June 26, 2024 • 20 mins
Black Rose shares her experience of dating a cheater and feeling backstabbed. She initially saw potential in him and was drawn to his looks and entrepreneurial spirit. However, as the relationship progressed, she discovered that he was living in his car and using her for financial support. He also exhibited racist and disrespectful behavior. Eventually, Black Rose had to involve the police to remove him from her home. Despite the betrayal, she remains open to love but emphasizes the importance of discernment and recognizing red flags.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Today's episode begs the question when is kindness, generosity and
thinking someone has good intentions misabused.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
It's like when they say, don't take my kindness for weakness.
You know, I always say, don't take my kindness for weakness,
because weakness is now how you're gonna remember Maywi And
I think that's really important for people to take along
with them or, like my mom always says, look at
Basa in nels gurian LUs, whatever happens in the darkness
(00:29):
always comes to light. Hi everyone, I'm Shoddy DZ from
the Bronx, New York and I'm a New York.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
City stand up comedian. And I'm Kate Robarts.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
I'm from a small town in Texas and I'm also
a New York City comedian.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
And this is Cheaters and Backstabbers.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
In this episode, we have one of our great friends
and stand up comedian Black Rose.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
Super excited to have.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Her on as us.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Thanks for having me off, of course, thank you for here. Yes,
are you ready? Because it's time to spill yote. Black
Rose tell us how this whole juicy scandal started.
Speaker 5 (01:19):
My son was in Florida vacationing for the first time
for like a whole two weeks and my mom was in.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
Dr oh wow the open house.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
House.
Speaker 5 (01:29):
And now I'm finally getting back to dating because We've
been through things and you know, pursuing a career and
the experiences that I had before. I was like, you
know what, I gotta be careful next time I started
dating again. This guy was in my DM for like
months and he was a promoter for this club hook
a Lounge, and I was too many starting to pop off,
(01:51):
so he would want me to come and bring girls
to create the ambiance, and I thought it was the
cutest thing. He was so handsome, he used to be
a model, and I was like, oh.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
So it was just strictly business.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
He's play in your dms. Yes, yes he did.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
So when did it turn into like a flirtatious It
became flirty though quickly quickly he was very interested in
me and what would he do or say to make
it seem like he was interested? To me?
Speaker 5 (02:21):
During that time, anything a guy did was like interesting,
And then it got to the point where I now
I'm caring.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
About this guy and he yeah quickly.
Speaker 5 (02:32):
So dumb of me, like girl, And he's now all
of a sudden living in his car, like one day
he's on the phone with me, He's like, oh, where
I was staying at? The girl kicked me out because
I didn't want to be with her anymore.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
How quickly working together?
Speaker 4 (02:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (02:47):
And how quickly though?
Speaker 4 (02:48):
Oh she was the crazy one right away, which they were.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
I'm not gonna lie his his ex his ex, yeah, wow,
while you had open house.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
Yeah, in weeks.
Speaker 5 (02:57):
But and my dumb ass, then let's them come stick
because now I'm so worried that this man is like
sleeping in his car, and I'm like, well, okay, I
can help you get your life a little bit back together.
You have so much potential you have, you know, you
have a career that you need to continue to pursue.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
He was nice the whole first month.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
So wait he started living there afterwards with your when
your mother and your.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
Son, My mom and my son went there.
Speaker 5 (03:21):
Yet it wasn't until after that month passed that they
were back.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Okay, so when they got back, he was there, he
was there. How did you introduce them?
Speaker 4 (03:31):
I had told my mom already over the phone. I
was like, I met this guy.
Speaker 5 (03:34):
We're dating, and you know, I'm gonna try to I'm
just helping him out right now, and she was like, oh,
look at you cooking. You know nothing, Mom, Oh my god,
this is so amazing.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Cooking and cleaning, cooking and cleaning every.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
Day, like, look at you leftovers. Yes, that's how you
do it. That's how you get a man. Yeah, how
you get a man.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Whenever I make something really good. Whenever I make something
really good, my mom was like, oh, now you can't
get married.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
Now you could get married.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
In the South, we always say, oh, the way of
a man's heart is through his stomach.
Speaker 5 (04:05):
So she called my son, was like, oh, your mom
finally has a boyfriend. She's in the house kind of
cooking every day. And I'm like, my son was like cool.
He was seventeen at the time.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
He's like, all right, cool, what's she making?
Speaker 5 (04:18):
Is it?
Speaker 3 (04:19):
My favorite?
Speaker 4 (04:19):
And the thing is that this guy was smart.
Speaker 5 (04:21):
He would cook and clean also, So I would go
to work, come back to.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
A clean house.
Speaker 5 (04:26):
Alice could do and he and he would cook. And
I was like, oh, he's great, this is so awesome.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
Was he making He'll make like pasta, rice, chicken stir fry.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
I was like, okay, okay, you had money.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Was he paying rent?
Speaker 4 (04:41):
So here we go This is where it gets a
little interesting.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
The first of the month, okay.
Speaker 5 (04:50):
I noticed he was getting money from other women what
and men? Because he is so handsome. I'm telling you,
he's dropped gorgeous. And he's an identical twin. So there's
like two of them. Wow, double salary.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
He is an identical twin. Are you sure? Do we
know this?
Speaker 2 (05:11):
No matter?
Speaker 5 (05:12):
They were identical and all because both crazy, you.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Know, Lindsay Lohan was played by one person, like in
the parent Trap, it was just one person he was I.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Think he told he was an identical twin, and then
people are sending to both of these guys.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
So I didn't see none of this till a month after.
Speaker 5 (05:29):
And this is why I ask you, guys before, why
do you think it took a month for me to
figure all of this out?
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Because he loved bomb.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
You squatters right.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Who right in that moment?
Speaker 1 (05:44):
You obviously you know you had good feelings towards him.
Can you walk us through some of those like what
other things were like emotionally satisfying out of those early
days I saw?
Speaker 5 (05:53):
Okay, So what I saw in him is someone who
had talent.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
Yet was very hurt. He was like protective, protective, and.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
All the qualities we look for we dream about.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Really, you have like intimate conversations. I got to know, like, I.
Speaker 5 (06:10):
Got to know him a bit more emotionally, and he
definitely went through stuff growing up which made him who
he was.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
You know, one side took my glasses off and saw
what was happening.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
This is kind of like the dream though, this sounds
like everything we've ever wanted.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
Who cooked together posts?
Speaker 2 (06:27):
I was like, are you posting him on Instagram? Right?
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (06:30):
What a dummy?
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Do you feel like you almost felt your match because
you did mention the whole? You know, he was talented
and he was hurt. Do you feel like because you
really you were relatable like I feel like you were.
You're so much of an impath. Yeah, you kind of
saw yourself. I did and wanted to help him because maybe.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
Some beautiful model, right, every.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Funny entrepreneur, but they should be sending you money to Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Can you describe one of the most romantic.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Dates you've ever had? Like put us there or like
moments experiences? Can you describe one of your most romantic
fairy tale experiences and memories with him?
Speaker 5 (07:10):
He kept talking about I can't wait for Coral to
open in the Bronx. That was like his favorite restaurant
that he wanted to go to.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
I've never heard of that. Oh of course, I don't
know it in Spanish.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
Accent, and he will really talk about that.
Speaker 5 (07:27):
So to me, the intimate moments were us hanging out
in our like in our room just watching TV or
cooking and cleaning together, like it felt like I had
a man in the house to help with, like, you know,
can you change the light bulb real quick, buddy?
Speaker 3 (07:43):
You know, after being everything for your son your mother.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
Yeah, so long exactly.
Speaker 5 (07:49):
So those were the moments that I was like, oh
that was sweet, but an actual date.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Maha, he didn't go on a date and you didn't
find that streak. He didn't ask him sorry because.
Speaker 5 (08:01):
He didn't if he didn't have somewhere to say, how
could he take me out on the day.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
So you're just understanding.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
You're just so understanding of his situation because we've all
been down before. So that's just like a perfect pairing
because you're not where you want to be, he's not
where he wants to be. You're helping him this time,
but he'll probably get you the next time.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
Exactly. That's a beautiful thought frame.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Right.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Oh so so wait what happened?
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Where did things go wrong?
Speaker 5 (08:25):
So as soon as that month came in, he started
with the squatter's rights energy. He was waiting or looking
for ways to someone to send him mail to my house.
He started talking openly like how he really was, which
wasn't saying. Him and his brother will talk on the
phone on speaker. He will call me a Mexican every day.
(08:45):
You guys are just Mexicans. You guys are just Mexicans.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
And I'm like, I'm like, all right.
Speaker 5 (08:49):
So he comes from a red state and I was like, okay,
you know, like you can feel and have whatever political
views you want, but you're not going to.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
Disrespect and my own.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
His dad.
Speaker 5 (09:03):
Was a very dark man, and I guess he would
be abused by him different ways physically. And his mom
was the sweetest lady that I could like I could
just tell through a picture, you know. But they moved
to New York, and I guess after they moved to
New York and things didn't go their way, then they
started hating New York or hating the people, hating the energy,
And that's where his energy came of you know, basically
(09:24):
being very racist. And every time I would like try
to speak, like I'm talking to my brother, you can
you can't speak when I'm speaking.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
I'm like, this is my fucking house. What are you
talking about?
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Bro?
Speaker 4 (09:36):
And he did.
Speaker 5 (09:39):
He wanted a demand that I pay for his like
car being fixed, like just a lot of things to
help him get back on his feet.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
And I had two phones.
Speaker 5 (09:50):
One from work and my personal phone, and I let
him keep my work phone.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
He was a scammer.
Speaker 5 (10:03):
He's like on some weird stuff people Western Union him
money because he's gorgeous, so stupid.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
I was so dumb guys.
Speaker 5 (10:13):
And he eventually starts like getting a little like trying
to get a little rough or like threaten me, Like
he went to my job because he didn't have cigarettes,
so he walked me to work and threatened that he
would smack me if I didn't get him cigarettes. And
I'm like, Okay, this guy's really out there. I'm like, listen,
we're not even together anymore. Just get yourself together and
(10:35):
get out of my house. Oh guess what, I have
squatters rights. So that's when I went straight to the
police apartment filed the report. They could only do that,
like he didn't hit you. I'm like, no, okay, so
we can only follow a report. Now we fast forward
to three more months. It took me this long to
get him out. I finally checked the tracker. I'm acting
like everything's fine, like, hey, listen, you just live here.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
I don't care. Just do what you need to do.
Speaker 5 (11:00):
But I'm here trying to find out way to get
him out at the same time, and I saw on
the tracker he dropped me off at work. I saw
on the tracker he went somewhere else. And I was
the manager during that time, so I was able to
take a break, took a cab, and that's when I
found him having sex in his car broad daylight.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
Akaa his house because he lived in his car.
Speaker 5 (11:22):
Yeah, oh my and my cousin's old block, which was
a coincidence. Well you're familiar, You're like, oh I know this, Yeah,
it is my neighborhood. And now I'm like, is do
or die for me? Like, I got to get you
the hell out of my house. So I stood in
front of the van.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
And I wouldn't let them drive off because I'm like you.
I was telling the girl, you need to get out.
Speaker 5 (11:46):
Like he's like, oh, be careful, she's crazy, and I'm like,
he's the one that's crazy. Girl, you're trying to help her.
I'm trying to help her. So as I'm trying to
warn the girl that he is dangerous and she should
get out of the van, I said, let me stop
blocking their.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
Way.
Speaker 5 (12:03):
Let them go so she can go ahead and get
out of the car whichever block, and let me try
to get home before him.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
But unfortunately, he did get home before me.
Speaker 5 (12:13):
And when I was getting to my building, he was
coming down with like the garbage bags which most of
his stuff. And funny thing is that he took my
blanket and I guess he needed it to sleep in the.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
Car, so whatever.
Speaker 5 (12:29):
And then that's when he came back, and that's when
he gets physical and he's trying to like, you told
me he was going to give me the five hundred
dollars to move out of here to get my car fixed.
This that in the third my son is in his room,
comes in. He's like, you're not gonna treat my mother
like this. You're not going to extort my mom. My
son is seventeen years old at this time. My son
is not that tall, and this guy is really tall.
(12:51):
So I'm like, told my son to move away from him.
It's okay, I got this. My son was like, are
you sure, and I said yes. He closes the door.
Five minutes later, I have or ten minutes later, I
have eight cops in my house and that's how he
got arrested.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Good.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Good for you, and so you felt relieved.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Yeah, finally, finally, and you were done completely with that.
Speaker 5 (13:14):
I was not done completely because I needed to do
one more thing. Even though his phone was not connected,
his phone was still there with information and I was
able to see all the women and men that he
would hit up asking for money, young girls way younger
than him. I started calling some of the girls, just
giving them mornings to be careful with this guy.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
This is what he does.
Speaker 5 (13:37):
One of the girls that I call now happens to
be my best friend.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
Yeah, Rochelle. She looks just like she's you.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
But like even I love this for Rochelle.
Speaker 5 (13:48):
We would love to have her on Yeah, And she
was one of the girls that would be in the
party with us.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
So I met her at one of the parties.
Speaker 5 (13:56):
At first her and her best friend, her and Jay
shout out to Rochelle and Jaye and I love them
so much. Basically, this fuck boy brings us together and
now we're unstoppable.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
We're like, it's like seven years now we're.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
That is a beautiful ending because we have another guest
on here who had a woman who did call as
the other woman. It was like, you know, they it
was a totally different situation because one of the women
stayed with this treacherous man.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Yeah, well, what do you think you learned from this?
And what kind of advice can you give our listeners?
Speaker 5 (14:30):
There are times that I guess our minds could play
tricks on us because we want something so bad. We
want something so bad and we want to be Like
I've always been an advocate of be there for people,
understand what they're going through.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
You know, everybody goes through their lows.
Speaker 5 (14:49):
It's okay to help people come up, but definitely to
have a bit more discernment is what I would say,
because it could be the difference of you know, you
being here or being unalive by someone like this.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
You know, don't try to.
Speaker 5 (15:04):
Fight these guys, Yeah, and try to walk away as
fast as you can.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Yeah, Like the first red flag so the first red
flag you should even if he's six too beautiful that
they say not everything that glitteras is not.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Everything that glitters is goal and the person and that
we need to love most is ourself.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
And are others that do right by us?
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Yes, and make sure you always have like a support
system that'll either And then obviously you added one more.
Speaker 5 (15:32):
Hello to your sup course, my son he has stepped up,
and I like that you still.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
Protected him, and we're like, I got this, yeah.
Speaker 5 (15:40):
Yeah, yeah, I was not about to let that happen.
I was like, I'm a box of two. I don't
care if you all tennis player. I did the golden
gloves real quick, but I wasn't trying to take it there.
I was like, no, I'm gonna deal with this with light.
I'm just like, you're okay. I understand your frustrated life
has not been fair to you. You should do better
for yourself.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
We have this thing, you know. We wish you well
and far away from me.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
So my question for you is, after that relationship, how
did this change the way that you approach love.
Speaker 5 (16:15):
Even though I did go through this, I did not
let it give me a sour heart.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
So I am still open to love. I know that
it exists.
Speaker 5 (16:23):
You know, we have to manifest that, we have to
keep those thoughts. The difference now is that I have
way more discernment, and when there's a red flag, I
kind of just call it out right away and I
removed myself good.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
So can you recognize a red flag when one first appears.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
And when it is too soon to say I love
you and to move into your house? I think you
should definitely use discernment whenever you think you're falling in
love with someone, but always, you know, take it slow.
I would say take it slow, but I have been
one of those that fell too quick.
Speaker 5 (17:01):
Remember when I said this is both cheaters and a
backstabbers type of story. He obviously broke my heart because
he cheated and I found him with the next chicken
look Van. But I think what hurt the most, and
what felt like it was a stab in the back,
was that he took my kindness for weakness. I saw
so much potential in him. I felt so bad for
(17:22):
what he was going through. And to bring someone into
your home and have all of that happen, and the disrespect,
I think was what really sealed.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
The deal for me.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
At the end of the day, I'm still inspired by
the fact that you were able to turn your heart
to love and not hate.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
And did you Are you still open to love today?
Speaker 2 (17:40):
I am.
Speaker 5 (17:41):
I am so much that I've been pouring into myself
way more than ever.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
We love that.
Speaker 5 (17:48):
Yeah, And I've eliminated a lot of toxic energies, not
just from intimate relationship with just other relationships in general.
I take nothing personal. I just think people are in
different level of their life. Yes, And the way that
I am vibrating right now, positivity is all that I want. Look,
I thought that, like I I like, I really mean it,
(18:08):
like I'm vibrating on a positive note.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
And I really do pray for people that have bad intentions.
And you know, God be with you at the end.
Speaker 5 (18:16):
Of the day.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
Amen, everything comes out to the lights.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Yes, no, ditty.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
So I heard you say hobosexual another new vocabulary term
for us.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
What is a hobosexual?
Speaker 5 (18:30):
So, a hobo sexual is someone that finds interest in
women or men that have a place to stay for
them because they are on host because they are unhoused.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Yeah, and the word hobo means like homeless.
Speaker 5 (18:45):
Yes, So I have some advice for you guys, never
and I mean never, no, never in your life date a.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Hobo sexual adding that to the list, Adding that to
the list.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
Take note, thank you.
Speaker 5 (18:59):
I will teaching classes on how not to be a
super bitch like me.
Speaker 4 (19:04):
Listen.
Speaker 5 (19:05):
If you need to check his background address, listen. I
got friends, we can figure this out. There's websites online
now that you can like pay five ninety nine I
think and literally no like investigate these guys, and it's hard.
It's hard because they will play their role until they
can't play their role anymore. Pay attention to the patterns
(19:26):
and to all the great guys that need some help
out there.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
I get it.
Speaker 5 (19:31):
I'm sorry, but the rest of your buddies are messing
it up for you so right.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
I just want to say, on this episode of Cheaters
and Backstabbers, we have spoken to Black Rose.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
We are so happy to have had you.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Thank you so much. I'm really proud of you too,
Thank you, thank you, and I wish you all the
best and all the love that you deserve.
Speaker 5 (19:53):
Likewise, to everybody, let's keep pushing forward. And yeah, red flags,
it's an now goo Yes.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
Thanks for listening everyone.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
I'm Kate Roberts and I'm Shoddy Diaz and this was
another electrifying episode of cheaters and backstabbers.
Today's episode begs the question when is kindness, generosity and
thinking someone has good intentions misabused.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
It's like when they say, don't take my kindness for weakness.
You know, I always say, don't take my kindness for weakness,
because weakness is now how you're gonna remember Maywi And
I think that's really important for people to take along
with them or, like my mom always says, look at
Basa in nels gurian LUs, whatever happens in the darkness
(00:29):
always comes to light. Hi everyone, I'm Shoddy DZ from
the Bronx, New York and I'm a New York.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
City stand up comedian. And I'm Kate Robarts.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
I'm from a small town in Texas and I'm also
a New York City comedian.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
And this is Cheaters and Backstabbers.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
In this episode, we have one of our great friends
and stand up comedian Black Rose.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
Super excited to have.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Her on as us.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Thanks for having me off, of course, thank you for here. Yes,
are you ready? Because it's time to spill yote. Black
Rose tell us how this whole juicy scandal started.
Speaker 5 (01:19):
My son was in Florida vacationing for the first time
for like a whole two weeks and my mom was in.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
Dr oh wow the open house.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
House.
Speaker 5 (01:29):
And now I'm finally getting back to dating because We've
been through things and you know, pursuing a career and
the experiences that I had before. I was like, you
know what, I gotta be careful next time I started
dating again. This guy was in my DM for like
months and he was a promoter for this club hook
a Lounge, and I was too many starting to pop off,
(01:51):
so he would want me to come and bring girls
to create the ambiance, and I thought it was the
cutest thing. He was so handsome, he used to be
a model, and I was like, oh.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
So it was just strictly business.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
He's play in your dms. Yes, yes he did.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
So when did it turn into like a flirtatious It
became flirty though quickly quickly he was very interested in
me and what would he do or say to make
it seem like he was interested? To me?
Speaker 5 (02:21):
During that time, anything a guy did was like interesting,
And then it got to the point where I now
I'm caring.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
About this guy and he yeah quickly.
Speaker 5 (02:32):
So dumb of me, like girl, And he's now all
of a sudden living in his car, like one day
he's on the phone with me, He's like, oh, where
I was staying at? The girl kicked me out because
I didn't want to be with her anymore.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
How quickly working together?
Speaker 4 (02:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (02:47):
And how quickly though?
Speaker 4 (02:48):
Oh she was the crazy one right away, which they were.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
I'm not gonna lie his his ex his ex, yeah, wow,
while you had open house.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
Yeah, in weeks.
Speaker 5 (02:57):
But and my dumb ass, then let's them come stick
because now I'm so worried that this man is like
sleeping in his car, and I'm like, well, okay, I
can help you get your life a little bit back together.
You have so much potential you have, you know, you
have a career that you need to continue to pursue.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
He was nice the whole first month.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
So wait he started living there afterwards with your when
your mother and your.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
Son, My mom and my son went there.
Speaker 5 (03:21):
Yet it wasn't until after that month passed that they
were back.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Okay, so when they got back, he was there, he
was there. How did you introduce them?
Speaker 4 (03:31):
I had told my mom already over the phone. I
was like, I met this guy.
Speaker 5 (03:34):
We're dating, and you know, I'm gonna try to I'm
just helping him out right now, and she was like, oh,
look at you cooking. You know nothing, Mom, Oh my god,
this is so amazing.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Cooking and cleaning, cooking and cleaning every.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
Day, like, look at you leftovers. Yes, that's how you
do it. That's how you get a man. Yeah, how
you get a man.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Whenever I make something really good. Whenever I make something
really good, my mom was like, oh, now you can't
get married.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
Now you could get married.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
In the South, we always say, oh, the way of
a man's heart is through his stomach.
Speaker 5 (04:05):
So she called my son, was like, oh, your mom
finally has a boyfriend. She's in the house kind of
cooking every day. And I'm like, my son was like cool.
He was seventeen at the time.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
He's like, all right, cool, what's she making?
Speaker 5 (04:18):
Is it?
Speaker 3 (04:19):
My favorite?
Speaker 4 (04:19):
And the thing is that this guy was smart.
Speaker 5 (04:21):
He would cook and clean also, So I would go
to work, come back to.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
A clean house.
Speaker 5 (04:26):
Alice could do and he and he would cook. And
I was like, oh, he's great, this is so awesome.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
Was he making He'll make like pasta, rice, chicken stir fry.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
I was like, okay, okay, you had money.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Was he paying rent?
Speaker 4 (04:41):
So here we go This is where it gets a
little interesting.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
The first of the month, okay.
Speaker 5 (04:50):
I noticed he was getting money from other women what
and men? Because he is so handsome. I'm telling you,
he's dropped gorgeous. And he's an identical twin. So there's
like two of them. Wow, double salary.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
He is an identical twin. Are you sure? Do we
know this?
Speaker 2 (05:11):
No matter?
Speaker 5 (05:12):
They were identical and all because both crazy, you.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Know, Lindsay Lohan was played by one person, like in
the parent Trap, it was just one person he was I.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Think he told he was an identical twin, and then
people are sending to both of these guys.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
So I didn't see none of this till a month after.
Speaker 5 (05:29):
And this is why I ask you, guys before, why
do you think it took a month for me to
figure all of this out?
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Because he loved bomb.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
You squatters right.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Who right in that moment?
Speaker 1 (05:44):
You obviously you know you had good feelings towards him.
Can you walk us through some of those like what
other things were like emotionally satisfying out of those early
days I saw?
Speaker 5 (05:53):
Okay, So what I saw in him is someone who
had talent.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
Yet was very hurt. He was like protective, protective, and.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
All the qualities we look for we dream about.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Really, you have like intimate conversations. I got to know, like, I.
Speaker 5 (06:10):
Got to know him a bit more emotionally, and he
definitely went through stuff growing up which made him who
he was.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
You know, one side took my glasses off and saw
what was happening.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
This is kind of like the dream though, this sounds
like everything we've ever wanted.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
Who cooked together posts?
Speaker 2 (06:27):
I was like, are you posting him on Instagram? Right?
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (06:30):
What a dummy?
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Do you feel like you almost felt your match because
you did mention the whole? You know, he was talented
and he was hurt. Do you feel like because you
really you were relatable like I feel like you were.
You're so much of an impath. Yeah, you kind of
saw yourself. I did and wanted to help him because maybe.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
Some beautiful model, right, every.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Funny entrepreneur, but they should be sending you money to Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Can you describe one of the most romantic.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Dates you've ever had? Like put us there or like
moments experiences? Can you describe one of your most romantic
fairy tale experiences and memories with him?
Speaker 5 (07:10):
He kept talking about I can't wait for Coral to
open in the Bronx. That was like his favorite restaurant
that he wanted to go to.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
I've never heard of that. Oh of course, I don't
know it in Spanish.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
Accent, and he will really talk about that.
Speaker 5 (07:27):
So to me, the intimate moments were us hanging out
in our like in our room just watching TV or
cooking and cleaning together, like it felt like I had
a man in the house to help with, like, you know,
can you change the light bulb real quick, buddy?
Speaker 3 (07:43):
You know, after being everything for your son your mother.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
Yeah, so long exactly.
Speaker 5 (07:49):
So those were the moments that I was like, oh
that was sweet, but an actual date.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Maha, he didn't go on a date and you didn't
find that streak. He didn't ask him sorry because.
Speaker 5 (08:01):
He didn't if he didn't have somewhere to say, how
could he take me out on the day.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
So you're just understanding.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
You're just so understanding of his situation because we've all
been down before. So that's just like a perfect pairing
because you're not where you want to be, he's not
where he wants to be. You're helping him this time,
but he'll probably get you the next time.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
Exactly. That's a beautiful thought frame.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Right.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Oh so so wait what happened?
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Where did things go wrong?
Speaker 5 (08:25):
So as soon as that month came in, he started
with the squatter's rights energy. He was waiting or looking
for ways to someone to send him mail to my house.
He started talking openly like how he really was, which
wasn't saying. Him and his brother will talk on the
phone on speaker. He will call me a Mexican every day.
(08:45):
You guys are just Mexicans. You guys are just Mexicans.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
And I'm like, I'm like, all right.
Speaker 5 (08:49):
So he comes from a red state and I was like, okay,
you know, like you can feel and have whatever political
views you want, but you're not going to.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
Disrespect and my own.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
His dad.
Speaker 5 (09:03):
Was a very dark man, and I guess he would
be abused by him different ways physically. And his mom
was the sweetest lady that I could like I could
just tell through a picture, you know. But they moved
to New York, and I guess after they moved to
New York and things didn't go their way, then they
started hating New York or hating the people, hating the energy,
And that's where his energy came of you know, basically
(09:24):
being very racist. And every time I would like try
to speak, like I'm talking to my brother, you can
you can't speak when I'm speaking.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
I'm like, this is my fucking house. What are you
talking about?
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Bro?
Speaker 4 (09:36):
And he did.
Speaker 5 (09:39):
He wanted a demand that I pay for his like
car being fixed, like just a lot of things to
help him get back on his feet.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
And I had two phones.
Speaker 5 (09:50):
One from work and my personal phone, and I let
him keep my work phone.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
He was a scammer.
Speaker 5 (10:03):
He's like on some weird stuff people Western Union him
money because he's gorgeous, so stupid.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
I was so dumb guys.
Speaker 5 (10:13):
And he eventually starts like getting a little like trying
to get a little rough or like threaten me, Like
he went to my job because he didn't have cigarettes,
so he walked me to work and threatened that he
would smack me if I didn't get him cigarettes. And
I'm like, Okay, this guy's really out there. I'm like, listen,
we're not even together anymore. Just get yourself together and
(10:35):
get out of my house. Oh guess what, I have
squatters rights. So that's when I went straight to the
police apartment filed the report. They could only do that,
like he didn't hit you. I'm like, no, okay, so
we can only follow a report. Now we fast forward
to three more months. It took me this long to
get him out. I finally checked the tracker. I'm acting
like everything's fine, like, hey, listen, you just live here.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
I don't care. Just do what you need to do.
Speaker 5 (11:00):
But I'm here trying to find out way to get
him out at the same time, and I saw on
the tracker he dropped me off at work. I saw
on the tracker he went somewhere else. And I was
the manager during that time, so I was able to
take a break, took a cab, and that's when I
found him having sex in his car broad daylight.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
Akaa his house because he lived in his car.
Speaker 5 (11:22):
Yeah, oh my and my cousin's old block, which was
a coincidence. Well you're familiar, You're like, oh I know this, Yeah,
it is my neighborhood. And now I'm like, is do
or die for me? Like, I got to get you
the hell out of my house. So I stood in
front of the van.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
And I wouldn't let them drive off because I'm like you.
I was telling the girl, you need to get out.
Speaker 5 (11:46):
Like he's like, oh, be careful, she's crazy, and I'm like,
he's the one that's crazy. Girl, you're trying to help her.
I'm trying to help her. So as I'm trying to
warn the girl that he is dangerous and she should
get out of the van, I said, let me stop
blocking their.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
Way.
Speaker 5 (12:03):
Let them go so she can go ahead and get
out of the car whichever block, and let me try
to get home before him.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
But unfortunately, he did get home before me.
Speaker 5 (12:13):
And when I was getting to my building, he was
coming down with like the garbage bags which most of
his stuff. And funny thing is that he took my
blanket and I guess he needed it to sleep in the.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
Car, so whatever.
Speaker 5 (12:29):
And then that's when he came back, and that's when
he gets physical and he's trying to like, you told
me he was going to give me the five hundred
dollars to move out of here to get my car fixed.
This that in the third my son is in his room,
comes in. He's like, you're not gonna treat my mother
like this. You're not going to extort my mom. My
son is seventeen years old at this time. My son
is not that tall, and this guy is really tall.
(12:51):
So I'm like, told my son to move away from him.
It's okay, I got this. My son was like, are
you sure, and I said yes. He closes the door.
Five minutes later, I have or ten minutes later, I
have eight cops in my house and that's how he
got arrested.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Good.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Good for you, and so you felt relieved.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Yeah, finally, finally, and you were done completely with that.
Speaker 5 (13:14):
I was not done completely because I needed to do
one more thing. Even though his phone was not connected,
his phone was still there with information and I was
able to see all the women and men that he
would hit up asking for money, young girls way younger
than him. I started calling some of the girls, just
giving them mornings to be careful with this guy.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
This is what he does.
Speaker 5 (13:37):
One of the girls that I call now happens to
be my best friend.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
Yeah, Rochelle. She looks just like she's you.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
But like even I love this for Rochelle.
Speaker 5 (13:48):
We would love to have her on Yeah, And she
was one of the girls that would be in the
party with us.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
So I met her at one of the parties.
Speaker 5 (13:56):
At first her and her best friend, her and Jay
shout out to Rochelle and Jaye and I love them
so much. Basically, this fuck boy brings us together and
now we're unstoppable.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
We're like, it's like seven years now we're.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
That is a beautiful ending because we have another guest
on here who had a woman who did call as
the other woman. It was like, you know, they it
was a totally different situation because one of the women
stayed with this treacherous man.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Yeah, well, what do you think you learned from this?
And what kind of advice can you give our listeners?
Speaker 5 (14:30):
There are times that I guess our minds could play
tricks on us because we want something so bad. We
want something so bad and we want to be Like
I've always been an advocate of be there for people,
understand what they're going through.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
You know, everybody goes through their lows.
Speaker 5 (14:49):
It's okay to help people come up, but definitely to
have a bit more discernment is what I would say,
because it could be the difference of you know, you
being here or being unalive by someone like this.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
You know, don't try to.
Speaker 5 (15:04):
Fight these guys, Yeah, and try to walk away as
fast as you can.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Yeah, Like the first red flag so the first red
flag you should even if he's six too beautiful that
they say not everything that glitteras is not.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Everything that glitters is goal and the person and that
we need to love most is ourself.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
And are others that do right by us?
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Yes, and make sure you always have like a support
system that'll either And then obviously you added one more.
Speaker 5 (15:32):
Hello to your sup course, my son he has stepped up,
and I like that you still.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
Protected him, and we're like, I got this, yeah.
Speaker 5 (15:40):
Yeah, yeah, I was not about to let that happen.
I was like, I'm a box of two. I don't
care if you all tennis player. I did the golden
gloves real quick, but I wasn't trying to take it there.
I was like, no, I'm gonna deal with this with light.
I'm just like, you're okay. I understand your frustrated life
has not been fair to you. You should do better
for yourself.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
We have this thing, you know. We wish you well
and far away from me.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
So my question for you is, after that relationship, how
did this change the way that you approach love.
Speaker 5 (16:15):
Even though I did go through this, I did not
let it give me a sour heart.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
So I am still open to love. I know that
it exists.
Speaker 5 (16:23):
You know, we have to manifest that, we have to
keep those thoughts. The difference now is that I have
way more discernment, and when there's a red flag, I
kind of just call it out right away and I
removed myself good.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
So can you recognize a red flag when one first appears.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
And when it is too soon to say I love
you and to move into your house? I think you
should definitely use discernment whenever you think you're falling in
love with someone, but always, you know, take it slow.
I would say take it slow, but I have been
one of those that fell too quick.
Speaker 5 (17:01):
Remember when I said this is both cheaters and a
backstabbers type of story. He obviously broke my heart because
he cheated and I found him with the next chicken
look Van. But I think what hurt the most, and
what felt like it was a stab in the back,
was that he took my kindness for weakness. I saw
so much potential in him. I felt so bad for
(17:22):
what he was going through. And to bring someone into
your home and have all of that happen, and the disrespect,
I think was what really sealed.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
The deal for me.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
At the end of the day, I'm still inspired by
the fact that you were able to turn your heart
to love and not hate.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
And did you Are you still open to love today?
Speaker 2 (17:40):
I am.
Speaker 5 (17:41):
I am so much that I've been pouring into myself
way more than ever.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
We love that.
Speaker 5 (17:48):
Yeah, And I've eliminated a lot of toxic energies, not
just from intimate relationship with just other relationships in general.
I take nothing personal. I just think people are in
different level of their life. Yes, And the way that
I am vibrating right now, positivity is all that I want. Look,
I thought that, like I I like, I really mean it,
(18:08):
like I'm vibrating on a positive note.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
And I really do pray for people that have bad intentions.
And you know, God be with you at the end.
Speaker 5 (18:16):
Of the day.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
Amen, everything comes out to the lights.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Yes, no, ditty.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
So I heard you say hobosexual another new vocabulary term
for us.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
What is a hobosexual?
Speaker 5 (18:30):
So, a hobo sexual is someone that finds interest in
women or men that have a place to stay for
them because they are on host because they are unhoused.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Yeah, and the word hobo means like homeless.
Speaker 5 (18:45):
Yes, So I have some advice for you guys, never
and I mean never, no, never in your life date a.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Hobo sexual adding that to the list, Adding that to
the list.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
Take note, thank you.
Speaker 5 (18:59):
I will teaching classes on how not to be a
super bitch like me.
Speaker 4 (19:04):
Listen.
Speaker 5 (19:05):
If you need to check his background address, listen. I
got friends, we can figure this out. There's websites online
now that you can like pay five ninety nine I
think and literally no like investigate these guys, and it's hard.
It's hard because they will play their role until they
can't play their role anymore. Pay attention to the patterns
(19:26):
and to all the great guys that need some help
out there.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
I get it.
Speaker 5 (19:31):
I'm sorry, but the rest of your buddies are messing
it up for you so right.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
I just want to say, on this episode of Cheaters
and Backstabbers, we have spoken to Black Rose.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
We are so happy to have had you.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Thank you so much. I'm really proud of you too,
Thank you, thank you, and I wish you all the
best and all the love that you deserve.
Speaker 5 (19:53):
Likewise, to everybody, let's keep pushing forward. And yeah, red flags,
it's an now goo Yes.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
Thanks for listening everyone.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
I'm Kate Roberts and I'm Shoddy Diaz and this was
another electrifying episode of cheaters and backstabbers.
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Shari Diaz
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