December 30, 2020 • 37 mins
CJ Pearson is back with another episode during a crucial moment in American history. The battle for another coronavirus relief bill gets heated in the Senate and CJ has a few thoughts on what the American people deserve. CJ also gives a last minute to pitch to Georgia voters amid the Special Election. Congressman Jody Hice joins the podcast to discuss how he stands for President Trump before the final electoral vote on January 6th as well as the Stop The Steal rally occurring simultaneously in DC.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Up next c J. Pearson Uncensored, part of the English
TwixT network. Right now, I gotta say, I'm feeling a
little bit politically homeless, and I'm still conservative, as conservative
as ever. Maybe that's why I'm feeling political homeless, because
it seems as if the Republican Party has forgotten as routes,
it's forgotten how to fight. Hi guys, I'm c J. Pierson.
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Welcome to episode nine of c J person Uncensored. So
last week, I know I kind of told you guys
that like that was gonna be the last episode of
c J Persnsensor for the year. Well news, Um, I lied.
It's not because I don't know why I fooled myself
into thinking that. I guess there will we would just
run out of things to talk about in because has
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proven itself to be anything about a year of normalcy,
Like things will probably happen up until the end. I
like a post home snapchat Like yesterday, I was like
just kind of realized that surviving itself was a collegement
of its time. So like if you did that, like
craise yourself like you deserve it, you are an o G.
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You won the year. Um, and then one of my
friends split up there like CJ, like the years on over,
like it's still going, like let's not speak too soon.
I was like, I was like, Ship, Yeah, you're kind
of right, You're kind of right. And the last week
we've seen so much stuff happened, and a lot of
stuff that's honestly actually mad, be really mad. I am
mad because it really is shown that the political leadership
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in this country is fundamentally broken. That we have elected
people who genuinely don't give a dame about us two
positions of power that they don't deserve. I saw what
happened with this COVID bill, which was so called supposed
to provide COVID relief, and I'm just like confused because
I'm like, in what way is this actually like relief?
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Here in America. We've seen in Blue States people have
their businesses closed down. We've seen people have their hours
reduced if their jobs aren't completely eliminated altogether. We seeing
people get arrested for mask mandates and all of these things.
Our country has become an absolute ship show. The survival
rate of COVID is ninety nine point nine eight percent,
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and if you want to really see people lose their
mind telling the round up when you say that number,
by the way, right, um, But now, like seriously, like
no one's diminishing the seriesness of COVID. Code is real.
COVID is unfortunate, And to everyone who's lost a level
on because of COVID, my heart goes out to you.
But guys, here's another reality. People die every single year
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because the flu. They die every single year because of suicide,
They die every single year because so many things. We
don't shut down the world because of it, because if
we did that, every single time a lot of people
started dieing because of a certain thing or a certain ailment,
our society even ceased to function. It would never go on.
And so I've kind of reached this point where it's like, guys,
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COVID is real. COVID is terrible, but we need to
push forward as a society, as a country, as a
commu unity, like we need to push forward. But the
reality of it is that because of the hysteria we
allowed to be whipped up in this country, a lot
of people have their livelihood severely impacted. Right. A lot
of people lost hope, They weren't able to give their
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kids to Christmas they're used to if they were even
able to give their kids Christmas at all. And so
a lot of people were looking forward to this relief
bill because it was going to give them the ability
to provide for their families unlike they've been really able
to do all this year. And then leaders of Congress
got together in the back rooms of Capitol Hill decided
that they are only worth six that's all that they
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would get. And they thought that the American people would
just line up and get on their knees and say, well,
thank you ter Pelosi and thank you to McConnell for
all of your graciousness. You are so so giving. And
I'm no weeds legal in d C. So I'm just
gonna assume and given them the benefit of the doubt
that they were high when they made this bill good.
There is no way you make this bill sober. There
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is no way that you can go with a straight face,
look the American people in the eye and say, hey, guys,
I'm gonna give you six hundred dollars to compensate for
the eight months of just absolute bullshit we've put you
all through. And that's it. I know you guys will
love us for it. But nevertheless, you know, the President
rejects that bill. He says, you know, this is ridiculous,
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like these people have been going through it, absolutely going
through it. We are not giving them just six hundred
dollars Like that's absurd, especially not in a bill that
relegates billions of dollars to foreign countries that don't even
like us. There aren't even the fans of America that
go out in the streets and actually chant death to America.
There is no way we give them billions of dollars,
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and we say to the American people, you only get
six hundred. And then of course the Democrats and cars
were like, well, I can you know, we actually spore
this a long long time. But then you see actual
headlines in the news that it was Nancy Pelosi said that, well,
six hundred wasn't all that we wanted, but it's still
pretty significant. Significant to who significant to the minimum wage
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worker who doesn't have a job anymore, lost all their
hours because your people Pelosi decided to shut down every
restaurant because of a virus that again has a survival
rate of ninety nine point nine. Is it significant to them?
The kid who works at that restaurant who pays their
own college tuition. Is it significant to them? Is it
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significant to the single mother of three children who works
a job all by herself, is the breadwinner for her family,
who had her job entirely eliminated? Is a significant to them?
Because anti Pelosi understand that you live in the pastious,
most luxurious, exclusive neighborhood of San Francisco. So maybe you
might think a significant in real America. But after the
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past few months, well the American people went through it
isn't you know, it's really it's it's it's one of
the same. This fight has really made clear that this
isn't about left versus right. Really, it's about people that
love this country and love the people in it, and
people that are just high on their horse who really
can't remember what it's like to be an everyday American
because they've been in Washington so long. And it's a
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shame the way I see it in this entire Covide
relief battle, mcconnellan close just one of the same. The
presidents asked for a simple bill that simply votes on
the code relief payments and and up and down vote
is all that requires. And for some reason that still
hasn't happened. I'm starting to wonder why. I'm really confused
about that, But I digress. I think we also have
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a new development in the fight to stop the steel
You know, we've covered that extensively here on the podcast
because it's an important discussion to have, but it's reached
the new frontier. On January six, the President has invited
his supports to come to Washington, just send on to Washington,
and has called it the wildest protests to be And
as I gotta tell you, as someone who has been
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very anxiously trying to book my flight and travel arrangements
for it, it definitely is shaping up to be just that.
I'm gonna tell you that, like almost every hotel in
DC is booked up. Almost every flight out of my
hometown of Augusta has been booked like it's insane. Like
I literally had to Like I got the worst flight
in the history of flights. It's like a crazy layover, um.
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But I had to be there. I had to be there.
I'm looking forward to speaking in d C on the
steps of the Capitol Um on January six, Urgent Congress
to do the right thing to not accept fraud and
encourage legislators like Jody Hies, who are actually interviewing later
on in the show, UM, to lead the fight to
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not certify the Electoral College results. Guys. We cannot accept
fraudulent electro results, right and when there is voter fraud,
that makes the entire batch of results fraudulent. Guys. One
illegal vote is one illegal vote too many. And thankfully
there are allies in Congress who believe just that you
actually have the constitutional power and I would even say
duty and obligation to do something of out it, and
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they intend to do just that. Jody Heiss choice us
next they'll tell us a little bit more about that. Guys.
This is c J. Gerson. Welcome back to c J.
Gerson on Sensor. And it's always exciting when I get
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to have people on the podcast too I've admired for
so long. You've personally inspired me. But also people who
are from my home state who are doing such incredible
work on behalf of the country, on behalf the conservative
movement and are really leading the fight, uh for this
president and in so many ways, Um, I'm actually fortunate
enough to live not too far away from this Congressman's district. Um. Literally,
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if I lived maybe like a street over, I would
be in Congressman Heights district. But UM, big fate of
my congressman too, who I do hope will be joined
the fight with Congressman Heights, UM to really fight to
stop the steel by objecting the electors um and the
certification of the Electoral College UM in the upcoming vote
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that will be happening in early January. Now, and Cogressmon
Heights is, of course a member of the Freedom Caucus
within the House of Representatives. He's been elected since I
believe fourteen, and ever since then he has been truly
leading the fight for conservatism in so many ways. Now
it's earned him a lot of enemies on the left,
but it has certainly earned him a lot of fans
on the right. And so, without further ado, Cogresson Heights,
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thank you so much for taking the time. We'll see
j Thank you You're very kind and your words and
your introduction. But listen, it is all my honor to
be here with you. Thank you for your voice and
for keeping the torch of blaze. We uh, we we
need you out there, and we're grateful that you're doing
what you do that means a lot of Corgressman, thank
you so much. And I've got to tell you, as
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someone who is eighteen years old and actually had the
honor of being UM one of the nominees Victoral College
for Georgia this past year, it really does mean a
lot to me, as as a constituent and as someone
who has been active to stop the Steel battle, to
see someone like yourself doing whatever it takes to ensure
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that there is integrity returned back UM to the way
that we conduct elections. Everything from calling UM for accountability
from the Georgias Secretary of State onto doing what you're
doing in Congress. You have truly been at the forefront
of this issue. Um. Can you tell us a little
bit about, you know, your involvement in all of this
and what kind of led you to be so vocal
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um as you are? Yeah, sure, you know, really the
obvious was the obvious, and I, like millions of other
people in Georgia and across the nation for that matter,
said on November three, as the election results came in,
President Trump was soaring throughout the entire nation. It looked
as though a massive red wave was coming and in
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fact it did. When you look at it, not a
single this is a stunning Not a single Republican incumbent
lost in the entire nation. And that is in regard
to the federal race of the House of Representats. Not
a single Republican income up loses. UH. That night, we're
seeing across the board massive games UH in the in
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the Republicans, UH, people rejecting the socialist Marxist agenda of
the radical Democrats. Right here in Georgia, we're watching President
Trump's sore. And then all of a sudden, at about
ten thirty PM, we get word that there is a
water main break in Fulton County, that they have shut
down the counting, they're sending poll watchers home, and then
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everything collapses. We wake up the next day only to
find out that some two hundred thousand votes were dumped
overnight in favor of Joe Biden, and everything changes, and
of course, the President supposedly ends up losing Georgia by
about twelve thousand votes. I mean, you could smell a
route from the very beginning. I can go back even
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further than that. CJ. The entire Georgia Congressional delegation in March,
had a conference call with Secretary of State Rappings Burger,
urging him, urging him not to send out applications for
absentee ballots to everyone on the voter registration list. We knew,
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everyone knew that was a disaster waiting to happen. He
did it anyway. Look, the voter registration list is probably
close to ten inaccurate, so you know, we're looking at
hundreds of thousands of individuals who received ballots, or at
least requests for ballots, who are not eligible to vote.
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Voter fraud was everywhere everywhere in this election. Uh. And
I could go down the whole list of things for you,
but that's what got me started. I watched it the
night of the third and I knew on that night
this was a fraud get election taking place in Georgia,
and so we've been fighting it ever since then. It's definitely, Congressman.
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And I think what you notice is what a lot
of Americans notice, um, and I've talked about it frequently
on this podcast here, is that it absolutely amazes me
when you just look at it just using common sense.
I don't know how anyone with a serious face can
explain to me how Joe Biden received more votes than
Barack Obama, right, love them or hay them, disagree with
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them on all you want. UM. The idea that someone
is unexciting and uninspiring as Joe Biden can receive more
votes than the first black president United States just doesn't
make much sense. And you look at other issues and
in total about the fact that Donald Trump actually wanted
more states increases shriff support among minorities, among black voters,
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and and so many other minority groups, but still somehow
managed to lose the presidency is something that just doesn't
make much sense. And and it's really fuel about what
you're talking about here. You know, the use of things
like Minion and the smart mantic voting machines that were
actually rejected by states like Texas, UM, but we're somehow,
for some reason, still used here in the state of Georgia.
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You know, in your conversations with the Georgia Secretary of
State Brad Riethensberger, has he given any defenses to why
he decided to use things like dominion or why he did,
like you said, decided to mail out these absentee ballot
applications to every single person on the vote registration lists
in spite of the fact that, like you said, there
are tons of accuracies, tons of people who have moved
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out of state, out of district, therefore wearing them ineligible
to vote. Uh no, there's no real explanation. And I
will say that we were not the only ones him
not to do it. There were many, many, many other
people advising him not to do it. But he did
it anyways. And and by the way, the fact that
he even did it in itself, I am convinced as illegal.
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The only ones who can change election law in this
state is the state legislature, and he totally by asked
the legislature and changed election law by sending out requests
for absentee ballots to everyone on the voter registration list.
That is changing the law. He also had drop off
boxes put out in different places. He had no authority
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to make that decision, and of course that became the
hub of ballot harvesting in the state of Georgia. And
so you go down a whole list of things, and
there were illegal activities. But you know, at the end
of the day, he came up with this consent decree
with Stacy Abrams and company. Because they were still screaming
that Georgia had suppressed votes two years ago and uh,
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he needed to fix it. And so this was the
remedy that that they agreed to. But again it was illegal.
Only the state legislature could make these kinds of decisions.
And so again that is yet another reason why the
votes here in Georgia should be questioned and the electoral
votes that were presented should be decertified, because from the
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very beginning this was an illegal election. The way it
was handled and the way it was managed. That's fine,
fully agree there. And you know, one thing that stands
out to me about you, Congressman, is you know you've
been uh you know, in Georgia politics, a voice even
before you were in Congress UM. But of course when
you were elected, I'm sure that you know you've campaigned
alongside UM folks like Secretary Raethvensburger and other statewide GOP officials.
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But in this fight you have not hesitated to call
him out over what many have seen is his unexplainable
desire to pander to the left and seek validation from
folks at CNN, folks like Stacey Abrams. And for me,
I think that's what separates a lot of people in
the Republican Party of day, the people that are willing
to fight, the people that are willing to roll over
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the people their career politicians, and the people are actually
patriots and public servants. But it has to be a
little weird, right you know. Um, you know you campaign
alongside him not too long ago. Um, and now you've
become kind of one of these fiercest critics. Tell us
a little bit about what kind of what being in
that position feels like for you as a sitting GOP official. Well,
you know, it is uncomfortable, but I'm sure it's very
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uncomfortable for him too. And I did. I stumped for
and my fundraisers for and my spoken is behalf. I
tried to urge people to go out and vote for him.
But to be very honest, he has done an extremely
poor job as a Secretary of State. He has taken
the law upon himself for which he had no authority
to do, and is absolutely led us in the most
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disastrous election in our state's history. I would would argue,
and now it's such a critical point in our nation. Uh,
it's one of the biggest disasters in national election history.
And now we're coming up on the Senate election, which
we all know hangs the balance not only the Senate,
but the balance of the direction of our country, be
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it for liberty or be it for Marxism and socialism,
and that should never have even we we shouldn't even
be having this discussion. All of that so rest on
the shoulders, ultimately of our Secretary of State, Brad Ruffinsburgers.
So you know, it's been very uncomfortable, and I have
tried very carefully not to attack him personally. When there
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have been threats against him or his family, I've stood
out against that. Never should there be acts of violence
or or threatening rhetoric against him. This is a percent
to me about policy. It's about doing the right thing,
and he has failed the voters of Georgia on both
of those fronts. He has not given us secure elections,
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and for that, I believe it's time for him to
to be replaced. Definite. And when it comes to it,
like you said, it's all about policy. And what I
think is most troubling to me, as someone who's been
really acting to stop the steel movement, I've traveled, uh
you know, I've been act of course here my homestate
of Georgia. I've been to the d C marches, have
spoken there organizing other states. Uh. And what has been
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most troubling to me, and I've noticed is the faith
that has been rocked by so the Americans and their confidence,
UM and our ability to conduct free and fair elections
as a country. If the American people cannot trust our
ability to administer free and fair elections, then why should
they vote? Um is a lot of things that I've
been asked, you know, when I'm telling people, hey, go
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vote for left Floor, go vote for Purdue, and I've
been met with, you know, comments like, well, they're just
gonna steal that one too. And that's the effect of
rathns Burgers and action and his incompetence really um in
the sense that when he refuses to actually do a
real signature matching, um, you know, auditing of the ballots,
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when he took so long to actually do a real recount,
all of these people are just throwing their arms hands up.
In the end, They're just like, then what does this
mean for my vote in the Senate race? But what
that cannot diminish is the importance of people voting. You've
hit the trail um for Senator's left floor and Purdue
Um because you believe, like I believe, that this is
truly gonna be a pivotal election that will decide the
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course in which our country will go. Will would be
a so listen, nation dominated by open borders in lawlessness,
will be a nation that carries on the legacy of
President Donald J. Trump, that upholds law and order and
the rule of law. And so tell us a little
bit about what you've been doing on the trail for
for both of them, and why you are so passionate
about seeing too that they're both reelected. I'm January. Yeah, listen,
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it's just what you said. I mean, we are at
a crossroads in our country. And you know, I have
said it for years and years, for decades now, it
seems like every election I'm saying, this is the most
important election of our lifetime. And I've been very sincere
in that. But I've never seen anything like we are
dealing with now. Literally, we are facing a National Democratic
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Party in Washington, d C. That has swallowed hook line
and sinker socialism and Marxism as their platform, literally, and
it's frightening. We've never kind of seen this type of
political uh change with the momentum behind it that we
have these days. So you're looking at an election that
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has just unbelievable consequences if we don't fight and win
for liberty. You know that has gotten me involved. In
your description a moment ago is fully accurate. I've literally
been on the campaign trail. I've been on the bus tours,
I've been uh doing everything I can to encourage people
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to vote, and have spoken with hundreds of people, and yeah,
they're fearful that their vote is not going to count.
And that is the worst thing that people can do
right now is not to vote. We've got to vote.
At the same time, we've got to deal with for all.
We cannot suite this under the rug and pretend as
though it did not happen. If we lose free and
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fair elections in this country, we will ultimately lose our republic.
This is what separates us from other nations around the world,
that our elections are fair, that only legal ballots are
cast and own legal ballots are counted. If we ever
lose that, we ultimately are going to lose our republic.
So the fight right now is on two grounds. We
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have got to deal with the fraud issue and and
address it right now as it related to the president. UH,
and and make sure it does not happen again on
January the fifth as it did on November the three.
But then at the same time, we've got to have
people go out and vote and overwhelm what potential fraud
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there may be in this uh, this next one, I
will say, there's a lot more eyes out there this
next go around, there's a lot more people on the ground.
So although I'm confident there will still be fraud, I
think it will be more difficult for them to succeeds.
And even with your efforts on behalf of then there's
Leffler and per Due. You haven't given up fighting for
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President Trump as well. Actually, you met with the President
and a three hour long meeting strategizing about what will
happen when it comes time for Congress to certified he
results he Electoral College. Um, you've already come out and
stead that you will oppose that certification. Along with several
other members of the Republican cantatt within the House, including
Representative no Brents of Alabama, Representative Marjorie Green also of Georgia.
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In addition, to a few others. So kind of tell
us how that meeting went and what kind of the
game plan is uh in the weeks that lie ahead. Well,
it was a very good meeting. And I will say
the President is he's just a remarkable individual. He still
maintains a very high spirit, is very optimistic. He's as
always very humorous and very personal. But I tell you
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he has fight in his belly. He knows that he
was robbed at this election, and we do too. But
the meeting yesterday, you know, really the ball is in
our court. Uh at this point as congress men and women.
The president does not have a vote. We do. So
our message to him was one in an essence has said,
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Mr President, this is what we are doing, and we
want to assist, and we want your assistance in any
way we can. But we're fighting this thing and we're
gonna fight it to the end. And at the end
of the day. Although the courts have refused to look
at these cases of fraud, and I believe in inappropriately,
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so how can they look at evidence if they don't
take the case? I mean, and and yet we hear
the mainstream media say there's no evidence, there's no evidence
were the the evidence is there. The fact is the
courts have not looked at the evidence because they don't
want to look at these cases. Uh, and so we
have not been able to have our case in the courts,
and so we are now going to have our case
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in Congress. And this is our opportunity to take the
case to the American people, to lay the facts, to
lay the evidence out before the American people as well
as before the House of Representatives and the Senator, and
hopefully we'll be able to to move the needle. It's
an uphill battle, we all understand that, but this is
the constitutional tool that we have at this point to
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take the battle straight open, out loud, both to Congress
and to the American people. Gosha and so from hearing
you describe that, it kind of sounds as if we've
reached kind of a new frontier in this fight. You know,
as you said, it's not really up to the presidence
the president anymore, it's not really even up to the
courts anymore. It's now really in the hands of Congress completely.
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And so to some of our listeners who might not
be familiar with what the process is, I think a
lot of people probably are. We kind of found ourselves
in a really uncharted territory, which is probably the most
thing ever. There's never there's been nothing precedent about this
year in any way. UM, tell us about what will
happen when you lodge your objection um on the floor
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of Congress. What is that process going to look like
in terms of just procedure and and whatnot, and and
maybe pulling out a win for the president? What would
that look like? Well, in the first place, this has
happened in our nation's past, I believe this. I believe
it's happened three times. Uh. And and interesting to our
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constitutional founders gave us a system that if there is
a contested election, our court systems are not really set
up uh to accurately deal with election issues like that,
it's left up to Congress when he deals with elections
regarding the president. When when the presidential election is involved,
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it's left up to Congress. But what this will look like?
The Vice president will go there will be a joint
session of Congress House ends, and that the Vice president
will start naming states in alphabetical order with their Electoral
College votes as they have been certified and submitted. If
there is an objection saying he goes in alphabetical order,
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he comes to Arizona and there will be an objection
from Arizona. I believe Paul Gosara is going to do that,
and then when it gets to Georgia, I will make
that objection for Georgia. But what happens is the Vice
President will be naming the states the electoral UH College votes.
When there is an objection, everything stops. If there is
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a senator to join the the objection of the House member,
then the two chambers, the House and the Senate will separate.
Senate will go to their chamber. House will stay in
the House chamber and for two hours they will debate
the objections. At the end of their debate time, they
will vote each chamber. And the only way that the
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ball moves forward for that state is if both chambers
de certify and reject the submission of the Electoral College
that has been certified by the states. So both chambers
have to recognize that the this is uh an Electoral
College presentation that should be rejected. If now there are
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in this case three states that have their electoral votes rejected,
than neither one Biden nor Trump have to seventy and
at that point it will be left to a vote
of the House of Representatives, and that would consist of
each state having one vote, not each member of Congress,
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but every state will have one vote. And in that scenario,
if it gets there, the president would be in good
shape because obviously there are more Republicans states than there
are Democratic states. It's an uphill battle, but that's the
basic description of the process. Interesting. That's really interesting, and
I think it's interesting to to learn that this is
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not an unpresidented action like a lot of people in
the media have reported to be. Like it's happened before
in the course of human history, of American history. And
it's also a tool that our founding fathers, with incredible
foresight as they often have, you know, predicted um and
gave the Congress to a ploy in times like these. Now.
What's interesting though, that you mentioned that for estates who
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be decertified, that it would all that would have to
be decertified by both chambers of Congress, so to senate
in the House. UM. So when it comes down to
de certifying, a state like Georgia might not meet Summers
a sense in the House controlled by Nancy Pelosi in anyway. Absolutely,
And that's what makes us such an uphill battle because
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obviously Nancy Pelosi is going to do everything she can
to make sure that her Democratic Party will not go
along with this. But here's the argument. Here's the argument,
and and and at least a basic argument for me,
We've got to get away from the politics, get away
from the rhetoric, get away from the partisanship. This is
about free impair elections, period. That's what it's about. And
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if we lose that right as as a country, we lose,
everybody loses. And so this is not about Trump, it
is not about Biden, it is not about republic Looking
or Democrat. It is about free and fair elections, period.
And so we're gonna put forth the evidence as to
how this election was filled with frogstly and and it's
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definitely I hope that you will find people much like yourself,
you know, people who realize that this is not about partnership,
is instead about patriotism. And again the giving me American
people the confidence and faith back that they deserve to
have in our ability to conduct elections in this country,
because if we don't, as you mentioned earlier in the
show what separates us from countries like Venezuela, what separates
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us from countries like Cuba where leaders are installed and
not elected. And I think that's why this fight is
so important. It's what I say oftentimes when I'm out
on the road talking about this, is that this is
this is bigger than Donald Trump. This is bigger than
the Republican Party winning or anything like that. This is
about folks in my generation who are already cynical about
a political process being um uninfluenced by them that their
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vote doesn't matter, basically being able to being able to
see that it actually does that when you actually fight
with conviction, and that we actually show some courage about
these fights. And and we're doing this not because it's easy,
but because it is hard, right And you know, and
and last question here, it's gonna be so important that
you that you have some allies in the Senate for
this to go through. We've heard some things from Tommy
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Tubberville which have been supportive. Have you had any conversations
with Senators left work per Do about what they may
do come time for this to come up for a vote. Yeah,
obviously we're reaching out to both of them. Uh, and
and those conversations are are ongoing. Uh. They are both
very much open. In fact, I think UH Senator Perdue
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is is ready to go. The problem he has technically
is he will not be a Senator on the on
the sixth. The term expires on the third and uh,
and then the election is on the fifth, and so
he may or may not be certified come the the
six Lei Leffler, on the other hand, is feeling the
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unexpired term of Johnny Isaacson, which that term does not
end for another two years. So this election for her
is not uh to take away the Senate term, is
just to say that Georgia is saying, yeah, we want
you to finish his term. So she, in either case
will still be the Senator on the sixth. So that's
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kind of a uh an interesting little twist going on
from that perspective. But there are other senators as well
that we are all in communication with, in contact with,
and I have no question that that, well, we'll have
the senators who will stand with us as we move
forward with these objections. Desfinitely, definitely, Well the Carrson hides,
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thank you so much for everything you're doing. On behalf
of the country. Um on behalf of all republic and
doing everything that you are to ensure that the American
people again have their confidence restored, you know, in our
in our country's ability to elect our leaders and to
stop this deal because as you said, if we allow
this type of fraud to happen this election, it will
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happen again and again and again, and we'll just never stop. Um.
Whenever you're ready for higher office, let us know we'll
be happy to support you on that front for sure. Well,
thank you, see Jane, thanks for all you're doing. Listen,
We're in this together. This is our country. Uh, this
is our turf, and we've got a stand for liberty
and fight for it and pass it along to your
generation and the generations you have to come. So to you,
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your listeners, your viewers, I just say, hats off to
everyone on their heroes and let's get out there and
let's fight for liberty and let's pass it on to
the next generation type playing. Well, thank you so much.
Congressman heis, thank you, and welcome back, guys. And that
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was Congressman Jody Hays. Uh, you heard from him. The
plan that lies ahead in the coming day is a huge,
huge event happening in Washington January six. Be there. If
you don't have plans to be there, make some plans
to be there. The President has encouraged all of his
supporters to make the trip, and it's for good reason.
(34:12):
You know. I hate to borrow anything from the Washington Post,
but I've got to say it's a pretty catchy and
good line. They used to say that democracy dies in darkness, right,
and there are actually some truth to that statement. You know.
The politicians today, I think they need to be reminded
about what the American people want from them, and what
the American people want from them more than anything right now,
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is not for them to pander, for them to be weak,
them to actually sow some conviction and maybe, just maybe
if the voters who actually elected them sent them there,
you know, because the thing about Washington is that these
people get elected to Washington and they forget the people
that actually put them in the seat that they hold.
They forget the people who gave them the title that
makes them a senator, that makes them a congressman. Because somehow,
(34:57):
some way, there's something about Washington, something about Washington that
makes people forget why they are where they are, but
it's hard to forget when the five million people who
are the reason of your being, the reason of your importance,
the reason of your significance, or right outside the capital
as you vote to determine whether or not you will
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accept voter fraud in this country or rejected, whether or
not you will stand with the president or abandon him.
It is hard to abandon ship. Then it's hard to
disobey and be disloyal to the base that's put you
where you were then. And maybe that's the pressure that
this Congress needs. It's certainly the pressure that Mr McConnell
shows that he needs, because he seems to have forgotten
(35:40):
who he serves in, which party he's within, because sometimes
I just don't know, but I guess this is even
about party right at this point. Actually tweeted earlier this week,
I said, both parties have actually fundamentally failed American people,
and I think every single day that becomes more and
more clear. The reality of that is starker than ever before.
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Both parties have long, for far too long, misled the
American people into believing that they actually care about us.
But what we've seen is weakness from the Republicans We've seen,
downright just terrible attempts from the left to remake America
into some socialist dystopia. And I've got to say right now,
i gotta say I'm feeling a little bit politically homeless,
(36:23):
and I'm still conservative, as conservative as ever. Maybe that's
why I'm feeling political homeless, because it seems as if
the Republican Party has forgotten as roots, It's forgotten how
to fight. But I believe that it is still worth saving.
I believe that with people like Jody Heights and others,
there is still there is still light at the end
of the tunnel. There is still hope to be had,
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and it is time for us to take our country
back and to take our party back with it. We
can do it, and I believe that that next step,
that next frontier, It starts in Washington, d C. On
January six. It starts again with bold visionary leaders like
Jody Heis and the people that are going to join
him in the House, Folks like Cotgressman Barry Moore, Congressman
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Moe Brooks out of Alabama. Those folks, It starts with them.
The marathon continues, the fight goes on. America. We are
not giving up on you. We are going to take
you back. Thank you so much, guys, I'll see you
next week. Hey guys, c J. Pierson here. Join us
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right here on Apple Podcast, I Heart Radio or wherever
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Up next c J. Pearson Uncensored, part of the English
TwixT network. Right now, I gotta say, I'm feeling a
little bit politically homeless, and I'm still conservative, as conservative
as ever. Maybe that's why I'm feeling political homeless, because
it seems as if the Republican Party has forgotten as routes,
it's forgotten how to fight. Hi guys, I'm c J. Pierson.
(00:23):
Welcome to episode nine of c J person Uncensored. So
last week, I know I kind of told you guys
that like that was gonna be the last episode of
c J Persnsensor for the year. Well news, Um, I lied.
It's not because I don't know why I fooled myself
into thinking that. I guess there will we would just
run out of things to talk about in because has
(00:45):
proven itself to be anything about a year of normalcy,
Like things will probably happen up until the end. I
like a post home snapchat Like yesterday, I was like
just kind of realized that surviving itself was a collegement
of its time. So like if you did that, like
craise yourself like you deserve it, you are an o G.
(01:05):
You won the year. Um, and then one of my
friends split up there like CJ, like the years on over,
like it's still going, like let's not speak too soon.
I was like, I was like, Ship, Yeah, you're kind
of right, You're kind of right. And the last week
we've seen so much stuff happened, and a lot of
stuff that's honestly actually mad, be really mad. I am
mad because it really is shown that the political leadership
(01:27):
in this country is fundamentally broken. That we have elected
people who genuinely don't give a dame about us two
positions of power that they don't deserve. I saw what
happened with this COVID bill, which was so called supposed
to provide COVID relief, and I'm just like confused because
I'm like, in what way is this actually like relief?
(01:49):
Here in America. We've seen in Blue States people have
their businesses closed down. We've seen people have their hours
reduced if their jobs aren't completely eliminated altogether. We seeing
people get arrested for mask mandates and all of these things.
Our country has become an absolute ship show. The survival
rate of COVID is ninety nine point nine eight percent,
(02:10):
and if you want to really see people lose their
mind telling the round up when you say that number,
by the way, right, um, But now, like seriously, like
no one's diminishing the seriesness of COVID. Code is real.
COVID is unfortunate, And to everyone who's lost a level
on because of COVID, my heart goes out to you.
But guys, here's another reality. People die every single year
(02:31):
because the flu. They die every single year because of suicide,
They die every single year because so many things. We
don't shut down the world because of it, because if
we did that, every single time a lot of people
started dieing because of a certain thing or a certain ailment,
our society even ceased to function. It would never go on.
And so I've kind of reached this point where it's like, guys,
(02:53):
COVID is real. COVID is terrible, but we need to
push forward as a society, as a country, as a
commu unity, like we need to push forward. But the
reality of it is that because of the hysteria we
allowed to be whipped up in this country, a lot
of people have their livelihood severely impacted. Right. A lot
of people lost hope, They weren't able to give their
(03:14):
kids to Christmas they're used to if they were even
able to give their kids Christmas at all. And so
a lot of people were looking forward to this relief
bill because it was going to give them the ability
to provide for their families unlike they've been really able
to do all this year. And then leaders of Congress
got together in the back rooms of Capitol Hill decided
that they are only worth six that's all that they
(03:35):
would get. And they thought that the American people would
just line up and get on their knees and say, well,
thank you ter Pelosi and thank you to McConnell for
all of your graciousness. You are so so giving. And
I'm no weeds legal in d C. So I'm just
gonna assume and given them the benefit of the doubt
that they were high when they made this bill good.
There is no way you make this bill sober. There
(03:55):
is no way that you can go with a straight face,
look the American people in the eye and say, hey, guys,
I'm gonna give you six hundred dollars to compensate for
the eight months of just absolute bullshit we've put you
all through. And that's it. I know you guys will
love us for it. But nevertheless, you know, the President
rejects that bill. He says, you know, this is ridiculous,
(04:16):
like these people have been going through it, absolutely going
through it. We are not giving them just six hundred
dollars Like that's absurd, especially not in a bill that
relegates billions of dollars to foreign countries that don't even
like us. There aren't even the fans of America that
go out in the streets and actually chant death to America.
There is no way we give them billions of dollars,
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and we say to the American people, you only get
six hundred. And then of course the Democrats and cars
were like, well, I can you know, we actually spore
this a long long time. But then you see actual
headlines in the news that it was Nancy Pelosi said that, well,
six hundred wasn't all that we wanted, but it's still
pretty significant. Significant to who significant to the minimum wage
(05:00):
worker who doesn't have a job anymore, lost all their
hours because your people Pelosi decided to shut down every
restaurant because of a virus that again has a survival
rate of ninety nine point nine. Is it significant to them?
The kid who works at that restaurant who pays their
own college tuition. Is it significant to them? Is it
(05:23):
significant to the single mother of three children who works
a job all by herself, is the breadwinner for her family,
who had her job entirely eliminated? Is a significant to them?
Because anti Pelosi understand that you live in the pastious,
most luxurious, exclusive neighborhood of San Francisco. So maybe you
might think a significant in real America. But after the
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past few months, well the American people went through it
isn't you know, it's really it's it's it's one of
the same. This fight has really made clear that this
isn't about left versus right. Really, it's about people that
love this country and love the people in it, and
people that are just high on their horse who really
can't remember what it's like to be an everyday American
because they've been in Washington so long. And it's a
(06:09):
shame the way I see it in this entire Covide
relief battle, mcconnellan close just one of the same. The
presidents asked for a simple bill that simply votes on
the code relief payments and and up and down vote
is all that requires. And for some reason that still
hasn't happened. I'm starting to wonder why. I'm really confused
about that, But I digress. I think we also have
(06:32):
a new development in the fight to stop the steel
You know, we've covered that extensively here on the podcast
because it's an important discussion to have, but it's reached
the new frontier. On January six, the President has invited
his supports to come to Washington, just send on to Washington,
and has called it the wildest protests to be And
as I gotta tell you, as someone who has been
(06:54):
very anxiously trying to book my flight and travel arrangements
for it, it definitely is shaping up to be just that.
I'm gonna tell you that, like almost every hotel in
DC is booked up. Almost every flight out of my
hometown of Augusta has been booked like it's insane. Like
I literally had to Like I got the worst flight
in the history of flights. It's like a crazy layover, um.
(07:18):
But I had to be there. I had to be there.
I'm looking forward to speaking in d C on the
steps of the Capitol Um on January six, Urgent Congress
to do the right thing to not accept fraud and
encourage legislators like Jody Hies, who are actually interviewing later
on in the show, UM, to lead the fight to
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not certify the Electoral College results. Guys. We cannot accept
fraudulent electro results, right and when there is voter fraud,
that makes the entire batch of results fraudulent. Guys. One
illegal vote is one illegal vote too many. And thankfully
there are allies in Congress who believe just that you
actually have the constitutional power and I would even say
duty and obligation to do something of out it, and
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they intend to do just that. Jody Heiss choice us
next they'll tell us a little bit more about that. Guys.
This is c J. Gerson. Welcome back to c J.
Gerson on Sensor. And it's always exciting when I get
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to have people on the podcast too I've admired for
so long. You've personally inspired me. But also people who
are from my home state who are doing such incredible
work on behalf of the country, on behalf the conservative
movement and are really leading the fight, uh for this
president and in so many ways, Um, I'm actually fortunate
enough to live not too far away from this Congressman's district. Um. Literally,
(08:45):
if I lived maybe like a street over, I would
be in Congressman Heights district. But UM, big fate of
my congressman too, who I do hope will be joined
the fight with Congressman Heights, UM to really fight to
stop the steel by objecting the electors um and the
certification of the Electoral College UM in the upcoming vote
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that will be happening in early January. Now, and Cogressmon
Heights is, of course a member of the Freedom Caucus
within the House of Representatives. He's been elected since I
believe fourteen, and ever since then he has been truly
leading the fight for conservatism in so many ways. Now
it's earned him a lot of enemies on the left,
but it has certainly earned him a lot of fans
on the right. And so, without further ado, Cogresson Heights,
(09:30):
thank you so much for taking the time. We'll see
j Thank you You're very kind and your words and
your introduction. But listen, it is all my honor to
be here with you. Thank you for your voice and
for keeping the torch of blaze. We uh, we we
need you out there, and we're grateful that you're doing
what you do that means a lot of Corgressman, thank
you so much. And I've got to tell you, as
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someone who is eighteen years old and actually had the
honor of being UM one of the nominees Victoral College
for Georgia this past year, it really does mean a
lot to me, as as a constituent and as someone
who has been active to stop the Steel battle, to
see someone like yourself doing whatever it takes to ensure
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that there is integrity returned back UM to the way
that we conduct elections. Everything from calling UM for accountability
from the Georgias Secretary of State onto doing what you're
doing in Congress. You have truly been at the forefront
of this issue. Um. Can you tell us a little
bit about, you know, your involvement in all of this
and what kind of led you to be so vocal
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um as you are? Yeah, sure, you know, really the
obvious was the obvious, and I, like millions of other
people in Georgia and across the nation for that matter,
said on November three, as the election results came in,
President Trump was soaring throughout the entire nation. It looked
as though a massive red wave was coming and in
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fact it did. When you look at it, not a
single this is a stunning Not a single Republican incumbent
lost in the entire nation. And that is in regard
to the federal race of the House of Representats. Not
a single Republican income up loses. UH. That night, we're
seeing across the board massive games UH in the in
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the Republicans, UH, people rejecting the socialist Marxist agenda of
the radical Democrats. Right here in Georgia, we're watching President
Trump's sore. And then all of a sudden, at about
ten thirty PM, we get word that there is a
water main break in Fulton County, that they have shut
down the counting, they're sending poll watchers home, and then
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everything collapses. We wake up the next day only to
find out that some two hundred thousand votes were dumped
overnight in favor of Joe Biden, and everything changes, and
of course, the President supposedly ends up losing Georgia by
about twelve thousand votes. I mean, you could smell a
route from the very beginning. I can go back even
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further than that. CJ. The entire Georgia Congressional delegation in March,
had a conference call with Secretary of State Rappings Burger,
urging him, urging him not to send out applications for
absentee ballots to everyone on the voter registration list. We knew,
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everyone knew that was a disaster waiting to happen. He
did it anyway. Look, the voter registration list is probably
close to ten inaccurate, so you know, we're looking at
hundreds of thousands of individuals who received ballots, or at
least requests for ballots, who are not eligible to vote.
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Voter fraud was everywhere everywhere in this election. Uh. And
I could go down the whole list of things for you,
but that's what got me started. I watched it the
night of the third and I knew on that night
this was a fraud get election taking place in Georgia,
and so we've been fighting it ever since then. It's definitely, Congressman.
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And I think what you notice is what a lot
of Americans notice, um, and I've talked about it frequently
on this podcast here, is that it absolutely amazes me
when you just look at it just using common sense.
I don't know how anyone with a serious face can
explain to me how Joe Biden received more votes than
Barack Obama, right, love them or hay them, disagree with
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them on all you want. UM. The idea that someone
is unexciting and uninspiring as Joe Biden can receive more
votes than the first black president United States just doesn't
make much sense. And you look at other issues and
in total about the fact that Donald Trump actually wanted
more states increases shriff support among minorities, among black voters,
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and and so many other minority groups, but still somehow
managed to lose the presidency is something that just doesn't
make much sense. And and it's really fuel about what
you're talking about here. You know, the use of things
like Minion and the smart mantic voting machines that were
actually rejected by states like Texas, UM, but we're somehow,
for some reason, still used here in the state of Georgia.
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You know, in your conversations with the Georgia Secretary of
State Brad Riethensberger, has he given any defenses to why
he decided to use things like dominion or why he did,
like you said, decided to mail out these absentee ballot
applications to every single person on the vote registration lists
in spite of the fact that, like you said, there
are tons of accuracies, tons of people who have moved
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out of state, out of district, therefore wearing them ineligible
to vote. Uh no, there's no real explanation. And I
will say that we were not the only ones him
not to do it. There were many, many, many other
people advising him not to do it. But he did
it anyways. And and by the way, the fact that
he even did it in itself, I am convinced as illegal.
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The only ones who can change election law in this
state is the state legislature, and he totally by asked
the legislature and changed election law by sending out requests
for absentee ballots to everyone on the voter registration list.
That is changing the law. He also had drop off
boxes put out in different places. He had no authority
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to make that decision, and of course that became the
hub of ballot harvesting in the state of Georgia. And
so you go down a whole list of things, and
there were illegal activities. But you know, at the end
of the day, he came up with this consent decree
with Stacy Abrams and company. Because they were still screaming
that Georgia had suppressed votes two years ago and uh,
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he needed to fix it. And so this was the
remedy that that they agreed to. But again it was illegal.
Only the state legislature could make these kinds of decisions.
And so again that is yet another reason why the
votes here in Georgia should be questioned and the electoral
votes that were presented should be decertified, because from the
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very beginning this was an illegal election. The way it
was handled and the way it was managed. That's fine,
fully agree there. And you know, one thing that stands
out to me about you, Congressman, is you know you've
been uh you know, in Georgia politics, a voice even
before you were in Congress UM. But of course when
you were elected, I'm sure that you know you've campaigned
alongside UM folks like Secretary Raethvensburger and other statewide GOP officials.
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But in this fight you have not hesitated to call
him out over what many have seen is his unexplainable
desire to pander to the left and seek validation from
folks at CNN, folks like Stacey Abrams. And for me,
I think that's what separates a lot of people in
the Republican Party of day, the people that are willing
to fight, the people that are willing to roll over
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the people their career politicians, and the people are actually
patriots and public servants. But it has to be a
little weird, right you know. Um, you know you campaign
alongside him not too long ago. Um, and now you've
become kind of one of these fiercest critics. Tell us
a little bit about what kind of what being in
that position feels like for you as a sitting GOP official. Well,
you know, it is uncomfortable, but I'm sure it's very
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uncomfortable for him too. And I did. I stumped for
and my fundraisers for and my spoken is behalf. I
tried to urge people to go out and vote for him.
But to be very honest, he has done an extremely
poor job as a Secretary of State. He has taken
the law upon himself for which he had no authority
to do, and is absolutely led us in the most
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disastrous election in our state's history. I would would argue,
and now it's such a critical point in our nation. Uh,
it's one of the biggest disasters in national election history.
And now we're coming up on the Senate election, which
we all know hangs the balance not only the Senate,
but the balance of the direction of our country, be
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it for liberty or be it for Marxism and socialism,
and that should never have even we we shouldn't even
be having this discussion. All of that so rest on
the shoulders, ultimately of our Secretary of State, Brad Ruffinsburgers.
So you know, it's been very uncomfortable, and I have
tried very carefully not to attack him personally. When there
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have been threats against him or his family, I've stood
out against that. Never should there be acts of violence
or or threatening rhetoric against him. This is a percent
to me about policy. It's about doing the right thing,
and he has failed the voters of Georgia on both
of those fronts. He has not given us secure elections,
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and for that, I believe it's time for him to
to be replaced. Definite. And when it comes to it,
like you said, it's all about policy. And what I
think is most troubling to me, as someone who's been
really acting to stop the steel movement, I've traveled, uh
you know, I've been act of course here my homestate
of Georgia. I've been to the d C marches, have
spoken there organizing other states. Uh. And what has been
(18:54):
most troubling to me, and I've noticed is the faith
that has been rocked by so the Americans and their confidence,
UM and our ability to conduct free and fair elections
as a country. If the American people cannot trust our
ability to administer free and fair elections, then why should
they vote? Um is a lot of things that I've
been asked, you know, when I'm telling people, hey, go
(19:15):
vote for left Floor, go vote for Purdue, and I've
been met with, you know, comments like, well, they're just
gonna steal that one too. And that's the effect of
rathns Burgers and action and his incompetence really um in
the sense that when he refuses to actually do a
real signature matching, um, you know, auditing of the ballots,
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when he took so long to actually do a real recount,
all of these people are just throwing their arms hands up.
In the end, They're just like, then what does this
mean for my vote in the Senate race? But what
that cannot diminish is the importance of people voting. You've
hit the trail um for Senator's left floor and Purdue
Um because you believe, like I believe, that this is
truly gonna be a pivotal election that will decide the
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course in which our country will go. Will would be
a so listen, nation dominated by open borders in lawlessness,
will be a nation that carries on the legacy of
President Donald J. Trump, that upholds law and order and
the rule of law. And so tell us a little
bit about what you've been doing on the trail for
for both of them, and why you are so passionate
about seeing too that they're both reelected. I'm January. Yeah, listen,
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it's just what you said. I mean, we are at
a crossroads in our country. And you know, I have
said it for years and years, for decades now, it
seems like every election I'm saying, this is the most
important election of our lifetime. And I've been very sincere
in that. But I've never seen anything like we are
dealing with now. Literally, we are facing a National Democratic
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Party in Washington, d C. That has swallowed hook line
and sinker socialism and Marxism as their platform, literally, and
it's frightening. We've never kind of seen this type of
political uh change with the momentum behind it that we
have these days. So you're looking at an election that
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has just unbelievable consequences if we don't fight and win
for liberty. You know that has gotten me involved. In
your description a moment ago is fully accurate. I've literally
been on the campaign trail. I've been on the bus tours,
I've been uh doing everything I can to encourage people
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to vote, and have spoken with hundreds of people, and yeah,
they're fearful that their vote is not going to count.
And that is the worst thing that people can do
right now is not to vote. We've got to vote.
At the same time, we've got to deal with for all.
We cannot suite this under the rug and pretend as
though it did not happen. If we lose free and
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fair elections in this country, we will ultimately lose our republic.
This is what separates us from other nations around the world,
that our elections are fair, that only legal ballots are
cast and own legal ballots are counted. If we ever
lose that, we ultimately are going to lose our republic.
So the fight right now is on two grounds. We
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have got to deal with the fraud issue and and
address it right now as it related to the president. UH,
and and make sure it does not happen again on
January the fifth as it did on November the three.
But then at the same time, we've got to have
people go out and vote and overwhelm what potential fraud
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there may be in this uh, this next one, I
will say, there's a lot more eyes out there this
next go around, there's a lot more people on the ground.
So although I'm confident there will still be fraud, I
think it will be more difficult for them to succeeds.
And even with your efforts on behalf of then there's
Leffler and per Due. You haven't given up fighting for
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President Trump as well. Actually, you met with the President
and a three hour long meeting strategizing about what will
happen when it comes time for Congress to certified he
results he Electoral College. Um, you've already come out and
stead that you will oppose that certification. Along with several
other members of the Republican cantatt within the House, including
Representative no Brents of Alabama, Representative Marjorie Green also of Georgia.
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In addition, to a few others. So kind of tell
us how that meeting went and what kind of the
game plan is uh in the weeks that lie ahead. Well,
it was a very good meeting. And I will say
the President is he's just a remarkable individual. He still
maintains a very high spirit, is very optimistic. He's as
always very humorous and very personal. But I tell you
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he has fight in his belly. He knows that he
was robbed at this election, and we do too. But
the meeting yesterday, you know, really the ball is in
our court. Uh at this point as congress men and women.
The president does not have a vote. We do. So
our message to him was one in an essence has said,
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Mr President, this is what we are doing, and we
want to assist, and we want your assistance in any
way we can. But we're fighting this thing and we're
gonna fight it to the end. And at the end
of the day. Although the courts have refused to look
at these cases of fraud, and I believe in inappropriately,
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so how can they look at evidence if they don't
take the case? I mean, and and yet we hear
the mainstream media say there's no evidence, there's no evidence
were the the evidence is there. The fact is the
courts have not looked at the evidence because they don't
want to look at these cases. Uh, and so we
have not been able to have our case in the courts,
and so we are now going to have our case
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in Congress. And this is our opportunity to take the
case to the American people, to lay the facts, to
lay the evidence out before the American people as well
as before the House of Representatives and the Senator, and
hopefully we'll be able to to move the needle. It's
an uphill battle, we all understand that, but this is
the constitutional tool that we have at this point to
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take the battle straight open, out loud, both to Congress
and to the American people. Gosha and so from hearing
you describe that, it kind of sounds as if we've
reached kind of a new frontier in this fight. You know,
as you said, it's not really up to the presidence
the president anymore, it's not really even up to the
courts anymore. It's now really in the hands of Congress completely.
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And so to some of our listeners who might not
be familiar with what the process is, I think a
lot of people probably are. We kind of found ourselves
in a really uncharted territory, which is probably the most
thing ever. There's never there's been nothing precedent about this
year in any way. UM, tell us about what will
happen when you lodge your objection um on the floor
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of Congress. What is that process going to look like
in terms of just procedure and and whatnot, and and
maybe pulling out a win for the president? What would
that look like? Well, in the first place, this has
happened in our nation's past, I believe this. I believe
it's happened three times. Uh. And and interesting to our
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constitutional founders gave us a system that if there is
a contested election, our court systems are not really set
up uh to accurately deal with election issues like that,
it's left up to Congress when he deals with elections
regarding the president. When when the presidential election is involved,
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it's left up to Congress. But what this will look like?
The Vice president will go there will be a joint
session of Congress House ends, and that the Vice president
will start naming states in alphabetical order with their Electoral
College votes as they have been certified and submitted. If
there is an objection saying he goes in alphabetical order,
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he comes to Arizona and there will be an objection
from Arizona. I believe Paul Gosara is going to do that,
and then when it gets to Georgia, I will make
that objection for Georgia. But what happens is the Vice
President will be naming the states the electoral UH College votes.
When there is an objection, everything stops. If there is
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a senator to join the the objection of the House member,
then the two chambers, the House and the Senate will separate.
Senate will go to their chamber. House will stay in
the House chamber and for two hours they will debate
the objections. At the end of their debate time, they
will vote each chamber. And the only way that the
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ball moves forward for that state is if both chambers
de certify and reject the submission of the Electoral College
that has been certified by the states. So both chambers
have to recognize that the this is uh an Electoral
College presentation that should be rejected. If now there are
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in this case three states that have their electoral votes rejected,
than neither one Biden nor Trump have to seventy and
at that point it will be left to a vote
of the House of Representatives, and that would consist of
each state having one vote, not each member of Congress,
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but every state will have one vote. And in that scenario,
if it gets there, the president would be in good
shape because obviously there are more Republicans states than there
are Democratic states. It's an uphill battle, but that's the
basic description of the process. Interesting. That's really interesting, and
I think it's interesting to to learn that this is
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not an unpresidented action like a lot of people in
the media have reported to be. Like it's happened before
in the course of human history, of American history. And
it's also a tool that our founding fathers, with incredible
foresight as they often have, you know, predicted um and
gave the Congress to a ploy in times like these. Now.
What's interesting though, that you mentioned that for estates who
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be decertified, that it would all that would have to
be decertified by both chambers of Congress, so to senate
in the House. UM. So when it comes down to
de certifying, a state like Georgia might not meet Summers
a sense in the House controlled by Nancy Pelosi in anyway. Absolutely,
And that's what makes us such an uphill battle because
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obviously Nancy Pelosi is going to do everything she can
to make sure that her Democratic Party will not go
along with this. But here's the argument. Here's the argument,
and and and at least a basic argument for me,
We've got to get away from the politics, get away
from the rhetoric, get away from the partisanship. This is
about free impair elections, period. That's what it's about. And
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if we lose that right as as a country, we lose,
everybody loses. And so this is not about Trump, it
is not about Biden, it is not about republic Looking
or Democrat. It is about free and fair elections, period.
And so we're gonna put forth the evidence as to
how this election was filled with frogstly and and it's
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definitely I hope that you will find people much like yourself,
you know, people who realize that this is not about partnership,
is instead about patriotism. And again the giving me American
people the confidence and faith back that they deserve to
have in our ability to conduct elections in this country,
because if we don't, as you mentioned earlier in the
show what separates us from countries like Venezuela, what separates
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us from countries like Cuba where leaders are installed and
not elected. And I think that's why this fight is
so important. It's what I say oftentimes when I'm out
on the road talking about this, is that this is
this is bigger than Donald Trump. This is bigger than
the Republican Party winning or anything like that. This is
about folks in my generation who are already cynical about
a political process being um uninfluenced by them that their
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vote doesn't matter, basically being able to being able to
see that it actually does that when you actually fight
with conviction, and that we actually show some courage about
these fights. And and we're doing this not because it's easy,
but because it is hard, right And you know, and
and last question here, it's gonna be so important that
you that you have some allies in the Senate for
this to go through. We've heard some things from Tommy
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Tubberville which have been supportive. Have you had any conversations
with Senators left work per Do about what they may
do come time for this to come up for a vote. Yeah,
obviously we're reaching out to both of them. Uh, and
and those conversations are are ongoing. Uh. They are both
very much open. In fact, I think UH Senator Perdue
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is is ready to go. The problem he has technically
is he will not be a Senator on the on
the sixth. The term expires on the third and uh,
and then the election is on the fifth, and so
he may or may not be certified come the the
six Lei Leffler, on the other hand, is feeling the
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unexpired term of Johnny Isaacson, which that term does not
end for another two years. So this election for her
is not uh to take away the Senate term, is
just to say that Georgia is saying, yeah, we want
you to finish his term. So she, in either case
will still be the Senator on the sixth. So that's
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kind of a uh an interesting little twist going on
from that perspective. But there are other senators as well
that we are all in communication with, in contact with,
and I have no question that that, well, we'll have
the senators who will stand with us as we move
forward with these objections. Desfinitely, definitely, Well the Carrson hides,
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thank you so much for everything you're doing. On behalf
of the country. Um on behalf of all republic and
doing everything that you are to ensure that the American
people again have their confidence restored, you know, in our
in our country's ability to elect our leaders and to
stop this deal because as you said, if we allow
this type of fraud to happen this election, it will
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happen again and again and again, and we'll just never stop. Um.
Whenever you're ready for higher office, let us know we'll
be happy to support you on that front for sure. Well,
thank you, see Jane, thanks for all you're doing. Listen,
We're in this together. This is our country. Uh, this
is our turf, and we've got a stand for liberty
and fight for it and pass it along to your
generation and the generations you have to come. So to you,
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your listeners, your viewers, I just say, hats off to
everyone on their heroes and let's get out there and
let's fight for liberty and let's pass it on to
the next generation type playing. Well, thank you so much.
Congressman heis, thank you, and welcome back, guys. And that
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was Congressman Jody Hays. Uh, you heard from him. The
plan that lies ahead in the coming day is a huge,
huge event happening in Washington January six. Be there. If
you don't have plans to be there, make some plans
to be there. The President has encouraged all of his
supporters to make the trip, and it's for good reason.
(34:12):
You know. I hate to borrow anything from the Washington Post,
but I've got to say it's a pretty catchy and
good line. They used to say that democracy dies in darkness, right,
and there are actually some truth to that statement. You know.
The politicians today, I think they need to be reminded
about what the American people want from them, and what
the American people want from them more than anything right now,
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is not for them to pander, for them to be weak,
them to actually sow some conviction and maybe, just maybe
if the voters who actually elected them sent them there,
you know, because the thing about Washington is that these
people get elected to Washington and they forget the people
that actually put them in the seat that they hold.
They forget the people who gave them the title that
makes them a senator, that makes them a congressman. Because somehow,
(34:57):
some way, there's something about Washington, something about Washington that
makes people forget why they are where they are, but
it's hard to forget when the five million people who
are the reason of your being, the reason of your importance,
the reason of your significance, or right outside the capital
as you vote to determine whether or not you will
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accept voter fraud in this country or rejected, whether or
not you will stand with the president or abandon him.
It is hard to abandon ship. Then it's hard to
disobey and be disloyal to the base that's put you
where you were then. And maybe that's the pressure that
this Congress needs. It's certainly the pressure that Mr McConnell
shows that he needs, because he seems to have forgotten
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who he serves in, which party he's within, because sometimes
I just don't know, but I guess this is even
about party right at this point. Actually tweeted earlier this week,
I said, both parties have actually fundamentally failed American people,
and I think every single day that becomes more and
more clear. The reality of that is starker than ever before.
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Both parties have long, for far too long, misled the
American people into believing that they actually care about us.
But what we've seen is weakness from the Republicans We've seen,
downright just terrible attempts from the left to remake America
into some socialist dystopia. And I've got to say right now,
i gotta say I'm feeling a little bit politically homeless,
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and I'm still conservative, as conservative as ever. Maybe that's
why I'm feeling political homeless, because it seems as if
the Republican Party has forgotten as roots, It's forgotten how
to fight. But I believe that it is still worth saving.
I believe that with people like Jody Heights and others,
there is still there is still light at the end
of the tunnel. There is still hope to be had,
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and it is time for us to take our country
back and to take our party back with it. We
can do it, and I believe that that next step,
that next frontier, It starts in Washington, d C. On
January six. It starts again with bold visionary leaders like
Jody Heis and the people that are going to join
him in the House, Folks like Cotgressman Barry Moore, Congressman
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Moe Brooks out of Alabama. Those folks, It starts with them.
The marathon continues, the fight goes on. America. We are
not giving up on you. We are going to take
you back. Thank you so much, guys, I'll see you
next week. Hey guys, c J. Pierson here. Join us
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