October 18, 2025 • 22 mins
Our guest this week is Knowa De Baraso… one of the youngest faces of the Democratic Party, one of the sharpest minds covering politics, and one of the rising stars in the podcasting space
In the second half of the show, we have a conversation with Knowa De Baraso about the future of liberal politics and the places that young people occupy in the political equation.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Keep on riding with us as we continue to broadcast
the balance and defend the discourse from the Hip Hop
Weekly Studios. Welcome back to Civic Cipher. I am your host,
Rams's Ja along with q Ward, inviting you to stick
around for this half of the show because we will
still be talking to Noah de Buraso. We're really excited
(00:21):
to get his voice on these airwaves and get a
look at what the future holds for progressive thinking, progressive leadership,
progressive outlook on the possibilities that the future holds. And
you know, we feel that that stands in stark contrast
to what we've seen from young Republican leadership. But as always,
(00:47):
right now, let's get into be a BA becoming a
better Ally. Bob on today's BABA comes from NNPA dot
org for those that don't know. NNPA is a trade
association of the more that two hundred African American owned
community newspapers from around the United States. Since its founding
seventy five years ago, in NPA has consistently been the
(01:10):
voice of the black community. The Black press believes that
America can best lead the world away from racial and
national and antagonisms when it accords every person, regardless of race, color,
or create, full human and legal rights. Hating no person,
The Black press strives to help every person in the
firm belief that all are heard as long as anyone
(01:32):
is held back. The National Newspaper Publishers Association is committed
to providing its members valuable information, opportunities and services. They
recognize that communication amongst their publishers is key to improving
the industry. Americans from all backgrounds seek news from the
black perspective from the NPA member newspapers around the country,
(01:54):
and America, now among the more diverse countries in the
world of America, is more relevant than ever. To find
a black owned newspaper near you, visit NNPA dot org
slash current DASH members once again, that is n NPA
dot org slash current DASH members, or of course you
(02:15):
can just check out NNPA dot org again that is
the National Newspaper Publishers Association. And if newspapers are your thing, obviously,
black owned journalism is more important now than ever before.
And now it is time to introduce the host of
Now You Know with Noah de Barasso, the debut podcast
(02:37):
from Noah de Barasso, the thirteen year old political commentator
on the rise, who made waves with its direct, sharp
and witty commentary throughout the twenty twenty four presidential election cycle.
The first episodes are available on the iHeartRadio app and
everywhere podcasts are heard. Noah de Barasso is one of
the youngest faces of the Democratic Party, one of the
(02:58):
sharpest minds covering politics, and one of the rising stars
in the podcasting space. And he is our guest today.
This is the QR Code and I am Ramses.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Job.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
All right, Noah, David Rosso, welcome to the show man.
How you doing today, Ramses?
Speaker 3 (03:17):
How are you?
Speaker 2 (03:18):
I'm flourishing, my friend.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Listen. I got to know Ramses three minutes before this.
I'm excited. I'm ready. Seems like a great guy. I'm
gonna keep it a buck. I am freestylin and I
am excited for this non pr episode with Ramses today.
I have no idea what we're going to talk about.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
We'll have no fear. We're just gonna get to know
you a little bit.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
You know, I've had the pleasure of coming across some
of your videos, some of your more viral videos, and
so I've been aware of you and my co host
he actually sent over some of your videos and I
remember thinking, man, this guy's on fire. This is the
future that we need to be excited about, right, And
(04:00):
so you know, uh, for for folks that didn't have
that experience, I think it's just a matter of making
sure that they're aware of the work that you're doing,
the brilliant mind that you have, and what I think
a lot of folks can look forward to. So with
that in mind, do us a favor, and you know,
I give you a brief introduction, but talk a little
bit about yourself, a little bit about your your background
(04:22):
and sort of what led you to this conversation we're
about to have today.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Yeah, I'm gonna say that was one of my favorite intros.
Like ever, I like the intro. I appreciate that ramses,
of course, and I'm gonna make sure I'm gonna make
sure I get you right. So you you kind of
explained it a little bit. I wouldn't say, I wouldn't say, my, my, my, here,
how do I frame this? I want to say, mainly
where people would would find And I was at the
(04:48):
sheriff Sheriff representing Atlanta's party birthday party, and he said,
if you're your If you don't know, no, you're not
on social media, and that was his thing. And I
think in recent times following the election, I've done television
appearances and then and then kept on social media and
now the podcast, and this month and next moment, I'm
fixing to get back active on social media. I think
(05:10):
the branch has gotten the tent has gotten bigger, the
Noah tent has gotten bigger. And so I'm excited to
be on the same network as you ramses with the
kyr code. And I think you I think you summed
it up pretty well.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Okay, all right, well good good.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
So one of the things that you know, we didn't
get into the weeds just yet, and I'm hopefully this
will give you a bit of an aperture into the
conversation that that I'm hoping our listeners will will resonate
with our listeners. But one of the things that you
said recently in a social media post of yours is
(05:43):
that you are not an activist. You said you aren't
an activist, So do us a favor explain your role
in the political space so that we get an idea
of sort of all that your path entails.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
I appreciate you asking that, and I appreciate you doing
the research to know that I appreciate that. So why
I say that is when I think of activism, I
think of a fist up. I think of fighting grassroots
lee on the streets and knocking the doors and doing
all the the move the things that that are necessary
to create a movement. I I wouldn't say I think
out of respect for activists, I wouldn't say I'm doing that.
(06:20):
I would say the reach is more so, like you mentioned,
from social media, from from entertainment, and from podcasting, and
from and from the television world, I think activism has
more of a grassroots background to it. I think there
are so many great activists and I would not discredit
them by just handing out the term as soon as
someone says go bo and so out of respect for
(06:40):
that position, I would say, I am just much of
a rapper as I am an activist. And I think
out of respect for activists that I respect so greatly
and that their work is so needed to the country,
I didn't I that's not my role. And yeah, and
my role, and like you said, I'm gonna just say
it straight up. I think the role of an activist
(07:04):
is even more needed in this moment than anything imaginable.
So if I can collaborate with activists and if I
can work with them to make the common goal possible,
We're gonna do it. But I think my role in
this moment is the entertainment role in spreading the political
messaging that that's needed through through entertainment.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Sure, sure, I appreciate that because I recognize that as
a a broadcaster. I'm a longtime broadcaster on the radio,
and activists they are not broadcasters often, That's right. Activists
(07:45):
are not DJs. Activists are not social media influencers.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
That's why I always say, like when I see politicians
doing the fist up like the squad, I'm like, you're
a politician, you're not an activist. Go do some policy work, but.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Can spread there you go, there you go.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
And so this supplemental work that that you find yourself doing,
I think is.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Is critical right now.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
It's critical because those with the messaging, those that have
galvanized the people, those who have communicated directly with the people,
as you mentioned via grassroots efforts, those people will need platforming.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Those people will need you.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Know, folks to you know, challenge their ideas to ensure
that those ideas are going to kind of retain their
buoyancy as they float out into the world, etc.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
And so I absolutely respect.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
That statement, and I knew that you were going to
kind of approach it from that direction. But I recognize
that that's unpredictable. What can no Hey man, I love it.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
I love it all right. Well, how about this something
you might know?
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Well, after going viral so many times, what is it
that made you want to start a podcast when you
were already kind of you know, hitting the mark with
your social media. What do you think was missing from
the podcasting space that your show brings to the collective conversation.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
I appreciate you asking that. So it's the same thing
that Charlomagne and the God and Andrew Lorai and everyone
I was up on that interview panel with when I
was being interviewed for the Native Land and the Breakfast
Club collab, when they offered me the show. It's the
same thing they saw. It was that, and we kind of,
like what we said earlier, we need a marge between
activism kind of and keep them, keep them in their respect,
(09:30):
and then make sure that entertainment voices are heard inside
of politics. So what I will say is that we
need people in on microphones, on radio and on television
interviews that can spread a message not only for one party,
but for a movement. And so I cannot wait until
I have the opportunity. When the person comes up, a
(09:51):
certain activist that's on the rise, I give them a
shout out and appreciate their work. But mainly the reason
I want to do a podcast right now anyway, is
that it's so necessary in entertainment world that we have
voices that are spreading political messaging. Not just sometimes I'm
making the silly and come out and endorse, and sometimes
we have Nelly come support Trump, and sometimes we have this,
(10:13):
but no, we need people that are affiliated, that are
affiliated with these entertainment companies to come on and say
some political messaging. That's something that Angela Rai has done
so well. Someone who is so seen in the entertainment
world can come and speak politics someone like that. So
that's where really where it comes from.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Okay, Okay, I love that, and do me a favorite.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
We've been talking about activists and then you mentioned names like,
you know, Angela Rai, who is in the entertainment space
for folks that have not yet been able to check
out your program, or you know, might be looking forward
to what is in the pipeline.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Give me an example of.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Maybe a recent guest or recent topic or something that
you've discussed on the shore, or maybe a couple if
you want to share them.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
Yeah, and it's actually related. So the kind of the
ground of the of the show. What I what I've
kind of focused on a little bit is back back
in December twenty twenty four, I endorsed a candidate for
Democratic Party chair and a lot of people were like,
why is he on this national news thing talking about
(11:19):
who he's endorsing for this? Why is that matter? Why
is that relevant? So what I what I really wanted
to talk about with Macy Gray and with Sarah McBride,
it was so deep I got I got lost what
I wanted, what I talked on with someone all the
way from Macy Gray to a podcast on iHeart to
Sarah Congresswoman Sarah McBride is It was all ground to
(11:41):
influence how someone like Sarah McBride has such a large
social media presence and she's a member of Congress for
one of the first members of Congress to be that
big on social media. Macey Gray, who is a Hollywood celebrity,
speaking about it with Paul, and it's all it's a
politician her and then podcasters and all like that. And
I think the main grounds for it is influence. Like
(12:01):
I spoke about, I encourage my people to go out
and support that candidate for DNC chair, donate his campaign,
help them fundraise, And it's all grounds to that. So
that's really been the basis of it.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Gotcha, gotcha?
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Now, let me let me while we're here, let me
flip this question on its head. Let's project out into
the future. Give me an idea of a guest, or
maybe a couple of guests, or maybe topics whatever you
feel comfortable with, something that you would like to see
on your show, in terms of a guest or a
topic you want to cover.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
I want to get them. I set this on a
few interviews. Let's set this on rolling out interview. I
want to get their regular answer. I don't want a
pr answer. I don't want something that they've been told.
I don't want notes. In fact, this isn't something that
produce I tell the producers do. But when they're here
when they're in the studio or on there on the
on the big screen. I say, hey, put those notes away,
let's just have a conversation. And I think if we
(12:55):
can get a non pr answer in a in a
real conversation about what we're talking about, we're talking about
why this member of Congress. I'm gonna have them on
why he proposed this policy or why what does this
song mean to Macy Gray and stuff like that, And
a lot of upcoming guests are going to be very
familiar to the mainstream, so that's really I want to
get their real answer.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Okay, all right, so give me one name of one
guest that you would like to run through this particular
style of interview.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
I have to say, in terms of crossing political endorsements
all the way to crossing entertainment and merging those entertainment
and political endorsements and putting those together, I can't help
but think of the most recent in the twenty twenty
four election. I'm thinking of Megan the Stein and I'm
(13:46):
thinking of Gloilla. Those are two people and Cardi Bia
those are three people that use their platforms in twenty
twenty four loudly to speak and everyone was like a
rapper speaking about this. And I was at Kamala Harris's
when I met her. When I got back with her yesterday,
I saw her for the first time in a few months.
Yesterday she spoke about that on stage shortly after speaking
(14:07):
with me. She talked about she talked about she talks
about that when she got on the big stage on
the on the book tour. So it's really that's a
really that's a big one because when you think of
who endorsed in twenty twenty four election that traditionally doesn't
traditionally just raps traditionally does Djying traditionally speaks on on
certain hip hop issues. When they when you get their
(14:28):
voices and politics, it's powerful. It really is.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Sure this I know. Okay, that's a good answer. I
like that one.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Now, as one of the younger voices and one of
the more visible faces, I think you're in a position
to know the impact that you've had on politics as
they relate to younger people, people who aren't even able
to cast a vote, right, So you're probably in a
(14:57):
better position than anyone else to answer this question. From
your perspective, what is the role that you think young
people will play in politics ahead of the midterms and
ahead of the next presidential election.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
I'm gonna say it in one word of them elaborate
everything young people determine. And I'm not speaking about young
people of the platform. I'm not speaking about young people
that are visible like you mentioned. I'm talking about young
people in general. One young person can show their grandma
a video of Okay, let's let's use a specific state.
(15:36):
Right let's say, right now, you're in your you spoke
about you're being You're in Arizona. Your governor's Katie Hobbs.
If they show their grandma video of Katie Hobbs vetoing
great bills or signing into a log of great bills.
Because they have more access to social media and TikTok
and media than their grandma. Their grandma probably has network television, newspapers,
(15:56):
et cetera. They show their grandma, Hey, grandma, local Katie
Hobbs did about a new bill. Just veto look what
pill she passed. They have the access of their grandmothers,
their family and everything. So young people that go to
school every day may have a job, have that sort
of impact young people the platform whole nother discussion. But
(16:17):
I think young people hold the power because they hold
the phones, they hold the social media. They can post,
They could pull up a video me explaining why I
support this person not this person. It's powerful, it really is.
They determine everything in the midterms. I've told every candidate
i'm supporting, say, hey, we need to get on the road.
I need to get on the road. I need to
speak to these people. I need to encourage them. Just
like Kamala Harris sent me out to talk to young
(16:38):
people on twenty twenty four, I think everyone, no matter what,
to focus on young people. Whether you're running in a
district that's forty eight percent elderly and very few young
people live there, or a very wealthy neighborhood that very
few young people can live in, it's very important you
focus on young people, very very.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
There like that.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Now, let me let let's make this a little bit
more relevant to the culture. And I'm curious what your
response would be. And if you don't have anything substantial,
that's totally fine, but just curious from where you sit, Uh,
what is how to ask this? What is the main
(17:20):
thing that you think. I've asked this question to a
lot of people. But what is the main thing you
think that black people, black communities should remain mindful of.
In Trump's America.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
Boom, they had to get you. And I'm not talking
about policy wise, I'm talking about misinformation wise. Phone. This
has Instagram on it. I have Instagram an Instagram user.
Every time I scroll, maybe every I'll want to say,
every thirteen videos is a lie. And there might be
more or less. Someone might got said. Somebody might say
they have a million dollars. That's a lot. But I'm
(17:54):
speaking about a political life. I'm speaking about a lot
of a video that says FEMA only provided seven hundred
fifty dollars after Hurricane Helen, and in reality that wasn't true.
In reality, they got plenty of assistance. That was just
what you need. That's what you could get before you
applied for more. And I say this, misinformation is the
number one thing that you need to be protected by.
(18:15):
You need to protect yourself from it. I need you
to look at people who make a video of Putin
in the eye, right, Vladimir Putin. That's a great example
Russian misinformation. Oh my goodness. There's so many people around
me that say, hey, you saw Putin held up the
Bible with the black Jesus on it, and I looked
it up. Within one Google search, I saw that was fake,
a doctored video. Why would Putin In his cronies need
(18:38):
to make a video of him holding a black Jesus Bible? Maybe?
Is it because they want Black Americans to like Russia?
While success susceptible. I say that word all the time,
and I mess it up to misinformation, right. It's embarrassing
and it is truly truly a shame when I have
people around me saying, hey, Putin love black people, and
(19:01):
I look and I look up. That's vague. I'm sorry,
and they still don't believe it. It's not your fault,
it really isn't. So you need to be mindful of
misinformation no matter what.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
I love that. I love that.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
I appreciate that too, because again, I've asked that question
to a number of great thinkers, a number of great leaders,
from you know, Charlemagne to joy Read to we had
Stacy Abrams on the other day and me too. So
(19:33):
I've never been able to ask someone who has as
fresh a you of politics as you, And so I
appreciate the thoughtfulness there because that is something that that
might be a blind spot to a Stacy Abrams, right,
or maybe not a blind spot, but maybe something that's
not as much of a priority. But recognizing how much
(19:53):
of life centers around the way information flows nowadays.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Is.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
That's something that is definitely worth bearing in mind. I
think I think I have an iPhone that was that
is older than you, right, and so you grew up
in an era where smartphones are normal.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
And I will what your iPhone?
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Well, I have an I have the current iPhone now,
but I have still my first iPhone and that was
from two thousand and maybe two thousand and eight, something
like that. So at any event, this has been a
joy talking to you. And I know I only get
you for a few minutes, but before you go, the
world is sort of your oyster right now. I know
(20:37):
that you know you're you're launching your podcast and and
or you've launched your podcast and are actively you know,
cultivating relationships with guests and so forth, and obviously exploring
this new platform.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
But you seem to.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Be a very enthusiastic, very energetic, very ambitious young man,
and I salute that and I respect that. What else
is on the horizon for you, for new fans that
might want to tap into you to kind of create
some connective tissue.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
What what do they have to look forward to.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
I really appreciate I appreciate you asking that. So I'll
say I've been an active on social media due to
the fact I'm explained. When the podcast was coming out,
I was like, I want to wipe it. I want
I want to I want to put my clips up,
I want to do all that. I will be back
on social media. I'm going to target that misinformation that
we spoke about. I'm gonna do the fun videos. I'm
gonna cultivate the cultivate the audience for for the midterms.
(21:32):
And this is content that that's really gonna engage. So
I think people are just waiting. My social media is
my name at Noah de Braso everywhere, and when I
when I get back on social media, I think I
think a lot of people are excited for that come back.
I'm going to be back on social media as soon
as this month, next month. And it's not like I'm
an active. I do stories, I do I do tweets
(21:52):
a lot, but I was not I was very active
on social media last year and I need to get
back on that on that page sometime this year. But
it is going to be.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Great, all right. I love that.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
So before we let you go one more time, drop
your social media, drop the podcast so people know how
to get a hold of you, any other website information
like that, so our listeners can tap.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
In with you.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
Absolutely appreciate that. This Noive Barrosso and you can find
me on social media at noada Brosso. That's spelled differently
k n O W A b E b A R
A s O. That's all social media, so you can
find the podcast wherever you get your podcast. Now you
know noded Barrosso.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
Well, thank you so much for your time, the work
that you do, your brilliance, your energy.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Keep going.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
If you ever need some big brothers to help out
in any meaningful way, just count on me and count
on Cube.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
We're going to be here for you. But we salute you,
We're really proud.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Of you, and we thank you again for your time
once again. Today's guest is one of the youngest faces
of the Democratic Party, one of the sharpest minds covering politics,
and one of the rising stars in the podcasting space.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Noah Dave Barasso
Keep on riding with us as we continue to broadcast
the balance and defend the discourse from the Hip Hop
Weekly Studios. Welcome back to Civic Cipher. I am your host,
Rams's Ja along with q Ward, inviting you to stick
around for this half of the show because we will
still be talking to Noah de Buraso. We're really excited
(00:21):
to get his voice on these airwaves and get a
look at what the future holds for progressive thinking, progressive leadership,
progressive outlook on the possibilities that the future holds. And
you know, we feel that that stands in stark contrast
to what we've seen from young Republican leadership. But as always,
(00:47):
right now, let's get into be a BA becoming a
better Ally. Bob on today's BABA comes from NNPA dot
org for those that don't know. NNPA is a trade
association of the more that two hundred African American owned
community newspapers from around the United States. Since its founding
seventy five years ago, in NPA has consistently been the
(01:10):
voice of the black community. The Black press believes that
America can best lead the world away from racial and
national and antagonisms when it accords every person, regardless of race, color,
or create, full human and legal rights. Hating no person,
The Black press strives to help every person in the
firm belief that all are heard as long as anyone
(01:32):
is held back. The National Newspaper Publishers Association is committed
to providing its members valuable information, opportunities and services. They
recognize that communication amongst their publishers is key to improving
the industry. Americans from all backgrounds seek news from the
black perspective from the NPA member newspapers around the country,
(01:54):
and America, now among the more diverse countries in the
world of America, is more relevant than ever. To find
a black owned newspaper near you, visit NNPA dot org
slash current DASH members once again, that is n NPA
dot org slash current DASH members, or of course you
(02:15):
can just check out NNPA dot org again that is
the National Newspaper Publishers Association. And if newspapers are your thing, obviously,
black owned journalism is more important now than ever before.
And now it is time to introduce the host of
Now You Know with Noah de Barasso, the debut podcast
(02:37):
from Noah de Barasso, the thirteen year old political commentator
on the rise, who made waves with its direct, sharp
and witty commentary throughout the twenty twenty four presidential election cycle.
The first episodes are available on the iHeartRadio app and
everywhere podcasts are heard. Noah de Barasso is one of
the youngest faces of the Democratic Party, one of the
(02:58):
sharpest minds covering politics, and one of the rising stars
in the podcasting space. And he is our guest today.
This is the QR Code and I am Ramses.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Job.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
All right, Noah, David Rosso, welcome to the show man.
How you doing today, Ramses?
Speaker 3 (03:17):
How are you?
Speaker 2 (03:18):
I'm flourishing, my friend.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Listen. I got to know Ramses three minutes before this.
I'm excited. I'm ready. Seems like a great guy. I'm
gonna keep it a buck. I am freestylin and I
am excited for this non pr episode with Ramses today.
I have no idea what we're going to talk about.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
We'll have no fear. We're just gonna get to know
you a little bit.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
You know, I've had the pleasure of coming across some
of your videos, some of your more viral videos, and
so I've been aware of you and my co host
he actually sent over some of your videos and I
remember thinking, man, this guy's on fire. This is the
future that we need to be excited about, right, And
(04:00):
so you know, uh, for for folks that didn't have
that experience, I think it's just a matter of making
sure that they're aware of the work that you're doing,
the brilliant mind that you have, and what I think
a lot of folks can look forward to. So with
that in mind, do us a favor, and you know,
I give you a brief introduction, but talk a little
bit about yourself, a little bit about your your background
(04:22):
and sort of what led you to this conversation we're
about to have today.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Yeah, I'm gonna say that was one of my favorite intros.
Like ever, I like the intro. I appreciate that ramses,
of course, and I'm gonna make sure I'm gonna make
sure I get you right. So you you kind of
explained it a little bit. I wouldn't say, I wouldn't say, my, my, my, here,
how do I frame this? I want to say, mainly
where people would would find And I was at the
(04:48):
sheriff Sheriff representing Atlanta's party birthday party, and he said,
if you're your If you don't know, no, you're not
on social media, and that was his thing. And I
think in recent times following the election, I've done television
appearances and then and then kept on social media and
now the podcast, and this month and next moment, I'm
fixing to get back active on social media. I think
(05:10):
the branch has gotten the tent has gotten bigger, the
Noah tent has gotten bigger. And so I'm excited to
be on the same network as you ramses with the
kyr code. And I think you I think you summed
it up pretty well.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Okay, all right, well good good.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
So one of the things that you know, we didn't
get into the weeds just yet, and I'm hopefully this
will give you a bit of an aperture into the
conversation that that I'm hoping our listeners will will resonate
with our listeners. But one of the things that you
said recently in a social media post of yours is
(05:43):
that you are not an activist. You said you aren't
an activist, So do us a favor explain your role
in the political space so that we get an idea
of sort of all that your path entails.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
I appreciate you asking that, and I appreciate you doing
the research to know that I appreciate that. So why
I say that is when I think of activism, I
think of a fist up. I think of fighting grassroots
lee on the streets and knocking the doors and doing
all the the move the things that that are necessary
to create a movement. I I wouldn't say I think
out of respect for activists, I wouldn't say I'm doing that.
(06:20):
I would say the reach is more so, like you mentioned,
from social media, from from entertainment, and from podcasting, and
from and from the television world, I think activism has
more of a grassroots background to it. I think there
are so many great activists and I would not discredit
them by just handing out the term as soon as
someone says go bo and so out of respect for
(06:40):
that position, I would say, I am just much of
a rapper as I am an activist. And I think
out of respect for activists that I respect so greatly
and that their work is so needed to the country,
I didn't I that's not my role. And yeah, and
my role, and like you said, I'm gonna just say
it straight up. I think the role of an activist
(07:04):
is even more needed in this moment than anything imaginable.
So if I can collaborate with activists and if I
can work with them to make the common goal possible,
We're gonna do it. But I think my role in
this moment is the entertainment role in spreading the political
messaging that that's needed through through entertainment.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Sure, sure, I appreciate that because I recognize that as
a a broadcaster. I'm a longtime broadcaster on the radio,
and activists they are not broadcasters often, That's right. Activists
(07:45):
are not DJs. Activists are not social media influencers.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
That's why I always say, like when I see politicians
doing the fist up like the squad, I'm like, you're
a politician, you're not an activist. Go do some policy work, but.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Can spread there you go, there you go.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
And so this supplemental work that that you find yourself doing,
I think is.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Is critical right now.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
It's critical because those with the messaging, those that have
galvanized the people, those who have communicated directly with the people,
as you mentioned via grassroots efforts, those people will need platforming.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Those people will need you.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Know, folks to you know, challenge their ideas to ensure
that those ideas are going to kind of retain their
buoyancy as they float out into the world, etc.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
And so I absolutely respect.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
That statement, and I knew that you were going to
kind of approach it from that direction. But I recognize
that that's unpredictable. What can no Hey man, I love it.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
I love it all right. Well, how about this something
you might know?
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Well, after going viral so many times, what is it
that made you want to start a podcast when you
were already kind of you know, hitting the mark with
your social media. What do you think was missing from
the podcasting space that your show brings to the collective conversation.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
I appreciate you asking that. So it's the same thing
that Charlomagne and the God and Andrew Lorai and everyone
I was up on that interview panel with when I
was being interviewed for the Native Land and the Breakfast
Club collab, when they offered me the show. It's the
same thing they saw. It was that, and we kind of,
like what we said earlier, we need a marge between
activism kind of and keep them, keep them in their respect,
(09:30):
and then make sure that entertainment voices are heard inside
of politics. So what I will say is that we
need people in on microphones, on radio and on television
interviews that can spread a message not only for one party,
but for a movement. And so I cannot wait until
I have the opportunity. When the person comes up, a
(09:51):
certain activist that's on the rise, I give them a
shout out and appreciate their work. But mainly the reason
I want to do a podcast right now anyway, is
that it's so necessary in entertainment world that we have
voices that are spreading political messaging. Not just sometimes I'm
making the silly and come out and endorse, and sometimes
we have Nelly come support Trump, and sometimes we have this,
(10:13):
but no, we need people that are affiliated, that are
affiliated with these entertainment companies to come on and say
some political messaging. That's something that Angela Rai has done
so well. Someone who is so seen in the entertainment
world can come and speak politics someone like that. So
that's where really where it comes from.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Okay, Okay, I love that, and do me a favorite.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
We've been talking about activists and then you mentioned names like,
you know, Angela Rai, who is in the entertainment space
for folks that have not yet been able to check
out your program, or you know, might be looking forward
to what is in the pipeline.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Give me an example of.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Maybe a recent guest or recent topic or something that
you've discussed on the shore, or maybe a couple if
you want to share them.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
Yeah, and it's actually related. So the kind of the
ground of the of the show. What I what I've
kind of focused on a little bit is back back
in December twenty twenty four, I endorsed a candidate for
Democratic Party chair and a lot of people were like,
why is he on this national news thing talking about
(11:19):
who he's endorsing for this? Why is that matter? Why
is that relevant? So what I what I really wanted
to talk about with Macy Gray and with Sarah McBride,
it was so deep I got I got lost what
I wanted, what I talked on with someone all the
way from Macy Gray to a podcast on iHeart to
Sarah Congresswoman Sarah McBride is It was all ground to
(11:41):
influence how someone like Sarah McBride has such a large
social media presence and she's a member of Congress for
one of the first members of Congress to be that
big on social media. Macey Gray, who is a Hollywood celebrity,
speaking about it with Paul, and it's all it's a
politician her and then podcasters and all like that. And
I think the main grounds for it is influence. Like
(12:01):
I spoke about, I encourage my people to go out
and support that candidate for DNC chair, donate his campaign,
help them fundraise, And it's all grounds to that. So
that's really been the basis of it.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Gotcha, gotcha?
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Now, let me let me while we're here, let me
flip this question on its head. Let's project out into
the future. Give me an idea of a guest, or
maybe a couple of guests, or maybe topics whatever you
feel comfortable with, something that you would like to see
on your show, in terms of a guest or a
topic you want to cover.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
I want to get them. I set this on a
few interviews. Let's set this on rolling out interview. I
want to get their regular answer. I don't want a
pr answer. I don't want something that they've been told.
I don't want notes. In fact, this isn't something that
produce I tell the producers do. But when they're here
when they're in the studio or on there on the
on the big screen. I say, hey, put those notes away,
let's just have a conversation. And I think if we
(12:55):
can get a non pr answer in a in a
real conversation about what we're talking about, we're talking about
why this member of Congress. I'm gonna have them on
why he proposed this policy or why what does this
song mean to Macy Gray and stuff like that, And
a lot of upcoming guests are going to be very
familiar to the mainstream, so that's really I want to
get their real answer.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Okay, all right, so give me one name of one
guest that you would like to run through this particular
style of interview.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
I have to say, in terms of crossing political endorsements
all the way to crossing entertainment and merging those entertainment
and political endorsements and putting those together, I can't help
but think of the most recent in the twenty twenty
four election. I'm thinking of Megan the Stein and I'm
(13:46):
thinking of Gloilla. Those are two people and Cardi Bia
those are three people that use their platforms in twenty
twenty four loudly to speak and everyone was like a
rapper speaking about this. And I was at Kamala Harris's
when I met her. When I got back with her yesterday,
I saw her for the first time in a few months.
Yesterday she spoke about that on stage shortly after speaking
(14:07):
with me. She talked about she talked about she talks
about that when she got on the big stage on
the on the book tour. So it's really that's a
really that's a big one because when you think of
who endorsed in twenty twenty four election that traditionally doesn't
traditionally just raps traditionally does Djying traditionally speaks on on
certain hip hop issues. When they when you get their
(14:28):
voices and politics, it's powerful. It really is.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Sure this I know. Okay, that's a good answer. I
like that one.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Now, as one of the younger voices and one of
the more visible faces, I think you're in a position
to know the impact that you've had on politics as
they relate to younger people, people who aren't even able
to cast a vote, right, So you're probably in a
(14:57):
better position than anyone else to answer this question. From
your perspective, what is the role that you think young
people will play in politics ahead of the midterms and
ahead of the next presidential election.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
I'm gonna say it in one word of them elaborate
everything young people determine. And I'm not speaking about young
people of the platform. I'm not speaking about young people
that are visible like you mentioned. I'm talking about young
people in general. One young person can show their grandma
a video of Okay, let's let's use a specific state.
(15:36):
Right let's say, right now, you're in your you spoke
about you're being You're in Arizona. Your governor's Katie Hobbs.
If they show their grandma video of Katie Hobbs vetoing
great bills or signing into a log of great bills.
Because they have more access to social media and TikTok
and media than their grandma. Their grandma probably has network television, newspapers,
(15:56):
et cetera. They show their grandma, Hey, grandma, local Katie
Hobbs did about a new bill. Just veto look what
pill she passed. They have the access of their grandmothers,
their family and everything. So young people that go to
school every day may have a job, have that sort
of impact young people the platform whole nother discussion. But
(16:17):
I think young people hold the power because they hold
the phones, they hold the social media. They can post,
They could pull up a video me explaining why I
support this person not this person. It's powerful, it really is.
They determine everything in the midterms. I've told every candidate
i'm supporting, say, hey, we need to get on the road.
I need to get on the road. I need to
speak to these people. I need to encourage them. Just
like Kamala Harris sent me out to talk to young
(16:38):
people on twenty twenty four, I think everyone, no matter what,
to focus on young people. Whether you're running in a
district that's forty eight percent elderly and very few young
people live there, or a very wealthy neighborhood that very
few young people can live in, it's very important you
focus on young people, very very.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
There like that.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Now, let me let let's make this a little bit
more relevant to the culture. And I'm curious what your
response would be. And if you don't have anything substantial,
that's totally fine, but just curious from where you sit, Uh,
what is how to ask this? What is the main
(17:20):
thing that you think. I've asked this question to a
lot of people. But what is the main thing you
think that black people, black communities should remain mindful of.
In Trump's America.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
Boom, they had to get you. And I'm not talking
about policy wise, I'm talking about misinformation wise. Phone. This
has Instagram on it. I have Instagram an Instagram user.
Every time I scroll, maybe every I'll want to say,
every thirteen videos is a lie. And there might be
more or less. Someone might got said. Somebody might say
they have a million dollars. That's a lot. But I'm
(17:54):
speaking about a political life. I'm speaking about a lot
of a video that says FEMA only provided seven hundred
fifty dollars after Hurricane Helen, and in reality that wasn't true.
In reality, they got plenty of assistance. That was just
what you need. That's what you could get before you
applied for more. And I say this, misinformation is the
number one thing that you need to be protected by.
(18:15):
You need to protect yourself from it. I need you
to look at people who make a video of Putin
in the eye, right, Vladimir Putin. That's a great example
Russian misinformation. Oh my goodness. There's so many people around
me that say, hey, you saw Putin held up the
Bible with the black Jesus on it, and I looked
it up. Within one Google search, I saw that was fake,
a doctored video. Why would Putin In his cronies need
(18:38):
to make a video of him holding a black Jesus Bible? Maybe?
Is it because they want Black Americans to like Russia?
While success susceptible. I say that word all the time,
and I mess it up to misinformation, right. It's embarrassing
and it is truly truly a shame when I have
people around me saying, hey, Putin love black people, and
(19:01):
I look and I look up. That's vague. I'm sorry,
and they still don't believe it. It's not your fault,
it really isn't. So you need to be mindful of
misinformation no matter what.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
I love that. I love that.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
I appreciate that too, because again, I've asked that question
to a number of great thinkers, a number of great leaders,
from you know, Charlemagne to joy Read to we had
Stacy Abrams on the other day and me too. So
(19:33):
I've never been able to ask someone who has as
fresh a you of politics as you, And so I
appreciate the thoughtfulness there because that is something that that
might be a blind spot to a Stacy Abrams, right,
or maybe not a blind spot, but maybe something that's
not as much of a priority. But recognizing how much
(19:53):
of life centers around the way information flows nowadays.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Is.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
That's something that is definitely worth bearing in mind. I
think I think I have an iPhone that was that
is older than you, right, and so you grew up
in an era where smartphones are normal.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
And I will what your iPhone?
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Well, I have an I have the current iPhone now,
but I have still my first iPhone and that was
from two thousand and maybe two thousand and eight, something
like that. So at any event, this has been a
joy talking to you. And I know I only get
you for a few minutes, but before you go, the
world is sort of your oyster right now. I know
(20:37):
that you know you're you're launching your podcast and and
or you've launched your podcast and are actively you know,
cultivating relationships with guests and so forth, and obviously exploring
this new platform.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
But you seem to.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Be a very enthusiastic, very energetic, very ambitious young man,
and I salute that and I respect that. What else
is on the horizon for you, for new fans that
might want to tap into you to kind of create
some connective tissue.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
What what do they have to look forward to.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
I really appreciate I appreciate you asking that. So I'll
say I've been an active on social media due to
the fact I'm explained. When the podcast was coming out,
I was like, I want to wipe it. I want
I want to I want to put my clips up,
I want to do all that. I will be back
on social media. I'm going to target that misinformation that
we spoke about. I'm gonna do the fun videos. I'm
gonna cultivate the cultivate the audience for for the midterms.
(21:32):
And this is content that that's really gonna engage. So
I think people are just waiting. My social media is
my name at Noah de Braso everywhere, and when I
when I get back on social media, I think I
think a lot of people are excited for that come back.
I'm going to be back on social media as soon
as this month, next month. And it's not like I'm
an active. I do stories, I do I do tweets
(21:52):
a lot, but I was not I was very active
on social media last year and I need to get
back on that on that page sometime this year. But
it is going to be.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Great, all right. I love that.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
So before we let you go one more time, drop
your social media, drop the podcast so people know how
to get a hold of you, any other website information
like that, so our listeners can tap.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
In with you.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
Absolutely appreciate that. This Noive Barrosso and you can find
me on social media at noada Brosso. That's spelled differently
k n O W A b E b A R
A s O. That's all social media, so you can
find the podcast wherever you get your podcast. Now you
know noded Barrosso.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
Well, thank you so much for your time, the work
that you do, your brilliance, your energy.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Keep going.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
If you ever need some big brothers to help out
in any meaningful way, just count on me and count
on Cube.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
We're going to be here for you. But we salute you,
We're really proud.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Of you, and we thank you again for your time
once again. Today's guest is one of the youngest faces
of the Democratic Party, one of the sharpest minds covering politics,
and one of the rising stars in the podcasting space.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Noah Dave Barasso
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