking up with
her because she's annoying.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Yeah, that's kind of like the low key like subplot
of the book as just being like and it didn't
work out any more of the cost country and I
was so her and I try not to think about him.
So I went on another audition for a part that
I didn't get, and she's just always being all about
it and then just speaking in this very baby voice.
(12:28):
I mean, I think the other overarching plot of this
book and her career, like that I did kind of
know before I read the book, was that she has
a either desire to be more of a prestige actress
or a delusional sense that she is more of a
prestige actress than she is, and so like always butting
up against that. I mean, the cover of the book
(12:50):
is very interesting. It's a very chic. It's a very
she cover, and it does make you think that you're like, oh,
she's like a really like sexy important like contempt artists.
It's like helvetiko wo and then making a scene under it.
And it's just black and red, which are two of
the most important colors in graphic design because they're the
most so tension grab powerful, stark, powerful colors. And then
(13:15):
it's just like the way her hair comes down, it's
almost like it's very kind of like religious almost, the
hair like comes down into this one kind.
Speaker 5 (13:22):
Of shit feels very religious but also political, yes, and
you're like, wow, this this is gonna be a religious
political tone by one of the most important contemporary artists
of our time.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
And it's like, no, it's actually kind of a dirty
relationship diary.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
I feel like she's trying to be kind of like
Cidaris esque a little. There were some of those stories
that I feel like should have happened earlier in the
book that I did find interesting about, like her parents'
marriage and how like Hollywood always like assume that like
she based her Fresh off the Boat character off her mom,
and that like everyone was like, well, you must have
had like such a tiger mom that was like always
(13:59):
making you practice math, and she's like, actually, no, Like
my mom was kind of just like fab and like
taking me to Applebee's and just like them, like taking
me to movie auditions and like divorced. My father was
mad that he didn't get a sectomy, and I thought
that was kind of like more of a interesting family essay.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
That essay was also included this very kind of quirky
very Sidarus asked peace about how her mom would like
break into these unsold houses in the development in like
North Carolina, which is like Virginia or sorry, Virginia not
to be regionalist.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
Regions today, not today, but this.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Very poignant little meditation on American suburbia and that kind
of like the scale of these uninhabited places. I think.
Also one of my other favorite kind of suburban y
essays was doing the beginning the bread essay, which I
thought was actually like interesting tea.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
That actually was huge tea.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Where it was all about how she was working with
this bakery as a teen, and then there's this new
bakery comes to town called good Ingrain, and like she
just a good job of like describing this like new
aesthetic of this kind of more.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
It's like basically like a live Laugh Love chain with
like big rights.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
She works for like the old school one.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
And everyone starts going to the Live Laugh Love Mall
bakery even though they don't even mill their own flower,
can you believe them? But then they go to business
because like the owner is.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
Like dating one of the like teen Bakery.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Like Groomy one of the teen bakers, who's also the
hot popular girls in school, that constant who was jealous.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
It really was being like lifetime movie about that.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
But I was into that story, but like, I don't know,
those are happening, but they don't really add up to
anything more because then there's just also so many essays
about her, like dating random guys just to even really
talk about like crazy rich Asians. No, I guess it
leads up to this because it's kind of I guess
a me Too book. I guess is the one, like it.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
Leads up to a me too.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
And I feel like she's not trying to be like
my Rise to Fame. It's way more of a fresh
off the boat and like feeling okay with yourself and
like reconnecting with your mother.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Right and also just like being really annoying and what
like what it's like to just like be annoying. But
it was interesting that she's, like you said, like her
mom's not a Tiger mom because which also you need
to read and I'm halfway through and you've been.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
Halfway through Tiger.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
I can't read it because you've been halfway through for
about nine years.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
You need a tiger mom to.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Can you finish? Finished? Before she been admitted, I was
because read the book, I was like, you know, it
doesn't sound like her mom is a tiger mom because
she is a goodie two shoes. She is like a
good student kind of and like she brags for an
entire chapter about how she wrote this amazing essay with
this other teacher thought she plagiarized, and like there's a
lot of her like bragging about how she's so smart
(16:49):
and ran the like campaign of her friend for like
student counsel and her friend won just because she rewrote
her speech and like she made all her campaign posters
and came up with the whole concept and like she's
such a genius. But like it's definitely not coming from
the mom pressuring her, because I know.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
That's her point of just being like the don't assume
I have this like crazy tiger mom just because like
she's a time when using immigrant.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
But she also then like in that way when she
says don't assume, she calls out this New Yorker writer
who was writing the profile of her and is like,
and she clearly wanted me to be the child of
a tiger mom, soho would fit her narrative, but I'm
not going to fit into her narrative. And I was
reading the New Yorker profile and it's not such a
piece of gotcha journalism, like it is actually like kind
(17:34):
of making her sound a lot more interesting than she is.
Was it a review of No, it's just a profile
of her and like about how she's Like.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
So what did the New Yorker say about her?
Speaker 2 (17:44):
I mean, okay, I'm not gonna lie, Like I didn't
read the whole thing because it's long and it's.
Speaker 4 (17:49):
Not a fact checkable pod where just you.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Know, but like even the beginning, it's like there's this
sense of her trying to be more prestige than she
is and she's doing some indie movie and she's just
been like the character needs to be like less sexy,
Like they're only making her like this because men want
her to be sexy, and like I should be wearing
less makeup in this scene. And that's kind of how
the piece, Like that's how they like introduce her of
being kind of like pushy about this thing and just
(18:13):
being like, oh, she's such an artiste and like she's
such an auteur who's so in control and like wants
things to be authentic, but it's sometimes it's just like
for some random movie no in a scene that to
me is just like the ultimate tension of just being like,
you have this chic, artistic cover and you're trying to
be so like, I'm an authentic go Tourna will not
just be sexy in a random movie because a guy
wants me to. But ultimately, I guess I.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
Will give it to her though, like she kind of
knows she is not like which again is also a
little bit her humble bragging, Like, so she has this
whole thing about there are stars who.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
Are the golden ones, who are.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Let's say maybe and an half away or something like that,
or you know, someone who walks in and gets the
role instantly, and she's like, I'm not a golden one,
and I'll never be a golden one, And like I
had to like beg my agents to allow me to
like audition for Hustlers because they said I should just
get an offer. Then I wrote to the Hustlers director
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and I got that audition and then I got the role,
and like the same thing for Cressy Jason's and they like,
you know, changed the schedule around for me.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Can we talk quickly about both those two movies, because
those are two movies that I've seen Sam Cool.
Speaker 4 (19:22):
I mean I loved her in Hustlers.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
I did love her in Hustlers, but like she wasn't
like the movie for me, you know.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
If there's something about that movie that and this is
why I didn't win the Oscar is like something was off.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
It was two lifetime in this way, like it just
wasn't totally there.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
Yeah, like it wanted to be prestige but also like
sexy but indie but like sex positive but also still
like Jaylo walking down the streets and fur.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
I kind of think it's a little bit like this
show Euphoria, which is the only show that I've seen
like one episode of, But it's a little bit like
why is the show trying to be like a crazy
like trippy like d drug romance but also like teen
after school drama and it's the grassy but it's traffic
and it's a little bit like pick One, And I
feel like Hustler's suffered from that tonally.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
It either should have been even like campier because it
did have some very fun campy parts and they all
like trained for a year like with strippers, and it
should have been campier or like more serious and more
fucked up and had that more Oscar thing where it's like,
oh my god.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
But I do think that Constance in a way that
Jlo does too. They're kind of similar this way where
it's like they both want to be too like pretty, yeah,
and it's like ironic that she's trying to not be
pretty in them New York a piece. It's like Cardi B,
I think would have actually been better in the Constance role.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
I mean, Cardi B would have been amazing on the Consots.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Role because she was really funny the two seconds used
in that movie. But Cardi B also like literally is
a stripper and like does have fake tits and is
a little bit more like that vibe, right, and.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
It's not like actress girl like studying. What is just
so funny about Constance when the theaterness of.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
Her is that she just like is that girl.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
That like gets the role and then is like I'm
actually going undercover in Method this week and it's like
at Tish and it's like, hey, guys want to come
to a strip club in New Jersey with me this weekend,
like I'm actually researching like drug runners, and she's like
going there.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
And she's getting when she gets there.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
And she's like, ah, yeah, I'll have a tequila ice
and is like getting kind of a sexy outfit from
Forever twenty one, but something is off and then is
like okay, let's go.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Yeah. It's like no, she works very hard and never
really lets loose at all, and like is just like
completely the most uptight goody two shoes that you can imagine,
and so that comes through even when she's like pretending
to be gritty. It's just like it feels like more
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of a pretense, right, I don't know. I mean she
made more sense of crazyerc agents, although I just kind
of thought Crazy Rich Agels was boring. Sorry really yeah,
I like Fellows sleep watching.
Speaker 4 (22:11):
And I loved Crazy Rich Asians.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
I also part of me was upset because when I
first heard about Crazy Rich Asians, I thought I was
gonna be about these like badass, like sexy rich teens
in Singapore.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
No, you were disappointed. You wanted to be.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
More about like a crew of like nine batties, like
being so credit cards.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Yeah, and like always like stealing Daddy's credit card and
just like I thought it would be more like Hustlers. Honestly,
just like where's the coke? Where's the credit cards?
Speaker 4 (22:40):
Well make that movie, babe.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
No I know. If anyone needs to make the movie
about just like four badass like rich Asian Chicas taking
over Sanza, it's me.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
And then you send an offer to Constant Woo and
you're like, I don't know if you heard my podcast
where I.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Want to part your memoir instead that you're annoying, but
I think that you could redeem yourself.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Cet Celebrity book Club.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
Let's talk about her in crazy rotations and the kind
of the Fresh off the Boat cancelation her me too
and kind of all that.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Okay, let's just get the plot out of the way.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
It was just a little plot here, okay, little housekeeping.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
So she's doing Fresh off the Boat, which I remember
when it came out because I like love situational comedy.
I was like, oh, I'm going to watch this, and
then didn't. But I did watch like two episodes last night,
and I was like, there's just something about like a
new sitcom she was. I did have some singers in
it and like, I felt like her character was being
kind of fun, but I don't know the sitcom for me,
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it was just too sitcom in like a too recent
way that was just not personally hitting for me.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Yeah, I mean so all I met. I watched a
trailer for Fresh off the Boat yesterday. That was the
amount of research I did, And I did have to
say this was saying it before. So she got flack
initially for doing like a Chinese immigrant accent in the show,
and I just I don't buy I know that she
literally is like a second generation or first generation, I
forget which where you start counting, But I do find
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the accent a little bit, and I, you know, as
someone who is not fully Asian. But I'm like, I'm
not totally buying it. It does seem a little bit fake.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
Well, I think it ULTI might be with the stiltedness
of the sitcom.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Because it's like so sickcommy.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
Yeah, feels like a little weird.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
It's also one of those single camera right, it's not
shot in front of the studio, NaNs. Theer is in
like a laugh track, right, yeah, there's no laugh track. Yeah,
I don't know, I get it. I don't know, I
think that like Margaret Chow not to pit Asian women
against each other, but I think market just take.
Speaker 4 (24:59):
You beating them against each other.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
Also, what is okay? I feel like a lot of
people at the time in the show where it's like, oh,
there's never been a sickom but like All American Girl
was in nineteen ninety six or whatever, and that show
was so funny.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
Well, I think the point was that it's All American
Girl lasted for not even a full season, and they're
talking about Fresh off the Boat lasting for six seasons.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
No, in America wasn't ready.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
America wasn't ready. And I mean, as we know of
reading all Murgat show stuff, she wasn't even happy with
how they did do All American Girl. No, she was
like so angry at like what they made her do
and like.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
The plot right, and they thought they were making her
be too just like walk jokes right.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
And this was like so like critically well received.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
What Fresh off the Boat Yeah, And.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
I was kind of like, okay, So I don't know,
it's just like a sick calm.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
I feel like it's kind of medium. I feel like
it's more like people are like we acknowledge it as
like a milestone. Yes, it's more getting kind of milestone credit.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
Than it was being more milestone. And I feel like
I don't.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Think anyone's put In on their list of besta cooms.
Speaker 4 (26:01):
Like it literally was like it won like all these
Critics Choice Awards.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Because everyone is desperate for a Critics Choice Award.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
I mean, you'd be pretty happy if you had a
Critics Choice Award.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
People want the Emmys, they want the like Saga Ward or.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
Whatever, so if you got one, you wouldn't care.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
I would literally would throw it in the Okay, But basically,
so did you like it was a funny sounds like.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
I was enjoying it and I watched two episodes. I
wouldn't watch more, but I was like she was being
funny in it, and like she was being kind of
like sassy to her husband, and she had this whole
plot with her like white best friend on the show
about like theater and like diet.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
Well, this is this thing about her And I think
this applies to Anna Kendrick too, is like you can
be like super weird and nerdy and uptight and then
it's somehow like in this almost scientology way, just like
works when you're trying to be funny, even though like
you would probably not be funny as a person to
hang out with and have a conversation with.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
I mean, I think this andestly applies to most actors.
Is like how you can be like that's why you
are funny or have good timing. It's like you can
be kind of blank and then like go into the role.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Yeah, okay, So there's this whole chapter. The longest chapter
in the book is about how she was continually sexually
harassed by a producer on Fresh off the Boat that
she refers to as m And she does not name
his name, but if you go on or at it,
it's pretty clear that it's this guy, Melvin Maher, who
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is still working and is like producing more like Netflix
shows about.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
It looks like he produces that show The America Phil
about the creator of Everybody Loves Raymond Eating.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
And he's also doing this Disney show called prom Packed.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
No, I mean, he's working.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
And the whole thing about her me Too is basically
like she had agents and stuff, but really kind of
like he convinced her that she had to rely on
him for kind of like all like official things and
you know, he abuses power and was always like, oh, no,
you can't go to a table read. You have to
do this, and like her agents would be like, no,
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you don't have to do that, and he'd be like,
don't listen to them. And then there's this one time
where he takes her to a basketball game and it's
kind of just a lot of inappropriate things combined together.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Yeah, he's feeling her up at the basketball game and
just kind of generally being creepy and just being like
you need to come with me, you need to do this,
like you should do that, and just kind of being
very demanding and implying. And then he's like says this
thing where he's like, I can fuck any Asian American
actress I want.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
And this is like after he gets her like a
custom T shirt at the Nike store that seems insane.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
But what does it say on this shirt? That's what
I would didn't worry. She doesn't say doesn't reveal with
the shirt.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
So they go to this Lakers game and she's like,
I'll only go if you get me like beard hot dogs,
and then he gets mad at her and really poudy
that she's not paying attention to the game just a
little bit, like have you heard like girls in sports?
Speaker 4 (29:03):
Like right, he was mad that she wasn't.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
I mean, he's upset because she's not like learning with
him and like.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
Yeah and being like, oh my god, I can't believe
we're almost courtside the Lakers. So then he starts like
texting someone else and he's being like yeah, any like
young Asian American us were like fuck me. And then
she like plays guy's girl to like smooth things over.
And then in between that, he goes into the Nike
store and he's like, have you ever been to the
Nike store?
Speaker 4 (29:27):
And she's like, I've been to a Nike store, not
this particular one.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
That was one of the funniest was I went to
a Nike store.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
And he goes in and clearly they're like doing some
from whatever promotion where you get probably just like a
Lakers T shirt and you can get something printed that
says like I went to the Lakers game.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Yeah, or does it just say her name on it
or something like I thought it was gonna be something
like totally inappropriate.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
Right, like I have big titties and I went to
the Lakers game. And then she leaves, and she is
impressed by the T shirt, and he keeps something like
send me a selfie, send me a selfie, and she's like,
I hate selfies.
Speaker 4 (30:05):
I think they're so narcissistic.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
And that's like her excuse to not send a selfie,
and then she does, but it's like a really tame selfie,
and then the next day he's like, you should have
sent sexier selfie. And now he's uncancelled, and here's just
a photo of him getting a shoulder massage from John
de Mayor out of Private I'm in Ocotobra.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
So basically, at some point she's just like fuck it,
like I'm gonna say something. Oh, and there's like another
woman who's like you should go to HR, and she's
like I won't. So then finally she breaks down. She
tweets about this guy, and the whole fresh off the
boat crew is actually really mad at her, but she
doesn't name him. Yeah, She just like says, like a producer.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Yeah, And so she kind of has this like anonymous
metoage and then everyone's pissed at her, and then a
former colleague of hers dms her and tells her that
she like destroying the Asian American acting community and she
needs to shut her damn mouth. And she also doesn't
say who that person is, but Lily has a theory,
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so I haven't.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
I mean, this could be she says, basically a former colleague.
And this happens right after she shot Crazy Rigasians. Then
I went to this guy's Instagram and then he's at
like this table with like Philip Limb and like Michelle Yao.
And I'm like, did Michelle Yao DM her? And was
like you need to shut your trap?
Speaker 1 (31:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (31:27):
I mean I think Michelle Yo was like, oh yo, bitch.
Speaker 4 (31:31):
Yeah, it's is zip Bet is she dming?
Speaker 2 (31:34):
Though Michelle Yo Dming does seem like a stretch.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
Now, I'm just like, maybe it was someone like a
little bit younger or not like.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Her, Like Michelle Yo doesn't run her own Instagram message.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
She's not going to messages being.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Like no, she has an assistant who's like responding to
things for her.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
She's like, actually, give me back my iPad, I need
to DM constants.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
So maybe it was just like somebody else like who
is not that far.
Speaker 4 (32:03):
Right, who is just like I feel like you shouldn't
do this. And then she tries to kill herself and
it's kind of sad.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
But well, so then there's this other thing where so
then Fresh off the Boat gets like renewed, and that
d she tweets that she's just like, oh damn it,
like I'm so pissed. Then she said that that was
about something else, that it wasn't about Fresh off the
Boat getting renewed. It was just like she meant that
she couldn't do a different project. And then it was like,
you're so ungrateful for being on this important show that
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is somewhat critical claimed but mostly acknowledged for being a milestone.
And so that's.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
About why women can't be annoyed that they're still in
a six year sitcom one camera contract.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
Yeah, I mean I'd be furious if I was on
an ABC sircum for six years. I would be so funny.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
Furiously, even if you were raking in, I feel like
you would just be like, what the fuck?
Speaker 4 (33:00):
I want to go to copenhau Get No.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
Literally, I would just be like, I'm not doing this anymore.
I'm going to Copenhanger and I don't care.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
And then like some like Silver Daddy would be like
you need to do a German American photo shoot.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
No, and then all of these other like Chicago gay Nurses,
which being like so ungrateful for this opportunity.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
This show has made gay men seem really cool and responsible,
and you're just throwing that out.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Goh, so maybe we think it's not yet. Maybe it's
not yo, because she's not dming.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
Unless she is being so your mom and just like
getting out the iPad and being like, pull up Twitter
DM consonants.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
No, there's no way she's got two million followers. She's
not running her own messages.
Speaker 4 (33:51):
No, I think, yeah, it is someone random.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
I don't buy it, And then.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
Constants like delivers this like massive apology to like her
cast and like her on screen children.
Speaker 4 (34:02):
When she gets back to the sixth season.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
I also there's something about I just want to talk
about her writing style for a second, Like I wrote
down some of the more egregious sentences where you're just like,
is this for four year olds? This sentence? Asian Americans
use the word assimilation a lot. It's kind of a
fancy word for fitting in.
Speaker 4 (34:23):
It's like, why are you saying a fancy word?
Speaker 2 (34:26):
Why are you thinking that your reader, your adult reader
does another word assimilation, and then this part killed me.
New York City could make you feel invincible, like any
shit you got could be given right back to this
shit giver. This is why I was just like, oh,
she's insane. She's actually completely insane. I don't know if
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I can.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
And it's just for thinking like she's being so like
New York girl writing an essay. But in New York
the only cars I ever road were in cabs back
when I live there, cabs and have TV screens.
Speaker 4 (35:01):
Cab fair was only paid in cash. It's like, okay,
Patti Smith.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
No credit cards. Cabbys didn't make conversations, Smartphones hadn't been
invented yet. All you had were your thoughts and the windows.
I loved and looking out cab the windows at night,
it was so dreamy to watch. I mean, it is
just like SJP, but like that writing was better. It
was so dreamy to watch the city worrying by and
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wondering about all the lives it held.
Speaker 4 (35:29):
Moved me.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
But it wasn't the fancy, touristy places that moved me.
It was the plain stuff, the bodegas and the Dwayne reads,
the city banks with their fluorescent atm alcoves bars where
patrons smoked outside a closed news stand with its metal
accordium shadrawn and locked. I dates protecting darkened boutiques with
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the shoes still.
Speaker 4 (35:51):
Glowing in the display.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
I look at all and marvel, Wow, I live in
New your city, curious.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
Jail, jail directly to jail. Not is there anything more romantic?
And just like the patrons at the bar, just like okay, alien, Yeah,
but it's also her being so milady and methinks, and
just like h methinks, the patrons enjoy their five mins
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and libation.
Speaker 4 (36:26):
And there's the part.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
Where she's like referring to some like boyfriend where she
was like, once we got kicked out of every place
we went that night.
Speaker 4 (36:35):
But it's kind of for like logistical reasons.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
She's like the first place because the restaurant was closing,
the second because like the bar was also closing, and
you're like, okay, So it's more just like brag about
like going to places past when I am. Don't get
me wrong, I would do the same thing too. If
I was like telling you about a date, I'd be like,
we were there, oh.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
We closed the place down. There was one sentence that
I did actually think was kind of like noticeable writing
where she was talking about how you can tell like
I loves you that love usually starts from the center
of the face and melts the corners of the eyes downward,
and I was like, oh, that is kind of true.
That is maybe a beautiful way of describing.
Speaker 3 (37:21):
That's the romantic and you falling in love and a
city bank alcove.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
I do love to fall in love at ATMs. I've
actually made out with a guy in the alcove of
a Citizens Bank one oh so on Boston. It was
actually on Myrtle Avenue Bridge.
Speaker 4 (37:37):
There's a Citizens Bank on Myrtle.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
Yeah, wake up, we have everything. It's all going down
in Queens bit I us.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
I liked the part about her parents and I was
kind of I was, yeah, moved by that and just
kind of their different personalities.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
And I was not moved by the hour long chapter
where she talks about this guy that she is like
kind of a fuck buddy and then said though he
has a girlfriend, and then she's like looking at the
girlfriend on Facebook and she's like, she had a beautiful smile.
Her shoulders looked like they would have freckles. You're just like,
what the fuck are you talking about, bitch?
Speaker 4 (38:16):
Oh my god, it's your.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
Metamoor has a nice smile.
Speaker 3 (38:19):
Oh Gilmore girls, And she talks about like how she
was like and that night I drove to San Diego
and we had a big, fat dinner and then had
mediocre sex.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
Yeah, the fat dinner and mediocre, which we didn't mind
because we'd already had good sex before and we knew
each other well enough to have mediocre sex and we
could tell jukes about it, your.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
Jokes, And she's like, and then we went to a
diner and sat and did a crossword. In that moment,
you can stay in your silence with someone you're sleeping
with and it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
And I guess the kind of point of that entire
chapter is to be like, men aren't trustworthy because it's
the sort of broader me too narrative, and she's been wronged.
Speaker 4 (39:02):
Who do you think that is?
Speaker 3 (39:03):
Because it is this actor, but he sounds very like
someone who is an agent's of Shield or whatever, like
someone who's in ch.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
I think we're recognizing any of the like vague Network
stars are on her show that's on for eleven seasons.
Speaker 3 (39:15):
She knows and she's just like yeah, and like we
could just talk. But he was married and he and
then I ran to him and he was fat and
he tried to go home with me and I was like, no,
you can't, fat man.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
No, and he was like I got fat. And she
was just like, oh my god, I didn't notice. I
totally noticed. So she's kind of fat phobic.
Speaker 4 (39:40):
Yeah, that's fucked up. You canceling her.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
We really need to call her in about that.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
Crazy What does she what does she wear?
Speaker 4 (39:58):
How does she live?
Speaker 2 (40:00):
Okay, how does she live? Did you catch the part
where she says she has a fucking pet rabbit?
Speaker 4 (40:04):
Did I catch you? You mean the entire chapter about
her pet rabbit. I was just like, I mean, quirk alert,
quirked up.
Speaker 3 (40:14):
And she's like, and now I'm not the crazy bunny lady.
I'm just a lady with a bunny.
Speaker 4 (40:22):
Here's the thing. And let me go off on pet
rabbits first.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
No, man, go off, because I'm gonna let's both go off.
You go first.
Speaker 3 (40:29):
I think rabbits are really cute, no doubt when I
see them on Instagram with the huge floppy ears. And
you go to the state Fair and there's like a
crazy one and it's called like mistressurflops a lot, and
like it's like, oh, this is the Richardson flops in
and you're like, well, that's so cute disgusting to own
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a bunny.
Speaker 4 (40:50):
The shit pellets are everywhere, and the.
Speaker 3 (40:52):
Cage and the water bottle thing and the again pellets.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
It's the pellets.
Speaker 4 (40:59):
First of all, it's for me, suys.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
It's the palace for me, says you're feeding a palace,
but it's shitting out these little.
Speaker 4 (41:03):
Palats and it's just like which, it's NonStop.
Speaker 2 (41:06):
There's the fucking sawdust is everywhere, rattling the cage, rattling
the bottle. To me, the rabbit owner, it's always a
girl who's like desperate for you to think that she's
like so idiosyncratic and such a freaky girl. But it's
like you're actually a girl who like has a really
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messy bed.
Speaker 3 (41:27):
I knew a girl like this makes so much sense.
The girl I knew in college who like did get
a bunny was like a hot, free spirited kind of
like stoner painter sculpture question mark girl.
Speaker 4 (41:41):
Yeah, and you're like, yeah, of course you have a bunny.
And here's the thing.
Speaker 3 (41:45):
It's like the cage is get's cute when they're She's like, oh,
they come up and they want to be pat and
they but they're pausing you and then you're putting back
on the cage.
Speaker 2 (41:54):
It's kind of like messy girl who's like trying to
quit smoking but doesn't write poetry, you know what I mean.
Where it's like, where's the export, where's the product here?
Speaker 3 (42:04):
Well, it's just now I'm just like I'm giving it
to this girl who had the buddy in college because
she was so camel lights and I'm just like, I
guess you fit the bill.
Speaker 2 (42:12):
Yeah, But was she creating art that's gonna outlast her?
Was she creating art for a generation?
Speaker 4 (42:17):
Definitely not. But I feel like I don't want her
to in this way.
Speaker 2 (42:20):
You just want her to be messing girl with money.
I was just like, what's the point. I just like
it's gross.
Speaker 3 (42:26):
I'm just like, get adds up. Like, I don't think
actually anyone like if.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
You're raising rabbits outside for food, I think that's totally chill.
Speaker 4 (42:34):
Yeah, and that you're a different type of quirked up.
Speaker 3 (42:36):
Yeah, that's just like you're a farmer and freaky and
same thing with parrots.
Speaker 4 (42:43):
Parrots are cool.
Speaker 2 (42:44):
Parrot is so Aids parents is so palm spring so
Fort Lauderdale, sixty five year old.
Speaker 3 (42:52):
The entire alternative pet community is going to come for us.
Speaker 2 (42:56):
I know. But if you own a bird, it's just
so gay, gay gay palm springs. It's huge oriental fan
over the bed.
Speaker 4 (43:05):
Well which I once had.
Speaker 3 (43:06):
I'm just thinking of this house I cleaned once that
like had parrots, and like they didn't clean and there
was so much like shit behind the cage on the wall.
Speaker 4 (43:15):
It's disgusting anyway. In Constance is like I was so like.
Speaker 3 (43:20):
Manic about my like cleanup, but like now I'll only
do their little box like once a week.
Speaker 4 (43:25):
Basically, she's already.
Speaker 3 (43:27):
Grieving her bunny dying in this book, and she's like,
and I know bunnies only lived till ten.
Speaker 2 (43:32):
But here's the thing is she's so bunny because she's
actually not that co It's like she's quirked up in
a way that's so like annoying but not actually like
esoteric or like weird, because she's so West Village slash
like Williamsburg coated, like she's so white sneakers and Chanel
crossbody bag and made Well jeans.
Speaker 3 (43:51):
And currently wearing my maid Wees cropped white T shirt.
She defines a cropped white T shirt made Well, and
I think the Bunny gives her that because she also
talks about like how alt she was in high school
and like listening to Annie and Tori. So it's like
the Bunny lets her kind of still have that badass appeal.
Speaker 2 (44:15):
Yeah, even though again in style wise, as I said,
white sneakers.
Speaker 4 (44:19):
Yeah, what is she wearing? Yeah, it's like white sneakers.
Speaker 3 (44:23):
I think, like, you know, when she's getting clamped up,
it's kind of like just.
Speaker 4 (44:28):
I feel she's not.
Speaker 3 (44:29):
I mean, maybe I'm wrong, like taking so many risks
on the red carpet.
Speaker 2 (44:33):
I don't think she's a red carpet I not. And
I think that she's wearing like a Marquesa whatever and
she's just wearing the most normal stylist dresses.
Speaker 3 (44:41):
She seems to me one of those girls, tried and
true New Yorkers who wear the New York Yankee but
MoMA edition hats.
Speaker 2 (44:49):
I think that's a more modern girl would wear that.
But she's so like proudly elder millennial and always bragging
about how she had like a corded phone in her
dorm room.
Speaker 4 (44:56):
But I feel like I only see like elder millennials wearing.
Speaker 2 (44:59):
Those in New York. She's like no longer like a
New Yorker, so that's.
Speaker 4 (45:02):
Why she would wear it. Like she's one of the
people who's like she's.
Speaker 2 (45:05):
Carrying a regular regular like Yankees bucket.
Speaker 3 (45:11):
No Yankees bucket, Okay, vote in the comments she yanks.
Speaker 2 (45:17):
Because she's like she's going to the farmer's market to
buy like one leak that she's not going to cook.
Speaker 3 (45:22):
She's just so much more soft forty seven brand or
MoMA Yankees or Mets hat versus.
Speaker 4 (45:30):
Maybe she has like one bucket.
Speaker 2 (45:31):
Hat, but I think she's wearing bucket.
Speaker 3 (45:34):
I think, but I definitely think she has the moment Yankees.
She has a bunch of hats, like, no doubt there's
a bucket in the collection.
Speaker 2 (45:41):
Okay, I think.
Speaker 3 (45:42):
She's one of those girls that wears New York merch
in LA.
Speaker 2 (45:46):
Yeah. Actually, because she's so anakndrac, maybe she's actually a
little bit more beret flash train conductor hat because she
like is theater girl and she's actually more suspenders and
she does have like rail like train conductor hat and
maybe like railroad striper shorts.
Speaker 4 (46:06):
There's not a hat in sight. She is now married though,
to like a rocker, so.
Speaker 2 (46:11):
That's even more suspenders.
Speaker 3 (46:14):
He's in suspenders. She's doing as she a lot of
these like bangs.
Speaker 2 (46:20):
Okay, here's the question. Is she Buddha?
Speaker 4 (46:23):
Well she literally goes to a Buddhist retreat, so yes,
oh wait she does. It's at the end.
Speaker 3 (46:32):
I was so bored, and yeah, she like applies to
go in this Buddhist retreat and like she's just being
so girl in bet in the ol word, and she
goes in the silent retreat and she's like, we ate
her meals aga in silence.
Speaker 4 (46:43):
And I actually think it's so fucked up now.
Speaker 3 (46:45):
Like how people like scroll and eat and like it's
actually so beautiful to eat slowly. And then it made
me think, like should I do a Buddhist retreat for sure?
Learn how to eat slowly, unfold my trash really perfectly,
Like could I just wonder if I could handle it?
Speaker 4 (47:06):
Push myself, you know.
Speaker 2 (47:07):
I mean to not talk to shut your yapper for
a week. Pretty tough.
Speaker 3 (47:11):
Well, they had talking when they could talk in the
morning at the American breakfast buffet, then in silent for
the rest of the day.
Speaker 2 (47:17):
Oh, I think that comes doable.
Speaker 4 (47:19):
Yeah, I feel like that would work for me. Morning talk.
Speaker 2 (47:22):
Yeah, you kind of get through words out and then
move on.
Speaker 4 (47:26):
Who are you in the book? Are you Constance?
Speaker 3 (47:32):
Like going to Dublin taking a bus and like going
to Dublin to meet this guy. She dates this guy
and then they break up and he'll never commit. Then
they get back together and she goes to Dublin to
meet him and being like, Hey, I'm in Dublin.
Speaker 2 (47:48):
I feel like I would go to Dublin and I
would post like a selfie being like I'm in Dublin
and like wait for him to respond, right.
Speaker 4 (47:55):
I don't think you would show up instantly and.
Speaker 2 (47:57):
Text him no, because that's the same.
Speaker 3 (48:00):
I feel like I am one of her teen on
screen sons that she's like apologizing to for tweeting and
I'm just being kind of like, okay, I don't care.
Speaker 2 (48:10):
Yeah, Or when she apologizes for writing the word penis
a lot and this is her like me too, Maya Kulpa,
where she's like, I know I'm like me tween everyone,
but like I have to admit that I did have
a nasty habit of writing the word penis, and it
was an inside joke with me and myself, but some
people were made uncomfortable by that, and their discomfort is
(48:32):
no reason for me to continue making thee And you're
just kind of.
Speaker 4 (48:36):
Like, it's this whole full chapter.
Speaker 2 (48:38):
It's a full chapter. And she's like humble branging about
how fucking weird she is and crazy and dark that
she wrote the word penis on like pieces of paper
in a notebook, in a notebook when she was like
on set.
Speaker 3 (48:51):
So you're that actually, I mean you actually are the
one like drawing, like nasty drawings.
Speaker 2 (48:58):
I feel like writing and someone's being like that made
me really uncomfortable.
Speaker 4 (49:03):
And you're like, but I'm random, and.
Speaker 2 (49:05):
I'm being like, but I'm random. I'm absolutely not istuming
an apology to that.
Speaker 6 (49:08):
Pa Okay, yeah, like two point eight.
Speaker 3 (49:21):
Rusted generous out of five. I'm being kind of generous.
Speaker 2 (49:26):
Somebody's feeling really nice today. Samta got up on the
right side of the bed. I'm giving this one out
of five like rabbit pullets. I'm just like, this is
a book that did not need to be written, Like
wait till the end of your career, then write the
book everyone's waiting for. Wow, what's mooth thing?
Speaker 3 (49:44):
No, I know, it's like no one was begging, but
it got like such good reception. The reason why I'm
giving it two point eight honestly is for the fact
I do love reading, even though I'm kind of hate reading.
It's like giving us the reason to like Roaster for
like talking her and her land boyfriend at x y
Z restaurant and making out Union Square.
Speaker 2 (50:03):
So you know, no, I mean I appreciate that and like.
Speaker 4 (50:06):
That's huge of your gift to us. Cool.
Speaker 3 (50:10):
I hope we didn't alienate kind of the bunny community.
Speaker 2 (50:14):
Yeah, let us know in the comments and we will
see you next week.
Speaker 4 (50:18):
Okay, see you next week. Freakazoeds fast fast. This super
silly episode of Celebrity book Club was Stephen Italy.
Speaker 3 (50:28):
Was produced by Darby Masters, who is a bunny I
used to own for Lop Lop.
Speaker 4 (50:35):
It was supervising sorry blah word jumble.
Speaker 3 (50:40):
The supervising producers aboot A Zafar, who is my ex boyfriend.
We were together for seven years, then he coasted me
and then we got back together for another six then
I broke up with him because I just like.
Speaker 4 (50:52):
Felt like he didn't really see me.
Speaker 3 (50:55):
Executive produced by my first bunny, Christina Everett. The theme
song is done by Stephen Phillips Horse who's this like
Brad musicianist at Coachello Ones, who also ghosted me. Artwork
by Teddy Blanks is another guy who ghosted me.
Speaker 4 (51:10):
Oh Ultimate Ghosting.
Speaker 3 (51:12):
Yeah, originally co created this podcast for pro Projects.
Speaker 4 (51:16):
We were together for two years.
Speaker 3 (51:17):
Then I found out they had many many wives. So man,
I'll just say that anyway, write us on Apple podcasts.
Speaker 4 (51:28):
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