September 25, 2024 • 31 mins
In this episode of Cheaters & Backstabbers, comedian Paris Sachay continues her story of dating after her break up. Get ready for some twists and turns and one creepy date that lasted way too long.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hey listeners, We're back with another episode featuring my good
friend and comedian Paris Sasie. On our last episode, we
talked about her Christmas date breakup after being with her
partner for five years.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Today, we're going to talk about her dating life.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
After the breakup, the ups, the downs, and sometimes the
kind of creepy encounters she's had while putting herself back
in the game.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
So, like, do you think since that relationship have you
been like above it or like maybe you're protecting your
heart a little bit?
Speaker 4 (00:31):
And as far as I love, yeah, so no, I
haven't taken a woman serious enough since then. But I
have had women that I've had loved for and loved.
I wouldn't say been in love so deeply, but there
are women that I care about strongly.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
It's been a feel.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
I dated two women at one time, like once, I
hate it from it like.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
A year later.
Speaker 5 (00:59):
Hey, everybody, I am Kate Robarts and I'm Shotyds And.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
We are back with another episode of Cheaters and Backstabbers. So,
after your breakup, you ended up dating two different women.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Is that kind of like cheating or is it polyamorous? No,
not like that.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
They they two separate women, but I liked them equally,
and it was hard that I had to let one
of them go at some point because it was just like.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
I see, that's the reality TV show we need to see, yeah,
which is like that that hurt me though. Passport to
Paris is what I'm pitching the name for this, Like
it's a dating show where like The Bachelor, people just
day two, yes, and they have to have to have
their credentials and they'll go through us to get to
I feel like I'm down for that. That's not Passport
(01:46):
to Paris is the spinof.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Because I'm tired of day in so work. Were you
comparing them?
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Because you know, people do the pros and cons, so
you're dating two women at once.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
I wasn't comparing them, but they were working really hard.
So it was kind of.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
Like just when it got so good, like I got
to then this one which is like one up and
and it's like, ah, this is a lot.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
And we're both telling them about each other. I told
them both about each other in the beginning.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
But I think women have a weird way of like
once they like you to a certain level, they don't
care about the next person because to them, you will
cut them off eventually because of how good they are,
but I couldn't.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
They were both so, wait.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
You're one of those like I can fix them, which
they are. Yeah, they think that they can fix you.
And you're like, you're like challenge accepted.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Yeah, because I know that it's no price as long
as he.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
That's what And they was doing it. It was breakfast dinner.
It was like, well, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
What to do.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
They switch off shifts one has oh my gosh.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
Yeah, so that was fun for a while, and I'm like,
for you, I think they had though they both were
still able to get at least two to three date
nights then, and they knew what it was, what it
was they did. It was at some point I almost
try to convince the threesome. But then I was like,
I just don't think that's smart.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
She's like that there, like the says a song where
it's like the Friday Saturday, just take it for the weekend.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Yeah, just take them for the weekend. But then I said,
I don't think that's smart. There's the weekend. Well did
you talk to them about the threesome?
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Yeah, so you just go That's what I did.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
But I feel like they could have done it just
to make me happy, but I don't think that they
were happy. Were doing it on the on their own ideas.
So it was like, no, I don't need to happen.
It could be like one of them in a random person,
but because it was feelings with both of them, I
was like, the way women work, that's not safe.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
No, So then I that's not no. So what are
you know?
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Not?
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Like, what are some of the like crazier?
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Like have you ever had women let me let me see,
I'm trying to say this, have you ever had women
or suitors who like, when they're not getting what they want,
they're not getting that true love, they seek retribution in
some way, you know, like you wanted to watch back,
Like I can imagine where you know, somebody thinks they're
going to change you, but they can't get mad.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
I try to date women that I know have things
to lose. So it's like you you can't go a
certain amount of crazy, but it's a line you can't
draw because you have things to lose too.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
That's so smart.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
So I try not to just mess with like people
that don't have nothing to lose, because I feel like
then they will yeah, it's really good at I never
had a girl Papa bet the show because it's like
they have things to lose, they have kids. They can't
risk losing their stuff to lose me, because you're not
gonna give me if you do that.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Anyway, did your father teach you that? My dad told
me A lot of that sounds like something a father.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
Would teach my dad, but my mom also, So I
say crazy though.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
I hadn't had women be crazy like one. I dated
this girl. I hooked up with this girl. I'm not
eve gonna say day it huked up this girl in
La crazy already, that's crazy already. It was very crazy.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
And it wasn't like I didn't even try to win
her over because it was no, it was kind of
she kinda she kind of did everything, and I was
the person that's like she pursued you. Yeah, but everything
about it, I wasn't even fully paying attention to what
was fully happening. I really wasn't. She took advantage, so
then when it happened, I was like, okay. But then
(05:37):
it's like I woke up and she was like staring
at me and like rubbing my nose, and I don't
like that if I'm sleep, I don't like, if I'm sleep,
please be sleep too. Yeah, And I didn't like that
because like, what were you thinking? Before I even realized
that she was right here rubbing my nose, they were
just looking at you, like she was just staring at me.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Just that's so scary, terrified. But she looked like she
was a brown skin, short, nice body, black girl. She
was like right in your face, right in my face,
like right like directly, I guess, but she had been
while she had herself brush your teeth right, and they
(06:18):
came back.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
I was sleep sleep and I'm like, oh, this is crazy.
So I'm like, I gotta get ready for my day.
Let me go to Starbucks. She was like I'll take you.
I'm like, no, I just want to walk. I just
want some la air And she was like no, I'll
take you. I'm like, oh no, you got a clinger, right,
So then we get in there, she want to hold hands.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
I'm like, this is crazy, and it was just like
hands a stock Bucks. The morning after. That's crazy, Like
I can't hold your hands like I'm single.
Speaker 5 (06:47):
Yeah she has that she she I'm like, okay, what's up?
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Except for like they fall in love with me like
I've never missed, which for her, the craziness isn't work.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Yes, you know, I'm the crazy one. But like people
are usually like they like it. Well, they act like
they don't, you know, but they really do. They're just scared.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Because I was scared too. I was scared. I'm not
gonna lie, but I'm like that held her hand. No,
I said no. You said, that's taking it too far.
We're in public and I'm single. That's a lot going
back to self esteem, self worth.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
Yeah, like that's that's too much. So I'm like, Okay.
She drops me off back at the hotel.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
So she does. You're saying that's where she came. She
came to the hotel. So I told her I'm single.
Now I'm wild, and I don't even.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
Know how to do this. I've been cooped up for
so long. I'm just getting back to the streets. So
I post, you know, I post.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Slides on Instagram, so the first post is first post.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
Sometimes you have to post after you have sex to
remind people you're single.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
First live.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
She screenshots to send it to me. I thumbs up
it because that's my post.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
Yeah, if you didn't send any words. You just sent
it to let me know what I posted. I posted it.
So she calls, she like, what does that mean?
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Per hers? I'm like what it says?
Speaker 4 (08:16):
She was like really, I'm like, it's not a riddle.
But did we talk about a relationship when I was asleep?
Because I don't understand. Hear in your nose had a
conversation clearly, So she wants to go back and forth.
I'm like, I'm enjoying my day.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
I'll talk to you later. I never spoke to her
again after that. No, it's not it. She comes to
the show later. Oh, this is the one with nothing
to lose. She has stuff to look she's an actress.
Actually she comes to the show too. Yes, so I
go perform.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
I set my bag in a chair, right, So I'm
on stage performing, but I could see the bag in
a chair, and I say, about ten minutes into the set,
she has the bag on.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
So I am confused because I'm performing.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
I gotta stay perform, but I know that that's see
her with the bag.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
I'm like, this is insane's scary. So I'm trying to
get through these drug jokes now because it's like, what
what what is this?
Speaker 4 (09:07):
How long is your set? I probably got five minutes left?
It's a fifteen minutes, said she does. This is like
ten minutes. So I get off stage. She's like Grace said,
I'm like, thank you. Can I please have my bag?
Speaker 2 (09:17):
She was like, I was holding it for you.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
I was like, I didn't ask for that, but thanks,
I guess. So I go walk off to talk to
my friends.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
She comes behind like five minutes later, she's like, can
we talk for a second. I'm like, what are we
talking about? She was like us.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
I'm like, I don't know what you even talking about,
Like it's not real.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
So my friend's like, praiche okay. I'm like I'm not okay.
I don't know what she's talking about. So like, okay,
we're gonna good dinner. We leave, somebody tells her where
we're going. She comes to the dinner. It's like she
must have been real cute. People are like, oh my gosh,
look at this. Oh god, she's good for that. She's
like she's at itude.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
So we're at the table having dinner. She doesn't drink,
that's what she told me, or too, I don't drink.
I get a drink. She comes over there, crabs the cups,
SIPs it and says, this is nasty.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
I said, you don't even drink. Why are you drinking
off of my cup? She wants to have your her
mouth where your mouth has been.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
So now everything's weird because everybody's just looking and it's
just weird.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
So it's this table full of cute girls. It's their birthday.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
So I go to talk to the birthday girls and
she's upset, and she comes over there at one point
like this is what you're doing, pirst and I'm like,
they're looking confused.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
I'm just as confused. I don't know this lady.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
Okay, get help, because biblically you did know the lady.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
I didn't know the lady and not like that. I'm
not feeling from here. I got one one night in La.
I don't know anything. So we leave, go to the hotel.
We're smoking outside the hotel. She doesn't smoke either, no smoking,
no drinking. She proceeds to smoke a blunt and gets
so high she like kind of sort of passed out.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Oh so you left her great alone a car though
outside the hotel like not.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
So the niceness and me has to kick in because
it's like, Okay, this is weird.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
She was here last Like, but is it niceness or
covering your tracks?
Speaker 2 (11:15):
You're too because I could just be like, I don't
live here. She I didn't give her a blunt. Yeah,
she's got your saliva on her for someone else. She
drank out of your drink. That's true. So there's like
DNA in the.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
Right right, I see, And I'm thinking like that right,
So I get her to safety.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Did you take her to the sidewalk?
Speaker 5 (11:36):
And I took her to the.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
Room, but I put her on the bed and I said,
I'll sleep on the couch. Just please don't touch me.
It feel better. I'll get your water, I'll get your
just I'm just here to help you, but I don't
want you like.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
You can't convince me otherwise. No means no.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
She takes like a small nap. She wakes up and
she's like really, Paris. I'm like, I don't like, I
don't even want to respond. So my car is picking
me up at five am. She's like, so you're not
gonna let me take you at the airport. I'm like,
absolutely not. You can stay hearing to check out. I'm
leaving at four point thirty to be exact, I leave,
don't talk to her. Two weeks later, I have a
show a Miami improv. They call me and say, Paris,
(12:12):
there's a package here for you.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
I said, a package at the club. What is it?
They said, you want us to open it? I said absolutely.
It's a big thing of flowers and an apology letter,
no name.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
Now I have to go on Instagram and post hey girls,
not sure who.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Said you knew? You knew that? I had no idea,
Hey girl, because you've forgotten you? Was like blocking girls.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
They I've cut other women off before her I literally,
who's sending flowers to the club.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Everyone's starting to take credit for it. They're like it
was me, Like it was actually me? I sent this flowers?
Die me wrong? Apologizing that's so? I'm like, who is
it so? And they also have to not know your
real address. I want to send it to the comedy
club in Miami. That was and I left.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
You didn't even take them to the club. Was like,
you're not coming back to get them. I'm like, no,
I don't want them.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
We had another person on the show talk about somebody
who her Man cheated with, and then they sent her
flowers and she was just like, I don't trust them.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
They could be poisoned. They could be you never know.
She can't touch it came in a box. Usually it's
like out.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
No, right, this was in the box. I don't know
it was there.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
It was expensive.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
So the single of him like were talking like, you
know what I know that from is sister Active Vivie Goldberger.
Remember he sent her.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
In a box.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
And I remember being like, I didn't know flowers come
in boxes, some fancy flowers.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
It's funny. Yeah it was. It looks expensive. I want
to lie it was a lot. How many years is this?
How was that night?
Speaker 4 (13:49):
Oh my gosh, just after I was single? So this
has to be in a four year march, so like
maybe like a year and.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
A half ago. Wow, Yeah, she's she bought up at
the show. So she she this and she does comedy
partially partially, And we ended up going to a show
together and I didn't know she was on the show.
They told me it was a host. They ain't never
said the name.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
What.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
I got to the show and I've seen her name,
I said, all you so she probably had them book
you you think she had them booking?
Speaker 2 (14:21):
No, I think that she knew I was on it.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
Yeah, she asked, and she asked the host it yeah,
and I thought, oh man, this. I was like, so
I had to tell everybody. I said, I don't want
to be weird, but I'm not going to talk. This
lady's in this room. I'm just not going to talk.
There's I don't hate her.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Yeah, no, she wasn't in there.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
Once I knew who it was, and they had cameras
all around the club so you can see people walking up.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
So once she's walking up, I'm like, let me tell everybody.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
So they're like, all right, Paris, come on, walk out
with us, get some popcorn. So I'm thinking, all right,
I'm gonna avoid it, right, come in. Everybody speaks, they
like such and such, you know Paris person, you know such.
I'm like, hey, how you doing. She doesn't say anything
like okay, So she holds, she brings me on.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
When I'm in the back waiting for her.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
To go off, I think she said something like I
know y'all don't want me to go and just me,
not even thinking she was recording, I'm like, yes, they do.
I didn't know I said that. I didn't know I
said that out loud because I didn't know what was
being recorded. But it wasn't funny, and the crowd didn't
think it was funny.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
So when I get off, because your persuona isn't mean,
it was just like, whoever.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
They don't why would you say? I know y'all don't
want me to go. It's clear you can hear they
want you to go. So she gets off and I'm like,
all right, done right. I'm thinking nothing of it. So
she plays it cool in the green room. She doesn't
bother me. She like, go sudden, leave me alone. I
go back to my hotel. There's a number texting me,
not her number. Where are you? What hotel you at?
(15:48):
So you're really not gonna tell me you in town.
You're not gonna say like four hours like you owe
her something like really just so what else would you
be doing while you're here?
Speaker 2 (15:56):
I'm like anything I want to do.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
So I leave it alone, right Like if I just ignore,
she'll stop. Two days later, I get a text. Really pairs.
So I listened to my record and you said, yes,
I forgot I forget about this. I'm like, okay, I
apologize for you hearing it. I didn't apologize with saying
(16:19):
it because I'm not. I'm just sorry that you heard it.
She sends long paragraphs. I'm like, if you had how
she stopped. I said, if you don't, I'm gonna post
everything this ger and I'm gonna tell people who really
is And then she stopped.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Okay, first of all, I just want.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
To say it wasn't me, but this is like some
of the stuff that I would do. Like I'm not
trying to defend this woman, but like, really, we've written
so many novels to people like you know, sometimes you
write so much it'll go into another area.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
You have to click it and it opens up expense
like an accordion.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
I'm sure hers did, and you just didn't even you
were like, I can't.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
I can't do that. I can't.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
I don't need that type of crazy, like to know
you're crazy, just to know how far you're willing to go.
You're willing to go too far. You have so many
angles from one night.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
But the secret about being that crazy, though, is that
you have to know it's a secret. Secret.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
The secret to doing it successfully is that you have
to know that they're like a little into it, like
you're not giving her any incentives. Like usually, you know,
they'll be like, oh, this is like this person's crazy,
and I'm like they sounded like they loved it, like
you know, like it's a little joy Like you can
tell when people are like yeah, you know why.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Because it was in the beginning she was like, you
don't think you should chase me? Pairs? Do you know
whof I dated? And I'm like, you don't care?
Speaker 4 (17:44):
And then you know where. Her follow up was Loope
fiesco girl, just delete the number. Okay, you think you
hurt my feelings with Loope? Sorry, babe. I like his music,
but that can't hurt me. I was expecting something big.
You in La Loupe. That's crazy.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
You know.
Speaker 5 (18:04):
It's funny that you said that, like you might maybe
you might have liked it a little bit.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Not you.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
But I saw this meme on Instagram, of course.
Speaker 5 (18:12):
And it was this chick she's getting she's in court
because her ex is pressing charges or or putting what like, uh, what.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Do you call those restraining I never had one of those.
I don't know what it's called. So it's the restraining.
Speaker 5 (18:29):
There's too much little thing, you know, but the judge
asked the ex do you want it for five years
or ten years?
Speaker 2 (18:38):
And he said five years, and then she was all like,
there's hope. Yes.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
So what I'm hearing is there's hope, there's a chance
for me. There's a glimmers five years. And this is
how I also know that you're here because I've had
a stalker's too. But like, the unwell part of me
is like when nobody else is thinking to me, I
(19:04):
know one lonely man is thinking to me, and he's
also in LA. I think LA does very crazy delusionalness
because they don't have Maybe it's harder to get around
and find new people to stalk, like we are in
New York. You see a good looking person every five seconds.
You know, it's like no thing. But I just my
heart goes out to you, Yeah, thank you, And to.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
That unwell person. Yeah absolutely.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
I pray for anything Jesus step in please her so
she could.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Leave me alone. I don't want any bad for you.
I just want you to leave me alone.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
But I feel like this was a great era for
you because I remember real time these posts like very
much so because that was when I started like sharing
them with people I was there was a point when
I think I also had my LA stalker, and I
was like sharing yours because you are a mouthpiece for
all of us, like getting unwanted attention, you know what
(20:00):
I mean. Like I was like, so sometimes, you know,
we need somebody to speak up for, you know, the
crazies and to draw the line, because it's like I
prefer to be the crazy one in my relationship, which
is why I know if somebody's out crazying me, I'm like,
we can't go together, Like me.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Shut out to be one of my sayings. That's my area,
you know.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
But you you made it through that, and are there
warning signs that you found, like from if you go
back to like that night when you're like just a
beautiful actress.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
I should have just never responded to begin with. I
didn't know that she slid into your DMS and you
were it was like a dinner thing.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
I was just like, oh, well, she's been friendly, she's
in the entertainment world, and.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
She looks good.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
Yeah, but I didn't even think that we were going
to go there. I wasn't thinking about that. When she
came to my room, I actually had just fell asleep.
I woke up because she knocked on the door, so well,
in my mind, there was nothing.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
Do you know what level star though, you gotta feel
like to be like beautiful actresses are just like sliding
into my It didn't make you feel some kind of
like like for a second where you're like, this is
kind of the life, Like this is what I manifested
for myself.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
I think I'm glass enough to be gorgeous, long enough
that before comedy I still had these type of women.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
So it was like, I don't like it. I could
just call another woman if I want, no crazy, just
and also comedians like that's a rule.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
You have to tell me if you do comedy, even
if you dabble and we're not on the same level.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
I didn't really know. And then like later she started
telling me, like we met before. I'm like, I never
knew this.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Yeah, we didn't realize that that was her.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
Oh oh that hat who it is? Listen, Okay, I'll
tell you if listeners want to pay us, we do
take bribes.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
We have a narrowed down Listen, I think I know
who it is.
Speaker 5 (21:58):
She'd be back and forth right, no, no, her, no,
she don't be here.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
Evers is like not her because I know who she is, like,
not her, but I have had sex with her.
Speaker 5 (22:10):
I know who she's thinking because I didn't know if
she was a comic or not who I think it is,
but I think she's an actress or something.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
Think I know who you're talking about. No, it's not her.
Oh I was like, well I could see that happening
she's talking about.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
I think I know, and I think she's probably came
once to me too. But I have a rule to
not sleep with comedians. So I think that a lot
of people have that rule, but they break them oftentimes. Yeah,
but nobody.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
People to break them.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
Yeah, I don't. I don't even want it as a secret.
So many other people to say.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Well, I got to stay in this community. It's kind
of like high school is like everyone's sleeping with each
other and there's a lot of drama.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
That's but it's like that at any office, you know,
they say, don't where you they don't I believe the
poop were you?
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Yes? With that said, I feel like out of this time.
You know, when was the.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
Iconic drip water thirsty oak up that was like that
was in March.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
I think that was March after the breakup, So.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
That was like after you said, let me put away
the ice cream.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
That was like the first I was dating a woman
then m m. But I went out of town with
my sister and this woman had got to attach and
I'm like, when I come back, I'm gonna call it
off because I just got single and she wanted me
to settle down.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Like three months later, I'm like, I don't know how
to do stuff like that.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
I think that's why people don't heal, because you just
jump into something else and you didn't fully heal.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
I'm not going to do that. But yeah, I took
the video when I was there. Your sister took the video,
and my sister took the video. I was having a ball.
Speaker 4 (23:45):
I was just free, single, enjoying peace, quiet, only paying
for one bal You know, it was so beautiful. I
never know I had so much money until I got single.
I said, wow, this I got a little bit of something.
But I didn't know because I was so used to
playing for two.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
This is going to build the mystique up for people.
Who's going to be like, who's the next to capture Paris?
Is heart? I don't know that's a good question. I
wonder too.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
It's not I was twenty seven, then thirty two.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Now I'm not really impressed right.
Speaker 5 (24:18):
So it was like, yeah, it loves change tryouts, but
I feel like things changed now, Like the streets are
different right now.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Yeah, all so different. It's a new game.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
Everybody just wants to be in love tomorrow, and apparently
that's the lesbian way, but there's.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Not a way fast. I heard your fast.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
Yeah that's why I think I shake up the room
a little bit because it's like, nope, I got straight
relationship tendencies.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
And qualities fifty to fifty. Yeah, that's what I'm believe in. Yeah,
it's an equal opportunity. She said, do not pigeonhole me,
you know, do not.
Speaker 4 (24:48):
I hung around the real masculine women this weekend, and
I seen one girl like step on the outside of
a girl like the men do.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Sure, And I said, I'll never be there a gay.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
I am not gay enough to get hit by a
car for you walk in a straight line.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
But listen, I am not your boyfriend.
Speaker 4 (25:10):
I'm not trying to be a BOYFRIEND'M just a gay
woman looking for another gay woman.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
On caroti who gets it.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
I got a haircut and they like do everything the
boys do. I said that, Listen, I had a second
before I became gay.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
This ain't even got nothing to do with this. So no,
it's not gonna be easy settled down the second round.
Speaker 5 (25:30):
No, Yeah, well I do if you find someone that's
worth a few times worth your money.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Shit, if they're somewhere, oh for sure.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
And I also I also just have to like applaud
you for that intuition and for not because so many
others in that place where you're like you know this,
you're you're you're like I see the signs like staying
out late.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
And it just doesn't feel right within me, like she's
not present.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
Well, I've been a cheater before, takes it, so I
know what if I know if you cheating, how you
moving because I've cheated. So it's not like, oh my gosh,
this is a shock. I'm like, oh, she acting like the
old me. Isn't that something else?
Speaker 5 (26:09):
It's something when they start putting that like the phone down,
I'm like.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
Oh, you can't even get that mad though when you
realize it, because I'm like, wow.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
You beating me in my own gang.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
Yeah, Well, to me, I feel like it can like
knowing that. I've been in relationships where I'm like, I
thought they cheated or something's happened. But I'm like, if
you're not in tuned enough with me to be able
to tell that something has changed, you're not paying enough
attention to me. So to me, it's such a loss
on her part because you were in tune to be like,
this is not right, even though I haven't explicitly caught you,
(26:42):
like my spidy senses are not lying to me because
I've given it my all and that's.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
What I can't even cheat if I wanted to, because
I'm sitting here watching you, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Feeling heart broke. Yeah, No, it's funny. Now See that's
that's how you know.
Speaker 5 (27:00):
You feeled from it, so you could joke about it, and.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
That's how you know. I feel like that's how you
know that you gave it your all, because like you
can really walk away knowing.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
I talk to a lot of other women out there
it was over about it and they was open to
listen to it, and I'm like, this is why we
get along like they there.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
I would never do you like that. I'm like, really,
I don't believe you, but thank you. I could use
that so reaffirming.
Speaker 5 (27:29):
Do you feel your confidence or like, you know, looking
forward to the next relationship? People building that up, Like
I never do that to you, And.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
I think I think they just be talking.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
Honestly, I think women don't know exactly what it is
to get me like that, so I think they're willing
to do or say anything to convince me that they're
going to be more different than her. But I'm like,
she had a lot of good traits. I don't know,
she cooked, she cut my hair and she ah, she
cut my hair to feed me.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
I don't say the bar is high.
Speaker 4 (28:04):
The bar is kind of high besides that part the bar,
and she looked nice, she had a body. Well, this
was amazing. Everything was Corona. If Corona didn't come ConA,
we would have been very proud. But other than drinking
Corona in the video too in the water drinking water funny, No,
(28:24):
I'm drinking.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
It was just the water. It was just the water.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
Okay, Well, before we have to leave, I'm curious because
we do. Like your energy is so generous, it's so amazing, Like,
what tips can you give others healing from heartbreak on
how to really stay true and not like lose themselves
because I have to also applaud you for like staying
true to yourself.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
I feel like.
Speaker 4 (28:48):
Number one, you gotta feel your pain that you feeling.
I don't think you should try to escape it or
try to act like it's not happening, or either even
try to date other people to avoid it. I think
you gotta sit in it, like fill go through it,
and heal from it. Think about who you were before
you met the person, like they you weren't born with
(29:08):
this person. Yes, y'all spent all this time, y'all built
all these things, but you were a person before you
were a partner. So you still have to go back
to your roots to get your strength of who you
really are, like figure out what you like and what
you don't like, and being single, like date yourself. I
don't think enough people date themselves, Like just really go out,
(29:29):
be with yourself and figure out maybe you're not as
fun as you think you are.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Because you might not really know you. So just work
on being a better you.
Speaker 4 (29:36):
And I feel like with that, better people will come
because you're becoming better and really don't think about who
they could be dating x because they could be having
the worst time of their lives and you will never
know because nobody's ever gonna come back like you were
right about everything. No, sometimes you're just not gonna get
what you deserve, but you deserve you to work on
(30:00):
yourself so you can be better, because at the end
of the day, you're still an individual before you're a partner.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
That is beautiful. That is up for the Church of Paris.
The trips to Paris really train me. We don't even know.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
This is the Olympics. This is better than the Paris Olympics. Okay,
this is this is this is.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
The Cheers Olympics.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
This is really this is really good and thank you
for that. That's amazing. Like, but you look at how
joyful she is. So one of my favorite quotes is
Khalil Gibron and it's the deeper sorrow carves itself into
one's being, the more joy one can contain.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
And so I feel like, you know, that's exactly.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
The crux of what you're saying, Like to have as
much joy, you gotta let yourself go to those moments
of sorrow. So let's all take a lesson from Paris.
You know, you don't need to watch the Olympics. You
don't need to go to Paris. Just watch all that
Paris does.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
I like that.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
She is profound beyond means. Thank you guys for having me, No,
thank you so much for coming.
Speaker 5 (31:13):
I'm Shoddy Diez and I'm k Robarts and this is
cheaters and backstabbers.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
Oh you're sorry.
Hey listeners, We're back with another episode featuring my good
friend and comedian Paris Sasie. On our last episode, we
talked about her Christmas date breakup after being with her
partner for five years.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Today, we're going to talk about her dating life.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
After the breakup, the ups, the downs, and sometimes the
kind of creepy encounters she's had while putting herself back
in the game.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
So, like, do you think since that relationship have you
been like above it or like maybe you're protecting your
heart a little bit?
Speaker 4 (00:31):
And as far as I love, yeah, so no, I
haven't taken a woman serious enough since then. But I
have had women that I've had loved for and loved.
I wouldn't say been in love so deeply, but there
are women that I care about strongly.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
It's been a feel.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
I dated two women at one time, like once, I
hate it from it like.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
A year later.
Speaker 5 (00:59):
Hey, everybody, I am Kate Robarts and I'm Shotyds And.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
We are back with another episode of Cheaters and Backstabbers. So,
after your breakup, you ended up dating two different women.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Is that kind of like cheating or is it polyamorous? No,
not like that.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
They they two separate women, but I liked them equally,
and it was hard that I had to let one
of them go at some point because it was just like.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
I see, that's the reality TV show we need to see, yeah,
which is like that that hurt me though. Passport to
Paris is what I'm pitching the name for this, Like
it's a dating show where like The Bachelor, people just
day two, yes, and they have to have to have
their credentials and they'll go through us to get to
I feel like I'm down for that. That's not Passport
(01:46):
to Paris is the spinof.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Because I'm tired of day in so work. Were you
comparing them?
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Because you know, people do the pros and cons, so
you're dating two women at once.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
I wasn't comparing them, but they were working really hard.
So it was kind of.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
Like just when it got so good, like I got
to then this one which is like one up and
and it's like, ah, this is a lot.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
And we're both telling them about each other. I told
them both about each other in the beginning.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
But I think women have a weird way of like
once they like you to a certain level, they don't
care about the next person because to them, you will
cut them off eventually because of how good they are,
but I couldn't.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
They were both so, wait.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
You're one of those like I can fix them, which
they are. Yeah, they think that they can fix you.
And you're like, you're like challenge accepted.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Yeah, because I know that it's no price as long
as he.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
That's what And they was doing it. It was breakfast dinner.
It was like, well, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
What to do.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
They switch off shifts one has oh my gosh.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
Yeah, so that was fun for a while, and I'm like,
for you, I think they had though they both were
still able to get at least two to three date
nights then, and they knew what it was, what it
was they did. It was at some point I almost
try to convince the threesome. But then I was like,
I just don't think that's smart.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
She's like that there, like the says a song where
it's like the Friday Saturday, just take it for the weekend.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Yeah, just take them for the weekend. But then I said,
I don't think that's smart. There's the weekend. Well did
you talk to them about the threesome?
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Yeah, so you just go That's what I did.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
But I feel like they could have done it just
to make me happy, but I don't think that they
were happy. Were doing it on the on their own ideas.
So it was like, no, I don't need to happen.
It could be like one of them in a random person,
but because it was feelings with both of them, I
was like, the way women work, that's not safe.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
No, So then I that's not no. So what are
you know?
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Not?
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Like, what are some of the like crazier?
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Like have you ever had women let me let me see,
I'm trying to say this, have you ever had women
or suitors who like, when they're not getting what they want,
they're not getting that true love, they seek retribution in
some way, you know, like you wanted to watch back,
Like I can imagine where you know, somebody thinks they're
going to change you, but they can't get mad.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
I try to date women that I know have things
to lose. So it's like you you can't go a
certain amount of crazy, but it's a line you can't
draw because you have things to lose too.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
That's so smart.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
So I try not to just mess with like people
that don't have nothing to lose, because I feel like
then they will yeah, it's really good at I never
had a girl Papa bet the show because it's like
they have things to lose, they have kids. They can't
risk losing their stuff to lose me, because you're not
gonna give me if you do that.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Anyway, did your father teach you that? My dad told
me A lot of that sounds like something a father.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
Would teach my dad, but my mom also, So I
say crazy though.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
I hadn't had women be crazy like one. I dated
this girl. I hooked up with this girl. I'm not
eve gonna say day it huked up this girl in
La crazy already, that's crazy already. It was very crazy.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
And it wasn't like I didn't even try to win
her over because it was no, it was kind of
she kinda she kind of did everything, and I was
the person that's like she pursued you. Yeah, but everything
about it, I wasn't even fully paying attention to what
was fully happening. I really wasn't. She took advantage, so
then when it happened, I was like, okay. But then
(05:37):
it's like I woke up and she was like staring
at me and like rubbing my nose, and I don't
like that if I'm sleep, I don't like, if I'm sleep,
please be sleep too. Yeah, And I didn't like that
because like, what were you thinking? Before I even realized
that she was right here rubbing my nose, they were
just looking at you, like she was just staring at me.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Just that's so scary, terrified. But she looked like she
was a brown skin, short, nice body, black girl. She
was like right in your face, right in my face,
like right like directly, I guess, but she had been
while she had herself brush your teeth right, and they
(06:18):
came back.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
I was sleep sleep and I'm like, oh, this is crazy.
So I'm like, I gotta get ready for my day.
Let me go to Starbucks. She was like I'll take you.
I'm like, no, I just want to walk. I just
want some la air And she was like no, I'll
take you. I'm like, oh no, you got a clinger, right,
So then we get in there, she want to hold hands.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
I'm like, this is crazy, and it was just like
hands a stock Bucks. The morning after. That's crazy, Like
I can't hold your hands like I'm single.
Speaker 5 (06:47):
Yeah she has that she she I'm like, okay, what's up?
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Except for like they fall in love with me like
I've never missed, which for her, the craziness isn't work.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Yes, you know, I'm the crazy one. But like people
are usually like they like it. Well, they act like
they don't, you know, but they really do. They're just scared.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Because I was scared too. I was scared. I'm not
gonna lie, but I'm like that held her hand. No,
I said no. You said, that's taking it too far.
We're in public and I'm single. That's a lot going
back to self esteem, self worth.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
Yeah, like that's that's too much. So I'm like, Okay.
She drops me off back at the hotel.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
So she does. You're saying that's where she came. She
came to the hotel. So I told her I'm single.
Now I'm wild, and I don't even.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
Know how to do this. I've been cooped up for
so long. I'm just getting back to the streets. So
I post, you know, I post.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Slides on Instagram, so the first post is first post.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
Sometimes you have to post after you have sex to
remind people you're single.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
First live.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
She screenshots to send it to me. I thumbs up
it because that's my post.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
Yeah, if you didn't send any words. You just sent
it to let me know what I posted. I posted it.
So she calls, she like, what does that mean?
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Per hers? I'm like what it says?
Speaker 4 (08:16):
She was like really, I'm like, it's not a riddle.
But did we talk about a relationship when I was asleep?
Because I don't understand. Hear in your nose had a
conversation clearly, So she wants to go back and forth.
I'm like, I'm enjoying my day.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
I'll talk to you later. I never spoke to her
again after that. No, it's not it. She comes to
the show later. Oh, this is the one with nothing
to lose. She has stuff to look she's an actress.
Actually she comes to the show too. Yes, so I
go perform.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
I set my bag in a chair, right, So I'm
on stage performing, but I could see the bag in
a chair, and I say, about ten minutes into the set,
she has the bag on.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
So I am confused because I'm performing.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
I gotta stay perform, but I know that that's see
her with the bag.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
I'm like, this is insane's scary. So I'm trying to
get through these drug jokes now because it's like, what
what what is this?
Speaker 4 (09:07):
How long is your set? I probably got five minutes left?
It's a fifteen minutes, said she does. This is like
ten minutes. So I get off stage. She's like Grace said,
I'm like, thank you. Can I please have my bag?
Speaker 2 (09:17):
She was like, I was holding it for you.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
I was like, I didn't ask for that, but thanks,
I guess. So I go walk off to talk to
my friends.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
She comes behind like five minutes later, she's like, can
we talk for a second. I'm like, what are we
talking about? She was like us.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
I'm like, I don't know what you even talking about,
Like it's not real.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
So my friend's like, praiche okay. I'm like I'm not okay.
I don't know what she's talking about. So like, okay,
we're gonna good dinner. We leave, somebody tells her where
we're going. She comes to the dinner. It's like she
must have been real cute. People are like, oh my gosh,
look at this. Oh god, she's good for that. She's
like she's at itude.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
So we're at the table having dinner. She doesn't drink,
that's what she told me, or too, I don't drink.
I get a drink. She comes over there, crabs the cups,
SIPs it and says, this is nasty.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
I said, you don't even drink. Why are you drinking
off of my cup? She wants to have your her
mouth where your mouth has been.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
So now everything's weird because everybody's just looking and it's
just weird.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
So it's this table full of cute girls. It's their birthday.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
So I go to talk to the birthday girls and
she's upset, and she comes over there at one point
like this is what you're doing, pirst and I'm like,
they're looking confused.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
I'm just as confused. I don't know this lady.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
Okay, get help, because biblically you did know the lady.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
I didn't know the lady and not like that. I'm
not feeling from here. I got one one night in La.
I don't know anything. So we leave, go to the hotel.
We're smoking outside the hotel. She doesn't smoke either, no smoking,
no drinking. She proceeds to smoke a blunt and gets
so high she like kind of sort of passed out.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Oh so you left her great alone a car though
outside the hotel like not.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
So the niceness and me has to kick in because
it's like, Okay, this is weird.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
She was here last Like, but is it niceness or
covering your tracks?
Speaker 2 (11:15):
You're too because I could just be like, I don't
live here. She I didn't give her a blunt. Yeah,
she's got your saliva on her for someone else. She
drank out of your drink. That's true. So there's like
DNA in the.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
Right right, I see, And I'm thinking like that right,
So I get her to safety.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Did you take her to the sidewalk?
Speaker 5 (11:36):
And I took her to the.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
Room, but I put her on the bed and I said,
I'll sleep on the couch. Just please don't touch me.
It feel better. I'll get your water, I'll get your
just I'm just here to help you, but I don't
want you like.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
You can't convince me otherwise. No means no.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
She takes like a small nap. She wakes up and
she's like really, Paris. I'm like, I don't like, I
don't even want to respond. So my car is picking
me up at five am. She's like, so you're not
gonna let me take you at the airport. I'm like,
absolutely not. You can stay hearing to check out. I'm
leaving at four point thirty to be exact, I leave,
don't talk to her. Two weeks later, I have a
show a Miami improv. They call me and say, Paris,
(12:12):
there's a package here for you.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
I said, a package at the club. What is it?
They said, you want us to open it? I said absolutely.
It's a big thing of flowers and an apology letter,
no name.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
Now I have to go on Instagram and post hey girls,
not sure who.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Said you knew? You knew that? I had no idea,
Hey girl, because you've forgotten you? Was like blocking girls.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
They I've cut other women off before her I literally,
who's sending flowers to the club.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Everyone's starting to take credit for it. They're like it
was me, Like it was actually me? I sent this flowers?
Die me wrong? Apologizing that's so? I'm like, who is
it so? And they also have to not know your
real address. I want to send it to the comedy
club in Miami. That was and I left.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
You didn't even take them to the club. Was like,
you're not coming back to get them. I'm like, no,
I don't want them.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
We had another person on the show talk about somebody
who her Man cheated with, and then they sent her
flowers and she was just like, I don't trust them.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
They could be poisoned. They could be you never know.
She can't touch it came in a box. Usually it's
like out.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
No, right, this was in the box. I don't know
it was there.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
It was expensive.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
So the single of him like were talking like, you
know what I know that from is sister Active Vivie Goldberger.
Remember he sent her.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
In a box.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
And I remember being like, I didn't know flowers come
in boxes, some fancy flowers.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
It's funny. Yeah it was. It looks expensive. I want
to lie it was a lot. How many years is this?
How was that night?
Speaker 4 (13:49):
Oh my gosh, just after I was single? So this
has to be in a four year march, so like
maybe like a year and.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
A half ago. Wow, Yeah, she's she bought up at
the show. So she she this and she does comedy
partially partially, And we ended up going to a show
together and I didn't know she was on the show.
They told me it was a host. They ain't never
said the name.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
What.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
I got to the show and I've seen her name,
I said, all you so she probably had them book
you you think she had them booking?
Speaker 2 (14:21):
No, I think that she knew I was on it.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
Yeah, she asked, and she asked the host it yeah,
and I thought, oh man, this. I was like, so
I had to tell everybody. I said, I don't want
to be weird, but I'm not going to talk. This
lady's in this room. I'm just not going to talk.
There's I don't hate her.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Yeah, no, she wasn't in there.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
Once I knew who it was, and they had cameras
all around the club so you can see people walking up.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
So once she's walking up, I'm like, let me tell everybody.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
So they're like, all right, Paris, come on, walk out
with us, get some popcorn. So I'm thinking, all right,
I'm gonna avoid it, right, come in. Everybody speaks, they
like such and such, you know Paris person, you know such.
I'm like, hey, how you doing. She doesn't say anything
like okay, So she holds, she brings me on.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
When I'm in the back waiting for her.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
To go off, I think she said something like I
know y'all don't want me to go and just me,
not even thinking she was recording, I'm like, yes, they do.
I didn't know I said that. I didn't know I
said that out loud because I didn't know what was
being recorded. But it wasn't funny, and the crowd didn't
think it was funny.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
So when I get off, because your persuona isn't mean,
it was just like, whoever.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
They don't why would you say? I know y'all don't
want me to go. It's clear you can hear they
want you to go. So she gets off and I'm like,
all right, done right. I'm thinking nothing of it. So
she plays it cool in the green room. She doesn't
bother me. She like, go sudden, leave me alone. I
go back to my hotel. There's a number texting me,
not her number. Where are you? What hotel you at?
(15:48):
So you're really not gonna tell me you in town.
You're not gonna say like four hours like you owe
her something like really just so what else would you
be doing while you're here?
Speaker 2 (15:56):
I'm like anything I want to do.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
So I leave it alone, right Like if I just ignore,
she'll stop. Two days later, I get a text. Really pairs.
So I listened to my record and you said, yes,
I forgot I forget about this. I'm like, okay, I
apologize for you hearing it. I didn't apologize with saying
(16:19):
it because I'm not. I'm just sorry that you heard it.
She sends long paragraphs. I'm like, if you had how
she stopped. I said, if you don't, I'm gonna post
everything this ger and I'm gonna tell people who really
is And then she stopped.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Okay, first of all, I just want.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
To say it wasn't me, but this is like some
of the stuff that I would do. Like I'm not
trying to defend this woman, but like, really, we've written
so many novels to people like you know, sometimes you
write so much it'll go into another area.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
You have to click it and it opens up expense
like an accordion.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
I'm sure hers did, and you just didn't even you
were like, I can't.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
I can't do that. I can't.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
I don't need that type of crazy, like to know
you're crazy, just to know how far you're willing to go.
You're willing to go too far. You have so many
angles from one night.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
But the secret about being that crazy, though, is that
you have to know it's a secret. Secret.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
The secret to doing it successfully is that you have
to know that they're like a little into it, like
you're not giving her any incentives. Like usually, you know,
they'll be like, oh, this is like this person's crazy,
and I'm like they sounded like they loved it, like
you know, like it's a little joy Like you can
tell when people are like yeah, you know why.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Because it was in the beginning she was like, you
don't think you should chase me? Pairs? Do you know
whof I dated? And I'm like, you don't care?
Speaker 4 (17:44):
And then you know where. Her follow up was Loope
fiesco girl, just delete the number. Okay, you think you
hurt my feelings with Loope? Sorry, babe. I like his music,
but that can't hurt me. I was expecting something big.
You in La Loupe. That's crazy.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
You know.
Speaker 5 (18:04):
It's funny that you said that, like you might maybe
you might have liked it a little bit.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Not you.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
But I saw this meme on Instagram, of course.
Speaker 5 (18:12):
And it was this chick she's getting she's in court
because her ex is pressing charges or or putting what like, uh, what.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Do you call those restraining I never had one of those.
I don't know what it's called. So it's the restraining.
Speaker 5 (18:29):
There's too much little thing, you know, but the judge
asked the ex do you want it for five years
or ten years?
Speaker 2 (18:38):
And he said five years, and then she was all like,
there's hope. Yes.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
So what I'm hearing is there's hope, there's a chance
for me. There's a glimmers five years. And this is
how I also know that you're here because I've had
a stalker's too. But like, the unwell part of me
is like when nobody else is thinking to me, I
(19:04):
know one lonely man is thinking to me, and he's
also in LA. I think LA does very crazy delusionalness
because they don't have Maybe it's harder to get around
and find new people to stalk, like we are in
New York. You see a good looking person every five seconds.
You know, it's like no thing. But I just my
heart goes out to you, Yeah, thank you, And to.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
That unwell person. Yeah absolutely.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
I pray for anything Jesus step in please her so
she could.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Leave me alone. I don't want any bad for you.
I just want you to leave me alone.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
But I feel like this was a great era for
you because I remember real time these posts like very
much so because that was when I started like sharing
them with people I was there was a point when
I think I also had my LA stalker, and I
was like sharing yours because you are a mouthpiece for
all of us, like getting unwanted attention, you know what
(20:00):
I mean. Like I was like, so sometimes, you know,
we need somebody to speak up for, you know, the
crazies and to draw the line, because it's like I
prefer to be the crazy one in my relationship, which
is why I know if somebody's out crazying me, I'm like,
we can't go together, Like me.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Shut out to be one of my sayings. That's my area,
you know.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
But you you made it through that, and are there
warning signs that you found, like from if you go
back to like that night when you're like just a
beautiful actress.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
I should have just never responded to begin with. I
didn't know that she slid into your DMS and you
were it was like a dinner thing.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
I was just like, oh, well, she's been friendly, she's
in the entertainment world, and.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
She looks good.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
Yeah, but I didn't even think that we were going
to go there. I wasn't thinking about that. When she
came to my room, I actually had just fell asleep.
I woke up because she knocked on the door, so well,
in my mind, there was nothing.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
Do you know what level star though, you gotta feel
like to be like beautiful actresses are just like sliding
into my It didn't make you feel some kind of
like like for a second where you're like, this is
kind of the life, Like this is what I manifested
for myself.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
I think I'm glass enough to be gorgeous, long enough
that before comedy I still had these type of women.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
So it was like, I don't like it. I could
just call another woman if I want, no crazy, just
and also comedians like that's a rule.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
You have to tell me if you do comedy, even
if you dabble and we're not on the same level.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
I didn't really know. And then like later she started
telling me, like we met before. I'm like, I never
knew this.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Yeah, we didn't realize that that was her.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
Oh oh that hat who it is? Listen, Okay, I'll
tell you if listeners want to pay us, we do
take bribes.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
We have a narrowed down Listen, I think I know
who it is.
Speaker 5 (21:58):
She'd be back and forth right, no, no, her, no,
she don't be here.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
Evers is like not her because I know who she is, like,
not her, but I have had sex with her.
Speaker 5 (22:10):
I know who she's thinking because I didn't know if
she was a comic or not who I think it is,
but I think she's an actress or something.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
Think I know who you're talking about. No, it's not her.
Oh I was like, well I could see that happening
she's talking about.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
I think I know, and I think she's probably came
once to me too. But I have a rule to
not sleep with comedians. So I think that a lot
of people have that rule, but they break them oftentimes. Yeah,
but nobody.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
People to break them.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
Yeah, I don't. I don't even want it as a secret.
So many other people to say.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Well, I got to stay in this community. It's kind
of like high school is like everyone's sleeping with each
other and there's a lot of drama.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
That's but it's like that at any office, you know,
they say, don't where you they don't I believe the
poop were you?
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Yes? With that said, I feel like out of this time.
You know, when was the.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
Iconic drip water thirsty oak up that was like that
was in March.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
I think that was March after the breakup, So.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
That was like after you said, let me put away
the ice cream.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
That was like the first I was dating a woman
then m m. But I went out of town with
my sister and this woman had got to attach and
I'm like, when I come back, I'm gonna call it
off because I just got single and she wanted me
to settle down.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Like three months later, I'm like, I don't know how
to do stuff like that.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
I think that's why people don't heal, because you just
jump into something else and you didn't fully heal.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
I'm not going to do that. But yeah, I took
the video when I was there. Your sister took the video,
and my sister took the video. I was having a ball.
Speaker 4 (23:45):
I was just free, single, enjoying peace, quiet, only paying
for one bal You know, it was so beautiful. I
never know I had so much money until I got single.
I said, wow, this I got a little bit of something.
But I didn't know because I was so used to
playing for two.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
This is going to build the mystique up for people.
Who's going to be like, who's the next to capture Paris?
Is heart? I don't know that's a good question. I
wonder too.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
It's not I was twenty seven, then thirty two.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Now I'm not really impressed right.
Speaker 5 (24:18):
So it was like, yeah, it loves change tryouts, but
I feel like things changed now, Like the streets are
different right now.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Yeah, all so different. It's a new game.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
Everybody just wants to be in love tomorrow, and apparently
that's the lesbian way, but there's.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Not a way fast. I heard your fast.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
Yeah that's why I think I shake up the room
a little bit because it's like, nope, I got straight
relationship tendencies.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
And qualities fifty to fifty. Yeah, that's what I'm believe in. Yeah,
it's an equal opportunity. She said, do not pigeonhole me,
you know, do not.
Speaker 4 (24:48):
I hung around the real masculine women this weekend, and
I seen one girl like step on the outside of
a girl like the men do.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Sure, And I said, I'll never be there a gay.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
I am not gay enough to get hit by a
car for you walk in a straight line.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
But listen, I am not your boyfriend.
Speaker 4 (25:10):
I'm not trying to be a BOYFRIEND'M just a gay
woman looking for another gay woman.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
On caroti who gets it.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
I got a haircut and they like do everything the
boys do. I said that, Listen, I had a second
before I became gay.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
This ain't even got nothing to do with this. So no,
it's not gonna be easy settled down the second round.
Speaker 5 (25:30):
No, Yeah, well I do if you find someone that's
worth a few times worth your money.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Shit, if they're somewhere, oh for sure.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
And I also I also just have to like applaud
you for that intuition and for not because so many
others in that place where you're like you know this,
you're you're you're like I see the signs like staying
out late.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
And it just doesn't feel right within me, like she's
not present.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
Well, I've been a cheater before, takes it, so I
know what if I know if you cheating, how you
moving because I've cheated. So it's not like, oh my gosh,
this is a shock. I'm like, oh, she acting like the
old me. Isn't that something else?
Speaker 5 (26:09):
It's something when they start putting that like the phone down,
I'm like.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
Oh, you can't even get that mad though when you
realize it, because I'm like, wow.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
You beating me in my own gang.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
Yeah, Well, to me, I feel like it can like
knowing that. I've been in relationships where I'm like, I
thought they cheated or something's happened. But I'm like, if
you're not in tuned enough with me to be able
to tell that something has changed, you're not paying enough
attention to me. So to me, it's such a loss
on her part because you were in tune to be like,
this is not right, even though I haven't explicitly caught you,
(26:42):
like my spidy senses are not lying to me because
I've given it my all and that's.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
What I can't even cheat if I wanted to, because
I'm sitting here watching you, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Feeling heart broke. Yeah, No, it's funny. Now See that's
that's how you know.
Speaker 5 (27:00):
You feeled from it, so you could joke about it, and.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
That's how you know. I feel like that's how you
know that you gave it your all, because like you
can really walk away knowing.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
I talk to a lot of other women out there
it was over about it and they was open to
listen to it, and I'm like, this is why we
get along like they there.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
I would never do you like that. I'm like, really,
I don't believe you, but thank you. I could use
that so reaffirming.
Speaker 5 (27:29):
Do you feel your confidence or like, you know, looking
forward to the next relationship? People building that up, Like
I never do that to you, And.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
I think I think they just be talking.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
Honestly, I think women don't know exactly what it is
to get me like that, so I think they're willing
to do or say anything to convince me that they're
going to be more different than her. But I'm like,
she had a lot of good traits. I don't know,
she cooked, she cut my hair and she ah, she
cut my hair to feed me.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
I don't say the bar is high.
Speaker 4 (28:04):
The bar is kind of high besides that part the bar,
and she looked nice, she had a body. Well, this
was amazing. Everything was Corona. If Corona didn't come ConA,
we would have been very proud. But other than drinking
Corona in the video too in the water drinking water funny, No,
(28:24):
I'm drinking.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
It was just the water. It was just the water.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
Okay, Well, before we have to leave, I'm curious because
we do. Like your energy is so generous, it's so amazing, Like,
what tips can you give others healing from heartbreak on
how to really stay true and not like lose themselves
because I have to also applaud you for like staying
true to yourself.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
I feel like.
Speaker 4 (28:48):
Number one, you gotta feel your pain that you feeling.
I don't think you should try to escape it or
try to act like it's not happening, or either even
try to date other people to avoid it. I think
you gotta sit in it, like fill go through it,
and heal from it. Think about who you were before
you met the person, like they you weren't born with
(29:08):
this person. Yes, y'all spent all this time, y'all built
all these things, but you were a person before you
were a partner. So you still have to go back
to your roots to get your strength of who you
really are, like figure out what you like and what
you don't like, and being single, like date yourself. I
don't think enough people date themselves, Like just really go out,
(29:29):
be with yourself and figure out maybe you're not as
fun as you think you are.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Because you might not really know you. So just work
on being a better you.
Speaker 4 (29:36):
And I feel like with that, better people will come
because you're becoming better and really don't think about who
they could be dating x because they could be having
the worst time of their lives and you will never
know because nobody's ever gonna come back like you were
right about everything. No, sometimes you're just not gonna get
what you deserve, but you deserve you to work on
(30:00):
yourself so you can be better, because at the end
of the day, you're still an individual before you're a partner.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
That is beautiful. That is up for the Church of Paris.
The trips to Paris really train me. We don't even know.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
This is the Olympics. This is better than the Paris Olympics. Okay,
this is this is this is.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
The Cheers Olympics.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
This is really this is really good and thank you
for that. That's amazing. Like, but you look at how
joyful she is. So one of my favorite quotes is
Khalil Gibron and it's the deeper sorrow carves itself into
one's being, the more joy one can contain.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
And so I feel like, you know, that's exactly.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
The crux of what you're saying, Like to have as
much joy, you gotta let yourself go to those moments
of sorrow. So let's all take a lesson from Paris.
You know, you don't need to watch the Olympics. You
don't need to go to Paris. Just watch all that
Paris does.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
I like that.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
She is profound beyond means. Thank you guys for having me, No,
thank you so much for coming.
Speaker 5 (31:13):
I'm Shoddy Diez and I'm k Robarts and this is
cheaters and backstabbers.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
Oh you're sorry.
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