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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Hi, everyone, Welcome to the cheekis Chill Podcast. I'm so
happy that you're here, and anyone that knows me knows
I love a good reality TV show. I'm not sure
if it's because I started out in reality TV or
because I find it really entertaining, but anyway, one of
my favorite shows right now is Netflix's Love Is Blind.
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Emilia and I watch it all the time together, and
the latest season, season nine, just rapped, so I thought
it was the perfect opportunity to talk to someone about
the show. I'm especially interested in learning what it takes
to get cast on the show, what kind of personalities
apply to be on the show, and also I want
to know if there have been any casting regrets. You
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guys know me, I always have a lot of questions.
Today we're going to be talking to Donna Driscoll. She's
the casting director for Love Is Blind, Married at for
Site and a ton of other reality TV shows you
know and love, So welcome Donna to the podcast. I'm
so excited to talk to you.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
You know, it's funny in all the years that I've
been doing this, it's my first podcast, so.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Really, Oh my gosh, yay. I love that we have
an exclusive here, so thank you so much. I really
do appreciate you taking the time. I know you're really busy,
and you know, I want to start off by asking, like,
what are the responsibilities of a casting director?
Speaker 2 (01:29):
No, that's a great question.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
I don't know that a lot of people fully understand,
you know, what the role of a casting director is.
And also there's so many different positions in the department.
So the way that it works is I assemble a team, right,
I assemble a team of people who are obviously I mean,
I honestly think I have the best in the business
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working on leve Is Blind specifically and all of our
shows at kinetict.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
But we assemble the team first.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
The team is in charge of sourcing time, right, and
so that's whether it comes from our application site or
that's if they're out there scouting online, which is common
across every show, like from competition to cooking to relationship
to dating. Everybody scouts online, right, And so then they
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vet them for the project, and then they interview them
for the project.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
And that's my.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Team is who pitches the people they think would be
great for the experiment, and then I select the people
that we're going to present to the network and to
the showrunners of Love is Blind. And at the end
of the day, it's the network who decides on the
final cast.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
And you've been a casting director for twenty years, right.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Oh yeah, very long time. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
And you've been on this as a casting director on
this show since it.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Started, yes, since season one?
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Oh wow. See that's awesome. And do you watch every season?
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Absolutely? Yeah, yeah, oh a million percent.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
So I feel like I've done I think twenty seasons.
Have married at first Sight, all of the seasons of
Love is Blind, ultimatum marry or move on, and also
Ultimatum Queer Love. A lot of relationship shows, so yes,
I watch all of them. I'm obsessed with relationship shows
and love in general.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
So nice. Have you guys caught someone like maybe they
showed you one face when you guys were interviewing them,
and then on the show it turned out to be
something different?
Speaker 4 (03:31):
You know?
Speaker 3 (03:32):
That's also something because we're so my team and I
and everybody who is close to Love is Blind and
who works behind the scenes on Love is Blind, we're
so protective about the experiment, and I think that it's
important for people to understand that there's so much vetting
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that goes into it from the very beginning, right, And yes,
people will, I mean we've seen We saw it with
Trevor who ended up on the show in a relationship,
which was devastating to our team because we always feel
like really intentional about the people we're putting in the pods,
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because it's almost like a sliding doors moment, Yeah, where
I almost feel like, too, if somebody gets cold feet
and they drop out, I'm like, oh my gosh, but
what if they were meant to meet their soulmate in
this experiment, you know what I mean. And so when
somebody does come in for the wrong reasons, I get
it's more of like a man was that just like
a destined moment for somebody else to be in that
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spot to find their person. And so that's why we just, yes,
it can happen, absolutely, and we do everything possibly can.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Yeah, and that's like out of your hands, you know,
It's like we really thought, and there are people out
there that you know, well, all of us, and it's
happened to me, and it's happened in so many different situations.
I do think the speriment is beautiful. I think it's awesome.
Like when I first started watching, I'm like, this is amazing.
This is how it should be. Like Obviously, being attracted
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to someone physically is important, but what's more important and
what's everlasting is being attracted to how they think. If
you guys are on the same page morally and spiritually
or you know what I mean. And I think it's
actually pretty genius. You know, are there like certain red flags,
certain things that you're like absolutely not, Like, is there
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something specific that you guys all know? Okay, if this
person has this trait, we're definitely not going with that person.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
I think, without getting too in the weeds with what
because there are so many.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Flags that we look for.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Okay, it's always.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
About it's always surrounded by dating intentionally, right, and so
you look a lot. We look a lot at their
dating history, We look a lot at the relationships that
they have with their exes. We look alone lot at
like what their.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Five year goal is.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Oh nice, you know, in terms professionally, because what we're
looking for is eligibility, intentional reasons for being in the pods, authenticity.
We're looking for so many different things. There's so many
boxes to check off to make it into the pods,
you know, to even make it to an interview, and
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so yeah, so it's a really long process, but very thorough.
I would say, I think that it's very difficult for
people to understand that because they're only saying the group
that's in the pods.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
You know, yeah for sure. Yeah, And there's like a
I heard that there's a background check. Obviously, we got
to you know, know that they are you know, good
people in the sense of not doing anything crazy in
the world. Yes, but also there's like a three hundred
question like I can't never say that word compatibility, thank you,
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thank you so much. I can never say an yeah,
but so is this true? Is that true?
Speaker 2 (07:05):
It's absolutely true.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
The compatibility questionnaire is a key piece for us too
in terms of figuring out with the ensemble that we
have in the pods, if they're going to be compatible
with each other.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Compatibility is always at the forefront of what we're looking
at too.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Whenever we're selecting that group to go in, we want
to make sure that everybody hasn't has options, sometimes multiple options, and.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
So that is that is key.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
It covers everything though, I mean, I honestly would say,
and I joke about this within our team, is that
like all of us should fill out this compatibility questionnaire
before we get married.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Yeah, I was about to ask you that. I was like,
I need to see this. I would love so I
would love to take here myself, my husband and I.
Are there any like regrets in regards to like casting
someone or it's just a learning experience.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
I don't have any regrets about putting anybody because here's
the thing is that absolutely people come to the application site.
Absolutely we source talent to go into the pods. However,
everything that happens after that requires the will of the candidate, right,
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and so they've gone through every step and it's not
for the it's not easy like what we ask of
them to complete before the pods. And so I feel
like that question would be more suited for someone who
was on.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
The show, you know.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
And I think the one thing that if I did
have any if I had to look back at anything,
it was people that I had a really big heart
for and people that I knew really had a great
shot of finding the level of their life in the pods,
and they ended up dropping out because either their job
wouldn't allow it, or they didn't have the support of
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their family that it's like, like I mentioned before, it's
like that sliding doors moment where I'm just like what
if you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Yeah, because everyone that's in there, we're all like, like
you know, rooting for and so I think for that,
like when there's been moments where someone just they get
disappointed or someone chose someone else and they just leave
so sad. I'm like this, they deserve, like I want
them to be happy. So I think that's like where
I've even cried, to be honest. So I'm like, oh
my goodness, I was really hoping that they found that
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they were matching, like why did he choose her? You know?
And I'm like, you know, I get really involved.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Yeah, No, I think we all do too. And I
think that.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
I think that it's important to know too that we
are all rooting for this, Like we're in the business
of love, like at the end of the day, so
that is the big goal. We want to be able
to find opportunities for people to find their people. Yeah,
and so when it doesn't work out, it is devastating.
But I will say this, and it's because what love
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is blind does in terms of ironing out what you
need to iron out in terms of what you're looking
for and a forever partner, Like if you didn't have
that fully figured out during the experiment where you didn't
find it, most at least we've seen a lot of it,
and we've also talked about this on the team the
casting team, is that if they didn't find love in
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the pods, it's very interesting to me for the people
who find it just pretty shortly after. And it's not
because of it's because the work that they put in.
It's a lot that we ask of people from the
casting process to the vulnerability that comes out in the pods,
and so that there's a lot of work happening, you
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know internally.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
Yeah, it probably opens up a different side and makes
them think differently about love. So it's you know, I
can only imagine because they're in the pods, is it
how many weeks?
Speaker 2 (10:56):
There's ten, ten to twelve days in the fund.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Right, Yeah, Okay, so I knew it was like at
least like a two week period that they're in the pods.
So before that they have the questionnaire, they have the
process they go through with you guys, and it's like
I think it's a huge learning process. Like talking about
the whole regret thing. I think even if a person
goes on and didn't find their love on love is Blind,
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they learned so much that then, like you said, soon
after they're like, Okay, now I'm more emotionally intelligent. Now
I know what to look for, what not to look for.
And I think it's going to help regardless. You know
that too.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
And in addition to that, it's the bonds that they
build in the pods I think with the people, the
women and the men that they've been going through the
process with yea, because now they have this group of
people that have been through something that is so unique
and special that no one else in their life has
been through. But they are all now at this point
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likely dating intentionally, and really they're able to have those
conversations to allow each other to kind of like figure
out what it is they're looking for and like what
doesn't work for them and how to move forward to
a path to find the love of their life.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
You know, yeah, for sure. And when you are doing
the casting, because it's it's how many women, how many men?
Speaker 4 (12:19):
Again, we've it's been a minimum of thirty, but we're
happy to do over that if we feel like it's
a good group, Like Minneapolis was our largest group yet,
and so I think like it's thirty plus.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Oh my goodness. Okay, and then you guys kind of
in that group, like there has to be some like
where you like, Okay, this will be a match. Like
what am I trying to say? What I'm trying to
say is they're compatible, yes, compatible and knowing m So.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Here's the thing.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
There's certain things that happen when we're casting, and we
like if we.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Find like, let's a Jess, you know, we're like, oh.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
My gosh, yeah, we need to make sure that we
have somebody like who do we have that would be
compatible with Jess? And then we always think about that, right,
But it's just like real life where two people can
completely work on paper, but then in person they may
not have that compatibility, that physical chemistry compatibility, and that's
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that's that's real.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
That's a real thing, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
And so sometimes we can be like, yes, these two
are going to find their way to eat, they're going
to be happily ever after Oh my gosh, yay, you
can't wait. But then sometimes real life comes into play
and it's just not it's not a match, you know
what I mean. And so it plays out just like
it would in the normal dating world, you know, And
that's why it's an experiment, right. So yeah, it's like
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when we're we're going out through to the cast, like
we're not saying love is blind.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
That's why this experiment exists. Is love blood? That's always
been the question, right.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Yes, it is lovelind uh huh. Yeah, So love is
mind is a a fast tracked marriage and it's very unconventional. Right,
But can you share some of the most like memorable
stories you've heard about why someone wants to be on
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the show.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Yeah, that's you know, it's so interesting because.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
I think that we're noticing something very much in twenty
twenty five, specifically where the reason why they're applying is
because dating apps are really really horrible. Yeah, And that's
just like everybody's going to say that, and that's a
very like we completely understand that is absolutely true. Dating
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apps are horrible, right yea, and very difficult and very
time consuming. So but I think the more beautiful one
that I've seen and that I appreciate the most are
the ones where you know, somebody's been in a relationship
for a very long time that they thought would lead
to marriage and for some reason it ended up blowing
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up or it didn't work out, and then they're forced
to then really do the work on themselves and figure
out what is going to make them happy. And there's
been like I mean, this is like the ideal scenarios
when they've taken the time to do the work right
and then now they're ready to take the ultimate leap
of faith to then experience something like love is blind.
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So that's one. Another one that's common, sadly is people
who have lost a loved one recently and so they
find themselves, you know, realizing like tomorrow's not promised. I
like a big I'm going to take a big risk
for a big reward, and that's why I want to
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put myself out there.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
So that's another one.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
But a lot of the times too, and this is
more common than any of the ones I mentioned, is
that everybody has everything going great in their life, Like
they have the house, they have the job, they have
the car, they have the amazing friend group, they have
a great family, super supportive.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
All they're missing is that is their person you know.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Yeah, and mm hmm. I can see that because I
have friends that feel like I have everything going for me.
Everything seems very it's perfect, and they're like, why can't
I find that person? And I always say, I'm like,
you know, it's it's important, and that's what I did.
It's like, let's look inward and say, Okay, what are
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there certain things that I can change and that I've
I've learned in relationships that don't work out for me
that I can correct in order to find that person.
Because I mean, I really do think there's love out
there for everyone. I do believe in that love is
the moving force of the universe. I'm a freaking like
I want everyone to be in love. But I think
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it's just like you said, it's process, and it's like
it's really trying doing this. I think this to me,
it was very interesting. That's why I kept asking you
about if this was true, about the questions, because I'm like, wow,
I've never taken like some type of I guess, you know.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
Like an inventory of like what it is you want?
An inventory because a lot of people spend a lot
of time wanting to be desired, and they don't think about.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
What it is they're looking for.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Oh my goodness, yes, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
And so I think, like that's the biggest readiness piece,
you know, is that it's not I'm not looking to
be desired or chosen. I'm looking to find someone who
loves me for me, you know, yes, because to be
to be loved is to be understood, right, So I
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think like that that is like kind of like when
you're when I'm taught, we're looking at all of these
interviews that come in because the casting producers they run
the interviews, We watch the interviews, we figure out who
we're going to show to the network. And it's these
like kind of like deep layers of exploration in terms
of readiness that we take note of for sure.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
And do you have a favorite season or like a
favorite cast member?
Speaker 3 (18:18):
You know, It's so funny because a lot of people
ask me, like who my favorites are, and I I
feel like I don't have a favorite city because and
I think Nick and Vanessa said this best recently on
an interview, every single city, just like Merred it first sight,
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every single city because we always cast in the same city.
And I think people the reason why we do that is,
so that when the cameras leave, there's a support system
already in place for this beautiful couple that has found
each other through the experiment. Right, But then also I
don't have to uproot their entire lives to make it happen.
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But every single city has their own flavor.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
Like yeah, yes, I've noticed.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
Yeah, there is like no question about that at all.
So I feel like every city brings a certain a
certain little spice. But in terms of favorites, it's almost
like I can't. I would, I would tick too many
people off to.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Say, but I feel like I can imagine.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
I feel like if I was to say, the types
of people are the people that have like really just
been the most authentic through the process, you know, like
that's that's really it.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
I know it's a lame answer, and you want to know.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Not no, no, no, no, it's not a lame answer. And
I appreciate that because I mean I had to ask,
because I got just going to ask. But of course
it would be you're the you know, you're the casting director.
You have to like of course love everyone and you know,
but I I like that answer.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
But see that's the thing is, like I do I
literally do I think that what the viewers would. I mean,
like it's almost like Taylor Hastings said it best recently,
and she just said, the amount of bravery that it
takes for people to do this is astonishing. You're putting
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yourself on a world stage, You're putting yourself out there
for love, and like to be brave enough to do
that is like such a beautiful thing. And I have
a tremendous amount of respect for everybody who's entered the
pods authentically, And that's why I get so surprised sometimes
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how judgmental the audience can really be, because like they
haven't really stepped into these shoes, and it's just it's
so incredibly intimate, sensitive, vulnerable, personal, all of those things,
you know what I mean, Because it's like you're searching
for love, you.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Know, Yeah, for sure, Because I've even asked myself while
watching the show, like would I do this? Like my
husband and I we watch it together, so we ask
each other, and I think at this point of my life,
I would if I wasn't married, I'd be like yeah,
Like I feel like I know myself enough and I
know what I want and I've made so many mistakes
that I learned from that. I'd be like, I'm ready,
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I know what I'm looking for. I'm vulnerable enough because
you cry in there, you're in the lot, they talk
about so many things. I sit there and I'm crying
with them, and I'm just like, I really get involved.
So I love that you said that that It's just
it's unfair that sometimes the audience is very judgmental because
you think, oh, it's so easy, like no, you have
to try to put yourself in people's shoes like this
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is These are real people that, like the people that
come in to the show, into the pods authentically, that
are really there for the right reasons. It's like they're
there and they're being vulnerable, like they're really trying to
find their person. And I get that because there's so
many people that are just on a screen tell like
just judging. It's like, you don't, we don't know until
worthy you know.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
Yeah, No, it's a huge sign of being courageous, I think.
And also, you know, I mean I feel like too
a lot of people would assume, like even when they're
in the casting process, that it's scripted or that we're
telling them who to connect with or telling them what
to do. I know for a fact that there have
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been some people who have come not thinking like they're
not doing this for the right reasons, but thinking like,
am I really.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Going to be able to find my person in here
in this way? Like that feels like very crazy, you
know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Yeah, And those people who have been the most skeptical,
you know, during the casting process or had the most questions,
are awesome because that means to us that they're taking
it seriously right, and that I would say that the
person that really like that I can mention is that
who took it so seriously. And I think spent hours
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on the phone with Megan Feldman, who are casting manager.
She's incredible. She's been on the show also since season one.
It was Zach Kwitowski who has Bliss and.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Their baby, you know what I mean, see, and he
was a little skeptical.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
I think most people, I mean, I think it's a
little skepticism is okay, you know, like am I really
going to find my person?
Speaker 1 (23:28):
And that?
Speaker 3 (23:30):
Yeah? But then there's some people are like diehard romantics
for their like I know I will find the love
of my life absolutely this way, why, you know, so
you have like it's.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
It's just like it's art imitates life.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
There's a billion different types of personalities, a billion different
people's approach, a billion different belief systems in terms of
the process, but it's really how you show up that
that is like that special ingredient that's going to change
the outcome for sure.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
I love I'm so glad I was able to talk
to you because I could feel it. You're this is
this is a passion. This is very serious to you,
and I am. Obviously it has to be because of
the importance of it, but I feel it, and I
appreciate that. As as a viewer, I really appreciate that.
So I hear you speak and you're like, no, this
is serious work, guys. This is not like it's not
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just a television show for us to watch the listeners.
You know, this is real and these are real people
on there. They're not actors. I've heard someone I don't
remember who I was at a dinner and they're like, oh,
we were talking about Love is Blind, and they're like,
I think there's a bunch of actors in there. There
has to be a few, and I'm like, I really
don't think so it was a whole conversation. So yeah,
you know, thank goodness Don is here to tell us
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that's funny.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
I mean that would be so that'd be crazy, that
would be insane, that would be like, Yeah, it's like
it's like almost like a like a like what is
it like a candid camera or something?
Speaker 2 (24:58):
But no, I mean would we didn't.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
That's the beautiful part too, is like it's almost like
the complexities of the people that are in there. It's
almost like they're too real to believe, you know. So,
I mean I would take that, I would take that
as a compliment to the people, is that they are
like showing up as themselves, you know what I mean
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so much in fact that it's like are these actors because.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Yeah, they're just say here, this is apologetically myself.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Yes, yes, yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
My last question, do you feel like you have learned
anything from like working on the show, anything that like
you've taken into your personal relationships hmm or your relationship?
Speaker 2 (25:42):
Yeah. No, I'm married. I've been married for how long
have I've been married? Ten years? Going on eleven this month,
next week, week, tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Congratulations, congratulations.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Yeah, I should probably go get a card, but I
think that the one thing that I've learned the most
is that I feel really grateful to be married. In
this you know, twenty twenty five, I think, you know,
dating apps have made it really really hard, and I
think social media also equally makes it hard. And I
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think that's why I've fallen in love with the experiment
since day one, was because it was like getting back
to kind of the way I found my husband. So
he found me on MySpace and we wrote letters to
each other for like a few months before we met
in person, and it was so romantic, you know, And
I think like that is one of the key things
to love is blind that a lot of viewers don't understand,
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Like how did they.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
Say I love you?
Speaker 3 (26:42):
And it's like it's so romantic, Like when you think
about it, it's like you're just like in this love bubble,
you know. And but yeah, I just feel really grateful
to be married and to have found my person because
I have seen and so many different cities. Now how
difficult it is for the singles. Yeah, and so for sure,
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especially nowadays, Oh gosh, so much. Right, But yeah, I
mean I think it's like just trying. Like that's what
I said before, is like just trying to understand each other.
Like I think that's something that I try to implement,
Like every day that you know you're married, is just
trying to understand.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
And be intentional and yes, yeah, because that's that's what
I love about the experiment is it's like it's it's
kind of going old school, like let's talk and we're
really asking each other profound questions. And I think that's
what's missing right now. I tried before I got married.
I tried obviously the dating apps is just it was
it was not cute. Everyone's just trying to have sex
(27:47):
and it's just like, wait, I'm really trying to get
to know someone in their heart and it's very difficult
to meet people. Now, I'm like, what happened to meeting
people at the library? You know? So you know what
I mean. Like, so yeah, that's why I am telling you.
I absolutely love the show and I'm just so grateful
that you gave us your time and answered our questions
or my questions, and I appreciate it. It just definitely
(28:10):
like if I already love the show, now knowing all
of this, it makes me love and appreciate it even
more because I know there's a lot of work to it,
and I kind of already knew, but now I really know,
so I really appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
Yeah, of course, thank you.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
Yeah, and you guys, I hope you enjoyed this episode,
And if you haven't caught up on this season, make
sure you do. Don't forget that. The reunion is this
Wednesday on Netflix. It premieres at six pm Pacific time,
nine pm Eastern, and I will be watching along with you, guys. Okay,
And for those of you who can't get enough of
Love is Blind, check out some of our past episodes
(28:46):
with Nancy Rodriguez from season three and sal Perez from
season two. Besito Romo, and I'll see you on the
next episode of Cheeky's and Chill. This is a production
of iHeart Radio and the Micaeldura podcast Network. Follow us
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