September 18, 2024 • 26 mins
In this episode of Cheaters & Backstabbers, comedian Paris Sachay shares the shocking story of discovering her partner's infidelity on Christmas Day. Join us for a candid conversation filled with laughter, heartbreak, and the hard truth that cheaters never get away with it.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey listeners, Today we've got an extra special guest, my
good friend and an incredibly talented comedian, Karrie is Sachet. Now,
if you've been with us for a while on Cheaters
and Backstabers, you know one thing's for sure. Cheaters stops
lighting into DMS and flirting on the phone because you
will get caught. And that's exactly what happened to Paris
when she took a peek at her living partner's phone
(00:22):
on Christmas Day of all days.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Well, I know she's lying, and then I'm like, okay,
well I'm leaving.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
First thing in the morning.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
And that was Christmas. Christmas morna, and you haven't spoken
to her since.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
We didn't speak for like, you got all your stuff
out on Christmas morning.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
No, I didn't even take everything I left. I left
one nothing, I said my mom.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
There like two weeks.
Speaker 5 (00:43):
Later, Hey, everybody, I am Kate Robarts and I'm Shoddy Diz.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
And we are back with another episode of Cheaters and Backstabbers.
This week we have one of our favorite comedian.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
She was hilarious.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
She has toured the country and the world. I saw
her open for one of my favorite comedians, and why
am I blaking on his name right now, I'm losing
my mind.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
It's so hot out here.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
The one and Only Paris Sachhe everyone, thank.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
You, thank you guys for having me. We're gonna have fun.
We are. I don't even know what I'm walking into,
but I feel like, yeah, I feel like it. F's
the brand. I think so too. That's why I thought
this was perfect to have you on.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
You know, we go way back back to North Carolina
going to show that yeah, before New York, before me,
before I came to New York.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
You know, I'm originally from.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
New York, but I was living in North Carolina for
what's maybe six years, and we met at a show
and I was like, I need to link with her.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
So before the Followers, before the Fame, before that I
was there for. I saw before this, it was the
middle thing. Yeah, yeah, awesome, it's always all. So she
was like, what fifteen? Were just discussing your age?
Speaker 1 (02:07):
I'm like, yeah, I think she's like twenty five.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
I'm thirty two, okay, because you said something about twenty
nine or something recently or thirty. I don't know. I
just saw a number and I feel like you are
someone who could.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Be like any age. Do you know what I mean?
You transcend everything. You transcend age. That's good.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
I'll be thirty three is beyond your Jesus year. You're
wives beyond thirty two.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Yeah, I've read a lot of books as a kid,
not by choice, by force, but yeah, a punishment.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
That was my punishment.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Yeah, that was my nieces too. Be smarter, Yeah, be smart. No,
that's awesome. We're really excited to have it because we
know that you probably have a whole bunch of stories
to tell, from cheating to backstabbing.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
And maybe you were even inspired by some of these books,
you know, because you have the most novelsque romance life
that would rival Don Quixote and some of the great
you know archetype. When I think of like an archetypal
hunter in relationships, I think of at least part of
your persona, you know, where there's like always other women
(03:17):
in the picture trying to be in the picture, and
that is Yeah, this is like archetypic trope of.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Yes, she should write your bio, she should listen. I
think she gets me. This is the real chat. What
does a GPT chat? Don't even understand me as much?
You really get me.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
Well, yeah, we will ask their like did GPT say that?
Speaker 3 (03:36):
And I'm like, oh no, I am GPT. I've been
training chat GPT.
Speaker 5 (03:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
It's good.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
It's good that she has like a she knows who
you are based off let's say your persona on social media.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Not from North Carolina. Not from North Carolina.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
You know, I feel like you've always consistently been paraschet
like that persona, but you know we've had conversations and
you know, you're just you're so sweet and so kind.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
So I just want people to know that to like,
you know, yeah, you are so dope.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
Well that's I think part of the charm though, of
that persona is that irresistible.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Though it's irresistible, you're like, okay.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
Like you will you know the song and you know
they're gonna play it and play you, but you'll dance.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
You know you'll play. That's good, that's good, that's good.
I'm not saying put me on your dance card. I
am in relationship, but I'm.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
Saying, like if I was, I know so many people
who would sign up of all of the genderful humans
aliens out there.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
But we're really big at Mars about this podcast is
like our Martians. Yeah, I want it. You you you
you did a pretty good job and explaining that for.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
Our listeners who don't know. How would you explain your brand,
your persona? Is it true? Is it something you authentically
came by? Did you always have what we call them fans?
Speaker 3 (05:01):
What we call them? Uh?
Speaker 2 (05:03):
I don't like to soccers us got to get a name.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
I feel like I have.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
A purse have like a beehive, but I just haven't
came up with the name yet. I think it's like,
I think it's like some true fing like I don't
have to respond to negative comments. They respond for me,
like those people like I have a lot of those.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
I do wonder if we could play with like the
Eiffel Tower. I was just thinking that, Yeah, get out
of my head.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
I can't something. You know, Eiffel Tower is like a
sex move too, Yeah, what is that? I don't know.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
I feel like people get together and they put their
hands like this, and then I have no idea. I'm
making this upariat we are going to get into the episode.
But you know, the concept of the show.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Well, I think I think it really is me.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
I don't really think it's like a thin line between
the instagram and the reality because it is really me.
Like a lot of people write me like is this
really you? I'm like, this is really me. But I
think I've been like an honest, bowed nice I feel
like nice first, but I'm honest. So it's a thin
line between that. So some people feel like offended because
(06:14):
they're like, my personality is too strong.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
But I think it's just me. I think I've been
this way since a kid.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Yeah, I was like I feel like I'm like the
split like a fifty to fifty of my mom and
my dad.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
It's not crazy how genetics work.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
That's pretty much how that's exactly how it works when
the little baby's no.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
But like literally like fifty percent of the masculine fifty
percent of the feminine. So like even before gay, this
was still just you see what I'm saying, Like even
straight hairs, this was still yeah. So it's not the
haircut that made it this way, it was this is
who I was.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
You did used to have hair when you met her?
Speaker 2 (06:49):
I did have hair, yeah, yeah, yeah, probably had like
one size shape and long.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
She was almost she was half and half fifty to fifty,
Like I didn't just jump into the haircut.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
I'm not that. I'm not that bold.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
I had to like fifty twenty five, seventy five. Then
I'm like, okay, I'm believe in myself and all.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
And you're all yeah, And I think that's it. That's
the key.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
You're so confident.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
That's what I admire the most.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Like I wish like you could just walk in and you,
you know, take over the whole room.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
So and it's that kind of confidence that's contagious, you know.
Like I like I said, I.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Don't say she gave me a thanks exactly.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
What I needed.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
Same, I'm like, I can pull up these classes like
I'm tired, I'm about enough.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
I feel like that's not supposed to be that. I
was supposed to be an energy and a vibe that
you just enjoy. I think if you hang around people,
you should love the people you hang around.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
And that's probably why you have so many suitors, yeah,
potential suitors, if you will. And what you gotta say
is like, before we get into anything else, you tell
people who you are, yes, and you give them their
fair warning. Yes. It's not like you know they didn't
know the warnings.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Everybody's getting the truth up front, and they're saying yes,
and it's a choice.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Yeah, so tell us a story, whether you did the
cheating or they did the cheating.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
We like to set it up.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
We like to set it up of we always like
to take us back, to drop us into the best
of days, because I know I've seen relationships with you
where it's like, Okay, they belong on the cover of
People magazine, They're gonna be happy forever. This is the
one who took Paris out of the streets. But like,
so we we asked that you go there to the
very good days when you maybe maybe you were pursuing them,
(08:44):
maybe you didn't you know, you didn't see it coming.
And then like, what were the signs that either you
were getting bored, they were getting bored. If you could
just take us back to the.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Good, maybe the good, the most time, the most important relationship. Sure, yeah,
all right, that my I'll give that. I'll give that
award to my ex. I feel like that might have
been the one that took me out the streets. And
we were together for like almost five years. Wow, So
people don't even know I can be faithful for that long, But.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Like I could be faithful five long and five, and
then it's like, Nope, she's done.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
She's no, that's not true. It's just people haven't even
seen me. The new fans haven't seen me in a relationship, right,
so they just like, I can't even settle down. I'm like, no,
I was in a relationship for five years.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
I left.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
It's not that I can't. I just I refuse to
put up with things that I don't have to. So
some people might be.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Cool, we're getting cheated on. I can't. I can't look
at you the same I might.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
I've cheated in the past, and I gave that person
the right to leave, because you have every right to leave.
But if you stay, we got to work through it.
But we can't be three years in and you still
bringing it up that we're.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Supposed to grew past this forgiveness.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
But if you cheat on me, I can't take that,
and I let people know that up front.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
I can't. There's no way I can look at you
the same.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
Take us to what drew you to this five year relationship?
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Like, what was it about her? What was it about
like that love? What were the good and best of times?
She was a Gemini? So I feel like it was
too based. Yes, she's too She.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Cooked so I can come home full, be ready. It
was like family oriented. We had dinner and breakfast at
the table. Oh, she had a child, so it was like, okay,
we made it a family.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
We got a dog, like we had the gay.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
We had the gay thing a lot soon after. Was
it like, no, well, the sun came with the package.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Of course.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
The dog came about like three years together, then you.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Got got a dog together.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
Yeah, so when you said yeah, it was like maybe
you were a little We got the dog together.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
She had the dog most of the time. I don't
even remember. I think we broke up.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
I saw the dog to a straight family because I
was like, he needs some balance.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
I cannot. I cannot.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
I feel like brend a dog. Was it a little
cute one don't remember. It was a Chihuahua and a
something mix. It was a mix. I could see it with.
It was a little it was a little chocolate, little
clean cut. It was on brand. Yeah, it was on
brand for you. And it was a girl. Actually yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Yeah, So we was together and then I feel like
Corona kind of set like the age, and then after
Corona like being together, not Corona I think that's what
did it?
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Like, I didn't.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
I didn't cheat prior to I flirted the Corona pandemic.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Accidentally. I am a large flirter. And I tell people
that it from North Carolina. No, I'm from DC. You're
from DC, So DC, they say, is a guy? What
do they say that?
Speaker 4 (11:49):
They say that it has a southern Southern efficiency and
northern hospitality, which means it's not very efficient and not
very friendly. It's like the worst of both worlds. Really, no,
she's I'm offending your home to the town.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
No, but I.
Speaker 5 (12:07):
DC.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
It's kind of like it has that little southern hospitality.
And I will say being from Texas, people are like, oh,
you're a flirt. I'm like where I'm from. If you're
not flirting, you just don't have a good personality.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
Like you can't shoot the ship.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
You can't like, you can't chit chat and be like, hey,
how you doing. And you'll say like, oh, you big flirt,
but you don't mean any it's harmless. I don't, which
is very different from like New York Yes, where when I.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Date people here they're like, you did what? Like you
invited them over for a plate?
Speaker 4 (12:36):
Do you know?
Speaker 3 (12:36):
What that means.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
I'm like, that means I have an extra plate of
food if somebody wants to.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
Nothing more.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
So, you're just being friendly flirting, and and it's bleeding
over into.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
But I told this woman specifically that I am a
flirt Like that's something that women complain about. And I
don't even flirt with the idea of like this is
once somewhere. No, I just wastefully flirt.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Is it.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
It's a muscle, right, It's like you gotta keep it
flexed because you flirt on stage.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
That's just My dad had three kids in one year.
I'm the final one. I think it's just in my
janes to flirt. So I flirted a lot.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
That was a.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Problem, and then over time after Corona though, after Corona,
I feel like that's where it got rocky. No, it
got rocky, and it got said like she lost her brother.
I lost my brother.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Then it was just too much brief, Yeah, and it just.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Became problems and it was like we can fight through
it or we can break up.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
I'm trying to fight through it. And then I think
she cheated? You think she did? Or do you have
one sure? Did this woman cheated? Wait? Maury come on out.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
Let's we have a detective business. Were hoping to start
one day. So I know you're well over this, but like, no.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
I'll be down. I'm like a good social media investigation.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
When red flags, I mean you're you're grief struck. Both
of you are grief struck because those.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Are She started hanging out until like one two o'clock
in the morning, and she would say she was at
her mamase witch a kid me, You're stay at home.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
So I'm like, this is crazy. The son's like, well
my mom. I'm like, I don't know. Good question. You
didn't have a tracker on the phone. No, I don't
do I don't go through phones.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
I've never seen anybody go through a phone and come
out stronger than this word before.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
I don't believe in self inflicted pain.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
I hurt in your own feeling.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Yeah, No, that hurts. I don't want that.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
That's my jam.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Don't look for something.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
So I did do this when I felt like the
cheating was happening. One morning, I woke up and I'm like,
I just feel it, and I went and picked up
the phone and it just felt hot.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
I don't know what was in there.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
But it felt too hot, and I said, I don't
even feel like seeing this paint and I put.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Her cell phone. Yeah, it was overheating. It just felt hot.
It just felt like something's in here.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
And the way you got to trust your intuition, I
think you gotta trust. I mean, you're the same way
you gotta trust or like exercise flirting. I think you
have to trust intuition.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
And it felt hot. It is to you for all
the time.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
We had a discussion because I was like, I can't
move on without axing, Like I won't go through your phone,
but I'll just ask you and see your reaction because
I just want to get to the bottom of it.
And I felt like she still was lying. So then
after we ended it because I left on Christmas Day.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
That's how serious it was. Yeah, we don't need gifts
in this house, no warning. You already knew you were.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
We had so all right, So this is why how
charming I am? So because I wanted to find out
the answer. I said, Okay, let's get to the bottom
of it.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
We went shopping as a family, give us a timeline
just to kind of place us at some Christmas.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
When did you think the phone.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Was hot the beginning of December, so my birthday is
at the end of November. She threw like this party
in the house, like this Paris birthday theme.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
Whole thing she cooked.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
She served everybody. It was beautiful. So I'm like, okay,
this is beautiful. And then like a week later, I'm like,
if something feels off, so I say, like the second week,
because that's what that's two weeks in the December. So
that's when I woke up and felt the phone put
that down. I'm like, ah, that's not the way to
go about it.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
So we go to the mall.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
We playing the whole day and at the end of
the night, I'm like, you want to have dinner today?
She was like, yeah, let's have dinner. I was like,
let's get our favorite food. Our favorite food was Singapore noodles.
I'm like, let's get this. And she doesn't drink liquor.
She drunk wine. So I'm like, I'm gonna go to
the lique store get some wine. I don't drink wine,
so I'm in the liquor store. I'm in there for
thirty minutes. I'm trying to find the best wine.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
On the market. So I find a good wine.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
I'm like, you know what, let me get two bottles
because I want the truth to come out. So I
get the wine. We go to the house, set the table,
we're having dinner. Light the candles so it's deep. So
we sitting on opposite side of the table and I'm
I'm like, can I ask a question? And she was
like yes. I was like, are you talking to anybody
in your phone right now?
Speaker 3 (17:07):
And we're sitting across from the table like this.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
I probably had one I probably had one bite and
she was like huh. And I was like that's not
the answer that you want to hear. So at this point,
my stomach is broken now I don't even want to
eat the food. So she stands up to like get
some salce.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
Like why are you standing up?
Speaker 2 (17:23):
So I stand up cause I'm like why are we?
Are we having a stand up conversation? Everything feels weird.
So she like, what made you ask this us? I'm like,
I'm just asking you this. She's like, did you go
to the phone? Like I didn't go to the phone.
I'm asking you first. And she was like, well, yeah,
I was talking to somebody. They sent me a DM
but I didn't know who it.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
Was, so she's still trying to cover the tracks. But yeah,
she's like, by then you already know.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
By then I can't eat no more. I'm like, god,
you say your birthday party was a couple of weeks too,
two weeks before?
Speaker 4 (17:51):
And how long was she staying out till like one?
She probably was doing it for like a week and
a half, so it wasn't a long.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
Like, no, it wasn't too crazy fast yeah, yeaheah. I
don't believe in like no, if I feel it too deeply,
I can't ignore my feelings.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
I'm too I'm too in tune with my feelings.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
So she says that we go down the spell.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
I know she's lying, and then I'm like, okay, well
I'm leaving first thing in the morning. She's like, well,
if you leave this time first day, I'm like absolutely,
And then she walked upstairs and she cut on Future.
Now she doesn't listen to future. I love Future. She
plays what I love and I said, oh, this is negative.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
I have to go on the morning. This is this
is listen. I'm like, put my air to the stuffs.
I'm like, is that future? You don't even like future?
I said, no, this is bad future to the streets
and that's me. But she hates when I listen.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
So why are you playing it now that you call?
Speaker 1 (18:46):
So I left and that was Christmas morning. That was
Christmas morning, and you haven't spoken to her since.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
We didn't speak for like, you got all your stuff
out on Christmas morning.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
No, I didn't even take everything. I left. I left
with nothing. I said, my mom there like two weeks.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
Not your mom. You got your mother involved. Well, my
mom was already involved. Like my mom loved her.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
She was like everybody in the family like she that's hard.
Like when I went home for Christmas, they had gifts
for her. I'm like, take it back.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
She gets nothing. It's over. She gets nothing.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Yeah, matching watches. I'm like, I need that back. We're
not even on the same time. No more, this is done.
We're not you out here living foul.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
Oh my gosh, did she apologize.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
No, we talked like nine months later, maybe no months later.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
It was it was a while before we spoke.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
And your mother went and got the stuff. There wasn't
any charge. She didn't try to convince you to stay.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
So I forgot. Two weeks later, I forgot.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
I had her Instagram password because that's how much I
just don't yet. So I go through the Instagram myself
and then I see the truth that I thought was
the truth, and I'm like, I knew it.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
She didn't even bother to delete it or cover up
her tracks. No, she was still actively talking to the person,
did she know?
Speaker 4 (19:54):
And she knew you had the past like the next
day because I just sent her the screenshots like I
know it.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
She was bother. She wanted you to find out. We
have a theory that it's like when people do that.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
So so you're do you think that it was because
she hurt you hurt her prior and that she never forget.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
You had nothing to do with me.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
She said she needed closure from something from ten years ago,
So I don't think that had anything to do with me.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
That was personal. So you were a casualty in this.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
You were roadkilled, yeah, but beautiful, stylish, you know, powerful, not.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Kill you know.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
It was like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you got dented
and dan.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
But you actually picked a left four dead at the
side of the road, but you picked yourself back up
right right.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
I can't stay down too long. That's that's insane. Not
so yeah, five years. That must have been. It was
a lot. It was a lot, you know what, it
was a lot.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
I was like probably like a month and eating ice
cream watching it even, I'm like, wow, this is how
the girls be crying eating ice cream.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
I didn't even know I could do that. What's your
favorite ice cream? What did I have? Cookies and cream? Yeah?
So it was good. It was a heartbreak right there.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
It was so then I had to think about Valentine's
that do I swing with somebody else or do I
just stay alone? And you know, I can't keep a
playing down too long. It was a great Valentine thing,
but see you had a lot of Yeah, I went
on a few dates. I did my thing probably like
three months later.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
I feel like.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
Three months of pain and sitting in it accepting it.
I felt, I felt it. I got out. I got
thrown five years.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
They say it takes half the time time, Yeah, half
the time, been eating ice cream for.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
Two and that.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
No, I feel like it takes half the time if
you stay sad for that long, If you I feel
like you gotta choose to not be saved. I mean,
you gotta live the memories, get it all out. But
I feel like, you don't have to sit and soak
it up for that long.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
Now staying single.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Yes, that's why I didn't settle down. But now I'm like,
I can settle down now it's been four years.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
I think it's been four years. Four years. I mean
that's good. Yeah, this was not the story I was
expecting from you.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
This is like talk about a you know, never never
judge at Instagram.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
By I think this would be good for people to
see that because I don't think people believe.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
That this could even outside.
Speaker 4 (22:14):
You kind of insinuated that, like she hadn't forgiven you
for something before, so what was it? Flirting?
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Just flirting, just flirting a bunch of flirts. So you
never cheated. I never cheated. You never took it to
that lace.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
So you have like an ethical standard where that you
wouldn't cross.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
I'm not gonna cheat on you. We can break up
if we're going to break I don't think that.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
She no.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
So, no, I had sex with women on breaks, but
I never cheated on you while we were actively no.
And later I asked her, I'm like, did you ever
find any stories or did anybody come out?
Speaker 3 (22:47):
She was like no. I was like, because it wasn't happening. Wow,
I'm just a flirt, that's it. And you told her
from the beginning. She knows me. It comes with the package.
Come on, baby, I'm flirting for the family. Hilarious. Oh
(23:08):
my gosh.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
I expected, like you said, I kind of expected you
talking about being a cheater.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
Yeah, but this makes sense in some way of like
why you own because you it sounds like you know
you healed, you let yourself heal that cookies and cream
helped you.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
And then you went out and.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
Was like like we're like I am this person.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
You know.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
If I'm not saying I won't be with you, but
like I have another one coming up. Yeah, that's the energy, right,
you have options.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
So I was open to getting back with her though
when we had a conversation, we enjoyed. Nine months later
and we enjoyed each other time, and I was just like,
I'm not in love anymore.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
Like I felt that I wasn't in love.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Like we hung out at night and it was cold
and I had a jacket and she didn't, and I
seen her doing like this, like she was cold, and
I looked over and I was like, if I loved
you still, I will give you my coat, but now
I don't.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Really.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
That's how I know I'm out of love with you,
because now you just got a freeze baby, And that's
how I knew. I was Also, I feel like I
needed that. I needed to see that helping her let
me know I really don't care anymore.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
That was my closure.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
Yeah, but how good of you to like know when
you've called it, because it would have been more painful
if you like got back with her, you know, and
didn't feel it even though you're not feeling it, because
we know some people on here have done like spite
cheating or you know, they're like, oh, I'm going to
get the final saying this. If you did this, I'm
gonna I'm gonna one up you. So like, good for
(24:47):
you for calling it and be like, I know it's
not there for me, Like it's yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
I'd rather walk away and live my best life, which
you clearly have.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Yeah, that's why I was like, you know, what's the
point of hurting you back?
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Then?
Speaker 2 (25:01):
It's just gonna be intentional, and that's gonna be more
painful for you because now I'm doing it on purpose.
I got other things to focus on. I'll just let
you realize that you lost the best thing that you
probably ever had, baby, and you know, here.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
We are today.
Speaker 4 (25:14):
This is a success story, a confidence story, you know,
like talk about not letting heartbreak and betrayal get you down.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
You know we're looking for an ice cream sponsor.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Jerry makes you feel good, said, yeah, it's true.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
No, man, I'm proud of you.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
I'm proud of you because you know, you've always been confident,
and I think that confidence helps a lot with heartbreak
because I know back in the day, I was, you know,
calling people, leaving voicemails like I'm.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
Gonna will like not that long ago, Yeah, it's like
two weeks ago.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
But now I love you have all the confidence to
move forward. Ah that's hilarious.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
Well, I think it's only fitting to wrap up this
episode on a sweet note.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
Literally, after all, who doesn't love.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
An ice cream moment. Now we all know that here
on cheeters and backstabbers, happy endings aren't always guaranteed, but
I am thrilled to see Paris back on track and
moving forward with her life. It's a reminder that even
after the trail, there's always a chance for something good
to come along.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Thanks for tuning in.
Speaker 5 (26:29):
Y'all, and make sure to join us next week because
we're back with Paris. We're going to be getting into
her life as a single woman. She'll share some of
the strange, hilarious, and quite frankly downright creepy encounters she
has had on the dating circuit. Y'all won't want to
miss it.
Hey listeners, Today we've got an extra special guest, my
good friend and an incredibly talented comedian, Karrie is Sachet. Now,
if you've been with us for a while on Cheaters
and Backstabers, you know one thing's for sure. Cheaters stops
lighting into DMS and flirting on the phone because you
will get caught. And that's exactly what happened to Paris
when she took a peek at her living partner's phone
(00:22):
on Christmas Day of all days.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Well, I know she's lying, and then I'm like, okay,
well I'm leaving.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
First thing in the morning.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
And that was Christmas. Christmas morna, and you haven't spoken
to her since.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
We didn't speak for like, you got all your stuff
out on Christmas morning.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
No, I didn't even take everything I left. I left
one nothing, I said my mom.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
There like two weeks.
Speaker 5 (00:43):
Later, Hey, everybody, I am Kate Robarts and I'm Shoddy Diz.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
And we are back with another episode of Cheaters and Backstabbers.
This week we have one of our favorite comedian.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
She was hilarious.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
She has toured the country and the world. I saw
her open for one of my favorite comedians, and why
am I blaking on his name right now, I'm losing
my mind.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
It's so hot out here.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
The one and Only Paris Sachhe everyone, thank.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
You, thank you guys for having me. We're gonna have fun.
We are. I don't even know what I'm walking into,
but I feel like, yeah, I feel like it. F's
the brand. I think so too. That's why I thought
this was perfect to have you on.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
You know, we go way back back to North Carolina
going to show that yeah, before New York, before me,
before I came to New York.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
You know, I'm originally from.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
New York, but I was living in North Carolina for
what's maybe six years, and we met at a show
and I was like, I need to link with her.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
So before the Followers, before the Fame, before that I
was there for. I saw before this, it was the
middle thing. Yeah, yeah, awesome, it's always all. So she
was like, what fifteen? Were just discussing your age?
Speaker 1 (02:07):
I'm like, yeah, I think she's like twenty five.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
I'm thirty two, okay, because you said something about twenty
nine or something recently or thirty. I don't know. I
just saw a number and I feel like you are
someone who could.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Be like any age. Do you know what I mean?
You transcend everything. You transcend age. That's good.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
I'll be thirty three is beyond your Jesus year. You're
wives beyond thirty two.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Yeah, I've read a lot of books as a kid,
not by choice, by force, but yeah, a punishment.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
That was my punishment.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Yeah, that was my nieces too. Be smarter, Yeah, be smart. No,
that's awesome. We're really excited to have it because we
know that you probably have a whole bunch of stories
to tell, from cheating to backstabbing.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
And maybe you were even inspired by some of these books,
you know, because you have the most novelsque romance life
that would rival Don Quixote and some of the great
you know archetype. When I think of like an archetypal
hunter in relationships, I think of at least part of
your persona, you know, where there's like always other women
(03:17):
in the picture trying to be in the picture, and
that is Yeah, this is like archetypic trope of.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Yes, she should write your bio, she should listen. I
think she gets me. This is the real chat. What
does a GPT chat? Don't even understand me as much?
You really get me.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
Well, yeah, we will ask their like did GPT say that?
Speaker 3 (03:36):
And I'm like, oh no, I am GPT. I've been
training chat GPT.
Speaker 5 (03:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
It's good.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
It's good that she has like a she knows who
you are based off let's say your persona on social media.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Not from North Carolina. Not from North Carolina.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
You know, I feel like you've always consistently been paraschet
like that persona, but you know we've had conversations and
you know, you're just you're so sweet and so kind.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
So I just want people to know that to like,
you know, yeah, you are so dope.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
Well that's I think part of the charm though, of
that persona is that irresistible.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Though it's irresistible, you're like, okay.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
Like you will you know the song and you know
they're gonna play it and play you, but you'll dance.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
You know you'll play. That's good, that's good, that's good.
I'm not saying put me on your dance card. I
am in relationship, but I'm.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
Saying, like if I was, I know so many people
who would sign up of all of the genderful humans
aliens out there.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
But we're really big at Mars about this podcast is
like our Martians. Yeah, I want it. You you you
you did a pretty good job and explaining that for.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
Our listeners who don't know. How would you explain your brand,
your persona? Is it true? Is it something you authentically
came by? Did you always have what we call them fans?
Speaker 3 (05:01):
What we call them? Uh?
Speaker 2 (05:03):
I don't like to soccers us got to get a name.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
I feel like I have.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
A purse have like a beehive, but I just haven't
came up with the name yet. I think it's like,
I think it's like some true fing like I don't
have to respond to negative comments. They respond for me,
like those people like I have a lot of those.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
I do wonder if we could play with like the
Eiffel Tower. I was just thinking that, Yeah, get out
of my head.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
I can't something. You know, Eiffel Tower is like a
sex move too, Yeah, what is that? I don't know.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
I feel like people get together and they put their
hands like this, and then I have no idea. I'm
making this upariat we are going to get into the episode.
But you know, the concept of the show.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Well, I think I think it really is me.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
I don't really think it's like a thin line between
the instagram and the reality because it is really me.
Like a lot of people write me like is this
really you? I'm like, this is really me. But I
think I've been like an honest, bowed nice I feel
like nice first, but I'm honest. So it's a thin
line between that. So some people feel like offended because
(06:14):
they're like, my personality is too strong.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
But I think it's just me. I think I've been
this way since a kid.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Yeah, I was like I feel like I'm like the
split like a fifty to fifty of my mom and
my dad.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
It's not crazy how genetics work.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
That's pretty much how that's exactly how it works when
the little baby's no.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
But like literally like fifty percent of the masculine fifty
percent of the feminine. So like even before gay, this
was still just you see what I'm saying, Like even
straight hairs, this was still yeah. So it's not the
haircut that made it this way, it was this is
who I was.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
You did used to have hair when you met her?
Speaker 2 (06:49):
I did have hair, yeah, yeah, yeah, probably had like
one size shape and long.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
She was almost she was half and half fifty to fifty,
Like I didn't just jump into the haircut.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
I'm not that. I'm not that bold.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
I had to like fifty twenty five, seventy five. Then
I'm like, okay, I'm believe in myself and all.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
And you're all yeah, And I think that's it. That's
the key.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
You're so confident.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
That's what I admire the most.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Like I wish like you could just walk in and you,
you know, take over the whole room.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
So and it's that kind of confidence that's contagious, you know.
Like I like I said, I.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Don't say she gave me a thanks exactly.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
What I needed.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
Same, I'm like, I can pull up these classes like
I'm tired, I'm about enough.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
I feel like that's not supposed to be that. I
was supposed to be an energy and a vibe that
you just enjoy. I think if you hang around people,
you should love the people you hang around.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
And that's probably why you have so many suitors, yeah,
potential suitors, if you will. And what you gotta say
is like, before we get into anything else, you tell
people who you are, yes, and you give them their
fair warning. Yes. It's not like you know they didn't
know the warnings.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Everybody's getting the truth up front, and they're saying yes,
and it's a choice.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Yeah, so tell us a story, whether you did the
cheating or they did the cheating.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
We like to set it up.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
We like to set it up of we always like
to take us back, to drop us into the best
of days, because I know I've seen relationships with you
where it's like, Okay, they belong on the cover of
People magazine, They're gonna be happy forever. This is the
one who took Paris out of the streets. But like,
so we we asked that you go there to the
very good days when you maybe maybe you were pursuing them,
(08:44):
maybe you didn't you know, you didn't see it coming.
And then like, what were the signs that either you
were getting bored, they were getting bored. If you could
just take us back to the.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Good, maybe the good, the most time, the most important relationship. Sure, yeah,
all right, that my I'll give that. I'll give that
award to my ex. I feel like that might have
been the one that took me out the streets. And
we were together for like almost five years. Wow, So
people don't even know I can be faithful for that long, But.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Like I could be faithful five long and five, and
then it's like, Nope, she's done.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
She's no, that's not true. It's just people haven't even
seen me. The new fans haven't seen me in a relationship, right,
so they just like, I can't even settle down. I'm like, no,
I was in a relationship for five years.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
I left.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
It's not that I can't. I just I refuse to
put up with things that I don't have to. So
some people might be.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Cool, we're getting cheated on. I can't. I can't look
at you the same I might.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
I've cheated in the past, and I gave that person
the right to leave, because you have every right to leave.
But if you stay, we got to work through it.
But we can't be three years in and you still
bringing it up that we're.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Supposed to grew past this forgiveness.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
But if you cheat on me, I can't take that,
and I let people know that up front.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
I can't. There's no way I can look at you
the same.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
Take us to what drew you to this five year relationship?
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Like, what was it about her? What was it about
like that love? What were the good and best of times?
She was a Gemini? So I feel like it was
too based. Yes, she's too She.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Cooked so I can come home full, be ready. It
was like family oriented. We had dinner and breakfast at
the table. Oh, she had a child, so it was like, okay,
we made it a family.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
We got a dog, like we had the gay.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
We had the gay thing a lot soon after. Was
it like, no, well, the sun came with the package.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Of course.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
The dog came about like three years together, then you.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Got got a dog together.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
Yeah, so when you said yeah, it was like maybe
you were a little We got the dog together.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
She had the dog most of the time. I don't
even remember. I think we broke up.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
I saw the dog to a straight family because I
was like, he needs some balance.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
I cannot. I cannot.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
I feel like brend a dog. Was it a little
cute one don't remember. It was a Chihuahua and a
something mix. It was a mix. I could see it with.
It was a little it was a little chocolate, little
clean cut. It was on brand. Yeah, it was on
brand for you. And it was a girl. Actually yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Yeah, So we was together and then I feel like
Corona kind of set like the age, and then after
Corona like being together, not Corona I think that's what
did it?
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Like, I didn't.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
I didn't cheat prior to I flirted the Corona pandemic.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Accidentally. I am a large flirter. And I tell people
that it from North Carolina. No, I'm from DC. You're
from DC, So DC, they say, is a guy? What
do they say that?
Speaker 4 (11:49):
They say that it has a southern Southern efficiency and
northern hospitality, which means it's not very efficient and not
very friendly. It's like the worst of both worlds. Really, no,
she's I'm offending your home to the town.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
No, but I.
Speaker 5 (12:07):
DC.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
It's kind of like it has that little southern hospitality.
And I will say being from Texas, people are like, oh,
you're a flirt. I'm like where I'm from. If you're
not flirting, you just don't have a good personality.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
Like you can't shoot the ship.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
You can't like, you can't chit chat and be like, hey,
how you doing. And you'll say like, oh, you big flirt,
but you don't mean any it's harmless. I don't, which
is very different from like New York Yes, where when I.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Date people here they're like, you did what? Like you
invited them over for a plate?
Speaker 4 (12:36):
Do you know?
Speaker 3 (12:36):
What that means.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
I'm like, that means I have an extra plate of
food if somebody wants to.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
Nothing more.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
So, you're just being friendly flirting, and and it's bleeding
over into.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
But I told this woman specifically that I am a
flirt Like that's something that women complain about. And I
don't even flirt with the idea of like this is
once somewhere. No, I just wastefully flirt.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Is it.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
It's a muscle, right, It's like you gotta keep it
flexed because you flirt on stage.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
That's just My dad had three kids in one year.
I'm the final one. I think it's just in my
janes to flirt. So I flirted a lot.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
That was a.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Problem, and then over time after Corona though, after Corona,
I feel like that's where it got rocky. No, it
got rocky, and it got said like she lost her brother.
I lost my brother.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Then it was just too much brief, Yeah, and it just.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Became problems and it was like we can fight through
it or we can break up.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
I'm trying to fight through it. And then I think
she cheated? You think she did? Or do you have
one sure? Did this woman cheated? Wait? Maury come on out.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
Let's we have a detective business. Were hoping to start
one day. So I know you're well over this, but like, no.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
I'll be down. I'm like a good social media investigation.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
When red flags, I mean you're you're grief struck. Both
of you are grief struck because those.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Are She started hanging out until like one two o'clock
in the morning, and she would say she was at
her mamase witch a kid me, You're stay at home.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
So I'm like, this is crazy. The son's like, well
my mom. I'm like, I don't know. Good question. You
didn't have a tracker on the phone. No, I don't
do I don't go through phones.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
I've never seen anybody go through a phone and come
out stronger than this word before.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
I don't believe in self inflicted pain.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
I hurt in your own feeling.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Yeah, No, that hurts. I don't want that.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
That's my jam.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Don't look for something.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
So I did do this when I felt like the
cheating was happening. One morning, I woke up and I'm like,
I just feel it, and I went and picked up
the phone and it just felt hot.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
I don't know what was in there.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
But it felt too hot, and I said, I don't
even feel like seeing this paint and I put.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Her cell phone. Yeah, it was overheating. It just felt hot.
It just felt like something's in here.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
And the way you got to trust your intuition, I
think you gotta trust. I mean, you're the same way
you gotta trust or like exercise flirting. I think you
have to trust intuition.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
And it felt hot. It is to you for all
the time.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
We had a discussion because I was like, I can't
move on without axing, Like I won't go through your phone,
but I'll just ask you and see your reaction because
I just want to get to the bottom of it.
And I felt like she still was lying. So then
after we ended it because I left on Christmas Day.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
That's how serious it was. Yeah, we don't need gifts
in this house, no warning. You already knew you were.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
We had so all right, So this is why how
charming I am? So because I wanted to find out
the answer. I said, Okay, let's get to the bottom
of it.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
We went shopping as a family, give us a timeline
just to kind of place us at some Christmas.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
When did you think the phone.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Was hot the beginning of December, so my birthday is
at the end of November. She threw like this party
in the house, like this Paris birthday theme.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
Whole thing she cooked.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
She served everybody. It was beautiful. So I'm like, okay,
this is beautiful. And then like a week later, I'm like,
if something feels off, so I say, like the second week,
because that's what that's two weeks in the December. So
that's when I woke up and felt the phone put
that down. I'm like, ah, that's not the way to
go about it.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
So we go to the mall.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
We playing the whole day and at the end of
the night, I'm like, you want to have dinner today?
She was like, yeah, let's have dinner. I was like,
let's get our favorite food. Our favorite food was Singapore noodles.
I'm like, let's get this. And she doesn't drink liquor.
She drunk wine. So I'm like, I'm gonna go to
the lique store get some wine. I don't drink wine,
so I'm in the liquor store. I'm in there for
thirty minutes. I'm trying to find the best wine.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
On the market. So I find a good wine.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
I'm like, you know what, let me get two bottles
because I want the truth to come out. So I
get the wine. We go to the house, set the table,
we're having dinner. Light the candles so it's deep. So
we sitting on opposite side of the table and I'm
I'm like, can I ask a question? And she was
like yes. I was like, are you talking to anybody
in your phone right now?
Speaker 3 (17:07):
And we're sitting across from the table like this.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
I probably had one I probably had one bite and
she was like huh. And I was like that's not
the answer that you want to hear. So at this point,
my stomach is broken now I don't even want to
eat the food. So she stands up to like get
some salce.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
Like why are you standing up?
Speaker 2 (17:23):
So I stand up cause I'm like why are we?
Are we having a stand up conversation? Everything feels weird.
So she like, what made you ask this us? I'm like,
I'm just asking you this. She's like, did you go
to the phone? Like I didn't go to the phone.
I'm asking you first. And she was like, well, yeah,
I was talking to somebody. They sent me a DM
but I didn't know who it.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
Was, so she's still trying to cover the tracks. But yeah,
she's like, by then you already know.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
By then I can't eat no more. I'm like, god,
you say your birthday party was a couple of weeks too,
two weeks before?
Speaker 4 (17:51):
And how long was she staying out till like one?
She probably was doing it for like a week and
a half, so it wasn't a long.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
Like, no, it wasn't too crazy fast yeah, yeaheah. I
don't believe in like no, if I feel it too deeply,
I can't ignore my feelings.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
I'm too I'm too in tune with my feelings.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
So she says that we go down the spell.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
I know she's lying, and then I'm like, okay, well
I'm leaving first thing in the morning. She's like, well,
if you leave this time first day, I'm like absolutely,
And then she walked upstairs and she cut on Future.
Now she doesn't listen to future. I love Future. She
plays what I love and I said, oh, this is negative.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
I have to go on the morning. This is this
is listen. I'm like, put my air to the stuffs.
I'm like, is that future? You don't even like future?
I said, no, this is bad future to the streets
and that's me. But she hates when I listen.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
So why are you playing it now that you call?
Speaker 1 (18:46):
So I left and that was Christmas morning. That was
Christmas morning, and you haven't spoken to her since.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
We didn't speak for like, you got all your stuff
out on Christmas morning.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
No, I didn't even take everything. I left. I left
with nothing. I said, my mom there like two weeks.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
Not your mom. You got your mother involved. Well, my
mom was already involved. Like my mom loved her.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
She was like everybody in the family like she that's hard.
Like when I went home for Christmas, they had gifts
for her. I'm like, take it back.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
She gets nothing. It's over. She gets nothing.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Yeah, matching watches. I'm like, I need that back. We're
not even on the same time. No more, this is done.
We're not you out here living foul.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
Oh my gosh, did she apologize.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
No, we talked like nine months later, maybe no months later.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
It was it was a while before we spoke.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
And your mother went and got the stuff. There wasn't
any charge. She didn't try to convince you to stay.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
So I forgot. Two weeks later, I forgot.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
I had her Instagram password because that's how much I
just don't yet. So I go through the Instagram myself
and then I see the truth that I thought was
the truth, and I'm like, I knew it.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
She didn't even bother to delete it or cover up
her tracks. No, she was still actively talking to the person,
did she know?
Speaker 4 (19:54):
And she knew you had the past like the next
day because I just sent her the screenshots like I
know it.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
She was bother. She wanted you to find out. We
have a theory that it's like when people do that.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
So so you're do you think that it was because
she hurt you hurt her prior and that she never forget.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
You had nothing to do with me.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
She said she needed closure from something from ten years ago,
So I don't think that had anything to do with me.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
That was personal. So you were a casualty in this.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
You were roadkilled, yeah, but beautiful, stylish, you know, powerful, not.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Kill you know.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
It was like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you got dented
and dan.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
But you actually picked a left four dead at the
side of the road, but you picked yourself back up
right right.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
I can't stay down too long. That's that's insane. Not
so yeah, five years. That must have been. It was
a lot. It was a lot, you know what, it
was a lot.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
I was like probably like a month and eating ice
cream watching it even, I'm like, wow, this is how
the girls be crying eating ice cream.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
I didn't even know I could do that. What's your
favorite ice cream? What did I have? Cookies and cream? Yeah?
So it was good. It was a heartbreak right there.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
It was so then I had to think about Valentine's
that do I swing with somebody else or do I
just stay alone? And you know, I can't keep a
playing down too long. It was a great Valentine thing,
but see you had a lot of Yeah, I went
on a few dates. I did my thing probably like
three months later.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
I feel like.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
Three months of pain and sitting in it accepting it.
I felt, I felt it. I got out. I got
thrown five years.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
They say it takes half the time time, Yeah, half
the time, been eating ice cream for.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
Two and that.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
No, I feel like it takes half the time if
you stay sad for that long, If you I feel
like you gotta choose to not be saved. I mean,
you gotta live the memories, get it all out. But
I feel like, you don't have to sit and soak
it up for that long.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
Now staying single.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Yes, that's why I didn't settle down. But now I'm like,
I can settle down now it's been four years.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
I think it's been four years. Four years. I mean
that's good. Yeah, this was not the story I was
expecting from you.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
This is like talk about a you know, never never
judge at Instagram.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
By I think this would be good for people to
see that because I don't think people believe.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
That this could even outside.
Speaker 4 (22:14):
You kind of insinuated that, like she hadn't forgiven you
for something before, so what was it? Flirting?
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Just flirting, just flirting a bunch of flirts. So you
never cheated. I never cheated. You never took it to
that lace.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
So you have like an ethical standard where that you
wouldn't cross.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
I'm not gonna cheat on you. We can break up
if we're going to break I don't think that.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
She no.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
So, no, I had sex with women on breaks, but
I never cheated on you while we were actively no.
And later I asked her, I'm like, did you ever
find any stories or did anybody come out?
Speaker 3 (22:47):
She was like no. I was like, because it wasn't happening. Wow,
I'm just a flirt, that's it. And you told her
from the beginning. She knows me. It comes with the package.
Come on, baby, I'm flirting for the family. Hilarious. Oh
(23:08):
my gosh.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
I expected, like you said, I kind of expected you
talking about being a cheater.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
Yeah, but this makes sense in some way of like
why you own because you it sounds like you know
you healed, you let yourself heal that cookies and cream
helped you.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
And then you went out and.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
Was like like we're like I am this person.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
You know.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
If I'm not saying I won't be with you, but
like I have another one coming up. Yeah, that's the energy, right,
you have options.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
So I was open to getting back with her though
when we had a conversation, we enjoyed. Nine months later
and we enjoyed each other time, and I was just like,
I'm not in love anymore.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
Like I felt that I wasn't in love.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Like we hung out at night and it was cold
and I had a jacket and she didn't, and I
seen her doing like this, like she was cold, and
I looked over and I was like, if I loved
you still, I will give you my coat, but now
I don't.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Really.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
That's how I know I'm out of love with you,
because now you just got a freeze baby, And that's
how I knew. I was Also, I feel like I
needed that. I needed to see that helping her let
me know I really don't care anymore.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
That was my closure.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
Yeah, but how good of you to like know when
you've called it, because it would have been more painful
if you like got back with her, you know, and
didn't feel it even though you're not feeling it, because
we know some people on here have done like spite
cheating or you know, they're like, oh, I'm going to
get the final saying this. If you did this, I'm
gonna I'm gonna one up you. So like, good for
(24:47):
you for calling it and be like, I know it's
not there for me, Like it's yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
I'd rather walk away and live my best life, which
you clearly have.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Yeah, that's why I was like, you know, what's the
point of hurting you back?
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Then?
Speaker 2 (25:01):
It's just gonna be intentional, and that's gonna be more
painful for you because now I'm doing it on purpose.
I got other things to focus on. I'll just let
you realize that you lost the best thing that you
probably ever had, baby, and you know, here.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
We are today.
Speaker 4 (25:14):
This is a success story, a confidence story, you know,
like talk about not letting heartbreak and betrayal get you down.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
You know we're looking for an ice cream sponsor.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Jerry makes you feel good, said, yeah, it's true.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
No, man, I'm proud of you.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
I'm proud of you because you know, you've always been confident,
and I think that confidence helps a lot with heartbreak
because I know back in the day, I was, you know,
calling people, leaving voicemails like I'm.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
Gonna will like not that long ago, Yeah, it's like
two weeks ago.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
But now I love you have all the confidence to
move forward. Ah that's hilarious.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
Well, I think it's only fitting to wrap up this
episode on a sweet note.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
Literally, after all, who doesn't love.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
An ice cream moment. Now we all know that here
on cheeters and backstabbers, happy endings aren't always guaranteed, but
I am thrilled to see Paris back on track and
moving forward with her life. It's a reminder that even
after the trail, there's always a chance for something good
to come along.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Thanks for tuning in.
Speaker 5 (26:29):
Y'all, and make sure to join us next week because
we're back with Paris. We're going to be getting into
her life as a single woman. She'll share some of
the strange, hilarious, and quite frankly downright creepy encounters she
has had on the dating circuit. Y'all won't want to
miss it.
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