October 9, 2024 • 12 mins
Hosts Kate Robards and Shari Diaz share their 5 favorite lessons they learned from their remarkable guests. Everything from dating tips on LinkedIn to spite cheating; this is an episode you won't want to miss.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey listeners, Today we have a very special episode for you.
We're switching things up a little bit and we're doing
the top five lessons we have learned from our amazing
guests so far.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
That's right, everything from SPIKEE cheating to dating tips on LinkedIn,
We've heard it all and want to share with these
the hilarious, shocking, and sometimes practical advice we have done.
I'm cheating and backstabbing, So without further ado, here we go.
Hi everyone, I'm Shody Diaz from the Bronx, New York
(00:32):
and I'm a New York City stand up comedian.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
And I'm Kate Robards. I'm from a small town in
Texas and I'm also a New York City comedian. And
this is Cheaters and Backs to Evers countdown time. Let's
go ahead and start with our very first episode, Number one,
SPIKEE cheating.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
This guest tells us that sometimes if you have a
cheater in your life, the best revenge is SPIKEE cheating.
Let's listen to comedian Karen Fihan says.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
More, he certainly started cheating on me. He would like
come home at like ten am eleven am with like
dragon breath and like try to hook up with me,
and I would just be like eh ow And it
sort of just like went on like that for a while,
and then, you know, slowly your brain kind of goes, well,
if somebody else comes along, I'm like not going to
reject them, I'm gonna actually maybe like give them a shot.
(01:22):
So I started working at Sushi Samba. I was super
attracted to one of the waiters that I worked with,
and you know, we started going out and like drinking
together and hanging out and started hooking up. And when
my ex used to cheat on me, he would like
do it outside of our apartment, like he would like
stay at a girl's house or maybe at like a
friend's house. Yeah, I mean he would come home at
like ten am. It's like that's and a lot of
(01:43):
times I was like him, yeah, he's all. I would
accuse him and he'd be like, you're crazy, you know,
just full gaslighting. Yeah, gaslighting worked on me when I
was in my twenties. I was like, you're right, I'm crazy.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Yeah. That was my jam too, Yeah, like, oh you together.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
It's a very funny story about our relationship. We were
also pretty toxic and he's a serial cheater. So it
took like a few times getting cheated on by him
for me to spite cheat. But when I cheat around, Yeah,
when I cheated on him, he found a couple condoms.
And I had a dog at this point, not Mabel,
my old dog, Ernest, And I told Louis that I
(02:17):
had been using the condoms to put on Ernest's feet
to protect them from the salt on the snow, and.
Speaker 5 (02:23):
He believed me.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Yikes, the next time your man's dog has snow boot eas,
he might want to ask a few questions. Next up
is number two.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Our friend comedian black Rose tells us about how to
avoid a hobo sexual. Little vocabulary. What is a hobo sexual?
It's a person without a home who starts dating you
and just moves right in.
Speaker 6 (02:45):
So as soon as that month came in, he started
with the squatter's rites energy. He was waiting or looking
for ways to someone to send him mails to my house.
He started talking openly like how he really was, which
wasn't saying. Him and his brother will talk on the
phone on speaker. He will call me a Mexican every day.
(03:05):
And now I'm like, is do or die for me?
Like I got to get you the hell out of
my house. So I stood in front of the van
and I wouldn't let them drive off because I'm like you,
I was telling the girl you need to get out.
Like he's like, oh, be careful, she's crazy.
Speaker 5 (03:19):
And I'm like, he's the one that's crazy. Girl.
Speaker 6 (03:21):
You're trying to help her. I'm trying to help her.
And then that's when he came back, and that's when
he gets physical and he's trying to like you told
me he was going to give me the five hundred
dollars to move out of here to get my car fixed.
This that In the third, my son is in his room,
comes in. He's like, you're not gonna treat my mother
like this. You're not going to extort my mom. My
(03:43):
son is seventeen years old at this time. My son
is not that tall and this guy is really tall.
So I'm like, told my son to just move away
from him. It's okay. I got this. My son was like,
are you sure, and I said yes. He closes the door.
Five minutes later, I have or ten minutes later, I
have a cops in my house.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
So I heard you say hobosexual. Another new vocabulary term
for us, what is a hobosexual?
Speaker 6 (04:10):
So a hobo sexual is someone that finds interest in
women or men.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
That have a place to stay for them because they
are unhost because they are unhoused.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Yeah, and the word hobo means like homeless.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Yes.
Speaker 6 (04:26):
So I have some advice for you guys. Never, and
I mean never, no, never in your life date a
hobo sexual.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
I'm so glad Black Rose could learn her lesson. I
hate that she went through it, but I'm glad she
learned and hopefully we can learn from her too. To
all of our cheaters and backstabbers listeners out there, let's
take a pledge never date a hobo sexual.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
So true. Now let's move on to lesson three. Our
friend and comedian Ask for Aiden tells all about finding
dates on LinkedIn.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
I go shopping on LinkedIn for what all the time?
Speaker 1 (05:06):
From men?
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Do you know that?
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Let me tell you something that smart thing about Lincoln?
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Okay, let me tell you something. Let me tell you
about let.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Me let me tell you something about LinkedIn. Okay, First
of all, dress for the man you want, honestly. Actually yeah,
but here's the thing. Actually, I'm part of a I'm
part of a group called like out or whatever it
is on LinkedIn, and I will scroll through those people
that I'm like I'm connected with, and I'll see where
(05:36):
they work and what they do, and I'll maybe connect
and say hey, Hope Paul as well.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
So you just look at their pages, you like, look
them up on LinkedIn. You know they can see when
you look.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
I want them to see that.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
So you want them congratulations on your fifth year.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Yeah, I'll be like, hey, congratulations. If they post something,
I'll be like, hey, congratulations on that you know, award
or whatever. But now you know I'm going after like
CEOs wow.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Oscar never fails to be innovative. Forget finding a job.
Let's all use LinkedIn to find a date. Can I
say Ceo Hello?
Speaker 2 (06:18):
But social media is not always your friend? Remember that.
For this next lesson Lesson number four, we hear from
our friends and comedian Eva Evams. As is always the
case on cheaters and backstabbers, Eva had to learn the
hard way that Facebook is not always your friend.
Speaker 5 (06:34):
Yeah, we would say other for two years like that,
And we went to a baby shower together and this
girl was like Hi, Hi, Like he said his name.
I don't want to say his name because I don't
want care him cloud. But he said hi, so and
so all, and he was so nervous, like he was
like sweating and breathing all. I'm like, you're good. He's like, yeah,
(06:54):
let's hurry up and just get our gift and get
out of here. I'm like, but it turned out to
be the cousin of the girl that he had gotten
pregnant around my back. Yet I didn't even Oh yeah,
I don't tell you that.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (07:04):
So not only did he cheat, but he got the
shorty pregnant. So that's that's that's the game.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
How did you find all this out?
Speaker 5 (07:09):
Facebook? Shout out to Facebook? Facebook, I ain't been on Facebook.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Since somebody left the message I was in.
Speaker 5 (07:16):
Two thousand and fourteen.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
You haven't been on it since?
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Oh my gosh, would like you see a picture of
a sonogram? What is it? No?
Speaker 2 (07:23):
I have?
Speaker 5 (07:23):
Well, okay, So he had asked me to marry him.
He's like, oh, I want to get married. I'm like
he he was like, all that's going down to city Hall.
So I'm like, no, I want to go to Jamaica.
My family gonna be there. And the man that I
wanted to work we down the aisle and my father
figure he can't come to America. So I was like,
I really want to go to Jamaica. So I went
on Facebook to tell my family, like, hey, somebody asked
(07:46):
me to marry them, like, you know, heads up. And
then that's when I seen the message. And it was
such like a disgusting message, like it was so like
it was really mean. It wasn't even from the girl.
It's from her cousin, the girl that you met the
baby at the baby shower? What does she say? Do
you still have the message? I don't even know my
Facebook path? I mean, I was just so challenged. I
just love to website.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Facebook's dead.
Speaker 5 (08:06):
Yeah, no, wonder you don't answer my messages? Yeah, I
don't go on Facebook that well that's.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Oh Eva. After hearing your story, I'm not sure Facebook
is my friend either.
Speaker 5 (08:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
I think I'll just stick with LinkedIn. And now for
lesson number five. This is one of my favorites. It's
from my childhood friend and personal trainer to the stars,
Michael Keeney. As we know on cheeters and backstabbers, there
is no shortage of her crazy stories. We can always
learn from our tragic experiences. With other people. But this
(08:41):
guest teaches us that sometimes the most important lesson we
can learn is from ourselves. Michael teaches us to never
cheat on yourself. He should know because he was engaged
to his beautiful fiance for many, many months. They said
a wedding date, they sent out invitations, she bought her dress,
But deep down, Michael knew he was not being true
(09:03):
to himself and he couldn't get married. In fact, he
had to get out of town to figure out exactly
why that was.
Speaker 7 (09:10):
And so like, I picked up all of my stuff
and just moved to New York. I finished all my contracts,
and I.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Just moved here.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
I remember that we were like, he's not going to
make it a week.
Speaker 7 (09:19):
And then I got to New York and I started
working at a gay bar shout out flaming saddles, and
I got drunk one night and went home with one
of the bartenders. And then still like was still sleeping
with women and sleeping with men and going through this
huge battle of not being able to figure out like
who I was, and hating myself the entire time because
(09:42):
every time I sobered up, I had so much shame
because I hated me and I think that if you're
thinking about like cheating on someone, like I believe that
if I was allowed to love myself and be who
I wanted to be my entire life, that this is
so dumb to I get emotional about, but like I
think that my potential was so high and it's so again.
(10:05):
I've done so many wonderful things and I'm so happy
and I wouldn't change anything. But if I didn't have
to figure out who I was through getting wasted every
night and doing rails of drugs and like awful, terrible
things with if I didn't have to do that, if
I liked me and I could have shown up to
New York and just like been able to give my
(10:25):
best I don't know where I would be right now.
I can tell you that I am extremely happy, and
I've been sober for six years and thank you. But
it wasn't until I got sober that I realized, like
I was still like needing alcohol and drugs to be
sexually explorative and shame. There was so much shame.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
I think a lot of it is cultural. A lot
of it is very much cultural of how we grew.
Speaker 7 (10:51):
Up exactly, and the lack of information and my dad
was the kindest, gentlest man, but was very simple and
like he and I didn't have a great relationship. He
told me if I married a man that he wouldn't
come to my wedding. Like fast forward. He died very young.
He died at sixty five from cancer. He didn't take
great care of himself, but like he did meet my
now husband. And what I can say is like, if
(11:14):
you are authentically you, if you don't cheat on yourself
like my I remember I'm on a date with somebody
else and my husband walked in the room and everything stopped.
I remember what he looked like, and he did not
want to be at the house, by the way, my
now husband at the time. No, at the time, he
was not my husband. I was still sleeping with men
(11:35):
and women. I was sleeping with women up until I
met my husband, which is wild. If you are who
you are, you're not going to cheat on yourself. You're
going to give yourself the best because that's what you
deserve at all times. And your back should be strong,
your heart can be open. If you are authentically you,
(11:56):
when things are stabbing you in the back, you're able
to show face and move forward. If there's shame. Then
your back is weak and you crumble, and every single
one of those knives digs deeper and deeper into you.
And when those knives are self inflicted, they're even worse
because you don't have the hands to get them out
if you're putting them in. That's what she said.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Oh what a beautiful lesson. I love Michael and I'm
so happy he's been able to find his happily ever
after and we want you all to have that same experience.
So for all you cheaters and backstabbers listeners out there,
please know that you can have a happy ending too,
and you can learn from these crazy mistakes.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Thanks for listening, and remember to be true to yourself
and find your next lover on LinkedIn. Would be sure
to stay away from a hoble sexuals and when all
else fails, spike cheat.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
That's it for today's lesson. Thanks for listening.
Hey listeners, Today we have a very special episode for you.
We're switching things up a little bit and we're doing
the top five lessons we have learned from our amazing
guests so far.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
That's right, everything from SPIKEE cheating to dating tips on LinkedIn,
We've heard it all and want to share with these
the hilarious, shocking, and sometimes practical advice we have done.
I'm cheating and backstabbing, So without further ado, here we go.
Hi everyone, I'm Shody Diaz from the Bronx, New York
(00:32):
and I'm a New York City stand up comedian.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
And I'm Kate Robards. I'm from a small town in
Texas and I'm also a New York City comedian. And
this is Cheaters and Backs to Evers countdown time. Let's
go ahead and start with our very first episode, Number one,
SPIKEE cheating.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
This guest tells us that sometimes if you have a
cheater in your life, the best revenge is SPIKEE cheating.
Let's listen to comedian Karen Fihan says.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
More, he certainly started cheating on me. He would like
come home at like ten am eleven am with like
dragon breath and like try to hook up with me,
and I would just be like eh ow And it
sort of just like went on like that for a while,
and then, you know, slowly your brain kind of goes, well,
if somebody else comes along, I'm like not going to
reject them, I'm gonna actually maybe like give them a shot.
(01:22):
So I started working at Sushi Samba. I was super
attracted to one of the waiters that I worked with,
and you know, we started going out and like drinking
together and hanging out and started hooking up. And when
my ex used to cheat on me, he would like
do it outside of our apartment, like he would like
stay at a girl's house or maybe at like a
friend's house. Yeah, I mean he would come home at
like ten am. It's like that's and a lot of
(01:43):
times I was like him, yeah, he's all. I would
accuse him and he'd be like, you're crazy, you know,
just full gaslighting. Yeah, gaslighting worked on me when I
was in my twenties. I was like, you're right, I'm crazy.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Yeah. That was my jam too, Yeah, like, oh you together.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
It's a very funny story about our relationship. We were
also pretty toxic and he's a serial cheater. So it
took like a few times getting cheated on by him
for me to spite cheat. But when I cheat around, Yeah,
when I cheated on him, he found a couple condoms.
And I had a dog at this point, not Mabel,
my old dog, Ernest, And I told Louis that I
(02:17):
had been using the condoms to put on Ernest's feet
to protect them from the salt on the snow, and.
Speaker 5 (02:23):
He believed me.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Yikes, the next time your man's dog has snow boot eas,
he might want to ask a few questions. Next up
is number two.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Our friend comedian black Rose tells us about how to
avoid a hobo sexual. Little vocabulary. What is a hobo sexual?
It's a person without a home who starts dating you
and just moves right in.
Speaker 6 (02:45):
So as soon as that month came in, he started
with the squatter's rites energy. He was waiting or looking
for ways to someone to send him mails to my house.
He started talking openly like how he really was, which
wasn't saying. Him and his brother will talk on the
phone on speaker. He will call me a Mexican every day.
(03:05):
And now I'm like, is do or die for me?
Like I got to get you the hell out of
my house. So I stood in front of the van
and I wouldn't let them drive off because I'm like you,
I was telling the girl you need to get out.
Like he's like, oh, be careful, she's crazy.
Speaker 5 (03:19):
And I'm like, he's the one that's crazy. Girl.
Speaker 6 (03:21):
You're trying to help her. I'm trying to help her.
And then that's when he came back, and that's when
he gets physical and he's trying to like you told
me he was going to give me the five hundred
dollars to move out of here to get my car fixed.
This that In the third, my son is in his room,
comes in. He's like, you're not gonna treat my mother
like this. You're not going to extort my mom. My
(03:43):
son is seventeen years old at this time. My son
is not that tall and this guy is really tall.
So I'm like, told my son to just move away
from him. It's okay. I got this. My son was like,
are you sure, and I said yes. He closes the door.
Five minutes later, I have or ten minutes later, I
have a cops in my house.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
So I heard you say hobosexual. Another new vocabulary term
for us, what is a hobosexual?
Speaker 6 (04:10):
So a hobo sexual is someone that finds interest in
women or men.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
That have a place to stay for them because they
are unhost because they are unhoused.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Yeah, and the word hobo means like homeless.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Yes.
Speaker 6 (04:26):
So I have some advice for you guys. Never, and
I mean never, no, never in your life date a
hobo sexual.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
I'm so glad Black Rose could learn her lesson. I
hate that she went through it, but I'm glad she
learned and hopefully we can learn from her too. To
all of our cheaters and backstabbers listeners out there, let's
take a pledge never date a hobo sexual.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
So true. Now let's move on to lesson three. Our
friend and comedian Ask for Aiden tells all about finding
dates on LinkedIn.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
I go shopping on LinkedIn for what all the time?
Speaker 1 (05:06):
From men?
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Do you know that?
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Let me tell you something that smart thing about Lincoln?
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Okay, let me tell you something. Let me tell you
about let.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Me let me tell you something about LinkedIn. Okay, First
of all, dress for the man you want, honestly. Actually yeah,
but here's the thing. Actually, I'm part of a I'm
part of a group called like out or whatever it
is on LinkedIn, and I will scroll through those people
that I'm like I'm connected with, and I'll see where
(05:36):
they work and what they do, and I'll maybe connect
and say hey, Hope Paul as well.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
So you just look at their pages, you like, look
them up on LinkedIn. You know they can see when
you look.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
I want them to see that.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
So you want them congratulations on your fifth year.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Yeah, I'll be like, hey, congratulations. If they post something,
I'll be like, hey, congratulations on that you know, award
or whatever. But now you know I'm going after like
CEOs wow.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Oscar never fails to be innovative. Forget finding a job.
Let's all use LinkedIn to find a date. Can I
say Ceo Hello?
Speaker 2 (06:18):
But social media is not always your friend? Remember that.
For this next lesson Lesson number four, we hear from
our friends and comedian Eva Evams. As is always the
case on cheaters and backstabbers, Eva had to learn the
hard way that Facebook is not always your friend.
Speaker 5 (06:34):
Yeah, we would say other for two years like that,
And we went to a baby shower together and this
girl was like Hi, Hi, Like he said his name.
I don't want to say his name because I don't
want care him cloud. But he said hi, so and
so all, and he was so nervous, like he was
like sweating and breathing all. I'm like, you're good. He's like, yeah,
(06:54):
let's hurry up and just get our gift and get
out of here. I'm like, but it turned out to
be the cousin of the girl that he had gotten
pregnant around my back. Yet I didn't even Oh yeah,
I don't tell you that.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (07:04):
So not only did he cheat, but he got the
shorty pregnant. So that's that's that's the game.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
How did you find all this out?
Speaker 5 (07:09):
Facebook? Shout out to Facebook? Facebook, I ain't been on Facebook.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Since somebody left the message I was in.
Speaker 5 (07:16):
Two thousand and fourteen.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
You haven't been on it since?
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Oh my gosh, would like you see a picture of
a sonogram? What is it? No?
Speaker 2 (07:23):
I have?
Speaker 5 (07:23):
Well, okay, So he had asked me to marry him.
He's like, oh, I want to get married. I'm like
he he was like, all that's going down to city Hall.
So I'm like, no, I want to go to Jamaica.
My family gonna be there. And the man that I
wanted to work we down the aisle and my father
figure he can't come to America. So I was like,
I really want to go to Jamaica. So I went
on Facebook to tell my family, like, hey, somebody asked
(07:46):
me to marry them, like, you know, heads up. And
then that's when I seen the message. And it was
such like a disgusting message, like it was so like
it was really mean. It wasn't even from the girl.
It's from her cousin, the girl that you met the
baby at the baby shower? What does she say? Do
you still have the message? I don't even know my
Facebook path? I mean, I was just so challenged. I
just love to website.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Facebook's dead.
Speaker 5 (08:06):
Yeah, no, wonder you don't answer my messages? Yeah, I
don't go on Facebook that well that's.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Oh Eva. After hearing your story, I'm not sure Facebook
is my friend either.
Speaker 5 (08:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
I think I'll just stick with LinkedIn. And now for
lesson number five. This is one of my favorites. It's
from my childhood friend and personal trainer to the stars,
Michael Keeney. As we know on cheeters and backstabbers, there
is no shortage of her crazy stories. We can always
learn from our tragic experiences. With other people. But this
(08:41):
guest teaches us that sometimes the most important lesson we
can learn is from ourselves. Michael teaches us to never
cheat on yourself. He should know because he was engaged
to his beautiful fiance for many, many months. They said
a wedding date, they sent out invitations, she bought her dress,
But deep down, Michael knew he was not being true
(09:03):
to himself and he couldn't get married. In fact, he
had to get out of town to figure out exactly
why that was.
Speaker 7 (09:10):
And so like, I picked up all of my stuff
and just moved to New York. I finished all my contracts,
and I.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Just moved here.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
I remember that we were like, he's not going to
make it a week.
Speaker 7 (09:19):
And then I got to New York and I started
working at a gay bar shout out flaming saddles, and
I got drunk one night and went home with one
of the bartenders. And then still like was still sleeping
with women and sleeping with men and going through this
huge battle of not being able to figure out like
who I was, and hating myself the entire time because
(09:42):
every time I sobered up, I had so much shame
because I hated me and I think that if you're
thinking about like cheating on someone, like I believe that
if I was allowed to love myself and be who
I wanted to be my entire life, that this is
so dumb to I get emotional about, but like I
think that my potential was so high and it's so again.
(10:05):
I've done so many wonderful things and I'm so happy
and I wouldn't change anything. But if I didn't have
to figure out who I was through getting wasted every
night and doing rails of drugs and like awful, terrible
things with if I didn't have to do that, if
I liked me and I could have shown up to
New York and just like been able to give my
(10:25):
best I don't know where I would be right now.
I can tell you that I am extremely happy, and
I've been sober for six years and thank you. But
it wasn't until I got sober that I realized, like
I was still like needing alcohol and drugs to be
sexually explorative and shame. There was so much shame.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
I think a lot of it is cultural. A lot
of it is very much cultural of how we grew.
Speaker 7 (10:51):
Up exactly, and the lack of information and my dad
was the kindest, gentlest man, but was very simple and
like he and I didn't have a great relationship. He
told me if I married a man that he wouldn't
come to my wedding. Like fast forward. He died very young.
He died at sixty five from cancer. He didn't take
great care of himself, but like he did meet my
now husband. And what I can say is like, if
(11:14):
you are authentically you, if you don't cheat on yourself
like my I remember I'm on a date with somebody
else and my husband walked in the room and everything stopped.
I remember what he looked like, and he did not
want to be at the house, by the way, my
now husband at the time. No, at the time, he
was not my husband. I was still sleeping with men
(11:35):
and women. I was sleeping with women up until I
met my husband, which is wild. If you are who
you are, you're not going to cheat on yourself. You're
going to give yourself the best because that's what you
deserve at all times. And your back should be strong,
your heart can be open. If you are authentically you,
(11:56):
when things are stabbing you in the back, you're able
to show face and move forward. If there's shame. Then
your back is weak and you crumble, and every single
one of those knives digs deeper and deeper into you.
And when those knives are self inflicted, they're even worse
because you don't have the hands to get them out
if you're putting them in. That's what she said.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Oh what a beautiful lesson. I love Michael and I'm
so happy he's been able to find his happily ever
after and we want you all to have that same experience.
So for all you cheaters and backstabbers listeners out there,
please know that you can have a happy ending too,
and you can learn from these crazy mistakes.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Thanks for listening, and remember to be true to yourself
and find your next lover on LinkedIn. Would be sure
to stay away from a hoble sexuals and when all
else fails, spike cheat.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
That's it for today's lesson. Thanks for listening.
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Shari Diaz
Kate Robards
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