March 12, 2024 • 26 mins
This is the intro episode to season 2 of choosing sides F1 - a podcast that blends sports, cultural commentary, humor and a deep love for the pinnacle of motorsports. If our first season was all about Michael Kosta's induction into the sport, for season two, Toni Cowan-Brown (Tech and F1 commentator) takes him much deeper down the rabbit hole.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Hello, yo, Hi, It's Michael Costa from remember F one?
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Oh yeah, how's it going?
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Well? Personally it's fine, but this F one stuff I
don't I don't get it. It's now a good time
to talk. Can I call you back? Look, I don't
get what's going on. You got me into Formula one
last year I reluctantly became a fan. Okay, okay, and
Ferrari sucks.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
This is my team.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
This is embarrassing. I picked them.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Yeah, well, I mean you picked them exactly. We didn't
make you pick them. We kind of told you they suck.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
You kind of told me that they were a big team.
And George Russell, he's cute and all, but put up
a result. We got to stand behind your tee because
now you got me into it, and so I'm kind
of My Instagram is buzzing. I'm getting the headlines, but
I don't know what the ship is going on. What's
up with the tires. I've changed tires once in my life.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Yeah, it's not the same thing.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
The buttons on the steering wheel looks like a video
game controller. What is each button do? What's an undercut?
What's an overcut? Why are they driving in the rains,
these celebrities in the paddock. What is the paddock? What
all these graphs and screens that the engineers are staring at?
Who's driving the fucking cars? The engineers or the driver?
What else do the people who do the pit stops do?
Is that all they do? They work for two seconds.
(01:17):
That's a great job. I wish I had that job.
I know just enough now that I know that I
don't know anything, and I blame you for that. YOHI
is that every going to say your name? Michael? I
need information, Dude. You can't just turn me into a
fan and then leave.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
I hear you. I'm in the middle here.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Sorry, go back to your family thing. I just am
confused and I'm angry, and I have you to blame
for it. For my heart Podcast one on one Studios
and Sports Illustrated Studios, This is choosing sides.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
Yes one, Wow, do.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
We win some word? Last year.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
We were nominated for two different awards.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
I think those things were all bullshit, but whatever. Still
when you win them, it's nice.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Yep, total bullshit.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Okay, let's do it. That's Tony.
Speaker 5 (02:16):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Last season, Lily guided me into this incredible sport and
helped me choose my affiliation, Lily. Yes, I need some
ownership over somebody, a team, a car, and that's missing.
Speaker 6 (02:30):
Well, have I got a podcast for you.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
You know, to give a little skin in the game.
So I knew what was going on, and I chose aside,
you chose.
Speaker 5 (02:40):
Sorry, my condolences.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Why the fuck am I so unlucky?
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Why the fuck am I so unlucky.
Speaker 5 (02:47):
Turning out for you?
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Looking back? If I could go back in time, maybe
I would revisit that decision.
Speaker 7 (02:53):
Oh my god, oh my fuck it.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
And then George was my driver. I even got a
George Russell tattoo. Okay, stop, I feel lost.
Speaker 5 (03:08):
I think I know what your problem is. Just regarding
Formula one, I say, we've just met each other. This
is therapy one on one.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Let's go.
Speaker 5 (03:18):
I think you haven't figured out yet exactly what type
of Formula one fan you are and could be.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
I don't understand. You mean there's different types of fans. Oh, yes,
so Tony, you can help me figure this out. You
can help me figure out what type of f one
fan I am.
Speaker 5 (03:37):
Oh, have I got a show for you?
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Are you going to be doing that accent? This whole
part yeah.
Speaker 5 (03:46):
Yeah, start, We'll stuck with this one, that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Before we keep going. Who are you?
Speaker 5 (03:52):
It's a good questions when I ask myself every day.
We have just wrapped the ass AJP, Tony, Caen Brown,
Hugh Tony. Hi, I'm f on Tony, but you can
also call me just Tony. I'm a tech and Formula
one commentator coming to you live from the Effie Paddock
and the Miami GP. Live from the inaugural Formula one
Vegas GP.
Speaker 8 (04:13):
I don't know if you can actually hear me because
the audience and the fans have been so incredible the
whole weekend. I'm an avid Formula one fan and have
been since nineteen ninety one.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
Wow, that I just age myself massive.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Well, I didn't mean it like that. I just meant
I just wasn't introduced.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
To it last year.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
I know.
Speaker 5 (04:33):
But has it been fun?
Speaker 1 (04:34):
It's been fun? But man, there's a lot of questions.
Speaker 5 (04:36):
Yes, yeah, there's a lot of answers to it. That's
the beauty of it.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
And do you do you feel like you have a
lot of those answers?
Speaker 5 (04:42):
Yes, I'm in, You're in, I'm all in and great, Okay,
let's get cracking.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Michael, do you I mean, I know you're a celebrity, but
this is radio, so they can't see you. Do you
want to introduce yourself as well?
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Well, Hi, my name's Michael Costa and I'm back for
season two of Choosing Sides is back in sound. I
explain this in the first season. Any activity where you
have to perform under pressure, I love watching humans step
(05:17):
up or fall in a moment of pressure fascinates me.
And man is f one like the ultimate of that
because if you if you mess up, there's there's real consequences.
It's not like tennis, my sport, where if you mess
up you hit the ball in the net.
Speaker 9 (05:35):
I know there's been some debate on Twitter about the
Miss of the Year.
Speaker 10 (05:38):
I think we have a new nominee who cares. Goodness
me stug what's from Tomovitch?
Speaker 1 (05:44):
But in this sport, if you mess up, there's danger,
there's fire, there's speed, there's tech, there's money. As far
as the logistics, the history, the sponsors, the understanding of
the sport, I am a big dumb idiot.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
That's actually how we found you were looking for somebody
who is not an expert at anything. It just doesn't
know anything to tell.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
You what you're an expert at busting my balls.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Tony, on the other hand, is an actual expert. She
was one of our guests in season one, and there's
this one thing that she said back then that stuck
with me and that I think really speaks to what
we're trying to do here in season two.
Speaker 5 (06:23):
I am a firm believer that the more you know
about something, the more you get, the more you can
enjoy the actual sport.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Yep, exactly. And it's definitely like a lot of subjects
where the more you know, the more you know that
you don't know, Yeah, you know what I mean, I
do know what you mean.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Yeah. And also the more you know that you don't know,
the more you know that you know.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Zultan, Can you just shut them down?
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Don't touch that button's all time?
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Can you shut off? As Mike, I have more to.
Speaker 5 (06:49):
Get You're high has now left the chat.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Thank you? What's the plan? What are we doing here? So?
Speaker 5 (06:55):
I feel like in season one we gave you the
basics and we help to figure out who your team
and who your driver is. Season two of Choosing Sites
is going to be the one O two. If you will.
We're going to take you, and we're going to take
this a step, fir that we're going to dive deeper
into the intricacies of the sport in an effort to
help you figure out what kind of Formula one fan
(07:18):
you are.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Michael, I didn't realize there were different F one fans.
Speaker 11 (07:22):
Talk to me, goose, Hey, guys, can you hear me?
Speaker 3 (07:24):
It is another day in Paradise.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
So over the past few months, Tony and I have
been very busy conducting dozens and dozens of interviews.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Those experts are helpful, they make me sound better, and
sometimes they interrupted me and I don't like.
Speaker 5 (07:41):
My name is Madelie Coleman.
Speaker 12 (07:43):
I'm a staff writer covering Formula one for the Athletic.
Speaker 9 (07:46):
My name's tartans LAWI Clay Kinsey aka break former F
one performance engineer.
Speaker 13 (07:52):
Professional race car driver for twenty years now, passionate about
life and pretty much everything that can fly flow. I'll
go fast.
Speaker 6 (08:01):
Lily Herman, writer editor by trade in the context of
F one, I did co host season one of Choosing
Sides F one, so I am very familiar with everyone.
I'm here to be a menace to YOHI.
Speaker 10 (08:13):
I'm sure, We're just gonna have fun and you'll pull
out the best bits.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
Hi.
Speaker 11 (08:15):
I'm Scott Mansell, founder of Driver sixty one.
Speaker 14 (08:19):
Is it fair to call you a tire heead treadhead?
Would would rhyme or we on? That could also be technically.
Speaker 15 (08:25):
I think fashion is how these personalities show who they are.
Speaker 5 (08:29):
I do have to mention the c boys.
Speaker 16 (08:31):
I think fan girls get a bad wrap. Our goal
is really just to bring people together, fan girls, fan boys.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
We talked to super fans, drivers, engineers, journalists, meteorologists, human encyclopedia.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Hello, folks, I'm Sean Kelly. All the facts and figures
you hear in a Formula one broadcast, whether they be
in the graphics, whether they be spoken by the likes
of David Croft or Martin Brundle or Alex Jakes or whomever.
I am chief responsible for all of that content.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
All people who are coming at the sport from very
different directions, but nonetheless they all are madly in love
with it. And one thing they did keep coming back
to was how layered and nuanced F one was as
a sport.
Speaker 17 (09:18):
I've always thought of Formula one is a bit like
an onion, and it has many layers. You know, you
can appreciate it just at first glance of what you see,
whatever that may be. You may find Charles the Clerk
on social media and think he looks cute or cool
or whatever and start following him, or you may be
very interested in the aerodynamic side of things. Can come
at it from a technical point of view. The point is,
(09:40):
it's all of those things and a lot more.
Speaker 6 (09:42):
It's almost like going from a two D looking at
a two D shape like a circle into a three
D sphere right, or like a square into a cube.
Like you just see more dimensions, more layers, more pandemonium,
more tension, more stakes.
Speaker 5 (09:59):
They all is this.
Speaker 6 (10:00):
The more you know about the sport, and the.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
More you stick with our show, the more layers you'll add.
Dear f one Cake.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
I think that's lovely. We're gonna take a quick break
and be right back. Hey, we're back from the quick break, Tony.
Give me a little rundown on the different types of fans.
What are my options here?
Speaker 5 (10:21):
Okay, so you could have your game farest for example,
because this isn't the game of uno. This is very
much a game of chess.
Speaker 9 (10:29):
Yes, it is in some instances especially a race.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Former F One engineer Blake Hinsey.
Speaker 9 (10:35):
If you want to watch a Formula One race and
understand what's going on, you have two options. You can
watch the race lap by lap and observe what's happening
and say it wasn't that great. But one of the
best things about Formula One is the suspense, and a
lot of people get a lot of satisfaction of having
an understanding of how the game can unfold and the variables,
(10:56):
and they want to know what's going to happen next
because they're probably watching it with their friend and it's like,
watch out for Carlos here, he's he needs to stop
soon for new tires, and without that kind of context,
you're kind of sitting there thinking what's going to happen next.
You don't have to be an expert, but having exposure
awareness of the variables at least gives so many more
(11:16):
questions and so many where things are going through your
head while you're watching a Grand Prix.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
That's game theory.
Speaker 5 (11:21):
You could be someone that just loves the strategy of
the sports.
Speaker 9 (11:24):
You know, you can have a plan and if somebody
does a different move and you do not react to
that move, and you can end up at a disadvantage
and it forces your hand, and it can put you
in a difficult spot and you may not have all
the you know that, you may not have all the
information you need to make that decision. But do you
make a pit stop to cover that car or do
(11:45):
you stay out and stick to plan A which one
pays off?
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Okay, what else statistician tough to say?
Speaker 15 (11:50):
I mean, I'm sure you've spoken to a ton of
people that are like, it's just a bunch of cars
going around in circles, isn't it.
Speaker 5 (11:56):
I think data, data and lots and lots of data.
Speaker 15 (11:59):
For me, the data driven part of fandom and the
stories which really unfold during a race or during a season,
it's it's just such a complex web of stories all
happening at once.
Speaker 10 (12:10):
And that's why I think I just get so fascinated
by it.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Tech entrepreneur trekns Lowie.
Speaker 10 (12:15):
If you're a person a fan that loves to live
in the rabbit hole, that loves to understand what's going
on beneath the surface, well, all the story, like the broadcast,
is such a narrow window on all of these events
that are going on, Like tire graining, pit stop times, overcuts, undercuts,
fuel consumption. Oh god, you understand that there's a there's
(12:37):
a much more complex web of stories going on in
one race than you can possibly see on the broadcast.
And to me, that's the real fun of it.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
I don't think I'm going to be a stattician fan.
Speaker 14 (12:48):
Well to convince it, even it is zero level, tires
are complicated, and the more you know, the more you
can enjoy watching the racing.
Speaker 5 (12:58):
Tire ahead, which I think is probably yes, we're going
to devote a whole episode.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
We well, we have to. We have to because they
talk about it so much.
Speaker 14 (13:06):
Well, look, if you were to let me talk as
long as I wanted to about tires, especially with such
a knowledgeable person as Tony here, I could go on
for hours and days just talking about tires.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
This interview with Matt Trumpet, a huge, self professed fan
of everything and anything to do with them F one
tires crazy, did in fact run pretty long.
Speaker 14 (13:31):
And I could tell you that to suspension design, the canber,
the toe, all of it is aimed at making those
tires operate in a very narrow temperature margin. And within
that narrow temperature margin, there's an even tinier sweet spot.
So if you're ever watching qualifying and suddenly somebody does
(13:51):
something extraordinary, what's really happened is they've prepared the tires
on their outlap where they drive very slowly to perfect
and then managed them perfectly throughout the lab so that
they use the very last of their grip exiting the
very last corner. The physics attires is amazing. Hysteresis and
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all of disco elastic performance and you know, glass transition temperatures.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
It's just really amazing.
Speaker 14 (14:19):
There's just a world of research that goes into these things.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Please, finally, I can't wait. That episode is where the
rubber meets the road.
Speaker 5 (14:31):
Unintended.
Speaker 10 (14:32):
Let's go.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
There's other types of fans.
Speaker 5 (14:35):
There are the logistics nerd. This is absolutely a traveling circus.
Speaker 18 (14:40):
There's nothing else like it. Really, there is nothing else
like Formula one logistically because of all the different components
that go into it. I mean we're talking about the
cars alone weigh two thousand pounds.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
This is Joe Bonpliano, entrepreneur and investor.
Speaker 18 (14:54):
It's really one of the only global sports that we have.
There are sports leagues that play in other places. There's
you know, European football teams that play friendlies in the US,
and even the NFL goes international, but Formula one is
global in its blood. It's everywhere. People need to remember that.
In some instances, Formula one is taking over, you know,
an entire downtown area or an entire track.
Speaker 5 (15:14):
Twenty three twenty four different countries, and.
Speaker 18 (15:17):
It makes it really challenging because it's not an asset
like business where you can just kind of pick yourself up,
fly over there and then do the event. It's you
need the cars, you need grand stands put up, you
need premium hospitality. You obviously need to bring hundreds of employees.
You have to have the motor homes set up and
the hospitality areas for the teams themselves.
Speaker 5 (15:34):
There's air freights, there's things that are put on the
back of trucks, there's things that are put on the
back of planes, on the back of boats. You have
to make sure that everything arrives on time.
Speaker 18 (15:44):
And that's really challenging logistically because there's so many different
moving parts.
Speaker 5 (15:49):
The logistics part is always one that I find fascinating,
especially if you talk with anyone on the logistics teams
in Formula one, they will say there's no plan B, right,
there's a Plan A, and plan has got to work.
Speaker 12 (16:01):
If you don't deliver fuel, the teams is unable to raise.
Speaker 5 (16:05):
This is Georgia Cherabasi DHL Motorsports track side Manager.
Speaker 12 (16:09):
In this case, there is no plan B because it
has to happen. They don't have any other choice other
than using their own fuel. So it's one case where yes,
we don't have any any Plan B just has to happen.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
You know, a general would say that. An amateur would
talk about tactics, right, but a professional we'll talk about logistics.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
By who are you reading a military book? Are you
just coming up with the stuff in your head right now?
I like that. Are there other types of fans? There
can't be.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
Yes, But let's goes on. Where are only halfway? Are
you here? Where there is money and where there is power,
there's always going to be drama and gossip. In Formula
one there's a lot of money and there's a lot
of power plays happening.
Speaker 16 (16:55):
Yes, lots of drama, lots of gossip.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
That was Zoe one half of the Hannah and Zoey
duo Behind Fan Behavior podcast.
Speaker 16 (17:02):
It's always funny to me whenever we get again, people
commenting about how like, why are we talking about this
sort of drama off track? Drama or something that they
don't feel like is what is on track. It's like
this sport is full of drama, and I think sport
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in general, yes, obviously the focus is what happens on
the track, and there's drama on the track, but you
also can't ignore what's happening off the track because that
also affects what happens on the track. And I think
formula one again, this plays into the Real Housewives component
of this of why people compare it to that show.
It's just it's so insular, it's so it's so tight,
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it's so close knit that I think that reads the
drama and the gossip. I think any friend group, you know,
friend group, family, there's always drama, there's always gossip, and
I think the closer you are, almost the more drama
and the more goss that there tends to be.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Okay, speed Jungle. I was going to say, we gotta
have something about speed. Speed. Yes, we haven't even mentioned that.
Speaker 5 (18:07):
We haven't mentioned that.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
That's the cause one of the corest things these things
go fast they do.
Speaker 11 (18:12):
Yeah, well, in my opinion, it's the most beautiful part
of racing.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Scott Mantle of Driver sixty one.
Speaker 11 (18:19):
The finesse. The skill that these drivers have in kind
of caressing the car into the breaking in through the
corner and extracting the very most speed that they can
is fascinating to watch. Now I'm aware it's very kind
of detailed viewing and as you get deeper and deeper
into the sport, for me, it's the most fascinating part.
Speaker 13 (18:40):
I'm going to tell you a funny story. My wife
always complained that I was training too much. I was
doing too much team, I was doing too much bicycle
and I didn't need all of that to be a
race car driver.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
And that's ex F one driver Roman Grojan aka the Phoenix.
Speaker 13 (18:54):
And then that accident in Bahrain were seventy sixty seven
g impact, got stuck in a cab fire, didn't lose consciousness,
which is amazing, and was strong enough to escape from
being locked between you know, a burrier, a halo headrest
and into far and just because I was strong enough
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and fit enough and got the energy to jump.
Speaker 7 (19:21):
Out of it, I made it.
Speaker 13 (19:22):
And since then she's like, well you can go as
much as you wanted the gym, so you know it
worked out pretty well.
Speaker 5 (19:29):
But yes, all of that homa to be able to
spend more time in the gym. Then there's the tech note.
Speaker 9 (19:34):
Everything about Formula one is engineering, so you cannot consume
any facet of Formula one without touching on engineering and
its impact on the sports, the outcomes. Everything is about numbers,
through and through. There is there is no way to
avoid engineering and Formula one. They are coupled, they are
the same.
Speaker 5 (19:54):
So this sport is tech powered.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Nerds are taken over Man.
Speaker 7 (20:00):
Noble Green nineteen fifty seven.
Speaker 5 (20:03):
Then we have a history buff coming.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Into an early lead is one Fangio number.
Speaker 7 (20:08):
One Fanjo was in a Maserati miles behind the two
Ferraris and drove out of his skin, frightening himself.
Speaker 15 (20:17):
With us at the brickyard the super Speedway Chaos Confusion range.
Speaker 5 (20:21):
For those listeners who have never heard of the very
sad two thousand and five USA Formula one start, can
you give us a quick story time A quick deepe
Sen sprinks away, but pass takes the lead.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
It's happened.
Speaker 5 (20:37):
Senna is trying to go through all the inside.
Speaker 14 (20:39):
And it's happened a major lip.
Speaker 5 (20:41):
This is amazing.
Speaker 17 (20:42):
He was otherworldly. I've never met anybody like it. And
Senna was a real kind of charismatic presence.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
James Allen a legendary efrone commentator and journalist.
Speaker 17 (20:53):
When he walked into a room, everybody stopped, all eyes
kind of you know, wow. He carried a presence like
I've never met anyone before or since. And God, could
he drive a racing car. He was so fast, you know,
and he was I think what marked him out was
his commitment. All Grand Prix drivers have a huge level
of commitment, but he was absolutely on it the whole time,
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and nothing was too much, whether it was in terms
of effort that he put into it or trying to
find a competitive edge or going over the edge. Sometimes.
Speaker 7 (21:23):
I'll give you one stat Jim Clark.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
And that's a mad bishop. Another legendary F one journalist
and the founder of Racing Pride.
Speaker 7 (21:32):
He won twenty five Grand Prix out of seventy two starts.
Guess so many times he came second.
Speaker 9 (21:37):
It was in the fifth lap, but something went wrong.
Speaker 10 (21:41):
Clark's car had not reappeared in front of the timekeeper.
Speaker 5 (21:45):
This sport has such a deep history, and there are
so many reasons why we've ended up with the sport
in the format that we have today, from the types
of cars to the types of racetracks we have.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
In the home speeds three crowding miles into minutes on
the streaming Comac, they ride with life as the passenger
death on their tails.
Speaker 7 (22:07):
Capron Lived.
Speaker 5 (22:08):
We're not quite done, but we're very close to being done.
We are close. Quick break and we'll.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
Be right back, Tony. We're back.
Speaker 5 (22:18):
Yeah, welcome back for my break. So what have we
been doing. We've been running down the list of all
the different types of fans that you could potentially be. Yeah,
and I think we've reached the last one.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
Michael Oh, okay, cool.
Speaker 12 (22:32):
Bajour from the beautiful Colt Dassour.
Speaker 5 (22:35):
I'm Michelle Costa here with your Monaco weatherfall. Last, but
not least, we have the meteorologist. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (22:42):
I get like this sense of like excitement and through
and just a genuine.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
Pumping Elizabeth Olmacher, retired stormchaser and a meteorologist for Race West.
Speaker 5 (22:55):
Does anyone else report one of the things that every
team hopes that they can control, but they know they
absolutely can't control.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
So it sounds like it's just you.
Speaker 10 (23:06):
I support in the right.
Speaker 6 (23:08):
I suspect it.
Speaker 15 (23:09):
Won't be the sweat.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
I was using my radar and the different tools I had,
But I don't recommend amateurs chasing storms.
Speaker 7 (23:17):
Yeah, I've seen tornadoes in person.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
Doctor Aaron Studwell, a meteorologist and the founder of race Weather.
Speaker 10 (23:25):
I live on the East coast of the US now,
so it's not real.
Speaker 15 (23:28):
If I'm here, I'm generally trapping storm chasing or hurricane chasing.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Let me get this straight. You're going to devote an
entire episode to the weather Well.
Speaker 5 (23:37):
I am a British AFTA ale, so you know.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Wow, we have a lot to cover. I'm excited and
it's nice to meet you, Tony.
Speaker 5 (23:48):
It's lovely to meet you, Michael, and I feel like
we're gonna have fun in these next these next couple
of episodes.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
It sounds great. Sign me up. When do we start?
Where do we start? How do we start? Why do
we start? A lot to cover? I'm looking forward to this.
Let's go.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
This has been Choosing Sides f one, a production of
Sports Illustrated studios, iHeart Podcasts and one oh one Studio Podcasts.
The show is hosted by Michael Costa and Tony Cowan Brown.
This episode was edited, scored, and sound designed by Senior
producer Jojai may. Than Scott Stone is the executive producer
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and head of Audio, and Daniel Wexman is Director of
Podcast Development and production Manager at one o one Studios.
At iHeart Podcasts, Sean Titone is our executive producer, and
a special thank you to Michelle Newman, David Glasser, and
David Hootkin from one oh one Studios. For more shows
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Speaker 5 (25:22):
So next week, on episode two of season two of
Choosing Sides, we're going to look at what it looks
like and what it means to be a business fan
a Formula One. Where does the money come from, where
does the money go, how is it being spent? Why
do companies even sponsor Formula one teams? Do they actually
turn a profit from me?
Speaker 1 (25:39):
I was wondering about that.
Speaker 5 (25:39):
What's the market value of Formula one and what's the
market value of Formula one teams right now, when we're
seeing all the hype around it, especially in America, we're
going to ask questions like why do companies even sponsor
Formula one teams? And what do they get out of it?
That's one of my questions, like why do they do it?
Speaker 1 (25:55):
How much does an F one car cost? Can I
put my name and or my face? I don't F
one car? And who owns F one? I guess we'll
leave that for next week. Tony, speak to.
Speaker 5 (26:04):
You, son, darling.
Speaker 10 (26:05):
We'll see each other soon
Hello, yo, Hi, It's Michael Costa from remember F one?
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Oh yeah, how's it going?
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Well? Personally it's fine, but this F one stuff I
don't I don't get it. It's now a good time
to talk. Can I call you back? Look, I don't
get what's going on. You got me into Formula one
last year I reluctantly became a fan. Okay, okay, and
Ferrari sucks.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
This is my team.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
This is embarrassing. I picked them.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Yeah, well, I mean you picked them exactly. We didn't
make you pick them. We kind of told you they suck.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
You kind of told me that they were a big team.
And George Russell, he's cute and all, but put up
a result. We got to stand behind your tee because
now you got me into it, and so I'm kind
of My Instagram is buzzing. I'm getting the headlines, but
I don't know what the ship is going on. What's
up with the tires. I've changed tires once in my life.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Yeah, it's not the same thing.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
The buttons on the steering wheel looks like a video
game controller. What is each button do? What's an undercut?
What's an overcut? Why are they driving in the rains,
these celebrities in the paddock. What is the paddock? What
all these graphs and screens that the engineers are staring at?
Who's driving the fucking cars? The engineers or the driver?
What else do the people who do the pit stops do?
Is that all they do? They work for two seconds.
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That's a great job. I wish I had that job.
I know just enough now that I know that I
don't know anything, and I blame you for that. YOHI
is that every going to say your name? Michael? I
need information, Dude. You can't just turn me into a
fan and then leave.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
I hear you. I'm in the middle here.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Sorry, go back to your family thing. I just am
confused and I'm angry, and I have you to blame
for it. For my heart Podcast one on one Studios
and Sports Illustrated Studios, This is choosing sides.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
Yes one, Wow, do.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
We win some word? Last year.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
We were nominated for two different awards.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
I think those things were all bullshit, but whatever. Still
when you win them, it's nice.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Yep, total bullshit.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Okay, let's do it. That's Tony.
Speaker 5 (02:16):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Last season, Lily guided me into this incredible sport and
helped me choose my affiliation, Lily. Yes, I need some
ownership over somebody, a team, a car, and that's missing.
Speaker 6 (02:30):
Well, have I got a podcast for you.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
You know, to give a little skin in the game.
So I knew what was going on, and I chose aside,
you chose.
Speaker 5 (02:40):
Sorry, my condolences.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Why the fuck am I so unlucky?
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Why the fuck am I so unlucky.
Speaker 5 (02:47):
Turning out for you?
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Looking back? If I could go back in time, maybe
I would revisit that decision.
Speaker 7 (02:53):
Oh my god, oh my fuck it.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
And then George was my driver. I even got a
George Russell tattoo. Okay, stop, I feel lost.
Speaker 5 (03:08):
I think I know what your problem is. Just regarding
Formula one, I say, we've just met each other. This
is therapy one on one.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Let's go.
Speaker 5 (03:18):
I think you haven't figured out yet exactly what type
of Formula one fan you are and could be.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
I don't understand. You mean there's different types of fans. Oh, yes,
so Tony, you can help me figure this out. You
can help me figure out what type of f one
fan I am.
Speaker 5 (03:37):
Oh, have I got a show for you?
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Are you going to be doing that accent? This whole
part yeah.
Speaker 5 (03:46):
Yeah, start, We'll stuck with this one, that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Before we keep going. Who are you?
Speaker 5 (03:52):
It's a good questions when I ask myself every day.
We have just wrapped the ass AJP, Tony, Caen Brown,
Hugh Tony. Hi, I'm f on Tony, but you can
also call me just Tony. I'm a tech and Formula
one commentator coming to you live from the Effie Paddock
and the Miami GP. Live from the inaugural Formula one
Vegas GP.
Speaker 8 (04:13):
I don't know if you can actually hear me because
the audience and the fans have been so incredible the
whole weekend. I'm an avid Formula one fan and have
been since nineteen ninety one.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
Wow, that I just age myself massive.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Well, I didn't mean it like that. I just meant
I just wasn't introduced.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
To it last year.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
I know.
Speaker 5 (04:33):
But has it been fun?
Speaker 1 (04:34):
It's been fun? But man, there's a lot of questions.
Speaker 5 (04:36):
Yes, yeah, there's a lot of answers to it. That's
the beauty of it.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
And do you do you feel like you have a
lot of those answers?
Speaker 5 (04:42):
Yes, I'm in, You're in, I'm all in and great, Okay,
let's get cracking.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Michael, do you I mean, I know you're a celebrity, but
this is radio, so they can't see you. Do you
want to introduce yourself as well?
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Well, Hi, my name's Michael Costa and I'm back for
season two of Choosing Sides is back in sound. I
explain this in the first season. Any activity where you
have to perform under pressure, I love watching humans step
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up or fall in a moment of pressure fascinates me.
And man is f one like the ultimate of that
because if you if you mess up, there's there's real consequences.
It's not like tennis, my sport, where if you mess
up you hit the ball in the net.
Speaker 9 (05:35):
I know there's been some debate on Twitter about the
Miss of the Year.
Speaker 10 (05:38):
I think we have a new nominee who cares. Goodness
me stug what's from Tomovitch?
Speaker 1 (05:44):
But in this sport, if you mess up, there's danger,
there's fire, there's speed, there's tech, there's money. As far
as the logistics, the history, the sponsors, the understanding of
the sport, I am a big dumb idiot.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
That's actually how we found you were looking for somebody
who is not an expert at anything. It just doesn't
know anything to tell.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
You what you're an expert at busting my balls.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Tony, on the other hand, is an actual expert. She
was one of our guests in season one, and there's
this one thing that she said back then that stuck
with me and that I think really speaks to what
we're trying to do here in season two.
Speaker 5 (06:23):
I am a firm believer that the more you know
about something, the more you get, the more you can
enjoy the actual sport.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Yep, exactly. And it's definitely like a lot of subjects
where the more you know, the more you know that
you don't know, Yeah, you know what I mean, I
do know what you mean.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Yeah. And also the more you know that you don't know,
the more you know that you know.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Zultan, Can you just shut them down?
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Don't touch that button's all time?
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Can you shut off? As Mike, I have more to.
Speaker 5 (06:49):
Get You're high has now left the chat.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Thank you? What's the plan? What are we doing here? So?
Speaker 5 (06:55):
I feel like in season one we gave you the
basics and we help to figure out who your team
and who your driver is. Season two of Choosing Sites
is going to be the one O two. If you will.
We're going to take you, and we're going to take
this a step, fir that we're going to dive deeper
into the intricacies of the sport in an effort to
help you figure out what kind of Formula one fan
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you are.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Michael, I didn't realize there were different F one fans.
Speaker 11 (07:22):
Talk to me, goose, Hey, guys, can you hear me?
Speaker 3 (07:24):
It is another day in Paradise.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
So over the past few months, Tony and I have
been very busy conducting dozens and dozens of interviews.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Those experts are helpful, they make me sound better, and
sometimes they interrupted me and I don't like.
Speaker 5 (07:41):
My name is Madelie Coleman.
Speaker 12 (07:43):
I'm a staff writer covering Formula one for the Athletic.
Speaker 9 (07:46):
My name's tartans LAWI Clay Kinsey aka break former F
one performance engineer.
Speaker 13 (07:52):
Professional race car driver for twenty years now, passionate about
life and pretty much everything that can fly flow. I'll
go fast.
Speaker 6 (08:01):
Lily Herman, writer editor by trade in the context of
F one, I did co host season one of Choosing
Sides F one, so I am very familiar with everyone.
I'm here to be a menace to YOHI.
Speaker 10 (08:13):
I'm sure, We're just gonna have fun and you'll pull
out the best bits.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
Hi.
Speaker 11 (08:15):
I'm Scott Mansell, founder of Driver sixty one.
Speaker 14 (08:19):
Is it fair to call you a tire heead treadhead?
Would would rhyme or we on? That could also be technically.
Speaker 15 (08:25):
I think fashion is how these personalities show who they are.
Speaker 5 (08:29):
I do have to mention the c boys.
Speaker 16 (08:31):
I think fan girls get a bad wrap. Our goal
is really just to bring people together, fan girls, fan boys.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
We talked to super fans, drivers, engineers, journalists, meteorologists, human encyclopedia.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Hello, folks, I'm Sean Kelly. All the facts and figures
you hear in a Formula one broadcast, whether they be
in the graphics, whether they be spoken by the likes
of David Croft or Martin Brundle or Alex Jakes or whomever.
I am chief responsible for all of that content.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
All people who are coming at the sport from very
different directions, but nonetheless they all are madly in love
with it. And one thing they did keep coming back
to was how layered and nuanced F one was as
a sport.
Speaker 17 (09:18):
I've always thought of Formula one is a bit like
an onion, and it has many layers. You know, you
can appreciate it just at first glance of what you see,
whatever that may be. You may find Charles the Clerk
on social media and think he looks cute or cool
or whatever and start following him, or you may be
very interested in the aerodynamic side of things. Can come
at it from a technical point of view. The point is,
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it's all of those things and a lot more.
Speaker 6 (09:42):
It's almost like going from a two D looking at
a two D shape like a circle into a three
D sphere right, or like a square into a cube.
Like you just see more dimensions, more layers, more pandemonium,
more tension, more stakes.
Speaker 5 (09:59):
They all is this.
Speaker 6 (10:00):
The more you know about the sport, and the.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
More you stick with our show, the more layers you'll add.
Dear f one Cake.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
I think that's lovely. We're gonna take a quick break
and be right back. Hey, we're back from the quick break, Tony.
Give me a little rundown on the different types of fans.
What are my options here?
Speaker 5 (10:21):
Okay, so you could have your game farest for example,
because this isn't the game of uno. This is very
much a game of chess.
Speaker 9 (10:29):
Yes, it is in some instances especially a race.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Former F One engineer Blake Hinsey.
Speaker 9 (10:35):
If you want to watch a Formula One race and
understand what's going on, you have two options. You can
watch the race lap by lap and observe what's happening
and say it wasn't that great. But one of the
best things about Formula One is the suspense, and a
lot of people get a lot of satisfaction of having
an understanding of how the game can unfold and the variables,
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and they want to know what's going to happen next
because they're probably watching it with their friend and it's like,
watch out for Carlos here, he's he needs to stop
soon for new tires, and without that kind of context,
you're kind of sitting there thinking what's going to happen next.
You don't have to be an expert, but having exposure
awareness of the variables at least gives so many more
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questions and so many where things are going through your
head while you're watching a Grand Prix.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
That's game theory.
Speaker 5 (11:21):
You could be someone that just loves the strategy of
the sports.
Speaker 9 (11:24):
You know, you can have a plan and if somebody
does a different move and you do not react to
that move, and you can end up at a disadvantage
and it forces your hand, and it can put you
in a difficult spot and you may not have all
the you know that, you may not have all the
information you need to make that decision. But do you
make a pit stop to cover that car or do
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you stay out and stick to plan A which one
pays off?
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Okay, what else statistician tough to say?
Speaker 15 (11:50):
I mean, I'm sure you've spoken to a ton of
people that are like, it's just a bunch of cars
going around in circles, isn't it.
Speaker 5 (11:56):
I think data, data and lots and lots of data.
Speaker 15 (11:59):
For me, the data driven part of fandom and the
stories which really unfold during a race or during a season,
it's it's just such a complex web of stories all
happening at once.
Speaker 10 (12:10):
And that's why I think I just get so fascinated
by it.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Tech entrepreneur trekns Lowie.
Speaker 10 (12:15):
If you're a person a fan that loves to live
in the rabbit hole, that loves to understand what's going
on beneath the surface, well, all the story, like the broadcast,
is such a narrow window on all of these events
that are going on, Like tire graining, pit stop times, overcuts, undercuts,
fuel consumption. Oh god, you understand that there's a there's
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a much more complex web of stories going on in
one race than you can possibly see on the broadcast.
And to me, that's the real fun of it.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
I don't think I'm going to be a stattician fan.
Speaker 14 (12:48):
Well to convince it, even it is zero level, tires
are complicated, and the more you know, the more you
can enjoy watching the racing.
Speaker 5 (12:58):
Tire ahead, which I think is probably yes, we're going
to devote a whole episode.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
We well, we have to. We have to because they
talk about it so much.
Speaker 14 (13:06):
Well, look, if you were to let me talk as
long as I wanted to about tires, especially with such
a knowledgeable person as Tony here, I could go on
for hours and days just talking about tires.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
This interview with Matt Trumpet, a huge, self professed fan
of everything and anything to do with them F one
tires crazy, did in fact run pretty long.
Speaker 14 (13:31):
And I could tell you that to suspension design, the canber,
the toe, all of it is aimed at making those
tires operate in a very narrow temperature margin. And within
that narrow temperature margin, there's an even tinier sweet spot.
So if you're ever watching qualifying and suddenly somebody does
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something extraordinary, what's really happened is they've prepared the tires
on their outlap where they drive very slowly to perfect
and then managed them perfectly throughout the lab so that
they use the very last of their grip exiting the
very last corner. The physics attires is amazing. Hysteresis and
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all of disco elastic performance and you know, glass transition temperatures.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
It's just really amazing.
Speaker 14 (14:19):
There's just a world of research that goes into these things.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Please, finally, I can't wait. That episode is where the
rubber meets the road.
Speaker 5 (14:31):
Unintended.
Speaker 10 (14:32):
Let's go.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
There's other types of fans.
Speaker 5 (14:35):
There are the logistics nerd. This is absolutely a traveling circus.
Speaker 18 (14:40):
There's nothing else like it. Really, there is nothing else
like Formula one logistically because of all the different components
that go into it. I mean we're talking about the
cars alone weigh two thousand pounds.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
This is Joe Bonpliano, entrepreneur and investor.
Speaker 18 (14:54):
It's really one of the only global sports that we have.
There are sports leagues that play in other places. There's
you know, European football teams that play friendlies in the US,
and even the NFL goes international, but Formula one is
global in its blood. It's everywhere. People need to remember that.
In some instances, Formula one is taking over, you know,
an entire downtown area or an entire track.
Speaker 5 (15:14):
Twenty three twenty four different countries, and.
Speaker 18 (15:17):
It makes it really challenging because it's not an asset
like business where you can just kind of pick yourself up,
fly over there and then do the event. It's you
need the cars, you need grand stands put up, you
need premium hospitality. You obviously need to bring hundreds of employees.
You have to have the motor homes set up and
the hospitality areas for the teams themselves.
Speaker 5 (15:34):
There's air freights, there's things that are put on the
back of trucks, there's things that are put on the
back of planes, on the back of boats. You have
to make sure that everything arrives on time.
Speaker 18 (15:44):
And that's really challenging logistically because there's so many different
moving parts.
Speaker 5 (15:49):
The logistics part is always one that I find fascinating,
especially if you talk with anyone on the logistics teams
in Formula one, they will say there's no plan B, right,
there's a Plan A, and plan has got to work.
Speaker 12 (16:01):
If you don't deliver fuel, the teams is unable to raise.
Speaker 5 (16:05):
This is Georgia Cherabasi DHL Motorsports track side Manager.
Speaker 12 (16:09):
In this case, there is no plan B because it
has to happen. They don't have any other choice other
than using their own fuel. So it's one case where yes,
we don't have any any Plan B just has to happen.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
You know, a general would say that. An amateur would
talk about tactics, right, but a professional we'll talk about logistics.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
By who are you reading a military book? Are you
just coming up with the stuff in your head right now?
I like that. Are there other types of fans? There
can't be.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
Yes, But let's goes on. Where are only halfway? Are
you here? Where there is money and where there is power,
there's always going to be drama and gossip. In Formula
one there's a lot of money and there's a lot
of power plays happening.
Speaker 16 (16:55):
Yes, lots of drama, lots of gossip.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
That was Zoe one half of the Hannah and Zoey
duo Behind Fan Behavior podcast.
Speaker 16 (17:02):
It's always funny to me whenever we get again, people
commenting about how like, why are we talking about this
sort of drama off track? Drama or something that they
don't feel like is what is on track. It's like
this sport is full of drama, and I think sport
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in general, yes, obviously the focus is what happens on
the track, and there's drama on the track, but you
also can't ignore what's happening off the track because that
also affects what happens on the track. And I think
formula one again, this plays into the Real Housewives component
of this of why people compare it to that show.
It's just it's so insular, it's so it's so tight,
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it's so close knit that I think that reads the
drama and the gossip. I think any friend group, you know,
friend group, family, there's always drama, there's always gossip, and
I think the closer you are, almost the more drama
and the more goss that there tends to be.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Okay, speed Jungle. I was going to say, we gotta
have something about speed. Speed. Yes, we haven't even mentioned that.
Speaker 5 (18:07):
We haven't mentioned that.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
That's the cause one of the corest things these things
go fast they do.
Speaker 11 (18:12):
Yeah, well, in my opinion, it's the most beautiful part
of racing.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Scott Mantle of Driver sixty one.
Speaker 11 (18:19):
The finesse. The skill that these drivers have in kind
of caressing the car into the breaking in through the
corner and extracting the very most speed that they can
is fascinating to watch. Now I'm aware it's very kind
of detailed viewing and as you get deeper and deeper
into the sport, for me, it's the most fascinating part.
Speaker 13 (18:40):
I'm going to tell you a funny story. My wife
always complained that I was training too much. I was
doing too much team, I was doing too much bicycle
and I didn't need all of that to be a
race car driver.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
And that's ex F one driver Roman Grojan aka the Phoenix.
Speaker 13 (18:54):
And then that accident in Bahrain were seventy sixty seven
g impact, got stuck in a cab fire, didn't lose consciousness,
which is amazing, and was strong enough to escape from
being locked between you know, a burrier, a halo headrest
and into far and just because I was strong enough
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and fit enough and got the energy to jump.
Speaker 7 (19:21):
Out of it, I made it.
Speaker 13 (19:22):
And since then she's like, well you can go as
much as you wanted the gym, so you know it
worked out pretty well.
Speaker 5 (19:29):
But yes, all of that homa to be able to
spend more time in the gym. Then there's the tech note.
Speaker 9 (19:34):
Everything about Formula one is engineering, so you cannot consume
any facet of Formula one without touching on engineering and
its impact on the sports, the outcomes. Everything is about numbers,
through and through. There is there is no way to
avoid engineering and Formula one. They are coupled, they are
the same.
Speaker 5 (19:54):
So this sport is tech powered.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Nerds are taken over Man.
Speaker 7 (20:00):
Noble Green nineteen fifty seven.
Speaker 5 (20:03):
Then we have a history buff coming.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Into an early lead is one Fangio number.
Speaker 7 (20:08):
One Fanjo was in a Maserati miles behind the two
Ferraris and drove out of his skin, frightening himself.
Speaker 15 (20:17):
With us at the brickyard the super Speedway Chaos Confusion range.
Speaker 5 (20:21):
For those listeners who have never heard of the very
sad two thousand and five USA Formula one start, can
you give us a quick story time A quick deepe
Sen sprinks away, but pass takes the lead.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
It's happened.
Speaker 5 (20:37):
Senna is trying to go through all the inside.
Speaker 14 (20:39):
And it's happened a major lip.
Speaker 5 (20:41):
This is amazing.
Speaker 17 (20:42):
He was otherworldly. I've never met anybody like it. And
Senna was a real kind of charismatic presence.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
James Allen a legendary efrone commentator and journalist.
Speaker 17 (20:53):
When he walked into a room, everybody stopped, all eyes
kind of you know, wow. He carried a presence like
I've never met anyone before or since. And God, could
he drive a racing car. He was so fast, you know,
and he was I think what marked him out was
his commitment. All Grand Prix drivers have a huge level
of commitment, but he was absolutely on it the whole time,
(21:14):
and nothing was too much, whether it was in terms
of effort that he put into it or trying to
find a competitive edge or going over the edge. Sometimes.
Speaker 7 (21:23):
I'll give you one stat Jim Clark.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
And that's a mad bishop. Another legendary F one journalist
and the founder of Racing Pride.
Speaker 7 (21:32):
He won twenty five Grand Prix out of seventy two starts.
Guess so many times he came second.
Speaker 9 (21:37):
It was in the fifth lap, but something went wrong.
Speaker 10 (21:41):
Clark's car had not reappeared in front of the timekeeper.
Speaker 5 (21:45):
This sport has such a deep history, and there are
so many reasons why we've ended up with the sport
in the format that we have today, from the types
of cars to the types of racetracks we have.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
In the home speeds three crowding miles into minutes on
the streaming Comac, they ride with life as the passenger
death on their tails.
Speaker 7 (22:07):
Capron Lived.
Speaker 5 (22:08):
We're not quite done, but we're very close to being done.
We are close. Quick break and we'll.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
Be right back, Tony. We're back.
Speaker 5 (22:18):
Yeah, welcome back for my break. So what have we
been doing. We've been running down the list of all
the different types of fans that you could potentially be. Yeah,
and I think we've reached the last one.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
Michael Oh, okay, cool.
Speaker 12 (22:32):
Bajour from the beautiful Colt Dassour.
Speaker 5 (22:35):
I'm Michelle Costa here with your Monaco weatherfall. Last, but
not least, we have the meteorologist. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (22:42):
I get like this sense of like excitement and through
and just a genuine.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
Pumping Elizabeth Olmacher, retired stormchaser and a meteorologist for Race West.
Speaker 5 (22:55):
Does anyone else report one of the things that every
team hopes that they can control, but they know they
absolutely can't control.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
So it sounds like it's just you.
Speaker 10 (23:06):
I support in the right.
Speaker 6 (23:08):
I suspect it.
Speaker 15 (23:09):
Won't be the sweat.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
I was using my radar and the different tools I had,
But I don't recommend amateurs chasing storms.
Speaker 7 (23:17):
Yeah, I've seen tornadoes in person.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
Doctor Aaron Studwell, a meteorologist and the founder of race Weather.
Speaker 10 (23:25):
I live on the East coast of the US now,
so it's not real.
Speaker 15 (23:28):
If I'm here, I'm generally trapping storm chasing or hurricane chasing.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Let me get this straight. You're going to devote an
entire episode to the weather Well.
Speaker 5 (23:37):
I am a British AFTA ale, so you know.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Wow, we have a lot to cover. I'm excited and
it's nice to meet you, Tony.
Speaker 5 (23:48):
It's lovely to meet you, Michael, and I feel like
we're gonna have fun in these next these next couple
of episodes.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
It sounds great. Sign me up. When do we start?
Where do we start? How do we start? Why do
we start? A lot to cover? I'm looking forward to this.
Let's go.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
This has been Choosing Sides f one, a production of
Sports Illustrated studios, iHeart Podcasts and one oh one Studio Podcasts.
The show is hosted by Michael Costa and Tony Cowan Brown.
This episode was edited, scored, and sound designed by Senior
producer Jojai may. Than Scott Stone is the executive producer
(24:39):
and head of Audio, and Daniel Wexman is Director of
Podcast Development and production Manager at one o one Studios.
At iHeart Podcasts, Sean Titone is our executive producer, and
a special thank you to Michelle Newman, David Glasser, and
David Hootkin from one oh one Studios. For more shows
(25:00):
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or wherever you get your podcasts, and whatever you do,
don't forget to rate us and tell your friends. It
really does mean a lot.
Speaker 5 (25:22):
So next week, on episode two of season two of
Choosing Sides, we're going to look at what it looks
like and what it means to be a business fan
a Formula One. Where does the money come from, where
does the money go, how is it being spent? Why
do companies even sponsor Formula one teams? Do they actually
turn a profit from me?
Speaker 1 (25:39):
I was wondering about that.
Speaker 5 (25:39):
What's the market value of Formula one and what's the
market value of Formula one teams right now, when we're
seeing all the hype around it, especially in America, we're
going to ask questions like why do companies even sponsor
Formula one teams? And what do they get out of it?
That's one of my questions, like why do they do it?
Speaker 1 (25:55):
How much does an F one car cost? Can I
put my name and or my face? I don't F
one car? And who owns F one? I guess we'll
leave that for next week. Tony, speak to.
Speaker 5 (26:04):
You, son, darling.
Speaker 10 (26:05):
We'll see each other soon
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