August 28, 2024 • 20 mins
What's it like when you discover you are the red flag in the relationship? Our cheating story takes place in Japan with lots of twists and turns. Ultimately Jared learns his lesson - the hard way.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Sometimes there are so many flags in a relationship that
you're looking to hold up a white flag.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Our next guest finds out he is that red flag.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
We usually ask, like, what the red flags are that
you could have seen coming up to the moment, But
with you, I think you created them.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Yeah, I'm the red flag.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
I was.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Yeah, I'm not gonna lie to you.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Guys.
Speaker 4 (00:25):
Hey, guys, this is Shoddy Diaz and I'm Kay Robards.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
And this is cheaters and backstabbers.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Hey, listeners, we are back with an exciting new episode,
and today's guest is one of the nicest, funniest, one
of our very favorites, the one and only Turbo Mister
what Jared Waters, I.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Like you said two times. I'm like Jared Jared Warrial.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Good to see y'all. I guess a nice place. I
like you to look at that.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
From the Bronx to North Carolina shout out to the.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
North Carolina's still kind of north. But we take it.
We say it, thank you, appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Including please, Oh my gosh, it's so funny because I
just think of you as like, you know, married man,
best husband. You and your wife are going to Egypt,
you and your wife are like traveling the world.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
You got stories. In Paris, you got stories.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
And now I'm like, there was never a time before
and I'm to think of you, the nicest person in
the world, having some kind of treacherous, scandalous story.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
How long have you been with your wife now?
Speaker 5 (01:33):
Twenty twelve? Twelve years? Okay, twelve years. But I was
active in the streets before then. You gotta think about too,
Like my dad was in the military, so we lived
around the whole world. So when you're an American man
around the world, it's a different type of access that
a lot of people aren't used to. So just like
beautiful women from around the world, they just loved American
(01:54):
especially black dudes. They were just like whatever it was.
So they were just always like coming up to us.
And then I lived in your and Netherlands. So like
all of the girls I've dated, looks like those pictures
of like the Neanderthals going to like that's what it
looks like. So every year gets greater, respectfully, you know
what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Like every time of life, it's always.
Speaker 5 (02:13):
Been like beauty and beauty and beauty. I've always averaged
triple doubles. Does that make sense.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Oh, yeah, we've seen your wife.
Speaker 5 (02:18):
Yes, that's what I tell my wife, Like, yeah, before
even before, I was like, there's always been consistent tens.
That's what it's been. It's just some people just have
an eye for something, you know. I'm just blessed to
be outside this week thing.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
All all are beautiful, you know, everything from the inside
except or well, my grandmother tell me, if you know
this Southern phrase, pretty is it's pretty does, and then
she would follow it up with you are ugly because.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
If you do something bad.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
So this is like for the cheaters and backsbers, pretty
is it's pretty does.
Speaker 5 (02:46):
So I don't care if you're a ten. I feel
like that the tins are the hardest ones. They got
the craziest stories because they got the different types of
options and stuff like that, especially internationally because it's a
language barrier and everything that you're stupid. And I was like, nah,
this looks wild in any country or any language.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
It is.
Speaker 5 (03:04):
So yeah, that was that was me out there, And
then when I got back to America, I was just
at a culture shock because I wasn't used to, like
in the Netherlands, like prostitution was legal, so a lot
of the women didn't like you taking them on dates.
You pay your way, I pay my way. We're going Dutch.
So when I got back here, I was like the
people ask me for dates. I was like yeah, And
I was like, how come, y'all don't got your wallets?
What's going on while y'all, like I thought you were
(03:25):
supposed to pay it, Like I'm not supposed to pay
it like you in the South. Now you need to pay.
So it's like in a cultural adjustment, like seeing what's
happening with like dating wise.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
So dating wise, we know you spent your high school
years in Japan.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
That must have been amazing. But what was it like
to date in Japan. I was in Japan.
Speaker 5 (03:43):
I was in Japan, and I was dating this uh,
this nice woman, and I remember so. So all the
bases are set up in different places, so like, uh,
back in the day, there wasn't every every base had
just like I lived in Tokyo. So Tokyo is known
for like we had like Hispanic women and we had
black women, and Atsugi had all the Filipinos.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
So I me and this Puerto Rican woman we started dating.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
This is in Japan.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
This is in Japan.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Yeah, you're international Internet like in every way.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (04:11):
Yeah, I just realized, you know, I can come back
to America and get an American. But when I was
out there, I was like that, even though I found
a Puerto Rican in Japan, but uh we were dating,
and then I left to Atsugi, and in her mind,
I went to Asugi to go chase some Filipino women
and I was, but I wasn't actively chasing them. I
was just party and that's why I was used to.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Party real hard.
Speaker 5 (04:31):
So when I got back, everybody was like, hey, man, Shoult,
i'll say that. We'll just say Jay is like, hell man,
I think Jay was being promiscuous and I was like.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
What so I missed a couple of steps.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
So you one of the things that we learn is
like the DTR right, the defining the relationship. Yes, like
sometimes that doesn't happen, and that is a moment when
you know it goes down because they're not on the
same page. So you are clearly seeing this person maybe
or you think so.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
They think, so you.
Speaker 5 (05:01):
Were hiding something from me. You know what time it is,
it's herbo time, you you know what time it is.
If it's a secret, then what's a secret for if
it's not a secret, why should I know what things?
Speaker 3 (05:09):
So it wasn't a relationship, No, we were in a relationship.
We were in a relationship established. Yeah, it was established.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
How is that stuff?
Speaker 3 (05:16):
I brought her a jersey dress? You know how much
those jersey dresses were about those lost heads like.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Carolina?
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Remember, Yeah, I had the matching jerseys and stuff like that.
I'm like sixteen seventeen.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
That's a good gift.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
At that time, we knew Riley got starburst in college
for her.
Speaker 5 (05:34):
I went down to Korea and got a match in
a throwback jersey and she had the jersey dress. So
I spent that, spent all my hard summer money for that.
So we knew what time it was.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
How did you ask her out?
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Like?
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Walk us through the best days of the relationship, when
things were good? What was amazing?
Speaker 1 (05:49):
If you're in these streets meeting all these women, you know,
make us feel the love?
Speaker 3 (05:53):
And why hurt? I remember what sold me out?
Speaker 5 (05:57):
A football game and and I wasn't even stablished. She
put my number on her cheek, Like when I walked
into my locker, She's like decorated.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Your football number.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Yeah, I was like Dann's the phone number to put
on your cheek, you know what it's like when that's
a big deal. So she gets like, what's your jersey number?
Speaker 5 (06:14):
And I was like that and then after she put
the jersey number and it's like I had no other choice.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
I was like in the stadium and I was like,
who's that girl wearing your jersey.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Number on her face?
Speaker 5 (06:22):
She put it like on her cheek and then she
like decorated my locker. Then all the boys are like, yeah.
I was like, it's time, so I had to.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
That's real cute, came official.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
That's real Florida.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Yeah, that's real straight southern, like when you played football.
That's that.
Speaker 5 (06:34):
That's that that southern bell that you had. And once
she did that, then it was it was a wrap.
All the crew knew, all the boys knew.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
So weird. That's when it became like official.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
It's like the old time again. They say you.
Speaker 5 (06:43):
Pinned them, you know, yeah, yeah that's what she she
put the hook in. That's that's really so you she did.
She shot her shot, She shot her shot. Cupid shot
me in the heart. Yeah, it got me, freaking that
was it. She freaking got me. And then so we're
just you know, high school date whatever. Then after I
didn't reallyate. I was just really on the street streets.
But this has propelled me to the streets. And then, uh,
(07:06):
I remember.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
The one who cheated on you?
Speaker 5 (07:08):
She is yes, okay, first one that ever cheated.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Yeah, this is the story.
Speaker 5 (07:20):
This is this is I think this story like changed
me forever because when I found out, just the homies
were just like, hey man. I saw her like on
the west side and I live on the west Side.
I live on the west Side, but everybody knew I
was gone. So uh then I was like, so this
is you know some of the just like small bass.
Everybody's like, hey man, she messed with old buddy and
I was like then I just confronted her. I was like,
did you do it? And she was like yeah, And
(07:41):
then I was like ef it. So then I had
to find her. I was like, I gotta fight him. That's
what I have to do. For him to disrespect me,
I gotta fight him. So I called up my boys.
I'm like, he's on the west side. So I went
over to the west side. Then he went to the
east side. Then you just actively just running away from
me and then uh, you know, you write a letter
and stuff. I wrote a letter of all my emotions
like you, I can't believe he is bla da da da.
And then then I like, I ripped it up because
(08:02):
I could. I couldn't face myself. I'm going out like
a sim So then I so I found his address
and I just pull up to his house.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
So I pull up to his house, beat on the door,
and his dad's like, oh, he's not here.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Are you alone at this point? Are their friends with you?
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Yeah? It was a whole bunch of people with me.
Was I was gassed up. I was gassed up. My
boy marks up, He's liked many just go over to
his house. I know where he lives.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
You're not driving around somebody else is driving because I'm.
Speaker 5 (08:26):
Catching a bus. I was catching a bus. I was
catching I was catching a bus thirty minutes that way,
thirty minutes that way, and I was like, man, where
is this dude?
Speaker 3 (08:34):
And then they're like he's hiding.
Speaker 5 (08:36):
And then I told called my boy, cha, Marks, you
live out there, tell me if you see him, and
he calls it go he's right there. So I catched
a bus and cell phones, No, this is we didn't
even have himselves.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
This is like house phones. It still like housephones.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
You see somebody run somewhere.
Speaker 5 (08:48):
So I'm like stopping at different places using collect like yoo,
answer the phone.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
So they finally answered the phone. And then I went
over there and they found him.
Speaker 5 (08:56):
They found him, like I said, hold him down. When
I get there, they found he finally got him. Then
I walked up to him. He was like shaking and scared,
and then like he apologized to me. Then I was like,
you know what, man, I can't even blame you. I
know she's that bad.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Huh. He's just like he was saying, he goes, yes,
she is.
Speaker 5 (09:14):
I would have did the same thing. And then after that,
I said, don't do it again because I know where
you live. And then after that I just used it.
I felt bad because it's my toxic waste. I just
used it to get out of situations that I wanted
to do after that, because I just had one over.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
You know, it's just like you stayed with her. I
stayed with her a long time.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Yeah, so that's how beautiful she was.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
She's flying. He said she was bad. Back to the bristle.
Speaker 5 (09:37):
But it was like but it was to the fact that,
you know, when you got something over somebody, it's just
like it's a leaf hanging over your head. So it
was never like good because I was like every time
of argument, I would just.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Go back to that.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
What was her excuse?
Speaker 3 (09:50):
She thought I was in Atsuki just doing what I
was about to do.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
So what is the rule where it's like it stays
in not Sugi. What happens in not Sugi stays in
not Sugi.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Yeah, I didn't even do anything on SUVII. I was
went because you're old.
Speaker 5 (10:02):
Yeah, I just I was just like big into partying.
So she is like assumed like I was about to
go out there. I just never did. So like the
whole relationship was me like giving her intentions of thinking
I was gonna cheat, but I never cheat.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
So it's like the paranoia then. So that was how
bad I was, you know.
Speaker 5 (10:21):
So after so afterwards it was just like me just
reminding her and just doing that like that. So beginning
to the point where like I became like the pest.
I just bring it up in different like any argument.
I hain't no cheater, and she's like, are you gonna
bring that up?
Speaker 3 (10:34):
And I was. That was the type of that was
the type. I was just petty.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
I'm just like a petty No, the cheater becomes the backstabber.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
Yeah, I feel like the worst thing.
Speaker 5 (10:43):
It felt like I cheated the way I was just
always doing different things or just like I remember, I
would make up different like pages and stuff like that,
and just make up chicks from different locations, writing me
different stories and.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Go back wait wild I got I got in trouble,
I got spinning off something.
Speaker 5 (11:03):
So I was like stuck at the house and I said, man,
she probably gonna be back on these streets. So h.
So I was making all these different profiles when Zango
was big, and I had like five different chicks, is right,
But I just made up five different pages.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
So everybody, right, that was all of them.
Speaker 5 (11:16):
So now like meet me at the commisara if you
want to fight, And next you know, it's like fifteen
girls showed up and everyone showed up and I start
browing like and then she and I was like dang,
and everybody called me, like yo, your girls about here
fighting me. They trying to fight these chicks for my
tu gas Like dang, the chicks from Zama about to
be there, and I was sitting in my house like, yeah,
that's how I planned it.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Yeah, oh my god.
Speaker 5 (11:34):
I mean she like had her hair rolled up, and
everybody showed me pictures like like digital cameras are big
and they're like, yo, mane out here fighting for you.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Man. I said, that's wild.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Man.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
I was sitting just at home creating the whole thing
and creating five more chicks.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Is this when you knew you're like, I have a
flair for the dramatics.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
I always really want to hurt people. I want them
to like it's all in my head.
Speaker 5 (11:53):
I was in I was on punishment watching nothing but
One Tree Hill, So that was like my life. I
was sitting there just creating all these characters, and I
was just like, I just love I'm not I'm a
petty but I'm actually I'm like those romantics at the
same time.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
I like that.
Speaker 5 (12:07):
I like drama, you know what I'm saying. I like
this shake it. I like the drama, like the flair
like everything else. I remember just her pulling up to
me saying like, I don't want you hanging out this hick.
She girls my neighbor, and I would just start hanging
out with my neighbor and I was like just to
just to make her man. I was like, you know,
you don't trust me, and I was just like yeah, man, it.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Was well, you were creating Sim's characters.
Speaker 5 (12:27):
Now, this was that they had some in real life,
so that all the chicks that she had problems with,
I was just befriended. I was just befriending on purpose,
just to like throw it in her face. I remember
I pulled up to her house at like two o'clock
in the morning. It's like, come inside, and I was like,
somebody's sleeping there.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
I know who's in. It was her dad. I was
like oh.
Speaker 5 (12:41):
I was like, oh, but yeah, that was that was
I think there was some old player told me goes,
the protagonist in your story is really the is then
you're the antagonist in theirs, so like for the whole
for like the protagonists for me was that one. But
I was really the antagonist because I caused all this
mess by just doing even though I did truly forgive her,
I think I was just more hurt when I talked
(13:02):
to this therapist, like, you were just hurt that your
friend betrayed you.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
So that's your friend, the guy the guy.
Speaker 5 (13:08):
No No, I don't know who that was, but uh,
I'm talking about she was my friend, like my friend.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
But then after that it was just like pure loyalty.
Speaker 5 (13:16):
I remember my best friend try to get with my
girl at the same time, my best friend like my dog.
To this day, I was like on punishment and I
went to the movies and she called me. I was like,
why do I just stood her up at the movies
just to be petty. And then when I was at
the movies, my boy like slid in and like start
rubbing on her leg. And then she called me and
she was all like, She's like, I don't know where
you get. This is when she found out all the
profiles are fake.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
She was just like this.
Speaker 5 (13:36):
When she called me out, she was, I knew you
weren't in out, Sue. I knew you weren't with these girls.
Like why, she said, because your best friend told me
when he was trying to fill on my leg. And
I was like, oh my god, everybody was trying to
hit this the whole time.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Wait, so you were never in aunt, su Ye.
Speaker 5 (13:49):
At the end, I wasn't. I just kept saying I
was going just to be like going, and then at
the end you.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Were never in your life in atsu Ye never I was.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
You were just at home trying to make yourself seem.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
More interesting than I really was.
Speaker 5 (14:01):
I was on punishment for a thrown and I throwing
bacon powder on like things.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
I was like suspended for a while.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
You did what I got you.
Speaker 5 (14:10):
My friend did like a bomb threat and I like
put like anthrax on, like bacon powder on cars, and
my dad called me, so I was like, So, I
was like, uh, I was like in punishment for like
two weeks, and I thought the streets would just take
me in two weeks.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
But yeah, I remember that date, man, I was remember that.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
And in those two weeks you it.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Was like two months, but it was two I was
terrorizing the streets.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
You were. You were like, I can't. I can't be
grounded for andracks. I have to be in Japan, like I,
you're with these hoes? Were are you photo shopping? Are you?
Speaker 1 (14:40):
No?
Speaker 5 (14:41):
But the thing is I was out there. But the
thing is, for two weeks, I was on injured reserve.
I couldn't do anything. So it was just like everyone
knew I was out there, but like physically I couldn't
do it. So I was like, well, let me see
what I can do from like home, and when I
was home, that's when my boy the wolves came after her,
And that's when the wolves.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
Tried to take her. That's wild, I know.
Speaker 5 (14:58):
Shout out to the HOMIESE still cool with them. Yeah, well,
I mean we're boys. I mean, I you know everybody.
I mean it's pretty big. I mean it was pretty big.
We had like the biggest base, but everybody just knew
each other.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
So like military base. Her family is also.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
In her dad my dad was her dad's boss.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
That's a new level to it.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (15:20):
Yeah, so like when I met, like you know, when
families try to intimidate you, like they tried to intimidate
when they bring it to the house and the dad
tries to yell at you. And then he started asking,
like where does your dad work? I said, hey, where
do you work at? He goes, I work in the comscrush.
I was as crazy, So.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
Does my dad?
Speaker 5 (15:31):
He goes, He in the basement. I said, I think,
so you work in the basement. He goes, yeah, but
I knew where he worked. I said, no, my dad's
on the third floor cause your dad's a commander. I said, dang,
yeah it is my dad that they come out and
he goes, hey, jare you want some water? Yeah, let
me get some cold water if you got it, yeah, yeah,
put that rice on the stove too.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Oh my god.
Speaker 5 (15:49):
So yeah that was I mean, I remember that was
just like wild times. But I remember that was like
the first time like somebody like literally hurt me. And
after that, that was when I just start hurting people.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
I think hurt people, hurt people.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
So then I said I won read that Instagram was it?
Speaker 3 (16:03):
Yeah, I just went like a terra.
Speaker 5 (16:04):
So when I was in Florida, when I was in
North Carolina, when I was in the Netherlands, it was
just it was just World War three out there.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
We usually asked like what the red flags are that
you could have seen coming up to the moment, But
with you, I think you created them.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
Yeah, I'm the red flag.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
I was.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
Yeah, I'm not gonna lie to you guys.
Speaker 5 (16:27):
Like I feel like I feel like before before well
I think any before man like settled down for real,
like he has to like face the mirror, he has
to look at the man in the mirror for like
everything he's done in a test word, since like you know,
for me to be like a great partner to my lady.
I had to like bury the demons that I had
to do, you know, so like I apologize to my
ex like in twenty twelve, like I apologize for everything
(16:49):
I did. I you know, yeah, yeah, offered like Disney
World tickets and I go with you as a day no, no,
just just as a peace offer, like I apologize expensive.
I was working there at the time, so it was
so I overered Disney World tickets. I offered like a
lot of things that like make it for and I
think she's like, I just wanted an apology. And then
(17:11):
as soon as I said sorry, within like a two
months later, I met my current wife.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
See.
Speaker 5 (17:16):
So sometimes it's just like when you when you let
that that that hurd go, you know, then you're free
to like love again.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
You know.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
I just got chills.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
Yeah, I love that.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
What I think is so beautiful is like sometimes when
we've asked people or talked about the show, they're like
they think it's negative, but everyone we speak to like
when you forgive that was the best self or someone else,
it opens up the capacity for more love.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (17:42):
I think that was the best thing that ever happened
to me. I think that the best thing that ever
happened to me, just know like what betrayal felt like,
knowing what, knowing how the steps made, Knowing that a
man can't express himself, like I was hurt, but I
couldn't express myself, so maya instead of me just admitting
that I was hurt and I felt but I just
heard other people. So instead of me just hurting everybody else,
(18:03):
I was like, dang, I should have just asked for
forgiveness and I could have moved on, because the truth
was I did forgive her. I was just mad at myself,
you know, mad at myself that I couldn't that I
was embarrassed. Public shame is a big thing for me,
being embarrassed knowing that all my boys knew that, Oh
you got played. Man, this dude disrespected You're like, disrespect
the ego, all that other stuff. I gotta fight this dude.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
I didn't. I didn't.
Speaker 5 (18:22):
When I saw his eyes, He's like, man, I can't
fight this dude, man, because I would did the same thing.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
So so so figured out that point.
Speaker 5 (18:28):
Especially as a man, it's knowing like it's okay to
be heard, it's okay to say sorry, It's okay to
admit that you hurt someone. It's okay to realize that
you created this whole scenario in your head to get
back at somebody, and you weren't even nothing in their life.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
You weren't even the protagonist. They forgot about the story.
Speaker 5 (18:43):
I carried it on for like years, like a's plenty
of chicks I should you know, there's probably more pologies
I should do, but I mean, it's plenty. It's plenty
like college, you know, pretty I mean, but you know,
let the dust settle. But I'm pretty sure there's a
lot of chicks who realized, like that was never you
could never you love the idea of me, but you
couldn't would love me because I was never available, you know.
(19:04):
And then when I ask for forgiveness, when I apologize, I
went to like therapists, like have me in there talking.
And after that, like when I fully truly forgave myself
and her, then like boom, that's freaking bad brizzle from
Belize came up inside there at the next you know,
I shot my shot. A couple of years later, married
and throw that thing on it. That's what I did, respectfully,
you know.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
I love that story. That's so beautiful. Everyone should check
out your engagement video. Yeah, the best you did.
Speaker 5 (19:29):
You you did the thing right, you know, I think
I think the best the best dudes are hurt. The
best the best dudes got that simp life. And sometimes
it's good to be a self. You gotta simp for
a little bit, you know. And when you truly realize
that it's okay to say sorry, it's okay to like
to have your ego bruise and all that other stuff,
you'll find the woman that will support that ego. You'll
find the woman that put those those band days where
you were scarred up there.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
You know. Come on out, Jared, Dan, Jeremy, Jared.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
This is why we love you so much, Like this
is why you are. You radiate love and I hope all.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Of our listeners can hear that, feel that, and we
just want to thank you so much for coming on
today's episode.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
We'll do that.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
Yeah, thank you for having me.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Now, thank you so much.
Speaker 5 (20:12):
Shout out to everybody being cheating on you know what
I'm saying, you might change your life, you know what
I'm saying, Sorry, apologize.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Maybe in ten years you'll get free. Disney tickets and
let me know I got the hook of yeah yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Thank you all ladies for branding.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Thank you started Waters our dear friend.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
I'm Kate Robarts and I'm Shoddy Diaz and this has
been cheers and backsybers.
Sometimes there are so many flags in a relationship that
you're looking to hold up a white flag.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Our next guest finds out he is that red flag.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
We usually ask, like, what the red flags are that
you could have seen coming up to the moment, But
with you, I think you created them.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Yeah, I'm the red flag.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
I was.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Yeah, I'm not gonna lie to you.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Guys.
Speaker 4 (00:25):
Hey, guys, this is Shoddy Diaz and I'm Kay Robards.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
And this is cheaters and backstabbers.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Hey, listeners, we are back with an exciting new episode,
and today's guest is one of the nicest, funniest, one
of our very favorites, the one and only Turbo Mister
what Jared Waters, I.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Like you said two times. I'm like Jared Jared Warrial.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Good to see y'all. I guess a nice place. I
like you to look at that.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
From the Bronx to North Carolina shout out to the.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
North Carolina's still kind of north. But we take it.
We say it, thank you, appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Including please, Oh my gosh, it's so funny because I
just think of you as like, you know, married man,
best husband. You and your wife are going to Egypt,
you and your wife are like traveling the world.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
You got stories. In Paris, you got stories.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
And now I'm like, there was never a time before
and I'm to think of you, the nicest person in
the world, having some kind of treacherous, scandalous story.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
How long have you been with your wife now?
Speaker 5 (01:33):
Twenty twelve? Twelve years? Okay, twelve years. But I was
active in the streets before then. You gotta think about too,
Like my dad was in the military, so we lived
around the whole world. So when you're an American man
around the world, it's a different type of access that
a lot of people aren't used to. So just like
beautiful women from around the world, they just loved American
(01:54):
especially black dudes. They were just like whatever it was.
So they were just always like coming up to us.
And then I lived in your and Netherlands. So like
all of the girls I've dated, looks like those pictures
of like the Neanderthals going to like that's what it
looks like. So every year gets greater, respectfully, you know
what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Like every time of life, it's always.
Speaker 5 (02:13):
Been like beauty and beauty and beauty. I've always averaged
triple doubles. Does that make sense.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Oh, yeah, we've seen your wife.
Speaker 5 (02:18):
Yes, that's what I tell my wife, Like, yeah, before
even before, I was like, there's always been consistent tens.
That's what it's been. It's just some people just have
an eye for something, you know. I'm just blessed to
be outside this week thing.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
All all are beautiful, you know, everything from the inside
except or well, my grandmother tell me, if you know
this Southern phrase, pretty is it's pretty does, and then
she would follow it up with you are ugly because.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
If you do something bad.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
So this is like for the cheaters and backsbers, pretty
is it's pretty does.
Speaker 5 (02:46):
So I don't care if you're a ten. I feel
like that the tins are the hardest ones. They got
the craziest stories because they got the different types of
options and stuff like that, especially internationally because it's a
language barrier and everything that you're stupid. And I was like, nah,
this looks wild in any country or any language.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
It is.
Speaker 5 (03:04):
So yeah, that was that was me out there, And
then when I got back to America, I was just
at a culture shock because I wasn't used to, like
in the Netherlands, like prostitution was legal, so a lot
of the women didn't like you taking them on dates.
You pay your way, I pay my way. We're going Dutch.
So when I got back here, I was like the
people ask me for dates. I was like yeah, And
I was like, how come, y'all don't got your wallets?
What's going on while y'all, like I thought you were
(03:25):
supposed to pay it, Like I'm not supposed to pay
it like you in the South. Now you need to pay.
So it's like in a cultural adjustment, like seeing what's
happening with like dating wise.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
So dating wise, we know you spent your high school
years in Japan.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
That must have been amazing. But what was it like
to date in Japan. I was in Japan.
Speaker 5 (03:43):
I was in Japan, and I was dating this uh,
this nice woman, and I remember so. So all the
bases are set up in different places, so like, uh,
back in the day, there wasn't every every base had
just like I lived in Tokyo. So Tokyo is known
for like we had like Hispanic women and we had
black women, and Atsugi had all the Filipinos.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
So I me and this Puerto Rican woman we started dating.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
This is in Japan.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
This is in Japan.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Yeah, you're international Internet like in every way.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (04:11):
Yeah, I just realized, you know, I can come back
to America and get an American. But when I was
out there, I was like that, even though I found
a Puerto Rican in Japan, but uh we were dating,
and then I left to Atsugi, and in her mind,
I went to Asugi to go chase some Filipino women
and I was, but I wasn't actively chasing them. I
was just party and that's why I was used to.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Party real hard.
Speaker 5 (04:31):
So when I got back, everybody was like, hey, man, Shoult,
i'll say that. We'll just say Jay is like, hell man,
I think Jay was being promiscuous and I was like.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
What so I missed a couple of steps.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
So you one of the things that we learn is
like the DTR right, the defining the relationship. Yes, like
sometimes that doesn't happen, and that is a moment when
you know it goes down because they're not on the
same page. So you are clearly seeing this person maybe
or you think so.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
They think, so you.
Speaker 5 (05:01):
Were hiding something from me. You know what time it is,
it's herbo time, you you know what time it is.
If it's a secret, then what's a secret for if
it's not a secret, why should I know what things?
Speaker 3 (05:09):
So it wasn't a relationship, No, we were in a relationship.
We were in a relationship established. Yeah, it was established.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
How is that stuff?
Speaker 3 (05:16):
I brought her a jersey dress? You know how much
those jersey dresses were about those lost heads like.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Carolina?
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Remember, Yeah, I had the matching jerseys and stuff like that.
I'm like sixteen seventeen.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
That's a good gift.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
At that time, we knew Riley got starburst in college
for her.
Speaker 5 (05:34):
I went down to Korea and got a match in
a throwback jersey and she had the jersey dress. So
I spent that, spent all my hard summer money for that.
So we knew what time it was.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
How did you ask her out?
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Like?
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Walk us through the best days of the relationship, when
things were good? What was amazing?
Speaker 1 (05:49):
If you're in these streets meeting all these women, you know,
make us feel the love?
Speaker 3 (05:53):
And why hurt? I remember what sold me out?
Speaker 5 (05:57):
A football game and and I wasn't even stablished. She
put my number on her cheek, Like when I walked
into my locker, She's like decorated.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Your football number.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Yeah, I was like Dann's the phone number to put
on your cheek, you know what it's like when that's
a big deal. So she gets like, what's your jersey number?
Speaker 5 (06:14):
And I was like that and then after she put
the jersey number and it's like I had no other choice.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
I was like in the stadium and I was like,
who's that girl wearing your jersey.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Number on her face?
Speaker 5 (06:22):
She put it like on her cheek and then she
like decorated my locker. Then all the boys are like, yeah.
I was like, it's time, so I had to.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
That's real cute, came official.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
That's real Florida.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Yeah, that's real straight southern, like when you played football.
That's that.
Speaker 5 (06:34):
That's that that southern bell that you had. And once
she did that, then it was it was a wrap.
All the crew knew, all the boys knew.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
So weird. That's when it became like official.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
It's like the old time again. They say you.
Speaker 5 (06:43):
Pinned them, you know, yeah, yeah that's what she she
put the hook in. That's that's really so you she did.
She shot her shot, She shot her shot. Cupid shot
me in the heart. Yeah, it got me, freaking that
was it. She freaking got me. And then so we're
just you know, high school date whatever. Then after I
didn't reallyate. I was just really on the street streets.
But this has propelled me to the streets. And then, uh,
(07:06):
I remember.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
The one who cheated on you?
Speaker 5 (07:08):
She is yes, okay, first one that ever cheated.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Yeah, this is the story.
Speaker 5 (07:20):
This is this is I think this story like changed
me forever because when I found out, just the homies
were just like, hey man. I saw her like on
the west side and I live on the west Side.
I live on the west Side, but everybody knew I
was gone. So uh then I was like, so this
is you know some of the just like small bass.
Everybody's like, hey man, she messed with old buddy and
I was like then I just confronted her. I was like,
did you do it? And she was like yeah, And
(07:41):
then I was like ef it. So then I had
to find her. I was like, I gotta fight him. That's
what I have to do. For him to disrespect me,
I gotta fight him. So I called up my boys.
I'm like, he's on the west side. So I went
over to the west side. Then he went to the
east side. Then you just actively just running away from
me and then uh, you know, you write a letter
and stuff. I wrote a letter of all my emotions
like you, I can't believe he is bla da da da.
And then then I like, I ripped it up because
(08:02):
I could. I couldn't face myself. I'm going out like
a sim So then I so I found his address
and I just pull up to his house.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
So I pull up to his house, beat on the door,
and his dad's like, oh, he's not here.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Are you alone at this point? Are their friends with you?
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Yeah? It was a whole bunch of people with me.
Was I was gassed up. I was gassed up. My
boy marks up, He's liked many just go over to
his house. I know where he lives.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
You're not driving around somebody else is driving because I'm.
Speaker 5 (08:26):
Catching a bus. I was catching a bus. I was
catching I was catching a bus thirty minutes that way,
thirty minutes that way, and I was like, man, where
is this dude?
Speaker 3 (08:34):
And then they're like he's hiding.
Speaker 5 (08:36):
And then I told called my boy, cha, Marks, you
live out there, tell me if you see him, and
he calls it go he's right there. So I catched
a bus and cell phones, No, this is we didn't
even have himselves.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
This is like house phones. It still like housephones.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
You see somebody run somewhere.
Speaker 5 (08:48):
So I'm like stopping at different places using collect like yoo,
answer the phone.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
So they finally answered the phone. And then I went
over there and they found him.
Speaker 5 (08:56):
They found him, like I said, hold him down. When
I get there, they found he finally got him. Then
I walked up to him. He was like shaking and scared,
and then like he apologized to me. Then I was like,
you know what, man, I can't even blame you. I
know she's that bad.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Huh. He's just like he was saying, he goes, yes,
she is.
Speaker 5 (09:14):
I would have did the same thing. And then after that,
I said, don't do it again because I know where
you live. And then after that I just used it.
I felt bad because it's my toxic waste. I just
used it to get out of situations that I wanted
to do after that, because I just had one over.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
You know, it's just like you stayed with her. I
stayed with her a long time.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Yeah, so that's how beautiful she was.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
She's flying. He said she was bad. Back to the bristle.
Speaker 5 (09:37):
But it was like but it was to the fact that,
you know, when you got something over somebody, it's just
like it's a leaf hanging over your head. So it
was never like good because I was like every time
of argument, I would just.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Go back to that.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
What was her excuse?
Speaker 3 (09:50):
She thought I was in Atsuki just doing what I
was about to do.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
So what is the rule where it's like it stays
in not Sugi. What happens in not Sugi stays in
not Sugi.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Yeah, I didn't even do anything on SUVII. I was
went because you're old.
Speaker 5 (10:02):
Yeah, I just I was just like big into partying.
So she is like assumed like I was about to
go out there. I just never did. So like the
whole relationship was me like giving her intentions of thinking
I was gonna cheat, but I never cheat.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
So it's like the paranoia then. So that was how
bad I was, you know.
Speaker 5 (10:21):
So after so afterwards it was just like me just
reminding her and just doing that like that. So beginning
to the point where like I became like the pest.
I just bring it up in different like any argument.
I hain't no cheater, and she's like, are you gonna
bring that up?
Speaker 3 (10:34):
And I was. That was the type of that was
the type. I was just petty.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
I'm just like a petty No, the cheater becomes the backstabber.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
Yeah, I feel like the worst thing.
Speaker 5 (10:43):
It felt like I cheated the way I was just
always doing different things or just like I remember, I
would make up different like pages and stuff like that,
and just make up chicks from different locations, writing me
different stories and.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Go back wait wild I got I got in trouble,
I got spinning off something.
Speaker 5 (11:03):
So I was like stuck at the house and I said, man,
she probably gonna be back on these streets. So h.
So I was making all these different profiles when Zango
was big, and I had like five different chicks, is right,
But I just made up five different pages.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
So everybody, right, that was all of them.
Speaker 5 (11:16):
So now like meet me at the commisara if you
want to fight, And next you know, it's like fifteen
girls showed up and everyone showed up and I start
browing like and then she and I was like dang,
and everybody called me, like yo, your girls about here
fighting me. They trying to fight these chicks for my
tu gas Like dang, the chicks from Zama about to
be there, and I was sitting in my house like, yeah,
that's how I planned it.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Yeah, oh my god.
Speaker 5 (11:34):
I mean she like had her hair rolled up, and
everybody showed me pictures like like digital cameras are big
and they're like, yo, mane out here fighting for you.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Man. I said, that's wild.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Man.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
I was sitting just at home creating the whole thing
and creating five more chicks.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Is this when you knew you're like, I have a
flair for the dramatics.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
I always really want to hurt people. I want them
to like it's all in my head.
Speaker 5 (11:53):
I was in I was on punishment watching nothing but
One Tree Hill, So that was like my life. I
was sitting there just creating all these characters, and I
was just like, I just love I'm not I'm a
petty but I'm actually I'm like those romantics at the
same time.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
I like that.
Speaker 5 (12:07):
I like drama, you know what I'm saying. I like
this shake it. I like the drama, like the flair
like everything else. I remember just her pulling up to
me saying like, I don't want you hanging out this hick.
She girls my neighbor, and I would just start hanging
out with my neighbor and I was like just to
just to make her man. I was like, you know,
you don't trust me, and I was just like yeah, man, it.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Was well, you were creating Sim's characters.
Speaker 5 (12:27):
Now, this was that they had some in real life,
so that all the chicks that she had problems with,
I was just befriended. I was just befriending on purpose,
just to like throw it in her face. I remember
I pulled up to her house at like two o'clock
in the morning. It's like, come inside, and I was like,
somebody's sleeping there.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
I know who's in. It was her dad. I was
like oh.
Speaker 5 (12:41):
I was like, oh, but yeah, that was that was
I think there was some old player told me goes,
the protagonist in your story is really the is then
you're the antagonist in theirs, so like for the whole
for like the protagonists for me was that one. But
I was really the antagonist because I caused all this
mess by just doing even though I did truly forgive her,
I think I was just more hurt when I talked
(13:02):
to this therapist, like, you were just hurt that your
friend betrayed you.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
So that's your friend, the guy the guy.
Speaker 5 (13:08):
No No, I don't know who that was, but uh,
I'm talking about she was my friend, like my friend.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
But then after that it was just like pure loyalty.
Speaker 5 (13:16):
I remember my best friend try to get with my
girl at the same time, my best friend like my dog.
To this day, I was like on punishment and I
went to the movies and she called me. I was like,
why do I just stood her up at the movies
just to be petty. And then when I was at
the movies, my boy like slid in and like start
rubbing on her leg. And then she called me and
she was all like, She's like, I don't know where
you get. This is when she found out all the
profiles are fake.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
She was just like this.
Speaker 5 (13:36):
When she called me out, she was, I knew you
weren't in out, Sue. I knew you weren't with these girls.
Like why, she said, because your best friend told me
when he was trying to fill on my leg. And
I was like, oh my god, everybody was trying to
hit this the whole time.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Wait, so you were never in aunt, su Ye.
Speaker 5 (13:49):
At the end, I wasn't. I just kept saying I
was going just to be like going, and then at
the end you.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Were never in your life in atsu Ye never I was.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
You were just at home trying to make yourself seem.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
More interesting than I really was.
Speaker 5 (14:01):
I was on punishment for a thrown and I throwing
bacon powder on like things.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
I was like suspended for a while.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
You did what I got you.
Speaker 5 (14:10):
My friend did like a bomb threat and I like
put like anthrax on, like bacon powder on cars, and
my dad called me, so I was like, So, I
was like, uh, I was like in punishment for like
two weeks, and I thought the streets would just take
me in two weeks.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
But yeah, I remember that date, man, I was remember that.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
And in those two weeks you it.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Was like two months, but it was two I was
terrorizing the streets.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
You were. You were like, I can't. I can't be
grounded for andracks. I have to be in Japan, like I,
you're with these hoes? Were are you photo shopping? Are you?
Speaker 1 (14:40):
No?
Speaker 5 (14:41):
But the thing is I was out there. But the
thing is, for two weeks, I was on injured reserve.
I couldn't do anything. So it was just like everyone
knew I was out there, but like physically I couldn't
do it. So I was like, well, let me see
what I can do from like home, and when I
was home, that's when my boy the wolves came after her,
And that's when the wolves.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
Tried to take her. That's wild, I know.
Speaker 5 (14:58):
Shout out to the HOMIESE still cool with them. Yeah, well,
I mean we're boys. I mean, I you know everybody.
I mean it's pretty big. I mean it was pretty big.
We had like the biggest base, but everybody just knew
each other.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
So like military base. Her family is also.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
In her dad my dad was her dad's boss.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
That's a new level to it.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (15:20):
Yeah, so like when I met, like you know, when
families try to intimidate you, like they tried to intimidate
when they bring it to the house and the dad
tries to yell at you. And then he started asking,
like where does your dad work? I said, hey, where
do you work at? He goes, I work in the comscrush.
I was as crazy, So.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
Does my dad?
Speaker 5 (15:31):
He goes, He in the basement. I said, I think,
so you work in the basement. He goes, yeah, but
I knew where he worked. I said, no, my dad's
on the third floor cause your dad's a commander. I said, dang,
yeah it is my dad that they come out and
he goes, hey, jare you want some water? Yeah, let
me get some cold water if you got it, yeah, yeah,
put that rice on the stove too.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Oh my god.
Speaker 5 (15:49):
So yeah that was I mean, I remember that was
just like wild times. But I remember that was like
the first time like somebody like literally hurt me. And
after that, that was when I just start hurting people.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
I think hurt people, hurt people.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
So then I said I won read that Instagram was it?
Speaker 3 (16:03):
Yeah, I just went like a terra.
Speaker 5 (16:04):
So when I was in Florida, when I was in
North Carolina, when I was in the Netherlands, it was
just it was just World War three out there.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
We usually asked like what the red flags are that
you could have seen coming up to the moment, But
with you, I think you created them.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
Yeah, I'm the red flag.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
I was.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
Yeah, I'm not gonna lie to you guys.
Speaker 5 (16:27):
Like I feel like I feel like before before well
I think any before man like settled down for real,
like he has to like face the mirror, he has
to look at the man in the mirror for like
everything he's done in a test word, since like you know,
for me to be like a great partner to my lady.
I had to like bury the demons that I had
to do, you know, so like I apologize to my
ex like in twenty twelve, like I apologize for everything
(16:49):
I did. I you know, yeah, yeah, offered like Disney
World tickets and I go with you as a day no, no,
just just as a peace offer, like I apologize expensive.
I was working there at the time, so it was
so I overered Disney World tickets. I offered like a
lot of things that like make it for and I
think she's like, I just wanted an apology. And then
(17:11):
as soon as I said sorry, within like a two
months later, I met my current wife.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
See.
Speaker 5 (17:16):
So sometimes it's just like when you when you let
that that that hurd go, you know, then you're free
to like love again.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
You know.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
I just got chills.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
Yeah, I love that.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
What I think is so beautiful is like sometimes when
we've asked people or talked about the show, they're like
they think it's negative, but everyone we speak to like
when you forgive that was the best self or someone else,
it opens up the capacity for more love.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (17:42):
I think that was the best thing that ever happened
to me. I think that the best thing that ever
happened to me, just know like what betrayal felt like,
knowing what, knowing how the steps made, Knowing that a
man can't express himself, like I was hurt, but I
couldn't express myself, so maya instead of me just admitting
that I was hurt and I felt but I just
heard other people. So instead of me just hurting everybody else,
(18:03):
I was like, dang, I should have just asked for
forgiveness and I could have moved on, because the truth
was I did forgive her. I was just mad at myself,
you know, mad at myself that I couldn't that I
was embarrassed. Public shame is a big thing for me,
being embarrassed knowing that all my boys knew that, Oh
you got played. Man, this dude disrespected You're like, disrespect
the ego, all that other stuff. I gotta fight this dude.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
I didn't. I didn't.
Speaker 5 (18:22):
When I saw his eyes, He's like, man, I can't
fight this dude, man, because I would did the same thing.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
So so so figured out that point.
Speaker 5 (18:28):
Especially as a man, it's knowing like it's okay to
be heard, it's okay to say sorry, It's okay to
admit that you hurt someone. It's okay to realize that
you created this whole scenario in your head to get
back at somebody, and you weren't even nothing in their life.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
You weren't even the protagonist. They forgot about the story.
Speaker 5 (18:43):
I carried it on for like years, like a's plenty
of chicks I should you know, there's probably more pologies
I should do, but I mean, it's plenty. It's plenty
like college, you know, pretty I mean, but you know,
let the dust settle. But I'm pretty sure there's a
lot of chicks who realized, like that was never you
could never you love the idea of me, but you
couldn't would love me because I was never available, you know.
(19:04):
And then when I ask for forgiveness, when I apologize, I
went to like therapists, like have me in there talking.
And after that, like when I fully truly forgave myself
and her, then like boom, that's freaking bad brizzle from
Belize came up inside there at the next you know,
I shot my shot. A couple of years later, married
and throw that thing on it. That's what I did, respectfully,
you know.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
I love that story. That's so beautiful. Everyone should check
out your engagement video. Yeah, the best you did.
Speaker 5 (19:29):
You you did the thing right, you know, I think
I think the best the best dudes are hurt. The
best the best dudes got that simp life. And sometimes
it's good to be a self. You gotta simp for
a little bit, you know. And when you truly realize
that it's okay to say sorry, it's okay to like
to have your ego bruise and all that other stuff,
you'll find the woman that will support that ego. You'll
find the woman that put those those band days where
you were scarred up there.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
You know. Come on out, Jared, Dan, Jeremy, Jared.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
This is why we love you so much, Like this
is why you are. You radiate love and I hope all.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Of our listeners can hear that, feel that, and we
just want to thank you so much for coming on
today's episode.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
We'll do that.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
Yeah, thank you for having me.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Now, thank you so much.
Speaker 5 (20:12):
Shout out to everybody being cheating on you know what
I'm saying, you might change your life, you know what
I'm saying, Sorry, apologize.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Maybe in ten years you'll get free. Disney tickets and
let me know I got the hook of yeah yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Thank you all ladies for branding.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Thank you started Waters our dear friend.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
I'm Kate Robarts and I'm Shoddy Diaz and this has
been cheers and backsybers.
Hosts And Creators
Shari Diaz
Kate Robards
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