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November 2, 2022 37 mins

Who was Katinka in other lives? Who was Claire in other lives? And where the heck do aliens fit into the cycle of reincarnation? Unsurprisingly, Katinka has all the answers in her juiciest episode yet. Guest Jaya Astrodar, anti-CEO CEO, chats with Katinka about spiritual entrepreneurship and her favorite companies from her past lives. Lastly, Katinka tries to read the birth chart (*tries*) of a listener curious about past life regression and then someone leaves the studio… in HANDCUFFS.

In the spirit of narcissism, all characters in this episode are played by Desi Domo.

About Desi:

Desi is a comedian, actor, and writer in Brooklyn, NY. Credits include: UCB Theatre Maude Night, UCB Theatre Characters Welcome, Blank! The Musical, Netflix’s Inventing Anna, and The Conjuring. See more of her characters and impressions at desidomo.com and Instagram.com/desidomo. Desi also reads tarot professionally (better than Katinka). Book a reading with her at starchaeologytarot.com.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Collective. Welcome to this sacred space, to this peaceful plane
of existence m HM, this portal through richly access divine wisdom.

(00:28):
M this portal to your truest, highest self, the sanctuary
where you can't be distracted by the superficial distractions of

(00:53):
every day life. This gataway to complete enlightenment, this digital

(01:18):
shrine that we call the me in mysticism. Please enjoy
the sound bath for you. Oh h would h hi?

(03:57):
I'd like to place a dog order three cars please
with extra quak. Good think no last name like sting. Yes,
I'm on the file delivery place forty minutes. Could it

(04:17):
be fifteen an emergency? No, okay, that's fine, thank you, goodbye.
It's the sound path over or Clara, you just interrupted
the sound bad. That was still part of it. You
ordering tacos was part of it. Yes, there is nothing

(04:38):
more calming than listening to myself doing stuff for myself.
I'm sorry. That was just an unconventional sound I guess
for a sound path. So what can I say? I
am always innovating. Clara eating cereal out of the Tibetan
singing bowl instead of playing it was definitely an interesting choice.
What Clara no, you can't play a bowl. I think

(05:02):
you can. It's called the Tibetan singing ball. No, Clara
and your American culture. There is no greater influence than
American Idol, the TV show. But everything isn't about singing, Clara,
I've never watched American I don't listening clothes. This called
a Tibetan sinking bowl after an ancient Tibetan proverb about

(05:23):
a monk ready to break his fast. He fasted for
so long that by the end he was so overwhelmed
by his own hunger that he becomes lived to it.
When it was time to break his fast, he greatly
filled his bowl with all the cooked seeds that were
available to him, leaving none for anyone else man or beast.

(05:49):
The ball was piled high with so many piping hot seeds.
It was so full that it was heavy in his
week week arm, and he had to set it down
in the sand. But once he did, oh, it sunk
straight down. It was so heavy, and the sand swallowed

(06:11):
it whole, And so the monk did not get to
break his fast at all. Instead, he was forced to
fast even longer because of his uncontrollable grade. That is,
why it is called the bet and sinking bawl. Don't
be too greedy or your dinner will sink straight until

(06:34):
the earth. Then you are welcome, no questions. Welcome to
miss this is cutting cuttinga is miss this isn't so
Welcome to me, my beautiful Central Collective. Today, on the

(07:01):
me in miss Decision, we will be discussing the complex
and often confusing topic of past lives and reincarnation. Thank
goodness mercury is out of retrograde finally, because that would
make this discussion only more confusing. Oh that's great that
mercury is direct. Now, so what does mercury and retrograde

(07:23):
usually mean. It means a bad time to have important conversations,
design contracts scheduled right on me things, make big decisions.
Mercury retrograde disrupts communication, technology, travel, logic, and information. It's
a horrible time of huge misunderstanding. So when mercury goes direct,

(07:45):
all those areas are great. Yes, So maybe we can
circle back to the topic of where exactly in the
world you're from. It seems whenever I ask you that question,
mercury goes into retrograde, and then you say you can't
answer true, mercury Josh went into retroc right again, Clara,
everything is suddenly so confusing again. I don't really feel

(08:08):
the difference. You're just not sensitive to the energies. Clare.
Oh it's a mess right now. Oh what are we
doing here? What is this? It's a microphone. We're doing
a podcast episode about past lives and reincarnation. Maybe we
can just start talking about that. I don't know if
we even can now, Clara, Like, I was a famous

(08:31):
person in a past life, but I can't talk about
it because you're going to accuse me of being a dictator.
Why would I do that because you're going to misunderstand
because of mercury retrograde. It sounds like you're saying you
were a dictator in a past life. Then I can't
say I was, and I can't say I wasn't. Clara,
some things just aren't black and white. You're not going

(08:53):
to get it. Well, that's too bad, because didn't you
tell me once in the past life you were also
Adam from the Bible, the first man and ever created.
I would have loved to hear more about that, but
I guess we can't talk about it now. Huh m. Yeah. Yeah,
it's really sucks that I that I can't talk about

(09:18):
about that now. Oh whoa wait, mercury just went direct again. Okay,
sorry there. I was Adam from Adam and Eve. And
I know this because I still feel like I'm Adam,
like that feeling that there's nobody else on the whole
planet except me, so I can do whatever I want,
eat all the fruit because he's offered me be naked everywhere,
which is the number one reason I get arrested. And

(09:38):
I have donated four of my ribs to various women
on the brink of death who needed rib transplants, so
like I am the reason those women are alive. It's like,
how could I not be Adam from Adam and Eve.
All these hobbies come so naturally to mclar it does
seem like you have a lot in common. I kind
of feel that way whenever I'm near water, like a

(10:01):
sense of familiarity that can't really be explained by my
life experience. In this life, like I feel very at
home on boats. It makes me wonder if I was
once an explorer or even a pirate. No, that's wrong,
you're misunderstanding your feelings right now. Probably because mercury actually
just went back in the retro gray like right now,

(10:23):
I just noticed. So, yeah, what I'm seeing for you
is you are a fishing net. A fishing net. Yeah, like,
I'm just seeing you at a net, Like, do you
sometimes feel like you want to hold one hundred pounds
of fish? No? Okay, okay, See that's the mental confusion

(10:47):
from mercury retro grad talking. I think holding tons of
fish probably feels really natural to you. It doesn't feel resonant. No,
it does, it does, And mercury retrograde is just making
you feel that is not huh. Okay, but a net
isn't a living thing. How are you know? Uh, show

(11:11):
me the proof that nets down have cells. I'm not
sure how to prove that. I want to bear off it.
Randomized control trials study confirming this place. Yeah, I'm positive
no such study exists. M sure, I don't know. I mean,
I guess you're right. You know. I also feel very
connected to crafts people who work with tools, like maybe
I was a smith of some sort in the fifteen

(11:33):
hundreds or something like that. Let me pull a card
on this shore, your clara, Oh great, Yeah, I'm so
curious Okay for listeners who want to follow along, I'm
using the right or wait there spirit. Why does Clara

(11:53):
feel connected to craftsmanship? Oh shoot out of pinnacles. Yeah, yeah,
you're a big tool Clara, like a huge tool. And
also shoot, wait to shoot, you were my huge tool, Clara.

(12:15):
This guy is me. I was famous sculptor working with
my hammer and chisel. The chisel is you, clar the chisel, yes, Clare,
it looks just like you. It's a chunk of stone,
and I have used that exact phrase to describe it
to people. See, I would spend all day as a

(12:36):
sculptor hitting you with a hammer over and over again.
This explains a lot about our dynamic. We have such
a rich historic Laar spirits, show me another life where
Laura and I knew each other? Oh shoot, the two
of clubs literally the card about relationship between two people.

(13:01):
So that's you and me. Oh no, no, no, we're
not the people the floating line had with wings that
came down from the sky is me. And then you
said that little tiny house in the background. Yes, but
you said that little tiny little chimney on the house. Yeah,
does she you clar? So I'm not even my own house.

(13:23):
I'm just part of the house. Be happy, Clara, you
probably have Santa inside you. Oh that's not what I
don't like that. Santa is not real, Clara. We all
know this. So what exactly were you here? Like, what's
a winged lion head? Oh? It's alien? Yeah I was alien.

(13:45):
I still am alien. This was me when I first
came down from the sky. Do incarnate on Earth? But
you just told us about two past lives you had
as humans? Yeah, it's but before life on Earth, I
was alien. This is true for the first people ever
incarnated on Earth. Oh so like Adam and Eve. Yes,

(14:06):
Adam and Eve were just the first two, but then
a bunch of other aliens joined them. And the truth
is the Garden of Eating was actually Atlantis. That was
the first civilization on Earth ever. So yes, I was
in Atlantean. So when you were Adam, you were living
in Atlantis at the time. You guys, what was that

(14:30):
like Sakuklar? It was an advanced republic with the richest
art culture, science, and of course the most beadful casinos
casinos as in gambling. Yes, casinos, one of the most
ancient of the lights. Why do you think New Jersey

(14:51):
named their casino town Atlantis City in reverence to the
lost City of Atlantis. Isn't it called Atlantic City? Oh, Clark, Laura,
mercury is still in retro grade and really scrambling up
your brain. But look, I just googled it. It's Atlantic City. Okay,

(15:13):
Mercury retro grade is now making Google confused. I told
you it can affect technology, Laura. You did tell me
that when you're this sensitive to the energies, you don
need Internet fact checkers. You can just kind of sense
when the Internet is right or wrong. Huh. Yes, yes,
this kind of sensitivity is very normal for a star

(15:36):
seed alien like me. What does star seed mean? Star
sege are a kind of alien who have incarnated on
Earth to help the planet. Oh that's really beautiful. Yeah,
but I do have to say something about this that
nobody's going to like. Oh, is that the mercury retrograde

(15:58):
talking or is this our incense segment? Well, perfect timing,
because Mercury Josh went as director's Martin Scorsese a director.
This is definitely our incense segment. So what hot take
are you burning to share this week? Katinka? Okay, okay,
here goes. Everyone believed star seeds are light workers, here

(16:23):
to raise the vibration of the planet. The kind of
crazy thing about me is I'm a star seed here
to lower the vibration of the planet. So that sounds
like you're not helping the planet wrong, I'm helping it
by being unhelpful. I'm like, if Several Snape was a

(16:44):
star seed, kind of a big jerk that's spreading bad energy,
but all in the name of sacred love for Harry
Potter's mom. Who does Lily Potter represent in this metaphor
literally the whole world? Okay, so it kind of sounds
like tough love? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, is love so tough
that it looks like hatred? Like I'm here to make

(17:07):
the vibration so bad that you all have to raise
your vibrations just to balance me out. Okay, so you're
like the common enemy exactly, And so by association, I
do raise the vibration of the planet, but I do
it by being a total bitch. Yeah, that seems really counterintuitive.

(17:29):
Can you give an example of this. Yes, one time
I was burning stage to cleanse the space for a
group ceremony. I was leading on the stock market trading
Flora in Wall Street. Wow, I'm shocked they'd invite you
to do that. They did not know. Nobody asked me
to do this. But I don't wait until I'm asked.
I'm proactive. How was it received very very poorly? Yeah,

(17:55):
especially after I killed Jeff? We what who is Jeff?
Big wall strip guy? Real negative energy? And you see,
burning stage eliminates negative energy. So I burned a stage
and it eliminated Jeff because turns out he was one
percent negative energy. And that was just a fraction of

(18:17):
what I shook up over there at the New York
Stock Exchange, twenty Broad Street, New York City, zip code
zeros or five on September eight. Oh, okay, okay, I
think we should move on. We are literally recording this, Yeah,
I hope so recording us. What a podcast is? Glar,

(18:38):
you taught me that. Yeah, but that's why I don't
think you should talk about maybe killing someone on the air. No.
I definitely killed them. I take full credit. September twenty eight, eight,
three thirty pm. Jeff was perfectly ialthy with no comor baities.
I have no other alibum. My point is it looked
like I'm lowering the vibration here with stuff like murder,

(19:01):
but like nobody misses Jeff, you know what I mean.
Let's move on. Um. Who is sponsoring this episode, Katinka?
A very important charitable organization called Let Catch Talk. Clark,
Catch are whip smart? Right? Yeah? Whatever You're noticed. They
don't seem to talk, right, Clark right? Please not interrupt Clark.

(19:25):
That was rhetorical. Sorry, Catch don't talk? How is this
even possible to be the smartest animal in the world
and not talk, To be worshiped in ancient Egypt and
not talk? Ever, something just doesn't add up. Hi, I'm Katinka.

(19:46):
I'm anti violence, but even I have to drop a
bomb right now, a truth bomb. Cash don't talk. And
it's not by choice. We are not allowing them to
talk because we have refused to teach for millennia. Enough
is enough. Stop silencing cats, and let's start getting them

(20:07):
the education they need to start doing the easiest thing talking.
They're smarter than this, they're better than this, They're better
than us, and we all know it. They could take
over the world someday. Maybe let's at least give them
the chance to try. If you're interesting in learning more,

(20:30):
please check out the work that let Cash Talk is doing.
There are ninety four chapters nationwide across three states, New Mexico, Florida,
and Vermont, where a lot of old ladies with cash retire.
Find your local chapter today or store your own. We
have to get the message out for as long as

(20:50):
CATCH continue to not speak, we have to be their
voice and speak for them. Thank you. They seem like
a superactive organization in those three states. So active, Clara,
I want to be surprised if Catch in Florida are
starting to say basic phrases now like I'm watching you,
or keep your friends closed by your enemies closure, you know,

(21:14):
stuff Catch would say, definitely useful phrases for cats. I
think that today we have a very special guest all
the way from Joshua Tree. You see the burning Man.
That's not a person, it's an event. Uh it's called
burning Man, not the burning event. Okay, well it's still

(21:36):
not burning Man. Today we have a world renowned spiritual
entrepreneur disrupting entrepreneurship. And here she is, Jaya astro Dare. Yeah,
thank you so much for having me. But my pronoun
is actually it because I do identify as a corporation dry.
I'm so sorry. Thank you for the correction. It is

(21:56):
such a pleasure to have you it. Tell me what
does it mean to be disrupting entrepreneurship? Mm hm. As
a SoCal entrepreneur capitalist who abstains from capitalism in theory,
I believe that leadership is inappropriate and I am a

(22:19):
leader in that belief. Whoa whoa wha was so disruptive.
But as a CEO, are you not a leader? Well?
As a CEO, I do lead, but I don't identify
as a leader per se. So if others call me
a leader, that is an act of violence. Yes, yes, yes,

(22:43):
people do this do me all the time when I
tell them I identify as someone who plays harp, but
then they get so mad when I can't play harp.
Now you are c of how many business? Thirty three? Incredible?
What are some of your companies? M Most people know
me as the founder CEO of Alternative shoe concept HOOFS,

(23:06):
founder CEO of Lucid Dreaming Fitness Movement Peloton, and self
declared brand ambassador of just the general concept of brands. Yes,
those are the big ones. What are some of your
newer startups that you're most excited about. I did just

(23:26):
open a boutique bell shop in West Hollywood called Bulling
My Bell, which provides handcrafted, bespoke bells for professionals and
ordinary people alike and brings bell education to the masses.
It is so important to make bells accessible to everybody. Yeah, exactly, exactly.

(23:52):
I've also just launched Juniper, the first meal sharing apps
serving people in the Greater l A area who need
help finishing a meal. Our main demographic is people who
ate four bites and then got super full, they swear.
I heard that it's a growing problem in l A. Yeah,

(24:13):
we really need to spread awareness, and I do think
Juniper could be a robust solution. Any other recent launches,
My most recent launch was a new brand called Storio
that tells the stories of how other brands created their
brand stories. Because the story of writing your story is also,

(24:36):
by definition, a story. I always say anything can be
a story. If you just started with warunch upon a time, Yeah,
framing is everything. I called it Storio because it's like
a stereo for brand stories, like a podcast, except it's
disrupting podcasts by telling stories that nobody you wants to

(25:01):
hear or asked to hear. I definitely don't want to
hear storage like that. So, yeah, you're near bad. Thank you, Ryan.
Now your upcoming project was particularly or exciting to USh
considering the topic of the Dash episode Patch Lives and
Recordnation that was about it. Yeah, yeah, So we have

(25:26):
social media platforms to help us keep in touch with
our social networks in this life, but what about keeping
in touch with our social networks not in this life.
It's great to reconnect with classmates from high school, or
that colleague from your first job, or your second grade teacher,

(25:50):
but what about reconnecting with the man who fought by
your side in the War of eighteen twelve, or the
traveling doctor who visited to train your family's bill every
few months, or that one Viking who spared your mother
when your coastal town was rated and pillaged. Facebook can't
really help us there, but tracebook can. So my team

(26:16):
and I are creating trace Book to help people trace
their steps from before their first steps. Wow, I need
this so much. Kind of like you were saying, I
don't identify as a dictator in a past life. What
I have been trying to reconnect with a few million

(26:37):
people from what I did, some kind of dictatory things
in their country because I really want to smooth things
over with them. Yeah yeah, yeah, trace book would be
great for that. That's exactly the pain point that we're
trying to solve and what inspired it to great is
what is your personal story with reincarnation? Well, my history

(26:58):
of being a CEO, it's back long before I was
in this body. I have thirty three companies as Jaya Astrodar,
but through past life regression therapy, I've actually uncovered a
total of over six hundred companies of which I've been CEO.
So it seems the earthly experience that my soul is

(27:21):
choosing over and over again is the corporate CEO experience
fashionating What are some of those CEO experiences from bash
lives that do you remember? I actually spearheaded the Faleo
food movement in the Paleolithic era, And by spearheaded, I

(27:43):
mean I killed the original CEO with a spear and
took over his startup and called it mine. That's just
how he did business. Then sure, you really created the
caveman diet in the caveman times. Yeah. Yeah. I was
also a pioneer in the rope industry. It was cutting

(28:04):
edge at that time too tie objects together. Everyone was
doing it. It was really such a craze. WHOA, I
still use rope every day. My house is full of ropes.
I usually to tie all my hate together. Yeah, that's
a great use for rope. TRYA. How can our listeners
find you? Yeah, if you'd like to book me to

(28:27):
speak at you, you can reach me at any quiet
place under a tree. Because I am also disrupting silence
in nature or disrupted the ruined through Jaya. Thank you
so much for joining us today. I can't wait to
join Trace Book once it goes live. Yeah, thank you
so much for having me by Jaya Blessings. Isn't just

(28:54):
such a boss Clark? She literally is a boss. Sounds
like that really is the main thing that she is.
Sho it looks like it's a listener Q and a o'clock.
Who are we hearing from this week? This week's question
comes from Penelope Tabernaki in Alaska. Penelope rights, Dear Katinka,
I seem to have many phobias that cannot be rationally

(29:15):
explained by my life experiences. In my search to deepen
my understanding of myself, I'm wondering where these phobias could
possibly come from. Could you shed some light? My birthday
is December at seven thirty a m. In Chicago, Wisconsin. Penelope,
Christmas Baby. Okay, Penelope, let me pull up your chart

(29:38):
here so I can interpret your prolacements. Mm hmm ah okay,
So I'm seeing your son, Egene Capricorn in the twelve house.
You have a grounded, realistic approach to the life. You
keep your eyes on the prize and you know how

(29:59):
to uckled down and win it. You may avoid the spotlight,
but I was born for it. Wait, what why is
that in here? Look at this conjunction between your son
and Mercury is literally telling me right now, I was
born for the spotlight. Okay, your chart is being so

(30:22):
weird right now? Random anyway, moving on, mm hmm. So
even though you are introspective, you shine when you serve others,
and I shine when I'm doing literally anything. What why
is your birth chart making this a competition between you

(30:43):
and made? This is literally just what your chart says.
I swear I'm not doing this penalty. Oh God, I'm
so sorry. That's let's just try to continue here. Okay,
So I see you also have a strong need for recognition.

(31:06):
You're attracted to earthly status symbols, and I'm adopted. I'm adopted.
Shut your plan to say that about me. Actually from
here on out, your birth shart like Barley mentions you. Yeah,

(31:31):
it's like all about me. One second penalty. Sorry, just
give me like two minutes. I'm just reading something. Wait
what they say I'm not an extrovert. I'm a social introvert. No,

(31:58):
the film Patting to Do is actually all about me.
I don't remember any of that. Oh my god, shoot,
oh my god. I'm somehow from Russia, Brazil and Sweden
all at once. Clara, there's there's your answer. That answer

(32:19):
just raises so many more questions for me. Okay, that
is it, penal Py, Your birchard is being completely inappropriate.
Right now, let's turn to the oracle cards, right maybe
they can offer some insights for you, pennyp For those
who want to follow along, I'm using the work Your
Light Deck by Rebecca Campbell. Okay, okay, then here we go,

(32:42):
calling in spirits, source energy, Peep's guides and as Sandon masters.
We're asking about Peep, not me. Spirit You hear that,
so please shed light on Peepi's phobias from past lives.
Why is she I'm scared? What? Oh? Shoot? No, the

(33:04):
mirror card. You literally want me to go look at
myself right now, Spirit in a mirror. This is not
the time for this. What I want to ask about
is bapy. It's the note card. It just says no,
that's literally all it says. Spirit is shutting this down
right now. Okay, this is very awkward, Spirit, very awkward.

(33:29):
But are you saying that you want to talk about
me acually? Yes? Card literally just says yes. Shoot. Shoot,
I don't want to talk about my spirit okay, but
what do you have to say to me about me?
To share your voice? Card? I guess I'm not expressing

(33:54):
myself about myself in other people's readings. Is the problem?
You know? I don't speak up about myself enough, and
I will start speaking up more about me. I don't
even want to. It's so crazy, our so resistant to
our own positive growth, you know, Pep, I think the

(34:15):
card is talking about me somehow actually helps you. So
I hope you're getting a lot out of your reading
about me, Peep. Okay, So I have to ask since
we're already here. What is it that I am resisting spirit? Okay,

(34:36):
okay the Warrior Woman cards. Shoot, of course I am
not fighting people enough in this card show that I
must because in a past life and it's just what
I'm seeing. I was Laura Croft tomb Writer. Fighting is
in my soul. Shoot what oh I might read just

(35:00):
think my destiny. Oh this is too much, this is
too much. I don't want to fight, I mean tie violence.
I have to fight though it's my destiny. Oh. I
really don't want to, but I have to dig into
this right now. Okay, Shoot, this session is canceled. Peepy,

(35:20):
everything's canceled now. Um We're just at the end of
the show here, Katinka. Um, so maybe you can just
lead us to your final announcements in prayer, final to
very quickly final announcement. If you're trying to heal from Ptsday,
open enrollment is beginning for my Ptsday healing program called
PTS Me Heal your Trauma by watching me. You're my

(35:42):
trauma in front of you. It's eight hours a week
for fifty five weeks and the schedule is erratic. Sessions
will be whenever I feel triggered. Here is a glowing
testemonial from Robert Reef. He says, turns out my own
ancestral trauma was also Katinkas ancestral trauma. Apparently, Katinka is
my fifth cousin. What I got out of the course
was her telling me she is my fifth cousin. Amazing review.

(36:05):
Police sign up today. Our final prayer today will be
my take on the serenity prayer that is used in
many twelve step programs. Here we go, Goddess granted the
serenity to Katinka, Ka, Katinka. Sorry, the police are here.
They're saying they hurt your murdered confession. I swear I

(36:27):
don't know how this isn't life. Yeah, but I was
life tweeting that conversation, so that's probably how. Of course
I'll come with your officers. I love questions, and trust me,
I have all the answers. I'm just gonna walk real
slowly so that I can quickly finish up this prayer.

(36:47):
Goddis grant these police officers the serenity to accept the
things they cannot change, the cards to change the things
they can, and the wisdom to know the difference about me.
Thank you not much. Side, I think a shot um
nomstay I guess, m m m m m
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